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Speaker 1: if you guys remember Timberwolves fans coming into this season,

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Speaker 1: that was all stuff that we knew Anthony Edwards was

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Speaker 1: There are in seven games so far this year, Anthony

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Speaker 1: the length and athleticism you have in rotation and the

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Speaker 1: effect that Jada McDaniels and Edwards can have offering late

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Speaker 1: contests as freak athletes the way that they are, I

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Speaker 1: think that that stuff plays a role. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: this with the Lakers. It's like, do their guards need

435
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Speaker 1: to make shots? Yeah, but I think what'll actually help

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Speaker 1: them make shots is that they get better quality shots, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I do think these things are are very intricately related. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: perimeter defense, solid rotations, excellent rimp protection. That's a recipe

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Speaker 1: for one of the best defenses of this era. And

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Speaker 1: when you combine that with the ascendants, with the assent

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Speaker 1: to superstart him from Anthony Edwards and the solid contributions

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Speaker 1: they're getting around him, you have yourself a damn good

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Speaker 1: basketball team. Again, like this early in the season, to

444
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Speaker 1: already have wins against Boston and Denver, who have pretty

445
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Speaker 1: much looked dominant against everybody else. Can't do much better

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Speaker 1: than that to start the year. All right, eleven mail

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Speaker 1: bag questions before we get out of here today. So,

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Speaker 1: first one, you mentioned how you can't bet on the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: with Tatum as their number one option, with which I

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Speaker 1: agree with. What would be the path for a team

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Speaker 1: like that who has a good enough supporting cast win

452
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Speaker 1: but just don't seem like they ever will with their

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Speaker 1: current number one guy. Should Boston try and do what

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Speaker 1: Toronto did with the Kawhi trade and trade Tatum for

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Speaker 1: someone who can actually lead them, pray for good circumstances

456
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Speaker 1: and push like the MAVs did with Dirk, or just

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Speaker 1: accept that, regardless of overall talent, with Tatum as the

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Speaker 1: number one, championship won't be really feasible in the current

459
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Speaker 1: era basketball. So there are three teams right now that

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Speaker 1: I look at that are kind of in the middle

461
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Speaker 1: of this sort of predicament, and it's the Celtics, the Hawks,

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Speaker 1: and the Sixers. The difference is is like each team

463
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Speaker 1: is kind of in a different situation. Like I genuinely

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Speaker 1: believe Tatum will be good enough one day, So I

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Speaker 1: have advocated that patience is the appropriate strategy for the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: They should wait see if Tatum develops. Trey Young to me,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that he's not. Like, if Trey Young

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Speaker 1: is the best player on your team, I just don't

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Speaker 1: think you can win a championship. Trey Young's awesome made

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Speaker 1: another incredibly high level pass in pick and roll fading

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Speaker 1: out of bounds last night, that hook pass to the

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Speaker 1: corner to Dejonta Murray that basically ended up being the

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Speaker 1: game winner last night against the Magic God knows. I

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Speaker 1: respect and believe in what Trey Young can do as

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Speaker 1: a basketball player, but strictly within the context of the

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Speaker 1: championship goal, I think if he's your best player, there's

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Speaker 1: a limitation there. So as a franchise, you either need

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Speaker 1: to accept that as long as he's there, that's not

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Speaker 1: really an option and kind of adjust your expectations or

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Speaker 1: try to go get one of those guys. Now. To

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Speaker 1: be clear, like when you really look down down the league,

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Speaker 1: like in NBA history, there's always one of those guys

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Speaker 1: leading the way, right, you absolutely have to have that guy.

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Speaker 1: So again, to me, it's about the expectations of your franchise.

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Speaker 1: If you're just trying to be good, then a guy

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Speaker 1: like Trey Young's fine, and you can keep him forever

487
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Speaker 1: and you'll have some fun playoff runs and you'll never

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Speaker 1: get the trophy, right, But if you're if you're the

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics, and that's clearly a failure for you. You

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Speaker 1: need to make a decis about your star. But again,

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Speaker 1: I think Tatum's going to be that guy. I think

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Speaker 1: there's enough information there just from what we've seen He's

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Speaker 1: eventually going to be that guy. Joel Embiid is like,

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Speaker 1: it's a question. My thing would be if he goes

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs again this year and he again has

496
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Speaker 1: some sort of nagging injury, and he again seems to

497
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Speaker 1: get stonewalled by a decent, big foard defender in the playoffs,

498
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Speaker 1: and again he can't trust his jump shot, and again

499
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Speaker 1: his scoring craters into the low twenties. As a franchise,

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Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself, like, do we want to

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Speaker 1: be the next Houston Rockets that are really good? But

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Speaker 1: every time we run into another one of the top

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Speaker 1: tier superstars, our James hard and Joel Embiid, whoever it is,

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Speaker 1: ends up coming up short to a better player, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Like, I think the Sixers are

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Speaker 1: our right to keep trying. But if after this season

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Speaker 1: it happens again, now you've got to look back and

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Speaker 1: be like, man, that's three consecutive seasons in the heart

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Speaker 1: of Joel Embiid's prime where he completely fell apart in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and you'd have to have a conversation with yourself, right.

