1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: hope everyone had a good time over the weekend watching 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: not just football, but the one hundred and first annual 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: New York Baseball Writers Association Dinner that was broadcast live 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: here on the Foul Territory Network the Fouls Territory Channel. 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: And now we resume our normal work schedule. Now we 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: start off today with something that came out over the 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: weekend that was a bit of a surprise, the Jose 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: Ramirez extension with the Cleveland Guardians seven years, one hundred 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: and seventy five million, with seventy million in deferrals. Now, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez wasn't up until after next year, if I'm 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: not mistaken, so there was no urgency here. But Ramirez 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: over the years has been quite vocal about wanting to 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: stay in Cleveland, wanting to finish his career in Cleveland. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: He's comfortable there, he likes it there. So we talk 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: all the time in our sport about how little, small 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: markets can never keep their players. Obviously, in many cases 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: that is true. It's not always true though. Now Ramirez 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: in his case, has taken below market value. But we've 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: also seen Corbyn Carroll remain on a long term deal 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Diamondbacks, Julio Rodriguez remain on a long 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: term deal with the Seattle Mariners, and Bobby Witch Junior 23 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Royals. Ramirez obviously is an older 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: player compared to those guys, and this deal will take 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: him through his age forty season through twenty thirty two. Obviously, 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: by then, I don't know that Jose Ramirez will be 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the same player he is today. But this is a 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: player who, in my estimation, is a likely Hall of Famer, honestly, 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: a near certain Hall of Famer. He is likely to 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: end up the franchise leader for the Guardians in a 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: number of categories. But beyond that, here's the thing that 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: stands out to me and really distinguishes Jose Ramirez from 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: a lot of players today. Seven top five MVP finishes. 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Seven that's astounding. Now, he's never won because he plays 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: in the same league as Joho Tani once did and 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge now does, but he has been a top 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: five finisher, which speaks to his dominance over the years. 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Just a wonderful player, a guy that you like to 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: see rewarded and Jose Ramirez. You see the cap or 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: the helmet flying off. Zach Meisel of the Athletic keeps 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: track all year long of the helmet counter for Jose Ramirez, 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: how many times he loses his helmet running the bases. 43 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: He's a fun player to watch. He is an excellent player. 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: He's the heart and soul of that team. And now 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: he's under contract through the age of forty. Other news 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend, a little bit of a different twist 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: here you. Darvish comes out in a San Diego Union 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: tribute and report on Saturday. I believe that he was 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: going to retire, that he was planning on relinquishing the 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: final three years of his salary, and that was going 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: to be it for him. Well not so fast. Darvish's agent, 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Joel Wolf, immediately issued a statement saying nothing is resolved. 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Then Darvish followed with a statement. You see his statement 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: right here. You may have seen an article. And although 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: I am leaning towards avoiding the contract, there's still a 56 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: lot that has to be talked about over with the Padres, 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: so the final details are yet to be announced. I 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: am not announcing my retirement yet. Now this one is 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: a complicated case. You, Darvish is a complicated guy. He 60 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: indeed is willing to sacrifice money. He did that a 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago with the Padres when he went 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: on a bit of a hiatus for personal reasons. But 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: he has three years left on this deal. Three years 64 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: left on this deal, and he's currently injured. So from 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: the standpoint of the Major League Baseball Players Association, their stance, 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I would imagine, as well as his agent stance Joel 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: Wolf is not so fast. Let's see if we can 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: negotiate something here. And I'm not saying this is happening. 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I imagine this is somewhat of 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: a factor here. He is injured, and an injured player 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: who is covered by insurance, as I would to anticipate, 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: Darvish is can remain active or at least trying to 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: rehab while collecting his salary. Now, will he forfeit some 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: of that salary? Perhaps, and perhaps that will happen, But 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty rare when any player walks away from guaranteed money. 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: You Darvish is a rare guy, and he's the one 77 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: guy probably in the game you could see doing it. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: But this isn't gil Mesh going back, I don't know, 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: over a decade now, walking away from the final twelve 80 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: million on his contract in one year when he was healthy, 81 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: that was one year. This is three years. Darvish is injured. 