Speaker 1: I have to share a quick story, real quick, just
Speaker 1: for the and they were not even the show, but
Speaker 1: this is just warming up. Rob is so nice. We
Speaker 1: have Ralphie and Rocky together, right, guys, they're they're fucking wild.
Speaker 1: They're running around, they're all hyping each other. Best friends there,
Speaker 1: but they're hyped. And I'm over here, I'm like Rocky
Speaker 1: place because they were, they're around. We were trying to
Speaker 1: settle them down. And Rob goes Ralphie and he and
Speaker 1: little Ralfie's this little little frenchie. Rob's seven feet tall.
Speaker 1: He's like, Ralphie, wait, wait Jeels wait, Ralphie. He's like,
Speaker 1: wait up, I got a mean voice in there, Ralphie.
Speaker 1: I was laughing because Rob didn't have a mean enough
Speaker 1: voice to reprimand the dog. That's how nice Robie is.
Speaker 1: He had He was sitting there thinking like, how do
Speaker 1: I make a mean voice?
Speaker 2: But like the dogs know the tone, the dogs tone.
Speaker 3: If I can get that tone, I can finally get
Speaker 3: Ralphie under the wraps and he listens. But if I
Speaker 3: don't have that tone, he just looks at me and
Speaker 3: laughs and just keeps going and doing what he's doing.
Speaker 3: That it doesn't care what any consequences at all in
Speaker 3: the back of his mind.
Speaker 1: No, but it was funny to me that you that's
Speaker 1: how great of a person. You can't even get a
Speaker 1: mean tone. Thank you us, thank you can't get a
Speaker 1: mean tone, which is complete opposite of the episode that
Speaker 1: we're going to do today. Welcome to Dudes on Dudes.
Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Grandkowski, and this show is
Speaker 1: where your favorite dudes getting talked about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 1: And on today's episode, we have a very AFS North
Speaker 1: type of episode.
Speaker 3: All you Hard Knocks fans gear up because this is
Speaker 3: the first time that's going down where they have all
Speaker 3: four teams in the division in season Runkle, what do
Speaker 3: we get into tough guys having hair like that, Like
Speaker 3: does that make you look stronger, faster and bigger? It
Speaker 3: makes you look meaner.
Speaker 1: And we get into these are the kind of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: you want that you dream of? Yeah, because he's gonna
Speaker 1: sit in that pocket, he's going.
Speaker 3: To deliver the book. And also we get into when
Speaker 3: I'm glad that his heyday was before my heyday because
Speaker 3: I probably want to have had.
Speaker 1: Of had a hey day then, like I know, we
Speaker 1: tossed around the word legend.
Speaker 2: Just unbelievable what he has done.
Speaker 3: And to have that courage to go out there and
Speaker 3: represent your community.
Speaker 2: You gotta tip your hat off.
Speaker 3: How easy important for you made it? Really you gotta
Speaker 3: stick around to the end.
Speaker 1: This is a fun episode. AFC Nord Tough Division.
Speaker 3: Let's you can see what it's about. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio Gronk What's
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Speaker 3: Just making sure, just making sure.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're going to talk about the AFC
Speaker 1: North because HBO is releasing this in season hard Knocks
Speaker 1: about the whole AFC North, which I'm pretty excited about.
Speaker 1: What are your first thoughts when you think of the
Speaker 1: AFC North rob.
Speaker 3: A tough division, one of the toughest divisions in all
Speaker 3: of football. I mean, you got the Pittsburgh Steelers, you
Speaker 3: got the Steel Curtain defense, you got the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 3: which have one of the well known defenses of our generation.
Speaker 2: Of our generation that they're tough, hard nos.
Speaker 3: They take absolutely no garbage, and they're they're there to
Speaker 3: make plays and also they're there they'll light you up
Speaker 3: if they have a chance out on the field, So
Speaker 3: you got to always have your heads up or else
Speaker 3: they might take your head off.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just it's straight toughness. If you could throw Cincinnati
Speaker 1: in there too, And when we played them a bunch,
Speaker 1: it was always a one as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, Cleveland was always tough, and that's why they're
Speaker 3: they're known as the dog Pound, the dog Pound in
Speaker 3: Cleveland at their home stadium.
Speaker 2: Man, it really was.
Speaker 3: I mean we lost to Cleveland what my rookie year,
Speaker 3: and they didn't have a good team, but they had
Speaker 3: a tough soob running back in the Pyton hillis Peyton.
Speaker 3: He represented that division like like no other in the
Speaker 3: AFC North. I mean, he just he was running fools
Speaker 3: over that game, running jumping.
Speaker 1: Anytime we played Baltimore, it was always super tough, the
Speaker 1: Steelers fucking tough always. I mean we always won those games.
Speaker 1: We won a lot of those games, but it was
Speaker 1: never easy.
Speaker 2: It was never easy.
Speaker 3: And coach always just stated to us, always repeated himself
Speaker 3: that it's gonna take all four orders to beat these guys.
Speaker 3: And you gotta be a tough football player. You got
Speaker 3: to be mentally tough. In order to win versus anyone
Speaker 3: in the AFC North, and the way to win is
Speaker 3: that you gotta keep pushing, You got to keep grinding,
Speaker 3: and you got to be tougher than them when it
Speaker 3: comes down to it in the fourth quarter and you
Speaker 3: can't make the mistakes and let them make the mistakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt, because it was just tough football.
Speaker 1: You what do you think about them having a hard
Speaker 1: knocks in season?
Speaker 3: So the hard knocks and season, I think it's really
Speaker 3: cool for fans and you know, the way that this
Speaker 3: generation set up now with social media, all these apps,
Speaker 3: you know, and getting insight information on players and getting
Speaker 3: first looks at what's going on. I think it's great
Speaker 3: for the NFL. I think it's great for players to
Speaker 3: get their name out there. I think it's great for
Speaker 3: the teams in their city. Just everything's great about it.
Speaker 3: I would say the only thing that's not great about
Speaker 3: it is if you're just a player and you're a
Speaker 3: low key player. And there's plenty of those players in
Speaker 3: the NFL that just want to go in and do
Speaker 3: their business and don't care about the cameras, don't care
Speaker 3: about the pitchers, don't care about them getting the praise
Speaker 3: that they should be get. They just want to go in,
Speaker 3: do their job, get a paycheck, make sure they do
Speaker 3: their job right. And that's the only problem I have
Speaker 3: with it is that it just gets in the way.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just distraction. It can be, so you can't
Speaker 3: let it be a distraction. I feel like it's really
Speaker 3: not you know, compared to like ten years ago, it
Speaker 3: was more of a distraction because there's only one team
Speaker 3: doing it. Now everyone's doing it, so it's kind of
Speaker 3: the norm. And when it's the norm, it's a less
Speaker 3: of a distraction. When something's not a norm, it's way
Speaker 3: more of a distraction. So but still, like guys like
Speaker 3: you and I, we would kind of take that as
Speaker 3: a distraction, like get the fing cameras out of our face.
Speaker 3: We want to do what we want to do. You know,
Speaker 3: we'll be doing our speaking out on the football field.
Speaker 1: I think it's fucking crazy. I think it's crazy that
Speaker 1: I would not want cameras in seeing how we're forming
Speaker 1: our team. I'm not going to speak for Bill, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he feels that too, like there's no
Speaker 1: way you're getting cameras in there.
Speaker 3: I agree, Well, I'm talking to the business side of football,
Speaker 3: is right, I'm talking on the business side. That's great.
Speaker 3: But you just said I would hate it, and it
Speaker 3: was awesome. That coach, you know, Belichick, never would allow
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks to come in our locker room.
Speaker 2: It would drive all of us crazy.
Speaker 3: What are your favorite moments from Hard Knocks over the years,
Speaker 3: since you've been watching since when probably you know, since
Speaker 3: you were in high school? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I I can remember the early ones, back when like
Speaker 1: Tony Sarrah Gusa and the Ravens, the Brian Billick Ravens
Speaker 1: were on. That was like, I think the first one
Speaker 1: and you had Shannon Sharp and then I always used
Speaker 1: to love another AFC North I used I used to
Speaker 1: love o Cho Cinco what he would call it, say
Speaker 1: the kiss the baby shit?
Speaker 3: All right, you like, remember, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks because of Joe al Jo. Sinko was a dime,
Speaker 3: you know, a diamond, a dime.
Speaker 2: What am I saying?
Speaker 3: Dim dimond?
Speaker 2: There we go us.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think that one works.
Speaker 2: I thought it did, but he was a diamond then
Speaker 2: he was a diamond.
Speaker 1: What about early one? Dola got cut, He got cut
Speaker 1: on hard Knocks. When he with the Cowboys, he did
Speaker 1: thank you the hard Knocks.
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. Now we can always tease dollars.
Speaker 1: I know, what are your favorite hard knocks?
Speaker 3: I would say when I was in high school, the
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals were on hart Knocks, and every single person
Speaker 3: in our high school watched Hard Knocks and it was
Speaker 3: kind of like a full circle moment. I mean, I
Speaker 3: thought it was so cool. What was wild? Hard Knocks
Speaker 3: made it seem like the movies like Friday Night Lights,
Speaker 3: the high school movies where you would watch it and
Speaker 3: then you would like turn your buddy and you're like, bro, man,
Speaker 3: everyone's so fast, everyone's so big, Like I can't compete
Speaker 3: versus those people, Like if I ever get to the NFL,
Speaker 3: there's no way, Like look how good they look like.
