WEBVTT - NFL Pro Week 7 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL pro week seven preview show. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody including your mama.

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<v Speaker 3>Touchdown 49ers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to NFL Pro. What a show we have

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<v Speaker 3>for you today. We're going to preview some of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest matchups that we have here in week seven. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to take a look at which offensive and defensive

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<v Speaker 3>coordinators are absolutely in their bag with creativity. Maybe to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where they're getting some head coaching looks. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about some movement in the front office.

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<v Speaker 3>GM already can before we get to halfway through the season.

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<v Speaker 3>And NFL teams are taking penalties on purpose. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to explain so much of that and more.

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<v Speaker 2>What a show. What a show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fun slate this week. We have some

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<v Speaker 1>premier matchups. We have some interesting scheme trends. To your point,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an interesting... penalty trend that I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would see where teams are benefiting from taking penalties.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what happens in the offseason about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, a lot to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything you work for is for a moment like this.

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<v Speaker 3>All the hard work is for moments like this. What

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<v Speaker 3>we have to start off with here is a true

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<v Speaker 3>premier matchup, not just for the week, but for the

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<v Speaker 3>entire 2026 NFL season. And that is the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs versus the Seattle Seahawks. You're a man of culture,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm assuming that you have seen the movie Troy.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is a line in the movie where the

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<v Speaker 3>king basically shouts over at the walls of Troy and says,

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<v Speaker 3>Is this what you left me for? And Kenneth Walker

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<v Speaker 3>is the subject here of that quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth of Troy?

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<v Speaker 3>Touchdown! Ken Walker III wins!

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Helen of Troy and Kenneth Walker, both former Spartans,

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<v Speaker 1>so probably should start with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at you.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd. What can I say?

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<v Speaker 3>That was beautiful, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done.

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<v Speaker 5>Well done.

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<v Speaker 1>What more can you say about his start to the year?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at most rushing yards per game in

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<v Speaker 1>a season all time, he's on pace for a top

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<v Speaker 1>three season in the history of the sport. OJ Simpson

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<v Speaker 1>was at 143.1 in 1973. Jim Brown in 1963, 133.1.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Walker's at 133 flat. He's a tenth of a

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<v Speaker 1>yard behind Jim Brown's all-time best season. This is ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>what he's done so far for this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>60-yard run by Ken Walker III!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the kingdom!

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you've been here all along!

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like Patrick Mahomes hasn't had to do a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot relative to the past few years in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City where everything was dependent on Patrick Mahomes. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to sit back and do nothing. He does

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<v Speaker 1>have to make his three to four Patrick Mahomes-y type

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<v Speaker 1>plays every single week. But going from needing your quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to make four plays for you every single week, from

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<v Speaker 1>making mandatory you have to make 12 plays for us

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<v Speaker 1>every single week to win, He's got to feel great.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at just the sheer volume of missed

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<v Speaker 1>tackles that he's forced, he has 47 missed tackles on runs,

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<v Speaker 1>nine more than the next closest player. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had their bye week. He's played less games than

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<v Speaker 1>most running backs in the league. He's still at 275

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of yardage after missed tackles. That still leads

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<v Speaker 1>the league after their bye week. Plus 277 rushing yards

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<v Speaker 1>over expected. 100 more than the next closest player with

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<v Speaker 1>one less game played. I could go on and on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. Like every single stat is just first, first, first, first.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting about it, defenses haven't really reacted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>They've played a lot of light boxes against Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because they're really afraid of these crossing routes that

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Bien-Ami is known for. And spoiler alert, they're leading

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<v Speaker 1>the league in terms of crossing route yardage per game

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<v Speaker 1>again this year. The last time Bien-Ami was OC in 2022,

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<v Speaker 1>they led the league in crossing route yardage per game.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, they're leading again at 88.2 yards per game

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<v Speaker 1>on crossing routes. The next closest team is less than

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<v Speaker 1>half that. And so defenses are playing these two high

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<v Speaker 1>safety structures because they are terrified of these crossing routes

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<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to use these two high structures to

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<v Speaker 1>cut the crossers. And a byproduct of that is. Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Walker against light boxes. And he's just destroying everybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't, dear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you look at last year's Kansas City Chiefs team,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there wasn't really much of a threat out of

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<v Speaker 3>the backfield. So they were facing light boxes on 76.4%

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<v Speaker 3>of their plays. Teams were basically telling the Chiefs like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, run the ball, see what happens. This year,

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<v Speaker 3>despite having Kenneth Walker, it's down, but it's only down

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<v Speaker 3>to 70.3%. That's not near the percentage that you would

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<v Speaker 3>think for a player that's having as much success on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, where the number one part of the game

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<v Speaker 3>plan for a lot of teams, you would think, is

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<v Speaker 3>stop Kenneth Walker. But to your point, they're facing more

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<v Speaker 3>split safety looks this year than last year. 38.1% in 2025. 44.4%

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<v Speaker 3>this year. Team's number one concern here is actually stopping

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<v Speaker 3>the crosser.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of times the route drives your front, your

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<v Speaker 5>coverage opportunities as well. You can look at it from

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<v Speaker 5>a top-down perspective as well. If you're in split safety,

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<v Speaker 5>you tend to have a little bit more layers to

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<v Speaker 5>your defense, a little more overlap.

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's kind of asking the question, what's wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with Sam Darnold right now? Because it's not the same

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<v Speaker 3>for him. When you look at his 2026 season, 77.4

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<v Speaker 3>passer rating, 6.9 yards per attempt, 40.5 success rate, and

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<v Speaker 3>a negative EPA per dropback. When you look at last year,

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<v Speaker 3>even the part of his schedule or his year, the

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<v Speaker 3>second half of the season where you would say that

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<v Speaker 3>he quote unquote struggled, it's not as bad. 83.2 passer rating,

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<v Speaker 3>7.2 yards per attempt, 49.5 success rate, still a negative

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<v Speaker 3>EPA per dropback, but not too bad. When Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 3>was on, though, like the playoffs in the early parts

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<v Speaker 3>of the season, I mean, it was night and day.

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<v Speaker 3>The quarterback rating was over 100 for both of those

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<v Speaker 3>sample sizes for him. So I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people look at this and go, you know, is it

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<v Speaker 3>just something that he's dealing with where it was the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing during the second half of last season and

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<v Speaker 3>will he kind of bounce back? I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 3>for as much as it's a Sam Darnold issue, I

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<v Speaker 3>think the root is the lack of Kenneth Walker. Ted

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<v Speaker 3>Wynn did a great job of breaking this down. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a tweet from him promoting an article. I went

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<v Speaker 3>and read the article and it was fantastic. And I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of went and got some NGS stats that supplement

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<v Speaker 3>what Ted was saying where teams just aren't afraid of

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<v Speaker 3>the Seahawks running game. Last year, they faced one high

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<v Speaker 3>coverages 51.5% of the time because teams wanted that extra

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<v Speaker 3>defender closer to the line of scrimmage to stop Kenneth Walker.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, they're not nearly as afraid. It's only 38%.

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<v Speaker 3>Lightbox rate last year, 59.2%. Teams wanted to stop Kenneth Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, 68.5%.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, they're daring the Seahawks to run the ball

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<v Speaker 3>because they know they're not going to be as explosive.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're just straight up not. So for Sam Darnold,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more is on his plate because there is

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<v Speaker 3>not that threat of the electric player out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately, as he's trying to mitigate that and attack

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<v Speaker 3>down the field and have more on his shoulders, the

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<v Speaker 3>only player they consistently go to for success is JSN.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that then on the other side of

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<v Speaker 3>things for the Chiefs, that lends itself to maybe what

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Spagnuolo is going to be able to defend against

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<v Speaker 3>pretty well this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see the downstream effect of Walker no longer

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<v Speaker 1>being in Seattle just in the coverages that they're facing.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, to your point, because they faced so much

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<v Speaker 1>one high, their overall cloud rate faced, cloud rate is

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<v Speaker 1>defined as any coverage where there is a cloud corner

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out in the flat. They faced that 32.6% of

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<v Speaker 1>the time this year. That's number one in the league

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of amount of cloud looks faced. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>they were 23rd. And that was even with JSN going nuclear,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming one of like six receivers ever to have 1,800

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<v Speaker 1>plus yards in a season. And so if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at just the response that defenses have this year to JSN,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the running back that can punish that

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<v Speaker 1>response with these two high looks. just like he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now in Kansas City. So maybe these numbers would

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<v Speaker 1>be different if they still had Jadarian Price because their

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<v Speaker 1>overall explosive rate is down on the ground this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jadarian Price's individual explosive rate is high. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>he was in these games and their explosive rate was higher,

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud rate would be lower because teams would be

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<v Speaker 1>playing it similarly to how they played them when they

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<v Speaker 1>had Kenneth Walker. But right now, the only person that

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<v Speaker 1>really scares you on Seattle is JSN. So why would

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<v Speaker 1>you do anything different than what they're seeing right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Which is a problem against this Chiefs team, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you look at how Mansour Delane has played over the

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<v Speaker 3>last two weeks specifically, I mean, his QBR allowed is

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<v Speaker 3>lower than 50. I mean, Brett, this guy's a rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only that, like he missed a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of time due to injury. I mean, he He is

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<v Speaker 3>green to playing at the pro level and he's looked unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got so many impressive one-on-one reps with Mansour Delane

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<v Speaker 3>already because his coverage skills, I think from an athletic

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<v Speaker 3>and physical standpoint, are so, so, so good that, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that he's going to totally blanket and

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<v Speaker 3>shut down JSN, but you have the rare ability to

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<v Speaker 3>play JSN in in press man coverage when you have

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<v Speaker 3>a player like that and say, Hey, you know what?

