1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Episode one seven of the Bobby Cast. This 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: one's fun for me at a little story. I went 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: to watch the Razorbacks play this weekend Arkansas, dude, and 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: I love the Razorbacks probably more than I love anything 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: else in my life now that I think about it, Like, 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: where would I rank things that I love in my life? Yeah, 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: the new Dog isn't up there yet, No, not no, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Stanley is not up there yet. He's maybe top six, 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: top six, top five. Yeah, I just we haven't spent 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: up toime. We've spent another four months. It's feel surprising. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: The Razorbacks I think are number one. Man like it 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: just with love mhm, even like certain bands usually John Mayer, 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Garth Brooks, I feel like among favorite things. But I'm 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: saying the Arkansas or Backs are better and bigger than that. 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: I spent my whole life invested in them. I I 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: can't think of anything like if I were to go 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: to things that I love my number one thing in 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: life because I'm not married, I have a girlfriend, no kids. 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: More than yeah, it's got it's gotta be it. Maybe 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: I love performing, I love doing the radio show. I 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: think Arkansas is up there. So my point is I 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: went to a game Love Arkansas, and uh, dude picks 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: me up. Nice guy, a real nice guy, and we 24 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: go and whatever, and I'll tell the story. I look 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: it up. It's the kid from the blind Side, the 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: real life kid the movie The blind Side. And he 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: didn't play himself in the movie, but the kid in 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the movie played him, the real life kid from the 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: movie The Kid. So we'll talk to s J. Coming 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: up in just a few minutes. That's his name, s J. Twoey, 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: which is pretty amazing. I didn't realize that. I went 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: on the air yesterday morning. I was like, holy crap. 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring him on. By the way, 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: if you're waiting, a lot of people are for the 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Luke Combs Bobby cast. We had to move that back 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Luke hit me up and was like, yoh, yes, 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: something came up. He actually just texted me again and 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: it was like, a, uh, we're gonna get that. You're 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna reschedule the Luke Holmebs one, so that one's coming 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: up soon. Um, had to move that back. And who 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: else do we have on the docket? We have anything 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: lined up right now? Crow. We are ye nice that 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: would be a cool one. And for those at home 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: that no the inner workings of the radio show, you 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: will hear a segment where we're talking about Cheryl Crow, 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: um Monday or Tuesday on the radio show, and I'm like, 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: we gotta get Ryl Crow. But what happens is whenever 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm out of town, um, I'll do the show from 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Like I'll be in Los Angeles next week, right, yeah, 50 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm all over New York, New York. I'll be all over. 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: And so what we do is we'll we'll record four 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: or five segments, most of the tell me something goods um. 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: If there's a dance party, we'll record that because I 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: can't do that from another another town. And then we'll 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: record a couple of segments that are called evergreens that 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: we can air at one of those dates. And we 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: did a Sheryl Crow segment that's gonna air next week, 58 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, we gotta get her on the 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. So Mike, you've already So when people hear 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: that on the radio show, don't be weirded out. Like 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: we have to kind of get a little bit of 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: the show ready just in case we get to another 63 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: studio and it falls through like that. The technology isn't working. 64 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: But how does that? How's that going to come about? Already? 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Hit him up? Who um your label? Yeah? And they 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: work with um getting her dates set up. I got 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: a couple going around and we'll get her on. Man, 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: can we do in a nine part series? I love 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: the whole month. Let's just spend an hour on each 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: song from two Tonight Music Club and then work our 71 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: way up to today. You got any record called Threads out? 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: That's real good? Um, so that's pretty cool. So Cheryl 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Crowe Um and Luke Combs, and you appreciated by listening 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: and sharing this with her friends? I saw did we 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: talk about Lizzo yet? Or do we talk about off 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: the off the mic? Off the mic? Okay? So this 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: song here from Lizzo went number one on the Billboard 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: one D. This is truth her even when I'm crying crazy. 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I read that it came out in two thousand seventeen. 80 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: It took that long for that song to grow. And 81 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I don't mean that long in a bad way like 82 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: grassroots almost, because I saw that song starting to be 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: pasted on the Instagram stories a year ago, and usually 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: it's Morgan number two Instagram stories where I catched that 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: early female stuff that is who I saw the Lizzo 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: stuff from first. Yeah, So do you have the story 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: about that song and when it came out, because it's 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: really it is amazing that a song was released over 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: two years ago or two years ago and then just 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: now is able to hit the top of the Billboard 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: Hot one chart because the last a couple of songs 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: to do it, We're Old Town roade for many many 93 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: weeks and then Billy Eilish took it. After she sat 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: at number two forever. We did a whole podcast, Good 95 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Hiccups about songs that have peaked at number two, which 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: she finally broke out of that hit number one, and 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: then Lizzo hit So only three songs in the past 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: like four months basically it hit number one. What does 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: it say over there about Lizzo because that's a long 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: time and I wonder if she was even on a label, 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: a major label then, or if she put the song 102 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: out and they were like the projects, good, we'll buy it, 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: but on the label like anyway, I saw and thought 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: it was um pretty nutty. Well. Also inside of this podcast, 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: talked to Kelly Henderson from the Velvet's Edge podcast. Um, 106 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: mostly she went out to Dirk's Dirk Spentley's festival Seven 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: Peaks Music Festival, and that looked like mayhem out there. 