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Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for The

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Speaker 1: Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Ambar Garcia, Brian

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, December twentieth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number ninety two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 5: The Break. We are live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 5: At the start a day, we start getting ready for

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Speaker 5: Cowboys versus Dolphins that's happening this Sunday at.

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Speaker 3: Three twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a kick in Miami, and so we'll

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Speaker 5: get into this Miami offense and how it matches up

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Speaker 5: versus this Dallas defense, and well we can expect a

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Speaker 5: little different outcome as far as how the defense plays

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Speaker 5: this week versus last week.

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Speaker 3: Got a good shot.

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Speaker 5: I want to start first, though Patrick's not with us

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Speaker 5: today and usually gives assist, but Brian, I'm sure you

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Speaker 5: have this information as well. I want to start with

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Speaker 5: some injuries and just kind of where we're like set

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Speaker 5: the table for where we are with the injuries. I

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Speaker 5: want to start first with Zach Martin because he left

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Speaker 5: the game noticeable absence for the Cowboys obviously, but what

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Speaker 5: are we hearing about his injury and what kind of

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Speaker 5: time he may or may not miss.

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing that you always worry about, because last

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Speaker 3: week we talked about what Hookers situation, and they felt

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Speaker 3: good about Hooker all the way up until game time,

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Speaker 3: and then it was well that the ankle didn't respond

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Speaker 3: fully like we thought it would. So all the things

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Speaker 3: you're hearing about Zach Martin are positive. We've also, you know,

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Speaker 3: on one O five three the Fan, we have the

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin Show every Thursday at five, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you try and ask him questions. He's usually fourth, right,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm playing in all that, and then we

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Speaker 3: get to the game and then Christy Scales tells us, oh,

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Speaker 3: he's inactive today, So everything is positive from that standpoint.

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Speaker 3: We'll see the practice designations and all that. These are

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Speaker 3: these things with you know, with Jerry Jones was on

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Speaker 3: talking about the you know what you deal with the

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Speaker 3: and all those things that you have to but all

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Speaker 3: the indications were that he is getting better every day.

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Speaker 3: Now let's see if that translates into Zach Martin playing

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Speaker 3: against the Miami Dolphins. I feel by by Friday, you

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Speaker 3: should have a pretty good understanding of really where he's at.

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Speaker 5: What do we know about at this point. Obviously Mollie

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Speaker 5: Cooker was one, as you.

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Speaker 3: Mentioned, and they thought they thought that was that one.

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Speaker 3: What are we hearing now, yeah, that's that one seems

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Speaker 3: you know they last Thursday I was told I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I asked, well, hey, what what's your concerned level of hooker?

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Speaker 3: And I got these should be good to go, and

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Speaker 3: That's that's the thing that bothers me. And I asked,

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Speaker 3: was there a setback? And they said no, there wasn't

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Speaker 3: Nothing against jan Yer Thomas, but there were some coverage

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Speaker 5: All right, Hankins, what's the it was? That?

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Speaker 3: That one was I heard a couple of games.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know the anticipation I anticipated him playing

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Speaker 3: Now, man, how much?

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Speaker 6: How much did they thought the last time I heard

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Speaker 3: Well they they initially what I was here, and now

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Speaker 3: So my anticipation was, or my expectations where he was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it was any guarantem high ankle

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Speaker 3: For a guy that size too, that's a problem.

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Speaker 5: like it's just you just never know how that's gonna

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Speaker 5: work out. How much did they really miss it? Like,

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Speaker 3: Well, it did, you know, it's with wan Ye. There's

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Speaker 3: now you're playing wan Ya in there. Okay, now maybe

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Speaker 3: and so you can't do that because he's having to

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Speaker 3: don't realize the backups that go in have other roles

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about justin Houston. He's a linebacker that got

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Speaker 5: released by Carolina. I know, I mit saw on Twitter

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Speaker 5: that you you watched a little film.

