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Speaker 4: Do we want to live in a country of freedom,

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Speaker 4: compassion and rule of law or a country of chaos,

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Speaker 4: fear and hate. And here's the beauty of this moment.

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Speaker 4: We each have the power to answer that question.

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Speaker 3: The power is with the people.

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Speaker 4: Power to answer that question. And in the next one

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Speaker 4: hundred and five days, then we have work to do.

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Speaker 4: We have doors to knock on, we have phone calls

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Speaker 4: to make, we have voters to register, and.

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Speaker 5: We have an election to win.

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all, this is Native lampod It is episode

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. It's flying by, just like these days as

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Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to the election. Frankly, it

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Speaker 1: was the best of times, it was the worst of times,

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Speaker 1: and it is, of course the story of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Among us, there is equal parts celebration and grief. There

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Speaker 1: are many who are so excited about Pamala Harris's ascension

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Speaker 1: to the top of the ticket, and there are still

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Speaker 1: so many among us who are grieving the loss and

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Speaker 1: the tragic murder of Sonya Massey. And so today we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about both of those things and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: We welcome you home. We asked for just a brief

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Speaker 1: moment of silence to honor Sonya Massey. So here we are.

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Speaker 1: We are on the other side of Joe Biden stepping

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Speaker 1: down from running for president. He decided that he would

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Speaker 1: not be running this amiss, having COVID being quarantined in

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Speaker 1: Delaware and passing the torch to Kamala Harris as he

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Speaker 1: promised to do four years ago. To be clear, So

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Speaker 1: I want to hear y'all way in on all the things.

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Speaker 1: A lot can change in a week.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: We were just here talking about what we really felt

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Speaker 1: about folks pushing Joe Biden telling him that it was

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Speaker 1: time to go. Andrew, you had some strong thoughts. I

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Speaker 1: had some strong thoughts. Tiff was feeling torn both ways.

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Speaker 1: Where do y'all stand now?

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Speaker 3: Well, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because the ground, the ground has shifted and Tiffany,

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Speaker 3: you're looking great over there, Angela looking great. Is good

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Speaker 3: to be back with y'all, especially after last week where

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Speaker 3: we let all of our thoughts come unfettered, unchecked. It

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Speaker 3: bringing our full selves. But Angela, the conversation that Tiff

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Speaker 3: because it's the fight that everybody seems to be having

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about people who used to be critics

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Speaker 7: I think it's crazy that, you know, we recorded this

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Speaker 7: by the weekend, by Sunday, that was now old news.

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Speaker 7: Then you know, you had this crazy shift in politics

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Speaker 7: And I have to say, I think, you know, prior

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure you shared a stage with her before. Andrew,

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Speaker 7: you have a relationship with her. It's interesting how this happened.

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Speaker 7: And I wonder was there any other way a black

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Speaker 7: looking to see who might white folks support. Vote with

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Speaker 7: your conviction. When we were in a group chat and

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Speaker 7: then somebody kept saying, oh, but will the public feel this?

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Speaker 7: You are the public. And she will define herself in

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Speaker 7: her own way. Having been the Vice pre is it

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Speaker 7: distinct to distinguish herself and the differences between she and

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Speaker 7: feel nervous because as we you know, applow forward to November.

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Speaker 7: I am reminded that a significant amount of these people

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Speaker 7: have already decided that election results don't matter, that they

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Speaker 7: So I think this wind has to be a decisive

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Speaker 7: I know we're all excited and hopeful, but what is

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Speaker 7: What are the things we were thinking about, whether they're

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was different to you. Well, I want to

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Speaker 3: An Angela before where you go there? Tiff asked the

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Speaker 7: Mister Ford, what advice would you give a young lady

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Speaker 8: Well, I hope we do have a young lady at

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Speaker 8: because it won't happen. In the normal course of events,

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Speaker 3: That didn't happen, and the woman.

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Speaker 8: Will become president under the law. And once that barrier

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Speaker 5: I just thought it was so he killed a man

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Speaker 1: That's why it wasn't going to this maculating all online everywhere,

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Speaker 7: Anyway, I hadn't seen it. That was my first time.

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Speaker 7: I think that was a great tea up. He was

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Speaker 7: forecasting what would happen absolutely decades later, Sands the killing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but it's so crazy that at that time

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Speaker 3: a woman would get together. The man will be president,

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Speaker 3: the woman vice president, and she'll ascend through some crisis

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Speaker 7: Well, when a black woman, that's a whole other situation too.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of black women in my excitement, you guys know,

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Speaker 1: I have a uniform that I like to wear every week,

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Speaker 1: and this week I'm slightly at a dress codes. Soho

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Speaker 1: I could just wear this, Oh.

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Speaker 7: I got my sweatd wait, take your Can you take

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Speaker 1: just to celebrate this moment. I was delighted that Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden kept his commitment to Kamala Harris. I am delighted

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Speaker 1: I think we've said a lot on this podcast, and

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Speaker 1: Kamala when you're just one on one with her, is

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Speaker 7: Harris? Say again, Oh, I'm just calling her vice president

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Speaker 7: But I know you know her personally. I'm literally about

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Speaker 7: now say Kamala.

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Speaker 1: So I think I'm safe and they know I deeply

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Speaker 1: ready to say, was when you're in those one on

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Speaker 1: on that point, I really wanted to ask y'all on

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Speaker 1: the other side of her raising more than one hundred

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Speaker 1: yes she can, right, Folks came out and they said

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Speaker 1: instead of being like you know that apathy turned to

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Speaker 1: that tiff. The question I have is one that TIF

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Speaker 1: different coalition. I don't think it's the Obama coalition, and

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Speaker 1: even Barack Obama went on Fox News. He went on

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Speaker 1: Fox News, he was interviewed on Fox News. Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't just think she should do a debate on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: I think she should be interviewed there. She could pick

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Speaker 1: her interviewer, but like, yeah, she she absolutely needs to

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Speaker 1: talk to people who are uncomfortable with her, who say

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Speaker 1: Kamala instead of Kamala. People who you know, will want

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Speaker 1: to demonize her, and just like Donald Trump was birtha

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Speaker 1: in chief, under Barack Obama will try to say that

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Speaker 1: she's not a citizen, like all of the things that

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Speaker 1: they'll do to try to engage in xenophobic scare tactics

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Speaker 1: to keep people from even being curious about her. So

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Speaker 1: for that viewer, that person who could be persuaded, but

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Speaker 1: they're not curious, as you said, maybe you have to

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Speaker 1: bring the curiosity to their to their living room. So

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Speaker 1: I don't have the answers. What I can say is

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Speaker 1: the math we have ain't going to take her across

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Speaker 1: the finish line. And so where are you Fox?

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Speaker 7: As a as a like a community validator, would would

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Speaker 7: you would you go?

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Speaker 1: I would struggle with that. I think we've to all

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Speaker 1: talked about it, right, Like I think for me, I

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Speaker 1: think Kamala is more mature than me. I think you

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Speaker 1: more mature than me. Like I'm looking to call somebody

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Speaker 1: a bit on Fox right, Like it's like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go down, right, It's just like take my

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Speaker 1: ears off, ready to swing, throw a shoot. Can't fight,

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Speaker 1: you know, But maybe I would do that. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust my my inner salvation enough to go

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Speaker 1: on Fox. But I think that if there were some parameters,

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Speaker 1: and I were people on a part of her strategic advisors,

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Speaker 1: I would set up some parameters and have her go on.

