WEBVTT - Episode 24: Golf’s Scariest Shots 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:01.160 The guys from Ping. 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:03.880 They've kind of showed me how much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.480 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.640 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.600 Welcome back to the Pink Proving Grounds podcast, Marty. It 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:18.040 is one of the great parts of the year, I'd say, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.480 in both of the areas we live at in the Northeast. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.279 Just wrapping up fall golf, which has been epic obviously. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.840 Now I'm just wreaking leaves all the time. But we 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.400 roll into Halloween week, you get the weather to break. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:29.560 Now. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.639 I know you're dealing with a bit of oversea right now, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.720 but golf courses are about to be epic for the 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.200 next four or five months in Arizona. Is this the 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.519 best time of the year, I'd say, just as a 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.080 universal truth in the United States. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.040 I Shane, I talked to my wife about that all 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.479 the time. I love the fall. She loves the spring, 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.360 her birthdays in the spring Easter, you know, flowers are blooming, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.680 but it's always windy in the spring. Is a golfer 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.760 I love those perfectly calm no win quiet fall days. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:57.680 That's my favorite. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:58.080 Marty. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.760 Are you an adult dresser upper for Halloween or I 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.560 know your kids are a little older than mine. I'm 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.920 assuming if you did that at one point it might 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:06.920 you might be out of it. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.280 Yeah, we stopped that a while back. We phased out 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.720 the adult dresser Reppert. It's all about the kids nowadays. 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.840 Yeah, I'm I'm the reason I have the beard, by 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.040 the way, is I'm Luigi to my son's Mario this year. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.600 So this will all be shaved for the actual day 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.600 and it'll just be the Luigi mustache. So I've been 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.400 letting it grow a little baby, a little more than 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.280 I like for this time of year. But we're gonna 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.000 be the Mario Luigi family. The wife's dressing up, my 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.840 mom's flying in. I did want to ask you, did 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.520 you have an epic golf costume at any point in 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.440 your life for Halloween? 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:40.160 Man? 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.400 I think one year, I like a couple of us 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.280 on the golf team here in town. We dressed up 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.880 like Payne Stewart, So we had the knickers and anything nice, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.480 you know, Payne Stewart cap and so that was kind 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.760 of like our style. And then I think We actually 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.880 wore that like on the last round of the state 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.680 championship thing. But that was my That was probably my 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.760 favorite golf but non golf, my dad and I made 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.120 like it was when the Ghostbusters were huge, So I 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.919 had this cool like paper mache Ghostbusters thing and that 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:11.160 was probably my favorite. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.480 And Marty, can we just say this now, this wasn't 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.160 like you went down the street and there was a 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.360 Spirit Halloween store when we were growing up, Like if 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.160 you wanted a sweet Ghostbusters outfit, Mom and dad and 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.239 you were like getting on the ground and cutting this 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.840 stuff up and building a Ghostbuster's outfit. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.520 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was like a month we 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.840 were working on that thing. I remember, Yeah, building the 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.040 backpack and the tubes and the hoses and taping up, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.080 going buying the silver spray paint and all that stuff. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.560 One year we did a paper mache Spuds Mackenzie hat 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.960 we threw on there and that that was my number 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.000 two favorite. That took forever to build that thing. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.120 Yeah, my favorite outfit I ever had as a kid. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.360 My mom, who is extremely artistic, you know, she would 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.920 like make coloring books and things like that. She I 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.840 wanted to be a baseball card, so she made me 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.200 a baseball card is like a sandwich board outfit. It 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.040 was a Nolan Ryan baseball card and it was huge, 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.000 like all the way down to the ground, and the 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.399 back was like the stats you'd have on the back 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.079 of a baseball card and his career stats and all 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.080 the things you need to know about Nolan Ryan. And 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.160 that was easily my favorite as a kid Halloween outfit. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.440 I had, I think, as parents do. I think it 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.040 still might be hanging in my closet. By the way, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.280 I don't think she's never thrown around. It's whatever, thirty 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.480 years old. We are doing a Halloween episode for one 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.160 specific reason. I know you guys would love to hear 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.680 us talk about our favorite costumes over the years. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.640 But I wanted to dive into the scariest. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.920 Golf shots for players, because golf, for whatever reason, we 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.680 voluntarily play golf, Marty, you know we do it. People 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.120 out there that are listening do it. Millions of people 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.440 around the country play golf voluntarily. 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.520 Yet every round. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.400 Of golf, maybe every hole of golf, there are shots 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.320 that scare the heck out of us. So I wanted 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.400 to dive into maybe five scare golf shots and I 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.560 wanted you to kind of debunk how they aren't actually scary. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.119 And I thought maybe an easy one to start with, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.080 maybe a softball one. Shout out to our friends at 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:11.760 the fried. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.640 Egg, Andy and the crew. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:15.280 I wanted to start with the fried egg because what 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.640 happens is you see pro golfers and tour players have 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.479 a fried egg lie and they pop it out to 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.039 eight feet and make par. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.640 And when average player amateur players show up and they 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.520 see a fright egg, it's like, I might as well 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.440 move out of the next hole. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.960 The fried egg is one for me, Shane. I don't 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.760 know about you, but it gives me zero anxiety. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:35.360 Is a great player. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.000 There's a technique to it, and then there's a speed component, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.680 and so I think those are the two big things. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.400 I think your everyday golfer, you get the fried egg. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.800 Number one, you got to go in there with a 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.360 massive amount of speed because so much of the energy 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.400 of that swing is gonna get eaten up by all 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.120 that sand that you got to go through. So the 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.840 advantage that the better player has is number one. You know, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.880 just way more club ed speed shows you the value 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.599 of speed. And then number two is the technique so 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.760 you know, I think the main way that myself and 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.520 the better players hit the fried egg shot is you're 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.279 gonna that you're gonna kind of stick the club into 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.160 the sand, right. And I was even taught a technique. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.240 I think you saw Sevy do this, you saw Norman 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:19.520 do it back in the day when they have this 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.560 Friday egg where you recoil. You're gonna go in there 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.000 and swing as hard as you can, uh go into 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.520 the sand, and then you recoil it back, right. So 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.039 you want all that sand to be building up and 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.880 putting pressure on the ball from below the ball, and 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.440 that's what's kind of popping it up. So and then 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.400 a lot of the Frida egg shot depends on how 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.359 much green you have to work with and whether you 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.960 kind of need to get it to pop up soft. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.880 I think one of the advantages of the Frida egg 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.800 is normally you get it when you're on the up 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.680 on the face of a riker, right, so you're already 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.839 kind of kind of got that, you know, helping you 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.160 get it out. That's usually when you get the fried egg. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.279 But there's a technique where you actually if it's super fried, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.400 like really deep, you'll actually close the face and hit 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.440 it with the super closed face. Again, the loft that 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.880 you have on the club isn't really what's doing the 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.400 work per se when there's that much sand. So a 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:11.800 lot of it is how do you get the sand 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.240 to kind of build up and and and get it out. So, yeah, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.719 the Frida Egg for the better player, Shane is definitely 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.640 one of those where we go in there, we don't 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:24.520 have that anxiety your everyday golfers like, oh no, I 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.520 want to take an unplayable right right. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.960 Down seven exactly. It's interesting, Marty. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.560 I was taught initially as a kid to do the 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.359 what you were talking about on the back part of 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.960 that where you'd close the face. Yea, you'd almost hit 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.599 it like I always kind of equated it to a shovel, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.159 like you're basically shoveling the ball out, Like that's the 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:44.039 idea you said it. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.360 The sand in theory is pushing. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.320 The ball up and creating you know, height and arc 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.760 and getting even a little softness out of that shot. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.599 But I think something you said is interesting about bunker 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.400 shots in general, because I think bunker shots in general 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.440 are scary golf shots or high handicapped players. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.479 And one of the issues is speed. One of the 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:04.280 issues for. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:05.039 Every day golfers. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.599 Point they're hitting those shots decelerated or they're not going 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.760 at it fully. And what I'll tell my friends that 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.080 struggle out of the bunkers. Hit a bunker shot as 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.800 hard as you possibly can first, and let's see where 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:16.560 the ball ends up. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.960 Yes, so you want to I that's my de facto 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.120 advice for the high handicapper. Swing as hard as possible 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.040 out of the bunker, and if it goes too far, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.480 open the face and then to change how much you 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.360 open the face. But that scares people. That's a scary 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.440 thing for a lot of golfers because they're they're used to, Hey, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.480 I'm around the green. If I open the face, I'm 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.880 gonna scull this thing. So that's scary. So I think 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.640 you gotta get over that. A swing as hard as 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.360 you can for that for if you're a high handicapped player, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.640 and then keep and then open the face to hit 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.200 it shorter and hit it higher. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:48.840 All right. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.400 So a cousin of the fried egg Marty, and I 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.920 would say, this is a shot that does give me anxiety, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.880 and I would like your advice on it. The thirty 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.920 to forty yard bunker shot because you have a cross bunker, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.040 you have a bunker short of a green. I mean, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.920 these designers are smart. They know where they're placing these 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.560 bunkers to create a bit of havoc, at least. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.400 In the brain of a layup on a par five. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.800 Where am I hitting this golf shot? 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.560 You get a little too cute, or maybe you don't 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.760 quite catch that three wood the way you want it, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.960 and all of a sudden you're in this disaster big 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.400 X on the yardage book for a lot of tour players. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.000 Do not hit it here. Tour players struggle with this 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.360 shot as well. What's the advice you have to golfers 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.480 about that scary thirty to forty yard bunker shot where 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.200 they can get it up around the green and maybe 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.520 say par and a par five or avoid the double bogie. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.600 Yeah, no, it is a scary one. Yeah, and even you, Shane, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.360 you said it better. Players get anxiety about this shot. 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.040 I actually have some really cool stats on this and well, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.959 we'll put a little overlay of this in the YouTube 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.079 version for those of you that are listening on the 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.200 audio version. We'll put this chart up there. But we 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.079 ran some numbers from shot Link Shane that showed tour 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:02.000 players when they get in the bunker, they actually have 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.040 a lower probability to hit the green in regulation from 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.959 like sixty yards than they do from one hundred and 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.240 twenty yards. Your odds of hitting the green are lower 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:14.880 out of a bunker from sixty yards than from one 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:15.240 to twenty. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:16.840 What, Marty, why is that? 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.000 Like? 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.559 Why do you feel like that's the case? 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.880 I think it's twofold. One, the SHOT's really hard. We'll 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.480 talk about maybe a technique to be able to handle that. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.800 And then two, I think when you get in those 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.520 bunkers they're super penalizing there. They're the cross bunkers that 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.400 you got to carry to get to maybe chase it 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:34.760 up to the green on the part five or a 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.800 driveable part four. I remember I played that PGA Championship 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.560 Harding Park. There's a drivable part four on the back 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.200 nine there that if you didn't get it up by 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.640 the green, you have that forty to sixty yard kind 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.520 of awkward shot, and a lot of times those bunkers 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.280 have big lips on them. So I think it's kind 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.800 of twofold, but there's definitely data to back that up 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.200 that this shot is really hard. So from a technique standpoint, Shane, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.040 I learned a technique from a coach that's kind of 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.400 like I think it's for me. It's like cheating. I 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.920 should film a little video on this thing. You get 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.079 in there and we'll talk to Derek Dominski, a golf 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.400 better Tucson about this shot too, because he's amazing at 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.080 it as well. But you get in there from say 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.240 fifty to sixty seventy yards and I will literally use 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.520 a six, seven or eight iron wow from those from 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.320 those spots, grip down to the handle, open the face 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.760 a ton, and literally use my same exact technique that 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.840 I'm gonna I'm gonna hit a bunker shot that I 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.120 gotta hit like ten yards with a lob wedge. But 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.360 the thing that you're gonna do is you're gonna cut 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.720 it a lot, so you're gonna put a lot of 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.319 side spin on it. So most of the time, if 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.640 