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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. No, no,

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Speaker 1: let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think we are all right.

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Speaker 3: Are you sweating?

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Speaker 2: Let me mediate? Okay, Crystal meet Carlos.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Carlos, How are you nice to me?

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Speaker 1: Are gorgeous?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: I know exactly who you are.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: You don't think I like you, No, I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think you're happy that I'm here, But I don't think.

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Speaker 4: In the past, I don't think you've liked me as

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Speaker 4: a housewife. And that's fair. That's a different thing so me.

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Speaker 4: You don't even know who I am. But I think

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Speaker 4: that you've been critical and you know we're here to

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Speaker 4: talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember anything I've said?

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Speaker 4: I think that you probably have said and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say probably because I haven't looked back, but I have

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Speaker 4: definitely seen, you know, negative comments, probably boring, not being truthful,

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Speaker 4: stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I never called you boring. Oh okay, no, no, So

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Speaker 1: it's funny because somebody else checked me before. I'll get

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Speaker 1: checked all the time, Cynthia, Right, yeah, no, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: what happens is Teddy Mellencamp checked me once when I

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Speaker 1: first was on to teeth and a pot, okay, and

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Speaker 1: she said, I got a bun of pick with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened? She said, you don't like me?

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Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? She said, you talked

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Speaker 1: about me? I said, okay, I want to clear the air.

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Speaker 1: So I want to do this with you, so as

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Speaker 1: you and I have a podcast and I give my

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Speaker 1: opinion based on the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And what I always say is I don't know you

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Speaker 1: ladies as women, mothers, wives. I only talk about the scenes.

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Speaker 1: So when it comes to you, what I what I

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Speaker 1: know for sure I have said is I always believed

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Speaker 1: that you have so much more than what you presented,

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Speaker 1: and I felt you weren't giving all that I could see.

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Speaker 1: And look, I want this is me being very honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I appreciated I love that this is good.

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Speaker 1: So I felt that you weren't living up to your potential,

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Speaker 1: and I may have criticized a lot of that, but

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Speaker 1: listen you as a person with your water company and

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Speaker 1: you being a boss chick and all that. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for it. And I apologize if I ever say anything

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Speaker 1: that was out of line, because I really do my

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Speaker 1: best to keep it to the show, but I also

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Speaker 1: respect people's feelings and as a grown as man, looking

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Speaker 1: to your face and that's why you're sitting there next

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Speaker 1: to me versus my friend of twenty years, is because

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Speaker 1: I wanted you to know that I invited you here,

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Speaker 1: not to read you, shade you, is to welcome you

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Speaker 1: to my home. Thank you, and I am happy you

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Speaker 1: said yes because you did not have to. There's tons

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Speaker 1: of women who don't say yes right who may have

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Speaker 1: thought he doesn't like me, because sometimes people on social

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Speaker 1: media college read you and they'd be like, did you

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Speaker 1: read me? I'm like, I don't read you, but I understand.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, thank you, and apology wasn't necessary. I'm

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Speaker 3: so and I think that there's so.

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Speaker 4: Much to say right now, but uh yeah, I already

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Speaker 4: told him.

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Speaker 2: We're all a long winded.

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Speaker 4: So I think the first thing to address in general

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Speaker 4: is living up to potential. I think that puts sort

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Speaker 4: of an ideology on a housewife thought is unfair because

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Speaker 4: what it's the potential that you like. And again, this

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Speaker 4: is your podcast. You're a lot of any opinion that

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Speaker 4: you want. So do I agree that I wasn't exactly

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Speaker 4: who I really am on it? Yes, And we've gone

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Speaker 4: through it through our podcast about.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's what we are. We didn't even get

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Speaker 2: to the introduction.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 2: This is Crystal Honey from Humble Brand.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to the podcast is really good. I'm a subscriber.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: They are Yeah, we really it's it's an incredible experience

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Speaker 4: because I think why I said yes it is because

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Speaker 4: I think through humble Brag, I've been able to show

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Speaker 4: who I really am. And I actually love walking out

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Speaker 4: of things like this where people like, oh that is

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Speaker 4: not who I thought she was, you know, And that's

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Speaker 4: something that has been important to me because, as you know,

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Speaker 4: as a producer on this particular show, there is a

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Speaker 4: narrow storyline and perspective out of a person that I

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Speaker 4: have no control over. And that's Okay, I signed it away.

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Speaker 4: I am married to a director who's like, this is

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Speaker 4: not your show. This is someone else's show, and you

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Speaker 4: either say yes or no. And so now this I

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Speaker 4: get this platform to hopefully change minds or not, you know.

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Speaker 4: But so I said yes. But I do think that

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Speaker 4: sometimes your takes are wrong.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's totally fine. And one thing about me.

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Speaker 1: My podcast is strictly through the lens of a producer

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Speaker 1: who's been doing this since two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what makes no sense to me about you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's have real conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because other people who watch and judge and report

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Speaker 4: on the show, I imagine I understand because they have

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Speaker 4: a very limited perspective on putting a show together. But

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Speaker 4: some of who's done housewives, I would think that you

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Speaker 4: would be able to read between the lines more.

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Speaker 1: And I think I do so in my defense, okay,

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Speaker 1: in my defense, no.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, we'll get it in there. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, this is good, it's good.

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Speaker 2: And literally leave and I go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So the reason why people, really my podcast is a

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Speaker 1: expert opinion based on my profession in this business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I see things that the average audience doesn't see.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of my opinions are deemed wrong or

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Speaker 1: my takes are deemed wrong because I know how the

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Speaker 1: sausage is made, and I know the psychology of the

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Speaker 1: women who signed on to do the show. So example,

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Speaker 1: and we can get into this show right now, and

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Speaker 1: we'll lookt to Atlanta Housewives next. I called out day

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Speaker 1: one the alliance between Garcell and Sutton, and I was

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Speaker 1: read for filth for three years straight. I said, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they don't like each other. I'm saying their

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Speaker 1: friendship is based on being on the show, and I

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Speaker 1: don't believe for one second they have a genuine friendship.

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Speaker 1: Garcel and both retweeted, reposted that I was wrong, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine based on this reunion that just aired and

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're not friends to the degree in

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Speaker 1: which we were sold, I was right. So I'm not Listen, Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm perfect. No one is right,

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Speaker 1: but I know that my expert opinion is largely viewed

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Speaker 1: from the mass is as the wrong take. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I never worked on your show. Yeah you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's why for me, I always say I see things

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Speaker 1: this way but listen.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing that take isn't necessarily wrong. But

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Speaker 4: also I think you have to also put it in

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Speaker 4: the perspective of this show doesn't allow to have natural friendships.

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Speaker 4: That alliance is part of the experience. But what happened

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Speaker 4: at the very end, from what I see because I

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Speaker 4: when the when we're not filming, and that's a long

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Speaker 4: period of time. It's eight months, right that you're not

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Speaker 4: you don't have to film with them, You're not getting

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Speaker 4: paid to be with these people.

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Speaker 3: And sudden Garcel saw each other a lot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and yes, but I do think that there's a

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Speaker 4: and we've talked about this on our pod, is that

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Speaker 4: there's just inherently like an alliance that happens just because

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Speaker 3: It's like you have to you need to find someone

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Speaker 4: But I think what happened at the end is because

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Speaker 4: of real friendships felt broken to me. I feel like

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Speaker 4: Garcel really felt betrayed by her friend, not the alliance

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Speaker 4: is broken. I think that she really felt like you

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Speaker 4: did not defend me right, And now.

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Speaker 3: So there is it's a great area.

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Speaker 1: I like you right. But one thing I will say

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Speaker 1: in Synthia time. In Cynthia and Nini's friendship started season

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Speaker 1: three on the show correct and when they got into

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Speaker 1: the most challenging part of their relationship after the Mexico

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Speaker 1: trip season six, when Niey Leeks called Cynthia's then husband

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Things were tested here and there. But

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Speaker 1: season seven is when they were divided, and that was

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Speaker 1: a real friendship. Their husbands hung out, they hung out

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Speaker 1: as couples, so you do establish a friendship. But the

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Speaker 1: because their dynamic was never disrupted because somebody did not

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Speaker 1: have someone's back, and that's an alliance to me, not

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Speaker 1: a friendship. Their friendship did not last because if Cynthia

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Speaker 1: and Belly ever said anything off putting to Rob, I

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Speaker 1: think you'll be like, now, look, honey, you're my girl

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Speaker 1: with that's my husband.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's the difference. You know, when it

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Speaker 1: don to have my back, Okay, move on from it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have your back. We're still Bessie. Look

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Speaker 1: was gonna have coffee, but to not be friends at all,

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Speaker 1: and I'm off the show. That's when I think things

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Speaker 1: were sort of like in my favor. But Cynthia will

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Speaker 1: get your point of view.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well okay, I'll just speak to I'll just speak

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Speaker 5: to you as a person, because Carlos, you were one

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Speaker 5: of my first show runners, right, my first or second

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Speaker 5: show runners.

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Speaker 1: Yes, started season three. I was a actually I was

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Speaker 1: a field producer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you were there.

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Speaker 1: I was there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the house

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Speaker 1: with you, Noel computer.

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Speaker 2: So I go back almost what ten years with you?

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Speaker 1: Longer we go back fourteen years.

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Speaker 5: Right, So what I will say is your lens is

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Speaker 5: definitely way more interesting than someone who's not a part

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Speaker 5: of this type of production because you are literally part

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Speaker 5: of You're one of the wizards behind the curtain. You

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Speaker 5: know how it works, you know how to move story,

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Speaker 5: you know how casting works, you know all this, You

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Speaker 5: have all the you have all then to the test,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So, but what I will say, you can appreciate.

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Speaker 5: I think with that you can appreciate when you see

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Speaker 5: the potential and a housewife. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: and it's not from a I was never you know

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Speaker 5: that I'm a personality, but I was never one of

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Speaker 5: of I'd never thrived in a space where it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we need Cynthia to drop this bomb.

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Speaker 2: See about that life.

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Speaker 5: You knew that I sucked at certain things, and I

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Speaker 2: Like you saw the first Friend contract. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: And what did I say to you when you did

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Speaker 5: Me and you said you'll be back next season, And

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Speaker 2: I was like, single black female. I mean, it wore

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Speaker 2: me out about that damn friend contract. Okay, I looked

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Speaker 2: like a crazy person watching, yeah, with everything, but what

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Speaker 2: I like you not to sit there? I know, not

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Speaker 5: I mean I looked crazy first season, and you know

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Speaker 2: We were a hot ass miss crazy.

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Speaker 1: I say.

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Speaker 2: That was myself and I.

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Speaker 5: Think being authentic to who I am, and Peter was

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I love about this woman

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Speaker 2: However, this got allowed to say.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like, you know, some people get their

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Speaker 2: And honey, let me tell you something. Beverly Hills is

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, come on, come on the leg bail, come

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Speaker 4: None of us would survive a day in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I agree, class for the appetizer like you would not.

