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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show. We've got a lot to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about today, so appreciate you being here where

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Speaker 2: those lines are open eight hundred and two A two

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Speaker 2: eight eight two. As you know, we are on the

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Speaker 2: eve here.

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Speaker 3: Of a debate, the precipice of a debate tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you how things are looking as we get

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Speaker 2: closer to that. Looks like Donald Trump will also not

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Speaker 2: be on that stage. Not a surprise at all, I

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Speaker 2: might add, I think this is exactly what we had

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Speaker 2: thought would be the case up to this point. We

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Speaker 2: also had a Clay did a sit down with Steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith. We're gonna be releasing that one.

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Speaker 2: Might even play some preview clips for all of you

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Speaker 2: about that. They talked about wolk culture. I think that's

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Speaker 2: certainly something that we should spend some time on today,

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Speaker 2: have a discussion about.

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 2: We have Israel closing in on the last major pocket

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Speaker 2: of Hamas resistance in Gaza, certainly moving along there as

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Speaker 2: as anticipated, these really defense forces are sweeping up the

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Speaker 2: terrorist entity and we've got some other things we want

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Speaker 2: to get you as well here, but I did want

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Speaker 2: to start out here, Clay, because we had touched on

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Speaker 2: this a bit yesterday. It is still, I think shocking

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Speaker 2: to some people that there is as much anti Semitism

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Speaker 2: out there after a terror attack. I mean, this would

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Speaker 2: be very much like extreme anti americanism after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: But in this case it's it's even more heinous in

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Speaker 2: the sense that it goes against people's people's identity, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just about a nationality, it's about

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Speaker 2: an identity. Here it goes against the Jewish people as individuals.

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Speaker 2: And this has been I think a wake up call

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Speaker 2: on well for anybody who's capable of seeing reality. For

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Speaker 2: it is a wake up call about how much there

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Speaker 2: is this anti semitism on the left, how acceptable it

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Speaker 2: has become in some precincts of the left. And here

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Speaker 2: is this was Philadelphia. This is recently a group of

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Speaker 2: protesters outside of a Jewish owned restaurant in Philly wanted

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Speaker 2: you to hear what this chant was.

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Speaker 4: Play six.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clay, there are a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: One is and there's lots of this going on this

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Speaker 2: is happening on college campuses across the country. People are

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Speaker 2: there's all these videos, this is ongoing, It's going on

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Speaker 2: for months now. Right the October seventh of dact it's

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Speaker 2: been two months of this out on the streets. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of solidarity as well among Americans

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Speaker 2: with the Jewish people and with the state of Israel. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there are people who see this with the moral clarity

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Speaker 2: that anybody who understands any basic morality should. But I

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Speaker 2: think it's been surprising for a lot of people to

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Speaker 2: see how virulent and how widespread this anti Semitism is.

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Speaker 3: And I mean two things on this.

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Speaker 2: One is there is a degree of gathering outside of

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Speaker 2: a Jewish owned restaurant is clearly meant to be intimidating.

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Speaker 2: And to charge someone with genocide, not only is it insane,

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Speaker 2: but to me, it's an incitement. Right, I mean to

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Speaker 2: say that someone is somehow has a hand in genocide, Well,

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Speaker 2: you can use force to stop genocide, right, You're justified

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Speaker 2: basically in doing anything to stop a genocide.

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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in restaurant or culture, cuisine, anything

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Speaker 1: like that. My understanding is this is a very popular

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Speaker 1: restaurant in the Philadelphia area run by a Jewish guy,

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Speaker 1: and the Palestinian protester specifically walked to and stood outside

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Speaker 1: this is this is happening all over the country, and

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Speaker 1: we heard and Joe Biden based his entire political campaign

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Speaker 1: on the idea that Charlottesville could not be allowed to happen,

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Speaker 1: that it somehow attacked the soul of the United States.