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Speaker 1: If they violate those things, don't do it again. But

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Speaker 1: I cannot see a downside, like I remember just as

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Speaker 1: an example, and it's a little different. But ESPN's viewing

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Speaker 1: audience isn't that different from Fox. I don't think people

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Speaker 1: really I don't think people really understand that, especially when

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Speaker 1: you get to like the Sports Center hour earlier in

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Speaker 1: the day, it's more diverse. They brought on some programming

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Speaker 1: recently that's trended more conservative, more flyover country and you know,

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Speaker 1: middle aged white men. Sports Center was that time I

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Speaker 1: was pitching Kamala for Vice President Harris for a a

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Speaker 1: segment about Britney Griner when we were still trying to

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Speaker 1: get her back, and I thought it was perfect for

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Speaker 1: her because so many people who are not us don't

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Speaker 1: hear from her, don't know her, don't know what she's

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Speaker 1: been doing. And even though Britney Grinder wasn't yet a

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Speaker 1: success story, I knew that we were teeing it up

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Speaker 1: for when it became a success story and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: see it. So her team asked if she could instead

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Speaker 1: talk about Row. Can't talk about Row on ESPN? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like that doesn't work.

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Speaker 7: We can what's wrong with her? So why would they

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Speaker 7: suggest that? You said it wouldn't never make any It

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Speaker 7: doesn't make going on ESPN to talk about Row. That

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Speaker 7: doesn't make any sense. I tried to s makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried to make that point. I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a sports network, it's probably got to be sports adjacent.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was a win FORER and they

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Speaker 1: declined they were too worried about her, but she's gonna

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Speaker 1: My point is the Kamala Harris that is going too secure.

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Speaker 1: The not just this nomination, but the presidency is a

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Speaker 1: risk taking Kamala Harris, and that means she he's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do some things that make all of us

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Speaker 1: in come were like, why you do that? I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure about that. I think that's really important and one

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Speaker 1: of those places y'all might have to be in this

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Speaker 1: VP pick. So if y'all don't mind, I love to

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Speaker 1: get our polling firm in session and see every think

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Speaker 1: we are on a VP pick. What do y'all think

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Speaker 1: about that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to talk about that because what you

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Speaker 7: just said about her being a risk taker one, I

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Speaker 7: just want to quickly say, when you said that about ESPN,

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that, but it makes all the sense

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Speaker 7: because you think about who watches sports. You think about

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Speaker 7: NFL like America Sports, of course they would have a

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Speaker 7: significant conservative viewing audience. So that makes sense and it

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Speaker 7: will make sense for her to appear on there even now.

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Speaker 7: But for in terms of VP, if she is to

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Speaker 7: be a risk taker, we're having the same conversations we

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Speaker 7: did with then candidate Obama then Senator Obama and why

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Speaker 7: he chose President Joe Biden. Joe Biden was very strong

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Speaker 7: on foreign policy. He had been in the Senate long time,

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Speaker 7: he was a safe Pennsylvania white man. We're doing it

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Speaker 7: again this time. I we know the VP position is

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Speaker 7: a pretty much superfluous position. It has gotten a lot

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Speaker 7: more attention. I think when Sarah Palin was tapped because

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Speaker 7: she was a historic candidate, and now with Vice President

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Speaker 7: Harris making history as well. I if she goes with

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Speaker 7: like plain vanilla like cause, let's say she goes with

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Speaker 7: Senator Mark Kelly that Arizona's a swing state that you know,

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Speaker 7: would garner her a significant amount of viewers. I think

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Speaker 7: somebody like Basher, the governor of Kentucky. Yes, Kentucky, yep, yes,

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Speaker 7: I you know, ANGELIAU you alluded to this as well.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if that gets her a lot. Kentucky's

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Speaker 7: a solid red state. Now the question is, and I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't have an opinion on here. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 7: If she were to go bold, we know Gretchen Whitmer

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Speaker 7: has already said. Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan has already

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Speaker 7: said that she does not wish to be her running mate.

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Speaker 7: But is this the time to make a bold step

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Speaker 7: like that? And a bold choice might be Governor Gretchen Whitmer,

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Speaker 7: and I want y'all to know the Secretary Pete Buddhajedge

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Speaker 7: has a number one fan on this podcast, and it's

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Speaker 7: not me and Andrew Angela loves Pete. Those no, you

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Speaker 7: don't like him for VP. Really, those would be two

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Speaker 7: bold choices. If she's going to be a risk taker.

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Speaker 7: You don't like.

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Speaker 1: When you messed up my poll, but I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you have it. You're okay, okay, okay, weplo Andrew, do

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Speaker 1: you have a bold pick or do you have somebody

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Speaker 1: who you think, like if.

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Speaker 5: You were betting man Governor Shapiro, that's.

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Speaker 7: What you think she's gonna pick Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: I think that's who she should pick. I think he

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Speaker 3: you know, I said this when we were in New York.

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Speaker 3: I think you had interviewed him, you know, a couple

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Speaker 3: of hours earlier, uh at breakfast club, and I think

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Speaker 3: you were impressed. And when you came back, I said,

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Speaker 3: I think that this guy has national, you know, White

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Speaker 3: House presidential sort of trajectory. And I felt that way

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Speaker 3: because the night of his acceptance speech, when he was

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Speaker 3: you know, beautifully elected in the state of Pennsylvania, UH

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Speaker 3: to its governorship, he was so real. So I mean,

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Speaker 3: I felt like if through the screen I could touch

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Speaker 3: him and immediately feel relatable to this guy. Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 3: the Vice President, knows him. They you know her her

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Speaker 3: stint as an attorney's general in the Democratic Attorney's General Association.

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Speaker 3: She formed these bonds with not just him, but Basher's

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Speaker 3: Roy Cooper. Uh, you know, all these guys who were

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Speaker 3: ages before they were governors of their states, respectively. I

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Speaker 3: think he would be an inspirational choice. He's young, he's scrappy,

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Speaker 3: It's sort of you know, you sort of get that

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Speaker 3: Scranton Joe, except in a different form, but with the

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Speaker 3: same kind of pedigree, you know, you know, with with

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Speaker 3: a probably big exception for some people, and that is

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Speaker 3: he is Jewish American. And I do wonder whether or

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Speaker 3: not you know, we've we've we've seen how bad it

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Speaker 3: can get. When when when when white super missus turned

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Speaker 3: anti Semitics out loud, louder than they are anti black,

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Speaker 3: and we see what happens. So I don't, I don't,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that would feel like, but I

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Speaker 3: kind of feel like there would be enough momentum, new

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Speaker 3: energy attraction of a expanded demographic of Democrats and indefendents voting,

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Speaker 3: and they could pull that thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. I I appreciate that I have been thinking

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Speaker 1: about some other folks. I will tell you that my

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Speaker 1: gut says I agree with you on Shapiro Tiff asked

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Speaker 1: us about a bold A bold ticket, and I actually

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just don't think Gretchen Whitmer

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Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris are a good pair. I'm not opposed

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Speaker 1: to an all women ticket, but that one that doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like it. I also don't I'm not feeling Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's kind of like watching paint dry

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Speaker 1: and for I'm honest, that's what I feel like. That's

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Speaker 1: where I feel Hillary Clinton messed up in her race

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Speaker 1: picking Tim Kaine. They were so worried about not having

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Speaker 1: someone on the ticket with her that would overshadow her,

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Speaker 1: that was more passionate and you know, kind of more exciting,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's where they really messed up. So

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Speaker 1: I want her to have someone that can go toe

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Speaker 1: to toe with her, and so y'all, I have one

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Speaker 1: that's really unconventional my idea. I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is going to pass that in thirty six hours. But

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Speaker 1: my idea is for her to ask John Stewart, oh.

