1
00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Rich, I got a question for you. What's the most

2
00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,840
Speaker 1: romantic thing that you've done for your wife?

3
00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,160
Speaker 2: This is hell corny, but I studied abroad in Florence, Italy,

4
00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,480
Speaker 2: and when I was there, I said, whoever I was

5
00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,079
Speaker 2: going to marry, I was going to bring there and

6
00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,160
Speaker 2: pro post to them there. So I brought my now

7
00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,760
Speaker 2: wife on a euro trip. We went to London, Paris,

8
00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,439
Speaker 2: and ended in Florence, where I proposed to her.

9
00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000
Speaker 3: So, yes, that is the most romantic thing that I'm done.

10
00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,600
Speaker 1: Wow, that is That's got me because I did the

11
00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,159
Speaker 1: most romantic thing for my wife last weekend. It was

12
00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,960
Speaker 1: our eleventh wedding anniversary, and I took her to the

13
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 1: live drafts for the scott Fish Bowl in Charlotte. I'm

14
00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,919
Speaker 1: JJ and over the last couple of years, I've been

15
00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,080
Speaker 1: doing everything I can to be a best ball bro.

16
00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,920
Speaker 1: And last season things finally fell into place. I got

17
00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,960
Speaker 1: fortieth in the DraftKings MILLI Contest, taking home twenty thousand dollars.

18
00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,840
Speaker 1: Maybe I became a best ball bro, but I'm still

19
00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200
Speaker 1: learn more about this game and I still want others

20
00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,600
Speaker 1: to come on this ride with me. So even if

21
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,880
Speaker 1: you consider me a best ball bro, This could be

22
00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,200
Speaker 1: your year. This could be the year that you officially

23
00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:31,520
Speaker 1: become a best ball bro. This episode is sponsored by DraftKings.

24
00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,760
Speaker 1: We've partnered up with DraftKings again this year for best

25
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Ball and we've got to can't miss offer on their

26
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,800
Speaker 1: biggest best Ball contest ever, twenty million dollars in total prizes.

27
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,480
Speaker 1: It's Draft one, get one, draft your team once, no

28
00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,040
Speaker 1: weekly lineup management, and your top scorers start automatically each

29
00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,040
Speaker 1: week all season long. Download the DraftKings Daily Fantasy app

30
00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,240
Speaker 1: and sign up with promo code Late Round. Enter a

31
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360
Speaker 1: lineup in the twenty million dollars Best Ball Contest for

32
00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,960
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars and get a bonus ticket for a

33
00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,160
Speaker 1: second entry two shots at the title. Draft one get

34
00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,400
Speaker 1: one only on Draft cas. The crown is yours. Welcome

35
00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,320
Speaker 1: into another episode of becoming a Best ball Bro. I'm

36
00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,959
Speaker 1: JJ Zacharyeson, joined as always by Rich Ryan Rich. What's

37
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:16,480
Speaker 1: going on? Man?

38
00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,399
Speaker 3: You're a good event.

39
00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 2: You buried the lead, You went to a barcade after

40
00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,280
Speaker 2: you played video your life.

41
00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,640
Speaker 1: You took to be fair. It was not only the

42
00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,680
Speaker 1: scott Fish Bowl that I went to with my wife.

43
00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,079
Speaker 1: I went to the Charlotte event. Scott was actually there,

44
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 1: so I got to hang out with him for a

45
00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,200
Speaker 1: little bit, which was one of the main reasons that

46
00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,560
Speaker 1: I went. You know, I got to say hi to

47
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,760
Speaker 1: my to my guy, and then yeah, we went to

48
00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,639
Speaker 1: a barcade after which was a lot of fun, and

49
00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,040
Speaker 1: then we went to dinner. I mean, it wasn't just

50
00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440
Speaker 1: like a you know, just a just a one and

51
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 1: done thing that would have been That would have been

52
00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,720
Speaker 1: pretty bad if I just went to the Scott fish

53
00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760
Speaker 1: Bowl Live event, hung out there for two hours and

54
00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,960
Speaker 1: then and then just went home.

55
00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 3: What did you order a cookout'? Is that a hush

56
00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,560
Speaker 3: puppies or yeah?

57
00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we went to go We went to a

58
00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,399
Speaker 1: great taco place. Actually it was it was delicious. Yeah yeah,

59
00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,000
Speaker 1: nice little, uh, little hole in the wall type place.

60
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, it was a great day celebrating. It

61
00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,880
Speaker 1: was also like, you know, eleven years is very random.

62
00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,359
Speaker 1: Like it's not like like we did we went to

63
00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Charleston last last summer for our tenth for our tenth anniversary.

64
00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,200
Speaker 1: But you know, eleven is just another year. You know,

65
00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,239
Speaker 1: I I celebrate my anniversary every day with my wife.

66
00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,440
Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Is that how we say it? Yeah. Anyway,

67
00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of updating rankings, so by the

68
00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,760
Speaker 1: time this comes out, hopefully those rankings are updated on

69
00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,520
Speaker 1: late round dot com. I do it every month for

70
00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,960
Speaker 1: like Dynasty, and then now that it's July, we'll have

71
00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,960
Speaker 1: like a weekly cadence and stuff for season long and

72
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800
Speaker 1: I've been updating the season long ones periodically whatever. But

73
00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, in the midst of it all, I'm trying

74
00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,560
Speaker 1: to finish this draft guide. But the rankings stuff got

75
00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,800
Speaker 1: me thinking a little bit about rankings for Best Ball

76
00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920
Speaker 1: because I get people all the time asking for rankings

77
00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,280
Speaker 1: and Best Ball, And I want to ask you Rich

78
00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,960
Speaker 1: as someone who you know, you're not necessarily going to

79
00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680
Speaker 1: draft two hundred teams or anything like that, but you

80
00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,280
Speaker 1: know you'll play, You'll draft a decent number. You know.

81
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,000
Speaker 1: Probably you are sort of like the demographic of this

82
00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:09,720
Speaker 1: show in a way.

83
00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, and the people listen, I'm the extension of

84
00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,640
Speaker 3: the audience.

85
00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. So I want to ask you, like,

86
00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,760
Speaker 1: how important do you think rankings are? Like do you

87
00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: look at rankings as this thing that you've got to

88
00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,560
Speaker 1: follow when you're drafting given the amount of volume that

89
00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,080
Speaker 1: you're playing.

90
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,280
Speaker 2: So to me, They kind of feel like the you

91
00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,560
Speaker 2: theory in auction drafts in that I feel like rankings

92
00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,320
Speaker 2: are important at the beginning of the draft, and I

93
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,840
Speaker 2: think they're important at the end of draft to kind

94
00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,480
Speaker 2: of select players that are relevant and are not going

95
00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080
Speaker 2: to give you zeros. But in that middle part of

96
00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,200
Speaker 2: the draft, where you're filling out your stacks and you're

97
00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680
Speaker 2: also reacting to the draft room you are in and

98
00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,040
Speaker 2: what is falling to you, I feel like a lot

99
00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,600
Speaker 2: of it is just about intuition and playing the game right.

100
00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,760
Speaker 2: If you are just a slave to these linear Excel

101
00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,960
Speaker 2: sheets that are telling you a list of players in order,

102
00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 2: then I think you're going to be doing yourself the

103
00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,200
Speaker 2: disservice as opposed to doing what's most optimal in that

104
00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,679
Speaker 2: draft slot at that time. And that's really what makes

105
00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,120
Speaker 2: this game really fun, is that there is so much

106
00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,200
Speaker 2: depth to these picks that we're making in straddling the

107
00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,279
Speaker 2: micro ecosystem we're battling in in the draft room, but

108
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,039
Speaker 2: also the macro ecosystem of the entire prize pool and

109
00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,040
Speaker 2: trying to score the most points in Week seventeen. And

110
00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680
Speaker 2: I think you have to be reactionary and make picks

111
00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,560
Speaker 2: based on who you've selected previously and who the people

112
00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,560
Speaker 2: around you are select.

113
00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think that being react, like I mean,

114
00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,159
Speaker 1: a common theme throughout the draft guide every year, and

115
00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,719
Speaker 1: it's no different this year. Is just about being reactive

116
00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,760
Speaker 1: to what's going on in your draft and understanding where

117
00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,120
Speaker 1: there's like pockets of value and stuff with you within

118
00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,719
Speaker 1: your draft. But I think that that's even a bigger

119
00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,840
Speaker 1: deal in Best Ball than it is in your regular

120
00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,800
Speaker 1: season long league, because in best Ball you're doing more

121
00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,080
Speaker 1: structurally than you would be doing in your regular season

122
00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,400
Speaker 1: long league. You can realistically just pick whoever you think

123
00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,040
Speaker 1: is the best value you in season long and go

124
00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,279
Speaker 1: along with it and you're good to go. But in

125
00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,880
Speaker 1: Best Ball you can't necessarily do that. And there's some

126
00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,360
Speaker 1: examples that I want to get to in a second,

127
00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,040
Speaker 1: but I find myself sorting by ADP far more frequently

128
00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,400
Speaker 1: than I'm sorting by ranking. Now, I will say, maybe

129
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,200
Speaker 1: people are asking for rankings simply because they want to

130
00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,479
Speaker 1: see who I might be higher or lower on and

131
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, within my rankings, which I think is a

132
00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,440
Speaker 1: fair thing to wonder and to see, and hopefully that's

133
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,159
Speaker 1: the main gist of it. And like the main reason

134
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,679
Speaker 1: for it. But generally speaking, if you're doing fifty plus

135
00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,599
Speaker 1: one hundred plus drafts, right, you're not gonna want to

136
00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,159
Speaker 1: really just be picking off what you think is the

137
00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,960
Speaker 1: best value at that time based on your own rankings.

