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Speaker 1: We got Sean Michaels joining us. He'll be our first

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Speaker 3: You want him sit here, younor?

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, what's what's been one

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Speaker 7: looking like a corporate head. No, look, I will say this,

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Speaker 1: The patience that you need to have because things that

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Speaker 6: The more you do it.

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Speaker 1: When you talk to great great in any particular sport,

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Speaker 7: That comes down to work ethic. And then when you

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Speaker 7: It's one thing to say it, it's another thing to

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Speaker 2: Did you always want to be a rest?

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Speaker 1: Did you have any idea when you got started many

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Speaker 2: To just be regional.

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Speaker 1: And then somehow Vince McMahon he merged all this together.

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Speaker 2: Did you want to be a wrestler? And did you

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Speaker 1: Did you have any idea it would take you to

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Speaker 7: I'm sixty, so when I started it was Southwest Championship Wrestling.

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Speaker 6: I knew at twelve years old. I saw it one time.

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Speaker 7: I got to stay up late and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: Time, and it was the most mismerizing thing I had

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Speaker 6: And I was like, oh my goodness, that's it.

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Speaker 7: It was the perfect display of athleticism but theatrics, and

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Speaker 7: But in my mind by the time I was nineteen

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Speaker 7: I just started wrestling, and that was when Vince McMahon

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Speaker 7: first began to go kind of global. The first WrestleMania

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Speaker 6: But I was wrestling while that show was going on,

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Speaker 7: He's going to kill you, he's ruining everything. Two years later,

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Speaker 2: You knew earlier all this, I knew that I wanted

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Speaker 7: But a one bedroom apartment am my own car seemed

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Speaker 1: I was a I had sat down with a Rick

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Speaker 1: You know, when you devote so much of your life

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Speaker 2: How have your body? How does your body.

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Speaker 1: Feel now at sixty that you look back up like

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Speaker 1: Would you do it again? Yep, probably would have started

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Speaker 9: Hell?

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Speaker 7: I have had my back fused, I've had my shoulder replaced,

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Speaker 7: I'm fortunate, again, especially later in my career, to have

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Speaker 1: You are a part of many, many blockbuster wrestling events.

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Speaker 1: This one we have Canelo versus Crawford. It's probably the

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Speaker 2: How do you think this thing's gonna play out?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I mean, I think that's the most.

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Speaker 6: Not a chance, not a chance.

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Speaker 7: And even look, even if they were, I'm so blessed

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Speaker 7: But it is so great because I think the businesses

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Speaker 6: For the future.

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Speaker 1: When did you know it was over? When did you know?

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Speaker 6: But I had a match again.

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Speaker 7: It was the one with Undertaker so many twenty five

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Speaker 7: And that's when we began to have the conversation, and

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I just it was something that I've had such peace with,

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Speaker 7: to tell this story and this is going to happen,

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Speaker 7: and at the end, hopefully they come on glued. And

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Speaker 7: when that happens and it all comes together, it's that

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Speaker 7: feeling once again, but it's you watching the joy in

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Speaker 7: that talent start and again when they're finally getting it.

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Speaker 7: So it's it's it's in a different aspect that I

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Speaker 7: received kind of that charge that I used to have

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Speaker 7: when I got in the ring.

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Speaker 6: Yes. Laugh.

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Speaker 1: Questioned, is there anybody that's currently resling be a wwe

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Speaker 1: been an NX NXT non stop breastling? Is there anybody

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Speaker 1: that reminds you on Michael A Shawan Michael that you see.

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Speaker 7: I'll say this from an NXT standpoint, we have an

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Speaker 7: you know, an unbelievable uh roster. I think somebody who

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Speaker 7: you have to keep an eye on. He's twenty one

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Speaker 7: years old and his name is Javon Evans. He's unbelievably dynamic,

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Speaker 7: unbelievably talented, gifted. He just turned twenty one, I believe

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Speaker 7: and the future is so bright for that young man.

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Speaker 7: He's going to be somebody that's going to be very

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Speaker 7: big in the WW and obviously I think probably before

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Speaker 7: long he'll probably be a flag bear in NXT. So

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to see the trajectory of his career.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on give us a few moments of

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Speaker 1: your time, the great Sean Michaels.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Y'll thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, this is this was amazing to really sit

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Speaker 1: down and like I said, I've been a wrestling fan.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather used to take my brother and I to

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Speaker 1: wrestling matches Savannah Civic Center, We used to go to Baxley,

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Speaker 1: We used to.

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Speaker 2: Go to Badaia.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh used to take my brother and I and we

476
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Speaker 1: see all those where it was Georgia Championship Wrestling.

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Speaker 2: And it was great. It was great.

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Speaker 1: And to sit down and have a conversation, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed Rick Flair, I've interviewed John Cena uh met

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Speaker 1: a lot of wrestlers and and to sit down with

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Speaker 1: Sean Michaels, it was It's been great and I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we got an opportunity to check to catch up with it.

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Speaker 8: Stand what they do, baby, man, Listen, if I had

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Speaker 8: your hands, I cut mine off.

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Speaker 4: Man McDonald's, man, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean. We got legend that broadcast the

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Speaker 2: stay of a red joining us. Stand. How you doing

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Speaker 2: doing great?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 6: Doing great?

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Speaker 4: Nothing like the energy of fight night in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: No, there's nothing like. There's nothing like a fight Vegas was.

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Speaker 1: Vegas was built on fighting. Absolutely. Yeah, we got the

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Speaker 1: casinos and we understand that. But there's something about a buzz,

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Speaker 1: the electricity that's in the air when a big time

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Speaker 1: fight hits town in Vegas.

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Speaker 8: And then the funny thing about it is it took

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Speaker 8: a fight like this to get that magic, to get

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Speaker 8: that buzz back in Vegas. There's been many fights, but

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Speaker 8: nothing just like this that brings back that that feeling.

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Speaker 3: Of many pack y'all. Mayweather.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I was here.

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Speaker 2: We were here for eight days.

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Speaker 10: I was with ESPN, then we were here for eight

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Speaker 10: days for that fight. ESPN said we want to own

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Speaker 10: this fight. So I was parked here the whole time,

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Speaker 10: and you know, you could just feel it ramping up

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Speaker 10: as the week went on, you know, and by the

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Speaker 10: time we got to the fight.

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Speaker 2: It was it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you mentioned you and Neil Lebrett. You got

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Speaker 1: the transition. You're going to try to try to recreate

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Speaker 1: what you guys had on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. I think a red you're going Twitch.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So you're taking you're taking, you're taking your talents

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Speaker 1: to Twitch.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what was the thought process in doing that?

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Speaker 10: So our producer Jeff Anderson is really in tune with

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Speaker 10: the digital space, yes, and so he saw that Twitch

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Speaker 10: gave us a lot of functionality to do live because

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Speaker 10: initially it was it was mostly gamers on Twitch. Yes,

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Speaker 10: and so you know exactly, so they need a lot

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Speaker 10: of functional capability to go live. You got to be

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Speaker 10: able to see the gamers, you got to be able

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Speaker 10: to see the action on the screen. So we are

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Speaker 10: sort of adapting that for sports now. It's already Chaid.

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Speaker 10: You probably know the European soccer guys are already on

528
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Speaker 10: Twitch and they're doing live shows on Twitch already. There's

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Speaker 10: a bunch of radio stations that are that are streaming

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Speaker 10: their shows on Twitch. So it's you know, we think

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Speaker 10: we found something something really really good in that platform

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Speaker 10: that helps us go live, interact with fans, who are

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Speaker 10: listening to the show, watching the show. They can they

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Speaker 10: can ask questions, they can comment, and we can deal

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Speaker 10: with them in real time, and then we take the

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Speaker 10: show later, we.

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Speaker 4: Put it on YouTube and all those traditional platforms.

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna get you out of here on this

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Speaker 1: one prediction. What do you think is gonna happen? Canelo Crawford,

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Speaker 1: Crawford taking a big taking a big risk, going up

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Speaker 1: basically polled voting three weight classes.

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Speaker 2: Canello is you know, yeah, it's Canelo.

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Speaker 10: The thing is, I think it's gonna come down to

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Speaker 10: can Canelo handle Bud's ability to switch south part orthodox.

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Speaker 3: Which is why you had Boots in camp.

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Speaker 10: Exactly exactly h versus uh Budd's ability.

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Speaker 2: To take a punch. I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if sparring wise, he had anybody who's

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Speaker 10: as big as Canelo in camp who hits with the

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Speaker 10: power of Canlo, Because if you had somebody that big

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Speaker 10: who hits that home, he wouldn't be a sparring.

