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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 3: Edo state is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo? And no them and tie Dan River see

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Speaker 1: welcome back, my friends. You believe we're at week two?

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Speaker 1: All ready? Welcome back? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I was thinking we were going to get

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Speaker 3: I was feeling good about this week being week two.

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Speaker 3: I'm really good. Week two is one of my I

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Speaker 3: don't know, top five weeks of the season. It's up

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Speaker 3: there because, as I like to say, all season long,

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Speaker 3: all off season long, there's no time like week two

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Speaker 3: in terms of change. There's no better time for teams

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Speaker 3: to improve and to prove that they're not who they

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Speaker 3: are in week one than week two. It's real easy

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Speaker 3: that way. This one is a particularly interesting one. Time

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Speaker 3: you think, well, so I think, beyond everything, we're just

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Speaker 3: excited for football. We're excited for the actual football. But

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Speaker 3: when you look at the matchups from week two, there's

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Speaker 3: a certain amount of emotion at play, there's a certain

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Speaker 3: from week one? Is that for real? Or what do

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Speaker 3: that going to continue? And I was looking at this,

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Speaker 3: and so you have the emotion of Syhawk, you have

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Speaker 3: have the Border War returning, right, You have all these

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Speaker 3: little things throughout the sport. And I was thinking to myself, well,

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Speaker 3: what encapsulates this kind of grouping of teams? That's what

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Speaker 3: I do every week TI. But like, we've got a

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Speaker 3: revenge spot with Ole miss Kentucky, with Vanderbilt Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: And there's all sorts of just different kinds of emotions

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Speaker 3: intensions built into everything we're seeing ahead of us in

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Speaker 3: even seen the Border war since two thousand and eleven,

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Speaker 3: I believe, right correct, that's as you are yourself wearing

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Speaker 3: some sort of disastrous hue of Missouri yellow.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I gotta brighten it up around here. I'm

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Speaker 1: always wearing these dark colors. I need to make myself

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Speaker 1: stand out in the video frame, So bite your tongue, sir.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm the kids at the birthday party will

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Speaker 3: appreciate it more than I do.

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Speaker 1: Later, Kate did ask me when I came downstairs if

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Speaker 1: I was planning on working construction today, because it definitely

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Speaker 3: I would say, it's, oh, thank you, it's like Chick

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Speaker 3: fil a sauce yellow, Like I think.

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Speaker 1: It's brighter yellow than that. Maybe I'm trying to mix

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Speaker 3: So the last time I play is twenty eleven. The

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Speaker 3: last time they played being twenty eleven the number one

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven. It was a dell okay. And I looked

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Speaker 3: at the emotions. I looked at the tensions. I have

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Speaker 3: this as somebody. I think, someone like you Saturday, thank you,

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Speaker 3: someone like you Colin. There's a history there. There's history there.

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Speaker 3: And across the board Week two, it's not rivalry week

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Speaker 3: you here. It's only week two and we're already feeling

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Speaker 3: these preambles. Man, I know, I know, there's just so

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Speaker 3: many different like interesting Matt, like UNLVUCLA has stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was looking at it. I mean, you're the

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Speaker 1: official naming guru on the show. But I had two options.

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Speaker 1: The Other one, and this is more directed at you

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in something or someone what is it? Something

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Speaker 1: Who had to prove nothing to nobody except yourself? Who

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Speaker 1: needs to prove what? In Week two? What do you

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Speaker 1: It was part of the free YouTube thing that I doubted? Nice? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Who has the most approven week two man? I, I

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Speaker 3: Well? Aside from the yellowish hue of your shirt inspiring

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Speaker 3: That didn't do much for me. I look at these

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Speaker 3: other teams, like Mississippi State doesn't have a ton to prove.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have four teams, You're actually five teams, okay,

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Speaker 3: This is definitely a take care of business if you

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think they're up there. Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech needs to prove it can bounce back in

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Speaker 1: They played really well defensively, with the exception of that

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Speaker 1: Tech was in that game, albeit a very ugly game

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Speaker 1: there is clearly some upward mobility there if you can

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Speaker 1: undercurrent within the Virginia Tech community is one of like,

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Speaker 1: to see the results here? You got to beat Vandy.

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Speaker 3: Vandy is now a team you have something to prove

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Speaker 1: I agree the other one here, and it's not so

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Speaker 1: and its offensive line, Yeah, because it's a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Last year they're going up against a good front seven

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Speaker 1: proving that they belong because the reality of the G

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Speaker 1: a lot to prove. Of course there are more. Of course,

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Speaker 3: I think that's right. I think that's absolutely right in

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Speaker 3: terms of the provables. There's a lot for a ton

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Speaker 1: We've got to be excited, We've got to be hopeful

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Speaker 3: You don't have to. You've seen new evidence that can

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Speaker 1: But also, Kirk Ferns has been doing this a long

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Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. I think, I think I'm

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Speaker 3: Nobody is better at having bad quarterback play unintentionally than

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Speaker 3: You got to give people a real reason here, Ty,

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Speaker 1: I am so heavily invested in Iowa at this point

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Speaker 3: But we quit people of murder when new evidence comes

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Speaker 1: take the arrows on Saturday night. If for whatever reason

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Speaker 1: IOWA were to lose this game, I will take it.

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Speaker 1: I am unabashedly on the side of IOWA in this game.

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Speaker 1: They were winning this one out right on the arm

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Speaker 1: of Mark Ronowski. Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought your your theory was going to be

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Speaker 3: like Hank Brown drugged Mark Gronowski, But no.

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Speaker 1: It looked like you might have drugged Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: that one play action pass where he kind of rolled

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Speaker 1: out to the right and then he one hopped Charlie

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Speaker 1: did into a guy wide open in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: That was I listen. I hope for the sake of

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Speaker 3: my own personal entertainment that IOWA was often looks a

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Speaker 3: lot better this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I would love that twelve o'clock high noon Eastern time

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Speaker 1: The Duke Blue Devils, Illinois favored by three on the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very quietly, a monster game. I agree too. Now you're

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Speaker 1: calling it the Shire Showdown. Can you explain that connection

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Speaker 1: again for the verball.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it just John Shire's from where I now live

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Speaker 3: in the North Shore of Chicago, and there was a

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Speaker 3: lot of hope that he was gonna end up at Illinois.

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Speaker 3: I think his high school coach, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it's Bruce Weber, the then Illinois's coach. Brother that there

478
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Speaker 3: was the hope that he was going to go to Illinois.

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Speaker 3: He's like a legendary icon of high school basketball here

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Speaker 3: and esjewed the local school for Duke where he became,

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Speaker 3: you know, an icon in his own right and is

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Speaker 3: now the head coach the coach Duke. Yeah, he's the

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Speaker 3: head coach of Duke. And I think Duke beat Illinois

484
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Speaker 3: had like the worst beatdown of Illinois basketball history last year,

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Speaker 3: super Flag. The other thing I not John Shire related

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Speaker 3: as I was researching Saturday, just in angelic tones, because

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for this scar tissue. I'm looking for this

488
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Speaker 3: bad blood to support my theory that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of unease, intention and heartbreak in the air. Who was

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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator for Luke Altmeyer's clear worst game ever?

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Speaker 3: Is Illinois starting quarterback?

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Speaker 1: That would be Manny Diaz.

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Speaker 3: Manny Diaz. Lu Laumar got benched going against Manny Diaz

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Speaker 3: through four picks. Yeah, and now we're getting, you know,

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Speaker 3: a face to face reunion. So there is something here.

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Speaker 1: Oh myer Ds Illinois versus Duke Dan. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: an extend and invite to you this week, this week only. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you are duly invited to join me in the Mensa

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Speaker 1: Society and go with Duke Blue Devil's home Dog of

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Speaker 1: the week, the Yakos Home Dog of the week. Explain yourself.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this when we preview the ACC. Duke's

502
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Speaker 1: in a weird position right now, and it's it's weird

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Speaker 1: if only because it's under the radar, maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the more reliable mid tier teams the ACC. And this

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Speaker 1: is one of those games that the set at the top.