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: It looked like a lot of fun. And I talked 109 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: to her about that and we'll see what's up. But um, 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: what it was the story saying when she did put 111 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: it out like on her own, yeah, and then it 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: just had a major booth. I think it was on 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a it was on a Netflix movie first when it 114 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, but was she an independent artist? Yeah, 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: she was, and so a label acquired her music and 116 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: then pushed it. That's great. Yeah, there different songs, pretty cool. 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: You know what sounds good is the post Malone circles. 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is album is out Friday? That was that, right? Yeah, 119 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that the whole album. Whole album. He 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: puts them out pretty quick. I mean the last record 121 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: had like seventy three songs on it and like not 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: literally but it was like probably six. Yeah, a lot. 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: But the last one came out like a year and 124 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: a half ago and then he literally finished it like 125 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: a month ago. He like goes into like marathon sessions 126 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: and recording, does all the songs. Puts it out, play 127 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: some of the circles. This is all like real instruments. 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Who I read, Yeah, not a lot of like track machines, 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: drum machines. So post Malone put on a new song. 130 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: We have a s tweek coming up in a second, 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: by the way, Like he's for sure I could put 132 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: out a country song. Yeah, and I hear more every 133 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: time and let everybody fight over this country or not, 134 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: and then we just play and be like who cares? 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: It's good, you know, especially when you watch them play too, 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Like he just grabs a guitar and plays and he 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: looks like a country hard It's amazing. Yeah. Alright, So 138 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: I think that's all all we have to say for now. 139 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to get to this interview? And I 140 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: just say, appreciate everybody for hanging out. And we talked 141 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: about this on the show a little bit this morning, 142 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: but the first time we talked to him. Here is 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: my conversation coming up with s J. Twoey. Hello, Hey, gotcha? 144 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: There he is? You got me? That's JA can hear me? 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I can hear you? All right? Cool? Okay, so um 146 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: we're we're rolling now, So anything you say will be 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: held against you for sure. Uh. Just to get everybody 148 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: heads up on what happened is I had texted Coach Morris, 149 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the head coach at the University of Arkansas, a couple 150 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: of days before the game, and he's like, hey, I'm 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: have my guy s J can pick you up. I 152 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: don't think anything about it. I think, well, those are 153 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: two odd initials to be next to each other, the 154 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: little of S and J. I've never met another s J. 155 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, cool, this dude hits. He's like, right, 156 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: pick you up. He finds me. We're driving. Actually, I 157 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: don't know anything about I mean, I didn't know anything about. 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even put it together until later, um in 159 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the evening, and I'm asking s J making small talk 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: about you know, where he played ball because you look 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: like a ball player, Like, what's how big are you? 162 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: S J? Um? How big of mine? Now? How big 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: that I used to be? You're pretty much on slim 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: probably got six ft. Okay, so you could tell Mike 165 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: that he played ball at some point. And I say, hey, maybe, 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: I said where did you play ball? And you played 167 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: four years of college basketball? Right? Yeah? Have to play 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: called basketball small school and Baltmore, Maryland called Loyola Maryland. Um, 169 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: you know every time you stay loyal, SOE not not 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: that one. So I was out in uh in Maryland 171 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: four years there and then I played one year football 172 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: down for coach Morris smu. So I say, why did 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: you live in Baltimore? And your answer to me was, uh, 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: that I had a road that played from football affair 175 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: at the time, like the area I think was something 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: I might have I've paddled out, don't even know. And 177 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: so annoying that that SJ is like not talk, I talk. 178 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I text. I was like, dude, if it were me, 179 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I'd have a name tag on I'd be like I 180 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: was the kid on the blind side. And so he 181 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: totally played cool and I was like, oh, yeah, who's 182 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: your brother? And he says Michael Lore And even then 183 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think much about it. We talked about him 184 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: moving to Nashville. Michael moved to Nashville. When went about 185 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: our day and I followed s J on Instagram and 186 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: I hit it and there's a link and it says 187 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: here book s J. And I'm thinking is a model, 188 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna book s J. And he's gonna come 189 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: model for because I know girls that have that link 190 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: in their page and it's like, here's all my information 191 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: if you want to book me for me to model. 192 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I mean, that's just a good looking 193 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: do but I wouldn't say he's like a model. And 194 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: so I click it and it says uh s j 195 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Tooey who is the younger son on the blind side. 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, holy crap. So I'd go on 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: the air and I'm blown away. My I mean, it 198 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: was like explosion because you I mean, I guess at 199 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: this point in your life, I mean, do do you 200 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: bring it up? Ever? Like when does it come up 201 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: with people? Usually? Um, well, it's funny to your first point, 202 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: if I should wear a name tag. You know, we 203 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: used to go to Mice games, um in Baltimore and 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: throughout his NFL career all the time. UM, and I 205 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: was in Baltimore too, so it was the easy trip. 