1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: M Y live from Indianapolis. This is continuing cover each 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: of the NFL Combine on Steelers Station Radio. We are 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: live at the Indiana Convention Center, show number two on 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: day number two here on s n R. Wesley Euelert, 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Max Stary, We've got you for the next two hours 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: until I believe I swapped places with Williamson. But it's 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: our first full day of coverage here on Home of 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold ten to four for the rest 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: of the week here on Saturday as well to and 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, guys really starting to pick up today. Yeah, 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett finally made it to the podium. Yeah, finally, 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: good timing for you down Yeah, you know, I mean, 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, hey, better late than never, right, I guess, 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I guess. But after I stood over there for two 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: hours that was not much and then had to come 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: over here. So you know, it is what it is, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: our combine. Sorry, Max ahead, I'm just gonna say, I 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that this is this is what 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: the combine is all about, right to rest, hurry up 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and wait. That's kind of the theme and it applies 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: to media as well. They gotta they gotta test everybody here. 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: You gotta keep you on your on your toes. Well 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: passed today the age where I like to be tested. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. Our combine coverage all week 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: brought you by First National Bank. Let's get started. Member 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: f D I C. Dale. One person that we did 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: hear from already this morning Malik willis Liberty quarterback of course, 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: and I believe he did some some specific talking about 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers and was asked about the Steelers organization. He did. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: He he was asked if he had met He's the 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: thing about this, everybody gets asked, did you meet with 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: this good team? Did you meet with that they met 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: with That's the whole idea of this. You know, yes, 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I met with them. So he was asked about Steelers. 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I met with the with the Steelers 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: and he said, well, you know what, how do you 37 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: fit in the Steeler's offense? He was, I don't know, 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how much about their offense, but he said, 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: like the coaching to have their they were you know, 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: they were nice guys. Um, it's there's thirty two teams 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: out there, folks. You know you're not gonna know the 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: engine outs of every NFL offense. I I liked his 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: honesty in that in that regard, and he was also asked, 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: you know what kind of offense that he feels fits 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: him best, and as well, one of the scores points 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: that's that's a good one, that it's a pretty good 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: he's a he's a pretty cool cat. He's he's he's 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: seems like he is very comfortable in his own skin. Well, 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: and it's he has he has a way of you know, 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: like you said, he has that comfortability, like he gets it. 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's the other thing where when you 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: go through and you see some of the guys you're 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, this guy's eyes wide open, you know, 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: deer in the headlights type of look, or some guy 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: that just seems unaffected. But some guys that just get 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: the gravity of the situation, understand, you know, how this 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: is going and understands it's a process. And I think 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: that was one of the things that was nice to see. 59 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: You know. Also, you know, I sat in and listened 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: over at Bailey's Happy for a little bit, Yeah, just 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: to kind of hear his kind of mode and his process. 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: And so I think that's one of the biggest things 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: when you come to the combine. You know, they're gonna 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: try and have pointed questions because Leek Willis is pretty 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: much everybody at the Senior Bowl already, and so this 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: is kind of old hat. So when he goes in 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: for that second interview, it's kind of like, hey, guys, 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: it's like Norm from Cheers walking in. You know, what's up, Casey? 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? You know, I mean, he's not gonna 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: do that because he's a young man and their adults, 71 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: but it's kind of like that familiarity, so you're allowed 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more comfortable, I think, and 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing is that if you 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: got interviewed prior to here, there is that comfortability, so 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: you kind of get a little bit more intimate with 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: the player. You can dive a little bit deeper because 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, just like anything else right with, introductions are over. 78 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: The introductions are over. The representative self, right, you know, 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the one you meet on women meet on first dates 80 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: of a guy like that guy's best foot forward, best 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: foot forward. So now it's more truthful. It's funny you 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: mentioned that because bed Ritter was asked that at the 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. You know, how do you how handling these things. 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm just going there and being myself to 85 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: go in there and be somebody who I'm not for 86 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes each with thirty two team out Like I 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: just can't. I can't. It's just not worth the the 88 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: effort to do that. And they're gonna get to know 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: you one way or the other, so you might as 90 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: well be yourself and and you know, and just do that. 91 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: That's what background checks are for, right. They're gonna find 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: out if you're if you have some you know, character flaws, 93 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: they're going to find out well, and they will find 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: out from your elementary school teacher and principle if they're 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: still alive and well at the time. As I found out, 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: they're like, I've never forget this. I was, I was 97 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: back home. I was doing some workouts, and like, like 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: my mom called me. She's like, hey, you know, Mrs 99 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: hand Gartener call only my fifth grade teacher. Why why 100 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: was she? How did she call you? Because I'm like, oh, yeah, 101 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: I forgot my mom has a business that's in and 102 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: in the Yellow Pages, since that's the error we're talking about, um, 103 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, I got called by these guys. 