1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. Thanks for tuning in again 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: this week. And I know last week if you tuned in, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: you knew it was our exciting one hundredth episode, and 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: it was also a bittersweek because it was Rachel Lindsay's 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: last episode. I'm Bachelor happy Hour, But rest assured, don't worry. 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: We have another great, badass, incredible woman stepping in and 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: if you listened to a couple of weeks ago, you 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: heard her voice. But we have Catherine Lowe joining us again. Hi, Hi, everybody. 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. I'm also feeling like 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: I have huge shoes to fill, so I am just 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: like I've loved you and what Rachel will have built 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: over these many, many episodes, and I can't wait to 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: just kind of get into what you guys get to 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: do and be super excited. I'm super excited to be here, 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: and thanks for listening everybody. Well, thanks for joining us 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: Katherine you guys, like I said, and we're not just 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: going to have her on this week. She's actually going 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: to be stepping in for a few weeks and I 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: cannot wait because she just brings so much new, unique 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: perspective to the podcast. And Katherine, you know I love you, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: so I can't wait to have you on. You're stuck 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: with me, whether you want to be or not. I 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: don't know if that's a good thing or a bad 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: thing for you, but we obviously had you on, like 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I said a couple of weeks ago. And for any 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: of any of our viewers who are a little bit 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: younger or haven't tuned in, you know in past past seasons, 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: which I actually experienced for the first time, I met 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: somebody and they're like, you look familiar, but I never 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: watched your season. How long ago? Were you on? Five 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: years ago? And I was like, oh, you know, like 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: when you're in a school and the teachers like, wow, 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I just aged myself and I'm way older than I you. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: That's how I felt. And so for anyone who isn't 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: quite aware of you or listened in a few weeks ago, Katherine, 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: give us a quick intro about you. Obviously you met 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: Sean and you are now happily married with an incredible family. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: But take away, give us a little intro about yourself 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. Yeah. Sure, nine years ago 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I was filming the show, I met my now husband, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Shawan Lowe on the Bachelor, and we got engaged on TV. 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: We got married on TV. We did not have a 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: birth on TV, but we have three kids. You never know, 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: maybe there's a four. Maybe not. Nobody assume I'm pregnant, 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: but um, yeah. We live in Dallas, Texas. I run 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: a business called Loco, which is a luxury stationery. But 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I also because I run my own business and I 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: set my own hours, I get to do fun things 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: like co host with Becca Kufrin on the Happier podcast. 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: So I just I have a great, like super stable. 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say boring life, but it's definitely a mature life. Um, 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have those fun party stories, but 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, like you said, different, a little 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: bit different of a perspective, and it's cool to have 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: conversations with somebody that you have a genuinely like and 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: have a history with. Like we we met in New 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: York and so far we've just been it's been an 58 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: easy friendship. So I'm super excited to be here. I'm 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: excited to see who we get to interview, and I 60 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: just I couldn't be happier to be here with you. 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh thanks Catherine, Well I'm so glad that you that 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: you a were available, because I know your life is 63 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: crazy with three little ones. But before for all of 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: our listeners, before you know, we started recording, Catherine and 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: I had this conversation about this crazy world that is 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, like how everybody is somehow intertwined and connected. 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: And so Catherine and I I think we actually like 68 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: started talking. I mean well before I ever met you 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: in New York, like so Sean, it's so surprise, was 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: really good friends with Ari, which was like ancient like 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: ancient ago when he started right and obviously like news flash, 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I was on our season and we all know how 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: that turned out. But it's you know, like I wouldn't 74 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: have changed anything for the world because it brought us together. 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: And you were one of the first people that when 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I was still with him, you know, and it wasn't 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: public and before the break, like when you still have 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: to keep everything under wraps because the show is airing, 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: you would reach out to me and you were just 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: so kind and you're like, you ever need advice or 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: somebody to talk to, And so that's really that was 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: the start of our connection. And then fast forward to 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: after that, we met a New York at any event, 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: and you and Sean are probably like the couple that 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I was most excited to ever interact with, because you 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: are a success story from the franchise and you not 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: only you know, got engaged and got married after that, 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: but you have built such a solid, beautiful family. And 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: so I think when people think of the show truly 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and the success of it, they think of you and Sean, 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: which is something really special that I was able to 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: witness and meet. But that's why I'm just so excited 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: to share you with all of our listeners, because you know, 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: some people to this day, like are still skeptical about 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: the show and don't think that it works and think 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: they think that it's scripted and fake and it's just 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, all the drama. Sure, yeah, dramas a bit 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: of it, but it's also real love stories like you 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: and Sean, And so I can't wait to have you 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: on your Like I said, You're going to give such 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: a different perspective. And you know, you make jokes about 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: that you have this boring life, but I look at 103 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: you and that's what I aspire to be one days. 104 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: You know, I do want a solid connection with a partner. 