WEBVTT - Jill Chin: HGTV Drama, Hard-Launching, and More | Happy Hour 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.800 Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.680 I'm Rachel and I'm Charity, and today we have Bachelor, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:14.360 Bachelor and Paradise and HGTV Bachelor Home Makeover Alum. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:16.800 Jill Welcome, Thank you. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.720 I know that's hearing all of that. I'm like, damn, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:20.079 I've been around. No. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.439 I was like, you got a list. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.680 Bachelor, two time Bachelor in Paradise and HGTV. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:29.680 We will get into. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.239 All that, but let's start with the Bachelor Mansion takeover. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.400 How did it feel getting that call and coming back 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:38.120 to the mansion. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:40.640 I was like so excited. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.519 I mean, when HGTV calls, you answer, you know, like 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.040 you do. Especially you know, I'm an architectural historian. I 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.199 deal with houses all day, so I'm just like, okay, perfect, 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.640 Like finally you guys caught on to what I'm trying 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.320 to do here, So that was really cool. And then 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.040 being back in the mansion, well, it's great. It's such 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.200 a funny place and it does like it kind of 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.399 smells the same, and there's so many memories. So yeah, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.880 it was really cool being back there in a different capacity. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.960 But it was not at all what I was expecting 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.200 from an AGEGTV show. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.520 No, I think we can all like testify of that 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.600 because we watched it and I was like, oh, this 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.480 is very interesting. And I also feel like there was 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.039 a little bit of like drama specifically with how they cast. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.520 Did you know ahead of time like who all was 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.600 going to be in the house or was that a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.160 surprise Like when you guys got there that was. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.080 A total surprise. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.480 I knew that Sam McKinney was probably going to be there, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.440 and I was like, Tyler Cameron's got to be there, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.480 you know, I thought being contestant, but he was a judge. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.360 So but yeah, No, I had no idea who's going 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.080 to be there. And some of the credentials were like 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:56.080 really good in something. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.280 I was like, this is a reach. They were cool. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.320 You are an architectural historian. You have so much experience 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.120 in this field. Do you feel like everyone there kind 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.040 of underestimated to you coming in? 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:14.240 Hell? Yeah, like, hey, I understand, I understand like balance 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:15.320 and proportionally sure. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.919 I don't know like what this fabric is called, like. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.840 And I got boot Clay, oh, like, oh, we have 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.000 to have like a secondary collar, and I'm like, dude, like, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.280 let's just make it look nice, right, I don't know. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.560 I definitely think they underested me to me, and I 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.880 was definitely a little more shy, a little more quiet, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.000 which is kind of crazy because that's just not who. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.000 I am, not at all. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.400 Yeah, but it was so intimidating because everyone I've never 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.919 been on a competition show, you know, like typically we're 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.320 not out there. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.120 For money, so it's just a different vibe. And it 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.520 was kind of like Survivor. And I don't. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.200 Know whose personality surprised you the most, Like obviously, I'm 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.000 assuming you weren't like super close with a lot of 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.600 these people you knew of them, but who. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.440 Surprised you the most and how they handle them? 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:05.040 Okay, so it was like, obviously I had you. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.040 Guys are so bad. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.320 We're slowly getting into it because. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.640 I think that obviously I had beef with Alicia and 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.520 that was not not even like pre existing historical beef. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.679 That was just like on the show because you know, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.560 people like Ella Sean took her and I was like no, man, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.240 Like I saw her come in and I was just 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.559 like you and Sean, that makes sense me and Sean. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.800 What like what am I doing here? So? 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.120 And I was like you know, I shared some cute dms, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.840 but they're like, oh my god, so happy you were there, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:39.080 blah blah, and then yeah, it just did not work out. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.000 Our personnelity is really different and it was just weird. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.160 The tension was just so weird. So obviously Alicia Joan 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.680 surprised me too. Joan and I. I was surprised with 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.240 Joan and I ever kind of beefing. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.880 I have a lot of fun. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.760 I know, I have a lot of respect for her, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.520 like as as a golden bachelorette and as a human being. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.760 But working together in a group, you know, there's some 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.520 people that that you don't want to be partners with. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.800 And it was one big group project pretty much all 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:11.560 the time. But Courtney Robertson she was there and. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.400 I actually, like really vibed with her. I love Courtney. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.400 I don't know if you guys, I know Rachel has 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.080 listened to my charity. Have you listened to that podcast? 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.359 The almost famous podcast? 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.000 I have not tell me more. What's going on there? 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:33.440 So so crazy, like frothing at the mouth, like juicy t. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.000 So Courney, let's let'spill it right now. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.359 So it's Courtney, Trista and Joan and the idea is 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.360 like that they're gonna and there's like a moderator and 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.880 they're gonna like squash their beef. So it first starts 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.039 off with Joan and Courtney like getting into like the 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:52.080 nitty gritty like why they're beefing, and then it goes 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:56.159 into Courtney and Trista and they are like fighting, like 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.919 yelling at each other, like no resolution ends with the 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.920 just like okay, Like the Moderator's kind of like wait, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.839 no ways. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.320 Really bad Like I was. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:18.000 I was aghast so much because I'm like Trista Trish. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.600 Which is crazy. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.280 And also I feel like Joan is our golden Bachelorette. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.200 Obviously we've always seen her in this incredible light and 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:28.160 there seems to be a. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:29.920 Lot of drama that happened off camera. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.520 Did you see any drama that was going on between 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.680 Joan and Courtney that wasn't shown or that we did 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:37.919 see y. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:44.159 In that. I was up in that, bitch. I knew 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:50.560 every fucking detail of that. Yes, of course I did, so. Yeah, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.840 Like I saw everything that was going on. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.160 It was like it was a tough environment, like everyone 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.799 has their own ship, right, Like everyone's going through stuff. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.839 Courtney's going through stuff, you know, Jon's We're all going 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.520 through stuff, and so I. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.880 Don't really you know their beef is there beef? 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.160 You can listen to that podcast. I was like, oh, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.800 I will, it's I don't know why. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.600 This isn't like like like on the news. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.760 This is crazy. Oh so it was that deep. I'm like, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.040 I'm I'm at a lost. I'm at a lost too. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:22.560 I was. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.120 I literally listening to it. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.720 I was like, like, there were some moments I wanted 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:27.799 to take off my headphones. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:29.320 It's insane. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.800 And I feel like, Jill, because it is obviously amazing 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.800 having you on this podcast because I know all the 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.120 answers and I asked you these questions, but you were 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:41.560 going through it during the show because of the drama 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:47.240 and the environment. How was that show compared to Paradise 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.320 or The Bachelor? Because you were more stress than I've 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:52.320 ever seen you. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.160 No, I know, it was so bad. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.760 I think so for Bachelor it was just like, you know, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.680 first show whatever, I'm just like rolling with the punches. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.920 It was I kind of expected to be, you know, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:04.799 in my role. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.480 So you know, first of all, No, we were having 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:09.280 a great time. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.920 Besides the times where we were throwing up and screaming and. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.880 Crying, but we had an amazing time. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.040 Yeah, yeah, that was very convincing. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.280 She's like, yes, yeah, no, I did have like fun, 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.720 but I knew Clayton and I like from like the jump. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.160 Yeah, like we're not gonna vibe. 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:29.600 So it's just like. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.840 Okay, like I'm your amenities, Like I'm gonna like jump 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.040 in the pool, like I'm gonna go on the dates, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.200 like let's go. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:36.560 Yeah. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.760 Bachelor, the first Bachelor Paradise season I did, I was like, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:45.360 oh my god, it was really bad. I had We 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.920 had a run, dude, We had a run like it 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.720 was the first time a rough dude. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.560 The image of Jill running up and down that beach 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.360 screaming live my memory. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.000 Not even the half of it, like I think, you know, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.840 like Andrew describes it. They're like they're just watching me, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.880 like sitting watching me run up and down the beach. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.000 Like it was really bad because I you know, I 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.040 had be five drama. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:10.640 It's fine. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.560 And then and then they did Split Week and that 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.320 tore me apart over you know, fucking Jacob or Pani, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.840 God bless him. It will be somewhere good now if 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.080 you get a couch, but damn, like it was just 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.600 I was fighting for my life. I didn't really know 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:26.000 what to do. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:27.160 And then back to. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.360 It was so and you got roasted on the one 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:32.719 for that couch comment too. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.000 Oh you were going through that as well. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.600 And then well because then I said I said a 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.800 lip driver, like really, I got my heart? 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:41.920 No, I do remember that. I was like, it wasn't that. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.520 It was the lift she was going with, the people 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.000 were not happy with her. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.960 But it went over better than I thought it would 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.839 because I literally had like a tweet drafted like to 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.199 all the ride share drivers, I love you. 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.679 Like I was like, truly we do. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.680 Yes, what am I going to do? But actually, whenever 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:05.760 you will, because I think we've all been there, We've. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.600 All been like this guy, like this is the dude 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:13.360 I'm fucking in tears over yeah, like you know, God 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.400 bless him. He's you know, got a special place in 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.160 the like like a tiny ventricle of my heart, Like 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:19.600 that's it. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.200 And then the most recent Bachelor Paradise was actually so fun. 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.160 I had so much fun. I only cried like a 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.199 couple of times. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.160 Wait and let's talk about it. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.800 Yeah, because I was like okay, completely different format everything. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:34.800 Yeah, I want to. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.840 Know your thoughts on that you went into paradise because 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.080 you were in a long term relationship that ended, and 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.520 as soon as it ended, I told her, I'm like, Jill, 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.160 you're going to paradise this year. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.000 Yeah, so you were the one that convinced her. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.160 I said, you have to go to paradise. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.080 So single, it's a new it's a new year and 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.240 a clean slate. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.640 And it was nothing like you expected. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.320 No, it was nothing like I can spected. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.559 But also so Rachel, you know, when she got the 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.880 s O S that I had been dumb, she flew 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.160 out and so she was like, Jil, you have. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.960 To make a statement. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.920 And I'm like let people know that you're single. And 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.400 I'm like, no, Like why am I? Who do I think? 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.360 I am? Like I'm not making a statement to make. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:25.920 A breakup post with the text like please like asking 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.760 for prayers, like I'm not going to tell you any 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:29.280 like give me. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:34.000 The privacy like clickbait as hell. And then I ended 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:39.240 up just doing like copying Matt Matt James and Rachel 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.719 Corcconddle's break up Father God please, Like Okay. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.079 I'm I'm actually dead. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.599 You posted that too, Yeah, so I took a scowshot 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.080 of like of his caption. I just like scribbled out like, 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.079 Rachel Papa, God, please do it. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:54.559 I'm done. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:58.560 He god the casting producer's attention, and then until. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:02.599 Message was received, and literally. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.400 Two weeks after, they called me for Bachelor of Paradise 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.640 and I was like, all right, oh my gon no. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:11.559 She was like I cried for like point two seconds 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:11.920 and You're like. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.559 Yes, I'm going. I'm absolutely going. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.800 So I want to talk about your and Susie's arrival day. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.320 You guys got there. 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.160 It must have been eleven pm at night. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.040 It was understorming. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.320 Tell us what that was like, arriving to Paradise in 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:35.280 those conditions, dude, Wall Like. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.240 I was just like, well, no, because when you show 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.600 up to Paradise usually like you know, second round, like 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.480 this is, you know, after the first row semony, it's 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.920 like those are like the heavy hitters coach. So I'm 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.160 like I'm puting with the date card, like this will 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.240 be great, and then you know they're like be writing 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:54.160 at six pm. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.600 I'm sitting in my room fucking dolled. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.920 Up and I'm waiting their storms rolling in. So they 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.720 can't film during the storms. I'm like, shit, I'm like, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.600 is there? I literally said, is anybody still awake? Like 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.360 is this getting? Like? 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.400 What are people wearing? What's the vibe? And I walk 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.560 in and you know, it's it's nighttime. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:17.760 People don't really care and it is fricked like when 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.800 I walk in, you can tell. I was like, oh 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.400 my god, it's so quiet. I literally said, oh my god, 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.720 it's so quiet because I'm like and people are looking 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:29.520 at me like it was a nightmare. And then someone said, oh, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.760 I thought you were here to host something, not like 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:32.600 be part of the show. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:33.480 And I was like, stop. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.199 At least that means you're iconic. But when you go 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:42.120 down you expect who's actually who said that? 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:43.960 It was Cat? 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:48.120 It was Cat, but. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.400 I mean, yeah, flattering a guess. But then I looked 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.400 around and I was like, okay, there were literally four 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.720 guys and you know, all booed up, and then Susie 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.200 comes in, God bless her. She comes in with the 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.520 fucking umbrella, and then Justin's there and it was just 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:05.240 like set up. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.120 I'm like, you said by top. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.280 They really did? I think that format was insane? 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.640 Only it was what was it? 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.880 Six guys beyond insane. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:16.559 It did? 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.319 You guys also dirty dude. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.240 And two of them were on a date. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.960 So I had literally four guys and I'm like, you know, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.920 Justin's like my brother, and I'm like, like, insest, like 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:26.960 it's just weird. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:28.840 So yeah, it was. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.840 It was, and we only had twenty four hours. The 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.280 next day was a row ceremony. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.200 I was like, is like ridiculous, Like I would have 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.160 been like, actually, I'm just gonna leave, like there's no 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:37.720 need for me. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.680 Oh and then I went back. I went back to 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.920 my room crying that. I was like. And then Susan 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.480 and I were like, yo, you want to go to 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:45.480 Avisa after like. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.600 We're planting our next trip because actually yeah, he's closed 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:49.440 for Paradise. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.640 Were like all right, like let's go somewhere. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:58.840 M h. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.280 Absolutely insane. You ended up having a connection with a people. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:12.800 Yeah, yes, not that I know of. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.920 Sh let's talk about it. You had a connection with Jonathan? 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.320 Sure, how did that go? 