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: From the b I and checking your background asked what 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: type of student you were in the fifth ground. I 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: was like what, and that's what That's the first thing 107 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: to trigger. So that's why it puts you to be. 108 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: But even still, you still get repped to all to 109 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: the ends of the earth while you're in your combine 110 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: training about potential questions and get a bit robotic in 111 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: those in those interviews because there's gonna be basic questions 112 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: that are gonna be asked consistently. So I think you 113 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: could there's a sembilance of being yourself. But first time 114 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: versus a second time allows for more ease just because 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: you don't know you know, you now know the parameters 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: where you walk into you know this room, you know 117 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: who the Steelers are, when you walk into the Ravens room, 118 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: you know who the Ravens are, you know who we 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: can actually say this the brown staff is going to 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: be from year to year because you all knew for 121 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: a long time that wasn't the case. So you there 122 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: is that familiarity that then comes play that allows you 123 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: to be more comfortable. Yeah, and I think that's a 124 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: that's huge in this. I think if you're not comfortable 125 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna show and at that at that in particular, 126 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: that ability to step in front of the media because 127 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be the face of the franchise. Yeah, you 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: better be comfortable on your own skin. You know. If 129 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: you're not, it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: out real well for you, because you're gonna do that 131 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, and you're gonna have to stand up 132 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: and deliver and and happy moments and sad moments and 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: right dirty moments, and you're gonna, Yeah, you have to 134 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: answer the call and you have to keep your resolved 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: in the face of that, especially when you go to 136 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: certain franchises where you know that there's an attention level 137 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: just naturally. Um, you know, and I think you know, 138 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Malik is definitely one of the guys I look at 139 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: that was very mature in front of in front of 140 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: the camera. Um at corral. He's one a little rough 141 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: around the edges, but I mean, but I think he's 142 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: also developing. I Mean, there's a certain core quarterbacks just 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: naturally carry when when they're even being contorted up here 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: in this top position. It's not like, uh, I happen 145 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: to just get here by accident. It really is so different. 146 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Um because of that passignebacker and you don't like doing 147 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: media stuff, you can kind of fudge it and get 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: Lawrence Timmins, for example. There's like a charm to it. 149 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: He had to. I mean he he had to. He 150 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: grew into it. He got better as as you know, 151 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: the longer he stayed in the league. But his first 152 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean, it was just awful. You know, 153 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you get a yes and no, you know answer. He 154 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: just wasn't comfortable doing it. If you're the quarterback, would 155 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: have the choice. You've got to do it, and you've 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: got yeah, And so that that's a big part of it. 157 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: You have to have the shoulders to handle something like 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: that and be able to communicate. Some guys are better 159 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: with words than others. But it's also just being comfortable 160 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: being the object at that moment, right, I mean, because 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: it's more so than what I'm going to say. But 162 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: can he stand and take it? Just like a full 163 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: on zero blitz right in the face. Are you gonna 164 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: stand and deliver or you're gonna crumble into You just 165 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: threw interceptions and and you're gonna get asked about them, 166 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: and you know how do you handle that? Ye, it's 167 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: it's tough stuff up, tough job. But I mean that's 168 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: why these guys are going through the paces right figure 169 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: out who can handle it. Absolutely. That's what this whole uh, 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: this whole combine experiences about these guys. I did hear 171 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Um Desmond Ritter speaking as well too. He mentioned that 172 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: he had a formal interview with the Steelers and then 173 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: he has, I think he said, with about seven teams. 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: You know, we know that these guys meet with every team, 175 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: but what's that process, Like the difference between your standard 176 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: interview and when a team requests to have you formally 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: sit down? Is it? Is it more long form? What's 178 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the kind of the difference there that he's discussing. So 179 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: a formal interview is actually when you get called in 180 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: to the suite and you have the quote unquote the 181 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: brass in there in the building and it's and it's 182 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: about it's it's like it's like a hotel suite and 183 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: you kind of go into the living room part of it, 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: and some of them set it up differently, right, Some 185 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: have the couch and then they have they bring like 186 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: bar stool cheers behind this, so it looks like stadium seating. 187 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: Some will have it to where you're just sitting in there. 188 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: They'll just turn the lights off except for like a 189 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: couple of spotlights, and you don't know who's in the 190 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: room him except for the guy sitting in front of 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: you asking the questions. And then another guy will pop out. 192 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Like there's so many different ways. But the former view 193 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: happens in that suite per se, and that's a twenty 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: minute long interview that they're to have. You know, this 195 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: is want to talk about the speed dating type of aspect, 196 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: but it's between the suites. And then the informal interviews 197 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: are gonna be happened in the train depot. The train depot, 198 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you're sitting at the table and coaches will come up 199 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to you as they see fit. And this is more 200 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: so your quarterbacks coaches, position coaches, coordinators can contrinting, conditioning 201 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: staff has access to come talk to you as well, 202 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: and you're just sitting at the table and you're just 203 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: made available. That's the more infatible. But foremost, when I 204 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: have I have my card and it has times listed 205 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: on the bank, But when I need to show up 206 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: to these, you only get so many formal interviews as 207 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: a team at the combine. Yes, you can't do it 208 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: with everybody. No, you can't do you get I think 209 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: it's it's a certain it's a certain amount of per position, 210 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: and it's metered based on how many guys are early here. 211 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: That's why you kind of split between Senior Bowl and 212 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: here getting all getting all the guys in here. The 213 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: nice thing about the Senior Bowl this year match was 214 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: that five of those top quarterbacks and and then Zappy 215 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: as wealth, but five of the guys, five of the 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: top six guys or the guys are considered, but top 217 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: six we're at the Senior Bowl, and so you know, 218 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: you got the a lot of that out of the 219 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: way there. Yeah, And that's one of the things because 220 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: normally you don't get that right, get the top Yeah 221 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: with one maybe, and he's trying to jump from like 222 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: three to one or two. He's trying to eat his value. 223 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, that that was that was a special 224 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: part of his When you do get the top talent 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: that actually shows up and plays in those games, Um, 226 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: that gives teams a lot more more breath and more time. Um. 227 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because Bailey's happy was another one 228 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: I didn't mention that I actually watched play at Western Kentucky. 229 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: I called one of his games that kid can throw 230 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: the football. Yeah. When I say throw the football, guy, like, 231 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: I know, we're in Western PA, Kentucky is not that 232 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: far away. But if you if you're hearing this name 233 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: for the first time, I absolutely ask that you go 234 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: pull up YouTube and just watch one of his games 235 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: or just watch a highlight reel. The kid is unreal. 