WEBVTT - Love Stories: Kevin Mchale And Austin Mckenzie 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:03.920 Hey, folks. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.440 In this episode, our Love Stories series continues today a 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.480 couple that's been together eight years, but marriage hasn't been 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.880 on the table. Well at least it wasn't before they 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.239 did this interview with us. And with that, welcome to 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.320 this Cuffing season edition of Amy and TJ. Rose. When 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.040 you agree that as we've been going through this and 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.800 it's been a blast, some of the couples like have 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.360 a little you see a little light bulb go off, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.600 or they start to consider or think about things in 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.400 the interview with us that maybe they hadn't been thinking about. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:34.360 It's been fun to watch. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.519 It has been fun to watch. Look, all of the 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.919 couples who we've been interviewing are happy couples. They're all 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.680 in different stages of their relationships, but all of them 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.600 have been tried and tested. I think it's fair to say. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.839 And I love that we heard from Kevin and Austin saying, Hey, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.640 if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But then I 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.040 started to see them realize how much they love each 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.280 other and are committed to each other through answering the 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.800 questions we've been asking all of the couples, and it 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.160 was cool to see that that at the end they 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.280 were happier than they were at the beginning of the conversation, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.640 which is a good sign as they were talking about 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:10.319 their relationship. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.320 Well, I think we were too after this conversation with them, 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.040 and that I'm not being dramatic. After every single conversation 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.880 with a couple, it's been encouraging. There's been something that 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.480 has been comforting about knowing somebody else is going through 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.319 the exact same thing, even though you know it in 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.360 your mind that other couples are dealing with it, to 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.760 hear them openly talk about it, it's just it's been nice. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.920 And I think no couple would agree to come on 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.280 here with us, would they if they weren't solid, Because 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.400 if a couple wasn't solid and we were asking some 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.200 of these questions, that they could get asty. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.280 It's true, and that's a good point. And you'll notice, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.880 and I'm not saying that celebrity couples aren't good, but 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.560 a lot of celebrity couples won't do interviews together for 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.400 those reasons. And if you think about it, you don't 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:02.960 see married celebrity couples oftentimes sitting down for an interview. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.720 And so we feel really honored. Yeah, that we were 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.520 able to secure this many amazing celebrity couples to actually 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.480 let us ask them anything. There were no rules, No 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.560 one said, hey, don't go there, don't ask us about this. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:24.280 They just trusted us with discussing fully their relationship, the ups, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.960 the downs, the highs, the lows. And that's not easy 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.280 to talk about in a public setting. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:30.520 No, I didn't think about it. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.320 I was thinking that some of our couples that we 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.440 did later, I said, well, they had the option, they 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.280 could cheat because they could go back and listen to 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.120 the early ones. Actually, no, most of these we got 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.920 recorded and in the can before they started any of 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.720 them airing. So none of these couples knew what was 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.040 coming at them, and they trusted us to ask whatever. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.800 And they trusted their own relationship enough to know we 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.560 can handle what comes at us. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.320 That's the bigger point point, right, that they trusted one 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.440 another to have each other's backs, because you know, you 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.800 can go even talked about this with Austin and Kevin. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.400 You can go and take your relationship even to a 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.680 party and come back in a fight because someone said 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.080 something that the other person didn't like or wish they 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.240 hadn't said, so imagine doing that recorded for a podcast 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:14.760 for anyone to listen to. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.720 Do I have it right? 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:16.359 That's trust? 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:17.320 I think I have it right. 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.240 Not a single edit has been made to any of 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.800 these We let it ride, and not a single couple 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.080 has come to us and said, hey, can you pluck 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.120 that part out or nothing? Not once, So that's been awesome. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.760 I mean, we talked about Kevin and Austin. You all 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:34.040 know these names. Kevin McHale and Austin McKenzie. Two they 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.640 met through their careers. It's fair to say both of 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:37.640 them in entertaining. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.960 Yes, they met on the job, which so often happens. 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.400 You know, we might have had that same experience. But yes, 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:48.120 Kevin McHale or my daughters love him. They actually were 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.520 upset that I didn't tell him in the interview how 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 much they love him. But he, of course is from Glee. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.920 Anyone who loved that show, as my daughters did, knows 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.840 he played Artie Abrams and then Austin McKenzie, who had 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.880 a lot of a claim from his role in the 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.880 Broadway performance of Spring Awakening. He's a singer, he's an actor, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.000 so it's just it's a cool story. They're both in 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.280 the business that creates a lot of stress as well, 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.320 but they seem to be handling it with such grace 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.719 and getting stronger by the day. So they really did 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:24.280 blow us away with openness. And what we love about 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.479 the series is we talk to couples, as we mentioned, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.839 from all different stages of life. But there are in 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.120 some our age differences. There is race differences, there are 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.760 ethnic differences, there are sexual preference differences, and yet there's 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.080 something relatable about all of them to our relationship and 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.200 I'm hoping to your relationship as well. So please take 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.200 a listen to the love story of Kevin McHale and 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:53.320 Austin McKenzie. Kevin and Austin join us now. Thank you 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.600 both for being with us. How you doing pretty good? 