1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We've got a 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: fun time coming for all of you. Eric Hovedy, who 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: is running for the Senate from Wisconsin, will join us 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: in the next hour. Ryan Gurdusky at the top of 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: the third hour to break down all of the data 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: and analytics as we sit six months. 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Away from election day. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: But we begin today with the what I would say 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: is farcicle continuation of the New York City case against 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. We have had Stormy Daniels on the witness 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: stand and absolutely insanely ridiculous continuation of the sham law 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: fair that has been taking place in New York City. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: And before we get into Stormy Daniels and what she 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: might have have said to me, the story here Buck, 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: and we talked about this quite a lot yesterday with 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Andy McCarthy, is they haven't to me, really proven any 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: criminality on Donald Trump's behalf. And I'm gonna lay into 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: that in a moment, But you know that I like 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: to look at the odds markets you can gamble on 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: basically anything, and the odds that there is going to 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: be a felony conviction of Donald Trump have dropped to 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: seventy five percent likely. That sounds still like a lot, 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: but it means and the chances here have now, according 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: to the gambling markets moved up to a quarter that 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: there is no conviction at all. And I think that's 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: because people are paying attention here and again it comes 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: down to the jury and how well they apply the law. 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: But they haven't actually proven anything. And I want to 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: play a couple of cuts here, cut four. Here is 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Trump speaking before he went in today using sorry cut 33 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: three left wing media reports about how the trial isn't 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: going well for prosecutors. This is him reading cut three. 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: Some of the statements made about this witch hunt on 36 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: CNN Fake New CNN Michael Barre said the proof of 37 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: falsifying records has not been accomplished. On Good Morning America, 38 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: they said, we heard the expense payments to lawyers are 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 3: legal expenses. Also, NBC Today show the challengers that there 40 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: is no smoking gun, no email or tape to prove 41 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: the president's in tenth they don't have a way to 42 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: prove that. That's NBC Today's show. And then Fox News 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: Kadecha Casski said that the gag order is unconstitutional, which of. 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: Course it is. 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: I think all that's true, Buck, and I will play 46 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: a couple of those cuts that he referenced here in 47 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: a moment. But ultimately, I think what even left wing 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: political commentators who have some legal basis and knowledge are 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: having to recognize is what we've told you for some time. 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: This is an incredibly weak case. But even within that context, 51 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: prosecutors are not doing a very good job actually proving 52 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: a crime was committed here. 53 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think it really does matter to look at 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the language we say this when it comes to immigration, 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: for example, illegal immigration. Right now, they want you to 56 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: say newly arrived, and before that it was undocumented, and 57 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: before that it was illegal immigrant, and before that it 58 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: was legal alien. And they've been winning the argument by 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: changing the language. Right. That's true on many things. The 60 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: left is unfortunately better at this than we tend to be, 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: because there's something underhanded about it. I mean, they're shifting 62 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: language without addressing the argument. But I just think, Clay, 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: we talked about a hush money trial. A hush money 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: isn't a crime, correct, So that's not you know, it's 65 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: almost like saying the stormy Daniels alleged affair trial. Well, 66 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: hold on a second. An affair not the you know, 67 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: it's not a good thing, but an affair is not illegal. 68 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: So it's not an affair trial. It's not a hush 69 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: money trial. It is a business records trial. And even 70 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: when people say it was it's about a campaign finance violation. 71 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: The campaign finance violation component of it is assumed right. 72 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: The falsification of the business record allegedly occurred so that 73 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: it wouldn't get into the realm of a reportable campaign 74 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: finance issue. And therefore there's a broader scheme here, which 75 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: is how he turns it into a felony, and that 76 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: this is legal alchemy. This is turning a nothing burger 77 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: into a nothing burger with cheese. And we are seeing 78 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: this all all unfold before our very eyes in a 79 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: way that once again I think Democrats you're starting they're 80 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: starting to be concerned about the outcome here. You're seeing 81 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: some of the legal analysts. There are legal analysts who 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: go on MSNBC, for example, whose only goal is to 83 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: say whatever they think the brainwash lib audience wants. There 84 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: are some who want to do that, but also don't 85 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: want to look like total jackasses and say things that 86 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: make a fool of them when the facts actually come out. 87 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: There aren't many of them, but there are a few. 88 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: You've already started to see them. I think Clay Hedging 89 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: a little bit saying, Oh, I wish this was really 90 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: about the January sixth case and not this. Oh, hold 91 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: on a second, I thought that Alvin Bragg was, you know, 92 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: the new sheriff in town to get justice. Uh, this 93 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: is slowly. I wouldn't say it's falling apart, but there 94 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: are there are cracks in the wall here. Something's happening. 