82 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: So it's a little bit more complicated than just saying, 83 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm done, and I'm gonna walk away, 84 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: give the Padres back their money. Not happening so fast, 85 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: So the story was premature in the San Diego Union Tribune. Obviously, 86 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: Darvish and his agent responded and we will see how 87 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: this ultimately gets resolved. It will get re I anticipate 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: it will be resolved by opening day, but again they're 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: not quite the finish line yet. They're kind of a 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: long way from that. Right now. Conversations have to take 91 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: place with the Union, with Major League Baseball, and of 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: course with the Padres as well. So that's you, Darvish 93 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: and staying out west. The San Francisco Giants report by 94 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Baggerley of The Athletic over the weekend that they 95 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: made an aggressive push for CJ. Abrams, and they would 96 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: have played Abrams at second base. William Doomas of course, 97 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: is at shortstop. You have Ralphael Devers at first, Matt 98 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Chapman at third. That would have been quite the dynamic infield, 99 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: but it didn't go very far. And obviously the Giants 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: are still looking. They're in a division in which the 101 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: Dodgers obviously are a powerhouse. The Padres are kind of 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: a question still. They are trying to do some more things. 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: They want to get one more starting pitcher, probably in 104 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: the eight to twelve million dollars a year range, that 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of aava to twelve million, and they'd also like 106 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: to get a hitter. Remember, they were in the Nolan 107 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: Ornado sweepstakes, but ultimately didn't want to really pay any 108 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: of the remaining obligation to Ronado. The Diamondbacks took on 109 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: eleven million of the forty two million, and that's how 110 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: they got him. But back to the Giants. The Giants 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: are a team that really has had a quiet offseason. 112 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: And it's curious because here's a team that in recent 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: years has signed Chapman a Damas Endeavors acquired into trade 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: two big deals. Devers was already signed, but the Giants 115 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: inherited that contract. So they've got those players under contract. 116 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: They've got them in the primes of their careers for 117 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: the most part, and yet this offseason they seem to 118 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: have stalled. They haven't done much at all. They've added 119 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: to the rotation Tyler Malley and Adrian Hawser, good pitchers, 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: serviceable major league starters, but not guys that are really 121 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: lighted out by any stretch of the imagination. They're in 122 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: a position with their payroll where their cash payroll is 123 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five million and their luxury tax 124 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: payroll is more than thirty million dollars below the threshold, 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: more than thirty million below. So you would think that 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: they have room to do at least one major thing, 127 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: maybe even two. But it seems that they're stalled. And 128 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: it seems that for whatever reason, the aggressiveness they showed 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: in to devonstrate a particular but also last offseason in 130 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: signing a damis for whatever reason, that has I wouldn't 131 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: say disappeared, but it's not the same level for sure. 132 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: So where do they go from here? As Andrew Baggerly mentioned, 133 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Harrison Bader is a possible target. Their outfield is thin 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: right now. They've got Elliott Ramos, they've got Jung Huli, 135 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: they need one more. They could also use a second basement, 136 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and I would suggest that they also could use a 137 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: starting pitcher. Now, Tony Vaiitello is their manager, the new manager, 138 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: another reason why you might want to support him as 139 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: much as you can. It's his first year coming out 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: of college. But with Vtello, you have the intriguing possibility 141 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: down the line of maybe Max Scherzer coming aboard. And 142 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: as I wrote over the weekend with Will Salmon, Max 143 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Scherzer is kind of in a wait and see mode. 144 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: He's ready to go right now. He'll sign with a 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: team if it's one of the teams he wants to 146 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: sign with at this moment. But if he doesn't get 147 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: the right offer from the right team, he's willing to wait, 148 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: willing to wait until after Opening Days. So I wonder 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: if Max Scherzer is a guy ultimately who ends up 150 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: with the Giants sometime in mid season. Now, before we 151 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: end this segment, I want to show you the remaining 152 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: free agents. The top free agents remaining according to the 153 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Athletics Big Board, we had a top fifty. Here's who's left. 154 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Frobert Valdez at five a, Johannio Swarez at sixteen, Zach 155 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Gallan at twenty one, Lucas Giulido at thirty, Crispasset at 156 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: thirty one, Harrison Better just mentioned at thirty two Luisa 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: rise at thirty three. Andrew Baggerley and his story about 158 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: the Giants the other day also mentioned a rise as 159 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: a possibility for the Giants at second base where they're 160 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: looking at Casey Schmidt right now. I don't know that 161 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I see that happening, but right now the Giants are 162 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: looking kind of at all available options, that is where 163 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: they are. 