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Speaker 1: Welcome to this League uncut in the rule of twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour NBA News. This is you, Chris Haynes. It's

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Speaker 1: so time, Mark Stein, It's so time. This League uncut

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Speaker 1: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one.

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Speaker 2: Talk about a good one man, this NBA Sunday, damn good.

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Speaker 2: Good isn't sufficient. Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes for

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Speaker 2: another edition of this League Uncut. Two crazy games on

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Speaker 2: this Sunday, Sixers trying to save their season, force overtime,

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Speaker 2: find a way to beat the Boston Celtics, even that

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference semifinal at two to two, when it looked

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Speaker 2: like Boston had come all the way back from a

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Speaker 2: double digit deficit, looked like the South. So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: steal that game for two to two now for the Sixers.

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Speaker 2: And then at night similar circumstances, Nikola Jokic fifty three

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Speaker 2: points not enough to turn back the Phoenix Suns, with

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Speaker 2: Devin Booker and Kevin Durant scoring a combined seventy two

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Speaker 2: and missing only twelve shots. Both of these matchups are

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Speaker 2: now two to two crazy because really, the way things

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Speaker 2: were going today they easily could have won or both

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Speaker 2: could have ended up with a three to one lead.

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Speaker 2: So mister Haynes, I know you got your hands full

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Speaker 2: covering Warriors Lakers. You livened up my Sunday morning with

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Speaker 2: your interview with Anthony Davis. We will get to that.

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Speaker 2: But sixers Celtics watching that thing, I was imagining that

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Speaker 2: we would be dice afecting a three to one deficit

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Speaker 2: and a lot of uncomfortable talk about the futures of

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Speaker 2: James Harden and Doc Rivers Toda tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Celtics definitely had their chance the multitude of ways.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what sticks out to me is that last play,

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Speaker 3: of course by the Boston Celtics, choosing not to call

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Speaker 3: it too late. Marcus Smart's three did not count, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it's just reminiscent of last year finals. To me,

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Speaker 3: this team has gotten better. I think they're a better

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Speaker 3: at a bench with Ad Brogden. But occasionally they still

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Speaker 3: revert back to the Celtics that just are just turnover

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Speaker 3: wrong time. That's what it reminded me of. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying there all the way back to what they

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Speaker 3: were last year, but that was that was concerning. That

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Speaker 3: was concerning. I think you're giving this team some life.

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Speaker 3: Joel and b James Harden. They were awesome tonight fighting,

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Speaker 3: you know, getting their own shots and getting other guys open.

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Speaker 3: But I think what needs to be what needs to

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Speaker 3: And uh, they you know, they fought to get themselves

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Speaker 3: that's one thing when you when you talk to players

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Speaker 3: a lot of them still feel like they're gonna they're

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Speaker 3: gonna make a lot of plays to stay in the game,

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Speaker 3: but they're also going to make a lot of plays

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been doing it all season long.

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously Joe missoula rookie head coach under

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Speaker 2: the microscope. And I saw some interesting comments from Doc

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Speaker 2: How you know Joe is under far more pressure as

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Speaker 2: Doc started off with a young Orlando team. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Joe Mizzula steps in where they're expected to win the championship.

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Speaker 2: And when things go haywire and timeouts are not called

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Speaker 2: But look, the Celtics have reswiped home court advantage. Philly

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Speaker 2: goes in there, wins Game one with no mb the

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Speaker 2: But man, the Sixers have to feed amazing. They had

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Speaker 2: Sean Grandy, the excellent radio play by play man for

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Speaker 2: he threw out some gold tonight. The Celtics are a

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Speaker 2: having two of the best playoff games of his life.