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks made it seem like like space creatures were
Speaker 3: coming on the planet Earth and plane in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and everyone was just so big.
Speaker 1: It was like slow motion football by the most elite
Speaker 1: athletes in Like slow motion looks amazing, and that's all
Speaker 1: hard knocks were.
Speaker 3: You slow, like the.
Speaker 1: Spiral down and the balls perfect or like slow motion
Speaker 1: getting off the ball and like hitting two guys hitting
Speaker 1: the sweats coming out. It's just it's very It's like
Speaker 1: you said, it's like a movie.
Speaker 3: And then they would show the one guy in the
Speaker 3: weight room squatting six hundred and fifty pounds and then
Speaker 3: the other guy benching five hundred pounds. I mean, not
Speaker 3: everyone was like that, but they made it seem like
Speaker 3: everyone was like that, and You're like, how am I
Speaker 3: gonna play in the NFL? I ain't. I ain't that strong,
Speaker 3: and I'm never gonna be that strong. But they just
Speaker 3: made it like a movie to where it was just
Speaker 3: so real to watch it was it was it was,
Speaker 3: what's the way word I'm looking for, like very cinematic?
Speaker 1: You know, It's exactly. It was like a movie cinematic.
Speaker 3: Here we go. So the Cincinnati Bengals wrong. I love
Speaker 3: the show, loved watching it. Jonathan Hayes, their tight end coach,
Speaker 3: always stole the show. He always brought the juice, and
Speaker 3: obviously I paid attention to him more throughout the show
Speaker 3: because I was a tight end and I wanted to play.
Speaker 2: In the NFL.
Speaker 3: So a full circle moment, I'm at the University of Arizona.
Speaker 3: I went to the combine, but I didn't really participate
Speaker 3: because I had backs. So I had my pro day.
Speaker 3: So all the teams came out for my pro day
Speaker 3: and who shows up to put me through all the
Speaker 3: drills one on one coach Jonathan Hayes of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was one of the coolest moments
Speaker 3: that the coach that I was watching at Hard Knocks
Speaker 3: with all my buddies in high school, and that's when
Speaker 3: all the shows are the coolest, like Entourage, freaking Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks is when you're in high school, you know. So
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like, I'm one of the coolest guys ever
Speaker 3: at my pro day because of this situation. He put
Speaker 3: me through a hell of a workout too.
Speaker 2: Man, I almost need to kill it. I killed it.
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful pro day very well. Uh no,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ended up passing on me. Je ended up
Speaker 3: passing on me.
Speaker 2: So got the story the way.
Speaker 3: That not a happy ending, but it truly was a
Speaker 3: happy ending because I I got passed on. I went
Speaker 3: to the New England Patriots. Happened to me, Baby, let's go.
Speaker 3: So let's go to AFC North Jules, who we got
Speaker 3: enough talking about hard knocks. Us watching it when we
Speaker 3: were in high school, we never were on it because
Speaker 3: we didn't care about hot narks. We cared about taking
Speaker 3: care of our business out on the field, and that
Speaker 3: was gonna speak for us. That was our talking, and
Speaker 3: that was the product that we had, was put the
Speaker 3: work in and show it on Sundays. It was actually
Speaker 3: because Coach Balichick said no us. We would have probably
Speaker 3: loved to be honest, it would be fun. No, all right,
Speaker 3: nice laugh, all right? Who We got AFC North the
Speaker 3: first hour, going tough, tough division, tough defenses, and we
Speaker 3: just owned them all because we're tough players.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: We didn't own them though. It was war for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Troy polu Malu, greatest hair, Troy
Speaker 1: pola Malu, Tasmanian. What I gotta say, start the clock.
Speaker 2: On Troy Polamalu.
Speaker 3: Troy polam Malo, a five ten, two hundred pounds safety,
Speaker 3: spent his entire NFL career with the Pittsburgh Steelers after
Speaker 3: being drafted sixteenth overall in the two thousand three NFL draft.
Speaker 3: I was born in nineteen eighty nine, so I was
Speaker 3: fourteen years old when he was drafted into the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's just a fun fact out there, so you were
Speaker 3: probably at sixteen seventeen. He was known for his explosive style,
Speaker 3: nos for the ball, uncanny instincts, and trademark flowing hair.
Speaker 3: He finished his career with thirty two interceptions, seven hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty three tackles, and three defensive touchdowns. He was
Speaker 3: an eight time Pro bowler, two times Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 3: and won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in
Speaker 3: two thousand and ten. Wow, that was my rookie season,
Speaker 3: solidifying his status as one of the most versatile and
Speaker 3: disruptive safeties in the game. He was named to the
Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame in twenty twenty. Well, let
Speaker 3: me tell you this, Jewels, he was a little another
Speaker 3: fun fact in twenty ten when he was All Pro
Speaker 3: safety and I was a rookie. I scored three toutsounds
Speaker 3: versus that defense. I scored three touchsounds versus and All
Speaker 3: Pro safety that year in two thousand. No NFL Defensive
Speaker 3: Player of the Year in two thousand ten. It necessarily
Speaker 3: wasn't on him. He wasn't covering me, but still he
Speaker 3: was still on the defensive side. Of the ball and
Speaker 3: I forgot he was the defensive player of the Year
Speaker 3: too in twenty ten. Maniac love him the Tasmanian Devil.
Speaker 1: He really is. I mean I grew up in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, so there was a lot of Polynesian people
Speaker 1: in my communities. Like my high school football team was
Speaker 1: like probably sixty percent Polynesian, either Samoan or Tongan or Hawaiian.
Speaker 1: Anytime there was a like a like a Polynesian football
Speaker 1: player that was a stud in our circles, they were
Speaker 1: like gods. Like it was when I was real young.
Speaker 1: It was Junior Seau and then it became Troy Paulamalu,
Speaker 1: who like he was like the god of all gods
Speaker 1: for all these dudes that like he was just a
Speaker 1: fucking maniac on the field, he was like the nicest dude.
Speaker 1: He used to hit guys and do little prayers afterwards
Speaker 1: because he was so nice.
Speaker 3: Sould.
Speaker 1: I just remember always loving this guy because of all
Speaker 1: the Polly's in my neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Did he ever hit you and then like just kind
Speaker 3: of like prayed over you, Julian Has that never happened,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 1: I remember I had to block him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: And I did catch like a ghost route on him once,
Speaker 1: but then he like he leveraged me out of bounds.
Speaker 1: He'd ever blew me up or anything. He was one
Speaker 1: of those once again in that like Cam Chancellor category
Speaker 1: where he's like a polite competitor. He never really talked shit.
Speaker 1: He was he was kind of all about his business,
Speaker 1: and like, that's how I felt when I played against.
Speaker 3: And those are the guys you don't want to tick
Speaker 3: off either. Never mean, they're already so good and so
Speaker 3: fierce playing on the field, but they're also so nice.
Speaker 3: So imagine you just tick them off. You you bring
Speaker 3: him to that next level where they're not nice anymore.
Speaker 3: Imagine just their amplify, amplifying this, there's amplifying nous. Yes,
Speaker 3: amplifying this thiss there we go. Baby. Just imagine how
Speaker 3: much more that would be, how much more of those
Speaker 3: hits would hurt if you tick them off? What I
Speaker 3: the bottom He was a ball hawk bro out on
Speaker 3: the field, always around the ball, no matter what the
Speaker 3: situation was.
Speaker 2: He was a deep safety.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you he was in the backfield
Speaker 3: more than he was back in his own backfield. On
Speaker 3: the dee from the side of the ball, making sacks,
Speaker 3: making tackles for losses, and well I really loved the
Speaker 3: bottom too.
Speaker 2: Just knew how to jump the snap. Yeah, by the time,
Speaker 2: better than anyone.
Speaker 3: He time snaps.
Speaker 1: Like there's like probably like five six plays of him
Speaker 1: jumping over the line of scrimmage on like a fourth
Speaker 1: and one and grabbing the quarterback and getting a head
Speaker 1: start for the QB sneak like. He was just a
Speaker 1: guy that knew the football, always around the football, blew
Speaker 1: up screens, he was playing in the box always, he
Speaker 1: was tough in the run game. He was a great blitzer.
Speaker 1: I would say he's a top five, top three blitzer
Speaker 1: blitzing safety of all time.
Speaker 3: Never, you know, rarely missed a tackle. Do you think
Speaker 3: he could have played receiver because just the way that
Speaker 3: he was such a ballhawk and the you know, the
Speaker 3: ball skill that he possessed.
Speaker 1: Probably because he you know, he would have been a
Speaker 1: great slot you know, he knows coverage and those guys.
Speaker 1: He's very instinctive with space in the field. He always
Speaker 1: made tough catches. It's it's different when the ball's coming
Speaker 1: to you. But you know, who are the other top
Speaker 1: blitzers you.
Speaker 3: Think Jamal Adams was a really good blitzer and you
Speaker 3: know a more a more recent guy who he was vicious,
Speaker 3: he was strong, he was a bulldozer coming through the middle.