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: My faarers they come up and we go to the 207 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, and my mom would wear like a 208 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: bedazzled you know, Ravens Jersey seventy four, like on the 209 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: back it says, you know, like Michael Orr's mom and 210 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: like glowing clashing letters, and we'll be sitting in the 211 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: game and someone with like comfter and and say, hey, 212 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, can we take a photo like I love 213 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: your you know, family store whatever. And she was, oh 214 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: my gosh, you know, how did you know? Like I 215 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: can't leave put this together. It's so crazy. We can't 216 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: go anywhere. I'm like, no, we can literally go everywhere. Like, 217 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: no one doesn't you have got an hero that point? No, no, no, 218 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: no one noticed that, you know. That's that's what it was. 219 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: I promised. I started not trying to draw at sens 220 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: in to it, probably because of her actions, but um 221 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: hasn't come out much man, honestly, Uh, you know because 222 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: tony of the kids were recruiting now, you know, you 223 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: think about them being in high school and I'll be 224 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: talking to them and you know, whenever when the movie 225 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: came out, they were like seven years old. You know, 226 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: coaches all time. But I want out of death Jay 227 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: and the kids, like you know, I was in first grade. 228 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: It's been a while, so you know, too contents, I 229 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: guess give it away, S and J not a whole 230 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of those names. But it's not too bad, man. 231 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: I have so many questions I'm I thinking about this, 232 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: So why don't we go first with when the movie 233 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: comes out and it's a big hit. How old were 234 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: you when that happened? The movie came out when I 235 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: was a sophomore in high school, so I was, you know, 236 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: like six teams just the worst time to give someone 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe any kind of Yeah, what was that like? As 238 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: the six were you were the girls all over you? No, 239 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: it was an overweight you know fact you have was 240 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: way too long in here. So, um, it's funny. I 241 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't really realize. I think I kind of 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: grew up, um uh at that point, not really knowing 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: how big story was until I kind of got out 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: of Memphist and you go, wait, people actually know about 245 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: this thing elsewhere. So it wasn't too bad. Man. I 246 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of crap and we're 247 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: playing teams in basketball or um you know that that 248 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff where uh it was I was an 249 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: easy target certainly, and it was It was also cool 250 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: to get to do some things that you know, you 251 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: know on what you have to do, but nothing nothing 252 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: too crazy. So when you're playing basketball, because like what 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: were your stats like run me your line, like senior 254 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: year in high school, what were we averaging? I's a 255 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: point guard. That's a big assist catch. I tried my 256 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: goalten years to setting a sixth record. We had a 257 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: really good player as a center. Our team that went 258 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: played at Virginia and we had a four part two. 259 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: I think I only average like maybe seven eight points, 260 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: but probably eleven or twelve assists and and three bounds 261 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: and um. You know, in high school, sadly thought about 262 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: those camps and the things you do. So I was 263 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: fortunate to perform with some of those those au deals 264 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: and and I got scholars up to you're doing double 265 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: digit assists, Like that's that's very valuable. You've got the 266 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: ball a lot. Like what does the other players say 267 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: to talk crap to the kid that's now there's a 268 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: movie based on his life. You know, it wasn't a 269 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: player as much. It was like student sections. You know, Um, 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: I would be getting more more crap. And it's funny 271 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: because we go some places and like they would say 272 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: my name and start a lot of people like cheer, 273 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: you know if people are crazy and I'm like, oh cool, 274 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Like we're this is really neat that we're in. You know, 275 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: a couple hours away, and then we played a rival 276 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: school and it was just like massive movies. You know, um, 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, I took a charge. It was you know, 278 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: like good job Sandro who get Chanted? Or like watch 279 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: your blind thought any thank you? That was coming a lot. Yeah, 280 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: that was doing a lot. We played school one time 281 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: they played the whole blind soundtrack for the warm up, 282 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: which which I don't even know they had sound I 283 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I did not know the movie had 284 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: a soundtrack until just this moment. Now I recognize all 285 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: these songs. That's like some early trolling type stuff, like 286 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: before trolling was really a thing, like they were they 287 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: were trolling you hard in the court. Yeah, that's a 288 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: cad deserved it. And did you have your names in 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: the back of your jersey's in high school or no? 290 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think we might have on 291 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: o art one up tops. I don't. I don't quite remember. Now. 292 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: I never read the book, right, I watched the movie. 293 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: But either you were in the same boat with that. 294 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: You never read the book, No, I had. I had 295 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the guy who who wrote it, Michael Lewis. He highlighted 296 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: all the parts that in my name in it and 297 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I checked those parts out. Other than that, I was 298 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: about it. Man, when you knew they were writing a 299 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: book about your family, was it like, I don't even 300 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: know what this means, what this is like, let's just 301 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: see what happened, Like, what does that thought process? I mean, 302 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like fifths or grade. There was there was 303 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: no thought pros sigre out what time recess was the 304 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: true version of it? And people think we were like, 305 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: you know, publicizing this out there, which was the farthest 306 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: thing from the truth. My dad was a pretty good 307 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: high school athlete, and my one of his classmates from 308 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: from his high school, New Orlds Newman, the gu named 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Michael Lewis Um who wrote a bunch of good books 310 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: while ours Poker, Moneyball, the Big Shore. He's written a 311 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: ton of best sellers. He was writing a book on 312 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: his high school based ball coach, a guyamed Billy Fitzgerald. 