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<v Speaker 3>JSN is going to get his a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>so is the lane. And we're okay with that because

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<v Speaker 3>we're not afraid of anybody else beating us. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a problem. for Seattle. And this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a game where they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>lean on somebody else to outscore Kansas City. Because a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of teams, I think, over the last couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years have been afraid of to play jsn in man

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<v Speaker 3>coverage because it's it's jackson in the jig but he's

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<v Speaker 3>just an incredible separator he's such an artist when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to route running when when jsn is running at

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<v Speaker 3>you he does not give anything away you have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea where he is going you don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 3>going vertical you don't know if he's breaking left to

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<v Speaker 3>right you don't know if he's coming back there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>just so little tells and unless you are truly an

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<v Speaker 3>elite athlete type of a corner you don't have that

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<v Speaker 3>stop and start ability to keep up with him and

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<v Speaker 3>because of that they say well we just got to

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<v Speaker 3>play zone because if not then JSN is going to

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<v Speaker 3>burn us. But then when they play zone, guess what

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<v Speaker 3>JSN does? He finds a soft spot in the zone

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<v Speaker 3>and he's unbelievable about it. So it's almost like teams

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<v Speaker 3>are manifesting their own fear by not wanting to get

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive against him. I don't have that same thought process

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<v Speaker 3>for Steve Spagnuolo, especially with Mansour Delane now on the team.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're going to look at JSN and say,

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<v Speaker 3>we're afraid of you. I think they're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>right at him. And until him and Sam Darnold prove

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<v Speaker 3>that whatever type of close aggressive man coverage doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>against them, they're going to run it. And they're just

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<v Speaker 3>going to dare them to sort of beat them another way.

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<v Speaker 1>And hell, even if you're just looking at man coverage

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<v Speaker 1>on third down, we're seeing their overall third down yards

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<v Speaker 1>per play versus man coverage. It just fell off a

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<v Speaker 1>cliff this year. They were highest in the league last

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<v Speaker 1>year at 7.4. This year, third down against man coverage

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<v Speaker 1>at 3.2. That's dead last in the NFL. So if

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<v Speaker 1>they're not throwing to JSN, they're getting nothing. JSN individually

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<v Speaker 1>is doing just fine. You know, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most productive players in the NFL. But they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else to punish it. And so if we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a hard double on JSN in man coverage on third down,

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<v Speaker 1>or if we just have a corner that's good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do it by himself, and everybody else is on

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<v Speaker 1>an island, they have nothing else. Like, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the names that they have in their receiving core,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's Rashid Shaheed or Cooper Cup, like, you think

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<v Speaker 1>they should be able to get something, and they're getting nothing. nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And teams have started to do that more against them

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<v Speaker 1>on third down. If you're looking at third down man

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<v Speaker 1>coverage rate faced last year, they were 23rd because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that against JSN this year. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>are realizing, okay, well, if we're in man coverage, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in man coverage everywhere, which means everybody on their team

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<v Speaker 1>also has a one-on-one. So we just take care of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem and make them beat us with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>They are now at the fourth highest man coverage rate

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<v Speaker 1>faced on third down in the NFL this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>it seems counterintuitive, but it's like, okay, You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play man against a team that has multiple threats.

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<v Speaker 1>If they have one threat, sure, go ahead. Be my guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's move on to Packers-Lions next. And I've seen North

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<v Speaker 3>Divisional matchup here. Packers, man, really struggled out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 3>especially with their offense on their offensive line and their

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line, I would say. It was really slow in

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<v Speaker 3>the trenches for this team. But over the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks, they've looked really good. And Jordan Love, I

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<v Speaker 3>know it can sort of lean into the narrative of, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an up-and-down team. It's an up-and-down offense. But my goodness,

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<v Speaker 3>when it's up, it looks good for the Packers. And

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<v Speaker 3>they have an explosive offense that can absolutely keep up

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<v Speaker 3>With the Detroit Lions, who, because of their defensive woes,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of have to be great. Their foot is on

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<v Speaker 3>the gas pedal from the moment the ball is kicked off.

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<v Speaker 3>Jump and grab! J-Mo touchdown!

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to start with Jordan Love. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not even in Toyotathon yet, and he is already playing

0:13:35.059 --> 0:13:38.900
<v Speaker 1>Toyotathon Jordan Love. He is out of his mind this year.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at 30-plus air yard passes, he's got 12.

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<v Speaker 1>That's four more than the next closest player. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at deep passing yards, he's got 283 since week four.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even the entire season. That's just since week four.

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<v Speaker 1>18 deep pass attempts. That's most in the NFL. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>deep completions. That's tied for second most. Only Drake May

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<v Speaker 1>is ahead of him in that category. He is just

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<v Speaker 1>on a... And I personally love watching, you know, modern

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love. A few years ago, Jordan Love, like, you

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<v Speaker 1>would get these crazy deep completions, but then you'd also

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<v Speaker 1>get the worst pick you've ever seen in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's cut out the bad picks and just left all

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<v Speaker 1>the elite stuff. Dare I say, he is trending towards

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<v Speaker 1>being Rodgers-esque, because for a long time, that was what

0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you got with Rodgers, too. You got breathtaking deep completions,

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<v Speaker 1>threading the needle, making the most arrogant throw ever that

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<v Speaker 1>should not even be attempted but still completed. and also

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<v Speaker 1>no bad picks. And Jordan Love is trending towards that.

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<v Speaker 1>And as long as he plays like that, no Edge Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>no Micah Parsons, offensive line depth chart in shambles, no

0:14:48.020 --> 0:14:51.640
<v Speaker 1>run game, doesn't matter. They're a good team when you

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback playing like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And I mean, you look at the receivers that

0:14:55.250 --> 0:14:58.330
<v Speaker 3>he's thrown into. We knew over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 3>anytime that Christian Watson has been healthy, he's been heavily

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<v Speaker 3>impactful for this team. Second most yards in the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>on downfield targets, 444. But then the emergence of Matthew Golden,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, has meant everything. to this team because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of sort of what we talked about

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<v Speaker 3>with the Seahawks in the last segment. It's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>to have one guy that you fear. When you have

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<v Speaker 3>two players that you have to fear, it makes defense

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<v Speaker 3>exponentially harder. When you look at Matthew Golden, 501 receiving yards,

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<v Speaker 3>that's sixth most in the NFL, seventh most on downfield targets, 331.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have the player who has the second most

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<v Speaker 3>downfield receiving yards and the seventh most downfield receiving yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of those guys are played at an incredibly high level.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Watson and what he could do vertically

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<v Speaker 3>is a constant threat every single time he is on

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<v Speaker 3>the field. And then where Matthew Golden is certainly a

0:15:47.140 --> 0:15:49.810
<v Speaker 3>vertical threat, they're using Matthew Golden on a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>different things. Those deep crossers, I think he has been

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<v Speaker 3>fantastic at this season. Things to the sideline as well,

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<v Speaker 3>more of an intermediate receiver. All of that is there

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<v Speaker 3>for them to where I think that Tucker Crafts had

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<v Speaker 3>a really quiet season. I know he's been banged up

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, but I think the reason why is

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<v Speaker 3>less about Tucker Kraft and more about we got to

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<v Speaker 3>get this Matthew Golden guy the ball as much as

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<v Speaker 3>humanly possible. And so it's a great place to be

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<v Speaker 3>when there's a player that you think has the talent

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<v Speaker 3>and he's even proven that he has the talent to

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<v Speaker 3>be more involved in the offense. And you just can't

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<v Speaker 3>get him the ball enough because, well, you're having so

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<v Speaker 3>much success doing something else. And you're winning while you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing it. And I think that's where the Packers are

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Anything more on the Packers, specifically on offense,

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<v Speaker 3>before we move to... Because I think that the Packers'

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<v Speaker 3>defense versus what the Lions have been doing on the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line is also an interesting part of this matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>That to me is, even beyond Jordan Love, that's the story.

0:16:43.550 --> 0:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Gannon is calling himself a defense right now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>missing arguably his two best players on the unit. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of piecing it together a little bit here. And,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's gotten great contributions from Lucas Van Ness

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<v Speaker 1>and the safeties. And, you know, even the corners, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, have played better in the last few weeks.