Speaker 3: He touched me out the club a few times. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw that. I was right there, remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean but you you you didn't back down, dude,
Speaker 3: And he was a young buck.
Speaker 2: You were hurting.
Speaker 3: I remember, you were hurting, but you still gave it
Speaker 3: to him. He could come in. He had himself out
Speaker 3: the play.
Speaker 2: He would he would himself out.
Speaker 1: He would literally blow me up, Like I go in
Speaker 1: to get the force. He would blow me up. He
Speaker 1: would run for fifteen right by him, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what makes Troy Polo Malu so great is
Speaker 3: that he would make those guesses and he would blow
Speaker 3: up the play, but he's also making the play. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's not missing, and if he does miss, he's forcing
Speaker 3: the play to go back inside, or the to go
Speaker 3: outside or wherever he needs it to go. So then
Speaker 3: his teammates can make the play because of what he did,
Speaker 3: the force that that play to go where it was going.
Speaker 3: Just a wizard with the knowledge of the game. Unbelievable
Speaker 3: dude in coverage.
Speaker 1: These safeties, especially in this division AFC North, they were
Speaker 1: like fun football players to watch. When you watched Troy
Speaker 1: Paulamalu or like an Ed Reid or the you know,
Speaker 1: these are the guys that we played against and that
Speaker 1: are from our generations, so we know these guys. But
Speaker 1: you could say that about like the Ronnie lots of
Speaker 1: the back days, the at Wells, the Lynches, when you
Speaker 1: always had great safety like play, it was like fun
Speaker 1: guys to watch interceptions, big hits, you know, fumble recoveries.
Speaker 1: He just did it all and he was like a
Speaker 1: heartbeat a lot of those great defenses Pittsburgh Steelers had.
Speaker 3: I went to high school, actually my senior year in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I'm All Pro or All State whatever defensive ends. So
Speaker 3: I get invited to this, you know, Pittsburgh galla off
Speaker 3: for high school football athletes. And then who's there, Troy
Speaker 3: polam Malo. Who's up on the stage. It's a dinner.
Speaker 3: Everyone's recognized, and then Troy Polamalu gives a speech and
Speaker 3: unbelievable speech. What a guy, What a guy? About faith,
Speaker 3: about doing the right thing. All the good stuff gets
Speaker 3: around of applause. Absolutely loved in Pittsburgh. This guy I
Speaker 3: loved him. Who didn't love even when I was facing him,
Speaker 3: I loved him. I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there though,
Speaker 3: just like looking at the best safety in the game,
Speaker 3: one of the best safeties in the game. And I'm
Speaker 3: in high school and I'm sitting there and he's giving
Speaker 3: the speech round of applause, and I just literally want
Speaker 3: to go up to him and tell him, Hey, I'm
Speaker 3: Rob Gronkowski. I'll be seeing you in a couple of years.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say that to him.
Speaker 1: How does hair look?
Speaker 3: It was good, looks exactly how it was every single
Speaker 3: day that he was playing all the way to this day.
Speaker 3: Great hair, unbelievable. So just full circle moment. It was
Speaker 3: just unbelievable. I set it to a couple buddies, I'm
Speaker 3: going to face Troy polamlo and then four you years later,
Speaker 3: I'm facing Troy polam Malu man. So I just thought
Speaker 3: that was a cool moment, just kind of put it
Speaker 3: in the perspective, kind of manifesting this guy who's a legend,
Speaker 3: who's speaking to me when I was in high school,
Speaker 3: that I'm going to go over some one day and
Speaker 3: it happened, and it was really cool because then I
Speaker 3: did over. So can you ask me what happened on
Speaker 3: a play when I went versus What did you? So?
Speaker 1: What did you do in your rookie year when you
Speaker 1: played him?
Speaker 3: Oh? It was my it was well, I scored three
Speaker 3: touchdowns versus Steelers my rookie year. But it wasn't versus
Speaker 3: Troy Polamalu. The play I'm talking about was my second
Speaker 3: year in the NFL. I did an in cut, caught
Speaker 3: the ball, Troy Polamlo went to tackle. He jumped on
Speaker 3: my back and I brought him for a ride for
Speaker 3: five freaking yards. Troy polam Malu went for a ride.
Speaker 3: It was like the Tom Brady going for a win
Speaker 3: that touchdown, but Troy palam Malo trying to tackle me.
Speaker 3: I got an extra five six yards and I'm still
Speaker 3: waiting for him to, you know, give me that change
Speaker 3: for the ride. You know when you put the quarter in? Yeah,
Speaker 3: what do you change where the horse?
Speaker 2: He goes?
Speaker 3: Get up, getting up, porsy like he was ge up,
Speaker 3: giddy up, giddy up orsy. Anybody stuck rock He's back.
Speaker 3: He played. I don't think he said anything.
Speaker 2: He played really hard.
Speaker 1: Maybe he he so he inspired you with that speech
Speaker 1: to manifest yourself to go. While he was saying that speech,
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm gonna go against him one day, hopefully.
Speaker 2: Not hopefully I was going to go against someone that. Wow, Joes,
Speaker 2: I know, I.
Speaker 3: Know you're a guy about looks and you know, scruffing
Speaker 3: up your beard and making sure you got the right
Speaker 3: jel to put your hair exactly where it needs to
Speaker 3: be placed. But what do you think about the greatest
Speaker 3: hair in the game, Troy polam ALUs.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had best hair anyone that was on
Speaker 1: the head and shoulders. He been on head and shoulders
Speaker 1: commercials for probably about fifteen years. I swear, I mean
Speaker 1: him and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: But I got another question.
Speaker 3: Having hair like that, like Troy hat hair, does that
Speaker 3: make you look stronger, faster and bigger.
Speaker 1: It makes you look meaner? It does it makes you
Speaker 1: look like a fucking warrior? Bro he I could just
Speaker 1: see him doing the goddamn hakka when I see that
Speaker 1: hair coming at the back helmet.
Speaker 2: And talking about Polynesians as well.
Speaker 3: The hakka there isn't just me, but are all Polynesians
Speaker 3: just strong as hack? Right out of the wound, like
Speaker 3: they come out like they don't even have to work out,
Speaker 3: Like they'll go up. They do work out, they do,
Speaker 3: but they don't even have to and they'll just go
Speaker 3: up and they'll toss up four hundred on the bench
Speaker 3: press like it's nothing. You can't move Polynesians. Man, they're
Speaker 3: so strong and they're so they got so much space
Speaker 3: to the ground. Yeah, like they're attached, like their legs
Speaker 3: are in the ground.
Speaker 2: It feels like when you try to block.
Speaker 1: Them via vida vea, he's fucking just.
Speaker 2: Massive, three hundred and sixty pounds. You can't move that guy.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Massive.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, they're they're just strong humans. When I had
Speaker 1: lared Hamilton when he talked about the Polynesians and stuff,
Speaker 1: he's Hawaiian and stuff, like they're just cool people. They're
Speaker 1: very like traditioned and stuff about their traditions.
Speaker 3: Time Troy Polamalu, What kind of dude is Troy? Is
Speaker 3: he just did a freak dog whizz or dude's dude?
Speaker 3: Oh man, he can hit what I mean, he's definitely
Speaker 3: a whiz. I mean the knowledge of the dog in
Speaker 3: order to be in the backfield basically half of the plays.
Speaker 3: To make the plays and be able to time up
Speaker 3: the snap count and be able to jump the snap count.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to know the game to another level.
Speaker 3: And also to be able to have that coverage that
Speaker 3: he has, the range in zone was just phenomenal.
Speaker 2: You got to you gotta be smart.
Speaker 1: When Yeah, I agree with you. He's definitely a whiz
Speaker 1: to me as well. The amount of screen plays that
Speaker 1: he blew up just instinctively reading the offensive lineman. You know,
Speaker 1: like you watch his highlight film. He blew up so
Speaker 1: many screens, pick screens. He also had great zone coverages.
Speaker 1: Like you said, he just felt like he was everywhere
Speaker 1: on the field and that's that's like very innovative and
Speaker 1: he's like just a wizard with how he was around.
Speaker 3: Man, I agree Randy. One two three whiz stamp stamp,
Speaker 3: whiz whiz. All right, it's out there. It's in the mailbox.
Speaker 3: There's a stamp like all over this piece of mail.
Speaker 3: But it's well known that he's a whiz. Okay, stand
Speaker 3: you can't get off. It's like when it's on your skin,
Speaker 3: just under the shot when you go to the bar,
Speaker 3: just washing it off.
Speaker 2: Like fifty times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you come home and that ink, you're like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to show my mind, mouse out and you're
Speaker 3: just under the sink for ten minutes and.
Speaker 1: Then you have red marks and she sees like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what were you scrubbing on your your poem or what
Speaker 1: were you scrubbing on.
Speaker 2: Or is that a hickey?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, we'll.
Speaker 1: Be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 2: Who we got brow?
Speaker 3: Put him up his pocket passers in the game right
Speaker 3: now ten minutes. Joe Joey B fucking cool to say
Speaker 3: I have to say about Joey. Let's say I say
Speaker 3: about Joe Burrow. Sending at six four and weighing two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds two hundred and fifteen two hundred
Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds, fuck was drafted number one overall in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and just five seasons he's made his mark.
