1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: by searching appspr. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Booming Up America Doug Godlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: you're having a great day. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: same bad time, same bat channel, every single stinking day. Sorry, 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: and we're fired at what an amazing time of year, 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: What an amazing time of year. Lots of firings or retirings. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: You might have heard from Dan Byer, like probably the 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: least discussed retirement firing. Whatever's Mike Schilt. I don't believe 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: for one second that he, by the way retired today. Sorry, 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I mean listen. I want to get to Brian Callahan, 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: I want to get to James Franklin. But I mean listen. 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: I reserve the right to be wrong. I reserve the 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: right to be wrong. If he wants to spend more 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: time with his family, baseball does not really allow that. 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: If he has something an illness or older, like a 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: parent who's sick, you want to spend I can't really 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: argue with that, but dude, what fifty seven years old 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: and he manages in San Diego and they by all accounts, 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: most people think they've underachieved in the playoffs the past 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: two years. I would take the A got to the 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: playoffs past two years, but consider how much money they spent, 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: the swagger they played with, and the fact that they 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: were up two games to one of the Dodgers and 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the Dodgers boat raced him. And then you know, this 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: year they get beat by the Cubs, don't even get 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: to face the Dodgers. I think there was that was 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: a that was the mutual party of ways. And then 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: you have Brian Callahan who's fired by the Titans. That 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: one's a case of two things right, and it happens 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: all the time when we have these first round draft 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: pick quarterbacks. Now. I don't know if Callahan knows what 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: he's doing. I do know that they weren't particularly competitive 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: for the most part this season. I think the crazy 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: part about it is, you know, you draft a rookie, 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be great. But they did just beat 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: the Cardinals last week, but shut out by the Texans, 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: smoked by the Colts, beaten badly by the Rams. You know, 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: Rams and Colts at home. I think we knew where 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: this one was going. And the general manager that hired 45 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: him no longer works for the team. So when you 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: don't have somebody to have your back, when you're going 47 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: through a really hard season and you got a rookie quarterback, 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: this is what happens. But I think it's fascinating. Here 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: we are six games into an NFL season and we 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: have a coaching firing and they're one in five and 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's going good. And that one 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 2: makes sense to me because the Titans could have a bump. 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Do I think they're making the playoffs? I don't. But 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: they still have the Saints at home, They still have 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: the Jags at home. They still have the Texans at home, 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: Chargers at home, Seahawks at home, Chiefs at home. They 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: got to go to the Niners. Not for a while, 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: but the Niners are all banged up, Browns aren't particularly good. 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: There's some potential wins on that schedule. The juxtaposition of 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: the the juxtaposition of the NFL game and the college 61 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 2: game could not be more stark. In contrast, we had 62 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: more coaching firings over the weekend, most notably James Franklin 63 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: and why I understand Brian Brian Callahan and this has happened. Right, 64 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: You draft a rookie quarterback and the expectations are that 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: you're all gonna achieve something awesome, and it rarely happens. 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: In year one, they brew them, they bring in a 67 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: new coach in year two, and away how do they go. 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what happens with the Bears, 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: but that's what happened with the Bears. That's what happens 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: with a lot of places. James Franklin gets fired after 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: they lose to Northwestern by a point, this, of course, 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: when they were twenty point plus favorite against Northwestern, following 73 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: up being a twenty six point favorite on the road 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: at UCLA, following up a tough close loss to Oregon 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: at home. I think the Callahan firing, while nothing to celebrate, 76 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: is reasonable. I think that James Franklin firing, especially at 77 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: this point in the season, is utterly and completely and 78 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: terribly ridiculous. But that's where we are with college sports. 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: This is why I say college sports, it's not professional sports. 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: It's amateur hour for professional sports, amateur hour for professional sports. 81 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: Because what did Penn State actually do by firing their 82 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: head coach? 