95 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: And remember the only reason this is not a misdemeanor 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: is because they're claiming that there was a second crime 97 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: that was committed while not necessarily really claiming and proving 98 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: the second crime, which feels to me like legally untenable terrain, 99 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: which is why I said yesterday, I think this is 100 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: going to get tossed. And here's the other thing that 101 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: I think is well. Well, first of all, let's play 102 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: that cut that Trump referenced. I believe it is cut five. 103 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: This is Attorney Michael Moore, not the filmmaker, saying that 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: proof of Trump falsifying records hasn't been accomplished yet. 105 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: Cut just about it was important because it starts to 106 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: connect some of the dots, and that is, you know, 107 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: can you actually put a pin in Donald Trump's hand? 108 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 4: Can you put a check in his hand? Under his signature? 109 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 4: But that really is not the crux of the government's case. 110 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: The case deals with heavy falsified records as it relates 111 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: to the federal election law, and so that has not 112 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: been accomplished yet. 113 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: I think that's important. Also, Bara, I might be mispronouncing 114 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: his name. Burra a longtime SDN Y prosecutor. Right, he 115 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: was high up and he. 116 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Was the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Yes, 117 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: here he is saying, you know, this is not the 118 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: crime of the century. 119 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: I think based on what happened today and how uninspiring 120 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: the cross examination was. Because the documents largely speak for themselves, 121 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: the prosecution has basically proven the basic case, which is 122 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 5: falsification of business records, which people can argue is or 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: is not the crime of the century. It's a misdemeanor. 124 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: The NewYork law recognized it as a misdemeanor, and we 125 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: can argue and see how the evidence comes in with 126 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 5: respect to the next phase, which is whether that can 127 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: be accelerated into a felony if it was done for 128 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: the purposes of concealing or furthering some other crime, an 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: election law crime or a tax crime. But the basic 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: fundamental case, the elements of which were laid out in 131 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: crystallized form today in court, I think we're made. 132 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: Out Okay, So what I would say buck is and 133 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: this is what we talked about a little bit with 134 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: Andy McCarthy. The more I read, and obviously we can't 135 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: listen to it because a lot of this is taking 136 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: place while we're on air and we're not able to 137 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: get audio. But to me, Trump has a really strong 138 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: argument here that the reason he paid Stormy Daniels was 139 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: not for election related reasons, but to try to avoid 140 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: family embarrassment. And he did that already for someone who 141 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: was a dorman claiming that he had an illegitimate child. 142 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: I think most people out there who were married, whether 143 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: it's true or not, would not want this story out there. 144 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 145 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: But I also think we shouldn't lose sight of the 146 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: fact that prosecutorial discretion is a very powerful tool and 147 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: it should have been used here with all the facts 148 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: of the case presented to do exactly what the federal 149 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: government did, which is say, there's nothing to do here, 150 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here, there's no image, there's no crime, 151 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: there's no harm, there's no loss, and there's no argument otherwise. 152 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, this whole thing is an absurdity. 153 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: And I do think we're at the place now, we're 154 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: the same way that we to just keep it honest 155 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and keep it real. Here. You know, we've wour gamed 156 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: what happens if he's found guilty. Will they send him 157 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: to prison, will they put him under house arrest? And 158 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: we've talked this through and we don't have the answers, 159 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: but we're looking at what the possible pathways are, what 160 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the outcomes are here. I think we should also start 161 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: to think about what happens if they actually get a 162 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: not guilty verdict? Oh yeah, And what does that do 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: to the other prosecutions, which are clearly political? What does 164 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: that do to the meaning of art? You mean not 165 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: guilty or you mean that it is just a mistrial, 166 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: like I, oh, not guilty? 