138
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,599
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to pick off what the best value

139
00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,040
Speaker 1: is by what the market is generally giving you, right

140
00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,600
Speaker 1: what ADP generally says. And then on top of that,

141
00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,719
Speaker 1: you want to look at what's going on within your draft,

142
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,400
Speaker 1: and you want to build structurally right, like like you said,

143
00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,159
Speaker 1: like if you want to see that I like am

144
00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,599
Speaker 1: and Ross Saint Brown more than Jonathan Taylor, or that

145
00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,440
Speaker 1: I no, I don't even think that you would be

146
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,760
Speaker 1: able to see this necessarily, But like you know, I've

147
00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,080
Speaker 1: taken Ashon genty over Jonathan Taylor at times throughout you know,

148
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,680
Speaker 1: this month, and so you know, you can't really see

149
00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,680
Speaker 1: that because I'm not. I don't think it's ranked that

150
00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,960
Speaker 1: way necessarily, but tier wise it would be. But I

151
00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,360
Speaker 1: don't think that rankings are necessarily going to help you

152
00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 1: out the way that you think it might help you out,

153
00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,280
Speaker 1: because really what best ball is is understanding things that

154
00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,520
Speaker 1: from a bird's eye view, a high level and then

155
00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,600
Speaker 1: being reactionary to what the draft is giving you. Let

156
00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,320
Speaker 1: me give you an example, because there was a live

157
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,400
Speaker 1: stream that was going on earlier today on the Late

158
00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160
Speaker 1: Round YouTube channel where in that draft. So we've talked

159
00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,000
Speaker 1: about quarterback basically every episode of the show because I

160
00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 1: think it's the biggest storyline of what's different or what

161
00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,200
Speaker 1: you know. We started to see it last year. I

162
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,920
Speaker 1: remember we talked about it like the way that the

163
00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,840
Speaker 1: QB twos were creeping up pretty consistently. But we're seeing

164
00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,120
Speaker 1: it just full blown this year, just happening every single draft.

165
00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 1: And so in this draft that I was doing, I

166
00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,280
Speaker 1: loved the team that I drafted. By the way, if

167
00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,960
Speaker 1: you want to go look at it, we're recording this

168
00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,120
Speaker 1: June thirtieth, So it was on June thirtieth that I

169
00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160
Speaker 1: drafted this team. And I started with Bijon and then

170
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,679
Speaker 1: in round two I had Nico, and then in round

171
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,280
Speaker 1: three I got George Pickens. Round four was Terry McLaurin

172
00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,320
Speaker 1: round five was Jalen Wattle, and then in round six

173
00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800
Speaker 1: and seven, I double tapped running back and got Remandre

174
00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,880
Speaker 1: and Jalen Warren, who are two of my favorite like

175
00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,760
Speaker 1: middle round running backs if you are going hero or

176
00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,760
Speaker 1: zero RB, like I like both those.

177
00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,360
Speaker 2: Guys, you'd agree the inflection point pretty much of your

178
00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,440
Speaker 2: entire draft was the Wattle pick, right, knowing that you

179
00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,640
Speaker 2: weren't going to pick for another you know, twenty some slots,

180
00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,760
Speaker 2: like your entire draft pivoted on that wide receiver selection.

181
00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I could have gotten David Montgomery was available,

182
00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,320
Speaker 1: for instance, And I could have gotten Dave Montgomery to

183
00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,719
Speaker 1: pair him with Nico Collins. I just don't really care

184
00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,480
Speaker 1: for Like, I think he's more of like the traditional

185
00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 1: dead zone back than anything else. So I'm underweight, and

186
00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,880
Speaker 1: I will be underweight more than likely with David Montgomery.

187
00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600
Speaker 1: But so I'm sitting there and after I the pick

188
00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,800
Speaker 1: of Jalen Warren, I knew that in the next round,

189
00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,160
Speaker 1: we'll see what quarterback falls. We'll see what the landscape

190
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,800
Speaker 1: kind of looks like. But one of the ways that

191
00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,199
Speaker 1: you can sort of see the direction that the quarterback

192
00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,240
Speaker 1: board might go is if there are other teams in

193
00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,080
Speaker 1: your league that have drafted multiple quarterbacks in those earlier rounds,

194
00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,040
Speaker 1: Because what that means is is that there's gonna be

195
00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 1: fewer quarterbacks available for other teams to draft and when

196
00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,199
Speaker 1: there's fewer quarterbacks for other teams to draft, that means

197
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,640
Speaker 1: that they're going to be very needy and they're going

198
00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,080
Speaker 1: to push quarterbacks up the board more than likely, right,

199
00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,880
Speaker 1: And so I looked and before my late eighth round pick,

200
00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,319
Speaker 1: my eight to eleven pick, I had seen that there

201
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120
Speaker 1: was a team that already had three quarterbacks, and there

202
00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,720
Speaker 1: was a team that already had two quarterbacks through their

203
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,720
Speaker 1: eight picks. And because of that, I knew that I

204
00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,280
Speaker 1: probably had to reach. Right, that's the reactive piece to

205
00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,680
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about here, where if you were to

206
00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,480
Speaker 1: look at my rankings, you're probably not getting a quarterback

207
00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,559
Speaker 1: in either of those next spots, right, either of the

208
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,440
Speaker 1: the round late round eight, early round nine spots. So

209
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,600
Speaker 1: I took Jackson Dart because he was one of those

210
00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you could draft naked, right, And then you

211
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,040
Speaker 1: also have to worry about then the what I'll just say,

212
00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280
Speaker 1: are naked quarterbacks, right, the guys that people will draft

213
00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,520
Speaker 1: when they don't have pass catchers already because they know

214
00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,880
Speaker 1: they can get pass catchers late. Like Dak Prescott. He's

215
00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360
Speaker 1: not really one that you draft naked that people don't draft.

216
00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're gonna get crazy people all

217
00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,440
Speaker 1: the time in these drafts where they're just like, sure,

218
00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I'll draft Dak Prescott after, you know, in the fourth

219
00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,400
Speaker 1: round whenever I don't even have Cede Lamb or George Pickens.

220
00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: But you know, generally speaking, the team that drafts Dak

221
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,320
Speaker 1: Prescott's gonna have either CD Lamb or George Pickens. And

222
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,760
Speaker 1: because his ADP is where it's at, it doesn't really

223
00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,800
Speaker 1: stray because you're afraid that the other team's gonna do it,

224
00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,960
Speaker 1: So it doesn't really stray away from ADP that frequently.

225
00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720
Speaker 1: With that being said, there are a lot of quarterbacks

226
00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,640
Speaker 1: like Jackson Dart that you don't need Molik Neighbors to

227
00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,080
Speaker 1: get Jackson Dart because you get Isaiah Likely, you get

228
00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, pick your poison, you know,

229
00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,920
Speaker 1: with any of the wide receivers that that you could

230
00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,360
Speaker 1: get late. I ended up getting Darnell Mooney in this draft.

231
00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, THEO Johnson I think is still an interesting

232
00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,000
Speaker 1: twentieth round Dart if you want to go that direction.

233
00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,760
Speaker 1: So you don't need a pass catcher for Jackson Dart.

234
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,160
Speaker 1: So I took Jackson Dart at eight to eleven. A

235
00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,040
Speaker 1: little bit ahead of ADP. And then in the next round,

236
00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880
Speaker 1: I said to myself, I know I'm not going to

237
00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,200
Speaker 1: be able to get a stackable quarterback in the tenth

238
00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,840
Speaker 1: round if I don't just do it right now. And

239
00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,640
Speaker 1: so I took bo Nix, and I took Nix what

240
00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,720
Speaker 1: fifteen spots ahead of ADP and totally like a round

241
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,520
Speaker 1: ahead of ADP. And do I feel like amazing about it? No,

242
00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily from like a like a clear CLV perspective,

243
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't think that I'm gonna like

244
00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760
Speaker 1: look back at this draft and say, man, I got

245
00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,920
Speaker 1: a great value with with bo Nicks, because he's gonna

246
00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,080
Speaker 1: rise so much over the next couple of months. I

247
00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,080
Speaker 1: think bo Nix is undervalued. I'll say that. But you

248
00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,600
Speaker 1: know I drafted him because I had Jalen Waddle and

249
00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400
Speaker 1: you know Jayden Daniels has already gone, I had Tara McLaurin.

250
00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna draft CJ. Strout there to complete that

251
00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760
Speaker 1: stack and so and Dak Prescott had already been drafted.

252
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,640
Speaker 1: And so my logic was, I'm reading the board, I'm

253
00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040
Speaker 1: seeing that there are already teams with three quarterbacks. Chances

254
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,120
Speaker 1: are if I don't take one right here when one come.