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Speaker 2: And this is a guy who's constantly maligned for his

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Speaker 2: postseason play. So fascinating series from here. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know it's going to be forgotten. But the Horford defense

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Speaker 2: impossible to believe that this thing is too two. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: So Philly has to feel great and Beide is still

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Speaker 2: I really thought we were getting together. I knew we

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Speaker 2: to be you know, putting, putting everybody in Philly not

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Speaker 4: That's you're gonna have to wait on that. I know

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Speaker 4: you were salivating.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what, I'm not salivating. No, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I really wasn't salivating because I actually about a month ago,

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Speaker 2: it's it's been such a repeated thing throughout the regular

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Speaker 2: I said it. But at some point late in the

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Speaker 2: regular season, I said, I officially believe in this Philly

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Speaker 2: team more than I believe in this Boston team. So

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Speaker 2: if you look again at the numbers that mister Grandy

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Speaker 2: But it's only two two and Game five, the Game

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Speaker 3: That's why we played the game. That's why I played

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Speaker 3: the game. But no, Philly definitely has life. Ol Embiid

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Speaker 2: And I mean, as you know, I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 2: taking it all in and living through you, you on the road,

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Speaker 2: whatever stories you have for me. But man, I would

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Speaker 2: have loved after I would love you know. PJ. Tucker

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Speaker 5: What do you think he told him?

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Speaker 2: Icy hot man up? Because I mean he was I

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Speaker 2: mean Horford just turned him away three straight times. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I think the MVP is getting the benefit

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Speaker 2: of doubt with me. He's he's not right, He's not

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Speaker 2: He's not in a He's not anywhere near one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: There's no way he had there's not much trouble finding

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Speaker 2: Man the Revenge of Harden. Who did you pick going

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Speaker 2: into this series? I mean, you don't really do picks

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Speaker 2: late in the regular season. But look this much, I

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Speaker 2: coming out as the favorite to win it all and

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Speaker 2: the Celtics. Vegas would already tell you that that the

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Speaker 2: Celtics are the favorite to win it all. I think

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Speaker 2: whoever wins this series with Milwaukee out now is going

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Speaker 5: You're I believe, yes, your husband's accurate in that.

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Speaker 3: If I had to go off the top of my head,

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Speaker 3: I'm not just being a prisoner of the moment. I

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Speaker 3: think it looks like Philly has some momentum. Looks like

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Speaker 3: I was around Boston a lot last playoffs, and I

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Speaker 3: it's tough to pick them. If I have you forcing me,

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Speaker 3: I will say Philly right now.

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Speaker 2: Now. I'm not sure how much agreement we will find

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul has a chance to return. The Suns turned

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Speaker 2: on both sides. I mean, these these Jokic numbers are

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Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous. Jokic goes to Phoenix, rings up eighty three

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Speaker 2: now which sucks is I think all of the Monday

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Speaker 2: discourse is going to be is Yokic getting suspended. Instead

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Speaker 2: of focusing on What a crazy game and what a

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Speaker 2: crazy series it's been. There was the play late in

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Speaker 2: the first half the ball ended up in the hands

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Speaker 2: of New Sons owner Matt Ishbia. Jokic rested the ball

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Speaker 2: away from him, and there was some Jokic on Ishbia contact,

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Speaker 2: which Ishbia flopped amazingly. Clearly worked on that in his

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Speaker 2: Michigan State playing days. Naturally, if you are a Phoenix

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Speaker 2: rule book, which would say any contact between Jokic and

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Speaker 2: the other hand, we have Michael Malone, Denver's coach, naturally,

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Speaker 2: going to tell you why Joki should not be suspended.

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Speaker 2: Michael Malone after the game quote, I think it's crazy

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Speaker 2: that Nicola got a technical foul. He's going to get

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Speaker 2: A reporter brings up that the fan was the owner

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Speaker 2: of the Suns. Michael Malone's reply, I don't give a bleep, So.

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Speaker 3: What's the bleepst I guess we're we are allowed to

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Speaker 2: I don't give a ship. Michael Malone said, look how

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Speaker 5: Are, thank you. I did it, America. I did it.