236 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: He threw for over four and a fifty yards in 237 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: my game that I called, and it was calling touchdowns 238 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: left and right. I mean, he has a scoring machine. 239 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: And now that we're now more acceptable of the area 240 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: stout quarterbacks right. And he's a kid that transferred from 241 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Houston Baptist up to Western Kentucky followed his coach there. 242 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: And uh, and I mean the kid can sling. He's 243 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: going to be a surprising kid. Um for he's a 244 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: of that mid round value because he's pretty he's pretty 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: darn good. Yeah, he had a good week at the 246 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl as well throwing the football. Uh. The only 247 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: thing I questioned about him again is the size. You know, 248 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: he's just he just doesn't have that prototypical size and 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: and you look. I mean, I can remember because he 250 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: was on the same It was him, uh how from 251 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina and Willis were all on the American squad 252 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: and they were all standing next to each other, and 253 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Bailey's appy was actually, if you look at the measurements, 254 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: was the tallest of the three, but he looked like 255 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: the smallest of the three because as Willison Holler both 256 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: like two pounds and he's not, you know, so he 257 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: just looked like kind of like their little brother standing 258 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: next to him. And I looked up the heights and 259 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, but he's actually taller than than not much taller, 260 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: but he's taller than both of the guys, but he 261 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: just looks so much more slight standing next to them. Yeah, 262 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, And and that's one of the things. And 263 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: I know you depending on where you go determines how 264 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: big you need to be, right, you know what we 265 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: we talked about it yesterday. Right, you don't want to 266 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: go into a f C and NFC North uh as 267 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: a guy who slights a frame because because that that 268 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: will that will show itself real soon. But if you 269 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: get in the Southern conferences, are you getting one of 270 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,479 Speaker 1: the West coastins then you have a little bit more flexibility. 271 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: I think that's where he kind of projects more towards, 272 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: you know, going somewhere out west or being somewhere in 273 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: a southern team where he can sit behind another quarterback 274 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: and kind of learn and be that kind of change 275 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: a little bit like watching Drew Brees through the football 276 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: like that that that that kind of dome style quarterback 277 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: where he would you know, the wind isn't gonna be 278 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: a fact her here, He's gonna drop back and throw 279 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: the ball all over the place. Yeah, I mean it 280 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: would be something I would love to see him in 281 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: the Saints as as a potential landing spot and also 282 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: keeps us out of the AFC conference so we don't 283 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: about to see him except for every four fourth um. 284 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think that's one of the things 285 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: when you look at we all try and project where 286 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: these guys will make their big impact the next level. 287 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: And he just happened to be one that he was 288 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: sitting on the corner over here. I was like, let 289 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: me just here because I've called this guy's game, so 290 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: let me just hear how the kids sounds. And he 291 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: he has a lot of the it it's just he 292 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have the prototypical it. So that's why I think 293 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those Day two kind of 294 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: guys Day three where it's gonna be a value for 295 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: a team to either add depth or give him an 296 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: opportunity to go compete against somebody that might be incoming 297 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: at the back position. I think that's what makes I mean, 298 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: who are we kidding? The QB positions intriguing every year. Again, 299 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: they're the they're the prom kings. But I think what 300 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: you just touched on, there's a lot of guys who 301 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: this quarterback class don't have the prototypical it, but they 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: have a lot of traits that you like, that are 303 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: intrigued you think can lead to them being successful. There's 304 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: a handful of those guys, and it just kind of 305 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: all the pens upon you know, Scouts, gms, where they 306 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: all come down on everything. I do think that's intriguing 307 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Quarterback Day here at the Combine, gentlemen, let's take our 308 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: first break here when we come back, some more from 309 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Picketts some other quarterbacks at the Ponium now that 310 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: we can discuss more when we return as well. Dale Ally, 311 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Max Starks Wesley Uler are ongoing coverage here at the 312 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Indiana Convention Center for the two NFL scouting combine. Don't 313 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: go anywhere. We've got more coverage coming at you next 314 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: on s from Indianapolis. This is continuing cover each of 315 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: the NFL combine on Steelers Nation Radio. Back on Radio 316 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: Row Wesley Uler, Max Starks Dale Lally reminder, all of 317 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: our combined coverage this week brought to you by First 318 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: National BA. Let's get started. Remember f D I C 319 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, Dale, it's unfortunate. I mean, we we should 320 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: have gotten a water company to sponsor this. You can't. 321 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: You can't find anything in here unless you with the 322 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: NFL network. Yeah, only the network guys get the fancy catering, 323 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: which fantigator is just a cooler and a couple of 324 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: salad cups and a lemon bar Wasn't that a lemon 325 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: barrow or something like that? I was like, I was like, 326 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: what who brings that snack? For like catering a lemon 327 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: bar But I digress. Apparently that they felt some type 328 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: of way that you know, too much water has been 329 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: taken at one time. Uh So now it's accessible only 330 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: to NFL network and we have to go over the 331 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: river and through the woods. If we want to water 332 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: or drink a little bit of you definitely get your 333 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: steps in here. Um. I mean these places just massive 334 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: to begin with, and and you know everything is three 335 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: blocked exactly, and it goes nice than doors. But the 336 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: problem is it's like it's up an escalator, down to stairs, 337 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: around another huge ballroom and then you go through this crevice. 