1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his drinks as motherfucking podcast Mason, 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He'sagre's your boy in no 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer, up his 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: DJ e f N. Together they drinking up with some 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast. 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: And yet number one sort for drunk fast drink is 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: New year Z. That's for Drink Champs, Drink up the 9 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: would it good be? Hopefully it should be? This is 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: your point in O R What up is d J 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: e f N? And this hip Drink Camps? Where is he? 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: Row Radio? Big ship? And Uh? This I would like 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: to say, is I guess not? I guess I'm sure 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: quite possibly. Uh this is one of the specialist episodes. 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know specialist. It's not a word, not the 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: way I used it. Um when we die second, deteriorate 17 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: and put it together and take a part and put 18 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: together album album that in a lot of ways, you know, 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here, A lot of people sitting at 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: this table wouldn't be here. This show probably wouldn't exist. 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Um that that legal marijuana that's standing in front you 22 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: might not exist. Uh, you know once of this beautiful 23 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: things that we got going on, whenn't is this for 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: this album? But putting this album together with a lot 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: of people don't know was it was a lot of kinks. 26 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: It was a lot of things behind the scenes, a 27 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: lot of things in front to see means. So when 28 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I thought about it, I said, wow, this we're coming up. 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to invite people, not only the artists, because 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: a lot of times when something is great, people always 31 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: credit the artists and they don't understand that people that's behind, 32 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Who's who's helping booking these sessions, who's calling these producers, 33 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: who's putting it together, who's cutting the check? Pick up 34 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: Edward Holmes, I don't know why I just thought of happen. 35 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Don't know how to think of the counting. I'm a 36 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: foul guy. I don't know why it's just crossing me. 37 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: But but you don't everyone marketing to retail. You don't 38 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: know how good this is until you don't have it. 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: You know. I can't remember working in this record label 40 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: that I'm about the you know, introduce and it was 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: like twelve workers, and I've you know, I remember getting 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: things done. I remember going to label after that with 43 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: three thousand workers, and the market of the New Warkmer 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: booked me to the same town as the retail department, 45 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: and and then the raidar of department book at the 46 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: same time, and I was like, don't you motherfucker's cap 47 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: on the came I realized no, they don't. So being 48 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: on this little boutique label meant something. So in case 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm doing right now, what we're 50 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: doing is we're not only introducing the War Report, people 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: who signed it, to people who put it together, the 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: people who you know was there when the group first 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: got fromm and the people who did it. But we're 54 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna uh show some love to that album. So in 55 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: case you don't know who we talked about right now, 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: to my right, to my left, we got made him 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: motherfucking in the build that makes me, Greg Taylor, Greg Taylor, 58 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: made him good, damn it, uh Martin motherfucking more. We 59 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: got the motherfucking guy that put it all together and 60 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: made it all happen, Neil motherfucker. Then we got Geno 61 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Sims I think was like the intern. He was like 62 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: he was like the real Nick got the front desks 63 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and ship. You know, even from that said the big one, 64 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and then from that and then even before me and 65 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Poem actually got together, this was one guy who knew 66 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Capone and there was one guy who knew Norry and 67 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: on on that level. Put it all together. In case 68 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: you don't know, we talk about talking about tragedy, motherfucker's 69 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: and the last but not least God did that. We 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: shared a lot of marijuana and jail and we smoked 71 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Bible papers together. I'm not proud of this. It's just 72 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: something that's happened. And now we are home together. I 73 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: just had a daughter graduate college who well you know 74 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So case you don't know Capone and 75 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: Noriega not Compone, I'm gonna obviously start with you because 76 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: this has been these famous stories of how we met 77 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: and what we met because really, really what what was 78 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: our first plans when we first met each other in jail? Well, 79 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: I really first plans was basketball? Like it was it was. 80 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: It was basically like, Yo, how can I get you 81 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: to my side of my jail to play basketball with me? 82 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: Because you're nice, but your side of the jail got 83 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: no players, but y'all want the championship because you was 84 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: on the team. I pick up Sherman the world like 85 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: it was. It was intricate, possible because he was like 86 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: your mimi. He was like your mommi because yeah, yeah, 87 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: let's give it up. Alo was my novel. It wasn't 88 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: for then too. We won't be together. And Billy Wade 89 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: like church, church, church church when we met at church, 90 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: and it was like all that was our past time. 91 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: But we had to have a common ground where we 92 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: could meet and that was the basketball call. So yes, 93 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: side of the jail having to play my side of 94 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the jail. We had Kurt James who played with Magic Johnson. 95 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: By the way, Kirk James was dopey, went Toto University 96 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: of Michigan, went to the NBA, blew his knee out. 97 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: It became correction office. So if that's what you want 98 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: to call it. Hello, You guys didn't know each other 99 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: before jail. This is this is where the first time. 100 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: But I knew of him because the school that he 101 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: got kicked out of, I got kicked out. I went 102 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: to do that. It's terrible, but he got kicked out. 103 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: I think you got kicked out, graduated graduate. When he 104 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: left there, I went to one. And that's like the 105 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: first time my encountered with Queen's Ridge period because although 106 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't Queen's Bridge, it was bliss. Yeah. So that's 107 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: a seven train, seven train and then you actually see 108 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: you guys projects. But I really didn't know I had. 109 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: I had met somebody name l J. Yes, okay, so 110 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: he was finishing. But like it's basically like, you know, 111 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: what's crazy is that when you look at it, like, 112 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, our age, we've grown now and all that. 113 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: But we was like neck and neck of life high school, 114 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: the junior high school I went to, he went to 115 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: after I graduate. The jail that I went to he 116 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: went to after I left. I want to know. So 117 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: we was writing neck and neck or meeting each other, 118 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: but we didn't meet to Hall of Valley. We didn't 119 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: get to that level. And then it was straight basketball. 120 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: We never talked about music. It was straight basketball. And 121 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: then I got him pulled to the college dome. He 122 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: trying trying to floor, you know, but you know, I 123 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: got my brother pulled to my house and shout out 124 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to shot is out there right now. He was with 125 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: us there's a lot of people that I met in 126 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: the fifteen six t old age bracket that we're still together. 127 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Now that's a but this is one of the things 128 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: that made it. One of the brothers that made a difference. 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we got to basketball, and then the 130 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: first time we met, he was like, you don't play 131 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: no deal on me. I don't play no deal on you. 132 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: We had had from then, you know, we got we 133 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: got him pulled to my house, shout out to pans. 134 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. He got 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: he got a pull to the crib. And then from 136 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: there was history. We never talked, music, was basketball, selling drugs. 137 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: It was it. And that became my best friend in 138 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: jail besides what is exactly but but okay, now coming home, No, no, 139 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: that that's that's in jail. But coming home now we 140 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: spend all time now coming home. You and compone knew 141 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: each other prior to seeing each other upstate, Because when 142 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: did y'all first seeing each other? Didn y'll see each 143 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: other in Yorktown? Or where was y'all like, y'all, Now, 144 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't short. I was doing one thing, 145 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: and then he was in New York doing another and 146 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: my man, Wonderful, Wonderful hooked us up together. I came 147 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: to the studio and Tragic, Yeah, wonder formula, no no 148 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: nomber league from Southside. Okay, okay, but he was like trash. 149 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: It was like, you know what I'm not, I'm not 150 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: really feeling that ship. Let's get the funk out of here. 151 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: And we left by the way. Jam Mass and J 152 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: was there, studio Jams and J Studio. We boog east 153 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: in peace, rest in piece. We boogied on very carefully, 154 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: and we became at that point because as I remember, y'all, 155 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: y'all unless your daughter you walked in, that's my wife 156 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: by because I was like, it was I know you, 157 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and these guys can attest to 158 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: me because y'all was like the horny month on b 159 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: First of all, no question, that's you know, I don't 160 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: investigative reporter, right my lady I'm talking to but you know, yeah, 161 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: we're not gonna let you slide like you wasn't. You 162 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: didn't have to. Ye had the pocket. I used to 163 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: hang out with book Rock. I had the pocket else, yes, 164 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: nor know what I'm saying is so what was what 165 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: was initially? Yeah, just be clear because just because you're 166 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: from Queen's Bridge don't mean you get along. That's true, 167 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you from an enemy 168 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: block almost right, you're from Vernon, y'all, from an enemy 169 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: block according to his block, and you from an enemy 170 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: block according to your block. M you're talking about the ship? 171 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: What do you want to be great outside? But so 172 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying this y'all, y'all the time, y'all link up? 173 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: How does this? It was like, it was like this 174 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: man um okay, I think it was wonderful. He's like, Yo, 175 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: you don't know my man, you know? And I was like, 176 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: now who that good one? So he was now who that? 177 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, that's ky. I was like, because 178 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds a little a little younger than me. 179 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, it's like a rose, sir, than anybody 180 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: else wants from Champagne. What do you guys? You know 181 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: you're like some champagne? Would you what would you like? 182 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: You know? I heard you ain't drinking a long time today. 183 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: There was four years ago, so so but I guess 184 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I think you stood me. I guess what was what 185 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: was it like, Um, wasn't the fact that you know 186 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, it was the queen's weird thing 187 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: or was it not? It was just we vibed like 188 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: we vibed in Um that was a queen'st thing. Because 189 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: if I don't know trash like I know trash queens Bridge, 190 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: that I won't have went down. It wasn't a queensbridt 191 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: thing for me. It was because I didn't know him. 192 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: I knew a story of him. So when the story 193 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: got put from me, I was like, oh, that's saying 194 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: that's the number man. I mean at the time, whatever 195 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: piece of the big, big, big big b the o G. 196 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Can't you do love him? Um? Yeah? So I was like, oh, 197 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I heard that story, that's what. Yeah. So I was like, 198 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I heard that story. I remember the story, and I'm 199 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: shooting the police. I didn't say that, but I just 200 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: remember the story. I remember a specific story and this 201 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: story that story. So when I heard that story, I 202 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: was like, oh, wre that Sun. I'm looking at him 203 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: like you know, look, I mean he looked all you know, 204 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: and me and him clicked up and m man just 205 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: clicked up. Were is separable since then? And um, there's 206 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: been a lot going on since then. Okay, so now boom, 207 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,239 Speaker 1: moving on to you. Now, how do you in tragedy 208 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: even link up? Did you have a relationship or was 209 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: that Martin Moore? Well, I actually knew Trash because you know, 210 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: I promoted you know, his records because until round the 211 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: little music that's been round the glow was really popping, 212 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: and you were signed. It was tough. Yeah, heaven, you know. So, 213 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: so he had a deal. So we met and I 214 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: was promoting and stuff. Then Martin brought the guys and 215 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: he said, you know Trash. Yeah, he brought the guys in, 216 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: brought you guys in. You know what I'm saying. You 217 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: guys had a relationship prior to that, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 218 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: already been formed or not yet, just around the globe, 219 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: round the globe, and Martin originally started working around the 220 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: globe music. It was radio promotion. He was not a 221 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: good plot listening to the old tag thing and when 222 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: you cool, I mean classic, classic, classic, and what was 223 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: that college radio at the time. That's interesting, man, that's 224 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: what so. So okay, so Martin would be my radio 225 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: promoter and someone would come in and be ready to 226 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, pay, you know, pay us to promote director 227 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Martin be like, it's okay, It's like at least he'sn't 228 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna work very tough. I said, I want to start 229 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: up label, and when I do, I want to bring 230 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: you in on that side. And you know, kicking strain. 231 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: So Marty and I go back along. He has a 232 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: tough Clen't you tell me my girls don't calm down? Good? 233 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm gonna try to go too fast 234 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to go back to that. So okay, I'm doing understand Now, 235 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: how about you and Martin? Did you know him? I've 236 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: seen Martin around, like, you know, we're in the same 237 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of we're in the same arena sort of speak. 238 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: So I would see Martin around, but you know, Mark 239 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: is quiet, and then I wasn't really too much of 240 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: a social person in that way if I know you, 241 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: but I definitely remember seeing him, and so when it 242 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: made it easier to like kind of paulay a meeting 243 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: with him and connect with him, you know what I'm saying, 244 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: because he was always always smooth and quiet. But it 245 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: was it was good motion for us to line up 246 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: and me to come through and play the ship for him, 247 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: and when I played it for him, he was feeling it, 248 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, definitely feeling Okay. Now I made 249 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: him same question almost did you have a relationship with Neil? 250 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: How did how did this this happen? I meant Neil 251 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: to Martin? Okay, So me and Martin did UH and 252 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Yu together. I used to listen to like you was 253 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: in the cage radio. Now I noticed you say, Yeah, 254 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: I STI listened to like all like the underground radio shows. 255 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: And I used to listen to him when I was 256 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: in high school. So when I got into n y U, 257 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I gave a tape and I said, Yo, you need 258 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: a d J. I need to DJ. He was like, oh, world, 259 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: all right, listen to t is that you kind of right? 260 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: And then he brought me on and that we did 261 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the show together and I didn't want you okay, And 262 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: then I brought him on. He prought me on twice. Now, 263 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: how did you get him just involved with this? Well, 264 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: it's crazy because it was it was actually two ways, right, Okay. 265 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: So I used to hustle with a guy by the 266 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: name of el nessl Nest my man. Yes, who's friends 267 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: with Jula? Yeah, yeah, you know from my hood. But 268 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: me and Alice the hustle together and once to nine 269 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, I'm doing my thing in 270 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: radio boom boom, you know. And I was like, yeah, 271 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get into music, but I want work 272 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. So he was like, yo, you come up, 273 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: just you know, come up and figure out the day 274 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: to come up. So I was like, all right, cool. 275 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: So then when I went up, I started in and 276 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: I went into Kylin Williams. I know Colin Williams through 277 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Pete Rock and I was cool with Pete and his 278 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: brother grab from when I used to try to get 279 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, wrap and get into music because used to rap. Yeah, 280 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I heard about that. It was good. It was it 281 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: was to cowing. That was cowing the m messing and 282 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: you know wims and started off with that and you know, 283 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: answer the phones ordering you tuna, milks and all that. 284 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Pluck you pluck you, suck you luck. You know the 285 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: guy who did Animal Doug Onna pluck you. He owns 286 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: pluck you right now. Yeah, the guy who did it, 287 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: the guy did this kid you. Oh yeah, he brought 288 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: you and he was just working at at the time. No, 289 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: this skit he's figuring out. He figured out he was 290 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: the first, like vibral not being environed. We got to 291 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: you just get helped him buying. Yes, George, that's the 292 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: real right. So because I look at Rockefeller, right, and 293 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: you got all these beautiful stories, you say, all right, cool, 294 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: but this all comes from this one tree. When you 295 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: got you know, airing over here and all this, and 296 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: I look at that penalty, I said, wow, we got 297 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: we had a lot of great people who work that penalty. 298 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Did y'all know that this little boutique label was the 299 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: magical label? Did you know that? Now? Well, I knew 300 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: we were doing some special stuff and and I just 301 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, you just felt the vibe. So yeah, I 302 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: knew something special was happening. Uh Did I know it 303 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: would be sitting here twenty five years? Uh? No? Who 304 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: could have imagined that drinking drink one rose rose or 305 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: I'm drinking the goal, give the goal, given the goal, 306 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Keep drinking the rose Rose tras you want to get 307 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: some rolls? You know all of this getting the rolls. 308 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Eg she didn't want TV. We're gonna make I don't 309 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: know he wants the rose the rose with you? Brother? 310 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: Come on, let's go. You can probably do one. It's okay, 311 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: it's okay, whatever whatever you want. Okay, So foom, Because 312 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: wasn't the label before you moved on? What's in it 313 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: on twenty five street? That first street? Yeah, that's that's 314 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: where street all the flowers used to be outside a 315 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of comment, Oh it's real, it's very really tracks 316 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: kind of going back like some time to say one thing. 317 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: So penalty started, and you know, you know really with 318 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: round the Blow, it was really popping in those days. 319 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: So Martin was actually the first person I brought over 320 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: to the penalty. So round the Blow it was on 321 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight Street. And then when penalty started popping, then 322 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: I started moving the people from around the globe to 323 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: the label. But you know, twenty street was was great 324 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: to us. And then we st far on and that 325 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: was next to job. That's right down to the factory studios, 326 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: down the plot Form VI, which was of course the 327 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: street which was up the block, and of course the 328 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: street from No but wasn't we had the rooftop. Right 329 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: at the rooftop, we had the roof. Let me see 330 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: you out there all the time. We didn't have no 331 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: place to hang out. We knew we could go to 332 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: twenty Street on the roof, hang out the plug A 333 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: freedom there, like you said, it was a freedom there. 334 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the important things about 335 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: a label light Penalty, because when you have a boutique label, 336 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: it's not generic. There's not people afraid to take chances 337 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: sometimes lessons more like you said earlier, the ten people there, 338 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: three thousand people over there, but the three thousand people 339 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: couldn't get it right because the ten were focused and 340 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: they were willing to take chances. And that's what games 341 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: labels like that. And I gotta commend you know, Neil 342 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: vaughtin Mayhem, Bubba Gino. That's what gave labels like that 343 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: a strength because they weren't afraid to take chances. Other 344 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: labels like that assisted only other labels that that assisted 345 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: like that def Jam did later started, but I would 346 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: give it to Loud. Yeah. Actually, Steve, Steve knew how 347 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: to what's the fractionally la Yes, yes, yes, but yes, yes, yes, raucus. 348 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: But the Penalty already have its Tommy Boy distribution when 349 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: you started. Yeah, I mean I started, and then I 350 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: did the deal with Tom Hillman Tommy Boy. I had 351 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: another Lay. But before that Assault Records at the DFC 352 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: that was part of Atlantic. That's right. So and then 353 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I didn't make money from it, and I spent all 354 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: my own money promoting and I said, oh, this doesn't work. 355 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Can I went. I went to to you know, Atlantic, 356 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: and said, hey, let's change the deal. It's like, nah, 357 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: we're good. So that's when I did the deal. I 358 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: started another label because they owned the name I was 359 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: in business with him, I started Penalty. And since since 360 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: I was promoting a lot of the Tommy Boy records 361 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: back then, it just kind of made sense. So boom, 362 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: get to it. We established everyone knows each other. That 363 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: is that is good about Okay, now crazy, No, I want. 364 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I wanted This is why I wanted to start Trash. 365 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: And I actually wanted to access in front of the 366 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: trash just because even when I were announcing that I 367 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: was signing with Trag, right, Trag had a certain repetition, Right, 368 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: he had a certain like yo, it was certain things 369 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: that came with doing business with Trad. Did that was 370 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: that ever reflected on y'all? Like when you heard about 371 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: the group, did you did you hear about the group 372 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: or did you hear about you? Know, like things that 373 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: happened was was attached to track? Not really. I I 374 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: really love Trash, so I had a relationship and so 375 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know that didn't That wasn't a 376 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: factor at all, you know, how about you? Yeah? Not 377 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: for me, it didn't really it wasn't a factor. I mean, 378 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't really like relevant to be signed. It was 379 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: just like the music was there. It was like, all right, 380 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: that's it. It wasn't even his business. Antics wasn't even 381 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: a factory. And didn't you write gard because for the 382 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: most part, you're you're knowing more than the label. You 383 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There already a legend. What made 384 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you say? I'm sorry? But the thing about it is 385 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: that like Trash had a vision and what I liked 386 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: when he came, he laid it out and I was sold. 387 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, now I get it. I heard 388 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: the music. But then when he came and laid it 389 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: out and laid out the vision, I was like, okay, 390 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: this is this is we could work with this. Because 391 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: hold up, I think that you guys are jumping a 392 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: little bit because we are how do you how do 393 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: you get to the to the group to start with, Like, 394 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: how do you say these two sounds good together? This 395 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: is a group? No, no, okay, I would get to 396 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: that part, but this is the part I was trying 397 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: to get to what DRAS was the same way. It 398 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: was a chance and a risk for Penalty to kind 399 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: of fun with a new uh group. It was also 400 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: a risk for tras reputation to funk with a new 401 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: group too. You understand I'm saying. So what I'm trying 402 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: to ascuve me a new label too. So what I'm 403 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: trying to say is what made you say that? You 404 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: know what? Because at the time there were other labels 405 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: that existed like that, but there was the Terrificans or whatever. 406 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: There wasn't no other base penalty on. I didn't. I didn't. 407 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I didn't. I appreciate you saying that too, but you 408 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: know it's wow. I didn't. Let I look at everything 409 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: like music. Sometimes that's to my default because life is life, 410 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I don't like when 411 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: I choose to beat. I don't choose to beat. I 412 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: let to beat choose me. So I don't necessarily go 413 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: and be like what it was is I let the 414 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: ship talk to me. I'm going over here, going there. 415 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm seeing how different labels work. I'm coming off a 416 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: situation with Molly don't dispect love Molly, but it was 417 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a type of situation that taught me a lot the hallway. 418 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Three ways the best lessons 419 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: to pay lesson you can learn, you know, by way 420 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: of time and money and you know whatever and all 421 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: the above. So it's like going through that whole chamber 422 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: with Molly. I was like, Yo, you know, I want 423 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: to do I want to do things how I see it, 424 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: how how music should be and how the artists should be. 425 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: I didn't fully have it down. I kind of went along, 426 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, learn as I went along too a lot 427 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and then learn later after it's done, so to speak. 428 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: So but I let it talk to me, and I'm 429 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: going around two different labels. But I'm I'm kind of 430 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you know how you never 431 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: so I'm going around, but I'm really not asking what 432 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I really want. I'm kind of just feeling people out 433 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: because I feel like by the time I get to 434 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: what I want, I don't know how to ask for it. 435 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, stand I'm saying, you get me. So I'm 436 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: going around and I'm like, alright, cool, you know, and 437 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: it's just before you even got involved to picture right 438 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: that that's that's the same thing we was trying to keep. 439 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go out ready, and we all comes. 440 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm basically working with him. Describe if you're gonna let's 441 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: come out. Okay, Um, I gotta take it from I 442 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: come home, come on from Yeah, go to Queen's Bridge. 443 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: It tell me homies on the rhynd who ya't know 444 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: that ship? That's why they went to I got you. 445 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: So after that I find out they got a record 446 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: the Faith Moving Okay, okay, listen, I'll went you ask 447 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: you kind of jump out. You got to realize Attle, 448 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: That's how it looked for me. But but this is 449 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: before you even okay, he had he didn't have a 450 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: record deal, right. What it was is we had like 451 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: a bullshit demo deal. We had demo deal. We have believers, Yeah, 452 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: we have believe yeah, Paul, Yeah, so we dog faith 453 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: faith you know what I mean? Around at that time 454 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: wasn't chall Sup, He wasn't chall Super. He wasn't directly 455 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: attached to us like faith Tim Dog. Tim took it 456 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: upon himself to say, I'm wonderful, but but Tim Dog's 457 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: thinking with p Tim Dogg too, but moving on him, 458 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: good dude, because he didn't say, look, I can't give 459 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: you a deal. He didn't say I don't want to 460 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: give you a deal. He said, I can't bring you 461 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: over here your type of music. But I see what 462 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: you're doing, so I'm giving And it wasn't demo deal. 463 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna give you a demo deal. Basically, 464 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: you know that your motherfucker lies. The motherfucker keep something 465 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: right on that. I'm gonna track hold on continual. I 466 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: gotta get that book. I'm not get that new book 467 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: you reading. So anyway anyway, so boy, we do um 468 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: we go and do um we go and do a 469 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: get the cream. We're gonna do get the cream right, 470 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: So um mine your fucking demo deals like it's a 471 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: stack and studio it's okay, um so boom, I'm I'm 472 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: working with. I had told I boy, I had told 473 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: a Beat Machine n PC and how you gonna get 474 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: you wasn't giving them none of your star And then 475 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: he had to try money. Somebody gotta pay for this. 476 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: I always shoot back, baby, so so, yeah, so we 477 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: were working with Ayatola. But this dude, like, you know, respectfully, 478 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: he's in and out. He's in and out. You know, 479 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: he's sometime he comes through, sometimes he doesn't. Ever some 480 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: street ship, he's always there, you know, might be studient, 481 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: he might be like, yo, I gotta go run out 482 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: of the town, or even I gotta go do some 483 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: other things, you know whatever. So and I'm getting that 484 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: vibe that because at the time he's nice to me, 485 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: he's still greatus. But by the time he's nice and 486 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what are you going bro? So he's 487 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: like yo, um you know, that's when he brings you up. 488 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So I'm like, Yo, that wasn't the fucking plan, son, 489 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And so now I'm like, man, 490 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: so it kind of it kind of throws me off 491 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: for a little second because it was like, you know, 492 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: just sneaking put it on, yeah, because you're not having it, 493 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: like you hate doing your curveball through me a curveball, 494 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: so especially a nigger, you don't know. Yeah, this was 495 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: just this to just man. To me, it gets interested 496 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: because I'm like, you know, you're not yeah, man, Like 497 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: what funk that dude? And did did he tell you 498 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: what I was from that time? Okay, I co continue 499 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: because I didn't even Soon as he was saying that, 500 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I was like, we might you ain't going on. We 501 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: might be in a crab doing whatever we're doing. He's like, yo, black, 502 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't ask nothing. I kind of wanted to forget 503 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: about it, so I'm not gonna feed this ship. But 504 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: I keep, you know, every now and then I thought them, like, yo, 505 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: y'all go back and do some more songs. He's like, yo, 506 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: but my maid, my man, my man. And I'm like, alright. 507 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: So he's like, yo, I don't know. Time just flew 508 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, my man's coming home with me. 509 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking, man, you're telling me about Like yeah, 510 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, she's a fun nigger, you know that, so 511 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: fun that so whore. We go ahead the train station 512 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: and it's that I met when he was probably like 513 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: tanning some ship because trying to save a little brother. 514 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: And you know, at the time, I was in a 515 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: different school of thought. No saying I got I got 516 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: the white on. You know, I'm saying that Jollo bed 517 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: the koufy, you know what I'm saying. She's like, I 518 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: go I go, actually go to his crib because she's like, yeah, 519 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: I see you always look like a positive Go talk 520 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: to my brother like you're reminded me that DMS kit. 521 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: He's like you, I know you you need to go 522 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: to gloss. It was just like your eyes over, you 523 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: need to find yourself. So we're not having that kids 524 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: as funny as hell. So long story logo, I go 525 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: to the crib means the bell this thinking comes out 526 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: on the Norway right or the mag and the're like, hey, 527 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: let's she's just brotherfucker Like. So when I go on 528 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: to train station, I'm like, oh, ship this dude. And 529 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just it was no more 530 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: question just but now it's like I gotta see what 531 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: he got. It wasn't like I'm denini ni no more. 532 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: It was like I say, he's kind of he's fucked up. 533 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We'll get it long so 534 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: we this a little time goes by, we're building, kicking it, 535 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: throwing back back and forth. Ideas were going the studio. 