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Speaker 2: Look we don't. As we're taping this on Sunday night,

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Speaker 2: it's not clear what's going to happen. The guestimate, the

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Speaker 5: You I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That's not a disrespect to Al meaning Al

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Speaker 3: They always say this, and I can understand it more

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Speaker 5: Period.

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Speaker 3: They don't care. When you're out there on the court,

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Speaker 3: His birthday was last Tuesday and I text him Happy birthday,

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Speaker 3: And wait till you see my tomorrow's fit, which excuse me, yeah,

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Speaker 3: at AD's locker as we were talking, as I was

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Speaker 3: doing an interview. So yeah, I got a D after

432
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 3: the game where he when he still had his feet

433
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: his bunions in ice water, had his knees wrapped up,

434
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 3: and he basically gave me some time on and the

435
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: subject matter. It was a It was a bunch of

436
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: different subjects. It was interesting how the conversation morphed into

437
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: a four person conversation that included me, A D, Lebron James,

438
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 3: and Tristan Thompson. But pertaining to my story with a D.

439
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: It was just about what the forty eight hours was

440
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: like for him. He faced a lot of scrutiny after

441
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: Game two had a subpar game and stein this series

442
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: right here is every other day, so which means there

443
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: are storylines and narratives that that take place after each

444
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 3: in every game, and it can be overwhelming depending on

445
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: the player, depending on how they handle that. And Ad

446
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: was he was catching them, he was catching them. And

447
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: so he told me, like he said, listen, I'm quoting him.

448
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Basically said, I don't give a shit about what everybody

449
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: else is saying. He said, I'm not on social media.

450
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: He said, people that continue to use his name.

451
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Do we believe him? He's not on social media.

452
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 5: He's not.

453
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 3: He his his his Instagram is deactivated. I've seen that.

454
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: You can't if you go on Instagram, you won't find

455
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: AD's Instagram handle. He's deactivated. It's not on his phone.

456
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: I looked on his phone. The app is not on

457
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: his phone.

458
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: And I don't Chris Haynes investigating player's phones for this leader.

459
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: I had to make sure. I had to make sure

460
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: it's accurate. If he's going to say that, I gotta

461
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: make sure I like it. That what I'm writing is facts.

462
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot of fake a lot of

463
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: fact news going on out there. Yeah, Stan, And so no,

464
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: he told me, he was like, look, he said, people

465
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: just use his name and criticize him for ratings, and

466
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: he called it clickbait. And he said, look, he has

467
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: a ritual, and the ritual before a game is that

468
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: he talks to himself and and he pumps himself up,

469
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: motivates himself. And he said he reminds himself of who

470
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: he is. But he also said he understands the criticism,

471
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: he said, because that means people respect you for what

472
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: they know that you can do out there on the court.

473
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: He said, So it's a it's a good and a

474
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: bad thing. But he made sure to he made sure

475
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: to send the message out there or that he's out

476
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: there to play basketball. He's paid to play basketball and

477
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: utter everybody else is not. So basically, stay in your lane,

478
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: because he's going to stay in his lane.

479
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: I am an ad fan. I've said that many times, and.

480
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: I hear a butt come in, I feel a butt

481
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: come along.

482
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: Does he get too much criticism? I think so. However,

483
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: same thing in these playoffs. You cannot deny that for

484
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: some bizarre reason, in odd number games, Anthony Davis is

485
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: averaging twenty seven point eight points, sixteen point eight rebounds,

486
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: shooting fifty seven percent from the field. In even numbered

487
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: games and My math ain't great, but I do know

488
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 2: Game four is even numbered. In even numbered games in

489
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: these playoffs, Anthony Davis offensively drops to thirteen points, ten

490
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: point three rebounds, and just forty zero point four percent shooting.

491
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: So like it or not, he's the difference. I mean,

492
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Lebron James, as crazy as it is to say this,

493
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: he's moving into that sidekick role. He needs Ad to

494
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: be the dominant force. And Lebron's doing it fantastically well,

495
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: and he's finding you know, he's not up huge offensive numbers,

496
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: but he contributes in all these all these other ways.