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:57.680 Thank you for having us? 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.240 Well? You look adorable to together? Uh you do? You 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.960 just look so sweet? I love it. I love love. 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.919 So we start off by asking everyone the same first question, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.720 each of you, if you would give us three words 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:16.880 to describe your relationship right now. Kevin will start with you, Oh, right. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:27.960 Now, Okay, exciting, communicative, Wow, settled in a good way 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:34.920 like that, or he settles for me, but like we're content. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.680 Maybe I'm living to change the content the truth comes out. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:49.400 Yeah, I would say, uh, funny, honest, And. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:56.599 I don't know. I think it's sexual, like yeah, yeah, sexual, 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:57.800 you know what? 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.000 And a ho tell you all and all the conversation 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.039 we've had with couples, you all hit about three or 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.120 even four words that we've heard for the first time. Yeah, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.479 and what you all said, so that is that's kind 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:08.800 of cool. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.120 Yeah. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.000 Next question here though, when you all first met, was 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.919 their immediate chemistry. 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:17.839 No, I would. 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.440 Actually say yes, but not, but not at all the 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.920 way we have chemistry now, okay, fair like we both 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.440 both definitely we both definitely saw something and had a 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.280 goal in mind when we first met. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.000 I think the goals were different. The goals were very different. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.159 Do explain. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.240 We met when we worked together. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.200 We filmed this mini series nine eight and a half 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.200 years ago, almost nine years ago, and all of my 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.839 scenes were with Austin and so I came into it 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.160 being like, who is my scene partner? He's the lead 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.920 of the show. Tried to do some recon about him 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.400 and heard that he didn't come off as the friendliest person. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.159 I am. Let me just preface, I am I just. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.880 Didn't come yes, okay, that's why I put that in. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.640 I didn't come off me either. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.600 No, just a little cold, cold, little cold. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:04.839 I get that a lot too often. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.600 It's okay, okay, okay, introspective, you know it's not okay. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.680 I can get along, like I'll adapt to any situation, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.400 and I'm like, I'm not going to be in this 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.320 in every scene with this guy and he's not going 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.200 to not like me or like we're not going to 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.400 have a good report. So my goal going into it 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.680 was to sort of puzzle piece figure out what was 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.240 going on with him so we could at least have 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:33.000 some even if it was light friendship, so this experience 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:33.840 could be enjoyable. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.760 And then immediately I saw the. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.760 Hesitance, coldness maybe, and I was like, oh, challenge, okay, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:48.640 challenge accepted. I'm going to figure you out, and and 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.000 I sort of did. I just there wasn't any ulterior 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.200 motives in terms of like I want to be with 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.600 him or I want to hook up with him. It 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.400 wasn't like that. It was simply started from how can 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.200 we make this working relationship really good? Into maybe we 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.400 should be friends, maybe we need each other as friends, and. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:06.400 That's how yeah, we had. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.320 We had very different goals there because I saw I 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.440 remember seeing you and thinking, well, because at the time 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.520 I was, I was the early twenties. I was a 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.040 total mess and you know, like like we all were, and. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.360 Think for yourself, that's true. Actually you were fine. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:26.800 And I saw him and my first thought was next, 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.680 there's another one. I found one, and so I just 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.360 you know, what is it? Hook, hook and sink. Isn't 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.200 that what it's It's not a hook and sinker, Hook and. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.679 Sink, hook line and sinker on. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:40.560 Yes, like easy catch and then we'll be done. It'll 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:40.960 be great. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.000 That's I saw you saw it as like a you know, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.079 a friendship, friendship, and I saw it. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.200 As a temporary uh huh. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.839 Yeah, you know. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.160 It would be amazing though, if I had a radar 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:54.840 at some point in my life to know when people 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:56.559 thought of me in that way, because the amount of 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.000 time I've just been to be like, no, they're not 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.680 into me, now this is I would have been great 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:00.920 to know. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:07.240 Yeah, a little late, eventually it worked out. So you 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.680 played the long game without even realizing you were. Who 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:11.760 said I love you first? 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:16.840 Who said I love you first? Austin did, which is 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.720 funny because yeah, I mean we started. I feel like 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.680 our roles in our in this relationship have have like 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.360 over the years changed a lot like he used to. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.920 I don't know, just like the fact that I came 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.280 into it being like thinking it was just going to 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.960 be a hookup of fun show mance and then I 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:34.880 ended up saying I love you. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.640 First tricked you? 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:37.000 You did? 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.280 Okay, Kevin, you've playing worked dell us Here we ask 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.199 everybody this, what is the age difference? You've kind of 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.960 alluded to it, but what is the age difference? And 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.320 it has it had an impact at all on your 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.440 relationship one way or another? 