83 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: What do you do? 84 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: They waved the white flag on the season and said 85 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: this thing's over now. They did just pass a new 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: rule where with the NCAA where you can't go into 87 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: the portal like you used to be, Like when I 88 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: got the job a year and a half ago, or 89 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: not even a year and a half ago. Players automatically 90 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: get the first thirty days in the portal, whether the 91 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: portals open or not open, right, And that's happened with 92 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 2: all these other schools. They just changed the rule where 93 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 2: now it's fifteen days of free open portaling, but only 94 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: after the new coach is hired. Here's the way it 95 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: really works in college athletics. They can make whatever rules 96 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: they want. If a kid wants to go in the 97 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: portal now, he'll go into the portal now. And if 98 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 2: the NCAA holds it up, they're like, you can't pass 99 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: a rule, you know mid season when other players have 100 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: been able to go into the portal after their coach 101 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: is fired, that won't stand up in court. Everybody knows it. 102 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: The point is, you've just led a match to your 103 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: program in the middle of the season. Lit in the match, 104 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: and it may not feel good with Drew Aller getting 105 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: hurt and having backups and being a preseason top ten team. Heck, 106 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: you were top five of the country going back two 107 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: weeks ago. It doesn't feel good. But have you seen 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: what's happened to my own water? The only thing that 109 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: people are pumped up about with Oklahoma State football is 110 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: a bunch of kids went shirtless and went to one 111 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 2: section and they tried to have set some fake world 112 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: record for most shirtless people in a section. That's it. 113 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: That's what the football games have become. Next weekend's homecoming. 114 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: Who's gonna go to that? Who's gonna go to it? 115 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: When three of your top players have put themselves in 116 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: the portal. The players all know they won't be there 117 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: next year. The coaches all know they won't be there 118 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: next year. Like for a week, it's kind of fun, right. 119 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: If you fire a guy before the last week of 120 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: the season, the interim coach can, Hey, let's run some 121 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: trick plays, Let's have some fun. Let's just go out 122 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: there and see what we got. Let's let our hang, 123 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: if you will. Brian Callahan's one and five, and it's 124 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: very unlikely, very unlikely that that season will flip. But 125 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: there is still the idea of you can flip it. 126 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: Maybe get in the playoffs. Probably not. Maybe makes a 127 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: little bit more sense because he got a different gentlemen sature. 128 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: But the players can't leave. All the players are gone 129 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: at Penn State. All the players are gone at Oregon State, 130 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: all the players are gone at Oklahoma State. All the 131 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: players are gone at UCLA, even though they're winning. You 132 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: have quit on the student athlete. And don't tell me 133 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: that the student athlete experience is important to you when 134 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: you fire their head coach six games in the season. Right, 135 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: they still got to go to Iowa, still got to 136 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: go Ohio State. Indiana comes in, who looks like world 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: beaters that rank third in the country. Go to Michigan State, 138 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: Nebraska at home. I asked a crazy hard schedule. What 139 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: was the win in firing James Franklin today? 140 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: What is it? 141 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: You didn't get ahead of anybody trying to hire Matt Ruhle. Right, 142 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: all you did was you you showed your hand to Nebraska, 143 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: which they might have thought anyway, but you showed your 144 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: hand in Nebraska where down Nebraska has until probably December 145 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: to figure out how we can keep our coach, if 146 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: we want to keep our coach, he said. Penn State 147 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: alum is the Ada Penn State. It's one of his 148 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: closest friends. So the juxtaposition of two different firings, one 149 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: in the pros Brian Callahan kind of makes sense. You know, 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: he was along for the ride with the Bengals when 151 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: they went to the Super Bowl. He did a good 152 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: job there, but he has him been a head coach 153 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: with James Franklin. And I know everybody likes to point 154 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: out that James Franklin doesn't beat ranked teams. But James 155 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: Franklin's Penn State Nadney Lions. They won two games in 156 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs last year, did they not? Those are big games? 157 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: Who cares about the number of the rankings next to you? 158 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: So you're allowed to pay a guy forty nine million dollars, 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: not coach. You're allowed to fire a guy whenever you want, 160 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: as long as you pay him that money and you 161 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: treat him with dignity. But you've quit on an entire 162 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: football program. You've lit a match and you've done so 163 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: six games into a season. Yes, they fire coaches in 164 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: the NFL not as often, and the players can't leave, 165 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: and they won't leave in the offseason unless they're not 166 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: under contract. It's a completely different deal. Please stop telling 167 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: me this is the professional sports when it's amateur hour 168 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: in the decision making, because ask yourself, honestly, if aler 169 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: would have thrown the ball on third down and gotten 170 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: the first down when he broke his ankle, or he 171 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: would have scrambled for it and got it, or they 172 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: would have found away on fourth down had he not 173 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: gotten hurt, and they kick a field goal and win 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: the game, and they're four and two. You don't fire him, 175 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: so you fire him over one loss. Again, you can 176 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: fire him if you want. It's fine. He gets forty 177 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: nine million dollars. Everybody has to move. You started a program. 