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Speaker 7: My lord, let's go to a commercial.

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Speaker 1: Brank. I love John Stewart. Through picking a comedian, argue

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Speaker 1: my case after the break.

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Speaker 2: Well, come welcome, well, come welcome, well, come welcome.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Angela talkas through picking a comedian. Okay, it's not

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Speaker 7: that deep. It's not that deep, but I think I know, Like,

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Speaker 7: let me say this first.

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Speaker 1: I'm very frustrated about the fact that we regularly have

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Speaker 1: to center what makes white men comfortable when we select tickets.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I can't wait till, like to the

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Speaker 1: point of your book that you regularly reference as you should.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till we understand and we see the

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Speaker 1: browning of American appreciate how much investment it is going

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Speaker 1: to take to really secure the rising majority in their votes.

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Speaker 5: Our votes, however, were.

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Speaker 1: Not quite there yet, and so my thought was, I

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Speaker 1: will be but yeah, oh, Andrew, come on, there's demographics

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Speaker 1: are shifting, whether demographics, whether whether they want to force

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Speaker 1: everybody to have babies or not, demographics are shifting, and

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Speaker 1: so my think my thinking is this, I think that

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Speaker 1: the idea of the prosecutor versus versus the the criminal.

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Speaker 1: I don't even wanna call me convicted felling, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: people are wrongfully convicted, but versus the criminal is a

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Speaker 1: very strong ticket. I also think there are some things

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Speaker 1: that this country is not ready to hear out of

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's mouth. I think she needs a number two

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Speaker 1: who can just say whatever they want to say without penalty,

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Speaker 1: without penalty. That can't be Josh Shapiro. That can't be

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Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, that can't be Roy Cooper, right, that can't

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Speaker 1: be any of these people. That can't be It definitely

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Speaker 1: can't be grit to women because now you got two women,

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Speaker 1: so there's somebody who's behind her throwing blows. And I

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Speaker 1: think that because we are in this reality show that

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Speaker 1: we can't seem to escape the credits just won't namrel,

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Speaker 1: that we might as well meet these folks where they are.

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Speaker 1: And John Stewart has been a regular staple, a true

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Speaker 1: tailer for many He's been on the hill lobbying for

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Speaker 1: efforts that I think many of American support. Even when

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Speaker 1: they don't agree a ligne on both sides of the aisle,

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Speaker 1: they found ways to agree with him on some critical

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Speaker 1: policy issues, especially around veterans. I think that might be

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Speaker 1: a good guy. And listen, if he can't be on

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Speaker 1: the ticket, they at least need to sit his ass

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Speaker 1: out here, right, you can't. It's not just sarrogate. It's

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Speaker 1: somebody who can go toe to toe in debate with JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance and call him on his stuff.

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Speaker 3: That that that would be a that would be a

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Speaker 3: what's the woman from Alaska? Sarah Palin? Uh? Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't not to equate their intelligence because he's a brilliant man,

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Speaker 3: but can he be president of the United States? Exactly immediately?

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Speaker 1: He also could win and then step down and give

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Speaker 1: it to Josh Shapiro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think he would disqualify him by a

657
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Speaker 3: lot of people, the ticket would be disqualified.

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Speaker 7: And I think trafficking and what they do is always

659
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Speaker 7: a fail to be honest. You know, like we hear

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Speaker 7: people sometimes in all kinds of dynamics, we do this, right.

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Speaker 7: It's like almost Stockholm syndrome where it's like, oh, well,

662
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Speaker 7: men act like this, and so women think the pathway

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Speaker 7: to success is acting like men, or white folks do

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Speaker 7: it like this, so black folks think, you know, white

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Speaker 7: folks water cooler, So let's act like that. I think

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Speaker 7: we have to stay true to our own principles. And

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Speaker 7: trafficking and putting like this TV star and making him

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Speaker 7: into a politician I think is dangerous. To Andrew's point,

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Speaker 7: he is not that is not necessarily somebody I want

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Speaker 7: engaging with foreign powers on a global stage. I don't

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Speaker 7: know what his understanding of foreign policy is. I don't

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Speaker 7: know if he's ready to navigate budgets and you know

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Speaker 7: how we allocate federal funding for what's happening in the

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Speaker 7: rise of the Global South and you know, NATO and

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Speaker 7: all the various things. So I would not choose John Stewart.

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Speaker 7: I think he would make an amazing surrogate. And I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, we have to remember she would be commander

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Speaker 7: in chief. The person who who she picks is VP

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Speaker 7: to me, is not as important. I think it's you know,

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Speaker 7: comes down to what people consider. It's who is gonna

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Speaker 7: be the best person to help get out votes and

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Speaker 7: help her win. And I don't know that that matters

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Speaker 7: as much in this particular election. I could be wrong,

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Speaker 7: and I'm opening y'all disagreeing with me. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if we have any viewer questions to speak to that.

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Speaker 7: But I'd be up for disagreement here if I'm sometimes.

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Speaker 7: You know, I was telling Angela as we were. I

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Speaker 7: don't evenmember what we were disagreeing about, Angela, but I

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Speaker 7: was telling Angela I disagree with her on something, and

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Speaker 7: I was like, but look it had somebody come to

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Speaker 7: me twenty years ago and say, oh, I had this

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Speaker 7: idea where it's gonna be an app, right, and you

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Speaker 7: can just ask people for rides, you know, like you

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Speaker 7: just click a button. And I'm like, you're gonna give

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Speaker 7: strangers your address and get in a car with a

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Speaker 7: stranger that I don't make no sense to them. Or

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Speaker 7: I have an idea where it's gonna be a platform

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Speaker 7: and you can like share your thoughts like one hundred

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Speaker 7: twenty one hundred and forty characters at a time. It's like, well,

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Speaker 7: that's dumb, Like why can't I just email you or

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Speaker 7: text you? So I may not always be the visionary here,

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Speaker 7: but I don't think John Stewart is it for me?

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to know who gives y'all that kind

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Speaker 1: of excitement I got excited about nobody.

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Speaker 7: Nobody gives she gives Mebeth Lawn.

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Speaker 3: I really like Elizabeth, But I think with VP choices,

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Speaker 3: what people are really measuring is do they meet the

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Speaker 3: fitness tests? Like what you the reason why they went

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Speaker 3: with a Cane if you were a Hillary, is she

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Speaker 3: needed this safe, warm blanket of a white man and

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Speaker 3: all he needed to be was taller. But he was

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Speaker 3: from Virginia, so it worked.

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Speaker 1: But but, but, and.

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Speaker 3: People don't come up with these visions of I've got

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Speaker 3: to capitulate to be like what folks would consider acceptable.

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Speaker 3: They get there because we know what the winning and

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Speaker 3: the lost history is. If every time you see example

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Speaker 3: before you the you want to be the mayor, but

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Speaker 3: every mayor you've seen is white and a lawyer, and

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Speaker 3: dress as well, and da da d da da. You're

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Speaker 3: going to comport yourself in that way? You don't, You

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Speaker 3: can't you the white man thing, but you can dress

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Speaker 3: yourself up because it looks like it looks like the

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Speaker 3: recipe for what's required to get where you're trying to go.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it is a overwhelming sort of

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Speaker 3: let me bow down to you know, white folks and

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Speaker 3: white men in order to achieve my future. I think

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Speaker 3: it is what has won who's been winning? And how

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Speaker 3: do I win? And you pull pages from the folks

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Speaker 3: who have been been at the helm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's changing quick. And here's the other

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Speaker 1: thing that's changing quick. Now. She's got to have a

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Speaker 1: new campaign slogan, Nick, do we have any video of

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Speaker 1: her saying We're not going back.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump intends to cut Social Security and Medicare. He

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Speaker 4: intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations

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Speaker 4: and make working families foot the bill. They intend to

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Speaker 4: end the Affordable Care Act. Take us back then to

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Speaker 4: a time when insurance companies have the power to deny

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Speaker 4: people with.

