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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, December twentieth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 5: episode number ninety two. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 5: The Break. We are live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 5: At the start a day, we start getting ready for
Speaker 5: Cowboys versus Dolphins that's happening this Sunday at.
Speaker 3: Three twenty five.
Speaker 5: I think it's a kick in Miami, and so we'll
Speaker 5: get into this Miami offense and how it matches up
Speaker 5: versus this Dallas defense, and well we can expect a
Speaker 5: little different outcome as far as how the defense plays
Speaker 5: this week versus last week.
Speaker 3: Got a good shot.
Speaker 5: I want to start first, though Patrick's not with us
Speaker 5: today and usually gives assist, but Brian, I'm sure you
Speaker 5: have this information as well. I want to start with
Speaker 5: some injuries and just kind of where we're like set
Speaker 5: the table for where we are with the injuries. I
Speaker 5: want to start first with Zach Martin because he left
Speaker 5: the game noticeable absence for the Cowboys obviously, but what
Speaker 5: are we hearing about his injury and what kind of
Speaker 5: time he may or may not miss.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing that you always worry about, because last
Speaker 3: week we talked about what Hookers situation, and they felt
Speaker 3: good about Hooker all the way up until game time,
Speaker 3: and then it was well that the ankle didn't respond
Speaker 3: fully like we thought it would. So all the things
Speaker 3: you're hearing about Zach Martin are positive. We've also, you know,
Speaker 3: on one O five three the Fan, we have the
Speaker 3: Zach Martin Show every Thursday at five, and you know,
Speaker 3: you try and ask him questions. He's usually fourth, right,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm playing in all that, and then we
Speaker 3: get to the game and then Christy Scales tells us, oh,
Speaker 3: he's inactive today, So everything is positive from that standpoint.
Speaker 3: We'll see the practice designations and all that. These are
Speaker 3: these things with you know, with Jerry Jones was on
Speaker 3: with us at one O five three of the Fan
Speaker 3: talking about the you know what you deal with the
Speaker 3: stiffness and the blood and the you know, the bruise
Speaker 3: and all those things that you have to but all
Speaker 3: the indications were that he is getting better every day.
Speaker 3: Now let's see if that translates into Zach Martin playing
Speaker 3: against the Miami Dolphins. I feel by by Friday, you
Speaker 3: should have a pretty good understanding of really where he's at.
Speaker 5: What do we know about at this point. Obviously Mollie
Speaker 5: Cooker was one, as you.
Speaker 3: Mentioned, and they thought they thought that was that one.
Speaker 3: What are we hearing now, yeah, that's that one seems
Speaker 3: to be going in the right direction as well. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know they last Thursday I was told I'm like,
Speaker 3: I asked, well, hey, what what's your concerned level of hooker?
Speaker 3: And I got these should be good to go, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden.
Speaker 6: Every last minute.
Speaker 3: That's that's the thing that bothers me. And I asked,
Speaker 3: was there a setback? And they said no, there wasn't
Speaker 3: a setback. So evidently it didn't respond how they thought
Speaker 3: it would respond, and so I felt like, you know
Speaker 3: that they missed him in that game the other day.
Speaker 3: Nothing against jan Yer Thomas, but there were some coverage
Speaker 3: things that they had not that they had to try
Speaker 3: and you know that the Buffalo through the ball a bunch,
Speaker 3: but there was some things that they had to do
Speaker 3: with him not being on the field too to kind
Speaker 3: of combat that. So, uh that that's a but all
Speaker 3: indications that he will be available this week.
Speaker 5: All right, Hankins, what's the it was? That?
Speaker 3: That one was I heard a couple of games.
Speaker 5: So I don't know the anticipation I anticipated him playing
Speaker 5: this week?
Speaker 3: Now, man, how much?
Speaker 6: How much did they thought the last time I heard
Speaker 6: it was his return would have been closer to like
Speaker 6: the playoffs?
Speaker 3: Well they they initially what I was here, and now
Speaker 3: I asked the question, are we looking at a couple
Speaker 3: of games here? And that was before the Buffalo game.
Speaker 3: So my anticipation was, or my expectations where he was
Speaker 3: going to miss Buffalo in Miami and then we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens with Detroit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it was any guarantem high ankle
Speaker 5: spring sometimes can take six weeks.
Speaker 3: For a guy that size too, that's a problem.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean, you know that was I think
Speaker 5: it's even optimistic when you start talking about playoffs too,
Speaker 5: like it's just you just never know how that's gonna
Speaker 5: work out. How much did they really miss it? Like,
Speaker 5: let's start with Hooker. How much did they miss Hooker
Speaker 5: this week?
Speaker 3: Well, it did, you know, it's with wan Ye. There's
Speaker 3: there's Buffalo didn't throw the ball. But there are things
Speaker 3: you have to play around when you don't have your
Speaker 3: starting safety in uh. And so that just that going
Speaker 3: into the game of Okay, how are we going to
Speaker 3: deal with their passing attack? And it didn't really matter,
Speaker 3: you know, but just having him back there, having that
Speaker 3: veteran player back there, you know, with some of the
Speaker 3: routes that they did run. Uh, you know it, it
Speaker 3: kind of was. It was a little bit of a
Speaker 3: you know, when you have a starter out of the game,
Speaker 3: now you're playing wan Ya in there. Okay, now maybe
Speaker 3: you have a plan for Wanya and some other things,
Speaker 3: and so you can't do that because he's having to
Speaker 3: start the game. So when you take starters out, people
Speaker 3: don't realize the backups that go in have other roles
Speaker 3: that they have to play in the scheme. And I
Speaker 3: think that hurt them a little bit in that game.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about justin Houston. He's a linebacker that got
Speaker 5: released by Carolina. I know, I mit saw on Twitter
Speaker 5: that you you watched a little film.