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Speaker 2: Partner, right exactly. Can't be wearing a belt, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 10: So, so I think in the first couple of rounds,

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see if Bud

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Speaker 10: feels like I can box, I can fight him.

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Speaker 4: I can stand in the middle.

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Speaker 2: And fight him. No, or if if he's gonna box him,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't think he can.

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Speaker 10: Get lured into trying to trade and trade with him

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Speaker 10: down some heavy hands, you know. So it's gonna is

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Speaker 10: it gonna be a slugfest or is it gonna be

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Speaker 10: a boxing match? Slug fest advantage Canelo. If it's a

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Speaker 10: boxing match, advantage Budd. So we'll see Style's dictate fights.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Always.

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you and Neil on the endeavor on Twitch.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the great success that you had the twenty

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Speaker 1: five years at ESPN.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Hey man, I'm trying

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Speaker 10: to be like you guys, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: So if you have anybody with any more hundred million

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Speaker 10: dollars contracts, you know, telling them mother you got some

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Speaker 10: people are interested? All right, we'll do see you guys.

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Speaker 10: All right, all right, thank you?

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Speaker 6: How you doing? I'm good man?

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Speaker 2: How are you we're doing?

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Speaker 6: A mate?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Now we hear this like a like you got something

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Speaker 1: big that you want to announce.

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Speaker 2: If there any hint. You know, you want to like devote,

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 5: To you want to let us see it all right now,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be the worst secret keeper on

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Speaker 5: the planet, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got some we.

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Speaker 5: Got some big news today about the future and and

590
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Speaker 5: how things are happening with WWE. But it's going to

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Speaker 5: be exciting and uh, I'm I'm I'm thrilled we get

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Speaker 5: to do it here today in the shadow of Canelo Crawford.

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Speaker 1: Is nice because, if I'm not mistaken, w w E

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Speaker 1: and UFC, now you guys are the same umbrella.

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Speaker 4: T K Yes, absolutely t K O.

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Speaker 5: It's it's WWE, UFC, PBR pro bull riding in there,

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Speaker 5: you know the few other random things. But but yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's great to be partnered with them.

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Speaker 4: It's great.

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Speaker 5: Dani's a genius, thrill to work with him, and uh

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Speaker 5: and and so forth. It's a it's a wonderful collaboration.

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Speaker 1: This secret is anything to do with WrestleMania, I mean

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Speaker 1: it could.

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Speaker 2: It possibly be anything.

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Speaker 5: You are in the ballpark park, Yeah for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, sometimes secrets are hard to keep

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Speaker 5: around here. So there might be rumors floating around.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: To get into sport of wrestling.

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Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know, obviously you know your father

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Speaker 1: in law and you got your running or you do

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Speaker 1: a great job of this right now, Triple h doing

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Speaker 1: what you do. But as a kid, did you did

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Speaker 1: you did you always want to wrestle?

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Speaker 2: Did you do other things? Or how did you? How

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Speaker 2: did you get into the sport of wrestling?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's a funny thing, is as as you

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Speaker 5: grow up, especially then, and it's one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: why I did what I did within the company of

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Speaker 5: creating what we call NXT that's our developmental system, because

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Speaker 5: there was there was never a pathway to get into

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Speaker 5: pro wrestling if you want to be a WWE superstars,

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Speaker 5: like trying to be a trapeze artist, like right, right,

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Speaker 5: where do you start?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: And I grew up a huge fan really in the

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Speaker 5: back of my mind, you know, man that if I

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Speaker 5: could do one if you would say to me as

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Speaker 5: a kid, what's the one thing you'd want to do

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Speaker 5: be a WWE superstar? I did all the other sports,

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Speaker 5: started bodybuilding and lifting weights when I was fourteen, with

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Speaker 5: the mindset of if I want to be a w

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Speaker 5: W st you got to go to the shows. See,

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Speaker 5: these guys are huge. I gotta get I gotta get bigger.

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Speaker 5: I gotta you know, I gotta get there. So, you know,

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Speaker 5: you had to find a way. I was lucky in that.

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Speaker 5: I somebody pointed me in the right direction. I had

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Speaker 5: met a world strongest man tet oar Cd at the time,

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Speaker 5: and he got first guy to bench prest seven hundred

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Speaker 5: pounds and and and had a brief stint in the

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Speaker 5: wrestling business. Yeah, partlay that into business for himself. Very

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Speaker 5: smart guy.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I had met him and asked him how do I

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Speaker 5: get in the business, and he would always try to

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Speaker 5: discourage me from it, and and then eventually when I

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Speaker 5: bugged him enough, he gave me a number. I went

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Speaker 5: trained with Killer Kwalski, and Yeah, fortunately for me, it

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Speaker 5: took off. But now we've changed that game. We've tried

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Speaker 5: to make the pathway. So we recruit heavily in colleges.

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Speaker 5: We have an NIL program. We call it Next in Line.

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Speaker 5: It's we we have NIL kids across the country that

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Speaker 5: have an interest in WWE that that are part of

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Speaker 5: promoting us to all these events that they go to.

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Speaker 5: And then we work with all those kids that have

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Speaker 5: an interest in this, or maybe didn't know they had

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Speaker 5: an interest, but you know, you know better than anybody.

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Speaker 5: Right Like the NFL, it's it's such a small percentage

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Speaker 5: of folks that get in there. You can be the

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Speaker 5: best of the best and all of that, but then

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Speaker 5: there's this moment in time where you have a whatever

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Speaker 5: the slightest you know, difference, and you're not going to

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Speaker 5: make it. And this is a career choice for them

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00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: where you know, they come to Orlando, Florida, they see

665
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: our facilities, they think, wow, this is like being in

666
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: a D one college. I have that level of professionalism.

667
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 5: Let me give this a shot, and it's performance, so

668
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: it's athletic performance, and if they can make it work

669
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: for them, then then the sky's the limit, just like

670
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: any other any other sport.

671
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: You got the base. The training center is in Orlando,

672
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: right is in Orlando.

673
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: We're in the process of building a new one now

674
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: in Orlando. It'll be even bigger and better.

675
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 5: Our main offices are in Connecticut in LA but Orlando's

676
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: the developmental.

677
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 8: When I think about all you've accomplished, your thought growing

678
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 8: up as a kid, always wanting to, always wanting to wrestle.

679
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 8: Everything that you poured into the sport, it's pouring back

680
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 8: into you.

681
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: Now.

682
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 8: Are you able to have a life outside of wrastling

683
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 8: at all where you can have other hobbies, other passions

684
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 8: that you actually enjoy.

685
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, though, you know, I'm gonna get it. Go on,

686
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: a Lemons say, probably, like both of you, I enjoy fitness.

687
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 5: I enjoy being in the gym. That's that's my that's

688
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 5: my solitude, that's my church, that's my place I go

689
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: to ground and and have that. That foundation for me

690
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 5: is training and all of that. But then other than that,

691
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: it's my wife and my kids, right, you know, my family.

692
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: You know, it's not like my wife wasn't in the

693
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 5: business as well, my family, all of that so sometimes

694
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: hard to get away from. But I say this to

695
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: people all the time, and I think you two will

696
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: get this. People talk about work life balance.

697
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: It's bullshit. There is no such thing you.

698
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: Want to be great or something.

699
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: There no and and all you can really do is

700
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: your best at whatever it is you're doing in that moment.

701
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: So when I'm at work, I try to be at work.

702
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 5: When I'm with my kids, I try to put work

703
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: aside and dedicate that time to my kids or my

704
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 5: wife or whatever that's, whatever that is that we're doing,

705
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 5: and not sort of be oh, yeah, I'm at my kids,

706
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: my kids game or or with them, but I'm on

707
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: my phone the whole time trying to do business.

708
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 11: Right.

709
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 5: I tell people I'm gonna be off for an hour

710
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: or two. I'll pick back up in a little bit.

711
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: Now I'm with them, And you know, that's it's hard.

712
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: It's easy to say that, harder to do it. But

713
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 5: that's that's the.

714
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: Goal for me.

715
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm I'm thrilled at this point in

716
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: my life.

717
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: I still get to do what I love.

718
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people when they when when

719
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 5: they finish football, they finished basketball, they finished wrestling, whatever

720
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 5: it is, it all just stops, right and and that's

721
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: hard to handle.

722
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: For me.