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Speaker 3: I did. I watched him yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Could he fit any role for the Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: You know, he plays as a three four outside linebacks.

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Speaker 3: It's a little different than he's very much like a

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Speaker 3: he is when you when you There were times he

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Speaker 3: I didn't see that that normal that you know, when

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Speaker 3: There were times where he was getting single blocked quite

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Speaker 3: a bit in these games, and I just don't see

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Speaker 5: All right, let's we're gonna take a quick early break

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Speaker 5: and then we're going to come back. We'll dive into

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Speaker 5: Welcome back. It is the second segment of the break.

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Speaker 5: We are live from SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start

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Speaker 5: of the day, we're talking Cowboys versus Dolphins. Let's dive

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Speaker 5: right into this matchup, talking specifically about the Miami offense

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about Tyreek Hill because I think for me,

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Speaker 3: When everything starts. Well, you want to know where this

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Speaker 3: the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Just got it know to me, I am not you

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Speaker 3: Dallas's off defensive line is better than what this what

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Speaker 5: No no, no, man, that's actually great.

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Speaker 5: It actually leads into where I'm going with this Tyreek kill.

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Speaker 5: I could see a situation where Dallas may go in

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Speaker 3: Whatever football God, you pray to stop praying now, well,

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Speaker 3: pray pray to this that you know he's banged up.

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Speaker 3: They get what they call three by one, they get trips,

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Speaker 3: They don't let you double them. He moves around, he

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Speaker 3: If you're going to travel with him, you have to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and bang them around. And if Tua

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Speaker 3: What did those teams do so Philadelphia? Philadelphia did a

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Speaker 3: they get what they call pistol formation where they stand

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Speaker 3: directly behind behind and he turns and hands the ball

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Speaker 3: and then they try and get to the outside. Or

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Speaker 3: they'll go they'll send misdirection, they'll send the line one way,

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Speaker 3: back will counterstep, and then they come back the other

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Speaker 3: and just toss on the outside. They'll crack on the outside.

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Speaker 3: That's where That's where I mean to me, this is

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Speaker 3: where you have to win. You have to win on

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Speaker 3: the edge. You cannot let Smite the tight end pin

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Speaker 3: you inside. You can't let Cedric Wilson pin you inside.

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Speaker 3: You got to know they're gonna want to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: You see a tight split and it's Cedric Wilson number eleven.

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Speaker 3: You're thinking, he's about to crack my ass, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I got to be ready for this. I gotta

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Speaker 3: be able and see that's what hied to Micael Parsons

452
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Speaker 3: the other day. He got cracked. He tried to spin

453
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Speaker 3: out of it, but it's too late, balls already. So

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Speaker 3: you have to play with some awareness in this game.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can't, you know. And Tank's really good

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Speaker 3: at this too. He understands like, Okay, that guy right

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Speaker 3: there is going to it's going to block down. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna pull this guy. I can read his stance

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Speaker 3: right now. Dallas has got to play with some anticipation

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Speaker 3: in this game, especially the way the Dolphins run the football.

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Speaker 5: When you look at a guy like Cook, obviously I

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Speaker 5: don't I don't personally think he has more skill than

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Speaker 5: these backs. Yeah, that you're playing this weekend, what would

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Speaker 5: give you reason to believe that Dallas can actually match

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Speaker 5: up with this running game better than what they did

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Speaker 5: against Cook?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I just I just I go back to the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: You have got to win and you Dallas got penetration

470
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Speaker 3: in a lot and several of the snaps against Buffalo

471
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Speaker 3: the ball just bounced on him. You know, you have

472
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Speaker 3: got to play with some discipline in this game. If

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Speaker 3: you were if you were a backside defender and you're

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Speaker 3: chasing the ball down inside and it bounces around the corner,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's a ten yard game

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Speaker 3: because you didn't play assignment. That's that's on the defense

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Speaker 3: because you're winning on the front side, but on the

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Speaker 3: backside you're not doing your job. So I I would

