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Speaker 1: You come from this legacy, You come from this amazing family.

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Speaker 1: Emily is Stefan, is an artist and co host of

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Speaker 1: Michael podcast. In Our Own World. Welcome, Welcome, How are

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Speaker 1: you Emily? Oh my goodness, I am great. I am

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Speaker 1: sitting here with my incredible co captain Geminy Hernandez we

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Speaker 1: I just want to say it is so incredible because

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Speaker 1: but people are making you super insecure, treating you like

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Speaker 1: was insecurity and it was lack of maturity. And now

427
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: it's like I celebrate that ship and I'm like, thanks,

428
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. How old were you when you came

429
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: out to your family? Emily each other? Know, it's tough

430
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: because I wish that coming out wasn't a thing. I

431
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: don't really believe in coming out, not in a shady way,

432
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: like I think that if you it's a valid thing

433
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: that we needed to make, you know, a parent. But

434
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: people don't come out and straight you love who you love,

435
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: You say hey I love this person, you want to

436
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: meet them, blah blah blah. So for me, truly from

437
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: my heart, which a lot of people don't believe, I

438
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: was just excited to share, Oh I really fell in

439
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: love with this girl because I had relationships before that,

440
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: you know, for many years, but not relationships you know,

441
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: like a learning, experimenting and just having flings here and there.

442
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: And when I fell in love with Jem it wasn't

443
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 1: about coming out for me, it was about this is

444
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: my person, you know what I mean? Because for me

445
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: it was my family's my family and I can date

446
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: around and I can have my life, but the moment

447
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: that I want to integrate that person into my entire life.

448
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big step. And and I want

449
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: them to know that I'm in love and that I'm

450
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: happy and that this is the person that I love.

451
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: So I was like experimenting with women since I was

452
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: way younger, but I came out. I was in my twenties.

453
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: I was, you know, like came out quote unquote a

454
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: k A, Hey mom, I'm in love with this girl.

455
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: It just happens to have boobs. You know, they're great,

456
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: by the way, But she's beautiful, Okay, expect beautiful. There's

457
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: enough to go around. But you can do whatever she wants.

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: But I call her boobs of people's boobs because yeah, anyway,

459
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: she's gonna put me on blasts. But actually Jackie Crew

460
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: said that. Shout out Jackie Crew. But anyway, you see,

461
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: now I'm distracting because I'm thinking about boobs. You see

462
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: what cheeks? What do you do here? Okay? So yeah,

463
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: so it wasn't about coming out. I'm back girl, wow,

464
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: thank you. Um. It wasn't about coming out for me.

465
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: It was about sharing. It didn't go exactly how I planned, however,

466
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: it never does. That's family. That's why we can't be fake.

467
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: And that's why I love what you said about your

468
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: mom and why Jem validated that for you, because that's life. Like,

469
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: stop pretending just because you're a celebrity. Yes, have your privacy.

470
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: I don't need to see you pick your boogers and

471
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: every single meal you eat on Instagram. I mean, do

472
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: you want to do? Privacy is privacy? However, share and

473
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: say you know what, celebrities are not this perfect cookie cutter.

474
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Everything's great, everything is perfect, All our families are amazing. No,

475
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: we have miscommunications, we have pains, we have generational differences,

476
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: especially in Latin communities, you know what I mean, Like

477
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: it's it's such a difference of opinion sometimes and such

478
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: a passionate love. You know. I always thought it was

479
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: so funny that I would I go off to college.

480
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm face timing my grandma every day

481
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, I haven't seen my grandma

482
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: in ten years, and I'm like, okay. But at the

483
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: same time, they have no relationship with their family. They're like, Oh,

484
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: it's so weird that you're talking to your grandma all

485
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: the time. I'm like, I think it's weird that you

486
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: don't have your tribe that you don't write exactly, you know,

487
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: and so anyway for me, yes, difficult. That's the human experience.

488
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: That's the point. Coming out is never easy. It's always

489
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: harder to be gay, unfortunately, because of the world that

490
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: we live in, just like it's hard to be right,

491
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: but it's harder to be a woman. It's harder to

492
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: be an African American? Are you kidding me? Forget it?