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: Why in the middle of the season. How does that 179 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: make sense. Nobody's explained that to me, and nobody can 180 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: explain it to me because everybody knows it doesn't make 181 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: any sense. 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 183 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 184 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 185 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: App Stut gott Leeb show here on Fox Sports Radio. 186 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if we've had this discussion yet it 187 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: but maybe we should. If you listen to the podcast, 188 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know what song you're talking about. 189 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: But if you're not listening to podcast, if you're listening 190 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: to the radio show, uh, that song by what do 191 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: you know? What do you know that song from? Or 192 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: do you not know that song? 193 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 5: No? 194 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: I know this song? Is it? Who is it? Rusted Root? 195 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah? 196 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 6: I don't I don't know what movie it's from or 197 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 6: it was. 198 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: In Sam Well. 199 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 7: It looks like it was maybe a central theme song 200 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 7: of Party of five because oh, I never saw a 201 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 7: party party Google Ai added again, No, it says it's 202 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 7: uh because it's the ice Age YouTube. 203 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: Ice Age is what ice Age is what I remember 204 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: that that song was. 205 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 7: No, I'm on YouTube and and the song has a 206 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 7: backdrop of Party of five, So I'm guessing that was 207 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 7: like one of their their theme songs. 208 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 6: I don't know. 209 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 8: I don't know which one is more to blame in 210 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 8: this exchange, because we had this exact conversation three weeks 211 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 8: ago on the air and Sam was told in that 212 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 8: moment it was ice age, yet he's still googling it. 213 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 8: So I never fell dug in these situations. It's Groundhog 214 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 8: Day every day with Doug. But Sam should know better. 215 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: See here's the thing, Jason, that I've mastered. I've mastered 216 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: the art of not assuming that people were listening three 217 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: weeks ago. Right, So you got to act like you're surprised, 218 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: or you got to act like it's a new question 219 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: when it is clearly not. Tom Delesco will join us 220 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: after we get an update from Dan Byer. But Tommy's 221 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: former team was the Chargers. He was the GM for 222 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: eleven years and one of those games where you felt 223 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: like they were the better team. They struggled to stop Miami, 224 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: but gave up a score late, marched down the field 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: and it did feel like they were charging again, did 226 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: it not, Jase Doo? 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, my argument is that they did charge it, But 228 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 8: I'm going to save it for my hate. 229 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to love and hate top of the hour. Anyway, 230 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: justin Herbert under pressure, looked like he was gonna get sacked, 231 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: kind of sheds a tackler, throws it to Ladd McConkie. 232 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: Lad McConkey does the rest, gets Hm into the field 233 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: goal range. They run the ball a couple of times, 234 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: kick a field, go win the game, and Jim and 235 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh says this. 236 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 9: That play would be burning my mind for till they 237 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 9: throw dirt over top of me. Justin Herbert back to 238 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 9: throw the defender wrapped around him. You know he's able 239 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 9: to just a mighty man it and shake it off 240 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 9: and hit Ladd McConkie. Ladd does his stop fly by 241 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 9: and starts starts getting that necessary yardage, and here comes 242 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 9: Zion Johnson flying ahead of Ladd. I mean, just the 243 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 9: type of type of effort, the type of you know, 244 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 9: the want to you know, the the great desire to win. 245 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 9: He gets that block shielded and you know there's another 246 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 9: twenty another twenty yards. Yeah, I'm gonna remember that play 247 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 9: till they throw dirt over. 248 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: Top of me. 249 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 9: That's how great I feel about feel about that. 250 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: Just Herbert special, special player. And after a two game 251 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: losing streak, they survived from charging. We'll hear more on 252 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: that when Jason Stewart extracts his pound of flesh in 253 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Love and Hate, top of the Hour, it's the Doug 254 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. He joins us 255 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: every week, and uh, there's there's no better kind of 256 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: voice of reason than the guy for the last twelve 257 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: years been the jo manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. 258 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: He's Tim Telesco. 259 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 260 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: He's spent his entire professional life in the Nation Football League, 261 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: and he joins us. Let's let's start with the news 262 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: of the day. Brian Callahan fired as head coach of 263 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans. What's your immediate reaction. 264 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I'm not surprised. 