497
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: But if Lebron James wants to get past Stephen Curry

498
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: and the Golden State Warriors and get to the Western

499
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, he's going to need odd number game AD

500
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: thirteen and ten eight. It's I mean, he needs more.

501
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: When Ad is dominated allah game one, in Game three,

502
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: the Lakers have dominated. So yes, there is a connection there.

503
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 3: I do believe Ad knows it.

504
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: One thing he.

505
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: Did say also in the interview I had with him

506
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: is that he shot ten shots in game two and

507
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: he shot eleven shots in game three. Game two is

508
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: when he had eleven points game three. I believe he had.

509
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: I want to say it was twenty five. I believe

510
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: in Game three super producer Ryan, if you could fact

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00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: check me on that, I believe it's twenty five. I mean,

512
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: I wrote the damn story. I should know, but hey,

513
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: my mind is going a whole bunch of different places.

514
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: But you know, he made that, he tried to make

515
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: that connection, but that still doesn't He was aggressive getting

516
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: to the free throw line. You know, shot attempts don't

517
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: always tell the story. But Stein, I want to talk,

518
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: like we were having this conversation with me and a D.

519
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 3: Then Lebron gets out, comes out the shower and he

520
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: overhears us talking having a conversation, and he jumps in

521
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, man, there's too many people

522
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: out there who are unqualified to talk about this game,

523
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: who always want to have something to say. And he

524
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: mentioned AD's defensive rating and I forgot the number. God,

525
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: it was like a high defensive rating. And he mentioned

526
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: that a D had more blocks than and I got looked,

527
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: I should have looked this up.

528
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: A D.

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: He said, AD has more blocks than some of the

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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: team's total in the playoffs by himself, and he was like,

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00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: So he was like.

532
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: He's the best defensive player in the world, like.

533
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: He has yet to win a deepse I don't think

534
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: we talked about that.

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00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: He probably won't because he's never gonna play enough in

536
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: the regular season to win.

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00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, hold on, Stan, I hear you,

538
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: I hear you.

539
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: You're making some sense.

540
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: But they gave it to Jared Jackson Junior.

541
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: How many more games did he play than a D

542
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: this year?

543
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: Come on, Stan, I mean, I'm not I didn't. I

544
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: didn't vote for any of them because I'm not a voter,

545
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: but I you know I would not have this. I

546
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: gotta go back and look, I don't think I voted

547
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: in my fake ballot, Producer Ryan, Can you try to

548
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: find my fake ballot because I don't. I do not

549
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: think I voted for JJJ because of that reason, And

550
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: of course now I'm so.

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00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, producer Ryan. Twenty five points game three or

552
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: a D. I forget last game that was a game high.

553
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, we talked about that. We we all, and

554
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: then Tristan Thompson came over and we all started talking

555
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: about just how.

556
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: Do you think it pisses him off that he's never

557
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: been the.

558
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: Dp O Y, I'm gonna tell you because he is

559
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: he is.

560
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: The best defensive player when he not like he is.

561
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: Just that, not just that. I learned something else. Lebron

562
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: is pissed off that he only has four m vps.

563
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: That was something else we talked about in the conversation.

564
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: It was like, I've been the best player for how

565
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: long in this league and it got four m vps.

566
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, that's what that's the claim, you know,

567
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: that's what That's what happened to Michael Jordan And then

568
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: we start talking about again. We've had these conversations many

569
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: times about the criteria of what it takes, what voters

570
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: look at to decide MVP, and uh, definitely, it's definitely

571
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: things that we can do better as writers and how

572
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: we evaluate and the stats that look But it's it's

573
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: never it's never an exact science.

574
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 5: It's always going to be hard.

575
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: I probably should be careful what I wish for, because man,

576
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: I am still you love you want stories. I mean

577
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: I remember part of me wishes what what you want

578
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: me to hold on?

579
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: No?

580
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: Is this going to is this a segue of uh,

581
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: this league cutting?