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I do want three well I don't know if I'll 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: say three, but a few kids. I don't know how 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: many at this point one day running around And so 108 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be so much fun to have you on. 109 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: And what I'm very excited about today is you built 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: some really solid, great friendships from your time on Shawn season, which, 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: as you said, nine years ago, but they're still thriving. 112 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: And that's why one of your best friends who was 113 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: actually in your wedding was Leslie, who we're going to 114 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: have on very shortly. So give us a little bit 115 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: about your friendship, about how it started with Leslie, and 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 1: then do you still keep in touch with other women 117 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: from your season? Talk me through that, and then we'll 118 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: bring her on very shortly. Well, I'm sure you and 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Rachel talked about it, but being in the franchise, it's 120 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: such a unique experience and a lot of people can't 121 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: relate because they just don't. It's kind of like a 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: sorority or a fraternity. It's unless you know, like the 123 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: verbiage or the people or just really what happens in it, 124 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: it's a little hard to follow. So when I met 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: Leslie was we had an immediate connection the first night 126 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: at the mansion that rose ceremony, and since then we 127 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: have been in our life, you know, all these different 128 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: milestones in our lives. You know, I was she was 129 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: at my wedding and people were like, are you sure 130 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: you want her to be a bridesmaid? And I said absolutely. 131 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: I loved her before I loved my husband. So and 132 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: then now she has a baby and I was on 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: her baby shower a little zoom and we just continue 134 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: to be those friends where you don't have to talk 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: every day, but when you see each other, it's just 136 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: back and everybody knows that kind of friendship. So I 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: love her. I can't wait to hear what she has 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: going on and really to show everybody how beautiful she 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: is as a person, how dynamic she is, and she'll 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: be great to talk to. So I'm super about it. 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I mean, I'm extended to She's somebody 142 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: that I have followed for quite some time now and 143 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to meet. And you know, granted, we 144 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: can't do this some person unfortunately. Um, but ladies and gentlemen, 145 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: I just want to introduce her because I selfishly want 146 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: to meet her, So please Welcome to Happy Hour, Leslie Murphy. Leslie, 147 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: It's so good to finally meet you. I feel like 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: I've been such a fan for so long, since you 149 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: were on sewn season, so it's crazy that we're like 150 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: finally talking face to face. I know, I know, I 151 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: followed you for years and here we are. You're so good. 152 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for well, thanks for joining us. Catherine and I 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: were actually just talking about this weird incestuous family. We 154 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: were looking at a chart of like how everyone's somehow 155 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: intertwined of like someone day the same person and then 156 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: made out with this person and then you know, like 157 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: all the things that connect everyone, and here we are, 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: and is this like weird family tree out there? Because 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: it gets to me, I know, I will send it 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: to you because somebody DMed it to me and screenshot 161 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: at it, and you know, like when when it's like 162 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: the little clip and you can only see like, you know, 163 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the middle of some some picture. I clicked on it 164 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: and it zoomed out and it just like turned massive 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and it has to be to be incestuous and grows 166 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and beautiful and all the things. I probably didn't even 167 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: include a quarter of people who have been on the 168 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: show and like how everyone's intertwined. It had like the 169 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: main people, like the main drama, the main hookups, all 170 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: of that. But it's I will, I will send it 171 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: to you because it's wild to look at. I want 172 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: to see it, yes, but well, okay, Incestor's family aside, 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how we went off on that tangent. 174 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: We want to check in because we're so excited to 175 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: have you on Bachelor Happy Hour and you, I mean, 176 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: your life has changed drastically since obviously Sean season, which 177 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: is where you two met. But fill us in because 178 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: you've had some big life changes, just like within the 179 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: past couple of months. I know the past year has 180 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: been insane, little insane for everybody, but I mean between 181 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the posal and then having a newborn who's twelve weeks 182 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: today is insane. I mean the past nine years since yeah, 183 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: I went on The Bachelor. It's just I am a 184 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: completely different person, but in the best way, and so 185 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: happy to still be good friends with Catherine. It's crazy 186 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: to know that we met, you know, on this crazy 187 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: TV show and here we are still talking nine years later. 