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Speaker 3: say that that dan Quinn. This week of practice a

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Speaker 3: lot of that. Hey, let's not let the thing with

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Buffalo will bounce the ball. The Dolphins are

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Speaker 3: a attack, attack and then or throw or get the

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Speaker 3: ball to the outside. So you're naturally going to see

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Speaker 3: it's not a lot of bouncing going on. It's a

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Speaker 3: lot of are a we're determined that we're gonna go

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Speaker 3: outside and they have to do that because their line

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Speaker 3: can't hold up in the running game if they have

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Speaker 3: to play toe to toe with somebody.

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Speaker 5: I want to take you back to that offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Where is the biggest point of failure for that offensive

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Speaker 5: line that maybe Dallas can.

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Speaker 3: Expec Yeah, they they gotta, they've got to work on

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Speaker 3: the center. Though they've absolutely talked about Eikenberg the center.

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Speaker 3: He's a backup. And the thing we all know Connor Williams.

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Speaker 3: Connor Williams was a really good athlete. So Connor Williams

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Speaker 3: has got a little bit of that, uh of the

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Speaker 3: of the Jason Kelsey uh kind of that that kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, play with him, the ability to pull

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Speaker 3: and do well. He's out, he's gone. So now they're

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Speaker 3: they're there in a situation where they don't have a

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Speaker 3: second level blocker. He's imber, he can't get up on

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Speaker 3: any can't sustained. And I also think Lamb, the right tackle,

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Speaker 3: Kendall Lamb, those were two areas right there where I

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Speaker 3: kind of saw a guy, you know, center can't get

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Speaker 3: in there, and the right tackle given ground, you know,

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Speaker 3: tank needs to like needs to drive because two is

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Speaker 3: gonna stand there, Two is gonna try and you know

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Speaker 3: he's gonna try and left hand make that throw and

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Speaker 3: you know that's that's affecting him from that backside there.

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Speaker 3: So if your right tackles poured, that's that's where Micah

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Speaker 3: and and and and Lawrence and these guys. They need

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Speaker 3: middle because if you can, if you get to it

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Speaker 3: to get that where he just stands there, you can

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Speaker 3: get him on the ground. He is not gonna run

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Speaker 3: away from you like the quarterbacks that you've played the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna take our final break, We're gonna

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Speaker 5: come back. What does some player evaluations. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 5: some names to you, guys, some particular defensive players for

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Speaker 3: At the Star.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna do a little player evaluation. I got some

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Speaker 5: names I'm gonna throw at you, and I want you

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Speaker 5: guys to tell me what you think of their play.

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Speaker 5: Maybe last weekend we could talk a little bit about

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Speaker 5: it from that game, but also just in general, where

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Speaker 5: are they and what you expect from them? I guess

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Speaker 5: into this game and in the coming games down the

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Speaker 5: show stretch, I'll start with Mozzie Smith.

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Speaker 3: You know this one is a because I am a

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Speaker 3: fan of Mozzie Smith, and I'm a fan of Mozzie

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Speaker 3: Smith because I don't see a bad football player. And

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Speaker 3: I know people that you know, the fan base, I

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Speaker 3: get it. You know you're expecting more from Mozzie Smith.

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Speaker 3: You see what Carter's doing in Philadelphia. He's a first

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Speaker 3: round pick. There's a lot you know where the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are struggling with run defense, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: Mozzie Smith is supposed to be a run defender and

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Speaker 3: he's not helping the situation. I wish I had the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to sit down and I tweeted this last night.

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Speaker 3: I wish I had the opportunity to sit down with

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Speaker 3: fans and watch the all twenty two of Mozzie Smith play,

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Speaker 3: just so you get a little bit better of appreciation.