you're in that scenario, your goal so that the tour 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.280 player has a less than fifty percent chance from that 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.480 yard or to hit the green in regulation sixty yard 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.719 bunker shot, sixty yard bunker shot. So my goal, anyone's 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.640 goal is trying to get that ball on the green 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.440 or get up near the green right, and so you 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:00.959 don't need to try to go for the pin or 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.400 do anything like that. Like anytime you're in that scenario, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.520 I'm trying to hit the green, but Shane, I have 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.880 no anxiety. I will pop into a bunker from fifty sixty, seventy, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.800 even eighty yards. There's this transition point where you try 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.520 to hit a splash shot with you know, six seven, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.320 eight iron, nine iron, or do you transition to try 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.320 to pick it clean with your lobwage or sandwich. For me, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.080 that's probably like eighty yards is where I transition to 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.600 try to pick it clean. Otherwise I'm hitting a very 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.320 low lofted club that's gonna give it the energy that 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.520 needs to get to the hole. Set up with the 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.840 hands low, face way open, it's gonna have cut spin 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.240 and then then you don't need to try to hit 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.280 it clean. I think the advantage of a bunker shots 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.560 the only shot in golf besides if you hit one 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.200 out of the water where you don't need to hit 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.400 the ball. Okay, so you want to give yourself a 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.600 little window there, you know, behind the ball and that 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.600 splash shot with a low lofted club gives you that capability, Marty. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.880 When you're hitting these types of shots, even around the 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.079 green out of a bunker, are you looking at a 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.040 spot when you're hitting these shots? Are you looking at 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.960 the ball? Like, where is impact in your mind being made? 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.559 I mean, are you? 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.560 Because I mean, I know it's different for what's the 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.160 shot being asked. You have to hit it high and 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.000 have it spin quickly, or you're trying to kind of 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.640 hit the chunk and run. But how are you deciding 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.160 in theory where to hit the sand behind the ball? 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.840 Yeah? How far behind? If it's a totally let's call 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.600 it stock shot. I still love that idea. I don't 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.400 know if I saw it in a golf magazine or 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.600 whatever back in the day, where you put the ball 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.600 on the middle of a dollar bill, yep, and you're 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.800 trying to enter on the front side and exit on 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.160 the other side the same thing, Marty. It's so funny 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.360 you say that. I just did that with my kids. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.439 I'm like, Okay, here we go, and you'll put that 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.440 little line there now. Granted if you need it, If 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.880 I need to spin it more in the sand, is 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.160 firmer The firmer the sand, you got to have more 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.800 risk and hit closer to the ball right and get 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.880 a little more V shape on the swing. So I 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.880 have a little more V shape, steeper in, steeper out, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.000 the fluffier the sand, you can you kind of have 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.360 a little more margin for it's gonna come out maybe 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.120 with a little bit less spin. And I try to 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.440 have a little bit more U shape kind of to 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.640 my swing in the bunker. So very bunker shot dependent. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.559 But if the stock one dollar bill approach can't beat. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.720 It, Marty, I was playing golf yesterday on seventeen at 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.440 my home club. I hit it in the left ferry bunker. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.800 I had about one hundred and five yards or something. Yeah, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.719 and they just added sand, you know, I mean it's 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.440 new sand. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:24.960 Yeah. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.280 And I was looking at the shot and I was, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.360 you know, how you go through your whole routine of 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.600 like a right, am I gonna maybe I hit fifty 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.200 degree here and just kind of like use more hands, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:35.800 just try to kind of clip it and take a 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.120 little off, or do I go hard at a sand 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.000 wedge out of this which might be my one hundred 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.240 and twenty yard shot, But obviously, you know, it doesn't 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.880 go as far normally out of a fairway bunker shot, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:46.800 and there was so much sand in there. All I 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.280 could think in my head was, I don't think either 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:50.240 of these are gonna work. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.120 Like whatever. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.400 The line wasn't great, but I was like, whatever the 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.760 decision I make here, it's likely gonna end up being chunked, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:57.839 you know, because it was just. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.480 So much thick sand. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.839 Then it was it was it was pretty tightly packed, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.760 but it was thick, and it was just like the 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.760 disaster scary scenario for that type of shot, and it's 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:08.560 not gonna shock you. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.440 I hit it a little chunk and it came up short. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.120 But I will say to Marty, I was I guess 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.040 smart enough to aim right of the flag, knowing if 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.360 I pull the shot off, it'll be on the green. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.200 But if I don't pull the shot off, my angle 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.920 with my third shot is more beneficial for me getting 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:26.640 the wall up and down. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.600 Yeah, Shane, that's tour level thinking. I mean, we saw 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.920 it at the Ryder cup Man. The caddy comes in 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.560 there and take the unplayable. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.360 You know what I mean? I mean not how good 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:35.000 was that? 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.240 That was unbelievable And the fact that you gave him 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.520 credit for it was sweet too, you know, but it's 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.200 just I think that's the thing. When you get in 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.960 these scary scenarios you get you gotta have a plan B. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.280 And I guarantee you the tour players are thinking that 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.880 they are them and their caddies they're thinking it. So 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.520 smart move right there, Shane. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.520 Marty, I've got a list of scary shots on our 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.280 Halloween episode. Is there any that you want to pull 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.240 out of kind of the list that we put together 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.640 that you think would be beneficial to the listener? 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.360 Yeah, I think, well, I'll kind of talk about maybe 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.920 one that wasn't on there, but that I find scary 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:14.400 is is an elevated tee if you're kind of scared 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:15.600 of heights and you're hitting driver. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.320 Okay, okay, okay. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.400 So the one that comes to mind for me, like 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.880 Castle Pines in Colorado, very elevated tea. You're not quite 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.160 on the cliff, but there's a few other courses up 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.160 there in Colorado where you're hitting driver and you're going 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.920 at it hard and you're on a super elevated tea. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.560 For those people that are scared of heights. Maybe I'm 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.640 like a little scared. I'm gonna, like, you know, go 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:42.320 a little crazy after this t shot. Jordan's at Pebble Beach, right, Oh, exactly, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.000 you have the Jordan speed at Pebble exactly. But I 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.480 think the mudball one could be an interesting one, Shaine. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.680 I mean again, I again, what I find fascinated about 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.720 mudball and the forty to sixty yard bunker shot is 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.240 these aren't just scary shots for average players. This is 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.080 a scary shot across the I mean tour players, as 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.640 you mentioned, struggle with that bunker shot and we see 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.640 it happen all the time. I mean, the Bubble Watson 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.000 mudball clip has gone viral one hundred times over because 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.360 it's brought up every time we see a player struggle 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:11.880 with a mudball. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.040 Yeah, and I think, quite frankly, anytime you know, any 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.080 of us good players hit a bad shot, you just 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.280 kind of say mudball, and you just blame it on that. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.760 It all right, So breakdown maybe the mystery of the mudball. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.520 We've all heard if the MUD's on the left or 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.240 the buds on the ball, and the MUD's on the right, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.560 it's gonna go left. Do you have data that can 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.080 actually explain what happens with certain mudballs. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.840 Oh do we have a Shane. So this all started 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.400 back when I went to second stage of Q school 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.280 about ten years ago. I got exempt in the second 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.440 stage and I played at Bear Creek and Myriada, California, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.600 and it was wet. It was in November. It was wet. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.000 I went there and it was a Nicholas course with 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.560 all these creeks that ran in front and I, me 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.000 and everyone else, like, we just had a lot of mudballs, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.360 and it was very challenging to figure out what the 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.200 strategy is. Of course, you know things are going to 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.760 be more uncertain, that's number one. Like your ball could 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.879 go way right or it could go straight ish, so 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.720 you have to plan for way bigger dispersion and more 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.480 factor of safety. But I came back from that event going, man, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.600 we need to have some rules or some science around 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.520 this thing. So we actually did a ping man test, okay, 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.040 and we have a really cool article shame. We'll link 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.040 to it. That's on our Proving Grounds blog on our 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.639 website where you can go see all the data, and 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.880 we even have some really cool high speed video we'll 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.880 show here with this as well. But we actually went 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.439 on the ping man and we purposely like caked on 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.280 mud to the right side of the ball, And we 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:41.919 did that with a bunch of balls. We put on 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.640 the left side of the bawl, we put on the top, 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.680 the bottom, we caked the whole thing, and we ran 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.960 all kinds of testing and so we do have some 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.080 great rules on that, like if you're hitting a four iron. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.560 We did a lot of this with like a four iron, 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.160 so can kind of transfer to the mid iron long 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.359 iron type of thing. But that what everyone's heard is correct. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.080 If there's a lot, a lot of mud on the right, 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.160 the ball is gonna have a bias to the left. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.560 A lot of mud on the left, ball is gonna 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.640 have a bias to the right. Now, what I think 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.320 a lot of people don't know this has helped me 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.440 a lot, is that when you have mud on the ball, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.480 it's gonna fly shorter. Okay, Right, that's the really big 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.080 thing that I think. Oh, you think. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.680 Most of the reasoning for that, Marty, Well. 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.359 It's a couple things. One and when we look at 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.159 this high speed video, the mud lot most of the 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.000 mud comes off right at impact, but there's energy loss. Right, 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.719 there's mud on the ball. You got extra mass on 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.560 the ball a lot of extra mass or a little 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.960 bitound how much, and so there's more mass on the ball, 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.120 and then there's energy loss through that mud coming off 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:42.920 of the golf ball. So it's kind of slowing down 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.720 the initial ball speed. That's number one and number two. 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.000 Any mud that stays on there is changing some of 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.240 the aerodynamic properties. Right, So that airflow stand attached is 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.720 gonna it's gonna change that a little bit. It's gonna 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.199 make it act a little bit like a ball with 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.679 no dimples. Right, We've all heard a ball dimples kind 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.320 of falls out there seeing some cool testing there. It's 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:07.320 kind of from that aerodynamic effect. That's the other reason 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.760 that's compounding that the ball is gonna go shorter or 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.439 then the ball that went the shortest. I think it's 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.920 kind of obvious had mud on the back of the ball. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.960 So if you have any mud between where your club 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.200 head is gonna hit the ball, between the ball and 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.400 the face, you're gonna lose a lot of energy. Right, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.680 So I think one thing fun about the mudball, it's 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.240 something you can test. You can go to the range, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.680 make a little do a little experiment yourself and see 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.600 what happens. But That's the big thing is that the 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.120 mud on the left and right, they're gonna impact from 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.159 the opposite direction of how that ball is gonna fly 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.679 left and right. But regardless of where that mud was, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.000 you need a plan for that golf ball flying shorter. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.720 So in this four iron test we did, I mean, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.600 the balls with mud on them went. If they had 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.480 a little bit of mud left and right, they'd go 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.080 like twenty yards shorter, so ten percent right. So if 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.399 you're two twenty, you're like, oh, it was good, foreign 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.240 got some mud on it. I just need to change 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.840 the aim. No, it's gonna go like twenty yard shorter 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.520 if you got mud on the back or the front 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.439 or the top, it's gonna go like forty yard shorter, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.280 right if you have a lot of mud on there. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.320 So that's the big one. And then and then there's 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.720 just gonna be more variation, right, And I think that's 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.160 kind of obvious. You got a plan for way more 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:21.920 safety in your aim. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.080 I feel like the mudball, at least for me personally, 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.600 when I've been playing, you know something that matters. So 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.840 I'm playing a money game with my buddies, or I'm 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.360 playing a tournament, what I've learned. And I remember Max 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.880 Homa told a great story on my Get a Grip 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.320 podcast when we were doing it together about playing with 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.880 fred Couples at the Masters and Freddy laid up. If 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.600 you remember, this was the November Masters in twenty twenty 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.920 and it was saturated and they split teed that Masters, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.240 if you remember, on Thursday Friday. So they started on 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.959 ten and they got to thirteen. Couples was laying up 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.040 on thirteen and Max said he hit it about two 0:20:59.080 --> 0:20:59.920 feet off the ground. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:00.320 Yea. 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.720 And he said they walked up and he said he 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.040 asked him, like, what were you doing? And he goes, A, 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.960 I was avoiding a mudball, and b I knew if 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:10.680 there was mud on the ball, it would take it 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.960 off by basically hitting a knockdown layup down the fairway. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.639 And I mean, that's obviously advanced thinking, and that's a 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.840 veteran knowing how to play certain golf shots. But one 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.840 thing I've told people about mudballs is try not to 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.720 get too aggressive. You know you have mud on the 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:29.680 ball if it's between shots, lay up, or also if 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.919 there's a lot of trouble around the green, even if 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.880 it's a par four, maybe consider hitting a punch nine 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.320 iron or a iron down the fairway and then hit 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.280 the wedge on the green and try to make par 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.040 that way. Because there's so much deviation with the ball. 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:44.359 You can even hit a good golf You can make 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:46.359 a good swing, hit a good shot, and it could 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:49.080 find itself in the pitdal of the area. So maybe 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.200 take the foot off the pedal a bit. 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:53.720 When there's a mudball makes sense. 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.440 Yeah, you gotta take your medicine. You know, you gotta 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.600 take your medicine. And I think what Freddy did is 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.880 really good advice. He did it to the nth degree there. 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.000 But try to flight that ball down because you can 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.400 minimize the amount of time that ball is in the air, 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.440 and if it starts to go sideways, it's gonna be 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.960 in It's just gonna be in the air not as long, right, 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.400 So kind of keep that ball down. As another great 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.680 piece of advice there. My ball can be scary, man, 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.680 especially as a tournament golfer. Who you got that mud 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.040 on the left and you got water on the right 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.159 and the wind blowing and a mid iron. That's a 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.240 scary shot. Chain' not gonna lie, Marty. 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.359 I have a scary shot. At least for me that 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.080 I went insight from you on in terms of execution. 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.360 So this maybe is less technology base and a little 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.560 bit more execution base. And I was doing the corn 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.240 Ferry Tour Championship at the start of the month and 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.480 the eighteenth hole at Victoria National is a dog leg 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.800 right with water on the right. Now, I'm a lefty 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:52.560 that cuts the ball, That's not a real scary tea 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:54.840 shot for me. But if it went the other way, 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.760 now you're talking about a scary shot. So what I 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.360 wrote down was a t shot with trouble in your 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.760 shot shape landing zone. So for me, a lefty that 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.080 cuts the ball, that would be water or out of 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:12.720 bounds left, how do you eliminate the either the shot 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.680 going that way towards the trouble or at least maybe 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:19.520 the mindset of that being a scary golf shot with trouble, 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.040 maybe in the direction of the path your golf ball 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:22.800 typically goes. 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.119 I've struggled, like a lot of golfers, Shane, with the wind, 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:30.920 the wind off your back and trouble to the right, 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.880 it's okay, and that ball could begin pealing. It's just that, yes, 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.960 Snario right and I've tried to think about this, like 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.560 why is that? And and as i've done more force 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.520 plate stuff and things of that nature. I think one 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.600 thing that's happened that's that's helped me personally is if 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.960 the wind's blowing off your back. We actually do this 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.600 at the range because in the summer we have those 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.359 big big fans and air conditioners. Yeah, you see on 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.439 the side of the NFL sideline. I'll actually set up 0:23:56.440 --> 0:23:58.520 and put those right behind me. There'll be no wind 0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.879 down range. It just feels it's like it's blowing at 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.880 your back, right. And one thing I think that happens 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.560 is if the wind's blowing at your back, let's say 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.640 twenty miles an hour, that's pretty significant. Fifteen miles an hour, 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.280 it's going to force you to kind of want to 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.960 get your pressure or your weight towards your toes. So 0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:17.560 I think what a lot of golfers do is they'll 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.320 kind of quote unquote early extend. They'll come out of 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.080 their posture, so to speak. Okay, So one thing that's 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.960 helped me, because that's a counterbalancing move, right, is to 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.119 kind of get your weight further back on your heels, 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.159 and maybe you do that because your hips go forward 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:33.880 and your chest comes up and that tips the shaft 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:35.960 and you get your swing direction more left and you 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.520 hit a you know, a shot that gets you into 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.720 real trouble. So one thing that's helped me is to 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.679 really try to stay in my posture or flextion with 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:48.160 my upper body. That's number one. Number two could be 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.760 changing like we talked about, we recently had a conversation 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.400 with Kent notes about driver versus three with three wood 0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.720 might be easier to draw. So I think maybe considering 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.800 going to a three wood in that scenario could be 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.879 super helpful where you have a little bit more spin, 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.920 maybe easier to draw. If you have the skill and capability, 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.159 it might not be a bad idea to try to 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.800 bias your impact location slightly to the toe. Certainly that's 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.040 a little bit more advanced technique for maybe a player 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.040 that they could do that, and then changing your tea height. 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.360 I think teeing it low with your driver will generally 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.639 impart more slice spin. Okay, so if you're comfortable with that, 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.720 trying to bias your impact location slightly high and slightly 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.120 toe side can kind of hedge that. So I've tried 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.359 to implement, you know, the combination of all those three things. 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.840 At the end of the day, shanees these scary shots, 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.919 the most important thing is to commit. You gotta commit. 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:47.760 Even if you happen to get it in there and 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.720 get it into trouble, you want to be happy with 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:52.679 your commitment to that shot. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.920 So we've brought up i'd say shots that you might 0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.600 face once around or maybe once a month, right, a mudball, 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.520 a forty fifty yard bunker shot like these don't happen 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.560 every round. This happens multiple times around. And it's as 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.360 much as you guys have done in terms of trying 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:14.560 to simplify gapping for players. There's we don't have thirty 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.719 clubs in the back, right, We've got fourteen clubs in 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.760 the back, and that is it. What about awkward yardage 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.240 or in between club golf shots with an iron? What 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.679 do you tell people when their seven iron goes one 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.920 forty they're six iron goes one fifty five, and they're 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.480 at one forty five and they're going, do I try 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.760 to step on the seven iron? Do I try to 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:35.640 hit an easy six? 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.080 Like? What do you feel like is the best case 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.400 scenario or the best practice for the player that deals 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:43.840 with the in between shot that they have three, four, 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:44.600 five times. 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:46.000 Around, Shane. 