0:17:01.460 --> 0:17:05.540
<v Speaker 1>But he very much is cobbling this thing together. And

0:17:05.580 --> 0:17:13.090
<v Speaker 1>he's doing a phenomenal job. In particular, he's really upped

0:17:13.130 --> 0:17:17.280
<v Speaker 1>their blitz rate. Right now they're blitzing at a 33.2% rate.

0:17:17.410 --> 0:17:20.820
<v Speaker 1>They were under a 30% blitz rate every year for

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<v Speaker 1>the last five seasons. So he's bringing more pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>compensate for the fact that they don't have Micah Parsons.

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<v Speaker 1>And schematically on the back end, what he's complemented these

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<v Speaker 1>blitz looks with, whether he's showing pressure and bringing it

0:17:35.270 --> 0:17:37.870
<v Speaker 1>or showing pressure and backing out of it, what he's

0:17:38.210 --> 0:17:42.109
<v Speaker 1>complementing that aggression with is movement on the back end.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only is he showing pressure, but he's making

0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.340
<v Speaker 1>you decipher that pressure while watching the safeties and corners

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<v Speaker 1>just go every single which way. This is something he

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot in Arizona. If you're looking at, say,

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<v Speaker 1>past Packers defenses under Jeff Halfley, they were known for

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<v Speaker 1>rotation as well, but a different kind of rotation. They

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<v Speaker 1>would start out in two high. They would bring the

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<v Speaker 1>safeties down and get into a one high look, whether

0:18:05.859 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>it was cover three, you know, three strong, three weak.

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.330
<v Speaker 1>They would bring these safeties down and basically be not

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<v Speaker 1>a hook dropper, but be a hook defender from depth,

0:18:16.830 --> 0:18:20.060
<v Speaker 1>which is all the rage across the NFL, is getting

0:18:20.100 --> 0:18:23.859
<v Speaker 1>into cover three from too high. Gannon did it differently

0:18:24.060 --> 0:18:28.020
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, more than pretty much any other defense in

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<v Speaker 1>the league last year, is where he would still rotate,

0:18:30.500 --> 0:18:32.679
<v Speaker 1>but do it the opposite way. He would start out

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<v Speaker 1>in one high and then rotate into too high at

0:18:36.330 --> 0:18:39.250
<v Speaker 1>the snap. And he's bringing that kind of philosophy to

0:18:39.290 --> 0:18:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay this year, To great effect. That's how they

0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.859
<v Speaker 1>got the interception on Dak last week. At least one

0:18:44.900 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 1>of the interceptions on Dak last week. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a three by one in the red zone, high red

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<v Speaker 1>zone in particular. And just looking at this pre-snap, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's probably not man coverage because CD is the

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<v Speaker 1>number three to the field side. The field side meaning

0:19:00.530 --> 0:19:03.149
<v Speaker 1>the wide side. Coaches call the short side of the

0:19:03.170 --> 0:19:06.649
<v Speaker 1>field the boundary side. So field and boundary. We count

0:19:06.869 --> 0:19:11.090
<v Speaker 1>outside in. One, two, three. Seedy's at the number three here.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no corner on him. There is no safety

0:19:14.609 --> 0:19:17.370
<v Speaker 1>on him, which tells us it's probably not man coverage.

0:19:18.109 --> 0:19:21.350
<v Speaker 1>And for Dak, he's thinking, oh, this is probably cover

0:19:21.470 --> 0:19:25.530
<v Speaker 1>three then, which means I might have this linebacker having

0:19:25.550 --> 0:19:29.369
<v Speaker 1>to carry Seedy Lamb vertical. And in that case, we

0:19:29.410 --> 0:19:31.910
<v Speaker 1>can beat him kind of over the top with this bender.

0:19:32.210 --> 0:19:34.230
<v Speaker 1>We run it inside the safety. We run it over

0:19:34.270 --> 0:19:37.449
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker. I make a great throw. Seedy gets me

0:19:37.490 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the touchdown. That's what he's thinking here based on this

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.600
<v Speaker 1>pre-snap presentation. Is one single high safety, no DB on

0:19:44.740 --> 0:19:48.290
<v Speaker 1>CeeDee Lamb. That is not what the coverage is. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is diabolic. by Jonathan Gannon. You have Evan Williams

0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.810
<v Speaker 1>lined up off the edge here. Evan Williams, who you

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<v Speaker 1>shouted out, I believe in our, our quarterly report here

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<v Speaker 1>on NFL pro for playing great football this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's lined up off the edge. There is no universe

0:20:04.950 --> 0:20:07.810
<v Speaker 1>where Dak thinks this is going to be quarters coverage.

0:20:08.310 --> 0:20:11.170
<v Speaker 1>How could it possibly be quarters coverage when the safety,

0:20:11.210 --> 0:20:14.540
<v Speaker 1>the boundary safety, is lined up as an edge? Let

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<v Speaker 1>alone a look where you have this safety coming over

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<v Speaker 1>and playing with the Fangio world, Jonathan Gannon's world, calls

0:20:21.220 --> 0:20:25.620
<v Speaker 1>a tricks technique where you're poaching the number three from

0:20:25.700 --> 0:20:28.619
<v Speaker 1>the back side. You can look at the line that

0:20:28.660 --> 0:20:30.790
<v Speaker 1>he sets himself on in the snap. He's not doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything other than just finding cd lamb because these dbs

0:20:35.030 --> 0:20:38.950
<v Speaker 1>know their pre-snap presentation is basically dangling this linebacker in

0:20:38.990 --> 0:20:41.540
<v Speaker 1>front of dac saying oh don't you want this touchdown

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>come get this touchdown and so evan williams is like

0:20:43.859 --> 0:20:45.419
<v Speaker 1>i know exactly where he's going to go with the

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.080
<v Speaker 1>ball so he just makes a b line on the

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<v Speaker 1>angle where he knows he can meet cd at the

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:53.869
<v Speaker 1>ball and post snap i mean this is you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell this differently from any other quarters rep like this

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<v Speaker 1>is just insane how quick they get into this look

0:21:00.330 --> 0:21:03.510
<v Speaker 1>and dac has no idea He has no idea that

0:21:03.570 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Evan Williams is the backside safety in quarters. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just insanity to have the balls to do this in

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the red zone. I cannot believe Jonathan Gannon did this.

0:21:16.260 --> 0:21:20.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you want to beat teams like the Cowboys

0:21:20.220 --> 0:21:22.140
<v Speaker 1>with that kind of quarterback and these kind of receivers,

0:21:23.140 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you have to be aggressive. You have to be dangerous.

0:21:25.740 --> 0:21:28.580
<v Speaker 1>You have to be risky. Like this Packers defense in

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<v Speaker 1>the last three weeks, 42% of all drives against them

0:21:31.500 --> 0:21:36.570
<v Speaker 1>have ended in turnovers. That is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's

0:21:36.590 --> 0:21:39.209
<v Speaker 1>because they're doing this. It's all the rotation. It's all

0:21:39.230 --> 0:21:42.949
<v Speaker 1>the blitzes. Like, man, the next time the Packers play

0:21:42.970 --> 0:21:45.429
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, we are going to see maybe one of

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<v Speaker 1>the battles of the year for just insane defensive minds

0:21:51.060 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 1>doing the most crackpot you've ever seen. Like, this is unbelievable, man.

0:21:55.740 --> 0:21:58.350
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a testament to the talent of having

0:21:58.570 --> 0:22:02.649
<v Speaker 3>three safeties that can do everything that Xavier McKinney, Evan Williams,

0:22:02.710 --> 0:22:06.790
<v Speaker 3>and also Jonathan Bullard can do. You have so much versatility.

0:22:06.810 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 3>You have so much rotation potential. There's just so much

0:22:09.950 --> 0:22:13.180
<v Speaker 3>that you can get to with those safeties. You talked

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<v Speaker 3>about specifically before that breakdown, Gannon being a little bit

0:22:16.500 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 3>more aggressive this year. I think one way that he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting more aggressive is using those mugged looks with the

0:22:21.690 --> 0:22:23.850
<v Speaker 3>linebackers at the line of scrimmage, you know, whether he'll

0:22:23.890 --> 0:22:25.930
<v Speaker 3>send them or whether he'll drop them. I just think

0:22:25.970 --> 0:22:29.770
<v Speaker 3>that creating that hesitation is something that has been to

0:22:29.810 --> 0:22:33.060
<v Speaker 3>an advantage for him this year. Lions offensive line, for

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<v Speaker 3>as much as we kind of question the interior offensive

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.260
<v Speaker 3>line for them for a while, like they are playing

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<v Speaker 3>really well, especially as of late. For the season as

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<v Speaker 3>a whole, 32.4% pressure rate allowed. That's the 11th lowest

0:22:43.780 --> 0:22:45.500
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. And in week five, 30.3% pressure rate

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.899
<v Speaker 3>overall allowed. their lowest of the season. So they're really gelling.