493
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: You have to acknowledge these things because if not, you're

494
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: just making the problem worse. There are certain avenues that

495
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: are just harder what we need to work towards for them,

496
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: not to me, And it's better now I'm assuming right,

497
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: your family loves her and vice versa. Oh my god,

498
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: my family adores Emily. So I came out earlier than

499
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Emily did. I was actually outed. I did not come

500
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: to that moment of like, I want to share this

501
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: with my family. My dad read my text messages and

502
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: they were very racy, and there was no hiding behind

503
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: or trying to reinterpret what the messages said. And one

504
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: day I came home from high school. At that time,

505
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: we had bunk beds that were like taking apart. So

506
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: it's you know, one bunk bed at either side of

507
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: my dad's like, I want to talk to you. My

508
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: dad's so scary. I'm like, yeah, dad, fourteen. He sits

509
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: on one I said, on the other cross from me,

510
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: and he literally just goes, I know you like girls.

511
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: Because I had not even had that entire internal dialogue

512
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: with myself, I was still coming from the world where

513
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: being gay was bad, so I hadn't even accepted my

514
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: own feelings for this person that we're super real, and

515
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: it was not good. It was not good. My parents

516
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: pulled me out of school. They tried to take me

517
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: to another school that obviously didn't work because I grew

518
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: up with cell phone. So I found a way and

519
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: you can't change me for who I am. But yeah,

520
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: it was different. But my grandfather and my grandmother are

521
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: the greatest people in my life. They're so incredible and

522
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: like I hope to take after them when I'm older,

523
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: because they're so accepting and respectful of whatever that goes

524
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: on around me as long as it's good. And they're

525
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: so in love with them not more than I am everybody,

526
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: and she's really lovable. I mean, I'm sure as you've

527
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: learned in the last together. How can you not like her?

528
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I know it's not possible. Good luck, she'll find a

529
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: way around telling you. Just wait, got tricks? Musty hate me? Oh,

530
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: you guys are so damn cute together, I swear. I

531
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: was curious because I don't know if if I've even

532
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: talked about this on the podcast, but I definitely have

533
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: in my books. I had a relationship with a girl

534
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: for like a year, I want to say I was

535
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: twenty three, and my mom also went snooping into my

536
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: stuff and she found a letter that she had written

537
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: me and in my house. My mom was more of

538
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: a religious woman and she was very traditional because of

539
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: her parents, which I totally respect and I don't judge,

540
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: but she was tough. She read it and she was like,

541
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: if you don't end this relationship with this girl, you

542
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: lose all benefits as my daughter and you'll have to

543
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: move out. And it was a very because I really

544
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: felt like because I was sexually abused right by my dad,

545
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: so for a long time I had this weird relationship

546
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: with guys. I was like, I don't want to be

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: pressured to have sex. All guys want is sex, you know.

548
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: And I met this girl and it was like this

549
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: crazy as connection of which got each other. Yeah, and

550
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: it was like a mental She mentally stimulated my mind

551
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: and my life and you know, another thing, another thing.

552
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: But I was just like, this is different. Final. Someone

553
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: loves me for me and they don't just want to

554
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: put it in me, you know. So it was a

555
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. And I had to let go of that

556
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: relationship because all I knew was my mom, you know.

557
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: And now we're good friends, you know, her and I.

558
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: But it was something my mom was just not okay with.

559
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: And I don't know gods, you know. And this is

560
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: with my brother Johnny when he came out, I was

561
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: completely supportive because of the experience that that I had,

562
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, and he was fifteen. I think when he

563
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: said hey, because he says that he likes women and men,

564
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And for a long time,

565
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't understand it. I said, well,

566
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: what do you mean, like you have to be either or?

567
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: And no. Yeah, Like I was like, you have to pick,

568
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: because I picked, you know. After my mom said, I

569
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well I just have to be with boys.

570
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: But when I told him that, he opened up my

571
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: horizon so much where he's like, no, it's a sole connection.