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:52.319 Massive? 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.679 It's a huge age difference. How dare you I had 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.720 to change the stuper before okay. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:03.080 Depends it is almost five years or not a little 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:07.000 over five years? Yeah, five years ish. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:07.760 He's my senior. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.640 And I would say, like the any sort of differences 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.840 it has caused this like in social references and like 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.680 stories like oh yeah, when I was growing up, it 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.679 really makes me feel elderly. Oh, like like when you 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.880 don't understand their Robbie Williams, Robbie, that movie Better Man 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.560 came out this year and he was asking me about 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.439 Robbie Williams was like I grew up obsessed with Robbi Williams. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:34.680 And he didn't know. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.959 Oh you know what, I interviewed him when he came 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.480 out that I love him. It was the biggest deal. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.400 I felt so special getting to know him and hearing 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.400 his story and what it took for him to come out. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.800 That's so cool. He's one of my favorites. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:50.520 Yeah. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.200 Yeah, but I don't think there's ever been known. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.640 I mean in the beginning, like in the beginning, when 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.240 I was a mess, when I was in my you know, 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.720 early mid twenties, total mess. He was not norm Have 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.760 you ever really been a mess? I mean that that 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.760 was like a I guess a big difference. I was 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.560 going through a lot that you'd already learned or experienced. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.160 You were going through a lot of personal things that 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.760 I had never experienced or witnessed, and so it was 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.360 like a even though we are different places sort of 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.800 in our lives, I was learning. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.040 I learned. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.520 I feel like I've learned so much about like the 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.360 human condition through Austin and like think personal things he's 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.800 overcome in his past and things which has been. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.640 Pretty remarkable. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.600 You also had like just finished your party phase, I 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.160 feel like, and mine was. 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.360 Had just ended, so it was a different time. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:43.320 You know, I personally don't think the party phase should 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.200 ever end. There shouldlways be an element, up right. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.680 I think I had mine recently, Like I feel like 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.200 I just came out of my part like your party phase. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.040 I feel like I didn't party in college or high 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.640 school or anything, but I feel like we've both sort 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.200 of gotten back into it in a way. 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.560 It's like the hell you know, when you're younger and 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.720 you like going to party all the time and there's 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.120 no limit on it, and then now I feel like 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.000 there's the conscious decisions like do I need to do 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.640 that this weekend? 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:07.679 That might also be. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.840 That might also be a gay culture thing, I feel like, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.520 because I feel like a lot of gay culture is 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.880 centered around partying, so it does come in ways maybe true, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:17.400 I don't know. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.040 Yeah, I mean we party together. We continued our party 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.560 phase with each other, like not going out to hook 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.320 up or whatever that other people go do, but you 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.120 go out to enjoy it together, which is kind of 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.880 a fun new party phase an old person's party phase, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:30.640 right exactly. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.480 I think that's sort of I think that's sort of 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.680 where we are as well. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.360 Yeah, yeah, I call it a mature party phase. But whatever. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.079 Wait, So the next question we ask everybody, but I'll 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.160 figure out how you guys want to handle this is 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.240 we ask people, because everyone has been married so far, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.920 how long did you date before you got engaged? How 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.839 long were you engaged before you got married? So how 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.760 long have you all been together? And what are your 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.920 plans for the future. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.400 We've been together a little over eight years and I 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.240 was visiting a really good friend of mine this past 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.640 weekend in Colorado and her and her husband had have 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.400 been together two months shorter than we have, and they 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.440 have two kids. They have like multi homes, and I'm 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.560 sitting there watching with their kids, like what are we doing? 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.839 It feels like we are living such different lives and 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.080 we've technically been together a little longer, which feels so silly, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.600 And I think it's like breaking down that the like 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.120 my friend wanted to have kids, and they both wanted 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.559 to have kids and wanted to get married, and so 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.000 they're fufilling that checklist. I don't think we've ever really 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.480 had sort of that checklist. For me, it's like if 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.120 it's good, yeah, Like I'm really it's I'm really happy 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.959 with this right now and it's working how it is. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.240 So if I wake up to morrow, we should get married. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.600 How do you feel about that? Then maybe that's a discussion. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.640 One of our strong strongest suits in this relationship is 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.120 just going with the flow of it. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.000 We didn't how long was it telling. 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.359 We've in five years, eight years? 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.760 And and like the way that that came about was 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.640 one day I made a joke about moving in, and 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.240 he joked back about it, and then we just kept 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:15.360 joking about it, and then it became more serious, and 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:16.920 then one day I was like, wait, am. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:17.439 I moving in? 