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.110
<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the reasons why is Drew Scruggs,

0:22:52.140 --> 0:22:56.430
<v Speaker 3>their center, is really settling in on that starting center role,

0:22:56.450 --> 0:22:58.189
<v Speaker 3>which I think is very, very important for them. And

0:22:58.210 --> 0:23:00.369
<v Speaker 3>it's important for this matchup because when you're going up

0:23:00.430 --> 0:23:02.450
<v Speaker 3>against mugged looks, whether it's a single mugged look, a

0:23:02.490 --> 0:23:05.149
<v Speaker 3>double mugged look, whatever, your center's got to be on

0:23:05.170 --> 0:23:07.670
<v Speaker 3>their P's and Q's. Your center has to have great

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<v Speaker 3>chemistry with the rest of the offensive line. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>to understand and have sort of a sixth sense. And

0:23:12.030 --> 0:23:14.940
<v Speaker 3>also just from film study, knowing who's going to be

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.180
<v Speaker 3>coming from where, where the pressure could be coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say when I kind of looked at the

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.220
<v Speaker 3>plays this year where they were facing those mug looks,

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.859
<v Speaker 3>for as much as the Lions have had much better

0:23:25.900 --> 0:23:29.220
<v Speaker 3>success on the offensive line and pass blocking overall, that

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>is an area where they've, struggled a little bit and

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I think that Scruggs has a little bit of limitations

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.580
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to range right out of the snap

0:23:39.619 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 3>like right out of the gate that first step you

0:23:41.580 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 3>know getting lateral left or right and I think that

0:23:44.580 --> 0:23:47.220
<v Speaker 3>it's just going to really require him to have a

0:23:47.340 --> 0:23:50.390
<v Speaker 3>great week of film preparation him to be communicating constantly

0:23:50.410 --> 0:23:54.070
<v Speaker 3>with that offensive line because That pressure, whether it ends

0:23:54.150 --> 0:23:56.410
<v Speaker 3>up manifesting or not, is going to be a big

0:23:56.450 --> 0:24:00.669
<v Speaker 3>deal for a race to 30 points. Because if you

0:24:00.690 --> 0:24:03.590
<v Speaker 3>look at the Detroit Lions, 32.8 points per game this year.

0:24:03.650 --> 0:24:05.780
<v Speaker 3>That's the second most in the NFL. Their average points

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:11.020
<v Speaker 3>per game in their wins, 35.7. Their average points in losses, 28.5.

0:24:11.020 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Come on, man. In their losses. So you know this

0:24:16.700 --> 0:24:18.180
<v Speaker 3>team's going to put up points and it's just a

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.010
<v Speaker 3>matter of can the Packers stick with it? um on

0:24:21.030 --> 0:24:22.650
<v Speaker 3>the their offense side of the ball and can they

0:24:22.670 --> 0:24:26.629
<v Speaker 3>do enough to slow the lions down to instead of

0:24:26.730 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 3>averaging you know five touchdowns in a game maybe closer

0:24:29.540 --> 0:24:31.500
<v Speaker 3>to that four and seeing if you can squeak out

0:24:31.540 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 3>a win while they still score 28.

0:24:33.380 --> 0:24:36.100
<v Speaker 2>Points i don't need the numbers i don't need the

0:24:36.260 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 2>well here's where we're at at third down percentage here's

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 2>what we're that's that does i don't need all that

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.379
<v Speaker 2>i know what that is i need to know schematically

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>what can we improve on.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about that uh Subject that we teased at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Penalties.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? What's up with all of the penalties that we

0:24:53.780 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 3>have this season? Offensive yards taken away from penalties here

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:04.859
<v Speaker 3>in 2026. 6,199. Shout out to the people over at

0:25:04.980 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 3>NGS getting us that data. That is the most since

0:25:08.940 --> 0:25:14.220
<v Speaker 3>at least the turn of the century. Since the new millennia.

0:25:14.820 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>When we looked deeper into that, delay of game penalties

0:25:19.140 --> 0:25:20.940
<v Speaker 3>are up. Because when you look at, okay, there's a

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:24.180
<v Speaker 3>lot more penalties around the NFL. You go, why? You

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.530
<v Speaker 3>start to get into the why. You naturally ask the question, why?

0:25:26.810 --> 0:25:29.250
<v Speaker 3>And then you want to know what penalties are higher.

0:25:29.369 --> 0:25:30.389
<v Speaker 1>Is it holding? Is it?

0:25:30.740 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Is it pass interference? What is it? What was the

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.330
<v Speaker 3>most penalty? And we found that delay of game was

0:25:37.550 --> 0:25:42.790
<v Speaker 3>up massively. 98 delay of game penalties through week six. And, Brett,

0:25:42.830 --> 0:25:43.889
<v Speaker 3>if you go all the way back to 2000, the

0:25:43.930 --> 0:25:48.290
<v Speaker 3>turn of the century, the new millennium, 75 in 2007

0:25:48.290 --> 0:25:51.910
<v Speaker 3>was the closest that we've had. So we've got 98.

0:25:51.910 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 3>We've got 23 more delay of game penalties than the

0:25:55.700 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 3>second highest year, which is all the way back in 2007.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 3>So something is up here. And you and I kind

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.700
<v Speaker 3>of think that there's no way that teams are just

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.449
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden bad at this, right? It's not like, oh,

0:26:07.490 --> 0:26:08.149
<v Speaker 3>like something's good.

0:26:08.390 --> 0:26:08.929
<v Speaker 1>Some of them are.

0:26:20.190 --> 0:26:23.970
<v Speaker 3>We thought there's a lot of more pre-snap motion that

0:26:24.010 --> 0:26:26.430
<v Speaker 3>exists in today's game than they're used to. So hey,

0:26:26.650 --> 0:26:30.260
<v Speaker 3>is it we're not getting the pre-snap motion going soon

0:26:30.300 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 3>enough and now all of a sudden the play clock's

0:26:31.980 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 3>hitting zero and the guy in motion isn't where he

0:26:34.540 --> 0:26:36.260
<v Speaker 3>is so we've got to be forced to call timeout?

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.300
<v Speaker 3>A little bit of that, but does that explain 23

0:26:40.300 --> 0:26:43.700
<v Speaker 3>more penalties than the second most in a single year

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.330
<v Speaker 3>through week six since 2000? I don't think it does.

0:26:47.570 --> 0:26:49.930
<v Speaker 3>I think it's more strategic than that. I think we've

0:26:49.970 --> 0:26:53.390
<v Speaker 3>got teams that are actually using this more so than

0:26:53.670 --> 0:26:58.169
<v Speaker 3>ever for a field position advantage. That's what I think

0:26:58.190 --> 0:26:58.310
<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're just looking at delay of game

0:27:02.270 --> 0:27:05.810
<v Speaker 1>penalties on fourth down, so out of those 98, 51

0:27:05.810 --> 0:27:08.250
<v Speaker 1>were on fourth down. You think if it was more

0:27:08.390 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>procedure based, it would be more on early downs, but

0:27:12.300 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fourth down. That's 17 more fourth down delay of

0:27:15.020 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>game penalties than any other season since 2000. I think

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.540
<v Speaker 1>this is a direct byproduct of the change in the

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.420
<v Speaker 1>kicking rules. Some of you out there might be like,

0:27:25.500 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>where the hell are you guys going with this? Just

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.010
<v Speaker 1>walk with me. I promise it makes sense. the average

0:27:30.070 --> 0:27:34.290
<v Speaker 1>starting field position on kickoffs has dramatically moved forward since

0:27:34.330 --> 0:27:37.050
<v Speaker 1>they instituted the new kickoff rules. So you got teams starting,

0:27:37.390 --> 0:27:38.850
<v Speaker 1>like some of them are starting on average at like

0:27:39.230 --> 0:27:41.910
<v Speaker 1>the 33 yard line on kickoffs, right? And the average

0:27:42.010 --> 0:27:47.150
<v Speaker 1>yards gained per drive across the NFL is typically around 30.

0:27:47.150 --> 0:27:49.730
<v Speaker 1>So if we're starting, you know, NFL average about the

0:27:49.730 --> 0:27:52.869
<v Speaker 1>30 yard line on kickoffs, and then you add 30

0:27:52.869 --> 0:27:57.260
<v Speaker 1>yards to that, that means teams are ending up oftentimes

0:27:57.460 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>in no man's land. where they have to make these

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.740
<v Speaker 1>kick versus punt versus go for it calls. And not

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.619
<v Speaker 1>everybody has Brandon Aubrey that can just make a 60

0:28:06.619 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>yarder or Cam Little or Kaimi Fairbairn that's like super

0:28:09.940 --> 0:28:13.260
<v Speaker 1>accurate from distance. Some teams, it is a decision where

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.070
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, it's probably better to punt here, but

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.590
<v Speaker 1>also we think we have a better shot of downing

0:28:18.650 --> 0:28:21.810
<v Speaker 1>it inside the 10 or the 15 or the 20

0:28:21.810 --> 0:28:24.230
<v Speaker 1>if we have a little bit more room to get

0:28:24.270 --> 0:28:26.790
<v Speaker 1>the bounce that we want and then down it there.