313 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: He was a great coach and my dad was a 314 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: good player for the team. He was gonna he was 315 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna come interview my dad for this book called Coach, 316 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: which is a great book. And he came to Memphis 317 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: for the interview and had they had to each other 318 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: in fifteen years and Mike is sitting on the couch 319 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: counter with me, like playing Xbox whatever, and uh, my 320 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: dad kind of finished the interview and Michael Louis says, Okay, 321 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: well I'll buy Who's a big black kid in your 322 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: in your pool room? And um as, oh, it's just 323 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, when I called the classmates of the time, 324 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: we hadn't really dopted yet. He I think he was. 325 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: I get the whole time wine confused, but um and 326 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: then he came back for the book tour maybe six 327 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: months later. I was like, okay, like, update me on 328 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: the kid, like what's he doing? And as crazy enough, 329 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: we actually adopted him and he's living here at the 330 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: whole thing, and uh he owed the New York Times 331 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: an article, um, something like that, and then he had 332 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: to do one, so can I write it on Michael 333 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: and uh, my dad just honest, that would be good 334 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: for his recruiting exposure. He was playing football and playing 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: basketball like sure like it and if Mike's okay with it, 336 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Mike was and and uh it became a New York 337 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Times article and from there it was a book. And 338 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: then when the book writes sold like don't worry, we 339 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: will never make this a movie. Ever. You know, none 340 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: of these things all my book, right, so none of 341 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: them getting made the movies. Sure enough that we got 342 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: made the movie. You know, you're an half later. So 343 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: it was kind of a quick process. And that once 344 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the train was wrong with you know, we had no control. 345 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: We didn't have to stay in the movie. They didn't 346 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: have with our opinion or that's wild. It wasn't like 347 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: your folks out going, hey this is a great story. 348 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: It was literally a guy come and to write a 349 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: story about just include your dad, not even completely unrelated. Yeah, 350 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: as absurd as but it's it was an interesting, interesting train. 351 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Talk to me for a second about Talk to me 352 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: for a second about like your family when you were 353 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: a kid, Like what they did. Everyone always saw said, 354 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I mumble and I talked about apologize. But that's kind 355 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: of the way you have to be in our family 356 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: to speak. You know, everyone's got things going on. You 357 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: have to get your words out fast. Um, And they 358 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: were right, everybody. And my mom was a and the designer, 359 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: and she was running around and and uh she got 360 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: this kind of niche market of pro athletes who was 361 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: always playing around. They creating houses, and my dad kind 362 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: of grinded up to th Taco Bell deals and he 363 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: was doing the radio um put A Grizzlies at the time, 364 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: and so he was traveling with the team and Collins 365 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: flick three sports high school, Mike play three sports high school. 366 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here in fourth grade like, hey guys, I'm here, 367 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing stuff. So, uh, but that's that's kind of 368 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: part of I think what's made me good at my 369 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: job and going forward today. That's I saw a lot 370 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: of people who were motivated growing up and who had 371 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: these goals and ambitions. And my sister um opened up 372 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: a business and she's done cool stuff. And Mike had 373 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: this long, lustrous NFL career and got a family and 374 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: and uh, my dad still selling nine months in Taco 375 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: So everyone's still doing things that that, uh they've been doing. 376 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: Your dad was the radio gap for the Memphis Grizzlies, 377 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: right yeah, for a while and THENTO the TV for 378 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: a minute, and then then now he's he's kind of 379 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: slacked off that stuff. Is that so cool as a 380 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: kid to have a parent that works for an NBA 381 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: team because you have you have access or you get 382 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: free jerseys or anything like that. It was the coolest 383 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: if you come to a main cave here and fable, 384 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: which I I hope you'll do one day when you're 385 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: back for for a many razor bad games. Um. I 386 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: have an absurd jersey collection. I have thirty forty sign 387 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: jerseys of like crazy you know, Alan iverson Grizzly like 388 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: it's a weird off jerseys and uh, you know, how 389 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: do you get these? I was going to the game 390 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: or with my dad and just buy them and yell 391 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: at the person until they were so annoyed that finally 392 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: there comes jersey. That's when I read that about your dad. 393 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: That was the thing that stood out to me was 394 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: like that as a kid, to be able to go 395 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: to NBA games and have just access, you know at 396 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: times when other people don't, that would be the coolest 397 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: thing to me. It was really fun and the Grizzies 398 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: were so fun back then. They had a great group 399 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: of god, I mean comical guys like Strom Swift and 400 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: White Chocolate j Will and I mean guys that were 401 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: funny to be around. Um, so it was pretty for granted. 