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Speaker 1: Pre existing conditions.

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Speaker 4: America has tried these failed economic policies before.

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Speaker 5: But we are not going back.

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Speaker 3: They're not going back. I think is going to stir

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Speaker 3: visions of race and the sort of how do you

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Speaker 3: say the historic nature of the race a black woman

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Speaker 3: and a woman period. And I think we have to

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Speaker 3: be we have to be acutely aware of how people,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people within our own party, mostly white,

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Speaker 3: in the white liberal group is how I would describe them,

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Speaker 3: are all very touchy feely about race and things that

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Speaker 3: caused them to feel like the outside and the other.

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Speaker 3: And I know that we're not trying to reduce ourselves

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Speaker 3: and lure ourselves to fit where people are, But I

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Speaker 3: just want us to be aware of those those biases

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Speaker 3: that sit in the back of our head that we're

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Speaker 3: not gonna give voice to because we know what that means, Hello, canceled.

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Speaker 3: But those voices are driving our decision making. You go

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Speaker 3: into booth and you're making a decision that hasn't even

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Speaker 3: hasn't even pricked your fue brain. Your your biases are

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Speaker 3: deciding for you. And I just think we want her

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Speaker 3: to be evaluated on the quality, uh in the strength

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Speaker 3: of the job she's done, when she's exhibited what she

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Speaker 3: will do her vision, and I think for a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of us, we're gonna be there for a lot

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Speaker 3: of other reasons to add to it, But that ain't

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Speaker 3: gonna be what gets everybody in the yes column. In fact,

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Speaker 3: it could drive a lot of people to the.

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Speaker 1: No, we're not going back. That you think is that negative?

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's negative. I think it it elicits

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Speaker 3: imagery of not not what I think we want people

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Speaker 3: thinking about. Necessarily it, she will lose the value of it.

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Speaker 3: I would much prefer her go with a forward thinking

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Speaker 3: objective that isn't set next to the negative, which is

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Speaker 3: make America great again. Well, okay, I mean that's what

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Speaker 3: I thought about when I say we're not going to.

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Speaker 1: Go back exactly.

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Speaker 3: I want you to tell me. I want you to

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Speaker 3: lay something out for me that casts me forward.

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Speaker 7: Because now that you say that, I do I think

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Speaker 7: being forward thinking and a slogan that is forward moving,

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Speaker 7: I do. I get your point.

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Speaker 1: I think that it can. I just tell y'all. The

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Speaker 1: one thing that I like about it a lot is

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's an answer to make America great again.

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Speaker 1: We're not going back, like, well, where we're going, but yes,

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Speaker 1: and that could be that, but we're not going back

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Speaker 1: is a response to make America great again. Then she

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Speaker 1: can step into.

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Speaker 3: But she won't get that chance because what people have

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Speaker 3: evaluated is her whole storyline, her her slogan is in

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Speaker 3: contrast to what their guy has.

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Speaker 1: And that is what the role of a prosecutor versus

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Speaker 1: the criminal in chief has to be.

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Speaker 3: She has to let the judge, the jury, and the

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Speaker 3: corethouses take that because I want somebody who's going to

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Speaker 3: leave the country. I understand and rescue us from the

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Speaker 3: damn ditch we you know we're bringing on. I'm sorry, Angela,

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Speaker 3: go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, it's fine. You feel very passionate, as do I.

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Speaker 1: So I would just say we're not going back as

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Speaker 1: a response to make America great again, that we all

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Speaker 1: had a visceral reaction to make America great again is

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Speaker 1: not a forward thinking ideology either. It is aam It

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Speaker 1: is actually a response and or really just a hearkening

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Speaker 1: back to Ronald Reagan who also said make America great again.

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Speaker 1: We're not going back is a battle cry because we

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Speaker 1: keep saying at some point, we've got to acknowledge it

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Speaker 1: isn't it back to political war? Why is it a

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Speaker 1: political war? Because we are seeing our rights being dialed back.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has been on the front lines of reproductive

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Speaker 1: justice for trying to protect world, trying to ensure that

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Speaker 1: we actually put like, enshrine it and protect it in

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Speaker 1: a very real way. That means we cannot go backwards.

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Speaker 1: So in order for us to move forwards, I think

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Speaker 1: that we have to acknowledge the many ways in which

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Speaker 1: we already have gone backwards, the many ways in which

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Speaker 1: we have slid even further from what this country was

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Speaker 1: built upon. When you give a president immunity for criminal acts,

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Speaker 1: so I think you do have to give some credence,

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Speaker 1: some acknowledgment for what is Project twenty twenty five also

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Speaker 1: is not forward looking. It is also hearkening back. So

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Speaker 1: it's sad that she has to be in the position

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Speaker 1: to respond to the past, but she's literally running against

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Speaker 1: the ghosts.

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Speaker 3: Of the past. But their voters know what it means

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Speaker 3: to make America great again. They see themselves in that

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Speaker 3: pick white picket fence, that house the white stays on, barefoot,

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Speaker 3: bearing babies. You know, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 7: They I know it's different. We have different interpretations of it.

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Speaker 7: There's a set of voters who see that and they're like, yes,

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Speaker 7: I remember when he's being When you ask someone how

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Speaker 7: old were you when America was great, they were kids.

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Speaker 7: They have no idea what was going on, but they

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Speaker 7: say visions something. They say, yes, he will bring this

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Speaker 7: back to me. Angela's point is Project twenty twenty five

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Speaker 7: is backward looking. It is to us.

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Speaker 1: To them, it's.

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Speaker 7: Saying, here's a future I can promise you that looks

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Speaker 7: better than the one that you're in. In your present day,

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Speaker 7: so it's forward looking to them but backward looking to us.

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Speaker 7: I think you both make good points. I'm only asking

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Speaker 7: this because we have so many viewer questions. Do y'all

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Speaker 7: mind if we just get to one of them? We

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Speaker 7: got to we have so many tip you're so right,

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Speaker 7: absolutely yeah, so yes, Well I'm just gonna go in

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Speaker 7: order at the script so we have one. But before

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Speaker 7: we run this video, I just want to remind our

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Speaker 7: viewers please, please please get on camera when you submit questions. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: we do not respond to DM questions or questions in

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Speaker 7: the comments, and the reason is we want to see

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Speaker 7: your pretty faces, your beautiful faces. We want to make

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Speaker 7: sure you're real people. Y'all all know people get on

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Speaker 7: social media and pretend they're somebody else, and so we

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Speaker 7: want to make sure we're not engaging with bots or

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Speaker 7: opposers or pretenders, and so that's why we ask you

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Speaker 7: to appear on camera and we like to see you.

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Speaker 7: So this first one looks like it is from mister Will. So,

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Speaker 7: mister Will, what you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Was it Will? Hey?

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Speaker 9: This is mister Will represent a sameer with Missouri and

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Speaker 9: my question is what is a super pac? How can

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Speaker 9: a black community, get one, and if you do a

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Speaker 9: search engine search for the Black Panther Party, it shows

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Speaker 9: they are a political party. How can we use that

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Speaker 9: to start putting our own candidates in place?