0:28:26.910 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>So teams are taking these delay of game penalties, we believe,

0:28:31.020 --> 0:28:34.899
<v Speaker 1>in order to intentionally put themselves back five yards so

0:28:34.940 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they can gain, you know, maybe 10 to 12 yards

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>of field position on their punt coverage unit, which does

0:28:41.740 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>add up over time, right? If we're punting, say, three

0:28:44.980 --> 0:28:48.770
<v Speaker 1>times in a game and we can gain that kind

0:28:48.810 --> 0:28:50.989
<v Speaker 1>of field position a couple of times, like, you know,

0:28:50.990 --> 0:28:54.310
<v Speaker 1>20 yards doesn't seem like much, but it absolutely is

0:28:54.410 --> 0:28:55.910
<v Speaker 1>over the course of the season if you're getting that

0:28:55.930 --> 0:28:57.050
<v Speaker 1>per game, right?

0:28:57.070 --> 0:28:57.190
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:28:58.140 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So why not take the penalty? You can try to

0:29:00.860 --> 0:29:03.140
<v Speaker 1>hard count your way into a first down, obviously, but

0:29:03.260 --> 0:29:05.540
<v Speaker 1>if not, take the penalty, give your punter room to

0:29:05.580 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>work with, and if we have a good punter, and

0:29:07.340 --> 0:29:09.830
<v Speaker 1>punters are better than ever these days, we can down

0:29:09.870 --> 0:29:12.630
<v Speaker 1>it super deep and then just kind of play that

0:29:12.670 --> 0:29:15.070
<v Speaker 1>field position battle until eventually we break through and score.

0:29:15.370 --> 0:29:18.330
<v Speaker 1>I think it's brilliant. The question I have, Trevor, are

0:29:18.390 --> 0:29:21.710
<v Speaker 1>we going to see an uptick in teams declining that

0:29:22.470 --> 0:29:24.070
<v Speaker 1>to deny them that advantage?

0:29:24.290 --> 0:29:24.630
<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

0:29:24.650 --> 0:29:24.750
<v Speaker 5>Maybe.

0:29:25.750 --> 0:29:28.260
<v Speaker 3>Is that one of those penalties that you can decline?

0:29:28.380 --> 0:29:31.020
<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like the process happens so quickly that

0:29:31.060 --> 0:29:32.540
<v Speaker 3>it's almost just like, ah, yeah.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I think so. We'll kick him back. We'll have to

0:29:35.270 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>double check on that. I might be just talking on

0:29:37.500 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>his turn here.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Because that's Galaxy Brain stuff. That's, uh... That's... I know the...

0:29:43.180 --> 0:29:46.010
<v Speaker 3>That's the Uno reverse card. That's the, ah, yeah, we'll

0:29:46.030 --> 0:29:47.850
<v Speaker 3>just take the delay game penalty. And then the Bruce

0:29:47.930 --> 0:29:50.330
<v Speaker 3>Arians gif where he's just like... What? And he like

0:29:50.370 --> 0:29:52.830
<v Speaker 3>turns and is like, they declined it? And it's like,

0:29:53.250 --> 0:29:54.969
<v Speaker 3>that's the manifestation.

0:29:55.310 --> 0:29:58.210
<v Speaker 1>Can you egg on a coach? Let's say it's fourth

0:29:58.260 --> 0:30:00.300
<v Speaker 1>and four. If you decline the penalty, can you then

0:30:00.420 --> 0:30:02.110
<v Speaker 1>egg on the coach? Like, go ahead, go for it.

0:30:02.900 --> 0:30:03.890
<v Speaker 1>I dare you, go for it.

0:30:04.220 --> 0:30:09.660
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, that's funny. Dude, what a chess match of decisions.

0:30:10.100 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 3>That is funny to think about. It's going to be

0:30:12.220 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 3>interesting to monitor because as everybody who's watched this show

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.940
<v Speaker 3>from the very beginning of the season knows, we have

0:30:18.020 --> 0:30:21.350
<v Speaker 3>proclaimed this year of the special teams. And this is

0:30:21.590 --> 0:30:24.660
<v Speaker 3>once again, another brick in the house that we are

0:30:24.740 --> 0:30:28.540
<v Speaker 3>building to live in very comfortably in the house of

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.500
<v Speaker 3>special teams here in 2026. And I think this is

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.580
<v Speaker 3>just a fascinating example. He says he'll get it there. Yeah,

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.790
<v Speaker 3>let's kick it, Shane. Let's kick it. Okay, now we

0:30:36.810 --> 0:30:38.690
<v Speaker 3>got to talk about some major news that we had

0:30:38.710 --> 0:30:40.990
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. Chris Ballard, longtime general manager for the

0:30:41.030 --> 0:30:43.870
<v Speaker 3>Indianapolis Colts. He is out after their loss to the

0:30:43.930 --> 0:30:46.060
<v Speaker 3>Tennessee Titans. And we've got more time another day. We

0:30:46.150 --> 0:30:49.990
<v Speaker 3>can kind of dig into what to philosophically failed during

0:30:50.030 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>his tenure when he was the general manager of the Colts.

0:30:51.910 --> 0:30:54.300
<v Speaker 3>But for right now, I think the questions that everybody

0:30:54.340 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 3>wants the answer to, Brad, is what's happening with this

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Colts roster? Are we in fire sale mode? Quentin Nelson,

0:31:01.220 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 3>DeForest Buckner, Jonathan Taylor. Are these guys on the move?

0:31:05.380 --> 0:31:07.260
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that these guys could be traded? And

0:31:07.300 --> 0:31:10.739
<v Speaker 3>if so, like any thoughts about value or where they

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 3>could go or things like that?

0:31:13.140 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>If I'm reading their contracts correctly, They get cap savings

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of $ 15. 8 million if they trade DeForest Buckner. They get

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.660
<v Speaker 1>cap savings of $ 18 million if they trade Quentin Nelson.

0:31:22.900 --> 0:31:26.990
<v Speaker 1>Tarverius is $ 6. 5 million in savings. Grover Stewart, a little

0:31:27.030 --> 0:31:31.810
<v Speaker 1>over $ 12 million in savings. They have guys that they

0:31:31.830 --> 0:31:35.890
<v Speaker 1>can trade, especially DeForest, because everybody who's trying to go

0:31:35.930 --> 0:31:38.790
<v Speaker 1>on a run here could use more interior pass rush.

0:31:38.810 --> 0:31:41.450
<v Speaker 1>That's not something that any team ever has enough of.

0:31:41.770 --> 0:31:45.410
<v Speaker 1>And I would say Quentin Nelson, considering how, let's call

0:31:45.430 --> 0:31:50.590
<v Speaker 1>it light, your guard market is every single year. Every year, man.

0:31:50.650 --> 0:31:50.970
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:31:51.210 --> 0:31:51.870
<v Speaker 3>Every year.

0:31:52.370 --> 0:31:55.790
<v Speaker 1>People would love to make a deal for him. Like

0:31:56.110 --> 0:31:58.310
<v Speaker 1>if I'm the Ravens, I might actually be kind of

0:31:58.330 --> 0:32:00.550
<v Speaker 1>kicking myself because I just gave up a second rounder

0:32:00.570 --> 0:32:02.650
<v Speaker 1>for Cam Juergens when if I waited a couple of weeks,

0:32:02.710 --> 0:32:04.650
<v Speaker 1>maybe I could have spent that on Quentin Nelson. If

0:32:04.690 --> 0:32:07.710
<v Speaker 1>the Colts would even entertain that offer. But like somebody's

0:32:07.750 --> 0:32:09.790
<v Speaker 1>going to at least pick up the phone. I think

0:32:09.810 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of teams are going to pick up the

0:32:10.890 --> 0:32:12.710
<v Speaker 1>phone about Jonathan Taylor as well.

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:13.470
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.460
<v Speaker 1>The Packers, I think, would be interested in that. The Bengals,

0:32:17.940 --> 0:32:19.460
<v Speaker 1>who we'll get to in just a second, speaking of

0:32:19.660 --> 0:32:22.540
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens, the Bengals who are playing the Ravens this

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>week would be very interested in Jonathan Taylor. I mean,

0:32:25.500 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>who who doesn't want a top six running back in

0:32:29.900 --> 0:32:31.940
<v Speaker 1>the league to go on a stretch run with? Like

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.020
<v Speaker 1>they've got guys that they're going to like Josh Downs,

0:32:34.060 --> 0:32:36.340
<v Speaker 1>I think, could be a 49er. within a couple weeks

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.900
<v Speaker 1>here because they're out of receivers. So I think Indy

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is probably open for business here, and if I'm any

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>other team that I think I have a shot, I'm

0:32:45.060 --> 0:32:47.180
<v Speaker 1>going to do what the Colts just did last year

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.340
<v Speaker 1>and call up a team that is on the downswing

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.940
<v Speaker 1>and see what I can get. I just won't do

0:32:52.980 --> 0:32:55.340
<v Speaker 1>the Ballard thing of giving up two first-rounders.