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Speaker 1: Illinois's got to have this man like if it fashions

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Speaker 1: itself as a playoff contender, even a conference contender at

508
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Speaker 1: a minimum, they got to prove that what we saw

509
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Speaker 1: last year was not fools gold and that they could

510
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Speaker 1: go on the road against a good team and win.

511
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Speaker 1: And I think Duke is a good team, and I'm

512
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Speaker 1: saying this is somebody who's got Illinois as like a

513
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Speaker 1: fringe playoff team. I like Illinois a lot, but I

514
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Speaker 1: think this is a tough spot for them. The weird

515
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Speaker 1: part in looking over both these teams is how much

516
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Speaker 1: they have in common. Actually, there's a lot here. There's

517
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Speaker 1: two teams with a ton back, two good duel threat quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: two teams with questions out wide. There are two reasons

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Speaker 1: where I liked, Why I like Duke and why I

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Speaker 1: like him outright. The first is that Illinois had no

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Speaker 1: pass rush last season whatsoever. Now that's not to say

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Speaker 1: they won't get better. They had four sacks last week,

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Speaker 1: albeit against you know, the team that is not the

524
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Speaker 1: caliber of Duke. But was it Western Illinois something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am not too high on giving Darien Mensa a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of time. Like I legit think he's one

527
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Speaker 1: of the ten best quarterbacks in college football at least

528
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Speaker 1: has that kind of potential. I don't like letting him

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Speaker 1: sit back there and pick apart a team a great

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Speaker 1: and I think there's possibility here that that could happen.

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Speaker 1: And then the second thing is to your point from earlier,

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Speaker 1: like it was Havoc City in Durham last year, they

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Speaker 1: had forty three sacks, one hundred and sixteen tackles for loss.

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Speaker 1: And I cannot overlook the fact that they have a

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Speaker 1: real ability with Manny Diaz at the helm, to change

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Speaker 1: the game with an aggressive, attacking, playmaking defense. Sure, so

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Speaker 1: I think this is tight. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: good game. I've got this one at Duke twenty two twenty,

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Speaker 1: winning at home, pulling the upset.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think I'm going Duke here as well.

541
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Speaker 3: So the concern here is Duke needs to be able

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Speaker 3: to run the ball. They were a terrible running team

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Speaker 3: last week. They showed a little bit. I think they

544
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Speaker 3: beat Elon last week, and they did it largely. It

545
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: was actually a pretty balanced effort. But they need to

546
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Speaker 3: be able to prove to everybody that they can run

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Speaker 3: this year, and Illinois needs to prove they can stop

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Speaker 3: the run up front. Illinois was less than stellar last year.

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Speaker 3: You talked about the past rush. They were not good

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Speaker 3: defending the run last year. I like the idea that

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Speaker 3: Duke is not a particularly deep team. This is when

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Speaker 3: to succeed if you're a Duke, right when you're at

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Speaker 3: your healthiest, early on in September. So I'm going Duke

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Speaker 3: because I think quarterback is probably even I really like

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Speaker 3: Luke Altmeyer, but I Darien Mensa at home. I like

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Speaker 3: where this Duke offense is heading. I think Illinois is

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Speaker 3: gonna be a good team this year. I'm just not

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Speaker 3: sold on great yet. So I'm going Duke here. I

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Speaker 3: think they're able to frustrate once again. Luke Altmeyer not

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Speaker 3: to the level where he was against Penn State. It's

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Speaker 3: just a different talent he's throwing into uh when he's

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Speaker 3: playing Penn State. So I'm going Duke here. I think situationally,

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Speaker 3: it's the play and I think they're going to be

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Speaker 3: really strong against this Illinois defense.

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Speaker 1: So we agree. We agree. Let's go to three point

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Speaker 1: thirty ESPN two. Kansas on the road at Miszoo. They

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Speaker 1: call it the Border War. Yes, it is a rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: As you said at the top, it has not been

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Speaker 1: played since twenty eleven. What do we do in rivalry games?

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Speaker 1: You gotta throw out those records. Kansas two and o

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Speaker 1: Miszoo one to oh, doesn't matter. It's a rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: We got Missoo favored by six and one half points. Dan,

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Speaker 1: what's your gut? Tell you here?

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Speaker 3: My gut is actually Kansas, even though I love Miszoo

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Speaker 3: this season overall and it's scheduled. My gut is the

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Speaker 3: way Kansas has come out and played defense. Now, their

577
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: opponents haven't been great, it's a first year Fresno State

578
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: team whatever, but they've been no nonsense on defense. They've

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Speaker 3: moved the ball ridiculously well and there is something a

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Speaker 3: little bit scary to me about there being too much

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Speaker 3: emotion and too much pressure on Miszoo at home with

582
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Speaker 3: this renewed rivalry game where Kansas can go into it

583
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: as like a business trip and Miszoo has something to

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Speaker 3: prove in front of its home fans. And it's Bo

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Speaker 3: Pribula's first start against an FBS team, a real team,

586
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Speaker 3: a legit team. And there's also like Sam Horn's hurt now, right,

587
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: So how comfortable they're going to be running Bo Pribula

588
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: knowing that there's not anything proven behind him, Like, I

589
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Speaker 3: think I'm going Kansas here outright, just to cover I

590
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Speaker 3: think I'm going Kansas outright. I think I have Kansas

591
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Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's that's that spicy.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit of I like Miszoo. I do

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Speaker 3: like Miszoo. I think there is something fun about can

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Speaker 3: this being in more of a rhythm. Given that they

596
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: played a real program in week one, I think they

597
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: had they'd certainly have the quarterback seasoning advantage.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was in J Warner Rebula one, So

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00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: just kind of commit that to time. I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: But DJ Warner didn't play defense, true, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think Kansas is a little bit more rhythmic right now.

602
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: And I think the vibes are so high in Columbia

603
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: right now with Bo Pribulah and looking as good as

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00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: they did on offense, that this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the Week one to Week two come down. Wow, that's

606
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: like four out of five and a Thai restaurant right there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: You got appropriate level of Spicer and those peppers. Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 1: I I'm actually I'm gonna go Miszoo outright, but I'm

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00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: going to take Kansas to cover. And that's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a cop out, but I had a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the same thing going all where I was

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Speaker 1: flip flopping on this one all morning when I was

614
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Speaker 1: trying to put this together. I think the problem on

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00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: the Kansas side is a completely new at linebacker b

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Speaker 1: secondary that's in transition. Sure, and you can get away

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00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: with that against a lot of teams, especially if you're

618
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Speaker 1: able to play offense. And I still think Kansas will

619
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Speaker 1: be pretty good at running the football this year. They've

620
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Speaker 1: got a good backfield, they've got Jalen Daniels. They will

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Speaker 1: find ways to utilize that control clock. It's not going

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Speaker 1: to be like a NASCAR offense. You can't, like we

623
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: could throw that out. But Miszoo can go more run

624
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: heavy now with Prabulah as the guy. Sure, and it's

625
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: easy to forget about Amad Hardy, who only had ten

626
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: carries a week ago but went for one hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: The combination of those two guys now in a real

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Speaker 1: game against a real team, a rivalry game that they

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Speaker 1: want to win, you can do some stuff with them, man,

630
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Speaker 1: and you can put a lot of strain on the

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Speaker 1: second and third level of the defense in doing so. Sure,

632
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: and so I think that, and in particular, is what

633
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I like the most in this game. I do think

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00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Kansas is going to be plucky as hell all season long.