265 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: I mean I was. 266 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 10: Uh. 267 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: I watched the game yesterday with the Raiders, you know, 268 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: because I've got rooting interest in the Raiders. So I 269 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: watched that game from beginning to end. And I've remarked 270 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: to my wife during the game that, you know, it 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 5: was a tough watch. It was just it was an 272 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: uncompetitive game. And I just told her, I'm like, like, 273 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: this is hard for us to watch it. Can you 274 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: imagine if you're a Titan fan. And then when I 275 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 5: saw the closed after the game by Jeffrey Simmons that 276 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: you know that we had a poor week of practice 277 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: or poor Thursday practice. The running was kind of on 278 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: the wall at that point, which is it's disappointing because 279 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: if you watch the game yesterday, you know, it's. 280 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 10: Hard to know, or actually it's not hard to know, 281 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 10: as I. 282 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: Watched yesterday, is there enough talent out there for them 283 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 5: right now? And there just isn't. If you look on 284 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: offense with the have around camboard right now, it's just 285 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: not where it needs to be yet. And Calvin really 286 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: got hurt in the second quarter. They had a lot 287 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: of receivers out there that it almost looked like a 288 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 5: preseason game. So offensive line hasn't played well that that 289 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: was supposed to be a strength of theirs, and so 290 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: there just isn't a lot around them right now. So 291 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: that's that's the hard part. When you make these moves 292 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 5: and you let the head coach go at the GM, 293 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: you got to look at yourself too, like, hey, is 294 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: there enough resources right now for us to win out there? 295 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 5: Right now? I don't see it, but you could see 296 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: the running on the wall after the game yesterday. You 297 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: could kind of feel it coming. Unfortunately, Yeah you could. 298 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, they hired a new GM who 299 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: then hired Callahan. So now I mean, again, as long 300 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: as they don't change gms, that GM is going to 301 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: make the next higher. What's the process really like? 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: Right? 303 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Like, there's all kinds of assumptions on what it's like. 304 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: You've been part of several of these coaching searches with 305 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: the Chargers, when you were with the Raiders, that was 306 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: already kind of done. What's this process like when it 307 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: happens mid season? 308 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: Well, and this is me the mid season. This is 309 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: so early. The interesting thing with the Titans is, you 310 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: know Ran Carfin was their GM last year. He's the 311 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: one who hired Brian Callahan. But with the Titans did 312 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 5: which I really haven't seen this before. When Ran was 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: the GM, they promoted the assistant GM to president so 314 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 5: basically above Ran, and then that president decided to fire 315 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 5: Ran Karflin and hire his own GM. So again that's 316 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 5: not typical that you see in the NFL, but. 317 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 10: I can definitely see with this. 318 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 5: New regime, with the new president and the new GM, 319 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 5: they probably want their own head coach. 320 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 10: So there's not much you can. 321 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 5: Do now other than you're just researching candidates and you've 322 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: got a long time to do it. You're gonna have 323 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: to be careful because most of these candidates are with 324 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: other teams, whether as assistant coaches or head coaches or 325 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 5: at the college level, So a lot of your work 326 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 5: is going to be making some phone calls talking with people, 327 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: but obviously not talking direct to any potential coaches. But 328 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 5: the number one thing is you have to put together 329 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: what do we want in this head coach. There's a 330 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: lot of different ways to go and kind of put 331 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: down a description of Hey, these are the non negotiables 332 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: who want in this head coach, these are the things 333 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: you would like, and then try and fit the candidates 334 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 5: to that. But you've got to castle why it's not 335 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: as possible. There's plenty of time to do their homework 336 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 5: on this, and they'll start interviewing right after the season, 337 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: but this is. 338 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 10: Just they have a long runway to do this. But 339 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 10: the second part. 340 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: Of this is the talent on the team just has 341 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: to be upgraded. They got to have a plan in 342 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: place to help this quarterback on offense and get more 343 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: talent on defense. 344 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the 345 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: voice of Tom Telesco. He joins his Tom, I'm sure 346 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: you've heard what tuus said in the press conference where 347 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: he said, you know, we've guys showing up late for 348 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: players only meetings, calling out some of his teammates, and 349 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: he talked about the leadership. Well, again, how does that 350 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: land on you? I mean, I know how it lands 351 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: on me when you hear it. How does the land. 352 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 5: I would rather that player come to me and talk 353 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 5: about it and keep it in the house before rather 354 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 5: than not put it out publicly. And I think, just 355 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 5: to get some context here, and obviously I'm not in 356 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 5: their building, I'm. 357 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 10: Assuming he wasn't talking about like. 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: A big, wide ranging all player team meeting. I think 359 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: he was probably more talking about the position meetings that 360 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: happen amongst players during off time, because, as you know, 361 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: as a coach, you can't spend twenty four to seven 362 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 5: with your players. 