255
00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,720
Speaker 1: When my pick is coming back, there is at least

256
00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,400
Speaker 1: a chance that I'm not going to have a legitimate

257
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,680
Speaker 1: shot at a good quarterback here right now. I think

258
00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,199
Speaker 1: in hindsight and looking at it, I was probably both

259
00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,400
Speaker 1: right and wrong. Like it wasn't as extreme as it

260
00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,920
Speaker 1: could have been, but it wasn't you know, there was

261
00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960
Speaker 1: like a Baker type quarterback that was available, and then

262
00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,120
Speaker 1: I did get CJ. Stroud. He fell a little bit

263
00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,719
Speaker 1: a couple of rounds later, But regardless, I think that's

264
00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,080
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons to me that rankings really

265
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,800
Speaker 1: don't matter as much as you might think. In best ball,

266
00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, where you really have to be super reactive.

267
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,680
Speaker 1: Rankings to me, are better are far more important and

268
00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,280
Speaker 1: logical in a season long league where you're not structurally drafting,

269
00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360
Speaker 1: where you know the supply of certain positions literally does

270
00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,160
Speaker 1: not dry up, you know, like you're not drafting thirty

271
00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in your regular season long league, so you don't

272
00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,440
Speaker 1: have to worry about that wall happening at quarterback and

273
00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,440
Speaker 1: really straying away from what your rankings are saying and

274
00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,319
Speaker 1: tight end same deal, right just you're drafting way more

275
00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,000
Speaker 1: of those players in these drafts, and then you can't

276
00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,440
Speaker 1: use the waiver wire. Whereas if you're in your season

277
00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 1: long league and you just screw up at quarterback and

278
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,800
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I just completely brought the draft.

279
00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,520
Speaker 1: When it's round fifteen, not only could you maybe still

280
00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,440
Speaker 1: get like a Tyler Shuck this year, you know in

281
00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,840
Speaker 1: some leagues. But on top of that, it's okay you

282
00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,200
Speaker 1: can look at a week one matchup and see who

283
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers are playing, or who the Jets are playing

284
00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,959
Speaker 1: or whomever, and maybe use a Rogers or g I

285
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know the week one schedule enough right now and

286
00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 1: say to yourself, I could use them in Week one

287
00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,600
Speaker 1: and I can start streaming. So this is the main

288
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360
Speaker 1: reason in my opinion, that you don't need to be

289
00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,760
Speaker 1: super strict with rankings and best ball.

290
00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot to impact there.

291
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,560
Speaker 2: First, the direct example of linear rankings not being so

292
00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 2: important is rock Perty was ranked ahead of Jackson Dart

293
00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,640
Speaker 2: when you made the Jackson Darks selection. But yes, a

294
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,640
Speaker 2: yuk who knows off the board, pierce all off the board,

295
00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,800
Speaker 2: Kittle off the board. What's the point of taking a

296
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,280
Speaker 2: naked rock party?

297
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:13,680
Speaker 3: Right?

298
00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,480
Speaker 2: So that is one part where you're deviating from linear

299
00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280
Speaker 2: rankings there and taking the naked quarterback who has more

300
00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080
Speaker 2: stackable pieces that we can draft later, and then the

301
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,440
Speaker 2: bow Nicks piece on top of everything. Of what you

302
00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,200
Speaker 2: said is, this is something you've talked about for such

303
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,240
Speaker 2: a long time is opportunity cost.

304
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,480
Speaker 3: And we know that while more important in bestball.

305
00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,080
Speaker 2: Because we can't take zeros, the opportunity cost of fifteen

306
00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,760
Speaker 2: selections in rounds nine to ten is not the same

307
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,560
Speaker 2: as fifteen selections earlier in the draft. So taking some

308
00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,440
Speaker 2: flexworthy let's hope cross our fingers player at that spot

309
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,840
Speaker 2: as opposed to getting a stackable quarterback with a wide receiver.

310
00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,000
Speaker 2: For that you made probably the most pivotal selection in

311
00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,200
Speaker 2: your draft. On right, you made a bet that Jalen

312
00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,960
Speaker 2: Waddle is going to have a good year. Stacking him

313
00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,960
Speaker 2: with that quarterback just makes sense in this game environment.

314
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,160
Speaker 1: The Chat graded that draft between like seven to eight

315
00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 1: and a half or so. I always have CHAT if

316
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,160
Speaker 1: you guys haven't caught the live streams before, I always

317
00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,960
Speaker 1: have CHAT graded out of ten. Whatever my draft? Did

318
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,480
Speaker 1: you know how I performed and what they think of

319
00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,040
Speaker 1: the draft? I thought it was like one of I

320
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,640
Speaker 1: love that team. When I walked away, I didn't get crazy,

321
00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,280
Speaker 1: crazy ADP value throughout that draft, but I just like

322
00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,600
Speaker 1: the way that it was constructed. I like the individual

323
00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,560
Speaker 1: players that I drafted, and it came together in my

324
00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,840
Speaker 1: opinion from from the standpoint of like just general best

325
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,240
Speaker 1: ball team construction, right, And and I think part of

326
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,720
Speaker 1: that was my willingness to draft bo Nicks where I

327
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360
Speaker 1: drafted him. You know, I think we get really bogged

328
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,320
Speaker 1: down and caught up in this idea that you have

329
00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 1: to because it's true, like better CLV teams and better

330
00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,840
Speaker 1: teams that have good ADP value will perform better than

331
00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,440
Speaker 1: teams that don't, right, And so I think that we

332
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,400
Speaker 1: get caught up in that sometimes and think that like

333
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,560
Speaker 1: every single pick has to be a crazy ADP value.

334
00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,880
Speaker 1: But it goes back to the very first episode of

335
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,600
Speaker 1: the show is maybe the second episode of this show

336
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when Pat Krane was talking

337
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,720
Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow versus Jalen Hurts. And there are times

338
00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,760
Speaker 1: where you take Burrow over Hurts when you have a

339
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080
Speaker 1: team that you are stacking Jamar Chase and T Higgins

340
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,640
Speaker 1: right where you have to do what's best for your

341
00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,480
Speaker 1: individual team and pass up on that value. For instance,

342
00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 1: when when I drafted Bo Nicks, Jayden Reid was still

343
00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,480
Speaker 1: on the board. I like Jayden Reid. I think that

344
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 1: he's a fun pick. You know, I'm not, like, like,

345
00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,560
Speaker 1: unbelievably overweight, but I certainly am investing in the Green

346
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,360
Speaker 1: Bay offense, and I like Reid as a player, and

347
00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 1: he was a value based on ADP at that pick.

348
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,000
Speaker 1: But I knew what I needed to do for my

349
00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,280
Speaker 1: individual team. And when you look back on your draft,

350
00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,440
Speaker 1: you can say to yourself, oh man, because I knew

351
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,440
Speaker 1: that Jordan Love was going to get drafted right like

352
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to get Jayden Reid and

353
00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,080
Speaker 1: then stack him because Jordan Love was because of the

354
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,800
Speaker 1: way that quarterbacks were falling. And so if you do

355
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,320
Speaker 1: what's best for your team, you know, obviously don't stray

356
00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 1: too far away from ADP. That's not what I'm saying,

357
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,760
Speaker 1: because you can get other ADP values elsewhere. If it's

358
00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,080
Speaker 1: one pick, it's not that big of a deal. I

359
00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,600
Speaker 1: made the comment on stream where a couple of rounds later,

360
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,600
Speaker 1: because I got Isaiah Likely then in the tenth, I

361
00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,400
Speaker 1: had to had to reach a little bit for him,

362
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,960
Speaker 1: and then in the eleventh I got Romeo Dobbs. I'm

363
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,480
Speaker 1: not a big Romeo Dobs guy. It's just he's a

364
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,679
Speaker 1: bringback for the Denver game right for Week seventeen, and

365
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,240
Speaker 1: I had Remandre so I have like I like to

366
00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,600
Speaker 1: at least stack one Week seventeen game like heavily, even

367
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 1: if I just get one bring back for another game whatever.

368
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,399
Speaker 1: But this one I got two New England Patriots. I

369
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,920
Speaker 1: had multi think I had four Denver Broncos. In the end,

370
00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,160
Speaker 1: when I drafted Romeo Dobbs, my example was, okay, look,

371
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,840
Speaker 1: I could have had Jaden Reid and then risked it

372
00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 1: at quarterback in some way and not had Bo Nicks. Right.

373
00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,440
Speaker 1: The trade off then became, oh, I still got Romeo

374
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,040
Speaker 1: Dobbs as my wide receiver five instead of Jayden Reid

375
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960
Speaker 1: as my wide receiver five. And straight up I like

376
00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,240
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid more than Romeo Dobbs. Don't get me wrong,

377
00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,640
Speaker 1: but in the in a best ball environment, okay, number one,

378
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,439
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs is a chance to just be better than

379
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,400
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid this year. That's certainly in his range of outcomes.