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:21.280 Sure? 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.520 From your side? 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.600 From my perspective to this is because I is like 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.080 publicly had this conversation with Jonathan. I want to know 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.400 your point of view from your Paradise connections. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:39.000 Okay, Well, like, you know, Jonathan was I would say, 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.960 like a trusted friend. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.360 I'd never met him, but I knew through you. Rachel. 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.760 I was like, and you, and you're responsible for this too. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:47.720 I'm not like you. 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.960 So she was like, Jonathan's a good guy, like you know, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.280 if you can find Jonathan, like. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:53.760 He's a good guy. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.840 And I was like, orry, fine, So I go up. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.720 There's nobody, nobody for me to take on a date. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.080 I was like, well that oh it was like Jeremy 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.960 By Like I was just like, oh my god. And 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.840 I was like, you know what, let me just ask Jonathan. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.240 I was just like, as a friend, do you want 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.400 to go on this friend date with me? 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:12.840 Whatever? 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.840 Bs And then we actually ended up having like a 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.640 really good time, like we had a good time. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:18.680 We were playing fucking twister. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.600 It was okay, you know why am I doing Twister 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:23.360 in the hotel? 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.360 I was like, okay, cool, I'm gonna go on a 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:26.320 date Bachelor of Paradise. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.960 Where we going, Oh, we're going to the Presidential suite 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:29.600 to do twister? 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.080 So whatever, he kisses me during Twister. Didn't have to 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:37.720 kiss me during Twister, by the way, but he did, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.120 so I was. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.240 Like, Okay, then we just making a moment and I'm like, yeah, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.000 right exactly. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.120 So you know, we were talking. We talked for probably 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.440 like forty five minutes an hour, just like the two 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.880 of us, and it was really nice. We were like 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.040 kind of getting into it. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:55.040 And I was like, okay, like this is this could 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.440 be something. So obviously I'm gonna like shoot my shot, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.160 like I'm gonna try. I want to stick around like 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:04.520 a whole little so you know, he I don't know, 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.040 I don't know the order of operations, but he basically 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.880 I was like just letting him know him like, hey, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.040 like I had a good time. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.400 I fear down, like I'm down, like I'm open. And 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.120 then what did he say, Rachel, what do you say 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:16.320 to me? 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.760 He was like, uh, something crazy something get crazy to me. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:21.960 Yeah, I forget what it was. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.560 Oh you're making my decision hard. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.680 Oh yeah, you're making my decision harder. I said, hmm, oh, 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.880 she said this a chance. And he's with Alex at 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.880 that point, so I'm like, okay, So in the row 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.960 ceremony happens obviously, like Justin tries to to Susie that 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.440 falls through that whole thing and ends up given to me. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:41.760 Pity Rose. Fine, I'll take it. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.680 No, the Hail Mary Rose, and it was iconic. 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:48.000 It was yeah, so I'm just like, okay, I felt 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.000 so bad for Susie was so bad and Lexi was. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:50.640 Just a mess. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.800 And then afterwards I was like, why I said, don't 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.520 ever play in my face ever again, because he'll tell 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.400 me that there's a chance, like I said that. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.040 He's like, I was okay, whatever. 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.840 Did this makes screen? Because I support this, don't ever 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:07.600 play in my face? 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.840 No that that didn't make screen. But then was like 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.760 but then after then the next row ceremony, guess what, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.760 guess who needs rose? He does? He does. 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.440 And then I'm like, no, I'm gay, I'm gonna get 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.200 Sean because we went on one day and now we're like. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.240 You know, I'm just like at least something to choose me. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:28.840 Yeah right, sel I was just like all right, I 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.760 guess I'll take this girl because she'll give me a rose. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:35.240 Like it's it was like that, Yeah, I'm like all right, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.119 Like it's just that kind of beat and like we knew, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.240 like I knew. 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.080 He like showed me into his room and it was. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.400 Like a pharmacy of like, oh, this is my skin 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.520 cur and this is my this and this is Sean Jonathan. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:47.080 This is Sean. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.320 I actually I do love that. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:55.800 He's like he's a love smaxer, you know what I'm. 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:56.320 And like, God bless him. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.760 But I'm like, all right, like my scene cares like 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.600 Nutrigena wipes it night, Like I don't really know Tate 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:06.120 McCray could never like so I just it just wasn't 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.240 a vibe like I remember being like, dude, I should 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.000 probably kiss him, like I should probably try and it 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:12.320 was just. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:12.920 Bad as bad. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.800 And then he was like making out the April in 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.399 front of me, and I was like, Beyond April was 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.800 like stealing my man, like low key like yond. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:22.760 It was wild. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.560 And then once I saw that, I was like I've 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.119 had enough. And then I was like dressed as a 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.480 bird and I'm like, yeah, I'm leaving. I'm getting out 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:30.639 of here. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.080