582
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: No?

583
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: Can we run this far?

584
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: I think we can. I think we can run I

585
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: think we can run on. So when Shaq was on

586
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: the Celtics, there was a pregame convo Shack, KG and

587
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, and you know they started getting into m

588
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: v P and Shack. You know, Shaq still you know,

589
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Shack's never happy with his numbers of Shack. The Shack

590
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: only has one m v P right, And so you know,

591
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: Nash won the two in a row, and you know

592
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: Shaq was not happy about either. And so KG, Pierce

593
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: and Garnet they're like, this is the the locker room's open.

594
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: So Gary Washburn and I are in there, but the

595
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: three of them are having this convo. But they were

596
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: fine having it in front of us. And I just

597
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: wanted to chime in and say, hey, you know, guys,

598
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm a voter, and I just think one perspective you're

599
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: missing missing And I tried to give the mark Stein

600
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: voter perspective of how this is about best season, This

601
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: is not about best player. If we could you know,

602
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: and I've always said this in all the years I voted,

603
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: if we're gonna make this best player, just give it

604
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan on Halloween and let's not even worry

605
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: about it. Like you got to judge each individual season

606
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: as a story unto itself. That is the way that

607
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: I have always approached it.

608
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 5: Well.

609
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: I made made the bold decision to share in my

610
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: voting philosophy, and Pierce and Cage just all over me

611
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: because I'm in their domain trying to tell them, and

612
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, I'm not saying you're the way you're

613
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: doing it drunk. I'm just telling you, as a voter,

614
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: this is how, this is how a lot of us vote.

615
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: They wanted, they did to want to hear one second

616
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: of it. But the reason I was bringing that up

617
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: is that's what I would tell Lebron too. Lebron has

618
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: been the best player in the league for at least

619
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: half of his twenty seasons and probably more if we're

620
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: going to go through him and count. But has he

621
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: had the best season all those times? When There's been

622
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: a lot of times in his career that he's kind

623
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: of load managed in the regular season and you know,

624
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: full intensity for some portions and less than full intensity

625
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: for other portions. So I mean, he's always tried to

626
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: peak in the playoffs. So I think that's the reason

627
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: why he has the four he has. But I'm sure

628
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: if I tried to hit Lebron with that rationale, he

629
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: really probably wouldn't want to hear it from me either.

630
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: Bron on this pod, even if it was for ten

631
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: or fifteen minutes, because I want him to expend, like

632
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 3: there was more in our conversation that we had again

633
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 3: it was me Ad, Tristan Thompson and Bron. I don't

634
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: want to, you know, because that was our conversation. So

635
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to reveal too much or share too much.

636
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: I want him to do it, you.

637
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 5: Know, on his own.

638
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: And uh, but he has some interesting concepts that I

639
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: didn't think about before, and I would love for him

640
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: to share that.

641
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: I would, I would say too. So maybe someday, if

642
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: it's not even with us, maybe he says it somewhere.

643
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: Because although you know, the journalism nerded me, you know

644
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: what I want to ask you, don't you no? So

645
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: where was everybody else in the press pack when you

646
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: and A D started having this conversation.

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00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: They were right there, everybody. They were right there in

648
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: the locker room. You know how it is.

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Speaker 2: And and so I you know, you know, I barely

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Speaker 2: can log onto Instagram, so I didn't look, did you

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Speaker 2: post the picture Jim Mice gave you or is that

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Speaker 2: just for the price I post?

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Speaker 5: No, I posted the picture. My son is let me my.

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Speaker 2: Son is supposed to tell me what happens. Then I

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Speaker 2: would have been more prepared for this interview.

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Speaker 5: Let me see here it is. I just texted to

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Speaker 5: you and Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So Tristan Thompson, he must be the happy dude in

659
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Speaker 2: the NBA. He's he's man.

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Speaker 5: He signed.

