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Speaker 1: in a twenty five year old missing person's case, plus

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Speaker 1: the nanny who allegedly stabbed the grandfather of the toddler

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Speaker 1: Jingles That's, tyler and he's going to share the most

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Speaker 1: and also it's true crime and. Chill It's wednesday, night,

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Speaker 1: everybody so we're going to finally be discussing The Perfect neighbor.

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Speaker 1: Watched we want to hear your talkbacks or call in

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Speaker 1: if you have some opinions to. Share I'm Stephanie leidecker

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Speaker 1: here of, course With Courtney armstrong and body move.

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Speaker 2: NIGHT i assume it was magnificence beginning to. End thank

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Speaker 1: Beautiful and of course we Have, Taha sam And adam

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Speaker 1: and start off with a talk.

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Speaker 5: Pack, hi, team this Is alicia From atlanta. AGAIN i

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Speaker 5: hope all is. WELL i need a huge Favor if

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Speaker 5: you don't, mind can you see if you can get

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Speaker 5: an update on the story in regards to a, family

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Speaker 5: the Dead men's who have stated to have concealed the

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Speaker 5: body of nine year Old Asha, degree who went missing and,

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Speaker 5: Shelby North carolina On february, fourteenth two. THOUSAND i haven't

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Speaker 5: had much information about the story. Recently hope you can.

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Speaker 2: HELP aweso you.

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Speaker 6: Talkback, well, yeah it was a great, talkback AND i

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Speaker 6: love your. Specificity, yeah so, true really so, useful and

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Speaker 6: we actually do have an. Update so the case is

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Speaker 6: more than twenty five years old and nine year Old

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Speaker 6: Asha degree. Disappeared she had left Her North carolina home

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Speaker 6: in the very early hour mornings Of february, fourteenth two.

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Speaker 6: Thousand it was, storming and she was last seen walking

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Speaker 6: Woods despite really extensive investigations by local authorities by THE,

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Speaker 6: fbi only her buried book bag and some scattered belongings

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Speaker 6: have ever been. Recovered, however the case is now considered

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Speaker 6: an abduction and a homicide, investigation and investigators have renewed

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Speaker 6: to focus on a car tied to local Residents roy

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Speaker 6: And Connie.

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Speaker 2: Deadman so who you mentioned didn you.

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Speaker 6: Talkback they were named suspects in a search warrant last.

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Speaker 6: Year they have publicly denied. Involvement it's important to, note but.

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Speaker 2: It's all mad about it.

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Speaker 1: Too they're mad about, it even being associiling with the

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Speaker 1: case one way or the. Other and, again if they're,

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Speaker 6: Developments, Yeah so investigators have seized a green nineteen sixty

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Speaker 6: a similar vehicle seen near nine year Old ash's disappearance

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Speaker 6: when she was last. Seen so The deadman family and

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Speaker 6: they are speaking through a, Spokesperson they denied owning the

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Speaker 6: month after nine year Old asha's. Disappearance And stephanie to your,

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Speaker 6: point The deadmond, family they say they have face fear

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Speaker 4: Announced when you buy a, car you have a grace

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Speaker 4: Because of was not registered to them doesn't mean they

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Speaker 1: It do you took the words out of my? Mouth

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Speaker 1: Specificness, again we're not piling on to people who say

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Speaker 1: just because the car is not. Registered you, know different

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Speaker 4: Car, SO i, mean there's got to be something to

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Speaker 4: like there's got to be something. There THE sbi is.

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Speaker 4: Involved they're not just going to be, like, oh you

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Speaker 1: Idea but and on the other side of, that can

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Speaker 1: you imagine being associated with a case where it's a

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Speaker 1: missing nine year Old twenty five years, later you're going

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Speaker 1: on with your life and you have no knowledge of,

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Speaker 2: Print that's really hard to come back from.

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Speaker 4: and they're OFFERING i guess there's a combined reward of

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Speaker 4: Wow, oh and they put some billboards along the highway

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Speaker 1: Yeah we're working on a different project. TOO i can't

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Speaker 6: Yeah And asha the missing, girl her, Parents harold And

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Speaker 6: Wow that she disappeared between two thirty and four o'clock

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Speaker 6: in the morning That february, fourteenth two thousand and a

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Speaker 4: Correct, Okay so it was found buried and there were unfamiliar,

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Speaker 6: THAT i, mean that's HOW i read, that That's i'm reading. It,

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Speaker 6: what THEIR t shirts? Are you, know you do all their, laundry.

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Speaker 2: Point you know why two o'clock in the. MORNING i.

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Speaker 4: SO i MEAN i don't. KNOW i MEAN i WHEN

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Speaker 2: Leaving but not at two o'clock in the, MORNING i did.

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Speaker 1: Lived were home within twenty five? Minutes, yeah it's maybe

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Speaker 1: Be the worst feeling in all the land is just

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Speaker 6: Imaginable so we'll continue to keep you updated as new

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Speaker 6: iHeartRadio I'm Courtney, Armstrong i'm lucky to be here with

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah remember Yesterday stephanie were telling us about that anchor, woman,

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Speaker 4: yeah who like kind of murdered her mom and murdered her,

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Speaker 4: so she's A michigan. Nanny her name Is Samantha, booth

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Speaker 4: and she allegedly stabbed her eighty three year old the

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Speaker 4: he Sees david is. Injured he's, like oh my. God

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Speaker 4: he scoops up the, toddler who's, yeah the toddler is,

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Speaker 6: Stick around when we come, back we're going to fill

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back To True crime Tonight. On iHeartRadio we're talking

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Speaker 1: true crime all. The Time I'm stephanie LEIDECKER and i

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Speaker 1: HEAD Of, kt studios where we make true crime podcasts.

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Speaker 1: And documentaries two of the podcasts that are currently out

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Speaker 1: NOW on ihet Art, in cells which is. So, great

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Speaker 1: courtney your voice on it, is exceptional and Of course

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Speaker 1: It out new episode, out now and that kind of

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Speaker 8: Well done, hey guys This is Erica From, Myrtle Beach.

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Speaker 8: South carolina this is. Super random but Every time stephanie

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Speaker 2: GREAT day i don't even REALIZE that i. Say that.

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Speaker 1: Too redundant sometimes we. SAY things i don't even. REALIZE

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Speaker 1: for the talkback just the. Right, amount, so yes we were,

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Speaker 1: you know you know obviously, in cells, you know really

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Speaker 6: The indictment alleges that this group has been operating since

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Speaker 1: So now you're a ten year, old kid you happen to,

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Speaker 4: They target these vulnerable kids.

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Speaker 6: Exactly intentionally and a little bit, of background the group

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Speaker 6: Stephenville texas the group name seven six four actually just

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Speaker 6: Young kids and it seems in his case that he

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Speaker 6: Really is it becomes. A game i use that word

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Speaker 6: group to sort of one up. Each other if you

436
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 6: can imagine that sickness, of basically how far can you

437
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 6: push your victim?

438
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 8: To?

439
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 9: Go?

440
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: Right yeah how much can you? Humiliate? That well like

441
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: how much can you shame? A?

442
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 4: Child yeah in some of, the cases they, you know

443
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 4: they'll tell a child to, you know get undressed and,

444
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: take photos and other times they'll tell the child to

445
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 4: kill the. Family cat, it's yeah and they just keep

446
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: one upping, each other and it's almost like who can

447
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: be the. Bigger troll and it's very much a, control, Thing,

448
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: right like look at all THE control i have over

449
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 4: these these people because they're not really, getting, money right

450
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 4: there's no money to be really. Made here this is

451
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 4: just about power, and control.

452
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 6: That's Right And, abigail becchio she's the chief Of FBI's

453
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 6: Child Exploitation. Operational unit she Has warned i've seen several interviews,

454
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 6: with her and she warns of the severity and the

455
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 6: speed at which children can. Become victimized and one thing

456
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 6: she said really stuck. With me, she said offenders can

457
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 6: quote change your child's life in a matter.

458
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: Of minutes.

459
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: The trauma that a child would experience going, through this like,

460
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 4: you said a prison in their, own, Mind.

461
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: Right, YES yes i have to kill the.

462
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: Family, hamster otherwise otherwise they're going TO, DO x Y

463
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 4: and z.

464
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 6: To me they're going to Kill my they're going to kill.

465
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 6: My parents they're going to, send, they'll they'll they'll urge

466
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 6: and really blackmail these children into. Different humiliations sort of

467
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 6: take a video of, yourself vomiting and then you hold

468
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 6: that over a child's head, And say i'm going to

469
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 6: spread this to. YOUR school i will ruin your life.

470
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 6: With this see how your non friends like?

471
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: This, picture yeah wait till they find out that YOU,

472
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: DID x Y. And z you know that's hard for

473
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: an adult. To, handle yeah that's unimaginable on. Its, own now,

474
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: you know. Picture yourself maybe, You're online you've gone to

475
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: a place you weren't maybe, supposed to so you're already

476
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone as.

477
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 2: A kid you don't want to get.

478
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: In trouble now you're sort of being lured by these creeps,

479
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: and yeah how do you get out?

480
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 6: Of? That, Wow yeah and just a little bit more

481
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 6: of how it often tends to unfold it the methods,

482
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 6: of operation if. You will it often happens in private

483
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 6: online forums such as discord, and yeah the members of

484
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 6: seven six four they maintained strict control and to invite only.

485
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 6: Chat rooms and with that then live video, chats happen

486
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 6: recording and video sharing between, different members which also very.

487
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 6: Very sadly then if you are a victim of, one

488
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 6: perpetrator you then very are often, a perpetrator or, excuse

489
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: me a victim of, multiple perpetrators because they have the

490
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 6: video and they have just as, much power and now

491
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 6: you are in their control. As well It's very it,

492
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 6: just snowballs and. It starts it starts with grooming tactics

493
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 6: we've spoken. About before it starts, with hey HOW about

494
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 6: i send you some roebucks or, you, know hey and

495
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 6: it starts, really, nice yeah and then it turns.

496
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 2: To blackmail.