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Speaker 4: My husband is desperate for me when next season, for

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Speaker 5: Listen, if you came to Atlanta and I took you

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, because we are the blueprint but drama.

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Speaker 1: I think Erica Jane would just be like the funny

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Speaker 4: She fell like okay, bitch, got a word, because I

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think she's actually from Atlanta, right, or just

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Speaker 4: Because she'd always pushed me, like I know you're from Northridge.

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Speaker 4: I've certainly been around it my whole adult life and

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Speaker 3: I stand in my truth. But in that environment.

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Speaker 4: And it's not to say that everything, as you know

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Speaker 4: but it's not natural to sit in a room the cameras,

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Speaker 4: Like I'd be like, let's just move on, but you

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Speaker 4: just can't pretend that those issues that you're talking about

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Speaker 3: That was my problem.

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Speaker 5: And for example, like we talked about Crystal, like say,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like we have an issue in a scene.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well if I'm when I'm pissed, I need to

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Speaker 5: be like okay, girl, well that was a cute scene.

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Speaker 2: You want to go have a margarita? No, I do

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Speaker 2: not want to, absolutely do not want to until we

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Speaker 5: Like, but some of the ladies literally I would get

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Speaker 5: what are we doing after?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We doing after yes, And that part was the part

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Speaker 5: Just have to say this in real life, if you

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Speaker 5: you're not going to have a drink.

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Speaker 2: With them after five minutes.

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Speaker 5: After the next day, yes, you need like give me

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Speaker 2: You give me a month. So then you're getting.

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Speaker 4: Thrown into this and you're like, Okay, you're gonna meet

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Speaker 4: what the fuck just happened, you know. I'm like I'm

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Speaker 4: like it's too much, And it was like so it's

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Speaker 4: like all I can compare. It is like if you're

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Speaker 3: Now you want me to multiply like I just wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't fully realized this moment for me yet. So

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. No, No,

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Speaker 1: We're good. We're good, We're good. I have been around

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Speaker 1: for me and listen, I definitely heard what you said about,

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Speaker 1: you know, me with the potential whatever, what is interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. And this is what Teddy Mellencamp said to me.

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Speaker 1: one more season, I probably would have gotten it. Because

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Speaker 1: Cynthia is right, some people get it instantly. Any leaks,

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Speaker 1: Kenya Borg, you know there are certain people who get

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Speaker 1: is the gag about sympon Belly Honey. Some people called

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Speaker 1: it's quite interesting that of all the girls, Symph and

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Speaker 1: Belly still on the show. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: So being yourself always tell the girls this sounds so

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Speaker 1: do understand that it's not natural to be in a

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Speaker 1: you have to talk about things that you ordinarily may

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Speaker 1: the show, now we got bows who I love, Bows

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Speaker 1: would love to get your too all opinion. When you

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Speaker 1: look at the show now, Bows, dere Erica, Kyle Sutton,

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Speaker 1: Garcel's not removed from it, Jennifer Tilly is a friend

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Speaker 1: of and so it's Kathy Hilton. Do you feel like huh?

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Speaker 1: I could come back on the Belly Hills Housewives and

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Speaker 1: bring it on.

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Speaker 4: Percent and I in the same way as like what

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Speaker 4: Teddy said, I needed the separation. I don't necessarily want

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Speaker 4: I did that to myself, your own head, in my

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of that.

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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day we came together,

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Speaker 3: But it still felt like I had to protect all

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Protection.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very I think a lot of us.

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Speaker 5: Go into it think it okay, I'll do it, but

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Speaker 5: Like for me, it was like Noel was the main one.

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Speaker 2: So I always tried to protect her. But so I

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Speaker 5: You know, when you come in with that mindset, you

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Speaker 5: trying to now follow with your husband because you're on

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Speaker 3: Right, I wouldn't have what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It is smaller for me, And I think they resented

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Speaker 4: this is you're gonna be really famous, and I'm like, like,

442
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Speaker 4: it actually freaked me out. Every time they said that

443
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: to me, I was like, I try to get smaller

444
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 4: because I was like, I don't wantnyone to see me out.

445
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 4: So I really struggled with that because I've always felt

446
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 4: very comfortable my life and I'm very comfortable my opinions

447
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: and I would call people out all day long, but

448
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 4: it's still in your bubble.

449
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 3: It's not for public consumption. So I think some people

450
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: like really thrive.

451
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 4: Like you're saying the Nanies and the Kenyas of the world,

452
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 4: like they're so fun to watch, and I'm like what,

453
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 4: I would watch all the shows to like get you know,

454
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,239
Speaker 4: inspired by them, But they're just different people and they

455
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: have different endgames to it, you know. And I think

456
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 4: I walked in because Teddy's the one that brought me on.

457
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that she put my

458
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 4: name in. Yes, I didn't have an endgame. I didn't

459
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: have like the business, a new business I wanted to start,

460
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: and I was very protected with the business. I didn't

461
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 4: we didn't show it and stuff like that. Like I

462
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 4: just didn't know where this was going to go. And

463
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 4: I think when you have that, you have the steps

464
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Speaker 4: to get there. But I didn't have an end so

465
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure. I just always felt very confused of like,

466
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 4: you know, and the girls would say, boo, why are

467
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 4: you here? It was a lot of and I think

468
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: that's if they actually had a show that really just

469
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 4: didn't edit anything and cut a show about making a

470
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: show that would be the most fascinating, Like watching the

471
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 4: girls who really are like cutthroat because they want to

472
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Speaker 4: stay on the show. That to me was the most

473
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Speaker 4: fat I'm like, who's really out to get me? Because

474
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Speaker 4: they were the show, not because they're actually out to

475
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 4: get me. They don't care about me. I'm just the

476
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Speaker 4: new girl on the show.

477
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Speaker 3: You know, you break up?

478
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: Teddy Mellcam, who we now know is going through stage

479
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: for a cancer, talked about how she brought from the show.

480
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to Teddy recently? How is she doing?

481
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Have you, Cynthia?

482
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 5: I've texted her, but I don't expect her to text

483
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: me back right now. I mean, I know she's bombarded,

484
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 5: but she knows that we spoke.

485
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: I did you know?

486
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 5: I used to fill in for Tamra for two teas

487
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 5: and then they did a couple of live shows that

488
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 5: I was a part of, I think the two that

489
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 5: they did, and then shortly after what the divorce news happened,

490
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 5: and then the cancer thing happened. So I was definitely

491
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: in communication with her with the whole divorce thing. She

492
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 5: actually told me before it was before it was public.

493
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Speaker 5: So Teddy and are good. We been in the Big

494
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Speaker 5: Brother House and I might have been known. And when

495
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Speaker 5: they voted to keep Teddy in, she was gonna win

496
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 5: to get her nut as soon as possible. But you

497
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 5: know me, miss loyal Cynthia, they can say what they

498
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Speaker 5: want to say.

499
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Speaker 2: I told her. She said, do I have your vote?

500
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Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, And you know, a hundred

501
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 5: people came to me and were like, we're getting Teddy

502
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 5: out and I was like, but I told her I

503
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 5: was going to vote for when I said, I was

504
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 5: the only one and I did the same thing. But

505
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: Toddrick say what you want, honey, I am a friend. Indeed,

506
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 5: I will rat all the way to the end.

507
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: Now I mess Chetty the day of that, I heard,

508
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 4: but our mutual friends are like her best friends are

509
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 4: like my really close friends. So at the end of

510
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: the day, like whatever happened with the show, she left,

511
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: I came on. We've really tried to maintain like our

512
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: French like being cool outside of that because it's very

513
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: toxic within. And at the end of the day, we

514
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 4: never filmed together, so we didn't have to go through

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 4: that together. But you know, we've stayed like like when

516
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: we see each other it's with like our mom friends,

517
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 4: got it, Yeah, got it? Yeah, we've really separated all

518
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: of that. And I know she's been very critical of

519
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: me on her pod, but I say that, I'm like,

520
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: you're like, I don't listen. I don't like we got

521
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: to keep that separate. If that's how you feel about

522
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 4: me on the show, great, but like I'd rather like

523
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: us stay kind of on this side of that.

524
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: Have you too? Are you too caught up with Beverly

525
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: Hills Housewives reunion?

526
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: I don't watch you two. I don't watch it.

527
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: Part you don't watch Beverly Hills Housewives anymore? Crystal? Is it?

528
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: Is it just to watch it?

529
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: It was too soon?

530
00:24:59,359 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: I think?

531
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Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean I'm really honest about it was

532
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: too soon. I'm happy to watch the clips. I actually

533
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: now search the clips now. So like that's just like

534
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: my personal progression with it. I'm not super interested in

535
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 4: it because I just, you know, have the sausages made.

536
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: I already know what they're hiding and what they're exposing.

537
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: So it's like I don't really care enough, but I'm

538
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: more interested in like the new people coming in, Like

539
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm friends of Jennifer, so like I'm just interested in

540
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: like how that's going for her. But other than that, like,

541
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: I'm just not I mean, you can't when you're in

542
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 4: this world, you can't avoid the clips. So I know

543
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: pretty much all the majors. Yeah, yeah, but I don't

544
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: the bullet point. Yeah, the bulletpoints.

545
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: Let's talk about de Reed before we get into Atlanta

546
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: Housewives and that explosive episode that is aired.

547
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: Are you team d read or not team dreat?

548
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: I love?

549
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is good to know where you start.

550
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, So I'm gonna go back a little bit.

551
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: When there first came on, they and when I say they,

552
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: social media hated her, and I was the old I

553
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: feel like I was alone. I was the only one

554
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: that was like, this woman is a star because she's unfiltered,

555
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: she's herself, she's she's like this cartoon character with like

556
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: the the way she would read the girls, and she

557
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: would she looked pretty. And then I said this publicly,

558
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I said, after her first season, I think she read

559
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: the comments and started to become a little safe, and

560
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. This season, I felt my my girl,

561
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: Durrita's back. I'm being very transparent. Kyle Richards is my

562
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: favorite housewife. Okay, I love her so much, her and

563
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Kyle this season, I'm.

564
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 5: Favorite from Beverly Hills, a favorite. Oh no, So okay,

565
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 5: just break down each franchise. I want to know your

566
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: favorite from each franchise.

567
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: Actually Humble Bragg podcast to it, because this is what

568
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: you're going to get on the Humble podcast where ever

569
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. And they also have a YouTube

570
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: channel too that I watched and I'm subscribed to that too. Okay,

571
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, get a trouble, I'll go you.

572
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: Im a minimum, apologize.

573
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: Getting nervous.

574
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: I apologize to sing at Mother Wolf. I apologize.

575
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: Did she respond?

576
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Me and her had a good fifteen minute conversation.

577
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let's good.

578
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: I walked up to her and said I'm Carlos King

579
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: and she goes, yeah, yes, And I said, come here, girl.

580
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I apologized to guard Cil at the Essence Festival, I

581
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: said King, and she goes and she accepted my party.

582
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: So so on camera, when I watch us back, I'll

583
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: be like, you can't.