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Speaker 1: Same thing goes with Trey Young. But as far as

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum goes, I think it's pretty clear that he's

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Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys. Here's a Lakers question.

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Speaker 1: Since four out was working so well last season, why

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Speaker 1: the did they implement the five out this season? Obviously

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Speaker 1: they don't have the personnel to run five out and

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Speaker 1: it's shown just eight games in historically the worst first

518
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Speaker 1: quarter team through eight games last and three point percentage

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Speaker 1: twenty ninth in mid threes per game. So we talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit about this at the end of the

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Speaker 1: show yesterday, but again a quick refresher for those who

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Speaker 1: don't realize, like a five out offenses is like what

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Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors run. And we talked about this

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Speaker 1: a lot on this show when we talked about the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: But basically, it's like it's a motion offense, a steady

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Speaker 1: diet of wide pinned downs, dribble handoffs, ball screens and

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Speaker 1: everything mixed around, like consistent motion from five players on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. Right and even when a defender or when

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Speaker 1: an offensive player rolls to the rim or cuts to

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Speaker 1: the rim, they immediately relocate back out to the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: And the idea is the Again, like if you look

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Speaker 1: at the teams that run five out offense teams like

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Speaker 1: you know Sacramento and Golden State or just a couple

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Speaker 1: of examples, they are they have really high level shot

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Speaker 1: makers and they have guards that are super quick that

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Speaker 1: can get downhill and make kickout reads. Right, So like

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Speaker 1: you have Malik Munk and Deer and Fox who can

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Speaker 1: consistently beat people off the dribble and they're kicking out

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Speaker 1: to guys like Kevin Herder and and a Keegan Murray.

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Speaker 1: You are excellent spot up shooters, right, although Kevin Herder

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Speaker 1: struggling to shoot this year. Then then in addition to that,

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Speaker 1: like Keegan Murray and Kevin Herder are guys that like

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Speaker 1: to come off of screens and dribble handoffs and rise

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Speaker 1: and fire. So it works right. For Golden State, it's

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Speaker 1: a little different. It's less about their the quickness of

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Speaker 1: their guards and it's more about just the outrageous shooting.

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Speaker 1: Like Stephan Klay are just so damn good at shooting.

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Speaker 1: That they constantly can get slips to the rim for

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Speaker 1: their other players as defenses overreact to them, and then

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Speaker 1: even when it comes to dribble penetration, it's easier for

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Speaker 1: them because they're such outstanding shooters. The Lakers are in

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Speaker 1: an awkward position where their guards on the wing that

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Speaker 1: are playing let's just look at their their their one,

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Speaker 1: two three. So if we look at Reeves Dlo Torrian Prince,

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Speaker 1: Reeves is a good shot maker, not a great shot maker,

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Speaker 1: and he's an average athlete that's not going to toast

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Speaker 1: people off the dribble. D Lo good shot maker, not

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Speaker 1: great shot shot maker, decent athlete or like an average

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Speaker 1: athlete that's going to struggle to beat people off the dribble.

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Speaker 1: Torrian Prince, he's a good off ball player, good catch

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Speaker 1: and shoot player, but when it comes to taking tougher

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Speaker 1: shots off the move, he's only okay at it. He's

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Speaker 1: good at it, but he's not great at it, right,

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Speaker 1: And he's another guy who's not an outstanding athlete who

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Speaker 1: can beat people off the dribble. So, like part of

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Speaker 1: the issue for me with the with the five out

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Speaker 1: approach for the for the Lakers is simply that they

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Speaker 1: are not good enough at making tough contested shots or

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Speaker 1: off the move, off the dribble shots, and they're not

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Speaker 1: good enough at beating people off the dribble to actually

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Speaker 1: run that offense. What they have, that's what they have

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Speaker 1: that's really good is they have two backcourt pick and

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Speaker 1: roll guys who, when they're given space to operate, are

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Speaker 1: pretty solid throughout the course of the regular season at

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Speaker 1: generating quality shots, meaning like they can get to a

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Speaker 1: mid range pull up jump shot, they can hit the

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Speaker 1: pocket pass, they can make kickout reads on the weak

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Speaker 1: side right they're both pretty good at that when they

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Speaker 1: have space. And again, just imagine a cleared side pick

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Speaker 1: and roll. So I've got a shooter in the corner

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Speaker 1: wing kind of like elbow extended to the top of

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Speaker 1: the key, and I'm running like a Reeves Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: pick and roll on the right side. There's just a

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Speaker 1: ton of space to operate. And Austin's really shifty, and

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Speaker 1: he's good at drawing fouls, and he's good at making

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Speaker 1: shots when he's getting fouled, and when you get ad

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Speaker 1: a pocket pass when there's lots of space, he can

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Speaker 1: have some success there. But when it's like a cluster

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Speaker 1: fuck for lack of a better term, and you're running

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Speaker 1: a ball screen or dribble handoff, and you've got guys

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Speaker 1: just equally spread out along the perimeter. They're all the

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Speaker 1: space is underneath the basket. And what's hard about that

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Speaker 1: is in order to take advantage of that, you have

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Speaker 1: to be good at beating people off the dribble, and

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves and D'Angelo Russell are not straight line athletes.