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Speaker 7: I love that question. I can't do, y'all mind if

868
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 7: I jump in.

869
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: I just want to say yes.

870
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 7: I can't answer the entire question, but I do want

871
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 7: to at least respond to his question. Thank you for

872
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 7: asking what is a super pac? Because there are so

873
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 7: many people we take for granted what people know. We've

874
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 7: all worked in politics, and some people don't know what

875
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 7: a pack is a super pac or the difference. So

876
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 7: why I love this question is because it is a

877
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 7: timely one because we've talked about the role of the

878
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 7: Supreme Court a super pack. If you guys remember the

879
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 7: slogan or remember hearing corporations are people? That is what

880
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 7: birth superpack. It was a Supreme Court decision, Citizens United.

881
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 7: This Court decision came out and I want to say

882
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 7: two thousand and ten, No, I think it was before

883
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 7: twenty ten, but somebody checked me, fact check me on

884
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 7: when it came out. But why this is significant is

885
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 7: because it made corporations labor organizations. It gave them the

886
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 7: power to contribute any amount of money they wanted to.

887
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 7: Where previously individuals could only contribute twenty five hundred dollars

888
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 7: to a candidate, Corporations can contribute as much as they like,

889
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: which gave certain entities an unseemly amount of power over

890
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 7: how elections are held, how campaigns are run. And so

891
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 7: that can be good and bad, right, because you look

892
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 7: at like the labor organizations, the labor unions, they were

893
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 7: able to contribute to enormous amounts of money to mostly

894
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 7: democratic candidates, and then you had the private sector who

895
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: was able to just flood mostly conservative campaigns with their money.

896
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 7: And I would argue it's had a devastating impact on

897
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 7: our yes, unlimited funding on our politics and policies, and

898
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 7: it has been dangerous. Why I remember this is because

899
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 7: when Sarah Palin was tapped as vice president, which is

900
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 7: why I think this decision may have been before twenty ten,

901
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: it was okay, so I got twenty ten, right, But

902
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 7: there were so many Supreme Court decisions that had an

903
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 7: impact on the races. And I remember Katie Kuric asked

904
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 7: Sarah Palin, can you name a Supreme Court case that

905
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 7: has been significant to you, and this dizzy chick could

906
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 7: not name one Supreme Court case, literally had no idea

907
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 7: of any Supreme Court case that she could reference. So

908
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 7: when we have truly dumbed down our politics, and now

909
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 7: that the black panther part that I don't know much

910
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 7: about how the black people can get a black a

911
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 7: super pack. I don't know because we're not a homogenous

912
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 7: group of people and we have so many different opinions

913
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 7: on things.

914
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: We have several super PACs. A collective pack is one

915
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: of those, the Congressional Black Cocus. Essentially, a super pac

916
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: is just an IE or an independent expenditure and Tiff

917
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: to your point, you know you got the year right.

918
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: Your memory's impeccable. It's twenty ten. It was the Citizens

919
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: United case. As for a black party right now, if

920
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: you can just vote black and vote for Kamala Harris,

921
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: we can probably like arrange that, but also would encourage

922
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: you to please listen to our podcast. We have a

923
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: mini pod on third party candidates and when they should run.

924
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: I think that's very appropriate here. I'd love to take

925
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Speaker 1: the next question.

926
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 7: Well, we're gonna go to a break real quick, and

927
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 7: on the other side of this break, we're gonna come

928
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 7: back with a fuer questions, so stay tuned.

929
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Speaker 10: What is up, Native Lampod. My name is Nahim Banks

930
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 10: and I am a graduate of the Howard University HU

931
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 10: and my question for you all is why do you

932
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 10: think that the Democratic Party hasn't been investing in and

933
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 10: supporting candidates of color? In twenty eighteen, I'm a California

934
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 10: resident and I followed Andrew Gillims campaign and Stacey Abrams

935
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 10: campaign really, like religiously, because they were they were young,

936
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 10: they were exciting, they were progressive, and I really thought

937
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 10: that they were gonna they were gonna fight for communities

938
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Speaker 10: like mine. And even my freshman year at Howard, I

939
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 10: had the opportunity to volunteer at the CBC really become

940
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 10: and I did that really because I wanted to take

941
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Speaker 10: a picture where Andrew Gilli and Maal.

942
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to attach that picture here. But in the

943
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two midterms and even in this.

944
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Speaker 10: Past primary season, we've constantly seen black candidates overlooked, whether

945
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 10: that is Barbara Lee and California, which you guys talked

946
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 10: about in the last episode. We had my Mandela Barack

947
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 10: at the sport he needed in Wisconsin. Even though his

948
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 10: governor ended up getting elected to a second term. We

949
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Speaker 10: had Yury Chambers in Louisiana or Keida Bradshaw, and in

950
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 10: Tennessee can Cherry Beasley and South Carolina, and we had

951
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 10: the most black candidates for office these past two cycles

952
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 10: down in the South, and I just feel like we

953
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 10: have been completely we completely abandoned them, partly because the

954
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 10: Democratic Party and these consultants think that candidates of color

955
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 10: are in a siding that we can't win. So why

956
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 10: do you all think that? And what you think can

957
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 10: do to change that going forward?

958
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 4: Man?

959
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: I love it.

960
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: I love thee I got flowers coming to the studio

961
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: today and Andrew. These are for you, brother, just the

962
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: way that he like touted what you did. And I

963
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: think I think Tiff, I think Tiff and I do

964
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: a good job of recognizing all that you've meant to

965
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: mean to us, but also to the culture. What you

966
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: did to energize a group of young people who were

967
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: never interested in politics before. I think it's so important.

968
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: I will I hate to fact check people, but Sherry

969
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Beasley's North Carolina, not South Carolina. But everything else he

970
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: said was so good, And I think that we really

971
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: do need to have a conversation about what it's like

972
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: to build not just a Democratic bench, but a political

973
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: bench of young people of color. Again, we know that

974
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: the premise of Tip's book is spot on. There's no

975
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: way to energize a base where they don't see themselves,

976
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: and I think that is case in point. There's no

977
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: excuse for the Democratic Party not to invest in these

978
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: races where people have demonstrated an ability to run and win.

979
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: If they can get within a margin of EIR three

980
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: thousand votes, five thousand votes held, ten thousand votes, we

981
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: should be trying to figure out what went wrong in

982
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to shift it a little bit. One of the

983
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: things that I'm so worried about with the Vice president's

984
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: campaign right now is bringing in the same old, same

985
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: old consultants, the same old, same old ideas, trying to

986
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: make her fit a mold that she should not be

987
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: trying to conform to. It doesn't work for her. That

988
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to run Kamala Harris as a white man

989
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: is not a winning strategy. It's an inauthentic approach to

990
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: what we know to be the case. That is not it.

991
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: And I think in two thousand and eight that worked

992
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. They could neutralize Barack Obama and kind

993
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: of make him palatable for white people. I don't think

994
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: that same approach can work here. And so what happens

995
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: when a Gary Chambers? Will you guys? This audience knows

996
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Gary Chambers because Tim likes to represent that it's such

997
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: a great ad. What happens when you step outside of

998
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: that conformity? Is it still even if it's not safe

999
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: for you and your cookie cutter mold, is it still

1000
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: safe in that it is a winning approach? And I

1001
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: think that's something we got to wrestle with. Long term answer.

1002
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 7: Before you answer, can I give you my flowers too?