584
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 5: Be like oh no, she was like, she was like, well,

585
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: let me just tell you this to first of all,

586
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: when we get the request to be let me make

587
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: something very clear for the timeline because I know where

588
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 5: you're where. We're getting ready to go with this podcast.

589
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 5: This has been on our calendar for months. We've been

590
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 5: trying to do this podcast for months, and some of

591
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: the hot time, no no, I requested the bull of

592
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 5: you know.

593
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 2: It was always both of us.

594
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: Nobody mean wanting, but you know.

595
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you know what.

596
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 5: So anyway, anyway, so when you when everyone out there

597
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: who's watching, they're gonna probably think some of the things

598
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 5: that we're talking about were like, oh, you know, so

599
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 5: that you just couldn't wait to come and talk about.

600
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: These certain things on the podcasts.

601
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 5: Was supposed to have done this one hundred different times

602
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 5: and it only worked out for this date this time.

603
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: So there's that.

604
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for inviting Humble Brag to the podcast.

605
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: We are our new podcast and we're six months and

606
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 5: five months. Yeah, they'rey excited to sit down with you.

607
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 5: Well I was excited to sit down with you. And

608
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: then when I asked my co host, my beautiful co host,

609
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 5: Miss Crystal Kung Mikoff, if she would like for us

610
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: to go as a group because we were invited as

611
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: Humble Brag, and she said no, absolutely not.

612
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god.

613
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: I was like why, She's like because he hates me.

614
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 5: And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, Carlos does

615
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: not hate you. He could not hate you. No, no,

616
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 5: he hates me. And I was like, okay, all right,

617
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: I know Carlos, So I'm gonna need you to just

618
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 5: trust me on this one.

619
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: He does not hate you.

620
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: And if anything, you guys will be on the other

621
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: side of this, if you actually meet Carlos and sit

622
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 5: down with him, didn't I say that?

623
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, because once he meets me, he's gonna be obsessed.

624
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: And I am and and but no, but thank you

625
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: for that because you know that.

626
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: Thank you for the birthday flowers as well. Oh no,

627
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: beautiful birthday flowers.

628
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: For fifteen years in real life, like yes, outside of

629
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: the show, like we're friends, right, yes, And I did

630
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: request humble brag. I said, similar to why what did

631
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: you want us on?

632
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: To be honest, I was.

633
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Very honest and this is honest to god truth. When

634
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: my friends have something that I support or want to help,

635
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: I know my platform is huge and we have a

636
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of listeners and all that stuff. So when I

637
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: saw the humble brag, I was like, we're friends. Obviously

638
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know Christal all the time. But if you

639
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: have something that I'm proud of, I want to use

640
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: my platform to make sure people are aware of it

641
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: and to really get to know you. Because one thing

642
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm able to do is extract the best out of people.

643
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: And I felt that people needed to understand that a

644
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Crystal and Cynthia podcast actually extracted.

645
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 5: The thug out of Crystal in the first ten minutes

646
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: and sitting down, Yes, come on, extraction, keep going.

647
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: It's that that Tupac is Tupac Crystal. So I wanted

648
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: to support my friend. But you know, in real life,

649
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: you know I do that anyway. But I wanted to

650
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: show the world that and I did this to Marlow

651
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and Sonya, like I anytime my girls have something, I'm like,

652
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: use me, what do you need from me? Yes, I

653
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: have a hit podcast, Like, if I can bring at

654
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: least one subscriber to it, then it's helpful, although I'm

655
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: bringing at least thirty thousands. But okay, thank you, but

656
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: thank you to for saying yes, and thank you Crystal

657
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: for for saying yes.

658
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: She very much vouched for you, and I wouldn't do

659
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: this podcast, our podcast without someone that I trust and

660
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: love and think of as a sister, like I don't

661
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: need to waste my time doing it.

662
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: I do because I love it. I love Cynthia.

663
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: And she is like, you have to go, you'll love him,

664
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't believe you, but that's okay.

665
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: I trust in you, and honestly I come and obviously

666
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: very good faith, and I can. I knew I would

667
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: be fucking with you a little bit, but you know

668
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here unless I felt otherwise.

669
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that's why I'm saying, I thank you

670
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: for that. And I don't take any of this for granted. Okay,

671
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: So my favorite housewife from each franchise, Yes, am I

672
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: only I'm the only one who's gonna do this, Yes, yes, Okay, fine.

673
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Enough to deal with when we guess.

674
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna say Atlanta though, because it's too

675
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: close to home. Okay, Okay, Beverly Hills is cow Richard.

676
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Potomac.

677
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: I already have them in my head. And what you're

678
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: gonna say, so go okay tell me?

679
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Giselle Bryant.

680
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: Did Okay, go ahead, Okay, all right, Well, who else?

681
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Miami, Miami?

682
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Do you watch them all?

683
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: By the way, I do?

684
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Okay, he is a super fan.

685
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I do Miami. It's a tie, honestly.

686
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna have ties.

687
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: Larsa Alexi.

688
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna say Alex.

689
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like, oh my gosh, wait, let me think

690
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna be It's.

691
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: A big, hard one.

692
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: It's a hard one. It's a three weeks. It's three weeks.

693
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and I'm.

694
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Being very but you can answer. Sorry.

695
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: So for the other salt Lake, right, salt Lake City

696
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: to me is an all star cast. I'm obsessed with.

697
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Mary Cosby has a special place.

698
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's special.

699
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: If I had to choose one, it'll be married. But

700
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: I'm here for Hurricane Angie. I love me some Angie.

701
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I love Bronwyn. Lisa Barlow is somebody in middle school

702
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: through college would have been my best friend. I love

703
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: a I love a feminine woman who is fabulous and

704
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck that she is and is unapologetic,

705
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: unapologetic about sitting and coach. I mean not one sitting

706
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: coach like a coach.

707
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: I'm like that's feel.

708
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Meredith. I really love all those girls. Okay, so I

709
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: love them all. But if I had to choose one

710
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: marriage Tamar Judge.

711
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: Okay, your you have a type.

712
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: What's my type?

713
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: Let him fish New York, old and New Old New

714
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: York and new and New New York.

715
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: You gotta give to be I gotta give you gotta

716
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: give it a Bethany Franco, New York New Is there

717
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: anyone else were missing? I thought we covered all the

718
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: ground New Jersey, New Jersey.

719
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

720
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: I just spoke to Teresa yesterday. I do have that. Okay, Well,

721
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: she's my friend to.

722
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Years. So Teresa July is from Jersey and Atlanta. Atlanta

723
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: is so special to me that you can't You can't

724
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: because there is.

725
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: New York, New New York, the New New York.

726
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I wanted to talk about.

727
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: Really not one.

728
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: Okay, do you do you do you think they should

729
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: not have done a toll?

730
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: You are to get is this is your opinion? I

731
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: don't like to get a phone calls.

732
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: This is your opinion.

733
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: No, the thing is this I this is my opinion,

734
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: and it is what it is. I'm struggling with New York,

735
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the New New York. I think, and I and I

736
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: and I mean this. I am loving Atlanta this season.

737
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: I am so Atlanta is back to being appointment television

738
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: because it's a soft reboot, right. You had Cynthia Bailey,

739
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore, Portia Williams, Drew Sodora familiar faces, and the

740
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Shemia somebody we were used to as well, and then

741
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: you brought new girls Kelly Britt and Angela Uglely. I

742
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: love all these girls, and that's why I love it.

743
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm being very honest. I'm struggling getting to know those

744
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: girls because and I'm just being honest, as I said,

745
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: for the ten time, I feel like they're not living

746
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: up to their potential. Oh god, I feel like there's

747
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: so I feel like And this is why I'm glad

748
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: you're here. Based on what you said to me about

749
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: how awkward it could be for a newbie to come in,

750
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: imagine seven newbies in this new social experiment. So based

751
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: on what you said, you help.

752
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that I always say this, if

753
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: they had eight of me on a show, you would

754
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: have no show. It wouldn't exist. Everyone be quiet, like

755
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: you need to have the people that really built it,

756
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: to understand it, to kind of usher girls in. I

757
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 4: think Beverly Hills is a struggle because they really want

758
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: to keep there. They don't want usher new girls in.

759
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: I think it's very hard on our show.

760
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: But I bet Kyle's show.

761
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: Yes, it is Kyle's show for sure, but she's and

762
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 4: I always give her her flowers. I mean, she's I

763
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: used to watch Beverly Hills like she was the old

764
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: I think of her as, you know, like the queen

765
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: bee of like a sorority. So I always called her,

766
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: you know, she's the house the den mother, the house mother.

767
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 4: You know, she runs the show and as she should,

768
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: it's her show. Like I totally like and I really

769
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 4: tried to work, like to do what she wanted, even

770
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: though she would And.

771
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: That's not to say she ever said that.

772
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: It's just like I just could feel she ran the

773
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: show and so like you want to like, you know,

774
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 4: follow her, you know, but I also, like I said,

775
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: I felt uncomfortable because I also don't, like, I'm not

776
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 4: an actor.

777
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: I don't know how to do that.

778
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: So one thing Garcel said in the Part two reunion,

779
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: she said that Kyle called her to say don't bring

780
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: up Morgan, and Garcel came on camera, I'm sorry, thank you,

781
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: don't bring up Morgan on camera that.

782
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Camera.

783
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So off camera, Kyle called Garcel off camera

784
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and told Garcel off camera, do not bring up Morgan,

785
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: and Garcel said on the Reunion Part two when she

786
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: she said that, I felt like she was trying to

787
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: un parapraise it but pretty much controlled the narrative and

788
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted to let me know, like this is off limits. Yes,

789
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: is that something that Kyle does.

790
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 4: No, because that's a general say that she does that.

791
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: That's a very specific situation. Like she's never said to me,

792
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: don't say this thing. So that's ever happened to me. So,

793
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: but that's what I'm saying. It's like it's for me.

794
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: It was never a direct thing when I say it's

795
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: Kyle's show. That's how I felt walking in.

796
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: That was never told me.

797
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: I would know and I would say that like Renna

798
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: said that, like this like this is Kusha when we

799
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: started it, like when I started filming, but she said it.

800
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: I believe Renna told me that in a positive way.

801
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't like bow down. It was just like she's she's.

802
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: Been here for fourteen years, like you know, like and

803
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: she's doing it well.

804
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: So this is how we you know, it's kind of

805
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: how we thought about Nini on Alta.

806
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Just about to ask you, so, Cynthia, did you did

807
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: y'all feel that way about Nini?

808
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: I did? Absolutely?

809
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And I came in with Nini, which I

810
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 5: was like grateful for in a lot of ways because

811
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 5: the path. Yeah, I'm under her wing at this point,

812
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: so she's not even looking for me because I'm underneath her.

813
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think I also felt that way about

814
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 4: Kyle immediately because Teddy brought me on and they were

815
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: best friends. So I always I kind of felt like

816
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: one step closer to her, just that like oh because

817
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: Teddy wanted me on the show, like and that, you know,

818
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: like like follow her, follow her footsteps kind of feeling,

819
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 4: you know. But no, she never I was never said

820
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: anything like that.