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Speaker 3: Is Mozzie Smith perfect? No, he's absolutely not. It's been

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Speaker 3: well documented. We talk about it, whether it's on this

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Speaker 3: platform or on one, O, five to three of the

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Speaker 3: fan on those shows. When Mozzie Smith, it's laid off

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Speaker 3: the ball. He's a terrible football player. He's laid off

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Speaker 3: the ball. That's a problem. And that happens not all

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Speaker 3: the time, but there were times in the Buffalo game

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Speaker 3: that he was Actually when you watched him play and

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Speaker 3: the way he was able to get rid of guys

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Speaker 3: and and get and force the ball to balance and stuff,

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Speaker 3: it was because of Mozzie Smith. Mozzie Smith played better

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Speaker 3: in that game than OsO Diggi Zua played better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you played better than Carl Davis, who was in there,

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Speaker 3: a veteran player. You know, there were guys at defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle that didn't play very well. Mazzie Smith. Did he

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Speaker 3: play great?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. And I'm not sitting here defending and it

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Speaker 3: sounds like I'm defending Mozzie Smith. But I think if

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Speaker 3: people sat down and watched him play, snap after snap

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Speaker 3: after snap after snap, you would have a different appreciation

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Speaker 3: for him, or you would say, Okay, I see some

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Speaker 3: of those things why they drafted him. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: defending him, and I'm not defending the scouting staff or

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Speaker 3: picking him. But there are times when this guy does

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Speaker 3: exactly what he's supposed to do and I don't think

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Speaker 3: people see that all the time, and they and it's

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Speaker 3: low hanging fruit to me, and I trust me. I've

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Speaker 3: dealt with all of you on Twitter. I've dealt with

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Speaker 3: you. You know you can come after me at Brian brought

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Speaker 3: his I know you will because you always do, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I challenge you to get that all twenty two

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Speaker 3: and sit down. You don't have to be a former

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Speaker 3: scout to figure this out. Go watch him play. There

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Speaker 3: are things about him that you see that he's better

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Speaker 3: than the guy playing next to him in those games.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's my two cents about Mazie Smith. Is

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Speaker 3: he is he is? He is? He is he a

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Speaker 3: perfect player right now? Absolutely not, But he is not

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Speaker 3: the bust that everybody thinks he is.

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Speaker 6: I think it is fair like we do get frustrated

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Speaker 6: at times because we have set our own expectations of

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Speaker 6: him and sometimes and that is quote unquote to be expected.

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Speaker 6: When you draft a first round pick, you expect them

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Speaker 6: to be the guy right away, step on that feel

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Speaker 6: and not have any issues being pactful, and the reality

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Speaker 6: is not everyone can do that. We see how big

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Speaker 6: of a change there is between year one and year

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Speaker 6: two with these guys, their bod is how much they learn,

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Speaker 6: how much they changed throughout. And to be fair, he

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Speaker 6: wasn't drafted to be the main guy just yet. They

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Speaker 6: hide they had signed Jonathan Hankins back on the team,

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Speaker 6: and Mazzi, I think he's shown he started to show

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Speaker 6: some improvement. Like Brian said, he's not perfect, and I

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Speaker 6: don't think he's gonna be for what's left of the season,

654
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 6: but I do believe that he's gonna be so much

655
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 6: better next year. He's gonna he's gonna grow from this

656
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: and be a better player and become hopefully the type

657
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 6: of player that the Cowboys drafted him to be. But

658
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 6: right now, I get it, fans get mad, but it's

659
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 6: it's early. It's early to say or call him a

660
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 6: bust because you can't just call someone a bust on

661
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 6: year one.

662
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's but that's the that's the world we

663
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: live in. Yes, and hey, I get it, fans, I

664
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: totally I understand where you're coming from. You're frustrated, your

665
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: your team got gashed bad, and you're thinking, well, why

666
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: do you draft a guy he's supposed to be a

667
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: run to. I could deal with him not getting sacks.

668
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: But but look where the ball was run. The ball

669
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: wasn't if you if you if you look at the metrics,

670
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: the ball I said it to you left outside ten

671
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: carries eighty two yards. That's that's not at Mizzy Smith.