497
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: This is true crime Tonight on iHeartRadio And boddy Moving

498
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: and i'm Here with Courtney. And steffan we're right in

499
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: the middle of talking about this really dangerous online group

500
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: called seven six four and how they're. MANIPULATING children i

501
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: don't want to take up too, Much. Time courtney what

502
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: can what can? We do what can we tell our

503
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: listeners to look out for or is there some advice

504
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: that we can give to help them let their kids know?

505
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: About this is that even whise, like it, you know

506
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: here's here's what experts. Have said.

507
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 6: Early reporting is critical if you know what, is happening

508
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 6: and it's very important because then once you are able to,

509
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 6: identify victims, these brave, brave victims then they, can ultimately,

510
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 6: you know have people put. BEHIND bars i did want

511
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 6: to give a couple of bits of information that a

512
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of the reporting has come Through

513
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: The national Center, For mixed Missing And, exploited children and

514
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: their website is missingkids dot org and you can call the,

515
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: phone number it's one eight Hundred the lost and they

516
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 6: will really. Help you they will connect you WITH the

517
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 6: fbi or your local. Law enforcement but it's it's watching

518
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 6: for signs. Of kids it's a lot of what we've

519
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 6: been to, talking about are, they withdrawn are they eating or?

520
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: Not eating are they sleeping or, Not sleeping and just

521
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: knowing that children are targeted because they are they, are

522
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: vulnerable and they have a much higher likelihood of accepting a.

523
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 6: Dominant figure and it often is people who are looking

524
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 6: looking for something who perhaps they're they're searching for something

525
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 6: that may not be in, their homes which makes it hard,

526
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 6: to say pay careful attention to.

527
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Your CHILD but i mean.

528
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 4: They're targeting vulnerable, Children too so like kids maybe that

529
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: maybe not have a, good friends, you know maybe or

530
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: and they are lamenting about, that, online right and then

531
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: they get targeted, that way maybe through. A game i

532
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: would recommend blocking discord and like telegram from, your wrappers

533
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: and if you have something like the, bar, gap right

534
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: like making sure that discord and, TELEGRAMS specifically.

535
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: I just did after you brought.

536
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 10: That up what's a good way for parents To protect

537
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 10: they just did a quick search and it's just some

538
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 10: of the things we, talk about but. Pretty general but

539
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 10: open communication is a. Key thing setting up boundaries and

540
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 10: modern use is an, important one and educating them about

541
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 10: the platforms and the risks so that. They're aware but

542
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 10: the parents need to also stay up to date on

543
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 10: some of. These trends as a lot of parents sometimes

544
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 10: we'll just, you know not be aware of what's happening

545
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 10: and also teaching your kids some self. Protection skills so

546
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 10: it's heavy stuff, for children but you need to be

547
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 10: aware and they need to be aware so the parents can.

548
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: Guide, them YEAH and, i think as, you said body

549
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: blocking the channels that are invite only and just not

550
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 6: having any access to that because that seems really then

551
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 6: they are their own. Private audiences and also this group

552
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 6: is fairly, new again it's only, years old and yet

553
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 6: is worldwide. This, group wow some members have escalated to

554
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 6: knife attacks and to. Shootings offline there's concern that this

555
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: activity could expand just wildly with how much it has

556
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 6: already in a. Short time so this is just a

557
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 6: very serious topic that we were not. Awares of and then,

558
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 6: you know speaking for all of us in, this room

559
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 6: and we thought there Should, be yeah information, is everything,

560
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 6: you know and we don't want to scare either little

561
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 6: but it's like you need.

562
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 10: To know that sometimes it's a little bit of being

563
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 10: scared street like you have scared to.

564
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: Just, know yeah like even maybe just telling your children that,

565
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: this group there are groups, like this and because a

566
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: lot the kids are scared to talk to mom and dad, about,

567
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: It right like they're scared and letting, them, know, LIKE

568
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: hey i know about. This group if there's something like

569
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: this happens, TO you i don't want you to be

570
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: afraid to come talk. TO me i don't even know

571
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: if that, would work but it's. A start well, To,

572
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: start yeah have. To start we have some more talkbacks

573
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: that we want to. Dig, into, hi guys This is Andy.

574
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 11: FROM minnesota I Watched A perfect neighbor Ahead Of true Crime,

575
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 11: and CHILL and i won't give any, spoiler ALERTS but

576
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 11: i was absolutely infuriated watching. THAT doctor i cannot believe

577
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 11: that people still treat people like this in this day.

578
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: And age in.

579
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 11: This country we could be doing so.

580
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: Much better.

581
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 11: Thank, you Anyways as stephanie, WOULD.

582
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 12: Say i didn't pay.

583
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: My PANTS do i say?

584
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 6: That?

585
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: Too, okay, fine yeah well well that. SOUNDS horrible i couldn't. Agree.

586
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: Though more that's why we have to evaluate Our next

587
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: true crime. And trail my nervous system cannot handle the

588
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: ANGER that i felt watching.

589
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: THIS one i know we'll get to it, next segment, but,

590
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: YEAH yeah i get so.

591
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: Worked up sometimes watching this Stuff that that's why it's

592
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: important that we're discussing it right because obviously it's a,

593
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: hot button and thank god for. Bodycam footage but, my

594
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: goodness it makes me so. Wildly mad so, great talk,

595
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: thank you.

596
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: Thank, you yeah we could be doing so. Much better

597
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: we could be doing so. Much, better agreed we have to.

598
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Do better we are better, the end we, are better period.

599
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: THE end i. Love it.

600
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 10: Thank you another let's.

601
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Go, too, hey.

602
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 13: Guys This is Brittany.

603
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 14: FROM ohio i just want to let YOU know i

604
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 14: am listening to your podcast from last night where you

605
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 14: guys are talking about.

606
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 13: Crockpot recipes In The.

607
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 14: MISSISSIPPI roast i instead of using forks and knives or,

608
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 14: TWO forks i use my hand mixer to shed things in.

609
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 14: The crockpot it does make a little bit of, a

610
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 14: mess and you don't want to do it for too long.

611
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 13: Otherwise it'll make it. Too small but shredding with the

612
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 13: hand mixer is far easier.

613
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 9: Than doing it the.

614
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 13: OTHER way i, love.

615
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: YOU guys i, didn't too and you do. Do, That,

616
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: body yeah use the.

617
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 10: Hand, MIXER okay i.

618
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Ever have thought, of that and it makes me.

619
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: So easy she's one hundred. PERCENT right i don't do

620
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: it all, the time but like, you know most of,

621
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: The times i'll use a. HAND mixer i bought one specifically.

622
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: FOR them i don't.

623
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 10: Own one it, seems like wouldn't it, get messy? Doesn't?

624
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: It, like no you put it in. A bowl you

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: just put it in a little. Like chicken, let's say

626
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: like a couple of. Chicken breasts you put it in,

627
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: a bowl and then you use the hand mixer and

628
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: you just it.

629
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: Shreds INSTANTLY but I think i was suggesting that it

630
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: probably like jumped out of the bowl a.

631
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Little bit like it. Might flattery but, but.

632
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah and you do it after, it's cooked, right right,

633
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 4: RIGHT right i mean obviously.

634
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: You don't it's like a.

635
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: Little softer by, THE way i did buy the prime

636
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: THE uh i bought. SO good i bought, the beef

637
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: but by the way that to, THE grocer. I couldn't.

638
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: IT didn't i didn't have enough time to. Slow Cook

639
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: so i'm doing. That tomorrow so. Great tip one thing.

640
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: ABOUT moving i don't have all, this, stuff RIGHT and

641
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: i kind of like having like empty empty Cabins.

642
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: The mississippi, pot roast so you really don't. Need it

643
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: it literally will.

644
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Fall apart i'm going to get a, hand, mixer though

645
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: because it is good to have that in.

646
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: THE house i use IT because i make a lot,

647
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: of CHICKEN so i use it specifically for chicken like

648
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: brust and not byes because the bones and stuff are.

649
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: In there but like brust, and, stuff yes just shreads.

650
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: So easy if you have a lot, OF chicken i

651
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: definitely recommend getting a hand mixer and doing it.

652
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: That way, all right add this to. My list you

653
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: guys are my life on.

654
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Speaker 1: The daily i'll have a little report on my.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget the. Ranch packet we have another. Talk back, Let's,

656
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Speaker 2: Go Hey true.

657
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 15: Crime tonight This, is jess your biggest Fan. FROM pennsylvania

658
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 15: i just want to let you KNOW that i love.

659
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 15: The show you guys. ARE amazing i look forward to listening,

660
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 15: every MORNING and i wanted.

661
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 13: To tell You, THAT steph i totally agree.

662
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 15: With you my food that is way too much work

663
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 15: for way too little food is chicken wings, like BANANAS

664
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 15: and i will always go boneless.

665
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 13: EVERY time i love. You guys.

666
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 6: Is that not?

667
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: The truth like chicken wings are such a, tall order

668
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: like everyone makes such a big thing, about that there's

669
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: never any meat.

670
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: ON them i can't eat chicken WINGS because i can't

671
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 4: eat stuff with bones.

672
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: In them it freaks. Me out it's too much reality.

673
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: For me.

674
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 4: This is too like a being like like THIS is

675
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 4: i know that this is like AS like i, CAN'T

676
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: like i can't, do.

677
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 10: That always going to think that thank you wings.

678
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: FOR everybody i used to Really love Kentucky by chicken

679
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: BACK when i could. Eat GLUTEN but i know that's

680
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: not even. Real FOOD probably i can't eat.

681
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: Sorry fish, with BONES like i can't.

682
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: EAT ribs.

683
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 6: I can i can do, the, spirits, YES.

684
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: No i can do.

685
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 10: It all That's why i'm making that Face because, I'M

686
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 10: like i can't FEEL like i can eat every single thing.

687
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 10: You're naming SO but i agree with her point about

688
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 10: it is a lot. Of WORK and i have that

689
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 10: more with like lobster when people, are, like oh we

690
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 10: get the whole lobster and, do that like it's twenty

691
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 10: minutes to get to the little people a little more

692
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 10: soul all.

693
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: That WORK but i can't do.

694
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 4: Crab legs it's not if it's in, THE shell i can't.