402 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: So they say they're going to do a movie on 403 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: your family, Now do you go? And like do they 404 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of ask you guys any questions at all, or 405 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: do they just start fictionally building who these people are 406 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: based on what the book said. You really were, Uh 407 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: a little. I didn't get asked questions. Don't remember getting 408 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: asked questions, and so maybe maybe the rest of us 409 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: of the fan did. Um sand Her Bulleck was around 410 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: for for a while. She came for a week or 411 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: so and heard my mom did different things and she 412 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of shadowed her. Um, did you meet when she 413 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: was with your mom? Yeah? She can in my high 414 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: st Cando, Broadcrest. One day I went to high school, Um, 415 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: and I had this Bible teacher. Hopefully she doesn't looking 416 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: your show. She doesn't, I can apologize who was like 417 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: not a huge fan of line. Um, I'm sure I 418 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: was jacking whatever is again I probably deserved it, but um, 419 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: but apparently a huge fan of standard Bullocks. So all 420 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: of a sudden that day we were back on the 421 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: same page and my mom like, doesn't sign to the school, 422 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, she's she's like the roles just walks right 423 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: on that and everyone contrast to stop here, and she 424 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: just keep walking back where's that stay At the point 425 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: of the classroom, she knocks on the door, and uh, 426 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I kind of I'm like, oh my mom's that's cool 427 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: as the weird come to the door. She didn't tell 428 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: me she was coming. And I walked in the hallway 429 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: near Sanna Bola. I'm like, oh gosh, here's the lad 430 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: some speed in my school. That's cretty um and the 431 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: biopepers look angry that I've left class. Right. She walked 432 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: outside like what's going on? And like breaks down right like, 433 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, can we please take a photo? I'm like, oh, 434 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: now you want to take photos? Yeah? Now she's your 435 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: biggest fan too, that you have Sandra Bullick up there. Uh, 436 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: that was the one time I met her, and I 437 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: met her one time on on set. We actually played 438 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: a game in Atlanta for high school basketball and they 439 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: were filming in Atlanta. So that worked out work sung 440 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: by one night about and that we had zero involved in. Man, 441 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: they just said, you know, people are coping, embarrassing, too 442 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: bad and whatever. Whenever are you watch the movie back? 443 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: How did you feel about Sandra Bullock portrayal of your mom? 444 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, I tried not to watch. I haven't watched 445 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: the movie in a long time. Um, I did a 446 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: girl a couple of years ago, and I said, look, 447 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: we can watch this thing now and you can ask 448 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: all the questions and that's it. That's what last time 449 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: I've watched it. Um. But to your point, scarily pretty good. Um, 450 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: that was much accurate part of that that movie. And 451 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: I have one always asking you know, what's the similarity. 452 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm like center book in that movie as much nicer 453 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: than my mom is in real life. Better than that, 454 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: there's some some similarities for sure. You know, I bet 455 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Are you saying? Are you a single dude? Now? 456 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I am? Okay, I bet that's a thing. Right, Like, 457 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: how early whenever you're talking to a girl do you 458 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: have to bring that up? Because I felt like I 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: thought you should have told me in the first five 460 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: minutes a good die? But when do you have to 461 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: bring that? As at the first date we're like, listen, 462 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: here's the thing, or you like, guess what, here's the thing? Baby? Like, 463 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: how does that work? Definitely not the latter. Um. You know, 464 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: the kid who played in the movie Jahad is a 465 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: is a really good dude. Uh. And we talked, you 466 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: know enough for for a minute when when the movie 467 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: was coming out. Um, and he made a comment one 468 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: time on the phone or at a premiere and you like, hey, man, 469 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you like a lot of dates in 470 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: this movie. And I said, bro, anyone see this movie 471 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: and like sees you and want to date me. Then 472 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I did not want to be with that girl, like 473 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: we have some issues that we need to work out. 474 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not like, I don't think that 475 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a an early conversation start for me. But um, 476 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: they got to know the right if they go to 477 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: your instagram, because you're not gonna go out with anyone 478 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: even I'm not going to go on you one without 479 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: going to their Instagram first. And like when I went 480 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: to yours, I was like, oh he's a model, I 481 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: guess and clicked and I was like, oh he's a 482 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: kid from the blindside, Like they have to do they Okay, 483 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: let me ask this. Do you think they ever don't 484 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: bring it up even though they know, and they play 485 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: like they don't know because they're playing cool. Probably they 486 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: probably say something of me and he's trying to play 487 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: cool and not bringing up I don't know. I uh. 488 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: I have had a couple of girls like oh, you 489 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: must have a really good football coach and like, no, 490 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: that's not the I promise that's not the case. Why 491 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: the thing, so, um, first date? That do you bring 492 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: it up? Is that a conversation first date? It's not 493 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: okay unless that would thing that got me on the date. Yeah, 494 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: I doubt that was the case, and I wouldn't be 495 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: hating on that if that's what got you on the 496 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: date either. No, hey, whatsoever? Oh okay. The portrayal of 497 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: you in the movie. How did you feel about that? Um? Yeah, 498 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean I was you asked someone when they were 499 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: in fourth or fifth grade to be broadcast? I don't 500 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: I guess that was probably that annoying or not that 501 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: JA was an annoying. Yeah, but I probably a pre 502 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: obnoxious character, So I'm sure I was that bad. My 503 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: friends tell me that I was so um, you know, 504 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I was active. I was an active see, that's that's 505 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: for sure. So I would imagine it was sadly accurate, 506 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: though it against my best wishes, I would say it 507 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: was not. Did you make any money from that movie 508 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: at all? I wish no, we we you know we 509 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: did get money from um like that them using our 510 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: nate like the book right, you know when it when 511 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: it's old. Um, and I get to speak now and 512 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: stuff and and get the protological customers. There's platforms that 513 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: it provided, but now there's not some kind of we 514 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: weren't that smart who knew that no movies make money? Right? 