380
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 1: I think that what would we put it out like

381
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,320
Speaker 1: sixty forty, sixty five, thirty five something like that. Like

382
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 1: if that, I mean, some people are probably screaming saying, no,

383
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,679
Speaker 1: Jaden Reid's a slot guy. He's not gonna be on

384
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,680
Speaker 1: the field enough, right, and so just let's just say

385
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 1: it sixty five to thirty five. But in Best Ball,

386
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,360
Speaker 1: you're also looking at when these spiked weeks are hypothetically

387
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,359
Speaker 1: happening and the importance of when they happen, and for

388
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,760
Speaker 1: that individual team, Romeo Dobbs straight up might even just

389
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,640
Speaker 1: make more sense than Jayden Reid, like in a vacuum,

390
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 1: like without even factoring in cost. And so when you

391
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,400
Speaker 1: put all of that together from a structural drafting standpoint,

392
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 1: it did make a lot of sense to get bo

393
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 1: Nix and start that stack and then get Romeo Dobbs

394
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,200
Speaker 1: and kind of go from there. So overall, I'm very

395
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 1: happy with how that ended up working out. But I

396
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 1: think it just plays in this idea that rankings are

397
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 1: probably a little bit overrated in Best Ball.

398
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,160
Speaker 2: And by the way I said Brandon, I I meant, obviously,

399
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 2: Mike Evans and you now have a four player game

400
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 2: stack as opposed to just jayde and Reid hanging out

401
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 2: by himself in my.

402
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 1: Right, although to be fair, technically I had Nico, so

403
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: there was a you know, you had, you had at

404
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,880
Speaker 1: least a little mini one going on with with that.

405
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the to your point about the quote unquote

406
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 2: reaching reaching, there would have been taking CJ. Shroud because

407
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,200
Speaker 2: you took Nico earlier, right, Yeah, that would have been

408
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 2: a true reach.

409
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: Like I think with quarterback, if you are at risk,

410
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: if there is more than like a fifty percent chance

411
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 1: or even like thirty percent chance that that quarterback is

412
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: not going to make it back to you in your

413
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 1: next pick, then you can make the pick, you know,

414
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: Like that's that's sort of the way that I think that,

415
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 1: Whereas like with CJ. Stroud, there was about a ninety

416
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 1: ninety five percent chance he was going to make it back,

417
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: and he made it back plus some because I didn't

418
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 1: even take him the next two picks, and then I

419
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: got him the next one for my for my third quarterback.

420
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought that that example, you know, played

421
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: into the rankings discussion, and it is also a way

422
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: for me to say, hey, guys, go to late round

423
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: dot com and check out the rankings. You know, Well, anyway,

424
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: we have a guest today Nez Nez takes on Twitter

425
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: part of the Badge Bros. He's a big beast ball player.

426
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: He's also a Pittsburgh Pirates fan, so you know he's

427
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: a He's a man after my heart. We are struggling

428
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 1: these days as Pirate fans. It is not the easiest

429
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: way to live. It's one of the worst bullpens I've

430
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life, But I digress. I had

431
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 1: a great conversation with Nez. We talked about his most

432
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: common builds on DraftKings this year, early round fades that

433
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: he's had. He has a really really fun take that

434
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: I agree with injured players and how he kind of

435
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 1: attacks injured players, and so much more so, without further ado,

436
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: here is my conversation with nets. All right, as my

437
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: first question for you, what's been the most common build

438
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: for you this year over on draftings.

439
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, it's been. And this kind of hurts

440
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 4: me because I am like a contrarian by nature, but

441
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 4: I am doing a lot of hyperfragile, the four to

442
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: five running back builds right now. It just makes so

443
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: much sense in the current meta to do that, and

444
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 4: especially on DraftKings. A PPR website where you can really

445
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 4: just backfill those wide receiver spots with volume and just

446
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: you know, get lucky catch one of these guys on

447
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: a game where they catch a touchdown. It just makes

448
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 4: so much more sense in taking bets on those late

449
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: round running backs that really need contingency value to pay

450
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 4: off for the most part. I mean, maybe some of

451
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 4: these guys have their own standalone role that we haven't

452
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: really seen yet. You know, there's some rookies, there's Marshaun

453
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 4: Lloyd back there. But really really feel more comfortable drafting

454
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 4: the wide receivers late and tight ends late as a

455
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 4: post to the running backs. But I would love for

456
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 4: it to be a zero RB year because everybody's convinced

457
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: that it's not. It's just pretty hard to do so

458
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 4: right now. But I'm still trying. I'm still trying.

459
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: That's how I feel, too, Like I'm still throwing out

460
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: some zero RB teams because I don't want to miss it.

461
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: If because like, realistically, I've been doing a lot of

462
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: research for my draft guide. The last two years at

463
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: running back have been sort of the most predictive years

464
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: that we've seen at the position over the last like

465
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Like it's been very very strong, whether

466
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: that's due to injury, but I also think like the

467
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: NFL meta is playing into that a little bit with

468
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: just it being more run because it also been the

469
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: most run heavy years over that timeframe as well, which

470
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: kind of like allows for yes, like there might not

471
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: be as much target share going to running backs because

472
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: it's feeding into tight ends, but they at least are

473
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: seeing more work on the ground to kind of combat that,

474
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: whereas wide receiver they're just not, and so you get

475
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: sort of like a flatness at wide receiver. And so yeah,

476
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in the same boat where like it

477
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: just you feel so uncomfortable this year more than ever

478
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: going zero RB. And I think maybe the market's a

479
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: little bit sharper too. Have you have you noticed that?

480
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that the running back market is slightly

481
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: sharper with the player takes that we're seeing out there,

482
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: And just like you know, like a backfield where you

483
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: have like a Remandre in Travion, like two guys that

484
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: are middle round picks, it feels like a Remandre historically

485
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: might have been ahead of where Travion's going, but it's

486
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: just not happening this year.

487
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I think you absolutely have to admit

488
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: that the field is getting sharper, you know, as best

489
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 4: ball goes on. You are clearly seeing adaptations to the

490
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: draft boards right now, and the running backs are a

491
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: prime example of it. I think guys are very appropriately

492
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 4: priced in terms of roles that they have or have

493
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 4: had in recent memory, plus factoring in how many high

494
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 4: value touches a guy has in an offense and baking

495
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 4: in that uncertainty of the situation, like very appropriately in

496
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: my opinion, Like that late second round just loaded with

497
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: running backs that all have like different forms of upside

498
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 4: in terms of touchdown equity versus their role, especially as

499
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: a pass catcher. On on DraftKings as well, I think

500
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 4: the field's gotten pretty sharp at identifying who the strong

501
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: running backs are and how to how to value them appropriately,

502
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: like across across the board, and it.

503
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: Feels like like do you have a I mean, I'm

504
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: sure you have like some like favorites in like the

505
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, round nine to eleven to twelve, whatever the

506
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: case may be. You know, like we'll just dub them

507
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: like later ish type picks. But at the same time,

508
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: does it not feel like once those like year two

509
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: guys are off the board, especially in like round five,

510
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: you know, like the Tutons, the Travions, if you want

511
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: to throw them in there. Though I've I've personally been

512
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: drafting more Remondra than Travion, But like those types of players,

513
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: it feels like there's just a big, like drop in

514
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: projected product production after those guys. Do you feel that too?

515
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: One hundred percent? Like you are you are buying points for,

516
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 4: like you're able to buy points at those pitches, you know,

517
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: not like I came up with that term myself, but

518
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 4: that's how I that's how I think of it. Right

519
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: when I'm drafting running backs in that range, I know

520
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: I'm going to get some points from those running backs

521
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: once you get past And like Alvin Kamara is like

522
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: shooting up draft boards right now, which like I would

523
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: agree with. That does sound like he's going to have

524
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 4: a good role in that offense, which would be great

525
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: for a PPR as soon as you get past him,

526
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: like in around like fourteen on. At that point, you're

527
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: just like buying hope and the hope that like these

528
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: guys have something that happens to their to their running

529
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: mate that allows them to ascend to RB one status

530
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: and there are some decent bets there, some that are

531
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 4: certainly better than others that can I think have that

532
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 4: I have the confidence in them assuming that strong RB

533
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: one role if that situation takes place. But at that

534
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 4: point though, like, yeah, these guys are not guaranteed to

535
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: score points, and for me that that that means something, right,

536
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 4: I think there's definitely something to that where you know,

537
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: the probabilities are not in your favor for those guys

538
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: to hit, but we are well aware of the upside

539
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: if that does take place.

540
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, One, if we're looking at the early rounds,

541
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 1: do you have any guys that you've been generally fading

542
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: this year or are you sort of like spreading out exposure,

543
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Like I guess you could also talk about how you've

544
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: approached that historically, because I think a lot of people

545
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: are always curious about, like, you know, do you want

546
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: that four percent blanket for everybody you know in the

547
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: first couple of rounds because it's it's a more comfortable

548
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: way to sort of approach things.

549
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I've always taken a pretty strong stance in

550
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: the first two rounds of drafts. Last year just to

551
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: kind of toot my own horn, pat In my back here.

552
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: I faded Brian Thomas Junior pretty heavily. I faded Bucky

553
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: Irving pretty heavily in favor of guys like Derrick Henry

554
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor. Just thinking like, wow, these guys have

555
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 4: like really really strong profiles is running backs, and I

556
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: can I can build out teams that I think give

557
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: me better expected value than if I you know, it

558
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: took some of these other some of these other risks.