695
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: DO it i just can't do crab legs are a

696
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: little bit.

697
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Unsatisfying, SOMETIMES lobster i can get on board, with Them

698
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: and i'm like a professional if given.

699
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: Now people like sounds like the head the guts out

700
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: of the crossie totally can't.

701
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: Do it i'll totally do the little legs on.

702
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 6: THE lobster i have a lobster, confession actually and this

703
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 6: was very NORMAL where i grew Up in connecticut that

704
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 6: when we would sometimes in the summer you get lobsters

705
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 6: and you. Boil them well you you'd get them live

706
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 6: and It sounds i'm going to. Get letters we'd put

707
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 6: them on the floor and kind of raise them and.

708
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: LIKE that i wish who gets to the pot first

709
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 6: before we well it was on.

710
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: The floor is it just kind of got. To whatever.

711
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 6: The people who did not grow up with that as

712
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 6: normal are making all the faces that are being.

713
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: LOOKED out i mean right now same the lovesters are

714
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Speaker 2: delicious and they theres, are delicious and then they kind

715
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: of cry in, the pot which. IS terrible i would

716
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: never like.

717
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: Witness it yeah that never, heard it BUT no. I,

718
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: can't yeah.

719
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: It's not for. Me either that is not for. Me

720
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: either let's go to another. Talk back, all right we

721
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: have a fall up From a jess here who left the. Last,

722
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: one okay.

723
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 13: Oh love thirty seconds is just not.

724
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 15: Long enough but if me Just from pennsylvania back again

725
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 15: to finish.

726
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 13: MY thought I Love Bodies.

727
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 15: Crime lab the, other night the way that you explained

728
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 15: all the different kinds of evidence made it so easy

729
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 15: to understand and easy.

730
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 13: To REMEMBER and i feel smarter for having listened. To

731
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 13: it what can body? Not do? Absolutely nothing oh.

732
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: My god.

733
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 13: So Much, Oh jess i'm.

734
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: Blessed accurate you are. Wicked smarts and.

735
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: You know that was the night That unfortunately joseph had the,

736
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: technical PROBLEMS so i had, to, like well let's just

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: figure something out. Real QUICK and i had written this

738
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: thing when because this forensics document had come out for,

739
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: the IDEA and i was on TikTok and i, was scrolling,

740
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 4: you know looking, for like, you know silly cat videos,

741
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 4: or whatever and there are a lot, of people there

742
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: were a lot of people that were talking about the

743
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: trace evidence that was left on the, knife sheath but

744
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: they were misinterpreting what. That meant AND so i, Was

745
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: like i'm going to, show them you KNOW what, i

746
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 4: mean like one of those type. Of THINGS so I was,

747
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: I remembered i, was, LIKE oh i wrote this, EVIDENCE

748
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: document i can just.

749
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Do that so it was.

750
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 4: Last MINUTE and i appreciate the COMPLIMENT because i really

751
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: kind of threw it together.

752
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: Last, minute, well no it, really was because it's.

753
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: So, simplified again these are like big words that get

754
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: used so and you have such a great way of

755
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: boiling it down in a way that we can. All

756
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: understand good.

757
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 10: And also have like a little bit of a school

758
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 10: teacher energy when, you TALK and i, Feel, like okay

759
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 10: she's doing it in a, good way like a good

760
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 10: like that.

761
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: THAT teacher i was.

762
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: Shocked BECAUSE like i have such an admiration for teachers

763
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: like My.

764
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Friend michelle she's just like this.

765
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 4: Wonderful teacher SO anytime, i get, you know compared to,

766
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: A teacher i get like happy.

767
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: ABOUT that. I was i wasn't insulted. At all that was.

768
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 16: Very.

769
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 6: Good, good yeah your teachers are to REALLY like sae, Work, right.

770
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 10: Yeah under underrated and they don't get the attention and

771
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 10: acclimates that they deserve.

772
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: To pay my poor friend she like buys markers and

773
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: like she does a LOT of stem like the science

774
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: and technology and all that for for. These kids and

775
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: she pays for all this a lot of this stuff

776
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: on her.

777
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: Own pocket that's crazy and hand sanitarizer. They pay.

778
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: That's, right yeah support your, supporters absolutely these absolutely let's

779
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 6: go to another.

780
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: TALK back i, love it.

781
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 9: My lady This is lea in A, from australia Actually

782
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 9: In south korea at the moment sitting listening. To this

783
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 9: you guys have thoroughly freaked me out about the sportshole ROOM.

784
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 13: That i mean.

785
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 9: Everything on, the floor MAKING sure i have to tell

786
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 9: and everything and Pretty much i'm just not going to

787
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 9: touch anything the next.

788
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: FEW days i.

789
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 13: Love you.

790
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Enjoy, your vacation endure.

791
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Your vacation glad we could help in your the way

792
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: that happened to me. Last WEEKEND so i was road

793
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: tripping and stayed at two different hotels that shall, remain

794
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: NAMELESS but i had the. SAME experience i walked IN

795
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: and i was like AS if i was walking into a.

796
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Crime SCENE like.

797
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: I heard all of the details in my head and

798
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: all the THINGS that i should be. Aware OF then

799
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: i was aware HOW psychotic i AM that i have

800
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: this checklist in. My head but then, you know we

801
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: had all the great listeners call in with even. More,

802
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: pylons yeah, THE remote i was like using the remote like, you.

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00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: Know wrapped in, tissue paper, you. Know silliness it kind

804
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: of does take the fun out of a. Night, way

805
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: well but don't you guys.

806
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 6: Remember from way back in the day having when they

807
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 6: would do like expose, and yeah.

808
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: And the, black light the hard toppy and it.

809
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 10: Was always like it was the remote that was. Always

810
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 10: filthy another, trick though that someone. Taught me they bring

811
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 10: the zip block bags and then they put the remote.

812
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: In that so. You're smart so it's another that wasn't

813
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: like one of.

814
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: Those gallons ziploc bags or something you just that is actually.

815
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: Really smart THAT'S what i really did because then because

816
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 4: they can just.

817
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Thrown away you're exactly.

818
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: You can you can store stuff in the ziplock when

819
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 4: you're traveling and then unpack it then use that. Same

820
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: ziplock there, you go.

821
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: So smart my makeup and necessories in. Plastic bags fanciest

822
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: carry bags with like, you know for, your cosmetics and

823
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: they never quite fit correctly or they're.

824
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: Too heavy never.

825
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Your stuff gets all broken. In them plastic bags are the,

826
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: answer everything it seems.

827
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: Zips, right sorry a little bit of after all, those hours.

828
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: You could lay down in, your bed fun that She's In.

829
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: SOUTH korea i would be like seven hundred pounds coming

830
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 4: BACK because I love korean food so much, delicious that oh,

831
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: MY god i would be having kimchi radishes every, single

832
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: day Every single that's what you would have every, single day.

833
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: Every day they're. So good they are. So good they're.

834
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: So good i'm a good for? You too are they

835
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: very for?

836
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 7: Your?

837
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: Gut? Oh, nutritionists yeah embarrassed.

838
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 10: TO say i Don't think i've ever.

839
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: Eaten one they're.

840
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 6: So good, anything kimchi, anything fermented is excellent for.

841
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: YOUR gut i did not KNOW that i.

842
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 4: LOVE kimchi i love it and lucky having another.

843
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: TALK pack i can't wait to hear the. Next one.

844
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: More tips, hi.

845
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 8: Guys it's Cricket in CONNECTICUT and i am calling about the.

846
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 9: CHEESE conversation i don't think it's possible.

847
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 13: To choose a favorite cheese because.

848
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 7: It truly depends on what you're doing.

849
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 9: With it BUT if i had to, pick one There's

850
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 9: a brazilian cheese called.

851
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 13: Katu pity it's SPELLED c a t u P i r.

852
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 7: Y amazing oh WHAT do i.

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00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Get like a special cheese? Like THAT do i just

854
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store and ask?

855
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 13: For?

856
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 10: It yeah that one that's a new one. To me

857
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 10: i'm gonna have to look that.

858
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: One, Up okay i'm looking it, up now and thank

859
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: you for.

860
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: That TIP and I honestly i was nodding with empathy

861
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 6: when you said it's too hard to choose.

862
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: One cheese it's like picking your. Favorite child.

863
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 6: But the one that was just mentioned is sort of

864
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 6: a creamy dairy spread that looks like it looks you

865
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: can do it on toast. Or, crackers ally it's a

866
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: try it that. Sounds wonderful thanks.

867
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: Frick, IT okay i. LOVE that i think we have have.

868
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: Another talk it's. So fun, Hi.

869
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 13: There Zamber From.

870
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 17: NORTH dakota i was listening to your episode about the,

871
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 17: vacuum bags the compression bags for storing clothes, and traveling

872
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 17: and they do make some that have basically a double

873
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 17: valve system on the, bag itself so you seal the

874
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 17: bag and roll it up in a certain direction and

875
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 17: then it.

876
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 13: Takes all the air out and you have a perfectly.

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Speaker 13: Compressed bag works like.

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Speaker 2: A charm, she's right it's a very.

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Speaker 2: Need it so when you, push it air only goes.

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00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: One way in a, double valve so you can push,

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00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 10: That thing you're fascinating some of. The people what people

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00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,640
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00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 10: talk backs about cheeses and compression love eggs and yeahking

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Speaker 10: about probably six to eight compression.

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00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Bags cheese so that's hitting.

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Speaker 6: Unknown nerves we're all just hungry and want to, travel.

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Speaker 2: Safely right can we, all agree craizier hand.

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Speaker 1: If you're just looking for a, delicious meal, someplace fabulous

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Speaker 2: HAIR away i love that. Absolutely.

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00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 6: Well listen coming up at the top of, the Hour

901
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: Producer tyler stone is opening up about murders and skins

902
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 6: that left him and his.

903
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Hometown shaken also true crime.

904
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 6: And chill we Are Unpacking Netflix's The perfect neighbor.

905
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: And boy buckle up for.

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00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 6: That one we'd love to hear from you eight at

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00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 6: Eight Three, One Crime True.

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00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 2: Crime tonight.