672
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: You know, maybe a little bit of that with Mozzie

673
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: Smith and those guys are the tackles. But Mozzie Smith

674
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: was not the problem in that game the other day

675
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: you had it was there was a he was part

676
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: of Was he the main problem?

677
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: No?

678
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: Was he part of the problem. Sure, if you want

679
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: to put it on, if you want to put it

680
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: on the defense for how they played, yeah, absolutely.

681
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question because I've heard a

682
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: couple of people mention this, and I think it's at

683
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: least a fair thought, right, is do you put blame

684
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: on the defensive tackles and Mozzie being a part of that.

685
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: More from a standpoint that you know, when you have

686
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: these safeties playing down in the box, they cannot handle

687
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: a three hundred pounds of that guy's onto them. Are

688
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 5: the tackles not doing enough to keep those linebackers free

689
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: so they can flow to the ball and maybe that

690
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: would stop some of those outside runs.

691
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: I think the fact is that you talk about keeping

692
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 3: free free is about your ability to go run and

693
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: you know, and and so what happens is you get

694
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: linebackers or these safeties that are playing linebacker, maybe they

695
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 3: need to flow a little faster when you're not. When

696
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: you're a sad about recognition. Yes you're down there playing

697
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: safety or a safety and you're playing linebacker. There's different

698
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: site lines that you have White guys like Sean Lee,

699
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: Leighton vandersh those guys, you know why they anticipated play.

700
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: They saw what The guy that can anticipate plays and

701
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: sometimes it's too aggressive is Donovan Wilson. You put Donovan

702
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Wilson down there, sometimes he's overly aggressive running to the football.

703
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: So sometimes you know, if you hesitate, If you hesitate

704
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: even a split second. Playing linebacker, they're gonna find a

705
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: way to block you no matter who gets how you're

706
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: holding up. Guys, it's not all combination blocks getting to

707
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: the second level. That's not you know. You know when

708
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: you play as a when you play as a one technique,

709
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: you know you're sitting there holding blocks. But you play

710
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: as the three, you're trying to kind of get up

711
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: to fit. You're not holding blocks because they could the

712
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: guard can the guard can take you, and then you

713
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: know the backside center can get up. I mean, it's

714
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different things. It's not all about

715
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: just holding up blocks inside. It's about anticipation and seeing

716
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: where the ball's going and getting to the ball. And

717
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: they've had problems with that with these with these safeties

718
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: playing his linebackers, it's tough for them, asking a lot

719
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: for them to do in that situation.

720
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: Talking about Damone Clark.

721
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: He's he has not done as well as I thought

722
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: he was gonna do. I thought that I think last

723
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: year da Moone Clark. For him to come off the

724
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: injury that he did and play the way that he

725
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: did and come back with Layton vandersh he was clearly

726
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: a better player when he you know, when he when

727
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: he had with without Layton vander esh Uh. It's I

728
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: think it's been a struggle for him. I think he

729
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: doesn't see the I don't think he always reads the

730
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: play correctly. I don't think he reached the scheme in

731
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: front of him correctly. I don't think he anticipates fast enough.

732
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: He could be a guy that wins and he gets

733
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: in space, he can make a tackle, he can be physical.

734
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: But the problem is though he appears to play lost

735
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: more than he does having the awareness of what he

736
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: needs to do in the scheme. That's an issue. You

737
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: can talk about holding up blocks all day, like I

738
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: was talking about, but if you don't have the anticipation

739
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: to read the play, to get downhill, to make the tackle,

740
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: to knife through, to be that type of a football player,

741
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: you're not going to win at that level.

742
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's such a talented player, but again expectations, our

743
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 6: expectations were different in thinking that he could become a

744
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 6: lead role. Not everyone can be at the wrong blend.