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Speaker 1: Even Anthony Davis is not a straight line athlete, and

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Speaker 1: so like that's why they've been so good with Lebron

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Speaker 1: James on the floor offensively, is he's one of the

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Speaker 1: guys that can kind of actually generate that rim pressure.

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Speaker 1: So like, for me, it makes more sense with this

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Speaker 1: team to spread the floor in a four out concept,

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Speaker 1: So shooters in the corners, shooters on the wings, and

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Speaker 1: then come run that pick and roll with Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: so that they have the entire side of the floor

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Speaker 1: to work with, or maybe even clear the side entirely

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Speaker 1: by moving that corner shooter over to the other side

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Speaker 1: and let those guys work two man game. Like we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot. The idea of a brute

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Speaker 1: force offense versus like a system offense. Right, And to me,

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Speaker 1: the five out teams that succeed, they are teams that

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Speaker 1: actually have the the talent to run that kind of

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Speaker 1: system offense. But like to me, the Lakers are very

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Speaker 1: much a brute force offense. They have a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys who are really good as long as the circumstances

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Speaker 1: favor them in terms of spacing. Right, like Lebron James

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Speaker 1: still to this day, if you let him post up,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get a quality shot. Right, Anthony Davis has

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Speaker 1: been well over a point per possession and post up

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Speaker 1: each of the last post ups each of the last

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Speaker 1: two years. So like those two guys screening and rolling

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Speaker 1: to the rim and a spread floor, operating in a

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Speaker 1: post up situation in the spread floor, that's great even

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Speaker 1: now imagine the off ball situation. Dangel Russell and Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves excellent catch and shoot players. Dangel Russell and Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves average pull up jump shooters, So like lean into

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Speaker 1: them getting more catch and shoot opportunities by operating off

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Speaker 1: the ball in a spread floor pick and roll situation

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Speaker 1: rather than doing this read and react five out thing

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Speaker 1: where none of them are particularly good at the things

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Speaker 1: you need to be good at in order to make

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Speaker 1: that work. That's kind of where I'm at with the

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers offense at this point. We'll continue to

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Speaker 1: kind of flush out that concept as we get further

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Speaker 1: into the season. Next meil By question, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask why core players tend to play a significant amount

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Speaker 1: of minutes in the third and fourth quarter even if

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Speaker 1: their team is leading by a big market margin, for example,

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Speaker 1: twenty plus points. For example, I watched the timber Wolves

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Speaker 1: as Pelicans today. Anthony Edwards and Gobert still played the

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Speaker 1: third and fourth and both ended up playing thirty two

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Speaker 1: minutes for the whole game. I feel to Norman the NBA,

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Speaker 1: but why core players don't take more rest even if

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Speaker 1: a game is already decided. They usually do towards the

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Speaker 1: tail end of the year. To me, this is related

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Speaker 1: to the start of the year. I think most NBA

646
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Speaker 1: teams right now are pushing minutes a little bit higher,

647
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Speaker 1: even when they don't necessarily need to, as a result

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Speaker 1: of just trying to get guys into NBA season shape. Remember,

649
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Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of guys Julius Randall Jalen Brunson,

650
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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard. These are all guys that came into the

651
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Speaker 1: season and now they're playing their way into shape. And

652
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Speaker 1: when they're not practicing, they don't literally have an opportunity

653
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Speaker 1: to work on these things except for within games, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that's why they're pushing their minute right now.

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Speaker 1: Next mail back questions from Malcolm. Hey, Jason, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of Asar Thompson's potential? He didn't get as

657
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Speaker 1: much attention as a men on Overtime, Elite or in

658
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Speaker 1: the draft. I think he can be a better version

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Speaker 1: of a men, and I think I think he can

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00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: be better than a man, and think he can be

661
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: a better version of Iguadala on the Warriors. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? So, I obviously haven't watched the Pistons as

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00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: closely as I've watched some other teams that I've watched

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Speaker 1: two games of them so far this year, and then

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Speaker 1: I watched their preseason games because we scouted Asar over

666
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: the preseason. We did a whole video on that, and

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Speaker 1: then I scouted him this summer. To put it simply,

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Speaker 1: he's not a very good basketball player right now, just

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Speaker 1: because he's so limited on the offensive end as a

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Speaker 1: shot maker and as a decision maker, there's still like

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Speaker 1: there was a random play at the end of the

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Speaker 1: Bucks game where he just try to transition push at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game and challenged a rim protector,

674
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, calm down, right, you know, But

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Speaker 1: when it comes to young players, you almost want to

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Speaker 1: put the bad aside and just focus on the good

677
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: because most of the bad stuff is just typical for

678
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: all young basketball players and can be flushed out over time.