909
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Welcome Back To True crime Tonight. On iHeartRadio we're talking

910
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: true crime all. The Time I'm stephanie leidecker here With

911
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: My true, Crime Mates Body move in and Of Course

912
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: courtney armstrong. And listen, we're very very excited because we

913
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: finally Have Producer.

914
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: Tyler stone on.

915
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: The show just for a, Little, Context yeah tyler is

916
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: a producer and, a composer but he also composed all

917
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: of the music on, your show.

918
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: And we oh, my god when we got all, the

919
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: tunes we, Were PICKET oh I liked i like ten

920
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: SECONDS in, oi like oh twenty five seconds and it's the.

921
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: Beat drops are you just?

922
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 11: Going crazy it was so also kind of last.

923
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: Minute Too so tyler enters our orbit and you were

924
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: such a. Great sport what was the theme that we

925
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: were trying. To emulate we, were like go for Something The,

926
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: billie eilish?

927
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't it that? Was, due, Yeah yes i'm the bad guy.

928
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly and we Want to tyler hasn't been on the.

929
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Show yet he turned around such great music and then

930
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: we all jam during the commercial breaks just to either

931
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: just spill off some nervous energy or because we like.

932
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: To dance so all of your tunes have really done, The,

933
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Trick tyler and we always change our mind on which

934
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: one is, our.

935
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: Favorite but all of them make. Us book so it's

936
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: really awesome and we're so glad that. You're, here yes

937
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: we're So lud.

938
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 7: Oh, my gosh thank you. So MUCH and i love to.

939
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 7: Hear it and, you know when you guys played, IT

940
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 7: earlier i, was like that's. SO funny i. Love it,

941
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 7: you know there is to hear it come to life with.

942
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 7: The show it's just. Really cool that's.

943
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: So, Cool, SO tyler i understand that there's some things

944
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: that you've experienced that are, pretty, Wild Right so i'm

945
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: going to give a quick overview of like these these

946
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: cases that you've kind of had have some knowledge of

947
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 4: that happened in your hometown that have kind of.

948
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: Affected you is, that, okay, Yeah, sure okay here.

949
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 4: We go so in two thousand, And Two hayward bissel

950
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 4: he pled guilty but mentally ill to the two thousand

951
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: murder of His girlfriend Patricia and Boer, In, tryon georgia

952
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: and he was sentenced to life in prison After Killing

953
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: patricia Hayward, fled alabama where he attempted to murder two

954
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 4: men before being Apprehended with patricia's mutilated body in. His

955
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 4: car Police said patricia had been stabbed, numerous times her eyes,

956
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: were gouged and some of her organ were. Partly removed

957
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 4: what A hand? A, hand yeah one of her hands

958
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 4: had been cut off and also her leg and she

959
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: was sitting in the front seat of. HIS car, i

960
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: mean THIS is i DIDN'T even i didn't even know

961
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: about this until, This. STORY tyler i understand he was

962
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 4: captured in. Your hometown how old were you when? This

963
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: happened and what do you remember about?

964
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 7: It ALL so i was about fourteen years old when.

965
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 7: This happened and, mind you let's just start off the

966
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 7: top that This, was alabama so you can just use

967
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 7: your imagination as to like he has the how it

968
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 7: was handled in just the. Story itself but, YOU know

969
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 7: i was fourteen years old and like just starting. HIGH

970
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 7: school i was like a freshman. Or SOPHOMORE and, i

971
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 7: Mean Like britney spears was on, the, radio right like

972
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 7: pop music was very two thousands were of the. Moment,

973
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 7: there yeah it was like it was movies were. Really

974
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 7: good they were they were really popping off into a

975
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 7: girl interrupted like THAT'S what, i remember and so like

976
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 7: that's like the era of, my life like starting high

977
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 7: school when. This happened, BUT yeah i mean one of

978
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: one of my high school history teachers was also, a

979
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 7: coach and he kicked in the door of the high school, was,

980
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 7: like well we got a bulls we called this gul

981
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 7: and so he burst in to say that that they

982
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 7: caught vigilante style stopped this man who had cut a

983
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 7: few people up in. The, town like and this is

984
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 7: JUST how i found out, about it And then i'll

985
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 7: break it down to like what, really happened.

986
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: You know.

987
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 7: So if we fast forward to the future a, little

988
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 7: Bit where bissell cut this man and and and killed

989
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 7: his dogs was on the same ROAD that i was

990
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 7: about to move into with. My grandparents we were going

991
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 7: to be his. Future neighbors so this is how close.

992
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 7: It Was So, Heyward, bissell yes as you, had said

993
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 7: he had killed, His, girlfriend patricia and she, was pregnant

994
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 7: and they had Left from ohio and she was five

995
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 7: it was either five weeks or five. Months pregnant but

996
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 7: they had Stopped, In, somerville georgia which is very very

997
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 7: close to my Hometown, in ALABAMA where i lived Is

998
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 7: The tri, state Area And tri state is mentioned in

999
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 7: a future thing that we. Talk about so It, Was,

1000
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 7: alabama Georgia. And tennessee so he passed through all of

1001
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 7: them to Get to georgia where he did subsequently. Kill

1002
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 7: her and then after he, killed her he drove her

1003
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 7: over the state lining in my hometown and had her

1004
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 7: propped up in the passenger seat like she. Was alive oh.

1005
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: My gosh and he had in, a panic like his car.

1006
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 7: BROKE down i believe he had possibly been involved with

1007
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 7: a hit and run. As well he pulled off to

1008
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 7: a house like ask, for help but they immediately were

1009
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 7: like alarmed by his presence and they told him he needed,

1010
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 7: to leave so he pulled out A straight he pulls

1011
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 7: out a straight razor and cuts the man across the

1012
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 7: stomach completely and. He runs he runs into the house

1013
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 7: and his two rottweilers go after, the man and he

1014
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 7: kills the, two rottweilers cuts.

1015
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: Their throats he cut the. Rottweiler's throats he's, bath salts his.

1016
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 7: Bath salts this was pre. Bath salts this might have

1017
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 7: been just, Pure MATTER and i don't know. Right right but,

1018
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 7: you know at this point he had he, had left

1019
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 7: and this man's wife had come out with a shotgun

1020
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 7: and fired a shot, at him and like nickedon shot

1021
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 7: Him and thistle ran off into. The darkness the, next

1022
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 7: DAY while i was, in school they. Caught him they

1023
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 7: formed like a roadblock on the highway and they found

1024
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 7: his car and a bunch of, you know one of

1025
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 7: them was a high school teacher and football coach and,

1026
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: you know and, you know just several townsolk and the

1027
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 7: police stopped him finally and they were able to get

1028
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 7: him out of, the car and that's when they discovered

1029
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 7: that his his then girlfriend. Was dead and, even further

1030
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 7: they found like bits of her body like on, his

1031
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 7: person like in, his pockets and then he was chewing

1032
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 7: on something the, whole time and when they finally took,

1033
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 7: it out they discovered it was. Her, esophagus tyler what

1034
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 7: is wrong with?

1035
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: The person?

1036
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: Okaya, Man yeah so when he when he went off

1037
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 4: into the woods after he slashed the, dog's throats they

1038
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: didn't even know that this poor woman was in.

1039
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: The car they didn't find that.

1040
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: Until after so they were looking for him, because he,

1041
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 4: you know slashed this guy in the stomach and then killed.

1042
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: His dogs so that's why.

1043
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: They impossible hit, and run the possible hit run.

1044
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: Run right oh, my god this must have been a

1045
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: grizzly and he was he he had bits of her in.

1046
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 2: His pockets chewing.

1047
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 7: My, god, yeah yeah there were a little more graphic things,

1048
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 7: of her.

1049
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 6: Graphic MORE than i didn't barely, contain myself but the

1050
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 6: chewing on, The, Esophagus, tyler.

1051
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i'm more graphical.

1052
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: Than.

1053
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 7: That wow to add the scariness, to this this man

1054
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 7: is like six five and he's like five. Hundred pounds he's.

1055
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 7: A gooliath.

1056
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 13: Where?

1057
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: Is he does this end with him being put away

1058
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: forever and ever?

1059
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 7: And ever so they got him and then they took

1060
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 7: Him To Fort payne Jail, in alabama which Is In,

1061
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 7: decab county and they took him there and they held

1062
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 7: him for a while because he was guilty of crimes

1063
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 7: in that county which were attempted murder and murder of

1064
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 7: these dogs and transporting a.

1065
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 6: Dead.

1066
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 7: Body right so he was also charged with kidnapping for

1067
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 7: every state line. He crossed so there was a lot

1068
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 7: of litigation and lots, of things and, you know he did.

1069
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 7: Plead guilty he tried to get away with it by.

1070
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 7: Pleading guilty and you know that's that's about as FAR

1071
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 7: as i know. So far was that that he had

1072
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 7: played guilty then and they put him away.

1073
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 6: For, Life, OKAY tyler i need to reset myself AND

1074
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 6: immediately i need a diet coke.

1075
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: And more this is true.

1076
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 6: Crime Tonight I'm courtney armstrong here as always a body

1077
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 6: move In And stephanie leidecker and right now we're talking

1078
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 6: about the criminal Escapades of howard, Excuse Me hayward Bissle,

1079
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 6: in georgia and we are Joined By, tyler stone producer

1080
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 6: and music expert and, genius extraordinaire who is giving us

1081
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 6: the kind of in depth account of. THIS guy i

1082
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: had never Heard Of Hayward bistle yeah me neither, OR

1083
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 6: no i had never heard of a story IT'S been,

1084
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: i mean this is something you woul THINK that i would.

1085
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: KNOW about i never even heard of. This before so did?

1086
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 4: Was there do we know if there was any.

1087
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: Explanation from the cannibalism for this this person was experiencing is.

1088
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: Very rare It is, god yeah? Thank?

1089
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 4: God right but did he do, You, know tyler did

1090
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 4: you ever follow up do you know if why you?

1091
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 18: Did this according to, you know my own, following UP

1092
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 18: like i really just came to the determination he was just,

1093
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 18: Mentally UNWELL like i can't put a proper diagnosis on something,

1094
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 18: like THAT.