Speaker 3: I did. I watched him yesterday.
Speaker 5: Could he fit any role for the Cowboys?
Speaker 3: You know, he plays as a three four outside linebacks.
Speaker 3: It's a little different than he's very much like a
Speaker 3: when we start to talk about three four, it's a
Speaker 3: stand up position. He'll occasionally put his hand down. Uh
Speaker 3: he is when you when you There were times he
Speaker 3: hasn't played since the the Houston game, which is in
Speaker 3: week nine. So I was watching tape from week one
Speaker 3: through week nine and getting ideas he doesn't have the
Speaker 3: juice he once had. He doesn't take on blocks like
Speaker 3: he once did. When he was in Kansas City. He
Speaker 3: you know, they were running the ball at him and
Speaker 3: then you know they were able to push him aside
Speaker 3: ball going up inside on him. So as a pass rusher,
Speaker 3: you know, that was kind of his calling card. And
Speaker 3: I didn't see that that normal that you know, when
Speaker 3: you start to talk about a guy like, Okay, what's
Speaker 3: his calling card? That's his ability to rush the passer.
Speaker 3: There were times where he was getting single blocked quite
Speaker 3: a bit in these games, and I just don't see
Speaker 3: Dallas going that round.
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Speaker 5: Welcome back. It is the second segment of the break.
Speaker 5: We are live from SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start
Speaker 5: of the day, we're talking Cowboys versus Dolphins. Let's dive
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Speaker 5: Let's talk about Tyreek Hill because I think for me,
Speaker 5: looking at this team, he's.
Speaker 3: When everything starts. Well, you want to know where this
Speaker 3: game is really gonna hinge? Where is that it's on
Speaker 3: the offensive line.
Speaker 5: Okay, go there first, all right, tell me about the
Speaker 5: offensive line.
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, no, no, And I want to say
Speaker 3: this because it's this is where you can win this
Speaker 3: football okay. And it's going to affect how Hill and
Speaker 3: Moster and other of these guys get opportunities in this game.
Speaker 3: Tua throwing the ball. This group is really banged up
Speaker 3: along the front. And you watch them play and it
Speaker 3: was so clear watching them play the Jets, even though
Speaker 3: they win the game thirty to nothing and all that,
Speaker 3: you know, the skill on the outside great for the
Speaker 3: Dolphins quarterback playing at a very high level. They are
Speaker 3: masking a lot of problems they're having with this offensive
Speaker 3: line right now. And I just feel like, I just
Speaker 3: feel like that with all the moving parts that they have,
Speaker 3: Dallas has got to take advantage of this. You've got
Speaker 3: to take advantage in the running game, and then you
Speaker 3: also have to take it, excuse me, take advantage of
Speaker 3: it when they throw the football, because that's where the
Speaker 3: Dolphins could lose this football game, in my opinion. And
Speaker 3: yet you could talk about Hill and Waddle and you know,
Speaker 3: and smite the tight end too. You could talk about
Speaker 3: all these guys, but if they can't handle you up front,
Speaker 3: that is going to be a problem for them. And
Speaker 3: I feel like Dallas has the advantage here, I really
Speaker 3: really do. And I watched the Dolphins play. They've got
Speaker 3: a couple of Liam Eichenberg is the is taken over
Speaker 3: for Connor Williams blot his knee. So now they've got
Speaker 3: a center who's kind of banged up toe. They weren't
Speaker 3: practicing him last week. You watch him play, he struggles
Speaker 3: with any kind of movement. He struggles to kind of
Speaker 3: get to the second level. He struggles to take guys
Speaker 3: one on one. He struggles with guys that blitz on him.
Speaker 3: So they're using backup guys for here. Kendall Lamb is
Speaker 3: playing for for Jackson at tackle. Robert Jones has been out,
Speaker 3: so Robert Jones has been in for Hunt. They Robert
Speaker 3: Hunt has been out, they've lost him. They've got all
Speaker 3: these problems right now they're dealing with and what they're
Speaker 3: often what they're what Mike McDaniel is having to do
Speaker 3: is he is trying to looks like we've seen with
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn when he's doing to try and stop the
Speaker 3: or stop running game. Mike McDaniel is trying. Now. It's
Speaker 3: the and when you hear me say this, everybody freaks out.
Speaker 3: It's the penn and pull stuff. Because they can't block.
Speaker 3: They can't block anybody one on one. They can't physically
Speaker 3: come off the ball and get in and push you like.
Speaker 3: So they have to down block that. They have to
Speaker 3: pull guys, they have to trap guys. They have to.
Speaker 3: You're going to see some of the weirdest formations to
Speaker 3: run the football that you've ever seen in an NFL game.
Speaker 3: You know, you can see multiple a full back, a
Speaker 3: tieight end, a back, a quarterback all in the backfield together.
Speaker 3: You're going to see two backs, a tight end move.