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Speaker 1: Right he's averaging four offensive rebounds and two blocks per

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Speaker 1: game thirty two minutes. I think he's probably the best

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Speaker 1: perimeter defender prospect I personally have scouted in the last

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Speaker 1: few years. Mind you, I haven't done this very long,

683
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Speaker 1: but in the time that I've been doing this, I

684
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Speaker 1: can't remember seeing a perimeter defender that showed a better

685
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Speaker 1: combination of like lateral quickness, first and second jump ability

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Speaker 1: meaning like to contest shots either under the basket or

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Speaker 1: after being broken down off of a move, the ability

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Speaker 1: to navigate screens, natural length like that. There was a

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Speaker 1: play at the end of the Bucks game where Damian

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Speaker 1: Lillard is on a freaking heater, like he's just going

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Speaker 1: and he hits Asar Thompson with a hard dribble to

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Speaker 1: his left step back jump shot does like another one

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Speaker 1: of those like slide steps like the hard and step back.

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Speaker 1: After he does the step back gets all the way

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Speaker 1: to the three point line in a SAR blocked the

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Speaker 1: damn shot. A SAR blocked it. And like like, there

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Speaker 1: are some clips of him navigating screens or blocking perimeter

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Speaker 1: players that are truly jarring for it for his position.

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Speaker 1: So again, like it's gonna be what kind of person

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Speaker 1: he becomes player he becomes in the big picture will

701
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: come come down to his offensive development, but his his

702
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Speaker 1: perimeter defense potential is off the charts, and that's super

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Speaker 1: super exciting, especially when you really a factor in the team,

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Speaker 1: right And like, I don't know if it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Jaden Ivy or Killian Hayes that flanks k Cunningham over

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Speaker 1: the years, but if Arsar Thompson can take primary point

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Speaker 1: of attack assignments and do it well, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: just a huge asset for your team to have. It

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Speaker 1: allows you to you know, kind of conserve some energy

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Speaker 1: in your backcourt, so to speak. Which new coach do

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Speaker 1: you think has had the best impact on their new team.

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Speaker 1: I think this one's pretty obviously email Udoka here in

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Speaker 1: the early going, as the Rockets have looked really good,

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Speaker 1: he had a he's just an excellent motivator. That was

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Speaker 1: the big story coming out of the Celtics when he

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Speaker 1: was there. He just basically made them tough. He said

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Speaker 1: after the Lakers game that he basically went up to

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green and was like, hey, dude, you were on

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Speaker 1: the Select team. Austin Reeves was on the on Team USA,

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Speaker 1: and like, like, why don't you go show that you're better

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Speaker 1: than him? Right? And like, is Austin Reeves better than

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Speaker 1: Jalen Green. I'm not even gonna answer that question, but

723
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Speaker 1: like he managed to piss off Jalen Green because he

724
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Speaker 1: went out in that game and he kicked Austin's ass.

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Speaker 1: And so again, like he's just an excellent motivator. I

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Speaker 1: think he's done a really good job kind of rebuilding

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Speaker 1: the culture in Houston and they look like a winner

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Speaker 1: right now. Next question from Dalvin Jason. This was funny.

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Speaker 1: This isn't really a question. It was just someone talking shit,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to address it. From Dalvin Jason. While

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Speaker 1: I love and appreciate your glowing praise of the best

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Speaker 1: player in the league, Jokic and the ragning champions Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: I cannot help but remember all the instances you shot

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Speaker 1: on them in the last two years. Didn't lose me

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Speaker 1: as a fan or subscriber, but I didn't forget and

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Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate. So this is actually one of my

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Speaker 1: biggest pet peeves. And don't take this personally, Dalvin. I'm

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Speaker 1: just this is something that I've that's annoyed me for

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Speaker 1: a while, and I just want to kind of give

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Speaker 1: my take on it. Why is it that anytime anybody

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Speaker 1: doesn't heap praise on somebody, they're now shitting on them.

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Speaker 1: Because I don't remember ever saying that I thought Jokic

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Speaker 1: was a bad basketball player. I don't remember saying that

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets can't win the championship. I said two things consistently,

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to Jokic himself. I always said, in

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Speaker 1: the modern era, I'm concerned about centers like plotting centers

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Speaker 1: because of the way they can get spread out, in

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Speaker 1: the way they can struggle in transition. I ended up

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Speaker 1: being wrong about that. But the best indicator of future

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Speaker 1: performance is past performance. And we were literally seeing in

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Speaker 1: every playoff run, every slow flooted center get it played

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Speaker 1: off the floor. It was happening every single playoff run.

