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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Final Hour

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Speaker 1: of the Day for Wednesday. We'll be back with you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow and Friday. Buck is in Taiwan. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with you on Monday. We are joined now by our

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Speaker 1: friend Tudor Dixon from Michigan. I was with her about

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Speaker 1: ten days ago or so up at Mackinaw Island. One

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Speaker 1: of the most beautiful places in the entire United States.

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Speaker 1: Northern Michigan in general, especially in the summer and the

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Speaker 1: fall of not a cold weather guy, some of you

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Speaker 1: are is one of the most spectacular places in the nation.

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Speaker 1: I would never have heard about it if I hadn't

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Speaker 1: gotten married to my wife, Laura, who is a Michigander. Tudor,

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Speaker 1: you went to the University of Kentucky. I believe condolences

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Speaker 1: on the fact that they basically have no football program anymore.

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Speaker 1: But you have been in Michigan for some time now

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Speaker 1: as well. It's fun to hang out with you. For

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Speaker 1: people who don't know about northern Michigan, what would you

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have some of it up very nicely.

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Speaker 2: It is beautiful. I think what people don't know about

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Speaker 2: Michigan in general is that we have these gorgeous beaches.

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Speaker 2: I've said to people, we have these amazing beaches, and

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Speaker 2: they're like, you're crazy, You're nowhere near the ocean. But

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Speaker 2: if you have never seen the Great Lakes before, Lake

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Speaker 2: Michigan is incredible. If you go up to Northern Michigan,

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Speaker 2: we have these. We have lakes up there. Torch Lake

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Speaker 2: is just incredible. It's like the Caribbean. It's bright green,

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Speaker 2: it's very clear. It's just unreal that this actually exists

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Speaker 2: in the northern part of the country. And the weather

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Speaker 2: in the summer is gorgeous. But this is the time

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Speaker 2: that we were Actually I was in Macanaw last weekend

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Speaker 2: met with the Turning Point group up at Northern Michigan University.

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Speaker 2: It is just gorgeous up there, gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: For people. I said this when we talked to the

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Speaker 1: fantastic to meet so many people at the event at

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Speaker 1: Mackinaw Island that we did. Michigan, I would argue, is

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Speaker 1: maybe the number one battleground now in America. And I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people talk about Pennsylvania, but if

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Speaker 1: if you look at the governor's race that is coming up,

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Speaker 1: and obviously, as we look ahead already to twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: whoever wins Michigan is going to be the next president

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Speaker 1: of the United States in twenty twenty eight. How are

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Speaker 1: things looking for Republicans on the ground. What should all

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Speaker 2: Tutor Well, I think the point that you're making is

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Speaker 2: very key. Michigan is absolutely the number one battleground state,

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Speaker 2: and that means that whether it is a Republican that

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Speaker 2: become more powerful in Washington, d C. We've had a

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Speaker 2: history of sending Democrats to Washington DC. You know, Jennifer

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Speaker 2: You know Pete buddhaj Edge is a Traverse City resident,

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Speaker 2: He was Transportation Secretary. You do not want to continue

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Speaker 2: to make these radical democrats famous in Washington, DC, or

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Speaker 2: Heaven forbid give them more power. And so that's why

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Speaker 2: I want people to think about these seats that are

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Speaker 2: But we've got Tom Barrett, who is an amazing guy.

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Speaker 3: You have not let this happen.

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Speaker 2: If you were from outside of the state. Please, we

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Tutor Dixon. She's part of the Clay

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Speaker 1: What do you see in terms of culture impact? I

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Speaker 1: the American Eagle Sydney Sweeney jeans campaign. There's a big

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Speaker 2: I totally feel like we're punching back and winning. We've

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Speaker 2: So that's that's okay to continue to promote that. But

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Speaker 2: the past few weeks, we've seen so many people come

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Speaker 2: and that's a good thing. That's really what what drives

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Speaker 2: and that's in children. I want to have kids. I

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Speaker 2: want to honor that those additional American values. But the

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Speaker 2: interesting part is that the professors haven't let this go yet.