Speaker 3: You're going to see they have to do things in
Speaker 3: order to run the ball. Now they've got quality backs,
Speaker 3: but they have to do it because their offensive line
Speaker 3: can't hold up right now with the way it is.
Speaker 3: They just can't come off and blow somebody off the ball,
Speaker 3: and it struggles and they struggle a little bit with
Speaker 3: protection too. Tennessee got after them. The Tennessee had five
Speaker 3: sacks in the game. A couple of the sacks were
Speaker 3: because a to will fumble the ball. The thing with
Speaker 3: two is he's not going to run away from you.
Speaker 3: He's not going to scramble away from you. So if
Speaker 3: you get pressure on him, you know you close on him,
Speaker 3: he's likely going to go down. So that's the thing
Speaker 3: for Dallas. But you clearly watch the film against the Jets,
Speaker 3: it's the quickest they've got the ball out all year long.
Speaker 3: And I have a feeling that it's gonna be the
Speaker 3: same game plan this week against the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 3: they're gonna be scared, like, we can't get in a
Speaker 3: mode here where we let the Cowboys rush. Okay, now
Speaker 3: it turns into a running game. Can the Dolphins block
Speaker 3: you with this current configuration of their offensive line, that's
Speaker 3: going to be their their issues in this game. Well,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be the problem.
Speaker 5: We've seen matchups where teams have had some success with
Speaker 5: quick passing games, right, is that something that Dallas? What
Speaker 5: can Dallas do to offset that? No one coming in
Speaker 5: this game? That's probably what they're gonna want to.
Speaker 3: Just got it know to me, I am not you
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna I am going to I'm gonna take
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the quick death here is what I'm
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take slow death. I'm not gonna back
Speaker 3: up and let these you know, these receivers can run,
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I'm gonna play these guys at
Speaker 3: press coverage though, I'm gonna make them try and win
Speaker 3: off the line, which you know you probably could put.
Speaker 3: But Tua wants to get rid of I mean, he
Speaker 3: wants to Maybe it's not gonna go with the quick game.
Speaker 3: It goes to smite the tight it goes to one
Speaker 3: of these backs. You know, maybe you keep it away,
Speaker 3: because that's what the Jets were able to do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they hit on a deep ball down the field. It
Speaker 3: was off of play action. They got the protection, the
Speaker 3: ball went way down the field. But overall though, I mean,
Speaker 3: the Jets were getting pressure on him, you know. And
Speaker 3: so I think with the quick game, it might mean, Okay,
Speaker 3: they're going to throw the ball. Maybe it goes more
Speaker 3: to the backs, like say, more to the tight ends.
Speaker 3: Maybe they try and get the receivers going and some
Speaker 3: of the inside breaking routes and things like that. They're
Speaker 3: a huge run after catch team. That's their game, like
Speaker 3: fifty four to fifty five percent of their offense or
Speaker 3: run after catch is what that is. But what you
Speaker 3: have to do, though, is I think you have to
Speaker 3: disrupt their routes at the line. Don't give them the
Speaker 3: free access. If you're going to die, die a quick death,
Speaker 3: don't die a slow death. You know, by playing off
Speaker 3: and just letting them hit balls all day on you
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 6: Going back to the O line and the issues that
Speaker 6: you mentioned. For how long like how long has it
Speaker 6: been of them dealing with.
Speaker 3: The They've dealt with it last several weeks, the last
Speaker 3: three games, They've had some problems with this line. It's
Speaker 3: now to the point where it's like critical for them.
Speaker 3: I think this is I just feel like the Dallas
Speaker 3: has an advantage against this offensive line with the with
Speaker 3: their personnel against this offensive line, Can Dallas take advantage
Speaker 3: of that? That's going to be the biggest that's going
Speaker 3: to be the key in this football game. We could
Speaker 3: talk about Hill and Waddle and all and all these
Speaker 3: other guys. But but if if Miami is able with
Speaker 3: this offensive line, with banged up as it is, blocks
Speaker 3: the Cowboys front, Dallas deserves to lose this football game.
Speaker 3: Dallas's off defensive line is better than what this what
Speaker 3: this Miami, this current Miami offensive line is configured right now.
Speaker 5: When you look at this offense from the standpoint of
Speaker 5: their skill positions. We talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 3: TI to catch off on that one.
Speaker 5: No no, no, man, that's actually great.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 5: It actually leads into where I'm going with this Tyreek kill.
Speaker 5: I could see a situation where Dallas may go in
Speaker 5: this game and say, Okay, cool, let's press. What I
Speaker 5: worry about is even if they don't press. What we've
Speaker 5: seen from this these cornerbacks sometimes is they can get
Speaker 5: duped and the double move can get them right and
Speaker 5: if they get time, you're not gonna If he's even
Speaker 5: with you, he's gonna leave you. Like he's got that
Speaker 5: kind of speed. How do you offset the speed of
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 3: Whatever football God, you pray to stop praying now, well,
Speaker 3: pray pray to this that you know he's banged up.
Speaker 3: I mean that at ankle is a significant injury for him.
Speaker 3: That's a high ankle sprain that he's having to deal
Speaker 3: with right now, and that's something that you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: i'd say he's limited this guy, Okay, I'm not. It's
Speaker 3: not government secrets or anything. This is one of the
Speaker 3: most dynamic weapons in the National Football League. We all
Speaker 3: have seen this guy puts fear in the hearts of
Speaker 3: defensive backs by the way he plays. You're terrified. You know.