338 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I go outside, just cut the corner there. I've done 339 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: that for years, even when it's you're using cold because 340 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: if you look at you can see where you're going 341 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: over there. But to get there, if you're staying indoors, 342 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: it's you know, where's Waldough, you're kind of like following 343 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the the yellow work road to get there. I'm like, 344 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: I saw the one here. I'm like, I'm going right 345 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: over there. I can just walk outside and do that. 346 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I think you can handle in seconds outside as opposed 347 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: to the twenty minute walk over there. Now, that's that's 348 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: working smarter or not harder there. That is exactly what 349 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: you gotta do. Um. Quarterbacks are wrapping up their availability 350 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: at the podium. One of the things that I saw 351 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: here Kenny Pickett talking about the relationship that he's had 352 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin over his time at PIT and just 353 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the benefit of sharing the facilities, seeing how these NFL 354 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: guys work, being able to pick coaches brain do you 355 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: think is that a aripangible thing that teams will want 356 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: to talk to him about? Hey, what what did you 357 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: what did you learn watching NFL pros for for your 358 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: entire tenure at PIT? Is is that something that teams 359 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: will be intrigued by? Because I know that that's not, 360 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, the only instance of that in the NFL, 361 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: but it's certainly one a few. There's not a lot 362 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: of NFL teams that have you know, the college team 363 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: in the same same building, same facility. Say, that's the 364 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: only one with a splittic like it's literally an inverse 365 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: of each other when you walk in there, there's the 366 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: two separate entrances. Yeah, but so I so, I think 367 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: it is a very unique perspective that got that type 368 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: of experience where you at because you know, you guys 369 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: have come out to practice, right, you know, it's the 370 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: college get there early if they don't have class, and 371 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: they'll sit on their benches and watch practice. So I mean, 372 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's something that's highly unique that you can 373 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: actually have that opportunity to actually see what it is 374 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: to be that guy. And then you're that in close 375 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: proximity where we you know, we shared lunch with guys. 376 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: You know, the college kids will come over to our 377 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: room and you know, you see them awkwardly walking around 378 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: like a high schooler with their trade, figuring out where 379 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: they should sit because all because all the NFL guys 380 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: have spread out, you know, and we used to invite 381 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: the young old liignment and come on, sit down with us. Man. Hey, 382 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: we're not gonna bite. We're the same as you were 383 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: in your position before. So it does present a very 384 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: unique perspective, you know for Kenney Picket, especially being the quarterback. 385 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: Um that's coming out. If you've watched Ben Roethlisberger and 386 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: you have Mike text to you, you're gonna You're gonna 387 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: want to go ask questions. And like you said, having 388 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: that relationship, I think was was a key to saying that, 389 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: because it gives you a way of formulizing your mind 390 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: on how you're approaching it. What's the necessary what do 391 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: I need to keep improving upon? And I'm getting it 392 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: directly from a future potential employer's perspective, and not only that, 393 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: you're getting a chance to perhaps pick the brain of 394 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: a future you know, if you've happen the running and 395 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: how you doing, or we just even watching how he 396 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: goes about the work in practice. And so you said, 397 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: I know, Matt when when Matt Williamson was rooting for Pitt, uh, 398 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: he said he would always time things up when he 399 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: had recruits in to walk out the Steelers are practicing. 400 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: How about that the work in Yeah, you see the hair, Yeah, 401 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: it's that, it's that long. It's not c G. I 402 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: A big tackle over there, that's Max Starks. Yeah, he's 403 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: he's pretty big. Yeah, I mean, and I think that's 404 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: one of the cool things. Like you said, it's a 405 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: great recruiting tool for colleges, but if you do decide 406 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: to go there, and you do decide to stay in 407 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: that school, you get such a unique perspective at all. 408 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: And even for a coach that's coaching at pitt right 409 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: over and ask my my my equal over there in 410 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: a position, hey, what are you guys doing to do this? 411 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: You can actually have that interfacing. So it's a very 412 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: unique situation in the NFL for the Steelers and the 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: Panthers to have that kind of cross synergy. And we 414 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: also stadium together, so everything is shared um between us, 415 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: so it's it's really cool. Unfortunately we have to share 416 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: the parking lot on our side with the pit players. Yeah, 417 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: that's that's that's not as good. I probably not as 418 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: good from the media side yet because that's a very 419 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: small lot. You gotta do a little bit of extra 420 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: walking there every year when you get done with training 421 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: camp and you go back to we're even I guess 422 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: even it's more training camp. So when you get back 423 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: from training camp and and Pit is in its training 424 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: camp and and the Steelers are doing you know they're 425 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: going they're coming back from from Latrobe, there is new parking. Anyway, 426 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: Mac is on high alert. He is a ray of 427 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: sunshine that time of year every year. Nothing wrong with that. 428 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, nothing's getting past Mac. But Max also 429 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: not not a happy camp. And you think about that, 430 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: it's like we're all there, and so the upper class 431 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: they don't want to ride the team bus back to Oakland. 432 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: So they're like I'm driving. Now, I'm driving. Hey, we're 433 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: hopping in. Okay, we'll get out of here. So as 434 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: the problem is you have like, what forty spaces over there? Yeah, 435 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: not many because it's in between the UPMC Sports Complex 436 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: and the actual indoor facility. Yeah. So yeah, and then 437 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: you got to the people coming in to get there, 438 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: you know whatever done at the at the UPMC, and 439 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to sneak in there and find parking. It's yeah, 440 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: it's a mess. Yeah, it can. It can be brutal. 441 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I have noticed too. I think I think some of 442 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: those guys leave their cars there. Free parking, free parking. 443 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: You don't have to don't have to worry about parking 444 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: in Oakland. You're gonna be there at the facility just 445 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: about every single day if if you need one. Yeah, 446 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: I've I've seen, I've seen some. I've seen some some 447 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: cutthroat battles between try and sneak in to make a 448 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: parking spot here fit in somewhere over there. My pursuit 449 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: is pretty good at that. I'll tell you he's he's 450 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: able to create some space. UM. I wanted to ask 451 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: you guys to um saw Malik Willis saying that he 452 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: would not be doing anything except for throwing this week 453 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: at the combine. Any any red flag they're any concern. 