363 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 10: You have other duties to do, You have video to watch, you. 364 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 5: Have coaching meetings to attend. So a lot of times 365 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 5: a position group they may get together post practice just players. 366 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: Could be early in the morning, as it could be. 367 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 10: On a Tuesday's day off, so they meet informally. 368 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: And if this is not happening at the way it 369 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: should be, your players are blowing them off. I would 370 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: rather that player come to see me or the head 371 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 5: coach and then we'll handle it and we'll go through that, 372 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: or the players hands and handle it with the other players. 373 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 5: But I just think when you take it public, you're 374 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: taking a problem and just throwing gasoline on it. And 375 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 5: now it's even a bigger problem. So it's something they 376 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 5: have to handle now in house. But you would have 377 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 5: rather to handle it between the head coach at GM 378 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: and the quarterback right public. 379 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: With this, I agree, And it's interesting, right, like he's 380 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: a guy who has always faulted on the side of 381 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: doing all these little t is kind of extra the 382 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: right way, almost trying to believe be politically correct. Why 383 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: would he why would he do that? Well, I know 384 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: neither of us know. Just hypothesize for a second, Tom, 385 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: why do you think to a tongue of Ailoa whose 386 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: coaches under pressure team is not playing well, why do 387 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: you think he would say that? 388 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 5: This would be my hypothesis looking at it, that. 389 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 10: This has been going on for a really long time. 390 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: He's frustrated, and anytime as a player or as a coach, 391 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: when you come off the field after a tough loss 392 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 5: and you're doing a press conference, within ten minutes of 393 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: the game ending. Sometimes you say some things that you 394 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 5: normally wouldn't say, And to me, I think I probably 395 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 5: went down that route. I just don't think he went 396 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: in that press conference thinking I'm going to talk about 397 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 5: this publicly. 398 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 10: I'm going to try and get. 399 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 5: This thing moving this way. I just don't think he 400 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 5: would handle like that. I just think it was a 401 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: moment of weakness where he said it, it got out 402 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: and are gonna have to deal with it. 403 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: Do you think he can? Can you be a quarterback 404 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: if like the guys don't trust. 405 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 5: Him, Well, first of all, I watching him play. 406 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 10: Watching offense is not the problem. They're moving the ball 407 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 10: pretty well. 408 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 5: They're scoring points. 409 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 10: The problem has been on defense. 410 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 5: They haven't been to stop anybody. So he's been doing 411 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: his part. Hasn't been as good as it was a 412 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 5: couple of years ago. No, when they're putting up eye 413 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: popping numbers, but they can. 414 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 10: They're converting at a high number and third down and they're. 415 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: Scoring points on offense. So right now, defensively, they have 416 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: to find a way to get stops and that's not 417 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 5: happening now. The quarterback is the leader of the football team. 418 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: You're the face the franchise. So there are some things 419 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: you have to take on publicly, but no, he's doing 420 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 5: his part as far as this play is concerned. 421 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the 422 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: voice of Tom Telesco. He's former general manager of both 423 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: the La Chargers and the Las Vegas Raiders. He joins 424 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: us every week year in the program. Okay, Dylan Gabriel 425 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: really struggles, right, I mean, you're playing Pittsburgh on the road, 426 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh defense hasn't been good, but it was good. 427 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: Sacked in six times yesterday, and there seemed to be 428 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: some give up in the Browns. What's that coaching staff, 429 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: what's that front office thinking in terms of what they're 430 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: doing with their quarterback. 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're just in a tough spot right now. That 432 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: that was a very challenging matchup for Dylan Gabriel. I 433 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 5: know the Steelers defense hadn't played the way we expected 434 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 5: them to play earlier in the year, but they have 435 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: a ton of talent. It's starting to come together. 436 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 10: The Pittsburgh defense played very well yesterday. 437 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: And the Browns right now, you know, they're not to 438 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: the point where they're the Titans as far as talent wise, 439 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 5: but they just don't have enough around that quarterback position. 440 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: Yet. 441 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 5: It didn't matter if it was Joe Flacco playing quarterback 442 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: or Dylan Gabriel. There just isn't enough talent around the 443 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 5: team on the quarterback, on the offensive line, and in 444 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 5: some of the skill positions. They're just very young. They 445 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 5: had an awesome draft this year, a big time draft. 