1095
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 7: But i do believe that IT was i do believe he.

1096
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 7: Was schizophrenic they they found that, he was, you know,

1097
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 7: severely schizophrenic. Likely Untreated and I'm not this isn't an

1098
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 7: attempt to demonize any group, of people you KNOW what.

1099
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 7: I mean this is just based off OF what, i had,

1100
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 7: you know come to. Find out and his behavior in

1101
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: the uh in the jail was even, More alarming like

1102
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 7: he was tearing the. Place apart he was very hard.

1103
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 7: To subdue they had to tranquilize him several times and hog.

1104
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 7: Tie him, he was, you know doing bad things to

1105
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 7: himself with the shower rods as he, catched minds like

1106
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 7: he was, throwing sefi throwing pains all over.

1107
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 6: The.

1108
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 7: Prison yeah so he and to top, it off he.

1109
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 7: Was huge he. Was uncontrollable he was like, a giant

1110
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 7: giant Man.

1111
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 6: Monster tyler what was WHAT was i guess the vibe

1112
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 6: is not the, right word but the atmosphere in the

1113
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 6: town if there was was sort of a vigilante in the,

1114
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 6: air monster if.

1115
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 7: You know for for the, most part like me and,

1116
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 7: my group we didn't hear about what. Had HAPPENED so

1117
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 7: i guess they kept it quieted to not, create PANIC

1118
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 7: because i, YOU know i JUST think i would have

1119
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 7: heard at some point in the middle of, the night,

1120
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 7: you know before getting into school that one of my

1121
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 7: neighbors got. Cut up, maybe not but it Was in

1122
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 7: it was during school the next day when my, you

1123
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 7: know one of, my teachers just he was opening the

1124
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 7: door telling, everyone like we, got him we, got him we. Got. Him,

1125
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 7: wow wow, this, big burly red HEADED red i just looked.

1126
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Him up.

1127
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: He's, huge yeah, you're right. He's huge he's a. Big

1128
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: dude AND.

1129
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 10: Also i did try to check to see what the

1130
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 10: status is, right now and there's not a Lot of

1131
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 10: everything just says he was sentenced to life, in prison

1132
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 10: but there's no real right so they didn't.

1133
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: Give like a motive or like the drugs or anything.

1134
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: Like, that yeah THAT'S what i was.

1135
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 4: Just WONDERING but i just read too that her some

1136
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 4: of her organs have, been removed and one of them

1137
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: was her heart and, her liver and they were found in.

1138
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: The, car.

1139
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah so he was driving around With this he was

1140
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 4: driving around with. This woman poor this, poor woman she,

1141
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: was pregnant and he, killed, her obviously and she had her,

1142
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: eyes removed her heart and, liver removed hand and a leg,

1143
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 4: cut off and he had her propped up like a

1144
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 4: mannequin in her car or in the car and he

1145
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: was just. DRIVING around, i mean clearly there's. Something, wrong

1146
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 4: yeah you're this guy's off his rocker. Hundred percent and

1147
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 4: then he hits somebody hit and run and he goes

1148
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: for help like he's got this you KNOW what, I

1149
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: mean like.

1150
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: You're obviously not.

1151
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 4: Thinking, properly yeah he goes, for help and the guy

1152
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: answers the door and he, attacks him and then the

1153
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: two the two rot rilers.

1154
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: GET involved, i mean.

1155
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: This is just like, you know this is you bring

1156
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: up not to do a little, slight tangent but curious what,

1157
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: you guys what you guys would do in. This scenario

1158
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: it's two thirty in, the morning someone's banging on. Your

1159
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: door i'm, not answering help me, help amazing and you

1160
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: look out the win door and it's a it's a.

1161
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Young girl, help me, help me, you know she's. ESCAPED

1162
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: somewhere i call.

1163
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: The cops, you know sometimes the cops don't come. So,

1164
00:59:59,160 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: quick yeah.

1165
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: That's TRUE but i mean there's so many situations nowadays

1166
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: where that's. A.

1167
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: Ruse, yeah yeah.

1168
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 10: YOU know i would fall The good samaritan and he would, say.

1169
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: That, Of course i'd want to help, this WOMAN but,

1170
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: I know i THINK you're i think you're giving the.

1171
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: Right advice i'd be the first to be killed HERE

1172
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: because i for sure would have opened, the door and

1173
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: would open the door because we have heard stories of

1174
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: girls that are escaping a domestic situation or abused family

1175
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: situation till they go, to, escape yeah or tossed on

1176
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: the side of the road and thankfully somebody takes.

1177
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: Them in but to, your point that's also a real

1178
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: way to get bait.

1179
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: And switched in the middle of the night and somebody

1180
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: busts into, YOUR house.

1181
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: I would call mine one one right down the street. From,

1182
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: me yeah That's How the, stranger.

1183
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: Started exactly not, everybody else, You Know courtney armstrong beat up.

1184
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: ANY intruder i.

1185
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 6: Don't Know the.

1186
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: Stranger, scarious yes it's like the scariest. Movie, ever yeah.

1187
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: It's really scary because it's a home invasion kind.

1188
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: Of movie oh. It's, awful yeah don't get that on your.

1189
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: CAB scary I, got yeah you're the one that told us.

1190
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: ABOUT it.

1191
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 7: I did.

1192
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 10: I forgot i forgot the stranger it's.

1193
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: The, cabin, yeah yeah you're. RIGHT right i blocked out

1194
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: all the. Scary things, wait Quick.

1195
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: Live, TYLER yes i Love. Love tyler she's in.

1196
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: That movie it's. Really good that's. Very, strangers yeah. THAT'S

1197
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: great i talked about it Like.

1198
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: On.

1199
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Halloween, yeah yeah it Was our.

1200
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 10: Halloween topic i'm still still recovering from.

1201
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: That because it was a.

1202
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 6: Candy comba, well listen stick, around Everybody because tyler will

1203
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 6: be sticking around, with us which.

1204
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 11: Is.

1205
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: THRILLING scared, I, know tyler what else did you possibly have?

1206
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 7: For us?

1207
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: My goodness and, you know let's talk about. Some cremations so.

1208
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 6: We're going to hear all About The tri state crematory

1209
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 6: scandal that haunted.

1210
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: HIS hometown i, Don't.

1211
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 6: Know tyler we want to hear from you through On

1212
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 6: Crime True. Crime tonight welcome Back To True crime Tonight.

1213
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 6: On iHeartRadio we're talking true crime all. The time so

1214
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: if you like, that Song It's, tyler stone who's with

1215
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 6: us right now.

1216
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: Who composed it and is also.

1217
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: A producer by, The Way I'm stephanie leidecker Here With

1218
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: courtney armstrong body move in and Of, Course taha Sam

1219
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: and adam holding down the fort in the. Control, Room,

1220
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: so tyler you've already Scared the jesus out of. Us

1221
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: already so what else do you have from this hometown.

1222
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: OF yours i saw the word crematorium and.

1223
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 6: YOU already i, was like, oh, Boy okay i'm, SO

1224
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 6: yeah i am so scared of your.

1225
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: Town already but if you, Don't, Mind tyler i'll give just.

1226
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: A little i wonder you got the heck out of there.

1227
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 6: Your, art, Yeah okay so here's. What's up back in

1228
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 6: two thousand, and Two The Tri. State crematory this was In.

1229
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 6: Northwest georgia it was the center of a nationwide. Filthy

1230
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 6: scandal it was discovered that at this crematory nearly three

1231
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 6: hundred and forty bodies that were supposed to be consigned

1232
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 6: to this prematory for, you know, the proper.

1233
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: Proper disposal but, guess what they.

1234
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 6: Weren't cremated they were dumped at multiple locations in and around.

1235
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 6: The crematorium site and a Guy Named Ray brent marsh,

1236
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 6: was arrested which, sounds correct on over three hundred criminal violations,

1237
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 6: AND ultimately i don't Know that i've actually can remember

1238
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: hearing account. This high he was ultimately charged By the

1239
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 6: State of georgia with seven hundred and eighty. Seven counts

1240
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 6: so it was, theft exception abusing a corpse you know

1241
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 6: that times and also burial service, related frauds giving. False,

1242
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 6: statements WOW and i am shocked. By this but in,

1243
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, This Guy Ray, brent marsh he was Released

1244
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 6: From Central state Prison. In georgia he had served his

1245
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 6: twelve year sentence, and wow and now he's walking among.

1246
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: Us And, doing god, Guys out he's one hundred, Percent

1247
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: out he's walking. The streets. He's Out, So, tyler okay

1248
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 2: so you lived not Far From.

1249
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 6: Tri state so could you actually like place yourself geographically

1250
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 6: and tell us if you remember.

1251
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: This, story, yeah.

1252
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 7: Sure exactly so as, you said It's The Tri state Crematorium.

1253
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 7: In georgia AND as i said in the, EARLIER segment

1254
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 7: i live In The tri. STATE area i live in

1255
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 7: a small Town, Called, mintone alabama which is In The.

1256
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 7: Appalachian mountain you can drive five minutes To the. Georgia

1257
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 7: line you drive another twenty Minutes the. Tennessee LINE and

1258
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 7: i lived in a. Dry county so, like people if

1259
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 7: they wanted alcohol or, lottery tickets they. Would go they

1260
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 7: would call it bootlegging and they would bootleg it back

1261
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 7: into the County. From, georgia okay that's just just set

1262
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 7: the scene is like the, small town small Town that. I'm,

1263
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 7: From interesting so that's basically. THE area i lived about

1264
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 7: probably forty five minutes away from Where This tri state.

1265
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 7: Crematorium was so this particularly didn't happen to my town,

1266
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 7: in particularly but it did involve people in my town

1267
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 7: because it was the only crematorium within like a fifty mile.

1268
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: Radio sure.

1269
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 7: Funeral homes from all over the area are sending, their moms,

1270
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 7: their sons, their brothers their grandma's your, neighbor crematorium, your

1271
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 7: neighbors all of, Our, neighbors yeah are sending them to,

1272
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 7: this place and they are being sent back concrete dust.

1273
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 7: As remain no so and no one just no one,

1274
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 7: Questioned it like who's going, to.