559
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: This year, I'm doing the same thing. I'm taking some

560
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: some some fades here. The two fhades that that are

561
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: the strongest for me, and I think this might come

562
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: off as spicy is Jonathan Taylor and uh In Saquon

563
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: Barkley this year. These guys, to me, I think have

564
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: some some concerns, different concerns for each Quon. For me,

565
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: the concern is, is that explosiveness still there that we

566
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: saw two years ago that really just did not show

567
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: itself last year. Can we fully put that on the

568
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: on the old o C. I'm not entirely convinced, on

569
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: top of the fact that he's going to lose a

570
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 4: lot of these goal line touchdowns, that that is so

571
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: massive that like him compared to Derrick Henry, Derek Henry's

572
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: getting that rock sat Klon's not man and that that,

573
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: to me, really really hurts the ceiling there. And the

574
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: JT Bear case for me is just are we one

575
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: certain that Daniel Jones can not only come back at

576
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: full health but do what he did last year. I've

577
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 4: been a Daniel Jones defender. I thought that he had

578
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: some some pretty good seasons in New York, but the

579
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: truth of the matter is that he's pretty inconsistent and

580
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: if he can't, if you can't do what he did

581
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: last year, it's a cascading effect on that offense. And

582
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: it starts with Jonathan Taylor's ability to be who he

583
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: was last year, even though he has obviously such amazing

584
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 4: skill and can break long runs even no matter who's

585
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: at quarterback. But Daniel it's hard to deny that Daniel

586
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: Jones was a big reason why he was so successful

587
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: last year.

588
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I agree. I mean you can even

589
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: look at the splits right after Jones went down and

590
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: it was just disasters. I mean, everyone who had Jonathan Taylor,

591
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, I got the league winner, and

592
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: then it just it just went to the crapper because

593
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: the offense just just was horrible, right, And that's I

594
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: definitely more so for me with the tailor take that

595
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: the Saquon take. I've still been taking Saquon not I'm

596
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: not overexposed, but like still drafting him. But the the

597
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: the difference too is that like there's a difference in costs,

598
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: Like even though like four or five picks is significant

599
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: because with Jonathan Taylor, I think Amana only just started

600
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: to officially go ahead of him in ADP and to me,

601
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: like Saint Brown, I'm taking him over over Jonathan Taylor

602
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: all day, just based on what his floor ceiling combo

603
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: looks like. And I mean he just also just projects

604
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: really well Amana Saint Brown does. But the JT stuff,

605
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to really see a significant gap

606
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: in projection from him to the bottom of that round

607
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: two tier with with some of those like Derrick Henry,

608
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Let's say, right, like, is there is there truly? Truly? Yeah,

609
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: j T will probably catch a few more passes and

610
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: and and be you know, more of a plus in

611
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: the in the passing game. And yes, you know there's

612
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: there's less competition for him on that team, but like

613
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: realistically we know Derek Henry is in the better environment,

614
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: like locked in better environment. You know, like you said,

615
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: you had to, you have to you have to play

616
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: into this Daniel Jones thing a little bit to really

617
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: buy into Jonathan Taylor. And so to me, it's like

618
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: that tier almost starts to begin with Jonathan Taylor, and

619
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: you just don't want to be drafting at the top

620
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: of that tier in the.

621
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: End one hundred percent. That's really where I'm at, is

622
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: like he is sneaky in that tier, and because there's

623
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: a gap between him and the next RB and that range,

624
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: it feels like he's not and it feels like you're

625
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: supposed to take Jonathan Taylor, but in reality, the projections

626
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: are not that different. And I think that's where stands

627
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 4: can really come into play. It's risky, but at the

628
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: end of the day, like if you're if you're playing

629
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: DFS and you have a guy that is more expensive

630
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: but projects the same as a guy that is cheaper

631
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: in cost, You're probably gonna take the guy that's cheaper

632
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: in cost exactly. So you can really make some outside bets,

633
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: outsized bets, in bets small using those those principles and

634
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: and that that's what I like to do. I like

635
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: to take some risks and flesh things through like that.

636
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a ton of sense. The other sort

637
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: of like pocket. You know, we kind of talked about

638
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: those running backs in that area. The other one of

639
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: the interesting pockets for me this year. And I'd love

640
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: to hear your take if you agree or not. But

641
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: is that like late third you know, through the fourth

642
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: round into the into the early fifth at wide receiver,

643
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: there's just so many interesting upside profiles there in my opinion,

644
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, I've been throwing a lot of darts in there.

645
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: So my first question about this pocket is are you

646
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: attacking wide outs there? And then if you are, which

647
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: wideouts you're sort of gravitating towards?

648
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent I am in this range especially,

649
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 4: you know, if you're talking about the three four turn,

650
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: that's you know that that's where that pocket of running

651
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: backs is. So I'm almost certainly making up for a

652
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: wide receiver in that range. My my favorites right now

653
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: as like like Rashid Rice used to be in that range.

654
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: I was just a gift, but that that's that's that's

655
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: long gone. But my two favorites in that range right

656
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: now are Jay Flowers and T Higgins. I was never

657
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: much of a Zay Flowers guy. Last year, the efficiency

658
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: just shot up like crazy, and I really don't see

659
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: how that changes much this year. I don't think the

660
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: target competition around him is very strong, and I think

661
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson's play style has changed, like in Jay flowers

662
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: favor as well, where he's not running as much and

663
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: Zay Flowers has been tremendous, and I think that that

664
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: target share really has nowhere to go but up if

665
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: not sustained, and if it does sustain, then he pays

666
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: off price as well. I've just been really impressed with

667
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 4: him as a pass catcher, so taking taking some Zay

668
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: Flowers and then T Higgins, I'm so in on this

669
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: Bengals offense, which does hurt me to say as a

670
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: Steelers fan. I think that T Higgins is just borderline, obnestly,

671
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: straight up underrated as a pass catcher because we look

672
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: at the box scores, we look at the historicals and

673
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: were zoomed out big time, and we see the year

674
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: the yearly results for te Higgins and you know, wow,

675
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a thousand yards in the last two

676
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: seasons and you know already. You know he's just getting

677
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: mogged by Jamar Chase. But when that team is healthy

678
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: and clicking, T Higgins has one of the best ceilings, yeah,

679
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: point blank period week to week, uh for for any

680
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: wide receiver. And if they can finally click, there's just

681
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: always something going on with that Bengals. Either T Higgins

682
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: is hurt or Joe Burrow gets hurt. If that offense

683
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: clicks and stays healthy, they are going to be a

684
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: wrecking machine. And T Higgins I think has upside for

685
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: like that Devonte Adams type of season last year where

686
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: he's just touchdown after touchdown after touchdown, and that's something

687
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: that I want to part of.

688
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like people don't give T Higgins the

689
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt for contingent upside as well, Like

690
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: it's like there's like there's like never discussion about like

691
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: T Higgins would would be seeing twenty six twenty seven

692
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: percent of the team's targets if Jamar Chase went down

693
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: if not more right, and like there's there's really nice

694
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: contingent upside there too. And then the Zay Flowers thing.

695
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: I think at this point, given the way that round

696
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: that early round three looks because like early round three

697
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: to me is not that much different than like early

698
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: round four at that point, right, And so like, I

699
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I think that you can, especially like if we get

700
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: late in the season and I want to hear if

701
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: this is the right game theory as me being a

702
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, an ascending best ball bro. Sure we can't

703
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: say that I am officially necessarily, but like from a

704
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: game theory perspective, for me, it feels like, maybe don't

705
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: do it now, because you know the millie. You know,

706
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: obviously we got a month and a half until like

707
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: things are really closed and settled. But if we get

708
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: into August and Zay Flowers is still comfortably almost every

709
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: draft going late third or mid to late third, it

710
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: feels like he would be the kind of player to

711
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: take in the early third to differentiate your lineup a

712
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: little bit, because there really isn't that dramatic of a

713
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: gap in my opinion between him and I mean, look,

714
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: I published market score New Metric for late round and

715
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: one of his top comps is JSNS twenty twenty five,

716
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm like, I don't want to miss

717
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: out on this. I wasn't in on ZA last year.

718
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's so similar to you. And like, I

719
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: do think that like the way that people look at

720
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: his end of season numbers maybe a little bit skewed

721
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: just because it happened late when we weren't even using him.

722
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I think it was like a week eighteen game where

723
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: he like went bonkers. But obviously, you know, the Lamar

724
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: Jackson injury happened, and you know he's been more of

725
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: that like floor play than ceiling play. But we've seen

726
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: the ceiling and there's a new offensive coordinating. There's all

727
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: these like factors where you can tell a story of

728
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: him like having a pretty six season, and in my opinion,

729
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: in that early third if he does stay back right

730
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: in that into that in that late third range, and

731
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: then we get into August and he's still there, that's

732
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: a way to differentiate your builds to say, oh, I'm

733
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: getting Dereck Henry at the two ten, I can I

734
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: can stack that and then even even get Lamar then

735
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean Lamargo's late fifth often, which is crazy. Yeah,

736
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: so you can get him in the early fifties easily

737
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: and just stack the entire team.