1003
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

1004
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 7: I don't have no actual flowers. Angela's holding the flowers

1005
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 7: for me. First of all, I love that he said

1006
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 7: how inspiring you were, But it's so true, Like there

1007
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 7: are some candidates who are politically ambitious and it comes

1008
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 7: across They can give you know, they can give pretend

1009
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 7: authenticity if you pardon the paradox, but when you meet them,

1010
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, like you, it's not so much that

1011
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 7: you want to lead versus you want to rule or

1012
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 7: want to build a platform, or you want to be

1013
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 7: famous or whatever those things are. But Andrew, your campaign

1014
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 7: was different. You as an individual are different, gifted, A

1015
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 7: light shines upon you, and I think on this podcast

1016
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 7: people get to see that. But also just individually, you know,

1017
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 7: when you and I are together, we typically try to

1018
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 7: go to dinner, we go for a walk or whatever,

1019
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 7: and just every I'm just saying we have a good

1020
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 7: time and you but I always like take stuff to you,

1021
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 7: a problem I'm having or issues or whatever. And I

1022
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 7: think it speaks to who you've been your entire life

1023
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 7: when people know your life story, and a lot of comments,

1024
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna put you on the spot, but a

1025
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 7: lot of comments consistently are the same way people talk

1026
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 7: about Obama in the sense, when are you coming back?

1027
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 7: We need you? How could you leave us here in Florida?

1028
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 7: Like it is like like abandon but they feel abandoned,

1029
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 7: like they want you to come back. When it comes

1030
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 7: to supporting black candidates and other candidates of color, I

1031
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 7: echo everything Angela said, and I would just want to

1032
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 7: inform the viewers and say it is the donor class

1033
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 7: as well. The donor class is largely white and male,

1034
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 7: and who they think can be a viable candidate, You

1035
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 7: saw this in Andrew's race. The media is also complicit.

1036
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 7: They summarily dismissed Andrew's campaign. It was like, you know,

1037
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 7: he just wasn't even on their radar. You see this

1038
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 7: in the incestuous media, the fact that they all have

1039
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 7: friends who works, you know, on different campaigns. They went

1040
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 7: to college with people. It didn't matter that I knew

1041
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 7: Andrew very well, It didn't matter all like that we'd

1042
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 7: know Wes Moore, you know, all the people who we know.

1043
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 7: It just didn't matter to them. It wasn't on their radar.

1044
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 7: In political they used to do, you know, their newsletter.

1045
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 7: Everybody who was spotted was like a white person, you know, involved.

1046
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 7: And so we have to disrupt this landscape and we

1047
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 7: have to force the party with a ground swelling and

1048
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 7: your participation. And I think that's what you did. Andrew.

1049
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 7: I want you to address what the young man said.

1050
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 7: I would love for you to talk about like what

1051
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 7: people like, how we should be thinking about these campaigns.

1052
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 7: You very much did that well.

1053
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate both my sisters here and brother, so proud

1054
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: of you and can't wait to see your name on

1055
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: a ballot. It's heading there and not because you present well,

1056
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: but because the depth of what you had to say

1057
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: clearly demonstrates that you are genuinely and passionately concerned and

1058
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: interested and the community that grows up around you, you

1059
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: want to shape it. And you know what, I wish

1060
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: more people who say that they were interested in public

1061
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: service got into it stealed by the knowing that what

1062
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: they intend to do is to shape the future. I

1063
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: can't stand the folks who say the poll numbers say

1064
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: such and such and such and such, so I should

1065
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: ghost go of in the corner and die because you

1066
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: told me I'm fifth out of fifth the week before

1067
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 3: election day, but I came number one out of five.

1068
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: Come on. And so it used to be that great

1069
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: leaders would shape public opinion, and the polls taken after

1070
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: that will result and what they're resulted in because they

1071
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: were shaped by somebody who had the courage to stand

1072
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 3: up and say what it is that they think that

1073
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: they believe, and trust that on the listening end, that

1074
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: there might be a person who sees you and hears

1075
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: you clearly and can relate to what it is that

1076
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: you have to say. They're never going to give us

1077
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 3: equal footing. The ruler by which the rest of us

1078
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: are measured is the decades, years, centuries of the white

1079
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: men who have come before and held those positions before.

1080
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: So we're not going to win there. Even the way

1081
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Speaker 3: they cover us. They want to talk about my brother's

1082
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: criminal history, but they want to talk about the other

1083
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: guy's business that he started, you know, at the age

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Speaker 3: of five with a million dollar loan from hers his

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00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: daddy that they omitted. So to Angela's point around, when

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00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: do we get measured for who we are rather than

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00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: how well we can capitulate to what the majority, the

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00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 3: ruling class has to do and say. And I think

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00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: it's in this space of running for office, being of

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00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: public service where you have to throw the rule book out.

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00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: If you're waiting for the invitation, it'll never come if

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: you want it. Waiting for the boardroom a meeting, whien

1093
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: you get called in, it's not happening. Bring your fold

1094
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: in chair, or sit against the wall on the floor.

1095
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: They're not going to invite us into those spaces. And

1096
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 3: so what do we do. Hell, we create our own.

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: And when people get to see us, not the bourgeoisie

1098
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: and the ruling class, but when people get to see you,

1099
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: and they get to see your heart and they get

1100
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: to understand the relatability of it, and that you care

1101
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: just like daycare, and that you put one leg through

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: the pants just like he does or she does. And

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: people are hungry for that. That's why. And I hate

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00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: to say it, but you have so many nimrods on

1105
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: the right who are willing to take Donald Trump as

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: he is because he is the same low life that

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Speaker 3: they are.

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, that's one.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that there is a group of people

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00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 3: who don't want a president who's better.

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: Yes, they want is it.

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Speaker 3: Who resembles their life, and he gives that to them,

1113
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: even if it's a made up, tunched up story. With

1114
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: the exception of his of his latest record.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say, Andrew, I really appreciate what

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: you're saying. I think that this is a great time

1117
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: to slightly pivot to something very solemn and somber. Speaking

1118
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: of low lifes, Donald Trump, as you all know, has

1119
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: said that if it's up to him, when he is

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Speaker 1: president of the United States, he will grant police officers

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Speaker 1: law enforcement immunity. And we just bore witness to the

1122
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: tragic murder of Sonya Massey in Springfield, Illinois, she was

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00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: holding a pot of water. She was told to turn

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00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: the stove off so that the pot didn't boil over

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00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: by a sheriff's deputy, and as she put that pot down,

1126
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Speaker 1: she was shot and killed. She was shot in the face.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about that story, you guys, and

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Speaker 1: what is promised, there are so many others. It's so

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Speaker 1: unfortunate that we can just erase Sonya's name and put

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Speaker 1: in somebody else's, and erase that name and put in

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: someone else's. Time and time. It is as old as history.

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: It is as long a story as vigilantes chasing after

1133
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: enslaved people who escaped. There is a reason we know

1134
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Speaker 1: in our souls that qualified immunity does not belong in

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: the hands of police officers. They should have to face

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01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: account for what they've done wrong when they've but when

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01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: they commit murder, they should have to face accountability. This

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Speaker 1: story is one that's resting heavy on me, y'all. I

1139
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Speaker 1: described what happened because I can't bear. I'm just being

1140
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Speaker 1: honest with our audience. I've not watched the video. I can't.

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 1: I can't. I refuse to look at it. We talked

1142
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: about this a little bit, but I just want to

1143
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: pause here and just acknowledge to my Frank Quentin Morris,

1144
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: who is Sonya's cousin and flagged this for me last week,

1145
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: and so I just want to thank him for his

1146
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: courage and sharing her story in the midst of their

1147
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: family's grief.