745
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 6: Not everyone can step into a higher role where you're

746
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: asking more of them and be successful at it. Sometimes

747
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 6: there are just leading roles and you're just part of

748
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 6: the cast supporting everybody else. And I think the only

749
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 6: thing that I'm going back to in justifying or giving

750
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 6: them some grace is because of all the injuries that

751
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 6: the defense has suffered. You talk about all the different

752
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 6: things that you're having to ask all these other guys

753
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 6: and having to make up for what's already missing on

754
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: the field, and that's tough to do. So that's the

755
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 6: only thing. But absolutely don't we did have even going

756
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 6: back to last year, him coming back so quickly from

757
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 6: the injury, him playing the way that he was playing,

758
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 6: I think it would be fair to say that right

759
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: now we would be or I was expecting to see

760
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 6: him shine better a lot more right now.

761
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: I thought year in two, I thought year two they

762
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: was going to take that jump, and it hasn't. He's

763
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: actually he's actually probably in my mind, gone down a

764
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: couple of notches from where he was playing.

765
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: Is any of that about health? Is there is there any.

766
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: I don't know? I mean to me, when you watch

767
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: him play, he looks like a healthy player out there.

768
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: I just think I think there's some things that with

769
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: instinct awareness understanding. Sometimes at linebacker you have to be

770
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: a good guesser. Sometimes you have to take a gamble

771
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: that Okay, I'm gonna shoot this gap and it's gonna work.

772
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen any of that from him.

773
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 5: And so and I do remember, like I think all

774
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 5: of us were very excited about I was very wished

775
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 5: to guy, but also watching him play a college you're like,

776
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 5: this guy is a playmaker. He can make that's exactly right,

777
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: and you just haven't seen that happen yet. And uh,

778
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 5: and I'm hopeful that that that's just a matter of

779
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: he's got to get acclimated to the game. And it

780
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 5: even goes back to the point you were making about

781
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 5: being able to anticipate. It's hard to expect that Bell

782
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: would have that linebacker anticipation and that I that a

783
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: linebacker has to have when he's never played linebacker.

784
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: He's having to learn he can run. He could run.

785
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: And the one thing that Bell will do is he

786
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: if he sees it, he will go. And I think

787
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: with Clark Clark, there's that little bit of hesitation. You

788
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: can't have that hesitation and play linebacker in this league.

789
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: I was gonna say even with Layton, it took him

790
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 6: about maybe two years because I know he had a

791
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 6: great first year starting out and then in the in

792
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 6: between when shan Lee came back and all that, and

793
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 6: he kind of lost that and you watched his name

794
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 6: his game, and not to compare him to Sean Lee,

795
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 6: but Shanlee was great at it with just guessing and

796
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 6: anticipating and going for it before you know, just knowing

797
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: where to go or guess where the play was going.

798
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 6: And you saw that a lot in Layton, so him

799
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 6: lacking that kind of skill or trade, but then eventually

800
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 6: he found it and he got better at it even

801
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 6: when he was playing still, you saw him be such

802
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 6: a such a better player within the maturity of it.

803
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 6: It's more of just the knowledge and being out there,

804
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: the amount of snaps that you're out there, the amount

805
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 6: of time that you're out there. It comes with the

806
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 6: years of experience and being a veteran.

807
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 5: All right, I got three more names for you an

808
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: album and take them all in one category. Carl Davis

809
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: also DIGGI Zua Neville Gallimore. I know you mentioned the

810
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: title and then the defensive tackles. What were your thoughts

811
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: on how they played in that game and where they

812
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: can be better going into this next Yeah, the.