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Speaker 1: And what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia as there was a

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Speaker 1: dueling protest surrounding the Roberty Lee statue there, which the

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Speaker 1: Wash Post now covers the meltdown of right, which is

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Speaker 1: super creepy and strange and odd that that was allowed

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Speaker 1: many ways his entire campaign for twenty twenty. My goodness,

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Speaker 1: Charlotte'sville happened. I have to run. Joe Biden's been in

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Speaker 1: office for three years now, and there are Charlottesville Virginia's

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Speaker 1: happening all over the country, and instead of being led

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Speaker 1: by right wing individuals, they are overwhelmingly the province of

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Speaker 1: the left, and by and large, Biden is saying nothing,

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Speaker 1: and so Buck, if you based the entire premise of

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Speaker 1: and Charlottesville in particular you found to be so nasty

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Speaker 1: the bench and run for president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: What possible statement would you be making if that was

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Speaker 1: truly your motivation when you are seeing America torn asunder

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Speaker 1: in many ways over this this Israeli Palestine discord, and

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Speaker 1: it's all coming from the left because because Buck, have

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Speaker 1: you heard anyone on the right protesting Israel?

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Speaker 3: I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a single person who votes Republican or

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Speaker 1: haven't even heard anything. It's all left wing attacks upon Israel.

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Speaker 1: And for the most part, Joe Biden's completely silent because

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Speaker 3: You know, the left has been encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Viewing everything through a racial lens, as we have discussed,

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Speaker 2: such that once you've made that determination about who is

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Speaker 2: the who is the racially oppressed group, nothing else is

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Speaker 2: The left treats that as the single most important determinant

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Speaker 2: in the wrong. And this has resulted in some really

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Speaker 2: morally obscene positions being taken on love. I mean, first

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Speaker 2: of all, this guy, this was on Sundays. It was

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Speaker 2: a couple of days ago that this protest gathered outside

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Speaker 2: of it's a falafel restaurant, and uh, they it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a guy who guy who owns it is Jewish,

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Speaker 2: So they were channing Goldie, Goldie, you can't hide. We

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Speaker 2: charge you with just in case you couldn't hear the audio,

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Speaker 2: we charge you with genocide.

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Speaker 3: And I and and.

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Speaker 2: You sit here and you say to yourself, what what

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Speaker 2: is the message the people that are gathering outside of

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Speaker 2: a Jewish owned restaurant in a mob and are chanting,

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Speaker 2: we charge you with genocide. That's meant to intimidate right there,

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Speaker 2: There's no there's not there's nothing. They're not standing up

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Speaker 2: for the rights of anyone. They're not convincing anyone of

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Speaker 2: the righteousness of their position or that we need to

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Speaker 2: approach this with more nuance. And on that point of

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Speaker 2: nuance or context, Uh, the left has a real problem

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Speaker 2: now because they've had members of Congress in the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 2: evidence that it wasn't just incidents of violent rape of

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Speaker 2: Israeli women and Israeli men that Hamas conducted on October seventh, Clay,

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Speaker 2: it was a policy of Hamas, it was part of

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Speaker 2: the plan, and there's just nothing more evil than what

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Speaker 2: Hamas did on October seventh.

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Speaker 3: But when we talk.

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Speaker 2: About the sexual assault issue specifically, all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: you have people talking about not overly condemning one side,

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Speaker 2: demands for contexts, and even Clay saying things like here,

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Speaker 2: here's a on there. This is a former Bernie Sanders spokesman,

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Speaker 2: Brianna Joy Gray.

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Speaker 3: She now hosts.

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Speaker 2: Rising, which is actually a show that be living around

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Speaker 2: I was hosting years ago with Crystal Ball, and she

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Speaker 2: tweeted this out. Zionists are asking that we believe the

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Speaker 2: uncorroborated eyewitness account of men who describe alleged rape victims

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Speaker 2: in odd, fetishistic terms.

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Speaker 3: Shame on Israel. She writes for.