515 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: Like every movie loses money and like we're the one 516 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: that didn't. So we're not that smart on the front end. 517 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? So what's what's your what's 518 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: your when you do speaking engagements? Like what's your message about? Sure? 519 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: You know it depends. I think it depends the group. Um, 520 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: because the professional I'm in now sometimes it asked with 521 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: athletical things that mine a lot of times about getting 522 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: the game and making a difference. Um. I speak a 523 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of foster care groups. UM. And you know a 524 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of people have prating adoption story. I don't. I 525 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: don't ever buy any meanings claim to be a part 526 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: of any kind of great adoptions. There people have better 527 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: stories and us on every street corner in the world. Um. 528 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: But the platforms provided gives the opportunit to say it. Look, 529 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: if you if you open yourself up to to turn 530 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: around and see who needs help, you can really make 531 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: a difference about really doing a whole lot. You know, 532 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: we didn't do a whole lot for Mike. We just 533 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: gave Mica a little bit of an opportunity. Um, that's 534 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: what seagull is that there's people that he's just giving 535 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: pot at your time, you'd be amazed at at the 536 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: difference that it would make, um and someone's life, that 537 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: they really all need a chance. And how close are 538 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: you and Michael now as close as you can be 539 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: with your your thirty three girl, both got four kids 540 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: of his own run around so, um, he's acting he 541 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: was by you, he's up in in your neck of 542 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the woods. Um, because we got if we're around each other, 543 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: and then for sure we are, and if now we're 544 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: just exchanging text bas football or or uh you know, 545 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: some kind of college basketball's like you would your normal 546 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: and your normal sibling. My mom goes up there all 547 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the time. She's you know, she's a grandmother and now 548 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: to his his kids, so she's granny and she's playing 549 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the whole role up there, and she doesn't she does it. 550 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: Also she's active as always when what you deal like, 551 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: what's what's the goal with you for for life? What 552 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: do you want to be? Because you played ball, you 553 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: were famous kid actor almost you uh you played It's 554 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: crazy that you played college basketball and then you flip 555 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: over and you uh like punted played special teams in football? 556 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Like how did you make that trend? Like what even 557 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: made you think you could do that? That was? So 558 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: that can't be true? All right, stop at the humble 559 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: put the humble card down for a second. You you 560 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: legitimately played college basketball, right, you did? So okay? And 561 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: you you go from loyal in near Baltimore down to 562 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: SMU to play football, Like that's two different sports where 563 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: a lot of kids want those spots on the team. 564 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: So you you have to we both know this. You 565 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: have to have something that you're contributing to the team 566 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: or they won't have you there. So in high school, 567 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: were you, uh did you play basketball at a high 568 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: level and football at a high level? I played basket 569 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: baseball and football in high school. I don't probably played 570 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: baseball at the highest for a while, and then um 571 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: I got to law school Waite and became a better 572 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: basket player. Um and football I was, I was okay. 573 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: I di speached the teams in high school too, so 574 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: I wasn't like I was doing something. Now what in 575 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: your quarterback, your safety. Um, and I helped the food 576 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: goals truthfully. And I started to coach Morris. I knew 577 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: him from a long crazy story that his high stoo 578 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: quarterback Jeff and Snee played a little miss for my 579 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: brother Um when he was an alman there a week 580 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: to kind of stay in contact there and we knew 581 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: each other and and uh and and it's a whole 582 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: long stree of time for but I wanted to move 583 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: to Dallas to to work down there, and and uh, 584 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: he help him, said, lonce're walcome uprom me at s MU. 585 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: I said, Coach, I have football in four years and 586 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what I can do. And and uh, 587 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, we talked for a long time and he said, 588 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: well on the spot if you come here. I went 589 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: down there and I was a pretty bad punner. I 590 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: was a really bad scout team dB, but I was 591 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good holder for for field goals. So I 592 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of feeled some hound and that was a fun 593 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: year man being around him. And you know, being from Market, 594 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, being around Arkansas your home a little bit. 595 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: That Coach Morris has to do that, um, you know, 596 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 1: he's he loves his players and that that was most 597 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: fun I've ever had pointing sports. I never wanted to 598 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: work in football. I never saw a million years coming 599 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: and being around him for six months, I was like, man, 600 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: I can't get enough that I got fortunate enough to 601 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: react him to be on staff. But um, it was. 602 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: It was all lucky turn events, kind of good blind 603 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. Man got a little lucky. Is the goal 604 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: now to be a football coach? Oh gosh, no, oh 605 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't want to get ta look administration. 606 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: I like to ultimately being a d um one day. 607 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't have the you know, I drink too much 608 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: red Bull as it is here, I don't have the 609 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: the energy to do with these guys. These guys are 610 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: their coach for us may think it after it, Um, 611 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm thankful to be kind of I saw I do 612 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: uh football offs here and recruiting and stuff like that. 613 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: So I'm off the field, which is where where I 614 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: want to be and well being around our guys and 615 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: recruiting folks and making sure that logistically we're more on track. 