0:32:57.830 --> 0:33:00.250
<v Speaker 3>I wish, and I'm sure Chargers fans agree with me,

0:33:00.530 --> 0:33:04.810
<v Speaker 3>I wish the Chargers weren't this bad because... if they

0:33:04.850 --> 0:33:08.950
<v Speaker 3>were anywhere close to Byers to fix things at the deadline,

0:33:09.230 --> 0:33:12.710
<v Speaker 3>Quentin Nelson on this Chargers team, if you fast forward

0:33:12.750 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 3>a year and your starting offensive line is Rayshon Slater,

0:33:18.060 --> 0:33:22.700
<v Speaker 3>Quentin Nelson, Tyler Biotish, maybe Jake Slaughter at the other

0:33:22.740 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>guard spot, and then Joe Alt, that's a really good

0:33:28.030 --> 0:33:30.990
<v Speaker 3>starting five. So I thought about that there, but you're right.

0:33:31.090 --> 0:33:33.250
<v Speaker 3>Any team that is looking to make a run that

0:33:33.290 --> 0:33:34.570
<v Speaker 3>has any sort of guard need. I think it would

0:33:34.590 --> 0:33:38.770
<v Speaker 3>be interesting in Quentin Nelson, of course. DeForest Buckner, I

0:33:38.810 --> 0:33:43.740
<v Speaker 3>have a team that came to mind. The Las Vegas Raiders. Ooh.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:48.300
<v Speaker 3>I think he would be a really nice splash addition

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>for them. And clearly, his post-game press conference, when he

0:33:53.460 --> 0:33:55.710
<v Speaker 3>was at his locker room after the Titans, he's fed up.

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>He's pissed. He wants to be competing. And the Raiders

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.580
<v Speaker 3>are getting to the point where they're competing. So that's

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.420
<v Speaker 3>the spot that I thought of there. And then for

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Taylor, that takes us into our next game that

0:34:06.620 --> 0:34:10.220
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about here, the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.210
<v Speaker 3>And I think the Cincinnati Bengals could potentially look into

0:34:14.250 --> 0:34:17.069
<v Speaker 3>this depending on how this game goes. I think if

0:34:17.130 --> 0:34:20.129
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals win this game, there's a lot on the line, Brad,

0:34:20.190 --> 0:34:23.250
<v Speaker 3>because when you look at the swing that this game

0:34:23.310 --> 0:34:27.490
<v Speaker 3>could have in NGS playoff probability, if the Cincinnati Bengals

0:34:27.590 --> 0:34:31.779
<v Speaker 3>beat the Baltimore Ravens, They jump up to a 73%

0:34:31.780 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 3>chance to make the playoffs. They lose, it goes down

0:34:34.140 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 3>to 48%. So close to a coin flip, but 48%.

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 3>So that's a 25% swing there. That's the highest in

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.620
<v Speaker 3>the AFC. If Baltimore wins this game, they go to

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.259
<v Speaker 3>a 69% chance to make the playoffs. And in a loss,

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.549
<v Speaker 3>they go down to 45%. So again, a 24% swing.

0:34:47.570 --> 0:34:50.469
<v Speaker 3>That's the second highest in the AFC for games. And

0:34:50.510 --> 0:34:52.710
<v Speaker 3>so when you look at the Bengals, and the reason

0:34:52.750 --> 0:34:55.310
<v Speaker 3>why I talk about them as a potential trade spot

0:34:55.330 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 3>for Jonathan Taylor is My big question mark that I

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.980
<v Speaker 3>have for the Bengals is their lack of explosiveness on

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.100
<v Speaker 3>the ground. For the longest time, we talked about, oh, yeah,

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 3>it's Bengals' offensive line, Bengals' offensive line, it's terrible, it'll

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.180
<v Speaker 3>always let them down. Now I think the offensive line

0:35:08.300 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 3>is pretty dang good, but they still aren't getting those

0:35:11.180 --> 0:35:15.779
<v Speaker 3>explosive plays. When you look at Chase Brown and his, well,

0:35:15.820 --> 0:35:19.780
<v Speaker 3>just overall Cincinnati rush success, last year was 42.8%, 10th

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL. This year, rush success is 39.5%, so

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:26.739
<v Speaker 3>a couple percentage points down, but that's all the way

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 3>down to 17th in the NFL. And then overall, if

0:35:29.420 --> 0:35:32.100
<v Speaker 3>you go to the explosiveness in the run game, Chase

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:37.129
<v Speaker 3>Brown's explosive run rate's 8.5 this year. The NFL average

0:35:37.310 --> 0:35:39.330
<v Speaker 3>is 10.3. So yeah, we could sit here and we

0:35:39.350 --> 0:35:42.009
<v Speaker 3>could talk about, you know, Joe Burrow, the offensive line,

0:35:42.030 --> 0:35:43.630
<v Speaker 3>the wide receivers, all that kind of stuff. To me,

0:35:43.730 --> 0:35:48.110
<v Speaker 3>the Cincinnati Bengals season goes as their run game goes

0:35:48.150 --> 0:35:50.950
<v Speaker 3>because that'll unlock how potent this offense can really be,

0:35:50.989 --> 0:35:53.370
<v Speaker 3>especially when we get into the playoffs. And I'm just

0:35:53.450 --> 0:35:56.300
<v Speaker 3>losing faith that it can be everything they need it

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to be with the current guys that they have. So

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.620
<v Speaker 3>do they go after a player like Jonathan Taylor? And

0:36:01.660 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>if they win against the Ravens, outside of them winning

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 3>and Chase Brown's rushing for like 120 yards, obviously then

0:36:07.940 --> 0:36:09.500
<v Speaker 3>they're not going to think about it. But if they

0:36:09.540 --> 0:36:11.700
<v Speaker 3>struggle on the ground, yet they still beat the Ravens,

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:13.589
<v Speaker 3>I think this team could be all in. I think

0:36:13.610 --> 0:36:14.930
<v Speaker 3>they could absolutely call up the Colts.

0:36:15.370 --> 0:36:20.069
<v Speaker 1>NGS has their yards before contact per attempt at 7th

0:36:20.150 --> 0:36:22.690
<v Speaker 1>best in the NFL at 1.6. It's not the offensive

0:36:22.710 --> 0:36:25.810
<v Speaker 1>line's problem. There you go. They're giving you a yard

0:36:25.850 --> 0:36:28.469
<v Speaker 1>and a half to work with every single carry. Even

0:36:28.530 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're just average after the contact, you should be

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a very solid run game. They're just not. If they

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:39.410
<v Speaker 1>win this game, and their playoff probability is north of 70%, yeah,

0:36:39.969 --> 0:36:41.350
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting my foot on the gas. I'm not going

0:36:41.370 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to give up a huge pick for Jonathan Taylor. I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>would start with offering a three, and if they talk

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>me up to a two, I would maybe want something

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.060
<v Speaker 1>back on day three to even it out a little bit.

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:52.980
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready to give up a one for him.

0:36:53.060 --> 0:36:54.779
<v Speaker 1>I'm certainly not going to give up a high two

0:36:54.820 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>for him without getting something back, potential high two, that is.

0:36:57.860 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to overextend myself, but if I think

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.420
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be the difference between a Super

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.250
<v Speaker 1>Bowl run or losing the division round, a second rounder

0:37:06.290 --> 0:37:08.089
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a small price to pay for that.

0:37:08.910 --> 0:37:11.330
<v Speaker 3>On the Ravens side of things, this game goes as

0:37:11.370 --> 0:37:13.870
<v Speaker 3>Lamar goes, right? I mean, the fact of the matter is,

0:37:13.969 --> 0:37:16.029
<v Speaker 3>is it can kind of just be boiled down to that.

0:37:16.130 --> 0:37:19.390
<v Speaker 3>They're just not explosive enough of an offense without Lamar

0:37:19.410 --> 0:37:22.150
<v Speaker 3>Jackson out there. And when he's, obviously it's an ankle injury.

0:37:22.170 --> 0:37:24.259
<v Speaker 3>So even if he's playing, you know, what percent of

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>health is he playing at? But it seems hard to

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.500
<v Speaker 3>envision a script where they're able to keep up with

0:37:28.540 --> 0:37:30.860
<v Speaker 3>the Cincinnati Bengals without Lamar Jackson. But if Lamar is

0:37:30.900 --> 0:37:32.219
<v Speaker 3>in there, of course, I think this is going to

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.859
<v Speaker 3>be an excellent game as all Ravens and Bengals games seem.

0:37:35.530 --> 0:37:36.509
<v Speaker 4>Jackson looking left.

0:37:36.590 --> 0:37:41.149
<v Speaker 1>Nobody home, but he's got another receiver inside.