821
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Do you think Renna should come back to Beverly Hill?

822
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: Damn girl?

823
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: I love her? Yes? Over here, I love her. I

824
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: love Renna. I listen. I also gave her a hard time.

825
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, when she said I'm in love Rod James,

826
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, Renda, I love you, but you're not even

827
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: the Rick James because of me. That's fun, but Crystal,

828
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: that's like fun Shay to be right, I'm aware that

829
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people can take that like I'm surely saur Renna

830
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: may have been like m but but I did say

831
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: that I lovely Serena. Listen my type, as Crystal can

832
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: see based on my favorites from each franchise. Although I

833
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: love all the girls like a I like a strong woman.

834
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: I like an outspoken woman. I like a woman who

835
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: The reason why me and her work so well together

836
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: is she symth it will fight me tooth and nail. Crystal,

837
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. What's going off

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: with me and Peter today, you know, But I was like,

839
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: this is something you're going through. It's relatable. You're going

840
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: through it, it happened to you. Let's talk about it.

841
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Because I always said to her, you're here for a reason,

842
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: and my job as a producer is just to bring

843
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: out the best in you. So my intentions as a

844
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: producer are always to look at my girls and say

845
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: to each one of them, I know the specialists inside

846
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: of each of you. The way I produce Cynthia is

847
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: extremely different than Mey though I produce Nini the way

848
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: I produce Porcha, like I'm able to bring out the

849
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: best to them. And when I look at Beverly Hills,

850
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: especially Part two reunion, listen, I think Sutton is struggling because,

851
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion and your friends with Sutton, Cynthia, and

852
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I would love to get your opinion to Crystal, Sutton

853
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: struggled this reunion. She literally did not say two words.

854
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: And I think it's because on camera this season she

855
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: was my favorite hearing to read this season because I

856
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: felt like the Sutton that I knew had it in

857
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: her was that person. When she made the comment about

858
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: my wallet is bigger, listen, it's not the most PC

859
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: comment in the world. Carlos Regido King, I became a

860
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: slut in Crystal based off that comment because I.

861
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: Said, I know you was gonna shake the table and

862
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: I love it.

863
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: That's how you feel. Then this Cynthia Crystal in her interview,

864
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: she doubled down on an actet. I do regret it, yeah,

865
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: but then after reunion I should not have said that.

866
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not like because your glam team and your PR

867
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: people said, you know, like be u, So I feel

868
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: like that's who Sutton really is. I've liked Sutton and

869
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: this is my opinion. I think Sutton is a very

870
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: wealthy woman who likes to be around other wealthy women.

871
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: I feel like some people may say that's a social climber.

872
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I think she is, and I don't think that's wrong.

873
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: I just think that she it's like like like's like, like,

874
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: you know, it's just what she's comfortable. It's just she's

875
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 4: a lot of money, and so she does things that

876
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: take a lot of money. So, you know, I would

877
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: say it's like lifestyle is a big thing in the marriage.

878
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: Like love is important all this, but like lifestyle, like

879
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 4: you ought to match up with people, and I think that,

880
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: you know, she does.

881
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: If I don't know, that's all I have to say,

882
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I was like, it's gonna go bad.

883
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: I but why.

884
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: I think she She's surrounded by people that are like her.

885
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: Not a bad thing is that I'm sure people are

886
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: like me.

887
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: So people are like me. People think I'm too much,

888
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: I talk too much or whatever. I'm like, be my friends.

889
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rain like we like to talk.

890
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with

891
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

892
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: the show. But I miss Sutton standing on her ship.

893
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why to read one in the

894
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: perception of the audience, because we were like, she's now

895
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: showing people she smoked cigarettes. She's now, like, you know,

896
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: being who she was her first season. So when you

897
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: look at what Sutton is is bringing to the show,

898
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: are we watching the real side?

899
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: I think doesn't know how to not be herself, and

900
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: I think that's what makes her a great housewife. She

901
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: does not know how to rein it in. She tries

902
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: and she obviously I think, based on you said, a

903
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: good job on the reunion like quiet, but like other

904
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: than that, she really is. She's very reactive and she

905
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 4: feels the way she feels, and she it's hard to

906
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: control that in her well.

907
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: I thought it was really interesting watching I didn't follow

908
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 5: the whole season. I would see clips, and from watching

909
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: the reunion for the first time, I saw a sudden

910
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 5: that seemed like she almost didn't fit in and was

911
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: really really trying to fit in, and it was like

912
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 5: beyond it kind of felt like her friendship with Garcell

913
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 5: just didn't seem like it was enough, like she wanted something,

914
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 5: she needed validation from some of the other women in

915
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: some way she.

916
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: Need a validation from Kyle.

917
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 5: From Kyle, well, yeah, we can say basically Kyle, but

918
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: I think she actually likes to read and and you

919
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: don't think she likes to eat now, I think and

920
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: Erica Jane, I mean, I felt.

921
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Like it almost took from my perspective.

922
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: I think that she's always wanted them to she wants

923
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: them to like her say something.

924
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: But she said something on that trip they were in

925
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 5: Saint Lucia. She said something about that I want to

926
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 5: be one of the barbies. So I'm assuming the barbies.

927
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: Who are the barbies?

928
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: How in Erica?

929
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: Right?

930
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: But I say that because that's my personality. I am

931
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: a people pleaser. I want people to like me. I

932
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: want everybody working on it. Aquarius Marlowe And yeah, I

933
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: like I want everyone to like me, And so I

934
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: don't think that's a bad thing. So I think it's

935
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: like it's with someone who's really reactive, a lot of

936
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: strong opinions and then you give them out and then

937
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: but you want people to like you. It's like you're

938
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 4: trying to It's she that's that's her internal struggle, right,

939
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: Like I feel this way, but also like you know,

940
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: she still wants to be liked and I get that too,

941
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: so like I I understand that personality, like very deeply.

942
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: I'm not a super reactive person and I don't show

943
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: that I want people to live, but I know how

944
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: that feels.

945
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: That's all.

946
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: I would love to see you back on the show

947
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: because listen, I this my opinion. I think it's nice

948
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: when a housewife has a season or two off. I

949
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: think you have to sometimes miss it to love it

950
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: again or to or to sit back and be like

951
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: got it. I know, I know you don't desire to

952
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: go back, right, but I think what you brought to

953
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the show was a young woman who had an opinion

954
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: and was not afraid to express it. And I was

955
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: very hard on you like a mother or a father

956
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: is to their child. Like I know your potential. I

957
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: know you can get the age or whatever.

958
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: I know when you said that, yeah, and and and

959
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: and listen, I was.

960
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Pleasantly surprised when I discovered, based on you saying it,

961
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: in fact, that you have a multi like bazillion dollar company.

962
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm my excuse, like humbly brag about this business.

963
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I co founded a coconut water company called real

964
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: Coco thirteen years ago. Yeah, and it's I was very

965
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: protective of the brand and you know, we were dabbling

966
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: and exposing it or not. You know, I have investments

967
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: and you know, investors and stuff like that. But yeah,

968
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: that's like my real life. So it's really hard because

969
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: it's like show more of your life and I wanted

970
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: to because that's my career, and then I couldn't. So

971
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 4: it was like that's another part that made me feel

972
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: sort of stunted because I'm like, Okay, now I got

973
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: to like exploit this part of my life because this

974
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 4: part won't be seen, you know, so it's like you

975
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 4: have to embellish this part.

976
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what if you just show me the

977
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: whole thing? Is that? Is that enough?

978
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: You know?

979
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: But yes, I am a business person, I'm a mom.

980
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: I do a lot of things and yourself made. Yes.

981
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: Yes, this is my company with my brother and my

982
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 3: best friend is a very.

983
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Billion dollar company.

984
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 3: No it's not.

985
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: It's a multi million.

986
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: Dollars right we yeah?

987
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

988
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

989
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: Can I can I?

990
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: Can I be a part of your friend group you

991
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: want to be a part of you lost fifteen friends?

992
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: Can I replace at least one?

993
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

994
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, honey, they're all coming back.

995
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, no.

996
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of friendship, Cynthia, you have been in the press

997
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: all week based on the latest episode of the Real

998
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. Atlanta Housewives is fucking back, I am.

999
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to cry get choked up. I'm so

1000
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: proud of you girls in terms of the production company

1001
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: and the network and everyone involved. Is I'm hard on

1002
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: that show too, Yeah, I know, I'm very It is

1003
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: so good. I'm very hard on Atlanta for obviously, right.

1004
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: I Every week, I'm like, it gets better and better

1005
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: and better and better, and it's so good. We saw

1006
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: this most recent episode that aired. It will go down

1007
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: in history, in my opinion as somebody who worked nine

1008
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: seasons as the most controversial episode in the history of

1009
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: Atlanta Housewise. Right, your friend Kenya Moore had a hair

1010
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: salont event and her and bra Edie had a back

1011
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: and forth long story short. Some images were displayed. You

1012
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: happened to be there? Yes, Can you take us back

1013
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: to that moment where I mean you were actually there

1014
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: and I was privy to the organic friendship that you

1015
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: and Kinga developed. And you are somebody who struggled with

1016
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: having a falling out with a friend. Nini leaks on

1017
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: the show. When you saw images that Kenya displayed, what

1018
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: was your initial reaction to that.

1019
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: I was shocked, not because of what was happening. I

1020
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 5: was shocked because of how it was put together, Like

1021
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 5: I always you know, Kenya, as I've said all week,

1022
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: and by the way, this is the last time I'm

1023
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 5: talking about this because it's you know, social media looks

1024
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 5: at it like I just want to do interviews all

1025
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: day about this, and really the last thing I want

1026
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 5: to do is talk about that particular episode.

1027
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna talk about it one more time.

1028
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: And I feel comfortable talking to you about it because

1029
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: you know Kenya and you know me, and you know

1030
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 5: our relationship, and you know the show and you know

1031
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 5: how this thing works.

1032
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: So what I saw was, I figure, it's not a

1033
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: surprise that ken you would do something.

1034
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 5: I just don't think number one, she would do anything

1035
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 5: at the salon because I really thought it was just

1036
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 5: really that's where the focus was that day. But did

1037
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: I think she was going to get a look back

1038
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: or do something at some point? Yeah, But I know

1039
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 5: how smart and strategic she is, so I figured whatever

1040
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: it was, it was going to be something that would

1041
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: not hurt her, and I felt like what she did.

1042
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 5: You know, it was humiliating for brit but it ultimately

1043
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 5: hurt Kenya to do it, and that's what I was

1044
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 5: confused about her not making a better decision to how

1045
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 5: she wanted to respond, because I'm never gonna invalidate Kenya's feelings.