454 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: They're just that's kind of the nature of the beast now, 455 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: and these guys know that they have their pro day 456 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: as well part the course. I mean, I mean, if 457 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: some guys feel better running on their field, they like 458 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: those conditions better, they're gonna do it. And and here's 459 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: the thing, as long as he's doing the actual skills, 460 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: specific drills, that's all that said. He's gonna throw. Lamar 461 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: Jackson didn't run at all, period, But you watched the 462 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: tape and you knew Lamar Jackson was fast, So you know, 463 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: I know Malik Willis is fast. Yeah, I've seen the 464 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: tape and and and you've seen it and people have 465 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: seen it live from different prospective. The kid, there's nothing 466 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: left to prove on that side. I mean. And like 467 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: I said, these drills, when you're getting to a bench press, 468 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: you're getting to the vertical jump and all those things 469 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: transferable for some positions. But now, I mean, I equate this. 470 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: The bench press is only good if you got pancaked 471 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: and you have to lift a guy off of you. 472 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like, the inclient press is more representative for 473 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot of to play from a down to up, 474 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: whether it's D line, O line and outside lineback or 475 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: our hand down linebacker that can stand up or you 476 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: play it in like that's a realistic running back. It's 477 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: a realistic type of thrusting or movement. Bench Press is cute. 478 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: It's a marathon type of type of activity, and it 479 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: really doesn't translate necessarily to functional strength always because again, 480 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: some guys have much longer arms than others, and if 481 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: you've got short a later arms, you know, you're like 482 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: a Toronto Toronto source. You can, Yeah, you're gonna you're 483 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna get fifty reps up or forty reps up, you know, 484 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean you're stronger than the guy who 485 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: got you know exactly. And I think the biggest thing 486 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: is is that it's the darrest of it. So why 487 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: put yourself through undo those type of things that are ancillary. 488 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: You know. It's like if you're if you're gonna deal work, 489 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: do your field work, not necessarily say you didn't need 490 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: to run a forty because lord knows, I was about 491 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: to pull the camp string and I was like shut 492 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: it down, and it was like it's not it didn't 493 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: really matter. I'm like I got out there, I did, 494 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I did all my offensive line drills. I did the 495 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: three cone and the twin and the and the five 496 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: tin five shuttle. So it done. And do that aspect 497 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: which you feel comfortable with, and then whatever you need 498 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: to clean up or somebody feels you have to do something, 499 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: when it comes pro today, then you do it. Then 500 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Remember when Orlando Brown was here and he was in 501 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: my group and had just an awful, awful day of 502 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: of but he's a functioning pie level and a tackle. 503 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, well he was in fat camp before the combine. 504 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: That's essentially what it was. And that and and it 505 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: looked as such, right, because you know, I'll never forget. 506 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting over there at the Press like, man, I 507 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to see Zeus's son, you know, because you know, 508 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm like, shoot, Zeus was a legend 509 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: over there in Baltimore. Yeah, there's a dude you didn't 510 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: mess with some Letucye was Zeus's Son's got ten. I was. 511 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't even look. And then he ran like a 512 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: six second forty and it was just awful and well 513 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: he and he and he took his shirt off and 514 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: I was just like, Okay, this kid's trying to just 515 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: cut weight, like that's what he did for the last 516 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: two months, was cut weight. But then you look at it, right, 517 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: pro bowler about to get paid functions. He understands the 518 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: length of his arms, and he knows how to how 519 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: to play the position. So those things like they're hit 520 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: or miss and they're at best ancillary that that they help, 521 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: They help build a person's confidence. If you're going to 522 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: draft a kid, hey, look at these measurables. This is 523 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: why we pay him, not because he was the only 524 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: thing rought right. And that's why because it was the 525 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: sixth to take somebody. You can't you can't rely. And 526 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: I know fans get caught up in this on a 527 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: guy's for d time or a guy you know what, 528 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: how far? How much of the jump? And and you 529 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: know what was his three cone drill? That stuff is 530 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: all nice, but it's it just reinforces the team view 531 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: of the guy. You know, if a guy's super he 532 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: ran them four three. I gotta go back and look 533 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: at this now, Okay, did that translate to his his 534 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: play speed? Where is you know that that that didn't 535 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: show up? You know, yeah, he's fast, but he didn't 536 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: play fast as a track speed or is it actual 537 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: game speed, because there's a lot of guys who are 538 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm faster in game than I am. Just okay, 539 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: I have to spread out and get into this track stance. 540 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Does this look natural? Guys? Does this look natural? I'm 541 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: scrunched up right now. I feel like I feel like 542 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: my toes are gonna fall off, you know. Or let 543 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: me get in my position as offensive, sit down, and 544 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: let me go hit you. That's just kind of the 545 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: way that like Casey Hampton used to see. He's like, 546 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: I got two plays, I go left, I go right, 547 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, running forty yards here? What's so if the 548 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: thing is if I have to run forty or something 549 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: either went really great or really wrong. Yeah, that's what 550 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: That's what bats always says to the only time I 551 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: was ever running forty yards was just turning around chasing 552 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver who you know, on a busted coverage 553 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: she was. It was running down the rare occasion James 554 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Harrison picks fling off at the goal line and you 555 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: gotta go a hundred yards that way. There you go. 556 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: He picked a good time, and you won't give it 557 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: to the shade town and keeps trying to take it 558 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: from you. It's every time I see, every time, every 559 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: time you see run up to him and like give 560 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: me the ball, go block Larry. I mean, if if 561 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Larry would have had five more yards, Larry would have 562 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: had him exactly, didn't get picked off by his own 563 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: teammate when he was running out of bounds and stand bounds. 564 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: Larry had problem before we go to break here more 565 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: inconsequential for offensive lineman the forty or the bench press 566 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: bench press, Yeah, I mean, because like at the end 567 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: of the day, it's one of those things like if 568 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm looking at an offensive tackle, I'm hoping he's not 569 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: doing forty five. I mean, it would be amazing to 570 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: see him do forty five reps. But at the end 571 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: of the day, Atlanta Brown had ten. Again, he probably 572 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: if he's doing forty five reps a shorter on shorter, yeah, exactly, 573 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the long arms. You're not physically gonna 574 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: be able to do it. So and also it's not 575 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: a realistic position of mechanics for us, like bio mechanically, 576 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: this is not the position that you need be in 577 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: to show off your strength. Show me your squat, show me, 578 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: show me your incline press, show me something on an angle. 