536 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: I I grabbed Jay Supreme for Queen's Bridge, who happened 537 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: to produce Damn That every big dude from Queen's Bridge's 538 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: first demo. That was Hot Day's little guy or No, 539 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that partner right so so so um Yeah, 540 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Jay supreme beautiful dude. Still working him to this day. 541 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: We're actually working on the project. But I bron we 542 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: got to beat first. That's when tape are still rocking. 543 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: We got to beat first. Well happened million talking so 544 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: so so um? Which is I think it was a 545 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: great dope song. I don't even remember why we didn't 546 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: put on the album What happened money that you gotta 547 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: figure that realized also too, that wasn't part of them. 548 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that was wasn't No, it wasn't. But I'm gonna 549 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: tell you what happened Mill was one of my favorite 550 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: sessions that you could pick up right, But what was 551 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: this isative joint? Yes, wait a minute, let me let 552 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: me do the solo that I come to your record. 553 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: He jumps on my record. I was working on a 554 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: whole another record with butt naked tim go yeah, and 555 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: he pulls up to the session. Yeah, and Jason Frage 556 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: as music. This beats in the session and then I'm 557 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: like my brother said, I forget all my souls. We 558 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: was actually trying to get you on the soundtrack. The soundtrack. 559 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: I forgot the soundtrack, but at the of the day 560 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: I was doing a soundtrack reak. It didn't slam one 561 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, but Solund pulled up and it was 562 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: like my niggas hit the funny ship out of everything that. 563 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: I still never heard him around either. I never on God, 564 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: you never rhymed together. Yeah when you heard me, I'm saying. 565 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is like when you wrong 566 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: on like like that in the studio, studio time right now, 567 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: you're right. I still don't know what slum could do. 568 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm notching form, but I don't know if that ship 569 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: was understand me was gonna resonate to the boom, y'all vouching, vouching, vouching, 570 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: and then me, I'm sip of five and thousand times 571 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: every rhyme I got here. I don't. I don't got 572 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: the rhymes down here. I got it all here. So 573 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm not only sticking it from from from from head, 574 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: but I'm sticking it from head ahead. The old ship 575 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: was was that sound that session? My nigger was SI, 576 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't like we see we got I wanted you 577 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: to finish. He was saying, I fall back and move 578 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: forward blood. So so here, so now we in power play, 579 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: we get Jay Jason Prima come through. And this is 580 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: my first time really hearing Nory like because you know what, 581 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: like he said, we were I heard him when we 582 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: be in a crib and we just be playing beets 583 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: and you know, he spent some ship, but I didn't. 584 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't put him together right away in my mind. 585 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't grasp it, you know what I'm saying. Like, 586 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: So now we're in the studio, it's different, and now 587 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: I need to see if he understands structure. Now I 588 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: need to see if you know what I'm saying. But 589 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: he was just wow, like his ship was all over 590 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: the place, but it was raw and you know it's 591 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: no it's old, like he said, you know, um whatever 592 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: the words you used, UMZ got tricks. We get back 593 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: to that. But I like that, you know what I'm 594 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: saying because to me, not because it's wild or whatever, 595 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: because to me, like at that time, I'm very passionate 596 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: about music. You know what I'm saying, And to me, 597 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: that comes from a real place that I relate to 598 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so as I'm listening, 599 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shoot, but I'm like, yo, this ship 600 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: his his voice sounds bugged to me. It kind of 601 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: reminded me of like when Sham was here and he 602 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: said when him and Marlin listened to rock Himsel, and 603 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: it was like, Yo, what it's so over there that 604 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: it's like because poone is nice, but Poe has that 605 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge vein in them. He has that vein. But 606 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Norri came from the place that he couldn't take what 607 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: he has from you know what I'm saying, it's different. 608 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: So it's like more or less he the fallstab and 609 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: you know, for for contrary to what belief is out there. 610 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: I never wrote no rhymes phone. I helped him with 611 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: his rhymes. I never wrote his rhymes, but help with 612 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, don't understanding that he didn't always he 613 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: always get like listen, I don't want you to know 614 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: what it was. So again I'd like to know what 615 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: his doors like is good. I'm not afraid. I gotta 616 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: tell listen, I gotta tell the truth. But when I 617 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: say help, I mean it in a respectful sense. Listen, 618 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: stop playing man, I know he'd listen. It's my brother, 619 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: Well listen, because you know what it's because of a 620 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: lot of like a lot of ship came up and 621 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, been around us, surrounding us. Ship surrounds me too. 622 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: That didn't say he happen. But I don't care about that. 623 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: I care about my brothers and my brothers seeing where 624 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm coming from, and I gotta see where they come from. 625 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: That's and that's reality. All that outside ship I don't 626 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: care about. So I want to make clarity now because 627 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: this is something I brung up. You didn't bring it up, 628 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: but I want to bring it up now. Has to 629 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: say when I helped you, I helped to a song 630 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: structures like or put here, that's how you can stuck 631 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: up up or like blood money when that was my 632 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: first ball, my uh my verse saying you know what, 633 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: that should be the hook. So now when I say that, yeah, 634 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: but that's the truth, whether you accept it or not, 635 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: it's the truth that I'm just speaking the truth. You 636 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: don't have to keep doing that. You know what you know, 637 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: because listen, I'm saying that, but I'm saying that it 638 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: can't be sad no more. Because when I'm talking about 639 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: my people's or what we did. It's like I'm not 640 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: speaking it to to I'm not speaking it for the outside. 641 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying I do. But but but you 642 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: gotta realize how people how people take it. And you're right, 643 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: and you're right because you gotta realize. When we looked 644 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: at the Worried Poor album, you look at the credits, 645 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: it says sweet public and sweet well sweet says you 646 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: know Percy Chapman. People all the back like wait a minute, 647 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you see what's going on. This is 648 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: how this is. That's how that's how Kane was credited 649 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: on busines Mark records. This is how such such people's 650 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: credits so automatically. That's how people took that, especially when 651 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: it's on records that you wear it on. You know, 652 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: What's what I'm saying, So like I can see that 653 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: they say it like all right, cool parole violators, that's 654 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: nory trash and and have it. So so we gotta 655 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: we gotta realize it's me personally. When we went through 656 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: our discrepancies and he was like, yo, you know how 657 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: the value said that. That's how what people did. People 658 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: came in and and and and that's how they that's 659 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: how they put it together, and that Yeah, what's tough 660 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: because I didn't know how to go to every interview 661 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: and be like what Nigga didn't and didn't and didn't 662 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: and never and not only that, Let's just be clear. 663 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, our e album the next year was more 664 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: successful than the war reports. So if I was to say, well, 665 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: if that's happened, what the fund wo happened went in 666 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: our eat what, it will automatically make it look like 667 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on my partner and jail. So I literally 668 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: for comorable for a minute, because it would be like 669 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the Warrior for like a totally different vein. 670 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: Though nobody's gotta realize this is my life that I'm living. 671 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you what I was receiving from 672 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: my end when I was walking and after you know, 673 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: blood type had dropped to things like that, you know 674 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm glad what you said, um 675 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I'm glad. I'm good. I'm glad. It's 676 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: very it's very personal to me. It's very personal to 677 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 1: be because because of that fact that it'd because I 678 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: didn't understand publishing at the time, and when people brow 679 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: that up to me, well why his name is on 680 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: the publishing head? Why his name? And then who the 681 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: sweets twelbo two? You know what I'm saying that, So 682 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm like that they still thinking some other guy sweet 683 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: twelbow twy, it wasn't crack. And that's what I was like. 684 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: And that's something like that's some of them. That's I 685 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: want to say this and and and and um and 686 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: respected that right. That's part of the reason why when 687 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: you wanted out to deal, I didn't want nothing. You 688 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I didn't want nothing. Him and 689 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: the lawyer at the time, Reggiald say, who came on 690 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: your show and live keep it green? Though, I'm gonna 691 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: keep it green because I'm in my skin so infactual, 692 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. Like, that's why when 693 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: when it was time for I still part, I didn't. 694 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't want to do that because honestly, 695 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: like I said, I was still learning a lot as 696 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: I went along. So and I know that now, you know, 697 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: but it's still a little you know, it's still a 698 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: little same ship. I see, I see the speak at all. 699 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm good, right, good? But that but I need you 700 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: to go with me with that. Yeah, I don't know 701 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: you're good. I'm great, I'm great. Yeah, we need I 702 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: need you to be good with me today. I don't agree. 703 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm change. No, but that's like as a person. You know, 704 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: um and what I'm saying. People said that about him 705 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: too because of the publishing there. Yeah, that was the 706 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: only reason. Why do you go to it? Because I 707 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: was like, here't haveing this record? Ship? He got gaze 708 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was speaking to him. He's like, I'm 709 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: speaking to him. You must have been rolling with possession 710 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: was a super Yeah? Did that film? Is that? I'm 711 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: coming in on your im telling you and be like, yo, 712 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: let's make a ship. What about that time went to 713 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: the show? You spit on the car, disrespectful y'all. We 714 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: go to go, y'all go to see what I'll be. 715 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: I can't bring motherfucking who was it real? And who 716 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: is it? Who is it? Stuff? Stuff? You did? Get 717 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: out of here? I said this, thinking crazy, he get 718 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: the I don't remember none of that. I tell you 719 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: who We're not sting ship. You should will make us 720 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: brothers right now. If it wasn't for them days. We 721 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have these days like the misunderstanding days, them days 722 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: where it was left Frank killed be the days was 723 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: like Paul them days made it's just called warrant this 724 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: thick still on the car. Then he just get out 725 00:43:52,719 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: of left friend and we was on the highwackets later 726 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: nigger straight up. When we as an NC like that, 727 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: we wished my nigga was in. But then you know, 728 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: it was a whole bunch of ship that made us 729 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: us that was going on. Okay, I mean jail no 730 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: funk that. Yeah, two niggers put me in the most 731 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: long position because I gotta call him and listen to 732 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: what he's saying. And I'm saying, just be clear that 733 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: I said, you said. But I was the more imporn 734 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: person at the time. I was the mort my shop. 735 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: It ain't my job. He wasn't. How to get that 736 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: back to the down we don't want to imagine. Yeah, 737 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: I got okay, so boom, Let's let's get back to 738 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: the Let's get back to the origin the album be called. 739 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: When I first heard Martin is you heard us on 740 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: master Flex. That's a lot, that's a lot way before 741 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: that stretching stretch don't you know what the funny thing 742 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: is like? So I heard it. I was just you know, 743 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: so to back up a little bit, you know, I 744 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: was doing an underground college radio show, so I was 745 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,959 Speaker 1: always intuned to what was happening on the streets music 746 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: glass or whatever I had heard about you. I had 747 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: never heard anything. In the fact, I had read the 748 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: article about your vibe. I think Sasha or wrote it. 749 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: It was it was a bucked out article because it 750 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: was like but anyway, then I eventually got the demo 751 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: tape and what Trag was saying, what stood out to 752 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: me on that demo tape was your offward style, but 753 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: it was different. It was like something that I was like, oh, 754 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: ship because you know, it was like a regular record, 755 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: but it was it was this was what I'm talking about, 756 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: l A l A right hand together, but then your voice, 757 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: your tone, all other I was like, oh this ship 758 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: is this is this is different. This stood out and 759 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, my mind framing that time, you know, doing 760 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: underground radio, doing all other stuff, it was like it 761 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: was dope. I was like, this is cool. And then 762 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: that's how you know, I got tracked to come in 763 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: and but I heard about y'all like do the vibe 764 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: on the underground like stretch. Okay, you know what I'm saying, Stretched, 765 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: fat man, big big part of my career, the fact 766 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: fact of so a lot of people. So it was like, 767 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, y'all was bumbling up. It was a lot 768 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: of people with just like stretched, you know, and then 769 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, tragic and then like the article on this 770 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: other stuff. Now, when I say an article in the magazine, 771 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: remind you this is before social media right now. It 772 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: was the social you had to you know, physical cop 773 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: It was like twelve lines. It was like at the time, 774 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: right by the way, let me just be clear. At 775 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: the time NAS came out, change the trajectory of how 776 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: quick is hip hop is supposed to sound? How's Queen's 777 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: hip hop? You know, we was just coming through this 778 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: detriment to disaster from a guy in CARSS one took amout. 779 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: The bridge is over, the NAS comes and we store 780 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: us our whole, you know, prod. Then this other group 781 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: comes out mob deep and there's no other group to 782 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: compare us to. So I remember the first three articles. Yeah, 783 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: we were small deep looks we were small deep regents 784 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: were exactly remember the exact remember mother, I'm saying it 785 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: was quasi mob deep. I don't even know what I'm like, 786 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: like like like a south of deep, like a that 787 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: was before they knew where we are. We you were affiliated, 788 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: like like this is how it was, this is how, 789 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: this is how it works. People need something to compare 790 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: something to, they need a gauge and that that At 791 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: that time, I didn't. It just offended me because I'm like, no, 792 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: we're not piece to have it. That's my brother. I 793 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: love him, love mother, I love his mother, Rest in peace, 794 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: Killer Black. I love this whole family. I love his sister. 795 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: That's my little brother. You know what I'm saying, but 796 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: evolveing me because we're going so hard and kind of 797 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: like how you felt about Queen's bench and left frack. 798 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. You gotta understand, I'm the 799 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: big brother. I don't want to be is my little brother. 800 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't want me and minds to be associated in 801 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: that way like we're trying to bite off of his nation. 802 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: And when you're struggling and you're trying to get to 803 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 1: a point and you know in yourself what it is 804 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: and what you have, it could be offensive. But now 805 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: that we oh do we don't understand that. Motherfucker's just 806 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: didn't know how to place it or he just didn't 807 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: understand it. Sometimes like that, you have situations where people 808 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: bring a particular you know, sound to someone and they 809 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: just don't even know what to do with it, and 810 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: they'll dead you, but you think they're dead, and you 811 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: they just push you on to go somewhere else where 812 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. Yeah, it'd be Craig. So when 813 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: they wrote that was like, oh, ship the fun because 814 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're back in the hood. And then you 815 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: know when he's looking at and he's tried, like you know, 816 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: and he's trying to be like sunning them. But I 817 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: know what I'm listening to way different or give me wrong, 818 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: p and halves nice, but this is way different. It's 819 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 1: coming from a different place sonically, physically, it's coming from 820 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: the same place halfway sonically, is coming from a different 821 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: place in a different a certain kind of sincerity. The 822 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: best thing for us is that me and his brother 823 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: sounded totally different and complimented each of course, if we 824 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: sounded the same, it would have been like yeah, because 825 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, even though Pier has sounds a little different. 826 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: They still sound the same, Still get the same, Kat, 827 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: You're still get to say, Man, this fulk is like 828 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: totally the tone him and peace tone is the rhythm. 829 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They're tone the same, but 830 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: he's stereo. So y'all, ship is like this the stereo, 831 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When we didn't have familar, 832 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: that's what I ain't feeling that. That's what I ain't finished. 833 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: That's what I ain't I was going to tell me. God, 834 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you you said, but I wanted to do that. 835 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: This sorry shot earlier, You shoot my later. Um, when 836 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: we're in the studio, we had power play, which is 837 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: now called in your ear action. Remember asked Pirou the 838 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: parole question them? Um, they took over power play from 839 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: Patrick and them. You remember Patrick and them power play 840 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: from back in the days where they did uh Finding's Cherry, 841 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,479 Speaker 1: where they did pay them full, where they did strictly business. Listen. 842 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: All of the some of the greatest hip hop landmark 843 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: of albums, staples of albums came out of the studio 844 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: which I used to go to when I was young 845 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: and delivered things from a Man and Dirty Red in 846 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: my projects to Patrick to the owner. I never thought 847 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: so I never was. I was like a ten of Levin, 848 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: but when I was going there was like, oh ship, 849 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: I wanted to be in there, but never thought that. 850 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm being there with my brother's later on myself. So 851 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: we're doing illegal life and acts comes out and he's like, yo, 852 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: the man, it's ill. She mean, he was like he 853 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: rhymes and starrio. So I'm like, oh shit, I kind 854 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: of didn't hear that ship that the whole term and 855 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: so long, like I forgot what that mint. I'm like, 856 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: that's why. Then they get just sham funny but ill, 857 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. It's like he's almost 858 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: he gotta walk told him almost like I can't explain, 859 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm listening to this thing. Now, 860 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm listening to him like, oh that's all, and the 861 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: ship is off. He rhymes, He rhymes off. If anybody 862 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: I could compare to, like rhythmically, it would kind of 863 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: be like p a little bit in that sense. Pe 864 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: rhymes off, but you wouldn't match it because of the tones. 865 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: They got to. His mom told he's the stereo. You 866 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: understand the signs. Good looking man yea. Let me just 867 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: say how I kind of remembered that. I kind of 868 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: remember that this is how, And you tell me if 869 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, and I could be, I could be 870 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: like a little bit wrong, but I know I noticed 871 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: this fact. I think you describe poems like yo, it 872 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: is like the Games, the Burden, the Knobs. Then Homeboys. Yeah, 873 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: I did say that a Homeboys and your man in 874 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: stereo did happen as you said stereo? You're telling truth? 875 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: You said stereo? And he was like, because I was 876 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: walking to the back, I think I was what did 877 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: they call us at air hustling? Yeah, and we was 878 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: in the hallway parts like little Stu. That's a fact 879 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: that a little like he was wanting about you, you're 880 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna do that. That's the shot. You can block the 881 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: ding out. You know what I'm saying. You're figuring that. 882 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: That's a fact. But now moving on, Now, moving on, 883 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: we have this demo. Now when you stepped to them, 884 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: you have a demo already. Yo, I'm not gonna I'm 885 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I got the l A late demoment 886 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 1: was yeah, because I don't remember. Isn't that what scored 887 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: white pass? You guys pressed up. That's the post had it, 888 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: that's game. Yeah's rest and his mother palms up to 889 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,399 Speaker 1: S's moms passion. We actually soon as I get back, Yeah, 890 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: resting stress. Stretch actually went to his family. Is I know, 891 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: but this is not the country. This is before the 892 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: stretch Um and Banto's family factor came in because I 893 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: didn't tell y'all because the family do so so so 894 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 1: um I gave. I didn't tell y'all at the time 895 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: because you know, at the time he was going around 896 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: and you don't want to tell. It's like having an 897 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: army and you're about to go to war, but I 898 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: lost a couple of battles on a faction, A piece 899 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: of the army lost a battle over here. You don't 900 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 1: want to keep telling mother's because they lose more rack. 901 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: You gotta motivate, you know what I'm saying. So it's 902 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: certain ships that would go there and shot out that 903 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: will be said that I wouldn't necessarily say because I 904 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: know I'm like yo in my mind. First of all, 905 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a person if I see something nobody's 906 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 1: gonna deny me, flex and tell you that nobody's gonna 907 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: deny me. Once I believe it. My ship is like this, 908 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: and I died for that ship. You know what I'm saying. 909 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: So it's like, yo, alright, cool, I don't want to 910 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 1: tell him that I brung it overhead, and you know what, 911 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:18,760 Speaker 1: I want to but because I think that's interesting, interesting, 912 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: that's that's shoving. Because yeah, because yeah, like you can't 913 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: you can't throw that in the air. For some young dudes, 914 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: that's I mean, he's just coming off the street, you know, 915 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: and they may not be may not be able to 916 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: decipher that and break that down without making them discover 917 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: So any long story, long ago, that's when I started 918 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: looking at like he actually you asked and about having 919 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: a vision or whatever. Like I said, I ain't gonna 920 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: lie's gonna say you no Christmas gifts because a lot 921 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: of times what it was is I would go off 922 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 1: the feedback. So I might have brung it over here, 923 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: that motherfucker might have shot it down, But think I'll 924 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: bring over here. And they said, yo, you know what, 925 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring it over here. But 926 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: I see what you're doing here. Let's just give you 927 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: something to help you out balance the scales. I'm like, 928 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm taking all this in it. But when I by 929 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: the time I got the Martin, you know, I didn't 930 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: bring a demo. Now I don't know why. I remember 931 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 1: because I started saying, you know, you know what, I 932 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: don't make this ship like I'm like, I'm pitching something. 933 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: People won't take it in necessarily. But if I'm making 934 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: like I'm hitting them with some exclusive ship, they'll take 935 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: more time to appreciate for what it is. And I 936 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: remember because I was like, Yo, this thing is like 937 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: stretching Barbica just now, not like that. But you know 938 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, y'all to use the underground, right so, 939 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: and you know where I'm home at, you know what 940 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like, you know what, give 941 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: give certain he's hit him with just the fucking song, Like, 942 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: don't try to make no demo, because initially we try to. 943 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: We try to go and put um and do the 944 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: ship for Puffs mix tasks, right that was for the 945 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: Bad Boy, and that ship like had me like damn, 946 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: that ship was like very discouraging. I really wanted I 947 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: really wanted us to make that that fucking you know 948 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: that that that car right there for Yeah, he did, 949 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: but we didn't necessarily make it. You know what I'm saying, 950 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: do that. You know I can't another thing case some point, 951 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: another thing, put some ship, just be it gets greater later. 952 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying on for for me 953 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: seeing that, seeing what what we was doing, seeing what 954 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: we had, I just wanted us to keep it not 955 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: so much orthodox so we didn't get shot down. So 956 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: dude like we went to the sauce and went to 957 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: different dudes, not straight away from me, because that old 958 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: co is side, that old coined side with around that 959 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: same time, because now we're going to give it. I 960 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: forgot who it was the end of that sauce. No, no, 961 00:57:53,720 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 1: that's fine to check him vibe who No, No, it 962 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: was a rare rich rich but he was the editor. 963 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: Now he wasn't the editor of music editor like he 964 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: was he was. He went on the world from eminem. Yeah, 965 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: rig morally. So you know at the time, all these 966 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: things is put a little moving put this ship. I'm 967 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: not looking at it how I would look at it now, 968 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: like like a commander and be like old you know, 969 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: old press is good press. I didn't look at it 970 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: like that. I'm too so personally connected to I'm like Yo, 971 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: these motherfucker's ship. So now when we get the Vibe ship, 972 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: that's that's what's crazy, because you know it was crazy. 973 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: We we it felt I felt in that article, in 974 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: that interview he was trying to like at least I was. 975 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: I was trying to prove something and I went too far. 976 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: You said that it was crazy, right, I went too far, 977 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: slimmy jin because go ahead and tell him. You know, 978 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: I was pulled shirt and shot out. Then then because 979 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at your listen, this ship could come back. 980 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: He picked up the gun and got about putting his nick. 981 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: I came in and tell the truth. It was say 982 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: takes but the artist, wo happened? Two Dud was in 983 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: the room. Three D in the room, so I was, 984 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: I was in the fucking room. Yeah, I was like 985 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: my three He has a green others so in the 986 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: prophets wasazing to me green cop and he had a Microway, 987 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: ain't dry, everyone want dry? I love this guy's rich. 988 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: You know what I said. I didn't want I looked. 989 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: It was like nine eleven to breathe everywhere. Mind you, 990 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: we gotta act like we do this ship ply funny 991 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: basically for the room okay, there it wasn't there all 992 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the same gun, Let's just be clear, it's why you accident. 993 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I just let be gun. I don't know about this ship. 994 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: You know about this? You're right boy? Still because stars 995 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: should do our documentary. He needs to know it. Yes, 996 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: he needs to go the flowers stops shouldn't do. I 997 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 1: just don't understand why you didn't say he was in 998 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the crib and the dumb separate yourself. I'm spared he 999 01:00:53,800 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: probably visiting. Don't let him do it today? We all okay, 1000 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: they can't hold hold on, hold on because there's another thing. 1001 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Why it to aplicating into penalty. That was a big campaign. 1002 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: A part of our thing was people kept calling me 1003 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: because like I just seen on the train station. Man, 1004 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I've gett that ship down and I'm just like what 1005 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: And I'm to about four weeks because you know, obviously 1006 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: back then we didn't have to we didn't have Instagram, 1007 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: so people were calling me or whatever I had, like, 1008 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think two ways of I would 1009 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: call him. They're not fully telling me the story, so 1010 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: let's it went on for weeks because they think it 1011 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: ain't holding me down. They're like, yo, man, I've seen 1012 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: that ship. I was like, what. Meanwhile, when draft was 1013 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: doing was putting up a bone and no want tip 1014 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: post and myself I was he was on supposed trying 1015 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: to put you first. You gotta check. I'm just telling 1016 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: you these if you still about the course. So what 1017 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,439 Speaker 1: I didn't know for weeks were there are a people 1018 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 1: that was calling me. It was warning me if you 1019 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 1: gotta realize they're speaking cold. That just saying, but I 1020 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: want No one called me north at the time like 1021 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: some people say, Um, you know, I saw and I heard, 1022 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: so you know, when I concene it, I tore it down. 1023 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: So I'm listening and I'm trying to like, what are 1024 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 1: they but I can't. And then this one call and 1025 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: it gets more decoded. Y'all saw it was only one 1026 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: last I took it down. It wasn't till a week 1027 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: later that I was actually got to see the post 1028 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: of myself where I'm like, wait a minute, No one 1029 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: told me about this promotion and then I found out, 1030 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know about it. But I didn't know 1031 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: about this. We didn't know. I didn't know. First of all, 1032 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: we had to put up our posters. I didn't know 1033 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that you know, omar agent to five, but Leave the 1034 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: chic was actually the people that was out there. You know, 1035 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: it's just putting it and it's gonna do it. So 1036 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: by the way, but it came to me even though 1037 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I knew of it. I didn't. You don't understand what 1038 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: it was. I didn't understand because of the cold cold 1039 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: it was. It was a straight up saying y'all and 1040 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: took it down. That arguably, I don't know how much 1041 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,479 Speaker 1: money that took, but that arguably it was a cheap 1042 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: just as much. Boss, that's an camp. Let me say 1043 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: how much. But you know what the next step was 1044 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: that made it even ella After that was the who 1045 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: the fund is components thinking it was okay, all right, 1046 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: but but this is the origin. I don't want leave. 1047 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: You came to us for a coast. I believe you. 1048 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: You just yeah, I didn't, and then you just did it. 1049 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: So I came to you and I said, listen, I'm 1050 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: gonna do something. You know what it was, thank you? 1051 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: But I should know what they were talking about, yeah, 1052 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: because I just I was like, ye'a all gonna do 1053 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: some one and sign. He was like, yeah, whatever, But 1054 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: I was, I was I had the bro go to 1055 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 1: the go to the library and duplicate this is a library. 