1046
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 5: And it's very interesting that I would be the person

1047
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: put in the hot seat to even speak on this

1048
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 5: because I actually was the only one that wasn't at

1049
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 5: the bank for Angela's things, so I didn't see the

1050
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 5: whole brit side. I can only really speak to I

1051
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: saw it with everyone else on I didn't see it

1052
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 5: in person, is what I'm saying, and it's very different,

1053
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: like you guys see a very edited clip version of

1054
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: what the bottom line is what happened.

1055
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: But had I been in person, I could have seen

1056
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: the build up.

1057
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: I could have just had a little bit more perspective,

1058
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 5: just in terms of like what actually happened to even

1059
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 5: get Brittain in that parking lot to even talk about

1060
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 5: a gun, and I was not privy to that. And

1061
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, people keep forgetting us this week they're

1062
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: forgetting that I'm not a housewife. I'm a friend of

1063
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: the show, so I'm not always around these girls. I'm

1064
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: not in a lot of those different scenes with these

1065
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 5: girls are building their relationships.

1066
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: I think because the audience trusts you, they want to

1067
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: know your opinion. But I think what was a disservice

1068
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: is that you weren't there for the size. Yeah, and

1069
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: so's her only perspective. And I think, and actually, that's

1070
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 4: my question for you. And I don't want to interrup

1071
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: because I want to keep going. But like, as a producer,

1072
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: would why would Cynthia be the you know, like, why

1073
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 4: would her opinion be the most important if she wasn't

1074
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: there for both sides when everyone else was.

1075
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: I'm very curious about that as a producer.

1076
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 5: But keep going, Sorry, all right, And I think I

1077
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,959
Speaker 5: might have an answer for that. But in any case,

1078
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 5: I stand on the fact that I don't think this

1079
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 5: was Kenya's best moment. I think that again, I would

1080
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: never invalidate her feelings. Whatever she was feeling. She's entitled

1081
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 5: to her feelings, she's entitled to her get back, her

1082
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: lick back, all of the things. I just wish she

1083
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 5: had thought it out a little bit more because it

1084
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: really like nobody left there talking about kennymore haircare.

1085
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: They only talked about what happened that in that moment.

1086
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to I'm gonna follow you. But to answer

1087
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Crystal's question, I agree with you. I think the audience

1088
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: looks at Cynthia Belly as somebody that can trust in

1089
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: terms of like her history on the show, as being

1090
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: somebody who had to have uncomfortable conversations and really struggled

1091
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: with not making struggles conversations ruined the friendship. Because what

1092
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: people don't know is this, on these reality shows, when

1093
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: you have a real conversation on camera, oftentimes I'm not

1094
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: saying that they all work this way. Oftentimes the person

1095
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: on the receiving end of the critique can feel like

1096
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: you're attacking me in front of the audience or they

1097
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: or the other side is what, bitch, you could have

1098
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: said that to me on camera, like why tell me

1099
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: on camera and embarrassed me. That's how some people may thought.

1100
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying how king it felt at all. I'm

1101
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: just saying to answer your question asks why the audience,

1102
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1103
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 5: To interrupt you, but I don't want to forget one

1104
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 5: of the comments that I read was because I was like, Okay,

1105
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 5: let me let me see.

1106
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: You know, the block is.

1107
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 5: Hot right now, let me see what's going on, let

1108
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: me see what the temperature is. And the Lord put

1109
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: me on the flight to LA So literally, when the

1110
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 5: show was on, I was on a plane headed here

1111
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: to do this and a number of other things that

1112
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 5: we have going on. And when I did the plan,

1113
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: the plane didn't have Wi Fi or nothing. When I

1114
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: said the Lord would not let me see what was

1115
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: going I was just like, let me just see what

1116
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 5: they're saying on social media. Could not do it, could

1117
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: not didn't know anything until I landed. But when I

1118
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 5: tell you, I was dying, Carlos.

1119
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: I was dying.

1120
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: But when I did get on there, what I did

1121
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 5: see was people saying, oh, well, you know, if you

1122
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 5: were her friend, you wouldn't have like checked her in

1123
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 5: that moment. You would have told her privately. Now, Carlos,

1124
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 5: you know damn well. Had I did it privately off camera?

1125
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 5: First of all, that doesn't even count because if the

1126
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: fans don't see it, in their mind, it didn't happen.

1127
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 5: It never happened. So I'm not an idiot. I've been

1128
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 5: on the show for a long time, well over a decade,

1129
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 5: so I know the off camera thing doesn't really work. Okay,

1130
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 5: it happened in the moment. If it happens on camera,

1131
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 5: it's I say it on camera, and that's that's a

1132
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 5: lesson that I will tell any new housewife, say that

1133
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 5: shit on camera. If it happens on camera. Don't go

1134
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: for the old banana the tail pipe. We keep saying it,

1135
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: which I don't even know what the banana pipe means.

1136
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: For the banana. Don't go for the peach in the

1137
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: tail pipe. But do you think.

1138
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 5: Do you think had I did it off camera and

1139
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 5: after the event, when it all came to a head

1140
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 5: to a head, do you think the fans then would

1141
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 5: have said, oh well, if you were real friends, you

1142
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: would have said it in the moment. You would have

1143
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 5: told a real friend it was like I could win

1144
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 5: for losing.

1145
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: And that's why you have to do in the moment

1146
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: what works for you so that you can always stand

1147
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: behind it. And I know you, on a personal level

1148
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: and a professional level, your intention is to never try

1149
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: to embarrass somebody on purpose on camera. You've never been that.

1150
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: I don't want no smoke. I don't hear it.

1151
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 5: Like I was sitting there, like literally watching this whole

1152
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 5: thing go down, Like, is there a way I can

1153
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: just somehow become invisible and slide them by here, I

1154
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 5: slide into these flowers and not ever have to really

1155
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: deal with this because you know, I hate confrontation. One

1156
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: of the most uncomfortable things you can do on a

1157
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 5: platform like this is have to have go again somebody

1158
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 5: that you're actually friends with, Like it's it's okay to

1159
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: go against the ones that you actually don't have any

1160
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: emotional attachment to, you know what I'm saying. But like,

1161
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 5: Kenya is someone I don't want to see this girl lose.

1162
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 5: I don't and Kenya and I've had our ups and

1163
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 5: downs because I saw that came up as well, you know.

1164
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 5: Oh well, you know they ain't been haven't been the

1165
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: same since the Girl's Trip and we didn't talk for

1166
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 5: two years after the Girls Trip.

1167
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Wait wait, hold on, okay, so okay, wait, because Claudia

1168
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: Jordan said on my on my Monday night live YouTube,

1169
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: did you did you see it?

1170
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: I did?

1171
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I did? And you okay, so let me just

1172
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: update you.

1173
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: No, No, I just wanted to just what and what

1174
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 5: Claudia's I didn't have an issue with what Claudia said

1175
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: because Claudia has her own relationship with Kenya. She has

1176
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 5: a relationship with me, you know, but we don't we

1177
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 5: don't talk, you know. I never called Claudia and say, hey,

1178
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: let me tell you about what's going on me and Kenya. Now,

1179
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 5: if she calls me and say, hey, what happened with whatever,

1180
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: I feel comfortable saying hey, this is what happened, and

1181
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: then she can call Kenya afton, can you tell her

1182
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 5: this is what happened. We did not talk for a

1183
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 5: very long time after that that trip, which gave me

1184
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 5: one time and space to to move on to like

1185
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: heal whatever we were going through.

1186
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: And that was really important for me.

1187
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: Uh and I think for her as well, because I

1188
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: will say in Kingya's defense, you know, I was the

1189
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: one that I didn't want like I needed a minute

1190
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 5: because I did not feel like I was protected as

1191
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 5: a friend in that situation. And I don't even want

1192
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: to get into.

1193
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: The Girl's trip. I literally didn't even watch it because

1194
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: I was so hurt by that whole trip because.

1195
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 5: I'm not oh, it was like a whole thing. But anyway,

1196
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 5: and out of respect for my relationship with King. I'm

1197
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 5: not gonna say too much, but I will say we

1198
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 5: went through we took the time and the space away

1199
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 5: from each other off camera. So when I decided, and

1200
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 5: it was right around the time that I actually ran

1201
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 5: into Kenya in person, because I had literally didn't even

1202
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 5: see her anymore, because at that point, I wasn't even

1203
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 5: shooting on the show, and if you're not shooting on

1204
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 5: the show with me, we really actually don't have to

1205
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: see him unless you choose to see him at that point,

1206
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: because you don't work with him anymore. And I actually

1207
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 5: ran into her at Teresa's Judice's wedding, and you were

1208
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 5: you there.

1209
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: I was invited, not you weren't advised raised apologize that

1210
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: she forgot oh my, just like, okay, don't even get

1211
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: me sorry, so to like send it.

1212
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, were you mad at her? And how

1213
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: long were you mad at her? Because you and I

1214
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: had a whole thing about that. You were not no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1215
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, you was mad at me.

1216
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: You were mad at me.

1217
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: And I felt literally, Crystal.

1218
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 5: I literally was like, I need to find somebody and

1219
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 5: get married again. So that not only you can be there,

1220
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: but I need him to be horrible and we talked.

1221
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm kicked out.

1222
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: I apologized.

1223
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 5: I was like, you did, like if I have one

1224
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 5: regret about well, I got a lot of regrets about

1225
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 5: when As you can see, it didn't work out okay,

1226
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 5: But I try not have to live my life with regrets.

1227
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: But I will say, you not being there, and it

1228
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 5: literally I promise on everything. You know, I love Noel

1229
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 5: for Robinson. When I tell you, I just forgot. I

1230
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 5: don't know how I promised. You know, I would not

1231
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 5: throw my child in this. You not being there is

1232
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 5: my one regret.

1233
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: You're sweet and what I said to her, and I said,

1234
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: this se too right. I said, obviously when you because

1235
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: I wear my heart, my sate when it comes to

1236
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: my girls. Yes, and one thing about my girls is

1237
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: we go through and we have our moments. Me and

1238
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: her had like a moment once and I laughed the

1239
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: whole time because when she read me, I was like,

1240
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: I love you so much because it was the reason.

1241
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: It's everything.

1242
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: I didn't want to but I know, but that's why

1243
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: I was everything. When I pop out, Yeah, it's I.

1244
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: Was here for it. But what I said to her is,

1245
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: and this is she said this to me, and Teresa

1246
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: said this to me, and I said this back to them.

1247
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: They both said, it's literally like an out of sight,

1248
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: out of mind situationatly like it wasn't.

1249
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: No, it's so true. No, I'm so glad she said

1250
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: that because people entered at my wedding litter because they

1251
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: texted me that week and I was like, oh, yeah, hey,

1252
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: you know what, somebody can't come, you.

1253
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 5: Know, because it was during COVID, so a lot of

1254
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: people come. I was like, you know, I have a

1255
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: couple of seats. I was looking for people to come

1256
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 5: at that point.

1257
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: Can't come because it was it was you know, we

1258
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: did it during cold Yeah, so when I tell you

1259
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: the way, you would have been on the list. But anyway,

1260
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: but it was true. I just hadn't talked to.