446 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 5: These guys are going to be cornerstone player for them, 447 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 5: but it's hard for them all as roopies to play 448 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 5: like veterans this early, so Dylan's in a tough spot. 449 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: Now. 450 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 10: They threw the ball a lot in the game now 451 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 10: they were down. 452 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: So that doesn't contribute it to it. But in reality, 453 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 5: the Browns are still they're still rebuilding, you know, losing 454 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: all the draft picks when they had to make the 455 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 5: quarterback trade and now starting to kind of get back 456 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: a little bit more cap space, a little bit more 457 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 5: assets in the draft. They have a lot of picks 458 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 5: next year, so they're still building. And right now it 459 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: puts Dylan Gabriel. Gabriel in a tough spot just because 460 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't have a ton around them to move the football, 461 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 5: but it's something they're going to have to just figure 462 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 5: out a way for the rest of the season. 463 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 2: Drake May. Again, I'm not going to tell you I've 464 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: watched the game. I did see a bunch of the highlights, 465 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: the numbers three touchdowns and in receptions two sixty one. 466 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: Now he's paying the Saints, who are particularly good. But 467 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: this is on the back of beating Buffalo in Buffalo. 468 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: What's what's what's the GM's I view of Drake May 469 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: as a quarterback. 470 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really starting to take off. It's interesting. In 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 5: the draft, he was a bit of a polarizing player 472 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: among scouts and coaches. There are some scouts and coaches 473 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 5: that loved them, and there are some scouts and coaches 474 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: that didn't think he could play. I thought he'd be 475 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 5: a backup quarterback in the NFL, So I think you 476 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: have to look at all the tools that he has. 477 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 5: I got a chance to see him in the Holiday 478 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 5: Bowl when he was a sophomore. They actually UNC played 479 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: against Oregon in the holley Ball in San Diego, and 480 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: Drake May put out. He had a great game. He 481 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: had a ton of NFL throws. 482 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 10: Then he came back for his junior year, and you. 483 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: Know that people are making some excuses for me. He 484 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 5: didn't have as good a year, wasn't as accurate, didn't 485 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: have the same type of team around him, didn't have 486 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: the same type of NFL talent he had the year before. 487 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: But you can see the size, the athletic ability, the 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: arm strength, the intangibles, the makeup and the preparation skills, 489 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: the accuracy part and decision making had to keep coming along, 490 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 5: and it has as you get into year two. He 491 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 5: just looked so comfortable in the pocket. 492 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 10: He's reading the field really well. 493 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: And really, if you look at the Patriots, they don't 494 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: have a ton of talent yet they're still building like 495 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: some of these other teams that has talked about, they're 496 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: still adding talent. But right now he's playing above where 497 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: he probably should be at this point of his career. 498 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: And then obviously the head coach has really put a 499 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 5: culture in there that that works right now and defense 500 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: is playing well. But it's been really fun to watch 501 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 5: Drake May really take big steps and big strides in 502 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 5: two years. 503 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: Stuck gotlig show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom Telesco 504 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: is our guest, what do you make of the research 505 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: in Kansas City Chiefs? 506 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: You know, the focus is always on Mahomes, which is understandable, 507 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: and the offensive struggle a little bit earlier in the year, 508 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: and you just know what Andy Reid like they're going 509 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: to get a figured out, and it looks looks like 510 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: they have. But to me, the biggest thing is the defense. 511 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 5: The defense has. 512 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 10: Played extremely well. 513 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: The defense is what has been really the strongest part 514 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: of this team the last couple of years. And it 515 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: seems like people don't talk about it, but you know, 516 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 5: they get against the Lions, which is, you know, one 517 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: of the highest scoring teams in the end fell an 518 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 5: excellent team. Both they have both speed and physicality. I 519 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: thought the Casey defense did a tremendous job. They went 520 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 5: on third down, they went on fourth down, they went 521 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 5: toe to toe with the Lions. 522 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: So I'm not. 523 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: Surprised that the Chiefs, the coaching staff Andy Reeve de Spagnolo, 524 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 5: didn't start off the way they had anticipated, and he 525 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 5: make some adjustments, you start fixing some things, and you know, 526 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 5: we're kind of seeing now this Chiefs team looks pretty 527 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: similar to the way the team looked last year when I 528 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: finished the year, So we'll see if they can keep 529 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 5: it up. But I thought the defense just played really, 530 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 5: really well yesterday. 531 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: We haven't talked since Thursday Night Football, but in the 532 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 2: surprising results of the year, the Giants thoroughly beating the 533 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. Is that more about the Giants or about 534 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: the Eagles? 