188 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you hear my screaming baby in the background, 189 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Bring her in at some point. She is 190 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: so adorable. You have such a lovely family. Thank you, 191 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, it's I don't even know what 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: to say. I mean, Catherine could help me out here 193 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: because you have three little ones. But having a newborns 194 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: hard work. Like I feel like everybody is all they 195 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: talk about is a good stuff with newborns, and you 196 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: feel kind of like this pressure to be like, oh, 197 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: it's this beautiful time. It's so lovely and blissful, and like, yeah, 198 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: there are certain times where it is that, but it 199 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: is so hard. Sleep deprivation is something like you've never 200 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: experienced in your life, and so to get used to 201 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: that is impossible. And then it still blows my mind 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: that such a tiny human requires so much. And even 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: when they sleep so much, they still require so much 204 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: because then you have the laundry to do and the 205 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: bottle service and all the things. So I think it's 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: just about learning on the job. And I see, I 207 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: feel like after three months now of doing that, we're 208 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: finally coming out of this haze and really enjoying it. 209 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: There's this there's this video that my sister took me 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: when I had just had Samuel, probably a couple of weeks, 211 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: and it is like the most unattractive but accurate description 212 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: of what motherhood like. Newborn motherhood looks like, I have 213 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: no brawl on. I'm in the bed, but I'm sitting 214 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: up and half asleep, and I'm my arm is like 215 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: moving because you're so you're a zombie, but then you're 216 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: responsible to keep another person alive. It does not feel okay, No, 217 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't. And you're for the first time you're like, wait, 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm the mom now, like that's me? Yeah? Charge why 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: why not qualified? For those? I want to go back 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: to the beginning because obviously you both met and became 221 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: friends on sean season. Just so take us back season 222 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: seventeen of The Bachelor. Did you guys hit it off 223 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: like night one in the mansion or how did your 224 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: friendship start to form? Um you want to go Katherine, Sure, 225 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean sure, I'll start some and then you fill in, 226 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: so we I can't remember if you were there before 227 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: me or whatever, but I just remember the night going 228 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: and I had served Shan Lowe some ice cream and 229 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: then I think a couple of girls were like, I 230 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: want to talk to him, and I was like, food, 231 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: just give him food. And then we connected about food 232 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: and the menu at the hotel that we were staying 233 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: at for what's like four days beforehand. We're like, oh 234 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: my gosh, have you tried the lemon pot of pancakes 235 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: or whatever. And then also at the end of the night, 236 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: we both had taken our braws off for some braw 237 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: situation happened, and we're like, it's like six in the 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: morning and we want to go, and not we're this 239 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: like confined stuff. So we were very similar and had 240 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: like we had jokes and we were silly together and 241 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: we were honest about this and not we did have 242 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: a facade on. I thought that was like very telling 243 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: for the beginning of our friendship. Yeah, I agree. I 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: think I don't know what it was. We were just 245 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: drawn to each other and it went. The friendship went 246 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: like this, and it all started with food, the common 247 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: denometer of all of humanity, and it was literally like 248 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: went down the menu and then, oh my gosh. I 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: remember that first night because on sewn season it was 250 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: it was really different because he started handing out the 251 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: roses throughout the night, and which is very different because 252 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: it's usually just at the rose ceremony at the end 253 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: of the night, and so you had gotten a rose 254 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't. I didn't have a rose yet. And 255 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: I also had talk to him yet. And I remember 256 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: going up to you and I was like, I don't 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: know what to do. I'm so anxious, like I'm definitely 258 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: going home. It's night one. I'm gonna be that girl. 259 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: And You're like, Okay, no, here's what you need to do. 260 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: And I don't even know, like what food it was, 261 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: but it was. I don't even know what food it was. 262 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: All I remember is we talked about football, but you 263 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: was true Simon's Island too, Yes, but like, who who 264 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: does that? I mean, at the end of the day, 265 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: this show is a competition, and so you just off 266 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: the bat were like, let me help you. And I 267 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I love this girl. And then we 268 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: took our bros off likes well, I will say there's something. 