167 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: If they got it not guilty verdict? If Trump won 168 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: this trial, twelve jurors said he didn't do this. I mean, 169 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I think there's still is he row percent chance of that? 170 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Because I think zero percent, yeah, and I'm not I 171 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't even say there's a zero percent chance that I 172 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow. So I think zero percent is a 173 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: little too strong. 174 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: There's there is no way twelve New York City jurors, 175 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: it's possible to see a jury that doesn't hate Trump. 176 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: One of I say he's guilty. I think what we 177 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: have seen, Yeah, but we've seen how this plays out 178 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: if one person says he's guilty and everyone else is like, 179 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: this is a sham, this is a scam. Look, I 180 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: think this is a one in ten shot. I'm not 181 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: trying to get too crazy. Okay, what could be like 182 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty thousand? No, I think, yes, it's one zero, It 183 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: rounds down to zero. This is even if they hate Trump. 184 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: People who are you know they're showing up to these 185 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: core proceedings. There's you are way too optimistic all of 186 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: a sudden for that. I think I think it's ninety 187 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: percent that Trump is going to get convicted. And do 188 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: you think I'm too optimistic? I'm just saying no, I 189 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: used to be ninety nine, Okay, I used to be 190 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: ninety nine perio. 191 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: I would make say, I think there's a twenty five 192 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: percent chance all twelve won't say guilty, but for all 193 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: twelve to say not guilty, I think is around down 194 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: to zero, like one in twenty thousand or something like that. 195 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: Now I think there's a twenty five percent chance ish 196 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: maybe even higher, that there's at least one journey who 197 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: will refuse to say he's guilty. 198 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this. I mean, I saw what 199 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: was going on in the States with Colorado and Maine, 200 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: and my inclination was so do Mayor and Catanji Brown 201 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Jackson are the most left wing and clearly politicized jurists 202 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: who have ever sat on the Supreme Court. And even 203 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: they said, guys, this is too gross. You can't do 204 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: this because of what it does to the system, a 205 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: system that even the craziest leftists want to yes corrupt 206 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: but use for their own purposes down the line. This 207 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: trial is such a joke that I do think the 208 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: outlier possibilities need to be considered. I'm not betting you 209 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: a steak on this one because I just like collecting 210 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: steaks from you. I don't like it to go the 211 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: other way Trump, I'm merely saying, guilty verdict. It would 212 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: they would, it would, I would there be glorious. I 213 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: don't even know what they would do on MSNBC. I 214 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: think they might just in the network effectively. I mean, 215 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: a hung jury would be is a win. It's a 216 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: win for sure, and it's pretty darn close, uh in 217 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: terms of the effect. I don't think the effect afterwards 218 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: of a not guilty versus a hung jury matters to 219 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Trump all that much under the circumstances. But I'm just 220 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: saying this is it's so weak. And now we're now 221 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: we're not able to see the court proceedings, so everything 222 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: is what's being reported on. But this, this is the 223 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: honestly the dumbest criminal trial I have ever heard of 224 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: in my life. I've never heard of someone being prosecuted 225 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: for a felony for less than Donald Trump is right now. 226 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: I cannot And I was in counter terrorism cases where 227 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: people lied to the FEDS about things and they got 228 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: jammed up, and people did financial structuring and they got 229 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: jammed up, and you know, I've seen some stuff that's 230 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: pretty borderline. This is the most absurd felony prosecution of 231 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: anyone that I can think of, and they're doing it 232 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: to a leading presidential candidate in the election year. It's 233 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: so gross that you have to think that there are 234 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: some possibilities here that people wake up. It's so wrong 235 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: that I think you have to leave open that chance. 236 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: But again, the odds are with you. But then again, 237 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: how did your horse do there, mister odds guy? Horse 238 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: lost by like a head. 239 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: I mean it was a three way tie and it 240 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: was a ten to one payout that I almost hit on. 241 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: So carry had some had some good success. I think 242 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: she won the most, went three for three on bat 243 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: out at the Kentucky Derby, So I should I should 244 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: just let her run the stock portfolio. Anyway, we'll see. 245 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls too. And by the way, 246 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: our good friend Christy Nome went on with our good 247 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: friend Jesse Waters last night. I really think that she's 248 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: trying to light herself on fire at this point. I 249 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: watched the interview live and I just thought to myself, 250 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: does her staff hater? 