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.040 I think it's highly dependent on the skill of the golfer, right, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.679 and so if it's let's say mid to high handicap player, 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.560 they're probably not skilled enough to kind of maybe be 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.560 practicing some tweeener techniques. I would say at that point, 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:03.439 it's all about strategy, like is it better to be 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.280 long of the pin? Is it better to be short? 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.600 One thing we've seen glaring with our RCOs data mining 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.640 is that mid to high handicap golfers come up short 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.880 at a ratio of like five or ten to one, 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.760 then they go long. So give yourself permission, folks, to 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.120 look at what happens here if I hit this thing 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.760 past the hole. Okay, the better player is always looking 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.760 at that they got that front pin, they're looking at 0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.960 the back, you know, they're looking at the yardage to 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.680 hit it to the back of the green. That has 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.040 been super helpful, Shane. So for me, let's say I 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:41.119 get there, it's one sixty five water short triple bogue. 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.359 If you come up short, give me the number to 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.359 the back of the green. If it's one eighty five 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.200 and I know if I rip a seven iron, it's 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.040 never going past one eighty five. I'm hitting that seven 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:54.000 iron back there to one seventy eight all day long. 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.680 Feet yep, get your two putt and get out of there. 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.800 So strategy is number one. And then if you do 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.640 that at you know, take that number to the pin 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.520 out of your brain, give yourself another number that's ten 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.239 yards past the pin and commit. That would be a 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.480 choice number one if you do want to work on 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.480 kind of dialing it in. Uh. I think it's an 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.280 experimentation between gripping down, see what that does for you. 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.560 That doesn't work for everybody because a lot of people say, 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.120 oh I grip down and actually hit the same distance 0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.919 just lower. So that's kind of something that happens for 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.200 a lot of people. So gripping down, changing your tempo, 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.880 swinging a little bit slower Shane Wan technique I've kind 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:33.679 of used. I've talked about that's kind of a seeker. 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.879 One is changing golf ball that goes a little bit shorter. 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.560 That's that's a little fun one to throw in the 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.200 mix too, Marty. 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.840 Something that I have seen with my buddies about golf. 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.080 In terms of this discussion, about you know you don't 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.360 have a perfect number, right, because rarely do you have 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.640 the perfect number. It doesn't happen a lot. Is we 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:55.720 all have rangefinders now and we all shoot the flag, 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.040 and I feel like in our brains what has happened 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.400 is we've become obset with the number that is on 0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.200 the screen. Right I shoot the flag, it says one 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.479 forty three. And what you said earlier is exactly what 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.200 I tell my buddies is, don't fall in love with 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.040 just the pin number, because the greens are big. Greens 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.720 are big, and you might have ten yards short and 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.040 you might have fifteen yards long. And yeah, you don't 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.160 get a pin sheet at most casual round golf courses 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.000 you play, but you're smart enough as a golfer to 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.240 look at where the pin is. Maybe they're colored flags. 0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.520 Maybe red is front and you've got a red flag, 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.960 blues back, whatever. Or you know your golf course because 0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:34.880 you play it often and you know where the flag is. 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:37.920 Just at least if nothing else, I write it down. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.520 I'll write it down on a pin sheet. When I'm 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.400 playing in tournament golf, I'll write the number down and 0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.240 then I'll do the math and figure out what front 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.680 and back is what it has done for me, Marty, 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.480 is it frees the shot up. It makes the shot 0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.080 way less stressful because all of a sudden, I'm in 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.400 an uncomfortable number and I know I don't necessarily have 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.400 a stock shot to hit there. But I've now got 0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.200 twenty yards like you said, I've got twenty yards long. 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.479 Oh yeah, well, I mean I can hit the longer 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.920 club because even if I mash it to your point 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.880 about the seven hour and on eighty five, even if 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.440 I absolutely hit it in the screws, I know that 0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.200 ball's not going to go over the green. And if 0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.800 you're on the green and you have thirty feet for birdie, 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.000 make your par and move on to when you get 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:18.960 a more comfortable number. 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.240 Yeah, Shane, that's great advice. And one of my friends 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.440 who caddies on the PGA Tours caddy for me in 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.120 a bunch of events. He said, Hey, you need a 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.640 kind of caddy for yourself in these tournaments when I'm 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.720 out there playing by myself. I've actually literally tried to 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.640 do that like first person, third person, like oh, one 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.960 eighty five, you're never going over with that. You can 0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.200 rip that all day long. And you will never go over. 0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:44.440 So that's such important advice, and it has that compounding 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.720 effects Chaine that it frees you up. 0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:47.280 Now. 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.720 I think one interesting thing I was so curious about 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.720 when we talked to Victor Hoblin about his winning the 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.760 playoff event and in Chicago was when he shot twenty 0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.520 eight on the back nine. I think he actually did 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.320 have the perfect number on a lot of those shots. 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.960 Totally agree, And that's how that was. Part of how 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.560 that happened is like, okay, he could he could literally 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.320 go at every flag because he had the perfect number. Yeah, 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.960 he took a little bit off here, look a little 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.360 bit off there. That's when the magic happens. But that 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.800 is a rare thing to have that perfect number on 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:19.880 a lot of shots. 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:20.280 Yeah. 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.520 I mean, we're talking a bit about scary shots, but 0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.720 we're also talking a bit about misconceptions in and around golf, 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.720 shots and golf, and James Knitties has brought this up 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.080 to me multiple times. I do a lot of the 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.600 corn Ferry Tour covered with James. He's become a good 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.920 buddy of mine, and he says that you hear so 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.800 many people say it's tough to back up a really 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.600 low round with another great round. And one of his 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.560 points about that is most really low rounds from pro 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.520 golfers happen when you do have those great numbers. 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:47.880 So you have a round. 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.880 Where three of the part three's are your stock clubs. Yeah, 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.880 and then you've hit six or sevent t shots to 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.959 stock numbers. And when you're really grooving and you're feeling 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.200 good with the golf, swinging with your golf game, that's 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.200 gonna be inside of an eight foot circle. You're gonna 0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:04.680 have a lot of birdie putts there. And then the 0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.000 next day, all of a sudden, the part threes aren't 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.680 your stock numbers, and you aren't hit those shots with 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:11.840 the stock numbers, and it's not as easy to hit 0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.920 the ball to eight feet. So I find that really fascinating. 