Speaker 3: They get what they call three by one, they get trips,
Speaker 3: they get one. You know, they put him in that bunch.
Speaker 3: They don't let you double them. He moves around, he
Speaker 3: catches balls underneath, he goes down the field. You know
Speaker 3: he's going to go all over the field to catch
Speaker 3: the football. So you have to be ready for that.
Speaker 3: If you're going to travel with him, you have to
Speaker 3: be ready for that. He is going to line up
Speaker 3: all the place. You try and double him, you know
Speaker 3: you're trying. And this is where you need, like guys
Speaker 3: like Hooker and others to maybe to be able to
Speaker 3: bracket guys like this. You know. But I'm not giving
Speaker 3: these guys free access. I'm just not. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 3: going to try and disrupt him at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and bang them around. And if Tua
Speaker 3: wants to get the ball out, then throw it into
Speaker 3: some and throw it into some uh contested coverage. I'm
Speaker 3: not giving two any because two is already accurate enough
Speaker 3: throwing the football he is, he's underneath at the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. He's almost perfect. When it's down the field though,
Speaker 3: that's when it's a little bit of a problem for him,
Speaker 3: you know, down the field, like he's I was looking
Speaker 3: at so some of the metrics on him, interceptions left
Speaker 3: hash six, you know, down the field, there's some problems
Speaker 3: down there. He's not as accurate with some of his throws.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to make this as much of a
Speaker 3: contested game, because if they're gonna throw quick, you might
Speaker 3: as well be in the receiver's face and make them,
Speaker 3: make them have to fight for the ball.
Speaker 5: As good as their offense has been, there have been
Speaker 5: some games this year what teams have limited them. They
Speaker 5: remind me a little bit of the Cowboys. It's kind
Speaker 5: of feast or family, like they can really blow you up.
Speaker 5: They put up seventy on Denver, but they also had
Speaker 5: two games where they they were under two hundred yards passing,
Speaker 5: both at Philadelphia and at Kansas City.
Speaker 3: What did those teams do so Philadelphia? Philadelphia did a
Speaker 3: great job of when the ball was out. They tackled
Speaker 3: great in that game. Philadelphia, I mean, they didn't allow
Speaker 3: any type of run after catch, it was throw guy
Speaker 3: and play. And it seemed like that every time that
Speaker 3: Philadelphia excuse me, that Miami ran motion and then we're
Speaker 3: trying to they have a design motion and then throw
Speaker 3: the ball. There was somebody in a Kelly Green Jersey
Speaker 3: standway right there, just waiting there. I mean, they were disciplined.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen Philadelphia just completely fall apart in
Speaker 3: the secondary. They were outstanding in this game when it
Speaker 3: came to their coverage and then playing assignments and when
Speaker 3: receivers came into their area. But then again, the Philadelphia
Speaker 3: pass rush affected Miami. You know, Toua goes back, he's
Speaker 3: feeling these feelings, Phielings trying to get rid of the ball.
Speaker 3: But then you got the secondary, you got coverage down there.
Speaker 3: That's the teams have been able to play with some discipline.
Speaker 3: You can't I get it. You're scared of these receivers.
Speaker 3: They are. They're scary men when the way they play
Speaker 3: for defensive back. Yeah, but I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 3: this offensive line they're having to mask things to get
Speaker 3: offense because they're not good enough.
Speaker 5: Right now, when you mentioned that they do a lot
Speaker 5: of pinn and polls and that kind of stuff. How
Speaker 5: much does the speed of their running backs. We talk
Speaker 5: a lot about the speed of Hill, but man, they
Speaker 5: got some runners in the backfield with mostered and with hn.
Speaker 5: How much does that present a problem, especially in a
Speaker 5: situation which because of the pinn and pool kind of
Speaker 5: things like those, all you need is a quick hit
Speaker 5: and if you got a quick back, you can actually
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 3: That's the thing about it. And Jets did a pretty
Speaker 3: good job of this though. When the ball was going
Speaker 3: to the inside, the Jets were the Dolphins weren't doing anything.
Speaker 3: Everything was let's try and if it's a you know,
Speaker 3: they get what they call pistol formation where they stand
Speaker 3: directly behind behind and he turns and hands the ball
Speaker 3: and then they try and get to the outside. Or
Speaker 3: they'll go they'll send misdirection, they'll send the line one way,
Speaker 3: back will counterstep, and then they come back the other
Speaker 3: and just toss on the outside. They'll crack on the outside.
Speaker 3: That's where That's where I mean to me, this is
Speaker 3: where you have to win. You have to win on
Speaker 3: the edge. You cannot let Smite the tight end pin
Speaker 3: you inside. You can't let Cedric Wilson pin you inside.
Speaker 3: You got to know they're gonna want to run the ball.
Speaker 3: You see a tight split and it's Cedric Wilson number eleven.
Speaker 3: You're thinking, he's about to crack my ass, you know.
Speaker 3: So I got to be ready for this. I gotta
Speaker 3: be able and see that's what hied to Micael Parsons
Speaker 3: the other day. He got cracked. He tried to spin
Speaker 3: out of it, but it's too late, balls already. So
Speaker 3: you have to play with some awareness in this game.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't, you know. And Tank's really good
Speaker 3: at this too. He understands like, Okay, that guy right
Speaker 3: there is going to it's going to block down. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're gonna pull this guy. I can read his stance
Speaker 3: right now. Dallas has got to play with some anticipation
Speaker 3: in this game, especially the way the Dolphins run the football.