251 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: What is going on here? 252 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: We'll have some more fun ridiculously with that as well. 253 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: But I want to tell you I was just out 254 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: in Seattle and I spoke at Hillsdale's big event out 255 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: there and I sat next to doctor Larry Arne, who 256 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: runs Hillsdale, and I got to tell you, as the 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: father of three kids, I thought to myself, I would 258 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: be ecstatic if one of my boys ended up going 259 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: to Hillsdale College, because you know what they do. 260 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: They do something radical. 261 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: They actually teach them and give them an education, hold 262 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: them accountable, make them work. 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May weave yes, sir. 278 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: We're going to talk at some point about the situation overseas. 279 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Israeli forces have entered Rafa, the last holdout of Hamas resistance, 280 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: also a concentration point of Palestinians who have been forced 281 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: south during the operation. So we'll discuss that. Latest polling 282 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: out of five point thirty eight Trump Biden RFK very 283 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: interesting and also some economic news in general. I think 284 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: people are seeing more and more that the economy is 285 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: weak and there are real problems that could despite the 286 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: intentions of the Bide administration unfold. You know, Clay, I 287 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: saw the meaning that they want to try to hide 288 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: all this stuff. This is getting shared right now. It's 289 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: via Bloomberg. Forty three percent of small businesses have been 290 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: unable to pay their rent in full recently due to 291 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: economic headwinds. That is the highest rent delinquency since March 292 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one. Something is going on right now. 293 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if just the credit is drying up. 294 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: People are running out of you know, savings, whether in 295 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: business or personal accounts, but there's some rough seas ahead. 296 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: I think. 297 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: Being a business owner who doesn't know if they can 298 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: make payroll is one of the most stressful things that 299 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: can exist in American life outside of health related concerns. 300 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: And so the fact I saw this same headline, the 301 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: fact that so many small business owners, many of whom 302 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: are listening to this show right now, are feeling that 303 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: is a testament to the ultimate lie that has been 304 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: told to all of us, which is and they've abandoned 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: it to a large extent, which is Bidenomics as somehow 306 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: as success. 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Our good 333 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: friend Christy Nome continues to do all of these interviews 334 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: all over media. 335 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: And last night I was watching Jesse Waters and I 336 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: saw Christy Nome coming on, and I thought to myself, 337 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: surely they have come up with a new strategy on 338 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: the Kim Jong Oon story, since they had to alter 339 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: the autobiography already and it is not going well for her. 340 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: We've got a couple of different cuts. I want to 341 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: play this one. 342 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know if her staff hates her. 343 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know who is advising her. This is one 344 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: of the why I blame the advisors. She's the one 345 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: who wants to be vice president. She's the one who's 346 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: making these decisions. She's going on to you. No advisor 347 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: could ever convince you to look like such a clown 348 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: on TV. You know what I'm saying, Like, well, some 349 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: people would say, I look, I can cloud on TV 350 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: all the time. But yes, it's at least of my 351 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: own choice. 352 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: Wampa. But here, I don't think I've ever looked this dumb. 353 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: Here is Jesse Waters asking, hey, so super nice about it? 354 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: By totally, he's in studio. I mean she went up 355 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: to Fox. She's on sixth Avenue in the twelve eleven 356 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: building there where you've done a bunch of hits. I've 357 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: done a bunch of hits. Sitting alongside of Jesse Waters, 358 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: here's cut seven, when he asked her about it. 359 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: They're also attacking you. I guess you said you met 360 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Kim Jung un. 361 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 6: Did you meet him? 362 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 7: I've been to the DMZ, I've been to North Korea. 363 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 8: You know, people, I don't talk about my conversations with 364 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 8: world leaders, and so when I looked at the book 365 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 8: and I saw that excerpt, I decided. 366 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 7: To make the change to the content of the book. 367 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 7: And that's been done. 368 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: So you didn't have a conversation with Kim when you 369 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: were at the dm. 370 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 8: I don't have conversations about my conversations with world leaders. 