635
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: This is gonna be vintage Lancelide pulled Kansas. I e.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be a pain in the ass. Right. So

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Speaker 1: I think Miszoo wins, but I could absolutely see Kansas

638
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: keeping this one closer, maybe even pulling the upset. I

639
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: got it. I got more points than you. I've got

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Speaker 1: thirty five thirty one, Missoo winning Kansas covering. Okay, we

641
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Speaker 1: just agree, let's go to seven thirty ESPN two. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of stinky line Saturdays, what's this Arizona State minus six

643
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Speaker 1: and a half? That's it on the road at Mississippi State. Dan,

644
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Speaker 1: Here is the important context. This is why I'm shrugging

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Speaker 1: in my bright yellow shirt. Please which team had the

646
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Speaker 1: lowest win total in all the SEC last year? This year?

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Speaker 1: Coming into the season, Vegas expected the least. Oh yeah, okay,

648
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Speaker 1: SEC team. I Assumesissippi State three and a half was there?

649
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Speaker 1: Over under, they were the lowest in the conference, Arizona State.

650
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: If you saw the latest poll, they're number twelve in

651
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: the country, universally viewed as a contender in the Big twelve.

652
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: Why is this line so low? Why is this is

653
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: ringing around in my head as I'm looking at this game,

654
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what does our friend Tim Murray? What do

655
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: our friends in the desert? What do they know that

656
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: we don't? Why is this line under a touchdown?

657
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: To be clear, Tim Murray does not set lines.

658
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: He doesn't, but he's adjacent to the people that that's true.

659
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: What do they know Dan, that they're not telling us?

660
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: It's week two. It's a difficult place to play that

661
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: the best of Mississippi State might be interesting despite a

662
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: slow start last week that Arizona State relied on Camp

663
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: Scataboo for two hundred and sixty two yards in this matchup.

664
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Speaker 3: Last year, it was the game of the season, I guess,

665
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: leading up other than the Iowa State game in the

666
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: Big Twelve championship game. And they didn't run away from

667
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: Mississippi State last year with cam Scatta. But what was

668
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: the final score?

669
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Last year?

670
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: They won by let single digits? I believe, Yeah, they

671
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: won by a touchdown. So the thinking is this year's

672
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Arizona State team, like everybody else, is not fully formed.

673
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: You're going to a difficult place to play your first

674
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: road game, and there is talent on this Mississippi State roster.

675
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 3: They should be improved from where they were last year.

676
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: They're not going to be incredible, but situationally, it's not

677
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: horrible for the Bulldogs.

678
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: But what if they're horrible? That's what I keep coming

679
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: back to.

680
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm totally with you.

681
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they can be as horrible as they

682
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: were last year, right because they took in a bunch

683
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: of transfers and they're definitely I mean, there's more than

684
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: enough evidence that what's the rule?

685
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: The rule is if your flummex by a line, lean

686
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: into it.

687
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: Right. I can't, though I can in good faith into

688
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: this and for as much as I believe down into

689
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: my marrow that the people doing this and paying the

690
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: bills doing this out in Vegas are smarter than us

691
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: two idiots. Sure, The only reason I would take Mississippi

692
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: State is because either the line stinks and is making

693
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: me second guess it, or because I had some epiphany,

694
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: or Mississippi State showed me some epiphany and either Blake

695
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Shaping or the ground game or the defense, or something

696
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: popped in week one to make me feel otherwise. It

697
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: is good that Blake Shapen is healthy. That's a bonus.

698
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: It is good that the backfield should be solid. I

699
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the meat of this offense. Right,

700
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: But this was a historically bad defense a year ago,

701
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: and even though they brought in transfers and they should

702
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: be better, it's still a lot to expect. It's just

703
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna click now, you know. It did? Like last week

704
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: that was close for a half that game until they

705
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: got moved, until they figured it out. They're not alone

706
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: in that category. Half of college football took a half

707
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: to get going. So we can't really even hold that

708
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: against them. But if they had gone out and blown

709
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: the doors off of Southern miss maybe then maybe then

710
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, I kind of get I got

711
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: asu by ten. I can't realistically throw my hat in

712
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: the ring on the Mississippi state side.

713
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: Hot rain in the forecast, by the way, for Starkville rain, Well,

714
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a hot day and

715
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: there's rain in the forecast.

716
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so a bit of a soupy atmosphere.

717
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: You're thinking soupy stanky Starkville. Yeah, okay, I don't know

718
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: if it's super stanky sloppy Starkville as well.

719
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: Could be.

720
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Speaker 3: I don't get the line either. I'm leaning into it.

721
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm going plus points with the home team literal home dogs.

722
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: Are they your home dog of the week? No, no,

723
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: is Duke your home dog the week? Or do you

724
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: have another one? I have another one? Oh, let's do

725
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: some quick hits. Shall we do a speed run here?

726
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: Also at seven thirty ACC Network, this is Vanderbilt, this

727
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: is Virginia Tech. At last look, this is a one

728
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: point line in favor of Virginia Tech. Dan bit of

729
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: a revenge spot as we talked about earlier, this is

730
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: one that went to overtime a year ago. I did

731
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: read some positive updates on Terry and Stewart. The big

732
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: running back transfer came to Blacksburg from Bowling Green. That

733
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: would be a really nice boost for this backfield. They

734
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: could get him back and healthy. They didn't have him

735
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Speaker 1: in that South Carolina game. I guess it remains to

736
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: be seen whether that would have changed anything because South

737
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Carolina was pretty dominant, sure with their defensive front, But.

738
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Speaker 3: Who you got. I went back and forth with I

739
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: think Vanderbilt's better. Really, honestly, I just think Vanderbilt's better.

740
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't take their Week one results. They

741
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: took air business obviously. I think they have the quarterback advantage.

742
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: I think Virginia Tech will not be as sloppy in

743
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: as many phases as they were. You're going to see improvement.

744
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: You mentioned the health thing. You're going to see improvement

745
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: from week one to week two. I just think if

746
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: this is going to be a relatively close game, like

747
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: the line indicates, why would you take Virginia Tech in

748
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: a relatively close game? If I think it's going to

749
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: be close. If I think these teams are relatively even matched.

750
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Why would you go with Virginia Tech in a close

751
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: game after what we've seen from them? So I'm going Vandy.

752
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: These are some hard trews that you're bringing out today,

753
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, whether you're talking about the shirt

754
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: or you're talking about the sound, talking about the week,

755
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: or talking about Virginia Tech. Right, I'm going to say

756
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: something here that actually makes me sad. There was like

757
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: a visceral sadness when I jotted this down in my

758
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: note sheet. But you have to close your dippin' dots

759
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: location I did, Yeah, I did. Times are tough man

760
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: in this economy.

761
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: You know you're still wearing the shirt though, continue.

762
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: This is an act of self preservation to say this. Okay, okay,

763
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: does a show about honesty. I like Virginia Tech. I'm

764
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: going to bat for Virginia Tech. Went on these Suns

765
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: of Saturday podcast a few weeks back, a great team podcast.

766
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Love those guys. They do an awesome job. Talk through

767
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Why I was high on Virginia Tech. I

768
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: am picking Virginia Tech here. If they lose, though, I'm out.

769
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: I am that's atably out before the ACC season even now,

770
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm fully out. This is a Vandy team

771
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: that leads the SEC in returning production. They are a

772
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: good team, but they're over under is like five and

773
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: a half or it was coming into this season. If

774
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: they played in the ACC seven to eight win team,

775
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: you think is that fair? Sure, I think they'd be

776
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good team if they played in the ACC.

777
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: But this is not a great team. It isn't and

778
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: this is not a team that Virginia Tech should lose to.