Speaker 5: When you look at a guy like Cook, obviously I
Speaker 5: don't I don't personally think he has more skill than
Speaker 5: these backs. Yeah, that you're playing this weekend, what would
Speaker 5: give you reason to believe that Dallas can actually match
Speaker 5: up with this running game better than what they did
Speaker 5: against Cook?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I just I just I go back to the offensive line.
Speaker 3: You have got to win and you Dallas got penetration
Speaker 3: in a lot and several of the snaps against Buffalo
Speaker 3: the ball just bounced on him. You know, you have
Speaker 3: got to play with some discipline in this game. If
Speaker 3: you were if you were a backside defender and you're
Speaker 3: chasing the ball down inside and it bounces around the corner,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's a ten yard game
Speaker 3: because you didn't play assignment. That's that's on the defense
Speaker 3: because you're winning on the front side, but on the
Speaker 3: backside you're not doing your job. So I I would
Speaker 3: say that that dan Quinn. This week of practice a
Speaker 3: lot of that. Hey, let's not let the thing with
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Buffalo will bounce the ball. The Dolphins are
Speaker 3: a attack, attack and then or throw or get the
Speaker 3: ball to the outside. So you're naturally going to see
Speaker 3: it's not a lot of bouncing going on. It's a
Speaker 3: lot of are a we're determined that we're gonna go
Speaker 3: outside and they have to do that because their line
Speaker 3: can't hold up in the running game if they have
Speaker 3: to play toe to toe with somebody.
Speaker 5: I want to take you back to that offensive line.
Speaker 5: Where is the biggest point of failure for that offensive
Speaker 5: line that maybe Dallas can.
Speaker 3: Expec Yeah, they they gotta, they've got to work on
Speaker 3: the center. Though they've absolutely talked about Eikenberg the center.
Speaker 3: He's a backup. And the thing we all know Connor Williams.
Speaker 3: Connor Williams was a really good athlete. So Connor Williams
Speaker 3: has got a little bit of that, uh of the
Speaker 3: of the Jason Kelsey uh kind of that that kind
Speaker 3: of you know, play with him, the ability to pull
Speaker 3: and do well. He's out, he's gone. So now they're
Speaker 3: they're there in a situation where they don't have a
Speaker 3: second level blocker. He's imber, he can't get up on
Speaker 3: any can't sustained. And I also think Lamb, the right tackle,
Speaker 3: Kendall Lamb, those were two areas right there where I
Speaker 3: kind of saw a guy, you know, center can't get
Speaker 3: in there, and the right tackle given ground, you know,
Speaker 3: tank needs to like needs to drive because two is
Speaker 3: gonna stand there, Two is gonna try and you know
Speaker 3: he's gonna try and left hand make that throw and
Speaker 3: you know that's that's affecting him from that backside there.
Speaker 3: So if your right tackles poured, that's that's where Micah
Speaker 3: and and and and Lawrence and these guys. They need
Speaker 3: to work that, but they also need to work the
Speaker 3: middle because if you can, if you get to it
Speaker 3: to get that where he just stands there, you can
Speaker 3: get him on the ground. He is not gonna run
Speaker 3: away from you like the quarterbacks that you've played the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 5: the Cowboys, and I want to get your thoughts not
Speaker 5: only on how they played last week, but how they're
Speaker 5: performing and what you think their role may be going
Speaker 5: into this next game that.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna do a little player evaluation. I got some
Speaker 5: names I'm gonna throw at you, and I want you
Speaker 5: guys to tell me what you think of their play.
Speaker 5: Maybe last weekend we could talk a little bit about
Speaker 5: it from that game, but also just in general, where
Speaker 5: are they and what you expect from them? I guess
Speaker 5: into this game and in the coming games down the
Speaker 5: show stretch, I'll start with Mozzie Smith.
Speaker 3: You know this one is a because I am a
Speaker 3: fan of Mozzie Smith, and I'm a fan of Mozzie
Speaker 3: Smith because I don't see a bad football player. And
Speaker 3: I know people that you know, the fan base, I
Speaker 3: get it. You know you're expecting more from Mozzie Smith.
Speaker 3: You see what Carter's doing in Philadelphia. He's a first
Speaker 3: round pick. There's a lot you know where the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are struggling with run defense, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Mozzie Smith is supposed to be a run defender and
Speaker 3: he's not helping the situation. I wish I had the
Speaker 3: opportunity to sit down and I tweeted this last night.
Speaker 3: I wish I had the opportunity to sit down with
Speaker 3: fans and watch the all twenty two of Mozzie Smith play,
Speaker 3: just so you get a little bit better of appreciation.