371 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 8: I've been working on policy for thirty years, Jesse. And 372 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 8: that's what most people don't remember about me is I'm old. 373 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 5: Mom. 374 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 7: I'm a grandma. I'm not grand baby. 375 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: So maybe you did have a conversation, but you don't 376 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: want to talk. 377 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 8: I will not talk about my personal conversations with any 378 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 8: world leaders. 379 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 7: It just won't and I'm not going to do it. 380 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: She did not. She did not have a personal conversation. 381 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: Just so everyone is she'll be in the book, like, 382 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: why would you take it out of the book if 383 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: it were actually true? 384 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: Obviously, so she did not. Look I I'm torn here 385 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: one I honestly, I kind of want to get into 386 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: the economy and Trump trial and Israel and all these 387 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: other things. So I don't want to, you know, because 388 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: you can get a little fired up about this, But 389 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: mostly it's because I just hope that everyone really understands 390 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: when someone shows you how they operate and who they are, 391 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: you got to believe them. And I'm torn because on 392 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: the one hand, this feels a bit like the part 393 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: of an MMA or a boxing match where someone has 394 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: gotten up off the canvas, but they're they're kind of throwing, 395 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: like like you can tell they're unsteady on their feet 396 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: and they're flailing, and you feel like it will be 397 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: unsporting to just, yeah and maybeful to completely lay them out. 398 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: That's where she is now in this process. So on 399 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: the one hand, I feel a little bit. But on 400 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: the other hand, she's insulting everyone's intelligence and doing so 401 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: in a way that's both condescending and for any going 402 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: to say, why are you guys talking about it? I 403 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know why is it? The main the first guest 404 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: on Fox News last night, kind of a big deal 405 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: when a vice president to be as many people about 406 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: a third of the country thought. 407 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: She was not. 408 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Just make sure she's not going to be vice president, 409 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: but there is no national level political future for her, 410 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and she's entirely unrepentent about all of this. People make mistakes. Clay. 411 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Her thing is, I'm caught in a lie. I'm going 412 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: to attack. I'm going to say you don't understand. I'm 413 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: going to pretend that I'm smarter than the people that 414 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: have caught me in the lie. She lied about North Korea. 415 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: If anyone wants to challenge that, call in and we 416 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: could explain to you. She lied about meeting Kim Jong un. 417 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: Now you could say that doesn't matter. Why is she 418 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: going on Fox News and lying about it? Again? This 419 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: is weird. 420 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: It's weird or weird behavior. Have you ever been on 421 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: with Stuart Varney on Fox Business, Varnie, Yeah, of course. 422 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: He is one of the nicest people in all of TV. 423 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: I would I'm trying to think it would be like 424 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: getting in a fistfight with Regis Philbin if for people 425 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: out there who remember regions like you really don't. 426 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: Want to drop kick mister Rogers, you know what I'm saying. 427 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: She went on this is I haven't even heard it. 428 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see this went on his show too. 429 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: She went on with Stuart Varney and evidently lost it 430 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: on Fox Business. This is our staff grabbed this. This 431 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: is South Dakota Governor Christy Nome continuing to light herself 432 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: on fire. Somehow got into it with Stuart Varney again. 433 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: If you don't know who Stuart Varney is, he's fabulous 434 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: Fox Business host. This would be like getting into a 435 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: cage match with with back in the day, Regis Philbin 436 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: like one of the nicest guys on TV. 437 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Here's cut twenty seven. 438 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 6: Do you still think that you are in line to 439 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 6: be Trump's vice president? 440 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 8: It's up to Donald Trump. He's the only person who 441 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 8: will decide. This true, He's the only person who will decide. 442 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 7: And I suppose yes. I just speak to him. 443 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 6: May I ask what you said to you about being well? 444 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 8: I never tell anybody my personal conversations with I talked 445 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 8: to President Trump all the time about the dogs, about 446 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 8: a lot of things. And right now I tell you what. 447 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 8: He is being persecuted in a political hunt, which hunt 448 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 8: in this court case. So I'm proud of him about 449 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 8: how tough he is and how well he is doing. 450 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 8: Did you bring up yes enough, Steward. The interview is ridiculous. 451 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 8: What you were doing right now, so you need to stop. 452 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 6: It is okay, it is. 453 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 8: Let's talk about some real topics that Americans care about. 