0:37:41.130 --> 0:37:44.469
<v Speaker 3>For the Ravens. Touchdown!

0:37:44.510 --> 0:37:45.950
<v Speaker 1>49ers-Falcons.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 3>A game that, maybe on paper, when you look at

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.100
<v Speaker 3>some of these, how these teams have played through the

0:37:52.140 --> 0:37:53.980
<v Speaker 3>first six weeks of the season, people go, okay, you know,

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.739
<v Speaker 3>who cares? But the Falcons looked like gangbusters for two

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>weeks in the middle of the season when Michael Penix

0:37:59.980 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>got out there. I know it's been a little up

0:38:01.540 --> 0:38:04.790
<v Speaker 3>and down since, and the 49ers have I feel like, okay, yes,

0:38:04.810 --> 0:38:06.509
<v Speaker 3>they are undefeated. Don't want to take anything away from

0:38:06.530 --> 0:38:08.969
<v Speaker 3>them there because that is difficult to do. But was

0:38:09.030 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans going out against the Commanders, the straw that

0:38:11.739 --> 0:38:14.540
<v Speaker 3>broke the camel's back? Because, boy, it was tough sledding

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>after Mike Evans went out. Was that like, okay, now

0:38:16.780 --> 0:38:19.020
<v Speaker 3>this is too much for the 49ers to wear? All

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, we're talking about this game being an

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.310
<v Speaker 3>interesting game. Brett, where do you want to start with

0:38:23.330 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 3>this one, Falcons or 49ers?

0:38:25.450 --> 0:38:27.650
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to start with the 49ers defense

0:38:27.730 --> 0:38:30.969
<v Speaker 1>against Michael Penix. I still can't figure out what he

0:38:31.130 --> 0:38:34.570
<v Speaker 1>is because it feels like we get these wild swings

0:38:35.250 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>from week to week. And, you know, he's certainly not

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.140
<v Speaker 1>as mobile as he used to be three knee injuries in.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:45.140
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's maybe affected things somewhat as well.

0:38:45.540 --> 0:38:48.820
<v Speaker 1>But even just from an accuracy standpoint, a ball placement standpoint,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.970
<v Speaker 1>a decision making standpoint, he'll He'll pitch a perfect game

0:38:52.170 --> 0:38:53.910
<v Speaker 1>and then he will just get lit up and get

0:38:53.950 --> 0:38:56.270
<v Speaker 1>pulled by the third inning. And I never know what

0:38:56.370 --> 0:38:58.310
<v Speaker 1>version of Michael Penix I'm going to get, even from

0:38:58.330 --> 0:39:01.770
<v Speaker 1>like half to half. I'm wishing him the best. I

0:39:01.830 --> 0:39:04.390
<v Speaker 1>want him to succeed. He's still in the part of

0:39:04.430 --> 0:39:06.950
<v Speaker 1>his career where he's just kind of figuring it out.

0:39:07.770 --> 0:39:13.330
<v Speaker 1>And specifically against defenses that pressure quarterbacks that are still

0:39:13.370 --> 0:39:16.410
<v Speaker 1>figuring it out by bringing blitzes and speeding up their

0:39:16.450 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>clock when they're not used to having their clock sped

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.020
<v Speaker 1>up that much. Like we saw what happened against Chicago

0:39:21.510 --> 0:39:24.009
<v Speaker 1>where you're bringing Kyler Gordon off the edge over and

0:39:24.070 --> 0:39:26.550
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. And by the way, Kyler Gordon's

0:39:26.690 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>average getoff in that game was 0.74 seconds. There's no

0:39:31.100 --> 0:39:33.140
<v Speaker 1>tackle on planet Earth that can keep up with that.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.420
<v Speaker 1>And so you're basically trusting Penix to beat the rush

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.969
<v Speaker 1>with a throw, knowing he's going to have pressure coming

0:39:39.010 --> 0:39:40.230
<v Speaker 1>off the edge. And he couldn't do it. He got

0:39:40.270 --> 0:39:42.910
<v Speaker 1>sacked three times, gave up two forced fumbles to Kyler Gordon.

0:39:43.969 --> 0:39:46.330
<v Speaker 1>If the 49ers saw that tape and was like, OK,

0:39:46.370 --> 0:39:49.110
<v Speaker 1>the key is quick pressure, We can bring a DB

0:39:49.130 --> 0:39:51.370
<v Speaker 1>to get quick pressure and make him beat it. Is

0:39:51.410 --> 0:39:53.089
<v Speaker 1>he going to be able to do that? I truly

0:39:53.130 --> 0:39:55.450
<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer. If you're looking at how often

0:39:55.469 --> 0:39:58.730
<v Speaker 1>the 49ers bring DBs, they only do it 8.6% of

0:39:58.950 --> 0:40:01.180
<v Speaker 1>the time. That's six lowest in the NFL. But does

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:05.140
<v Speaker 1>that change because of the quarterback they're facing? Because Penix,

0:40:05.180 --> 0:40:08.779
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at him facing these DB blitzes, he's

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>faced it at the highest rate in the NFL. So

0:40:10.820 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>clearly other teams are realizing that it's an issue for

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>him speeding up his clock with these fast rushers off

0:40:17.219 --> 0:40:21.380
<v Speaker 1>the edge. He has a 53.1% completion percentage against a

0:40:21.420 --> 0:40:25.580
<v Speaker 1>DB Blitz that's 24th in the NFL, 5.9 yards per attempt,

0:40:25.860 --> 0:40:29.950
<v Speaker 1>18th in the NFL, negative. 52 EPA per play. That

0:40:30.010 --> 0:40:33.430
<v Speaker 1>is 31st in the NFL out of 33 qualifying quarterbacks.

0:40:34.250 --> 0:40:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He's not good against that. The 49ers don't do it,

0:40:37.330 --> 0:40:39.950
<v Speaker 1>but if I'm Raheem, I'm looking at that tape and

0:40:39.969 --> 0:40:42.660
<v Speaker 1>just being like, there's my answer. I am bringing Malik

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.860
<v Speaker 1>Mustafa off the edge as much as humanly possible and

0:40:46.140 --> 0:40:48.770
<v Speaker 1>dare him to beat it. And if Malik makes contact,

0:40:48.810 --> 0:40:51.690
<v Speaker 1>by the way, he's going to force another fumble because

0:40:51.730 --> 0:40:54.630
<v Speaker 1>he hits like a freaking freight train. So that's something

0:40:54.670 --> 0:40:55.549
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking out for here.

0:40:55.969 --> 0:40:57.910
<v Speaker 3>If you go over to the 49ers offensive side of things,

0:40:58.130 --> 0:41:00.850
<v Speaker 3>Mike Evans' presence on this team, I mean, it cannot

0:41:00.890 --> 0:41:04.450
<v Speaker 3>be overstated how important it is. With NGS, we've got

0:41:04.469 --> 0:41:06.380
<v Speaker 3>the ability to look at how the offense is when

0:41:06.390 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>a certain player is on the field versus when they're

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.020
<v Speaker 3>off the field. Mike Evans, when he is on the field,

0:41:10.020 --> 0:41:16.850
<v Speaker 3>7.2 yards per play, 19.3% explosive play percentage. 55.7% success

0:41:16.890 --> 0:41:20.629
<v Speaker 3>rate and a positive 0.31 EPA per play.

0:41:20.830 --> 0:41:21.290
<v Speaker 1>Really good.

0:41:21.590 --> 0:41:24.750
<v Speaker 3>When Mike Evans is off the field, 5.3 yards per play.

0:41:24.810 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 3>So almost two whole yards less per play. 10.5% explosive play.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.900
<v Speaker 3>So almost nine percentage in the wrong direction when it

0:41:32.940 --> 0:41:36.620
<v Speaker 3>comes to explosive plays. 45.4% success rate. So again, down

0:41:36.660 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>about 10% overall in success rate and a negative EPA

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.299
<v Speaker 3>per play when Mike Evans is not out there. So again,

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.100
<v Speaker 3>I kind of felt like the way that they were

0:41:46.140 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about Mike Evans, like, oh, he's going to be

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 3>out for a couple of weeks. Now, I know Kyle

0:41:50.620 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Shanahan said it wasn't going to be long-term, but it

0:41:52.340 --> 0:41:53.300
<v Speaker 3>felt like he was going to be out for a

0:41:53.340 --> 0:41:57.060
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks. Maybe not, because they didn't activate Christian Kirk,

0:41:57.780 --> 0:42:01.379
<v Speaker 3>I believe, on Monday, which is a good sign for

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.190
<v Speaker 3>Evans potentially playing this week. So, obviously, we talked about

0:42:05.230 --> 0:42:06.270
<v Speaker 3>how big of a deal it is if he is

0:42:06.350 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 3>out there. But specifically, I wonder if they... Just lean

0:42:10.860 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 3>more into 21 personnel. When I say lean more, I'm

0:42:13.380 --> 0:42:16.700
<v Speaker 3>laughing when I say that because their 34.6% is the

0:42:16.820 --> 0:42:20.969
<v Speaker 3>highest 21 personnel rate in the NFL and their success

0:42:21.030 --> 0:42:26.070
<v Speaker 3>rate in 21 personnel is 56.3% also the highest in

0:42:26.090 --> 0:42:28.009
<v Speaker 3>the NFL. So they run it a lot and they

0:42:28.050 --> 0:42:30.610
<v Speaker 3>run it a lot for a big reason because they're

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 3>really good at it.