Speaker 3: Is one of the league's premier young quarterbacks, with three
Speaker 3: trips to the playoffs and a Super Bowl appearance. Raised
Speaker 3: in Ohio, his college football journey took him from Ohio
Speaker 3: State to LSU, where he won the Heisman Trophy in
Speaker 3: the National Championship. Having one of the greatest seasons in
Speaker 3: college football history. Actually, that's the first time I've ever
Speaker 3: heard about Joe Burrow or seen him play, or just
Speaker 3: learned anything about him was the National Championship game when
Speaker 3: he was at LSU and I literally was sitting there like,
Speaker 3: this guy is Tom Brady of college football and just
Speaker 3: the first game I've seen him play, actually in the
Speaker 3: first half, just watching him go. But like back to this,
Speaker 3: he's not only recognized as an emerging face in the league,
Speaker 3: but also for his charitable work throughout his home state
Speaker 3: of Ohio. Jules, what is the first thing you think
Speaker 3: of when you hear the name Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: Joe Cool? First team comes, Mike Kids Cool. We all,
Speaker 1: I think we were all watching those those National Championship
Speaker 1: year games in like the meal rooms before games with
Speaker 1: all of our teammates. You remember watching those and like
Speaker 1: you'd watch these LSU teams and yeah, they had a
Speaker 1: lot of great players, but he was just dice in
Speaker 1: the fulls. I think he beat like every record you
Speaker 1: could beat, passing, throwing yards, this, that in college. So
Speaker 1: when he came in, it was like, who's this kid
Speaker 1: gonna be? Like he had a stand, he had he
Speaker 1: played himself into some craziness, like this guy, who is
Speaker 1: this kid? Then he came in, he played, He went
Speaker 1: to damn Super Bowl the Cincinnati Bengals like two years
Speaker 1: into his career, which was crazy. Like he's just he's
Speaker 1: backed shit up. He's always been the guy and he's
Speaker 1: backed it up. I think he's just a calm, cool
Speaker 1: collec guy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I love his game. I love watching him play climbs
Speaker 1: the pocket like as a receiver. These are the kind
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks you want, that you dream of. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's gonna sit in that pocket, He's gonna find you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna deliver the ball. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: guys that are run it because you get the ball.
Speaker 1: I love the way he just slides up in that
Speaker 1: pocket every time. He's just got such great pocket presence.
Speaker 1: And that's why I loved him so much when I
Speaker 1: watched him in the National Championship Game, because that's what
Speaker 1: he was showing.
Speaker 2: And that's what Tom does as well.
Speaker 3: The best pocket passers in history actually probably the best,
Speaker 3: and that's what makes him the greatest quarterback for all
Speaker 3: the time. It's not like he was running around because
Speaker 3: he was such a great pocket presence and he would
Speaker 3: slide right up, and he just kept delivering that ball
Speaker 3: right on the money, and he was he was reading
Speaker 3: the whole entire field and every guy was covered, but
Speaker 3: he stayed so cool with in the National Championship game,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, he just looked to
Speaker 3: his left poop and just dish it off to the
Speaker 3: running back. He would get ten and he would just
Speaker 3: always know who to go to find the guy that's open,
Speaker 3: never force the ball. And if he does force the ball,
Speaker 3: he's going to force it in a pocket to where
Speaker 3: only his receiver can get it and not the defenders.
Speaker 3: And that's what makes this guy so great at the
Speaker 3: quarterback position. No ansiffs or busts up butts about it, Jules,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: And that's like when when you say pocket presence, when
Speaker 1: when you watch a guy like who has good pocket presence,
Speaker 1: for example, Brady, it's a it's when he can step
Speaker 1: up or slide to the right while he's keeping his
Speaker 1: eyes down the field to buy himself half a second
Speaker 1: to deliver the football. Like it's not like it's rat athletic,
Speaker 1: but it's like a sixth sense where you know where
Speaker 1: to go to stay in the pocket. So the guy
Speaker 1: running the hump goes over you. You know, the pocket pressure.
Speaker 1: The guard comes this way, you step this way, you
Speaker 1: go to your left a little, and it's like a
Speaker 1: sixth sense. And you see that with Joe Burrow. There
Speaker 1: are so many third downs where he steps up, knows
Speaker 1: where his last read is, finds that Incut delivers a
Speaker 1: good ball. You know, I'm really sad about their team
Speaker 1: right now because they're really good. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: better than what they're doing. But he's a stud.
Speaker 3: And when you have a quarterback like that, I can
Speaker 3: step up in the pocket and stay in the pocket
Speaker 3: as well, you know, extend the time in the pocket
Speaker 3: because he just got the great pocket present. This is
Speaker 3: when you actually as a receiver, you cannot cut your
Speaker 3: bouts short. No, you have to get all your depth
Speaker 3: that you need to get. Say you got a twelve
Speaker 3: yard Incut, you have to get the twelve yards because
Speaker 3: it's all about timing with this guy. And this timing
Speaker 3: goes from practice to a game because when you have
Speaker 3: a pocket present's quarterback, it's not street ball. It's real football,
Speaker 3: and it's the hardest football to defend when you got
Speaker 3: a quarterback like this. So get your depth in the
Speaker 3: in the receiving game, if you're a wide receiver or
Speaker 3: a tight end, and do all the little details that
Speaker 3: you need to do because that ball is going to
Speaker 3: come eventually. You don't know when, but it's gonna come.
Speaker 3: And if you're the fifth read, always be ready for
Speaker 3: it because if all four reads are covered, it's going
Speaker 3: to the fifth read every single time.
Speaker 1: Depth in spacing is only really important on zone man coverage.
Speaker 3: You can break your depth.
Speaker 2: And yeah, man coverage.
Speaker 1: What do you think about when you hear he's a
Speaker 1: coach's son, What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: Coach's son means like kind of like a coach's pet.
Speaker 3: But like I don't see that with Joey b Like
Speaker 3: that's kind of.
Speaker 1: What he was say the son of a coach?
Speaker 2: Is he is?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think his dad. His dad's a big coaching It's.
Speaker 2: It's literal, he's a coach.
Speaker 3: But you're talking about him being with the Bengals like
Speaker 3: he's a coach's son.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's literally.
Speaker 3: A coach all right.
Speaker 1: Well then, so like in the scouting report, if he's
Speaker 1: a son of the coach, is that a good thing?
Speaker 1: Is that that means he's smart, loves ball, round ball.
Speaker 3: You know it exists in the family. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a trade that that's a pass down. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: good to know that family members. The tradition of football
Speaker 3: exists in the family. Yeah, that means you got toughness,
Speaker 3: that means you got grit. And if one family member
Speaker 3: in the decade and then there's another family member, that
Speaker 3: means that's a football family and that's who you want
Speaker 3: on your team.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Like if I have a kid, I mean they hear
Speaker 3: gronk Is, you know, Mini grok Is on their team
Speaker 3: that you want. That same with Jules. Oh we got
Speaker 3: little Julian Edelman coming. If you have a boy, but
Speaker 3: eventually a football team, maybe your daughter will be the
Speaker 3: first kicker, maybe playing football ever know, yeah you never know.
Speaker 3: She played soccer right now, so hopefully she is the first.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna be like we got.
Speaker 2: An element out of the team.
Speaker 3: This is amazing, Like it's just passed down, Like it's
Speaker 3: just a tradition of just football.
Speaker 2: Now, just passed down football.
Speaker 1: You gonna get her a flag and you ever meet
Speaker 1: Joe Joe cool I have we did it. We didn't
Speaker 1: Nerve Shoot Together, Nerve Shoot Okay, or Super Bowl week
Speaker 1: before he was about to get drafted. It's him McCaffrey
Speaker 1: Adams from from from the Jets at the time, the
Speaker 1: safety we talked about earlier and we did this content.
Speaker 1: He was a cool kid. He just got a he's
Speaker 1: got a confidence look about him. He's just confident, you know.
Speaker 1: It's not cocky. It's just like we had him do
Speaker 1: a scene where he had to throw a football, like
Speaker 1: one of those little nerve footballs, and the dude like
Speaker 1: threw it over the house and like walked off, and
Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, that's pretty fucking cool. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not even trying to be cool, but he is.
Speaker 1: He's uh, just comes naturally. It just comes natural.
Speaker 3: You ever meet him, yes, one time and it was
Speaker 3: actually this year. So we got to go way back
Speaker 3: a little bit, like when Malcolm Brown was drafted to
Speaker 3: the Patriots, like whatever, how many years ago?
Speaker 2: That was what.
Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen, our first round picked, he tackle out of Texas.
Speaker 3: I got a text message that night, the knight of
Speaker 3: the draft, and it was like, hey, Rabbits Malcolm Brown,
Speaker 3: Like pleasure to be on your team. I can't wait
Speaker 3: to get back to work in the football field, you know,
Speaker 3: and just to honor to be your teammate. It was
Speaker 3: something along those lines, and I wrote back like, man,
Speaker 3: you know, great to have you on and that Eventually
Speaker 3: that night called the number and it was it was
Speaker 3: not Malcolm Brown. Well, I got duped. It was just
Speaker 3: a random fan and they duped me to answer back
Speaker 3: and saying it was Malcolm Brown. So my phone number
Speaker 3: got passed around somehow, some way, and I got duped.