454 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: Afraid around of time. 455 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 7: Oh well, of course we are. 456 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: We do. 457 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 6: Thank you for being with us. I know I pressed hard, 458 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 6: but that's what people are talking about to this day. 459 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. You know, this is what she does. 460 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: She goes on, she lies, people push her, and then 461 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: she gets nasty. She's done in other places too, She 462 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: gets nasty and then people back her up. Some people. 463 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: I'd say, we're ten to one right now for calls 464 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: and people saying, yeah, no, she's a joke, she's done, 465 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: But you know, one out of ten are saying, why 466 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: does it matter? Why do we turned on her side? 467 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, can I just were where were the white 468 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: we tear down our own side people? When Kevin McCarthy 469 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: was getting his butt kicked out of the speaker chair 470 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: after just getting it back? Where were those voices? You know, 471 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: we get some of these callers, Oh, you're tearing down Republicans. 472 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Mitt Romney voted to convict Donald Trump in 473 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: the Senate. Should we not criticize that because oh, why 474 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: are you tearing down Republicans. That is a dumb talking point. 475 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: If you use that enough, you get nowhere in politics. 476 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: We have primaries, we have presidential picks for cabinet and 477 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: vice president. We're gonna talk about these things within the family. 478 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, tearing down people gratuitously 479 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: or nastily is one thing. She has created this entire 480 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: mailstrom herself. She will not stop. She has not apologized. 481 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: Has anyone heard her say, Guys, I'm sorry I made 482 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: some errors of judgment here, but I've done a great 483 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: job for South Dakotas, I'll do a great job for you. 484 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: I've learned in this process. And the journalists and the 485 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: commentators who have been pushing on this, they're asking fair questions. 486 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: We should know what my judgment is, we should know 487 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: what my truthfulness is. I take full responsibility, and I 488 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: think Donald Trump sees me for who I am and 489 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: going forward, I'd be a great vice president. If she 490 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: said that, this whole thing goes away, and I'm like, wow, 491 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: maybe she has grown, Maybe she has learned. No, she 492 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: goes on Varney's show and kicks British mister Rogers in 493 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: the shins. British mister Rodgers a great example. 494 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: I would also say this to people like we had 495 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: a call her and finished off yesterday's show. And by 496 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: the way, you're welcome to call in and agree or 497 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: disagree with anything we say on the show. First Amendment 498 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: should be alive and well in this country. We're not MSNBC. 499 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: But you don't want I don't think to go somewhere 500 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: where it is state sponsored radio. We're not gonna be Pravda. 501 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: I want Donald Trump to win. If Donald Trump says 502 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: something stupid and we think it hurts his chances to win, 503 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: we should be talking about it in a way that 504 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: would make it more likely for him to win. 505 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: We're not twenty twenty two perfect exam. After twenty twenty two, 506 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: we came on here and all we do we're sitting 507 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: around reading about this, texting about this, talking to all 508 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: the sources that we have in media and politics, and 509 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: we do have pretty darn good access. And thank you 510 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh for creating this massive battleship for freedom in 511 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: America that is this radio program. But we said, look, guys, 512 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: we gotta do ballot harvesting, okay, and Trump at that 513 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: point was not on board with it. He was saying no, no, 514 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, I don't like it or whatever, and we 515 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: said we got to do ballot harvesting, and other people 516 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: we know said, look, I think he's wrong with that. 517 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: And guess what. Trump came around and said, you know what, 518 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: We've got to do beautiful ballot harvesting. He came around. 519 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: He's on board, he gets it, he wants to win. 520 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: We got to be able to have those conversations among 521 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: the family. We got to be able to speak the 522 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: truth about these things, or else what are we really doing? 523 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: Like we're just you know, you can, on the one hand, 524 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: criticize the Republican Unit Party and you know, Mitch McConnell 525 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and all and the swamp and say, how dare you 526 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: criticize a Republican because it's a Republican that you've backed 527 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: in the past. That doesn't work. 528 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: I agree, And I would even take it in the 529 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: context of sports, somebody plays crappy, even if you root 530 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: for the team, you got to call out the quarterback 531 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: of the coach for the decisions that were made. And 532 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: right now, Christino was the favorite to be a heartbeat 533 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: away from the presidency if Donald Trump had been elected 534 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: based on the last week. 535 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Do any of you feel comfortable. 