0:42:31.820 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 4>So the question becomes, if Mike Evans doesn't play in

0:42:35.460 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 4>this game, do they just go old school? Do they

0:42:39.180 --> 0:42:41.570
<v Speaker 4>just go, I mean, do they just get that George

0:42:41.650 --> 0:42:44.969
<v Speaker 4>Kittles on the line of scrimmage, Kyle Juszczyk's in the backfield,

0:42:45.210 --> 0:42:48.830
<v Speaker 4>and they just go, we're going straight north to south, baby.

0:42:49.150 --> 0:42:52.090
<v Speaker 3>We're getting downhill. Now, obviously, Kyle's going to be creative

0:42:52.110 --> 0:42:53.990
<v Speaker 3>in kind of how he does it there, which Christian

0:42:54.010 --> 0:42:56.870
<v Speaker 3>McCaffrey versus the Falcons linebackers in coverage I think is

0:42:56.910 --> 0:43:00.370
<v Speaker 3>a major area where they can exploit. But I just,

0:43:00.610 --> 0:43:03.569
<v Speaker 3>I'm fascinated to see how much they go to that

0:43:03.570 --> 0:43:07.500
<v Speaker 3>21 personnel against the Falcons, especially if Mike Evans is

0:43:07.540 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 3>not out there this week.

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Brock Birdie's building his MVP case for the

0:43:13.180 --> 0:43:17.290
<v Speaker 1>following reason. 49ers wide receivers going into the year. Wide

0:43:17.310 --> 0:43:22.430
<v Speaker 1>receiver one, Mike Evans, Achilles. Wide receiver two, Debo Samuel, Hamstring.

0:43:22.750 --> 0:43:27.890
<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver three, Dejon Stripling, Ankle. Wide receiver four, Ricky Pearsall, PCL.

0:43:28.110 --> 0:43:32.540
<v Speaker 1>Wide receiver five, Christian Kirk, Calf. Wide receiver six, Demarcus Robinson, Ankle.

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:38.420
<v Speaker 1>And yet, this is still... arguably been the most potent

0:43:38.580 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>offense in the NFL. That is Brock Purdy in a nutshell.

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.890
<v Speaker 1>He is making it work. He's making incredible throws. Obviously

0:43:45.910 --> 0:43:48.870
<v Speaker 1>been a great decision maker. His mobility was clutch in

0:43:48.890 --> 0:43:51.670
<v Speaker 1>the second half, you know, post Mike Evans injury, like

0:43:51.710 --> 0:43:53.310
<v Speaker 1>he was able to get them out of trouble with

0:43:53.370 --> 0:43:57.109
<v Speaker 1>his legs. His arm strength has just gotten so much

0:43:57.230 --> 0:44:00.989
<v Speaker 1>better every single year. And that was always something people

0:44:01.030 --> 0:44:03.529
<v Speaker 1>kind of dogged on him coming out of college, coming

0:44:03.570 --> 0:44:04.610
<v Speaker 1>out of Iowa state was, Oh, he doesn't have a

0:44:04.610 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>great arm. Well, the thing that people don't realize is

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.219
<v Speaker 1>that his quarterback coach that he worked with down in

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.299
<v Speaker 1>Florida in the offseason, Will Hewlett, they got an extra

0:44:13.300 --> 0:44:15.590
<v Speaker 1>10 miles per hour out of him in a single

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:19.410
<v Speaker 1>offseason between Iowa State and the Niners. So as a rookie,

0:44:19.750 --> 0:44:22.650
<v Speaker 1>his arm was okay. And they've just built on that

0:44:22.730 --> 0:44:24.890
<v Speaker 1>every single year, where now it's like Purdy can make

0:44:25.130 --> 0:44:29.070
<v Speaker 1>any throw, plus being mobile, plus having great spatial awareness,

0:44:29.110 --> 0:44:32.530
<v Speaker 1>being a great decision maker, accuracy. And when a quarterback

0:44:32.590 --> 0:44:34.170
<v Speaker 1>is playing like that, I don't want to say it

0:44:34.190 --> 0:44:36.590
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter who your receivers are because clearly there's a

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:38.379
<v Speaker 1>big difference when you have Mike and when you don't,

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:43.479
<v Speaker 1>but he can still make it work. Touchdown, 49ers! That,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.540
<v Speaker 1>to me, is what an MVP is. Even when you're

0:44:45.580 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>down six receivers in a month and a half, you

0:44:49.940 --> 0:44:51.980
<v Speaker 1>can still make it work, and he's doing that.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.930
<v Speaker 3>I want to wrap things up by getting into some

0:44:54.989 --> 0:44:58.969
<v Speaker 3>coaches who are absolutely in their bag. We're six weeks

0:44:59.050 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 3>into the NFL season, and we have already seen some

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 3>incredible creativity with star players and also just rotational players.

0:45:06.100 --> 0:45:07.970
<v Speaker 3>Guys that you would think you would get creative with

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.410
<v Speaker 3>and guys that the other team is like, whoa, wait

0:45:10.450 --> 0:45:11.790
<v Speaker 3>a second, I didn't even know that guy was going

0:45:11.810 --> 0:45:13.310
<v Speaker 3>to be on the field and he's doing what? I

0:45:13.670 --> 0:45:15.770
<v Speaker 3>think there's a couple plays on offense and a couple

0:45:15.810 --> 0:45:17.670
<v Speaker 3>plays on defense that we want to get to from

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<v Speaker 3>throughout the league. Brett, I'll let you kick it off here.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jesse Minner was an assistant with the Ravens in

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<v Speaker 1>2018 where they did this the first time. And they

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<v Speaker 1>went deep into Ravens lore history deep into their bag

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<v Speaker 1>as a franchise to pull this one out. They put

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Cuevas, a tight end, lined him up as an

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<v Speaker 1>off-ball guard is the best way I could describe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Very common. You know, I'm going to add that to

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<v Speaker 3>the scouting book, actually, when guys are an off-ball guard.

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<v Speaker 3>He is my off-ball guard one here in this year's draft.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, what a creative way to run a crossing route.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Browns defense was like, can you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that leak, like they just let him go. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was such an easy explosive that you could generate

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<v Speaker 1>with Tyler Huntley. It was one of his two biggest

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<v Speaker 1>explosives of the day. And it wasn't necessarily a difficult throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this was just pure scheme and trickery and deception.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love seeing Declan Doyle kind of pull this

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<v Speaker 1>out from Raven's history from God almost a decade ago

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<v Speaker 1>to give them a big play in a big spot

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<v Speaker 1>when they needed it. And then the second one that

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<v Speaker 1>I have for you this week, speaking of reaching deep

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<v Speaker 1>into their history. So Nick Haley spent time under Sean

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<v Speaker 1>McVay with the Rams. And something that the Rams really

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<v Speaker 1>like to do is called mesh traffic, where it's a

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<v Speaker 1>mesh concept, but you're sneaking the running back out through

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Matt LaFleur up in Green Bay, he

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<v Speaker 1>calls this a slither route, where you find your best

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<v Speaker 1>release through the offensive line because you can't predict which

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<v Speaker 1>gaps the defensive line is going to go into. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of reading on the fly and you

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<v Speaker 1>find space and you attack through it. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have a mesh concept that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>taking the eyes of the underneath defenders. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>here is you can do exactly what the Texans did here,

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<v Speaker 1>where you get three Jaguars essentially diving on Jalen Knoll,

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<v Speaker 1>while Woody Marks sneaks out through an A-gap wide open

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<v Speaker 1>to the flat, to get 19 yards on third and

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<v Speaker 1>two when they desperately needed it to set up a

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<v Speaker 1>game-winning field goal. And, you know, Cayley breaking this out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when he needed to, going deep into his Rams

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<v Speaker 1>history of like, okay, it's third and short. We know

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get man. How do we beat man reliably?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's call mesh traffic to our best receiving back. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>love this call. Nick Cayley's been on a heater the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple weeks. CJ Stroud also been on a heater.

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<v Speaker 1>For all the noise there was in Houston about Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Cayley as an OC, I think he's really stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>recently and calls like this are a big reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert just had nowhere to go with that ball, wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>it up, loses on the play.

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<v Speaker 3>So many incredible storylines and trends and things to follow

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of the first six weeks of the season

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<v Speaker 3>going into week seven. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure you don't miss the episode that we have

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday where we basically instantly react to everything that

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to see in the Sunday slate in week seven.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you guys then. Thanks for listening to our

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