Speaker 3: Like I got got as Marshaun Lynch would say in
Speaker 3: his Black Guys, I got got all right, I got
Speaker 3: got so now fast forward. I was like, I ain't
Speaker 3: ever gonna let that shit happen to me ever again.
Speaker 3: I ain't answering random numbers, Like if someone has my number,
Speaker 3: it's because I know they have my number something. That's
Speaker 3: my official rule from here on out. After I retired
Speaker 3: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, my second stint in the NFL,
Speaker 3: they're like, everyone's still trying to get me to play,
Speaker 3: you know, ask me questions in the media, and I
Speaker 3: had to do some media rounds. You're like, yo, who
Speaker 3: is the quarterback that you would love to play with
Speaker 3: you know to this day, and era like playing right now,
Speaker 3: and it can't be Brady obviously. I'm like, obviously, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna pick Brady. I'm like Joe Burrow, but he
Speaker 3: because he reminds me of Brady, and I just love
Speaker 3: the way that he presents himself in the pocket, went everywhere,
Speaker 3: went everywhere, And I retired that year and then I
Speaker 3: get a text message, Yo, Gronk, what's up man? I
Speaker 3: saw I saw you talking about me in the media.
Speaker 3: It's Joe Burrow, like, I would love for you if
Speaker 3: you came to the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like.
Speaker 3: I ain't getting what. I'm like, I ain't getting God again,
Speaker 3: like this this is nuts, Like I ain't falling for
Speaker 3: this ship, Like I ain't gonna answer. I thought it
Speaker 3: was cool as shit, though, I was like, this would
Speaker 3: be cool as hell if this is Joe Burrow trying
Speaker 3: to recruit me to go to the Bengals. But also
Speaker 3: at the same time, he's got to know I'm tapped out.
Speaker 3: He does not want me on that team, but he
Speaker 3: thinks he does because of my history. But when I'm
Speaker 3: tapped out and I know I'm not playing football anymore.
Speaker 3: You don't want me Julis. Yeah, so I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you that just you know myself naive. I mean, you do,
Speaker 3: but you do. I would have still been good. He
Speaker 3: still would have been even when you're covered, you're not covered.
Speaker 3: I'm at the White Party this year, shout out to
Speaker 3: Michael Rubin having the White Party, and I go up
Speaker 3: to him. I walk right by and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: what up, Joe. You know, nice to meet you. It
Speaker 3: was the first time I've ever met him. And then
Speaker 3: like within like ten seconds, he's like, yo, you like
Speaker 3: something along the line like yo, you never responded to me,
Speaker 3: and like I knew exactly what he was talking about.
Speaker 3: And I was like, no freaking way that that was
Speaker 3: actually you. Bro. He's like, yeah, I texted you like
Speaker 3: after you said like that you wanted to play with
Speaker 3: me in the media. I wanted you to come to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: And I was like, bro, I never thought in a
Speaker 3: million years that was you.
Speaker 2: Bro. I was like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I apologize man, because I loved Joe b yeah, and
Speaker 3: because of Malcolm Brown text message because someone got me.
Speaker 3: So I was just at that time, I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry bro, I love your game, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you don't want me. You didn't want me anyway, So
Speaker 3: it was a good thing I didn't answer. I turned
Speaker 3: into that. So in that situation, just take a guess,
Speaker 3: Just go with your heart, and if.
Speaker 2: You truly believe who's touching you at that.
Speaker 3: Moment, you should have faced if you don't know the
Speaker 3: number time.
Speaker 1: What kind of dude is Joe Burrow?
Speaker 2: That's easy, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's kind of a dude's dude for sure.
Speaker 4: He is too cool. You can't dude's do when you're
Speaker 4: too now, when you're too cool. He's got some dog,
Speaker 4: you know he does. He's got some wings in them.
Speaker 4: But I think he's just a stud.
Speaker 3: He is at That's what I was going with. I'm
Speaker 3: not even going to argue with that. The dog that
Speaker 3: I saw in him was after National Championship game when
Speaker 3: he smoked that cigar and just sat there and like
Speaker 3: did those interviews or whatever and took a couple of
Speaker 3: pictures with the cigar in his mouth. That was dog
Speaker 3: like for sure, But it's also he's steadily enough to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 1: They took back and everything he had a little Jerry,
Speaker 1: He's got the little he got the Superman curl, He's
Speaker 1: got the Superman a little smooth hey, right out the
Speaker 1: frosted tips.
Speaker 3: I mean, are you jealous of his Superman hair?
Speaker 2: Look? Hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell you kind of got that going a little bit. No,
Speaker 3: but not to his level.
Speaker 1: No, he's like, I got this straight ass Taylor ware. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, he's too cool. He's definitely stamp it.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 1: Let's get on Ed Rear.
Speaker 3: Coach Balichick's favorite defensive player besides, who's that guy from
Speaker 3: the New York Giants Jewels that he loves as.
Speaker 1: Well, Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor always gets a hard on for Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3: But he had another fall. He got about like three
Speaker 3: quarterschob for Ed Reed.
Speaker 1: We used to call Ed Reed Edard Belichick. So let's
Speaker 1: see what AI asked to say.
Speaker 3: Well, you couldn't blame coach Balichick because Red was was
Speaker 3: a baller. He was a ball or athletic.
Speaker 2: All right, start the clock.
Speaker 3: Ed Reid standing at five foot eleven and weighing two
Speaker 3: hundred five pounds at replay safety for the Baltimore Ravens,
Speaker 3: Houston Texans, and New York Jets. The Jets when he
Speaker 3: played for ye late late twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: They must have been one season.
Speaker 3: One season. Drafted twenty fourth overall, he just probably wanted that,
Speaker 3: you know, final check, because why would he go to
Speaker 3: the Jets in twenty thirteen?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 3: Drafted twenty fourth overall in two thousand and two out
Speaker 3: of the Universe of Miami. He was known for his
Speaker 3: high football IQ, play making, abillity, and unmatched leadership. He
Speaker 3: was a game changer, finishing his career with sixty four interceptions,
Speaker 3: fifteen one hundred and ninety interception return yards cool and
Speaker 3: seven defensive touchdowns. He was a nine time Pro Bowler,
Speaker 3: two thousand and four NFL Defense Player of the Year,
Speaker 3: and is an all time NFL leader in interception return yards.
Speaker 3: I was going to say that right when I heard
Speaker 3: that number as well, I was like, that has to
Speaker 3: be an all time record. I ran, No, one must
Speaker 3: be close. He played his entire career with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait say ai hey A, you just said
Speaker 3: he played for three teams. In the first sentence and
Speaker 3: now the last sentence. He played his entire career with
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens that ain't true and help bring them
Speaker 3: their second Super Bowl victory with a win over the
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and Super Bowl forty seven. Now, he
Speaker 3: played for three teams, Houston Texans and the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: But he had his best you know, career years obviously
Speaker 3: with the Baltimore Raasons, then just finished off with the
Speaker 3: with the irrelevant years didn't matter. He's definitely a Baltimore
Speaker 3: Raven for life, Miami Hurricane for player for life.
Speaker 2: The U, I mean he's known.
Speaker 3: He put the he helped put the U on the
Speaker 3: map and also helped, you know, put that defense of
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens on the map as well. This is
Speaker 3: why Lewis the Ray Lewis. I mean, that's why they
Speaker 3: were known as the toughest defense in in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis Ed Reid And what's his yeah, Tiz Drouse.
Speaker 2: Oh loading nada man, that dude, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: He's like Vita vea basic three hundred and sixty pounds,
Speaker 3: just massive, blows up holes you can't move them. But
Speaker 3: what's the first thing you think of about Ed Reid
Speaker 3: when you hear his name, Jules?
Speaker 1: First thing I think of is cover for red area.
Speaker 3: Him blowing me up.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he.
Speaker 3: Blew me up in that. Remember when you played ther first.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh remember that we were playing there? Uh he oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he lit me up.
Speaker 2: But you got right back up though I did.
Speaker 3: We ended up scoring you. A tough s o b Jules,
Speaker 3: But that nah, he tough son of a gun. He
Speaker 3: was just the.
Speaker 1: First thing, like he was just everywhere, like what's that one?
Speaker 1: There's that one thing. Two thirds of the earth is
Speaker 1: covered by water, the other third is covered by Ed Reid.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 3: That is what I think of when I think of
Speaker 3: Ed Reid.
Speaker 1: Got to compete against him from a very young age
Speaker 1: at my rookie year, and that's when we were going.
Speaker 1: They were coming and beating us in Foxborough. We were
Speaker 1: battling them in the AFC Championship. You remember those early
Speaker 1: years that we battled him. That was like our Denver
Speaker 1: in the back of our our career where we were
Speaker 1: going playing the toughest, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: just was always a battle and Ed Reid was just
Speaker 1: a very predictable dude to try to get a beat on.
Speaker 3: He baited QBS in the mistakes all the time, all
Speaker 3: the time, all the time you ever meet him.
Speaker 2: I never met ed Reid.