536 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable if Kamala were president of the 537 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: United States, if something happened to Biden. I certainly don't 538 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: want Biden to win reelection. But this is why the 539 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: VP choice matters. Look, you and I may not agree 540 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: with everything. 541 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: JD. 542 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: Van says, we may not agree with everything. Tim Scott says, 543 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: we may not agree with any of the guys who 544 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: were all in the mix. Look, that's fine, that's healthy, 545 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: But I don't question their ability, their fundamental judgment and 546 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: fundamental character. When you make a public mistake and instead 547 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: of owning it, you just go and attack people, not 548 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: in the left wing media, but in Fox News, on 549 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: talk radio in other places, that shows a lack of 550 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: character because it shows you won't even take accountability. It 551 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: would be like if the coach at halftime was talking 552 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: to his team and you know, all of a sudden, 553 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: you're like, well, sir, you can't give us any criticism 554 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: because you're tearing us down. 555 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: It's like, well, hold on a second. This is what 556 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do. We're supposed to have these conversations 557 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: among ourselves. We're supposed to know whether someone is carrying 558 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: their weight or not. And if someone shows up drunk 559 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: to practice, that's a problem, even if they're on your team, 560 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: especially if you've ever and I get frustrated by this. 561 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: You ever hear a coach get interviewed after his team 562 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: gets crushed by the team that has the rights to that, 563 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: and they're super easy going on him and they don't 564 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: ask any difficult questions. You're fired up. You should be 565 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: fired up. Nobody did this to Christy. No, she created 566 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: this entire mess for herself and keeps digging a bigger 567 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: hole because of her incompetence. 568 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: We talked about the dog thing, and and you know, 569 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: there was more the dog lovers out there were very 570 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: upset by this. People that come from certain more rural backgrounds, 571 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: on the ranch or whatever were sometimes a little more 572 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: okay with it, sometimes even the supportive of it. Although 573 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: I could present to you she lied about that too, 574 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Just so everyone's all clear. She just changed that story too, 575 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: so everyone's clear. I actually heard the audiobook narration of it. 576 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: She was angry at the dog for being bad at hunting. 577 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: The whole it was a danger to my kids thing 578 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: after the fact, But that's what I'm saying. The story 579 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: just keeps changing instead of saying I made a mistake. 580 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: And now you're saying, well, why are you talking about 581 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: it today? I don't know. Why is Fox News leading 582 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: with the last night? She keeps getting what you're blaming 583 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: if you blame us for talking about this, aren't there 584 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: more important things than her going on TV at this 585 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: moment in an election cycle that she's not even in 586 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: to try to clean up her mess. She's forcing herself 587 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: into the news cycle and keeps on making it worse, 588 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: keeps digging. And so after the dog thing, we weren't 589 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: going to talk about it again. And as I said, 590 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: if she had come forward and said I take full responsibility, 591 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: that was not the right way to put it forward. 592 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: Anybody would be crying their eyes out if they had 593 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: to shoot their own dog because of, you know, whatever, 594 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: these things that she was saying. I would have said, 595 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: all right, fine, but that's not her approach. And you know, 596 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: one thing is whether it's about will will it change 597 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: of the speaker of the House? Fix fix everything? 598 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: Clay. 599 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: Some people wanted to hear that, some of the base 600 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: wanted to hear it. We said no, and it didn't. Obviously, 601 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: Now Marjorie Taylor Green's backed off getting rid of the 602 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: new guy Johnson. I mean, you know, this is a mess. 603 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: But we speak the truth as we see it always 604 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: and that comes from a respect for everyone who gives 605 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: us the time to listen. We speak to everyone as 606 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: peers and as fellow patriots and as people who love 607 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: this country. There is no condescension. We're all missed together. 