1056 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: We didn't have computers like that public library in the 1057 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: way some of these guys over here when you said librries, 1058 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: like what then is that duplicate an actual one of 1059 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: FBI wanted post. Yeah, because I had I had to 1060 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 1: get your photo. I told you how to get past. 1061 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: But look, h picture it was the water poster. Yeah. 1062 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, so when he's choling out when he says, 1063 01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: dudes just talking and cold because they thought of wanting 1064 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: posts were rare. Yeah, but I said, if you have 1065 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: any information regarding these suspecs, it was hot always sort 1066 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: of far. It was hot ninety seven and and then 1067 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: simultaneously that's when we came with a Lane like right 1068 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 1: after that, and it kind of worked together. Man kind 1069 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: of worked out. Man kind of worked out. Yeah, and 1070 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: and and if you think about it, l A l 1071 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 1: A Tupac after it's a part of that record with 1072 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 1: Tupac because it's part to us. He's like, whoever else 1073 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 1: was one of y'all? Yeah, you kind of know that 1074 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: offended me. Now, this stuff that he didn't just us, 1075 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, you know, ided me Wnna be honest with you. 1076 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: I never take my glasses. I don't want anybody to 1077 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: really really listen. I'm fifty fifty with that, fifty fifty 1078 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 1: with me, says I wanted Park to this us. Yeah, ye, 1079 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: persis like I don't know if I would have been 1080 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: able to take it. Yeah, Like I don't know, Like 1081 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't know back then, like like right now, like 1082 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I know how to respond because now I know how 1083 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: to funk with my Instagram. Yeah, I understanding that, you 1084 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: know what, I canna understand that too. That's what I 1085 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: tell you that if the all the way Greenberry, I 1086 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: was like I even told you as recently like not 1087 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: jumping off but everything Coin signs playing like Yo, man, 1088 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. I mean that I'm saying, I'm 1089 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: proud of both of you. But I'm proud of you 1090 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: because I understand what this ship takes in a sense 1091 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 1: like coming from that that the fabric we come from, 1092 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: and not taking a certain ship personal because I would 1093 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: get comments in my hand start swaying because because I 1094 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: don't know where I come from, you don't know you're 1095 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: throwing Frank sin ship on my ship. Like I know 1096 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying at the time because because I don't 1097 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: understand how to how to how to take that in 1098 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. These dudes just ensuing say 1099 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: crazy ship, and I'm like the fun But now I 1100 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: thought high because you don't know about the block button. 1101 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Oh yeah, hell yeah, but you gotta get it, 1102 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: No freaking gotta get a hit block because then you 1103 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 1: don't know what the black with the blood he say. Okay, Mail, 1104 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: I heard you say that earlier. Who the fun? The 1105 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: component Noriega stickers. You guys had windoms up those clickers 1106 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: as well. Oh no, this just came along after the 1107 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: music came after the music. Okay, and the music is 1108 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: pretty earlier undertaking a single. Yeah, first Dames on the 1109 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 1: single and we just blooded this ship every fun everything'll 1110 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,120 Speaker 1: see it today. I still westside of you gotta be 1111 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: a dirty cremace clicker. You might. I've seen a few plas. 1112 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: What's the single? What's the single that you're saying? Is 1113 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: it l a late life legal stick you stick you? Yes, 1114 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: it was stick had the ready great sticker stick you got. 1115 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: They was hitting us after label told they're gonna do something. 1116 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,640 Speaker 1: That's what we're going to that was the craziest thing 1117 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: of the record was round, Like we really wanted to stick. 1118 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: We're not right, but we definitely it wasn't It was definitely. Man, 1119 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I was just sucking stick you with the red and 1120 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: silver sticking. That's fact. That's a factual. I think we 1121 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,000 Speaker 1: did like a half a million just in New York. 1122 01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: That makes a drink many because um, you know, Neil, 1123 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. The whole time being on Penalty, 1124 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: the success that Penalty had, I never knew it was 1125 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: an independently that it was a major felt yeah things 1126 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: where Yeah, that's the fact. I can test that, that's 1127 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: a fact. I mean, that's why I was, you know, 1128 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: so louting you earlier, because that's what I was trying 1129 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,879 Speaker 1: to establish, was you know, And that's with no disrespect 1130 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 1: to anybody else that was on Penalty prior to us. 1131 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 1: I think, um to pick up the law Finesse was 1132 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: also I also invited here and also was on the 1133 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Worry for the album. I mean, but wow, but I 1134 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: didn't know any like what what alreadywhere at that time, 1135 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 1: and that at this time, although Mark Deep was a 1136 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: very underground based group, they was coming back with hardware 1137 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: you know they was coming back with that, you know 1138 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: what I mean? So what what what? What was it 1139 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: trying to depend again, like just to just to kind 1140 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: of like circulate around it again. It's like and I 1141 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 1: gotta you know, we all go through our things, but 1142 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,560 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta say thank you for giving me 1143 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: a chance. Man, Well, I you go through things, thank 1144 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: you to give me a chance. I'm tlings tucking my stomach, 1145 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm you know what I'm saying because 1146 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 1: when you look back, like you said something deep, man, 1147 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: sometime you get off and I'm saying free. So you 1148 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,639 Speaker 1: said you don't realize that you have to lose it. Yeah, 1149 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: So when I looked at now, I'm like, damn, yo, 1150 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 1: I would do anything. Had that right now, you don't 1151 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,760 Speaker 1: have people and take chances anymore. It's phone your lady, 1152 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 1: the music and phone your lady. He took a chance 1153 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: for somebody. Well appreciate the analytics. And it's it's so 1154 01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: different again, you know, for for for us, he didn't 1155 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 1: even have a demo. It's like, wow, you know, who 1156 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: does that? Like who does that? Hold? He just says 1157 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,880 Speaker 1: something so crazy right now, every just said he didn't 1158 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: even have a demo. I don't know, he said, Now, 1159 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: analytics numbers, it's not a and R. It's research. But 1160 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: you know what, as we say that, you know what, 1161 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,560 Speaker 1: it's so deeper though, as when we say that, we 1162 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: gotta look at us, and he gets you can't just look. 1163 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: That's why ship is not being broken. That's why I 1164 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: gotta say this, Anther cut you. That's why ship is 1165 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: not changings. Drink up too, because it's not for me. 1166 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's going over a good time. And they say math 1167 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: don't lie. But the gut no saying that the soul 1168 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,600 Speaker 1: is gone, the oland is gone to fucking you know, 1169 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 1: the instincts like survival. It's instincts, you know what I'm saying. 1170 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 1: It's innate, it's natural. The naturality of the ship is 1171 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: being lost because it's all about analytics. Analytics constitutes dollars 1172 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 1: which we gotta make. But you made money just off 1173 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: your instincts. I think that makes you greater later, know 1174 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, anything count, but that's real ship. But 1175 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: remember Matt does a lot. Because it's proven that they 1176 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 1: paying for that. Math paid for that for It's not math, 1177 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Paying for number, numbers for numbers. Yeah, 1178 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: but it's not actually math can for numbers alternate side, 1179 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 1: it's altering, altering pay to getting to change. Imagine how 1180 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 1: much how many creative or how many artists were losing 1181 01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: because no one's taking a chance on the gut field 1182 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 1: on what they hear. We're just going off of these 1183 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: numbers that are bought and so. And that's what I said, 1184 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Let's keep it because dudes like, YO, this money. I 1185 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, but these dude believe in the ship. 1186 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,759 Speaker 1: Who's gonna put out tea on WI is the first single? 1187 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: You can't tell me. I don't killing nobody say I 1188 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,760 Speaker 1: know the ship. You can't tell me. Another lady at 1189 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 1: that time put a single when they wanted that. I 1190 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, these motherfucker's understand because because I was like, 1191 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:29,320 Speaker 1: that's the one. To that point, we were on a 1192 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 1: different wavelengths. Like you know this guy Nil when he 1193 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, plucked me out of college to work out 1194 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 1: round the globe. He was like, you know, I'm here 1195 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: from New York. But he he was like promoting like 1196 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: ice Cube, promoting like shipped from the Dirty South, like 1197 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 1: before it was popular in New York. My my ears 1198 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: were like tuning into what was happening in New York. 1199 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: But he was promoting records from all over this you 1200 01:13:52,360 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, it's the first time 1201 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I heard about getting different wavelength in terms of just 1202 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: just just finding like like you said, zoning into like 1203 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: the gut and zoning it into that and not not 1204 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: the math and magic. He did have math, Mark, you 1205 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: have only this budget to sign and an album. That's 1206 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 1: why a lot of ship didn't get signed. One thing 1207 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that you make it makes sense, it 1208 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: make money, You'll find it, You'll find And I had 1209 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 1: to learn that later on. But you know, because of 1210 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 1: the war report to tell you the truth, and I 1211 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: say this, um um, I was telling Diego earlier or 1212 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 1: or Diego broke it up and I was sitting there. 1213 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, to this day, you know, I 1214 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: knew how, I knew how I knew how to not 1215 01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: play with the budget because of what trash tragic And 1216 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 1: then like listen, I dude, like what are y'all doing? 1217 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm saying that, And and Mark, you know because 1218 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 1: later on in Good Life and and Neil, I would 1219 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 1: never play with the studio because of the war report. 1220 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: So it was such a so so so must magical 1221 01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: session was what was your favorite session? You know, being 1222 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,600 Speaker 1: a part of a witnessing one of my favorite. You know, man, 1223 01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 1: you're going to pack. You can't. You can't do it, 1224 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 1: to be honest, you can't even you can't even really 1225 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 1: like the sessions was so crazy. It's all the hallway action, 1226 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like, and and then 1227 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: on top of that, I wasn't really like official staff, 1228 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 1: so it was like you don't want to overstep or whatever, 1229 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: but you know, like just seeing your guys and just 1230 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: doing it, and you know, of course being part of 1231 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 1: the you know when we did the reunion and n 1232 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: R E and all of that ship right yo yo, 1233 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say parself. I was gonna say that 1234 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 1: because you want the hallway action was crazy. That's why 1235 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,439 Speaker 1: when he asked you, I just don't thought. I was like, oh, ship, 1236 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: remember it was a session. Is that unique forty seven 1237 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,599 Speaker 1: street stop? That such ship forty seven seven or one 1238 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:16,799 Speaker 1: forty forty seventh Street and Broadway seventh frogs seven frogs, 1239 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: so barrels over some barrels. Tony Rome was across the street. 1240 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So we upend up. I didn't know that white some creem. 1241 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: Did you creep over there and get a rap beef 1242 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 1: rim to the coast? Slow? No, I was gonna me 1243 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 1: your buzzet was pluck you and fucking get to out. 1244 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: They was checking it from town cars. I'm tying the 1245 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: real I remember coming in. You showed me to stay well, 1246 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 1: keep out. I was gonna budget. Now, let's keep it Greensbury. 1247 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 1: Let's keep it Greenberry. Now. I woke into Nelson trying 1248 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 1: I gonna talk to you. Don't talk to me like that. 1249 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,560 Speaker 1: They don't know what did you don't talk to me 1250 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: like that? He said, you're trying to got the chunk. 1251 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,600 Speaker 1: John's on the office and the office and I was like, 1252 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:18,320 Speaker 1: you know what, what is this? What I'm only talking about, yo? 1253 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: The budget for the car? Getting getting serious, I said, yo, man, 1254 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 1: And then he showed me. I think it had like 1255 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 1: a had like an addressing ship like where at the 1256 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 1: time he stopped the correct don't even a house. You're 1257 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: taking this car and go for your man, and this 1258 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:44,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't really well this door. It was like crazy 1259 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 1: for that ship cause only two hours he went there. 1260 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 1: I went to connect to McDonald's over the trying. I said, amazing, 1261 01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,680 Speaker 1: talk to Morton about it. You were talking at the time. 1262 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, chicken wing budget house. So that's 1263 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 1: kind of like when he was like, yo, bringing brother. 1264 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,280 Speaker 1: She has a lot of alue shit. I'm like, my fun, 1265 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: you didn't bringing things to the show case ten sax 1266 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:29,560 Speaker 1: chicken wings chicken. Yeah. So okay, boom, now we we 1267 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 1: was it from Flex because I know you said you 1268 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't discover something funk Flex, but we did a classic 1269 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 1: monument to funk flex freestyle and then that's kind of 1270 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: what set it off right before too. I think that's 1271 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,600 Speaker 1: when we did it deal and m M, I remember this. 1272 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. That seems kind of I don't 1273 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: remember Jaggie that around, like because I remember going to 1274 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: see Flex. You know what a big he was there 1275 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: that there. No, this is later, this is later, okay, 1276 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: and this is a little later because I remember just 1277 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,639 Speaker 1: even get him to getting him to like even Flex 1278 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 1: was fronting on us listen to the record and he 1279 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,720 Speaker 1: says it to this day, you don't like So I 1280 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,840 Speaker 1: remember him fronting on the record and I'm like, oh, bro, like, 1281 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: who is doing like you can't do this. You have 1282 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 1: to a lot of things. He is not a lie, 1283 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 1: and he seems like when I've seen the research that 1284 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 1: when I'm telling you telling me all the time. So 1285 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, you can't. You can't like fronting 1286 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 1: this record right here because one you didn't never listen 1287 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,320 Speaker 1: to it. Because I can tell you you don't have 1288 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: nothing to say about it. You know how somebody who 1289 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 1: gives somebody something. But you want me to defending flex 1290 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: without defending let me let me get because because this 1291 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: is because in essence, I'm really complimenting it when I 1292 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,960 Speaker 1: when I get through it, because you know, you give 1293 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 1: somebody something and normally if they funked with it, they're 1294 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna tell you why they're not gonna funk with it. 1295 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 1: He didn't do that, just like yo, because so am 1296 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,880 Speaker 1: I like, oh, you ain't even listen to the ship. 1297 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: But I was like all right, cool. I was like, alright, cool, 1298 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 1: I see how I gotta do this. Dude. I'm gonna 1299 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: just be in his face every time you look up. 1300 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say nothing to him. I'm not gonna 1301 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,600 Speaker 1: ask him to play it again. Every he's gonna know 1302 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,640 Speaker 1: when he looks at me why I'm here, and we 1303 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: just walk away, you know what I'm saying. So I 1304 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 1: would go anywhere he was at. I win, can't break out. 1305 01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I pop up at the tunnel sometimes if I have 1306 01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 1: no money, we keep it greenberry. But I got just 1307 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: enough to get a bottle. And if you win the tonnel, 1308 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the floor was like in Boof was up there, and 1309 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: I'd go like this, so he can't. He can't not 1310 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: look at me because he's like this now reflects me 1311 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: here and they don't drink, but take your yeah, and 1312 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,400 Speaker 1: I want you to take it bottle and I break out. 1313 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Kept doing that for dumb low and then we went 1314 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 1: up too hot Lady Cheven. Now this is when we 1315 01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,479 Speaker 1: go to Hani Chevon and he's like yo, y'all off 1316 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 1: to the side a little bit. And obviously I can 1317 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: tell he didn't really know us, because even me before 1318 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 1: saying because he was like, yoh man, I don't really 1319 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,639 Speaker 1: feel it. But you know what, That's why I say. 1320 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 1: He's official in his way and he's a leo like me, 1321 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 1: so he got to be calling it. You know what 1322 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so factual you already know. So I was 1323 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 1: like something came to me like, there's a lot of 1324 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: magic in this album. Man, it's just just ship to me. 1325 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,560 Speaker 1: When he said that, something came to my mind that 1326 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: happened that I happened to be in the room when 1327 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: they bring him the wood chain record. I remember what 1328 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 1: he said. He was like, Yo, that's gonna never go nowhere. 1329 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Well so now I'm like, he's like, yeah, I said, Yo, 1330 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: you said wood change weren't going to where he was stuck. 1331 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 1: That's how you he said. But that's you're for the brows. 1332 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't saying now Flix gave it to him any 1333 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 1: any any fucking that's when we went up there, and 1334 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 1: we went up there. Big was there? No? Big was 1335 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,840 Speaker 1: that was that? That wasn't that time? Anyway, he plays 1336 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 1: the record, I aven fun. He plays the record, and 1337 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 1: after he played the record, he it wasn't It wasn't 1338 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 1: till wide though. It wasn't nilling what you know what 1339 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: it was. I wasn't even note that fun see that 1340 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,600 Speaker 1: this time is shaky. I remember my ship at that 1341 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 1: a time of shaky because a lot was going on, 1342 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot was there was a lot of stretch in 1343 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: the air. Because Phil woke with me, because I was 1344 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 1: about to go. I was about to go earlier on 1345 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Uh it was paradox and that's why. That's why Martin 1346 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,640 Speaker 1: convinced me. It's like, yo, you gotta put that on 1347 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 1: them or album. I didn't want to do it because 1348 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 1: I didn't want you take away from my manch I 1349 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to take it that record. I didn't want 1350 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: to take away from my mask me every day to 1351 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 1: put that. And I was like, now because in my mind, 1352 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: I didn't want people I'm not trying to at the time, 1353 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,640 Speaker 1: you want to overshadow him. Because I was like, no, 1354 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to problem. I gotta stop before a 1355 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 1: little bit because Doug Paradise was still after to or what. 1356 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:29,680 Speaker 1: It was still a telling why before whatever the drying was, 1357 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 1: because you know what I wanta tell you? Why don't 1358 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: combredation was before because him get it definitely before the 1359 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 1: album because they forced me to get that third verse 1360 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: when I felt like, yeah, I remember that. I felt like, 1361 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 1: Doug Paradise is perfect with just your poem, and it 1362 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: was like, you know, to make it a component Mariaga record, 1363 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: I would have to get on that recordly right, because 1364 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 1: he was already like flex already into it. I gave 1365 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 1: him the DJ. It was like it had that old 1366 01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: school that short day, so like that I gotta be 1367 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, it was it, But what it was, I'll 1368 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: tell you what it was. We were still working on 1369 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,600 Speaker 1: the album. We did tell on why it wasn't in 1370 01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: that form way. We was even raid to choose this. 1371 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 1: Suld added later too, Yeah, because because in my mind 1372 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 1: till on what came out first. I remember that I 1373 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 1: too came out. It wasn't before we did it was right, 1374 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 1: you got no, that's right. I remember that I came 1375 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,160 Speaker 1: out when I was in YAP. That's right. I was 1376 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: getting sick as remember I used to Right, we shot 1377 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,559 Speaker 1: the video, but we did the same I was going 1378 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,920 Speaker 1: away like a week in a week were going away, 1379 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,639 Speaker 1: That's right. We did try the way that that weekend 1380 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 1: before we shot the video, and I want to say 1381 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 1: thank you for crash hit cars still making it away 1382 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,720 Speaker 1: was definitely after but yeah, because we didn't. I kicked. 1383 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I kicked the judge in the face. The judge in 1384 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the face. Oh yeah, yeah, we have switched actor. But 1385 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 1: I told you, but I'm told him. I was like, 1386 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of big and ship. I don't think I 1387 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: should jump and run with the boots on and I'm 1388 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: just gonna stop on his glass top test. I didn't 1389 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 1: say that. I didn't say that. He was like, now 1390 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. I'm running down the aisle like this, 1391 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the court it goes like this, I'm 1392 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: jumping on the test, but I'm supposed to fake to 1393 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:35,400 Speaker 1: kick kick split this whole ship up. She was crazy. 1394 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 1: But but I remember stunt perrumps. Yeah, I don't remember 1395 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,560 Speaker 1: because I didn't getting shot for that, so probably I 1396 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,560 Speaker 1: was probably like that record. It was all like that 1397 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 1: record that's crazy because it was that's like the moving parts, 1398 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like those are all remember 1399 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,800 Speaker 1: in the beginning, when you do something that you don't 1400 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: want to do, if it feels crazy, like like I was, 1401 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: what did I have? Yeah? And I was telling him, oh, no, 1402 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: was the record that I didn't like. I wasn't pushing 1403 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 1: he sad head, It was ain't right, Okay, okay, okay, 1404 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: do you know what I like? You know, you put 1405 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: it like I always playing it to him. How sometimes 1406 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 1: you can make a record, put a budget behind it, 1407 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 1: and then you could not like the process of not 1408 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 1: like it. And that was pretty much what Doug Paroday 1409 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Stiff and me. It wasn't like I made the record 1410 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,599 Speaker 1: or have anything to do with the record. But once 1411 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 1: in the backup came out, I kind of was like, yo, 1412 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,519 Speaker 1: let them shine, like you know what I mean, Like 1413 01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,599 Speaker 1: it's cool. And then um, when the when the label 1414 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,720 Speaker 1: was forcing me to because it was crazy because here 1415 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 1: in small labels forced you to do things I wouldn't 1416 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: say make sense to me. They said, you listen, this 1417 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 1: is a component. Yeah, you know what I mean. So, um, 1418 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: and I did it. It was which is crazy if 1419 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: you were you remember that verse that I used on 1420 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,080 Speaker 1: the Paradise was the verse that I used on the 1421 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:12,040 Speaker 1: original I'm leaving. This is original I'm leaving. It's the 1422 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,840 Speaker 1: same exact because I came in and they were like 1423 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:20,080 Speaker 1: that's that's no, and I was like really another, alright, cool, 1424 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 1: So when they though Paradise, I used the same exact verse, 1425 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 1: and you know, eventually, um, I was wrong. Paradise worked 1426 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:36,040 Speaker 1: unique studios right easy, LP Boom going to Trash just disappeared. 1427 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,240 Speaker 1: We don't know where they were at. Were stapped that earlier. 1428 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 1: We can't that y'all be disappearing Like I'm mic and 1429 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 1: the halfs are doing a little crazy days. Don't be blinding, 1430 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 1: don't be blocking. I'm speaking to you in the phone. 1431 01:27:54,880 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 1: You like, yoh, okay, you remember, like I'm in this 1432 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 1: this green E s three hunting, so I'll come over. 1433 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, Who's whip is this? Because I know it's 1434 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: not your with like this is nausious with I'm like, 1435 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm a nastis with what's going on? And you pushed 1436 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 1: play on a cassette and it's I'm leaving when you 1437 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: just came back from messing with Dre. I promise you. 1438 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 1: I said things about it like okay, let me let me, 1439 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,799 Speaker 1: let me describe to this is this is exactly what happened. 1440 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 1: Oh I was at my mother's house and my mother 1441 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: played this record. Oh don't let it go to your 1442 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 1: head now using no no, not at the time what 1443 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 1: they before? You never know they use that record before 1444 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 1: the time you're talking about when when you made I'm 1445 01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,320 Speaker 1: leaving brand Newbian's already made it and trust me, trash 1446 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 1: this me is waiting more than meat me on this one. 1447 01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:59,000 Speaker 1: I made it first. What don't coach? I know that's yeah, 1448 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: I made that early. Would that beat call? I'm leaving, 1449 01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I would call easy LP. Trust me, this was my 1450 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 1: first time producing the record. I'm not wrong with this 1451 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 1: fun you used that, and you use that beat me out. 1452 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 1: Different part of this is mine. Yeah, stop that, man, 1453 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: you talking about what was happening. Okay, So I couldn't 1454 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:36,000 Speaker 1: get you all. You couldn't get get Jo. I heard 1455 01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: it do dom Doom to Doom, to Doom, easy LP, 1456 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,680 Speaker 1: easy LP. So I know exactly because that's all I 1457 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:50,519 Speaker 1: knew was Dom do doom and easy For some reason 1458 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 1: exactly that you said, uh Sam mask, I think you're 1459 01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: saying that because it was right around the corner from 1460 01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: right track. So that's where me and y'allp we went. 1461 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,640 Speaker 1: We did it. The record came on and for some 1462 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:12,320 Speaker 1: reason I did, I'm leaving on the next thing. I 1463 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,960 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I don't be back again. Yeah, pray 1464 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: for me. I'm damn man, I tell for me. And 1465 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean I thought I killed it. I killed this 1466 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:29,840 Speaker 1: ship walking and he was like, yo, that's y'all. I 1467 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: just walked through too. I was laterly he was like 1468 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 1: that ship whack I did not right? You know what? 1469 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Did not say? It was back? Don't don't lie. You 1470 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,320 Speaker 1: know what you know what, I'm wrong for putting it 1471 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 1: that harshy. You definitely said something more, but she took it. 1472 01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 1: You took it that I heard that is whack. That's 1473 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: what I heard. You didn't hear what you wanted to hear. 1474 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 1: That's what he didn't hear when he wanted to hear it. 1475 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 1: So I was like, damn, oh, listen, hold on, capone, 1476 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 1: ain't packed me up. So I was like this just me. 1477 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 1: It was hard, and then trying to say, like you 1478 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 1: what you just see? You just see it was good. 1479 01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 1: I said, I like the record, butts just so, I'm like, man, 1480 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 1: I noticed records. I noticed records something, bro, I know 1481 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 1: this is some poem. You're gonna get a castro. This 1482 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 1: is actually if you wouldn't have said you didn't like 1483 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 1: that record, they were me you know that, So thank 1484 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 1: you for not like it. I'm being I'm being funny. 1485 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Let me just finished. I bet I'm being funny. I 1486 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,560 Speaker 1: am being funny. Don't take it like that. But what 1487 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,759 Speaker 1: happened was this was my first time because I started 1488 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,479 Speaker 1: to understand that pop Daddy doesn't really produce. Pup Daddy 1489 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,160 Speaker 1: takes something that he thinks it's dope. Brings it to 1490 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,439 Speaker 1: someone at someone helps create his vision for it. I 1491 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 1: wasn't say that. I was trying to do what you 1492 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,680 Speaker 1: compared to You said, we sample like Havoc and not 1493 01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,320 Speaker 1: like puff Daddy, and you let me just tell you 1494 01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,640 Speaker 1: something for the moment. Definitely right, No, but you know 1495 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,080 Speaker 1: what I did say that, and like I said, I'm 1496 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 1: not always fucking right. I can take one of two 1497 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:21,960 Speaker 1: or three four, but but I don't even know I 1498 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 1: was just right. I like that. I like my hundreds 1499 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: just right. So I like I said, fucking I said 1500 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: fucking just just a friend was whack. I was a 1501 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 1: bad call. That was a bad I those words, those words. 1502 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not always right. I'm accountable for my ship. I 1503 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: ain't gonna throw the rocket high in my hand. But 1504 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 1: you would have made n O R E regardless because 1505 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 1: it was guesting for you to make it. Yes, take you. 1506 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, respect that as well. But what I'm 1507 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 1: trying to tell you was that was the motivation was 1508 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 1: because I sat there and I was like, yeah, this 1509 01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 1: is a record. I felt fitted I was ready for 1510 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,439 Speaker 1: Neptunes almost before the Neptune's because I was sitting back 1511 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 1: like Martin Oh, I think, I think, I think what 1512 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 1: that was is like this how just how I take 1513 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,640 Speaker 1: is my my my perspectives, we need it. You was 1514 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 1: like and because you said it to it, that's why 1515 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: I'll admit it. You say, Yo, that was when it's 1516 01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 1: your first time ventuming out side of influence and you 1517 01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,880 Speaker 1: see your independence as a mean, it's a great feeling 1518 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 1: and you gotta get that because and I understand that 1519 01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,640 Speaker 1: you just said it. So that was You're going, oh, 1520 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,040 Speaker 1: ship on boom boom, I'm putting this whole ship the 1521 01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 1: yellow And I get that now. At the time, I 1522 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 1: ain't get that. I'm just hearing what the original vision was. 1523 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,040 Speaker 1: So that's in my head, you know what I'm saying, 1524 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,120 Speaker 1: and that's what got us at that point. But division 1525 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,280 Speaker 1: evolves and that's just fucking life. But you know, you 1526 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,840 Speaker 1: know I was grateful for because you know, the next 1527 01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:07,519 Speaker 1: session just like that identical was bloody money was um 1528 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,120 Speaker 1: unique studios. I'm sorr because I don't know, I feel 1529 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,120 Speaker 1: like I keep blowing y'all luck, but y'all when your 1530 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 1: blowing me, y'all was doing. But just make sure you 1531 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,840 Speaker 1: telling you, yeah, you know the school yourself from your 1532 01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:37,559 Speaker 1: true y'all was late crazy, he was sky talk man. 1533 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 1: He was never late. Yeah, never sticky. That's this is. 1534 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:52,840 Speaker 1: Let me be late man. Now, this guy you get 1535 01:34:53,080 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 1: for show the phone, don't tell me truth, don't. I'm 1536 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,519 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest to tell you 1537 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,400 Speaker 1: the truth I know to tell you, to tell you, 1538 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with y'all 1539 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 1: to tell y'all was more experience than me in the studio. 1540 01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:18,840 Speaker 1: So I can't say y'all took it for granted or 1541 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,800 Speaker 1: something like that. But y'all kind of game there when 1542 01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 1: y'all wanted to, when y'all wanted to, when I was 1543 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:29,040 Speaker 1: when y'all said I would be there at five. I 1544 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,160 Speaker 1: don't need that at four or forty five and be 1545 01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 1: scared to say I was there, Earl, bro, I can't 1546 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,479 Speaker 1: come here and you talk to come here. I can 1547 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 1: come there at six o'clock. I'm gonna call you and 1548 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,200 Speaker 1: like y you at the studio studios at four. I 1549 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,600 Speaker 1: don't need to be that form. I need to be 1550 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 1: there before closing to make sure it's good. I don't 1551 01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,120 Speaker 1: need to be there for I gave you to make tools. Well, 1552 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:59,640 Speaker 1: I gotta be there for you. Rushed to be like 1553 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:04,360 Speaker 1: you're okay, okay, straight that, but don't do like you was. 1554 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm with y'all, what dolf. 1555 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is a lot of 1556 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 1: the solo records, Let's just be clear, a lot of 1557 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,320 Speaker 1: the solo records that were made on the album from me, 1558 01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 1: it was because I was just sitting there, boy listening. No, 1559 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't because you're seen that boy sitting there, because 1560 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,400 Speaker 1: you was from me. I'm making seem like he was 1561 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,639 Speaker 1: action I'm talking to exactly this board is he was. Boy? 1562 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,599 Speaker 1: You know what I listen? You were with the one 1563 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,200 Speaker 1: about to go to jail. Yes, yes, very true. You 1564 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,439 Speaker 1: went to Jersey and now you're about to go to 1565 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: a real prison. You aren't the one about to go. 1566 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: This man to tell you we we both was like 1567 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: your son, you gotta make records and I'm gonna keep you. 1568 01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,679 Speaker 1: I wasn't late even before he was going to jail 1569 01:36:51,720 --> 01:37:01,960 Speaker 1: to come. Is the even guy here? I don't talking wine, 1570 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 1: Come on, wine, I ain't killed Lake with black. Don't 1571 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 1: go ron, No, don't know what it's not Norm's a 1572 01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: beast like he's a hard worker. Right, so he's like 1573 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,760 Speaker 1: you never said after you, So I think you said 1574 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 1: you're just like no, no, no no, I can take 1575 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 1: a couple man and Crimina. I'm saying it's the same thing. Bro. 1576 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Hold on one second, mom, keeping green mind. She think 1577 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 1: you ain't shot up that receion on time, brocause you 1578 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 1: called me a couple of times with it. You just 1579 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:43,720 Speaker 1: say that exclude don't stop it, don't do that, stop that, 1580 01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:56,439 Speaker 1: don't come on serious, that serious dominant finger. I to 1581 01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: save my tokens. If I just saved my tokens. Now 1582 01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 1: your seven Street, you know why I love to go 1583 01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 1: to Manhattan at that? Oh my god, y LL need 1584 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 1: to rewrite them. Buy you with me? Got me? I 1585 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:18,480 Speaker 1: can't be with that rable mans you know super Shakespeare 1586 01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 1: in slie version, y'all are you? But that's so funny. 