Speaker 3: No, I never have man, And it was good because
Speaker 3: I really never met him on the field either, which
Speaker 3: is a good thing. I played my rookie year, but
Speaker 3: I really didn't play that much versus Baltimore Ravens my
Speaker 3: rookie year, probably like twenty thirty plays. I never really
Speaker 3: had a chance to match up with him, and then
Speaker 3: he was kind of onto the next teams, like those
Speaker 3: irrelevant years on those teams of just not really playing
Speaker 3: Veru some But I just remember him in the heyday though,
Speaker 3: which was good. I'm glad that his heyday was before
Speaker 3: my heyday because I probably wouldn't have have had a
Speaker 3: heyday then if there's had Reed still in his hey
Speaker 3: day when I was there. But just what I really
Speaker 3: loved about him.
Speaker 2: Was just his range.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, he was a guesser and he baited
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and the mistakes, but also he bade him in
Speaker 3: the mistakes and then have that range to cover that
Speaker 3: mistake that the quarterback is making, Yeah, get you to
Speaker 3: throw that deep ball and act like he was out
Speaker 3: of coverage. But he was so fast and athletic. He
Speaker 3: would go and get that deep ball and make that interception.
Speaker 3: You want to know how good a Reid was, how jewels,
Speaker 3: how good he was. What did Tom have to do
Speaker 3: in the playoffs in twenty eleven, in that AFC Championship game.
Speaker 3: What did he have to do?
Speaker 2: Because that Reid was.
Speaker 3: Just that guy.
Speaker 1: I remember he used to have to put in his
Speaker 1: on his wristband because you know, for extended plays sometimes
Speaker 1: if you had to check with me, you'd have a
Speaker 1: lengthy verbiage thing, so we put it on there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you he had the reminder that said fine
Speaker 1: number twenty because he was just that big of a
Speaker 1: focal point of that defense he was, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how much.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just fine number twenty.
Speaker 3: It was fine number twenty on every play every locate
Speaker 3: him and throw the ball the other way.
Speaker 2: It didn't say throw the ball any way.
Speaker 1: But you gotta find him.
Speaker 3: Yep, you gotta find him. You gotta know where he is.
Speaker 3: You got a base to playoff of him. You gotta
Speaker 3: alert it, you gotta alert all. When Tom's doing that,
Speaker 3: that means he doesn't like where twenty.
Speaker 1: Is exactly h without a doubt, And I remember plays
Speaker 1: where Tommy used to talk about, you know, he'd watch
Speaker 1: ed Reid and ed Reid would be on the ground
Speaker 1: and he's got like the deep third and he'd be
Speaker 1: on the ground in the box, lying on the ground
Speaker 1: like a goddamn lion, and then get up and sprint
Speaker 1: back there and go pick a ball. Like that's kind
Speaker 1: of instinct that he had. But what I loved about
Speaker 1: Ray also because early on my career I was a
Speaker 1: return I was a special teamer, and whenever we played
Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens, on all units, he was a
Speaker 1: fucking problem on our punt return or our punt team.
Speaker 1: He had the up and under on the field goal block.
Speaker 1: He had the up and under like he used to
Speaker 1: block kicks, scoop scores, He returned kicks for touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: just was an all around fucking unbelievable football player that
Speaker 1: young football players need to watch and not try to emulate,
Speaker 1: because not everyone can be ed Reid. Not everyone can
Speaker 1: do that, but like understand that, like this dude's like
Speaker 1: a freak.
Speaker 3: What would you say is the better safety between the
Speaker 3: two ultimate safeties in the AFC North Troy Polamalu or
Speaker 3: Aed Reed.
Speaker 1: That's so hard. They're different players. I think of Ed
Speaker 1: as more of a deep safety, like a free I
Speaker 1: think of Paula Malu more of a like a strong safety.
Speaker 3: So I think they're different.
Speaker 1: Both just electric football players that you want to play with,
Speaker 1: Like I would love to get to play with them,
Speaker 1: because the amount of practice against them that you would get,
Speaker 1: like it would make you a better football player.
Speaker 2: Sure, what iron sharpens on?
Speaker 3: What do you think? It depends on the scheme. It
Speaker 3: depends on the defensive coach, what their mindset is. Like
Speaker 3: you said, if you have a scheme where the safeties,
Speaker 3: you know, are blitzing more and making more plays in
Speaker 3: the backfield and acting more of like a linebacker, you
Speaker 3: got to go with Troy Polamalu. But if you have
Speaker 3: a scheme where it's more about coverage, you gotta go
Speaker 3: with ad Reed, no doubt about it. I mean, this
Speaker 3: guy could cover any part of the field at any
Speaker 3: given time, even if he's on one side. If he
Speaker 3: has one half of the field, he can go to
Speaker 3: the other half and give help to the safety once
Speaker 3: the ball is released so fast and just so quick.
Speaker 2: And what's so great about him too.
Speaker 3: Is just his ball skills man, he would like tip
Speaker 3: that ball to him like all the time for an
Speaker 3: interception like and then wide receiver skills.
Speaker 1: Post interception, he'd be throwing you throw the ball back.
Speaker 1: They always you always had to be alert for a
Speaker 1: lateral or remember he stole the ball from his teammate
Speaker 1: to pick it when he was about to fall down.
Speaker 1: Out of players who didn't play for coach Belichick, who
Speaker 1: do you think is on the mount rushmore of guys
Speaker 1: that he loves, because I for sure Ed Reid would.
Speaker 2: Be obviously Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1: We just talked we played for him, but that we
Speaker 1: didn't play that we didn't play with What do.
Speaker 2: You mean didn't like that coach that that didn't coach?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe that so because he coached Lawrence Taylor. He
Speaker 3: coached Lawrence Taylor's out of them, but he's still on there.
Speaker 3: He's still he's still on there, Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Ed, I would say Ed Reed might might be number one.
Speaker 3: Then the guy that coach Belichick never coached, never dreamed
Speaker 3: of coaching. Sorry, Devin mccordy, we got your back. You
Speaker 3: want to rate dudes on dudes?
Speaker 2: Well, coach Chuck.
Speaker 3: Love that read got him.
Speaker 1: Who else would be on there? Who else did he love?
Speaker 3: Probably like a. I mean, well, he coached Cam Newon.
Speaker 3: He loved Cam Newing. I always talked about Cam Newing,
Speaker 3: you gotta contain him in the pocket. But then he
Speaker 3: coached Cam Newon, So that one doesn't really count.
Speaker 2: But it was him.
Speaker 3: Love Peyton Manny, no doubt about it. Love another guy
Speaker 3: at a legend played way back in the day, Jim Brown.
Speaker 1: Bill Bill loved Jim Brown. He whenever that is that
Speaker 1: is such a good pool because anytime there would be
Speaker 1: just guys slapped. We'd be slap digging in the locker
Speaker 1: room and Bill be coming in with his little fucking towel.
Speaker 1: You know, you go to the treadmill with this binder
Speaker 1: and his towel. You're going to watch him film on
Speaker 1: the tread and guys be arguing about shit.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Bill sometimes would say something. He'd be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I remember someone guys were
Speaker 1: arguing about top top running backs of all time.
Speaker 3: Oh it's this guy. It's this guy.
Speaker 1: I think he just said Jim Brown. You guys don't know,
Speaker 1: fucking Jim Brown's best football player. Like he loves Jim
Speaker 1: Brown loves loves Jim Brown.
Speaker 3: What about Ed Reid's you know college days? He was
Speaker 3: he was the guy at the U, Like he exemplified
Speaker 3: what the U was all about. Tough, hard and nosed
Speaker 3: football players that gave no damn, no damn out there
Speaker 3: out on the field, gave it. They're all and this
Speaker 3: just represents them in just one play. What you got
Speaker 3: jewels about that? I mean, look at Miami versus Boston
Speaker 3: College two thousand and one. Miami was up twelve seven
Speaker 3: late in the game and Boston College was in the
Speaker 3: red zulum.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this play?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the most famous college football players of
Speaker 3: all time. He got deflected into what one of his
Speaker 3: defensive linemen ad reed, strips the ball from him and
Speaker 3: takes an eighty yards to the house. Yeah, and they
Speaker 3: ended up winning eighteen to seven.
Speaker 1: Flashy like their defense, Like it just just fun flash Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll put it in. He's also like a speech giver.
Speaker 1: You know you look at this one speech. I'm sitting there.
Speaker 1: They're up twenty one to three at halftime. He was
Speaker 1: pissed at Miami's effort because they were like national champion hopes.
Speaker 1: This was when the U is the freaking U. Here
Speaker 1: you go and and Ed Reid, I'm hurt, don't ask
Speaker 1: me if I'm all right. I'll put my heart in
Speaker 1: this ship. Let's go, man.
Speaker 2: And what happened?
Speaker 1: They go and blow him out forty nine seven?
Speaker 2: And then what what happened?
Speaker 1: End of the year, lose the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: They won the national championship BCS National Championship. That is
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. The U was the you who
Speaker 3: didn't love you.
Speaker 1: He's on the Mount Rushmore. You guys too, isn't he?
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis m h I mean, what offensive guys? Michael
Speaker 1: Irving Gores there, Shocky, there's a couple. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of tight ends.
Speaker 2: What about Andre Johnson.
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne Orren.
Speaker 2: Sap oh Man just goes on that.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what people think. Who's on that
Speaker 1: big V. How can you forget about Big vidude? Greg Olsen?
Speaker 1: I mean you when we were kids, man.
Speaker 2: You know what. I love the U. Dude.