738
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah No, No, You're spot on, And I think people hear

739
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: what you're saying and think about beating the field in

740
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: that regard, like, oh, like I'm having I'm gonna have

741
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: unique Gibbs and Bijon combos. And while that's true, I

742
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: think it's more so important for like a personal portfolio standpoint,

743
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: that you don't want all of your best premium picks

744
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: to be paired with the same players over and over

745
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: and over. And if we think that projection, if you

746
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: think that projection is flat for those wide receivers, you

747
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: should absolutely pull him up. I've done that, I've already done,

748
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: I've already begun doing stuff like that with with Zay Flowers. Yeah,

749
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: he's just so set up to smash. I love the

750
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: JSN comp for the market score just because he has

751
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: such an outsized like shot of just dominating targets in

752
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 4: that offense. There's there's very little threat to him as

753
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: a pass catcher.

754
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And then in that range

755
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: though too. This is where I've struggled a lot, because

756
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I really like look, I like Luther Burden, I like

757
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: I'll take some swings at Colston Loveland at times. I

758
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: really like Jalen Wattle and Terry McLaurin, like there's so

759
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: many good white and like the the market Score stuff

760
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: loves Heetero McMillan. I'm still a little bit worried about

761
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: like situation and stuff like that, but like, I don't

762
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: want to completely ignore what market Score is saying about him.

763
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: But there's so many talented wide receivers in that range.

764
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: And what I noted from a port folio standpoint is

765
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: that now it just naturally fades the running backs there,

766
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: the Traves Etns, the Javonte Williams, Cam Skataboo. So how

767
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: are you handling that? Like, how are you handling those guys?

768
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Are you just like if you're going heavy wide receiver there,

769
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: are you just comfortable with being underweight on those running

770
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: backs or are you still attacking those running backs?

771
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: I am quite comfortable fading Etn and Javonte Williams. I

772
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: think there's big systemic risk in New Orleans. And I

773
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 4: say that as somebody that really came around on Tyler

774
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: Shuck and think that he is good. But I am

775
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: well aware of the outcomes that he might have tricked

776
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 4: me and he might not actually be good. And yeah,

777
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: and what if Jordan Tyson can't stay healthy? What if

778
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: Chris Olave like has another like there's a lot of

779
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: fragility in that offense that I think would really cascade

780
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: and have pretty strong effects. On top of the fact

781
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: that Alvin Kamara is likely to stay and take that

782
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: pass catching role from Etn. That was what made him

783
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: so so valuable last year. And is Etn. I mean,

784
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: he's he's fine, but is he a slammed where as

785
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: like some of these wide receivers are to me, to me,

786
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: no and Javonte. Shout out to Javonte last year really

787
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 4: made me look like a fool. Had to draft Miles

788
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: Sanders couldn't draft Davonte. I'm not drafting Javonte again at

789
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: these prices. He you know, he signed a big contract,

790
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: but he needed such a large workload in my opinion,

791
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: to pay off, and I don't know necessarily that that

792
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: is sustainable for him this You know, he's been injured

793
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: a lot in his career. So I'm totally fine with

794
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 4: fading Javonte. There could be some other running backs emerging

795
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: in that offense as well, But camp Scattaboo I not fading, sir.

796
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely no shot in my fading camp Scataboo. And it's

797
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent because of the back flip. But

798
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: the backflip did a lot for me. The backup did

799
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: a lot for me. That is a lot of force

800
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 4: on that leg, And yeah, that was really all I

801
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: needed to see. I don't think there's an outside bet

802
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: like camp Scattaboo in that range, Like David Montgomery, I

803
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: don't think has camp Scattaboo upside. Josh Jacobs does not

804
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: have camp Scattaboo up side. He has such the perfect

805
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: blend of high value touches that he can just dominate fantasy. Yeah.

806
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 4: He can catch, he can get eighty targets, he can

807
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: run for ten touchdowns. That is such a ridiculous profile

808
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: that if he wasn't injured, we're taking Kem Scattaba in

809
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 4: the second round. And I feel like uber confident in that.

810
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree that that is the one. And

811
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: not only that, he just checks a lot of like

812
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the market trend boxes that I've studied, you know, historically,

813
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: of guys who smash ADP and do really well against

814
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: ADP expectation, and like year two backs in general are

815
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: really good bets, right, And then he's got a great

816
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: pass catching profile, And that's the thing that I think

817
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: people don't fully understand about him. Is that, like even

818
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: him as a prospect coming out, Like the problem for

819
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: him was, you know, does he have the burst? Does

820
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: he have the long speed to be able to generate

821
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: big plays? The answer to that is actually no, Like

822
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: he didn't even show that last year, right, But it

823
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Like if he can gain you know, five

824
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: to six yards and get these like, you know, ten

825
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: yard chunks every now and again, that's fine. And then

826
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: also like Tyrone Tracy being back there, and I was

827
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: a Tracy Truther when he came out, but I have

828
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: to be honest, like he has not been an efficient

829
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: pass catcher at the NFL level, right, And so there's

830
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: a very real chance like Scattaboo, like you said, is

831
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: taking those high value touches, and I've been clicking his

832
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: he is the one running back, even because I've mostly

833
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: faded David Montgomery too, Like I find I find David

834
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Montgomery and Javonte Williams to be kind of traditional dead

835
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: zone backs if we were to reference like what that

836
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, the dead zone is kind of just an

837
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: archetype zone at the end of the day. But but

838
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: like they're the guys that you're buying into just based

839
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: on projected volume. Like it's not like Javonte Williams wasn't

840
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: just bad as a receiver last year. He was horrific,

841
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, like like like so so bad. And it

842
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: scares me that they're already you know, I'm not saying

843
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: that Jayden Blue himself is going to be standalone value

844
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: type guy, but I do think that he could play

845
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: a Justice Hill type role on that team. And if

846
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: that's the case, that lowers Javonte Williams ceiling, and then

847
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, on a full PPR site, you're

848
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: also you're not getting as much of that receiving work.

849
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: But then you're also just banging banking on touchdowns and

850
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: banking on him having another you know, like like like

851
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: at his price, you would need probably like realistically, like

852
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: a twelve thirteen touchdown season, I think for him to

853
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: really pay off.

854
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: Exactly you are, he's being drafted very close to a

855
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: ceiling in terms of the workload that he needs to receive,

856
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: and I just don't think he has the skill to

857
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: absolutely like command that workload. He needs things to happen

858
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: to his run. Like Jayden Blue just has to be atrocious,

859
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: like you was last year to do that. But Jayden

860
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: Blue year two guy, you know, maybe he's got you know,

861
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: a little more maturity about him another year in the building. Yeah,

862
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: I just don't like the javontept.

863
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: And I also like we sit here in late June

864
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: and we are talking about Jaden Blue in that way, right,

865
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: and like we we sit here and world and like

866
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: there's definitely tons of people listening to this right now

867
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: that are saying, you're You're really not going to draft

868
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Jvonte Williams because of Jayden Blue?

869
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 4: Are you really? Yeah?

870
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: We guys like like historically this is the game, Like

871
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to make the case with like

872
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: David Montgomery because what he marks at least showed us

873
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: something last year at least, I mean, he wasn't like phenomenal,

874
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: but he at least like was able to command some

875
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: volume and do something right as a rookie. And I

876
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: understand that you look at like the Dallas Cowboys depth

877
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: chart and you're like, well, what could change, Like what

878
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: could go wrong? Well, number one, we'll see what happens

879
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: with any sort of guys that gets cut or if

880
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: they want to make a move or something like that.

881
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: But also this is exactly what gets you into a

882
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: trap often with these running backs, is that you're going

883
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: off a projected VAU and of course some of them

884
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: could hit, like Gavante Williams might hit. I'm not saying

885
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: that it's it's guaranteed, right, but like that's the kind

886
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: of player that generally, you know, seven times out of ten,

887
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: if you want to play probability will will burn you,

888
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, because you're getting them off. I feel that way.

889
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I probably have drafted more Javante actually than Travis Etn.

890
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, which is kind of wild, because I

891
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: think that the ETN Bowl case is a little bit

892
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: easier to make. But the thing that has gotten me

893
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: is is Alvin Kamara. Like if he's there, he's he's

894
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing. And I just I think ETN

895
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: belongs like a round later. I think Javonte belongs like

896
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: a round later than where they're they're being drafted right now.

897
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: And those wide receivers just make it so much easier

898
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: to to take the wide outs.

899
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, yeah, very well said.

900
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: All right, so we have Skataboo, who you're into right

901
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: coming off that that pretty rough injury. Quinnchot Judkins is

902
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: also coming off of an injury, and we could even

903
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: throw let's throw Molik Neighbors in there as well as

904
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: just this general like, how do you approach injuries? Is

905
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: it a blanket thing that you sort of go by

906
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: and you say, I'm not drafting these dudes because I

907
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with their them being banged up

908
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: and I know, or is it just just case by

909
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: case with these dudes.