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Speaker 2: Not seriously investigating claims of rape and collecting rape kids.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much here that is completely vile

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Speaker 2: play after being raped. There's so much like moral rot

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Speaker 2: this issue on the left that I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how we're going to be able to look

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Speaker 2: at this the same way ever, again, like the American

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Speaker 3: Well, what it does is it.

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Speaker 1: Points out that me too really only means me too

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Speaker 1: when the people who are accused of impropriety are convenient targets.

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Speaker 3: Me too.

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Speaker 1: When it's Brett Kavanaugh, me too, when it's Harvey Weinstein,

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Speaker 2: As the as the and I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: note one of those individuals is entirely innocent and the

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Speaker 2: other is obviously very very guilty.

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Speaker 1: Correct, but the reason why they are targeted. Look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was credibly accused of sexual assault by an employee.

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Speaker 3: It's detailed.

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Speaker 4: This.

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Speaker 2: This is a weapon against the white male patriarchy, full stop.

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Speaker 2: That's what Me Too became, and that is how it

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Speaker 1: You know, Dom Joe Biden, if you got the right politics,

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Speaker 1: they will even protect you from the Me Too movement,

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Speaker 1: as we saw happen with Joe Biden. Now if you

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Speaker 1: are Jewish, you either and alleged that you were raped.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know that twelve hundred plus were murdered,

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Speaker 1: this is like what we saw. I remember we had

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Speaker 1: some were, but you know, the total number of people

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Speaker 3: And you also, I think have to approach.

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Speaker 2: This with This is very obvious to anyone who has

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Speaker 3: That tells you a lot, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: If the Israelis, if the idea, if they were caught

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Speaker 2: But they have credibility to protect, and they are more

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Speaker 2: therefore more credible. Hamas has no credibility to protect. Hamas

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Speaker 2: Hamas is evil. This is actually quite straightforward. You know,

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Speaker 2: when all these people get in my comments and they.

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Speaker 6: Say, oh, but you know, what about Hamas and what

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Speaker 6: I don't care what they say because they are morons,

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Speaker 6: because this could not be more clear, It could not

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We were

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Bucksxtant Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 9: We could be six days away from losing our rule

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Speaker 5: We're on the.

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Speaker 6: This is the end of America and we're all going

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Speaker 2: Look, there's bad stuff happening. We've got to address it.

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Speaker 3: This has taken it to a new level. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody Clay would even listen to you

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Speaker 1: But the problem I think Democrats are having is there

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Speaker 3: We legitimately had elections during the Civil War in World

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Speaker 2: Everything is the truly the end of the country as

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Speaker 2: we know it. And that is what they say. Existential,

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Speaker 2: a word they overuse chronically, everything climate change existential, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump existential.

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Speaker 3: You know, the war on trans people existential.

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Speaker 2: I sit here and say, what really is the message

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Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party, Clay going into twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: other than hysteria across the board.

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Speaker 3: They push hysteria.

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Speaker 2: On everything, that women will be you know, enslaved to

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Speaker 2: their wombs and the Handmaid's Tale because of abortion, That

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is the great destructor of the American Republic

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Speaker 2: and will create fascism, that you know, white nationalism is

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Speaker 2: the only force in America that seeks to have a

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Speaker 2: But just that put that aside, it doesn't matter. It's

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Speaker 2: always hysteria and madness. And I think that that's one

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Speaker 2: of the primary problems of the I'm just going.

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Speaker 3: To say this.

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Speaker 2: I think that emotional and psychological instability may be the

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Speaker 2: and that's why they think a lot of the things

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Speaker 1: What do you think about playing the stephen A clip

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Speaker 1: the next little bit, we'll break that down for you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Congressman Byron Donald's going to join us

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Speaker 1: in the third hour. The decision not to include Florida

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Speaker 1: particularly for the state of Florida. For those of you

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Speaker 2: So yesterday I got an education in the feud that

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Speaker 2: broke out over the weekend over which teams are going

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Speaker 2: to the college football playoffs. Governor of my home state,

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Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis weighed in on this one. Here here's what

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Speaker 2: he said. Let's let's play that clip.