572
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: And if it's a girl, then it's a girl. If

573
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: it's a boy, it's a boy. And I'm like, oh ship,

574
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: he totally just changed my perspective. By the way, it's

575
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: not even that black and white cheekies like you don't

576
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: understand how valuable you being so open and honest about

577
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: your experience is, even for just like the queer community,

578
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: in any community, because what I really believe is like

579
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Gem and I have conversations all the time. I hope

580
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: you don't mind I'm sharing this, but what we've talked

581
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: about it before, like Jim is a gold star, you know,

582
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: she's never been with a man, right, and me who

583
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: looks like somebody who would be the opposite, like, you know,

584
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: like the gayest person or whatever. I've had experiences with men,

585
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: experiences with women. And I tell Jem all the time, Oh,

586
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I fall in love with the soul. If I love

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: your soul, if I fall in love with you intellectually,

588
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: I will want to bone you. I will enjoy it,

589
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I will love it. If you made me feel love support.

590
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: That's really how I feel. Some people are not like that.

591
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I get that However, I feel like a lot of

592
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: that is stigma. I feel like a lot of people

593
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: would be more open to sexual experiences. You may not

594
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: like it, you may be like, you know what, I

595
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: actually prefer this kind of sex, sir, this kind of

596
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: sex sor that's sure, whatever, But until you explore it,

597
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: as long as you don't feel like it's wrong, Jim said, oh,

598
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: I still felt like it was wrong. As a queer person,

599
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: you go through this moment of I feel so good,

600
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: but it feels so wrong. Why there's no reason when

601
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: you're having this connection with a woman and it's this

602
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: connection that you're saying, Because, by the way, there's a

603
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: reason for that. I mean, there's a reason for everything,

604
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: and it's all spirituality. But also we are biological beings

605
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: and that's why we're reproducing, and we're on this biological planet,

606
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: and we are just as much spiritual as we are tangible,

607
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: whether it's a video game or not. Please let me

608
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: know whoever's out there anyway, Like this physical experience, it's

609
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: something that we have to keep in in two different planes,

610
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's up to you,

611
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: it's up to what you want to explore it. But

612
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: don't let anybody else make you feel bad. I dream

613
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: of a world where my child comes up to me

614
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: and says, huh, a guy asked me on a date.

615
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a guy. You know, I really don't think

616
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm gay, but maybe all you know, see what happens.

617
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to do do it, and he might come

618
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: home to me and be like, you know what, Mom,

619
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: I am not gay. I really did not like that.

620
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're securing yourself and you know, but

621
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: we are stifling our exploration as a result of this,

622
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, generational which they got from somebody else as well.

623
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure when your mom was giving you that insight,

624
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't even her own opinion. It comes from something

625
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: that she thinks is right or wrong. Which is why,

626
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: like Jump says, all the time, you've got to give

627
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: people compassion and write them a past because a lot

628
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: of times when people are exemplifying those opinions, it has

629
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: zero to do with who they actually are, but who

630
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: they are trying to find within themselves who they actually

631
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: are the journey, so then finding themselves make them be

632
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: like that. But anyway, I went, now, I went on

633
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: a whole tangent. I love it. I love it, and

634
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and now that we're on this topic, I mean, I'm

635
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: sure there are people listening that I don't know how

636
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: to tell their family and friends. Hey, this is how

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Speaker 1: have advice for them. Sometimes it's really hard because you

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Speaker 1: don't know how people are going to rack react. I

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Speaker 1: know that Emily can sit here and tell you that

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Speaker 1: she expected her family to react very differently than they

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Speaker 1: person that you feel closest to, but it's always a gamble.

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Speaker 1: You know, my mom and my dad are very supportive

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Speaker 1: of my life, and my mom growing up, had gay

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Speaker 1: best friends that she traveled all of Europe with. But

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Speaker 1: different when it's in your home. And I think that

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Speaker 1: it came from fear. You know, she was afraid that

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Speaker 1: I'd have a more difficult life. She was afraid of

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Speaker 1: what people would say, when people would think. But I

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Speaker 1: would have never expected her to react in some of

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Speaker 1: the ways that she did. I'm sure she wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: have expected it. So it's hard. It's hard to say,

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Speaker 1: find somebody that you feel comfortable with, because you never

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Speaker 1: know who it is. I would say try even closer

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Speaker 1: in your community. If you're a young person, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: somebody at your school who you feel like is going