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.160 And then I moved in, and it something like we 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.760 never even really thought we would move in together. I 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.800 valued my space so much and so does he, and 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:34.600 that just happened completely organically. And we are talking about 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:40.360 a ceremony of sorts maybe or a ring of sorts maybe, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.320 but like we also have no desire to get married, but. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.640 Guess in the traditional scene for. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.760 Some reason, it's sort of I don't want to say 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.320 it's heading that way, but it's like it's going into 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.360 some world that's yeah, I don't know, so like we're it's. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.840 Just it's very going has happened. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.600 We're like, we're obsessed with each other and it's been 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.160 eight year and I'm like, I just want us to 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:02.880 have some jewelry. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:05.280 You know what. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.560 I totally get that. I totally get that. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.960 Your answer is really interesting because so many people think, Okay, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.040 marriage is the next step. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.960 You'll are taking things. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.720 Just as it comes, and it seems to be working 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.880 for you, even with something as monumental as moving in together. 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.240 It just kind of happened. It almost happens to havece. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.920 So the next question we had for folks, and most 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.080 of them been married, why did you want to get married? 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.040 And how do you think your relationship would be different 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.280 if you were just a couple and not married. So 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.840 I'll ask you all in this way, how do you 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.280 all think? I mean, it's working great now? Do you 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.960 all worry about what might happen to your relationship or 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.880 might change in some way if you put that piece 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:49.680 of paper with its. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:48.240 On? 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:48.760 One hand? 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:49.720 Do you worried? 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.880 I think that's just because I come from a family 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:56.520 with a ton of divorce and from experiencing that secondhand, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.320 I do worry, And of course I do worry of 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.360 like putting press Shawn us but for the most part, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.480 I mean, I really just look at how we moved 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.359 in together and like how. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:08.480 Easy it was. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.400 The way we talk about it, or at least the 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.960 way I say is it's like living with Kevin is 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.600 like living alone but better, like we have our own space. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.760 Romantic, you know, but you know what I mean, Like 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.520 it's living alone is easy because there's no one bothering you, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.320 and living with you, I never feel bothered, except for 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:29.080 when you're bothering me, right, I don't know, I don't 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.280 I don't know. I don't know if the answer the 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:32.800 question you go. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.920 I know I have the same concerns, like if it 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:41.520 ain't broke, it's sort of it works really well as 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.880 it is right now, and so I think if we're 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.040 we don't have the responsibilities of kids or not behold 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.640 you know, I think that would be a very different 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.120 situation for us if we were coming into this. And 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:59.200 there's something about maybe having marriage or that certificate that 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.560 changed thing that makes something more stable. But like it's 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.439 just us where we have some animals, and it feels 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:11.000 like if we can just for me keep it like this, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.240 so it works until like I said before, like we 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.679 wake up one day, I feel like I want to 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.880 do this, and we both feel. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:17.199 Like we want to do it. 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.600 Then the overwhelming need, like we moved in together. It 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.359 got to the point where like, this makes no sense 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.040 that we don't live together. Like you've been at my 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.800 house six out of seven days a week through the pandemic. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.159 It works incredibly well, Like just move over here for 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:37.720 the seventh day. And so you know, I think it's 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.360 sort of that same model where like you said, it's 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.680 like trending in a certain direction, and. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.520 You know, I guess it works really well right now. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.320 So yeah, yeah, I'm scared to mess with the balance. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.600 There is also I feel like for me, there is 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.400 also a little bit of like, because of the political climate, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.000 there is a bit of like should we get married. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.760 Not that there's like just in case can not that 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.160 there's like a huge, massive, real threat that it's getting away, 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.159 but there is it is a hossibility that marriage equality 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.880 will get taken away. So there have been times where 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.719 I'm like, should we just do it before before we can? 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.679 Well, yeah, I hadn't even thought about that, but that 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.840 does make total sense. And there are certain rights afforded 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.760 to you if you're married, and certain rights that are. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.440 Not exactly. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.600 You've made a commitment to one another, correct, I mean, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.719 do you? I mean, what is your relationship commitment level? Like, 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.240 have you articulated it? We haven't asked anyone else that 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.880 because they've been married, So I'm just curious if you're 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:47.719 not married, and what has been said between the two 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:47.920 of you. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:49.399 Good question. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.240 I actually don't know if we've ever really talked about 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.080 like what our commitment looks like, because I don't. It's 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.000 not commitment in the same way of like marriage. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.040 But I mean, I. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:05.960 Know from my perspective, this is only my second relationship ever, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:13.560 I am it's my first. Yeah, I don't know why. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:18.200 To me, it feels like when you are in a relationship, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.960 it's really important to me that we maintain our independence, 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.120 Like you are your own person, this is your life first, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.000