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Speaker 10: They undefeated conference champion and to be left out in

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Speaker 10: favor of two to one lost teams and not those

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong. Now, Florida Saint earned

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Speaker 3: that spot. Donald Trump wants to blame.

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Speaker 10: Me, you know, he also said that he also took

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Speaker 10: Disney side against.

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Speaker 3: Us when we stood up for the kids.

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Speaker 10: He also said Cuomo in New York did COVID better

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Speaker 10: than we did in the attack me for being pro life.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the reason.

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Speaker 10: We should have a debate on your show, Laura. Stop

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Speaker 10: being a keyboard warrior and let's step up and debate

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Speaker 10: one on one. He's had a lot to say about

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Speaker 10: me over the last year.

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Speaker 3: Say it to my face. I'm game.

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Speaker 2: Well bringing it back to football here for a second,

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Speaker 2: because he turned that into a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 2: We have Congressman Byron Donald's with us of Florida as well.

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Speaker 2: Who wants to have an epic throwdown with Clay on

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Speaker 2: this when it was a shortened version yesterday. I am

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Speaker 2: munching popcorn over here, Clay, you guys go ahead, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Congressman, let's start here.

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Speaker 1: I read Trump making comments about DeSantis to blame as

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Speaker 1: a total joke, right like he was having fun with

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Speaker 1: the mess and saying, oh, let's just blame DeSantis for this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure is that the way you read that too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know some people are treating it like

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Speaker 1: it's a serious thing, but I think Trump was just

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Speaker 1: kind of having fun with it and being a little

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Speaker 1: bit funny on truth social with that comment.

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Speaker 5: Were you asking me if I think that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what like how would you like?

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Speaker 1: You don't think Trump actually thinks DeSantis is to blame

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Speaker 1: for Florida State not getting into playoff, right, some people

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Speaker 1: are treating that seriously.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 5: think that's just a joke. I mean, listen, the president's

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Speaker 5: having fun with it, and also you know, look, he's

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Speaker 5: up bigging the polls all through the country, so he's

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Speaker 5: having a little fun, you know, with the governor as well.

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Speaker 5: But you know it's not his fault. The fault lies

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Speaker 5: with the committee. We all know this. That's what the

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Speaker 5: fault lies with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what should happen to the committee? In your mind,

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Speaker 1: there's been I'm sure you saw. Rick Scott wrote a

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Speaker 1: letter saying that he wants to preserve them, to preserve

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Speaker 1: their text messages and data and whatnot. And Ron DeSantis,

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Speaker 1: I think, has left a million dollars now in the

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Speaker 1: Florida budget to examine this. Is there a role for

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Speaker 1: Florida politicians to be playing in this debate? And this

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Speaker 1: decision in your mind, Well.

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Speaker 5: I'm not totally there. But the reason why I think

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Speaker 5: they are engaged in this is, first of all, what

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Speaker 5: the committee did was wrong to the players. That's number one.

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Speaker 5: Number two, Florida State is a state institution. They are

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Speaker 5: funded by the state government. They get taxpayer money. This

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Speaker 5: decision by the committee all told cost the ACC in

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Speaker 5: Florida State over ten million dollars. That's a major investment

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Speaker 5: in Florida State. So yeah, there's reasons why people are

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Speaker 5: looking at this. But third and overall, an I'm beating

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Speaker 5: team a Power five champion is left out. That just

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Speaker 5: doesn't pass the smell tests unless your name, unless you

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Speaker 5: are an alumni or a student at Texas or Alabama.

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Speaker 5: You're looking at that, and you're looking at this saying, man,

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Speaker 5: this is fishy, stinks. Who got paid and what's going on?

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Speaker 5: People need to look into this.

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Speaker 3: Wait, Clat agree with Yeah, you agree with everything.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Donald's is saying here because I thought you guys

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Speaker 2: didn't see.

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Speaker 3: I disagree with him.