779
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: It just isn't. Dan So Tech should be able to

780
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: move the ball through the air. I think it should

781
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: be there. I think Aiden Green, they're wide out who

782
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: I love, should have a big game. There is absolutely

783
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: no reason why Kyen Drones shouldn't have a really good

784
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: stat line coming out of this one. I'm not saying

785
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be thirty to thirty five, but it

786
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't be fifteen for thirty five like it was a

787
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: week ago. It just can't be. It can't be if

788
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: you're Brent Pride. So I don't know what they gotta do,

789
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: all right, I don't know. I don't know what the

790
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: voodoo is this week to kind of get the team

791
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: on the same page and get rid of the dumb

792
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: mistakes and all that from a week ago.

793
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

794
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I am on Tech here. If they lose, I am out.

795
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: I will personally start the John Gruden rumors. Okay, I

796
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: will personally any rumors. Whoever bring back Fuentes, doesn't matter,

797
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: do that, don't do that, whatever it takes. I am

798
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: out if they lose. That is my referendum.

799
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: It's also a letdown spot for Virginia Tech, right, it

800
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: could be. Yeah, a little lethargic after losing against a

801
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: high profile team last week on a neutral site NFL stadium. Okay,

802
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm in on Vandy.

803
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: Let's go twelve o'clock high noon on the c dub Okay,

804
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Baylor on the road at SMU. SMU favored by three.

805
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: This is a thousand percent going to be a shootout.

806
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: Thousand percent a shootout coming here.

807
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

808
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm terrified that they're going to put Kevin Jennings on

809
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: the run and they're going to skewer Baylor the way

810
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: that Jackson Arnold did. Now, that's not quite Kevin Jennings game.

811
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: He's not maybe as much of a runner though he can.

812
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I think that will be there for SMU, and I

813
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: think points will be easier to come by than the

814
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Baylor Faithful with one. My SMU theory this year is

815
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: that they're going to take a step back because they

816
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: lost a lot. But if you kind of think it

817
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: through and you know what they've got on the other side,

818
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: like this should be a game where Baylor can get

819
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: some stuff going. Yeah, I think especially on the ground.

820
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: We tend to think a lot of Sawyer Robertson through

821
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: the air, but I think Baylor can get it going

822
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm inclined to take the points here

823
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: because I like doing that in a shootout, but I

824
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: also think Baylor is the better team, So I think

825
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: a lot of points. I think it's close for a while.

826
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I think Baylor pulls away late. I've got it at

827
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Speaker 1: forty two thirty one, Baylor with the win.

828
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: See, I think there's a lot of points here. But

829
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: if the clear worst part of what appears to be

830
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: these two teams is Baylor's defense after last week, and

831
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: everybody should be extended to grace get better between week

832
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: one and week two. I'm just not sure that what

833
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: I saw from Baylor's defense against Auburn is immediately fixable

834
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: going against a really good quarterback in Kevin Jennings. So

835
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Speaker 3: I'm with you, SMU takes a step back. I think

836
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: there are going to be a lot of points. But

837
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: I think it's almost similar to what happened last week

838
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: against Auburn. I think RHT Lashley is a really good coach.

839
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: I still think even with the new guys on offense,

840
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: that there there's gonna be a productive offense. Okay, so

841
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: it's not a crazy road trip obviously going from Waco

842
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 3: to Dallas, but I still have SMU as the home

843
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: team winning this game. I don't know, forty one to

844
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: thirty something like that.

845
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: We made this road trip up from I guess we

846
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: started in Austin. In Austin, yeah, and drove our way

847
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: up to Waco. Is where we stopped.

848
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Speaker 3: I think we stopped at the at the Bucket the

849
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: BUCkies in Temple. It wasn't it's not far from Waco.

850
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you are making this journey and you stop

851
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: at that BUCkies, send us a picture on our Twitter

852
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: account it's good BUCkies, or tag us on an Instagram

853
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that was my first BUCkies experience. Same

854
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: and we tried that.

855
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: Actually, that's not true. I've been a couple.

856
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the popcorn thing that we tried? The

857
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: BUCkies corn.

858
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: They're like beaver nuggets. I want to say I tried that.

859
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: It was like instant heart attack.

860
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. If I had like another handful, I would have

861
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: had to pull over. That was That was a heavy experience. Yeah,

862
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: it was about forty minutes south of Waco. Beaver Nuggets

863
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: were the worst part of that journey for me. BUCkies

864
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: was incredible, but BUCkies was great. But yeah, the beaver Nuggets,

865
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: that was not for me. Three thirty ABC Another revenge game.

866
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: Isn't it Old Miss at Kentucky?

867
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course it is.

868
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: Ole Miss favored by ten on the road. They had

869
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: the inexplicable loss last year to Kentucky. It definitely flew

870
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: in their face when they tried to talk playoff at

871
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: the end of the year. I'm just fully out on

872
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Kentucky right now. I'm fully out. And Okay, realistically, what

873
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: have they got to score to beat Old Miss in

874
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: this one? Like thirty points? You think twenty eight points last.

875
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: Year was only twenty last year? Miss team?

876
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: What about the Okay, so you think it's lower than

877
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: thirty You think it's lower than twenty eight. How much

878
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: did they need to score in order to win.

879
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: In this year's matchup after the bad blood from last season.

880
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: Unless they can go back and replay last year, right, Yes,

881
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: this year.

882
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: I think Ole Miss is going to be especially motivated.

883
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: I think if I were to feel good about Kentucky

884
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: winning this game outright, I would have to be assured

885
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: that they can score thirty. I don't think you can

886
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: assure me of that.

887
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: I've got Old Miss lock of the week, luck of

888
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: the week, and I hate doing it. Yeah, road game

889
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: in the SEC, but I just I'm not feeling it

890
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: with Kentucky. I don't think they've got the firepower to

891
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: score enough to win this one, even a cover I've

892
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: got at thirty one seventeen in favor of Old Miss

893
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: and bigger picture. Yeah, if we were to reinstitute the

894
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: old drive for three to twenty five that Iowa had

895
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: two years ago, now, I guess, but we were using

896
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: that on the Kentucky side, Yeah, would you bet the over?

897
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: No? Now, Look, they're going to improve, which is not

898
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: something you could have said about Kentucky last season.

899
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: Correct.

900
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: I think Kentucky's defense will be pretty good this year, sure,

901
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: and that can be enough to cover this game. There's

902
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 3: a lot new there's there are ole Miss offensive line

903
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: questions this year. Scoring twenty five a game I'm not

904
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: in on after seeing the passing quote unquote attack against

905
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: Toledo from last.

906
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: They scored twenty four against Toledo. Yeah, and there are

907
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of teams in this schedule with really good defenses.

908
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have to if if they're gonna

909
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: hit that three to twenty five, I'll keep track of it.

910
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: What the hell they have? Ye twenty five points per

911
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: game over thirteen games would get you to three twenty

912
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: five over the courts of the season. They would need

913
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: to run it up in Week three against East Michigan

914
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan. They would need to run it up a

915
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: little bit later in the year against Tennessee Tech. But

916
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the way South Carolina, Georgia both on

917
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: the road, Texas and Tennessee both at home, Auburn on

918
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: the road, Florida at home close out the year at

919
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: Vandy at Louisville. Got to win those two. I'm not

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: in on Kentucky as a bowl team at all. I'm

921
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: just done with this team. But those are a lot

922
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: of tough defenses on that schedule. Even Vandy should have

923
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: a decent defense with all that they have back, especially

924
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: by that point in the season. So for as fun

925
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: as it was with Iowa, and as big of a

926
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: punchline as it ended up being on the Brian Farrence side, yeah,

927
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: if we extend that a little bit out and go

928
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: a little bit farther south and east, I think there's

929
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: a question there about Kentucky what they can do on offense. Again,

930
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm locking up Old Miss. I got it at thirty

931
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: one seventeen. I don't think, I Meancky has what it

932
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: takes to score with these guys.

933
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: So the question with Ole Miss is is their offense

934
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: fully formed or how close to fully formed? Is this

935
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: offense with Austin Simmons and offensive line questions, I think

936
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: their skill is going to be fine. You see, har

937
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Wallace went off last week, yep, yep, get to that

938
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: winning place.