608 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: We're all a team. Clay and I talk, You listen, 609 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: but some of you call in an email. You're all 610 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: a part of it too. We're all a team in this. 611 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: When you have a governor of any state going on 612 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: TV and you know, getting aggressive, lying to people's faces, 613 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: making it look making everyone look foolish, that bother me, 614 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: that's all. That's fundamentally that That's where I am with 615 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: this now. It's just so obvious and I'm happy to 616 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: never talk about it again. But I'm not going to 617 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: take any Oh but what you you know, maybe she 618 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: did meet with Kim Jong Unn. No she didn't. She 619 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: is lying. Okay, we operate in reality here, and the 620 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: fact that she's in a like got in a huff 621 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: with Stuart Varney British mister Rogers is a great way 622 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: of describing it thank you is I mean, she's losing it. 623 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: But I get I do get the frustration here because 624 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, we have the whole horrible Biden economy and 625 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Bidenomics, and we have the situation, 626 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: we have all these big things going on, but the 627 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: news cycle is being focused on that has been focused 628 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: on this issue, not by us. And we will move 629 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: on to other things, assuming that we don't have more 630 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: primetime interviews where the Republican base is being lied to 631 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: by somebody who refuses to take accountability and refuses to 632 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: speak the truth. And it is that simple. So uh 633 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: jd vanced, Tim Scott, Tulsi Gabbard on I mean people, 634 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: If anything, I'm probably too pro Tolsi like, we have 635 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: so many people on the show that we're trying to 636 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: always elevate show in the best possible light because we're 637 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: all on the same team. There are limits to this, though, right, 638 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: There are limits to oh well, you know, like I said, 639 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: if someone shows up dunk drunk to practice on the 640 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: football team, it's not oh, we're all in this together. 641 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: It's there's got to be accountability. Argue with us if 642 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: you want eight hundred two two eight two. We love you. 643 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: Agree or disagree, it's fine. Owning a home is fantastic 644 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: most of the time, but the chores and maintenance that 645 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: come with it, they can be a pain. At the 646 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: top of that list for many is cleaning out the gutters. 647 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: Between getting up on the ladder and not falling off 648 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: and pulling out all the muck. It's right up there 649 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: with Micro's dirty jobs sometimes. But we've got a permanent 650 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: solution for you. With leaf Filter, America's number one gutter protection. 651 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Right now, you can save twenty percent off your entire purchase, 652 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: or thirty percent if you qualify for their Military or 653 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: Senior Citizen discount at leiffilter dot com slash buck. Look, claud, 654 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: gutters aren't just a pain. They can cause real problems 655 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: water damage, and yes, there are store bought solutions, but 656 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: that's not going to give you the long term, clear, 657 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: enduring solution you need. Protect your home and never clean 658 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: out gutters again. With lee Filter. Schedule your free inspection 659 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: and get twenty percent off your entire purchase at Leeffilter 660 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck, plus an additional ten percent off 661 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: with the Senior or Military discount. That's Leaffilter dot com, 662 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: slash Buck, l EA f filter dot com, slash Bucks 663 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: either representative for warranty details, promotion of twenty percent off 664 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: plus a ten percent senior or military discount with one 665 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: discount per household. We are enjoying. Wait, who do we 666 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: have a guest? 667 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 2: Do we? 668 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Ryan Gurdusky third hour talking about the sun Belt versus 669 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: the rest Belt in the election and how those numbers 670 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: are going to be determining. I think where where all 671 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: of this goes, so that's important. We've also got more 672 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: on the campus and UNC protest. But I will say 673 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: my favorite, uh, my favorite thing that we've seen so 674 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: for where did it go? Clay? Here? Wait here it 675 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: is vip email. This is my favorite vip email of 676 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: the day. I'll just I'll take my lumps on this 677 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: one from Lisa. Buck was just giving Clay a hard 678 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: time regarding his Kentucky Derby pick that almost won the race. 679 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Nothing was said about Buck's pick fierceness, the favorite that 680 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: finished fifteen in the field of twenty. Great point. Okay, okay, 681 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: someone you know Lisa calling in the close air support 682 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: for Clay there and I am obliterated. That is fair, 683 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: my guy, forever Young came within. 684 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the closest end of the race since 685 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven to have three different horses basically head 686 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: to head. Also, did you see this buck most watched 687 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby since. 688 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty nine. 689 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: I think I think that this is kind of the story. Optimistically, 690 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: I think there is a desperate craving out there in 691 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: America for people to come together and have fun. And 692 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if you watched the Tom Brady Roast, 693 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be optimistic here. Think you think that 694 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Tom Brady Roast is bringing together America if you go 695 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: watch the jokes on that this was an utter evisceration 696 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: of PC culture, of woke culture. I think it was 697 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: a significant signpost. I think people want to be happy 698 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 2: and like America. Again. 699 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the campus protest next, so 700 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk to that. Maybe not yet,