1587 01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 1: That's what was my side of the Oh my god, 1588 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,160 Speaker 1: everyone have the old side of the check. But that 1589 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 1: where I was to know back then? You know that 1590 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 1: you know what the fucking MoMA che side she right? Now? 1591 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 1: Technology level the playing field with everything, right. I wish 1592 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:54,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't recorded every game be it the start difference, 1593 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, make itself look amazing. It's almost as 1594 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 1: if he thinks, somebody before the ship comes in the table, 1595 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm scary. Man's scary. It looks like he said, I 1596 01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:18,320 Speaker 1: have studio. Wait where you guys know. I'm gonna be honest. 1597 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,960 Speaker 1: I was really bu I really really, I was really glassed. 1598 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:29,160 Speaker 1: You know what it was not Listen, listen, Let's just 1599 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 1: be clear. It wasn't. I don't know. No matter how 1600 01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,439 Speaker 1: much I say this, it doesn't mean if it if 1601 01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:40,200 Speaker 1: it comes off in a crazy way. But Wayne's bridge 1602 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 1: was privileged, had bro nobody, nobody. Let me tell you 1603 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 1: something I have the same day, he said, the same day, 1604 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,240 Speaker 1: not a more report episode. Listen, this is the same 1605 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 1: not because now the this real brothers coming to I mean, 1606 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,439 Speaker 1: it's not a scripted politically correction. It's the same man. 1607 01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,840 Speaker 1: It's how we get him in the ship. Listen, go 1608 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 1: back a few episodes. The same man says, you know, 1609 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,920 Speaker 1: but Queen's reasoning his hate each oller. So when you 1610 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,560 Speaker 1: say we had this and that you call you. You 1611 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 1: obviously said in previous I love how you put oranges 1612 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,240 Speaker 1: and apples together. It's not gonna work, though, though. Let 1613 01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:26,880 Speaker 1: me just tell listen, it's just nose right used to 1614 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:31,559 Speaker 1: go to quez Queens because artists used to see Maddie 1615 01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,760 Speaker 1: see on the hill with other neighborhood you want to 1616 01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:39,280 Speaker 1: see Maddie see the guy who signed fucking Baggy Smalls 1617 01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,160 Speaker 1: and Marthy hanging out in the most drug infested corn 1618 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:49,599 Speaker 1: all right America. Because because because this is the time 1619 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 1: for Queens was now west, the artist wasn't necessarily being unified. 1620 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,760 Speaker 1: This is why a lot was going on because if 1621 01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,080 Speaker 1: I went that though, yeah, but but but that's the 1622 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,720 Speaker 1: reality of it, you know what I'm saying, Like I 1623 01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:06,080 Speaker 1: was surprised. I'm gonna say, there's a lot of things 1624 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,800 Speaker 1: happen because they were meant to happen because it was 1625 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 1: so much backstory ship going on that people don't know 1626 01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,679 Speaker 1: about that. And there's certain things I'm not gonna get 1627 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,960 Speaker 1: deeply into because of my technity level and what I am. 1628 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:21,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm you know, I'm a journalist as well, 1629 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna go too deep in certain things 1630 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 1: because we're friends, were family. But it was a lot 1631 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,679 Speaker 1: of behind the scenes ship going on that people didn't realize. 1632 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: And to me, if that weren't there. Things could have 1633 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 1: went different directions. They obviously went when it was supposed 1634 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,080 Speaker 1: to beat, but there was a lot of work because 1635 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at we're looking at working with 1636 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,599 Speaker 1: have but if I was ship going on with other 1637 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 1: people in his camp with my people, so to speak, 1638 01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 1: and no, Like that's why I gotta say, you know, 1639 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,599 Speaker 1: I gotta thank nas, thank you Bro. I gotta thank 1640 01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:00,720 Speaker 1: I gotta thank nwas for getting on calm down, all 1641 01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:05,000 Speaker 1: these things are moving punsh I gotta think having because 1642 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,920 Speaker 1: even with a lot of back ship, that ship going on, 1643 01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 1: brother hold on as far as brother, as far as 1644 01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,479 Speaker 1: us what he's kind of like, you know, his entourage 1645 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,519 Speaker 1: trying to speak, Yo, the bro still came through for me. 1646 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,800 Speaker 1: We asked them to guess And when you look at 1647 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 1: that in retrospect compared to now, that's an amazing thing 1648 01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 1: for this is to happen, It's amazing. Don't forget that, bro, 1649 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 1: because she could have gone. It could be a lot 1650 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: of alternate realities and in his front from people. Don't 1651 01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 1: forget that, like that ship was were apartment. You know 1652 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like she could have That's like how 1653 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 1: many times they have like the universe just came together. Now, 1654 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,800 Speaker 1: not to get too deep, but its reality, like all 1655 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 1: of these things going on that y'all don't even know about. 1656 01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 1: But they're still showing up. Got got feelings to its 1657 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 1: each other for deep ship, we're still showing up. That's 1658 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,839 Speaker 1: deep to me. That's beautiful because you got it's amazing, 1659 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:07,360 Speaker 1: right unless you behind the mask here? That was she 1660 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:14,080 Speaker 1: right and the preference I thought that was we're all wrong. 1661 01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,559 Speaker 1: She she kind of came up with that whole cursion. 1662 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember that story here, who's the trader? I'll 1663 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:36,720 Speaker 1: go all that, yeah, revealing, revealing right saying it's a 1664 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:42,040 Speaker 1: beautiful soul right here because because yeah, all right, So 1665 01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 1: by the way, this is this is what this is. 1666 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 1: This is what a lot of people don't know. One 1667 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:53,320 Speaker 1: we bagged Queen's bars niggas not to come into the 1668 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,439 Speaker 1: left right niggas picture. This is the one thing that 1669 01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:08,080 Speaker 1: us in both pictures this twenty is little secret. Uh 1670 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: you know know was in the VOCs is no brother 1671 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,840 Speaker 1: So that was a joke. The trader park that no room, 1672 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:27,280 Speaker 1: the trader part. He pulls the trader, you know, I 1673 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like you know what I'm saying. 1674 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,360 Speaker 1: Let's try. We took the picture. We said, everybody from 1675 01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 1: Q say, you stay on your QB side. Everybody from 1676 01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,040 Speaker 1: left back may surely you stay on the left back side. 1677 01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,719 Speaker 1: There's one person this whole thing that is in both 1678 01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm so glad no one knew this ship. I thought 1679 01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 1: this was I was one of the you know I was. 1680 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,680 Speaker 1: I went to the art director, you know I was. 1681 01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:02,840 Speaker 1: He say, vacation right there, a little no one else, 1682 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:08,920 Speaker 1: but you don't know what it is. Bottom g it's 1683 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:21,320 Speaker 1: your cousin, sir Bottom. Yes, yes, good, name's Wally. See Wally, 1684 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm creamy right in the middle. And then Wally all right, 1685 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:40,120 Speaker 1: keep me all right? So traded. Yes, it starts from there, 1686 01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:46,920 Speaker 1: starts the story. Yeah, it starts from their things. He's 1687 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:51,519 Speaker 1: the origin story. Let's go. So, what's the arch diirectic name? 1688 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 1: He went on, Eric, Eric, It's Erica the architect. The 1689 01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:02,679 Speaker 1: polls the more import um. He's very easy, he's don't 1690 01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 1: doing the stage, very good, very successful. It's really successful. 1691 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, he kept working with us just 1692 01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,840 Speaker 1: because of this. He was just like, yeah, I'm blown 1693 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 1: up and way beyond this down and will be y'all 1694 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,320 Speaker 1: messing with y'all. But I'm gonna still sunk with y'all 1695 01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:29,599 Speaker 1: because Eric. Eric. So what happened was after I came 1696 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,559 Speaker 1: to him and he showed me, he showed the picture, 1697 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,720 Speaker 1: someone from my hood took the stand. Oh, I don't 1698 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,800 Speaker 1: know if he took the stand on the word is 1699 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:44,120 Speaker 1: he snitched on that. I look at the inside of 1700 01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 1: my album cover. I'm like, wow, yeah, I can't do this. 1701 01:46:55,040 --> 01:47:00,440 Speaker 1: He should? We should? Wow? Eric? Was this mean what Wally? 1702 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:04,720 Speaker 1: He goes? Wally was in both pictures that we got 1703 01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:12,880 Speaker 1: bigger problems we eventually forgotten, but he said so we 1704 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,880 Speaker 1: we We was obviously it's just my fault. It was 1705 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,200 Speaker 1: give me, it's my problem. So they probably didn't reach 1706 01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,080 Speaker 1: you all at all. And he hit me and said, 1707 01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 1: why don't we sellow him out? And I was like, 1708 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,360 Speaker 1: sell a wet him out? And I was like, what 1709 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 1: does that mean? Like the like when they do the 1710 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 1: girls girls. He's like, yes, like that and I was 1711 01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 1: like a cool And then he sent me our image 1712 01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,680 Speaker 1: and it was like great at first. Then the next 1713 01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,280 Speaker 1: image was black and then the next image he sent 1714 01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,040 Speaker 1: it and he put snitch on it, and I was 1715 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 1: like damn, because we don't really know if he snitched. 1716 01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,960 Speaker 1: We know he gave up information, you know, but we 1717 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,760 Speaker 1: didn't know if he full fledg was dead. And then 1718 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,479 Speaker 1: they was like, all right, cool, So they said how 1719 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,040 Speaker 1: about Trader, and I was like, that's perfect, and we 1720 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:58,280 Speaker 1: went there and that was it. But we never actually 1721 01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:07,760 Speaker 1: corrected the real cousin. It's not this is just me 1722 01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,519 Speaker 1: and him is not right? You mean trying to call it? 1723 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:18,320 Speaker 1: What's it doing? Is going has going up? That's y'all. 1724 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm not it's never gonna right now. Crazy, we didn't know. Listen, 1725 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask y'all this whole time, I'm thinking, I'm singing, y'all, actress, 1726 01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:44,519 Speaker 1: I was no, you gonna remember remember no right you 1727 01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:49,600 Speaker 1: winding cloud. He took this very girl d do it 1728 01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 1: wrong and it all starts and how that's how it 1729 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,680 Speaker 1: looks you just starting everybody right? No, no, you just 1730 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:08,439 Speaker 1: try was jous Crazy said it was the original question. Yea, 1731 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:13,360 Speaker 1: when he tradized. I didn't meet with him because of 1732 01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 1: the trade. I met with him because he said, I 1733 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,280 Speaker 1: got a problem. You gotta remember, he's in the middle 1734 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,479 Speaker 1: of the hood, left back and Queens Ridge. I remember 1735 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,320 Speaker 1: he brought the sand because there was no sand. So 1736 01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,479 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of Quez which he's making sand 1737 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:41,680 Speaker 1: and Nicks isn't sitting around like a lot, So that's 1738 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,479 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not even sure if you got 1739 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,519 Speaker 1: to pick out the cn them pictures. I know you 1740 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,680 Speaker 1: guys to figure out promo pictures. I remember that. It's 1741 01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,719 Speaker 1: one of my favorite memories. Me and You're sitting around 1742 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,240 Speaker 1: with a nicheck picking out us with a nail on. 1743 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 1: We thought we was flying, that I was flying and 1744 01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:03,360 Speaker 1: got the favor races. Definitely was that shouts? So did 1745 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,240 Speaker 1: you did you get to pick out the worried pork pictures? 1746 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:07,880 Speaker 1: What you mean? I got to see the prototyest, but 1747 01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get the Actually, remember I was getting stickers 1748 01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,360 Speaker 1: on notebooks. They don't tell me you traded you saw 1749 01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:18,479 Speaker 1: that live or you knew that. I knew I was 1750 01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: physically there because you were when it was a metal system, right. Yeah, 1751 01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't know me up with the wily ship, but 1752 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,000 Speaker 1: that's my man. By the way, I did the ron 1753 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,120 Speaker 1: artest because I know the riches. I know the origin 1754 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 1: now being that, But I was getting all my promo 1755 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,800 Speaker 1: work or notebooks because you can't have stickers and jail. 1756 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,439 Speaker 1: It would send me a black and white notebook and 1757 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,439 Speaker 1: sent me proves to approve like you like this like this, Yeah, 1758 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:56,439 Speaker 1: so I had ten fifteen black and white notebooks and jail. 1759 01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:02,120 Speaker 1: Actually my prototype. You know what's crazy about you is 1760 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,840 Speaker 1: um And I didn't realize this to the other day. Um, 1761 01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,599 Speaker 1: like you were becoming a star, and as you became 1762 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 1: a star, you were I was just I was just 1763 01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,400 Speaker 1: saying that I'm talking a solo over school ball man 1764 01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,600 Speaker 1: so Cayron and ship that year he actually coming to 1765 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:23,640 Speaker 1: but he was like he was like your son, like 1766 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,880 Speaker 1: besides slick Ring, which is which is because slick Ring 1767 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,880 Speaker 1: made it. Then he went to jail. Poet is like 1768 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:35,280 Speaker 1: probably the first one making it in there and came 1769 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 1: home to the situation most dudes come home to a burnout. 1770 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 1: The career is over. He matter of fact, he is 1771 01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,719 Speaker 1: the first one. But when I describe with the burnout 1772 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:50,320 Speaker 1: is burnout is basically you're at your best, get locked 1773 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,880 Speaker 1: up and you come on when you find it out 1774 01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,280 Speaker 1: because you can't keep up with the pipeline. You know 1775 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I call it you know what 1776 01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, so he's the first nobody. Nobody even looks 1777 01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,559 Speaker 1: at that, he's the first one to do that because 1778 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,120 Speaker 1: I thought about Slick right too when when when Kyro 1779 01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 1: was talking to me solo, so going to me, I'm like, 1780 01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,759 Speaker 1: n slick Rink ain't even really do that because slick 1781 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,479 Speaker 1: Rink was made all me. Who wasn't the seventy made 1782 01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,840 Speaker 1: so that that to me, that was kind of all 1783 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:20,400 Speaker 1: like that makes it gives another interesting dynamic to his 1784 01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,479 Speaker 1: career because nobody else did that before. But how did 1785 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,080 Speaker 1: you how did you feel? Like it's the crazy thing 1786 01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:30,479 Speaker 1: though when the hour Dreil came that changed didn't changed 1787 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,839 Speaker 1: my whole life because it's started in jail. Like my success. 1788 01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,200 Speaker 1: His success started in the street. My started in jail. 1789 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:42,200 Speaker 1: The CEO start treating me different, the negat start treating 1790 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 1: there when bad. Both was you know like at the 1791 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's you know, same ship, but 1792 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,320 Speaker 1: you still felt the success in there. Yeah, because at 1793 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:57,840 Speaker 1: the end of it done this when I'm okay back 1794 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,280 Speaker 1: and for me as an end pay the label. So 1795 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,000 Speaker 1: so I didn't even know that that you had a case. 1796 01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:13,080 Speaker 1: So like we were little job, we kept out one 1797 01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:23,960 Speaker 1: two three. I'm sorry, he's gonna go away when you 1798 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,840 Speaker 1: help the process of instead take that chance. When he 1799 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,680 Speaker 1: was ready to get stay to take that chick here, 1800 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,760 Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't have that. It's like, we're gonna 1801 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,400 Speaker 1: take that chick. You girls going. You crashed your car 1802 01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:43,719 Speaker 1: on the house. We got out in car and still 1803 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,360 Speaker 1: made it to my car, brand new Infinity at that time. 1804 01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,600 Speaker 1: So how did you find out? Was he ejail? No, 1805 01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't a jail. It was like a weekly he said, 1806 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:13,240 Speaker 1: so likeway everybody at least fried. But I didn't know 1807 01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:17,160 Speaker 1: what was going on. So so finally, you know, you know, 1808 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,360 Speaker 1: he's being sentenced. So I was going to court. I'll 1809 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,040 Speaker 1: never get in this day. So I smashed my car, 1810 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,880 Speaker 1: got in a cab, made it to the courthouse, left 1811 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 1: the car and left the car away. Show up. I 1812 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,720 Speaker 1: show up and there's this judge, his gray haired guy, 1813 01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:42,720 Speaker 1: it's like really conservative guy, and um, you know, and 1814 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 1: he's ready to be sentenced. And I said, excuse me, 1815 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,960 Speaker 1: uh you know, the attorney said, here's someone that wants 1816 01:54:51,040 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 1: to DRUGA five money's levin. I'm a was the kidding. 1817 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:10,480 Speaker 1: He's part of the Capon area, A wrap room. I said, yes, 1818 01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,880 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you know they wrapped and um so, 1819 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,000 Speaker 1: so I pleaded to him, I said, you know, we're 1820 01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:24,680 Speaker 1: finishing up the War Report album because we need to 1821 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:29,480 Speaker 1: we need to shoot a video. Was still finishing the 1822 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:33,200 Speaker 1: record and so so we gave us more time. Then 1823 01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,080 Speaker 1: the judge got sick, so one week turned into what 1824 01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,920 Speaker 1: like months months, like three months later, so we're able 1825 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,560 Speaker 1: to finish the bulk of the album where to shoot 1826 01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:49,840 Speaker 1: the video. But it was just crazy. It's crazy, crazy time. 1827 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,400 Speaker 1: So see here we are twenty five years later talking 1828 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:59,040 Speaker 1: about this. It's a classic. I don't know. Hello, Look, 1829 01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,640 Speaker 1: I want to run. The realist Hollywood would change everything 1830 01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,880 Speaker 1: was when MTV came to jail to interview me when 1831 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:10,200 Speaker 1: he trapped n O r E. That changed my life 1832 01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,560 Speaker 1: bro like like they didn't believe me, Like they didn't 1833 01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,480 Speaker 1: believe until it was real, like when pop they knew pop. 1834 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,000 Speaker 1: So when MTV came to interview pocket was nothing big. 1835 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 1: But imagine the nigga like me that got an underground 1836 01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 1: album that niggas is hearing niggas by the cassents, but 1837 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,280 Speaker 1: an EMTI motherfucker me come to the jail. I was 1838 01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,600 Speaker 1: a year later, I was two pot a year and 1839 01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,720 Speaker 1: a half later the niggative interview. The first time was 1840 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,320 Speaker 1: pop thinking to anybody. The second time was Jail Collins. 1841 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:50,160 Speaker 1: Jail was a max. He was a medium, not that ship. 1842 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:54,960 Speaker 1: Way different, way different. That's when Neil let me call 1843 01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:59,240 Speaker 1: it thirty times a day and I could call right 1844 01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 1: right Jay man. You know, you know that you know 1845 01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,960 Speaker 1: what it was like. You know that the Afro man. 1846 01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:13,840 Speaker 1: You know. I ain't know that something that For some reason, 1847 01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,800 Speaker 1: when I remember, I remember me first meeting Deferred do 1848 01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,760 Speaker 1: you and my friend d boss And I can't remember 1849 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,600 Speaker 1: whether it was you who told me to go to 1850 01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:29,240 Speaker 1: the Deferred and get the shirts or was it the 1851 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,600 Speaker 1: boss so told me to get the shirts and you 1852 01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,040 Speaker 1: co signed and said, yo, that's the pretty good to go. 1853 01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:42,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was the first. I thought it was 1854 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,800 Speaker 1: um the black and yellow four or four shirts, but 1855 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 1: did not realize no, so it had to be after 1856 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 1: components in jail. It was, it was, it was, it 1857 01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:54,680 Speaker 1: was after, but it was like I forgot, I gave up. 1858 01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,960 Speaker 1: I think I was talking at you and Carolin about 1859 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 1: it because Calin just took over marketing or something, because 1860 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,560 Speaker 1: also I was crazy. Was we had got penalty hoodies 1861 01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:07,120 Speaker 1: made and deferred made those two. Okay, that's what it was. 1862 01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,240 Speaker 1: Then I think, okay, he made those. That was the 1863 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:13,400 Speaker 1: that was he think that was the first right? Yeah? 1864 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:21,080 Speaker 1: Question for gas station? Yeah, Willie Bergers, what was up 1865 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:24,600 Speaker 1: up the block to the left A fact, that's what 1866 01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 1: y'all did? That scene from paying them full at did 1867 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:33,560 Speaker 1: Now we did that on one f three. Unless we did, 1868 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:38,000 Speaker 1: y'all don't want to funk with us right there video, 1869 01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:53,280 Speaker 1: So okay, now that's what we're on. Boom noil Martin, 1870 01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:59,440 Speaker 1: I imagine Martin and made him telling you because somehow 1871 01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:04,600 Speaker 1: I tried to probably contested this. I have no idea 1872 01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:08,720 Speaker 1: what happened with till on way we threw it out. 1873 01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:11,440 Speaker 1: I did not feel like the record reacted. But this 1874 01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,760 Speaker 1: is me talking to you now. I was the experienced 1875 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,880 Speaker 1: person that knows how a record is supposed to react. 1876 01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:20,520 Speaker 1: But back then I did not feel like, like the 1877 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:25,360 Speaker 1: records so done. But then I don't know where people 1878 01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 1: saying they're hitting people to tunnel over yea in the 1879 01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:35,000 Speaker 1: head with till Till and why right, because this is 1880 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,480 Speaker 1: how it felt to me. I'm outside of looking in 1881 01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 1: you guys, are actually the analytical people, but holding it 1882 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:42,680 Speaker 1: doesn't me try to make my point and then you 1883 01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:46,240 Speaker 1: you're tearing in. It felt like there was months set 1884 01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,760 Speaker 1: with Bob with til I was actually playing, but it 1885 01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 1: wasn't muthy where by Way actually was successful as a record. 1886 01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:58,440 Speaker 1: Then it actually became successful and it fell regional because 1887 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,600 Speaker 1: we had no internet, We had no we had no 1888 02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,880 Speaker 1: idea that what was going on on the other shop 1889 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:05,560 Speaker 1: or in North count In order for it to get 1890 02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:09,920 Speaker 1: back into the time, it took means to travel to 1891 02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:12,760 Speaker 1: be like, wait a minute, maybe I do have when 1892 02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:15,720 Speaker 1: we do have something right when it was was the 1893 02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:19,320 Speaker 1: time that you guys knew that maybe this maybe we 1894 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,520 Speaker 1: have something to remember We were going to release another 1895 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:26,960 Speaker 1: record right right close right to this, but before all 1896 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:33,320 Speaker 1: of that we had an internal office like close up 1897 02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:40,040 Speaker 1: or you have to have predominantly most of the albumsbut 1898 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the video um so. But then there was um um 1899 02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:49,960 Speaker 1: and Marie Emery was written like and she was like, 1900 02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:53,360 Speaker 1: if y'all go closely, you're gonna kill them. She's like, 1901 02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,000 Speaker 1: that record is crazy that y'all need to go with 1902 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,040 Speaker 1: you and with why she was adamant about it. She 1903 02:00:57,120 --> 02:01:02,040 Speaker 1: was so told me a woman. Wo yes, a woman 1904 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:12,160 Speaker 1: pick got because you were really even really thinking and 1905 02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,960 Speaker 1: then when when she started it totally made sense of 1906 02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:19,000 Speaker 1: y'all with with what we was really trying to up 1907 02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 1: and summed up what they weren't in and like in 1908 02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,040 Speaker 1: the process of making that record, you know, making it 1909 02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:26,240 Speaker 1: with you know Nashima or that the whole part you 1910 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,000 Speaker 1: know it was Tope, like you know they knew how 1911 02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:30,920 Speaker 1: to make records. That you brought that seam to the table, right. 1912 02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:35,440 Speaker 1: But if you listen to t Y and you hear 1913 02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:38,360 Speaker 1: in the background rest in peace, that was my bomber. 1914 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:44,000 Speaker 1: I went to cutties one day on Passes the Hillside 1915 02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:45,560 Speaker 1: and I was getting the head cut. I was in 1916 02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the chair and we had a session right before that 1917 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,360 Speaker 1: to go to hit um h hit What was that 1918 02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:57,480 Speaker 1: shot high factory? No no, no, no, no back So 1919 02:01:57,640 --> 02:02:00,400 Speaker 1: boom I was getting a haircut, resting he's my man 1920 02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Sean Brown. He started saying something anything that crazy old 1921 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:08,160 Speaker 1: school I ain't no by the Garlige kid ship while 1922 02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,840 Speaker 1: he cut my head and I'm like, and I just 1923 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:16,600 Speaker 1: heard him going hello, So I'll said, yo, come to 1924 02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:22,240 Speaker 1: the studio and say this. In the background, He's like what, 1925 02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,600 Speaker 1: and I said, but we did it. Remember he came in, 1926 02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:28,960 Speaker 1: but I wanted to soul road that. You can't really 1927 02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:31,440 Speaker 1: make out what he was said. Remember, and I gotta 1928 02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:34,720 Speaker 1: thank Dr Dre because Dr Dre gave me that, Like, 1929 02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:38,760 Speaker 1: let me start putting moving prost. It sounds in the music. 1930 02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,400 Speaker 1: So then my little man was like, yo, son, I 1931 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:47,440 Speaker 1: ran to his violin. Who so he's like, Yo, you 1932 02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:50,080 Speaker 1: gotta listen to this ship. I tried, don't you claiming 1933 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:59,160 Speaker 1: the violinist? No, no, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen, 1934 02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:05,840 Speaker 1: little chill time about that, because you want to take 1935 02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:18,920 Speaker 1: it if you didn't write every kick everything, you didn't 1936 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:31,680 Speaker 1: write everything, I want to right, listen Jesus. Well, So look, 1937 02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:41,120 Speaker 1: so so she was talker not see put the violet? 1938 02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah she put that in the violet. Yeah, but were 1939 02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:47,440 Speaker 1: just throwing it around like yo, my man could know 1940 02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:51,160 Speaker 1: what was Agent two five? It was Asian two five, 1941 02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:54,720 Speaker 1: little like so, but he had a great contept. Yeah, 1942 02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm not listen, I'm telling truth, man, I ain't taking 1943 02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 1: up from nobody because I've got minds. I've put minds 1944 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:02,000 Speaker 1: in out. It was Agent two five. That was my 1945 02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,720 Speaker 1: little man, said, your son of mental ranch on violinists, 1946 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you know people that played instruments on the train agent 1947 02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:11,360 Speaker 1: two fives to the violinist. So I said, why are 1948 02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,440 Speaker 1: you why you He was like, I don't know violets ill. 1949 02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:16,440 Speaker 1: So we spoke to that she and not she put 1950 02:04:16,480 --> 02:04:20,840 Speaker 1: that in me. That's facts you not she on the phone. Yeah, 1951 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:27,120 Speaker 1: but you under puffy. It was producers. His mindset and 1952 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:30,120 Speaker 1: making records was crazy. So that was an experience within itself. 1953 02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:37,600 Speaker 1: Like he didn't know if she was. Yeah, that was 1954 02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:47,640 Speaker 1: not that obviously downtown. Yeah, what studio was that with? 1955 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Then why all that radio at that point, right, because 1956 02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:53,280 Speaker 1: it is the opposite of you didn't have that. You 1957 02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:55,720 Speaker 1: didn't have you know, Internet, you didn't have you know. 1958 02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,040 Speaker 1: So okay, we have to shoot a video and we 1959 02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:00,560 Speaker 1: got to get it on radio. It was service. We 1960 02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:04,080 Speaker 1: serviced radio. It's like no, it's like, we can't play 1961 02:05:04,120 --> 02:05:07,040 Speaker 1: this record. And so it took a one. I mean 1962 02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:11,280 Speaker 1: shows played it, right, So so the video played, but 1963 02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:17,600 Speaker 1: it took a one. Main commercials commercially was crazy commercial. 1964 02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:21,919 Speaker 1: How you were commercial before that? It was way commercial? 1965 02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:24,120 Speaker 1: But she was she but she was like, yo, this 1966 02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:27,040 Speaker 1: is these guys right, and like, if y'all go with this, 1967 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna take them out of the zone. Like so 1968 02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,520 Speaker 1: I I was like, this is it right, let's let's 1969 02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:33,880 Speaker 1: you know the reason why I signed you guys, because 1970 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 1: because of that reason, like we wanted to see it 1971 02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,240 Speaker 1: when why that's what we wanted and that set the tone. 1972 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:42,080 Speaker 1: But then you're taking and you're figuring out, this is 1973 02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:46,280 Speaker 1: how we get the radio ultimately this happening closer. That's 1974 02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:49,720 Speaker 1: that's what I mean. That's what I mean. That's why 1975 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:52,360 Speaker 1: when I had that day it was a claw kim Bergeon. Correct, 1976 02:05:52,600 --> 02:06:01,520 Speaker 1: that's why that's right. Remake that afterwards. Remember I need 1977 02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:04,800 Speaker 1: even going with that, We're trying to work so hard. 1978 02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:08,320 Speaker 1: You got to work at a bunch of like probably 1979 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:18,839 Speaker 1: up probably not records Up. I had the false Compora 1980 02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:27,000 Speaker 1: do that record, don't love poem Poe did because class 1981 02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,160 Speaker 1: But you said, this needs to be you. That's who 1982 02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you are? Yeah like that, No, not like that slam 1983 02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Come on, I ain't the word puma just just throughout 1984 02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 1: making the record, I mean, it was so much drama 1985 02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:45,880 Speaker 1: and it was to the record today and you really 1986 02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:50,280 Speaker 1: get it and it's a special record. It's really you guys. Factor. 1987 02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Commercial records like commercial success did were closer, you thought 1988 02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,680 Speaker 1: hustle if you were to win closer, let the label 1989 02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,240 Speaker 1: saying we need a radio it was the label, No 1990 02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm the r. But what the thing is like? Right? 1991 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,960 Speaker 1: So the balance is this, right, So you gotta like 1992 02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:13,280 Speaker 1: the the artist has a vision. And when you came 1993 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,680 Speaker 1: to me with a vision, it's like, all right, this 1994 02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:17,040 Speaker 1: is what we're gonna try to see through. Right. But 1995 02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:19,080 Speaker 1: then there's also like all right, yeah, we want some 1996 02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:21,320 Speaker 1: commercial success. We're gonna try to take this record. That's 1997 02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,080 Speaker 1: why we did a lot of those remixes. But the 1998 02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:24,760 Speaker 1: thing that when it came, we came back to the 1999 02:07:24,840 --> 02:07:27,360 Speaker 1: core of what's seeing it was and that's what went why. 2000 02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:29,600 Speaker 1: And that's what she called out when she said that 2001 02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:33,080 Speaker 1: that needs a lot of sense. And then that's what 2002 02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:36,400 Speaker 1: we went with why and that said the tone to 2003 02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,040 Speaker 1: sign the artist. Right now, I'm not going with you 2004 02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:45,840 Speaker 1: on but but listen that that was the time, That 2005 02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:47,600 Speaker 1: was the time that there was a time and place 2006 02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:49,800 Speaker 1: for that. But that's probably why would work because you 2007 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:54,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't we talking about you know, it's it's it's it's 2008 02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,640 Speaker 1: one million percent correct because what I'm trying to say, 2009 02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:59,680 Speaker 1: is the thing about penalty? What makes penalty and I 2010 02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,080 Speaker 1: want to give it to a penalty in its totality 2011 02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:06,320 Speaker 1: is that it had to be you guys together sitting 2012 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:10,920 Speaker 1: there and saying that trag is happy, and you stopped 2013 02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:13,040 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, it's happy for getting us out 2014 02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,760 Speaker 1: the hood, like y'all fucking you know what, maybe if 2015 02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:17,880 Speaker 1: we pick a wrong record or not, but if you 2016 02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:20,840 Speaker 1: get them out of the hood, that's a success. Me. 2017 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:23,520 Speaker 1: If I get out of the hood, that's a success. You, 2018 02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:25,839 Speaker 1: if you get out of the hood, that's a success. 2019 02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,400 Speaker 1: What What What made y'all say let's keep it real 2020 02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:34,280 Speaker 1: with the hood? Because easily, like right now, if I 2021 02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,480 Speaker 1: have a find an artist right now and she or 2022 02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:41,240 Speaker 1: he wants to go away with the commercial success that 2023 02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:47,120 Speaker 1: I could identify with personally me, I know what Super Dug, 2024 02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:49,720 Speaker 1: did I know what I even Kindle? Did I know 2025 02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:52,360 Speaker 1: what Homeboy? Did? I know what certain records did, Funk 2026 02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:54,600 Speaker 1: with us did for me. But I don't know what 2027 02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,160 Speaker 1: this record can do. But you said the key word, 2028 02:08:57,200 --> 02:09:01,640 Speaker 1: did right? Think about that? That's sound? That sounded sound. 