Speaker 3: Is Mozzie Smith perfect? No, he's absolutely not. It's been
Speaker 3: well documented. We talk about it, whether it's on this
Speaker 3: platform or on one, O, five to three of the
Speaker 3: fan on those shows. When Mozzie Smith, it's laid off
Speaker 3: the ball. He's a terrible football player. He's laid off
Speaker 3: the ball. That's a problem. And that happens not all
Speaker 3: the time, but there were times in the Buffalo game
Speaker 3: that he was Actually when you watched him play and
Speaker 3: the way he was able to get rid of guys
Speaker 3: and and get and force the ball to balance and stuff,
Speaker 3: it was because of Mozzie Smith. Mozzie Smith played better
Speaker 3: in that game than OsO Diggi Zua played better. I mean,
Speaker 3: you played better than Carl Davis, who was in there,
Speaker 3: a veteran player. You know, there were guys at defensive
Speaker 3: tackle that didn't play very well. Mazzie Smith. Did he
Speaker 3: play great?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. And I'm not sitting here defending and it
Speaker 3: sounds like I'm defending Mozzie Smith. But I think if
Speaker 3: people sat down and watched him play, snap after snap
Speaker 3: after snap after snap, you would have a different appreciation
Speaker 3: for him, or you would say, Okay, I see some
Speaker 3: of those things why they drafted him. And I'm not
Speaker 3: defending him, and I'm not defending the scouting staff or
Speaker 3: picking him. But there are times when this guy does
Speaker 3: exactly what he's supposed to do and I don't think
Speaker 3: people see that all the time, and they and it's
Speaker 3: low hanging fruit to me, and I trust me. I've
Speaker 3: dealt with all of you on Twitter. I've dealt with
Speaker 3: you. You know you can come after me at Brian brought
Speaker 3: his I know you will because you always do, you know.
Speaker 3: But I challenge you to get that all twenty two
Speaker 3: and sit down. You don't have to be a former
Speaker 3: scout to figure this out. Go watch him play. There
Speaker 3: are things about him that you see that he's better
Speaker 3: than the guy playing next to him in those games.
Speaker 3: So that's that's my two cents about Mazie Smith. Is
Speaker 3: he is he is? He is? He is he a
Speaker 3: perfect player right now? Absolutely not, But he is not
Speaker 3: the bust that everybody thinks he is.
Speaker 6: I think it is fair like we do get frustrated
Speaker 6: at times because we have set our own expectations of
Speaker 6: him and sometimes and that is quote unquote to be expected.
Speaker 6: When you draft a first round pick, you expect them
Speaker 6: to be the guy right away, step on that feel
Speaker 6: and not have any issues being pactful, and the reality
Speaker 6: is not everyone can do that. We see how big
Speaker 6: of a change there is between year one and year
Speaker 6: two with these guys, their bod is how much they learn,
Speaker 6: how much they changed throughout. And to be fair, he
Speaker 6: wasn't drafted to be the main guy just yet. They
Speaker 6: hide they had signed Jonathan Hankins back on the team,
Speaker 6: and Mazzi, I think he's shown he started to show
Speaker 6: some improvement. Like Brian said, he's not perfect, and I
Speaker 6: don't think he's gonna be for what's left of the season,
Speaker 6: but I do believe that he's gonna be so much
Speaker 6: better next year. He's gonna he's gonna grow from this
Speaker 6: and be a better player and become hopefully the type
Speaker 6: of player that the Cowboys drafted him to be. But
Speaker 6: right now, I get it, fans get mad, but it's
Speaker 6: it's early. It's early to say or call him a
Speaker 6: bust because you can't just call someone a bust on
Speaker 6: year one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's but that's the that's the world we
Speaker 3: live in. Yes, and hey, I get it, fans, I
Speaker 3: totally I understand where you're coming from. You're frustrated, your
Speaker 3: your team got gashed bad, and you're thinking, well, why
Speaker 3: do you draft a guy he's supposed to be a
Speaker 3: run to. I could deal with him not getting sacks.
Speaker 3: But but look where the ball was run. The ball
Speaker 3: wasn't if you if you if you look at the metrics,
Speaker 3: the ball I said it to you left outside ten
Speaker 3: carries eighty two yards. That's that's not at Mizzy Smith.
Speaker 3: You know, maybe a little bit of that with Mozzie
Speaker 3: Smith and those guys are the tackles. But Mozzie Smith
Speaker 3: was not the problem in that game the other day
Speaker 3: you had it was there was a he was part
Speaker 3: of Was he the main problem?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Was he part of the problem. Sure, if you want
Speaker 3: to put it on, if you want to put it
Speaker 3: on the defense for how they played, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question because I've heard a
Speaker 5: couple of people mention this, and I think it's at
Speaker 5: least a fair thought, right, is do you put blame
Speaker 5: on the defensive tackles and Mozzie being a part of that.
Speaker 5: More from a standpoint that you know, when you have
Speaker 5: these safeties playing down in the box, they cannot handle
Speaker 5: a three hundred pounds of that guy's onto them. Are
Speaker 5: the tackles not doing enough to keep those linebackers free
Speaker 5: so they can flow to the ball and maybe that
Speaker 5: would stop some of those outside runs.
Speaker 3: I think the fact is that you talk about keeping
Speaker 3: free free is about your ability to go run and
Speaker 3: you know, and and so what happens is you get
Speaker 3: linebackers or these safeties that are playing linebacker, maybe they
Speaker 3: need to flow a little faster when you're not. When
Speaker 3: you're a sad about recognition. Yes you're down there playing
Speaker 3: safety or a safety and you're playing linebacker. There's different
Speaker 3: site lines that you have White guys like Sean Lee,
Speaker 3: Leighton vandersh those guys, you know why they anticipated play.
Speaker 3: They saw what The guy that can anticipate plays and
Speaker 3: sometimes it's too aggressive is Donovan Wilson. You put Donovan
Speaker 3: Wilson down there, sometimes he's overly aggressive running to the football.