Speaker 3: I got an offer from the U to go play
Speaker 3: tight end there. Yeah, I wasn't gonna go. There was
Speaker 3: at the very and I just thought like I was
Speaker 3: complete because I got the offer from you, like it
Speaker 3: just made me satisfied, Like, yeah, I could play at
Speaker 3: the you but I'm not going there, but I could
Speaker 3: play that I got the offer.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, very happy, but you when I
Speaker 1: was when I you know, when you're in eighth grade
Speaker 1: and you do that thing where you write a letter
Speaker 1: to yourself and then your teacher saves it and then
Speaker 1: sends it to you and you're a senior in high school.
Speaker 1: Mine's went along the lines of something like this, like,
Speaker 1: it's good to see that you're probably going to be
Speaker 1: signing your your commitment letter to University of Miami. I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the sunshine. I wanted to go to
Speaker 1: the U so bad. I wrote to myself in eighth
Speaker 1: grade to a fucking myself in the future. And little
Speaker 1: that I know, I was ended up at JUCO and yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't go.
Speaker 3: To the end. And then Kent.
Speaker 2: It was kind of it was close to close because.
Speaker 3: There's that was in your class. It was close.
Speaker 2: That was close. Rounded up at Kent.
Speaker 3: It was like that we can't do the U, but
Speaker 3: we can do the Kent, which is kind of near Miami,
Speaker 3: but the Miami Ohio. Yeah, yeah, So it was never
Speaker 3: offered to go to Kent and then you would still
Speaker 3: you would still be in a junior college right now.
Speaker 3: To go beat beat you.
Speaker 1: You manifested play against Joey Paul Mulu. I have manifested
Speaker 1: play against Miami of Ohio, Baby.
Speaker 3: Miami, Ohio grade school. My friend went there to him twice,
Speaker 3: and let me tell you, we had a good time.
Speaker 3: And my jersey is up on the wall and it
Speaker 3: got stolen. It was right next to big bench. Jersey forgot.
Speaker 3: The place we went to, oh Man, Miami House was crazy.
Speaker 1: Sean McVay went. I played against Sean McVay when he
Speaker 1: went to Miami.
Speaker 3: While he's that young, Yeah he's that No, no, he's
Speaker 3: that young.
Speaker 1: He's both because he's a head coach, I know, but
Speaker 1: he was a head coach ten years ago. I think
Speaker 1: he got any twenty.
Speaker 2: What position did he play?
Speaker 3: He was the receiver slot. He had a catch against us, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just one, though I don't really remember him.
Speaker 2: I trying to get you now.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you remember me. That's what we're talking about,
Speaker 3: all right. I love time. What kind of dude is
Speaker 3: Edrie oh Man? I mean, definitely a wizard, because you
Speaker 3: got to know the game of football, especially on the
Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, in order to bait your
Speaker 3: quarterback into throwing the ball so you can go make
Speaker 3: an interception. But he absolute dog too when he made
Speaker 3: that interception, brought it to the house, stripping his lineman
Speaker 3: in college so he can go for an eighty hour touchdown,
Speaker 3: he thought, returning as well as the most electric returns
Speaker 3: in most yardage return in the NFL history for the
Speaker 3: player Black.
Speaker 1: When you're when you're the superstar on defense and you're
Speaker 1: still playing in the kicking game, that's fucking dog.
Speaker 3: That's when you know you're a legend. That's a dog.
Speaker 2: That's when you know you're a football player as well.
Speaker 1: Mental toughness, always motivated. You knew met you knew Ed
Speaker 1: Reid was motivated.
Speaker 2: Heart and soul of the U.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's so many hearts there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was so many hearts.
Speaker 3: But one of them one of the heart and souls
Speaker 3: of the U. One of the heart and souls. So dog, dog,
Speaker 3: dog stamping damp it dog.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break, all right.
Speaker 1: And to cap off our last all right here, let's
Speaker 1: get on Jim Brown what's a I gotta say about
Speaker 1: Jim Brown?
Speaker 2: Start the clock.
Speaker 3: Jim Brown was a six foot two and thirty two
Speaker 3: pound powerhouse. A four spoor.
Speaker 2: Athlete at the University of Syracuse. He was drafted six.
Speaker 3: Overall by the Cleveland Browns in nineteen fifty seven. He
Speaker 3: quickly established himself as a dominant force in the league.
Speaker 3: Over nine seasons, he piled up twelve three hundred and
Speaker 3: twelve career rushing yards, a career average of five point
Speaker 3: two yards per carry, and scored one hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: six touchdowns, leading the league and rushing eight times. He
Speaker 3: was named NFL MVP three times. Off the field, he
Speaker 3: was a Hollywood leading man with a lengthy film resume
Speaker 3: and a noted civil rights advocate. He is Jim Brown
Speaker 3: for you, ladies and gentlemen, Jules, what is the first
Speaker 3: thing you think of when you hear the name Jim
Speaker 3: freakin Brown?
Speaker 2: Here he is ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Like I know, we tossed around the word legend, but
Speaker 1: that's that's what I think about when you think of
Speaker 1: Jim Brown. There's like so many facets of everything in life,
Speaker 1: just life that Jim Brown has done great things in fullanthropy,
Speaker 1: supporting his community in the movie business. On the football field,
Speaker 1: retired on his own terms. Was a great out like
Speaker 1: an outstanding man off the field that like mentored a
Speaker 1: lot of our guys, a lot of football players that
Speaker 1: that Cleveland Summit pitcher, which you know, which is a
Speaker 1: huge thing for not just our you know, not just sports,
Speaker 1: but for our country to see some of the elite
Speaker 1: men in sports that everyone loves the community binder the
Speaker 1: sports are to see these guys step out for their
Speaker 1: community in that Cleveland Summit him, you know, Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: Kareema Jewel Jabbar, Bill Russell, Muhammad Ali, like these guys
Speaker 1: were the pinnacle of pinnacle of the athletes, support their
Speaker 1: community and have you know, be proud of what they
Speaker 1: were and what they stand for. Like that takes a
Speaker 1: lot of balls, really does. That's what Jim Brown was
Speaker 1: And that's.
Speaker 3: Why I love athletics so much because it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: about your race, your background, where you came from. You know,
Speaker 3: everything's fair in the athletic world, and you get a
Speaker 3: platform as well. And just the way that they use
Speaker 3: their platform. Kareema Abdul Jabbar, you know, Jim Brown, Muhammad
Speaker 3: al Lee to expand their community and that everyone's treated
Speaker 3: equal and that's just how it should be one. I mean,
Speaker 3: back in the day, we didn't really live in that era.
Speaker 3: I mean I couldn't even imagine it, like like being
Speaker 3: like that, like just unbelievable what he has done. And
Speaker 3: to have that, you know, like you said, to have
Speaker 3: that courage to go out there and represent your community,
Speaker 3: you gotta tip your hat off always. And he's one
Speaker 3: of the you know, main founders of doing that, along
Speaker 3: with many other players like baseball players like Jackie Robinson
Speaker 3: and those guys. I mean, hats off to them for
Speaker 3: their their.
Speaker 1: Current, but he's one of He's one of the football
Speaker 1: guys for us that was a pillar in trying to
Speaker 1: make things better when I think of him. Also, Bill
Speaker 1: also loved him because he was a lax guy. I
Speaker 1: mean he was a four sport athlete.
Speaker 3: I mean, and to be a lax guy, you know
Speaker 3: back in the day like that, I mean he wasn't.
Speaker 3: I mean he could what was his for sport he played?
Speaker 3: And he played all four at Syracuse too, which is a.
Speaker 1: Cross football, basketball, on track.
Speaker 3: How do you do that? How do you play four
Speaker 3: sports in college? Like? How Jim Brown did. That's how
Speaker 3: I bet he played lacrosse like like like kind of
Speaker 3: like a football player. Like no, no, you know when a
Speaker 3: football player is playing basketball, though they could still be
Speaker 3: the best basketball player in the court, but you could
Speaker 3: tell they're a football player.
Speaker 1: Like myself, Jim Brown was the best lacrosse player in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: But I bet you he was like playing like a
Speaker 3: football player though, Like when he was getting that lacrosse sick,
Speaker 3: he was probably carrying it like a football a little bit,
Speaker 3: like right into his chest and just kind of like
Speaker 3: stiff roming guys away from him and just running down
Speaker 3: the field and then then shooting it and scoring. I
Speaker 3: feel like that's how he played. I mean whatever, I
Speaker 3: bet you he was just unstoppable.
Speaker 1: I mean he shot a seventy seven on his fifth
Speaker 1: time ever playing golf. A seventy seven. That's two what
Speaker 1: is that? Five over par? Like that's that's when you
Speaker 1: know you're fucking You're just touched by God and you know,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people want to say, because of
Speaker 1: the generation he played this that.
Speaker 3: Six three to two thirty two.
Speaker 1: Nowadays, if he was in the in the generation of
Speaker 1: the science, the supplements, the information, the training, the diet.
Speaker 1: If he was in that nowadays, you think he'd still
Speaker 1: be two thirty two. This dude was doing that off cobs, milkshakes,
Speaker 1: hop tubs, all of it. These guys were doing it
Speaker 1: off just like they had another job in the off seas.