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Speaker 3: He signed believe the last week of the regular season,

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Speaker 3: and his first action came into playoffs. He didn't get

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Speaker 3: one second of time through the latter part of the

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Speaker 3: regular season.

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Speaker 5: And now now he's and he's actually stigning.

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Speaker 3: He's actually a vital member of that team in that

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Speaker 3: locker room, just being a vet guy who won, you know,

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Speaker 3: won a championship in Cleveland, and a guy that Lebron

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Speaker 3: they know Lebron respects, and you know, it's hard to

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00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, I'm pretty sure Lebron gave him the you know,

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Speaker 3: gave front office the thumbs up to, you know, to

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Speaker 3: to bring Tristan Thompson on.

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Speaker 5: He's really he's really respected.

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Speaker 3: Like he's in that huddle, he's talking to his teammates,

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Speaker 3: pumping them up, challenging them.

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Speaker 5: He's doing his thing.

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Speaker 2: Producer Ryan, We're gonna have to work this picture into

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Speaker 2: the tweets promoting this podcast. This is a white, casual,

679
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Speaker 2: quite casual looking Chris Haynes on his non sideline day.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna tell you right now, I've

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Speaker 3: gotten spoiled. And the reason I've gotten spoiled, Stein is

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Speaker 3: because you know our job. You know, usually the way

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Speaker 3: people don't know how our job works. You know, I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of people in my family, even friends.

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Speaker 3: I tell them, you know, they'll ask what time the

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Speaker 3: game start or the game starts seven thirty, Okay, so

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Speaker 3: you're getting there at seven. I'm like, no, no, don't

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Speaker 3: get there at seven. I'm there at least probably at

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Speaker 3: minimum three hours.

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Speaker 5: Before the game.

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Speaker 3: There's actually press conferences, we got our team and coaches speak,

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Speaker 3: locker room opens, like, I have work to do before

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Speaker 3: the game starts. Then I have to watch the game.

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Speaker 3: Then after the game, I have to do postgame media,

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Speaker 3: do all that. Then we start the writing process at night.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of times you're not starting that till

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Speaker 3: ten thirty eleven o'clock. But Stein, after doing that all

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Speaker 3: these years and You've done it way longer than me.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten spoiled with TV Stein, because you understand, when

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Speaker 3: I'm on the tn T broadcast, iinn as soon as

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Speaker 3: the game is over, Stein.

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Speaker 4: I'm out, I'm out.

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Speaker 3: I walked past Vincent Goodwill the other day, I said, goodbye,

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Speaker 3: you peasant. I'm going to my hotel. Goodbye. You're going

705
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: to start work, and I've ended work. I've done. But

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Speaker 3: last night of the night after Game three, I was

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Speaker 3: a writer and so I had to actually stay and

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Speaker 3: do the locker room thing again. So it was cool

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Speaker 3: because I haven't done it in a minute. But I

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00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: got spoiled and I was able to leave the game

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Speaker 3: and like when the refs leave, like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the only time I have been in a similar position.

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Speaker 2: The only time is the years that I got to

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Speaker 2: do Finals ESPN radio at the Finals, same thing. And

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Speaker 2: to leave a finals game with Hubie was just like

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Speaker 2: such a treat to leave right away with Hubie and

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Speaker 2: then kind of hear him break it down off the

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Speaker 2: air after he's so fired up about how good the

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Speaker 2: game was. Now, look with you doing all that, with

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Speaker 2: you spending all that time with the Lakers, I'm guessing

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Speaker 2: you there's only one of you, so you couldn't have

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Speaker 2: had too much time to check in with the Warriors

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Speaker 2: post game. But what's the pulse take on them right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really thought they were going to go

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Speaker 2: in there and get Game three. Now they have to

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Speaker 2: get Game four. They don't. They don't want to go

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Speaker 2: down three to one and put themselves in position of

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Speaker 2: having to win three straight to save their season. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do you think you know? All the talk has

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Speaker 2: been about the free throw disparity. Steph is driving to