723
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: It's never stopped when I couldn't do this anymore. I

724
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: was already plugged in, maybe deeper than I even wanted

725
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: to be, and and everything else. So you know, for me,

726
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 5: I've been fortunate that that passion that I have for

727
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: it still continues to this day. And I say this

728
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: a lot. For me, it's almost like, now as I

729
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: get to help these other kids grow and find success

730
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: in this business. It's almost like watching your kids do it.

731
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: You know, your own career is fabulous, your own achievements

732
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: are incredible.

733
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: When your kids do it, when your kids reach.

734
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: Their goal, when they have that moment, you know, it's

735
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 5: a different level of pride. And I think that's where

736
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 5: I'm at with it now, is watching these kids succeed

737
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: and do what they do, to me is almost more

738
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 5: than my career was.

739
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: H How hard is it?

740
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Because and you had Sean Michaels before you came home,

741
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: and he was so gifted. You were so gifted at

742
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: what you did and it came natural to you. And

743
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: when you try to you try to tell someone else

744
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: how to do it, and they said, well how he

745
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: was like, why can't you pick that up? Because it

746
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: was so easy to you? How is it that you

747
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Because I think the greater the athlete is probably the

748
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: heart of of for him to do it because a

749
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: lot of things would God give it and he doesn't

750
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: understand he or he doesn't understand how they did it.

751
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: He just did it. It just came.

752
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 5: I find that all the time. Look, I like to

753
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: think for myself, you know, I think to some degree,

754
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: I was gifted for it, but to some degree I wasn't.

755
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 5: Sean is one of the most incredible athletes out every

756
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 5: sea right and can do stuff. And you know, one

757
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 5: of my favorite opponents. I've said it all the time.

758
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: I think he's the greatest in ring performer of all time.

759
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: His athletic ability second to none. I didn't have that.

760
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: I had to learn the other aspect. And you know,

761
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: to me, I don't know this is reference to my childhood,

762
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 5: but to me, I was much more Larry Bird than

763
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 5: I was, right anybody else, Yeah, because he wasn't the

764
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 5: most athletic guy, couldn't jump the highest, couldn't run the fastest,

765
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: but his knowledge is all that stuff, right, So I

766
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 5: had to put in the work on the other side.

767
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 5: But I have seen that a million times over where

768
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 5: you see guys that are incredible at what we do

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: and then they try to tell to somebody else and

770
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, what are you talking about? That's totally wrong,

771
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 5: Like you don't even know why what you do work.

772
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: You know, and it's tough for people to get, but

773
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 5: it's I'm a big collaborator for stuff. So if I'm

774
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 5: trying to explain things to somebody or trying to get

775
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 5: them to a certain place is not working. Let somebody

776
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: else take a stab at it. Yeah, it just takes

777
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 5: that one sometimes buzzword or the right perspective for somebody

778
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: to go like, oh he told me, I didn't get

779
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 5: it at all what you just said, and get that,

780
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 5: you know, and that's a different it's a different take,

781
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: and sometimes they just got to figure it out for himselves.

782
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

783
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 7: No.

784
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: But when growing up and I know usfually you came

785
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: to the sport. So how long have you been in

786
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: this thing?

787
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: Thirty years?

788
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 6: Oh?

789
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I started.

790
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: Ninety three.

791
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so by that time Vance had already kind

792
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: of like taken it from.

793
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Ww F to WWE.

794
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: But we were talking to Sean and I grew up

795
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: in the South and so it was Georgia Championship rest

796
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: with Gordon so yes, and wrestling was regional.

797
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 2: You had to meet Atlantic, you had to be west.

798
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: You had the Southwest and so now what what Vince

799
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: was able to do was bring all of that under

800
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: one umbrella. And so now you didn't have you know,

801
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: had the nw A also, So I remember.

802
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 6: A w A. Yeah it was and it was all

803
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 6: over the place.

804
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I used to.

805
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: My grandfather used to take my brother and I to

806
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: all these little you know, to see Bobo Bazail and

807
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Crush of Black Will and Andre Jackson, saw Dusty Rose,

808
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: all these guys coming up, and I remember like, man, man,

809
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to be a wrestler. But then football kind

810
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: of kind of like captivated me. Was it like that

811
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: for you when you saw it for the first time?

812
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: Did you understand, like, Man, yeah, I kind of. I

813
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: kind of liked that. I kind of dig that I

814
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: think I could do that.

815
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 6: I did. I did.

816
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 5: I was a kid and and and very young, but man,

817
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 5: it was for me and I was fortunate I grew

818
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: up and then I was born and raised in New Hampshire, right,

819
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: so Boston sports for me, I grew up in the

820
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: Larry Bird era Parish and McHale and all that.

821
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 6: I also grew up in the Carl Yastremsky and.

822
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: The Red Sox era.

823
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: Right Like everybody, that Boston sports scene was incredible.

824
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 6: But for me, I was aware of all that and

825
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 6: I'd go.

826
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: To some of that, but the thing that resonated for

827
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: me was wrestling, And like you, I was fortunate when

828
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 5: cable came in where I lived. I got the WWE,

829
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: but I got the NWA, I got Georgia Championship, I got.

830
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 6: Florida, I got text Yes, I got the AWA. Yeah.

831
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: So I had this this well rounded sort of view

832
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 5: of what the business was because they were all slightly different.

833
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 5: Vince was a genius that saw cable coming and the

834
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: regional going away at national becoming the thing and eventually

835
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 5: global to some degree. For the talent, that time frame

836
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: was almost better because the guys that you saw that

837
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: were successful at the highest of levels, like in WWE

838
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: had been places for years honing their craft, and right,

839
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 5: you just read about them in magazines, but maybe you

840
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 5: hadn't seen them.

841
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, rest of the me I don't know if they

842
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: still have to Dude, they still have years.

843
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: Than they do.

844
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 5: But you used to reads magazines and now you know

845
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: what I'm saying to click to click and and and

846
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: you're there and you get all the information. But yeah,

847
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: the time was different and that ability to go all

848
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 5: those different places. Now we get these kids they come

849
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 5: in from college in a couple of years, if they

850
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 5: start doing this and they start training, hopefully within a

851
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 5: couple of years, they're on NXT. They've got national exposure

852
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 5: on the CW that you know, people could have only

853
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 5: dreamed of years ago.

854
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: And it's changed.

855
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 5: And you know what's an interesting thing is, like you

856
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: talk about football, if you go slightly back, just before

857
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 5: my generation of it, football wasn't the money making no

858
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: thing that it is now. So you had guys like

859
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: Wahoo McDaniel, Big Cat, Urny lad who were wrestling in

860
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: the off season.

861
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Now who played for the Broncos, Ernie La played for

862
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City.

863
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 5: Chief absolutely, and for a lot of them, they would

864
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: play if they you know, unless they were top guys.

865
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 5: Like the money was better year round in wrestling than

866
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: it was for the short season of football, right, and

867
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: a lot of them gravitated out of football and into

868
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 5: wrestling full time.

869
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Some of them had to get part time jobs because

870
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: you're right, there was not I mean, we look at

871
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: it now, you see guys making fifty and sixty million dollars.

872
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: Even it wasn't like that.

873
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 5: No, there are very few guys making six figures, yes, right,

874
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 5: like very few.

875
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Very few.

876
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: Basically basically only your quarterbacks when I got into league,

877
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: unite your quarterbacks and then you had your top defensive

878
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: line of like.

879
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: Reggie White, and blue Smith.

880
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: But for the most part, there were not a whole

881
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: lot of guys making five hundred thousand dollars or a

882
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: million dollars. That was just unheard us money back then,

883
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: unless you were the top, top, top guys. What do

884
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: you think is the idea? So because you have to

885
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: be obviously you have to be able to be able

886
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: to entertain which you have to be athletic, you have

887
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: to be able to scale, be skilled.

888
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: And people don't realize that. Okay, yes, entertainment, but you

889
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: hit the.

890
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: Mat, the table, yeah, you run into the turn vocals.

891
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 5: Accumulation of that it adds up absolutely.

892
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: You know, our business like getting in.

893
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 5: The car crash every day it is, you know, and

894
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: and it's day after day and there's no off season

895
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 5: and and.

896
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: So it's a it's a tough, very physical business.

897
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, but for the people think, you know,

898
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: they think h people think because they only see the

899
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: Summer Slam and they only see the big events, that

900
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: that's all.

901
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: There is all they do know. That thing is like

902
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: and uh.

903
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Sean Michael saying he traveled in the beginning two hundred

904
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: and eighty six days.

905
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we all did.

906
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: Then now it's different now, right, the it's much more

907
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: a weekly you know, you're you're wrestling once twice a week.