1275
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: Say how do you? Question it no one's going into, the, Ashes.

1276
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 7: Right yeah so you're not going to. Contest that. You

1277
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 7: know oh that was like ashes, to, Me right so

1278
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 7: that they were doing this a, very long, very long very,

1279
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 7: long time as, you said like three hundred and, sixty

1280
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 7: bodies and, you know he didn't start running his funeral

1281
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 7: that funeral home until like. The nineties his father was

1282
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 7: doing it since, the seventies and his father was also poarding.

1283
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 7: The body it's a, family thing so that's.

1284
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: Where he, learned it like so that he's learning. The

1285
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: scam it's a, family, scam right. It's generational, You know

1286
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: dad got away with it for thirty years and he,

1287
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 4: got money he got paid.

1288
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: For this i'm going to do the. Same thing how

1289
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: do you?

1290
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 6: LEAP it I don't i was just thinking if someone,

1291
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 6: GAVE me i, don't know a very very very important

1292
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 6: piece of paper and said you need to sort of.

1293
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: HIDE this i also.

1294
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 6: Couldn't sleep but hundreds of bodies and you're putting you,

1295
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 6: in here and you're putting.

1296
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: Them there how how do you're?

1297
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: There everywhere and we were just doing this Story With

1298
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: Joseph scott morgan, as well and in, My head i'm

1299
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: kind of sickened about it ABOUT do i want to?

1300
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: Get cremated, One day god forbid or do you want to?

1301
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: Be buried we came to a NATURAL burial i think

1302
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: IS where, i landed only after there's been a, Proper

1303
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: investigation so my body would have to be held until

1304
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: all autopsies.

1305
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: Were complete that could take.

1306
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: A minute so we don't want to rush, to uh

1307
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: we don't want to rush to cremate BECAUSE sometimes i

1308
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: can backfire too in. AN investigation i don't know why

1309
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: there's an investigation around.

1310
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: MY death i.

1311
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 4: Whybready?

1312
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 2: SEEMS, suspicious fyi.

1313
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: But you know so again, like yeah you you send

1314
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: your loved one under the best of, sacred conditions one.

1315
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: Would assume how do you fact check if the ashes?

1316
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: ARE accurate i.

1317
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 4: Wonder if YOU can dna? Test ashes want want to.

1318
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 4: DO that i said that the way things are going

1319
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 4: in the news that we've been, covering lately with like

1320
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 4: this stuff Out of, colorado too and then this thing

1321
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 4: that we learned About, IN mexico i am, Like, military

1322
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 4: Oh The new orleans. Went too i'm going to use

1323
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 4: part of the MONEY that i have AND that i

1324
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 4: give to my surviving kin to TEST my DNA because

1325
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 4: i want to make sure that they get my ashes

1326
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 4: back and not.

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: Concrete dust i'll check out. For you i'll make sure.

1328
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 7: Well you hear something that will really push the whole

1329
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 7: conversation into a completely. Different direction and this is directly

1330
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 7: related to. This. Case absolutely how would you feel if

1331
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 7: you were told that him and his father were actually

1332
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 7: victims of mercury poisoning because all of the corpses silver

1333
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 7: teeth poisoned them and made. Them psychotic because that's what

1334
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 7: it eventually came to determination he had extreme Mercury poison

1335
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 7: it was tested in. His blood wait, a minute he

1336
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 7: was breathing in mercy for years with his father because

1337
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 7: at the time they weren't. Regulating it and also that

1338
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,440
Speaker 7: that particular Crematorium in georgia fell under a certain loophole

1339
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 7: that didn't make it, state sanctioned so they were not

1340
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 7: they were not subject or held accountable to state audits

1341
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 7: or state investigations or state, you know will you come

1342
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 7: in and check, on something you know that any of

1343
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 7: those type of drop ins, Didn't happen and so basically

1344
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 7: you have years of mergory inhalation poisoning kind of driving

1345
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 7: the other driving the car while also. Doing this so

1346
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 7: baffled me about the whole situation is he's sane enough to.

1347
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: Take the money and cash.

1348
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 7: The check he's not sane enough to put the bodies

1349
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 7: away or to do what's right with. The bodies but.

1350
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 7: He did he did plead like criminal insanity by way of. Mergury, poisoning,

1351
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 7: well okay first.

1352
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 6: Of, all tyler. That's, insane however the poisoning that he

1353
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 6: got from the bodies were. From bodies when this whole

1354
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 6: thing started and there were, no bodies there was, No

1355
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 6: mercury so they created their. Own psychosis i'm not dismissing

1356
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 6: that they had mercury poisoning.

1357
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: At the end.

1358
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,879
Speaker 7: Of the fumes of it's the fumes that the mercury

1359
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 7: create when they when they, were cremating when they were doing,

1360
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 7: their jobs when.

1361
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 10: They were doing it the, proper way, early on, proper.

1362
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 7: Way it created a toxic gas that he was breathing

1363
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 7: in and and. Created. PSYCHOSIS yeah.

1364
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 4: I just looked it up and It Says, attorney poston Who,

1365
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 4: represented marsh said he believes that unhealthy conditions at the

1366
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 4: crematory led to the death of his father and turned

1367
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: The younger marsh into the modern Day. Mad hatter they

1368
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 4: said that they had ruled out all the, other theories

1369
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 4: including that marsh, was lazy or that not create remating

1370
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 4: the bodies was financially benefiting, To them but it was.

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 4: This mercury this is True My, heart radio we're talking

1372
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: true crime all, the time and we're here with the

1373
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: producer And Composer, tyler stone who's just telling this the

1374
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: most insane Story of georgia in this crematorium that wasn't

1375
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 4: doing its job and was hiding the bodies and. MERCURY

1376
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 4: pose i never would have thought this when you first

1377
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 4: said In, The teeth, i'm, like well HOW do i

1378
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: because YOU know i have some some fellings from back in. The,

1379
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: Day come i'm not dying. Of mercury, But duh i'm not.

1380
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: Being cremated it's the.

1381
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: Number one you're not.

1382
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: Being CREMATED and i think the mercury has since changed

1383
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: in more, yacent, Times right so that's probably not even

1384
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: an option in your mouth.

1385
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: RIGHT now, I would i. Would ASSUME can i just

1386
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 2: say the word crematorium is also so scary?

1387
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 7: To me is?

1388
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: IT really i. DON'T know i don't every time any

1389
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: one of you, SAYS it i don't.

1390
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 9: Like.

1391
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 2: IT sie i don't like storage, units.

1392
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: Either, but yeah they both sort that's A, SCARY yeah i,

1393
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: don't know it's a scary thought horror.

1394
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 10: Movie title going back To something tyler, you, said though

1395
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 10: that's a, good point like he was still, sane enough if,

1396
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 10: you will to take the checks and do, the money

1397
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 10: and like there's a side that feels like he's thinking

1398
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 10: logically with part, of it but not logically with the.

1399
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 10: Other Half so i'm.

1400
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 13: NOT sure i.

1401
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 10: DON'T know i wonder was the insanity plea a way

1402
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 10: that helped you get a, shorter sentence because he's out

1403
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 10: now twelve years.

1404
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: Later or twelve years.

1405
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: IS astounding, I know i keep jumping on, this bandwagon but,

1406
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: you know something we do talk about pretty much, every day,

1407
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 1: including today is just the level of sentencing. Her, crimes

1408
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: right this seems like this guy did not do enough

1409
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: time for the. CRIMES committed, i mean that's why alose.

1410
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: Loved ones it's. Also sacred.

1411
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 4: This attorney they did this investigation on why because he

1412
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 4: took in like around, the bodies but just didn't cremate

1413
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: this three hundred And well john h forty, What, right

1414
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 4: so but he was doing some, of them so they

1415
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 4: were trying to figure out why his behavior was, so

1416
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 4: erratic like why so they. Investigated, necrophilia wow you know

1417
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 4: those all these different like theories of why he was,

1418
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 4: doing this and they came up with this mercury thing

1419
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: because there was evidence that his father died from this

1420
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: and that he was suffering from some kind of, mental

1421
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: issues so that might have been taken into.

1422
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: Accountant.

1423
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 6: Sentencing, yeah wow that's that is a. Real thing did

1424
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 6: you did any of you listen to the podcast? S town, I,

1425
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 6: Didn't okay adam head like.

1426
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 2: Het podcasts i'd never listened. To THEM IT'S i i

1427
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: this is an. Unbelievable, part yeah everybody does say it's.

1428
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 6: The Best and mercury won't say much more about mercury

1429
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 6: poisoning plays into it in. A, way tyler not to,

1430
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 6: be gruesome but you know you did open the door,

1431
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 6: and man, THIS town.

1432
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean talk ABOUT g i think you're safe, Ex

1433
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: company tyler is going to? Be fine? Was? There tyler

1434
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 2: was there a smell with all of?

1435
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 7: These, bodies okay so not like directly, near me but

1436
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 7: that is what like when the when the word hit

1437
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 7: and like, you know Small town alabama folk got to talking. About,

1438
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 7: it uh it was that WAS what i believe led

1439
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 7: people to the discovery was. The stinch FROM what i

1440
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 7: was told AND what i heard from the, grape vine

1441
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 7: was that they found bodies stacked in greenhouses and there

1442
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 7: were just several greenhouses on, the land and there were

1443
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 7: freezers and they were like refrigerators and they were just

1444
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 7: kind of compiled, and stuffed and then over time as,

1445
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 7: they decomposed stuff even, further down you KNOW what. I

1446
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 7: mean and so it created a smell, that yes the

1447
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 7: neighbors and like like local, official noticed and so they

1448
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 7: went out there to investigate based on.

1449
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 13: The.

1450
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 10: Smell, Wow, wow yeah that's crazy.

1451
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: My life yeah.

1452
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 6: That is.

1453
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: But by, The way alabama is such a, wonderful place

1454
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: so let this not be a stain on this beautiful

1455
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: place that you.

1456
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 7: Come from, but boy it is.

1457
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 2: So beautiful so minus all.

1458
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: The body, pile up but that is pretty intense body

1459
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: parts and pockets and back seats and.