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Speaker 1: Jokic is just so damn good. He was able to

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Speaker 1: overcome that couple of particular ways. One, he's an excellent

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Speaker 1: transition player, so like literally he has just by sheer

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Speaker 1: force of habit and will, he sprints up and down

757
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Speaker 1: the floor so well in transition that he never struggles there.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he actually beats more athletic centers up and

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Speaker 1: down the floor in transition. Looking at the defensive end

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Speaker 1: and spreading him out. He's shown that he can be

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Speaker 1: a good enough defender that it isn't a problem. So again,

762
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Speaker 1: like I was making a like, all I said was

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Speaker 1: Jokich is a superstar. I just have other superstars above

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Speaker 1: him because I leaned towards perimeter players because of their

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Speaker 1: playoff versatility. That's all I said. Then we move on

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Speaker 1: to the Nuggets piece. What did I say? NBA history

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Speaker 1: tells us that you do not win the championship unless

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Speaker 1: you are a top ten defense, unless you're the defending champions.

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Speaker 1: The Rockets in the mid nineties, the Lakers in the

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, and then the Warriors in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: They were all defending champions, and they were the only

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Speaker 1: three champions that weren't top ten defenses. And again the

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Speaker 1: clear indicator there was they were top ten defenses before

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Speaker 1: and in that following season they were classic trying to repeat,

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Speaker 1: a little less motivated, a little less locked in, but

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Speaker 1: then they got to the playoffs and then they re

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Speaker 1: locked in. Right, So again I'm gonna repeat the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I just said, the best indicator of future performance is

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Speaker 1: past performance. I was making a prediction based on actual

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Speaker 1: NBA historical data. Just because Jokics broke the mold for

781
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Speaker 1: centers and the Nuggets broke the mold for championship teams

782
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I shit on the Nuggets. That's just

783
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: that's completely ridiculous. If I shit on the Nuggets, I

784
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Speaker 1: would have said the Nuggets suck, they can't win. Never

785
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Speaker 1: said that. Going into the playoffs last year, I said

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Speaker 1: they can win. I'm just skeptical because of NBA history,

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Speaker 1: right when Jokic, When I had Jokics ranked below the

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Speaker 1: other superstars, I literally had him and MB down there

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Speaker 1: and I said, I it's just because of my philosophy,

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: my overarching basketball philosophy surrounding slower footed centers as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to the perimeter oriented stars at the top of

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Speaker 1: the league. Now I've and like and again all all

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Speaker 1: I will promise to do, which is the truth, Like

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Speaker 1: this is this is the way that I make predictions.

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Speaker 1: I take previous data and I use that to inform

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Speaker 1: my my my predictions. Right, But when new data comes

797
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Speaker 1: in and the new data goes crosswise with what the

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Speaker 1: old data was, I'm always willing to embrace that as

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Speaker 1: a potential change. And that's the thing. Now I see,

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Speaker 1: now that Jokic has the trophy, I'm i I can

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Speaker 1: like see all of these specific reasons why he was

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Speaker 1: able to kind of flip the mold, right, And again,

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Speaker 1: you have to you have to think of it really simply,

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Speaker 1: like what about what have I always said were my

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Speaker 1: kind of rules, like with my player rankings, like get

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: the trophy and I'll defend you forever. But before you

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00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: have the trophy, I'm always going to revert to the

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Speaker 1: guys with the trophy. That's just my approach. You're either

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Speaker 1: you're either the guy who's trying to jump on the

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Speaker 1: bandwagon as soon as possible, or you're the guy that

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Speaker 1: gets on the bandwagon a little later, and I'd always

812
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Speaker 1: rather be a guy who gets on the bandwagon a

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Speaker 1: little late as a homage or respect towards the guys

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Speaker 1: who've already done it. That that, to me, is just

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Speaker 1: my personal approach. Had nothing to do with disliking the Nuggets.

816
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: And again, like I want to push back on that.

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Speaker 1: In general, if I say something that is somewhat critical

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Speaker 1: of your favorite team or player, it does not mean

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Speaker 1: that I hate your favorite team or player and that

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Speaker 1: I think they're incapable of achieving anything. I'm just putting

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Speaker 1: basketball analysis out there, and my analysis always changes based

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Speaker 1: on new information. If you have a good team out

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Speaker 1: there and you guys start playing great basketball, I'm never

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Speaker 1: going to overlook that because I hate your team. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's just it's just not an emotion that I

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Speaker 1: am capable of experiencing. For whatever I love, I just

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Speaker 1: I love basketball so much that like, I pretty much

828
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Speaker 1: find things that I love in every team. Like Dylan

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Speaker 1: Brooks I find to be mostly reprehensible, but I have

830
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Speaker 1: so much appreciation for what he can do as a

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Speaker 1: basketball player that I still kind of like him. You

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Speaker 1: kind of get the point, is what I'm talking about here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Harden and Bea are great examples of that too, Jason,

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Speaker 1: when you describe Dylan Brooks, if I wasn't listening, all

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Speaker 1: those points could be made about Draymond. If anything, Dylan

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Speaker 1: never kicks someone in the nuts or in the stomach

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Speaker 1: or punch teammate. If you're saying things with a straight

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Speaker 1: face about Dylan but pretend to ignore what Draymond has

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Speaker 1: been doing for years, that's a lack of integrity. Not

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Speaker 1: that I expected it from you, who's a lebron Draymond

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Speaker 1: will skip over the expletive, but still it's painful to

842
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: listen to delusion and agenda. So this is not the

843
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Speaker 1: first person who's said this and just put it simply.