908
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 5: It's a it's a lot better family life for people.

909
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: Right.

910
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 5: We have brought that into a place when you're trying

911
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: to build a business, you got to do it different.

912
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 6: You've got it and.

913
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: Now it's in a different place and the money is

914
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 5: different and everybody's living different, but the physicality is still there.

915
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 5: It's not there. And you know, I say this to everybody.

916
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: The casualty rates on hundred percent. No one walks away

917
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 5: unscathed in our business. Is you're going to get injured.

918
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: It's going to have just a meta wa yeah, and

919
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 5: you've got to deal with that. And then if you're

920
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 5: if you're at the right mindset and you're driven, you

921
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 5: come back better and you come back harder. But the

922
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: thing in our business it's interesting is it's not always

923
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: the most athletic and and you said it a little

924
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: bit ago that sometimes the most athletic guys it comes

925
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: easy to them, and the when when shit gets hard,

926
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 5: they they don't push as hard. In our business, sometimes

927
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: I can make you a list of the guys, you know,

928
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 5: Houk Hogan love them the death, biggest star of all time.

929
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 5: Not the most athletic guy on the planet, you know,

930
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 5: John Cena, not the most.

931
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 6: Athletic guy in the plan. You know a lot of

932
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 6: those guys.

933
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 5: The list of people who are incredibly they have incredible charisma,

934
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 5: incredible crowd presence, incredible ability to control the crowd and

935
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: tell a story. Yes, that's more important charisma king in

936
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: our business. Absolutely so that the athleticism, it doesn't matter

937
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 5: how fast you can run, don't doesn't matter how much

938
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 5: you can bench press, matters if you look like you can, right,

939
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: And so it's a different it's a different mindset.

940
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: Right, That's what made Rick special, rikk talk, Rikk talk,

941
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: dusty road guy that could talk, and like limouthy Rye.

942
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 5: When when you talk about those folks in that timeframe,

943
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 5: when people can still quote their promos from that generation

944
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 5: after all these years, Like you know, half the kids

945
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 5: today that are running around doing the limousine ride, jet flying,

946
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: you know, relegating, they're doing all that stuff. I don't

947
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: even know if they've ever seen Rick Wressell, you know.

948
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: And the same you know with Hogan, people can still

949
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: repeat that his catchphrases and his moments, the rock you know,

950
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: stone Cold, all those people, but Dusty Roads. People still

951
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 5: talk about his Hard Times promo. Yeah, right, like those

952
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 5: things are iconic. That's that is what we do, right,

953
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 5: we are. I say this a lot of times when

954
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: people don't understand, Like if we're talking to network executives,

955
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out.

956
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 6: What we are.

957
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 5: Say we are less Boxing and more Rocky. Right, We're

958
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: not the sport. We're a movie about the sport, and

959
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 5: Rocky is really a love story.

960
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: Yes, right, it just.

961
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 5: Happens to have Boxing is a background and the metaphor

962
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 5: for all the things he has to overcome and do.

963
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: Our business, when you talk about that emotion, you talk

964
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: about the storytelling, you talk about all those things, that's

965
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: really where it resonates. Yes, and those are things. It's

966
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: why our business is evergreen. Very few people unless you're

967
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: an incredible, you know, student of the technical aspects of it.

968
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: Nobody goes back and watches the Super Bowl from five

969
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 5: years ago. People will go back and watch WrestleMania three to.

970
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 4: This day, you know of.

971
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: LA and yeah, forty years later they're still watching it.

972
00:45:59,680 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 6: Right.

973
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: It's the story, it's the spectacle. It's all those things.

974
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 5: That's what we're different where we're spectacle in storytelling. The

975
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 5: athleticism is a huge factor of it. I don't want

976
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: to negate it. The the in ring product, all that stuff,

977
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 5: but that ability to speak, that ability to control the crowd,

978
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 5: that innate charisma. You know that in other sports. If

979
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: Connor McGregor comes back and fights in UFC tomorrow.

980
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: He's the biggest jow they have because he can sell it.

981
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 5: And he hasn't wont to fight what ten years and

982
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: almost ten years right like, it's incredible. Mike Tyson, Mike

983
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 5: Tyson announces he's going to do something here, everybody pays

984
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: attention because his he has that charisma and that innate

985
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 5: ability to make you want to pay attention.

986
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 6: Height.

987
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: Thank you man, thank you, appreciate you, com thank you

988
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: for having me.

989
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 6: Man upon it.

990
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: He's good.

991
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: Any time you need it, you know how to get

992
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: into Appreciate it man, just the same here.

993
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 6: Thank you.

994
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll see you at the show too. Appreciate you.

995
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: I can wrestle if you need me.

996
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 10: You know.

997
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: That was he Actually he runs the uh took over

998
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: for his father laws Undertaker. Yeah, hey ship the Undertaker.

999
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm good good to see you, Undertaker.

1000
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 6: You're good.

1001
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 9: I'm good to see you. Good side here, man. How

1002
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 9: you how you being? I've been good man. Busy, but

1003
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 9: we're good.

1004
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1005
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: Busy is a good thing.

1006
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 6: Busy is a good thing.

1007
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: Man. You know that that means everybody should?

1008
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 6: That mean.

1009
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 4: I got I got more memes than I don't know

1010
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 4: what to do with.

1011
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 11: Man?

1012
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: Is that when you know you made it when you

1013
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: got memes?

1014
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you made it.

1015
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: You have officially arrived once you have memes.

1016
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: So how you been?

1017
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 4: I've been good man, Uh, really busy.

1018
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 11: A lot of things happening with and yeah, just trying

1019
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 11: to trying to lend a hand where I can.

1020
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: When you got into the sport, did you have any

1021
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: idea that the wwe would be this would grow to

1022
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: what has become.

1023
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, man.

1024
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 11: We we were just trying to We were trying to

1025
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 11: fill up arenas, make a little money, yeah, and maybe

1026
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 11: sell you know back then when we when I started,

1027
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 11: there were four pay per views, right.

1028
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: There was the Big four, and you know that was

1029
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: that was it.

1030
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 11: We were trying to sell pay per views, sell some

1031
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 11: T shirts and no clue, no clue that Netflix and

1032
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 11: was going to come along and the and the kind

1033
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 11: of money that that you know.

1034
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 4: These deals are. It's crazy.

1035
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 11: I don't you can't imagine, you know, back in nineteen ninety, yeah,

1036
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 11: what what.

1037
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five is going away and talking to Rick.

1038
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: Rick was talking about how he used to wrestle in

1039
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: high school gymnasium and he would wrestle three or four

1040
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: or five times in a single date in order to

1041
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, because there was no money. I mean, you

1042
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: got making fifty dollars, you guys making just enough money

1043
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: to put gas in the car and go to the

1044
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: next locale. And here we are, guys are making real, real,

1045
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: real money. They got family, you know, they got wie,

1046
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: they got kids, they have knife owns. Now, it's it's

1047
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: a it's a different era now for wrestlers.

1048
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, yeah. Those and we called that paying your

1049
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 11: dues right when you come up. You and it's not

1050
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 11: even like there's so many times where I would have

1051
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 11: to go and help set up the ring just to

1052
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 11: just to get on the card and maybe even have

1053
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 11: to you know, sometimes chip in for some you know,

1054
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 11: not making any money.

1055
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: But that's just how important ring time was.

1056
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 11: I mean, we didn't have a you know, you didn't

1057
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 11: have a PC or all the all the uh you know,

1058
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 11: the ways to prepare as we do now. And I

1059
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 11: was telling a story earlier about the first time that

1060
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 11: I went to I went to like an HR block,

1061
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 11: paid my like I'm one year in the business, right,

1062
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 11: And I got this bag full of receipts right that

1063
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 11: I'm giving this guy and he says, uh, and he's

1064
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 11: reading like I wrote it down wrong. He said, you

1065
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 11: drove in eight months, you drove forty five thousand miles.

1066
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 11: And I was like, yes, sir, And he says, and

1067
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 11: you and you made twelve thousand, two hundred and twenty

1068
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 11: six And a guy serious it was. He was the

1069
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 11: old timer, right, And he pulls his glasses down. He

1070
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 11: looks over his glass. He goes, son, can I give

1071
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 11: you some advice? He said, you might want to find

1072
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 11: a different line of work. But I mean, but yeah,

1073
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 11: that was that was paying your dues.

1074
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 8: And now here we are, right, So, speaking of speaking

1075
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 8: of a line of work growing up as a kid,

1076
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 8: did you actually know you wanted to wrestle?