910
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's case by case for sure. It's because

911
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: of how different the situations are, Like Milik Neighbors is

912
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 4: such a its own thing and its own beasts, and

913
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm not drafting Melik Neighbors. I am of the belief

914
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: that he will end up on pupp and miss the

915
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: first four games of the season, and if we get

916
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: depending on when we get that news, I will take

917
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: the discounted shares when that news hits because it will

918
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 4: definitely affect the price. And if I'm wrong, all right,

919
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: I'm wrong on Milik Neighbors and he looks good in

920
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: camp or or is not going to open up on pop.

921
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 4: You know, the rosiest scenario you can paint about Melik Neighbors,

922
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 4: how high does he rise yet?

923
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: I've thought that too. Yeah. Also, also, doesn't it feel

924
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: like the wide outs that you would be taking where

925
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: he's going right now could easily just be eighty percent

926
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: ninety percent of what Molae Neighbors would generate anyway.

927
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: I mean, Milie Neighbors. We love him as a talent.

928
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot going on here that is scary. Yeah,

929
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: it could take a while to come on, and maybe

930
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: he goes OBJ mode when he comes back and we're

931
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: he's like a right here we go. But now I

932
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: am I'm waiting to take those to take those bites

933
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: at Neighbors. But Judkins, I'm not so worried about the injury.

934
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: It's just Wow, this offense and this team could be

935
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: very bad. This is somebody that I think thrives on

936
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 4: positive game script because he has Samson in the backfield

937
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: that's doing that pass catching work. Could they surprise us?

938
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: Could you know, Watson have a good season with these

939
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: pass catchers like around him and he's you know, at

940
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: least competent enough that they can score touchdowns? I suppose,

941
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: you know, maybe any quarterback in that back could do that.

942
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: But I have a lot of trouble taking Judkins over

943
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 4: somebody like Tootin, somebody like Henderson. Yeah, I'm not drafting Judkins,

944
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: but that's more so of the situation in the propile

945
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 4: as opposed to like his injury.

946
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with the Judkins take. Like I

947
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: U the one time that I've gotten him is that

948
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: sometimes he'll fall to the early sixth and that's when

949
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know, like I'm like, Okay, well

950
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: all those guys are gone, and now the opportunity costs

951
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: is maybe like maybe a Jags wide out or something

952
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: like that, But I can get exposure to those guys

953
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: and other drafts, so like, I'll get some, but I

954
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: would guess my Judkins exposure is going to be in

955
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: like the three percent range by the end of the season,

956
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: you know, the offseason. So I'm definitely with you, and

957
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: I also look at things in more of a case

958
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: by case with these injuries. One really interesting thing that

959
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: I want to pick your brain on is quarterback ADP

960
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: and what it's doing there where some of these QB

961
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: twos are seeing this upticking cost. But do you think

962
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: that there's a reason for this, Like, is there something

963
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: that you can point to to say this is why

964
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: we're seeing, like you know, CJ. Stroud go only a

965
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: couple rounds sometimes after like Brock Purdy, who we know,

966
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: you know, is in a good environment, produces et cetera,

967
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: et cetera.

968
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a bit of like a rising

969
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: tide effect with quarterback, where the quarterback run starts and

970
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: drafters on DraftKings just do not want to be left

971
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: with a bad quarterback, so they just they run to

972
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: the podium and draft these guys as soon as that

973
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: that big window starts. It just doesn't stop until until

974
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: they're all gone. And I kind of I get it.

975
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 4: You know, when you're in when you're at that range,

976
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: there is a better chance of somebody likes CJ. Stroud

977
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: hitting your lineup than Travis Hunter in that range. So

978
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: like there is there is that safety element that people

979
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 4: naturally lean towards. And there's also just a lot of

980
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: really good data out there right now that is very

981
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: very very hard to ignore that says three quarterbacks is

982
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 4: a profitable strategy and it earns you money more often

983
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: than taking two quarterbacks does in this current landscape. So

984
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: I think that has just kind of bled over and

985
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: draft gangings is really just kind of taking that to

986
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: the next level over here where everybody's just going early

987
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: and often. But it's it's I think it's correct, you know,

988
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: I think it's just smart.

989
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's the thing though, like, are you in

990
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: those like given the environment, given like you've done so

991
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: many drafts, you know what a typical draft sort of

992
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: like like how it goes?

993
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

994
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Does that make you then? Because like I feel gross

995
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: when I skip over a quarterback in round nine or ten, right,

996
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I got to get I don't know,

997
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell or someone random like that, right, Yeah, And

998
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: then I look back and I'm like, why did I

999
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: do that? When clearly a brock party outcome is going

1000
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: to be better than a you know, from just the

1001
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: majority of the time exactly look better, especially like Bryce Young.

1002
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: You know, like it's crazy to me that there are

1003
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: times where you are forced to make those decisions and

1004
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: having to choose a Bryce Young type player in like

1005
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: round twelve because if you don't, there's gonna be crazy

1006
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: drafters around you that are going to take them in

1007
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: that range. You're almost to your point forced to do that. Now,

1008
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: are you playing into that when that happens? Because you

1009
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: have to play into that or are you just like

1010
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: the majority of the time, just trying to get ahead

1011
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: of that in your drafts and just get those, like,

1012
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, round six to round nine quarterbacks to make

1013
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: sure you at least have some substance there. Yeah.

1014
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 4: No, I certainly play ball with the field and do

1015
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: my fair share of three quarterback drafting, but I'm not

1016
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: shy about doing two quarterbacks. They just have to be good. Yeah,

1017
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: I can't do good and okay, they have to be

1018
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 4: They have to be good where I'm not worried about

1019
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: ventu risk at all, no matter what happens, and just

1020
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: just leaning into those guys being good and hopefully you know,

1021
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 4: well stacked, so that way the bet on those two

1022
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 4: quarterbacks makes sense. But no, I am doing a three

1023
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: quarterback thing, and there's times where you know, in on

1024
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 4: my way to getting my third quarterback, I'll have my

1025
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: second quarterback before I even have my flex player. You know,

1026
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: you just have to do these sort of things on

1027
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 4: draftings with the scoring system and the in the ADPs. So, yeah,

1028
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: I played ball with the field.

1029
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Man. Well, let me ask you this. Let me go

1030
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: through a little exercise here, and this is something that

1031
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: was not, you know, show sheet related, but I think

1032
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: it's an interesting like thing to like exercise to walk

1033
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: through given this quarterback landscape. So let's assume that you

1034
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: got Jalen Hurts as your QB one. Okay. I mean,

1035
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: I love Jalen Hurts. I think that he's under price

1036
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: this year, but you got Let's just say that you

1037
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: got Jalen Hurts as your QB one, okay, And then

1038
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: I want to ask you different quarterbacks and for you

1039
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: to say if you would stop at two quarterbacks and

1040
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: be comfortable with that, or if you would need a third. Okay,

1041
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: we start. We'll start easy, Okay, we'll go. We'll go

1042
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts as one, and and Trevor Lawrence as your

1043
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: as your two? Would you would you be comfortable stopping there?

1044
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? Easy too?

1045
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: Okay?

1046
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: How about Jalen Hurts and Jackson Dart mm hm, you know,

1047
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: is it partially a Jackson Dart take for you?

1048
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Jackson Dart thing, because I am I

1049
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: am just kind of worried about that that New York

1050
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 4: Giants opp and so I'll say three.

1051
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: Okay, how about brock perty as the other one?

1052
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: Two? Two?

1053
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: How about how about bo Nicks is the other one two?

1054
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: He seems really underpriced by the way, but is.

1055
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: A stud that the Broncos are gonna rock.

1056
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy that. How about Kyler as your two, three, three?

1057
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: And then since we talked about it, how about Tyler

1058
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Shuck as your two? Would you need three? There?

1059
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 4: That's that's that's gonna be a three for me? I

1060
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: am I I love Shuck, but I can't act like

1061
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: it's it's a slam dunk.

1062
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: And then we'll go two more Jordan Love and then

1063
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield Jordan Love.

1064
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: I would go too. I would take the two risk

1065
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: on Love and then Baker I'd go three.

1066
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's where we're pretty aligned with a

1067
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. But I think I think it's

1068
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation because we had like I had

1069
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: Liam on and Liam is a very much a two

1070
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: quarterback guy, like he is very but but again, I

1071
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: think his point was very reasonable, saying that three quarterbacks

1072
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: will probably help you advance, but two quarterbacks might be

1073
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: able to help you maybe in the playoffs a little

1074
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: bit more, just based on the fact that you would

1075
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: get that additional flex you know, I personally anecdotally, like

1076
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: I went heavy three last year and I had the

1077
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: most success that I've had in Best Ball, you know,

1078
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: so I you know, I'm probably like I stick to

1079
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: three ninety to ninety percent of the time. Probably, But yeah,

1080
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting conversation to just generally have.

1081
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to to tight end. Are you more of

1082
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: an elite tight end guy or are you a late

1083
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: round tight end guy?

1084
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: I mean neither. Really, I love, love, love the middle

1085
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: range of tight ends. Arding with Tucker Craft, I will

1086
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: he has a chance to be my highest drafted player

1087
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 4: this this Bestball season? Does Tucker Craft love The way

1088
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: that he's trending off his injury and the moves that

1089
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: they made in Green Bay to me, signals so much

1090
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: confidence in Tucker Craft being like an engine and that offense.