2029 02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:04,280 Speaker 1: It was a translation. We heard that record and we 2030 02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:07,480 Speaker 1: came to Miamie to do that record. Right, you wait 2031 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,280 Speaker 1: until I get to Miamie to do that record. That 2032 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:18,440 Speaker 1: was the main focus because to me that wasn't that 2033 02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:22,320 Speaker 1: was traditional underground New York. But we did that traditional 2034 02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:25,400 Speaker 1: underground New York and went for ads and well, well 2035 02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:27,400 Speaker 1: the thing is in my background and around the club 2036 02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I had in w A and Easy and all these 2037 02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and all were concerned. We were trying to turn you 2038 02:09:36,200 --> 02:09:41,480 Speaker 1: into something that that's mad important. I want to shave 2039 02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:45,200 Speaker 1: it again. When I said, he just brought up the 2040 02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:48,280 Speaker 1: whole scenario. When I went into the office, you had 2041 02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,480 Speaker 1: to go in the conference room was in the back. 2042 02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:53,720 Speaker 1: He caught me in the conference from first. You guys 2043 02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:56,480 Speaker 1: came in later and when you came in and dog 2044 02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,040 Speaker 1: the stereos right here and the tables here, no to 2045 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:01,840 Speaker 1: get because I went around to the end of the table. 2046 02:10:02,680 --> 02:10:05,280 Speaker 1: This motherfucking guy for me now man, because he was 2047 02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: always coming and I'd be like, damn, no, I don't, 2048 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't. But later on a lot of those things 2049 02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:13,200 Speaker 1: turn out the work out. But I didn't see that vision. 2050 02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:15,880 Speaker 1: But when he said we want to go with I 2051 02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:18,840 Speaker 1: didn't choose that single. But when they said but he said, 2052 02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:20,600 Speaker 1: they want to go into and why I was like, yo, 2053 02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:26,640 Speaker 1: they understand because while you're making the project, you know, 2054 02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:30,440 Speaker 1: like I didn't see everything until I heard it in 2055 02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:34,440 Speaker 1: the body. I don't know if that's making sex. Like yeah, 2056 02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,040 Speaker 1: the head and told it. I had to hear the 2057 02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:37,840 Speaker 1: body to know. I you know what I'm saying. Like, 2058 02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:41,480 Speaker 1: when you're doing a project, some people go in they 2059 02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, they specifically make this type of single for that, 2060 02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:50,000 Speaker 1: Like we were making a project like we're talking about before. Yeah, 2061 02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:56,960 Speaker 1: it was like you embrace SNOOP, you embraced DMX, you 2062 02:10:57,080 --> 02:11:01,120 Speaker 1: embraced POT because they bring you into their world. When 2063 02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:03,000 Speaker 1: you do a body of work and you're bringing the 2064 02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,760 Speaker 1: people into your world where you formulate and set up singles, 2065 02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:09,600 Speaker 1: you're catering a little more to them, and it could work. 2066 02:11:10,440 --> 02:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Your lifespan may be different. It depending on what your 2067 02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:15,720 Speaker 1: goal is. You may want to beg I'm make a 2068 02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:17,680 Speaker 1: formulate and get it. I don't know what your goal is. 2069 02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:20,080 Speaker 1: But when you make your body at work, it becomes 2070 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:23,960 Speaker 1: a timeless peace because within that body of work, you 2071 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:27,760 Speaker 1: identify with who you are. You give the world a 2072 02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:31,520 Speaker 1: piece of yourself. That's why That's why I respectfully. And 2073 02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying this some people. I love Biggie Man. 2074 02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:37,960 Speaker 1: That was a new biggie. I didn't know pop, but 2075 02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:41,600 Speaker 1: they both taught me something. Pot gave you a piece 2076 02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:44,440 Speaker 1: of his roner abilities. I believe big an't really have 2077 02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:47,480 Speaker 1: enough time to give you all of himself. He had 2078 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:51,160 Speaker 1: a great influence over him Puff, but yet it's still 2079 02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:54,360 Speaker 1: it was an influence, so you didn't really get all 2080 02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:57,840 Speaker 1: of big Pop was kind of like a low at times. 2081 02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:00,240 Speaker 1: So you got on the Pot. And I think we 2082 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:03,120 Speaker 1: just to relate it to and why to what I 2083 02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:05,440 Speaker 1: always tell an artist, I need to hear a song 2084 02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:10,400 Speaker 1: that identifies you till till why was their? I d 2085 02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:15,160 Speaker 1: like the fucking driver's license and identified everything. It was 2086 02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,920 Speaker 1: a total sum of everything that makes sense. That's what 2087 02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I wanted. It wouldn't work on a commercial or the 2088 02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:31,240 Speaker 1: major record, no record label, just like protect your Neck 2089 02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:34,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked to any worldasion. I got a question 2090 02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:37,680 Speaker 1: for you, Trash, real quick. Hearing you talk, hearing the 2091 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,200 Speaker 1: passion that you talk. Even when these records first came out, 2092 02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Look this record right here, in particular, it was your 2093 02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:47,440 Speaker 1: record right It felt like you were ushering in Compona Oriega, 2094 02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I was that was that was what I had hearing everything. 2095 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Did you feel compon Origo was component Oriegan tragedy? Was 2096 02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:57,040 Speaker 1: that really a group in your mind? I did. I 2097 02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:58,960 Speaker 1: did feel that way at the time because I feel 2098 02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:02,400 Speaker 1: like I had make up for him. I felt like 2099 02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I had to cover for him because he wasn't listening. 2100 02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you gotta, you gotta You're about to 2101 02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:11,120 Speaker 1: go in. I'm dead ass man. You gotta go in 2102 02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:13,840 Speaker 1: and do some songs because it's gonna just you. It 2103 02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:16,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't matter will not being seen an album. It's gonna 2104 02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,960 Speaker 1: be a Norri album. He's working. You gotta go in 2105 02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:21,880 Speaker 1: and do some son That's why it was hard. But 2106 02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,640 Speaker 1: he wounded up doing capon Ball, but he he probably 2107 02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:27,320 Speaker 1: might not did that. His mom was. He knew he 2108 02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:30,080 Speaker 1: had to go do time, and he was just yeah 2109 02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:32,520 Speaker 1: he had. If he had been here, you would have 2110 02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:36,000 Speaker 1: taken more of the executive role, totally totally, but him 2111 02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:39,720 Speaker 1: going keep it greeting. I didn't want around, it want around, 2112 02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:45,280 Speaker 1: but I'm glad because I had to. You wouldn't do 2113 02:13:45,360 --> 02:14:02,280 Speaker 1: one good came down some time. No, that's the deep 2114 02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:04,600 Speaker 1: question it was, and it was it was it was 2115 02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:09,000 Speaker 1: it was put Cooney, That's what I said. Dan. It's 2116 02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of like he's like, it's kind of good for me, 2117 02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:16,440 Speaker 1: you know. But by the time I signed CNN, and 2118 02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time already, but 2119 02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in my career, it's probably the most special project that 2120 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I've ever been associated with. And that's why we're here. 2121 02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Uh and you listen to it now. I was in 2122 02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the studio a few weeks ago and with a bunch 2123 02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:32,320 Speaker 1: of drill rappers and and they're talking about their ship, 2124 02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:34,000 Speaker 1: and I said, you got to hear the War of Recourse. 2125 02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:43,760 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, so I'm really proud of 2126 02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:46,960 Speaker 1: you guys, and proud to be talking about this twenty 2127 02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:49,600 Speaker 1: five years later. It's amazing to me what we're proud 2128 02:14:49,640 --> 02:14:52,400 Speaker 1: of you guys were actually did you guys was a 2129 02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:56,240 Speaker 1: part of our journey, My journey, all of our journey, 2130 02:14:56,280 --> 02:14:58,000 Speaker 1: and we want to give you all y'all flowers in 2131 02:14:58,160 --> 02:15:07,160 Speaker 1: y'all y'all bag pretty come on, come on, I want 2132 02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:10,280 Speaker 1: to stay that you get mine. You know, as I 2133 02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:12,960 Speaker 1: look back and things, I might have been a little 2134 02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:15,000 Speaker 1: rough friend of Edges, but I gotta beat now. I'm 2135 02:15:15,040 --> 02:15:21,880 Speaker 1: serious man, I want to buy ship. You're gonna be there. 2136 02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:29,839 Speaker 1: You on service, brother, Oh that's what stuff? Okay, flowers 2137 02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:42,560 Speaker 1: you know you and you know I'm gonna be completed. 2138 02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,080 Speaker 1: We didn't get her out to the one that gets 2139 02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:53,080 Speaker 1: flowers to my man. I don't like to think about 2140 02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:57,560 Speaker 1: but you know, you know, I just want to say something, um, 2141 02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:03,920 Speaker 1: because this whole and he is beautiful for me, you know, 2142 02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:08,120 Speaker 1: even even the spa scrimping seas and scrimping, you know, 2143 02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:10,640 Speaker 1: all that ship, all that ship. Like if I thought 2144 02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:15,320 Speaker 1: about it the other day, and I probably wouldn't change 2145 02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:19,560 Speaker 1: much like if I said, you'll do it all over again, 2146 02:16:21,680 --> 02:16:30,000 Speaker 1: I would change the two things. If if in retrospect, 2147 02:16:30,120 --> 02:16:33,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what all the champs it brought us here, 2148 02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:37,600 Speaker 1: it brought up for this happy woman. That's why today tragic. 2149 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:41,400 Speaker 1: You know I might have called you today. Why don't 2150 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I have a called any grown man my life? Okay? 2151 02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:51,800 Speaker 1: And it's because one I do listen to the fans. 2152 02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:54,520 Speaker 1: And sometimes when I listen to the fans and the 2153 02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:56,840 Speaker 1: fast and we'll say something like the Worrid for why 2154 02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:59,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna you know, pick up the Worrid for 2155 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:03,480 Speaker 1: without thinking love track you know the war report is 2156 02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:11,800 Speaker 1: in it's your babies, thanks, and it's everyone's baby here. 2157 02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:17,879 Speaker 1: Actually the parents unarrest sounds a little crazy, Okay, I'm 2158 02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:23,600 Speaker 1: like little, so little, It's okay, it's all right, But 2159 02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:29,960 Speaker 1: it's also everyone's you know. Um, I listened to it 2160 02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:32,960 Speaker 1: the other day, Listen to it today, listen to it. 2161 02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:38,800 Speaker 1: And it's really a masterpiece. It's really a classics, really 2162 02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:42,560 Speaker 1: something that stood out to the test of time. And 2163 02:17:42,720 --> 02:17:45,360 Speaker 1: what's funny is hell about it. It's when I made 2164 02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:53,520 Speaker 1: it out when we collectively because if I say that ship, 2165 02:17:57,200 --> 02:18:00,560 Speaker 1: so I'm saying it together because that's because I'm talking. 2166 02:18:01,720 --> 02:18:06,520 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is when you was really I 2167 02:18:06,760 --> 02:18:12,640 Speaker 1: really despised this guy named and it wasn't nothing personally, 2168 02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:17,560 Speaker 1: it was he was representing the exact opposite he would representing. 2169 02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:26,760 Speaker 1: We were thirty tims, scuffed, come under the tap, kicking 2170 02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:39,879 Speaker 1: judges and they notices shooting. Hey manna, I'm waiting. Then 2171 02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:44,360 Speaker 1: here's this, here's this guy's exact opposite. And for us 2172 02:18:44,440 --> 02:18:47,560 Speaker 1: to come back twenty five years later and to be 2173 02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:51,960 Speaker 1: sitting here with the people behind the scenes, people whatever 2174 02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:54,080 Speaker 1: was in front of the scenes, people that lived the 2175 02:18:54,160 --> 02:18:57,760 Speaker 1: scenes us said, you know, be able to sit here 2176 02:18:57,800 --> 02:19:01,600 Speaker 1: and have drinks. It's a beautiful thing. Life goes on 2177 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:06,080 Speaker 1: to beat Martin's son that to be I would like 2178 02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:10,040 Speaker 1: to meet your wife oficially his wife. Finally, this is 2179 02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:13,920 Speaker 1: beautiful that this is this is actually grown man ship 2180 02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and it's not what it's not what we signed up 2181 02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:25,640 Speaker 1: for everyone for their own self. You know, this is 2182 02:19:25,680 --> 02:19:28,720 Speaker 1: why this show Drink Champ is so beautiful is because 2183 02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:31,640 Speaker 1: it's not really about me and yeah, finish about giving 2184 02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:34,680 Speaker 1: everyone else and for us to sit down right now. 2185 02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:37,720 Speaker 1: This is just a beautiful moment. Amazing. It's amazing that 2186 02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:40,160 Speaker 1: I personally made these phone calls like a not too 2187 02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:43,360 Speaker 1: high bro. There's not one person that can say, yo, 2188 02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:47,160 Speaker 1: you know what? Um. You know, I called everyone individually. 2189 02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I wanted everyone to be here, and I wanted everyone 2190 02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:52,560 Speaker 1: to get their flowers. You know what y'all actually are 2191 02:19:52,640 --> 02:19:57,240 Speaker 1: getting because it's really uh, if it wasn't for Mayhem. 2192 02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Mayhem is, in my most famous skit ever, a solid 2193 02:20:03,640 --> 02:20:07,000 Speaker 1: dude man. Man. He was a solid dude man, always sad. 2194 02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm listening, you know, been a part of it. Geno 2195 02:20:13,240 --> 02:20:14,880 Speaker 1: has been a part of it. The Gino went on 2196 02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:18,560 Speaker 1: and you know, helped discover asap rocket And I said 2197 02:20:18,560 --> 02:20:22,440 Speaker 1: it in front of a sap rocket. Appreciate that, uh 2198 02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:27,320 Speaker 1: Neil as much things if you you you've done, mar 2199 02:20:27,400 --> 02:20:29,560 Speaker 1: and as much things as you've done. And and trash 2200 02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:32,120 Speaker 1: and one of one have triple bypass surgery or something 2201 02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:35,240 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but I had a serious surgery. I 2202 02:20:35,320 --> 02:20:39,160 Speaker 1: had serious Look good man, look good brother had ver 2203 02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:48,240 Speaker 1: cancer and I did it, so shot man. And so 2204 02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:50,960 Speaker 1: what I want to say is, um, but hold up. 2205 02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:56,640 Speaker 1: We you and e FN met because of penalty. I 2206 02:20:56,720 --> 02:20:59,760 Speaker 1: didn't know that. I was actually think of taking a 2207 02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:04,320 Speaker 1: calls you get him through the phone. Don't tell me this, 2208 02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:07,160 Speaker 1: don't Yes, well that's your book. He was trying to 2209 02:21:07,320 --> 02:21:09,119 Speaker 1: he was he was trying to get records and book 2210 02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,640 Speaker 1: a show. But that was after actually that was right 2211 02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:14,680 Speaker 1: after I met him. Yeah, but remember when they when 2212 02:21:14,720 --> 02:21:17,000 Speaker 1: you first came, I was like, yo, you need to 2213 02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:21,520 Speaker 1: get with it. To add to that, because I wanted 2214 02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:24,560 Speaker 1: that story. Is ill I met, I met you and 2215 02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:27,000 Speaker 1: you came to my store. It was you were on 2216 02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:31,120 Speaker 1: the interpend the promoter CNN and Poe was locked up 2217 02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:34,680 Speaker 1: and and and Phill the mayor promoting local promoter brought 2218 02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:36,040 Speaker 1: them because you know, back then you had to go 2219 02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:38,360 Speaker 1: to do in stores when you're doing doing runs in 2220 02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:40,080 Speaker 1: the club. And I was one of the few. We 2221 02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:42,480 Speaker 1: had Crazy Goods, one of the few hip hop stores 2222 02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:49,520 Speaker 1: and putting on the shirt Crazy he the shirt and 2223 02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:52,440 Speaker 1: then then I called penalty because I was like, I 2224 02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:54,480 Speaker 1: gotta get down with these dudes because y'all show much 2225 02:21:54,480 --> 02:21:56,879 Speaker 1: stub and and then HA did that phone call. Yeah, 2226 02:21:56,959 --> 02:21:59,120 Speaker 1: it was funny because it was new that, you know, 2227 02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:02,640 Speaker 1: I was always taking a poem called some poem, always 2228 02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:06,040 Speaker 1: called and when his ship run out, boom, you know 2229 02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:08,040 Speaker 1: his bangy, you're gonna call you back in five minutes. 2230 02:22:08,840 --> 02:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Then I got fool, he's still so he called the 2231 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,920 Speaker 1: E F F coll and I was like, just hey, 2232 02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,800 Speaker 1: poem and I was like, yeah, who's this And then 2233 02:22:24,959 --> 02:22:27,320 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, I'm a DJ. No, just me 2234 02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:30,800 Speaker 1: just being me. We just connected over the phone and 2235 02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:35,000 Speaker 1: whenever he needed records, he wanted freestyles, and he was like, 2236 02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:36,520 Speaker 1: y'all want to book a show, and I was like, 2237 02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:40,280 Speaker 1: fuck it, We're gonna make it happen, which went through Viola. 2238 02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,000 Speaker 1: No look that show book was your first n R 2239 02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:48,120 Speaker 1: show out here. Yeah, and it was through Violator and 2240 02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:51,840 Speaker 1: then the White Lady. They called me a week before 2241 02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:54,760 Speaker 1: and said someone else was trying to book him. I 2242 02:22:54,879 --> 02:22:58,840 Speaker 1: just set the deposit that someone else was called and 2243 02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I was like, hell, I just said, my motherfuck deposit, 2244 02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:13,240 Speaker 1: we're doing this shop. That was But she always took 2245 02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,200 Speaker 1: care of me. Martin always took care of me. The 2246 02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,280 Speaker 1: whole team took care of me. Always been Martin. I 2247 02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:19,160 Speaker 1: know that I was always blowing you up for freestyles 2248 02:23:19,240 --> 02:23:22,000 Speaker 1: and and and everything that I did, the phone home 2249 02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,280 Speaker 1: show that you guys had me take care of here 2250 02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:26,840 Speaker 1: in Miami, that she was ill. It's always been a family. 2251 02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:30,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, he was always shouldn't really be connected, you know, 2252 02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:33,440 Speaker 1: she wouldn't be down the lane over to be like 2253 02:23:33,560 --> 02:23:37,320 Speaker 1: NAS albums. Wait, I mean, for me, it's really full 2254 02:23:37,360 --> 02:23:41,720 Speaker 1: circle to see this right now, it's just amazing. It's 2255 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:45,760 Speaker 1: just I agree. I mean at the War Report lives 2256 02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:50,400 Speaker 1: on and let's live Stone, yeah, and then look at 2257 02:23:50,440 --> 02:23:54,560 Speaker 1: look and let's just let's just sting off the top, right. Okay, 2258 02:23:54,680 --> 02:23:58,320 Speaker 1: we can't like fully claim like an easy LP right 2259 02:23:58,400 --> 02:24:01,960 Speaker 1: because easy LP was already out with but give it 2260 02:24:02,080 --> 02:24:03,760 Speaker 1: up to him. He gave me a class of claw 2261 02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Clark camp. But this shout for this and then from 2262 02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:14,560 Speaker 1: that comes a Swiss Beats comes up for rap. Yeah, 2263 02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:20,400 Speaker 1: you know I was a dream. Chip Man comes in 2264 02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:24,640 Speaker 1: right more right. We got kids. We got Faye. Yeah, 2265 02:24:26,080 --> 02:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I like it, Like, ain't just a bad man. They 2266 02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:34,720 Speaker 1: got babies. They're gonna take the firm. H I know 2267 02:24:34,879 --> 02:24:38,280 Speaker 1: yours is minds is. He says, we're gonna working on 2268 02:24:38,320 --> 02:24:43,039 Speaker 1: the set right now, guys. Yeah, my son is working 2269 02:24:43,080 --> 02:24:48,920 Speaker 1: on the set. Yeah. We got we got we got 2270 02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of we got a lot of pepn were 2271 02:24:51,080 --> 02:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Flowish man smoking and stuff. I got a lot of 2272 02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, you know what. But um, you know, I 2273 02:25:05,520 --> 02:25:10,640 Speaker 1: want to just in case individually, um, you know, one 2274 02:25:10,720 --> 02:25:15,520 Speaker 1: by one. You know, it's no problem in case I 2275 02:25:15,560 --> 02:25:19,840 Speaker 1: didn't individually, one by one, you know, thank everyone because 2276 02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:26,800 Speaker 1: that's important, is um. The journey. I used to be 2277 02:25:26,879 --> 02:25:29,520 Speaker 1: seeing people so much times and they talk about the 2278 02:25:29,560 --> 02:25:34,320 Speaker 1: beginning they took about and they're like they be getting 2279 02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:39,720 Speaker 1: the journey. The journeys were mixed, you know what I'm saying. 2280 02:25:40,879 --> 02:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Journey's life, the Journey's life. Yeah, the journey, yes, Hobby, 2281 02:25:48,400 --> 02:25:54,240 Speaker 1: But it's road. It's probably the hardest album. It's probably 2282 02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:57,120 Speaker 1: the hardest thing I've ever been a part of, but 2283 02:25:57,240 --> 02:26:01,160 Speaker 1: it's also the foundation of everything I've been a part of. 2284 02:26:02,360 --> 02:26:06,760 Speaker 1: So making the Worripor the Aroblem it was, I mean 2285 02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:10,440 Speaker 1: getting on the train, I not a jabs and ship. 2286 02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:14,240 Speaker 1: You don't know. When you don't, you don't know who 2287 02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:18,000 Speaker 1: You're starting to feel like the man. But you gotta 2288 02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:21,360 Speaker 1: hide it, yo, and you gotta go and be like, Man, 2289 02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm about to do a record with nas because you 2290 02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:27,760 Speaker 1: want to our trade. Like if I know that, I 2291 02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:31,320 Speaker 1: know how that feels. Bro. See that defines character. Bro, 2292 02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:34,360 Speaker 1: everybody want to make it? What the funk you wanted 2293 02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:38,520 Speaker 1: to do to make it bad? How hard will you go? 2294 02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Like how much I know? I know how far you go? 2295 02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:44,760 Speaker 1: I know how far you How far are you wanting 2296 02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:48,959 Speaker 1: to fight? Man? That's right because if you got anybody 2297 02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:51,120 Speaker 1: can talk this ship a lot of times. Man, we 2298 02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:53,280 Speaker 1: do things man, especially you know, not to jump off. 2299 02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:55,680 Speaker 1: I gotta be in chaligent little, especially with these kids. 2300 02:26:55,720 --> 02:26:59,680 Speaker 1: We do things to to kind of like over the 2301 02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:04,840 Speaker 1: next man, but not really because we want validation. But real, 2302 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:08,000 Speaker 1: like to me, real achievement is looking at yourself and 2303 02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:11,320 Speaker 1: pulling that ship out when nobody's in the pleach is 2304 02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:14,160 Speaker 1: shearing for you? Can you do that? I can do that? 2305 02:27:15,240 --> 02:27:18,400 Speaker 1: Can you keep going? Everybody else is going like this. 2306 02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:23,240 Speaker 1: That's championship to me, you know what. I'm fit so 2307 02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:26,200 Speaker 1: so when I see this right here, I think about 2308 02:27:26,320 --> 02:27:30,640 Speaker 1: all the times dudes going through crazy ship, damnit dying, 2309 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:34,440 Speaker 1: just everything's going because you but you want everything to 2310 02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:38,240 Speaker 1: go right right, You want everything to go right. But 2311 02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:41,320 Speaker 1: it is going right. It is going right. You know 2312 02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:44,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It is going I'm gonna take me 2313 02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:52,880 Speaker 1: a Japanese della, y'all. I'm going backstrood Man tomboy. I'm 2314 02:27:52,920 --> 02:27:59,640 Speaker 1: a professional. I've got all the damn all the time 2315 02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:04,760 Speaker 1: you got. I'm about hol Yo Sun. I was like, Yo, 2316 02:28:04,879 --> 02:28:09,920 Speaker 1: this is a real Spanish thing. He's drinking, made about 2317 02:28:09,959 --> 02:28:21,400 Speaker 1: ten dollars, is about to go up only talking about 2318 02:28:23,560 --> 02:28:30,200 Speaker 1: but so so so, ma'am, because today I textually just 2319 02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:33,360 Speaker 1: make sure you was here. You send me a picture. 2320 02:28:35,800 --> 02:28:48,039 Speaker 1: This picture was of what, oh, what's dad? A Mike 2321 02:28:48,160 --> 02:29:00,240 Speaker 1: listure got masters. That's what's going on. I mean, the 2322 02:29:01,080 --> 02:29:05,600 Speaker 1: backups come one? What does that? Yo? What name is 2323 02:29:05,640 --> 02:29:15,560 Speaker 1: on that yog? That ship? A little version, That's what 2324 02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:19,960 Speaker 1: version is that though, that's the last version. Yo, this 2325 02:29:20,120 --> 02:29:24,080 Speaker 1: for radio. I gotta be O Studs studio. I know 2326 02:29:24,160 --> 02:29:27,400 Speaker 1: the logo. Oh that's the mastering plant right now? Yeah? Okay, 2327 02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:30,720 Speaker 1: what else is in the right? What else is going 2328 02:29:30,760 --> 02:29:41,680 Speaker 1: on there? Bro some some ideas of difference. You got 2329 02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:44,000 Speaker 1: a copy in that stage, you stay, take a copy 2330 02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:51,120 Speaker 1: of this happen? Hey, whatever happened that Wappy Guy and 2331 02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Candy record smarts from doing radio, we would get so 2332 02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:06,360 Speaker 1: many freestyle sas archive everyone literally no right, So at 2333 02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:12,040 Speaker 1: the end, yeah, the label got every great your work. 2334 02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:15,280 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's great because you you would have to 2335 02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:29,920 Speaker 1: prove your work meaning tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know what's out. Yeah, 2336 02:30:30,320 --> 02:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to say. I'm I'm really happy to 2337 02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:37,360 Speaker 1: be here. Proud of you taking all these years and 2338 02:30:37,800 --> 02:30:41,640 Speaker 1: and pone and tragedy and you know this whole. It's 2339 02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:45,640 Speaker 1: an amazing team. So I love you. Guys sat up 2340 02:30:45,680 --> 02:30:48,400 Speaker 1: for an ely day. That ain't what you got the 2341 02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:51,520 Speaker 1: budancy What was the girl that he was light skinned? Monica? 2342 02:30:51,760 --> 02:31:00,200 Speaker 1: What was her name? Oh, Terry? Terry said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 2343 02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't forget you ye, 2344 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:14,200 Speaker 1: Christine at homes we can Carolyn Williams. You know we 2345 02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:21,600 Speaker 1: are Who else are we missing? Eldness said, talked about 2346 02:31:22,240 --> 02:31:26,160 Speaker 1: did chief Tyrone? We can't forget to Julie. We said 2347 02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:30,240 Speaker 1: that Julia early, that Julia was around. So yeah, Mama, 2348 02:31:30,360 --> 02:31:31,800 Speaker 1: you might have that cool and love to that to 2349 02:31:32,200 --> 02:31:42,600 Speaker 1: love stiver get caught in car manly too many. Grandma 2350 02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:47,000 Speaker 1: came from eight fort country. Grandma came from storing out 2351 02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:51,280 Speaker 1: the right sto out there country. Grandma came from superduck listen. 2352 02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:58,040 Speaker 1: I signed, Yes he was cheap back then, right, that's true. 2353 02:31:58,120 --> 02:32:06,240 Speaker 1: That speaking was like, okay, so Neil, let me just 2354 02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:10,240 Speaker 1: ask you. Yeah, and this is a real ship um 2355 02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:13,920 Speaker 1: which one of the saddest days of my life. I 2356 02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:22,080 Speaker 1: do you know? Yeah, I think we're about to drop union. Yea. 2357 02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:29,880 Speaker 1: We have this meeting and this meeting that Chris liked, 2358 02:32:29,879 --> 02:32:36,480 Speaker 1: he gobbed us to day we sit down this guy 2359 02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:41,440 Speaker 1: uh named Tom Simmerman. It's just down to what I SUCs. 2360 02:32:42,640 --> 02:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Penalty is no longer. You guys are coming. You guys 2361 02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:53,440 Speaker 1: are coming to I believe it was on't to me 2362 02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:55,720 Speaker 1: is that Mr Childs. But I believe and it was 2363 02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:57,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be my supposed to be my dinner, by 2364 02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:00,600 Speaker 1: the way, my dinner. So I don't you ever said 2365 02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:04,880 Speaker 1: this public or we've never covered this publicly. This is 2366 02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:09,560 Speaker 1: this is a meeting where a poem you correct me? 2367 02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:12,320 Speaker 1: Are we about to drop the reunion? Amal? This is 2368 02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:19,400 Speaker 1: right before before I think we we just we just yes, 2369 02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:24,080 Speaker 1: what is you going through? Because a lot of people 2370 02:33:24,240 --> 02:33:26,800 Speaker 1: just and this is beautiful for people that you know, 2371 02:33:26,840 --> 02:33:30,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna open up a company, bs CEO, do whatever, 2372 02:33:30,879 --> 02:33:34,840 Speaker 1: getting business people and then not realize what's what's going on, 2373 02:33:35,040 --> 02:33:39,040 Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously you were the eldest statesman at 2374 02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,800 Speaker 1: this time being a poem. Were really we just ride whatever, 2375 02:33:42,959 --> 02:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Neil said, whatever, whatever. But you went through something with 2376 02:33:46,879 --> 02:33:50,400 Speaker 1: with this and if you could share this story because 2377 02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,640 Speaker 1: you never showed him to the meeting, we kept looking like, well, okay, 2378 02:33:53,840 --> 02:33:55,800 Speaker 1: it was It was the hardest day of my life. 2379 02:33:56,200 --> 02:34:00,440 Speaker 1: It was one of them, and um, you know, and 2380 02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:03,039 Speaker 1: we had a huge rainstorm and my apartment got flooded 2381 02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:06,480 Speaker 1: that that weekend. It was just a very very difficult time. 2382 02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:11,920 Speaker 1: I went from being the man to not and in retrospect, 2383 02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:16,279 Speaker 1: it was a cleansing period of my life. I became 2384 02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:21,120 Speaker 1: stronger and I knew who I was more. But that 2385 02:34:21,240 --> 02:34:24,199 Speaker 1: time was really tough and and in business it's really tough, 2386 02:34:24,320 --> 02:34:26,320 Speaker 1: and it was it was cheaper to getting rid of 2387 02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:31,080 Speaker 1: me at that point, and um, and they exercise to 2388 02:34:31,160 --> 02:34:45,880 Speaker 1: buy out on the company and uh, hell whatever enough 2389 02:34:45,959 --> 02:34:50,680 Speaker 1: call whatever, because it's my baby, so my baby. It 2390 02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:53,520 Speaker 1: wasn't about it wasn't about it was it was it 2391 02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:58,040 Speaker 1: was who I was and you guys, we were part 2392 02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,520 Speaker 1: of that, that legacy, and it was a difficult time. 2393 02:35:01,680 --> 02:35:06,080 Speaker 1: But in retrospect um it was meant to be right 2394 02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:11,280 Speaker 1: for for those times and I'm looking back then my 2395 02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:15,640 Speaker 1: whole day in my life, but looking back years later, 2396 02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:18,480 Speaker 1: it was actually a cleansing period from me and I realized, 2397 02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't defined by by all these other 2398 02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:26,320 Speaker 1: things and I could still be who I was, and 2399 02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:29,680 Speaker 1: I came back stronger than ever because at one point 2400 02:35:30,600 --> 02:35:37,880 Speaker 1: one of them because um this this was kind of like, 2401 02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you felt like this. And we 2402 02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:45,080 Speaker 1: didn't understand business at this time. So when it was 2403 02:35:45,160 --> 02:35:47,360 Speaker 1: like you know what, usually guys are just tommy boy, 2404 02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:51,080 Speaker 1: we was like, well, why ain't Nil fighting? Like why 2405 02:35:51,240 --> 02:35:55,240 Speaker 1: is it Neil saying that they're not time boy, there 2406 02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:59,160 Speaker 1: are still penalty. We didn't obviously didn't understand business like that. 2407 02:35:59,240 --> 02:36:02,000 Speaker 1: And I felt like that with you at one point too, 2408 02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:06,720 Speaker 1: like when it was like, um, you know, all right, well, 2409 02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:09,000 Speaker 1: what by trash ain't fighting for me. You know he's 2410 02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna let me go. So I wanted to start with 2411 02:36:11,200 --> 02:36:14,000 Speaker 1: you with with this situation, and then with you if 2412 02:36:14,040 --> 02:36:17,480 Speaker 1: you got to the bathroom, I'm gonna say, but um, 2413 02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:20,879 Speaker 1: you know that was one of because we were so naive, 2414 02:36:21,360 --> 02:36:24,240 Speaker 1: We're like what so Nil was just gonna just give 2415 02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:27,680 Speaker 1: it up. And Chris Lanny, who was supposed to be 2416 02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:31,600 Speaker 1: are like mentor. He had never heard of his neither, 2417 02:36:32,520 --> 02:36:34,199 Speaker 1: but he had to wait until he left the meeting. 2418 02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:37,160 Speaker 1: He couldn't even give us something positive. And I mean 2419 02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:40,320 Speaker 1: it literally happened hours before that dinner, So you and 2420 02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:43,560 Speaker 1: Tom had never had any descripance. Hours before the dinner, 2421 02:36:44,760 --> 02:36:46,880 Speaker 1: we had this meeting. I was supposed to go to 2422 02:36:46,959 --> 02:36:50,280 Speaker 1: the dinner. I set up the dinner and and that's 2423 02:36:50,320 --> 02:36:54,600 Speaker 1: when they said we we had a we we haven't 2424 02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:59,760 Speaker 1: waited and all that stuff. And by the way, I 2425 02:36:59,879 --> 02:37:02,280 Speaker 1: was gonna fight to get it back. And I talked 2426 02:37:02,320 --> 02:37:06,320 Speaker 1: to my attorneys and it's like, oh, so you know, 2427 02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:12,240 Speaker 1: looking back all these years later, um most difficult period 2428 02:37:12,280 --> 02:37:15,960 Speaker 1: of my entire life. And if it wasn't for it 2429 02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:18,280 Speaker 1: wasn't for Miami. I came down to Miami. That's when 2430 02:37:18,320 --> 02:37:21,960 Speaker 1: I met Khalid, and I was thinking I got into 2431 02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:26,600 Speaker 1: business with him at that point and cool and great. 2432 02:37:27,320 --> 02:37:29,760 Speaker 1: So so it was it was a really and it 2433 02:37:29,879 --> 02:37:31,720 Speaker 1: was a wake up call for me. I need to 2434 02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:35,200 Speaker 1: be honest because you know, it was my baby, so 2435 02:37:35,400 --> 02:37:38,160 Speaker 1: the penalty of my baby and suddenly I didn't have 2436 02:37:38,280 --> 02:37:40,280 Speaker 1: it at that point. I ended up getting it back 2437 02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:43,280 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you, as an outside I'm looking 2438 02:37:43,400 --> 02:37:45,720 Speaker 1: in and I was not an outside of looking and 2439 02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:48,080 Speaker 1: I was an insider that was inside. But I was 2440 02:37:48,160 --> 02:37:51,440 Speaker 1: probably like I didn't believe Tom Superman. Like what I 2441 02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:55,240 Speaker 1: thought was this was like a cahoose for him to 2442 02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:58,840 Speaker 1: just get rid of penalty. I didn't think that he 2443 02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:02,080 Speaker 1: actually fucked you over too, like I thought it was 2444 02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,959 Speaker 1: just Austin was being pucked over because what he said 2445 02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,960 Speaker 1: was you guys are making money. We just think you 2446 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:10,520 Speaker 1: guys And he said it like like we told us 2447 02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:14,840 Speaker 1: a totally different It was saying I'm gonna take everybody 2448 02:38:14,920 --> 02:38:18,240 Speaker 1: that was working on your project from penalty. Oh yeah, okay, okay. 2449 02:38:18,280 --> 02:38:23,400 Speaker 1: It was supposed to the game, the game, that's the game, 2450 02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:28,680 Speaker 1: all the people, all the people around. Yeah, that's scary. 2451 02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:35,720 Speaker 1: If I look back over my years that day, that night, 2452 02:38:35,879 --> 02:38:37,840 Speaker 1: the dinner, I knew that dinner was happening because I 2453 02:38:37,879 --> 02:38:40,320 Speaker 1: set it up. The fact that I wasn't there, the 2454 02:38:40,440 --> 02:38:44,360 Speaker 1: fact we just didn't our business together, you know. Um, 2455 02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's like we see a lot of teeth, 2456 02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:54,440 Speaker 1: the telling us, telling us she was going there like 2457 02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:57,000 Speaker 1: she seen us from time because she's like, don't do it, 2458 02:38:57,240 --> 02:38:59,400 Speaker 1: don't do it. But look, I could totally relate to 2459 02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:03,480 Speaker 1: a Neil because like that's what it was with us, 2460 02:39:05,120 --> 02:39:09,160 Speaker 1: Like it was like, Yo, what the fund? You know 2461 02:39:09,160 --> 02:39:12,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like this is my little brothersh man, 2462 02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:15,800 Speaker 1: Like these my little brothers, Like I don't I don't, nah, 2463 02:39:15,920 --> 02:39:18,440 Speaker 1: we can't throw it like that, you know what I'm 2464 02:39:18,440 --> 02:39:20,720 Speaker 1: sharing looking at like what I went through, Like Molly, 2465 02:39:21,560 --> 02:39:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, who the fuck is this man? Like so 2466 02:39:24,520 --> 02:39:27,440 Speaker 1: when he came in front of me, I'm gonna let 2467 02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:30,160 Speaker 1: you tell it. Got you telling? Um? No? I mean 2468 02:39:30,360 --> 02:39:33,280 Speaker 1: you know that that was a whole experience for me 2469 02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:40,520 Speaker 1: because um M, I didn't I didn't know how harsh 2470 02:39:40,600 --> 02:39:44,160 Speaker 1: business was. I didn't know that today me and you 2471 02:39:44,320 --> 02:39:52,080 Speaker 1: can split up turkey and cheese salach tomorrow, that's what happens. 2472 02:39:52,920 --> 02:39:55,480 Speaker 1: And it was just like that, Like Tom Stillerman was 2473 02:39:55,959 --> 02:39:59,640 Speaker 1: um he was so nausealt about it, like you don't 2474 02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:01,600 Speaker 1: know what to all. I know, you guys hang out 2475 02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:03,959 Speaker 1: the penalty every day. And I was like, yeah, we enjoyed. 2476 02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:06,840 Speaker 1: You're talking about one I'm talking about. I was like, yeah, 2477 02:40:06,879 --> 02:40:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, I was getting to that because so so 2478 02:40:08,440 --> 02:40:09,959 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we enjoyed. He was like yeah, 2479 02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:14,280 Speaker 1: but we got a gym over and I'm not talking 2480 02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:19,240 Speaker 1: about the season. And by the time I was always 2481 02:40:19,320 --> 02:40:23,520 Speaker 1: really I'm like, okay, be blowing off. I have no idea. 2482 02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:26,880 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you you nobody else like you guys, 2483 02:40:26,959 --> 02:40:29,800 Speaker 1: and that's it. And then he's like, yeah, so you 2484 02:40:29,920 --> 02:40:32,920 Speaker 1: guys just don't go to penalty no more. That's crazy 2485 02:40:33,879 --> 02:40:38,960 Speaker 1: And you're not realizing what he's saying is everything that 2486 02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:41,760 Speaker 1: you've been doing for two and a half half years 2487 02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:47,240 Speaker 1: enjoying yourself over it's over. But everything having the penalty. 2488 02:40:48,320 --> 02:40:52,720 Speaker 1: While I was shocked every single. But for him to 2489 02:40:52,760 --> 02:40:57,920 Speaker 1: say he's gonna take the like immediate staff connected to 2490 02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:05,600 Speaker 1: that was that's that's something one like like that. It 2491 02:41:05,720 --> 02:41:08,039 Speaker 1: was like Neil Straight, So we automatically our guards just down. 2492 02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:11,000 Speaker 1: I was like, alright, cool, alright cool. And the staff 2493 02:41:11,080 --> 02:41:13,160 Speaker 1: at the media staff, everyone who works with a ponent, 2494 02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:16,320 Speaker 1: are they coming that one of them caring? Yeah, I 2495 02:41:16,400 --> 02:41:25,360 Speaker 1: heard that ship before Straight, but three were like word 2496 02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:30,080 Speaker 1: like cool cool, and they're giving us some great paper though, 2497 02:41:30,240 --> 02:41:33,640 Speaker 1: like it was like that was his thing, like you 2498 02:41:33,760 --> 02:41:37,000 Speaker 1: would throw me this in your face. Well I didn't 2499 02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:39,920 Speaker 1: know that that mean, And it was afterwards he just 2500 02:41:40,040 --> 02:41:42,640 Speaker 1: felt at that mean he was just letting slagors just 2501 02:41:42,800 --> 02:41:48,000 Speaker 1: be taking care of Yeah, he was warming to you 2502 02:41:48,080 --> 02:41:52,080 Speaker 1: gotta give yourselves, y'all were young and somebody trash. I 2503 02:41:52,160 --> 02:41:55,240 Speaker 1: wanted that phone call. I definitely wanted that phone quote 2504 02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:58,720 Speaker 1: for you now because I got explained to it through 2505 02:41:58,840 --> 02:42:02,840 Speaker 1: lawyers and do lawyers. They were like, you know what, um, 2506 02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:06,680 Speaker 1: you know now, be okay back on his feet. That's 2507 02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:09,760 Speaker 1: what the exact borders far back and sounds bad like that. 2508 02:42:10,360 --> 02:42:12,760 Speaker 1: So for me, if I have, if I have one 2509 02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:19,480 Speaker 1: my life that I didn't talk to anybody you guys, 2510 02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:25,480 Speaker 1: I actually disappeared. Leo Coles, did it to be yet 2511 02:42:27,120 --> 02:42:31,360 Speaker 1: because you did right into my life? Then he regrets them. Yeah, 2512 02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:33,800 Speaker 1: it's that I did. That's how when he wanted to 2513 02:42:36,400 --> 02:42:40,520 Speaker 1: give you that listen, you know what that crazy shit 2514 02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:43,160 Speaker 1: about that ship. If we would have talked, he gave 2515 02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:45,720 Speaker 1: us enough money, we could have brought ourselves bad. We 2516 02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:49,320 Speaker 1: could have said, you listen, you weren't looking at it 2517 02:42:49,360 --> 02:42:51,640 Speaker 1: like that. The money we bet on ourselves, he wasn't 2518 02:42:51,640 --> 02:42:53,520 Speaker 1: looking at it like guys. I think it was a 2519 02:42:53,560 --> 02:42:56,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on. There was the atmosphere that 2520 02:42:57,480 --> 02:43:00,640 Speaker 1: bro bro you know, now brof you could come on everybody. 