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Speaker 1: I think that because of the injury to Jordan Travis,

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Speaker 1: Florida State had an opportunity to play against Florida and

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Speaker 1: they got an opportunity to play against Louisville.

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Speaker 3: They won both those games.

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Speaker 1: The defense was very solid, But I think Florida State's

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Speaker 1: a touchdown worse than they would have been with Jordan Travis.

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Speaker 1: So I would have agreed with the committee. I would

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Speaker 1: have put in Texas and I would have put in

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Speaker 1: Alabama over Florida State because I think given the rosters

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Speaker 1: and the situations and the charge of the committee to

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Speaker 1: put the four best in, I think that those teams,

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Speaker 1: both Texas and Alabama are better than Florida State was

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: Okay, now here's where is what I'm gonna do plays,

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Speaker 5: So just sit tight them a break all this downt's

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Speaker 5: take Alabama. I am not opposed to Alabama being in.

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Speaker 5: I think it was the right fall by the committee.

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Speaker 5: Alabama is appropriately ranked at four. They beat the number

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Speaker 5: one team in the country, Georgia neutral field last game

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Speaker 5: of the season. They deserve to be in. The issue

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Speaker 5: is Texas. First of all, Texas the same Texas team

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Speaker 5: they beat Alabama in Week three, when Alabama was not

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Speaker 5: the Alabama you saw beat Georgia, much weaker team. Milrod

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Speaker 5: got benched after the Texas game. This is the same

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Speaker 5: Texas team that beat TCU by three points. They beat

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Speaker 5: Kansas State by three points, looking god awful. They lost

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Speaker 5: to Oklahoma in the Red Riverschelle Shootout, and they beat

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Speaker 5: an Oklahoma State team for the Big Twelve Championship that

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Speaker 5: lost to South Alabama thirty three to seven and lost

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Speaker 5: to UCF forty five to three. UCF isn't even the

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Speaker 5: fourth best team in Florida and Oklahoma State beat them

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Speaker 5: forty five to three. That's who Texas beat for the

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Speaker 5: Big Twelve championship. So you're gonna sit here and tell

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Speaker 5: me that Texas to jump four spots on the last

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Speaker 5: week over Florida State. When Florida State went on to

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Speaker 5: row with the second string quarterback and beat Florida in Florida,

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Speaker 5: didn't lose to UCF the way Oklahoma State did. They

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Speaker 5: beat Florida in Florida. And let's talk about Louisville. Louisville

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Speaker 5: is a better team than Oklahoma State, much better team.

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Speaker 5: They have a better offense to Oklahoma State. And our

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Speaker 5: defense was lights out. They weren't good, they were great,

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Speaker 5: all right, So it should be the third ranked team

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Speaker 5: in the country.

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Speaker 1: I challenge here find him very compelling in his The

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Speaker 1: challenge here is Texas beat Alabama by ten in week three.

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Speaker 1: You're correct, it was early in the year, but they

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Speaker 1: won on the road at Brian Denny. So I think

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Speaker 1: the challenge for the committee is I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can put Alabama in without putting Texas in. They finished

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Speaker 1: with the same record twelve and one. They won the

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Speaker 1: head to head. The number one rule of sports, as

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Speaker 1: you well know, when you have a tie is how

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Speaker 1: do you decide to tie? Who won the head to head? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Texas lost to Oklahoma, but Oklahoma's a pretty good game,

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Speaker 1: pretty good team. Ten and two. They lost with fifteen

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Speaker 1: seconds left. That was a battle rivalry game, neutral site field.

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Speaker 3: I think the committee got it right.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think and this is going to really

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Speaker 1: drive Florida State fans and you're really going to tee

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Speaker 1: off now Byron when you hear this. I actually think

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Speaker 1: Florida State should have been ranked seven. I think they

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Speaker 1: should have been behind behind Georgia at five and behind

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Speaker 1: Ohio State at six. I don't even think they were

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Speaker 1: a top sixteen.