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Speaker 2: So this kid that started this chapter up in northern Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned that you had girls. I've got boys, boys

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Speaker 1: going to grow up and get married together. How much

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Speaker 2: I think so because we were in a slightly different situation.

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Speaker 2: Our girls are in Christian school. But I think the

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Speaker 1: Let's go to cut thirty, which is jade Van's being

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Speaker 1: What do you think the reaction to this process will

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Speaker 10: I mean, I grew up around a lot of this.

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Speaker 10: might hang.

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Speaker 1: Up if she if she knew you were going to

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Speaker 10: But that's okay. I mean you you come from I

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Speaker 10: mean Donald Trump was a Democrat too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a Democrat.

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Speaker 10: I'm not running away from that. Yeah, I understand when

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Speaker 10: also such a thing as growing up uh and UH

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Speaker 10: maturing and moving past the ideals that you were taught

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Speaker 10: not something I talk about, and a lot of my

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Speaker 10: friends wouldn't probably even know that because I have until

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Speaker 1: So people change their minds. How do people change their minds?

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Speaker 1: You convince them that the things that they used to

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Speaker 1: out there right now with friends and family that still

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Speaker 1: think this is Bill Clinton's Democrat Party. They still think

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Speaker 1: this is Jimmy Carter's Democrat Party. They don't pay attention

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Speaker 1: to what Democrats actually say. They picked the team and

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Speaker 1: they turned their brain off, and they've continued to hit

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Speaker 1: fact that the Democrat Party of the seventies and the

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Speaker 1: all of the people that believed what those guys believe

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Speaker 1: would be Republicans. Now you'll go back and look Bill

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Speaker 1: Clinton ninety two, Bill Clinton ninety six. Heck, look at

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Speaker 1: the clips of Chuck Schumer back then, look at the

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Speaker 1: clips of Joe Bidt. I didn't back then. They're saying

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Speaker 1: everything Donald Trump is saying now. A lot of us,

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Speaker 1: very much on issues. It's just the Democrat Party's gone

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Speaker 1: insane and we weren't willing to hop on the train

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Speaker 1: of millions of people, a lot of them. You guys

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Speaker 1: are listening to me right now that in nineteen nineties

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Speaker 1: may not have listened to Russian inball in the early

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Speaker 1: two thousands, may not have listened to Russian Limbaugh. But

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Speaker 1: over time and COVID was for many people. I think

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Speaker 1: that push point where it radicalized a lot of us,

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Speaker 1: and where it demonstrated how lost the Democrat Party has

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Speaker 1: become in many ways. I mean, I've made this argument

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I think it's the best argument

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Speaker 1: you can make, other than the fact that clearly it's

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Speaker 1: not true. But when somebody says Trump's a fascist, Trump

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Speaker 1: wants to be a dictator, we all know that's a

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Speaker 1: laughable argument. But you can actually push back with this

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Speaker 1: simple question that they won't have an answer to. If

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Speaker 1: that were actually true, why didn't Trump take over everything

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Speaker 1: during the early days of COVID in twenty twenty, Trump

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Speaker 1: the What did Trump do?

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Speaker 7: Then?

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Speaker 1: A lot of you are upset with the choices Trump

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Speaker 1: made in the early days of COVID, But most of

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Speaker 1: it was just deferring to local state politicians. He let

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Speaker 1: that kids on hiking trails be handcuffed. They were begging

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Speaker 1: for federal authority, for big government to come in and

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Speaker 1: weigh down its heavy hand. Never, in most of our lives,

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Speaker 1: with the possible exception of the immediate aftermath of nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven, has a president had a time when he

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Speaker 1: could have taken more power and more authority than right

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Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath of COVID, in the spring and

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Speaker 1: had that opportunity to take almost complete and total power

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Speaker 1: in the United States? He deferred to state and local authorities.