579 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: That's when I believe it, you know, not not sitting 580 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: on your back, you know, in your underwear doing a 581 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: flatback bench, you know, I mean that, So that one's 582 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: more I mean, and when you do the forty. Honestly, 583 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: the twenty yard splits was a matter. Yeah, how do 584 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: you get to the twenty yard because at the most, 585 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: if you're on a screen as a guard, a center, 586 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: and even some of the tackle wider screens for the 587 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: tight ends, that you're gonna be running ten tin yard. 588 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: So you want to see what the acceleration level is 589 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: to be able to get from this position and get 590 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: to that position. But the forty at the end doesn't matter. 591 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: I think that's well said. There you go. I think 592 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that like to hear that 593 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: forty doesn't matter. It matters for the fans and for 594 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: the you know, the easy and I think there there's 595 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of like a parallel there where it's the same 596 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: conversation in a way about like analytics and sports. And 597 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I think you kind of touched on this. If you 598 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: see something numbers wise that backs up your eye test 599 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: as well too. That's the blend that you're looking for. 600 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: If you thought that this guy plays really fast, he 601 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: tests really fast. Okay, you know the numbers are telling 602 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: me what what what my are saying as well too. 603 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of the balance. But you're 604 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: right that that's wide receivers, that's running backs, that's defensive backs, 605 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: and not guys that are playing in the trenches. It's 606 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: the X files. I want to believe, you know, you know, 607 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's when it comes down to. You just 608 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: want to find things that either verify for the good 609 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: or verify for the bad, which you already know about 610 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: a guy. And that's all this is. This is just 611 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: simply confirmation or denial. That's that's all we're doing here. Right. 612 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a break, we'll close out, we come 613 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: back on the other side. 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Member f D 623 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: I C Gentleman Quarterbacks, tight ends, wide receivers at the 624 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: podium today and I was looking during the break, Um, 625 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, kind of one of these ESPN melk keyper 626 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: big draft guides that they put together, and they just 627 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: released a few hours ago, and I'm looking at the 628 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: little section on the Steelers and this caught my eye. 629 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: Had be interesting to get your thoughts on this positional 630 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: needs for the Steelers quarterback, offensive line, inside linebacker, and safety. 631 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Not that I disagree with any of those. I'm surprised 632 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver isn't on that list. You've got two guys 633 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: under contract right now. Um, I think we all think that. 634 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: James Washington, you know, there was the whispers, the leaks 635 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: from his agent to Adam Schef there during training camp 636 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: that that he was looking for more opportunity. He's like 637 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: a guy that's going to seek employment elsewhere. Juju. Obviously 638 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: a big question mark as well too. Is that to 639 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: say that maybe of all the things that we're discussing 640 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and all the position and we know the replacements for 641 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and how you need to retool the trenches, 642 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: but it feels like maybe wide receiver as a as 643 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: a need for the Steelers is getting pushed to the 644 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: back burner a little bit. You know, I don't think. 645 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting pushed to the back burner 646 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: just because the Steelers know how to go find Maybe 647 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: that's part and I think that's why that's the one thing, 648 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing we can say when you 649 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: look at it over the fifteen year span that Mike 650 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: Tomlin has been here, he's always fine found those gems 651 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: wherever they were and it was never a question when 652 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: he pulled the trigger and a guy that could fit 653 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: in immediately in play. So I think that's kind of 654 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: something that it's become more of an afterthought from the 655 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: web because you're going to find that guy. You're gonna 656 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: hear about a guy in the seventh round that is 657 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: out of a school, out of a max school. I 658 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: got that guy for you right now. His name is 659 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: Sky Moore on Western Michigan. There actually went to high 660 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: school with Mike Tomlins was the quarterback at Shady Side 661 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: Academy throwing the ball too. Tomlin, Well, there there always 662 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: their innection. There's always a connection. So I mean so 663 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: and so when I look at that, that doesn't surprise me. Um, 664 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: that's not on there because it's always at They're always 665 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna go find you play so many of them. Yeah, yeah, 666 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: so I mean so, yeah, it's there. But it's one 667 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: of the things. I think those are the more pressing. 668 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: If we're going on order of importance, You've got you've 669 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: got to get the offensive side of the ball and defensive. 670 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: I would say the line and O line are really 671 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: mind two top top priorities like and I think you 672 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: can fill someone in free agency a little bit easier. 673 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: You can find those again that that middle class of players, 674 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: that guy that's gonna get, you know, make four million 675 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: dollars this year, that comes in and the NFL snaps 676 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: and you can immediately it's not there's not a big 677 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: learning curve for him that you would have with a 678 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: rookie at that position who you're gonna be drafting to 679 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: potentially play, you know, serious snaps for you right out 680 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: of the gate. Um you know, you can get the 681 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: safety market over the last few years has just been 682 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: those guys don't get paid and they shuffle they overround 683 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: pretty freely. Um, there's just certain positions guard the same thing. 684 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: You can find those guys that are that are you know, 685 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: long time NFL players, but they're just not getting big 686 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: time NFL contracts. Yeah, and B B level players who 687 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: aren't going to break the bank. But you can even 688 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: find some A level players that you know, I mean, 689 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: we've we've seen some guys that that that change places 690 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: like that. And you know, I think it was um 691 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: trying to think of the safety Uh was a Boston 692 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Trey Boston, Yeah, Trey Boston. I would say he was 693 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: changing teams every year and every year and you look 694 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: up at the end of year he has five interceptions. 695 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Is like, why does nobody want this guy? And you 696 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: look at Tyrone Matthew as well, right, you know everybody 697 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: thought he was losing a step in Arizona, goes to 698 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: Casey and has a received There's always those opportunities for 699 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: guys to continue to grow and guys who like change 700 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: the scenery changes everything, wife's the slate clean. And there's 701 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: also I think especially in football more than any other sport. 