1261
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: You, and I said, and I said this, like I said,

1262
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: my friendship is not predicated on a wedding invite. I'm

1263
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: not that person. I know what's real in real life

1264
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: versus what maybe real in terms of like social media

1265
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: and like the world. Like I know me and my

1266
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: sister and I know that. With Teresa, and going back

1267
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: to you and Kenya, I did we Ultimate Girls trip.

1268
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: You're right, we didn't see everything, and I don't want to.

1269
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't want you to have to deal with anything

1270
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: that can cause it.

1271
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to start an.

1272
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: I want to leave that alone. What I will like

1273
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: for you to address if we comfortable, is Kenya did

1274
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: retweet a moment Ninni Leeks talked about you going where

1275
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: the wind blows when it comes to friendships, and you

1276
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: know again I'm paraphrasing, but pretty much not being everyone's friend.

1277
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry being everybody's friend, not standing for your true friend.

1278
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: When you saw Kenya retweet that, did that hurt your feelings?

1279
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: Of course? Of course?

1280
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I haven't spoken to her

1281
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 5: since the whole incident happened, but not because I haven't,

1282
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 5: you know, reached out to her. I reached out to

1283
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: her during that time, but at this point and the friendship,

1284
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 5: we've had her ups and downs. I respect people's space

1285
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 5: and their time. I'm not getting ready to run Kenya

1286
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 5: down to like try to make any kind of miens

1287
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: with her, because I didn't do anything to Kenya. I

1288
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 5: just came to the Salon opening to support her, and

1289
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 5: I was disappointed in how she handled the situation, because

1290
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 5: again I literally was just getting I had maybe shot

1291
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 5: with been in a group situation where Britt twice. I

1292
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 5: didn't know Britt, so I wasn't emotionally invested. I could

1293
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 5: care less how she had. I wasn't concerned with protecting

1294
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 5: Brit because I didn't know her. And again, as a

1295
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: friend of the show, the filming that they were did,

1296
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't even around them that much at that point,

1297
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 5: but I knew Kenya and that's why I said to

1298
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 5: I know you, I wasn't there. I'm not saying that

1299
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 5: what she did, and I've said one hundred and fifty

1300
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 5: five times what Britt did was wrong. She should have

1301
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 5: never brought up a gun. Nobody's gonna sit here and

1302
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 5: say that the woman was not wrong. Absolutely, she should

1303
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 5: never bring it up, whether whatever her intentions were or

1304
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 5: whatever her intentions were not, she shouldn't have brought it

1305
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 5: the gun. And what I also think is interesting is

1306
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 5: that I am the only one that said anything to

1307
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 5: her in that moment, but all the ladies walked out

1308
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 5: and she doesn't seem to have an issue with them.

1309
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: Now.

1310
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: I think she still speaks to whoever she feels like

1311
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: speaking to with.

1312
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 5: The rest of the cast that clearly didn't support it,

1313
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 5: clearly thought it was you know, beneath her or whatever

1314
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 5: their own terminology is.

1315
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1316
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 5: I feel like I still have seen her with some

1317
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: of those ladies. I sat right there and watched those

1318
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 5: same ladies in her interviews and say how they felt

1319
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 5: about the situation. So I don't know if she's you know,

1320
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 5: upset with them now. I don't know why all of

1321
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 5: a sudden because she made the decision that she made

1322
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 5: that it's a thing between ken and I, regardless of

1323
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 5: what happened on Girls Trip, however long it took us

1324
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 5: to get back.

1325
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: If King and I were the best of friends.

1326
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 5: Me be very clear when I say this, I would

1327
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 5: have still had the same reaction if Kenya and I

1328
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 5: had never fallen out in our lives, I would have

1329
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: still had the same reaction at the salon. I was

1330
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: disappointed and my friend I did not want I see. Oh,

1331
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: you know how long I've been here about Kenny Moore Haircare.

1332
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 5: You know how much blood, sweating tears that woman is

1333
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 5: put in trying to put that vision together for herself

1334
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: and for Brooklyn, and to see it be overshadowed by

1335
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 5: something that she could have got Britt Wade down the line.

1336
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: King has been doing this for a long time. She

1337
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 5: could have got brit we were headed to Jacksonville, Grenada.

1338
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 5: She could have got Rid another day, you know. So

1339
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 5: it just is upsetting that people are so focused on

1340
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 5: stuff that doesn't even make sense at this point, like

1341
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 5: and then even bringing Nini into it. I'm at a

1342
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 5: great place with Nini. I just talked to Ninie a

1343
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. She asked me to do her

1344
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: her YouTube show. Like I don't have no problem with Nini,

1345
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 5: and I don't have a problem with Kenya. But if

1346
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 5: I can't have if Crystal does something that I think

1347
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 5: is beneath her, that is the florable and I can't

1348
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 5: hold her accountable and tell her that. That's how I

1349
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 5: feel that I don't want to be friends with Crystal

1350
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 5: or anybody else. Are the same for you, Carlos, if

1351
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 5: I see you, if I read about something to hear

1352
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 5: about something like, Carlos, that's not it, that's not you.

1353
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you.

1354
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 5: And if you cut me off because I'm holding you

1355
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 5: to a certain standard, to a certain level of class,

1356
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 5: just to a certain level of decency, then fuck.

1357
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: Off, I will say. Not going to detail, I will

1358
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: say you and Peter definitely have taken me aside.

1359
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 5: One thousand per what be doing, and that was coming

1360
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 5: from love and protection, and those those moments never left

1361
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 5: my mouth. I know, Peter knows, and you know, and

1362
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 5: that's coming from love and protection. I love my friends.

1363
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to ever have to go against my friends.

1364
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 5: This shit is not fun for me to be like, oh,

1365
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 5: you think I want to sit there and put on

1366
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 5: my cute outfit in my head, I had to sit

1367
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 5: on watch my apps like and talk about you know

1368
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 5: what happened in that situation.

1369
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

1370
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 5: I want to go back to my hot boyfriend back

1371
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 5: at Lick Bailey. I want to lay on the phone

1372
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 5: and key key with Noel. That's what I want to do,

1373
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 5: and that's the reason why I came back as a friend.

1374
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 5: I don't want any of that druma especially but it

1375
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 5: ain't even about me, Like I literally called Australa, why

1376
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: isn't anybody else in the hot seat?

1377
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 2: Like, why isn't you're just she met at anybody else?

1378
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: You're a legendary staple to the show. And I think

1379
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: is what Crystal said. I think, listen, you're a legendary

1380
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: stable to the show. You've been on the Sheol since

1381
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: season three.

1382
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: Correct.

1383
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: Interesting is I still go back to say this. You

1384
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: were called boring and all these things and all the.

1385
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 5: Things flip flopping. Oh, let me go back to flip flopper.

1386
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 5: Let me go back to flip flopper because that's a

1387
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 5: trigger for me. Okay, So only and you know, I've

1388
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 5: had a very extensive career. You guys have gotten to

1389
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 5: know Cynthia the model, Cynthia the reality stars, Cynthia now

1390
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 5: the act Cynthia Podcaster, Cynthia to Mom, like all of

1391
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 5: the things only in this circle of friends. And I

1392
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 5: have friends like CEOs, I have very very high level

1393
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 5: friendships that I've made over the years. To be very

1394
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 5: very clear, only on this platform and this group of

1395
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 5: women have I ever in my life been called a

1396
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 5: flip flopper.

1397
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what it was. I was like,

1398
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: wait what.

1399
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 5: And it's just so sad that you can be with

1400
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 5: all the stuff that I do, all the things that

1401
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 5: I have, so many amazing things going on, that your

1402
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 5: character can be measured by literally a group of women

1403
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 5: that you all place with that you really built friendships

1404
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 5: with but really don't even are still getting.

1405
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: To know you in a lot of ways. It's very

1406
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: sad to watch and then for our own people.

1407
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 5: And I'm talking about black folks because none of my

1408
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 5: white friends called me flip flopper.

1409
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: They actually lived.

1410
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: Now my Chinese friends.

1411
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 5: On social media, for us to just be so excited

1412
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 5: to attack each other is just really sad. I ain't

1413
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 5: said everybody got to like me, but Lord, have mercy.

1414
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: Can you just measure the like? Measure like I'm with

1415
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: everything that I do. I am Cynthia Bailey. This is

1416
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: what y'all running with. She's not a villain.

1417
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 5: Can't nobody I you? I mean, if I hear oh Cynthia,

1418
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 5: She's great. She's beautiful inside it out, like I get

1419
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 5: a lot of love. And the only thing that people

1420
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 5: can say about me on this show, and this is

1421
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 5: this is the Housewives of Atlanta. As Porsche would say,

1422
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 5: these girls have done a lot before the show, during

1423
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 5: the show, and we're going to do many things after

1424
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 5: the show, And the only thing that you can say

1425
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 5: about me is I'm boring and a flip flopper.

1426
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take.

1427
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: It, take it I want to get your POV on Atlanta,

1428
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: the most controversial episode that we've seen. What are your

1429
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: thoughts based on what happened, what Kingy and Britt did

1430
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: to each other.

1431
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 4: We actually talked about it because I kind of questioned

1432
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 4: because I said, based on what I was shown, I

1433
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: was like, brit did something terrible too, So I was

1434
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 4: actually confused.

1435
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, why would they Why would the network.

1436
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 4: Get rid of Kenya and actually show the brit side,

1437
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 4: Because I said, I said, the audience is going to

1438
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: feel very divided, right, like yeah, So, like it was

1439
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 4: just for me, it was more because I think now

1440
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: I kind of watch things a little differently. I'm trying

1441
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 4: to like look behind, you know, really kind of peer

1442
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 4: through the glass, and so like I'm like, why would

1443
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 4: they show it all and then just get rid of

1444
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 4: Kenny because they're going to get a lot of heat

1445
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: the network of Like, it didn't make sense to me.

1446
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 4: So for me, it was more of just calling her,

1447
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: like what really happened. She's like, well, I really wasn't

1448
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 4: even there and we saw the one side. I'm only

1449
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: going to hold my actual friend accountable, you know. So

1450
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 4: we kind of had similar conversation, but I just I

1451
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 4: think it would have been I was thinking about this

1452
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: while you were talking about, you know, how you felt

1453
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: about the Kenya, Like what happened was like it would

1454
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 4: have been such a great moment to watch Cynthia and

1455
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: Kenya have a sit down after it happened, holding her

1456
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 4: accountable in a real friendship, like this is real.

1457
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: Stuff to be able to continue to film, to film together.

1458
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 5: And I think what was so confusing for the audience

1459
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 5: was two people made mistakes.

1460
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: Two people fucked up. Let's just call a thing a thing.

1461
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: One got punished, got punished, and one did not. Now

1462
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying the crimes were equal on any level.

1463
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 5: It was two different situations. And I think by not, well,

1464
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 5: I do believe I have a theory.

1465
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: I think that.