Speaker 3: So being two hundred and thirty two pounds back in
Speaker 3: the day running four four, running four to four, I
Speaker 3: mean he was bigger than some defensive tackles I feel like,
Speaker 3: I mean they were only like two forty two fifty.
Speaker 3: It's equivalent to him being like two hundred and ninety
Speaker 3: pounds right now, just all muscles, just playing.
Speaker 1: You know, in the backfield, he'd be like Derek Derreck Henry.
Speaker 3: And he just ran away from everyone. He was bigger
Speaker 3: than everyone on the field at that time, bigger and
Speaker 3: faster and stronger, and just the base that he had,
Speaker 3: everyone just.
Speaker 2: Bounced off him.
Speaker 1: He didn't miss a play rob in his eight year career.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine I'm missing a play And this is
Speaker 1: back when you know these guys they didn't.
Speaker 3: Have Matterson wasn't the same.
Speaker 1: They didn't have great cleats, they didn't have any equipment.
Speaker 2: The rehab was it was totally different.
Speaker 1: You just went out there cigarettes on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Drinking, freaking a shot at halftime and.
Speaker 1: Then also like one of the first black action heroes. Hey,
Speaker 1: I used to love Dirty Dozen. I loved him in
Speaker 1: The Running Man. I used to love that movie. And
Speaker 1: the guy lives right down down the street for me,
Speaker 1: the guy that produced it. I got a shout out
Speaker 1: to him. See him walking all the time. He's always talking.
Speaker 1: I'm remaking The Running Man. I'm remaking The Running Man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, awesome, man, what's well?
Speaker 3: What my favorite thing about it? I never seen The
Speaker 3: Running Man. I gotta see it now. So oh, you
Speaker 3: love and hang out with the director as well and
Speaker 3: feel cool like now he's a director, producer.
Speaker 2: Or the producer.
Speaker 3: I mean kind of the same thing back in the day.
Speaker 3: But he posed for Playgirl like that was my dream.
Speaker 3: Like there was always Playboy, and I actually never knew
Speaker 3: play Playgirl. Did you say your dream was deposed? It
Speaker 3: was okay, Jules, because here's a fun fact. I didn't
Speaker 3: know Playgirl existed until I was just looking up some
Speaker 3: notes on Jim Brown, and I was like, he he
Speaker 3: posed for Playgirl, like I always said it growing up.
Speaker 3: You got to call my mom and ask her like,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? I'm like, I'm gonna pose
Speaker 3: for Playgirl. I never knew Playgirl actually existed. I always
Speaker 3: just like I want to start Playgirl, But it existed,
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that until I just read these
Speaker 3: facts about Jim Brown a couple of days ago, when
Speaker 3: I just looked him up and he literally posed, and
Speaker 3: he posed what his piece hanging out is bare knuckle berry? Like,
Speaker 3: imagine imagine doing that all right, having a well grown
Speaker 3: on bush too while posing.
Speaker 1: I back in that a seventies, Oh my gosh, you know, Eric,
Speaker 1: would you post?
Speaker 2: Would you post for?
Speaker 1: Because Slate used to talk about Eric Dickerson. He's like
Speaker 1: Eric Digerson was on Playgirl. Jokerl so bad?
Speaker 3: What'd you have pose for Playgirl? Like, say, ten years ago,
Speaker 3: your young twenties. I don't even think play Girls round.
Speaker 3: I don't even know it was a round I did.
Speaker 3: We did body issues. It's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, different though, because this wasn't like we're
Speaker 1: just sitting at the pool table with our dings egg.
Speaker 1: You know, we were doing like jokingly stuff.
Speaker 3: Play Boy and play Girl were notoriously known more of
Speaker 3: like I actually knew about it. My suck symbol if
Speaker 3: you're in it.
Speaker 1: I remember being at one of my friend's house when
Speaker 1: we were like thirteen. He's like, look at this. Look
Speaker 1: at I found in my mom's room. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is that? It was a playground?
Speaker 1: Wait the mom?
Speaker 2: You just told that story. Oh it wasn't your mom.
Speaker 2: It was your friend.
Speaker 3: That wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my friends.
Speaker 2: And when I heard, I.
Speaker 3: Like, jewels, you're saying that about your mom? All right,
Speaker 3: who's your friend? Though you could definitely say it right now,
Speaker 3: you definitely say your friend's name.
Speaker 1: Dude, is there any movie roles that you'd quit football for?
Speaker 3: Well, why why did did he quit football for?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: For Dirty Dozen? Yeah, they thre they threatened the final,
Speaker 3: and that's why you were in the training camp.
Speaker 2: And instead of he's like, I'm gonna retire. Then that's
Speaker 2: a dog. I mean he was.
Speaker 3: It is a dog, but he was probably making more
Speaker 3: doing movies and playing football ata and he didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't hurt. His kindname is a play so you
Speaker 1: know he was hurting.
Speaker 3: And he had the dog for movies too. That's why
Speaker 3: he was showing it off. He was just setting up
Speaker 3: his career for After Football too.
Speaker 1: Hey, you remember, speaking of movies, remember when we did
Speaker 1: the movie we did Urge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was so fun.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I was a method actor for that movie. Like the
Speaker 3: role I was supposed to play is, you know, be
Speaker 3: beat up, beat up ground and I actually just had
Speaker 3: my knee surgery, so I was already beat up.
Speaker 2: But we put a cast on me too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember, like my arm was broken. And also
Speaker 3: we were at a party, so it was like me
Speaker 3: being hammered. And I was actually hammered for the role.
Speaker 3: So we weren't hammered, but I was.
Speaker 2: I was feeling good, Jules.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like to say that we were able
Speaker 1: to do that on set, but now.
Speaker 2: You can't because it was ten years ago.
Speaker 3: Was it ten years ago? Remember I gave you a
Speaker 3: beer bong you did?
Speaker 2: That was a real beer bong.
Speaker 3: That was real. It was it was method acting. Love
Speaker 3: that show. It's kind of like Hard Knocks. We were
Speaker 3: talking about Entourage and Hard Knocks. In high school was
Speaker 3: my glory days of watching television shows. It was those
Speaker 3: two and those two only, and I just lived up
Speaker 3: to want to be like that. I wanted to be
Speaker 3: like that. Football player and Hard Knocks. I wanted to
Speaker 3: be like the guys in Entourage. So thank you for
Speaker 3: those two shows for giving me that motivation to be
Speaker 3: that guy. There we are, Jewels, you're giving me the
Speaker 3: beer bomb. It was a real beer bong as well.
Speaker 3: That was so we should we should have quit football
Speaker 3: like Jim Brown. I know we actually no.
Speaker 1: We didn't want to know. We didn't win a super
Speaker 1: Bowl chance. Remember we weren't super Bowl then.
Speaker 3: Now, we weren't super Bowl championship, but we were awesome. Man,
Speaker 3: we were freaking awesome. Jewels time.
Speaker 1: What kind of dude is Jim Brown? They say, I'm
Speaker 1: not joking when you look him up in the lacrosse community.
Speaker 1: They don't look at him as a football player that
Speaker 1: played lacrosse. He's like a lacrosse guy. He's in the
Speaker 1: National Lacrosse Hall of Fame, on Everyone's top five list
Speaker 1: of all time football player. This guy is just he's
Speaker 1: got the pedigree of everything. What's that make him actor
Speaker 1: pivotal person in his community, not just his community, but
Speaker 1: in all communities, Like he transcends community. That's how That's
Speaker 1: how big of a person and a guy he was.
Speaker 1: And he's just I think he's just flat out stud.
Speaker 3: What do you think, I wouldn't say freak besides that,
Speaker 3: you know that pose and the playgirl. That's where he
Speaker 3: was a freak. But we're talking about his athletic ability.
Speaker 3: He was definitely a freak. He was the fastest, biggest
Speaker 3: guy in the field. No, yeah, but but he wasn't
Speaker 3: intriguing to be like a true freak, like looking like
Speaker 3: a true freak. He was. He was freaky, But I
Speaker 3: bet you not like not like that.
Speaker 2: He's definitely more of a stud.
Speaker 3: Well he's as a football player and as a you know,
Speaker 3: athletic type of guy. But he had some dog in him.
Speaker 3: I mean, whiz. I mean, you gotta be you gotta
Speaker 3: be smartest hacking order to play all those sports.
Speaker 1: And didn't miss it. He's probably a huge dude. He
Speaker 1: probably kept everyone in check in a just a different
Speaker 1: Jim Brown kind of way.
Speaker 3: But I feel like all those characteristics d lead to
Speaker 3: being a stud. You got to be a stud all
Speaker 3: over the place. He gotta be and to be the
Speaker 3: best at it all. And whatever he did off the
Speaker 3: field or on the field, he is stud. He's just stud.
Speaker 1: Well that's been another episode of dudes on, dudes, what
Speaker 1: can we do better?
Speaker 3: Next episode? Rob, so scout it.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think we're getting better.
Speaker 2: We are getting better.
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Speaker 3: playing poker the other day and I started off slow,
Speaker 3: and I was figuring out the game more and more
Speaker 3: as the time was going on. I played ten hours,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I was a better player at
Speaker 3: like the seventh hour of playing than the first six
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Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 2: I held my own. It was a good time.
Speaker 3: But we could definitely get better, man, I would say
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