Speaker 3: So sometimes you know, if you hesitate, If you hesitate
Speaker 3: even a split second. Playing linebacker, they're gonna find a
Speaker 3: way to block you no matter who gets how you're
Speaker 3: holding up. Guys, it's not all combination blocks getting to
Speaker 3: the second level. That's not you know. You know when
Speaker 3: you play as a when you play as a one technique,
Speaker 3: you know you're sitting there holding blocks. But you play
Speaker 3: as the three, you're trying to kind of get up
Speaker 3: to fit. You're not holding blocks because they could the
Speaker 3: guard can the guard can take you, and then you
Speaker 3: know the backside center can get up. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different things. It's not all about
Speaker 3: just holding up blocks inside. It's about anticipation and seeing
Speaker 3: where the ball's going and getting to the ball. And
Speaker 3: they've had problems with that with these with these safeties
Speaker 3: playing his linebackers, it's tough for them, asking a lot
Speaker 3: for them to do in that situation.
Speaker 5: Talking about Damone Clark.
Speaker 3: He's he has not done as well as I thought
Speaker 3: he was gonna do. I thought that I think last
Speaker 3: year da Moone Clark. For him to come off the
Speaker 3: injury that he did and play the way that he
Speaker 3: did and come back with Layton vandersh he was clearly
Speaker 3: a better player when he you know, when he when
Speaker 3: he had with without Layton vander esh Uh. It's I
Speaker 3: think it's been a struggle for him. I think he
Speaker 3: doesn't see the I don't think he always reads the
Speaker 3: play correctly. I don't think he reached the scheme in
Speaker 3: front of him correctly. I don't think he anticipates fast enough.
Speaker 3: He could be a guy that wins and he gets
Speaker 3: in space, he can make a tackle, he can be physical.
Speaker 3: But the problem is though he appears to play lost
Speaker 3: more than he does having the awareness of what he
Speaker 3: needs to do in the scheme. That's an issue. You
Speaker 3: can talk about holding up blocks all day, like I
Speaker 3: was talking about, but if you don't have the anticipation
Speaker 3: to read the play, to get downhill, to make the tackle,
Speaker 3: to knife through, to be that type of a football player,
Speaker 3: you're not going to win at that level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's such a talented player, but again expectations, our
Speaker 6: expectations were different in thinking that he could become a
Speaker 6: lead role. Not everyone can be at the wrong blend.
Speaker 6: Not everyone can step into a higher role where you're
Speaker 6: asking more of them and be successful at it. Sometimes
Speaker 6: there are just leading roles and you're just part of
Speaker 6: the cast supporting everybody else. And I think the only
Speaker 6: thing that I'm going back to in justifying or giving
Speaker 6: them some grace is because of all the injuries that
Speaker 6: the defense has suffered. You talk about all the different
Speaker 6: things that you're having to ask all these other guys
Speaker 6: and having to make up for what's already missing on
Speaker 6: the field, and that's tough to do. So that's the
Speaker 6: only thing. But absolutely don't we did have even going
Speaker 6: back to last year, him coming back so quickly from
Speaker 6: the injury, him playing the way that he was playing,
Speaker 6: I think it would be fair to say that right
Speaker 6: now we would be or I was expecting to see
Speaker 6: him shine better a lot more right now.
Speaker 3: I thought year in two, I thought year two they
Speaker 3: was going to take that jump, and it hasn't. He's
Speaker 3: actually he's actually probably in my mind, gone down a
Speaker 3: couple of notches from where he was playing.
Speaker 5: Is any of that about health? Is there is there any.
Speaker 3: I don't know? I mean to me, when you watch
Speaker 3: him play, he looks like a healthy player out there.
Speaker 3: I just think I think there's some things that with
Speaker 3: instinct awareness understanding. Sometimes at linebacker you have to be
Speaker 3: a good guesser. Sometimes you have to take a gamble
Speaker 3: that Okay, I'm gonna shoot this gap and it's gonna work.
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen any of that from him.
Speaker 5: And so and I do remember, like I think all
Speaker 5: of us were very excited about I was very wished
Speaker 5: to guy, but also watching him play a college you're like,
Speaker 5: this guy is a playmaker. He can make that's exactly right,
Speaker 5: and you just haven't seen that happen yet. And uh,
Speaker 5: and I'm hopeful that that that's just a matter of
Speaker 5: he's got to get acclimated to the game. And it
Speaker 5: even goes back to the point you were making about
Speaker 5: being able to anticipate. It's hard to expect that Bell
Speaker 5: would have that linebacker anticipation and that I that a
Speaker 5: linebacker has to have when he's never played linebacker.
Speaker 3: He's having to learn he can run. He could run.
Speaker 3: And the one thing that Bell will do is he
Speaker 3: if he sees it, he will go. And I think
Speaker 3: with Clark Clark, there's that little bit of hesitation. You
Speaker 3: can't have that hesitation and play linebacker in this league.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say even with Layton, it took him
Speaker 6: about maybe two years because I know he had a
Speaker 6: great first year starting out and then in the in
Speaker 6: between when shan Lee came back and all that, and
Speaker 6: he kind of lost that and you watched his name
Speaker 6: his game, and not to compare him to Sean Lee,
Speaker 6: but Shanlee was great at it with just guessing and
Speaker 6: anticipating and going for it before you know, just knowing
Speaker 6: where to go or guess where the play was going.