535 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably got to be both. I mean, 536 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: you look at how the Giants played, just the mentality 537 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: and the enthusiasm that Jackson Dart brings that Camp Scatibow 538 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: brings to the of the team. 539 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 10: Now, the Giants still have their issues on the offensive line. 540 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: They still have some issues on offense. I think the 541 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: Giants defense is very strong and the Eagles are just 542 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: going through a tough point right now. They're still trying 543 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: to find their identity, which typically has been to lean 544 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 5: on the run game and then you know a lot 545 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 5: of RPOs. You know, throw it when we have to 546 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 5: and kind of get back to what they are. 547 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 10: They're still going through that transition to having a new coordinator, 548 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 10: so there's there. 549 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 5: Have to be some patients there. But I think we 550 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 5: even talked about this a couple of weeks ago. This 551 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: is where the head coach who has an offensive background, 552 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: is where I need to step in and get things 553 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 5: settled down on offense, getting back to what their identity is, 554 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 5: which is the offensive line running the football and then 555 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 5: like letting hurts, you know, move round a little bit, 556 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: move the pocket. And they have a lot of weapons 557 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 5: on offense between the tight ends and receivers, but just 558 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 5: being able to use it correctly. But I was impressed 559 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: with the Giants with how they played. I think the 560 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: Giants defense is outstanding. I think that's a big part 561 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: of it too. But I still think in the end. 562 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 10: The Eagles are going to figure it out. 563 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: It's just like the Chiefs did. It's just taking them 564 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: a little bit of time. 565 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: Timmy, The Best Man should be a fun night with 566 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: a doubleheader. You got to just about everything we wanted 567 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: to get to and we just appreciate it. Sincerely, thanks 568 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: so much for being our guests. 569 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 5: Awesome thanks having me on. Take care of Doug. 570 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 571 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 572 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: Eh It's the Doug Gottleeb Show on Fox Sports Radio. 573 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: We got love and Hate doub coming at the top 574 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: of the hour. Reminder check out our brand new YouTube channel. 575 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: Just go to the Doug Gottlip Show on YouTube again. 576 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: That's Doug Gotleep Show. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. 577 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: Don't stop there, hit the thumbs up icon. Let me 578 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: know if you agree or disagree with my takes. 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Now they have 586 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game still right, Yes, so that's 587 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: where they'll likely match up with Ohio State likely. 588 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 6: Sure, football still to be played, but. 589 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: A lot of football will still be played. But they 590 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: beat Oregon. They I don't know how good is the league. 591 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 6: I think the league is is okay. I don't know 592 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 6: on how you can have a strong top to bottom 593 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 6: league when you have eighteen schools in it. I think 594 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: you know just six. 595 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: Schools, right, okay? But if you the six best schools, 596 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: six best schools, are they better than the six best 597 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: schools in the SEC? 598 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: Not? Not right now? I gosh if you went if 599 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 6: you went team for team, I think you'd have a showdown. 600 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 6: But you know, like like if you took Ohio State 601 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 6: as the top team, I think they're the best team 602 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 6: in the country, so they'll get better than the SEC's 603 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 6: number one. I think that if you took Indiana and say, 604 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 6: I don't know, put them up against Texas, A and 605 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 6: m or took an Oregon, put them up against A 606 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 6: and m Ole miss or Alabama, I think you could 607 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 6: get a win. I don't think you would. 608 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: Shot none not happening. 609 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 6: Oh here we go SEC bias time because they I'm 610 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 6: a big twelve guy, because they have no the better, because. 611 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: No, the better, the better. And regards to which thing 612 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: happened and beat its. 613 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 6: Actually the problem with they did actually. 614 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: Did beat hold On? They did beat Notre Dame at 615 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. 616 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 6: Correct hold On hold On? 617 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, did happen happened this year? 618 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 9: Okay? 619 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: I would say the differences like Oregan's out of conferences 620 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, like it's not their fault. Okahma State was 621 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: awful this year and they smoked them. You know, obviously 622 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: what Ohio State did? Texas well? Honestly, it's awesome. I 623 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: have no, we have not arguing that. I think the 624 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: Big ten is going to live on the reputation established 625 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: based upon last year, and things changed that quickly. And 626 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: when the SEC has a bit of a down year 627 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: the way they had last year in the southeastern part 628 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: of the United States, what do they do. They don't 629 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: pout about it. They go and dig deep and then 630 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: go out and buy better players. It is so not close. 