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Well, well, time down for the Inside Dish. 172 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: The part of the show I talk about something happening 173 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: in the game, maybe something I've written, and today I'm 174 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: going to focus on The story that I published this 175 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: morning in The Athletic one about the new Angels hitting 176 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: coach Brady Anderson. The former oriol center fielder. Brady Anderson 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: is a guy I've covered virtually his entire career, from 178 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: the time he was traded from the Boston Red Sox 179 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: to the Orioles at the July nineteen eighty eight deadline. 180 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: That was an amazing trade for the Oriols. It was 181 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Brady Anderson and Kurt Schilling for Mike Bodeker. Worked out 182 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: pretty well for Baltimore, but Brady Anderson struggled to establish 183 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: himself really for three plus years, and it wasn't until 184 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two when the late manager of the Orioles, 185 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: then Johnny Oates, basically said you're going to be my 186 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: leadoff man in center fielder that Anderson took off in 187 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: his career, and at that point he was a guy 188 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: who could really run, could really defend. He stole fifty 189 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: three bases that season in nineteen ninety two as the 190 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Oriols leadoff man and really took off fifteen year career. 191 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Three time All Stars, stole more than three hundred bases 192 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: career ops nine percent above league average career ops plus 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: I should say the adjusted ops now. As I mentioned 194 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: in the article, his fifty homer season in nineteen ninety 195 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: six triggered suspicions of ped Us. There was never any 196 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: form of evidence presented to show that he did that, 197 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: and we're not living in a world to hearsay, at 198 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: least not in my world. So that is that. Now 199 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: the story is about, of course, how he has been coaching, 200 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: not formally but kind of informally for many years now, 201 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: and his last professional season was two thousand and three. 202 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: He goes to camp with the San Diego Padres on 203 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: a minor league deal. He gets released in spring training 204 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: and asks the late Padres general manager Kevin Towers, hey, 205 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: can I go to Triple A? And Tower said, you 206 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: want to go to Triple A? You've played fifteen years 207 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: in the major leagues. Anderson said, yes, I'd like to 208 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: go there. And while he was there, he actually played 209 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: pretty well, didn't stay very long, but found himself being 210 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: a mentor to younger players, and that was really the 211 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: first time he had kind of done that, and it 212 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: seems like the light bulb went on. Now years later 213 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: he joined the Orioles front office. He was very close 214 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: with the Angelo's family, the owner Peter Angelos and his 215 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: sons Lou and John, and he joined the Orils in 216 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of this undefined, vague front office role. Ultimately rose 217 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: to vice president of baseball Operations. He was second on 218 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: the depth chart under Dan Duquette, and yet he wasn't 219 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: really a front office guy. As I said, his role 220 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: was undefined. He did a little bit of everything, and 221 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: a lot of it involved coaching. He ran the strengthen 222 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: conditioning program. He through batting practice, He assisted with analytics, 223 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: He collaborated with the hitting coaches. In twenty twelve, he 224 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: was even in uniform and that year he was almost 225 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: an active coach Major League Baseball of hearst had rules 226 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: on how many coaches could stay in the dugouts, so 227 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: he didn't stay then in that particular spot as a 228 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: uniformed person in the dugout. Buck Show. Walter, the Oriol's 229 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: manager at the time, loved Anderson, but some players and 230 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: some coaches were uncomfortable with the fact that a front 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: office guy was always around. And pitching coach Dave Wallace 232 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: at the time, bullpen coach Don Cheaty at the time, 233 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: they both felt that Anderson was operating with a lot 234 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: of autonomy but without accountability, and ultimately those two coaches 235 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: they left for the Braves after the twenty sixteen season, 236 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and in twenty seventeen I wrote an article for Fox 237 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: Sports dot Com I was not yet at the Athletic 238 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: detailing Anderson's role and how it was vague and how 239 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: it was uncomfortable for some people, and Wallace and Cheaty 240 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: both told me in that story that part of the 241 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: reason they left was because of their own happiness with 242 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: what Anderson was doing. So Anderson still hung around the 243 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: Oils for a few years after that, until twenty nineteen. 244 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Mike Elias had taken over as VP general manager. I 245 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: should say and Anderson was not part of his group, 246 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: kind of was let go. Still worked with players over 247 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: the years, so after that he didn't hear much from him. 248 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't active in the game, even though he was 249 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: still working with players on the side, and when he 250 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: was named the Angels hitting coach under a first time manager, 251 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Kurt Suzuki, I was very surprised, but I was even 252 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: more surprised to learn that not only was Anderson going 253 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: to be on that Angel's coaching staff, but Dom Cheaty, 254 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: one of the coaches who had problems with him in Baltimore, 255 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a contentious relationship with him in Baltimore. 