1077
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 3: From jump over? There's something else you want to do?

1078
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: For me?

1079
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 8: I wanted to be a marine biologist. I wanted to

1080
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: be a veterinarian because I was in animals. I was

1081
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 8: in the Killer Whales and dogs of that nature. And

1082
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 8: then football came on, right, and that's that's that's what

1083
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 8: happened right now.

1084
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 11: I was a big, big fan as a kid of wrestling,

1085
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 11: But again, I thought I was gonna play football, right,

1086
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 11: and you know, that was that was always I thought

1087
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 11: that was.

1088
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 4: That was my dream, that was your way out, that

1089
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: was my way out.

1090
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 11: I ended up playing basketball, and then wrestling kind of

1091
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 11: came back around.

1092
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: You know.

1093
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 11: I was training at this gym between I think it

1094
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 11: was between my junior and senior.

1095
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: Year of college, and this guy's working out.

1096
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 11: And he's like, hey, man, you ought to you ought

1097
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 11: to go through this wrestling school with me, and man,

1098
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 11: I think, you know, I'm gonna try and play some

1099
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 11: some pro ball overseas, right, And every day I'd come in,

1100
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 11: he'd hit me up, and then kind of I started

1101
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 11: kind of catching up with the product.

1102
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: And it was a lot different even then than what

1103
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: it was when I was a kid. And I've always

1104
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: kind of been very like a pretty practical and I.

1105
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 11: Know what my abilities are my abilities aren't, and then

1106
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 11: you know, I start thinking about it, like do I

1107
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 11: want to be the twelfth man on a bench in

1108
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 11: Lithuania twenty one or twenty two years old, And and

1109
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 11: then I, you know, I'm kind of like, well, Dann,

1110
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 11: there's not a lot of big athletic guys in wrestling

1111
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 11: correct time, and that's kind of how it started. And

1112
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 11: once I started training, then it was like, Okay, yeah,

1113
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 11: this is it, this is what I want to do.

1114
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: But you mentioned it's a lot different now than it is.

1115
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: They got n x T where they got the training program.

1116
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Just H was on, Triple H was on and he's

1117
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: saying they're building an even bigger yes down in Orlando.

1118
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: That's where they send all the guys that you know,

1119
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: people want.

1120
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: To pass through and think they can make it into WWE.

1121
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: That's where they go through. You guys didn't have that.

1122
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: So these guys not have an advantage that you guys didn't.

1123
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: And they have guys that come like yourself, and they

1124
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: have Sean Michael, who who's the director of that, to

1125
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: go back there and help them guys out. Have you

1126
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: found it difficult to be able to share what you

1127
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: know with kids because those that can do those that

1128
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: can't teach you could do, but now sometimes they ask

1129
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: you to teach.

1130
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, and that's a that's a great question.

1131
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 11: But I think the biggest thing from me is that

1132
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 11: we have so many athletes now, like we recruit like

1133
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 11: we we will have people like you to colleges and

1134
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 11: yeah we go to we go to you know, uh, yeah,

1135
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 11: we'll go to the combine, We'll go to pro days

1136
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 11: and yeah.

1137
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: We got people there because we have.

1138
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: To continue feed the cecy.

1139
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 11: Right when I came up, either you had it like

1140
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 11: this is I was a fan, I want to do this.

1141
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 11: You have a you have a certain understanding of the business,

1142
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 11: right even as a fan.

1143
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 4: Well, we're getting people that have never.

1144
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: Been y'all like the army now y'all looking for a few.

1145
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 11: With me, but but but not understand we're taking them

1146
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 11: from ground zero. So they don't they're not even they

1147
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 11: don't understand the business or any concept. So trying to

1148
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 11: the way that I come up and the way that

1149
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 11: my process was, Yeah, sometimes I get some blank stairs

1150
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 11: like I have no idea what this man is talking about,

1151
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 11: and then you have to continue break it down and

1152
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 11: hopefully they feel we talk.

1153
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 4: Let me.

1154
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: H was saying, the big the most important thing isn't athleticism.

1155
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: It's the risks being able to hold his microphone and

1156
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: do what a Rick Flair could do, Do what a

1157
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: Dusty Roads can do, Do what a rock can do,

1158
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Do what a John Cena could do. Captivate that audience,

1159
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: Hold that audience. They're hanging on everything that you say.

1160
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: People still can recite that Rick Flair jet setting, limousine

1161
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: ride Rod Lakes where alligated he's been more, He's wasted

1162
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: more liquor in the weird that you made in my lifetime.

1163
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 6: They know that.

1164
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: Would you say, what do you think is the most

1165
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: important thing that a wrestler needs to have in order

1166
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: to be what you become?

1167
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: What Sean Michael was, what Rick?

1168
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 4: You have to have the ability to make somebody care

1169
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 4: a bar none.

1170
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 11: There's been a lot of guys that have made a

1171
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 11: lot of money that can wrestle a liquor.

1172
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm being honest, right, but again, you

1173
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 4: put this in their hand, you're on your edge of

1174
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 4: your seat, like, oh right.

1175
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 11: That's that's that's number one you have to make and

1176
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 11: you don't. They don't have to love you. They can

1177
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 11: hate you, it doesn't matter. They just have to have

1178
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 11: you have to be able to make people feel a

1179
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 11: certain way. Yes, And if you got that, everything everything

1180
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 11: else can take care of itself. You don't need to

1181
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 11: be We always say Luthez is an old time, old

1182
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 11: old timer that could really wrestle. You could do it

1183
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 11: all right, So you don't have to be Luthez. But man,

1184
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 11: if you can, if you could make somebody feel a

1185
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 11: certain way, then you've got a really good chance of

1186
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 11: being successful.

1187
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: If I, after you give me your mount, rushmore wrestlers,

1188
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: If I get you get more head to put on

1189
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: there the greatest wrestlers of all time?

1190
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: Who would you put up there?

1191
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 11: So again I go back to who who were the

1192
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 11: most I guess instrumental in the history of wrestling, and

1193
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 11: I put Andre the Giant on there, Le Cogan, Stone Cold.

1194
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: And the worth Rick Flair.

1195
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 11: I think those those guys are synonymous with the history

1196
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 11: of our of our industry right now. There's been guys

1197
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 11: that are better talkers, Yes, the guys have been better wrestlers, yes.

1198
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 11: For for guys that had impact, those are those are

1199
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 11: my four.

1200
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: And a lot of people don't really.

1201
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: Andre was at the very very beginning, because Andre started

1202
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: I remember him. I saw him in Baxley, Georgia, uh

1203
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: and went with Georgia Championship Wrestling because it was you

1204
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: know south, it was you know, you had mid Atlantic,

1205
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: you had the Midwest, you had Georgia, Florida, you had Southwest.

1206
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: And so I got an opportunity to see him. And

1207
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: I just remember as a kid looking like they ain't

1208
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: nobody there's no man in the world ever been this.

1209
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 11: Big, right, yeah, most people didn't understand with Andre and

1210
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 11: this is what he was doing back then. He was

1211
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 11: in a different place every every day. Right, he would

1212
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 11: be down in mid South or and then he would

1213
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 11: be in California, and.

1214
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 4: Then he would go to Japan.

1215
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 11: He was He was the international superstar long before anybody else.

1216
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 11: He was the first guy that was on Johnny Carson

1217
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 11: all of those shows.

1218
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: Yea, and he did he didn't he didn't talk, but

1219
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: he would. People were in alle of his size. Nobody

1220
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: had ever seen a man that big. He had never

1221
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: seen a man with a hand that wore a size

1222
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: twenty three ring and whatever size he was, he weighed

1223
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds.

1224
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 2: Was seven feet tall.

1225
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: So like, am I ever going to see somebody that

1226
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: size again of my life? I better.

1227
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: I better, I better enjoy it.

1228
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, and it's just a I remember going like

1229
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 11: I grew up in Houston, and I remember him coming

1230
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 11: to Houston wrestling with Sam Houston Coliseum there.

1231
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: I think I might have been.

1232
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 11: Ten or twelve years old and got close enough, you know,

1233
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 11: to shake his.

1234
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: Hand and it was just like like I catch his

1235
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: Oh if my hand was lost.

1236
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 11: But then ten years later, I'm in the same dressing

1237
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 11: room with Andre the Giants.

1238
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 4: Right now, that's a full circle loan.

1239
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and I remember with him and Big John

1240
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: stud fault.

1241
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 6: Dude.