1460
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: For, GOODNESS sakes i.

1461
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 4: Guess this is kind of common for crematoriums to have this.

1462
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: Mercury problem, I'm listen i'm kind of obsessed now with

1463
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: this mercury because there were other INSTANCES where i guess

1464
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 4: CREMATORIUM managers i don't know we're having.

1465
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: Mercury issues it was like, a real. REAL issue, I

1466
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: mean i'm facing on what it is too funny that

1467
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: you bring. THAT up i did an interview Recently and

1468
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: i'm spacing on The actual it, wasn't iron but there's

1469
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: there is some mapping to suggest that where serial killers are,

1470
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: most dominant there's a certain level.

1471
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: Of toxicity it's. Not, iron oh. It's lead. IT'S lead

1472
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: I have i read articles very recently.

1473
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 7: That's.

1474
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: Right yeah and Then the Pacific, north west specific northwest. Right,

1475
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: On actually i'll, Have well i'll reach out because she

1476
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: she wrote an extraordinary book about there does seem to be,

1477
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: some real some real tracking that, Would, suggest yeah that that.

1478
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 4: Because there were a lot of a very specific.

1479
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: Line, too yeah.

1480
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 4: Right in the, seventies eighties. RIGHT correct i think they

1481
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 4: called that Like The golden area of serial killers.

1482
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 13: Or something.

1483
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 4: That's right that's not, my words by, the way do

1484
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 4: not get mad.

1485
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 2: At, me Yeah The new york Or The New, york

1486
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: times like several there have been large articles investigations. Into

1487
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: it it's oh.

1488
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: My god so people that did you know anybody that

1489
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 4: was affected by? This tyler i'm sure. You did you

1490
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: probably might not even.

1491
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 7: Realize it it's more like, older families like someone who

1492
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 7: knows someone who. Knows someone but it was just the

1493
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 7: fact that it was, so close like it's very obvious

1494
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 7: that it affected so many people in just even my,

1495
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 7: small town just for the base on the soul fact

1496
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 7: that there was not a crematorium with any close radius,

1497
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 7: of it so they were really left with. No choice it.

1498
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 7: Was monopolized keep.

1499
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 4: It here we're going to do our true crime and.

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01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 4: Chill next This Is True. Crime tonight Thank you tyler.

1501
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: So much we, Love. You tyler, Thank. You tyler, Thank.

1502
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 6: You.

1503
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: Tyler tyler more to Come. From tyler you'll be. Back

1504
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: soon welcome Back To true crime Tonight.

1505
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: On iHeartRadio we've been talking true crime all, the time,

1506
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: and man the night has gone. By Quickly i'm stephanie

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01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: Here with Body and courtney And big thing Again To

1508
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: tyler stone who joined us and scared us and shared some.

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: Hometown tales if you, have any please throw them.

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: Our way eight eight eight three One crime, AND yeah

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean i know It's, it's wednesday so it's true

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: Crime and.

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01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: Chill night hopefully you guys have All Watched.

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: The, perfect neighbor which is the perfect title for this

1515
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: nightmare neighbor anything. BUT perfect i guess we should call.

1516
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 1: It body do you want to fill us in as? The,

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: setup yeah let's do.

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: The setup so.

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01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 4: Really, QUICK though i want to give a shout Out

1520
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 4: to TYLER because i kind. Of wanted he was so

1521
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 4: nice and. So fun please go follow Him. On Instagram It's.

1522
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 4: Tyler stone did that all one word and you know you.

1523
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 4: Shout Out ROLLING stone uk mentioned him and put him

1524
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: in an article as an artist, to watch so.

1525
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: Fail said he was so an. Amazing musician he was.

1526
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: So fun he had fun with us in the break

1527
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 4: we were all dancing and just a really. NICE guy

1528
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 4: I really i really. Enjoyed that but let's get back

1529
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 4: to a. Perfect neighbor so the idea behind the. Imperfect

1530
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 4: neighbor It's a netflix documentary and It's About. SUSAN lrenz.

1531
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 4: I can't her name is. Just horrible she's a white Woman, In,

1532
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 4: o'calla florida who shot and killed, her Neighbor Aj. Chantrelle

1533
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 4: owens she was a black mother of Four on, june

1534
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: second twenty. Twenty three and, the film the entire documentary

1535
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: is police bodycam footage from start, to end, in FACT

1536
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 4: and i didn't know THAT when i started, watching IT

1537
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: so i kept waiting for somebody to come on that

1538
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 4: was sitting in a chair that was like gonna tell us.

1539
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: What was, going on and it.

1540
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 4: Never happened it's literally from start, to end it's all,

1541
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: bodycam footage and it's so well. Put together you don't need, a,

1542
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 4: Narrator right you don't need a narrator to follow what's.

1543
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 4: Going on so this police bodycam footage shows like Interactions

1544
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 4: with Susan and AJ's neighbors and all these kids and

1545
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 4: all the law enforcement in this. Lead, Up Okay and

1546
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: i'm not going to stay with the lead up. Is

1547
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 4: yet we're gonna talk about it together and investigation as

1548
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 4: well as. Questioning afterward so. Let's go let's.

1549
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 13: Talk, back, Hi ladies Sarah.

1550
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 16: FROM michigan i am ten minutes away from Finishing The,

1551
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 16: perfect NEIGHBOR and i just had to say that the

1552
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 16: detectives in the little detective room with her when she

1553
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 16: was refusing to go to, the.

1554
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: Jail they are.

1555
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 16: So patient they were, so patient way more PATIENT than

1556
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 16: i would.

1557
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 2: HAVE been i wanted to punch her in.

1558
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 6: The throat as our last talk From.

1559
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: The, Bronx Yeah like i've said that in my head

1560
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: like a.

1561
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 4: Hundred times, imagine though for, One moment i'm gonna get

1562
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: out of my soapbox a little BIT because i was

1563
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 4: really actually pissed off. About, this, yes, okay yeah it

1564
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 4: was funny but also. Angered me imagine if roles were

1565
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 4: reversed and that was a black woman.

1566
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: Sitting.

1567
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 4: There yeah do you think that those cops would have

1568
01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 4: been this?

1569
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 10: At all agree?

1570
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: With YOU although i, will say in, my opinion.

1571
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 4: The cops in that were featured in this documentary that

1572
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 4: coming on all these calls were. SO good i thought

1573
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 4: they were.

1574
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: Excellent across the board.

1575
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 4: To everyone they did a great job of de escalating

1576
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: things and playing with the kids, and like, you know.

1577
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 4: MAKING sure i really got the impression that the kids

1578
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: were not afraid, of COPS and i think. That's important,

1579
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 4: you know that's an. Important thing so shout out to those.

1580
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 4: PATROL officers, I mean i think they did a. Fabulous

1581
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: job if you're just, tuning in we're talking about the.

1582
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 4: Perfect neighbor and in this, you know this this Documentary

1583
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 4: For true Crime And, chill tonight it's all bodycam footage

1584
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 4: and what happens is this woman. Is insane she's Like

1585
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 4: a karen, on, Steroids right she's just. The worst she's

1586
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 4: the pits and these you, know kids the neighborhood kids are.

1587
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 4: Outside playing they're not inside playing. Video games they're outside riding,

1588
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 4: their bikes they're. Playing football and there's like this vacant

1589
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 4: lot next to her, her condo and it's not owned.

1590
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 4: By her it's actually owned by the guy that lives

1591
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 4: next to the, vacant lot and he's given the kids

1592
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 4: permission to play in. The, slot well every time the kids,

1593
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 4: are playing she calls the cops because they're harassing her

1594
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 4: or they're being, too loud and she's.

1595
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: A racist she's, a racist a one. Hundred percent.

1596
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 4: And it ends up that, you, know uh the kids at,

1597
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 4: the end the mom goes over because the kids, are

1598
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 4: like she took, my tablet she threw roller skates, at

1599
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 4: us and so one of the moms goes over there to,

1600
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 4: confront her And this karen neighbor shoots.

1601
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 2: Her dead but she's through, the door like, leave that

1602
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 2: don't leave that, part out like the bolted.

1603
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 7: That is.

1604
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 4: So important so she she calls the cops and she

1605
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 4: says they're banging on my door or something to, that

1606
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: effect and the cops, are, Like, okay karen we'll.

1607
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 6: Be there in.

1608
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 4: A minute and she ends up shooting through her bolted,

1609
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 4: locked door just randomly willie nilly at whoever is standing

1610
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 4: there and hits this mom, who dies and so it

1611
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 4: comes to. Those, injuries yeah leaving these kids without. A

1612
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 4: mother they, arrest her and it took a while to.

1613
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 2: Arrest, her yeah she's walking. The streets she's like walking.

1614
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 7: The streets for a.

1615
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 4: Hot minute they finally arrest her and, they're like do

1616
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 4: you think that you want to write an apology letter to?

1617
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 4: Your victims and she's, like Maybe and i'm. Like what

1618
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 4: then then, they're, like okay go ahead and. Stand up

1619
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna cuff you and take you. To jail and, she's,

1620
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 4: Like no i'm not. Doing that i'm not going for

1621
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 4: how long, you guys like five? Ten minutes it felt.

1622
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 4: Like forever and they were so patient.

1623
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 10: With her every time she's, saying no.

1624
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 4: They were very patient. With her, SHE'S like i can't.

1625
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 4: DO it i CAN'T go i can't go To jailse

1626
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: i'm not this is. Not options by, the way that would.

1627
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 4: BE me i would be, Like no i'm. Not going it's.

1628
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 2: Not happening i'm.

1629
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 6: NOT going i guys, watched this you all watch THIS before,

1630
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 6: i DID and i should have heeded. YOUR warning i

1631
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 6: don't recall who, said it but it was SOMETHING, like i,

1632
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 6: you know wanted to THROW my tv out, the window, or.

1633
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: Hey yeah it's the opposite of true crime, and chills.

1634
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 6: True, RAGE yes i was, fists clenched and particularly like You,

1635
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,679
Speaker 6: mentioned taha for how long she was walking, and coming,

1636
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 6: you know being escorted back to her home TO get i,

1637
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 6: don't know a pair of shoes or just and and

1638
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 6: everyone in this neighborhood has to see her.