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Speaker 1: They're not the same. Draymond is really physical. He fouls

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Speaker 1: a lot. He does occasionally commit hard fouls. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I've never seen Draymond do. I have never seen Draymond

847
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Speaker 1: attack a defenseless player going up for a layup in

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Speaker 1: transition by clotheslining him over the neck and breaking his

849
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: freaking elbow. I've never seen Draymond do that. Here's another

850
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: thing I've never seen Draymond do. I have never seen

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00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Raymond Green on the ground deliver do a dramatic barrel

852
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: roll into another player's legs and nearly hurt the player's

853
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: ankle and knee. Dylan Brooks did that to Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks engages in deeply dangerous behaviors that can injure

855
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: basketball players. That is not the same as being like

856
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: overly physical, because I would agree Draymond's overly physical. He's

857
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: also very emotional. And I literally came out after he punched.

858
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: He works from our damn company, and I came out

859
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: after he punched Dylan Jordan Poole and said it was

860
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: bad leadership, straight up came out and said that I

861
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: was very critical of Draymond Green after the punch. Okay,

862
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: so like again, like this is this is not this

863
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: does not take a lot of critical thinking. Here find

864
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: the If I'm wrong, If there is some clip of

865
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: Draymond Green deliberately doing something that could severely injure a player,

866
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: send it to me and then I will come up

867
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: here and I'll apologize. But as far as I'm concerned,

868
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: there is a line, and the line is like there

869
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of players in the NBA that play

870
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: a physical brand of basketball, that grab and and and

871
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: pull jerseys and and hit guys and do all these

872
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: different things, but they're not hurting people. There's a difference.

873
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: The difference is they're hurting and like Dylan Brooks on

874
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: multiple occasions has done deliberate things that had the potential

875
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: hurt I remember watching that that Donovan Mitchell play, and

876
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, he did that on purpose.

877
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: He literally did a full barrel role multiple times into

878
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell's legs, and thankfully Donovan didn't get hurt. So again, like,

879
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: let's let let's cut the shit here and let's let's

880
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: let's draw a clear line in the sand between a

881
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: physical basketball player and a guy who's actually made attempts

882
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: to hurt people in the past. And actually like he

883
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: actually removed Gary Payton from the playoffs, actually removed him,

884
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: and he like saw him, like saw him and was like, yeah,

885
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna closeline this dude in the head in

886
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: the middle of a playoff game. Like that's the kind

887
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: of person he is, And I have a huge problem

888
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: with it. I don't know what else to tell you,

889
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: all right, next mail back question, what do you think,

890
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: other than getting a Lonzo back, could the Bulls do

891
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: to make the team better? Is there a trade that

892
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: can be made, like Levine for ojnnob or Damar or

893
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, Levine for Ojana Andobi or Damar for Austin Reeves.

894
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: So I lean towards a full rebuild for the Chicago Bulls,

895
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: And the main reason is this, they don't have a

896
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: single player on the roster who projects to even maybe

897
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: be a true superstar in the future. Do I like

898
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Williams, Yeah, good player, not a superstar. Do I

899
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: like Zach Levine, Yeah, very good player, not a superstar.

900
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: Demarto Rosen is literally in his thirties, Like he is

901
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: what he is at this point, you know, so like

902
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: and like they have some interesting young players, right, like

903
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Kobe White's interesting Io dessume was interesting, Like Alex Cruso

904
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: is one of the best role players in the league

905
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But they simply do not have a

906
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: single player on the roster that even projects to maybe

907
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: be a superstar. So like, at some point you've got

908
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: to kind of identify that. And before you say, like, oh,

909
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: it's a small market, we don't have the ability to

910
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: get those types of players. That's not true either. Oklahoma

911
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: City small market, they have Sha Shae Giljas Alexander projects

912
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: to be a bonafide superstar. Minnesota Timberwolves if Anthony Edwards

913
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: projects to be a bonafide superstar, Sacramento as Deer and

914
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: Fox at least might be a bonafide superstar. Right Cleveland

915
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: as Donovan Mitchell at least might be a bonafide superstar.

916
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Denver has Jokic best player in the world, Milwaukee is

917
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: Jiannis second best player in the world. Memphis Grizzlies have

918
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: John Moran projects to be a bonafide superstar. So again,

919
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: like these are all small markets that have that guy.