269 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a weird experience to find yourself 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: in and and everything is so heightened. I feel like, 271 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, the nerves are there night one. You. I 272 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: think people half the time expect to step out of 273 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: the limo and they don't think they're going to make 274 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: any friends. They think people are going to be catty, because, 275 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: like you said, it is that competition. And so when 276 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you find a girl that you click with, it's something 277 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: really special and it bonds you in such a weird way, 278 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: like yes, even though you were dating the same man. 279 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: It really solidifies any sort of friendship in such a 280 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: weird way, which is so funny because you know, even 281 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: the question to this day, I get two questions like 282 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: was it real? You know, did you really like fall 283 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: through that the lead whoever it was, and did you 284 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: really form friendships? And so much like you two, I 285 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: still I'm super close with a couple of girls on 286 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: my season. But it's like you go through this wild 287 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: experience that no one else can even like really fathom, 288 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: like unless you're there. And so it's special when you 289 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: do find somebody that you know, take the braws off. 290 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Talk about food. Those are the things that bombed people 291 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: like I. You know, Leslie obviously has a wreck. She 292 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: held a record with my now husband for like the 293 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: longest kiss on screen, and then she ends up being 294 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: one of my bridesmaids and everyone's like, well, isn't that weird? 295 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I was like no, because I fell in love with 296 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Leslie before I fell in love with Sean, Like it's 297 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: really because you spend so much time with the other 298 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: roles in the house and you barely spend time with 299 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the lead, it makes sense that you would have these 300 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: very long lasting friendships that other people cannot relate to 301 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: in the other world. And I'm so glad the show 302 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: decided to show that and edit that ind because I 303 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: think it was the first time in a season that 304 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: they really opened the door to friendships on the show, 305 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: because usually it is I mean, at the end of 306 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: the day, they're here to make a TV show. I drama. 307 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Drama brings the views, but I mean, our friendship was 308 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: and is something special, So I think it was awesome 309 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: that they allowed everyone to see that. Yeah, and like 310 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: usually they would have like the couch and like, okay, 311 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: you sit over here, and you sit over here. But 312 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: we were always naturally next to each other, so we 313 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: were in so many I don't want to say scenes, 314 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: but we're in a lot of scenes together because we're 315 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: naturally together. But also not you know, bachelor aside, Leslie, 316 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: you have so much going on in your life. You 317 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: have an incredible Instagram account, Like I'm obsessed with following 318 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: you I followed you first three years now I think 319 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Shan season. But you also have started your own blog, 320 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: The World Less Traveled, So tell us a little bit 321 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: about that. You tell us about your love for travel, 322 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: some of your favorite places that you've been, and how 323 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: you started that. Yeah, for sure. So after we wrapped 324 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: filming in twenty twelve, we the show aired in twenty thirteen, 325 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: and I think it was like a few months later 326 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: I left and moved to Argentina, and I think a 327 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that was crazy at the time, 328 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: because I think the show was still airing or just 329 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: finished airing, and people are like, oh, you could, you 330 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: could do so much, like there's so many opportunities, and 331 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Like there are so many opportunities in 332 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: South America, though, And so I went down there, worked 333 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: for a company that's a lot like Airbnb, and remember 334 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: just not being fulfilled. Quit one day started a travel blog. 335 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: My family was like what are you doing? And logged 336 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: hour after hour trying to make this work, make this successful, 337 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: reach out to any and every travel partner I could, 338 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: and finally started getting traction. And then I just gave 339 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: up that win a star's apartment and was a traveler 340 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: and a nomad for the next three years and building 341 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: this blog, building this website, and going on solo trips, 342 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: and then finally I was like, I need to be 343 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: a real person. I need to be a real adult. 344 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: So then I went on Bachelor Win Our Games and 345 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: it was right after that that's a normal transition. I 346 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: was like, this transition is not adding up. But that's 347 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: the way we went. So we wrapped filming, it aired, 348 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and I got my first apartment in I think four 349 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: or five years in LA and I think two months 350 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: later I met. I just want to say clarify, not 351 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: Dean's apartment, that he gave you the key to correct 352 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: your own. Thank you, Becca. Let's go back. Yeah, no, 353 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: not that one. And we all can we all note 354 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: that that proposal was complete and utter bullshit because he 355 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: proposed with a key when he had a keyless injury house. 356 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: He had a keyless inentry house. Of course he did 357 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: just want to throw that out there. Um, So no, 358 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: I got, I got my own apartment and met my 359 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: fiance two months later. So I don't know, it's I think, 360 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: you know, I get questions all the time about people 361 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: breaking up with their partner and what can they do 362 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: to feel better and find their true love? And I 363 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: think it's all about working on yourself and finding like 364 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: true interpeace within yourself before you can find another and 365 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: be happy with another. And it was like the perfect 366 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: moment that we both met. We're both filled within ourselves 367 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: and then it just like went from there. And he's 368 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: just as spontaneous as I am and loves to travel, 369 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's the best. And now look at you, 370 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: two kids in love with a cute little kid living 371 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: in your home. Now going on our first trip next week, 372 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: which I am slightly nervous about. Where are you going? 