0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.160 Another scary shot before we get to one more, I 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.400 did want to ask you. You're a great player, You've 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.040 played in major championships. We know about your golf pedigree. 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.280 What is your scary shot? What's the shot that scares 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.200 Marty the most when you're playing competitive golf. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.960 Shane, in those big events, It's the scariest thing for 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:34.840 me is the first t shot. I gotta be honest, 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.520 I am so nervous man that first major I played 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:43.200 in at Atlanta Athletic Club, I just was so nervous 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.200 and I had a lot of anxiety about getting off 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.440 the first tee. It doesn't matter if it's like the 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.720 easiest hole. Even when I played the Phoenix Open here 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.040 and the first hole is like a nothing burger, Like. 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.200 You're probably not a hitting driver, right, yeah, you don't 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:54.920 even hit driver. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.160 I was so nervous. I like T driver super low 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.240 and I chipped it down there. So that is that 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.360 scares me more than it, you know whatever. I could 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.920 be on the second green having to hit a flop 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.640 shot into the grain over bunker and that will that 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.479 is nothing compared to getting off that first tea. And 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.680 I think that's for me because I only playing those event. 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.760 I'm not playing those events like all the time, right, 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.760 But it's so strange after I hit that first t shot, 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.719 walking down the tour walk with my caddy, Everything's like 0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.200 back to normal and I'm pumped, excited and feeling good. 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:28.800 Marty. 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.200 It's funny with with kind of some changes in technology. 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.280 It to me, and I'm sure you feel the same 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.720 way with the G four to thirty driver. I'm so 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.840 in love with this driver that when I'm nervous, I 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.160 want to hit the driver over every other club in 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.160 my bag. I think if you go back twenty years, 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.920 that would not have been the case for most golfers. 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.000 They're gonna hit a long iron, They're gonna try to 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.880 get something in the fairway. I'm with you, I'd say, 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.840 if you ask me the same question, always the first tea, 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.880 I'll be thinking about it a day in advance, like, 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.480 oh my goodness, this first hole and at the ameter, 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.240 you know, I started at Colorado. The first hole is 0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.400 a par five and you have to bash driver, and 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.440 you have to be a good driver. And it was 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.319 actually nice for me because I remember I was so 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.399 nervous about the tea shot trouble on both sides. If 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.480 you missed the fairway, you're basically gonna be retine. And 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.080 I got on the tee and I said, aim right, 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.359 and just try to hit it as hard as you can, 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.000 because what that does is it kind of freese a 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.239 bit of the nerves up, allowing you to swing driver. 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.720 And like you said, in a nervy moment of yours, 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.239 playing your first phoenix open the last thing you want 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.240 to do is try to kind of crunch squeeze a hybrid. 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.959 You're like, man, I'll sit the driver again. 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:42.160 I need that big head. Yeah. So that's scary for 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.600 me personally, like that first tea shot. But you know 0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.879 that's different for everybody, you know. But that's uh, that's 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.319 given me some anxiety, and I've tried to be very 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.680 aware of it, like, hey, this is gonna happen. 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:54.239 You are gonna be there. 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.960 Embrace your nerves, Embrace it. You know it's gonna be 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.360 a part of. 0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:58.680 It, all right. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.880 Last one for you, left to right putts for righty, 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.880 what do you do to avoid the scariness of having 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.160 that slider that moves away from you? You know, I 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.480 always go back to Torrey Pines and John Rahm and 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.879 his ability to make those putts on the last two 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.680 holes that were all sliding away from him. Those are 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.400 scary puts for right handers. For me, obviously, it's moving 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.480 the other way. But how do you commit to the 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.799 putts that move away from a golfer that feel like 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:27.680 they're hard to get online? 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.440 Yeah, I think the sensation that at least I've had 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.239 Shane personally is it's almost like right when the ball 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.960 is still on the face, it's starting to slide already, 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.839 I agree with you. So that's pretty interesting. I think 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.560 one thing that I've done is, you know, stand a little, 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.120 you know, change how far you're standing from the ball, 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:51.279 so I will actually scoot a little bit closer to 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.719 the to the ones. Okay, So I think that kind 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.840 of hedges the face a little bit more closed, and 0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.840 it keeps my pressure and my weight more in my toes. 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.520 Right again, kind of, I think that when the ball 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.000 above and below your feet, there's a lot going on 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.600 there because you're not used to practicing those things. And 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.359 then I think the big thing this this might be 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.040 sound like very simple advice, is try to turn that 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.600 thing into a straight putt, so you know, work on 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.719 your green reading. Pick a really good target, pick a 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:20.040 really good spot. That's that's helped me is try to 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.120 try to improve my green reading. And even if this putt, 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.640 I mean those puts John Rommaine were breaking like twelve 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.880 feet or fifteen feet or whatever, but try to almost 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.600 visualize your You're you're watching TV with the with the 0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.320 putt viewed trace and the putt trace and saying, okay, 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.640 this is where I need to start this thing right 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.640 and be really committed to that and try to think 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.160 about it like a visualize it like a straight putt, 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.520 and just let it go. Don't worry about making it. 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:48.920 Just commit to it. 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:49.880 Marty. 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.200 I'm not a I'm not a draw line on the 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:53.040 golf ball guy. 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.200 I don't do that. 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.000 I did it for a while, and what I learned 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.960 about myself was I'm more of a feel putter. And 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.080 what happened was I became I'm obsessed with the line. 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.120 I gotta start it on the line here, So it's 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.880 never worked great for me. What I have learned is 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.880 I will line up those putts so again, I'm a 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.440 left handed golfer, so minor moving the other way from you, 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.360 minor moving right to left, I'll line up like the 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.319 prov one X line with the with the arrows on it. 0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.160 I don't have the I don't draw it on there 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.479 with the sharpie. But when I have this scary six 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.360 footers that are moving that way that you need to 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.680 make for par I'll actually line it up because to me, Marty, 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:30.240 it does what you said. It makes it a straight 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.360 putt right all of a sudden. As long as I 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.319 can start it on that line, I know that it 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.520 has a good chance of going in and it saves 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.319 me that face push that's so easy to do. 