1091
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 4: Because Christian Watson doesn't handle a lot of volume, maybe

1092
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: he will this year. I think he's a fun bet.

1093
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: Jayden Reed doesn't play fifty percent of snaps, uh. And

1094
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: then Matthew Golden Boy, I hope he's okay, bad, could be,

1095
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: could be a terrible pick, wasn't a good prospect, maybe

1096
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: he's not good at football, and then entered Tucker Craft,

1097
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 4: who was just a monster last year when he was healthy. Uh,

1098
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: just like like I said, the way that he's trending

1099
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: off this injury has me very confident in him. I'll

1100
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: still do three tight ends when I draft Tucker Craft

1101
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 4: because it's a PPR site. You can flex one of

1102
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: those guys, and that that range is just so solid.

1103
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: But that Tucker Craft laporta fan and it's range, I

1104
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: just that is that is the sweet spot for me.

1105
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Do you have any any late round guys that you've targeted.

1106
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, two guys that have targeted one, Mount Washington, Darnel

1107
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: Washington for the Steelers. Very very into him. I don't

1108
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: this is a this is a hot take, but I

1109
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 4: think there's a chance that he plays a decent amount

1110
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: in eleven personnel for the Steelers, where you don't. If

1111
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: you have Darnel Washington out in eleven, you have three

1112
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: out wide. Obviously, it doesn't necessarily signal a pass because

1113
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: he's like he's another lineman, but he can. But he

1114
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: has pass catching chops as well. I would not be

1115
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 4: shocked if he kind of steals some of a friar

1116
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 4: moose lunch there in that offense and then The other

1117
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: guy that I like is is THEO Johnson. I think

1118
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: THEO Johnson's out out of the wayside right now. He

1119
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: was a decent prospect out of Penn State. I liked

1120
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: him a lot last year and really kind of burned me.

1121
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: I mean, as for as much as an eighteenth round

1122
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 4: tight end can burn you last year. But he's last

1123
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 4: round right now because Isaiah likely is there good receiver

1124
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: Isaiah Likelee, But is he enough to totally dust THEO Johnson?

1125
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: Is this offense going to run you know, one tight

1126
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: end sets all that often? I don't know. That's not

1127
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 4: the way the NFL is trending. So I think THEO

1128
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: Johnson's a decent shot for a tight end of the

1129
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: last round.

1130
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: I love that call out. I mean, I think both

1131
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: are really really important to what the current meta is

1132
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL too, right Like I've kind of railed

1133
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: against this throughout the offseason. But the way that, like

1134
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: even the way that the Jags and like Gladstone talked

1135
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: about the heavy personnel usage across the league kind of

1136
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: annoyed me post draft because he was basically just saying,

1137
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: like this is the way teams are doing things. Therefore,

1138
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: we're going to do things this way too, and drafting

1139
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: the tight ends that they drafted and obviously reaching for

1140
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: one that was more of a blocker, you know, in

1141
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: like round two and such. And the real I think

1142
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: benefit of being heavy is the versatility of what these

1143
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: tight ends can do, right, Like, That's the important part.

1144
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: This is why the Rams can do it. Yes, they

1145
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: have guys like and this is why I think Terrence

1146
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: Ferguson's interesting because he's someone who can literally line up

1147
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: out wide and play that role and be like a

1148
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: Darren Waller type. But then they also have a Kolbe

1149
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Parkinson who's more of like the traditional tight end. Max

1150
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: Claire is sort of a more traditional tight end type

1151
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: player who I mean, he's he's a good prospect, but

1152
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: like more in like the not the Terrence Ferguson, you know,

1153
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: athleticism side of things, right, Like I think they were

1154
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: just looking like long term, like, oh, Max Claire and

1155
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Terrence Ferguson together is actually an awesome pairing, right You

1156
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: can be really interesting with them and be versatile with them,

1157
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: whereas you don't just like it's not just like let's

1158
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: just throw tight ends out there and then you have

1159
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: to look at personnel, which is why I think the

1160
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: THEO Johnson thing makes a lot of sense. It's like,

1161
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure what Isaiah likely is. I'm

1162
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: still drafting some likely, don't get me wrong, but like,

1163
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: like THEO Johnson could easily just be very involved in

1164
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: this offense when you look at the remaining pass catchers

1165
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: on that team, especially if Moleague Ihbors is banged up.

1166
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's rough. Yeah, I can really see a

1167
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 4: path to the THEO Johnson mattering given all those factors.

1168
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last thing before I let you go.

1169
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: I do this with everybody. Give me a hot take,

1170
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: a bold take for this twenty twenty six Best Baller

1171
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: NFL season.

1172
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is sort of a bummer man. And I

1173
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: kind of touched on this a lot. Is that I

1174
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 4: think a lot of these offenses that people are painting with,

1175
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: you know, rose colored outlooks, I think are just not

1176
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: going to pay off. So I'm really worried about the Colts.

1177
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: They have a lot of expensive pieces. I'm worried about

1178
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: the Saints. They have a lot of expensive pieces. And

1179
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: I just really think that these offenses have a chance

1180
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: to fail and they're just very fragile, and that's not fun.

1181
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 4: But I think that is something that I think we're

1182
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: going to see and then and then I'm more happy, like,

1183
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 4: oh here, here's what could happen. Is I think the

1184
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: Cardinals I think just could be a good offense. There's

1185
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: a chance that the Cardinals team isn't good, but some

1186
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 4: of their parts is so strong. What if they're just good?

1187
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: What do they just score a bunch of points and

1188
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: they are just the dream fantasy matchup week in week

1189
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: out because they can put up points, they can't stop

1190
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: points being put up. And then it turns out Jeremiah

1191
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 4: Love was a smash Marvin Harris breaks out in year

1192
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: three because oh wow, he was a great prospect. I

1193
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: guess you should have just took him at his cheapest price,

1194
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: and then it just one last rose colored one. JSN

1195
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: I think could absolutely repeat what he did last year

1196
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 4: and end up as wide receiver one in the event

1197
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: that the Seahawks defense takes a step back and they

1198
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 4: don't really have that much of a run game at

1199
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: the moment with Price, the rookie and Halani and Emmanuel

1200
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 4: Wilson there, what if they just throw more They didn't

1201
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: throw a lot last year, but they were incredibly efficient.

1202
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 4: If they throw more and Jasn is still this efficient receiver,

1203
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 4: he could have a bonkers season.

1204
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I like that market Score really so

1205
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean spoiler for anyone who's getting the draft guy,

1206
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: but market Score actually has Puka and JSN ahead of

1207
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase right now. It just it's just like the

1208
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: the inut go into that, like it just likes you know,

1209
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: part of it is like you know, teammate competition and

1210
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but like it just it just likes

1211
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: them more. And the JSN thing that I've been toying

1212
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: with as well is that is exactly what you said.

1213
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: Like we know statistically that that hyper efficient defenses regress

1214
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: year over year, like it just happens all the time.

1215
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: And you know, assuming that the that the Seahawks are

1216
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: going to be as domin like they're going to be

1217
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: really good still, but like as dominant defensively, it's probably

1218
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: not the strongest bet to make. And so yeah, leaning

1219
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: into JSN then makes sense obviously.

1220
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had to finish with some good news

1221
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: in the scars, like what what I think? But yeah, no,

1222
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: those are those are my hot takes.

1223
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right, man, this

1224
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: was this was awesome love. This is actually what we

1225
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: were saying before the show. Is our first time potting

1226
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: together and doing it together, which is great. Yeah, looking

1227
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: forward to this for a couple of a couple of

1228
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: Pirates fans just trying to get through right now.

1229
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, pray for us. Pray for us.

1230
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 4: We're going through it. Weekend night in, night out. Could

1231
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: be the best night of our lives, could be the

1232
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: worst night of our lives. Just depends on what happened.

1233
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: All the time. Let ever know where they can find you,

1234
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: what you're working on and all that good stuff.

1235
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks man. I am Nez Takes on X. I

1236
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: am talking about the Pirates a lot. I'm also talking

1237
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: about fantasy football a lot. I cover all the sports,

1238
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 4: so if you are somebody that likes sports, you will

1239
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: find a ton of takes from me over on and

1240
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: then on YouTube. I stream every single day John Warner

1241
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: and I aka Roto run on YouTube. Find us at

1242
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: the Badge Bros. Again talking every sport. We do cover football,

1243
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: so obviously it's football show. You can find us over

1244
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: there doing some besketball drafts over there every day on

1245
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: YouTube JJ thanks so much to this is a blast.

1246
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I love both of you guys. You guys

1247
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: do awesome work, so I couldn't recommend you guys more.

1248
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: And of course, everybody, make sure you are checking out

1249
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: lateround dot com. The draft guide will be live and

1250
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: by the time you listen to this basically ten days,

1251
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: which is frightening for me but it'll be joyous for you.

1252
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Go check that out lateround dot com. Pre order it,

1253
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe, check out the YouTube channel YouTube

1254
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: dot com slash at LATEROUNDFF. But otherwise, everyone, thanks for

1255
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: tuning in.