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Speaker 2: the hoop a ton and he's not going to the

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Speaker 2: line at all. Try to take the Lakers temperature for us.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, Try to take the Warriors temperature for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is what I would say. I was

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Speaker 3: disappointed at dreymnd wasn't able to play in the game

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Speaker 3: due to foul trouble because to me, he was the

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Speaker 3: difference maker in Game two. Like I said before, Draymond

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Speaker 3: has always played Ad extremely well, always have, and we didn't.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see how A d was going to

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Speaker 3: adjust in game three. Now, AD had a phenomenal Game three,

741
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Speaker 3: but it wasn't that much on Draymond. Draymond was in

742
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Speaker 3: foul trouble, so the AD was able to attack Draymond.

743
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Speaker 3: Draymond got a few of those block those blocking fouls

744
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Speaker 3: that that the Warriors on one of them tried to overturn,

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00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: did not. Draymond was heated, of course. So I want

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Speaker 3: to see how a d is going to be able

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Speaker 3: to go against a Draymond that has all of his

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Speaker 3: foules and can play them straight up. But I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's no panic in that locker room. I did

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Speaker 3: not go with in the locker room. I did listen

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Speaker 3: to their their press confis. I was listening to what

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00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: Steph and what Draymond said, and Draymond he continues to

753
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Speaker 3: do these these podcasts right right after the game. He's

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Speaker 3: continuing on and more props to them, He's continuing them

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Speaker 3: on after losses, and.

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Speaker 5: So this was funny.

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Speaker 3: I remember when dray Bond was getting ridiculed for for

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Speaker 3: continuing his podcast last postseason and he had that, uh,

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Speaker 3: he went on this rent y'all gonna get this podcast,

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Speaker 3: y'all gonna get this podcast. Oh. I love dre Man,

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00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: that dude, God love that dude. But yeah, so there's

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Speaker 3: no panic in there whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: They do.

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Speaker 3: They're not saying it publicly. They they do believe they

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Speaker 3: got the they were on the wrong end of some calls.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's gonna even itself out in Game four.

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Speaker 3: So I'm very, very intrigued by how both teams are

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Speaker 3: gonna come out in Game four. And again I have

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Speaker 3: that game, and that's going to be such a pivotal

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Speaker 3: game right there, So I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 3: There's really no panicing in either locker room right now.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, lots to look forward to this week. Chris Haynes

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Speaker 2: working sidelines for the next two games in Lakers Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if the Warriors can forge a two to

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Speaker 2: two series like the Suns did and like the Sixers did.

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Speaker 2: On this Sunday, we haven't even talked about Nick's Heat.

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Speaker 2: We've kind of short changed that series, and we will

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Speaker 2: make it up to you here in the next pod somehow.

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Speaker 2: Apologies to Knicks fans and Heat fans. We owe you,

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Speaker 2: We owe you some some longer looks at that series.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler does come back for Game three, puts Miami

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Speaker 2: up to one. Game four in Miami, all NBA team

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Speaker 2: will be announced this week. We got some more NBA

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Speaker 2: awards coming. All Rookie Team comes out Monday. All Defensive

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Speaker 2: Team comes out Tuesday, and then Wednesday. All three All

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Speaker 2: NBA teams we learn them. Does John Morant? Does the

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Speaker 2: value of John Morant's Max contract decline nearly forty million?

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Speaker 2: If as expected, John Morant does not appear on one

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Speaker 2: of those three All NBA teams? Does Jalen Brown? Does

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Speaker 2: he make second or third Team All NBA, which would

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Speaker 2: give the Boston Celtics the chance to offer him much

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Speaker 2: more money in a contract extension and greatly enhance the

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Speaker 2: chances of keeping the Tatum and Brown the two j's together.

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Speaker 2: We'll get those answers later this week, and Chris and

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Speaker 2: I will be back with you later this week for

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Speaker 2: the next episode of This League Uncut. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: please rate, review, and subscribe to the show. Everybody, Thanks

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