1242
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: I just say this about Andre. If he want to

1243
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: be alone, he can be alone.

1244
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Rick was telling stories like if he

1245
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: liked you, he liked you. If he didn't like you,

1246
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: he didn't like you, and there was nothing nobody could

1247
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: say or do, and the.

1248
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: Match was gonna go how he said it was gonna.

1249
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: Come absolutely, And what you're you gonna do?

1250
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 10: What are you gonna do with Andre whatever he says,

1251
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 10: that's exactly what you're gonna do.

1252
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: Now that we see the UFC all this is under

1253
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: one umbrella UFC. You know the boxing PREVR, I mean,

1254
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: and you see the crossover peeling you see this big

1255
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: because I guess this is like, I mean, this fight

1256
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: here is as big the buzz and electricity that you

1257
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: have like Pakiao and and Lowing. Yes, this is common

1258
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: because the way you guys put on a summer slam

1259
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: in you summer fair, the way you guys do that,

1260
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: this is kind of like similar to the buzz that

1261
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: this is creating is very similar to what you guys do.

1262
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1263
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 11: Well again, this is a let's make it very well

1264
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 11: be the fight of the decade, right, I mean, these

1265
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 11: kind of fights just don't come along, no, right, And

1266
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 11: there's just something different about this caliber of fight, right,

1267
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 11: I mean I was at I was at De la

1268
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 11: Hoya and Trinidad and Tyson and Lennox. Yeah, like it's

1269
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 11: just a different kind of buzz. And then when you

1270
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 11: put the machine of of t k O and.

1271
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: That Netflix flicks behind you and you got your guy Turkey.

1272
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, excellency.

1273
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, I mean, and he is such a huge

1274
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 11: sports fan.

1275
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: Man.

1276
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 11: It's just it's just crazy, the buzz and the and

1277
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 11: the attention that's uh gonna be on this fight this weekend.

1278
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited when you watch, when you watch the

1279
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: day and I know you're still a fan of the sport.

1280
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: When you watch today, do you see anybody any young

1281
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Undertaker's coming up?

1282
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: It's it's hard.

1283
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 11: I mean I see a lot of people that are

1284
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 11: coming up that are gonna be that have potential to

1285
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 11: be stars now, whether they're their their characters or whatever,

1286
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 11: they are similar to mine. Like well, I guess the

1287
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 11: closest within the past few years obviously was Spray Wyatt.

1288
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1289
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: We lost uh, you know, we lost him last.

1290
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 11: Year, but he was in that in that category of

1291
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 11: Undertaker esque.

1292
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1293
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 11: I don't know that anybody's really honed in there, but

1294
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 11: we have a lot of young talent coming up and

1295
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 11: and it'll probably be debuting really soon because the machine again, yeah,

1296
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 11: you got.

1297
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: To run it fresh.

1298
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1299
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: Did you pick the name Undertaker that he gave you?

1300
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: That name?

1301
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 6: Uh?

1302
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: That that name was given to me by by Vince.

1303
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

1304
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 11: He he had this, he had this envisioned in his mind,

1305
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 11: this character and uh, basically he needed a big guy

1306
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 11: with very limited personality.

1307
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm your guy.

1308
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, so again, but it was something that resonated with me.

1309
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 11: You know, when he was showing you know, everything was

1310
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 11: on these big storyboards and I'm in his office and

1311
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 11: he's showing me this and and immediately my brain is like,

1312
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 11: this this is Yeah. I knew, like I knew, I

1313
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 11: didn't know what it was going to become, but I

1314
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 11: knew it was different, and I knew it was special,

1315
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 11: and yeah, I was like, yeah, this is this is

1316
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 11: pretty cool.

1317
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 1: How many people over the last fifteen years have called

1318
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: you by your real name or everybody just call you Undertaker?

1319
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 11: Most people call me taker, taker or dead Man, right

1320
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 11: that dead Man was my was my nickname. And yeah,

1321
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 11: sometimes people, you know, they'll they'll say Mark and I

1322
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 11: don't even.

1323
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: Turn around, right, but if I hear Taker, I know

1324
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: it was up or dead Man.

1325
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 11: But it's kind of funny, like when you're in public

1326
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 11: places and you know somebody, hey, dead Man, and everybody's

1327
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 11: kind of looking around, like, what.

1328
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 4: The hell's wrong with him?

1329
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: What do you think? The number one story that resonate

1330
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: with wrestling fans.

1331
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 11: The number one they they have to Again, it goes

1332
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 11: back to that connection that I was talking about. If

1333
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 11: if they're invested in you and and they care about

1334
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 11: one of the one of the things that a lot

1335
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 11: of other guys, it takes them a while to figure

1336
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 11: out because they're so athletic. Now, if that's what they

1337
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 11: want to put, that's what they would want to They

1338
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 11: want to display their athleticism, and that's great. But at

1339
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 11: the end of the day, your audience will get desensitized

1340
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 11: or or you have to continue to push the info

1341
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 11: the boundary, right, Like, Okay, I've seen you do a

1342
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 11: double backflip off the top rope onto the floor to somebody,

1343
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 11: and I've seen that a couple of times.

1344
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: Now, what do you got for me? Right?

1345
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 11: But if if, if you can get them invested in

1346
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 11: the character, and if somebody does that character wrong, now

1347
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 11: you got them right, Because that's what it's all about.

1348
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 11: If you love some you're gonna pay money to see

1349
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 11: that dude kick the other dude's ass. Or if you

1350
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 11: don't like that guy for a reason, I want this

1351
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 11: guy to whoop his right, I can go.

1352
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: I will go whether he wins, whether I want somebody

1353
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: to beat it or I want him to win, but

1354
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see it.

1355
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 4: That's the gist of what we do.

1356
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 11: We storytell and we try to get people invested in

1357
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 11: the characters.

1358
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 4: Wrestling, isn't it.

1359
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 11: And I tell people this a lot, especially to the

1360
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 11: young guys when you're you're asking me earlier, Wrestling isn't

1361
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 11: about wrestling moves.

1362
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 4: Wrestling is about telling story stories. We use the moves

1363
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: to help tell.

1364
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 11: The story, but it's all on a on a connection

1365
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 11: and that's you know, that's the biggest thing. Once that

1366
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 11: black bulb goes off, then you then you've got a

1367
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 11: good chance to doing well.

1368
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: I like that you got anything that was that was good.

1369
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

1370
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean to sit down and to watch like growing up,

1371
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: like I said, I've been a fan and know the wrestling, and.

1372
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: To to to to see you an age and to

1373
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: see you, know.

1374
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Sean Michaels, and I sat down with Rick and sat

1375
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: down with John Cena and to to to like, like

1376
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: you said, to watch guys on television, and all of

1377
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: a sudden, through this job allowed me to sit it

1378
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: down and sit across from you.

1379
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 6: Man.

1380
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 2: It is indeed and on or.

1381
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys making time for me. This is uh.

1382
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 11: I enjoy I enjoy y'all. I love y'all's banter. Fancy

1383
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 11: those career that other career you guys.

1384
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 8: I appreciate it, sir, I appreciate it.

1385
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: Man. It's a pleasure.

1386
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 7: Baby.

1387
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 4: How you doing?

1388
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 12: I'm better now.

1389
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: I like it.

1390
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 6: I like it.

1391
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: Welcome the night with day Camp normally day cap.

1392
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: So have you been good?

1393
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm here sackdown the night off.

1394
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:47,959
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1395
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: Look, everybody knows you're your famous father.

1396
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: By the legend rowing up.

1397
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 2: Watching your father. Is this what you always wanted to do?

1398
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 13: I I don't think growing up in the error that

1399
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 13: my dad wrestled and being an athlete and seeing like

1400
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 13: what the women were doing at that.

1401
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 12: Time, I wasn't like, oh I could be like that.

1402
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 13: They were just so glamorous and sometimes like in bikinis,

1403
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 13: but but cream bikinis.

1404
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 12: It just wasn't like, I don't know, it wasn't a

1405
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 12: dream of mine. But my little brother wanted to be

1406
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 12: just like my dad.

1407
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1408
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, and he had a really bad drug addiction, so

1409
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 13: I thought if I started wrestling that we could wrestle together,

1410
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 13: and he ended up passing away. But now it's like,

1411
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 13: I'm living both our dreams. So I just thank him

1412
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 13: for having the guts.

1413
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 6: To do it right.

1414
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 8: So if if wrestling wasn't your dream and it was

1415
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 8: a dream of your brothers, what would you have done

1416
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 8: if you didn't transition?