1466
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 5: Something, you know, whatever they want to do, I don't know,

1467
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 5: like you know, you want to hurt, you want to

1468
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 5: get to me, get my pockets and be like, okay,

1469
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 5: you can't film for two weeks, so whatever it is, Like,

1470
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't work for the work, and

1471
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 5: I'm in no way trying to figure out, you know,

1472
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 5: why they did whatever whatever, because we like you said,

1473
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 5: I think I heard you said, I heard you say

1474
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: that on your show. We don't have no control over

1475
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 5: what the networks make. If the network makes a decision,

1476
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 5: it has nothing.

1477
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: To do with us.

1478
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 5: We could have been on the picking lines and we

1479
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 5: won't get you back. And if they say it's not happening,

1480
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 5: then it's just not happening. And nor are we even

1481
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 5: trying to put us up in a position to even like,

1482
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 5: who wants to fight with their boss, like, especially if

1483
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 5: they didn't, they're not if it's not for themselves, if

1484
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 5: nothing else, you know what I'm saying. But it was

1485
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 5: very clear that I think anyone a blind person could

1486
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: see that losing Kenya was didn't help us as a

1487
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 5: cast to keep shooting a show. Kenya was definitely as

1488
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 5: asset to this cast and to the show in many

1489
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 5: many ways. And if you guys are love in season sixteen,

1490
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 5: now imagine had she stayed, you know what I mean?

1491
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: It would have been even better in so many ways.

1492
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 5: And you know, the season started out with Angela and

1493
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 5: Shamilah getting in to it not liking each other, and

1494
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: Kelly and Portia and not liking each other. But guess

1495
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 5: what they were able they had time to get on

1496
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 5: the other side of it because they were allowed to

1497
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 5: still be there and film, and I really believe had

1498
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 5: Kenya still been there, had they tried to figure out

1499
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 5: a way to make it work those laves, I think Britt,

1500
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: you know, whether you like Britt or not, I really

1501
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 5: feel like she and Kenya would have got on the

1502
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 5: other side of it the same way should me and

1503
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 5: Angela did. I ain't saying they would have been the

1504
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 5: best of friends, but they would have been able to

1505
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 5: still work together.

1506
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just felt abrupt to me in a way

1507
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 4: that like the story is not finished and it could

1508
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 4: have been finished, or don't show any of it, you know,

1509
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 4: and like the I don't know, or just cut Kenne

1510
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 4: out completely.

1511
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. It just didn't make any sense to me.

1512
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 5: Because I feel like they had to show they had

1513
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 5: I felt like they had to show what happened in

1514
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 5: the parking lot because everybody's gonna be like, because we've

1515
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 5: been talking about this for like a year. We shot

1516
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 5: all of this so long ago. I'm actually struggling to

1517
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 5: remember a lot of the stuff. But if Kenya Moore

1518
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: is no longer shooting on the show, well, then of

1519
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 5: course the fanis gonna be like, well, what the hell

1520
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 5: happened at the bank. It was a totally had to

1521
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 5: show that, and I felt like they what they showed

1522
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 5: was a very clear depiction of what happened.

1523
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: It didn't feel edited, It.

1524
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 3: Felt like continue, Yeah, personal, I think we all was right.

1525
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: Listen, I will say this. I applaud the network for

1526
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,520
Speaker 1: showing both sides.

1527
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: Yes and a lot, and I thought they were very

1528
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: fair about that, very fair.

1529
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 1: About it and allowing the audience to see both sides

1530
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: and you guys can see what happened and again, whether

1531
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: or not you agree with the decision of Kenya is

1532
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: what I said. As a producer of creative shows, I

1533
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,440
Speaker 1: am beholden to the network like the production companies, the producers.

1534
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: We don't have a say in hiring and firing. We

1535
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: can make suggestions, yes, but ultimately, the way it works

1536
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: in television is it's a networks. Is their decision and

1537
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: you have to recept their decision. And that's just what

1538
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,520
Speaker 1: is going to be. In King's defense, she has apologized

1539
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 1: for her action. She has admitted admitted it was wrong,

1540
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: and my hope is that she will be given the

1541
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: opportunity to be seen again and express herself. I would

1542
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: love to see her and Britt have a conversation about it,

1543
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: to really listen. Maybe there's room for a reconciliation of

1544
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: an understanding they weren't friends.

1545
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,879
Speaker 2: Hopefully she can come to the reunion.

1546
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 5: I think Kenya should absolutely be at the reunion, And

1547
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 5: I also, to be honest, felt like until she left,

1548
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 5: she should have been allowed to do confessionals.

1549
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: I felt like that was missing.

1550
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 5: I felt like when you pluck somebody out of the situation,

1551
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 5: I felt like, Okay, they gotta go. It just felt

1552
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 5: really unbalanced to go in the way that it that

1553
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 5: she went. In a lot of ways, I felt like,

1554
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 5: you know, when you look at the show as good

1555
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 5: as it is, those confessionals are missing. And I don't

1556
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 5: even know how like that would it would have even

1557
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 5: been for Kenya to do it knowing that she was

1558
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 5: gonna leave. Maybe she wouldn't even have wanted to do them,

1559
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 5: because it's like it's a different mindset when you are

1560
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 5: walking away from something, you know what I'm saying. So

1561
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 5: I think that would have been very difficult for her.

1562
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 5: But I feel like maybe it should have could have

1563
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 5: been an option.

1564
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 4: I would have liked to sit down with her and

1565
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 4: someone just hear her perspective, and like you said, with

1566
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 4: her and Britt, I think that would have given me.

1567
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: That's what That's what everybody was missing.

1568
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 5: And I really feel like, you know, I have my

1569
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 5: own relationship with Britt and I've only had a great

1570
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 5: I've only had a good experience with all the ladies.

1571
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 5: Britt included. I don't have an issue with her. If

1572
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 5: I did, then I wouldn't like her either, you know

1573
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 5: what I mean. But I actually don't like She's you know,

1574
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 5: been very nice to me and I think she's a

1575
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 5: great addition to the show as well.

1576
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: And I was going to say one more thing about

1577
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: about the reunion. What was I going to say? I

1578
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: don't know to come back to me, but.

1579
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: You you would like to say Kenya at the reunion

1580
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,480
Speaker 1: absolutely Britt talk about.

1581
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: I think.

1582
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: Oh that's what I was going to say. I think,

1583
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 5: And I said this on Watch What Happens Live. The

1584
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: network's vision for season sixteen, straight up and down, was

1585
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 5: they they took their time putting this group together. They

1586
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 5: really wanted to see us win with the cast that

1587
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 5: they put together, which Kenya Moore was very much a

1588
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 5: part of.

1589
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: That cast, And it's just crazy for this to happen.

1590
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 5: For them not to see it play out with the

1591
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 5: original team that was put together. And I also used

1592
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 5: the analogy of you know, it was like we had

1593
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 5: like in my thing, dream team, I got to come

1594
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 5: over with you a little friend and pop in and

1595
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 5: check on everyone.

1596
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: Between all the things that I have going on. We'd

1597
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: get to the.

1598
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and lose one of our most valuable players.

1599
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 5: We were like, okay, well now we still gotta play

1600
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 5: the game. It's like we gonna quit our jobs. Now

1601
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 5: we still got to work.

1602
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: But it's a good analogy.

1603
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: It's a great like we literally lost one.

1604
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 5: I mean, the girl is one of the Like it's

1605
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 5: like when I always I always say, you know, speaking

1606
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 5: to Edia again anytime someone interviewed me about anything housewives,

1607
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 5: because they's name is always gonna come up. And of course,

1608
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 5: you know, when we weren't talking, I did not enjoy

1609
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 5: her name always coming up because for social media, it's like, oh,

1610
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 5: you can't do anything not bringing Ninia. But I'll tell

1611
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 5: you the way, why would I bring up people who

1612
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: can't stand me. I woke up this morning and be like, oh,

1613
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 5: let me go do an interview and bring up Needi.

1614
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 5: So like, yeah, I was bringing up Nini child. These

1615
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 5: people asking us these questions, questions that we don't want

1616
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 5: to be asked, Okay, but when I'm asked those questions.

1617
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 5: One of the things I always say, and I've always said,

1618
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 5: when you think of the Royal Housewives of Atlanta, you

1619
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 5: think any leaks, she was one of the best to

1620
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 5: ever do it. She was, yes, and that is just

1621
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 5: the truth. And I feel I hold Kenya in that

1622
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 5: same regard. That's so many moments I remember being an

1623
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 5: Anguilla Gune with the wind, fabulous moment and her twirling

1624
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 5: all this stuff, like there was like some of the

1625
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 5: stuff I actually was watching season six, I actually forgot,

1626
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 5: Like I actually sat back and watched as a fan,

1627
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 5: and like literally literally I could not even believe the

1628
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 5: way we what We didn't even know the magic that

1629
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 5: we had. Portia and Cordell, Peter and I had invited

1630
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 5: them to come down. Guilla King is in the pool

1631
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 5: with Apollo Fedra's mad King is swirling like.

1632
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 2: But I was like, I got it.

1633
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 5: I was like, because when you're in it, it's so

1634
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 5: hard to enjoy it. I'm not saying I don't like

1635
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 5: my job, but I'm not saying it's the funnest job,

1636
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's not the easiest job.

1637
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 5: It's very stressful. So it's easy to sit on the

1638
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 5: couch with you popcorn and your margerite and go like, oh, well,

1639
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 5: you know, I can't believe something did that.

1640
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: If I was there, I would have did the honey.

1641
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: If he was over here, you wouldn't know what to

1642
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: do with yourself.

1643
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: I could not survive or day. And he's not a producer.

1644
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: Just so you know too, Listen, I love what I do.

1645
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: I thank God that I'm able to do this and

1646
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: do other things too. Being in the field producing these shows,

1647
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: as for producers, is not fun. It can be fun,

1648
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: Like there were moments where you know, and I'm sure

1649
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: your producers like this too, and Mike cat you SOI

1650
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: love this Crystal when they used to film and it

1651
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: was funny and I would laugh and they hear me laugh.

1652
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: They felt like, if Carlos enjoys this scene the audience,

1653
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: that means we're good.

1654
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1655
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 4: When you guys come in, it's like it's like, oh shit,

1656
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,440
Speaker 4: Dad's here, and Dad's fucking yes.

1657
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: But that's the reason why. Look, I will say this

1658
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: and I want to end by saying this, being a

1659
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: reality star is not easy, and although I am tough,

1660
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: I always gave grace in terms of like, I understand

1661
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: that this social experiment isn't normal, No, it's not right.

1662
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: And I also am aware that it's easy for a

1663
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 1: producer to say, don't care what the audience thinks because

1664
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: we're not living through the lens of receiving being on

1665
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: the receiving end of the comments, because it does hurt.

1666
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: And I spoke to nine Leaks recently and she said

1667
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: to me on her on her show, she said, the

1668
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: woman she is now, she loves the play she's in

1669
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: because she doesn't care. And when she sees people talk

1670
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: about her say crazy things today she said, Carlos, I

1671
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: honestly do not care. And she said sometimes she wishes

1672
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: she had that you know when early in the days

1673
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: when social media starts to come out, and I do.