256 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: He was also going to be on that staff. It 257 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: raised questions in my mind because I remember that article 258 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: vividly from eight years ago. I remember the whole situation. 259 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I called Cheaty. I called a lot of people, and 260 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I asked Cheaty in particular. I said, Hey, what's up here. 261 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: You told me all those years ago that you left 262 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: because of Brady, and now you're gonna work with Brady again. 263 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: And he said, basically that he misspoke, that he was 264 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: speaking out of frustration back then, that he had no 265 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: problem with Brady Anderson. Yes, they had some differences, but 266 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: baseball people, when they have their differences, they express their 267 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: opinions and they move on. And if anything, actually this 268 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: was the case, he recommended Brady Anderson for that position. 269 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: So the story is about not all these conflict that's 270 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: in there. That's part of it because it's part of 271 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: the backstory. But really what the story is centered around 272 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: are three former Orioles who basically credit Anderson with helping 273 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: save their careers. The three are Caleb, Joseph Trey, man 274 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: and a picture a very prominent picture in his day, 275 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Zach Britton. And the story details how each of these 276 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: guys was in a bad place in his career, and Anderson, 277 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: through instruction, and in Britain's case more through encouragement, really 278 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: played a pivotal role for them. So I found it 279 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: all really interesting, and I felt that if I found 280 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: it interesting, the readers would find it interesting too. It's 281 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: one of the longest stories I've written in a while, 282 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: but it's a different kind of story. And here's a 283 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: guy no formal coaching experience, never been a coach at 284 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: any level, but yet he's been coaching for a long time. 285 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: You see the story right there. Brady Anderson just landed 286 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: his first formal coaching job at sixty two. He's been 287 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: teaching players for years. I encourage everyone to read it. 288 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I think you'll find it interesting too, at least that's 289 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: the hope. And for more on The Angels, Mark Trumbo 290 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: and Mike Di Giovanna host ain Haylio Territory, I'm sorry, 291 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: not Angel's territory. Helo Territory. Catch parts one and two 292 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: of their conversation with former Angels skipper Mike Soshia out now. 293 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: I actually watched some of this last night. It was 294 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: rather interesting. Subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your 295 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: podcast to the entire foul Territory network. Grill and Ken 296 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: is coming up next. 297 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: Hey, when you get a chance, subscribe to foul Territory 298 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: on YouTube. 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With Brombert that would be going 323 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: back to the Houston Astros. With Zach Gallon, that would 324 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: be going back to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Could I see 325 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks maybe doing a short term thing with Gallen. 326 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: I could possibly see that. But at the same time, 327 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: they are a team that, because they held on to 328 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Katel Marte, are not maybe as flexible financially as they 329 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: were going to be if they had traded him. Now, 330 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: what's interesting with the Diamondbacks. Remember they were in on 331 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman for a time, didn't sign him, so obviously 332 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: their owner Ken Kendrick in special cases will make exceptions. 333 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine Gallon in the Diamondbacks' minds might qualify 334 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: as a special case. So I'll take back my initial 335 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: comment a little bit. I would say Gallen has a 336 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: better chance of going back to his former team than Valdez. Certainly. 337 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: What are the chances of that happening, I don't know. 338 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rest of his market is, 339 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: Gallen's market, but I would say that there is a 340 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: slight chance of that happening. Gallen back to Arizona. Next question, 341 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: this one comes from foul Territory Show our people. Do 342 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: you agree? And that's with C. Trent rosecrants that Elie 343 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: dela Cruz could be a billion dollar player. No, I 344 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. He's a great player, Elie de 345 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: la Cruz, but he's still developing, he's still kind of 346 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: polishing his game. And yes, by the time he reaches 347 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: free agency. Is it possible that we're talking about a 348 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: billion dollars When we've got Juan Soto at seven sixty 349 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: five and Shoho Tani it's seven hundred, that's not that 350 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: far from a billion. I just don't know that Eli 351 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: de la Cruz is going to be that guy. At 352 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: this stage of his career. He could develop into it 353 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: and if he becomes someone who fu fills his potential, yeah, 354 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you can maybe see that. But man, that's a lot 355 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: of money. But then again, seven hundred and sixty five 356 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: million is a lot of buddy, we'll see. I'm rooting 357 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: for him. I'm rooting for anybody to make as much 358 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: money as they can. All right, let's get to the 359 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: next question. That's when comes from Cody Klegg who asks 360 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: what is going on with the Pirates in their pursuit 361 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: of au Haino Suarez. The truth of that question, or 362 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: the true answer for me, would be, I don't exactly know. Oh, 363 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: we do know the Pirates are interested. We do know 364 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: the Pirates have pursued a number of free agents in 365 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: this offseason, but landed only one really of their targets, 366 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: Ryan O'Hearn. That was a two year, twenty nine million 367 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: dollar deal. Their trade editions were Brandon lab Jake Mangum, 368 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: both coming from Tampa Bay, and the Password coming from Boston. 