1417
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: Into wrestling.

1418
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 13: I don't know, I think personal training or something within

1419
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 13: the sports realm.

1420
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1421
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 13: That's what I always played sports something.

1422
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: There that you received a lot of online hate because

1423
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: you came back from an injury and you immediately got

1424
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: a title shot.

1425
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 6: Yes, and how.

1426
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: Look because everybody probably said you got a fact, you

1427
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: got fast tracked because you was Rick Flair's daughter, and

1428
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: so there was all. You probably always had to deal

1429
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: with hate because of your famous father, and you probably

1430
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: were able to deal with it a lot better than others,

1431
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: not in the beginning, but as you got older because

1432
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: you had to deal with it for so long.

1433
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 13: Kind of well playing sports growing up, like no one

1434
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 13: cared what you looked like, right, and like also if

1435
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 13: you're the best player, you were the best player or

1436
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 13: team captain or hardest worker in the room, Like no

1437
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 13: one gave a excuse me, No one cared career dad

1438
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 13: was like they might have wooted me. So like I

1439
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 13: was used to that, but being in the entertainment industry

1440
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 13: that also, you know it is it's sports and entertainment.

1441
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 13: I just wasn't prepared for the online hate with like

1442
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 13: why does she look like her dad?

1443
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1444
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 13: I'm his daughter, Like, I'm like, why is that like

1445
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 13: such a big deal. But I definitely obviously got in

1446
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 13: the door easy because.

1447
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 6: Of my dad.

1448
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 12: But there's I mean, you don't do.

1449
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 13: What I do everything, Like I've carved out my own path,

1450
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 13: but I still have that chip on my shoulder because

1451
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 13: it's like, no matter what you do, no matter how

1452
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 13: many first you've had or how many awards accolades are

1453
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 13: best match of the night, it's still like, oh Rick Flair.

1454
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 13: So but it's okay, Like, you need haters in this world.

1455
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: Right, you have a problems.

1456
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 8: Have you been able to deal with that and navigate

1457
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 8: having the haters regardless of the work and understanding I have.

1458
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 13: When I first started, it was hard, but I think

1459
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 13: it also propelled me to where I am today, Like

1460
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 13: it made me, like, I think work that much harder.

1461
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned like when you was growing up and your dad,

1462
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: the women, it's not like now you and Tory Wilson.

1463
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, and the women definitely paved the way.

1464
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 13: They just weren't given the opportunity or the platform to

1465
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 13: show the world what they could do. So did I

1466
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 13: mean they had to do all of that so we

1467
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 13: could do all.

1468
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 12: Of this, and I'm definitely aware of that.

1469
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 1: But the women I grew up watching your dad very

1470
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: young age. You know, basically they were the fabulous Molay

1471
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: that was really the only vis and you know they

1472
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: would they would you see one woman's match a month,

1473
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: if if that?

1474
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, they were just eye candy.

1475
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: That was it.

1476
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: And but now you guys, you know you and Bianca,

1477
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,959
Speaker 1: but Laire and all these in sky you guys get center.

1478
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: Stage, you guys, you guys get main events. What when you.

1479
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: Think about it, like, man, I got twenty thousand people cheering.

1480
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 12: Oh, I've had like one hundred and one thousand people.

1481
01:08:54,840 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 12: So I don't know what first met life?

1482
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 13: No, I think for me, what's what's still like I

1483
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 13: still can't believe I'm here? Is I can remember sitting

1484
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 13: front row when my dad wrestled Sean in Orlando when

1485
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 13: he retired, and I was a fan of wrestling, like

1486
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 13: I was a fan of my dad, but I didn't

1487
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 13: really follow it. I didn't have a favorite superstar. I

1488
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 13: was like, oh, Sting, he's like super sexy or like

1489
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 13: you know, like Triple H or Andy Jordan, But I

1490
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 13: didn't really follow it. So to be sitting front row

1491
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 13: and then seeing all these grown men crying over my

1492
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 13: dad retiring and all these WU signs. I was like, oh,

1493
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 13: my dad like means a lot to this business. Like

1494
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 13: I had no idea. I think I was a little

1495
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 13: sheltered from it. So to know that that little girl

1496
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 13: who sat, well, I wasn't little. I was in my

1497
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 13: early twenties who sat and watched her father retire. I

1498
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 13: have now been on more Mania's I may have at Mania.

1499
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 13: He didn't like I have surpassed the things that he's

1500
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 13: done in the industry, but also to be a part

1501
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 13: of the industry that he help create, not knowing that

1502
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 13: this was like the path for me.

1503
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 12: So that's what's like crazy.

1504
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 13: And it's all happened in ten years, so like you

1505
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 13: can just change the course of your life, like if

1506
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 13: you put your mind to it.

1507
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 12: And I truly believe that.

1508
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: When I had him on my show, I talked to

1509
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: it and I asked him, did he want you to

1510
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: do it?

1511
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: He said no, he tried to talk to you out

1512
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: of it.

1513
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 13: He did because it's a hard life. I mean, it's

1514
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 13: a lot different now, but it's just like the traveling,

1515
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 13: it's NonStop. We don't have an off season, you're away

1516
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 13: from your family, you're away from your kids. It's like

1517
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 13: it takes a different kind of breed to do what with.

1518
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: That's what he told me, he said, He said, Jannet,

1519
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: if you're single, it's perfect. You gotta know you you

1520
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: don't have you don't have a wife, you don't have

1521
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: a girlfriend, you don't have kids. You know, you just

1522
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: you just the workout said for me, I just work out,

1523
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: wrestle on to the next wressele, work out on to

1524
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 1: the next.

1525
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 6: He says.

1526
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: But when you get a family, you have kids, gets

1527
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: a little hard with the travel that you have to do.

1528
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: It's not like it was when he Everduce started, because

1529
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: he was telling me there were some days it was.

1530
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 12: Harder than than it is. Yeah, it was a lot harder, he.

1531
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: Said, but he was wrestling two, three, four times in

1532
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: a day. Now, you guys, you know you might wrestle

1533
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: once maybe twice a week.

1534
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 13: If it is definitely more family oriented, yes, I will say.

1535
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 12: Right, but it's still hard.

1536
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to travel. It's big to travel.

1537
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 8: And yeah, you know the fact that you guys are

1538
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 8: so busy, your schedule is so hectic.

1539
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you travel so many days we.

1540
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 12: Don't have an off season. Unless you're injured, you don't

1541
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 12: have an off season.

1542
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 13: So when I tour my knee, right, that was the

1543
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 13: first injury in eight years.

1544
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 8: Right, So then now I'm thinking about outside of football,

1545
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 8: I have other other interests.

1546
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: I have other hobbies that I really like.

1547
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 8: When do you ever have times enjoy things that you

1548
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,799
Speaker 8: like outside of wrestling?

1549
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 13: Well, the business has evolved so where before we were

1550
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 13: on the road four to five days a week, and

1551
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 13: now we don't have as many live event shows that

1552
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 13: aren't televised on the weekends, so really we just have

1553
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 13: SmackDown Raw and if we're overseas, we have like the

1554
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 13: bigger televised events like Wrestle Polus coming up September twentieth,

1555
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 13: So we do have more time.

1556
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 12: But I think you just have to.

1557
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 13: If there's something that you're really passionate about, you have

1558
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 13: to set time aside for it. Oh like Seth Rollins

1559
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 13: now being on the NFL network, Like that's so great

1560
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 13: for him, but he loves football. He's able to find

1561
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 13: something else that he loves to do with wrestling. I

1562
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 13: know wrestling is his passion, but to see him doing

1563
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 13: that is really awesome.

1564
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: Still, being reported WrestleMania forty three is going to be

1565
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: in Saudi.

1566
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 13: Crazy, right, WHOA, I don't know what's more crazy that

1567
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 13: it's in Saudi or that it's out of the United States.

1568
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 12: That's what I mean by that, Like it's always been

1569
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 12: our super Bowl.

1570
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 13: It's been in the United States since what nineteen eighty five,

1571
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 13: So now that it is overseas, that's what makes it like.

1572
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 12: Like how global we are?

1573
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 13: Well, I think that for WWE, We've had so many

1574
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 13: shows there now for the last couple of years. I

1575
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 13: feel like it is I can't I don't want to

1576
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 13: say home, but it is. You know, we we wrestled

1577
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 13: there three or four times, right, So to have a

1578
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 13: WrestleMania there, I could see it being a big deal

1579
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 13: because we've had Crown Jewel, We're going to have the

1580
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 13: Royal Rumble. But again, WrestleMania has been in the United States, right,

1581
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 13: So that's I think the Wow, that's that's how big

1582
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,959
Speaker 13: the company has become, or World Wrestling Entertainment.