939
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: Crazy, absolutely crazy, So God, I.

940
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: Don't think it's fully formed. He threw a couple as

941
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: Simons threw a couple picks. I think only one was

942
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: his fault. I was really searching for reasons to go

943
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: double digit dog at home, but I don't have it.

944
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: Thirty to thirteen Ole miss.

945
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Three more quick. Let's speed run these Let's get to

946
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: a few under the radar games. Okay, I mentioned this one,

947
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: but Friday, seven pm ESPN two, James Madison on the

948
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: road at Louisville. This line is about fourteen in favor

949
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: of Louisville. This is a de facto national championship situation

950
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: for JMU.

951
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 3: Except it's not at home.

952
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: Not home, right, But they they got to keep this

953
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: one close at a minimum if they want to be

954
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: taken seriously come playoff time. This is their one big

955
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: shot against a non con team.

956
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 3: That's true.

957
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: And I think this is a crazy interesting matchup because

958
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: JMU is going to try running the crap out of

959
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: the ball. They had forty four carries over three hundred yards.

960
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: They had four touchdowns last weekend's Weber State Weaver State.

961
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: My theory when we did a preview was that Bobby

962
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: Chesney was gonna run the ever loving daylight side of

963
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: the football and he wanted to beat your brains in

964
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah, and if they can get that

965
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: going against Louisville, which I'm not sure they can, but

966
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: if they try and if they have success, they can

967
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: milk the clock, they can shorten the game, and I

968
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: think they can, which is why I'm going Dukes plus

969
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: fourteen here. I really like this team, so if this

970
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: comes back to bite me, so be it. I don't

971
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: think their defense is good enough to win outright. It's

972
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: a good defense for the Sun Belt. I don't know

973
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: if it's good enough to hold down Louisville. I think

974
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: this is a good game. Maybe a backdoor cover situation.

975
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: I got it at something like thirty five twenty seven Louisville.

976
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: Louisville's my lock of the week.

977
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Whoa bluck of the week?

978
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna destroy him.

979
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: Wow.

980
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 3: I just think you have to look again. I've using

981
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: the term fully formed, and this is the first real

982
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: game for both of these teams. But at home, JAMU

983
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: is gonna have Louisville's attention. I don't love Miller Moss,

984
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't love the ceiling of this team, and actually

985
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: must do by this.

986
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: My mouth is like a gape at this. I can't

987
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: believe you went lock of the week.

988
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going lock of the week here. Wow. I

989
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: just I don't think that JAMU on defense is going

990
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: to have the guys, I don't love JAMU right now

991
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: against Louisville's defense as a complete offense. Yeah, I'm going

992
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: Louisville here. I think they're gonna win by three or

993
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: four touchdowns.

994
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Fair enough, three p thirty CBS, Oklahoma State on the

995
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: road at your Oregon ducks Oregon to twenty eight point favorite. Yeah,

996
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: seems like too much, buddy, They're gonna beat them by

997
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: forty plus. You think, yes, I'm going to Oregon forty

998
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: one to twenty four.

999
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

1000
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I am not the biggest Oklahoma State fan. Twenty eight

1001
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: is way too much.

1002
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: Here's here's how the week started out. The week started

1003
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: out with Mike Gundy making pre excuses for why they're

1004
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: getting blown out, right to catch that, Gundy talking about

1005
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: Oregon's budget and they shouldn't be playing each other because

1006
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 3: Oregon should be playing teams with similar budgets and Oklahoma

1007
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: State should be playing teams with similar budgets.

1008
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, do you think we're going

1009
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: to get some sort of frosty handshake situation as a

1010
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: result of some of that?

1011
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: Well, Landing said specifically how much he respected Mike Gundy's

1012
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: accomplishments and his ability as a coach. He wasn't being

1013
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: like mean about it. He was being a little bit pithy,

1014
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: saying that, like, you know, we spend to win, and

1015
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: it sounds to me like somebody's saving money so they

1016
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: have built in excuses something like that. Yeah, that's me paraphrasing.

1017
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: Oregon's really good this year. Oklahoma State lost its starting

1018
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: quarterback already they're going to be playing. I think he's

1019
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: a third year red shirt freshman, he's had a red

1020
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: shirt year and a hardshe medical hardship year, and he's

1021
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: essentially making his big game debut in Oughtsen Stadium as

1022
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: a basically a thirty point underdog with not a ton

1023
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: to love about where Oklahoma State is heading even short term.

1024
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: Listen, listen.

1025
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: I am just telling you Oregon was probably going to

1026
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: be a lot better than Oklahoma State going into the

1027
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: game no matter what. And now you're giving them fuel,

1028
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: Like I think Oregon wins this game something like fifty

1029
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: two to ten.

1030
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Wow.

1031
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: Oregon owed nothing last week. They went five deep at

1032
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: a ton of different positions. I'm just I'm telling you,

1033
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be ugly.

1034
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: I think this is a Gundy game. I think he

1035
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: uses some dark magic and keeps it relatively close to

1036
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: just confuse everyone the rest of the year, because you

1037
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: know he does this too. I still don't think Oklahoma

1038
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: State's any good, and I have the same questions about

1039
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: directionally where this program is set it right. Twenty eight

1040
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: is too much. That's just way too much. Seven forty one,

1041
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: forty one, twenty four, seventeen points.

1042
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: You think they're gonna score twenty four points on Oregon

1043
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: with Zaye Flores?

1044
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: That is what I'm saying.

1045
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 3: Yes, you think this defense is going to hold Oregon

1046
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: to forty Okay, buddy, they weren't that impressive against you

1047
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 3: team Martin? Well, they lost, were they? They lost a

1048
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: quarterback They won by twenty Okay, so the quarterback who

1049
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: came in, Zane Flores.

1050
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: Listen, you can. You can make fun of that pick

1051
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: all you want. Why isn't the line higher, Dan? If

1052
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna win the points, shouldn't the line

1053
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: be higher?

1054
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: Well?

1055
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma State in name brings it down a

1056
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: little bit. Oh, that's what it is. So the Vegas

1057
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: odds makers saw the name Gundy, and they say we

1058
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: should actually give them.

1059
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 3: So Oklahoma State, it's early on. They won the game

1060
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: by twenty last week. I'm just I'm telling you now, because.

1061
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: That's what those guys do. They play emotions all the time.

1062
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: No, it's a big number. Tie, it is a big number.

1063
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: I just like the big number.

1064
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Fair enough, listen. I admire the elbow grease that you've

1065
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: put into this pick. I'm trying last, but not least,

1066
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: SEC Network South Florida USF on the road at Florida,

1067
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: Florida favored by seventeen seventeen and a half points, depends

1068
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: where you look. USF a big win last week over

1069
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: Boise State, killed him at home thirty four to seven.

1070
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Did not have them winning by twenty seven over Boise State. Now,

1071
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: I like them, and I still like them to win

1072
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: the American but I did not have that on the

1073
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: Bingo card. Good team, veteran team, eight starters back, I

1074
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: think on both sides of the ball. USF. That was

1075
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: part of why I like them. And of course Byron Brown,

1076
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: who's a fun quarterback, always gives him a chance on

1077
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: every play. He's going to keep them interesting. If nothing more,

1078
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: this season, Florida's just way better. There's way better across

1079
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: the board. They will not make the same mistakes that

1080
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: Boise made a week ago. Boise was very mistake prone. Yep,

1081
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: Florida is not going to do that. The danger I

1082
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: think in this matchup is that USF likes to play quick,

1083
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: and if you play quick and it doesn't work, that

1084
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: means more chances for the other guy. And the other

1085
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: guy happens to be Dj Lagway, who I really like

1086
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: this year. I like Dj Lagway more than anything on

1087
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: the USF side. All right, So this to me feels

1088
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: like a game that could get out of hand, and

1089
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: I think it's close for maybe a quarter and a

1090
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: half something like that, at which point Florida gets a

1091
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: turnover or gets a couple stops and they start to

1092
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: pull away because I don't trust that the USF defense

1093
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: is going to offer much resistant tier. I think the

1094
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: Gators win. I think they cover. I think it's something

1095
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: like forty to seventeen.