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Speaker 1: In fact, to such an extent that I think you

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Speaker 1: can criticize him not for being a dictator, but for

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Speaker 1: being too committed to the principles of federalism such that

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Speaker 1: he did not take over all of the power that

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Speaker 1: was waiting to be grabbed.

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Speaker 7: There.

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Speaker 1: You know who did Joe Biden. So anybody out there

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Speaker 1: who says, oh, Trump's going to be a dictator, just

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Speaker 1: ask well, why didn't he dictate when for basically the

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Speaker 1: time in American history when a president could have taken

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Speaker 1: more power than almost ever before in the history of

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Speaker 1: this republic, Trump actually deferred and said, let's let local

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Speaker 1: governments and local leaders make decisions instead of federalizing. His

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Speaker 1: leadership stuff one to respond to. We got to cut

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Speaker 1: government shutdowns going on. This is what happens. This is

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Speaker 1: what you hear. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt has recorded a message.

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Speaker 1: They can't answer the phones, Federal workers can't do their

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Speaker 1: jobs because of the Chuck Schumer shutdown. This is what

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Speaker 1: it sounds like if you call the White House, thank.

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Speaker 9: You for calling the White House Commentary. Hello America, this

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Speaker 9: is White House Press Secretary Caroline love It. Democrats and

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Speaker 9: Congress have shut down the federal government because they care

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Speaker 9: more about funding health care for illegal immigrants than they

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Speaker 9: care about serving you, the American people. Until Democrats vote

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Speaker 9: for the Clean Republican fact Continuing Resolution to reopen the government,

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Speaker 9: the White House is unable to answer your call or

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Speaker 9: respond to your questions. We look forward to hearing from

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Speaker 9: you again very soon, and in the meantime, please know

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Speaker 9: President Trump will never stop fighting for you. Thank you,

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Speaker 9: and God bless you.

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Speaker 1: That's Caroline Levitt. That's what you get when you call

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Speaker 1: the White House comment line. Bit can you imagine some

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Speaker 1: of the comments that line gets, probably even crazier than

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Speaker 1: some of the comments we get. We come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: have some fun. We'll close up shop on the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the program. But I want to tell you

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Speaker 1: last weekend in New York City, the Tunnel the Towers

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Speaker 1: and walk, held each year on the last Sunday of September.

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Speaker 1: What began with fifteen hundred people in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 1: as now one of the top five K runs in

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Speaker 1: the country, drawing forty thousand people. It retraces firefighter Steven

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Speaker 1: Siller's final footsteps that day. After abandoning his car. He

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Speaker 1: ran with sixty pounds of gear from the foot of

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Speaker 1: the Battery tunnel to the Twin Towers. He never made

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Speaker 1: it out. The five K pays homage to the three

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Speaker 1: there are firefighters service members lining the road holding photos

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Speaker 1: of all those we lost. You can support the great

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Speaker 11: Chiep up with the biggest political comeback in world history

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Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Talk Aback Again Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: Let's see We've got doctor Mark, associate dean at a

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Speaker 1: college in Mississippi. What you got for us, doctor Mark?

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Speaker 12: Hey, thanks for taking my call. Let's appreciate it. I

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Speaker 12: just want people to know that not all professors are

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Speaker 12: that bad, right. It's important that that we know that.

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Speaker 12: I find myself in social situations having introduced myself, But

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Speaker 12: what do you do. I'm a professor and.

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Speaker 7: I see it.