1583
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: When you when you you've been around this sport for

1584
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: a while and now and you see what Bianca Belair,

1585
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: what she's been able to accomplish. I mean, when you

1586
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: see what she's done. How did that make you feel?

1587
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: How proud of you?

1588
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 7: Ever?

1589
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

1590
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 13: When I saw her sitting at the press conference, I

1591
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 13: had no idea she had wrestled in Saudi nine times,

1592
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 13: so when she came up to the main roster, she

1593
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 13: really When I thought about it, I was like, oh,

1594
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 13: she's right, Like she's been in almost every big show there.

1595
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1596
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 13: She's the est for a reason, and she really is

1597
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 13: a role model inside and outside of the ring.

1598
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 7: Uh.

1599
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was like just proud sister sitting there watching her.

1600
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you like you?

1601
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: Like?

1602
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,839
Speaker 2: You like tag team? You like a partner, you like solo?

1603
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 12: Oh? Personally I like solo.

1604
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't like sharing the spotlight, but I am

1605
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 13: in a tag team Yeah, with the one person I

1606
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 13: don't mind sharing the spotlight with, and that's a LECs

1607
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 13: of lists.

1608
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 12: Yes, and I'm having so much fun. But she's great.

1609
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 13: She brings out definitely a different side of my character

1610
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 13: for TV, so it's great.

1611
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1612
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so how much how much longer?

1613
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, your dad, if your dad still had if

1614
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: its body would hold up your dad, it would still

1615
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: be wrestling. Yeah, is this something that you're like, Okay,

1616
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: I got another three years, I got another five years.

1617
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: How much long do you want to go with this.

1618
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 4: Charlotte, I don't know.

1619
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 13: I want kids one day, that's the thing. I can

1620
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 13: do both, But it just depends on the time. Like

1621
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 13: I don't know right now, it's what do I have

1622
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 13: coming up? An XT home Coming Tuesday. We've got Russell Palooza,

1623
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 13: Real Rumbo WrestleMania. So like the shows keep going, Yes,

1624
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 13: whatever happens between now and five years.

1625
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: If you were to have kids, are you coming back

1626
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: or you once you start that family, you're done?

1627
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 13: Because I think wrestling's in my blood. I don't know

1628
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 13: any different. Like I love it, but I do want

1629
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 13: to be a mom. But I think Trish Stratus coming

1630
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 13: back and having all these one offs and she's fifty,

1631
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 13: looks better than half the roster, right, She's killing it.

1632
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 13: So I don't think that door will ever close. It's

1633
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 13: just I do know I want to step away to

1634
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 13: have children and when that time is so that's I

1635
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 13: just saw.

1636
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 6: Don't know.

1637
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: I just saw some wrestling couple. She's stepping away because

1638
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: she's having a baby. I forget who it.

1639
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 14: Was, forget oh my girl, yes, Noomi, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1640
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 14: yes yes.

1641
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 12: I'm so happy for her.

1642
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 13: So she the championship and then she had Yes, but

1643
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 13: she'll definitely come back and win the title again, right,

1644
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 13: so or take her title back that she never lost.

1645
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 6: Right.

1646
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: So, I mean that means you you have to be

1647
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: off at least a year, and you're gonna need to

1648
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 1: probably you know, I.

1649
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 12: Couldn't manage on the side with a little baby bump

1650
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 12: to the ring.

1651
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: I like that.

1652
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: But so you'll so, in other words, you're gonna be

1653
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: a lifer. You're a wrestling lifer. You'll do you'll do

1654
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: with Jean Michael's, You'll go down to N S. T.

1655
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: And then you'll teach the women to do what you do.

1656
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 12: So here's the thing.

1657
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 13: Just I do believe when you are good at something,

1658
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 13: it doesn't mean that you're going to be a good coach. Yes,

1659
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 13: I'm not saying that I couldn't be a good coach,

1660
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 13: because I do love it. But right now, what I

1661
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 13: like more is helping the girls inside the ring.

1662
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 12: My mind isn't.

1663
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 13: There yet to be like, oh, I have to be

1664
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 13: on the sidelights helping right Like I feel like right

1665
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 13: now it's more like, all right, you got to keep

1666
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 13: up with me. Let me see what you got, Like,

1667
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 13: that's the mentality. So I haven't like switched off yet

1668
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 13: to where what that looks like. Like Triple H has done

1669
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 13: an incredible job, like going from what he meant in

1670
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 13: the ring to what he means now, and I'm just

1671
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 13: not there yet.

1672
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 12: If that's something that I want to.

1673
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: Do, How difficult is it?

1674
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: Because you know, like you know, this is entertainment and

1675
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: you got a script and you got to follow the

1676
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: script and sometimes.

1677
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: You might get injured, but hey, it calls for thirty minutes.

1678
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: We got to give it thirty minutes, even if my

1679
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: back is hurting, my knee is hurting, my elbow, my shoulder.

1680
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:36,919
Speaker 12: That's life.

1681
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's life.

1682
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 12: You just gotta do it.

1683
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't.

1684
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah have you have you ever been hurt early in

1685
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: the match and like, damn, I still got thirty minutes

1686
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: to kill.

1687
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 12: So I've only been injured one time.

1688
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 13: But when I tore my ACL MC and SCS, I

1689
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 13: finished the match.

1690
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 12: I didn't stop, but I think.

1691
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 13: I injured myself more because my ego.

1692
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 12: Wouldn't let me stop.

1693
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 13: So I got end like in the first two minutes,

1694
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 13: and I kept going and I finished the ten minute match, and.

1695
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 12: I was still losing the match, but I still have

1696
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 12: to finish it.

1697
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not stopping this match.

1698
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 13: But it was in front of the troops, so I

1699
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 13: was it was a tribute to the Troops show, and

1700
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 13: I was like, these people will give their lives for us,

1701
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 13: and I can't finish a silly wrestling match.

1702
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 12: So like I'm out there going like you just have

1703
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 12: to finish it.

1704
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 13: But if you go back and watch that match, like

1705
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 13: I landed on my head, I landed on my like

1706
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 13: it was an It was brutal to watch, like I

1707
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 13: needed to be stopped.

1708
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: Did you know when you injured yourself? Did you know

1709
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: you were injured?

1710
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 12: By the end of it, I was like I can't walk,

1711
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 12: Like I could not walk.

1712
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: I think it move, so you understood how severe it was.

1713
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 12: I did it well when I like.

1714
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 13: The first day, I was like, oh, that don't feel

1715
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 13: right right, And then when I fell off the top

1716
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 13: rope on to my neck, I was like, oh my god,

1717
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 13: did I break my neck?

1718
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 12: And then like twenty.

1719
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 13: Seconds later I could move kept going and then I

1720
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 13: did another signature move that I had and it like

1721
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 13: I don't know, I started the move and the next thing,

1722
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 13: you know, I was like flat on my face, but

1723
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 13: all the other things that I had to finish.

1724
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 12: The match I could use on one leg. And I

1725
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 12: was like, oh, this is this.

1726
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 13: Some not right because I've never, like you, never been

1727
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 13: injured like broken noses, teeth knocked out, things like that,

1728
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 13: exterior things, but not like interior.

1729
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: He Charlotte, you mean to tell me you was at

1730
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: the end of a match with like a jacker latter.

1731
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 13: I was in Germany, yes, and Carmela knocked my teeth out,

1732
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 13: and like I'm like walking back. Actually the referee, Charles

1733
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 13: actually handed me with two of the teeth.

1734
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: I was like, to see the excitement on your face,

1735
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 1: even though through the torn knee and the knock that teeth,

1736
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: you can see the passion that you have for what

1737
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: you do. And that's why you're so good at what

1738
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: you do because you don't look at this as an occupation.

1739
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: You don't look at this as a job. You enjoy

1740
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: doing what you do, so you don't see this as work.

1741
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 13: You see this as I wake up every day grateful. Yeah,

1742
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 13: Like you know how somebody's like, oh, I gotta go

1743
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 13: to work today, I'm.

1744
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 12: Like, oh, I don't work. I love my job, right, yeah,

1745
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 12: I love.

1746
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: It, Charlotte Flair, Ladies and Gentlemen Wrestling Royalty.

1747
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's on Nightcap or Daycap. Charlotte, thank you

1748
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: so much, Thank you.

1749
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 12: I appreciate it.