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Speaker 1: I am Jason timp Happy Saturday, everybody. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys weekends are off to a good start. That was

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Speaker 1: unpredictable in a lot of ways, because you know, I knew,

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Speaker 1: I knew Lebron would bring it tonight. He always has

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Speaker 1: taken this matchup with Steph Curry personally. However, this overall situation,

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Speaker 1: particularly with talent with the Lakers, is so precarious, and

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Speaker 1: the Warriors were desperate there in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a free fall that I was under the impression that

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the juice to be able to get

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Speaker 1: this done, but they were. And it's there's kind of

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Speaker 1: two different sides to it that we need to look at.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is just how bad the Warriors have been.

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Speaker 1: This is now their fourth consecutive loss. This is the

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Speaker 1: eighth loss they have in their last ten games. They

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Speaker 1: are seemingly coming apart at the seams, which is really

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Speaker 1: strange because they played such good basketball for a while

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Speaker 1: there when Draymond first went down. We're gonna dig into

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Speaker 1: that here in a little bit. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Lebron's big night. We're going to get to some of

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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty with this game, as I promised I would,

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Speaker 1: and then at the end, if you guys stick around,

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Speaker 1: we will talk a little bit about just how good

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Speaker 1: Luka don Che has been of late, and how good

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks are and whether or not they have the

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Speaker 1: potential to rise out of the West this year. But

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with Lebron because I've been very, very

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Speaker 1: just peddling some narrative I'm interested in being authentic and honest,

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Speaker 1: and if I'm going to criticize Lebron, it's because I'm

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Speaker 1: legitimately frustrated with something that he's doing. And if he's

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Speaker 1: of the things that I that I preached about immediately

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Speaker 1: Lakers needed to play the young kids. I talked all

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Speaker 1: but in this game, Lebron just did more. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: I still think Lebron is hurt. I know he showed

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Speaker 1: This scoring performance involved Lebron making six three point shots,

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Speaker 1: interact with Laker fans. You know, I grew up in Tucson, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: he's either gonna go to a step back three or

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go all the way to the rim. When

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Speaker 1: he goes all the way to the rim, he might

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Speaker 1: stop short for a floater, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: it's trying to get all the way to the rim

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Speaker 1: for a layout and then from there he can make

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Speaker 1: reads just like any decent playmaker can. Luca is remarkably versatile.

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Speaker 1: Guys like James Harden. Defenses get so used to seeing

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Speaker 1: what he does that in a seven game series, you

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Speaker 1: give a guy, you give a good defensive wing, hundreds

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Speaker 1: of reps guarding James Harden, and he's doing the exact

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Speaker 1: same thing. He's gonna kind of figure him out a bit.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge part of why James Harden struggles at

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Speaker 1: the end of playoff series is but look at what

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Speaker 1: Luca Don did against the Clippers in his last two

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Speaker 1: playoff series. He seemingly didn't have any issue doing what

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Speaker 1: he wanted to do throughout the entire series. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why is he's way more versatile. Yes, he can

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Speaker 1: go from the left wing or the right wing and

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Speaker 1: isolate and do the stuff that James Harden does, but

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Speaker 1: he also can get by his man and put him

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Speaker 1: in jail, trap them on his backside, take a couple

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Speaker 1: of slow dribbles into the lane and get to a

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Speaker 1: fifty footer. He can do the Chris Paul thing where

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Speaker 1: he gets into the lane and takes a little fall aways.

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Speaker 1: He's got this huge arsenal of little push shots and

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Speaker 1: hook shots and one like fadeaways and turnarounds and all

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Speaker 1: these things that make his offensive attacks so versatile that

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Speaker 1: no defender can figure him out if you have an

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Speaker 1: audible guarding Luca. He's got an audible right back at you,

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Speaker 1: and that keeps him effective as playoff series is dragged on,

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Speaker 1: and that's immensely important. Not to mention he's bigger. He's

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Speaker 1: six ft nine, He's super strong. He's got that size

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Speaker 1: to lean on you. This is something I talked about

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Speaker 1: all the time, that physical tools and how important they

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Speaker 1: are in super physical environments when the refs swallow the whistle,

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Speaker 1: when the defense is really clamped down. Having the ability

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Speaker 1: to use a massive frame to hold somebody off is

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Speaker 1: a massive advantage. It's something that has constantly affected guys

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Speaker 1: like James Harden and Steph Kurt, who's someone that I've

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Speaker 1: talked about with that in the past. That that's the

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Speaker 1: huge difference between those two guys. That's why he looked

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Speaker 1: flat out better than Kawhi Leonard in those two playoffs series.