920
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: So if you don't have one of those guys, everything

921
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: you do needs to be geared around getting one of

922
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: those guys. Now is has a Chicago ever demonstrated a

923
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, Miami heat esque or you know the Lakers

924
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: have been good at this over the years too. But

925
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: like finding star level players are very very very good

926
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: players in the margin, No, Chicago is not one of

927
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: those teams. So, like to me, you really need to

928
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: be making all your moves geared around trying to find

929
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: who that guy is, so I would be just trying

930
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: to bring in as much draft capital as possible. So

931
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I lean full rebuild for Chicago. That's what makes the

932
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: most sense to me. If you had to do a

933
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: soft rebuild, rebuild around Levine, flip DeRozan, flip Vusvich, get

934
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: dominant defensive front court personnel, and see if Levine can

935
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of push you enough offensively over the top. But

936
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: whatever their current strategy is, I simply don't understand. All right,

937
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: we have three more mailback questions. Do you think gms

938
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: should willingly one more note on the the bulls thing.

939
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: Once you do find one of those guys, that's when

940
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: you start trying to build the roster around the margins, right,

941
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: And it's about what that player's strengths and weaknesses are.

942
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: So you gotta find out who your guy is, and

943
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: then what is your guy good at and bad at?

944
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: What does he need around it? It's like Luca, Like

945
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: they know they need shooting around Luca, and they need

946
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: good role man around Luca. So that's the kind of

947
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: player that they target, right, Like that, that's just what

948
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Right, if you're Anthony Davis, what

949
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: if the Lakers tried to do give them a bunch

950
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: of pick and roll ball handlers because they know Anthony

951
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Davis can't run his own offense. So like, you have

952
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: to identify strengths and weaknesses based around your star, all right.

953
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: This question is kind of related to that. Do you

954
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: think gms should willingly give up more talent in return

955
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: for players who are less talented or have less potential

956
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: but fit their team better instead of seeking the best

957
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: talent potential when making moves. For example, Jordan Poole is

958
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: definitely more talented than Chris Paul at this stage of

959
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: his career. The trade seems to have paid off, but

960
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: the Warriors definitely gave up way more talent than they received. Again,

961
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: depends on the window. So like, the Warriors are in

962
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: a very tight championship window based on Steph Curry being

963
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: thirty five years old, right, That's why it makes sense

964
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: for them to give up long term potential for a

965
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: player who might fit them better right now, right, But

966
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: it just depends, and you've got to make that decision

967
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: based on like, for instance, if you're the Thunder, your

968
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: windows way longer, So it would be terrible to like,

969
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: let's say that the Thunder went and like, I don't know,

970
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: found some way to piece salaries together and they were like,

971
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: we want to upgrade, you know, Jalen Williams into a

972
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: veteran forward that can play next to Chet, and so

973
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: they trade for Jeremy Grant. That'd be stupid because the

974
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: Thunder have a much wider timeline and like, there's a

975
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: version of this two years from now where Jalen Williams

976
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: is better than Jeremy Grant. You know, it might not

977
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: even take that long for him to get there, because

978
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams is really good. So maybe that's a bad example,

979
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: but the point is is like your timeline dictates how

980
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: much your urgency, how much urgency you have, and your

981
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: urgency dictates how much long term potential you'd be willing

982
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: to give up. Hey, Jason bigfan, can you talk about

983
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: the Celtics and how they seem to be using Drew

984
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Holliday to start the season. This is now the third

985
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: time that they've used him that they've started him out

986
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: guarding a bigger star. It starts guarding Julius Randall the

987
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: whole game. Then against the Wolves he straight up started

988
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: on Carl Towns and then yesterday against the Sixers, they

989
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: started hit him on Embiid for several possessions. Haven't really

990
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: heard anybody talk about it in detail at all, but

991
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: I find it super interesting that they're playing like they

992
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: would like they would Marcus Smart who although both elite defenders,

993
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: are both different kinds of defenders with different strengths. So

994
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: we did talk about Drew Holliday guarding Embiid and yesterday's show,

995
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: but we can dive into it a little bit more

996
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: in depth, because, like, what sticks out to you the

997
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: most about those three names that you said? So I

998
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: have Embiid who is a power post player. I have

999
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Julius Randall, who more or less is a wing that

1000
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: or power forward but operates kind of more from the wing,

1001
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: but is more or less a power player. And then

1002
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Carl Towns who's a power player. But what else is

1003
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: interesting about all three of them? All three of them

1004
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: are bad passers. Joel Embiid notoriously struggles to deal with

1005
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: double teams. Carl Towns has more turnovers than assists this year.

1006
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Julius Randall the same kind of thing, a little bit

1007
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: of a tunnel vision guy that kind of barrels his

1008
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: way downhill. So the reason why it works in these

1009
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: matchups is they're already expecting to send help. So Drew

1010
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: is a great disruptor. He's good at fronting the post.

1011
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: He's good at attacking the basketball, attacking your base, and

1012
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: attacking your shooting pocket. He's not trying to bother these

1013
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: guys up top. He's trying to bother them down low, right.