1674
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: I listen, you ladies and men who do it too

1675
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: are very courageous because as a producer, I do not

1676
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: want to be at a dinner table with my friends

1677
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: having uncomfortable conversations. So I understand it's not easy. I

1678
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: like to be behind the scenes, like and laugh and

1679
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: smile and be like, oh, she's about to happen. But

1680
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: even me, I would be a terrible reality star because

1681
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't like to tell my business. I like to

1682
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: talk about other people's business. So I give you latest

1683
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: and props in the world. And one thing I always

1684
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 1: tell my audience is have a little bit of grace. Yes,

1685
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: have an opinion. Throws some fun shape. I love fun shape,

1686
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: throw on me. I think it's funny. But stop when

1687
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: it's to the point where you are eviscerating someone's life

1688
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: in their livelihood, and you're don't get to the degree

1689
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: where they no longer even feel comfortable because in the

1690
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: moment they are in their head like how is this ship?

1691
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: It's about to be viewed with the audience, because the

1692
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: audience does not make it easy for you guys. So

1693
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,480
Speaker 1: I just want to say that you two have survived

1694
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: a Real Housewife show. Beverly Hills Atlanta are very different,

1695
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: but it's two of the highest rated franchises, right, so

1696
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: there's lots of eyeballs. So I just wanted to say

1697
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: to the two of you the fact that you too

1698
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: joined forces to do a podcast that we did not

1699
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: see coming. I had no idea you too, were even friends.

1700
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: So when the announcmer came out me being honest something.

1701
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: Like that, No, you didn't even ask us how we

1702
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: became friends.

1703
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that? What happened? But how did

1704
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: you two become friends first and decide to do this podcast?

1705
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 5: We well, unlike most people think, we did not meet

1706
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 5: through Bravo. We didn't meet at Bravo con or anything

1707
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 5: like that.

1708
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: I was at an event.

1709
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 5: Crystal was in an event at the Peninsula and in

1710
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 5: Beverly Hills, and she approached me and introduced herself. I

1711
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 5: think you had just started season, your first season on

1712
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 5: Berverly Hills, and I don't know what season I was.

1713
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 4: I mean at that point, obviously she's iconic, so I

1714
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 4: know who Cynthia is.

1715
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you. And she just told me, you know, like, hey,

1716
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: you know I'm starting or whatever.

1717
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 5: And you know, she said that a lot of times.

1718
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm always proud when she says this that they called

1719
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 5: her the.

1720
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 4: What people would say, Oh, Crystal's the Cynthia of Beverly Hills.

1721
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1722
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 5: So, and and just to the point, you know, we

1723
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 5: are all you know, there's it's like a pot of

1724
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 5: soup and there's something for everybody, and I think each

1725
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 5: woman represents somebody does what you cannot have, and.

1726
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: You cannot have some portions. I tell people that all

1727
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: the time. On the shows I created cast I told

1728
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: producer Brent, I said, this show is missing a Cynthia Baalley.

1729
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: Somebody told me that you said that.

1730
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: I said that. I said it publicly.

1731
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 5: When you do your casting that you specifically said, or say,

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 5: you know who's going to be Cynthia Bailey?

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01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: Who's going to be that neutral person that is able

1734
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: to see things, very balanced reason, the voice of reason,

1735
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: Like you can't have somen Kyle's. You gotta have a

1736
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: little son, you know, like you gotta you definite really

1737
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: need a rent a, Like you gotta have somebody that

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01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: doesn't mind like pushing, but you also need somebody who

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01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: can balance the dynamic.

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01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, well anyway, so yeah, so we we we talked

1741
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 5: and then we exchange numbers like we always doing thing.

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 5: We never call each other, but we ended up standing

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 5: in touch and whenever I come to La, you know,

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01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 5: we would go to Selouse whatever. So we became friends,

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01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 5: like off of the show, off the show, and then

1746
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 5: you called me what six months ago or five months

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01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: ago and I was like, hey, you know, I'm think

1748
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 5: about doing a podcast.

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,839
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, go ahead, girl collage.

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01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: So she's like, but wait, but I was calling for

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01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: like some kind of support.

1752
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Like I.

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01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Was like, that's a I love that for you. And

1754
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: then she was like, but I'm thinking about having a

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: co host. I was like, well even better. I mean,

1756
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: you know, everyone like, yeah, you know what. I'm still

1757
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: not getting the point. I did not get it.

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01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, you know this one that

1759
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 5: She's like, no, no, no, I want you to be

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 5: the co host. And I was like, when I tell

1761
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 5: you it was not on my Bengo card that day.

1762
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 5: I was like wait, because, as you know me, Carlos,

1763
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 5: I'm uncomfortable on I don't like using my platform to

1764
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 5: really put my opinions out there that much. Like I'm

1765
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 5: very like I don't engage on social media, like I

1766
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 5: don't fight with people on social media life, I don't

1767
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 5: really respond. I really put my business, my work stuff

1768
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 5: out there. I don't even put my personal life on

1769
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 5: there at this point because I don't feel like social

1770
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 5: media is a loving space for celebrity relationships. So me

1771
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 5: and my new guy, we will never be I won't

1772
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 5: be posting him and he won't be posting me on

1773
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 5: social media. And that's a very intentional decision because it

1774
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 5: can be very toxic and very judgmental, and I just can't,

1775
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 5: like I really want after two marriages and two divorces,

1776
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 5: I really want a real chance to really just get

1777
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 5: to know somebody and not have the world chime in.

1778
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 5: And I feel like when you post about your relationship,

1779
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 5: you give them permission to comment because they're like, well,

1780
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 5: you shouldn't be posting it if you don't want to

1781
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 5: say so, I don't do it.

1782
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 3: But with that said, it was just a space for us.

1783
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 4: I just knew her well, and I was like, you know,

1784
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 4: the show only allows a narrow viewpoint of us, and

1785
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're just so much more than the show,

1786
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 4: and I think it'd be really fun to just talk

1787
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 4: about our lives and not have it edited down, and

1788
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 4: like actually talk about the things that we're really doing

1789
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 4: outside of the show. And I promised her, I said,

1790
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 4: this is not going to be a housewive show because

1791
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: we don't watch housewives, and it's not.

1792
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 5: We need another housewife show. Like we have a lot

1793
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 5: of our girlfriends that were housewives. They're doing it like

1794
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 5: and like we had some of them.

1795
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 4: That's where we would shine, Like we're not recappers, that's

1796
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 4: not our thing. But I knew we had so much

1797
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 4: more to say, and but I just all I promised her.

1798
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 4: I was like, this is not negative, Like I don't

1799
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: ever come from a negative place. And that's we were

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01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 4: very and you know, we had pushed a lot to

1801
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 4: be They want to see me and they want to like,

1802
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 4: that's not who we are, and like we have a

1803
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 4: much bigger life and much broader perspective than needing to

1804
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 4: do that. And yeah, then she I asked her to

1805
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 4: marry me.

1806
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, I accept.

1807
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: It, and.

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01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 3: You're on our wag.

1809
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1810
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: It took a same sex wedding for me, So that's

1811
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: why we're here.

1812
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 4: And it's and by the way, when you were talking

1813
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 4: about nine saying that, I totally agree. I think the audience,

1814
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 4: while we appreciate, you know, just their excitement about it,

1815
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 4: it's hard not to respond to it. And it's funny

1816
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 4: now that I'm off of it, It's like, I totally

1817
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 4: welcome negative commas. I enjoy reading them. I think it's funny.

1818
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, people are negative about me, I'm like, okay,

1819
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 4: ship like come.

1820
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: At me, like, I don't know.

1821
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 4: I find it fun now because I don't have anything

1822
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 4: to lose where I felt like I did before, So

1823
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 4: like I want to clap back of people because I

1824
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 4: think it's funny. And I'm like, because robab like you're

1825
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 4: an asshole, like you know, you're like bitchy, and and

1826
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 4: he is one throughout the years encouraging me to thank you.

1827
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

1828
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's amazing, thank you. But he was upset with me.

1829
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 3: He'd watch and he's like, why are you not speaking up?

1830
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 4: Like it annoyed him. He's like, you fucking at me

1831
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 4: every day. You yell at all your friends every day,

1832
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 4: Like why are you so scared?

1833
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I really don't know. But now that

1834
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 3: I'm off, I'm like, oh.

1835
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I totally see my part in all of it.

1836
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 4: But you know, you can't you can't reverse, you can't

1837
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: like go back. You just have to look back and

1838
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: see what you have done differently. But I don't have

1839
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 4: any regrets. I can't because I could only be who

1840
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 4: I was in that moment, you know.

1841
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: So now listen, I love the podcast and thank you.

1842
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: One question for you before we end your ex husband,

1843
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: Peter Tomas, as you know, has been sentenced to prison

1844
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: and for tax evasion or something along those lines, and

1845
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get the right terminology.

1846
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Don't read me, Peter if I got them wrong. I

1847
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: love you, brother. I did speak to Peter recently. He's

1848
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: in a great hit space. Have you spoken to him,

1849
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: is how do you feel about what's going on?

1850
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Or I have spoken to him about the situation.

1851
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 5: We spoke quite a bit about it, and honestly, I'm

1852
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 5: just ready for him to just get it over with.

1853
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 5: You know, this has been the whole situation has been,

1854
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 5: you know, just hanging over his head for a while.

1855
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 5: He's known about it for a while, and now it's

1856
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 5: finally going to happen, and I just, you know, encouraged

1857
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 5: him to use the time to to you know, Martha Stewart,

1858
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 5: the whole thing. You know what I'm saying, use that

1859
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 5: time to do the other things that you want to

1860
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 5: do when you get out, Like he did it. He

1861
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 5: takes accountability and he has to go serve that time.

1862
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 5: But I think in a perfect world, this will be

1863
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 5: a great opportunity for Peter to just be still and

1864
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 5: come back with a game plan because you know we

1865
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 5: have not seen the last Peter. You know, he's coming

1866
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 5: out stronger than ever. And I'm just glad that I

1867
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 5: really just from you know, someone who was his wife

1868
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 5: for eight years. Child, Just go get it over with

1869
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 5: and come on back out and and and do what

1870
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna do.

1871
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, heard Martha sear use as a verb.

1872
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: Peter, watch your documentary. Netflix is really good. It's really good.

1873
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: It's really good. And Peter, we love you and we

1874
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 1: know how you know you love to read. The girls

1875
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: read me you need no Peter knows, fine, but no,

1876
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: so Hummel Bragg. Make sure you guys is available wherever

1877
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 1: you get your podcast and YouTube. Ladies, gentlemen, gays and days,

1878
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: Cynthia Belly and Crystal. Yes, okay, love you guys. We're

1879
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: about to have dinner by so we can really get

1880
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: into it. Thank you for listening to Reality with the Kings.

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01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:52,040
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1882
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1883
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1884
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,600
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1885
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1886
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