2521 02:43:02,000 --> 02:43:03,600 Speaker 1: That's a good point that you're making. And I got 2522 02:43:03,720 --> 02:43:06,720 Speaker 1: to say that before. But before that happened, I had 2523 02:43:06,840 --> 02:43:11,040 Speaker 1: left penalty. But I regret leaving you like I regret. 2524 02:43:11,080 --> 02:43:16,840 Speaker 1: I think I shot. It was somewhere. It was somewhere 2525 02:43:16,840 --> 02:43:25,440 Speaker 1: before epic was I remember a little dog right, because like, yeah, 2526 02:43:26,040 --> 02:43:29,120 Speaker 1: I think had I stayed, things probably would have played 2527 02:43:29,120 --> 02:43:30,920 Speaker 1: out a little bit different. I think I left. You know, 2528 02:43:31,080 --> 02:43:32,800 Speaker 1: Neil gave me my first shot, but I think that 2529 02:43:33,200 --> 02:43:36,240 Speaker 1: he actually offered me a fair deal to stay. But 2530 02:43:36,760 --> 02:43:39,280 Speaker 1: because I was young, didn't know, and chasing the check 2531 02:43:39,879 --> 02:43:42,440 Speaker 1: made a bad move, right, and it wasn't like the 2532 02:43:42,480 --> 02:43:44,560 Speaker 1: best thing. So I regret that. And we could have, 2533 02:43:44,680 --> 02:43:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, probably could have, you know, played out a 2534 02:43:46,720 --> 02:43:48,680 Speaker 1: little a lot of a lot of different I left, bam, 2535 02:43:48,840 --> 02:43:50,440 Speaker 1: I left, you know, I left, I left a lot 2536 02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:53,320 Speaker 1: of things on the table, unfinished business. I would stay 2537 02:43:53,480 --> 02:43:56,440 Speaker 1: right because there was still a lot to happen. But 2538 02:43:56,680 --> 02:43:58,360 Speaker 1: everything worked out the way it worked out of it 2539 02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:02,040 Speaker 1: to be money. So it is what it is, and 2540 02:44:02,120 --> 02:44:04,360 Speaker 1: we were here, we tell it in twenty five years. 2541 02:44:04,680 --> 02:44:06,360 Speaker 1: That's gonna keep it and keep it going and and 2542 02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:09,000 Speaker 1: and it's fun up to say now. But I'm glad 2543 02:44:09,040 --> 02:44:10,440 Speaker 1: that you said that was one of these Saturs days 2544 02:44:10,480 --> 02:44:17,200 Speaker 1: of your life. This is one of my. Yeah, it was. 2545 02:44:17,440 --> 02:44:21,720 Speaker 1: It was definitely changed with Edwin Holmes was the man, 2546 02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:41,320 Speaker 1: I will tell you something. I would tell you something, 2547 02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:44,760 Speaker 1: I tell what I would take something. I'm in Hollywood. 2548 02:44:44,840 --> 02:44:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm in Hollywood. I'm gonna take a shot of Japanese 2549 02:44:48,360 --> 02:44:53,600 Speaker 1: Japanese doc I'm in Hollywood. And it comes across the 2550 02:44:53,680 --> 02:45:01,480 Speaker 1: table after Entourage comes across the table, is what happens 2551 02:45:01,520 --> 02:45:07,640 Speaker 1: to what's going to be Empire with the series. Yeah, okay, 2552 02:45:07,720 --> 02:45:10,120 Speaker 1: these guys are sending to me. They sent me the script. 2553 02:45:10,200 --> 02:45:15,400 Speaker 1: I look at the script like this will never work. Sad, 2554 02:45:17,879 --> 02:45:23,680 Speaker 1: this story, it's so false. I was wrong. Just be clear, 2555 02:45:25,600 --> 02:45:34,880 Speaker 1: because what is it called? They fatitiously, factitiously described this 2556 02:45:35,040 --> 02:45:38,760 Speaker 1: story and sometimes the troop are so dope you don't 2557 02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:41,160 Speaker 1: need to add one or nothing to nothing to it. 2558 02:45:43,560 --> 02:45:46,320 Speaker 1: What I always wanted to do and always your light 2559 02:45:46,440 --> 02:45:52,240 Speaker 1: to do, was to recreate that penalty situation where it 2560 02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:56,400 Speaker 1: was exactly that where these hood artists came up to 2561 02:45:56,520 --> 02:46:02,440 Speaker 1: this little prestigious record label, got to get out the hood, 2562 02:46:02,600 --> 02:46:04,880 Speaker 1: but then makes some of the most amazing music they 2563 02:46:05,000 --> 02:46:08,640 Speaker 1: ever did, get the rollers, Like, that story has not 2564 02:46:08,760 --> 02:46:12,200 Speaker 1: been told. I've seen Entourage. I apologize. I felt short. 2565 02:46:13,360 --> 02:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh I've seen uh. I was just talking about Empire. 2566 02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:24,520 Speaker 1: God bless you guys. You came literally, But I was 2567 02:46:24,520 --> 02:46:27,920 Speaker 1: talking about the realness of the record label, like like 2568 02:46:28,040 --> 02:46:30,200 Speaker 1: the realness I would love to see something like you're 2569 02:46:30,240 --> 02:46:33,800 Speaker 1: going to management, the realness of going to a pal. 2570 02:46:34,680 --> 02:46:36,960 Speaker 1: You can maybe get a hood nigger like Geno and 2571 02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:39,720 Speaker 1: saying she's coming here to see and this nigga is 2572 02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:41,880 Speaker 1: sitting there eating the turkey, sandwich and like man with 2573 02:46:41,959 --> 02:46:48,680 Speaker 1: the Africa Aca sh and then you're smelling but in 2574 02:46:48,760 --> 02:46:51,600 Speaker 1: the background, but this school be incorporated in the front 2575 02:46:51,720 --> 02:46:58,160 Speaker 1: like this, And she's like, right, sometimes you don't have 2576 02:46:58,200 --> 02:47:01,840 Speaker 1: to exaggerate the truth that you can't make you up. 2577 02:47:02,120 --> 02:47:04,640 Speaker 1: You can't listen, it's a lot of ship. We're not 2578 02:47:04,760 --> 02:47:08,080 Speaker 1: even really like you can make you can't. They paid 2579 02:47:08,120 --> 02:47:11,080 Speaker 1: for ship like that, Like this ship is all organic. 2580 02:47:11,280 --> 02:47:13,920 Speaker 1: This is called Japanese del Yeah, but you know what, 2581 02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:21,840 Speaker 1: you know what though, That's how I felt, bro, That's 2582 02:47:21,879 --> 02:47:23,840 Speaker 1: how I felt when it came to me, like yo, someone, 2583 02:47:23,879 --> 02:47:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm like that ship was like a hard blow to me. 2584 02:47:28,640 --> 02:47:31,880 Speaker 1: So no freaky you know what I mean? Well, you 2585 02:47:32,360 --> 02:47:40,760 Speaker 1: will be honest, freeze whatever I want to disappear in life, 2586 02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:46,720 Speaker 1: calling whenever, whenever you want to disappear. You are the 2587 02:47:46,879 --> 02:47:54,440 Speaker 1: best disappearment act in America? Are you some time that 2588 02:47:55,280 --> 02:48:03,640 Speaker 1: everybody don't say I'm out but trash you are. No. 2589 02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:05,760 Speaker 1: You know what though, let me tell you this though, seriously, 2590 02:48:06,280 --> 02:48:10,000 Speaker 1: even listen all the way to time, my Paul, you 2591 02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:12,640 Speaker 1: can't say that stop he really can't cut it out 2592 02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:15,880 Speaker 1: about just stop. Look you cut it out with the 2593 02:48:16,040 --> 02:48:19,920 Speaker 1: games man vouch. I listened. He do vounce for me? 2594 02:48:20,160 --> 02:48:22,160 Speaker 1: He do vounce for me. You're not listening. I know, 2595 02:48:22,280 --> 02:48:28,640 Speaker 1: he vouch. You can manipulation like that. You know you 2596 02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:31,560 Speaker 1: don't say that because see like like I know my 2597 02:48:31,720 --> 02:48:34,960 Speaker 1: people's man, you're gonna sit there and you had to 2598 02:48:35,040 --> 02:48:37,959 Speaker 1: get that off. That my idea what you just said. 2599 02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:43,879 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna track you know what, I gonna talk 2600 02:48:43,879 --> 02:48:46,480 Speaker 1: to my brother. I can't wait on the shop. I 2601 02:48:46,560 --> 02:48:51,039 Speaker 1: want to talk to my brother like he can wait 2602 02:48:51,160 --> 02:48:53,520 Speaker 1: to throw that a we sh. I knew he was 2603 02:48:53,560 --> 02:48:56,400 Speaker 1: gonna whold act just that one. I said, he I 2604 02:48:56,480 --> 02:48:58,640 Speaker 1: was getting later said he might not throw that end, 2605 02:48:59,440 --> 02:49:03,400 Speaker 1: but that's we is now, I'm going to happen like one. 2606 02:49:03,440 --> 02:49:05,080 Speaker 1: They were not to bring it up. Think about this 2607 02:49:05,320 --> 02:49:09,160 Speaker 1: right at that time, who was dominating the music business? 2608 02:49:09,720 --> 02:49:16,760 Speaker 1: I said, right, that's why I said that opposite. That's 2609 02:49:16,760 --> 02:49:21,440 Speaker 1: why I said that topic and still made Yeah, that's 2610 02:49:21,440 --> 02:49:23,520 Speaker 1: why I said that that. I think that was kind 2611 02:49:23,560 --> 02:49:26,840 Speaker 1: of I know that was kind of lit, right, I said, 2612 02:49:26,879 --> 02:49:36,119 Speaker 1: cozy blow holes, stop your mosquito later, But I think 2613 02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:38,920 Speaker 1: that that was also like what was happening like publicly, 2614 02:49:39,120 --> 02:49:43,680 Speaker 1: like Masters was dancing whatever, singing but it was really 2615 02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:45,840 Speaker 1: there was this other thing happening, and that's where we 2616 02:49:46,000 --> 02:49:47,640 Speaker 1: was at. We was on this other way like it 2617 02:49:47,800 --> 02:49:50,480 Speaker 1: was on was that I'm gonna join them on the past. 2618 02:49:52,320 --> 02:49:59,000 Speaker 1: It was everybody, we're taking a bathroom break. Now what 2619 02:49:59,320 --> 02:50:58,440 Speaker 1: Japanese fat h m m h h h passes you 2620 02:50:58,560 --> 02:51:03,000 Speaker 1: knows you this character, I drink this jazy The one 2621 02:51:03,080 --> 02:51:05,520 Speaker 1: guy is in challenge on the glasses on trying to fly. 2622 02:51:07,080 --> 02:51:12,000 Speaker 1: Can't see a lot you all. Body's smarter than everybody 2623 02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:14,320 Speaker 1: in this rooms when you put it more yeah, yeah, 2624 02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:23,880 Speaker 1: joints have paid cheers, got your everybody, everybody. Yeah, I 2625 02:51:24,680 --> 02:51:30,440 Speaker 1: got going around the table, better health, a better time, health, 2626 02:51:30,520 --> 02:51:32,760 Speaker 1: more hearty, more sun show. Hould on got a shot, 2627 02:51:32,800 --> 02:51:34,440 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, you give him a shot? Can 2628 02:51:34,440 --> 02:51:38,200 Speaker 1: you pass me that? Um and um? That's that Jamanu Sam, 2629 02:51:38,280 --> 02:51:47,040 Speaker 1: that's that Yapanese. Get that Yapanesy. Yeah, y'all got only 2630 02:51:47,120 --> 02:51:52,760 Speaker 1: got got done. Y'all matter fract You ain't telling y'all 2631 02:51:52,800 --> 02:51:54,920 Speaker 1: to walk through yeah past me because I'm gonna be 2632 02:51:54,959 --> 02:51:59,520 Speaker 1: out of you right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, take do. 2633 02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:03,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Double im speaking of double 2634 02:52:03,680 --> 02:52:09,080 Speaker 1: with double one double more time cheers for us, cheers, 2635 02:52:09,240 --> 02:52:13,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you. I'm watching Small Chance episodes on my motherfucker's 2636 02:52:13,600 --> 02:52:26,680 Speaker 1: see it. Yeah ye yeah, yeah, it's nice. Being good 2637 02:52:28,240 --> 02:52:38,320 Speaker 1: is delicious, you see like the smooths throw you who Yeah, 2638 02:52:40,760 --> 02:52:53,080 Speaker 1: that's what you let me get that top you feel good? Yeah? Up? 2639 02:52:54,160 --> 02:53:00,080 Speaker 1: Everybody else? Yeah, cancel christ as someone who has the 2640 02:53:00,160 --> 02:53:08,040 Speaker 1: cat by the damn your fault. I'm talking, come on, 2641 02:53:08,280 --> 02:53:16,840 Speaker 1: come on, guys, the black right. So what do you 2642 02:53:16,879 --> 02:53:22,040 Speaker 1: remember question? Listen? Listen, listen, because out of all the 2643 02:53:22,120 --> 02:53:25,240 Speaker 1: records that we're on, one of the most famous precors, 2644 02:53:26,320 --> 02:53:31,440 Speaker 1: one of my most proudest, it's Bloody One. Not only 2645 02:53:31,480 --> 02:53:34,160 Speaker 1: he was there for that section, was actually on the wreck. 2646 02:53:34,240 --> 02:53:37,400 Speaker 1: When they say big ride, regulate the court, big ride, 2647 02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:40,800 Speaker 1: man child, we say all that on the record, not 2648 02:53:41,240 --> 02:53:44,120 Speaker 1: not only in the back I was talking, but you're 2649 02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:46,760 Speaker 1: actually talking with us in the background. What do you 2650 02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:49,600 Speaker 1: remember about Bloody One session? I didn't prep you on 2651 02:53:49,720 --> 02:53:53,920 Speaker 1: that point. Point one of the mics at them police, Yo, 2652 02:53:54,280 --> 02:53:57,880 Speaker 1: put this micro. I just wanted to just pointed at here. Yeah, 2653 02:53:59,240 --> 02:54:04,160 Speaker 1: that's a big n First of all, we was kids. Yeah, 2654 02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:05,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean now that I look bad 2655 02:54:05,640 --> 02:54:08,480 Speaker 1: at it, it was just it was a special moment 2656 02:54:08,600 --> 02:54:11,840 Speaker 1: because you know what I mean me, you know, I'm 2657 02:54:12,400 --> 02:54:14,920 Speaker 1: I grew up in Queensbridge, left from Happy, I mean 2658 02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:18,760 Speaker 1: left friends friend was what of all the neighborhoods and 2659 02:54:19,480 --> 02:54:22,920 Speaker 1: y'all was already established in Lower Eleans City. So when 2660 02:54:23,040 --> 02:54:25,440 Speaker 1: he got his chance to when he got this platform 2661 02:54:25,560 --> 02:54:28,320 Speaker 1: the door, we were just so proud, like you know 2662 02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:30,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like even Kenney Smith used to be like, 2663 02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:35,199 Speaker 1: why are y'all so proud to be from Left Fract? 2664 02:54:35,320 --> 02:54:37,560 Speaker 1: Like it was because it really, like you know, what 2665 02:54:41,959 --> 02:54:46,760 Speaker 1: was left Frac wasn't Left Fract wasn't like y'all, but 2666 02:54:46,800 --> 02:54:49,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't in a salt place either, like for we 2667 02:54:50,080 --> 02:54:54,240 Speaker 1: had all the big name big names, Yankses and everything. 2668 02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:57,480 Speaker 1: But when he did it, it was like, oh man, 2669 02:54:57,680 --> 02:55:00,920 Speaker 1: like it was just we was just happy. But what 2670 02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:04,040 Speaker 1: people don't know. He used to go on the booth. 2671 02:55:05,560 --> 02:55:08,000 Speaker 1: He ain't go by myself. He used to bring like 2672 02:55:08,160 --> 02:55:17,560 Speaker 1: two people like that. But it marked out like he's like, yo, 2673 02:55:17,720 --> 02:55:21,720 Speaker 1: I remember he said, used to put me to the 2674 02:55:21,800 --> 02:55:30,400 Speaker 1: site was and sometimes money sometimes, oh money, especially money 2675 02:55:31,760 --> 02:55:35,040 Speaker 1: sometimes we will and that the blood money was the 2676 02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:37,520 Speaker 1: time for us to be will, But we're just proud 2677 02:55:37,680 --> 02:55:40,400 Speaker 1: man as you should be. See it. What a lot 2678 02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:44,320 Speaker 1: of people don't know what money he started writing rhymes 2679 02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:49,840 Speaker 1: and chaos. What that meant was I wrote rhymes. It's 2680 02:55:49,840 --> 02:55:52,480 Speaker 1: called k unit and k unit I had. I would 2681 02:55:52,640 --> 02:55:59,800 Speaker 1: only see the light. The light from the other people 2682 02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:08,160 Speaker 1: sound right, and then sorry for every lady that's in here, 2683 02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:14,120 Speaker 1: but it's hard to write rhymes with someone's jerking off 2684 02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:19,640 Speaker 1: next to all. See my home back comes out if 2685 02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:23,920 Speaker 1: you listen. Never said I said someone else's jerk when 2686 02:56:23,959 --> 02:56:35,119 Speaker 1: I was writing rhyme. That's that's what someone happened. Okay, okay, listen. 2687 02:56:35,160 --> 02:56:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm very confidence you got. But what I'm trying to 2688 02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:41,920 Speaker 1: tell you is how I started to do that was 2689 02:56:42,120 --> 02:56:44,880 Speaker 1: it was through chaos, it was through noise, it was 2690 02:56:44,920 --> 02:56:47,039 Speaker 1: through to the next problem. You gotta you gotta also 2691 02:56:47,120 --> 02:56:50,160 Speaker 1: realized it's also somebody sort of left that is cramped, 2692 02:56:50,280 --> 02:56:56,600 Speaker 1: crying for their mother because they want to be home. No, 2693 02:56:56,760 --> 02:57:08,280 Speaker 1: that's right, right, I got you, guys. What I'm saying, 2694 02:57:08,680 --> 02:57:14,720 Speaker 1: but Art is missing. It's saying his high rocks so 2695 02:57:15,320 --> 02:57:24,360 Speaker 1: chaos high d So A lot of people don't understand 2696 02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:32,440 Speaker 1: that got was normal for me going in and here 2697 02:57:32,520 --> 02:57:38,240 Speaker 1: in silence people. I needed to go on out and 2698 02:57:38,360 --> 02:57:43,800 Speaker 1: I needed to hear how I started to rhyme then, 2699 02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:47,599 Speaker 1: and then it made sense to me. Even even successful, 2700 02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:51,280 Speaker 1: even after being successful, like I'm real used to be like, 2701 02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:54,080 Speaker 1: you need these guys there, and I was like, nope, 2702 02:57:54,280 --> 02:57:57,240 Speaker 1: I just want to see them there to remember at 2703 02:57:57,320 --> 02:57:59,760 Speaker 1: these guys would be in there playing the piano like 2704 02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:05,160 Speaker 1: oh you know this ship picks up. Yeah yeah, yeah, 2705 02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:08,840 Speaker 1: but um that that actually soothed me. That created your 2706 02:58:08,879 --> 02:58:11,800 Speaker 1: comfort zone. That was your comfort zone. Yeah, makes sense. 2707 02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:15,200 Speaker 1: Every other artist exact opposite kick him on the move 2708 02:58:16,200 --> 02:58:22,440 Speaker 1: and there and everybodyself understand. If you listen to super Dog, 2709 02:58:22,560 --> 02:58:26,760 Speaker 1: you can tell that was like you couldn't have made 2710 02:58:26,840 --> 02:58:29,600 Speaker 1: that under your right mind, under the field. You gotta do. 2711 02:58:29,760 --> 02:58:32,640 Speaker 1: You gotta be when you feel comforable. Like when you 2712 02:58:32,760 --> 02:58:35,800 Speaker 1: first said it was like, yo, I forgot what show 2713 02:58:35,840 --> 02:58:38,920 Speaker 1: he was on. I'm not gonna say you, no, Christman, 2714 02:58:39,680 --> 02:58:43,400 Speaker 1: don't believe it. No mystery Gus. Listen to the radio. 2715 02:58:44,920 --> 02:58:48,440 Speaker 1: You said, I thought I had to go back to left. 2716 02:58:50,160 --> 02:58:53,880 Speaker 1: You said, nah, I usually need to defl the tragic 2717 02:58:53,959 --> 02:58:57,279 Speaker 1: to Miami. He's a walking project. I took that offensively 2718 02:58:57,360 --> 02:59:03,160 Speaker 1: at first hearing it, he meant, but you know, I 2719 02:59:03,240 --> 02:59:06,960 Speaker 1: didn't understand what he meant because you know he's remember that. 2720 02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:09,880 Speaker 1: But when I thought about it, I was like, that's 2721 02:59:09,920 --> 02:59:14,320 Speaker 1: a compliment. No, No, I'm serious, jo Side, I'm just 2722 02:59:14,400 --> 02:59:16,280 Speaker 1: not used to getting compliments from you. So you gott 2723 02:59:16,360 --> 02:59:20,360 Speaker 1: understand how I feel. No that. Yeah, but at the time, 2724 02:59:20,440 --> 02:59:24,400 Speaker 1: like you gotta understand you've it back then, Okay, I 2725 02:59:24,520 --> 02:59:26,480 Speaker 1: like how you trying to Listen. I didn't look at 2726 02:59:26,480 --> 02:59:28,720 Speaker 1: it like that. I like, what the fun? You always 2727 02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:33,320 Speaker 1: been like this? Yeah, every time I got another friend, right, 2728 02:59:33,400 --> 02:59:36,760 Speaker 1: he's been around he said, Hell, y'all always posture, And 2729 02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:40,199 Speaker 1: I said, now we just feel it's energy. Don't feel 2730 02:59:40,200 --> 02:59:44,760 Speaker 1: bad for him. He knows what he's doing. Listen, he's 2731 02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:49,160 Speaker 1: doing but no, no, what he's doing it. I'm seriously, 2732 02:59:50,240 --> 02:59:53,080 Speaker 1: I understand what you meant. But you know what I'm saying. 2733 02:59:53,120 --> 02:59:55,560 Speaker 1: I understand what you meant, and this is what I 2734 02:59:55,720 --> 02:59:59,119 Speaker 1: get from people one time and right now. Dudes, don't 2735 02:59:59,120 --> 03:00:03,880 Speaker 1: necessarily you know what to make me happy though that's 2736 03:00:03,879 --> 03:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for no money. He's act, but I want to do 2737 03:00:08,120 --> 03:00:11,200 Speaker 1: what I want to do. It. I don't know what 2738 03:00:11,280 --> 03:00:16,480 Speaker 1: he said. I would another. It would never be non seriously, 2739 03:00:16,760 --> 03:00:25,320 Speaker 1: there would never be another warrport. I know we just 2740 03:00:26,600 --> 03:00:29,120 Speaker 1: finally but I know whatever, But I know if we 2741 03:00:29,320 --> 03:00:33,120 Speaker 1: really went in and tapped that scene, I don't know, 2742 03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:37,560 Speaker 1: time is different. You have the infrastructure right wait, like 2743 03:00:37,600 --> 03:00:39,800 Speaker 1: it's giving me a feeling like that's the only way 2744 03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I think we should do it. If we're an't do 2745 03:00:41,879 --> 03:00:45,360 Speaker 1: it together, man, I think I think I think that's 2746 03:00:45,400 --> 03:00:59,280 Speaker 1: what act. What's yours? He said, chaos? What is the world? Then? 2747 03:00:59,400 --> 03:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Right now? Right? Let me what was your second? This 2748 03:01:09,879 --> 03:01:15,560 Speaker 1: is my brother, that's the same thing. I want to 2749 03:01:15,640 --> 03:01:19,920 Speaker 1: feel like I'm selling you because you know what another 2750 03:01:19,959 --> 03:01:22,200 Speaker 1: person in my poss like. I don't say that. I kid, 2751 03:01:22,360 --> 03:01:25,400 Speaker 1: but then that's not right. But try don't just do 2752 03:01:26,200 --> 03:01:30,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. How are you gonna do it? You 2753 03:01:30,520 --> 03:01:33,120 Speaker 1: gotta keep going. You're gonna be getting no no, no, no, 2754 03:01:34,560 --> 03:01:36,959 Speaker 1: hold whatever. Wait, let me say let me say, right, 2755 03:01:37,560 --> 03:01:46,440 Speaker 1: do not fault. He's he's gonna say he's been around 2756 03:01:46,480 --> 03:01:49,480 Speaker 1: with rob Yes, Paul, Paul, Paul. Yeah. Let me just 2757 03:01:49,560 --> 03:01:53,240 Speaker 1: say how you pulled me out my bed and you 2758 03:01:53,360 --> 03:01:58,840 Speaker 1: we went to dinner and remember that. This is what 2759 03:01:58,959 --> 03:02:01,360 Speaker 1: track says he's drop with the jew. You gotta keep 2760 03:02:01,400 --> 03:02:04,640 Speaker 1: that too. But you want me to stay whether I 2761 03:02:04,800 --> 03:02:12,960 Speaker 1: gave you what you're reading, I gave you what your phone, 2762 03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:17,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that, But I don't know 2763 03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:29,640 Speaker 1: what I'd be precarious. Let's move away time listening. I'm 2764 03:02:29,720 --> 03:02:31,960 Speaker 1: only gonna be here for a little while. Bro, Like 2765 03:02:32,120 --> 03:02:35,920 Speaker 1: my life is should mentioned on this stage. I shouldn't 2766 03:02:35,959 --> 03:02:37,800 Speaker 1: have to stay there. Listen, I don't even deal what 2767 03:02:37,840 --> 03:02:40,080 Speaker 1: I had to do. Man, Now do we understand what 2768 03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:43,160 Speaker 1: the fund this means? Because come on, listen, you know 2769 03:02:43,200 --> 03:02:44,840 Speaker 1: what I got. I gotta I gotta shake out. I 2770 03:02:44,879 --> 03:02:46,800 Speaker 1: got a family, man, you give it? You breaking me? 2771 03:02:47,400 --> 03:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Yea disaway? Wait, I gotta make moves. Wait a minute, 2772 03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:53,959 Speaker 1: when I come through? How to come through? Right sometime? 2773 03:02:54,360 --> 03:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Right sometime. It gets some point where we gotta leave 2774 03:02:57,879 --> 03:03:01,199 Speaker 1: that ship behind. Wait, we gotta leave that ship behind 2775 03:03:01,280 --> 03:03:04,960 Speaker 1: and we gotta move forward, moving forward, Slim, don't need 2776 03:03:05,040 --> 03:03:07,360 Speaker 1: to do this. Let's speak clear clear. This is why 2777 03:03:07,400 --> 03:03:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm bringing it up. Don't start deviating over there, but 2778 03:03:09,720 --> 03:03:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm going overhead. We never. I don't need to do this. 2779 03:03:13,120 --> 03:03:15,000 Speaker 1: This is why I'm bringing to the table now because 2780 03:03:15,000 --> 03:03:17,640 Speaker 1: we all like old but a lot of us feel 2781 03:03:17,640 --> 03:03:19,400 Speaker 1: a certain way, but a lot of us won't say it. 2782 03:03:19,800 --> 03:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I gotta say it to Slim because whether he likes 2783 03:03:22,760 --> 03:03:25,000 Speaker 1: it or not, I'm his brother. I'm not a cheerleader. 2784 03:03:25,440 --> 03:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a jesting here. We could bump head, guess 2785 03:03:28,879 --> 03:03:30,720 Speaker 1: what at we should know where the funk I'm coming 2786 03:03:30,800 --> 03:03:33,480 Speaker 1: from and think I know where it's coming from. It's 2787 03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:36,640 Speaker 1: not a danger to me. You might not like me 2788 03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:38,960 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't like you all the time. 2789 03:03:39,120 --> 03:03:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm always love you. And you're gonna tell me how 2790 03:03:41,680 --> 03:03:44,199 Speaker 1: you feel. I would like to hear how you feel 2791 03:03:44,240 --> 03:03:47,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Speak clear. Stop playing on games man, 2792 03:03:47,600 --> 03:03:49,640 Speaker 1: That's not what we got in this for. It was 2793 03:03:49,760 --> 03:03:53,240 Speaker 1: just us then evolved now to us. We could keep 2794 03:03:53,280 --> 03:03:56,200 Speaker 1: it us, but all that trash ship, it's not about that. 2795 03:03:56,280 --> 03:03:59,959 Speaker 1: It's about us moving forward. I want to move forward. 2796 03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Hold you gotta defend it. I love you you, listen, 2797 03:04:03,760 --> 03:04:06,040 Speaker 1: Let's move forward. Slip you don't need to do this 2798 03:04:08,480 --> 03:04:13,160 Speaker 1: nice if at some point right because basically I'm asking, 2799 03:04:14,720 --> 03:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I want to do it one more time. I do. 2800 03:04:18,600 --> 03:04:26,160 Speaker 1: I want to do it more time because sim you know, Slim, 2801 03:04:26,480 --> 03:04:28,440 Speaker 1: when when like you know what I'm in in a 2802 03:04:28,520 --> 03:04:31,920 Speaker 1: minute now. Yeah, I disappeared. I guess when you know 2803 03:04:32,000 --> 03:04:37,560 Speaker 1: what a minute? Right? Man? When I'm in it, I'm 2804 03:04:37,600 --> 03:04:39,720 Speaker 1: in it. Let's get in it one time, man, just 2805 03:04:39,959 --> 03:04:42,600 Speaker 1: one last time. You know why. I think if we 2806 03:04:42,720 --> 03:04:45,959 Speaker 1: put out harsh and minds in it with everybody here collectively, 2807 03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:51,520 Speaker 1: that's some What is Griselda? What is Grizelda? Let me 2808 03:04:51,520 --> 03:04:54,520 Speaker 1: ask you that. What is grise Elda? It's an extension 2809 03:04:57,480 --> 03:04:59,880 Speaker 1: that makes a good point. I mean it was a 2810 03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:04,760 Speaker 1: says us energy, keep the same energy going forward. However 2811 03:05:04,879 --> 03:05:07,160 Speaker 1: we did it like we we all are in an 2812 03:05:07,240 --> 03:05:10,040 Speaker 1: out or we're all doing whatever. It isn't that same 2813 03:05:10,280 --> 03:05:13,320 Speaker 1: energy of not trying to do something commercial ship or 2814 03:05:13,360 --> 03:05:18,800 Speaker 1: trying to do I'm not gonna energy. Man, was not speaking, 2815 03:05:19,840 --> 03:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Stop putting that disappears. I think it's know what, you 2816 03:05:22,320 --> 03:05:24,920 Speaker 1: got a public watching this and you're sucking up my back. 2817 03:05:25,520 --> 03:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Don't do that because you know what when you call 2818 03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:30,320 Speaker 1: me slap and you like, yo, pull up, I'm pulling up. 2819 03:05:30,440 --> 03:05:34,000 Speaker 1: It's true days the first day, but listen any other time, 2820 03:05:34,160 --> 03:05:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm pulling up on my own cord because listen now, 2821 03:05:38,200 --> 03:05:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm spectfully because that ship gotta stay with shot. Listen, man, 2822 03:05:43,959 --> 03:05:47,720 Speaker 1: this nigga is the shot. People. I'm not prying. You 2823 03:05:47,760 --> 03:05:49,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what I mean like, 2824 03:05:49,320 --> 03:05:52,440 Speaker 1: but listen, I'm going forward side. I'd like to say 2825 03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:55,360 Speaker 1: that what I mean by that you live in your 2826 03:05:55,400 --> 03:05:59,039 Speaker 1: own world and once want one thing about it. Two 2827 03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:02,160 Speaker 1: things for sure. I lived in my own More. What 2828 03:06:02,320 --> 03:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I started to realize is in order for me to 2829 03:06:05,000 --> 03:06:07,800 Speaker 1: cant to them the proster, I gotta respect every one 2830 03:06:08,080 --> 03:06:11,000 Speaker 1: other world. Going to that world I'm swing to I. 2831 03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm going on to Delian. In order to get there, 2832 03:06:13,800 --> 03:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I gotta say here. I gotta make 2833 03:06:15,680 --> 03:06:18,280 Speaker 1: sure everyone likes me along this way. But once I 2834 03:06:18,400 --> 03:06:22,480 Speaker 1: get here, then I'm gonna be out. I just got 2835 03:06:22,480 --> 03:06:24,920 Speaker 1: out a clip today, but I said, Yo, you know what, 2836 03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't need you to be like this. I don't 2837 03:06:26,520 --> 03:06:28,959 Speaker 1: need you. I'm gonna always show you love because I'm 2838 03:06:28,959 --> 03:06:31,879 Speaker 1: gonna be who I am. And that's that's the problem 2839 03:06:31,959 --> 03:06:35,920 Speaker 1: with us. It's it's it's like me, you and component 2840 03:06:36,160 --> 03:06:40,160 Speaker 1: for me, You and Trash. We have the same problem 2841 03:06:40,320 --> 03:06:44,360 Speaker 1: that Tank have and we three year of us these 2842 03:06:44,520 --> 03:06:49,120 Speaker 1: motherfucker's is nine. There's no way we should have the 2843 03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:52,640 Speaker 1: same complications when it comes to a goal. Now, hit 2844 03:06:52,720 --> 03:06:55,080 Speaker 1: me out. What I mean by that is back then 2845 03:06:55,200 --> 03:06:57,280 Speaker 1: when when Bessas said, you know, we need to have 2846 03:06:57,520 --> 03:06:59,960 Speaker 1: nineteen songs done by such and such and such, they've 2847 03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:02,200 Speaker 1: all looked at Risen, it was like, what the fun? 2848 03:07:03,280 --> 03:07:06,800 Speaker 1: But then they all individually got artists. And then when 2849 03:07:06,879 --> 03:07:10,600 Speaker 1: that's they tried to buy that same they understood. So 2850 03:07:10,800 --> 03:07:13,400 Speaker 1: we when we at when you that's why we we 2851 03:07:13,560 --> 03:07:16,240 Speaker 1: started this where we said, yo, you know what trash. 2852 03:07:16,560 --> 03:07:18,400 Speaker 1: You know how you taught us, how do we calld 2853 03:07:18,520 --> 03:07:21,320 Speaker 1: like how you you so eloquently put and how you 2854 03:07:21,440 --> 03:07:25,080 Speaker 1: helped me in those certain ways. That's exactly what it is. 2855 03:07:25,200 --> 03:07:28,400 Speaker 1: But now it's just like now it's just like now 2856 03:07:28,480 --> 03:07:30,520 Speaker 1: like let's suppose we had we we said, we really said, 2857 03:07:30,520 --> 03:07:32,520 Speaker 1: you know what, tomorrow, you know what, it's like I 2858 03:07:32,600 --> 03:07:36,199 Speaker 1: wanted some flysh it. We just do it. It's tomorrow, 2859 03:07:36,400 --> 03:07:39,440 Speaker 1: right boom. Now we're going to Bahamas. Tomm made him 2860 03:07:39,800 --> 03:07:42,000 Speaker 1: calls that we fucking reduces that he knows, you know, 2861 03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:48,480 Speaker 1: goes every producing, mar goes everything, Nil calls every you know, 2862 03:07:49,080 --> 03:07:52,040 Speaker 1: uh ceo connected we got and we do it and 2863 03:07:52,160 --> 03:07:55,440 Speaker 1: then poem doesn't show up. Do you understand that I'm 2864 03:07:55,520 --> 03:07:59,400 Speaker 1: not showing up this time, that's not a fact, just home. 2865 03:08:00,520 --> 03:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Only showing up this time affects me, then affects you, 2866 03:08:04,920 --> 03:08:08,520 Speaker 1: and then that's if you make a round. And then 2867 03:08:08,560 --> 03:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the thing about it is, it's so harder for me 2868 03:08:12,280 --> 03:08:15,039 Speaker 1: now if I'm the only one committed. That's say, if 2869 03:08:15,080 --> 03:08:19,440 Speaker 1: you guys are not. But if but we would have, 2870 03:08:19,560 --> 03:08:22,240 Speaker 1: would not in a sense of let me be exactly 2871 03:08:22,320 --> 03:08:24,880 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. If wait, if we haven't 2872 03:08:24,920 --> 03:08:27,080 Speaker 1: sex it at six o'clock and now this time you 2873 03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:30,680 Speaker 1: say you showed up at six o'clock your time, I'm 2874 03:08:30,760 --> 03:08:34,000 Speaker 1: there at four. I want that same commitment. I want 2875 03:08:34,080 --> 03:08:36,800 Speaker 1: that same what session want to give me a sam 2876 03:08:36,959 --> 03:08:40,000 Speaker 1: It's not it's not shut out because you don't. We 2877 03:08:40,040 --> 03:08:43,200 Speaker 1: don't just keeping it great like I don't I don't know, 2878 03:08:43,400 --> 03:08:47,160 Speaker 1: non stop stop stop, but just hear me out it is. 2879 03:08:47,240 --> 03:08:48,720 Speaker 1: It is just kind of getting a little personal. You 2880 03:08:48,760 --> 03:08:51,280 Speaker 1: don't gotta go through command. I'm not going through that. 2881 03:08:51,440 --> 03:08:53,720 Speaker 1: And it's kind of personal with me. If somebody says 2882 03:08:53,760 --> 03:08:57,440 Speaker 1: something like that, that like I'm not that I don't 2883 03:08:57,440 --> 03:08:58,920 Speaker 1: know what, but hit me out for sex, and then 2884 03:08:59,040 --> 03:09:00,600 Speaker 1: that but hit my point. I'm trying to make it. 2885 03:09:00,640 --> 03:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me, let me clarify. See, 2886 03:09:03,400 --> 03:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the thing is like without in, it's just like it's 2887 03:09:12,200 --> 03:09:14,039 Speaker 1: just like not to say when you're not in, you're 2888 03:09:14,040 --> 03:09:15,560 Speaker 1: not in. Let to say when you're not in, you in. 2889 03:09:15,959 --> 03:09:19,720 Speaker 1: But the thing is, oh whan, I have to have 2890 03:09:19,840 --> 03:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the passion. I can't do nothing like I don't jerk 2891 03:09:22,959 --> 03:09:35,000 Speaker 1: off with Wait, you say you mean that I wanted, 2892 03:09:36,440 --> 03:09:47,000 Speaker 1: but I say, you know what, sion, You're show up 2893 03:09:48,040 --> 03:09:50,840 Speaker 1: out the kind of like you try to understand your 2894 03:09:50,879 --> 03:09:55,040 Speaker 1: influence a minute. Understand. It's just like it's just like 2895 03:09:55,160 --> 03:09:58,120 Speaker 1: when that show up. Stop. It's not that it's just 2896 03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:00,400 Speaker 1: not that don't do that. It's just that we all 2897 03:10:00,600 --> 03:10:09,280 Speaker 1: have certain commitments. Phone people are running. Today is the 2898 03:10:09,400 --> 03:10:14,280 Speaker 1: first time name name, No way if today is the 2899 03:10:14,320 --> 03:10:15,720 Speaker 1: second the name of folks, come on, I want you 2900 03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:20,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. You can't named name. I want 2901 03:10:20,080 --> 03:10:22,280 Speaker 1: you to because I only know I want to clean 2902 03:10:22,320 --> 03:10:24,240 Speaker 1: this up. I'm want to clean this upright because you 2903 03:10:24,360 --> 03:10:26,400 Speaker 1: put it in the air. And listen, don't put it 2904 03:10:26,440 --> 03:10:28,520 Speaker 1: in the air, because that you hold a shirt of 2905 03:10:28,600 --> 03:10:31,200 Speaker 1: form when you put it in the air. People run 2906 03:10:31,320 --> 03:10:34,760 Speaker 1: with that that's not necessarily good when it's not the hunt. 2907 03:10:35,200 --> 03:10:38,960 Speaker 1: True today is under true, today is a rue, but 2908 03:10:39,080 --> 03:10:41,640 Speaker 1: then today will be the one. Don't make don't make 2909 03:10:41,720 --> 03:10:43,920 Speaker 1: today seem like a two to three. It's like that, 2910 03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:46,640 Speaker 1: And don't jump on that because I'm not quitting. I'm 2911 03:10:46,680 --> 03:10:48,880 Speaker 1: not talking on anything. Don't do that. Don't do that. 2912 03:10:50,160 --> 03:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Bro't that what are we trying shot? Don't do that. 2913 03:11:04,840 --> 03:11:14,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about that, don't about talking about we connected. Listen, listen, 2914 03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:18,680 Speaker 1: don't understand. There's a time to place for everything right. 2915 03:11:19,320 --> 03:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Don't do that. A matter of fact, you're not gonna 2916 03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:22,960 Speaker 1: do that. You know what. Let me tell you why 2917 03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:25,160 Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that, because this is a public 2918 03:11:25,240 --> 03:11:27,960 Speaker 1: forum for sure. Don't listen. Man, you're not gonna do 2919 03:11:28,120 --> 03:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that because I'm not what I'm saying. What this boat. 2920 03:11:31,240 --> 03:11:33,320 Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that. Don't do that, because we 2921 03:11:33,520 --> 03:11:35,440 Speaker 1: do that. I look at something to play with like that. 2922 03:11:35,760 --> 03:11:39,640 Speaker 1: He said, turn out ship. He's and you're trying to 2923 03:11:39,720 --> 03:11:44,880 Speaker 1: allee you. But don't do that. I an't understanding. I 2924 03:11:45,000 --> 03:11:47,800 Speaker 1: am trusting because I don't understand that. I was gonna 2925 03:11:47,800 --> 03:11:49,880 Speaker 1: think about us this. We all gotta stept the all 2926 03:11:50,000 --> 03:11:53,680 Speaker 1: flows like me, like me, like me. Um, you know, 2927 03:11:53,959 --> 03:11:57,160 Speaker 1: when it came time for me to reach out and 2928 03:11:57,480 --> 03:12:00,840 Speaker 1: certain things, and when no one didn't reach out back 2929 03:12:00,879 --> 03:12:03,000 Speaker 1: to me, I would not that me. There's nothing wrong 2930 03:12:03,080 --> 03:12:07,520 Speaker 1: with that. It's that's that's that's exactly when. So what 2931 03:12:07,560 --> 03:12:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is but let's just say it's 2932 03:12:09,879 --> 03:12:13,400 Speaker 1: just say it. Had you've been accessible at that time, 2933 03:12:13,720 --> 03:12:15,560 Speaker 1: I might have not been able to reach out. Had 2934 03:12:15,560 --> 03:12:18,600 Speaker 1: you been accessible at that time, we made you listen. 2935 03:12:19,600 --> 03:12:23,959 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna think we're we're great where we are 2936 03:12:24,080 --> 03:12:27,039 Speaker 1: as completed. So we're saying moving forward. It wasn't say 2937 03:12:27,120 --> 03:12:31,600 Speaker 1: I was saying moving forward. I wasn't accessible because there 2938 03:12:31,680 --> 03:12:33,840 Speaker 1: was a time where we shouldn't have been accessible to 2939 03:12:34,120 --> 03:12:36,160 Speaker 1: we might have said some things that have made me worse. 2940 03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:40,760 Speaker 1: Let's keep it Blienbury. We both needed time for certain 2941 03:12:40,800 --> 03:12:44,680 Speaker 1: things at that time. Just keeping a green man time. 2942 03:12:44,920 --> 03:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah I needed time. Okayverybody need time. But bro moving 2943 03:12:49,160 --> 03:12:53,120 Speaker 1: forward for REALM who can't see any time I'm not 2944 03:12:53,200 --> 03:12:56,000 Speaker 1: to be called I'm pulling up and you know I'm 2945 03:12:56,000 --> 03:12:58,760 Speaker 1: gonna even pull up even I don't like to hear 2946 03:12:58,840 --> 03:13:01,480 Speaker 1: this type of ship good. It's not true. And I'm 2947 03:13:01,480 --> 03:13:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna fight for every stand, so make sure when you 2948 03:13:04,720 --> 03:13:08,520 Speaker 1: throw a stain you're willing to really establish it was 2949 03:13:08,600 --> 03:13:14,400 Speaker 1: at stake. But I'm what did you stop with? Tragic? 2950 03:13:14,680 --> 03:13:17,520 Speaker 1: What did you start with starting that? And where is 2951 03:13:17,520 --> 03:13:20,840 Speaker 1: it going? But that's what's the You always received what 2952 03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:32,560 Speaker 1: you say. He just says you say. No, Let's let's 2953 03:13:32,560 --> 03:13:34,520 Speaker 1: say at my point if the point is not not 2954 03:13:34,720 --> 03:13:39,000 Speaker 1: not about disappearing, it's about like you know, engaging and 2955 03:13:39,120 --> 03:13:42,640 Speaker 1: being and being active. You listen, the reason why this 2956 03:13:42,800 --> 03:13:44,840 Speaker 1: all happened is the way you came to me. And 2957 03:13:45,040 --> 03:13:48,000 Speaker 1: when you rolled it out, you had a vision everything 2958 03:13:48,040 --> 03:13:52,320 Speaker 1: straight up and and you dropped. Listen, listen, let finished, 2959 03:13:52,400 --> 03:13:55,280 Speaker 1: let me finish. Listen, right, don't er people like that. 2960 03:13:56,879 --> 03:13:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that like that came over that, but 2961 03:13:59,760 --> 03:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking. I mean, I'm not don't I don't 2962 03:14:08,480 --> 03:14:10,040 Speaker 1: do that. Don't do that. I didn't know what. I 2963 03:14:10,320 --> 03:14:12,680 Speaker 1: don't do it. You're not don't don't do that. I 2964 03:14:12,800 --> 03:14:15,560 Speaker 1: don't do that. You don't do that. It is that 2965 03:14:16,120 --> 03:14:20,320 Speaker 1: you're needed. Yeah, you're needed. That's a great way to 2966 03:14:20,360 --> 03:14:22,840 Speaker 1: put it. Great way, don't great, great morning and you 2967 03:14:22,879 --> 03:14:25,200 Speaker 1: need you? Yeah, gets a great way to put it. 2968 03:14:25,360 --> 03:14:27,360 Speaker 1: You you you can challenge me and you can met 2969 03:14:27,360 --> 03:14:29,320 Speaker 1: it verst and you can wear three in he was doing. 2970 03:14:29,360 --> 03:14:33,800 Speaker 1: He was problems like you're needed. I'm like, yo, trying 2971 03:14:37,680 --> 03:14:39,240 Speaker 1: cool cool. Let me bring it on you because now 2972 03:14:39,280 --> 03:14:41,000 Speaker 1: that you' bring it on yourself, we bring it on you. 2973 03:14:41,879 --> 03:14:44,280 Speaker 1: You let me do you The reason why? The reason 2974 03:14:44,360 --> 03:14:47,560 Speaker 1: why is is that what he said at that point. 2975 03:14:47,720 --> 03:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't compute it you, chill. I don't want to 2976 03:14:50,160 --> 03:14:52,920 Speaker 1: make it about anybody could beat I can't communicate and 2977 03:14:52,920 --> 03:14:56,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't say, yo, Slim, I need your help. Na's 2978 03:14:56,920 --> 03:14:58,880 Speaker 1: just cooling me to get him the firm. I don't 2979 03:14:59,080 --> 03:15:02,199 Speaker 1: can't relate to that. I don't know what to call Chill. 2980 03:15:03,720 --> 03:15:07,200 Speaker 1: You wanted us to prove it on us to prove 2981 03:15:07,480 --> 03:15:09,480 Speaker 1: and when I reached out, I was I had no 2982 03:15:09,600 --> 03:15:12,480 Speaker 1: one else to call. Told I don't want to say 2983 03:15:12,520 --> 03:15:14,560 Speaker 1: what you said to us well last time I spoke 2984 03:15:14,600 --> 03:15:16,560 Speaker 1: to you, But I'm not don't do that right now, 2985 03:15:16,720 --> 03:15:19,120 Speaker 1: will I'm not I'm not doing I know what I said. 2986 03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm ready to go both faces 2987 03:15:22,959 --> 03:15:25,360 Speaker 1: take both faces, and I remember I asked you to 2988 03:15:25,440 --> 03:15:28,680 Speaker 1: come with me to l A. I could not get 2989 03:15:28,720 --> 03:15:39,400 Speaker 1: your No. I never said that your fo. What I 2990 03:15:39,520 --> 03:15:41,680 Speaker 1: saying was what I side came to me out of 2991 03:15:41,800 --> 03:15:45,440 Speaker 1: nowhere in here, man, speak to me for months. Let's 2992 03:15:45,520 --> 03:15:47,560 Speaker 1: way around. You wouldn't get speak to me for one. 2993 03:15:47,600 --> 03:15:49,760 Speaker 1: You want to lead, Now you gotta understand, you will 2994 03:15:49,800 --> 03:15:54,600 Speaker 1: not understanding. Wait a minute, our medium's gone. Yes, agreed, 2995 03:15:54,680 --> 03:15:56,720 Speaker 1: you want to really like? Come on, man, I don't 2996 03:15:56,760 --> 03:15:58,720 Speaker 1: want to. I don't wonder what you like. I'm gonna 2997 03:15:58,720 --> 03:16:01,760 Speaker 1: be here. Come on, I'm done. I'm not the sort 2998 03:16:01,800 --> 03:16:03,680 Speaker 1: of things I'm not gonna saying. I'm looking at I'm 2999 03:16:03,720 --> 03:16:07,000 Speaker 1: not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not nothing. 3000 03:16:07,400 --> 03:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Slap me. And you was not speaking son the last time. 3001 03:16:11,440 --> 03:16:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean you stop speaking. You said some amazy ship 3002 03:16:14,560 --> 03:16:16,840 Speaker 1: back then. You took about twenty five years. Listen, but 3003 03:16:16,959 --> 03:16:19,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about tree five years ago. Okay, when you 3004 03:16:19,200 --> 03:16:20,640 Speaker 1: said you called me, was like, yeah, I want you 3005 03:16:20,680 --> 03:16:22,640 Speaker 1: to come to me, to l A. There's a reason 3006 03:16:22,720 --> 03:16:25,880 Speaker 1: why you Okay, I didn't hear that. Maybe maybe I 3007 03:16:25,959 --> 03:16:27,840 Speaker 1: didn't give you anybody. But let me just say something 3008 03:16:28,120 --> 03:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to say back then, I couldn't reach you back then, 3009 03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:34,080 Speaker 1: when I couldn't reach you for telling me you want 3010 03:16:34,120 --> 03:16:37,280 Speaker 1: to leave? Why would I don't want to? Right, I'll 3011 03:16:37,360 --> 03:16:41,040 Speaker 1: let you. I'll let you talk first. I like, I 3012 03:16:41,040 --> 03:16:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know. You gave up your opportunity. Okay, I got one, 3013 03:16:46,879 --> 03:16:49,320 Speaker 1: but hear me. I'll here's what. Here's what I'm trying 3014 03:16:49,360 --> 03:16:54,160 Speaker 1: to say. It is so wet, wrap up. Here's what 3015 03:16:54,200 --> 03:16:59,120 Speaker 1: I say it was back then, I wanted, I wanted 3016 03:16:59,200 --> 03:17:02,000 Speaker 1: to reach out and when the reach out wasn't available, 3017 03:17:02,400 --> 03:17:05,040 Speaker 1: That's how I took it. Now, I might have been 3018 03:17:05,160 --> 03:17:07,880 Speaker 1: describing it in the wrong way, but there's each of 3019 03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:12,160 Speaker 1: every individual here that has a trashy adopted You know how? 3020 03:17:13,200 --> 03:17:16,360 Speaker 1: You know how? First of well, don't do that. You 3021 03:17:16,480 --> 03:17:19,960 Speaker 1: know how disappeared on you. You have a disappear on me. 3022 03:17:21,040 --> 03:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Wait time, I stop, stop stopping. Then 3023 03:17:27,640 --> 03:17:31,000 Speaker 1: don't magnify the trash disappearance if you're wait a minute, 3024 03:17:31,240 --> 03:17:34,720 Speaker 1: when the movie disappearance eat on the other side of 3025 03:17:34,840 --> 03:17:37,160 Speaker 1: tan you bro. But the difference with trans this, I 3026 03:17:37,280 --> 03:17:39,360 Speaker 1: just don't bring that up. Lord as I get you. 3027 03:17:39,480 --> 03:17:43,400 Speaker 1: When I get you, now, what's what's the what's the 3028 03:17:43,520 --> 03:17:51,600 Speaker 1: bigger picture up? Don't do that. We're talk listen, stop 3029 03:17:51,720 --> 03:17:59,760 Speaker 1: doing that to me. Keep you keep because you don't. 3030 03:18:00,080 --> 03:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't do that, bro, I mean because you know 3031 03:18:02,000 --> 03:18:07,880 Speaker 1: how wants you're saying, it's the first time. I oh, 3032 03:18:08,120 --> 03:18:11,200 Speaker 1: don't see that. Take a baby, I would ever laugh 3033 03:18:12,360 --> 03:18:15,880 Speaker 1: telling it's beautiful. She gotta be say we just please. 3034 03:18:17,040 --> 03:18:19,280 Speaker 1: This is all that's all tracks. Tracks. You're taking a 3035 03:18:19,320 --> 03:18:20,920 Speaker 1: way to go. I'm playing around most of the ship. 3036 03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm playing around. But don't play like that because I'm 3037 03:18:24,200 --> 03:18:29,680 Speaker 1: not playing because you are playing. That's confused. It's still 3038 03:18:32,400 --> 03:18:35,760 Speaker 1: don't take its confus See, I don't know, I don't know, 3039 03:18:35,760 --> 03:18:38,640 Speaker 1: don't know like this wanting none of the table on, 3040 03:18:38,720 --> 03:18:41,160 Speaker 1: tap on my leg, this stick and kicking my want. 3041 03:18:44,800 --> 03:18:49,960 Speaker 1: That's how you're doing this ship. I love you. I 3042 03:18:54,000 --> 03:19:03,400 Speaker 1: try it crazy man. That's how felt like a tour 3043 03:19:03,640 --> 03:19:12,120 Speaker 1: part I just when coming age. Hell yeah, and you know, 3044 03:19:12,800 --> 03:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you know most of the parts. Playing around, but I 3045 03:19:15,360 --> 03:19:17,320 Speaker 1: think about it is what made the greatest, the whole 3046 03:19:17,360 --> 03:19:20,840 Speaker 1: collective for you know, as much as I can say 3047 03:19:22,720 --> 03:19:25,320 Speaker 1: around and I can say, yo, you know what, it 3048 03:19:25,480 --> 03:19:28,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a poem. You know, me and Trash wren't connected. 