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.600 Yeah, And I think you see the tour players like 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.080 this kind of gets into that concept of block practice 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.320 versus random. But I think you've seen some tour players 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.799 talk about they have a big putt under pressure and 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.960 they just put themselves in the scenario of their block practice, like, oh, 0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.920 I'm just gonna treat this one like I just I 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.360 just hit a bunch of these twelve footers with my 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.080 or eight, with my mirrors and my alignments and all 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.600 that stuff, and they just put themselves into that zone, 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.400 you know. I think it was Justin Rose talked about 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.359 that at the Ryder Cup, right like, I'm just gonna 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.040 hit this like I like, I like I do my 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.719 block practice, and if you put that line on there 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.360 or turn it into a straight putt, I think that 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.040 is a way to kind of get out of this 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:23.400 pressure scary moment and put yourself into Okay, I'm gonna 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.160 I've hit them. I've just hit a million of these, 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.560 uh you know, uh in practice. 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:28.960 Yeah, Marty, It's funny. 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.920 I one of the things that flipped for me in 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.040 terms of putting in that five eight foot circle that 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.680 obviously is kind of that scoring area is I would 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.000 I would go through a lot of what ifs in 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.839 my brain as I was either looking at a pot 0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:45.000 or reading a putt, or it's gonna break more than 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.279 it is or whatever. And something that's helped me over 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.120 the last couple of years is I've simplified it down 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.160 to this. If it's a really nervy putt, I tell 0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.920 myself there are two scenarios. You can miss it or 0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:58.960 you can make it, and that is it. And it 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.239 doesn't matter if you've read it perfectly or if you 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.560 hit the perfect putt. There's there's two outcomes and all 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.080 you can do, and you said this earlier, all you 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.040 can do is commit to what you think the putt does. 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.799 And if you've committed to it, when it doesn't go in, 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.880 then you read it wrong, or that it didn't roll perfect, 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.040 it hits something, whatever. 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:18.400 The case may be. 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.480 But if you have committed to what you saw the 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.080 putt do, that's all you can do. That's the only 0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.240 thing you can kind of control. 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.239 Yeah, I agree. 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.000 I mean what I do on my putting, Shane, is 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.680 I do it based on my breath work, right, So 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:35.000 I do these kind of a breathing technique that is 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.360 intended to calm your nervous system. And when in my routine, 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.560 I do four breaths and I released, I roll the 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.640 putt after my last exhale in that fourth breath. But 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.920 one thing I always think about, Shane, is that is 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.600 Tiger making that putt. We've all seen the worm cam 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:53.200 at Tory Pine. Yeah, we all to get in the playoff. Man, 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.600 oh man, that ball is like I mean, it's it's 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.759 like plink O going down there. I mean how I mean, 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.120 think about what was He couldn't force that thing in. 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.960 He just could let it go. It's gonna hit all 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.839 its little humps and bumps and then boom drop in there. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.480 I mean, I mean, look at how much that changed history. 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.120 You can only control getting that ball started, you know, 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:14.600 the rest of it is out of your control. 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.400 Yeah, I mean, it's it's you know, some guys complete 0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.560 the pass on fourth and six and some guys don't. 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.520 And Tiger was obvious the guy that would always complete 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.880 the path on fourth pass on fourth and six. Do 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.920 you have any more scary golf shots you want to hit? 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.879 On before we go, because I know like there's plenty. 0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:31.719 I mean there's a million out there. I mean off 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.319 a car path, out of a divot. Anything that you've 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.960 kind of feel like you've perfected in terms of the 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.839 scary Halloween shot that that you've got advice on. 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.319 I think the uh Man in the the other scary 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.160 one for me, Shane is into the grain, super grainy Bermuda, 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:48.560 Texas Florida grain. 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:53.360 Whatever. What you gotta getting nervous with you talking about it? 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.440 Mark, you got a bunker there that's soft and sandy, 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.479 and you're gonna plug it. You gotta hit it high, 0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.480 the pins tucked your short side. Man, you have to commit. 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.840 You gotta commit. I think the big thing on scary 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.520 shots for everybody's take your medicine, Like, don't be afraid 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.600 even if you're around the green or in a bunker 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.399 forty fifty yards out, get the ball on the green, 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.040 eliminate the double bogie. 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:14.600 Yeah. 0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:19.319 It's so funny that I feel like most golfers you 0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.200 play with, you know somebody that's in that let's call 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.839 it eight to fifteen handicap range. They've been struggling off 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.000 to tea most of the day. They pipe a drive 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.640 on a par five, they're kind of at their max 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.840 carry or capacity with the three wood, and there's trouble 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.400 around the green and they're trying to hit threewood on 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.239 the green right, and you're sitting there going you did 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.160 the hard part, you hit the drive, you pulled it off. Yeah, 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.600 make this easy on yourself. Hit a six iron down 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.040 the fairway, give yourself one hundred yards, and even as 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:51.959 a fifteen handicap from one hundred yards, you're likely gonna 0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.320 hit it in and around the green and give yourself 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.839 that chance at part. And maybe you hit a great 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.000 wedge and you make the birdie. But what's the likelihood 0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:01.520 that after the great t shot, when the swing hasn't 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.400 been there all day, you're gonna produce that three wood 0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.680 that goes your best distance possible to get on the green. 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.479 You know, water short, water left. 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.319 It's just try it, like you said, try to take 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:15.560 the scary out of it by giving yourself a little leeway. 0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:20.279 Exactly exactly, Shane Golfers. There are scary shots every time 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.080 you tee it up. That's everything. That's the beauty and 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.480 the pain of this game. I think I still think 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.640 about golf shots that I've hit over the years that 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.359 frightened me to the core and I wish I could 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:31.520 have back, but we. 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.560 All have them for everybody. Have a happy, have a safe, 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.000 have a great Halloween. Take some of the candy from 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.840 the kids, keep it on the side, put it in. 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:40.680 Your golf bag. 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.120 That's for you, that's for all the walk and you're 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.920 gonna be doing tonight, and we'll check back with you 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:47.279 guys next week. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.120 This is the Paining Proven Grounds podcast.