1096
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: I think Florida is way better. I agree with everything

1097
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 3: you said. There is something else at play here, though.

1098
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 3: What does Florida have after USF.

1099
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: Oh, you're thinking a little bit of a look ahead.

1100
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: They have at LSU at Miami, and I think a

1101
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: bye before Texas.

1102
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: So what's the psychology. Then the psychology is this is

1103
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: just a whatever game. We're favored by seventeen points.

1104
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's in state, it's never whatever. I think USF

1105
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: is trying to complete the trifecta. They've beaten as a program,

1106
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: they've beaten Miami. In Florida state, They've came close in

1107
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, I think billion Napier's first year, but

1108
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: couldn't get it done, lost by like three points or something.

1109
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: So Florida's going to take this game seriously. Florida now

1110
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: has the advantage of watching USF take down a playoff

1111
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: team from last year in Boise State. So USF is

1112
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: going to have Florida's attention. I just at the same

1113
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: time think there is something about Florida knowing what's coming

1114
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: up the rest of the month in early October and saying,

1115
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, how much attention are we giving to us

1116
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: F right now? So I have Florida winning this game.

1117
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: The line once again is.

1118
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: What seventeen seventeen and a half somewhere in that neighborhood.

1119
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to say Florida barely

1120
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: covers maybe like a what is it a front door cover?

1121
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't I don't have the sound here.

1122
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: People don't like when I play that sound because there's

1123
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: a doorbell and it drives the dolls nuts, which I

1124
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: can I can totally relate to that. So I should

1125
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: probably redo that sound. But for I could see a

1126
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: front door thirty four to fourteen Florida, Yeah, I could

1127
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: see a front door situation here. Yeah. To be fair,

1128
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: they're good enough even if they overlook South Florida to

1129
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: beat South Florida handily. Agree, this is a really good

1130
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: Florida team that you know, after we get through a

1131
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: couple more weeks of this, we can maybe rejigger playoff rankings,

1132
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: rejigger brackets and things of that nature. But if Florida

1133
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: looks as good as it looked against allbe at Long Island.

1134
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: I would say, you actually don't know, nobody knows how to.

1135
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: So of Long Island. If they look that good, if

1136
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: we see it again this week, then maybe we could

1137
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about it. But Florida, Florida's loaded.

1138
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: We have no concept for Florida, though we don't we

1139
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: don't have a concept of DJ Lagway as starting the

1140
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 3: season as the guy and if the defensive changes and

1141
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: the guys coming back are still what we think they are, Like,

1142
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: we don't. We just don't know, and this week will

1143
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: go a long way to determining that. But no, we

1144
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 3: don't know this Yere's Florida team, just like we didn't

1145
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: know this Yere's Florida State team, just like we didn't

1146
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: know this year's Boise team. Just like you know, there's

1147
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 3: a lot of these instances. So yeah, I'm going Florida

1148
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 3: to barely cover, but I don't feel great about it

1149
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: given what's coming up.

1150
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: By the way, clear your calendar for week three. Oh buddy,

1151
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: we got Georgia at Tennessee. We got Texas A and

1152
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: M at Notre Dame Florida, who you just mentioned, on

1153
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: the road at LSU. We've also got an Arkansas Old

1154
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: Miss game, which could be weird, always weird. We've got

1155
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: Clemson on the road at Georgia Tech, which, who knows,

1156
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: could be a little bit weird. You're going to be

1157
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: at Oregon versus Northwestern in the portable stadium, which I

1158
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: don't this is true. I don't expect any high jinks there,

1159
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: but at least that's worth noting on our show right

1160
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: South Florida at Miami, they've got another one. So there's

1161
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of interesting, really interesting games two weeks out.

1162
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: But let's put the cart before the horse. I've got

1163
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: a few under the radar games that I'm very interested

1164
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: in discussing with you.

1165
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm ready.

1166
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: We did this on our episode a week ago. We

1167
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: had some people email in ideas of their own for

1168
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: under the radar games. But these are games that you

1169
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't like. They might not be all the way at

1170
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: the top of billing, but just worth noting. Under the

1171
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Radar games. Dan, I've been talking about this one since

1172
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: we did our previews. This is five PM, this is

1173
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: SEC Network. This is the first ever meeting between these

1174
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: two teams, if you can believe it. Okay, Arkansas State

1175
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: on the road against Arkansas. They are playing this one

1176
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: at War Memorial Stadium for what it's worth, in case

1177
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: anybody cares, if you know the area War Memorial Stadium

1178
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: Historic Grounds. Sure, I think Arkansas State can score. I

1179
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: know they won't play any defense. They just won't. They

1180
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: like went full control. A delete on that side of

1181
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: the ball doesn't matter if their offense is fun Jalen

1182
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: Rainer is legit a good quarterback on the Arkansas side.

1183
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw what Taylor Green did

1184
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: last week. Oh yeah, Taylor Creed looked incredible. He looked incredible.

1185
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: The Red Wolves do not have an answer for him.

1186
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: I think they can cover. I think this is forty

1187
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: two twenty. I would take the points here in Arkansas State.

1188
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's a big number. I might be

1189
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: with you.

1190
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: Big number. Rivalry. I mean they say it's a rivalry.

1191
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: It's two teams from Arkansas that they've never played right, right,

1192
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: But this is a game that they've been trying to

1193
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: get it on the roots for a long time, and

1194
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: they finally make it happen in War Memorial Stadium, maybe

1195
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: like the last game in War Memorial Stadium. Sure, I'm

1196
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: on Arkansas State and the Red Wolves. I think they're

1197
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: a fun team and they can score.

1198
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: Okay, a little bit of a shootout for a stretch

1199
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: of this one. Yeah, I have Arkansas winning. But yeah,

1200
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: Arkansas State by Although'll keep it to like now fifteen

1201
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: or sixteen.

1202
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: Another one under the radar, high noon ESPN two Virginia

1203
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: at NC State. Mm hmm.

1204
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 3: The Robert and I classic ooh.

1205
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nate Annihilation should be better than Virginia.

1206
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, defense is good against Eco.

1207
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but is that not the story of NC State

1208
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: football right now that they should be something that they

1209
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: just haven't been. We have no idea what Virginia is

1210
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: this year with how they've overhauled things. I think the

1211
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: Who's win out right. I was impressed with Chandler Morris.

1212
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: I think I think it's thirty five thirty one Who's.

1213
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the home team here, home team,

1214
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: with what I think is going to be a pretty

1215
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: good defense. I think it's gonna be a fun back

1216
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 3: and forth. But I'm going to NC State to close

1217
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: it out.

1218
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: Seven thirty NBC Boston College at Michigan State. Yeah, Michigan

1219
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: State favored by three and a half, four and a

1220
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 1: half points. Somewhere in that neighborhood. Something about this game

1221
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: just feel real ugly to me, real ugly, real, sort

1222
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: of like carrying the torch of really bad Saturday night

1223
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: NBC games. But I think it's fun, and I like

1224
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: Michigan State.

1225
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: I'll take I LIKEBC here. I like BC by ten,

1226
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: double digits, by double digit I was not super impressed

1227
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: with Michigan State. Against Western Michigan offense didn't have a

1228
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: ton of pop through the air. And if you're not

1229
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 3: doing it against Western Michigan, I think BC is better here.

1230
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of not being impressed. Eight pm, CBS Sports Network,

1231
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: Ucla on the road at UNLV. Ucla is a two

1232
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: and a half point road favorite.