702 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: How do you fit into the scheme? You know, you 703 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: may just just because you you didn't work out in 704 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: one stop, their scheme may not have fit you as 705 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: well as the next team team does. And so you 706 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: go there and all of a sudden, where'd this come from? 707 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: Why is this guy so much better when the scheme 708 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: fits a skill set? Bet? Yeah, I mean and and 709 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: literally different players there are. There are that many different 710 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: schematics on offense and defense. So you know, just like 711 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: with offensive linemen, right, and that that's my area. Some 712 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: guys are great at zone, other guys are great at gap, 713 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: other guys are great at pass. Pro like if you 714 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: have it your knees, because you realize when you're drafted, 715 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: you're drafted off of potential that you can potentially fit 716 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: this even if it's not your true fit. Whereas in 717 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: free agency, I get to pick where I want to go. 718 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: I get to analyze this, so usually the second time around, 719 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the best choice for you because you 720 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: feel like you play better and you also know what 721 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: you like. At this point, at this age, for young guys, 722 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: you know what you don't know. You know, I don't 723 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: know if I like Brussels sprouts yet, but I have 724 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: to try to try him. I've never had a Brussels sprout, 725 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: so I don't know if I'm gonna like it is 726 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: a little lettuce or is it something that's flavorful. I 727 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: don't know. So that's where you kind of gets like, hey, 728 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: this is all we got. It looks like it looks 729 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: like before. It looks like it looks like it looks 730 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: like it doesn't taste like it. And you know, I 731 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: think West the the idea that, um, you know, Ziggy 732 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: Hood is a perfect example. People in Pittsburgh killed Ziggy Hood. 733 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Well he's he's you know, he's terriblested. The guy played 734 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: ten years in the NFL. He was not he was 735 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: not a quote unquote bust. If you last fell, you 736 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: may have just been miscasting what you're being asked to do. 737 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: James Ferrier is another example of that. You know, the 738 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Jets just couldn't decide to see an inside linebackers an 739 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. We're going to change schemes. Here comes to 740 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: put him inside, need to heat and he thrives. James Harrison, 741 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: there's how many times can you get cut by teams 742 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: and then look at what's your career today being Steve McClendon. 743 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: Another Steve Stevie mc I mean has lasted time and 744 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: everybody's like, well, he wasn't. He was going the Jets, 745 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: al Jandravillaeuava. Eagles were as a pass rusher. Yes, exactly 746 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: when when he first was in camp with them, he 747 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: was he was lining up on the edge and they 748 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: were trying to make him go get the quarterback. He 749 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: comes to pittsburghs which is the sides of the ball, 750 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: and that can that can we We had a Fran 751 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: Duffy on from the Eagles yesterday and he was talking 752 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts and how every year at Alabama he 753 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: had a different offensive coordinator. Then he went to Oklahoma 754 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: and had two different offensive coordinators, and now his two 755 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: years with the Eagles he's had a different staff every 756 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: single year. I think you're right. Fit, Stability, all that 757 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: stuff is a huge part of this equation that I 758 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of times fans just want to neglect 759 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: because the guy's either good or the guy stinks. There 760 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: can't be any minutia there. Yeah, and well, and every 761 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: team is going to have their allegiance, right, they're going 762 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: to have their feelings towards it when you don't do 763 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: right by their team. And you know, sometimes you can 764 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: endear a guy that you just love him because because 765 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: of who they are. But at the end of the day, 766 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: not everything fits. And that's why, just like this drafting us, 767 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna be a fit on the draft. That's 768 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: why you have one every single year, and that's why 769 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: you're drafting at the same positions like year in and 770 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: year out, trying to get it right. I mean, we 771 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: think about teams that have have guys who they think 772 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: are the guys, but then they're drafting for the future 773 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it comes down 774 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: to money as well as well as it does for 775 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: the player scheme and fit. Because if if I can't 776 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: if I don't have the opportunity to best, why do 777 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: I want to be here? You know? Why? Why Why 778 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: am I gonna keep pounding? If I'm really a four 779 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: three type of just slashing dtackle, I want to blow 780 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: up the field. A two gapping three three does not 781 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: fit you at all, and it takes years to transition 782 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: to that. But you also have to a taste for that, 783 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: and if you don't, you just go like, hey, I 784 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: want to blow up field. I just want to. I 785 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: just want to cause havoc and then just get back 786 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. I want to cause havoc. 787 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: But some guys like a Casey Hamptons, right listen, I 788 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: just want I'm gonna absorb all human beings, like like 789 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: the thing you know from the Fantastic Four, and you 790 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: can't hurt me, and I'm just gonna be a bowling 791 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: and You're not going to move me out of this spot, 792 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: and this is where I'm gonna be at and I 793 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: go where I want to go. Yeah, you know, so 794 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: it's just different strokes for different folks. Yeah, absolutely weak, 795 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: because I go where I want to go. Guys in 796 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: this draft for sure mentioned to circling back to that 797 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: that safety position and short conversation we had that you 798 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: guys think Emmon's back. I would I think they would 799 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: in in an ideal world, they would like to have 800 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: him back. He pairs well with Minka, He's worked together, 801 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: he's worked with Mincan. Now that all three years that 802 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: Mink has been with the Steelers, um, they've they've grown 803 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: accustomed to you know, I can give him a look 804 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: and he knows around me and that kind of stuff. 