369 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: But they haven't gone beyond that as far as trades 370 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: just yet, and that is how I expect their next 371 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: move maybe to come through another trade. I don't know 372 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: how they're going to do with Suarez or other free agents. 373 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: They certainly are in the mix for him, but I 374 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: just don't see the Pirates necessarily being anyone's first choice 375 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: unless their options elsewhere are limited. And that is what 376 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: I'm talking about here. That's the problem that they've had 377 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: with Suarez and others. So we'll see what they do. 378 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: As far as their offense, they need one more bat 379 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: at the very least. Andrew McCutcheon had some strong things 380 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: to say about the team seeming lack of interest in 381 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: him over the weekend. His comments were on X and 382 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: I encourage people to check them out. All right, let's 383 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: get to another question. This one comes from I'm not 384 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: even gonna say his name. We don't need any foul 385 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: names here. Are the Marlins going to trade Sandy. They're 386 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: not going to trade him just yet. And if they 387 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: wanted to trade him this offseason, they probably would have 388 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: done it by now, but they've already traded two starting pitchers, 389 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera and Ryan Weathers. If Sandy al Contra has 390 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: a great first half and the Marlins are out of contention, 391 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: certainly I can see the equation turning in the favor 392 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: of a trade. But I don't anticipate that happening. I 393 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: don't anticipate the Marlins falling out of contention so quickly. 394 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: They won seventy nine games last year. They arguably are 395 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit better this year. They've got an interesting 396 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: club that they've assembled. They play the game in kind 397 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: of a Brewer's esque style. They've got Pete Fairbanks to close. Now. 398 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I expect the Marlins are going to be a competitive team. 399 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: Maybe not a total wild card contender, but it's not 400 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: out of the question. So if that happens, do you 401 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: trade Sandy al Contra at the deadline? Maybe you do, 402 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: maybe you don't. Maybe you pull up Brewers and you 403 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of do that kind of thing, try to get 404 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: younger players that will be with you longer term. But man, 405 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: if they're competitive, I would think that they're going to 406 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: have a hard time doing that, hard time coming to 407 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: grips with that and less and less. I will say this, 408 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: their younger pitchers really emerge, and Thomas White's one of them, 409 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: and they've got some others as well coming and that 410 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons they were willing to trade 411 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Cabrera and Ryan Weathers to make room for those guys. 412 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out, but as of now, 413 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect al Contra to go all right. One 414 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: more question this comes from Letsheva Jones, who asks Ken 415 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: on paper, are Reds better than Cubbies? On paper? No, 416 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: they are not better than the Cubs. The Cincinnati Reds 417 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: are not. They're still looking for at least one more hitter. 418 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Austin Hayes has been on their radar. A oohaner Suarez 419 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: has been on their radar. As I wrote with Will 420 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: Salmon last week, one problem for the Reds has been 421 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the lack of clarity on their TV deal. They just 422 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that's going to look like going forward. 423 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: They're hoping for some more answers this week. It's a 424 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: complicated thing. They're one of nine teams in that mainstream 425 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: group that is affiliated with that network, and that network 426 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: is having all kinds of financial issues, so they need 427 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: some resolution there and then they'll presumably go forward and 428 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: get another hitter. I don't know exactly how it's going 429 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: to play out for them, but on paper right now, 430 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: while they're starting, pitching is very good, and while their 431 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: bullpen should be okay, I just don't see them quite 432 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: as strong as the Cubs. All right, with that, I 433 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: want to thank everyone for watching, for listening however, you 434 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: enjoy our show. Foul Territory is coming up next at 435 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: one pm Eastern. It's Jim Bowden and Alex Call. They'll 436 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: be the guest, joining Todd Frasier, Arik Kratz and Scop Braun. 437 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: I guess AJ can't work more than two days in 438 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: a row. We're back Thursday at twelve thirty Eastern with 439 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: a lama Uso joining us. Of course, talk to you then. 440 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Have a great week everyone,