1014
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: And so if you're already planning on sending help because

1015
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: of the fact that there's literally a much easier time

1016
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: rotating on the back end because these guys aren't great passers,

1017
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 1: might as well have your primary defender be a guy

1018
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: that can disrupt down low, who can front the post,

1019
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: who can disrupt the shooting pocket, because he's going to

1020
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: even if they manage to get up around Drew down low,

1021
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 1: they're going to come up into that help defender who's

1022
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: probably going to be a bigger player because everybody else

1023
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: on the floor is bigger than Drew Holliday, right, So

1024
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: that is the interesting element to it. I would be

1025
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: really curious to see if they could do it against

1026
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: better passing bigs, So like when we see the Celtics

1027
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: play the Nuggets, I'd be really curious to see if

1028
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: they try Drew Holiday on Jokich. My guess is they

1029
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: won't because they'll probably try to end up putting Porzingis

1030
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: on him. Right, but for that simple purpose of like,

1031
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to be able to rotate quickly on

1032
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: the back end because he's a great passer. So I

1033
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: think it's an interesting combination of like of taking advantage

1034
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: of the fact that these guys aren't good passers and

1035
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Drew's ability to disrupt them down low as they try

1036
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: to power their way to the basket. All right, last

1037
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: mail back question. I just listened to your most recent

1038
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: Star Wars podcast about Luke Skywalker in the Imperial Remnant.

1039
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: It led to a topic about you guys in wemby

1040
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: ranking Star Wars movies and your surprising take on Rogue One.

1041
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: My mail back question is what's your Star Wars movie's ranking?

1042
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: So this was on my Star Wars podcast that it's

1043
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: not really a Star Wars podcast, it's Everything podcast, but

1044
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: we also cover Star Wars. It's called Two Suns podcasts.

1045
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: It's you could see the little logo thing right here,

1046
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: but we do videos about once a week on YouTube

1047
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: and on the podcast feed and we just talked about

1048
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: everything right now, going through some Star Wars books, but

1049
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: we'll be covering the basically every major movie release slash

1050
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, like Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon,

1051
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: I should say, you know, the last of us Star

1052
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: Wars or big Star Wars fans. We do a lot

1053
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: of Star Wars stuff. We basically do everything Star Wars

1054
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: in terms of like the exded extended universe. So anyway,

1055
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about how Victor Weben Yama is also

1056
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: a diehard Star Wars fan who also completely disowns the

1057
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: sequel trilogy, just like I do, and just like my

1058
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: buddy Luke does. And he ranked his favorite Star Wars

1059
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: movies and I'm going to give you the exact same three.

1060
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: So Wemby said his three favorite were Revenge of the Sith,

1061
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Attack of the Clones, and Empire Strikes Back. And I

1062
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: literally agree perfectly. The reason why I love Attack of

1063
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the Clones and Revenge of the Sith is like, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, the coolest Star Wars story in the entire

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Speaker 1: lore is what's called the Sith Grand Plan, which starts

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Speaker 1: with Darth Baine a thousand years before Palpatine and basely

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Speaker 1: goes all the way through all these Sith lords, and

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Speaker 1: it goes to Darth Plagis, who is Darth Ciitius Palpatine's master,

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Speaker 1: and it culminates in Order sixty six, right, and in

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Speaker 1: them basically overthrowing the Republic. Right. But it actually is

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Speaker 1: like an incredibly intricate plan, very well thought out by

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Speaker 1: George Lucas or conceptualized by George Lucas. And Attack of

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Speaker 1: the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are really fun

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Speaker 1: to go back and rewatch and just look at all

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Speaker 1: the little bits and pieces of manipulation that Palpatine is

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Speaker 1: using to kind of like overthrow everything. So those two

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Speaker 1: movies I've always loved for that reason. Empire Strikes Back

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Speaker 1: is just is just it's it basically takes what was

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Speaker 1: because A New Hope was very much like a very

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Speaker 1: rudimentary movie. There's not a whole lot that happens in it. Right.

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Speaker 1: They Luke finds Han Solo and Obi Wan and they leave,

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Speaker 1: They go to the Death Star, they escape the Death

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Speaker 1: Star with the with Lea, then they go to yav

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Speaker 1: and then they have the battle for they blow up

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Speaker 1: the down. That's literally the movie. It's very very basic right,

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Speaker 1: Empire strikes back, introduces the Emperor, introduces Yoda, dives into

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Speaker 1: like Jedi lore. There, it's very dark and disturbing. There's

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Speaker 1: twists and turns, there's tragedy in it, like just it's

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Speaker 1: it's just It's to me is like the peak of

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Speaker 1: of of Star Wars content. So a good question though,

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Speaker 1: And again if you're looking for basically me talking about

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Speaker 1: anything that's not basketball, that's the place to check out

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Speaker 1: the show right now. Again, we're doing some books, so

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Speaker 1: it's less frequent and a little more slow, but uh,

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Speaker 1: but we get up. We will get a lot busier

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Speaker 1: as as time goes along. All right, guys, that is

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Speaker 1: all I have for today. We are actually going to

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Speaker 1: be coming back later tonight to break down the Friday

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Speaker 1: night slate of games after Lakers Sun, So I will

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Speaker 1: see you guys later this evening. The volume