616 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: So ultimately I want to get kind of administrative. But 617 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm riding the chad More strain until it 618 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: run bout of juice is a fun, fun rode. You 619 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: know that for the rest of your life, when you're interviewed, 620 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: you you get whatever position you're getting, you move up, 621 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: You're always gonna be asked about the blind side. Yeah, 622 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: and there's worse things to be asked about. I guess 623 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: you know it could be it could be worse. Yeah, 624 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: it could be worse. But you you will eventually get 625 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: and annoyed with it. Yeah, I think it. Man, I 626 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: probably passed that point. Honestly. It's you know, if anyone 627 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: has helped that story and it gets anyone kind of inspiration, man, 628 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm and I'm glad's helpful, and anyone who wants to 629 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: make fun of it, I'm also ill on that because 630 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: there's things about fun it too. So it's, uh, it 631 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm just a part. Well look 632 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: at it. Look at this guy. I had no idea, 633 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: and I remember going, what how did he similar? Similark 634 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: to you? Though? So you know my and I don't 635 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: know if you told the guys this yesterday, but I 636 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: left your feel past at my house right and rushing 637 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: out of the house first game, I'm nervous and so 638 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: I called my dad who saying God was in town 639 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: with the game. Hey man, you gotta bring valley bones 640 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: and and uh Justin Moore and and Joe Nicols feel passed. 641 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: Lets him on the counter and an envelope can you 642 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: bring it to me? And so he's like fighting through 643 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Gamebay traffic and he pulls up and he drops the envelope. 644 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: You know it's our our golf cart that we were 645 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: in there. And then uh yeah, we kind of briefly encountering. 646 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: We drove off back to the circles are making around 647 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: campus and about so my dad sees you on the 648 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: field or I see it after the game, and just 649 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I thought I got on the field. He did tell 650 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: me that was always going and I guess I did. 651 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: I introduced you guys said that bo Dad like that happened. 652 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: It's very brief to know who he was. And I 653 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: looking to in the morning time on way to work, 654 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, Williams, that's your fault. You gotta recognize that 655 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: that that's fine. Well listen, I thought, listen, I think 656 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: you're I don't follow many people on Instagrams. You, I'll 657 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: be honestly, I felt like two people, So you're in 658 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: my heart. You have a special place in my heart, 659 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: except you haven't sent me my my gear yet. I'm 660 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: still waiting. It's in the Mail's in the mail at 661 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,239 Speaker 1: the huge fall, and I appreciate that. It means well 662 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: if I probably get more dates based on that follow 663 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: than I would for any kind of blind that's for me. 664 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: All right, dude, Hey, thanks for taking the time to 665 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: talk to us. And now we've exhausted this topic. So 666 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: now we need to be boys and never talked about 667 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: the blind Side or or any Yeah, we're good. We're good. 668 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Now we've got it all on the open. We're back. 669 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 1: We yeah, we're back to Razor back football. All right, dude, Hey, 670 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: good to talk to you in Yeah, I appreciate it. 671 00:30:50,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: Thanks later. Hello, Hello, how are you good? How are you? 672 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: She's using her phone voice. I just called on my 673 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: cell phone before we went on and I was like, hey, 674 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna call you on the podcast. She was like, Okay, 675 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: are you Kelly Henderson from the Velvet's Edge podcast. We're 676 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: just gonna ask you about Dirk's festival this weekend. Oh 677 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: my god, it was so fun. So what exactly is 678 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: happening at Seven Peaks Festival? Um? Well, there's so much 679 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: music happening, there's so many people, there's a lot of 680 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: um extracurricular activities. Is that a good way to say that? 681 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. We legal in Colorado. Oh so you're 682 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: saying everyone is smoking weed. I mean I assume so, 683 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: but maybe it was just me. I don't know. Okay, no, 684 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: but I'm saying everybody in like back, back in the back, yeah, 685 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: like it's I mean, it's just this hold her vibe 686 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: there just because you're in Colorado, you're surrounded about the mountains, 687 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Well, Derek's called me the next day and 688 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you should come play it next year. 689 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not comfortable around that, Kelly, So maybe I'm 690 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: not gonna go. First of all, you've got to lighten up, 691 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: and you should definitely play it next year. Not everyone's 692 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: doing it. That was probably an exaggeration. What do you 693 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: mean I've got to lighten up? Do drugs? Kelly? Are 694 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: you saying I've got to do drugs? I'm just saying, like, 695 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: live a little. Maybe you should, I don't know, I 696 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: actually think that would be kind of fun. Maybe you 697 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: should eat a gummy, you know, I don't know. That 698 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm totally against that, like I have feel like we've 699 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: talked about this before and he said you would do it. No, 700 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: I never said I would do it, but I'm not. Again, 701 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: I feel I think, I don't know if I've talked 702 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: about it, but I just know how I feel, and 703 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: probably consistent to what I've said before, I'm not against. 704 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: First of all, I think it should be legal, so 705 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: you can put me all across the board. There's zero 706 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: reason that we'd shouldn't be legal, like I can't, especially 707 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: if alcohol is legal. Alcohol is worse than weak, so 708 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: if we're just playing the game of if what's good 709 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: for the goose is good for the gander. That being said, 710 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't drink either. I'm afraid. Mostly I'm just afraid 711 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: of what I would be if I was a little 712 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: bit out of control, because I don't do well out 713 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: of control, because I feel like if I'm not controlling everything, 714 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: not just that but just life in general, that things 715 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: are gonna slip away from me. So that being said, 716 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: I guess that's a much bigger conversation. But maybe that's 717 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: the whole point, Like that's the whole point of weed 718 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: is to relax, super comfortable environment. But I don't. I 719 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: also don't like hot things, really I don't. I wouldn't 720 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: smoke anything, right, So that's why I said I so 721 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: I would. I can't wait for next year when you come. 722 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do it around. 