Speaker 6: And you saw that a lot in Layton, so him
Speaker 6: lacking that kind of skill or trade, but then eventually
Speaker 6: he found it and he got better at it even
Speaker 6: when he was playing still, you saw him be such
Speaker 6: a such a better player within the maturity of it.
Speaker 6: It's more of just the knowledge and being out there,
Speaker 6: the amount of snaps that you're out there, the amount
Speaker 6: of time that you're out there. It comes with the
Speaker 6: years of experience and being a veteran.
Speaker 5: All right, I got three more names for you an
Speaker 5: album and take them all in one category. Carl Davis
Speaker 5: also DIGGI Zua Neville Gallimore. I know you mentioned the
Speaker 5: title and then the defensive tackles. What were your thoughts
Speaker 5: on how they played in that game and where they
Speaker 5: can be better going into this next Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Problem was I thought this was OS's worst game by
Speaker 3: far there was he was not. He He didn't where
Speaker 3: he usually is winning is off the off the line,
Speaker 3: and they were They handled him very well. The blocking schemes,
Speaker 3: the combination blocks, the single blocks, they handled him in
Speaker 3: this game. He got up field a couple of times,
Speaker 3: went past to play, you know, and he wasn't able
Speaker 3: to redirect back to get a play. Carl David started
Speaker 3: off really poor in the game, matter of fact, very
Speaker 3: for one of the first plays he's in he went
Speaker 3: to the ground. He got better the last say three
Speaker 3: or four plays that he played in the game that
Speaker 3: he had to go in there and play. There was
Speaker 3: a little bit better movement, a little bit better you
Speaker 3: talk about taking on blocks. He was able to grab
Speaker 3: a couple of guys and kind of free some guys
Speaker 3: up running to the ball. Gallimore had to tackle along
Speaker 3: the sidelines that I remember where he got to the
Speaker 3: outside and actually chased the play, But didn't play a
Speaker 3: whole heck of a lot. I just think overall, the
Speaker 3: defensive tackle groups as a whole was nowhere where it
Speaker 3: needed to be. They to win inside this week with
Speaker 3: the configuration that the Dolphins have, if they don't they're
Speaker 3: going to probably lose this football game, but they're capable
Speaker 3: of playing well against this inside three for the Dolphins.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, if you were to give if you're
Speaker 6: going based off this game against Buffalo, there's nothing positive
Speaker 6: you can say because it was an absolute domination against them.
Speaker 6: So there's absolutely nothing that I can recall that was good.
Speaker 6: But Neville and Osa, they've shown that they can be
Speaker 6: really good, that they are talented player. Osa. I absolutely
Speaker 6: love the way he plays, and to me, I don't
Speaker 6: see that being kind of the standard of the level
Speaker 6: of play. So I don't know. I think that they're
Speaker 6: talented player. This was a bad game, and I hope
Speaker 6: they can bounce back. Carl, I'll be honest, I haven't
Speaker 6: seen a whole lot of him, and the couple of
Speaker 6: plays that I did see where I was specifically just
Speaker 6: watching him, it didn't impress. Just looked like someone that
Speaker 6: just kind of kind of knew to being out there
Speaker 6: on the field right there with everybody else. So let's
Speaker 6: give it some time and see what they've been working
Speaker 6: on this week and see how they can.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the movement that Hankins has. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: more of a stationary type of a player. You missed
Speaker 3: that with Hankins and his ability to play down the line,
Speaker 3: Davis doesn't give you.
Speaker 5: That real quick Before we end the show, Janie Thomas,
Speaker 5: what do we see from him? He did have a
Speaker 5: more pronounced role this week, seem him.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I was watching with him though.
Speaker 3: To me, there was a couple of times with the
Speaker 3: ball he's coming downhill forced the ball out of bounds.
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to be more of a
Speaker 3: physical player in this game. I think he was worried
Speaker 3: about everybody was kind of worried about Buffalo and the
Speaker 3: potential of throwing the football, But then it turned into
Speaker 3: just a running game. I thought he needed to be
Speaker 3: more involved going downhill and making plays. And you know
Speaker 3: that that was just a kind of a little bit
Speaker 3: of a hit and miss thing for him. It wasn't
Speaker 3: that game where I thought he could have shown up
Speaker 3: and been a big presence. It just didn't work out
Speaker 3: for him that way.
Speaker 6: The one thing I like on him and I think,
Speaker 6: and again I wouldn't be able to list everybody like
Speaker 6: the fastest player in.
Speaker 3: The whole list quick.
Speaker 6: He is a fast guy and I think he can
Speaker 6: bring some of that speed that maybe sometimes you're lacking
Speaker 6: on the secondary. So that's one aspect of his game
Speaker 6: that I do like, and I think he can find
Speaker 6: and take advantage of that part. But yeah, like you said, Brian,
Speaker 6: there's still a lot of stuff that he hasn't been
Speaker 6: out there that much, so you still you're seeing that happen,
Speaker 6: and it's unfair to kind of mega criticize him when
Speaker 6: he hasn't given that been given that whole amount of chance.
Speaker 6: Just yet.
Speaker 5: All right, we appreciate you, guys. Jonas, We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 5: We'll wrap this thing up. I'm sorry, tomorrow. No, we'll
Speaker 5: get into the Dolphins defense defense versus the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's Friday already.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, guys. Joan to back tomorrow for Brian
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