1233
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, UNLV home dog of the week. Vegas is catching up.

1234
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: Literally, Vegas the Yokos home dog of the week. My

1235
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: hand was shaking. That's why I didn't hit the button

1236
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: quick enough. I'm with you. I've got UNLV.

1237
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: Outright, Okay. I don't love you and lv's defense. This

1238
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: is a different team than where they were these past

1239
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 3: couple of years. This is their super Bowl. It is

1240
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: Look at UNLV's home schedule, yep, this is their super Bowl.

1241
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: Is they have an opportunity to beat a Big ten

1242
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 3: team at home. It's not a look ahead spot for UCLA.

1243
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: I think they have New Mexico and Northwestern or something

1244
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: coming up, but no UNLV in terms of size of

1245
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: the game for this program. By the way, I did

1246
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: look it up, there is the like the tension, bad blood.

1247
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: Jerry Tarkanian love to needle UCLA basketball talking about the

1248
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: Sam Gilbert era when talking about John Wooden, who Sam

1249
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: Gilbert is, Oh, yeah, this is a deep this is

1250
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: quality research day, thank you very much.

1251
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1252
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, but that may have been while he

1253
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 3: was at where else did Tark coach Long Beach State?

1254
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Something like that? Yeah, but I'm going you in LV here.

1255
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to run on UCLA.

1256
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: If you think for one second Dan Mullen didn't look

1257
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: at the box score from the UCLA Utah game and

1258
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: noticed that Utah ran for almost three hundred yards. You

1259
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: don't know, Dan Mullen, it's post to Utah Ucla, so

1260
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: it's maybe an early body blow as well. He is

1261
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: going to run. They're going to win outright, Yeah, and

1262
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: UCLA is going to slip further into the depths of

1263
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: the Spirit's a good thing they got Nico because I

1264
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: think the rest of the team is worse YEP and

1265
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: saying it, saying it for weeks now, but whatever. Three

1266
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN plus the I thirty five rivalry game. Yes,

1267
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: Texas State UTSA, UTSA favored by four and a half points.

1268
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: Despite being a rivalry, they've only played this game five times.

1269
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: Texas State got the win last year after four straight losses.

1270
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: They got smoked, or I should say they smoked UTSA

1271
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: forty nine to ten. I am on UTSA here. UTSA

1272
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: forty two to twenty four last week against Texas A

1273
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: and M actually looked pretty good to my eye, all

1274
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: things considered. They led in time of possession, they had

1275
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: no turnovers, they didn't get skewed on the ground by

1276
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: A and M. And I think they've got a pretty

1277
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: good quarterback in OWM account So I'm going UTSA minus

1278
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: the points.

1279
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: To be clear, UTSA as a program has not existed

1280
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: for very long, which is why they had to play.

1281
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: Also very true this game too many times. I'm gonna

1282
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: go UTSA as well at home. I feel good about them.

1283
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: I think the offense is going to come alive against

1284
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: Texas State.

1285
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: I got three more or four more on my list

1286
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: that I'll go let real quick high newon ACC Network.

1287
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: Yukon at Syracuse. Syracuse is favored by seven. This was

1288
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Speaker 1: a thirty one to twenty four game a year ago.

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Speaker 1: I think Syracuse is way better, but I think this

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: is a very big game for Yukon, so if nothing more,

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: it will be interesting. I've got Syracuse to win and cover.

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01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, good, Big East bad blood though I think Jim

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01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 3: Calhoun and Jim Beheim liked each other, so uh not

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 3: actual bad blood there. So I'm gonna go Syracuse as well.

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Speaker 3: I think they're a big candidate for Week one to

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Speaker 3: Week two jump, so I'll have Syracuse covering this game.

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Speaker 3: They win by eleven.

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Speaker 1: I thought about locking up West Virginia minus three on

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Speaker 1: the road at Ohio right four pm ESPN U They're

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01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: only three point road favorite against Ohio the Bobcats. Bobcats

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Speaker 1: are very new, obviously, West Virginia is very new. West

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Speaker 1: Virginia won their game in resounding fashion a week ago.

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: I would be inclined to go West Virginia here minus whatever.

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01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: I really like West Virginia in the spot and I

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I thought they look pretty damn

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01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: good last week.

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Speaker 3: Oh I should have beaten Rutgers Park. Navarrow was really

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: good against a big ten team last week. Sure, I'm

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: gonna go Ohio here, go Bobcats all right, and I

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: think Finalginia overlooks them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah two, fine, I have two games here finally seven

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Speaker 1: pm ESPN plus Western Kentucky versus Toledo. Toledo favored by

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: five and a half points.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this is a look ahead spot for

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: West Virginia as well with backyard brawl next week.

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna rescind what I said there. Okay,

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01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: that creeps me out. I'm gonna go Western Kentucky pust

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: the points. I'm going WKU as well. I don't trust

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: Toledo to cover that. And in the final game here

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna mention unless you've got anything else in

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01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: your agenda. Yeah, not because they're gonna win, but just

1322
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: because there's all sorts of weird tension right now. Seven

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: five sec Network ULM the Mighty Warhawks on the road

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01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: against the Alabama Crimson tied. Alabama favored by about thirty

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01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: seven thirty eight points. Yeah, Ulm is gonna run. That's

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of all they can do. They're gonna try to

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: run it on Alabama. They should not be able to

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: run it on Alabama. And I don't think they're gonna

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: play much defense, So I don't know if they cover

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01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: this point spread, but there is clearly motivation on the

1331
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: Alabama on the Kalin Debor side to try and score

1332
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: a thousand points in this game to shut people up,

1333
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of people talking right now.

1334
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, just watch it under the radar,

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01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: don't put this in the quad, don't do that to yourself.

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Watch the highlights afterwards, but just pay attention to this one. Given,

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: given what's percolating right now, a Tuscalos, it might be

1338
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: meaningful to keep tabs on this.

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: One limb from lim Alabama. But an interesting one tie. Yeah,

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01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: South Alabama hosting Tulane. Oh situationally okay, South Alabama had

1341
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: a really good offense last year. Tulane at home beat

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 3: a big ten team, albeit you know it's Northwestern. Tulane

1343
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 3: has last year's quarterback next week, Oh Darien Mensa and

1344
01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 3: Duke against Tulane next week. I think the really look

1345
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: ahead potential for two lane bad blood there right, This

1346
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 3: is basically the facto super Bowl for South Alabama. For

1347
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: the Jags. Jags good offense last year, I think they

1348
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: can ugly this one up and cover.

1349
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. That's like three out of five

1350
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: at the Tai restaurant.

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01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: Thank you very much your.

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: Window of opportunity, by the way, oh way, yeah, please,

1353
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: I think you can go out go see cats. Between

1354
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: we did have somebody messages. I don't know if you

1355
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: saw this, who actually had tickets to see like a

1356
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: community showing of cats?

1357
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 3: Nice?

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01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: Did it? Actually literally took my advice? Somewhere between four

1359
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: and nine pm Eastern time is your window if you

1360
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: want to go out, be amongst the people, go see

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: a production. Maybe Hamlet's your thing. I saw the producers

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: recently at a community stage. It was excellent. Great, You've

1363
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: got about a five hour block of time there to

1364
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: go out, be with the family, be with the friends.

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: I think you'll be fine, won't miss too much. But

1366
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: you want to be back by nine eastern because I

1367
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: do think there's going to be some crazy potential second

1368
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: half of that Michigan Oklahoma game.

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01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: So get in a date night before next week's monstrous.

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: Yeah you got listen. You got to plan in this game.

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: That's the only way to fly. You got. You gotta

1372
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: be thinking on your toes in advance. Next week's a

1373
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: big one. Next week you don't want to be I mean,

1374
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you one next week if you have to

1375
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: get out, if you have to run some errands or whatever,

1376
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: because that's what we do on this show. But don't

1377
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: don't put yourself against the wall like this man. You know,

1378
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: don't plan for anything next week, do it this week.