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Speaker 12: Look, I have to tell them, well, I'm not one

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Speaker 12: of those kind of professors. So I think a lot

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Speaker 12: of us are getting a bad rap. But more importantly,

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Speaker 12: I think that it's it's really important for parents to

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Speaker 12: get involved in the college selection process. I love it

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Speaker 12: when parents come to campus. I love it when they

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Speaker 12: ask questions. I just don't want parents to think that

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Speaker 12: you're going to send them to my old alma mater.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure the buildings are all the same, but the

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Speaker 12: people inside are all different. So ask questions when you

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Speaker 12: go on these trips, ask what's the leadership, Like, what

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Speaker 12: will my kid learn? I know, I know that I

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Speaker 12: I really understand that parents have put, you know, seventeen

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Speaker 12: eighteen years worth of hard work in raising their kid

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Speaker 12: and when they come to my college, you know, they're

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Speaker 12: not going to get full of left wing ideologies. They're

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Speaker 12: they're just gonna They're gonna get a great education. They're

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Speaker 12: going to learn how to think, not what to think.

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Speaker 12: So I just wanted to throw that out there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Look, I'm in the process

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Speaker 1: of going through My oldest is a senior in high school,

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Speaker 1: so we're going through the act the SEC, the college

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Speaker 1: a SAT. He may end up at an SEC school,

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Speaker 1: but we're going through the process of the college application visits.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to name the school because I worry

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Speaker 1: for what I do about causing my kids challenge when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the applications that they are putting in candidly,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know who's reading applications. They may have

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Speaker 1: no idea who I am. They may see my name

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Speaker 1: and be like I hate that guy. They may like me.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not optimistic that it's always going to

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Speaker 1: be in my favor of my kids, so I try

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Speaker 1: not to say where they're applying, so I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to say the school. First thing that happened this is

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Speaker 1: an elite institution. Was touring with my oldest son, who's

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Speaker 1: a senior. Before they began the tour, we had a

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Speaker 1: and I looked around. I thought I was being pranked.

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, there's no way this is possibly real.

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Speaker 1: Before they said anything about the school, before they talked

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Speaker 1: they said, before we begin this tour, let's have a

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Speaker 1: land acknowledgement. I thought I was being pranked. My son

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Speaker 1: he looked at me like, hey, Dad, can you believe

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Speaker 1: this is going on. He's not going to be applying

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Speaker 1: to that school. His choice, not mine. He was just like,

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Speaker 1: if they start a a campus tour with the land acknowledgement,

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Speaker 1: that's not the kind of culture that I want to

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Speaker 1: be in for the next four years. I have to imagine,

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Speaker 1: and he's a young man, that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of young men and women out there having that same

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Speaker 1: kind of reaction. I can't believe that would be a

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Speaker 1: positive thing. Let's see ee is that? Who's up next

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Speaker 1: on the talk back line? Which got forth?

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Speaker 13: Guys, maybe sometime you could explain to us why sports

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Speaker 13: is so important. You keep talking about sports, sports, sports,

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Speaker 13: What does that have to do with anything? And why

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Speaker 13: should we care about sports? I don't understand that part.

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Speaker 13: Why don't you talk about military as much as you

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Speaker 13: talk about the sports that's more important?

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Speaker 1: Military is real. Yeah, it's weird. This is the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy who doesn't ever understand why he gets his

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Speaker 1: ass kicked in elections. Honestly, this is a lot of

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Speaker 1: you out there are having to understand that politics is

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Speaker 1: downstream from culture. The military is way more important. Do

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Speaker 1: you know how you end up with Pete Hegseth as

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of War and Donald Trump as the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States. You don't win it by winning

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Speaker 1: arguments necessarily about tax policy. You change the culture. Culture

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Speaker 1: dictates who wins elections. Trump is a perfect example of this.

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Speaker 1: The guy was a reality television star who people got

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Speaker 1: comfortable with. Look at Ronald Reagan was a movie star.

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Speaker 1: Culture wins elections. Culture culture culture. You can't win elections

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Speaker 1: without winning sports without winning in larger cultural battles. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I love the military, but you know how to make

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Speaker 1: the military even more badass. Elect people like Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: who put people like Pete Hegseth in control. Plve you guys,