1639
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: Being green, formed alive unlike the mother that she shot.

1640
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: And killed is a really. Hard watch it's a really.

1641
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 10: Hard, Watch yeah and the emotions, for me like the

1642
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 10: rage was one of IT because i was so annoyed

1643
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,560
Speaker 10: with the, you know of course, with her but it was.

1644
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 10: So hard that was the ONLY problem. I had it

1645
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 10: was it felt a little invasively watching the, bodycam footage

1646
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 10: like when we saw the little boy find out his

1647
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 10: mother died. On camera that that was so hard.

1648
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 4: For me that was the PART where i had.

1649
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 10: TO stop i, was like, YOU know i can't watch

1650
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 10: this part for.

1651
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: A second it was it was actually traumatic to. SEE

1652
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 2: it i thought. So too, actually YEAH and.

1653
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 10: I haven't shared this, a lot but but, for ME

1654
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 10: because i lost my mom at an, early age it

1655
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 10: was like it was sort. Of Triggering so, i'm like oh,

1656
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 10: MY god i cannot watch.

1657
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 2: This PART so i had to stop and like pause.

1658
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 10: And Reset but, i'm like this is.

1659
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: Our assignment we got to watch.

1660
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 10: The show SO but i continued through and then it

1661
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 10: turned into the ANGER so i went through the flory

1662
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 10: of emotions. With it but, it was, YOU know i,

1663
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 10: don't know there's a part of me that felt it

1664
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 10: was just a Little too you're seeing a little too

1665
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 10: much of that. Personal SIDE but, i Think if i'm,

1666
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 10: not mistaken the family is someone involved with, the documentary.

1667
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: So, THAT'S correctly i.

1668
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Think so, and look you're kind of bumping on the

1669
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: fact that there were, miners too, you know so that

1670
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: always feels like we shouldn't be seeing.

1671
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: This first by, the way how proud would your mom be?

1672
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 6: Of you you're just.

1673
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:12,959
Speaker 2: The best.

1674
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: So we're sending love to your mom, because yeah like it,

1675
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: was infuriating, but listen important stand, your, Ground right this

1676
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: is an.

1677
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: Important thing to discuss and, its value and it's, you

1678
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: know lack of value in.

1679
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 4: Other ways maybe we should talk about standard ground just

1680
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 4: a little Bit. In florida so just a very very Quick.

1681
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 4: Overview florida standard ground Law in florida allows a person

1682
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:43,440
Speaker 4: to use deadly force if they reasonably believe it's necessary

1683
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 4: to prevent, imminent death great, bodily harm or the commission

1684
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: of a forcible felony like a burglary or a robbery or.

1685
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 4: A rape unlike traditional self, defense laws there is no

1686
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 4: legal duty, to retreat even if the person could safely.

1687
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 4: Do so so, This, woman susan the murderer in, this

1688
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 4: case was claimings on. Your ground, now again it's so

1689
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 4: important To, remember tah like, you said she was behind.

1690
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: A bolted and locked thelosed, door closed.

1691
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 4: None of the windows, were, broken nothing, you know.

1692
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Like she was trying to bring, it bag bang, it

1693
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: down either.

1694
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: Threatening anybody what you going to shoot anybody that comes

1695
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: to Your stupid it.

1696
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 10: Could, be children, the, mailman anybody but.

1697
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: Go.

1698
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 4: Ahead yeah well and even in the nine one, one

1699
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 4: call when she calls before, she shoots you can't hear

1700
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 4: ANYTHING like i went back and listened again to see

1701
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: and LIKE maybe i could hear like banging on the

1702
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 4: DOOR and.

1703
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 10: I didn't you don't, Hear anything and the timeline didn't

1704
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 10: match up well too when they started investigating about the

1705
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 10: time frame when she heard the sound to. The call

1706
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 10: so across, the board she's was lying. About EVERYTHING but

1707
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 10: i just wanted to say one thing With The staniard Ground,

1708
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 10: in florida like one stat that stood out. To me

1709
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 10: we started researching a Little bit florida's monthly their monthly

1710
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 10: homicide rate has increased nearly twenty five percent after this

1711
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 10: law has. Taken effect so, You know i'm not SURE

1712
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 10: how i understand the logic in some ways about the stand,

1713
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 10: Your ground but when you see statistics, like that it's

1714
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 10: and you see a documentary along, these lines it just makes,

1715
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 10: you think this.

1716
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: Is system's not working on. Either side this is.

1717
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: Not working and also even just this woman forever calling

1718
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: the police officers who to, everyone's point were.

1719
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: Very patient all that to, be said what a waste

1720
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 2: of law.

1721
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Enforcement's time this annoying neighbor is forever calling the police

1722
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 1: for absolutely. No reason even that would get old and

1723
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: as a, red flag like she should be charged with.

1724
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: That too it just being a nuisance to, law enforcement

1725
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: having cops come out every five seconds for a crime that,

1726
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: wasn't committed and then on top, of that letting her.

1727
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Linger around some.

1728
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 1: Of this, was avoidable and it's just devastating for. Those,

1729
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 1: kids yeah this was true crime.

1730
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 2: And, rage, yeah no one percent was in seven this Is.

1731
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 4: In florida in seven out of ten cases where sandor ground,

1732
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 4: was invoked were like the person that shot said to the.

1733
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 4: Standard ground the person killed was An arm so.

1734
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Seven out of ten.

1735
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 7: On armed.

1736
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: That's CRAZY and i wonder what the stats are in

1737
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: terms of people of color and where.

1738
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 10: This, IS well i can tell you that in cases

1739
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 10: where the first, of all in cases where a white

1740
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 10: shooter killed a, black victim the homicide was deemed justifiable

1741
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 10: eleven times more than when the roles. Were reversed and

1742
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 10: also one other piece, they said we've looked up that

1743
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 10: they've indicated that the law may have contributed to nearly

1744
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 10: twenty three percent increase in firearm homicides among black Residents.

1745
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 10: In florida so it's, you, know.

1746
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like it has potential to be shaded slightly in.

1747
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: JUSTIFIABLE murder i, DON'T know i don't know enough about.

1748
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: STANDARD ground i see, the POINT but i, also this

1749
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: this documentary made me question a lot.

1750
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 10: Of, things well it definitely resonated with a lot. Of

1751
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 10: people we got a lot of responses. To, it courtney

1752
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 10: you go go ahead and say what you're going. To

1753
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 10: SAY but i was going, to say people have called in.

1754
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 6: ABOUT it i just wanted to say one thing regarding,

1755
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 6: the FAMILY and i ACTUALLY and i just wanted to

1756
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 6: double check myself to make sure. It's correct but they

1757
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 6: absolutely whoever said the family was. One INVOLVED And a,

1758
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 6: j's mom she mentioned in an interview that she drew

1759
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 6: Strength From emmett. Till's mother if you Guys Remember emmett

1760
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 6: mill and the fourteen year, old boy he, was, beaten,

1761
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 6: shot discarded and she demanded an.

1762
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Open casket so it was their choice for us to

1763
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: feel like the, PHYSICAL pain i got. The, chilling YEAH

1764
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 2: so i did. As WELL so i just want to it's.

1765
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 2: THE mom i want to, say that.

1766
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 4: That's Right Presenting emmett till in an open casket, was very.

1767
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 4: Very purposeful this is the modern day version.

1768
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Of that that's. That's right so see this feel this

1769
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 2: and that, For me oh, my, GOD.

1770
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 6: Yeah i mean the rage, you're Saying and i'm very

1771
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 6: sorry for what you're saying about seeing, the pain but,

1772
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 6: you know the point was see and to see these

1773
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 6: children doing only what everyone would have, been child that

1774
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 6: their children would go outside and beg for what this

1775
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 6: might get. Doing, begging yeah so anyway that we all feel,

1776
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 6: so uh, you know impacted was. The INTENTION so i

1777
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 6: just Say that, I'M well, I, DID yeah. I did

1778
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 6: Stick with it's very well, DONE too i might add so.

1779
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 1: In body, cam footage, man's boys that the answer to

1780
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: a lot of things seeing it with your own. Two

1781
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: eyes and by, the way for law enforcement, as well

1782
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: they just want to have a complete visibility so they're

1783
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: not getting accused of things or, you know show you

1784
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: how harrowing this.

1785
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 4: CAN be i thought law enforcement in, THIS documentary i

1786
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 4: thought They were they were so kind to, the kids

1787
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 4: and the kids did not ever seem afraid. OF them,

1788
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 4: i honestly the representation except for, THE end i was,

1789
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 4: Very upset but prior, to that the representation from law

1790
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 4: enforcement in THIS situation i thought was very.

1791
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 2: WELL done. I, agree yeah the.

1792
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 10: Neighbors and they when that annoying woman when she came

1793
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 10: back to the neighborhood they were trying to keep, everyone

1794
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 10: calm but IT was.

1795
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean the kids were.

1796
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 4: The kids they the kids would run up, to, them hey,

1797
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 4: you know like they they were even joking with the

1798
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 4: kids the police like did you take?

1799
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: That car and she, Was like i'm. ONLY eleven i just.

1800
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 7: Know that was.

1801
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 2: SO cute, i mean they it was.

1802
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 4: Good that it was good, to see, you know kids

1803
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 4: in particular kids of color not be afraid. OF police

1804
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: i thought that was.

1805
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: REALLY good i really.

1806
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 10: DID well i promise Our Next true Crime and chill

1807
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 10: is going to, be something, you know maybe.

1808
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 4: NOT if i have anything to say. About it it's

1809
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 4: going to be heavy. And, Dark indeed, I'm kidding, I'm

1810
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 4: kidding i'm.

1811
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Getting well this again is really Flown, by, hey listen

1812
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow we have a huge. Show too we're going to

1813
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: get a transformation expert with us to deal with some

1814
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:24,600
Speaker 1: of this heavy processing of dark information that.

1815
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 2: We're doing so make sure you join us. Tomorrow night

1816
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 2: this Has Been true Crime. And chill. Stay safe we.

1817
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 6: Love.

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01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: YOU fine i