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Speaker 1: Is And so the question becomes, does this team have

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Speaker 1: the ability to make it out of the West. Does

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Speaker 1: this team have the ability to get to the championship.

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Speaker 1: And that's where that defensive effort becomes so interesting again.

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Speaker 1: Since New Year's Eve a thirty game sample size, the

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Speaker 1: Mavericks are second in defense, and you guys have seen

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Speaker 1: it's not just about personnel. They have athletes that are

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Speaker 1: defending right like Cleaver is doing a pretty good job,

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Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith is doing a pretty good job. You're

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Speaker 1: getting You're getting a decent amount of athleticism. But it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guards. It's a lot of Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of Luca don Hitch, It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Spencer Dinwitty. There's a lot of offensive minded players

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Speaker 1: that are having success in their defensive scheme. And this

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Speaker 1: is where you gotta credit Jason Kidd. They are doing

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Speaker 1: what I have been insisting on for all of these

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Speaker 1: teams for so long. They're doing a ton of switching.

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Speaker 1: They're leaning into modern defensive concepts and how well that

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Speaker 1: they work that is something that has proven to succeed

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Speaker 1: all the way through the latest rounds of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That is the huge difference between this Mavericks team in

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks team that damn near beat those Clippers. Teams

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Speaker 1: that were really, really good, that were much much more talented.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's gonna be something that they can lean

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Speaker 1: on in this postseason. It's gonna be the same Luca.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same offensive versatility, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same things that he brings to the table as

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Speaker 1: an offensive player, but with the defense to hold on.

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Speaker 1: In those Clippers series, Luca utterly controlled the game, but

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming defensive athleticism of the Clippers in the in

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Speaker 1: the tissue paper defense of the Mavericks eventually came back

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Speaker 1: to bite them, and how did it bite them, barely

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Speaker 1: losing in Game seven. So when you give Luca the

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Speaker 1: ability to get stops, he suddenly becomes a much more

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Speaker 1: devastating threat to any of these teams you get in

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Speaker 1: a knockdown, drag out playoff series. With Luca and his

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Speaker 1: team is getting stops, he's that much more dangerous. Then.

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Speaker 1: The other thing you have to look at is fatigue.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily worried about it because with the

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Speaker 1: Clippers in the against the Clippers in those series, he

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Speaker 1: seemed to be strong and fine as the series progressed.

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Speaker 1: But even that's less of a worry anymore because of

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Speaker 1: the Spencer didn Witty acquisition, you know. Haral above. Vulgaris

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Speaker 1: went on the Bill Simmons podcast a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: back and he talked about how in last year's playoff run,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that killed them was the fact

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Speaker 1: that Nick patum was able to completely shut down Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brunson and basically made it so that Luca had to

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Speaker 1: generate everything for them offensively, and so when the shooting

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Speaker 1: started to fade as the series went along, that's when

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Speaker 1: they fell apart offensively. Well, Spencer didn't what he gives

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Speaker 1: you that extra wrinkle there, because again, these are all

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Speaker 1: about matchups. If Lucas being guarded by Paul George or

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Speaker 1: Kauai and Nick patum Is is guarding uh Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 1: then someone else is going to have to guard Spencer

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Speaker 1: Dinwoody and he might have the best matchup. We saw

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Speaker 1: that against the Warriors when Dallas beat them the other night.

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Speaker 1: Spencer dinwood he just gives you that other guy that

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Speaker 1: can create his own shot. It alleviates some pressure from Luca,

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Speaker 1: and it gives you another matchup that you might be

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Speaker 1: able to attack. So to make a long story short,

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Speaker 1: they're not in that top tier there. I don't put

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Speaker 1: them with Billy, I don't put them with Milwaukee. I

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Speaker 1: don't put him with Phoenix, I don't put them with Well.

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Speaker 1: I think those are honestly the only three at this point.

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Speaker 1: But I don't put them at that top tier. But

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Speaker 1: they're in that tier right below. Some things go right,

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Speaker 1: some injuries, you know, affect other teams. Lucas stays healthy

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Speaker 1: and plays well, their defense competes. They absolutely can beat

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Speaker 1: anybody at this point, and I would be terrified to

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Speaker 1: face them if I was any of the teams in

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Speaker 1: the West, especially a team like Golden State. That's that

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Speaker 1: is that has you know, first or second round exit

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Speaker 1: written all over it. Alright, guys, that is all I

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Speaker 1: have for tonight. I appreciate you guys support as always.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend, and

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Speaker 1: I'll see you in a couple of days. Ye