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Speaker 7: And she called the police, ye, she called for help.

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 7: I did watch the video, not intentionally. It was played

1150
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 7: on CNN one morning and I saw it, and I

1151
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 7: just you know, the only thing I can say that

1152
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 7: body cams have done is given us a better view

1153
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 7: of us being murdered. That's not the issue, you know.

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 7: It really is just a workforce development issue when it

1155
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 7: comes to police officers and their training. It is a

1156
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 7: changing hearts and minds issue to be able to see

1157
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 7: us as human beings, which still unfortunately doesn't happen. And

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01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 7: it's a funding issue, know, to have better support services

1159
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 7: for when these types of calls are made. But it

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01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 7: is Angela. You're right not to watch it because you

1161
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 7: can't unsee it once you watch it. But what I

1162
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 7: remember most is, you know, I live in the inner city,

1163
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 7: in downtown, and what I remember thinking is I would

1164
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 7: be afraid to call the police even if there was

1165
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 7: an intruder in my house. I don't know who I

1166
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 7: would fear more, I would feel completely alone and open

1167
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 7: and violated essentially. So this is the reality that we

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 7: face as black people. Black women sometimes get left out

1169
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 7: of the conversation when it comes to police brutality. But

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 7: we've sadly seen from Sandra Bland to do we remember

1171
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 7: the woman's name, who the neighbor came over. This wasn't

1172
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 7: a police shooting, but her neighbor came over and shot her.

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Speaker 7: This was last summer Angel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was, oh my god, sad.

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Speaker 7: But the whole point that you can't remember. The sad

1176
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 7: part is there are so many There are so many.

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Speaker 6: We are.

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Speaker 3: About you know, we weren't lost to the stories. It

1179
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: was the technology just helped put it out there for

1180
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: the rest of the world. But I have to tell you,

1181
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: and it's so sad that it has to go this way.

1182
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: But oftentimes the images have to be put out there

1183
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: so that the other community gets to get a sense

1184
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 3: of the inhumanity that's visited upon us day in and

1185
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: day out. Maybe Til didn't want to have to put

1186
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: her baby on the front page of the newspaper. She

1187
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: had to endure and re endure that trauma so that

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 3: the silent folks could say and do something different. And

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Speaker 3: that's often the story for us, that the imagery has

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01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: to happen and the rewounding you know comes with it,

1191
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 3: that comes with it has to be suffered so that

1192
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: those the discontent, the uninterested, now they got to watch.

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Speaker 6: And the.

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Speaker 7: Good I'm sorry, well, I was just gonna say that

1195
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 7: Edmund Patti's Bridge. When when the white community saw police

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01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 7: on horseback run down pregnant women, run down children, turn

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 7: their dogs and holes. It wasn't just black men, and

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Speaker 7: that's tragic enough, but they literally saw these people like

1199
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 7: they were not animals, and white people across the country said, oh, well,

1200
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 7: this can't be us. We have to do something about this.

1201
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 7: So sometimes there is something putting that imagery out there.

1202
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 7: But I get Angelo's point that we are re traumatized

1203
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 7: the time as happens and having to bear witness to it,

1204
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 7: So I get it.

1205
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: I did want to ask you all, given what we

1206
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: know happened with George Floyd, and when people had to

1207
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: watch and couldn't look away, do you think that it's

1208
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: worth it to show people on our podcast the video

1209
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: of Sean Grayson feeling son, you're massy.

1210
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 7: No, I don't think well, especially Angel, because you said

1211
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 7: you've been avoiding it, like you've gone out of your way, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm a out of the room.

1213
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 7: But we shouldn't. If you feel that song about I mean,

1214
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 7: I just I don't think it's where there may If

1215
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 7: you feel that way, that means ten thousand others, you know.

1216
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: And I feel torn because I heard what Andrew said

1217
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: about made till you know. I know that there is

1218
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: something that is important about witnessing our death. I can't

1219
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: wait until that same passion. It's just for our ability

1220
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: to live. But it's not here right now. It's like

1221
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: it has to our trauma, our death has to be

1222
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: witnessed for our humanity to be validated.

1223
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Speaker 3: That's it.

1224
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: That's it, and so that's why I'm saying, if I

1225
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: have to step out so that we might preserve the

1226
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: life of one more, I'll do that.

1227
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Speaker 7: No, I think people if people want to see it,

1228
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 7: they know how to see it. You know, information's at

1229
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 7: your fingertips. I don't think we need to take our time.

1230
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 7: I think if it offends or upsets one, it offends

1231
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 7: or upsets all. And as co hosts. We should just say, okay,

1232
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 7: we've just bribe what happened. People can go see it.

1233
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 7: They they know, you know, we've seen this time and

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01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 7: time again. And I, you know, Angel, I didn't think

1235
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 7: about this deeply. I probably need to give you some

1236
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 7: more thought. But there was some trauma that I definitely

1237
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 7: carried with me after twenty twenty, like after COVID, after

1238
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 7: the unrest in all the communities after because George Floyd

1239
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 7: was not the only person, like we saw time and

1240
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 7: again reality, Yeah, exactly exactly. It was just two.

1241
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Speaker 3: Days before him the New York Times Central Central Park

1242
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: where the neighbor goes Karen on the man and the yeah,

1243
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: the birdwise, So.

1244
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: It didn't you know in my home, I'm in Washington State,

1245
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, my hometown. Sorry, really quick, outside right outside

1246
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: of my hometown is an area called Tacoma. Manny Ellis

1247
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: was also shy and killed or killed in the same

1248
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: way as George Floyd. Right, So like we literally we

1249
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: cannot as a geographically, we can't escape it after we

1250
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: reach a certain age. We can't escape it by gender,

1251
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, we can't escape it. Because you live in

1252
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: a progressive area. You know, you cannot escape the whatever

1253
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: racism and supremacy is ingrained in training or the lack thereof,

1254
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: because they want to spend more money on training and equipment,

1255
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: we cannot escape it. And so there needs to be

1256
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: someplace where we are fully liberated and allowed to thrive.

1257
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: We need to have some type of law enforcement that

1258
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: truly is here to protect and serve all, not just so.

1259
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, and just for historical context, the police industry itself

1260
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 7: is rooted in white supremacy. Yeah, they swow their ranks.

1261
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 7: Because I've talked about this on the podcast before, in

1262
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 7: the early part of last century, there was so much

1263
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 7: violent vigilanteism that resulted in our death It wasn't that

1264
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 7: they were like, oh, we got to sow down these deaths.

1265
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 7: It was oh, these killing needs to be more organized.

1266
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 7: And so the local commissions that were formed essentially said,

1267
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 7: you can shoot a black person, beat a black person,

1268
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 7: murder a black person, but you gotta be wearing a

1269
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 7: badge while you do it. And that is how police

1270
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 7: units were formed. They were never meant torect protect us.

1271
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 7: They were protecting their community from us, and it's hard

1272
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 7: for us to unlearn that. So that's why there are

1273
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: so much distrust.

1274
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Speaker 3: And the further truth, of course, is the prison industrial complex,

1275
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: which is like trying to kill few of them so

1276
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: we can actually get them in prison yep, and pull

1277
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: down that that government money for forty years. Yeah, it

1278
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 3: is horrible that our community's trauma is sort of the

1279
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: deposit that we make into the well of being viewed

1280
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: for that moment as human.

1281
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have time. I don't want to shift us secretly.

1282
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 7: I know we're coming up on time and we're going

1283
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 7: a little over, but do we have time for one

1284
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 7: more listening? Just because we got so many? Do we

1285
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 7: have time for one more listener? Question? All right, we

1286
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,480
Speaker 7: got one more of you were questioned Nick Road at tape.