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Speaker 5: That don't even that makes no sense at all. Let's

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Speaker 5: go back to the Red River shootout. You just said.

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Speaker 5: You just said that they won in the last fifteen

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Speaker 5: seconds over Oklahoma. It's a rivalry game, Clay, What do

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Speaker 5: you think Florida Florida State is, Man, it's a long

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Speaker 5: standing rivalry game.

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Speaker 3: Wet Florida is not any good.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, stop this year. Stop that Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Florida finished five and seven.

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Speaker 5: They lost two games. I thought the games the matter.

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Speaker 5: It's how you look. Well, Oklahoma lost two games like

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Speaker 5: this is what I'm saying. All I'm saying is this,

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Speaker 5: Florida State's defense is easily top four. Our defense is

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Speaker 5: better than Washington's, and I would argue our defense is

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Speaker 5: better than Michigan's. That's number one. Number two. Yes, we

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Speaker 5: don't have Jordan Travis anymore. Freak injury. Sorry for him,

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Speaker 5: and I hope his future continues. And I think you

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Speaker 5: know the reports of his surgery are that it went well.

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Speaker 5: But there has been no evidence on the field at

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Speaker 5: any point in this season that Texas is better than

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Speaker 5: Florida State. And I will back up a point that

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Speaker 5: you made. The committee knew they had to put Alabama

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Speaker 5: in and the only way they could justify it was

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Speaker 5: have Texas jump four spots on the last day of

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Speaker 5: the season to jump over Florida State. Even when Texas

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Speaker 5: beat Bama back on week three, they didn't jump floor

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Speaker 5: spot time.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you that the committee. Here's what we agree.

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Speaker 1: The committee set itself up for a problem when they

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Speaker 1: put Florida State at four and when they had Texas

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Speaker 1: at seven in Alabama at eight, they were hoping. I

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Speaker 1: think that this would resolve itself because if Georgia would

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Speaker 1: have beaten Alabama, I think they would have probably kept

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Speaker 1: Florida State in and they would have then had Texas

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Speaker 1: as the four. Right, I think that's the way this

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Speaker 1: thing would have shaken out. But I think that they

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Speaker 1: are sorry they would have put Florida State at the

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Speaker 1: four in Texas would have been at the five. I

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Speaker 1: think that's probably what they would have done if Georgia

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Speaker 1: had gone on in won. But man, what they should do,

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Speaker 1: and what I wish everybody had just said, was let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and put the twelve team playoff in implemented.

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Speaker 3: A year early.

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Speaker 1: This is where you need like a grand master of

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Speaker 1: the you know, the commissioner, like somebody who was in

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Speaker 1: charge of the overall landscape. Buck, I think even you

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Speaker 1: would agree with this, go ahead and start the twelve

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Speaker 1: team playoff early. That would have been the right choice. Boom,

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Speaker 1: you put it all in place now, Clay.

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Speaker 5: Here, something I will agree with you on what the

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Speaker 5: committee should have really done is they should have said, okay, oops,

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Speaker 5: we got called because Bbama beat Georgia. By the way,

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Speaker 5: I was calling that game before it happened, I thought

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Speaker 5: Bama could beat Georgia. I'm gonna be the side they

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Speaker 5: should have easily been like, dang, I'm being Florida State

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Speaker 5: has to be in yay Sarry, Texas, but you beat

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Speaker 5: Bama when Bama was weak and they're strong now and

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Speaker 5: on a neutral field, Texas cannot beat Alabama, not today,

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Speaker 5: and we all know that that's number one. Number two.

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Speaker 5: What they really could have done is said, you know

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Speaker 5: what Orange Bowl and some other ball, Yeah, we need Georgia.