373 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: We're heading to Hawaii, so she's never been on a 374 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: plane before. It'll be great, It'll be great. It'll be great. 375 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, goodbbe be great. What place if you have 376 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: like a travel novice, what place in the world would 377 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: you suggest for like stepping into Okay, I want to 378 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: even if it's somebody that can't really do it as 379 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: much as nobody really can do it as often as 380 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: you did, but the first step into falling in love 381 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: with travel and what activity would you do there? M oh, 382 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a great question. I would start, I 383 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't do something crazy out of the box. 384 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: I would start close ish to home, and I would 385 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: start in nature because seriously, nothing makes me hit the 386 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: reset button better than being surrounded by nature, and a 387 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of times that's by myself. And I tell everyone, 388 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: if you have never done a solo trip, do it 389 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: like it's It's probably going to scare the shit out 390 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: of you, and that's fine, but that's the whole point 391 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: of it is to be thrown out of your comfort 392 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: zone and it will make you grow in ways you 393 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: never ever thought possible and make you learn way more 394 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: than you ever have learned in a textbook. Have you 395 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: have the two of you'll, have ever been on a 396 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: solo like a proper solo trip. No. But this is 397 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: why I want to talk to you about this because 398 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: this year, finally, I think because of COVID and me 399 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: going through such a major public breakup, I have been 400 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: It's been something I've been wanting to do for about 401 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the past year, and now I feel like I'm at 402 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the point where at first I was kind of scared 403 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: to do it. You know, I would like to have 404 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: somebody just to feel safe and secure and you know, 405 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: like have a good backup if I ever needed it. 406 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: But then I'm like, no, like you like to be alone, 407 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: you're independent, So I want to piggyback off onto that 408 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: and ask for advice for solo trips as well. Okay, 409 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: so I think you are more apt to meet more 410 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: people by yourself then if you're traveling with friends or family, 411 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: because you're by yourself, Like if you were with a friend, 412 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: you're going to be talking amongst the two of you, guys. 413 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: And so I think it's a great jumping off point 414 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: to meet new people. And I don't I don't know 415 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: what exactly. Let's just start with sticking close to home, 416 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: somewhere domestic inside the US. Do you like do you 417 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: like hiking? Do you like to be outdoors and surrounded 418 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: by nature? I do, but I'm not really um that savvy, 419 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Like if I have to camp outside by myself, I'd 420 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit afraid of what might happen. No, 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: this is that this is not slightly nervous to a 422 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: camp by myself too. I don't know all the ends 423 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: and the op about it, but I would definitely start 424 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: um with the National Park by yourself. Um, Catherine and 425 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: I sort of kind of went to Glacier National Park 426 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: in Montana, but that wasn't either one of our one 427 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: on one day it is. It's still it's like probably 428 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: at the top of my list for the US based destination, 429 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: and like Montana is so hot right now because it 430 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: is so beautiful outdoors, and all the national parks are 431 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: having a moment with COVID now, especially because Americans really 432 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: can't go too far outside the borders. So I would say, 433 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: some kind of national park, you don't have to I 434 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: don't think you even have to. Like love hiking. I 435 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: remember my first hike when I was living in Argentina. 436 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: I went to Patagonia, tear streaming down my face. I 437 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: had I hadn't even broken in my brand new hiking boots, 438 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: had no clue what I was doing. But I look 439 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: back on that experience and I'm like, that was so 440 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: awesome because that propelled me forward to love the outdoors. 441 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's so healing, so healing, So that's incredible. 442 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: That's where I'd start that or going and hanging out 443 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: by the beach in the Caribbean where Yeah, I was 444 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna say, outside of the US, where is one of 445 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: your favorite places internationally that you've traveled, or that you 446 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: would recommend to people. Yeah, I think solo or with 447 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: a partner, or even with family, because it it is 448 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: so varied in landscape and budget. You can do it 449 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: as sheep or as expensive as you want. I love Thailand. 