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Speaker 6: Greetings, Native lampod I have a question. My name is

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 6: Kimberly Archie. I'm originally from Seattle, Washington. I now reside

1289
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 6: in uh Plidel Carma in Mexico. Hey, Angela, my question

1290
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 6: is this, with Kamala Harris being endorsed as the candidate

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Speaker 6: for the Democrats, how can she navigate uh and push

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Speaker 6: forward a platform that may differ from Biden's platform when

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Speaker 6: she is still as when she's still vice president. I

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Speaker 6: don't understand how she's going to be able to be

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Speaker 6: strategic but also navigate those waters at the same time.

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Speaker 6: How does that happen? You guys have some ideas.

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Speaker 1: Love it as missus Archie. So Miss Archie, there's so much,

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Speaker 1: There's so much history, inaab Axo skiing all the things.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the two O six speaking of whish

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Speaker 1: let me do this before I forget. I'm at Converge

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Speaker 1: Media in the Black Media Matter Studio and I'm just

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Speaker 1: so grateful for them for my flowers today and for

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Speaker 1: hosting us. That's great. Now, Miss Archie, here's what I

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Speaker 1: would say. In order for Kamala to even be able

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Speaker 1: to differentiate and divert a little bit from this agenda,

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Speaker 1: and she has to do that to campaign. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that she has to pooh pooh what's been accomplished

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Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. I also think that she has to

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Speaker 1: be clear about not owning the fullness and the totality

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Speaker 1: of his record. There are things in that record that

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Speaker 1: people are not super excited about. We've talked about them

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. But she should absolutely tout his accomplishments

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Speaker 1: and her specifically where she was front and center on

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Speaker 1: reproductive justice, on maternal health, on some of the things

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Speaker 1: that she believes are accomplishments around the border. I also

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Speaker 1: think that there are places where she legitimately has policy

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Speaker 1: differences from Joe Biden. She can make those points clear

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Speaker 1: in a debate and on her platform on the website,

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Speaker 1: which is still currently being formulated. So those are my

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Speaker 1: short answers.

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Speaker 7: I love that, and I think she's gonna have to Angela.

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Speaker 7: I think she's going to have to distinguish herself and

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Speaker 7: lead with courage and conviction on where she you know,

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Speaker 7: where there may have been some daylight between her, between

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Speaker 7: her and President Biden. Look, I think you know, I've

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Speaker 7: been hearing a lot of the chattering class say, well,

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Speaker 7: nobody's ever voted for her before, and they cannot be

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Speaker 7: more wrong. Michael Harriet with The Grio wrote a great

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Speaker 7: piece talking about how many elections she's won. People have

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Speaker 7: voted for her multiple times. So she's very equipped with

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Speaker 7: unfamiliar with being the principal on a campaign. And I

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Speaker 7: hope that my wish for her is that she would

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Speaker 7: come out and not follow polls, you know, not listen

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Speaker 7: to the consultants as as you all talked about, but

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Speaker 7: listen to some of you know, the people who are

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Speaker 7: lay people you know who may not traffic in politics,

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Speaker 7: but the people who will be inspired to vote for her.

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Speaker 7: So I really hope that she does that. I think

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Speaker 7: we gotta do calls to action.

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Speaker 1: It is definitely time for cause to action. Mine is

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Speaker 1: to challenge the folks who have been trafficking in myths

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Speaker 1: and misinformation about Kamala Harris's record as prosecutor, about her

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Speaker 1: record as senator, about her record as vice president, that

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Speaker 1: you actually check yourself before you wreck yourself. Boo boo.

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Speaker 1: And that goes for folks on all sides of the spectrum,

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Speaker 1: folks who are in our community and out folks who

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Speaker 1: we may know, Like, just be really careful, careful about

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Speaker 1: what you put out there before fact checking. It's not hard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got Google, you can check your source. Tiffany on another podcast,

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Speaker 1: say you how to cite your source. Make sure your

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: sources are accurate, right, But like, let's be very clear

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Speaker 1: about the fact that this is arm's length away. Don't

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Speaker 1: just say things because they're hyperbolic. Make sure you have

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Speaker 1: the facts about who this person is. The election is

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Speaker 1: one hundred than three days away, Tiffany, and.

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Speaker 7: I'll go quickly because mine is a shout out and

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Speaker 7: a CTA and it is to my beloved dear brother

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Speaker 7: who is such a fan of both of you are.

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Speaker 7: My brother's name is dayt one, and he is like,

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Speaker 7: we all disagree on this podcast, and like, my brother

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Speaker 7: is never afraid to tell me, like yo, I was

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Speaker 7: feeling like, but Angie, that's my dude, like he was saying.

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Speaker 7: So he feels like he knows y'all. You know, he

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Speaker 7: definitely feels like, yeah, you talked to it was the phone.

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Speaker 7: But he's a fan. Like on the road, he listens

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Speaker 7: to this podcast like the second it drops. My brother

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Speaker 7: is my number one fan. He's always out there listening.

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Speaker 7: So that is my shout out to him. But my

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Speaker 7: call to action is please be safe drivers on the

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Speaker 7: road because I worry about my brother every day, uh

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Speaker 7: driving the big rig and so y'all be careful. Don't

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Speaker 7: be cutting these trucks off and give yourself room. And

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Speaker 7: if you can't see the driver, the driver can't see you.

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Speaker 7: So that is my call to action today and just

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Speaker 7: telling my brother I love him dearly and thank him for.

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Speaker 4: All I love.

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Speaker 3: That be safety real quick. Following up on Angela's thing

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Speaker 3: about fact checking. Just if you're gonna go to your

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Speaker 3: social media platforms and post abou Kamala Harris, will you

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Speaker 3: will you just do me the favor of maybe posting

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Speaker 3: a positive something that is inspiring you about the campaign

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Speaker 3: before you start digging directly into the thing you don't like.

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Speaker 3: We're not electing Jesus, He's already been determined decided. You're

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Speaker 3: you're electing a president who is human and fallible, and

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Speaker 3: there isn't a person on earth I must believe that

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Speaker 3: you would agree with one hundred percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: So instead of that instinct that we all have to

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Speaker 3: post and let our differences be known with the whomever

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Speaker 3: person in power, maybe check that for a minute, put

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Speaker 3: it on the back burner. That's not to say don't

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Speaker 3: have critiques, but maybe make your first or second or

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Speaker 3: whatever post about this race be what might be inspiring

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Speaker 3: you around considering, supporting, voting for her. And then lastly

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Speaker 3: arrived with five, it's time to work, y'all. Angel has

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Speaker 3: already given us a number of days. We're almost, you know,

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Speaker 3: fewer than one hundred days to the to the election,

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Speaker 3: and our communities are not going to organize themselves, and

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Speaker 3: to the extent that they are, they need bodies to

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Speaker 3: make it effective. So arrive at the post, bring five

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Speaker 3: people with you.

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Speaker 1: I love it well. Thank you all so much. By

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Speaker 1: the time we're back, maybe it'll be Harris Shapiro, maybe

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Speaker 1: it'll be Harris Kelly, maybe it'll be Harris Cooper. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be Harris for share. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if I'm a betting woman. Let's see, I bet y'all

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Speaker 1: five dollars. It ain't that y'all know the you gotta

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Speaker 1: five people in Kentucky, but we don't see anyway. As

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Speaker 1: we said, there are one hundred and three days left

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Speaker 1: until the election. We're gonna keep saying it on this podcast.

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