631 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: How much better the SEC is than everybody else. Ohio 632 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: State is the exception. The rest is much more as much. 633 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: I think I think Oregon's good. I think they're middle 634 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,239 Speaker 2: of the pack SEC. I think Indiana is outstanding really well. 635 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 6: Oregon is Oklahoma and Missouri and the SEC. Yeah, yes, 636 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 6: I don't agree with that. Okay, you think they're better? Yes, 637 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 6: yes I do. There's I Yeah, I just do. 638 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 9: Yeah. 639 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: You do you want to yelsa more to try to 640 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 6: get your point across? Or do you want to play 641 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 6: a game? Okay? All right? 642 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal. 643 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 6: Big deal, A little deal or no deal that Matt 644 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 6: Ruhle said this about the Penn State opening. 645 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: I love Penn State. Met my wife there. 646 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 6: By the way, not a great start if you're a 647 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: Nebraska fan. Okay, just all right, I'm gonna start it over, 648 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: but not great right now. 649 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 11: I love Penn State. Met my wife there. It's Milma 650 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 11: Mater fan. Since I was born. I was born. 651 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: I think probably at a Penn State shirt. 652 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 6: Okay, still not great, but trust me, Doug, We're going 653 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 6: to get to this. 654 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: It's Milma Mater fan since I was born. I was born. 655 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 11: I think probably at a Penn State shirt where I 656 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 11: was born. I love pat Craft and really sad, really 657 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 11: sad to see Coach Franklin go. 658 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 7: Hey, he's like reminiscing about a love that got away. 659 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 7: I loved her, man, I just stop, just stop at 660 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: one of them. Just I'm at my wife there, man, 661 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 7: I fell in love there. Man, he did say this 662 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 7: about Nebraska. 663 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, I absolutely love it here, and I just wanted 664 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 11: I want us to continue to take the steps needed 665 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 11: for us to turn this thing into a beast, and 666 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 11: players all across the country want to come here with 667 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 11: the best facilities. We have, elite fans, and I'm just 668 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 11: looking at the futures. 669 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: How weird is that going to be? When they play 670 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: each other next the last game of the year. 671 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, awkward, big deal, a little deal of 672 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 6: no deal with what he said today. 673 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: No deal means nothing handled it well means nothing. 674 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 6: All right, big deal, little dealer, no deal. At North 675 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 6: Carolina head football coach Bill Belichick called the reports of 676 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: him working on an exit strategy with school officials as 677 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 6: quote categorically false end quote. 678 00:33:54,120 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: Mmmmm. I think it's a little deal. I don't think 679 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: he's leaving after one year. I think it's really hard. 680 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: I think he made and we talked about this in 681 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: the pod. If you're gonna if you're gonna take a 682 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: job and you come from the pros, you almost got 683 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 2: to hire a whole staff to bring their whole team 684 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: with you, because when you have a whole new team, 685 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: it's just it's just too hard in your first year. 686 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting out of Dodge, though, because 687 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anywhere else to go. And I 688 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: do think he'll build it. I do think that they'll 689 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: they'll win more in year two and a lot in 690 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 2: year three. 691 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: Big deal, little deal or no deal. That major League 692 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 6: Baseball in the NFL are having double headers today, huge. 693 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: Deal, because like Baseball had a game last night. I 694 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: would say a very small percentage of people actually knew that. Right, 695 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 2: So now baseball is going to challenge the beast of 696 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: Monday night football with two games. Seems crazy to me, 697 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: but we'll see see what the numbers do, see how 698 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: much people watch. I mean that the Toronto Seattle game 699 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: is going on right now. 700 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 6: I just think it's it's just the it's the extreme 701 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 6: arrogance of the NFL on having this tonight, because I 702 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 6: don't mind that. Listen, there's another one next week as well, 703 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 6: another Monday night doubleheader that we've got. But my goodness, like, 704 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 6: if you wanted to do it leading up to the playoffs, 705 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 6: that's fine, but at least you know the let baseball 706 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 6: have a little bit of a breathing, all right, the 707 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 6: one finally, Doug big deal, little deal or no deal. 708 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 6: That Purdue is ranked number one for the first time 709 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 6: ever in the preseason AP Top twenty five men's college 710 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 6: basketball poll. 711 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: Seems like a big deal. I mean, they've had some 712 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: pretty good players there. Guy named John Wooden was a 713 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer there, right, they had the big doll Robinson. Uh, obviously, 714 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: everybody loves Braden Smith, the senior point guard who does 715 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: feel like he's been there forever. But for Purdue, as 716 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: much as I think Matt Painter might have the best 717 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 2: program in the country preseason, number one is it doesn't 718 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: mean anything, but it does mean something to I think 719 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: to Purdue, it's a tip of the cap to what they. 720 00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 6: Built there, and that is game time. 721 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: Is game time. On The Doug Gottlieb. 722 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: Show, what did you Love from the weekend? What did 723 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: you hate from the weekend, we'll say what we loved, 724 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: what we hated. Next to The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox 725 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: Sports Radio,