723 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I would. This is what I would do, if I 724 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: would ever do it. I would do it in my 725 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: house by myself. I mean, that is so not fun. Though. 726 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: You don't want to be with people if you can laugh, 727 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: only if well, how do you know? And this is 728 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: why I don't take sleeping pills on airplanes anymore, because 729 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm afraid that I'll just end up pantsless, singing lou 730 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Bega laying on the old lady next to me in 731 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: the aisle. I do because I don't know what happens 732 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: to me once I take that stuff, And if I 733 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: get really sick, maybe I'll take a sleep and pill 734 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: at home when I'm by myself. Because what's the worst 735 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: thing I do? Take a dump on the floor and 736 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: then I have to clean it up later if I'm public. 737 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm scared of that stuff. I mean, 738 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: if you're taking dump on the floor, that's a really 739 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: good edible. That's why I'm worried about. By the way, 740 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: check out, I think you calm and you hang out 741 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: with people that you know and you love and you 742 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: steel comfortable with, and you just relax a little bit. 743 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: Let me plug Kelly's podcast called the Velvet's Edge Podcast. Um, 744 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: that's what I have her on for a second to 745 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: plug your podcast, Velvet's Edge Podcast. Um, how would you 746 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: describe the podcast? And just a couple of sentences, Kelly, 747 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: I think it's mostly you know, I have a blog 748 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: that I do fashion, makeup and all kinds of things 749 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: like that. But the podcast has now become sort of 750 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: like a woman's Health and Emotional Growth. What's good woman? 751 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Woman's health and emotional growth? And never heard you said 752 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: that term? Great term. It's true. I'm just kind of 753 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: investigating all those things that I'm interested in in my 754 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: life and wanting to grow spiritually and emotionally, and so 755 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: I just nnoview people that who can help me do that. Yeah, 756 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: that's good. You should say that. I know you just did, 757 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: but you should say that. Um. Yeah, I mean that's 758 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's my new tagline. I talked about a lot 759 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: more than just weed. But um, you know, and for 760 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: the most part of this podcast is an interview podcast 761 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: or a music podcast that we're doing here. And I 762 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: was just calling really about Seven Peaks because I've seen 763 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: a lot of new stories out about it today. So 764 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: it's in Colorado. It's Dirk's festival. Does he headline all 765 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: nights or one night or a way? Just he headlines 766 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: one night, but he comes out in different you know, 767 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: different people's sets, and he does a little blue grass 768 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: at the Hot Country Nights were there one night, which 769 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: is his nineties cover band. So he's basically doing something 770 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: every night, but just headlining that one night. And what's 771 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: happened with you? Like, what do you mean? Don't know? 772 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: I just thought I would give you like a second 773 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: to share something personal. Um, I'm just plugging away. I've 774 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of work for you actually, to 775 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: be quite honest, you have a lot of stuff coming up, 776 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: Like you tell me sometimes sometimes I don't even know 777 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm doing. Oh well, i'm your stylist, 778 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: so and I'll see your groomer. So I we have 779 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: a lot coming up with Like you have this new 780 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: preena thing you can I talk about that? Yeah? Secret, No, 781 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: it's not top secret. I'm doing something with Pirena dog 782 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: Chow for service dogs. You have a campaign where they're 783 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: talking about service doggs and that to raise money, and 784 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: I've done a lot with them, Um myself and are 785 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: you are? You're going with me, aren't you? Yeah? We 786 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: have two trips to New York City. I'm excited and 787 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: you're going with me on all my American Idol trips. Yeah, 788 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: we're about to be together a lot. How about that? 789 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Oh? I don't care. 790 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: We've been together many ways at this point. What did 791 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: you say? Nothing? Um? So? Uh? And you work for 792 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Dirks too, which is why I called about dirt And 793 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: so what do you do for Dirks? I do dis 794 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: just grooming, which is the nice way to save men's 795 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: parent makeup. There you have it all right. Check out 796 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. A little plug here. 797 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: I thought we'd get a little story about seven peaks um, 798 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: and Kelly told me I should smoke weed or eat 799 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: weed gummies. You know, here's what I would compare it to. 800 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: And why this is something else I'm not comfortable with it. 801 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: I've never done. I've never been to a strip club, right, 802 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: And so if I were to say, do you think 803 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: I've ever been to a strip club without you know, 804 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: one that answered, what would have said? I actually probably 805 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: would have said, Now, you're right. I don't know why 806 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: I was so surprised, and I'm not morally against it. 807 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm you know, giving me awards 808 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: like humanitarian awards or anything. But some of my buddies go. 809 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: But here's why I really never after a while, I 810 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to be the guy who was going, everybody's watching, going, 811 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: let's watch Bobby get his first lab dance, and everyone's watching. 812 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. If I were to try again, 813 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, everybody like, oh, that's see what happens to him. 814 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: Or if I were to drink, like, oh, Bobby drunk, 815 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: let's watch and see what he does. Like, I'm not 816 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: trying to live with that pressure. Well, why don't you 817 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: just not tell anybody that you're eating the gummy? Well 818 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: that's what now, then again, I'll be pants less, pooping 819 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: in the floor, on the floor, the whole feet all right. 820 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: Check out the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. Kelly, 821 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Bye.