805 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: But you know, it comes down to it, does he 806 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: want to test the open market and perhaps get more money? Um? 807 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I mean, I think he 808 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: got a bad rap early in his career in Pittsburgh. Um, 809 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: He's never gonna be a big interception guy. He's gonna 810 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: be a big turnover guy. What he does do well, however, 811 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: is he played as every snap he's always available, which 812 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: can't be overlooked. And if look at the Steelers tight 813 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: end coverage numbers since they since in the last three 814 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: years with when Terrell Evans is kind of settled into 815 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: that spot, they've been one of the better teams covering 816 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: the tight end over that time period and he's been 817 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: a part of that. And it was the opposite before 818 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: he assumed that because but you don't see so often 819 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: with coverage guys, is all those times where he did 820 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: his job correctly and the quarterback didn't throw his way. 821 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: So if you do, and there's you can look at 822 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: the the numbers from okay this this time, okay that 823 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: the tight ends are getting a hundred forty targets for 824 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: against the Steelers and they're catching this many passes, and 825 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the last couple of years, it's 826 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: like the tight ends are getting eighty nine targets and 827 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: then you know they're like, okay, what's different here? And 828 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: Terrell Evans is a big part of that. You know, 829 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: you don't see when they quarterback looks tight ends cover, 830 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: I can't throw there, you know well, and from a broadcast, 831 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: if you're watching it at home on television, you're not 832 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna see that angle. You're not gonna see that. So 833 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: it takes deeper dive into the numbers or into the 834 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: actual play style of film. Understand, Hey, he is cutting 835 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: off a lane. He is doing his job. It might 836 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: translate into stats that everybody loves to see, we use 837 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, but it's like, no, 838 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing my job so well that they don't even 839 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: want to think about it. So that makes it cool. Yeah, no, no, 840 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you guys that That's obviously gonna be a 841 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: one to keep an eye on, along with a lot 842 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: in the secondary. There could be pretty significant change. It's 843 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting interesting to see if they attempt to 844 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: get some of these guys signed before free agency starts 845 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: here in two weeks, and how they prioritize that. Um, 846 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: I would think that the cornerback position is one that 847 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: they would like to get something done before those guys 848 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: hit the free agent market, because those guys get paid. 849 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: Um you know, I know people, I've seen this a lot. 850 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: While the Steelers doesn't look like the Patriots are going 851 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: to do anything with j. C. Jackson. G C. Jackson 852 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: is gonna get twenty million a year. I mean affore that, 853 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, but you can you can afford to give 854 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, a guy like a Killer Weatherspoon you know, 855 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, six million a year or something along those lines. 856 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: But you can't. You're not gonna pay up to I mean, 857 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: that blows your entire free agent budget. If you thought 858 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: you were one, you thought you were one defensive back 859 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: away and that's not the case. That's not the case. 860 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: You need to You need volume here. You need to 861 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: you know, you need several guys, not just one. Yeah, 862 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: you need quantity with a mixed in with some close 863 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: and like it ain't like, no no offense to j. C. Jackson, 864 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: but he's not Rod Woodson, Dion Sanders, for God's sakes, 865 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: or even Yeah, he's not that. Yeah, he's not that. 866 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: He's good in the schemes that he plays, like Malcolm 867 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Butler was, you know those couple of years when he 868 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: when he made the play during the Super Bowl. Like, 869 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: but I mean, but when you look at the ftality 870 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: of work, you now, with three four wide receiver sets 871 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: being the norm, I need to j C. Right, you 872 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: need multiple guys that can Joe Steven Nelson because if 873 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: you've got one good cornerback, he's never going to see 874 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: the ball just throw on the other side of the field. 875 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: That and the other guy's gonna get uh seven targets 876 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: and you know during the season, and they're gonna and 877 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna purposely scheme so that he can't travel with 878 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: him every play to get their tight receiver open with 879 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: some opportunities. So yeah, now, so I mean I agree, 880 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: if you have money to blow, yeah, that's when you 881 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: can say we're spending towards that because you have to 882 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: do that ninety plus percent spend, you know. And if 883 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: you're a team that's well below that's like, let's just 884 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: go get j C. Jackson. That puts it, that puts 885 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: us in good. Yeah, we're good. According to ESPN and 886 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: mel kiper it will be a successful offseason if the 887 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: Steelers find their next franchise quarterback. You could say that 888 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: about about teams in the league, in half the league. Yeah, 889 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: I asked the Jets, how how well that's been going? 890 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: Where the Browns for all those Browns for all those years, 891 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, I mean they had one with Stafford, 892 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: but they've still been trying around and up around them. Yeah, 893 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: I'm I'm with Max what we discussed yesterday. I think 894 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: he's starting the trenches this year. You build trenches out 895 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: and then when you think that that out there, you're 896 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,439 Speaker 1: gonna have a next go get him. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, 897 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to do the Jets thing and bring 898 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: in Sam Donald, bring in Zack Wilson asked him to 899 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: be the savior without much around him. And uh, And 900 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't think the Steelers are gonna do that. I 901 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna operate that way. I think, you know, 902 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: even if they do draft a quarterback this year, if 903 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: they go that, he's not going to play right away. 904 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: He would have to win. He would have to win 905 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: the job to play right away. It's not going to 906 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: be a situation where he comes in and go, Okay, 907 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: you're the he's the starter from day one when they 908 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: opened O T A s A Mini camps, it would 909 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: be Mason Rudolph taking the first snap with the first 910 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: first team offense. That's just how they operate. It's how 911 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: they've always operated, always operate. I mean even for Ben 912 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: Ben coming. Ben was a third string quarterback when he 913 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: came in, and literally by process of elimination by injuries, 914 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: he got to the starting role sooner than they expected. 915 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: But it wasn't something that was going to be given 916 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: just because you're a top fifteen pick. I mean, it's 917 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: one of the things. I still expect us to go 918 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: get somebody in free agency at the quarterback position to 919 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: bring him in to compete. But yeah, rookie quarterback, I 920 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: don't see that. Mac's Dale Lali Wesley Uhler with you 921 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: here are coverage continues three hours today in the books, 922 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: three more hours to go. When we come back in 923 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: the one o'clock hour, we'll see if maybe we can 924 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: nab a guest here to join us for a segment 925 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: as well. To a reminder, our coverage brought to you 926 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: by First National Bank and started I see more Steelers coverage. 927 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: On the other side, you're listening to centur