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Speaker 1: through a similar experience. Or maybe it's finding a resource

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Speaker 1: online people who are actually trained professionals in this area

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Speaker 1: to help you get to it. Maybe it's as simple

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Speaker 1: as you know. I want to tell my mom, Hey, mom,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about something. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: can you know, go see my school counselor and talking

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Speaker 1: about it with somebody there. Or maybe it's find an

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Speaker 1: advocate that you know you feel comfortable with to help

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Speaker 1: mediate the conversation. It's not easy. I can't tell anyone

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Speaker 1: really truly, what's the best way to do it. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I can say is, don't feel pressured to

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Speaker 1: say it before you actually are. Take your time with yourself,

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Speaker 1: exploring yourself, discovering yourself. We're the only people who wake

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Speaker 1: up and go to sleep in our bodies every single day.

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Speaker 1: We owe it to ourselves to seek that piece and

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Speaker 1: to live our truths daily and take our time doing so.

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, Oh my god, Emily, I was going to

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Speaker 1: tell you always like dude, I get it. She stimulates

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Speaker 1: you intellectually, I can tell, just reulates me all over,

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Speaker 1: all over and has nice boops apparently, guys, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know you can say now, jem I'm so sorry

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Speaker 1: my books. That's gem On only fans right after this episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys are freaking amazing. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed this conversation. It feels nice to

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Speaker 1: just let it all out, you know what I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: just be honest, and hopefully this isn't the last episode

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Speaker 1: that we do together. And maybe I can come on

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Speaker 1: your podcast or something to talk about something I don't

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Speaker 1: know you. No, No, your invitation is your invitation, and

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Speaker 1: we will get you here or we will wait for

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Speaker 1: when you're here either or we will happily get here.

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Speaker 1: You'll sit on this. Only one thing though, che Okay,

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Speaker 1: got you? Got you? Heck yeah? I love that. And

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Speaker 1: for my listeners, can you tell them about your podcast

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Speaker 1: in our own world? Please? So in our own world

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Speaker 1: is sort of you might have got a glimpse of

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Speaker 1: here while we were talking with you, cheekies. It's Emily

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Speaker 1: and I world. The things that we encounter, the things

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Speaker 1: that are important to us. Retelling some of our life stories,

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Speaker 1: sharing experiences that we've had, doing it together and inviting

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Speaker 1: other people to join us along the way, all the

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Speaker 1: while making a space theme because you know, we feel

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Speaker 1: like we're aliens, so why not freaking like and we

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Speaker 1: are waiting for you with open arms. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you guys. Did you guys already

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Speaker 1: share your socials? Oh no, so sorry, we're so bad

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Speaker 1: at that. We're just not connection all right, So we're bad.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to see our weirdness, my instagram

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Speaker 1: is Emily Underscore a Stefan. Our podcast is in our

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Speaker 1: Own World pod p O D and gem is at

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Speaker 1: a Geminy and everybody go listen to Cheeks. She's killing

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Speaker 1: it out there. Please big up for Cheekies. We love you,

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Speaker 1: we're big fans and we love to be part of

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Speaker 1: this family with you. So thank you for inviting us on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, boy, Thank you Emily, thank you Jam.

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Speaker 1: I feel some connection here, so thank you. Guys. There

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Speaker 1: you have it to all my listeners. Go follow them,

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Speaker 1: check out their podcast and also are you guys? We

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Speaker 1: have Dear Cheekies on Wednesday, so make sure you check

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Speaker 1: those out and before we close. You know that I

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Speaker 1: always end my episodes with a motivational quote, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna use a very simple one. The quote is

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Speaker 1: the world is tough, but thank God I am tougher.

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Speaker 1: There you have you, guys. Thank you so much again,

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Speaker 1: beautiful ladies, Thank you for being on the podcast. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to everyone that's listening. I will catch you next

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Speaker 1: Monday or Wednesday's. Do you need advice on love, relationships,

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Speaker 1: health emas. I'm so excited to share with you that

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Speaker 1: my Cheekies and Chill podcast will have an extra episode

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Speaker 1: drop each week. I'll be answering all your questions. Just

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Speaker 1: leave me a voice message. That's a jo. All you

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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from you. This is a production

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