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Speaker 5: We need Georgia to play Texas, and we need Alabama

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Speaker 5: to play Florida State and then Georgia and in Michigan

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Speaker 5: and Washington get a buy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We could have went to a sixteen r pass and

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Speaker 5: everybody would have been okay. The players would have been like, oh,

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Speaker 5: let's do it, and they would have made more money

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Speaker 5: for college football because we got it. At the end

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Speaker 5: of the day, this is about money. My biggest issue

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Speaker 5: with the committee is this, we have to fully acknowledge

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Speaker 5: now that this is about money. It is not about amateurism.

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Speaker 5: They want the most eyeballs on the screens and that's

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Speaker 5: why they moved Texas up four spots over Florida State.

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Speaker 5: It's a travesty of justice like this has ever occurred

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Speaker 5: in college sports. I mean, a committee might as well

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Speaker 5: be the Russian judge. As far as the concern now, now,

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Speaker 5: who could bring this together? Who could bring this together?

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Speaker 5: You know, if we actually had a president of the

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Speaker 5: United States that was awake and knew how to leave,

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Speaker 5: he could step in and be like, hey man, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have one of these games on the National Mall.

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Speaker 5: The other game could be down at the Orange Bowl,

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Speaker 5: and that's how we'll do it. If you're concerned about

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Speaker 5: venue seating or you can always call Jeffy Jones. You know,

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Speaker 5: the billion dollar play pens always available.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 3: I agree one hundred percent with you.

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Speaker 1: I would love if Joe Biden, if he could wake

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Speaker 1: him up and if he knew what was going on,

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Speaker 1: if he just came out and said, Hey, I'm in

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Speaker 1: favor of expanding the playoff to six. What do I

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Speaker 1: need to do to make it happen? If I were

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Speaker 1: president of the United States, I'm not kidding, I would

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Speaker 1: do that. I bet if you were president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, you would do it. I'm sure some people

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Speaker 1: would criticize it. Every college football fan in America would

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Speaker 1: vote for US for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, I'm gonna be very clear. I'm in favor

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Speaker 5: of this because I'm a Florida State seminal. I'm an alumni,

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Speaker 5: graduated at two thousand and two. I love my team.

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Speaker 5: We've been in the valley. We're back at the at

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Speaker 5: the top. We should be at the mountaintop. Because, by

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Speaker 5: the way, if we were number three, we beat Washington

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Speaker 5: on a neutral field because I don't like Washington's defense.

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Speaker 5: I never have all year. I think we beat Washington

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Speaker 5: and then you see what happens. But I digress, it's

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Speaker 5: probably not gonna happen. Look at the end of the day, man,

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Speaker 5: these are kids, some of them a little bit older

778
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Speaker 5: because of the COVID extra year, so them with some

779
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 5: of them are twenty four years old, twenty three twenty four.

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Speaker 5: My son plays college football at the FCS level. You

781
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Speaker 5: just want the kids who work hard to be rewarded

782
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 5: for working hard. And what we have to acknowledge is

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Speaker 5: that the Russian judge committee that runs the college football

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Speaker 5: Playoff has put a stink and a stain on this

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Speaker 5: year's playoff. Because if you're really gonna choose the best

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Speaker 5: four teams, you ready for this. The best four teams

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Speaker 5: are Michigan, Washington, Alabama, and Georgia. So if you're gonna

788
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Speaker 5: do it that way, those are the best four teams.

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Speaker 5: And Georgia should be in the playoff because they only

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Speaker 5: lost by three on the road.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with that.

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Speaker 5: They lost my three?

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Georgia got screwed in this process too.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Byron Donalds, we appreciate it. Look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you again in person. Good luck to your Seminoles in

796
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Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl. If you beat Georgia, you might be

797
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Speaker 1: the only undefeated team in the country.

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Speaker 5: Listen, we beat Georgia, we'd a national champions baby. I'm

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Speaker 5: telling you that right now.

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Speaker 1: I bet, I bet there will be a parade at

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Speaker 1: Disney World if the Florida State Seminoles go fourteen to

802
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Speaker 1: zero and beat Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the time, man.

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Speaker 5: All right, take it easy.

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Speaker 2: of high school geometry class, Like I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what's going on.

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