1379
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 3: Ford, I would take Tie's advice. He is dressed like

1380
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: a penalty flag.

1381
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: After all, continue, You've gone through a couple different iterations

1382
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: of this. I'm proud of you again, your ideal quad

1383
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: this week. By the way, my question to you is

1384
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: how bad you really want place? If you really want

1385
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: to perch in front of the TV and watch it all,

1386
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: it's at high noon. It's Iowa, Iowa State, It's Illinois Duke,

1387
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: It's Baylor SMU, and probably yukonnor Syracuse. If you don't

1388
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: want Yukon versus Syracuse, you could go Central Michigan versus

1389
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: pitt see your potential ACC champion. Sure, you could go

1390
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: FIU versus Penn State to see your potential national champion.

1391
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: Or you could go San Jose State versus Texas to

1392
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: watch the Mighty Spartans upset Arch Manning and the Texas

1393
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: Longhorns at home.

1394
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I like this fighting words, spicy words.

1395
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't honestly believe that, but but that's a quad.

1396
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: If it happens, If it happens, you have the clip.

1397
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm wearing the color of yellow.

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01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: That's true. I don't know what that means.

1399
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'm wearing the same shade of yellow as the

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: San Jose State Okay Spartans, Yeah, yeah, that's true. I

1401
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same. Shait I have not

1402
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: compared the hex values of their color to this shirt,

1403
01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: but it's somewhere in the vicinity of Queso. Dip, continue

1404
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: case it, DIP's your best one yet. I think that's

1405
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: the actual shade. Is am I wearing? I think it's

1406
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: more nacho cheese. Okay, that's all I got. Man, this

1407
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: was a great show. I think we can I request them?

1408
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: Can I request something?

1409
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: What's that?

1410
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 3: Can you? Can you play some big, stanky, sweaty, dripping,

1411
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: drenching Drummond Fife?

1412
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: Baby, oh baby baby, All right, let's get through this

1413
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: high noon Eastern Times, Sacred Heart coming in with a

1414
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: lot of heart. They got no shot against the Lehigh

1415
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: Mountain Hawks.

1416
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to engineers Big.

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01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,520
Speaker 1: One PM Wagner on the road at Georgetown. You besmirched

1418
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: the name of the Hoyas last week as they were

1419
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: on the road, but now they're Davidson Yeah. Now they're

1420
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: back at Multi sport Field.

1421
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna win this one by forty fifty points.

1422
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we agree. One pm buck Nellvan Nelly's on the

1423
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: road at Merrist Where is Marist? Is that New York?

1424
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 3: I believe so? I believe it's in the Hudson Valley somewhere.

1425
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll go Marrist. I never picked the Nelly's.

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01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: I'm going Nelly's here Big, probably twenty twenty five points.

1427
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: One pm Lafayette. Yeah, on the road at stone Hill. Yeah,

1428
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 1: it sounds like a butter company.

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: Where is stone Hill College? Tye? It's an Easton Mass,

1430
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: Easton Mass, easton Massachusetts. Is this Easton Bowl? It looks

1431
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: like it is the Eastern Bowl. This is dude, It's

1432
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: not even It's not close to anything here. It's near Brockton,

1433
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: West Bridgewater, Okay, not terribly far from Chartley, Plainville, North Attleborough.

1434
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 3: It's south of Boston, Okay, between Boston and Providence.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, uh, I'll go Lafiete.

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 3: I'm going to Lafayette Big.

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: Six pm Monmouth on the road at fordham FORDAM got

1438
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: smoked last week.

1439
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 3: I got a text from Ralph Russo saying, how could

1440
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: you pick BC to smoke Fordam really smoked for them.

1441
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: They smoked them, they really did. Let's go Fordham here

1442
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: with them.

1443
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Fordham here bounce back.

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01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,600
Speaker 1: In six pm Colgate on the road at Villanova, Villanova's

1445
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: first game.

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01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 3: Dan of the season played, Oh tricky, Yeah, I'm gonn

1447
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Nova here. I feel good about Philly.

1448
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm going.

1449
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 3: Do you see the clip by the way, this is

1450
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 3: just a sidebar yao. Ming's favorite American city is Philadelphia?

1451
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: Is it?

1452
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: Yes?

1453
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: And when asked why, he said, museums and cheese steaks,

1454
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: beautifu Hey thanked. He thanked Katino Mobley for showing him around.

1455
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: What else do you need?

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01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: Right?

1457
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: Katino Mobley and Chief Stakes Ideal.

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: Six pm holy Cross on the Road at New Hampshire.

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going New Hampshire here, going to Shire, I'm going, yeah,

1460
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: going and Crossaders haven't been the same since Bobby Chess

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 3: were left.

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, the Richmond Spiders currently at

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01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: zero to one because they lost the Lehigh Mountain Hosks

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01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: last year in Goodman Stadium. Richmond on the Road at Wafford.

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01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 3: Wafford also oh one, give whatever points you can find

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01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: Richmond Limb from Limb Terriers going.

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01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm going to go with the

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: terriers as well.

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 3: Yep or no. You you picked against the terriers and

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 3: I've been going against the terriers. I'm going spiders all day.

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01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: I hate spiders. I'm going terriers. Dumb. That does it,

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: Boys and girls, Thank you so much for bearing with

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: us here fun episode week two. Someone, I'm ashamed of

1474
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: my preamble, tie.

1475
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: I could have done better. I could have tightened that up.

1476
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about the whole time.

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: I could have worn a shirt that wasn't so loud.

1478
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, it doesn't harm anybody who's listening to the audio.

1479
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: If you are watching the video, you may need some Well,

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01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: now we're driving people to the video. They got to

1481
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: see it. I guess that was not the intention of this,

1482
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: but I thought I was wearing something a little bit

1483
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: different to try and mix it up and inject some

1484
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 1: energy into this. And you've been comparing me to Caeso dip.

1485
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what you need to know. Ty. If I

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 3: could give you any piece of advice, fashion or otherwise,

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 3: it would be look at the stars, Look how they

1488
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: shine for you, Ty? Yeah, and everything you do. Yeah,

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: they were all yellow.

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: On that note for that wonderful man over there, my

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: good friend as always, regardless of what he says about

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01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: my shirt, Dan Rubistein, I love him like a brother.

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in with this show. We hope

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. We hope you going out to verballers

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Speaker 1: dot com see what we have to offer. Get in

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Speaker 1: game where you're playing for the gift card that we

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Speaker 1: You also get access to these episodes without ads, bonus content,

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Speaker 1: discord access. You can vote in the poll, which we're

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Speaker 1: not talking about the poll because the timing this week

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Speaker 1: was we're going to drop that on the social feed

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Speaker 1: on Friday so that people can know where they voted.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get back in the habit of talking about

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Speaker 1: that earlier in the week when all the other polls

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Speaker 1: drop as well. Verballers dot Com One more Time is

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Speaker 1: is that you find us. We'd love to have you

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Speaker 1: with us all season long, and last but certainly not,

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Speaker 1: certainly not least excuse me. You can find us, as

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Speaker 1: always out on any variety of social media channels, where

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Speaker 1: we post funny clips, where we post funny commentary, where

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Speaker 1: we post the links to get to these episodes. If

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason you forget Dan Rubinstein the voice held up,

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you and my friend. Oh I hit

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Speaker 1: the cough button forty four times. I didn't hear it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not watching the video.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, if you are watching the video, you have.

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Speaker 1: Noticed good effort from you, solid effort for that guy

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Speaker 1: over there, my good friend Dan, for myself. Tie enjoy

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Speaker 1: week two. We'll catch you all on Saturday night. Yes,

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Speaker 1: spelltieshare dot com as always fays on peace.

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