3049 03:19:29,360 --> 03:19:32,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't trash, Me and Neil weren't connected. It wasn't 3050 03:19:32,600 --> 03:19:38,120 Speaker 1: trash men. Um, Martin wouldn't connected, uh, and then made him, 3051 03:19:38,440 --> 03:19:40,560 Speaker 1: and then Gino felt like even though I would made him, 3052 03:19:40,560 --> 03:19:42,480 Speaker 1: and generally you know what I mean. You know, you 3053 03:19:42,520 --> 03:19:44,720 Speaker 1: know I did it opposite way. And we can say 3054 03:19:44,760 --> 03:19:46,680 Speaker 1: that because we can say that all day long, but 3055 03:19:46,840 --> 03:19:51,240 Speaker 1: it's it's really the collective that made it something special. Um. 3056 03:19:51,879 --> 03:19:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, as I was making the War Report, did 3057 03:19:53,800 --> 03:19:59,280 Speaker 1: I think I was making something special? No? I knew 3058 03:19:59,320 --> 03:20:03,720 Speaker 1: I was making some of that was unique. I didn't 3059 03:20:03,720 --> 03:20:06,040 Speaker 1: know who was gonna stand us at a time. The 3060 03:20:06,360 --> 03:20:12,760 Speaker 1: twenty five years later, I'll be still sitting here totally 3061 03:20:12,879 --> 03:20:19,280 Speaker 1: separate gigs, totally separate world, and be sitting here big 3062 03:20:19,400 --> 03:20:22,800 Speaker 1: in it up to these people, and I'm thankful for that. 3063 03:20:23,360 --> 03:20:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for it. Is it perfect? No, I think 3064 03:20:26,920 --> 03:20:31,760 Speaker 1: we proved tonight that it's not perfect. I think we 3065 03:20:31,879 --> 03:20:37,200 Speaker 1: proved that. But we got someone who's on the bo 3066 03:20:37,280 --> 03:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Report album. Yeah help us. We've always heard yeah, just 3067 03:21:00,640 --> 03:21:05,760 Speaker 1: fed with up? Everybody with up? What's going on? Piece 3068 03:21:05,800 --> 03:21:09,280 Speaker 1: of godna be else. I'm gonna be honest, um, and 3069 03:21:09,560 --> 03:21:12,760 Speaker 1: I would like you. I ain't sitting him on either, yes, okay, 3070 03:21:15,280 --> 03:21:22,160 Speaker 1: but I'm just now and I was a consumption that 3071 03:21:22,440 --> 03:21:30,640 Speaker 1: as an emphatical now but but just because he's basically 3072 03:21:30,720 --> 03:21:35,080 Speaker 1: god in case, one of the first people to show 3073 03:21:35,200 --> 03:21:41,360 Speaker 1: CNN U outside of vodka. Right, in my opinion, what's 3074 03:21:41,400 --> 03:21:48,840 Speaker 1: bostrack soundtrack studio? Was this sounds soundtracks? Yeah, I was 3075 03:21:48,920 --> 03:21:51,640 Speaker 1: your soundtracks day. He had a wins line. I was 3076 03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:53,880 Speaker 1: you had have red you had red Mind? In the 3077 03:21:53,959 --> 03:21:56,200 Speaker 1: scream was your soundtrack your red Mind? And man, I 3078 03:21:56,200 --> 03:21:58,800 Speaker 1: remember I was living in sound tracks at the back 3079 03:21:59,200 --> 03:22:07,000 Speaker 1: with CNN was my favorite. Okay, the first rapine wasn't 3080 03:22:07,120 --> 03:22:11,360 Speaker 1: wrack you had red Wine? And that we all because 3081 03:22:11,360 --> 03:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I was hating that really chicken, I was just being 3082 03:22:16,160 --> 03:22:25,760 Speaker 1: introduced to some flying Remember that's all. That driver's seat 3083 03:22:25,840 --> 03:22:33,120 Speaker 1: was done in soundtrack. It was what you do Now 3084 03:22:33,200 --> 03:22:36,360 Speaker 1: that's a unique to one on a street. Of course, 3085 03:22:36,400 --> 03:22:39,240 Speaker 1: from from that, when you like that definitely wasn't soundtrack, No, 3086 03:22:39,720 --> 03:22:49,640 Speaker 1: definitely soundtrack track. When I felt in love, when I 3087 03:22:49,800 --> 03:22:54,120 Speaker 1: was expressing how much I loved that album, I was 3088 03:22:54,200 --> 03:22:56,880 Speaker 1: living in soundtrack. That was already afterwards, me and Marv 3089 03:22:57,080 --> 03:23:00,360 Speaker 1: was actually living in soundtrack. So that's a were not 3090 03:23:00,480 --> 03:23:03,440 Speaker 1: We're not sound Yeah, that's the only stud I went 3091 03:23:03,520 --> 03:23:07,600 Speaker 1: for that remember, making no mistake with that. I remember 3092 03:23:07,720 --> 03:23:10,800 Speaker 1: my first four solo albums in that studio and tried 3093 03:23:10,879 --> 03:23:12,360 Speaker 1: to do some of the fifth one in there. But 3094 03:23:12,440 --> 03:23:14,680 Speaker 1: then they started to change the doing more movie scoring 3095 03:23:14,720 --> 03:23:18,800 Speaker 1: television ship, and they wasn't facilitating for you know, regular album, 3096 03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:23,360 Speaker 1: honest recording ship. They business started to get they would 3097 03:23:23,360 --> 03:23:27,400 Speaker 1: generate more revenue from television and movie scoring. Time was changing. 3098 03:23:28,680 --> 03:23:33,840 Speaker 1: But when we did Driver Seat, Norman told me what 3099 03:23:33,920 --> 03:23:36,560 Speaker 1: studio to come to. I don't remember the studio fight 3100 03:23:36,640 --> 03:23:46,240 Speaker 1: them out right, but you guys remember, But how did 3101 03:23:46,280 --> 03:23:49,480 Speaker 1: you guys meet? Though? Before that, I don't recall what 3102 03:23:49,600 --> 03:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the exact date was. I just knew, and I don't 3103 03:23:53,680 --> 03:24:01,560 Speaker 1: recall how I just knew Teal when that record was 3104 03:24:01,680 --> 03:24:05,320 Speaker 1: fucking me up. And the fact that Poem was in 3105 03:24:05,480 --> 03:24:09,440 Speaker 1: jail and had such a presence on the album. I 3106 03:24:09,480 --> 03:24:14,840 Speaker 1: ain't never seen that before, and the phone calls from 3107 03:24:14,879 --> 03:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the jail cell on the skits and all of that, 3108 03:24:17,680 --> 03:24:22,240 Speaker 1: that to me was a different type of camaraderie and 3109 03:24:23,320 --> 03:24:27,120 Speaker 1: loyalty and love and it was refreshing and it was 3110 03:24:27,320 --> 03:24:29,760 Speaker 1: it was It was interesting because I was like, yeah, 3111 03:24:31,320 --> 03:24:35,360 Speaker 1: is this allowed? But I was saying, like, could you 3112 03:24:35,440 --> 03:24:40,720 Speaker 1: actually be on the phone from the penut and then 3113 03:24:41,120 --> 03:24:43,600 Speaker 1: the ship is on the record when you know and 3114 03:24:43,680 --> 03:24:47,520 Speaker 1: jail they were called in everything, and I was definitely 3115 03:24:47,560 --> 03:24:51,320 Speaker 1: wondering if there was repercussions for that. I had a 3116 03:24:51,360 --> 03:24:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of questions, but I ain't really worried about anything. 3117 03:24:55,240 --> 03:24:57,000 Speaker 1: That wasn't for me to worry about. If they wasn't 3118 03:24:57,000 --> 03:24:59,160 Speaker 1: worried about it. They was doing whatever they was doing 3119 03:24:59,240 --> 03:25:02,000 Speaker 1: and I was just yeah, spunging it up and I 3120 03:25:02,160 --> 03:25:08,440 Speaker 1: was in love with it. And the way they sounded 3121 03:25:08,520 --> 03:25:13,360 Speaker 1: on these records, it was was weird because all of 3122 03:25:13,400 --> 03:25:16,840 Speaker 1: them sounded like it was similar but with different voice tones. 3123 03:25:18,320 --> 03:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Tragic Pone and Norri had a flow pattern that no 3124 03:25:22,720 --> 03:25:27,080 Speaker 1: one else was doing. It was like it was like 3125 03:25:28,200 --> 03:25:36,080 Speaker 1: this uh see me, see me smarised me, like it 3126 03:25:36,200 --> 03:25:41,440 Speaker 1: was this real like ship it was. It was. It 3127 03:25:41,600 --> 03:25:46,119 Speaker 1: was like it was like the Snarley, I don't give 3128 03:25:46,160 --> 03:25:52,840 Speaker 1: a fuck. I'm super criminal and I'm super unpolished to 3129 03:25:53,040 --> 03:25:58,720 Speaker 1: what politically correct ship was and We're still active enough 3130 03:25:58,760 --> 03:26:03,520 Speaker 1: to go back to jail. That's what they felt like, literally, 3131 03:26:04,280 --> 03:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and that album made me call Chris and say, that's 3132 03:26:14,600 --> 03:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the album that made me call Chris and say, nigger, 3133 03:26:19,120 --> 03:26:21,360 Speaker 1: if you don't sign them and make sure that they're 3134 03:26:21,360 --> 03:26:24,520 Speaker 1: on our team, I am going to be very angry 3135 03:26:24,560 --> 03:26:30,920 Speaker 1: at you. I called Chris and harassed him about snatching 3136 03:26:31,000 --> 03:26:34,080 Speaker 1: him up to be with Violator because Violator was the 3137 03:26:34,120 --> 03:26:37,800 Speaker 1: strongest team at the time, and Chris and him was 3138 03:26:37,840 --> 03:26:40,360 Speaker 1: already doing such a great job at getting me elite 3139 03:26:40,440 --> 03:26:43,040 Speaker 1: niggers to be a part of the team, and the 3140 03:26:43,160 --> 03:26:46,960 Speaker 1: more and more that the team got the greats at 3141 03:26:47,040 --> 03:26:50,480 Speaker 1: the time, the volkon of us coming together just looked 3142 03:26:50,520 --> 03:26:53,640 Speaker 1: super strong, and I just wanted to make sure that 3143 03:26:54,280 --> 03:26:57,040 Speaker 1: our team was the strongest, just coming from being a 3144 03:26:57,120 --> 03:27:00,200 Speaker 1: team player. I was always a part of groups, so, 3145 03:27:00,720 --> 03:27:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, leaders and then Flip Moan and then Violated, 3146 03:27:03,480 --> 03:27:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, Nick, I just want my team strong as 3147 03:27:05,920 --> 03:27:09,200 Speaker 1: a momfuck all the time. Whatever team I'm with, they 3148 03:27:09,240 --> 03:27:11,560 Speaker 1: gotta be the strongest team, you know what I'm saying. 3149 03:27:11,840 --> 03:27:14,360 Speaker 1: So that was the perspective at the time, and for me, 3150 03:27:15,160 --> 03:27:21,320 Speaker 1: I just was like what they was doing, it was 3151 03:27:21,440 --> 03:27:25,800 Speaker 1: like nobody could work with it and no capacity. I 3152 03:27:25,879 --> 03:27:30,879 Speaker 1: think I said, put a bogeye out in your face, 3153 03:27:31,040 --> 03:27:44,200 Speaker 1: astray face that because he kind of said it too, 3154 03:27:44,560 --> 03:27:56,400 Speaker 1: and he's off the No Bullshit DVD man Um being 3155 03:27:56,520 --> 03:28:01,680 Speaker 1: speaking Bill, Bill, you know what it was for me? 3156 03:28:02,320 --> 03:28:04,000 Speaker 1: It was like, you know a lot of dudes is 3157 03:28:04,080 --> 03:28:07,920 Speaker 1: popping and everybody we went to they didn't no way 3158 03:28:07,920 --> 03:28:13,560 Speaker 1: to support the movement. But she was popping. Smart than 3159 03:28:16,040 --> 03:28:17,520 Speaker 1: you know what I think because you just said it 3160 03:28:17,840 --> 03:28:20,400 Speaker 1: right there. But I didn't know all that about Chris 3161 03:28:21,080 --> 03:28:25,039 Speaker 1: was smart because you saw the future coming, no question 3162 03:28:25,160 --> 03:28:27,600 Speaker 1: you didn't. You could not be left out. Nah, And 3163 03:28:27,720 --> 03:28:31,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe this, this talk 3164 03:28:32,640 --> 03:28:34,920 Speaker 1: and the way that the talk, the talk and the 3165 03:28:35,080 --> 03:28:39,160 Speaker 1: way that Queen's Bridge and left frac Ship. I'm not 3166 03:28:39,240 --> 03:28:43,480 Speaker 1: even I didn't understand why they was talking like that. 3167 03:28:45,480 --> 03:28:48,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't saying nothing that wasn't super different from what 3168 03:28:48,920 --> 03:28:51,600 Speaker 1: any of us were saying. It was how they were 3169 03:28:51,720 --> 03:28:57,560 Speaker 1: saying it. Everything had like this, Every ball had like 3170 03:28:59,200 --> 03:29:03,000 Speaker 1: it was like down word it went downward as the 3171 03:29:03,120 --> 03:29:09,160 Speaker 1: end of the back. It was like it was like yization. 3172 03:29:10,280 --> 03:29:13,119 Speaker 1: It was it was like like it's perspective not yo. 3173 03:29:14,760 --> 03:29:17,760 Speaker 1: It was so now. It was just like why these 3174 03:29:17,800 --> 03:29:24,320 Speaker 1: niggas just talking like this and then you change, get 3175 03:29:24,400 --> 03:29:28,680 Speaker 1: you away. It's like everything went from here to here 3176 03:29:34,720 --> 03:29:54,520 Speaker 1: mind nig trashed in on me like this when I 3177 03:29:54,640 --> 03:29:57,760 Speaker 1: was when I when I heard, I was like before sun, 3178 03:29:57,920 --> 03:29:59,680 Speaker 1: I was like, this is I heard the same ship 3179 03:29:59,760 --> 03:30:02,000 Speaker 1: you heard with that energy whatever it was, I was 3180 03:30:02,040 --> 03:30:08,520 Speaker 1: like it was but she was doing it too, soar Flowers, 3181 03:30:08,560 --> 03:30:10,360 Speaker 1: because let me just be clear. Let me just be clear. 3182 03:30:10,879 --> 03:30:16,440 Speaker 1: When that happened underground, I would hear people talk about us. 3183 03:30:16,480 --> 03:30:19,000 Speaker 1: I would hear people talk about our movement. No one 3184 03:30:19,160 --> 03:30:24,280 Speaker 1: publicly ever coastack Yeah, no one public. You know it's 3185 03:30:24,320 --> 03:30:27,680 Speaker 1: not let me say that, you can't hurt it. Yeah, 3186 03:30:27,760 --> 03:30:33,560 Speaker 1: that's what hurt is official Coast Listen what I was 3187 03:30:33,600 --> 03:30:36,959 Speaker 1: gonna say that's would hurt it because I'm not gonna 3188 03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:39,640 Speaker 1: sit here. I'm not gonna sit here. I'm not hitting 3189 03:30:39,720 --> 03:30:44,240 Speaker 1: down nobody. Don't down me. I'm not don't see it. 3190 03:30:44,520 --> 03:30:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm not know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna say it. 3191 03:30:48,760 --> 03:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Everybody I approached, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say everybody. 3192 03:30:56,280 --> 03:31:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say everybody approached that. But I closed 3193 03:31:00,520 --> 03:31:06,000 Speaker 1: doors was love. But in the public. You gotta understand 3194 03:31:06,120 --> 03:31:09,000 Speaker 1: something though about our city, right, which is an unfortunate 3195 03:31:09,120 --> 03:31:16,800 Speaker 1: reality about our city when she evolved from the public 3196 03:31:16,959 --> 03:31:20,000 Speaker 1: enemies and the llls and the run d m c s. 3197 03:31:20,480 --> 03:31:23,960 Speaker 1: You gotta remember them niggas didn't have clicks and they 3198 03:31:24,080 --> 03:31:27,000 Speaker 1: wasn't They just was trying to be the dopest niggers 3199 03:31:27,080 --> 03:31:29,240 Speaker 1: to contribute to hip hop in a significant way. But 3200 03:31:30,800 --> 03:31:34,199 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. See that change brought about 3201 03:31:34,280 --> 03:31:37,360 Speaker 1: two things, the blessing of putting new artists on and 3202 03:31:37,480 --> 03:31:42,760 Speaker 1: breaking artists and being an artist to do it. But 3203 03:31:42,879 --> 03:31:46,080 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. Let me add on, being 3204 03:31:46,160 --> 03:31:48,320 Speaker 1: an artist to put on an artist and break an 3205 03:31:48,400 --> 03:31:54,040 Speaker 1: artist was a new thing, right, you help champion that. 3206 03:31:54,680 --> 03:31:57,760 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is what also started to happen in 3207 03:31:57,840 --> 03:32:04,840 Speaker 1: the process is code of ethics change. So now you 3208 03:32:04,959 --> 03:32:10,280 Speaker 1: got artists putting on artists and it becoming a challenge 3209 03:32:10,360 --> 03:32:15,039 Speaker 1: between the artists because you're not just an executive, you're 3210 03:32:15,040 --> 03:32:20,320 Speaker 1: an artist too. It's difficult, It's very difficult because it's different. 3211 03:32:20,480 --> 03:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Fact a lot of artists that's trying to be artists. Still, 3212 03:32:24,760 --> 03:32:31,920 Speaker 1: while you can competitiveness, you can't the competitive nature of 3213 03:32:32,080 --> 03:32:35,240 Speaker 1: New York Motherfucker's in particularly, I mean it's everywhere, but 3214 03:32:35,320 --> 03:32:41,200 Speaker 1: in New York, right was also the death of New 3215 03:32:41,280 --> 03:32:44,840 Speaker 1: York still having clicks. New York don't click up the 3216 03:32:44,920 --> 03:32:51,680 Speaker 1: way everybody it's now. You know, if I signed, if 3217 03:32:51,720 --> 03:32:53,640 Speaker 1: I ain't helping you, if you ain't signed to me, 3218 03:32:54,760 --> 03:32:58,959 Speaker 1: that's what it became. So it's like, if I can't 3219 03:32:59,000 --> 03:33:01,960 Speaker 1: profit from you, blow up. I'm not. I ain't fucking 3220 03:33:02,040 --> 03:33:05,000 Speaker 1: with you, when that's not the way it's supposed to be. 3221 03:33:06,120 --> 03:33:09,480 Speaker 1: If we the city, rep the city and not even 3222 03:33:09,680 --> 03:33:12,879 Speaker 1: the city, just rep was dope because you ain't gotta 3223 03:33:12,920 --> 03:33:16,000 Speaker 1: even be from the city, The rep was dope. O 3224 03:33:16,160 --> 03:33:19,160 Speaker 1: T Genesis ain't from New York, but he was dope 3225 03:33:19,200 --> 03:33:22,720 Speaker 1: to me. Rock did get a from New York. She's 3226 03:33:22,760 --> 03:33:27,240 Speaker 1: from Jersey. She's incredible. To me, I don't give a 3227 03:33:27,360 --> 03:33:29,959 Speaker 1: funk were you from because the way I was raised 3228 03:33:30,440 --> 03:33:33,000 Speaker 1: was the goal at the end of the day, was 3229 03:33:33,080 --> 03:33:35,280 Speaker 1: to make sure that our contribution to the culture was 3230 03:33:35,320 --> 03:33:41,360 Speaker 1: a significant one. So contribute, keep doing your job to 3231 03:33:41,520 --> 03:33:45,160 Speaker 1: advance and push the culture forward. Get your emotions and 3232 03:33:45,200 --> 03:33:47,760 Speaker 1: your ego out the way. The greatest niggas that were 3233 03:33:47,879 --> 03:33:52,240 Speaker 1: artists that became executives, and I used this one motherfucker 3234 03:33:52,280 --> 03:33:57,560 Speaker 1: as an example. It's dre because he was an artist, 3235 03:33:58,760 --> 03:34:04,440 Speaker 1: but Dre had no problem making sure he broke every 3236 03:34:04,520 --> 03:34:12,000 Speaker 1: nigga from the first album Snoop, Game five, Eminem. He 3237 03:34:12,400 --> 03:34:14,640 Speaker 1: he may not even work on any more albums after 3238 03:34:14,680 --> 03:34:17,400 Speaker 1: the first one, but he'll make sure that first ship 3239 03:34:17,640 --> 03:34:20,879 Speaker 1: is so phenomenal you don't even need to call them 3240 03:34:20,920 --> 03:34:24,880 Speaker 1: no more. And the crazy ship is the crazy ship 3241 03:34:25,040 --> 03:34:28,920 Speaker 1: is he does it so consistently that he could put 3242 03:34:28,959 --> 03:34:33,080 Speaker 1: out one album every twenty years, that's the fact. And 3243 03:34:33,200 --> 03:34:36,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, making such a stellar 3244 03:34:36,440 --> 03:34:41,200 Speaker 1: success and such a significant contribution to the culture that 3245 03:34:41,440 --> 03:34:44,520 Speaker 1: is comfortable with not even trying to compete. He's so 3246 03:34:44,680 --> 03:34:48,360 Speaker 1: relevant without it, and it's bols up looks bigger than 3247 03:34:48,440 --> 03:34:51,640 Speaker 1: everyone's and his bag still ends up being bigger than everyone's. 3248 03:34:51,920 --> 03:34:55,440 Speaker 1: Not because he's robbing anybody, because he's not. He's out 3249 03:34:55,480 --> 03:34:57,760 Speaker 1: the way he after the first one. So whatever you 3250 03:34:57,879 --> 03:35:01,680 Speaker 1: do with whoever else that way that pockets sliced up 3251 03:35:01,879 --> 03:35:05,840 Speaker 1: was between you and them. He ain't even involved. But 3252 03:35:06,040 --> 03:35:08,520 Speaker 1: you you know, he's still you know the label that 3253 03:35:08,879 --> 03:35:13,240 Speaker 1: is you're signed to. Yeah, whatever amount of albums that 3254 03:35:13,440 --> 03:35:15,440 Speaker 1: gotta come out after that, that's still after math. He 3255 03:35:15,520 --> 03:35:19,160 Speaker 1: get his cut because he's a part of that deal structure, 3256 03:35:19,520 --> 03:35:22,080 Speaker 1: but you still make all your decisions that you want. 3257 03:35:22,600 --> 03:35:26,480 Speaker 1: And he said, like this, but but but but with 3258 03:35:26,680 --> 03:35:31,120 Speaker 1: that being said, it didn't matter if it was Eminem 3259 03:35:31,160 --> 03:35:35,320 Speaker 1: from Detroit, Game from l A Fifth from New York, 3260 03:35:36,280 --> 03:35:40,880 Speaker 1: Kendrick from l A Bus Rhymes from New York, Mary J. 3261 03:35:41,040 --> 03:35:44,240 Speaker 1: Blige from New York that didn't come out, so that 3262 03:35:45,640 --> 03:35:48,200 Speaker 1: we talked him out. The ship that came out, you know, 3263 03:35:50,640 --> 03:35:55,039 Speaker 1: he delivered because of what was dope and it wasn't 3264 03:35:55,040 --> 03:35:58,200 Speaker 1: about Nigga. I ain't helping you if you ain't signed 3265 03:35:58,240 --> 03:36:03,560 Speaker 1: to me, And that's what's important. A lot of these 3266 03:36:03,600 --> 03:36:05,959 Speaker 1: other cities you don't even know how to be signed 3267 03:36:06,000 --> 03:36:10,279 Speaker 1: to each other, but they will rhyme on five albums 3268 03:36:10,720 --> 03:36:13,400 Speaker 1: of different projects with each other to make sure they 3269 03:36:13,560 --> 03:36:19,920 Speaker 1: keep each other up motherfucking right and jumping every video 3270 03:36:21,680 --> 03:36:25,520 Speaker 1: and pull up to each other's shows and go to 3271 03:36:25,640 --> 03:36:29,879 Speaker 1: the fashion shows together and they'll go to the each 3272 03:36:29,879 --> 03:36:33,000 Speaker 1: other crab and it's it's beautiful to see that. And 3273 03:36:33,120 --> 03:36:37,080 Speaker 1: that's the ship New York mission. Now there's a lot 3274 03:36:37,160 --> 03:36:39,160 Speaker 1: of the newer motherfucker's that's doing that, and I'm glad 3275 03:36:39,160 --> 03:36:42,360 Speaker 1: it's getting back to that. But fit like the crew 3276 03:36:42,560 --> 03:36:46,400 Speaker 1: I love lift fit Nigger. Let's shout Davy, shout Joe, shout, 3277 03:36:48,800 --> 03:36:51,840 Speaker 1: funk you me. And they're showing with that camaraderie and 3278 03:36:51,959 --> 03:36:55,200 Speaker 1: that coming together to form a new voltron is about 3279 03:36:55,280 --> 03:36:58,320 Speaker 1: in the current time and space. And it's important to 3280 03:36:58,400 --> 03:37:00,600 Speaker 1: see that. You know what I'm saying. And I love 3281 03:37:01,280 --> 03:37:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, Fabio moving and shaking the way he moved 3282 03:37:04,400 --> 03:37:06,600 Speaker 1: when I loved. I have to show it over there 3283 03:37:06,720 --> 03:37:10,480 Speaker 1: or six times straight I pulled up to that. You say, 3284 03:37:10,520 --> 03:37:12,880 Speaker 1: you're not drinking, but we do know you just celebrated 3285 03:37:12,920 --> 03:37:22,080 Speaker 1: your birthdays. A little thank you man. They get a 3286 03:37:22,160 --> 03:37:26,160 Speaker 1: chance to build with the last time rest peace bis services. Yeah, yeah, 3287 03:37:26,480 --> 03:37:30,080 Speaker 1: last time. I ain't really bear with you because yeah 3288 03:37:30,120 --> 03:37:32,040 Speaker 1: you us with scritch and look how many with a 3289 03:37:32,160 --> 03:37:36,720 Speaker 1: launched since bisch rest in peace because you know I'm 3290 03:37:36,760 --> 03:37:40,520 Speaker 1: having about cooking the government and just it's not it 3291 03:37:40,560 --> 03:37:42,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be all about the money, especially if you're getting 3292 03:37:42,920 --> 03:37:44,960 Speaker 1: the coming. No no, no, no, no no no, no 3293 03:37:45,360 --> 03:37:47,640 Speaker 1: wait on wait, it's something. I love it. That's what 3294 03:37:47,720 --> 03:37:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I'm gonna listen 3295 03:37:51,280 --> 03:37:54,600 Speaker 1: so late the bag by all means way so to 3296 03:37:54,680 --> 03:37:56,959 Speaker 1: late the bag by all means, but also the back 3297 03:37:57,040 --> 03:38:00,200 Speaker 1: come when when they see the value in the clean 3298 03:38:00,600 --> 03:38:03,680 Speaker 1: of unity. Some tithing to bagg is not just a dollar, 3299 03:38:04,080 --> 03:38:06,280 Speaker 1: but the bagg is a unity, and it shows a 3300 03:38:06,360 --> 03:38:10,000 Speaker 1: greater false that I'm bringing that dollar. Listen, you eat, 3301 03:38:10,040 --> 03:38:14,000 Speaker 1: it's clear you're eating right now. And let's put this 3302 03:38:14,200 --> 03:38:19,160 Speaker 1: and compare with other cities like I'll see them. Ali, 3303 03:38:19,240 --> 03:38:21,480 Speaker 1: you put an artist on the com up like you 3304 03:38:21,720 --> 03:38:26,880 Speaker 1: did twenty five small years ago. Look, that's small and 3305 03:38:26,959 --> 03:38:29,960 Speaker 1: it's times. I made that mistake. I'm gonna keep you 3306 03:38:30,000 --> 03:38:32,959 Speaker 1: greenberry this time. I made that. I made that mistake, 3307 03:38:33,000 --> 03:38:37,240 Speaker 1: good prodigy. I made that mistake with fifty you know, 3308 03:38:37,800 --> 03:38:41,400 Speaker 1: just being fixated on my way of seeing things. But 3309 03:38:41,560 --> 03:38:45,879 Speaker 1: that's very important to see tomorrow because where you're at 3310 03:38:45,959 --> 03:38:50,160 Speaker 1: today could change tomorrow. And that's the artifact. And aside 3311 03:38:50,240 --> 03:38:52,880 Speaker 1: from that, not out of fear, but no, man, the 3312 03:38:53,080 --> 03:38:57,240 Speaker 1: culture is amazing. This ship save your life, all of 3313 03:38:57,400 --> 03:39:04,400 Speaker 1: us exactly to save my life. Should know that fact. 3314 03:39:04,920 --> 03:39:06,840 Speaker 1: It's saved your life. I know it for a fact. 3315 03:39:07,360 --> 03:39:11,800 Speaker 1: We gotta support those if we feel them, but let's 3316 03:39:11,879 --> 03:39:15,080 Speaker 1: not not feel them because they're not signed us and 3317 03:39:15,120 --> 03:39:22,080 Speaker 1: we're not automatic. But let's question, don't pointing about the 3318 03:39:22,120 --> 03:39:25,720 Speaker 1: bag that I'm talking about, right, is that it's important. 3319 03:39:26,959 --> 03:39:30,040 Speaker 1: And as I get to these different times in my 3320 03:39:30,800 --> 03:39:35,600 Speaker 1: way of thinking, as I continue to grow, I realized 3321 03:39:35,640 --> 03:39:40,960 Speaker 1: that that ship is also used against us our love 3322 03:39:41,040 --> 03:39:43,360 Speaker 1: and our passion and just doing ship because we feel it. 3323 03:39:45,800 --> 03:39:49,879 Speaker 1: N I realized something a long time ago. Our feeling 3324 03:39:51,120 --> 03:39:54,280 Speaker 1: and our love is the most valuable ship in existence, 3325 03:39:55,280 --> 03:39:57,280 Speaker 1: and the only reason why it is even revenue to 3326 03:39:57,320 --> 03:39:59,760 Speaker 1: be generated is because of our love and our passion. 3327 03:40:00,680 --> 03:40:03,640 Speaker 1: And these niggers always been profited and capitalizing off of it. 3328 03:40:04,280 --> 03:40:07,680 Speaker 1: And we'll be the last ones to profit and capitalize 3329 03:40:07,720 --> 03:40:10,800 Speaker 1: in the same way if we ever do. And that's 3330 03:40:10,840 --> 03:40:13,280 Speaker 1: a that's a valid point, that's making. That's what I'm saying. 3331 03:40:13,320 --> 03:40:15,720 Speaker 1: Are you gotta get you gotta get paid for your value, 3332 03:40:15,720 --> 03:40:18,240 Speaker 1: You gotta get paid for your test. Everything I'm gonna 3333 03:40:18,240 --> 03:40:24,920 Speaker 1: get you. I'm gonna get you a perfect example. It 3334 03:40:25,000 --> 03:40:28,080 Speaker 1: ain't nothing to do something as a slap ain't nothing. 3335 03:40:28,800 --> 03:40:31,879 Speaker 1: And on the slop with the artists, right, you know, brother, 3336 03:40:31,959 --> 03:40:33,400 Speaker 1: pull up, be like yo, let me get a verse 3337 03:40:33,920 --> 03:40:36,160 Speaker 1: and you funk with that motherfucker and they hot too, 3338 03:40:36,240 --> 03:40:39,279 Speaker 1: and give me a version return. Cool, We don't exchange 3339 03:40:39,320 --> 03:40:44,959 Speaker 1: no bread, right, the equal values in the sense I'm 3340 03:40:45,000 --> 03:40:49,680 Speaker 1: about to make the point that point, so we do 3341 03:40:49,840 --> 03:40:52,520 Speaker 1: this because we love each other. Right, But then this 3342 03:40:52,720 --> 03:40:58,280 Speaker 1: love appreciated by everybody that is getting the money, right, 3343 03:40:58,440 --> 03:41:00,720 Speaker 1: they don't give a funk about that. What they actually 3344 03:41:00,800 --> 03:41:04,720 Speaker 1: give a funk about is how they're able to monitor 3345 03:41:05,400 --> 03:41:12,480 Speaker 1: and monetize and exploit that love because with all of 3346 03:41:12,560 --> 03:41:16,400 Speaker 1: that love, that's gonna benefit everybody else. The niggas are 3347 03:41:16,400 --> 03:41:18,200 Speaker 1: still looking at you and say, all right, well, this 3348 03:41:18,400 --> 03:41:21,400 Speaker 1: is the deal structure you got with us, and based 3349 03:41:21,440 --> 03:41:25,680 Speaker 1: on your expenditures here, no matter how much that's generated 3350 03:41:25,720 --> 03:41:31,040 Speaker 1: as a revenue under this deal structure, and don't matter 3351 03:41:31,080 --> 03:41:34,040 Speaker 1: how many records are sold based on what you might 3352 03:41:34,120 --> 03:41:36,920 Speaker 1: have did as a deal, based on what you might 3353 03:41:37,000 --> 03:41:41,800 Speaker 1: have agreed to signing do, you still might not make 3354 03:41:41,879 --> 03:41:44,760 Speaker 1: no money. So so so what I'm saying to you 3355 03:41:45,000 --> 03:41:48,279 Speaker 1: is that's the only part that gotta start getting changed, 3356 03:41:48,600 --> 03:41:50,959 Speaker 1: especially because I think that that value that we think 3357 03:41:51,000 --> 03:41:54,960 Speaker 1: of love like we undervalue in ourselves, that value of 3358 03:41:55,080 --> 03:41:58,120 Speaker 1: love is not the monitor you know, like where we 3359 03:41:58,160 --> 03:42:02,280 Speaker 1: should be getting, but it is, but it is. It's 3360 03:42:02,360 --> 03:42:07,120 Speaker 1: the source of the monetary problem. We ain't doing what 3361 03:42:07,200 --> 03:42:09,840 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do to make sure that we're the 3362 03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:17,240 Speaker 1: benefactors as the source recipients. We're not the post that 3363 03:42:17,360 --> 03:42:20,440 Speaker 1: we ain't post to be the last one to laugh 3364 03:42:20,480 --> 03:42:23,640 Speaker 1: to the bank. If you even get a chance to giggle, 3365 03:42:24,520 --> 03:42:27,920 Speaker 1: let alone laugh to the bank, nigger. That's all I'm saying. 3366 03:42:28,720 --> 03:42:32,040 Speaker 1: If I'm coming in here with this brilliant creation and 3367 03:42:32,160 --> 03:42:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm sharing it with somebody that I love, and they're 3368 03:42:34,400 --> 03:42:39,960 Speaker 1: sharing that ship with me, we're supposed to be the 3369 03:42:40,120 --> 03:42:43,120 Speaker 1: first ones to last, and we're supposed to be able 3370 03:42:43,120 --> 03:42:46,480 Speaker 1: to allocate who else laughs based on not with discretion, 3371 03:42:46,680 --> 03:42:49,280 Speaker 1: so we lived. Wait wait, that's deep. If we came 3372 03:42:49,360 --> 03:42:53,680 Speaker 1: in right with that, then the people we're sharing it with, 3373 03:42:54,959 --> 03:42:58,120 Speaker 1: if then that's reciprocating that, then what is it? What 3374 03:42:58,280 --> 03:43:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying is it needs to change age based on 3375 03:43:00,959 --> 03:43:03,760 Speaker 1: the way it's been. The way it's been is that 3376 03:43:05,160 --> 03:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I just won continuing to be that after all of 3377 03:43:10,080 --> 03:43:14,720 Speaker 1: this time and then ain't changing. Something's wrong, And who 3378 03:43:14,920 --> 03:43:16,840 Speaker 1: is the fault of that wrong? It got to be 3379 03:43:16,959 --> 03:43:20,360 Speaker 1: you at this point, because what I'm saying to myself is, 3380 03:43:20,959 --> 03:43:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, as I'm celebrating this, this new cycle amount 3381 03:43:24,879 --> 03:43:27,560 Speaker 1: of son I'm like, damn, you know, my mother would 3382 03:43:27,560 --> 03:43:33,400 Speaker 1: be like your bust. You've been around, Yeah, you know 3383 03:43:33,480 --> 03:43:37,720 Speaker 1: what the beautiful thing is of being around? How dangerous 3384 03:43:37,800 --> 03:43:41,640 Speaker 1: I am now because I ain't learning as I go 3385 03:43:41,760 --> 03:43:46,480 Speaker 1: along no more. I'm mastered this ship as I was 3386 03:43:46,560 --> 03:43:48,800 Speaker 1: going along. So now that ship that I'm gonna apply, 3387 03:43:49,959 --> 03:43:53,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna sting a little differently when I apply it 3388 03:43:53,560 --> 03:43:56,039 Speaker 1: now because I'm the fucking me I get this ship. 3389 03:43:56,800 --> 03:44:01,960 Speaker 1: I ain't Daniel San no more. Next So so so 3390 03:44:02,120 --> 03:44:04,360 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of what I'm getting ready to do, 3391 03:44:05,959 --> 03:44:10,000 Speaker 1: live my best life and apply it. It's like the 3392 03:44:10,120 --> 03:44:13,880 Speaker 1: gods when they say knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. You Knowledge 3393 03:44:13,959 --> 03:44:17,080 Speaker 1: is to look with listening observed. Wisdom is to speak wild. 3394 03:44:17,160 --> 03:44:19,680 Speaker 1: The understanding is a reflection of knowledge and wisdom. And 3395 03:44:19,800 --> 03:44:22,760 Speaker 1: it's the best part. Right wise, understanding the best part. 3396 03:44:22,920 --> 03:44:28,720 Speaker 1: It's the absence of confusion pass a peace. Understanding is 3397 03:44:28,760 --> 03:44:32,240 Speaker 1: the absence of confusion because it brings about peace. Of course, 3398 03:44:32,280 --> 03:44:34,600 Speaker 1: you can't have understanding without the peace. You can't have. 3399 03:44:35,120 --> 03:44:38,160 Speaker 1: You can't have peace without understanding. So this is what 3400 03:44:38,240 --> 03:44:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you understand, that's when you live in 3401 03:44:42,040 --> 03:44:46,160 Speaker 1: your most peaceful space. That's when you're your happiest. That's 3402 03:44:46,200 --> 03:44:50,520 Speaker 1: when you're the most potential threat because the motherfucker now 3403 03:44:50,640 --> 03:44:55,720 Speaker 1: no part of me, Almighty, the motherfucker Now, No, we 3404 03:44:55,800 --> 03:44:57,920 Speaker 1: ain't really able to fool list nigger the way we 3405 03:44:58,040 --> 03:45:01,160 Speaker 1: used to. We ain't a able to take advantage of 3406 03:45:01,240 --> 03:45:04,800 Speaker 1: the small funcker the way we used to. Sometimes that's 3407 03:45:04,840 --> 03:45:09,800 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, because motherfucker's respect that will find the 3408 03:45:09,920 --> 03:45:12,920 Speaker 1: experience actually that much more pleasurable as long as they 3409 03:45:13,000 --> 03:45:17,600 Speaker 1: come around respecting that ship that they know they shouldn't 3410 03:45:17,640 --> 03:45:19,480 Speaker 1: play with the way they used to when we didn't 3411 03:45:19,520 --> 03:45:23,160 Speaker 1: know better. So now that they know, you know, just 3412 03:45:23,320 --> 03:45:25,080 Speaker 1: come to me and let's do this thing that we're 3413 03:45:25,080 --> 03:45:27,440 Speaker 1: supposed to do the light way. See, the only time 3414 03:45:27,480 --> 03:45:29,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem is if you know that 3415 03:45:29,360 --> 03:45:32,800 Speaker 1: I know the funky way is something you shouldn't do. 3416 03:45:32,959 --> 03:45:34,760 Speaker 1: But you try to bring the funk wey way around 3417 03:45:34,800 --> 03:45:37,640 Speaker 1: me anyway, that's when it's wrong because now you're insulting 3418 03:45:37,680 --> 03:45:42,360 Speaker 1: the intelligence, and you're insulting what you know. Even before 3419 03:45:42,440 --> 03:45:49,080 Speaker 1: you chose to bring the funkery around, had the opportunity 3420 03:45:49,160 --> 03:45:52,320 Speaker 1: to say to yourself, I'm not gonna bring the funky, 3421 03:45:52,800 --> 03:45:56,440 Speaker 1: but disregarded that and still brought the fun cry. Now 3422 03:45:57,560 --> 03:46:00,880 Speaker 1: there's a problem. It's a different kind of accountability because 3423 03:46:00,920 --> 03:46:04,640 Speaker 1: see again, if we're gonna deal with the degree justice, 3424 03:46:05,200 --> 03:46:07,440 Speaker 1: which is the tenth degree and it's a premuphabet is 3425 03:46:07,520 --> 03:46:10,720 Speaker 1: the reward penalty for one's access it these So you 3426 03:46:10,800 --> 03:46:12,760 Speaker 1: do the right ship, you give awarded for it, you 3427 03:46:12,879 --> 03:46:17,160 Speaker 1: do the function, you get peenule. That's it. Just do 3428 03:46:17,280 --> 03:46:19,800 Speaker 1: what you know is right, especially when you're dealing with me. 3429 03:46:20,360 --> 03:46:22,760 Speaker 1: You're dealing with an normy, you're dealing with a track, 3430 03:46:22,840 --> 03:46:25,400 Speaker 1: you're dealing with a poom. We're celebrating twenty five years 3431 03:46:25,400 --> 03:46:35,200 Speaker 1: of CNN, right. The beauty of this celebration is the 3432 03:46:35,320 --> 03:46:42,280 Speaker 1: motherfucker's you created. CNN learned so much that there's now 3433 03:46:42,320 --> 03:46:48,240 Speaker 1: our drink Champs, right, Yeah, and the drink Champs came 3434 03:46:48,280 --> 03:46:52,680 Speaker 1: about as a result of the function that they got 3435 03:46:52,760 --> 03:47:01,080 Speaker 1: tired of dealing with CNN. You give me a So 3436 03:47:01,640 --> 03:47:05,280 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. They are now applying the 3437 03:47:05,560 --> 03:47:10,760 Speaker 1: mastered level of themselves. We need the dummies, that is learning. 3438 03:47:10,800 --> 03:47:12,640 Speaker 1: As we're going alone, we're bumping out my head the 3439 03:47:12,680 --> 03:47:14,920 Speaker 1: same way Nigga one or two of them speaking out 3440 03:47:14,959 --> 03:47:17,560 Speaker 1: still stay different. And even me when I'm tired of 3441 03:47:17,680 --> 03:47:22,720 Speaker 1: hitting my head like this man right, let me stop 3442 03:47:22,800 --> 03:47:24,560 Speaker 1: winning in this brick roll burro when I could dig 3443 03:47:24,640 --> 03:47:28,800 Speaker 1: into that ship climate go around the motherfucker going through 3444 03:47:28,879 --> 03:47:31,720 Speaker 1: this ship hurt though, and I'm tired of that hurt. 3445 03:47:32,080 --> 03:47:47,480 Speaker 1: So let me celebrate and be a drink champ man, 3446 03:47:48,280 --> 03:47:49,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm grateful that I 3447 03:47:49,920 --> 03:47:53,000 Speaker 1: was even able to be a part of becoming a 3448 03:47:53,160 --> 03:47:56,960 Speaker 1: fan of some ship from its inception. Yeall did that 3449 03:47:57,040 --> 03:48:00,240 Speaker 1: ship to me? I caused a whole piece of God. 3450 03:48:00,240 --> 03:48:04,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna front. I used to ride around with 3451 03:48:04,200 --> 03:48:08,800 Speaker 1: a few people. I used to play this ship all 3452 03:48:08,840 --> 03:48:14,680 Speaker 1: the time, just to drive. Sometimes we would drive through 3453 03:48:14,760 --> 03:48:19,280 Speaker 1: left racking queensbridges to see if what the funk we 3454 03:48:19,440 --> 03:48:25,480 Speaker 1: was hearing was happening. I'm not gonna front. I'm like, 3455 03:48:25,520 --> 03:48:30,160 Speaker 1: he's flatbush nigger. So ain't no hood too different from 3456 03:48:30,240 --> 03:48:33,600 Speaker 1: the hood that I was raised in. But there's definitely 3457 03:48:33,720 --> 03:48:37,120 Speaker 1: different aesthetics, and the ship I was hearing was a 3458 03:48:37,240 --> 03:48:42,879 Speaker 1: little different, and I wanted to understand why when there's 3459 03:48:42,920 --> 03:48:45,960 Speaker 1: so much sick that we identified with each other hoods 3460 03:48:46,920 --> 03:48:50,199 Speaker 1: and in each otherhoods. What the funk got them sprinkling 3461 03:48:50,240 --> 03:48:54,520 Speaker 1: the salt at this amount differently from how we sprinkle. 3462 03:48:54,560 --> 03:48:59,920 Speaker 1: I was salt and ADOBEO and this pepper they see 3463 03:49:00,040 --> 03:49:03,320 Speaker 1: and they food a little different. But this ship still 3464 03:49:03,440 --> 03:49:05,320 Speaker 1: tastes banging. I'm gonna still pull up to the same 3465 03:49:05,440 --> 03:49:08,400 Speaker 1: yard man spot to get that season and then left 3466 03:49:08,520 --> 03:49:11,360 Speaker 1: rack in Queensbridge because they still got official yard nakers 3467 03:49:11,360 --> 03:49:14,520 Speaker 1: out there, like they're doing Flatbush. They cook up just 3468 03:49:14,680 --> 03:49:18,520 Speaker 1: might be a little different. You know what I'm saying. 3469 03:49:18,560 --> 03:49:20,880 Speaker 1: I want to taste their ship or I'm coming through. 3470 03:49:21,880 --> 03:49:25,840 Speaker 1: And ultimately, man, I didn't get to see nothing that 3471 03:49:25,880 --> 03:49:30,080 Speaker 1: I heard on the records. Maybe I wasn't supposed to exactly, 3472 03:49:30,360 --> 03:49:34,920 Speaker 1: because that was that was It wasn't supposed to lead 3473 03:49:35,120 --> 03:49:37,920 Speaker 1: right there, right but but but but but but with 3474 03:49:38,080 --> 03:49:41,240 Speaker 1: that being said, it made the desire grow that much more. 3475 03:49:41,480 --> 03:49:44,320 Speaker 1: It's like absence makes the heart grow fonder. Right, So 3476 03:49:44,680 --> 03:49:47,000 Speaker 1: the more I couldn't see it was the more that 3477 03:49:47,080 --> 03:49:49,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to see it through the work. So the music, 3478 03:49:49,720 --> 03:49:59,360 Speaker 1: the visuals, the freestyles, That's my point. I wasn't a postman. 3479 03:49:59,400 --> 03:50:01,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't come a dude, I wasn't supposed to come 3480 03:50:01,760 --> 03:50:04,600 Speaker 1: through at the time when the bullshit was happening. It 3481 03:50:04,760 --> 03:50:07,480 Speaker 1: was another plan for me and I needed this beef. 3482 03:50:08,240 --> 03:50:11,560 Speaker 1: I needed to be exempt from the ship now I 3483 03:50:11,600 --> 03:50:16,720 Speaker 1: ain't needed to be in an eye of stone nagger respectfully. Yeah, 3484 03:50:17,080 --> 03:50:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, I'm so so again. Man. Like I said, 3485 03:50:20,360 --> 03:50:22,440 Speaker 1: I ain't sticking around long. I think I'm long winded 3486 03:50:22,480 --> 03:50:34,280 Speaker 1: and not show my block. Everybody say something, you just say, 3487 03:50:34,680 --> 03:50:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, being a part of this legendary you know 3488 03:50:40,440 --> 03:50:43,240 Speaker 1: for twenty five years, which I didn't leaven though. It's 3489 03:50:43,360 --> 03:50:45,520 Speaker 1: twenty five and it's not even until next month. So 3490 03:50:45,600 --> 03:50:54,920 Speaker 1: let's just just just hold one, you know, earliest on, 3491 03:50:55,400 --> 03:50:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, me me, me sitting back and me just 3492 03:50:58,120 --> 03:51:05,640 Speaker 1: just just paying attention to what happened from the outside then, 3493 03:51:06,400 --> 03:51:09,360 Speaker 1: because I know tragic opponent's gonna like till me for 3494 03:51:09,440 --> 03:51:12,320 Speaker 1: this later. But you know, Queen's Bears is a very 3495 03:51:12,400 --> 03:51:16,600 Speaker 1: privileged hood. Although you know they might be privileged, not 3496 03:51:16,640 --> 03:51:19,240 Speaker 1: in a way that you guys think, but they had 3497 03:51:19,320 --> 03:51:25,080 Speaker 1: imp shan they had you know, mally had pretty established 3498 03:51:25,440 --> 03:51:30,280 Speaker 1: not privilege privileges, you know what established like that. I 3499 03:51:30,360 --> 03:51:37,280 Speaker 1: like that a lot of people putting privilege man like, yeah, right, yeah, okay, 3500 03:51:37,480 --> 03:51:42,480 Speaker 1: if you in Manhattan does not constitute Shane Rhymes moll work. 3501 03:51:42,680 --> 03:51:46,080 Speaker 1: But I got to start to say that. They quickly no, no, no, no, no, 3502 03:51:46,240 --> 03:51:52,680 Speaker 1: I got because Molly wasn't privilege. Molly work that constituted 3503 03:51:53,040 --> 03:51:55,800 Speaker 1: ninety percent of hip hop for a certain generation. That's 3504 03:51:55,840 --> 03:51:57,840 Speaker 1: not a privilege. That's work. I just gotta say that. 3505 03:51:58,880 --> 03:52:01,400 Speaker 1: And and difference, you know what I agree, I agree with, 3506 03:52:02,120 --> 03:52:04,120 Speaker 1: But let me just try to make the point that 3507 03:52:04,120 --> 03:52:08,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to make, and you know, sitting there 3508 03:52:08,880 --> 03:52:14,720 Speaker 1: and trying to to uh calculate and put together and 3509 03:52:15,000 --> 03:52:16,560 Speaker 1: let's be clear because I want to I want to 3510 03:52:16,640 --> 03:52:18,680 Speaker 1: want to be very careful what I say right now 3511 03:52:19,200 --> 03:52:23,640 Speaker 1: because the brother mother speak about has passed away. H 3512 03:52:25,240 --> 03:52:30,400 Speaker 1: One thing about Prodigy was he was a product of Queens, 3513 03:52:30,440 --> 03:52:35,000 Speaker 1: but he's also a product of blowing down and a 3514 03:52:35,080 --> 03:52:37,720 Speaker 1: lot of people from you heard Sugar Ones, a lot 3515 03:52:37,760 --> 03:52:41,880 Speaker 1: of people you heard from what was then the Twitter 3516 03:52:42,800 --> 03:52:47,480 Speaker 1: or then the Instagram. People was like he's from and 3517 03:52:47,560 --> 03:52:51,320 Speaker 1: it differentiated him immediately because people were saying, wait a minute, 3518 03:52:51,680 --> 03:52:54,080 Speaker 1: there's some people who say it when queens rid. Then 3519 03:52:54,080 --> 03:52:56,320 Speaker 1: then some people say it from left back. I didn't 3520 03:52:56,600 --> 03:53:01,240 Speaker 1: be that guy, not that what he did was wrong, 3521 03:53:01,400 --> 03:53:03,440 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't know what he's passed away. 3522 03:53:03,520 --> 03:53:05,800 Speaker 1: We can't ask him why he did what he did 3523 03:53:05,880 --> 03:53:08,840 Speaker 1: or what he But I wanted to be different, and 3524 03:53:08,960 --> 03:53:12,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to be I wanted to represent the people 3525 03:53:12,440 --> 03:53:16,000 Speaker 1: who wrot up with me, whether they were proud of 3526 03:53:16,080 --> 03:53:18,000 Speaker 1: me or whether they're like, he's just come back and 3527 03:53:18,040 --> 03:53:21,360 Speaker 1: he's he's ship. I wanted them to still claim that too. 3528 03:53:22,440 --> 03:53:25,040 Speaker 1: So what we did with the War Report was we 3529 03:53:25,240 --> 03:53:29,880 Speaker 1: came in and we said we're gonna un uh. This 3530 03:53:30,000 --> 03:53:35,960 Speaker 1: is my mother, my friend. Nowadays he says we're unapologetically black, 3531 03:53:37,480 --> 03:53:47,000 Speaker 1: But we were unapologizically, unapologetically. We were unapologized. Let me 3532 03:53:47,080 --> 03:53:52,600 Speaker 1: just finishing apologized. We were unapologetically. We were unapologetically to 3533 03:53:52,640 --> 03:53:58,960 Speaker 1: War Report. We actually came together and then with these 3534 03:53:58,960 --> 03:54:01,320 Speaker 1: people that's behind us, means all these brothers that was 3535 03:54:01,360 --> 03:54:04,320 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. That's why y'all here, That's why um 3536 03:54:05,280 --> 03:54:10,360 Speaker 1: y'all understood. Y'all understood this platform, you understood this body 3537 03:54:10,520 --> 03:54:15,040 Speaker 1: of work, and you stood by it. And for that 3538 03:54:15,640 --> 03:54:19,000 Speaker 1: for a person that, like like we were saying earlier, 3539 03:54:19,920 --> 03:54:21,720 Speaker 1: I believe you said. Anybody we said, if you're not 3540 03:54:21,800 --> 03:54:27,080 Speaker 1: signed me didn't fuck you. This is probably the first. 3541 03:54:27,200 --> 03:54:29,720 Speaker 1: This is the first artist, not probably the excuse me, 3542 03:54:29,920 --> 03:54:35,120 Speaker 1: M take that out. This was the first artist that 3543 03:54:35,280 --> 03:54:39,760 Speaker 1: stepped up that I'm working with them. But then let's 3544 03:54:39,800 --> 03:54:43,760 Speaker 1: just be clear, we got accused of some crazy shoot 3545 03:54:43,760 --> 03:54:46,520 Speaker 1: out and said that happen, so that at that point 3546 03:54:47,200 --> 03:54:49,400 Speaker 1: it was exactly the time to say, get the funk 3547 03:54:49,440 --> 03:54:53,840 Speaker 1: away from U. But guess what not not not the 3548 03:54:53,880 --> 03:54:58,920 Speaker 1: country like like for me, and I know how it is. 3549 03:54:59,560 --> 03:55:01,440 Speaker 1: That's why. But you know what, I know the staff 3550 03:55:01,560 --> 03:55:03,640 Speaker 1: of me, you love me, but it stabbing of me 3551 03:55:03,720 --> 03:55:06,480 Speaker 1: because they know what I'm not. I'm not gonna say 3552 03:55:06,480 --> 03:55:09,320 Speaker 1: it was politically correct all the time. And you know what, 3553 03:55:09,520 --> 03:55:14,520 Speaker 1: no one can respect his contribution actually made a contribution 3554 03:55:14,720 --> 03:55:18,360 Speaker 1: to be killing. That's why when he spoke, I didn't 3555 03:55:18,400 --> 03:55:21,240 Speaker 1: really say so much. A lot of people would come 3556 03:55:21,280 --> 03:55:24,880 Speaker 1: on and talk and I may that's my nature. You 3557 03:55:24,920 --> 03:55:27,840 Speaker 1: don't gotta like me, like you said somewhere earlier, I'm 3558 03:55:27,880 --> 03:55:31,800 Speaker 1: not here to be liked. I'm not. I'm not here 3559 03:55:31,840 --> 03:55:33,840 Speaker 1: to be like. I figured that out a long time ago. 3560 03:55:34,680 --> 03:55:37,440 Speaker 1: But when he spoke, I don't know if you noticed 3561 03:55:37,480 --> 03:55:41,960 Speaker 1: the temperature change, because he actually showed up for me, 3562 03:55:42,240 --> 03:55:45,920 Speaker 1: for us, he showed up. I want to set the 3563 03:55:46,000 --> 03:55:50,400 Speaker 1: first I went to why I remember the studio? What 3564 03:55:50,560 --> 03:55:54,960 Speaker 1: I really love about this moment y'all showed up for me. 3565 03:55:57,680 --> 03:56:01,280 Speaker 1: I was really trying to help my artists only tell 3566 03:56:01,320 --> 03:56:03,480 Speaker 1: me to rhyme on the record. Yeah, let's Spliff shine 3567 03:56:05,000 --> 03:56:07,360 Speaker 1: like that's a whole of the thing. People ain't people, 3568 03:56:07,520 --> 03:56:12,520 Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. Like I talked on the record, 3569 03:56:12,880 --> 03:56:15,040 Speaker 1: You don't think I wanted to rhyme when that motherfucker 3570 03:56:15,080 --> 03:56:20,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was frustrated that was so stupid of 3571 03:56:20,440 --> 03:56:25,120 Speaker 1: Fife was not playing on that album Playboy, And I 3572 03:56:25,280 --> 03:56:27,560 Speaker 1: was living with the b too while Spliff was writing 3573 03:56:27,640 --> 03:56:29,720 Speaker 1: that rap, and I sat in the studio and I 3574 03:56:29,840 --> 03:56:34,760 Speaker 1: was thirsty the black time. It's not even I was 3575 03:56:34,880 --> 03:56:37,720 Speaker 1: on everybody ship at the time, so I didn't felt 3576 03:56:37,760 --> 03:56:43,960 Speaker 1: weird to be told to fall back. But Spliff having 3577 03:56:44,000 --> 03:56:47,200 Speaker 1: that moment meant more than me, just in the same way. 3578 03:56:48,600 --> 03:56:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, I needed rampage to get on, and I 3579 03:56:51,760 --> 03:56:55,560 Speaker 1: said puff and he's ramped on flaving Yard and said 3580 03:56:55,880 --> 03:56:57,760 Speaker 1: Nika said all right, well the money I was gonna 3581 03:56:57,840 --> 03:57:01,040 Speaker 1: pay you if you want to ramp on the record 3582 03:57:01,120 --> 03:57:04,680 Speaker 1: that bad and you just gotta rhyme for free to Okay, 3583 03:57:04,760 --> 03:57:07,720 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm gonna make the sacrifice. I want to 3584 03:57:07,760 --> 03:57:11,240 Speaker 1: put my niggers in position. So I thank y'all for 3585 03:57:11,400 --> 03:57:17,160 Speaker 1: putting giving an opportunity to Spliff to be able to 3586 03:57:17,240 --> 03:57:21,840 Speaker 1: be a part of a milestone. You were Spliff was 3587 03:57:21,960 --> 03:57:32,760 Speaker 1: behind the walls in the same though, so dish. The 3588 03:57:32,920 --> 03:57:35,480 Speaker 1: correlation of this ship is so crazy. I'm trying to 3589 03:57:35,560 --> 03:57:42,560 Speaker 1: tell Yeah, and it's a different level of deep rooted. 3590 03:57:44,160 --> 03:57:48,200 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. So thank you all for letting Spliff live 3591 03:57:48,400 --> 03:57:59,600 Speaker 1: and and I love y'all direct relationship from behind the 3592 03:57:59,720 --> 03:58:04,560 Speaker 1: wall to the street and our relationships separate from that, 3593 03:58:05,640 --> 03:58:09,280 Speaker 1: our relationship before seeing in You know what I'm saying. 3594 03:58:09,360 --> 03:58:12,200 Speaker 1: It's like I mean, it's it's so much moving parts 3595 03:58:13,280 --> 03:58:18,600 Speaker 1: that brought the ship together again. Congratulations to the twenty 3596 03:58:18,680 --> 03:58:45,040 Speaker 1: five anniversary. I'm gone thank you to like, um, yeah, 3597 03:58:45,040 --> 03:58:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm the wrapper it up. But that's okay, post that's 3598 03:58:51,280 --> 03:59:51,240 Speaker 1: what we h It was great. That was great. Let 3599 03:59:51,240 --> 03:59:54,120 Speaker 1: me just be honest. Let be honest, man, um No, 3600 03:59:54,240 --> 03:59:57,160 Speaker 1: I do I think everyone individually earlier, but this is 3601 03:59:57,200 --> 03:59:59,800 Speaker 1: not it's not it's not like fully thank you ship 3602 04:00:00,040 --> 04:00:02,240 Speaker 1: like at all, because this is this is real ship, 3603 04:00:02,360 --> 04:00:04,000 Speaker 1: like you know, me looking at the history and me 3604 04:00:04,160 --> 04:00:08,120 Speaker 1: looking at where everything has started, where everything is going, 3605 04:00:08,240 --> 04:00:11,640 Speaker 1: and where everything is going to. Without this beginning, it 3606 04:00:11,680 --> 04:00:15,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been anything. And I want to be thankful 3607 04:00:15,640 --> 04:00:18,840 Speaker 1: to each and every one of your individuals participated who 3608 04:00:18,880 --> 04:00:21,400 Speaker 1: took a part of it, even down to Raheem from 3609 04:00:21,520 --> 04:00:24,480 Speaker 1: just saying you know, we're like the court on bloody 3610 04:00:24,520 --> 04:00:28,600 Speaker 1: money to you know, you know, yeah that part too, 3611 04:00:29,480 --> 04:00:35,920 Speaker 1: the budge pr budget, you know, to Trash telling us 3612 04:00:35,960 --> 04:00:39,080 Speaker 1: to control the budgets and say, you know what, if 3613 04:00:39,120 --> 04:00:42,040 Speaker 1: you guys keep you know, bullshitting your time in the studio, 3614 04:00:43,120 --> 04:00:47,760 Speaker 1: it won't work out. And I don't know Geno Sam's 3615 04:00:47,840 --> 04:00:52,160 Speaker 1: to some of those calls to Nail from being the 3616 04:00:52,320 --> 04:00:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, the big balls from March from um being 3617 04:00:57,760 --> 04:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the guy that was the go to guy and then 3618 04:01:00,440 --> 04:01:03,960 Speaker 1: hiring the next go to guy. Uh, I can be 3619 04:01:04,280 --> 04:01:08,240 Speaker 1: more thankful, you know, uh for everybody that's here in 3620 04:01:08,320 --> 04:01:12,000 Speaker 1: the presence. I want to thank you all individually, you know, 3621 04:01:12,480 --> 04:01:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you don't have to go home 3622 04:01:14,160 --> 04:01:24,520 Speaker 1: on anything that you know we still get drunk off camera. No, 3623 04:01:24,640 --> 04:01:27,360 Speaker 1: But the thing is, Um, I wanted the people to 3624 04:01:27,400 --> 04:01:29,600 Speaker 1: see the commodity. I wanted the people to see that 3625 04:01:29,800 --> 04:01:36,680 Speaker 1: me and trash Um can still and we do that. 3626 04:01:36,920 --> 04:01:38,560 Speaker 1: We do that every day, like when we speak to 3627 04:01:38,640 --> 04:01:41,840 Speaker 1: each other's family. It's real ship. Um. He doesn't always 3628 04:01:41,840 --> 04:01:43,800 Speaker 1: agree with me. I don't always agree with him, but 3629 04:01:43,960 --> 04:01:47,120 Speaker 1: that's life. I don't always agree with Capon and Capone 3630 04:01:47,200 --> 04:01:50,880 Speaker 1: don't always agree with me. But it's between us, me 3631 04:01:51,000 --> 04:01:54,360 Speaker 1: and mar and me and man so on and so forth. 