813
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: Problem was I thought this was OS's worst game by

814
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: far there was he was not. He He didn't where

815
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: he usually is winning is off the off the line,

816
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: and they were They handled him very well. The blocking schemes,

817
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: the combination blocks, the single blocks, they handled him in

818
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: this game. He got up field a couple of times,

819
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: went past to play, you know, and he wasn't able

820
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: to redirect back to get a play. Carl David started

821
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: off really poor in the game, matter of fact, very

822
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: for one of the first plays he's in he went

823
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: to the ground. He got better the last say three

824
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: or four plays that he played in the game that

825
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: he had to go in there and play. There was

826
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: a little bit better movement, a little bit better you

827
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 3: talk about taking on blocks. He was able to grab

828
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 3: a couple of guys and kind of free some guys

829
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: up running to the ball. Gallimore had to tackle along

830
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: the sidelines that I remember where he got to the

831
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: outside and actually chased the play, But didn't play a

832
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: whole heck of a lot. I just think overall, the

833
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: defensive tackle groups as a whole was nowhere where it

834
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: needed to be. They to win inside this week with

835
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: the configuration that the Dolphins have, if they don't they're

836
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: going to probably lose this football game, but they're capable

837
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: of playing well against this inside three for the Dolphins.

838
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, if you were to give if you're

839
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 6: going based off this game against Buffalo, there's nothing positive

840
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 6: you can say because it was an absolute domination against them.

841
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 6: So there's absolutely nothing that I can recall that was good.

842
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 6: But Neville and Osa, they've shown that they can be

843
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: really good, that they are talented player. Osa. I absolutely

844
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 6: love the way he plays, and to me, I don't

845
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 6: see that being kind of the standard of the level

846
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 6: of play. So I don't know. I think that they're

847
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 6: talented player. This was a bad game, and I hope

848
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 6: they can bounce back. Carl, I'll be honest, I haven't

849
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: seen a whole lot of him, and the couple of

850
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 6: plays that I did see where I was specifically just

851
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 6: watching him, it didn't impress. Just looked like someone that

852
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 6: just kind of kind of knew to being out there

853
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 6: on the field right there with everybody else. So let's

854
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: give it some time and see what they've been working

855
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 6: on this week and see how they can.

856
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the movement that Hankins has. Yeah, it's

857
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 3: more of a stationary type of a player. You missed

858
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: that with Hankins and his ability to play down the line,

859
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: Davis doesn't give you.

860
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: That real quick Before we end the show, Janie Thomas,

861
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: what do we see from him? He did have a

862
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 5: more pronounced role this week, seem him.

863
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I was watching with him though.

864
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 3: To me, there was a couple of times with the

865
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: ball he's coming downhill forced the ball out of bounds.

866
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to be more of a

867
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: physical player in this game. I think he was worried

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Speaker 3: about everybody was kind of worried about Buffalo and the

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Speaker 3: potential of throwing the football, But then it turned into

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Speaker 3: just a running game. I thought he needed to be

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Speaker 3: more involved going downhill and making plays. And you know

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Speaker 3: that that was just a kind of a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a hit and miss thing for him. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: that game where I thought he could have shown up

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Speaker 3: and been a big presence. It just didn't work out

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Speaker 3: for him that way.

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Speaker 6: The one thing I like on him and I think,

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Speaker 6: and again I wouldn't be able to list everybody like

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Speaker 6: the fastest player in.

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Speaker 3: The whole list quick.

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Speaker 6: He is a fast guy and I think he can

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Speaker 6: bring some of that speed that maybe sometimes you're lacking

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Speaker 6: on the secondary. So that's one aspect of his game

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Speaker 6: that I do like, and I think he can find

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Speaker 6: and take advantage of that part. But yeah, like you said, Brian,

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Speaker 6: there's still a lot of stuff that he hasn't been

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Speaker 6: out there that much, so you still you're seeing that happen,

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Speaker 6: and it's unfair to kind of mega criticize him when

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Speaker 6: he hasn't given that been given that whole amount of chance.

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Speaker 6: Just yet.

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Speaker 5: All right, we appreciate you, guys. Jonas, We'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: We'll wrap this thing up. I'm sorry, tomorrow. No, we'll

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Speaker 5: get into the Dolphins defense defense versus the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's Friday already.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you, guys. Joan to back tomorrow for Brian

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Speaker 5: brodis Nanmbergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleson. This has been The Break

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