3632 04:01:54,560 --> 04:01:58,960 Speaker 1: But you know, so forth. But but we've all been 3633 04:01:59,040 --> 04:02:04,200 Speaker 1: able to do with each other. Pause and outside of 3634 04:02:05,360 --> 04:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Warri port has been remarkable, and I 3635 04:02:08,240 --> 04:02:12,040 Speaker 1: just wanted to thank everything for taking this time to 3636 04:02:12,160 --> 04:02:15,800 Speaker 1: come back and just you know, salute this masterpiece. You 3637 04:02:15,840 --> 04:02:17,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I called her the master 3638 04:02:17,840 --> 04:02:27,840 Speaker 1: is here. Here we are. You're gonna take the lead. 3639 04:02:27,920 --> 04:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Supreme comes to you and wants to do a clothing, 3640 04:02:32,360 --> 04:02:35,720 Speaker 1: they'll take it to go away. Ship is a masterpiece, 3641 04:02:35,920 --> 04:02:40,040 Speaker 1: straight up, Yes, is a master I think that I 3642 04:02:40,160 --> 04:02:44,040 Speaker 1: take Supreme nose how to see the value in something, yes, 3643 04:02:44,440 --> 04:02:48,360 Speaker 1: which was already seen wait before Supreme. Okay, so let's 3644 04:02:48,360 --> 04:02:50,400 Speaker 1: take one thing. Let's get up out of here. Um 3645 04:02:50,560 --> 04:02:53,280 Speaker 1: let's start with you, man, say one thing and get 3646 04:02:53,320 --> 04:02:55,200 Speaker 1: up out of the head. Whatever you want to say. 3647 04:02:55,240 --> 04:02:58,560 Speaker 1: It could be more than one thing, I think. I think, 3648 04:02:58,640 --> 04:03:02,960 Speaker 1: honestly this was for a moment of men and women 3649 04:03:03,040 --> 04:03:06,360 Speaker 1: coming together to make something classic, not understanding what it 3650 04:03:06,600 --> 04:03:09,400 Speaker 1: was at the moment, but we believed in something and 3651 04:03:09,520 --> 04:03:12,280 Speaker 1: we came together and we did that. And to come 3652 04:03:12,360 --> 04:03:15,960 Speaker 1: back together and circle back to that is impeccable. I 3653 04:03:16,080 --> 04:03:20,360 Speaker 1: think that from the all the producers, the beats, the rhymes, 3654 04:03:20,880 --> 04:03:24,400 Speaker 1: the different cadences, the flows from one left and the 3655 04:03:24,480 --> 04:03:27,520 Speaker 1: shifty right on time trash, I mean, man on man, 3656 04:03:27,640 --> 04:03:30,160 Speaker 1: this this is this is something special. I'm glad to 3657 04:03:30,280 --> 04:03:33,520 Speaker 1: have participated in the small way that I did, and 3658 04:03:34,320 --> 04:03:36,400 Speaker 1: to be around all of y'all and the circle back 3659 04:03:36,440 --> 04:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to this was was dynamite. So I appreciate everyone. And 3660 04:03:44,400 --> 04:03:47,200 Speaker 1: I went out to know if my kids sie fragging 3661 04:03:47,280 --> 04:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Queen's raided the show when we remade the worry for it, 3662 04:03:50,720 --> 04:03:53,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean I did recently recently definitely 3663 04:03:53,640 --> 04:03:55,760 Speaker 1: ahead Martin, let's say what you gotta say. No, all 3664 04:03:55,920 --> 04:03:57,520 Speaker 1: all I have to say is really simple, man. Like 3665 04:03:57,840 --> 04:04:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad that I was, you know, put 3666 04:04:00,800 --> 04:04:03,400 Speaker 1: in in the place God put me there at the 3667 04:04:03,480 --> 04:04:06,720 Speaker 1: time to just bring this together traged for like you know, 3668 04:04:07,080 --> 04:04:09,880 Speaker 1: just you know, having a vision. But I'm just glad 3669 04:04:09,960 --> 04:04:12,800 Speaker 1: to just you know, be there at the moment to 3670 04:04:12,920 --> 04:04:15,600 Speaker 1: help y'all see your vision right and just you know, 3671 04:04:16,040 --> 04:04:18,560 Speaker 1: keep you know, keep moving things, you know forward. I'm 3672 04:04:18,600 --> 04:04:20,040 Speaker 1: just glad I was there at the moment in time. 3673 04:04:20,080 --> 04:04:21,800 Speaker 1: It was just a moment of time and space or whatever, 3674 04:04:21,880 --> 04:04:25,080 Speaker 1: and then we just everything that's the world's collided, whether 3675 04:04:25,120 --> 04:04:27,960 Speaker 1: it was good, bad, ugly, but we're here and this 3676 04:04:28,080 --> 04:04:30,400 Speaker 1: is beautiful and I'm thankful that I was just able 3677 04:04:30,480 --> 04:04:33,600 Speaker 1: to just put everyone in position to this move how 3678 04:04:33,640 --> 04:04:46,880 Speaker 1: we need to move moving forward. As I'm not gonna 3679 04:04:46,880 --> 04:04:53,960 Speaker 1: take your comfie, but I'm really happy, proud. I'm proud 3680 04:04:54,000 --> 04:04:58,880 Speaker 1: of all of you, know you guys and what you've 3681 04:04:58,960 --> 04:05:03,840 Speaker 1: done with your line because from twenty five years ago, 3682 04:05:04,560 --> 04:05:08,240 Speaker 1: to see what everyone is doing with your families and 3683 04:05:09,280 --> 04:05:13,040 Speaker 1: how you're affecting the culture, I'm so proud. And it's 3684 04:05:13,160 --> 04:05:16,760 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful moment for me personally, and I'm really 3685 04:05:16,800 --> 04:05:18,640 Speaker 1: happy to be here and I want to thank you. 3686 04:05:22,520 --> 04:05:25,720 Speaker 1: It's just trying to say though, thanks for the you know, 3687 04:05:25,920 --> 04:05:29,440 Speaker 1: the open arms of the brotherhood everybody. Yeah, you know what, 3688 04:05:29,480 --> 04:05:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm now giving me my first official paid y'all he 3689 04:05:35,840 --> 04:05:44,080 Speaker 1: set of yea, yeah, like I was trying to figure 3690 04:05:44,160 --> 04:05:48,520 Speaker 1: it out at trying to figure it especially, like like 3691 04:05:48,840 --> 04:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I was literally hustling, and it said I'm working to 3692 04:05:52,520 --> 04:05:56,160 Speaker 1: record story and in turn that penalty and fast forward. 3693 04:05:57,320 --> 04:05:59,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I just want to give thanks, and 3694 04:05:59,720 --> 04:06:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think, you know again, follow your passion, 3695 04:06:04,760 --> 04:06:08,280 Speaker 1: get productive and everything else to follow, and y'all just 3696 04:06:08,400 --> 04:06:12,680 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. And it's open door here, yo, 3697 04:06:13,920 --> 04:06:21,560 Speaker 1: let's do it again. No track. I just want to 3698 04:06:21,600 --> 04:06:38,480 Speaker 1: introduce my new album you only at the time, seriously, now, man, 3699 04:06:38,600 --> 04:06:45,000 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of well paid lessons, man, a 3700 04:06:45,040 --> 04:06:50,560 Speaker 1: lot of well paid lessons. Glad to see like, glad 3701 04:06:50,640 --> 04:06:54,200 Speaker 1: to see like the vision come alive and even go 3702 04:06:54,480 --> 04:06:58,480 Speaker 1: further than what the initial vision was. She'll called them flowers. 3703 04:06:59,520 --> 04:07:04,120 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying to reflex shop um, right and wrong, 3704 04:07:04,240 --> 04:07:08,040 Speaker 1: up and down. I love everybody's shaving more. Don't play 3705 04:07:08,080 --> 04:07:12,240 Speaker 1: with me, no more, no no, because I love you. 3706 04:07:12,320 --> 04:07:18,280 Speaker 1: You know why, man, it's not easy to see these dudes. Man, 3707 04:07:19,280 --> 04:07:23,240 Speaker 1: it's not it's not easy to see these dudes. But 3708 04:07:23,400 --> 04:07:27,280 Speaker 1: to see these dudes like that's a brutiful thing. Man. 3709 04:07:28,760 --> 04:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm proud of these dudes. I'm not here to validate nothing. 3710 04:07:33,480 --> 04:07:36,360 Speaker 1: My stretch might be a little longer than yours or 3711 04:07:36,440 --> 04:07:41,520 Speaker 1: anybody else said. Because I was privy, you're from the 3712 04:07:41,560 --> 04:07:43,880 Speaker 1: beginning for And that's not an ego thing. I'm not. 3713 04:07:43,960 --> 04:07:46,680 Speaker 1: He's and guard out. But so it's all to see 3714 04:07:48,520 --> 04:07:51,680 Speaker 1: these dudes like not just Snory know we got drinks, 3715 04:07:51,720 --> 04:07:58,800 Speaker 1: chance and all that. Even Poe for po lit, how 3716 04:07:58,840 --> 04:08:04,080 Speaker 1: do you say or went to college? I don't think 3717 04:08:04,160 --> 04:08:11,320 Speaker 1: you really mother first in Peach Baba Holly, what that 3718 04:08:11,440 --> 04:08:14,040 Speaker 1: means she was mother? And what that really means? Man? 3719 04:08:15,280 --> 04:08:25,400 Speaker 1: What man ship? Man? For me? I look at it 3720 04:08:25,560 --> 04:08:28,520 Speaker 1: like this. I ain't have to take my brother with me. 3721 04:08:29,760 --> 04:08:33,480 Speaker 1: He had to take me away him. So for everybody 3722 04:08:33,640 --> 04:08:35,480 Speaker 1: saying you know, you know you put this together, you 3723 04:08:35,600 --> 04:08:37,960 Speaker 1: did this, or or no, we didn't leave you nor 3724 04:08:38,120 --> 04:08:42,280 Speaker 1: now we did, no pan of backness when we do 3725 04:08:42,400 --> 04:08:45,680 Speaker 1: your main brothers, so all us, all us. I love 3726 04:08:45,800 --> 04:08:48,560 Speaker 1: the twenty five, I love this, but each one of 3727 04:08:48,640 --> 04:08:51,840 Speaker 1: your twenty for my mom's dad. Y'all sat up the flowers. 3728 04:08:52,000 --> 04:08:55,840 Speaker 1: Y'all asked to pay for my mom's funeral. Y'all, y'all. 3729 04:08:55,920 --> 04:08:58,800 Speaker 1: This ship in my ways, that penalty was was not 3730 04:08:58,920 --> 04:09:02,160 Speaker 1: a regulabeor for me when I went to jail. It 3731 04:09:02,280 --> 04:09:07,720 Speaker 1: wasn't for penalty. My mom's goed what three months before that? Yeah, 3732 04:09:08,280 --> 04:09:13,320 Speaker 1: about set for me. It's different than ships. Different, So 3733 04:09:14,440 --> 04:09:18,520 Speaker 1: you know I was. I wasn't totally alone, you know. 3734 04:09:18,560 --> 04:09:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the only child, no brother, no sisters. 3735 04:09:21,960 --> 04:09:24,040 Speaker 1: My mom's died in all the house, my dad and 3736 04:09:24,280 --> 04:09:27,840 Speaker 1: all motherfucker's, each one of y'all proved to me that 3737 04:09:28,240 --> 04:09:30,960 Speaker 1: this ship is bigger than these flowers. It's bigger than 3738 04:09:31,080 --> 04:09:34,640 Speaker 1: norious breaking in trag is bringing in me. This was 3739 04:09:34,680 --> 04:09:37,600 Speaker 1: about a family. So I want to say this one thing. 3740 04:09:38,480 --> 04:09:42,960 Speaker 1: I love y'all. Thank you my brother, thanking Mail, thank 3741 04:09:43,040 --> 04:09:46,320 Speaker 1: you Mart, thank you him, thank you GENA especially fucking 3742 04:09:46,400 --> 04:09:53,720 Speaker 1: game all y'all. Right, Now he held he needed it, 3743 04:09:54,120 --> 04:09:59,760 Speaker 1: held you. I will cry, bro, we collect call. You 3744 04:09:59,840 --> 04:10:08,040 Speaker 1: know I accepted the way down. Okay, I'm saying I'm 3745 04:10:08,160 --> 04:10:11,600 Speaker 1: telling you something came visit me. I had a girl 3746 04:10:11,680 --> 04:10:14,280 Speaker 1: at the time, he will make sure she flew from Atlanta, 3747 04:10:14,880 --> 04:10:19,240 Speaker 1: flew up to the jail, flew back to Nigger. Was 3748 04:10:19,520 --> 04:10:23,600 Speaker 1: never nothing that this brother right here. I said, Joe, 3749 04:10:24,240 --> 04:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I need a funding Cherry Red s C four thirty cool. 3750 04:10:35,240 --> 04:10:38,400 Speaker 1: He said that. I said I needed that ship, and 3751 04:10:38,520 --> 04:10:42,200 Speaker 1: he said, you want to Cherry Red SC four dirty 3752 04:10:42,280 --> 04:10:48,320 Speaker 1: cool night. And I said, because I had that fucking 3753 04:10:48,400 --> 04:10:51,800 Speaker 1: picture on myself for three years, I want that car. 3754 04:10:52,280 --> 04:10:54,560 Speaker 1: And I came home when I had the car, and 3755 04:10:55,280 --> 04:10:57,560 Speaker 1: then he fucking drove me around for like two weeks 3756 04:10:57,720 --> 04:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and said, wait, you can't drive me around to be 3757 04:11:00,240 --> 04:11:03,760 Speaker 1: at w you have to say time the card right, 3758 04:11:04,920 --> 04:11:07,120 Speaker 1: real real ship up the man, that's the real ship. 3759 04:11:07,120 --> 04:11:11,200 Speaker 1: I would think, y'all man because of that Salehi, y'all, 3760 04:11:19,000 --> 04:11:22,080 Speaker 1: this ship is different. So anybody was on the street, 3761 04:11:22,680 --> 04:11:27,000 Speaker 1: everybody had their time. But the fucking notebooks were telling me, 3762 04:11:27,280 --> 04:11:30,480 Speaker 1: this is your artwork, this is what do you want this? 3763 04:11:30,880 --> 04:11:34,240 Speaker 1: The seals had no idea that I was getting fucking 3764 04:11:34,440 --> 04:11:37,480 Speaker 1: artwork pitches or notebooks. They just wondering why I got 3765 04:11:37,600 --> 04:11:40,480 Speaker 1: taped fucking black and white note what you're sticks on 3766 04:11:41,640 --> 04:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the fresh sharts involved, Thank for me, thank you to me, 3767 04:11:55,800 --> 04:12:00,080 Speaker 1: be it better right here. I was expecting. Man, you 3768 04:12:00,160 --> 04:12:04,880 Speaker 1: are my friends literally through these sessions. I only had 3769 04:12:04,880 --> 04:12:07,640 Speaker 1: two other friends that was literally through these sessions. Their 3770 04:12:07,720 --> 04:12:12,520 Speaker 1: name was Brown and Staff definitely are well documented throughout 3771 04:12:12,600 --> 04:12:16,480 Speaker 1: my My My music problem is Brown and Staff on 3772 04:12:16,640 --> 04:12:24,040 Speaker 1: both step battle have to come on ste And it's 3773 04:12:24,120 --> 04:12:27,320 Speaker 1: one other person who wasn't a part of our crew, 3774 04:12:27,440 --> 04:12:30,600 Speaker 1: but it's a part of them. To the round Jay Rock, 3775 04:12:30,760 --> 04:12:38,400 Speaker 1: we ain't going win in yeah yeah when yeah you 3776 04:12:38,560 --> 04:12:42,840 Speaker 1: tell us your ye not your womanies one of one 3777 04:12:42,920 --> 04:12:45,960 Speaker 1: of your great of y'all, let's y'all ago, let's yaller 3778 04:12:46,680 --> 04:12:50,200 Speaker 1: one of your young memories of the war for that's 3779 04:12:50,240 --> 04:12:55,600 Speaker 1: the studios, and they got the school. So many so 3780 04:12:55,680 --> 04:13:00,800 Speaker 1: many yeah, sorry, so many. I remember like he was 3781 04:13:00,920 --> 04:13:10,840 Speaker 1: do ye be good to grandmas and mother, fucking father, 3782 04:13:11,080 --> 04:13:14,880 Speaker 1: shoot up broad got so many stuffs, remember too, by 3783 04:13:15,040 --> 04:13:22,160 Speaker 1: kiss mother, my phone up years smuggling, give us some one, 3784 04:13:22,200 --> 04:13:25,680 Speaker 1: give us once, give us someone everyone everyone else came. 3785 04:13:27,280 --> 04:13:29,800 Speaker 1: But but in the steet I got one LAPPI stee, 3786 04:13:30,120 --> 04:13:32,680 Speaker 1: okay tell and there's something abody else. So I don't know, 3787 04:13:33,280 --> 04:13:36,200 Speaker 1: we know it's almost blow. We was just smoking me 3788 04:13:36,600 --> 04:13:39,320 Speaker 1: brother steff me brother stuff we throw the white castle 3789 04:13:39,360 --> 04:13:43,680 Speaker 1: and plays bullat Bard. So by tomorrow, by tomorrow like 3790 04:13:43,880 --> 04:13:50,360 Speaker 1: cows be mad, sheeps like, yo, we're gonna borgy concept casting. 3791 04:13:51,640 --> 04:13:54,280 Speaker 1: And I wasn't this bit that I was playing both 3792 04:13:54,560 --> 04:13:58,800 Speaker 1: a little sim he was all skinny, so little summer, 3793 04:13:58,840 --> 04:14:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, so being proud like slowing town selling skinny. 3794 04:14:05,080 --> 04:14:10,040 Speaker 1: He's a skinny man, like about want to ahead, yo. 3795 04:14:10,200 --> 04:14:14,040 Speaker 1: So like I dropped something on the floor, it's step 3796 04:14:14,240 --> 04:14:16,800 Speaker 1: was eating one bite and throwing all this burgers on 3797 04:14:17,000 --> 04:14:28,080 Speaker 1: the floor. Hold say something something thing, man. They go 3798 04:14:28,360 --> 04:14:30,720 Speaker 1: like me and Bart had a problem before. And I 3799 04:14:30,800 --> 04:14:39,440 Speaker 1: apologize like I was remember Remember I would funny. That's 3800 04:14:39,480 --> 04:14:41,560 Speaker 1: a problem. I was a kid, And I apologize and 3801 04:14:41,600 --> 04:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want to say something. Yeah, Man. As 3802 04:14:50,000 --> 04:14:54,080 Speaker 1: a mixtape DJ in Miami, trying to trying to compete 3803 04:14:54,120 --> 04:14:56,800 Speaker 1: with these mixtapes coming from New York, the clues, the 3804 04:14:56,880 --> 04:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Tony touches, the s and s is and do wops, 3805 04:14:59,200 --> 04:15:02,400 Speaker 1: all these guys, I'm trying to get like the most 3806 04:15:02,560 --> 04:15:06,520 Speaker 1: underground ship that I can get my hands on. And 3807 04:15:06,680 --> 04:15:09,600 Speaker 1: CNN was that when I was able the white label 3808 04:15:09,680 --> 04:15:11,520 Speaker 1: of the L A l A and everything everything I 3809 04:15:11,560 --> 04:15:14,560 Speaker 1: can get hold you and then I hear and there's 3810 04:15:14,560 --> 04:15:17,760 Speaker 1: a Latino. I hear this guy throwing these Spanish words. 3811 04:15:18,360 --> 04:15:21,400 Speaker 1: He's not throwing for the right ways, but pretty Spanish. 3812 04:15:26,320 --> 04:15:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, we don't care. Just throw some Spanish working talking. 3813 04:15:31,480 --> 04:15:43,200 Speaker 1: We don't care if Mago doesn't belong there. I was like, oh, 3814 04:15:43,560 --> 04:15:46,640 Speaker 1: he's actually Pugan, but you know what speaking it's bad. 3815 04:15:49,480 --> 04:15:52,560 Speaker 1: But that that just it just I love the War Report. 3816 04:15:52,640 --> 04:15:56,560 Speaker 1: It means so much. And eventually to meet you know, 3817 04:15:56,840 --> 04:15:59,600 Speaker 1: on the on the promo room for the War Report, 3818 04:16:00,720 --> 04:16:02,800 Speaker 1: and then to be a part of like everything after that, 3819 04:16:02,960 --> 04:16:04,920 Speaker 1: and then actually become a part of the street team 3820 04:16:05,000 --> 04:16:08,680 Speaker 1: for Penalty and Tommy Boys, It's just it's just crazy 3821 04:16:08,760 --> 04:16:12,160 Speaker 1: to me. And this is this is why we have simps, guys. 3822 04:16:12,240 --> 04:16:15,280 Speaker 1: This is what drink Chance is that it's It's War 3823 04:16:15,400 --> 04:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Report and it comes to Miami and we all connect 3824 04:16:20,560 --> 04:16:30,280 Speaker 1: and then you have drink Chance. Before I'm gonna finish 3825 04:16:30,320 --> 04:16:33,800 Speaker 1: it out, let me say one thing, because I never 3826 04:16:33,920 --> 04:16:35,760 Speaker 1: get me for the flowers. I wish I had a 3827 04:16:35,840 --> 04:16:38,600 Speaker 1: thing to give you when I first came home in 3828 04:16:38,680 --> 04:16:44,320 Speaker 1: ninet made me feel so comfortable. You was five, get 3829 04:16:44,360 --> 04:17:00,520 Speaker 1: about it was not even born. Mind, It's as you are. 3830 04:17:00,600 --> 04:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Save absolutely to save people for nighty nights with you. Yeah. 3831 04:17:08,960 --> 04:17:12,320 Speaker 1: That says a lot about your character. That says a 3832 04:17:12,400 --> 04:17:15,200 Speaker 1: lot about your upbringing. That says a lot about dressing. 3833 04:17:16,600 --> 04:17:20,520 Speaker 1: And I appreciate you. You know, I've got you right now. 3834 04:17:20,640 --> 04:17:28,240 Speaker 1: It's about you push push push you right crazy there 3835 04:17:28,320 --> 04:17:31,040 Speaker 1: you go? How many how many knights? Howse with y'all? 3836 04:17:32,600 --> 04:17:38,240 Speaker 1: Y'all you're dirty things with you Charlie's games. Let's be 3837 04:17:41,200 --> 04:17:49,120 Speaker 1: to things. Why did you say choi Johnny with Jollie? 3838 04:17:54,400 --> 04:17:56,080 Speaker 1: You don't do that? Don't make me put you to 3839 04:17:59,080 --> 04:18:03,120 Speaker 1: see that. Want to tell because I gotta tell out. 3840 04:18:03,240 --> 04:18:05,520 Speaker 1: Even when I was quiet, when I was using what 3841 04:18:05,560 --> 04:18:10,560 Speaker 1: should amazing? You kidding about me? The same like people? 3842 04:18:10,600 --> 04:18:14,520 Speaker 1: That was stick your face everything absolutely nice stead he's 3843 04:18:14,520 --> 04:18:17,240 Speaker 1: straight up with down Syna be fast. But I also 3844 04:18:17,480 --> 04:18:23,280 Speaker 1: want you to thank you. Yeah, and you giving meat flower, 3845 04:18:23,480 --> 04:18:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about living out with living out. You're sign 3846 04:18:26,960 --> 04:18:34,720 Speaker 1: here you saw doubly eat nan. I'm rubbing up that 3847 04:18:35,280 --> 04:18:46,120 Speaker 1: eat that yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I think most amazing. Yea, 3848 04:18:53,280 --> 04:18:57,040 Speaker 1: why do you wait a minute? What you did? I 3849 04:18:57,160 --> 04:19:02,720 Speaker 1: go do? Couple Deceber fifteen, two thousand and fifteen, we 3850 04:19:02,960 --> 04:19:05,760 Speaker 1: bumped into each other and we're talking this is New 3851 04:19:05,880 --> 04:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Jersey and New Jersey Sheraton Hotel, and you said, yeah, 3852 04:19:11,400 --> 04:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm working on this, this podcast I got, I 3853 04:19:14,600 --> 04:19:17,520 Speaker 1: got a food show. I'm doing this. It's not a third. 3854 04:19:17,560 --> 04:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I was like, word, I yo, that sounds kind of great. 3855 04:19:20,000 --> 04:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Let's dope, this's not a third. And to see seven 3856 04:19:24,560 --> 04:19:28,480 Speaker 1: years later what you did, like literally, it wasn't like 3857 04:19:28,640 --> 04:19:31,760 Speaker 1: you said, it's it's coming, but to see that it 3858 04:19:32,080 --> 04:19:37,680 Speaker 1: happened to the degree that it did was impeccable. Brother. 3859 04:19:37,800 --> 04:19:40,880 Speaker 1: So I just want to say, we gotta acknowledge you 3860 04:19:41,160 --> 04:19:48,320 Speaker 1: for putting this together and making it happen. You. I'm 3861 04:19:48,320 --> 04:19:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it, hawking. I'm gonna do this with it. 3862 04:19:53,080 --> 04:19:56,520 Speaker 1: And I wanted, I wanted to stalk with you, but 3863 04:19:56,560 --> 04:19:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it even more with me. I'll off 3864 04:19:59,440 --> 04:20:06,120 Speaker 1: from him whoo because him and his family had did 3865 04:20:06,240 --> 04:20:09,880 Speaker 1: something for me. Come on that we're here. That didn't 3866 04:20:10,000 --> 04:20:14,600 Speaker 1: that didn't even make sense when at the time was 3867 04:20:15,640 --> 04:20:22,800 Speaker 1: I was known as the tough guy right played for 3868 04:20:22,880 --> 04:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Aime High and then aim High fired and found out 3869 04:20:28,080 --> 04:20:31,240 Speaker 1: found out was selling crack. What's aim High? Game High 3870 04:20:31,400 --> 04:20:38,120 Speaker 1: is with Kenny Anderson and Kenney Smith like a program. Yeah, 3871 04:20:38,240 --> 04:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, no problem. We we're gonna limit. Nick continued, 3872 04:20:42,280 --> 04:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Get the motion, come on, get the motion of the 3873 04:20:44,680 --> 04:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Papa Bottle brother over there. I feel like I feel 3874 04:20:49,000 --> 04:20:54,840 Speaker 1: like it's your bout Mottle the first time, A special 3875 04:20:55,760 --> 04:21:08,240 Speaker 1: special things over here. So I started and I started back. 3876 04:21:09,080 --> 04:21:14,920 Speaker 1: I started, Yeah, so I started in. What happened was 3877 04:21:16,040 --> 04:21:20,440 Speaker 1: aim High got rid of me, I muting fobb out 3878 04:21:20,480 --> 04:21:22,840 Speaker 1: what I was doing. And it's like say that saysn't work. 3879 04:21:23,400 --> 04:21:28,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't work out where I was a high, went 3880 04:21:28,480 --> 04:21:33,160 Speaker 1: to Coney Allen and then they realized Coney Allen don't 3881 04:21:33,200 --> 04:21:38,120 Speaker 1: have the same rule. They let their gangsters play on 3882 04:21:38,200 --> 04:21:47,400 Speaker 1: their team. Was just except that Mrs Smith immediately came 3883 04:21:47,440 --> 04:21:50,880 Speaker 1: back to the hood and said, you're back on him. 3884 04:21:54,960 --> 04:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Don't care. I don't want to sound like that because 3885 04:22:01,120 --> 04:22:03,000 Speaker 1: it made it sound like he cool. He didn't know 3886 04:22:03,200 --> 04:22:05,480 Speaker 1: what I was doing, but he knew I want to 3887 04:22:05,560 --> 04:22:07,840 Speaker 1: suck and he knew that he needed people. Was wasn't 3888 04:22:07,840 --> 04:22:12,120 Speaker 1: suckers on the team when you're gonna play? And Marl Burrow, 3889 04:22:12,920 --> 04:22:21,600 Speaker 1: that was all right, right, right stuff my mom holding Marf. 3890 04:22:21,680 --> 04:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I just iris, whatever, little top, little soup you were 3891 04:22:28,360 --> 04:22:36,080 Speaker 1: in back, go back to my hood. M and Brown 3892 04:22:36,440 --> 04:22:42,640 Speaker 1: was walking and Whenbrel was walking, Yeah, gotta come hang out. 3893 04:22:44,760 --> 04:22:52,000 Speaker 1: I ruined him. Needs life. One man was saying, cash, 3894 04:22:52,080 --> 04:22:56,200 Speaker 1: you're not popping that at all like a champagne. I'm 3895 04:22:56,200 --> 04:23:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna let shoot shot up. I'm not scaring hour Betty. 3896 04:23:10,320 --> 04:23:22,800 Speaker 1: You shot. I think it's crazy. I'm bouting for you. Wo. 3897 04:23:26,280 --> 04:23:44,520 Speaker 1: That was that was quick. Yeas one hurts. No, I 3898 04:23:44,640 --> 04:23:48,560 Speaker 1: didn't hear them. That don't guy's fret boy, But I 3899 04:23:48,680 --> 04:23:53,560 Speaker 1: didn't fight out here, be going to guys spend our 3900 04:23:53,680 --> 04:23:59,400 Speaker 1: dj H. I think I stole it from you right 3901 04:23:59,480 --> 04:24:06,640 Speaker 1: this week my dead. I'm not gonna thank you. So 3902 04:24:07,680 --> 04:24:10,000 Speaker 1: just being honest, I feel like he was using him wrong. 3903 04:24:13,200 --> 04:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Chip was using I'm not doing that. Come on, it's 3904 04:24:24,040 --> 04:24:29,320 Speaker 1: really pretty dry. Yeah, he just wanted to pick up 3905 04:24:29,320 --> 04:24:41,360 Speaker 1: pop your girls. Keep it real reasons, listen, keep it real. Yeah, 3906 04:24:41,440 --> 04:24:44,240 Speaker 1: when he met you, ill keep putting Miami and we 3907 04:24:44,360 --> 04:24:49,760 Speaker 1: live with week together. This terrible. It's kind of listen, 3908 04:24:49,880 --> 04:24:53,880 Speaker 1: what's keep it reacting? You back home? He just wanted 3909 04:24:53,920 --> 04:25:01,280 Speaker 1: you to chick. That's that's that's what, that's who we 3910 04:25:01,360 --> 04:25:17,120 Speaker 1: all say he's just the ball like mass te. Yeah, 3911 04:25:17,720 --> 04:25:19,640 Speaker 1: you believe in me and asked me up feeling in 3912 04:25:19,720 --> 04:25:21,920 Speaker 1: one day. But he also left you when he didn't paid. 3913 04:25:22,120 --> 04:25:28,800 Speaker 1: He didn't paid. This is where story like it. But 3914 04:25:28,920 --> 04:25:36,160 Speaker 1: who answer your text messages? I love what the hell 3915 04:25:36,240 --> 04:25:40,520 Speaker 1: can answers? You know, I don't talk about pol I'm 3916 04:25:40,520 --> 04:25:45,720 Speaker 1: talking about general. I like text messages. I like you 3917 04:25:46,520 --> 04:26:00,240 Speaker 1: see what are we? The way may you was what 3918 04:26:00,600 --> 04:26:09,280 Speaker 1: you want to ReOC You remember a reno? It was 3919 04:26:09,360 --> 04:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a set up. Jermaine Debreen name was djamb really straight? 3920 04:26:23,080 --> 04:26:27,120 Speaker 1: How take it, bron But by the way, this is 3921 04:26:27,800 --> 04:26:31,560 Speaker 1: this is let me be honest, neither be first time 3922 04:26:32,200 --> 04:26:36,280 Speaker 1: we all were approaching a number one record, getting there 3923 04:26:36,760 --> 04:26:41,440 Speaker 1: and Jermaine Debris says, I'm remixing the record. Your record 3924 04:26:41,960 --> 04:26:47,920 Speaker 1: is just Jamine's gonna remix super He says, it's the nil. 3925 04:26:48,560 --> 04:26:53,240 Speaker 1: When I'm at the ball and you know at this time, Jermaine, 3926 04:26:53,440 --> 04:26:57,040 Speaker 1: we have Jamaine the remix remix at that time. But 3927 04:26:57,200 --> 04:26:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't want no one to remix on record. I 3928 04:26:59,240 --> 04:27:03,680 Speaker 1: want these type shirt nudes, but these chokers, I want 3929 04:27:03,720 --> 04:27:05,560 Speaker 1: them to do the remix, but I can't tell us 3930 04:27:05,560 --> 04:27:08,840 Speaker 1: to deal all the time, He's like, glory, perfect ship 3931 04:27:09,800 --> 04:27:12,080 Speaker 1: that you made the bread into the remix. But I'm 3932 04:27:12,120 --> 04:27:20,840 Speaker 1: looking like the mo and then let's give him my 3933 04:27:20,880 --> 04:27:23,240 Speaker 1: father my dog curry on Neil Schmart, you got a 3934 04:27:23,280 --> 04:27:34,080 Speaker 1: little bit. First time that yeah, I was so like no, 3935 04:27:34,520 --> 04:27:37,960 Speaker 1: and then the next I don't remember. Remember this, y'all all? 3936 04:27:38,080 --> 04:27:42,720 Speaker 1: Remember this? You made the prisons little remix. It's a 3937 04:27:42,800 --> 04:27:46,040 Speaker 1: super dug put the brat on it? Yo? Who has 3938 04:27:46,120 --> 04:28:02,400 Speaker 1: that remix? Nah? Mah, your how are you? I can't. 3939 04:28:05,680 --> 04:28:07,840 Speaker 1: I would come in here. I listened to that ship. 3940 04:28:07,960 --> 04:28:16,960 Speaker 1: When I can here, I was like to show the stuff, 3941 04:28:16,960 --> 04:28:22,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like Teuta the way I just put that together. 3942 04:28:23,440 --> 04:28:27,280 Speaker 1: I described it as if I was offended from the 3943 04:28:27,400 --> 04:28:34,160 Speaker 1: brat in Jamaine. Remis wasn't offended. I just mentioned Rema 3944 04:28:35,720 --> 04:28:42,320 Speaker 1: REMI else and I can't remember who it was. It 3945 04:28:42,920 --> 04:28:46,200 Speaker 1: probably wasn't. No one here who rob the remixed, But 3946 04:28:46,320 --> 04:28:50,880 Speaker 1: everyone else was like it wasn't and it was your 3947 04:28:52,760 --> 04:28:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember it. Did your man remember it? And 3948 04:28:57,800 --> 04:29:11,520 Speaker 1: that never? No? Tell me what the cad to Sall 3949 04:29:11,720 --> 04:29:20,520 Speaker 1: River track it was. I don't know because when you 3950 04:29:20,640 --> 04:29:27,240 Speaker 1: got that box and I would away, I love the 3951 04:29:27,400 --> 04:29:30,600 Speaker 1: corn doing I was like me in the pre fat 3952 04:29:30,640 --> 04:29:34,960 Speaker 1: and I love him to fight, don't know. It was 3953 04:29:35,000 --> 04:29:39,480 Speaker 1: like we were nothing. You don't it was really real. 3954 04:29:39,640 --> 04:29:43,760 Speaker 1: It was. It was really a car. I'm in the 3955 04:29:43,880 --> 04:29:48,000 Speaker 1: car heading to do a cart. I was drinking Brady 3956 04:29:48,080 --> 04:29:55,240 Speaker 1: straight and we called him Moisius. And I can remember 3957 04:29:55,440 --> 04:29:58,280 Speaker 1: me just listening to it and just say, and by 3958 04:29:58,320 --> 04:30:02,280 Speaker 1: the way, I love what stuff but no, but you 3959 04:30:02,440 --> 04:30:06,560 Speaker 1: know know stuff. I went further. I was versed it 3960 04:30:07,320 --> 04:30:14,160 Speaker 1: disclosing exactly who knows you? Well? You do, but at 3961 04:30:14,200 --> 04:30:18,440 Speaker 1: the time Superdog is so big that they could have 3962 04:30:18,560 --> 04:30:23,320 Speaker 1: easily manipulated me. Said, probably you don't know the story. 3963 04:30:23,560 --> 04:30:25,840 Speaker 1: Y'all do know the story because y'all was there no 3964 04:30:26,040 --> 04:30:32,280 Speaker 1: record for the record. So then that happens. I paid 3965 04:30:32,360 --> 04:30:39,840 Speaker 1: for thee It was yos like this guys and gives 3966 04:30:40,040 --> 04:30:45,120 Speaker 1: us a new version of super Dog and my middle verse, 3967 04:30:45,240 --> 04:30:51,560 Speaker 1: which I love what's gone and the practice in there. Wow. 3968 04:30:51,880 --> 04:30:53,680 Speaker 1: And I listened to the ship and I was like, 3969 04:30:54,440 --> 04:30:58,680 Speaker 1: holy shit, I'm about to be commercial. I think I 3970 04:30:58,760 --> 04:31:01,880 Speaker 1: think the brack killed it. I want to hear it. No, no, no, 3971 04:31:02,240 --> 04:31:05,600 Speaker 1: killed it. But it just remember, wasn't aligned of what 3972 04:31:05,800 --> 04:31:07,840 Speaker 1: we were doing. I think you said that earlier what 3973 04:31:07,960 --> 04:31:10,800 Speaker 1: we were doing, and I was like, they fell victim. 3974 04:31:12,480 --> 04:31:14,640 Speaker 1: I said, we didn't put it out, except you never 3975 04:31:14,800 --> 04:31:18,200 Speaker 1: wanted out and you always said you don't want it, 3976 04:31:18,680 --> 04:31:21,640 Speaker 1: and just happened. I didn't want it, and for years 3977 04:31:21,840 --> 04:31:27,240 Speaker 1: I thought you made the creation. You probably probably he 3978 04:31:27,360 --> 04:31:30,640 Speaker 1: was no, no, but but he went to remind me 3979 04:31:30,760 --> 04:31:33,080 Speaker 1: like I hated you. He probably was upset. I would 3980 04:31:33,080 --> 04:31:35,520 Speaker 1: see it when he was like, you ain't take my remix. Motherfucker. 3981 04:31:35,720 --> 04:31:46,840 Speaker 1: He was shot. You know how big is made weird? Yeah, people, Yeah, 3982 04:31:47,560 --> 04:32:04,480 Speaker 1: you're right, party only. But Jermane Donna, I was saying, 3983 04:32:04,480 --> 04:32:08,120 Speaker 1: I was telling Nil that we flew down. Remember Card 3984 04:32:09,000 --> 04:32:11,960 Speaker 1: did two records with Jermaine, so I flew down with them. 3985 04:32:12,400 --> 04:32:17,200 Speaker 1: But Koda and Nelly at the time, so we flew 3986 04:32:17,240 --> 04:32:21,360 Speaker 1: in dirty. He plays the record, plays Nelly to Jermaine. 3987 04:32:21,680 --> 04:32:25,600 Speaker 1: Jermaine's like, yeah, he's cool. No, no, no, because meanwhile 3988 04:32:25,640 --> 04:32:29,480 Speaker 1: went down there in Jamaine has Ferrari. Here's like ridiculous whips, 3989 04:32:29,600 --> 04:32:33,280 Speaker 1: like bowl of car keys of like before the bow 3990 04:32:33,400 --> 04:32:38,120 Speaker 1: of the car, ridiculous at the time, ridiculous, crossing radio. 3991 04:32:38,320 --> 04:32:43,640 Speaker 1: It happened ridiculous and then he passes on Nelly and 3992 04:32:43,800 --> 04:32:47,200 Speaker 1: he does these records for this is Jermaine. He passes 3993 04:32:47,320 --> 04:32:50,560 Speaker 1: on Nelly, he does. But watch this as we're driving down, 3994 04:32:51,080 --> 04:32:54,440 Speaker 1: We're like, wow, that's crazy. Who's whose house is that. 3995 04:32:54,760 --> 04:32:56,760 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, that's a Vanda holy Field. It says 3996 04:32:56,800 --> 04:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Avanda holy Field Way, and its mile that's Rick Ross's correct. 3997 04:33:02,840 --> 04:33:06,840 Speaker 1: Probably that he bought was the name of it was 3998 04:33:06,960 --> 04:33:12,520 Speaker 1: promis Land. When I tell you miles land and property. 3999 04:33:12,640 --> 04:33:15,440 Speaker 1: The property was made in the back like way down 4000 04:33:15,520 --> 04:33:19,040 Speaker 1: there and wild property. And Jermaine was not too far 4001 04:33:19,160 --> 04:33:22,320 Speaker 1: from that. He had a he had a crip. He 4002 04:33:22,360 --> 04:33:26,120 Speaker 1: still lived there too. Oh ridiculous. So at the time 4003 04:33:26,800 --> 04:33:29,800 Speaker 1: he we presented Nellie and it's that not we but 4004 04:33:29,919 --> 04:33:34,800 Speaker 1: coulda presented Nellie and this to learn correct And he said, no, 4005 04:33:34,960 --> 04:33:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sing with him. And at the end of 4006 04:33:37,000 --> 04:33:39,800 Speaker 1: the day, Nelly y'all obviously got signed blew off the 4007 04:33:40,240 --> 04:33:46,680 Speaker 1: third crazy crazy Yeah net least fingerpop everything, Everything all 4008 04:33:46,800 --> 04:33:58,280 Speaker 1: comes back to everything, alter ending of everything. Nellie not quick, 4009 04:33:58,919 --> 04:34:06,160 Speaker 1: that's a little more to live on her couch. Dream 4010 04:34:06,200 --> 04:34:10,520 Speaker 1: chain was a fairytale. Finger Pupping is the ending popping 4011 04:34:11,240 --> 04:34:21,280 Speaker 1: listen man pop is a great thing. Fig But we 4012 04:34:21,400 --> 04:34:24,400 Speaker 1: know Fi, I just want to say it one more time. 4013 04:34:24,440 --> 04:34:31,360 Speaker 1: We reiterate everything, Oh Warri pass from so much success 4014 04:34:31,440 --> 04:34:40,640 Speaker 1: and so much joyous, so much whatever whatever that where 4015 04:34:40,640 --> 04:34:46,000 Speaker 1: we're here right now, it's a result of it. I've 4016 04:34:46,040 --> 04:34:49,840 Speaker 1: never I've never made this album and said, you know it, 4017 04:34:49,919 --> 04:34:52,400 Speaker 1: twenty five years later, I'm gonna be able to Spanish 4018 04:34:52,480 --> 04:34:56,640 Speaker 1: block listening to the flock because I just feel like 4019 04:34:56,680 --> 04:35:01,000 Speaker 1: the Spanish music playing right behind it. Part bears everywhere. 4020 04:35:05,080 --> 04:35:08,800 Speaker 1: Twenty five years later, with this, their trash fund up 4021 04:35:08,800 --> 04:35:15,000 Speaker 1: with this we signed up for five years ago, we 4022 04:35:15,160 --> 04:35:21,200 Speaker 1: all did. But you know what, ah, I can especially 4023 04:35:21,320 --> 04:35:25,080 Speaker 1: thinking trash, you know, for putting up for both for 4024 04:35:25,280 --> 04:35:30,520 Speaker 1: us prior to y'all being professionally being able to put 4025 04:35:30,600 --> 04:35:38,520 Speaker 1: up for us. But we're here and very thankful everything 4026 04:35:38,560 --> 04:35:42,120 Speaker 1: I went through, even the bad ship, the good ship, 4027 04:35:43,160 --> 04:35:46,440 Speaker 1: the medium ship, that's you, you know, the ship in between, 4028 04:35:46,560 --> 04:35:56,399 Speaker 1: like my whole and that little area is okay. Man, 4029 04:36:03,360 --> 04:36:12,120 Speaker 1: all been watching the football game and just scare usc 4030 04:36:12,360 --> 04:36:23,560 Speaker 1: fantastic say that. I'm not very serious. Man, Who do 4031 04:36:23,600 --> 04:36:26,600 Speaker 1: you watching basketball? I don't. I don't watch basketball. I 4032 04:36:26,720 --> 04:36:31,560 Speaker 1: watched no I watched basketball. I watched listen guy basketball 4033 04:36:33,919 --> 04:36:38,440 Speaker 1: coming in. But what I'm saying is, I'm very, very 4034 04:36:38,680 --> 04:36:43,000 Speaker 1: very thankful. But everyone who've been here, everyone who's Kaman, 4035 04:36:43,200 --> 04:36:50,080 Speaker 1: everyone who's a part of this album, because um, it 4036 04:36:50,160 --> 04:36:59,720 Speaker 1: truly is legendary. Mark speak on my life, legendary mark 4037 04:37:00,520 --> 04:37:05,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people's life, not just all. I had 4038 04:37:05,600 --> 04:37:10,320 Speaker 1: no idea talking about shooting somebody in my projects selling 4039 04:37:10,440 --> 04:37:16,200 Speaker 1: drugs to the person's art twenty five years later when 4040 04:37:16,240 --> 04:37:20,560 Speaker 1: we considered art, because I didn't put it in in 4041 04:37:20,640 --> 04:37:23,040 Speaker 1: the foul way. I put it in the artistic way. 4042 04:37:26,759 --> 04:37:31,079 Speaker 1: And it's beautiful. It's beautiful for being seeing what everyone 4043 04:37:31,240 --> 04:37:39,640 Speaker 1: has done their life leaving this coming back and again 4044 04:37:39,720 --> 04:37:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm thankful. Thankful my partner who was a fan of 4045 04:37:45,360 --> 04:37:50,559 Speaker 1: it prior to me meeting him, we didn't know me. Uh. 4046 04:37:51,200 --> 04:37:56,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for my DJ butch Uh who was from 4047 04:37:56,919 --> 04:37:59,800 Speaker 1: the other side of Queens and said, these guys are 4048 04:37:59,800 --> 04:38:03,440 Speaker 1: took about everything they're talking about because he knew exactly. 4049 04:38:03,919 --> 04:38:07,240 Speaker 1: Thank for for one of my closest friends who was 4050 04:38:07,280 --> 04:38:09,680 Speaker 1: a basketball player, who I probably sucked up with your 4051 04:38:09,720 --> 04:38:19,080 Speaker 1: basketball career a little bit, like a little bit. And 4052 04:38:19,200 --> 04:38:22,720 Speaker 1: then you know, you know what I'm thinking, my other, 4053 04:38:22,960 --> 04:38:28,079 Speaker 1: my other partner because the moment we met each other, 4054 04:38:28,360 --> 04:38:32,480 Speaker 1: we really just locked in. It was just like, you 4055 04:38:32,560 --> 04:38:36,960 Speaker 1: know what, fuck it, We're going do what the fun 4056 04:38:37,120 --> 04:38:40,840 Speaker 1: we want to do. And we did it, and we 4057 04:38:40,919 --> 04:38:43,440 Speaker 1: continue to do it. You're kind of doing it more 4058 04:38:43,520 --> 04:38:46,600 Speaker 1: than me. You keep doing them. Ship. I'm like, why 4059 04:38:54,040 --> 04:38:57,160 Speaker 1: you cant to you let me about your life and 4060 04:38:57,360 --> 04:39:00,120 Speaker 1: you you know the same ship with you. I got 4061 04:39:00,200 --> 04:39:06,360 Speaker 1: a question this guy saying with you know, you know, um, 4062 04:39:08,000 --> 04:39:10,760 Speaker 1: at one point, I can remember you learning the game, 4063 04:39:11,400 --> 04:39:14,120 Speaker 1: then you you venturing out, and then when you learning 4064 04:39:14,200 --> 04:39:17,199 Speaker 1: the game when you're home, then you know what's the game? 4065 04:39:17,600 --> 04:39:22,040 Speaker 1: It was two different things. Yeah, it was two different 4066 04:39:22,080 --> 04:39:23,600 Speaker 1: things that you learned in the game when you were 4067 04:39:23,600 --> 04:39:25,360 Speaker 1: supposed to learn the game, and then when you learn 4068 04:39:25,440 --> 04:39:28,680 Speaker 1: the game when your own And from Paul to Asap 4069 04:39:29,360 --> 04:39:32,920 Speaker 1: and for me to see your transitions, for me to 4070 04:39:32,960 --> 04:39:36,919 Speaker 1: see how calm and how collective you are now it's 4071 04:39:36,919 --> 04:39:47,520 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And I salute you know. We always 4072 04:39:47,800 --> 04:39:50,680 Speaker 1: want to give you more of your flowers than you deserve, 4073 04:39:52,840 --> 04:39:56,200 Speaker 1: because everyone here has said it. You know, we didn't 4074 04:39:56,240 --> 04:39:57,720 Speaker 1: we we didn't kind of know you was like the 4075 04:39:57,759 --> 04:40:02,320 Speaker 1: oracle back there. In fact, that's that's who you wind 4076 04:40:02,440 --> 04:40:07,920 Speaker 1: up being you, wind up being the or anybody who's 4077 04:40:07,919 --> 04:40:11,120 Speaker 1: sort of matrix. It was the art was a bad mother, 4078 04:40:13,600 --> 04:40:16,720 Speaker 1: good way in a great way, great way because you 4079 04:40:16,800 --> 04:40:22,200 Speaker 1: got you got good dog and the being. That's who 4080 04:40:22,280 --> 04:40:27,720 Speaker 1: you are for that's who you are. And we love that. 4081 04:40:28,160 --> 04:40:33,440 Speaker 1: I thank you, We love that, and we continue to 4082 04:40:33,520 --> 04:40:37,440 Speaker 1: love that. We continue to embrace it. Whether it's in 4083 04:40:37,520 --> 04:40:41,600 Speaker 1: your face or not in your face. Everyone comes around 4084 04:40:41,680 --> 04:40:46,600 Speaker 1: and says, you know what, Yeah, it was right. He 4085 04:40:46,720 --> 04:40:58,360 Speaker 1: might have been cheaty rights be responsible, responsible, So it's 4086 04:40:58,400 --> 04:41:12,440 Speaker 1: good that same responsible I tried. I tried to do 4087 04:41:12,640 --> 04:41:14,600 Speaker 1: a whole another record label. I try to make a 4088 04:41:14,640 --> 04:41:17,760 Speaker 1: whole other name. That my only thing that they said 4089 04:41:17,800 --> 04:41:26,920 Speaker 1: about me, said they I couldn't tell the thing, but 4090 04:41:27,080 --> 04:41:36,480 Speaker 1: I said, say he was sack. I keep playing about 4091 04:41:39,000 --> 04:41:42,640 Speaker 1: and I couldn't. I didn't want to call you so much, 4092 04:41:43,560 --> 04:41:45,280 Speaker 1: And then you called me that day. He was like, 4093 04:41:45,360 --> 04:41:46,760 Speaker 1: the man, but do you want to be at the 4094 04:41:46,840 --> 04:41:49,520 Speaker 1: Hip Hop Museum? I was like, just come to see me, 4095 04:41:51,400 --> 04:41:54,880 Speaker 1: because it was that same day Martin Mom. Moving on 4096 04:41:55,000 --> 04:42:01,160 Speaker 1: to you, Marian, I wanted to see you. I want 4097 04:42:01,240 --> 04:42:04,800 Speaker 1: to hang out with you. I wonder we generate everything 4098 04:42:04,919 --> 04:42:10,120 Speaker 1: that we did what makes me even more proud. What 4099 04:42:10,720 --> 04:42:20,280 Speaker 1: is tonight? She brought your wife? Hey man, you want 4100 04:42:21,320 --> 04:42:24,080 Speaker 1: my sign works here, but all my sons work for 4101 04:42:24,120 --> 04:42:30,080 Speaker 1: me somewhere. It's abound, but working for you because they're good. 4102 04:42:30,200 --> 04:42:34,200 Speaker 1: Are you paying them? Probably? I pay everybody keeps out. 4103 04:42:35,120 --> 04:42:38,160 Speaker 1: I pay the light. I don't even know why, but 4104 04:42:40,080 --> 04:42:45,480 Speaker 1: I but you know you to bring your family. I 4105 04:42:45,560 --> 04:42:50,160 Speaker 1: mean that in the world to me because you know, um, 4106 04:42:53,040 --> 04:42:57,360 Speaker 1: everything that we all went through all have better, right, 4107 04:42:57,440 --> 04:43:05,800 Speaker 1: a great memory. Yeah, for you to come you feel 4108 04:43:05,880 --> 04:43:09,560 Speaker 1: so okay made me feel like, you know what this 4109 04:43:09,680 --> 04:43:12,079 Speaker 1: is where we're supposed to move on to. Where we're 4110 04:43:12,080 --> 04:43:14,720 Speaker 1: supposed to go on to the next chapter of our 4111 04:43:14,840 --> 04:43:18,600 Speaker 1: life is our family. Is supposed to know our family sure, 4112 04:43:18,960 --> 04:43:22,040 Speaker 1: like like y'all y'r wife supposed to go coming out, 4113 04:43:24,520 --> 04:43:27,880 Speaker 1: get a bag or get a meal with my wife 4114 04:43:28,520 --> 04:43:31,840 Speaker 1: about calling up what I love about me and Fat 4115 04:43:31,919 --> 04:43:34,000 Speaker 1: Joe's relationship. I don't think me and Fat Joe's ever 4116 04:43:34,040 --> 04:43:37,920 Speaker 1: been on the phone. That's podcast our wives just told 4117 04:43:37,960 --> 04:43:39,400 Speaker 1: to me. I don't know why we think we get 4118 04:43:39,560 --> 04:43:44,760 Speaker 1: ambinos ship, but I actually enjoy it. And that's where 4119 04:43:44,960 --> 04:43:54,520 Speaker 1: me and you just go back for sure made him 4120 04:43:55,759 --> 04:44:00,920 Speaker 1: was ironically because when Martin left you kind of like yeah, 4121 04:44:01,040 --> 04:44:09,039 Speaker 1: you was, yeah, stay, that's why you got hold all 4122 04:44:09,080 --> 04:44:12,000 Speaker 1: the deaths. I've looked. I looked. I was like, yo, 4123 04:44:12,280 --> 04:44:14,520 Speaker 1: what's the word for that? I think was that it's 4124 04:44:14,560 --> 04:44:22,440 Speaker 1: a mos here some else, which was real, right, because 4125 04:44:22,800 --> 04:44:24,760 Speaker 1: that's real because if you think about it, if you 4126 04:44:24,800 --> 04:44:27,960 Speaker 1: were just Head for the worrid for very next album 4127 04:44:28,200 --> 04:44:31,000 Speaker 1: is r correct and if you listen to the r 4128 04:44:31,080 --> 04:44:34,320 Speaker 1: E skits, it's malfit as to me, it's you and 4129 04:44:34,520 --> 04:44:37,640 Speaker 1: Jungle straight up. A lot of people don't know that. 4130 04:44:39,480 --> 04:44:42,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, I bumped into with Jungle, with 4131 04:44:43,080 --> 04:44:50,760 Speaker 1: uh Andreesian Horrowitch with Ben Horwood, whole other thing. It's 4132 04:44:50,840 --> 04:44:56,800 Speaker 1: crazy there. But I'm at dinners and events and it's 4133 04:44:56,840 --> 04:44:59,720 Speaker 1: that Dirk with Ben and his family and feat your 4134 04:44:59,759 --> 04:45:02,960 Speaker 1: home into so Fie Horwitz and and meeting and that 4135 04:45:03,120 --> 04:45:07,320 Speaker 1: the double doubling back with Jungle, Like remember when we 4136 04:45:07,400 --> 04:45:08,960 Speaker 1: did to start a third and remember I called you. 4137 04:45:09,040 --> 04:45:10,560 Speaker 1: We was at the dinner. I was like, Yo, you 4138 04:45:10,600 --> 04:45:14,720 Speaker 1: don't in the dirt. So I say that to say 4139 04:45:16,720 --> 04:45:20,160 Speaker 1: proud of you, thank you, because through the grape vibe, 4140 04:45:20,919 --> 04:45:24,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't through just the Worridport through the grapevine. Everybody said, 4141 04:45:24,200 --> 04:45:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm good your man, it's doing No, I'm 4142 04:45:26,520 --> 04:45:33,600 Speaker 1: good this guy. I'm like, no, because luckily I'm doing 4143 04:45:33,720 --> 04:45:38,320 Speaker 1: great myself. I'm just going to tap in man made 4144 04:45:38,400 --> 04:45:40,760 Speaker 1: him is doing But at the time, I know the 4145 04:45:40,840 --> 04:45:43,160 Speaker 1: norms and they didn't do that. Then then people start 4146 04:45:43,200 --> 04:45:53,160 Speaker 1: calling you Greg and I said, to your first or 4147 04:45:53,280 --> 04:45:56,800 Speaker 1: last name, you did and I was like, what I was? 4148 04:45:57,600 --> 04:46:00,400 Speaker 1: I was, I'm so proud. I'm not not I was. 4149 04:46:00,960 --> 04:46:03,920 Speaker 1: I am so proud, and I'm so proud of this 4150 04:46:04,240 --> 04:46:07,480 Speaker 1: gene of just us being able to sit here and 4151 04:46:07,640 --> 04:46:15,400 Speaker 1: maintain this um camaraderie that's right, to be able to 4152 04:46:15,480 --> 04:46:18,960 Speaker 1: continue to represent the Worrid for it. I remember me 4153 04:46:19,240 --> 04:46:22,440 Speaker 1: Um sitting there with one of our producers, no producers, 4154 04:46:22,520 --> 04:46:25,640 Speaker 1: ask him, well, are you going to do a concert 4155 04:46:25,759 --> 04:46:31,120 Speaker 1: for it? And today's episode confined that I would definitely 4156 04:46:32,560 --> 04:46:38,600 Speaker 1: doing one concert. Now my leggers fucked up. We'll figure 4157 04:46:38,640 --> 04:46:47,200 Speaker 1: it out, like they're just going to the studios. Shouldn't 4158 04:46:47,400 --> 04:47:05,160 Speaker 1: under right, Yeah, I ain't gonna lots don't really. I 4159 04:47:05,280 --> 04:47:11,760 Speaker 1: could literally write it fast like radio. I would write 4160 04:47:12,240 --> 04:47:14,440 Speaker 1: the real ship. But the thing you think you ain't 4161 04:47:14,480 --> 04:47:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna do that. Listen, listen, but but what but but 4162 04:47:24,080 --> 04:47:28,800 Speaker 1: but real ship? Because I want everyone to know that, Oh, 4163 04:47:29,759 --> 04:47:33,120 Speaker 1: everything I said is not play around everything. It's really 4164 04:47:33,680 --> 04:47:37,520 Speaker 1: to live and to do it and to help with 4165 04:47:38,080 --> 04:47:40,360 Speaker 1: frags said earlier. Do you say you want to do 4166 04:47:40,440 --> 04:47:43,039 Speaker 1: it again? As I would love to do it again. 4167 04:47:44,280 --> 04:47:47,079 Speaker 1: I would love to do it again in a version 4168 04:47:49,280 --> 04:47:53,640 Speaker 1: I can do that studio. So I'm going to behind 4169 04:47:53,720 --> 04:47:59,240 Speaker 1: his brother, Like is the right spot different from me? 4170 04:47:59,600 --> 04:48:01,080 Speaker 1: You got to be in the city. They're gonna need 4171 04:48:01,160 --> 04:48:08,680 Speaker 1: the city to run. It just comes this difference that 4172 04:48:10,560 --> 04:48:14,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be in the city. You gotta be you 4173 04:48:15,040 --> 04:48:21,680 Speaker 1: want to go, but it's crazy street ninety guys, wat y'all, 4174 04:48:22,200 --> 04:48:27,440 Speaker 1: don't York a talent watching? You gonna mark read the 4175 04:48:27,560 --> 04:48:35,640 Speaker 1: beat anywhere and pick your beat and go somewhere, right, Picky, 4176 04:48:35,800 --> 04:48:37,240 Speaker 1: you gotta pick the beats in New York and be 4177 04:48:37,320 --> 04:48:41,840 Speaker 1: angry because I don't do it to do what produces 4178 04:48:42,440 --> 04:48:48,520 Speaker 1: next schools in the hood. Let's do what we do it? Ship, 4179 04:48:48,720 --> 04:48:50,640 Speaker 1: You do that day, I gotta high out of the 4180 04:48:50,720 --> 04:48:55,759 Speaker 1: next year, the next in the Yeah, I'm gonna doll. 4181 04:48:56,400 --> 04:49:07,480 Speaker 1: Don't you help talking to you? It's just gonna. Let's 4182 04:49:07,520 --> 04:49:15,520 Speaker 1: go to s Let's go. I've been ships all your feet. 4183 04:49:15,600 --> 04:49:26,160 Speaker 1: You know I got you. No, No, I'll never go back. No, guys, Toronto, 4184 04:49:26,200 --> 04:49:29,719 Speaker 1: I think it's a good place. You gotta do. Yo, 4185 04:49:29,880 --> 04:49:32,040 Speaker 1: we gotta go back to Power Play Man. Come on, man, 4186 04:49:32,080 --> 04:49:34,800 Speaker 1: they still got the reels, EP and d reels on 4187 04:49:34,960 --> 04:49:40,480 Speaker 1: the floor. Man there, let's go get a minute in 4188 04:49:40,520 --> 04:49:43,480 Speaker 1: the museum. You see how I roll. Let's come on. 4189 04:49:45,240 --> 04:49:47,239 Speaker 1: That's why we should looking it out. Already got him 4190 04:49:47,240 --> 04:49:51,320 Speaker 1: because I want to go to bell Are Man's they 4191 04:49:51,400 --> 04:49:58,880 Speaker 1: go there. 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