450 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it because 451 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: there's like it has the mountains in the north, in 452 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: the beaches and the islands in the south, and it 453 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: offers so much. And like I said, you can do 454 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: it on a budget or you can just blow it 455 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: out of the park. Um, whatever you want. I will, 456 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I will attest to that. We went on the show. 457 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: We went to Thailand UM on my season, and it 458 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: is incredible. And that's the one place that I'll always 459 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: recommend to anyone wanting to travel internationally anywhere. It's just 460 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: the culture and the food and the history and like 461 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: you said, the landscape, it's so varied. It's studying and Catherine, 462 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: that's where you got engaged. Yes, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, 463 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: I would just say Southeast Asia in general, UM is amazing. 464 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Like Vietnam is so good for food, It's like food Mecca. 465 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: It is so beautiful, the people are so lovely. Bally 466 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: is just an easy one because I feel like I 467 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: feel like it's it seems overrun with tourism. But at 468 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: the same time, there are so so many hidden gems 469 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: that you could find too. And again, you can do 470 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: it on a budget as or as expensive as you want. 471 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: It has something for everyone. So moving forward, because you've 472 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: traveled and you've done so much alone and you've done 473 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: so much stuff with your fiance, do you think going 474 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: forward you're gonna steal Pepper in those solo trips or 475 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: are you excited to do things with Nora and your 476 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: family so excited to see the world through Nora's eyes. 477 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm nervous as to what travel brings with a newborn, 478 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: like I have no idea what to expect, none whatsoever. 479 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: You could you tell me? I think it'll be great. 480 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: I think if you acclimate them early, because my sister, 481 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: she has a baby, and she lives in France and 482 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: they do tons of outdoor trips and if they're used 483 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: to it, then that's just their norm. And I think 484 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: that everything that you do and you show them, they'll 485 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: easily pick up on. So you can do whatever. Newborns 486 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: are the easiest to travel. What's to be honest and 487 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I think that's the first piece of advice you gave me. 488 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: I think on that baby shower zoom call, you were like, 489 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: travel now do it. It's the easiest right now. And 490 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: it's also so sweet you have them in the carrier 491 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: and you get to still watch your shows and then 492 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: they'll eventually know how to travel with you without having 493 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: them be so dependent on you. But it's really they 494 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: follow your lead. Yeah, And I think I think she's 495 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: really gonna like being out and about. If she's not stimulated, 496 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: she is pissed. She is so mad. She has like 497 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: this kind of aurburn want to be red hair. And 498 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you're gonna be a firecracker if you 499 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: are going to be like, you're gonna like being on 500 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the go. So I think it's gonna be good. It's 501 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: just a little intimidating, especially this first trip. I need 502 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: to get it out of the way so I feel 503 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: like I know what I'm doing and know that I 504 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: don't need to bring the whole house with me. Yes, 505 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: Hawaii will be a good trial run, a good tester 506 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: to see. At least it's still part of the US 507 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: and it's you know, still always out there. But hopefully 508 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: you can still relax and just easer in. But I 509 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: think it's so important and so special to instill that 510 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: love of travel in different cultures in any child, especially 511 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: at such a young age, and so that's that's going 512 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: to be incredible. I can't wait to see your photos 513 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: as I'm so excited. But I will always shaish those 514 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: solo trips. So Becca, I'm holding you to this. I 515 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: need you, please do I need you to take a 516 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: solo trip for you first, but also for me, and 517 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: then report back. I will, I will, Okay, So my goal, 518 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: by I mean, you know, depending on how things roll 519 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: out and open. After everything that's happened this past year, 520 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: my goal is to do one. And at first I 521 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: was just gonna be like, go bigger, go home. I 522 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: was going to go to Europe and do like a 523 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: backpackage trip around Europe. But I might take your lead, 524 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: do something a little bit more loco loco, too local, 525 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: just to see how it goes. But I will be 526 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: I will be blowing up your phone and be like 527 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: what do I do it in this situation? Or how 528 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: do I handle this? Or you know, so I'll get 529 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: all the pointers from you. But yes, I will for 530 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: sure do it this year. It's it's my goal on 531 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: my bucket. Lit Okay, knowing how good you're doing it 532 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: this slowly, would you ever consider being like a unique 533 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: travel agent or planner like a cost year, Yeah, I definitely. 534 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: I've definitely thought about it, especially as you know, I 535 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: have a family and hopefully a growing family and maybe 536 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: can't always be all over the place all the time, 537 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: or maybe I can, like who knows how it's going 538 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: to really evolve, and something like that would would keep 539 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: me home more. But at the end of the day, 540 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: kudos to the travel agents the concierge of the world 541 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: because it is hard work because you got to be 542 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: on it all hours. Think about it. If you plan 543 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a trip for somebody in New Zealand and they're over there, 544 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, the time zone so different, something goes wrong, 545 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: your phone has to be on it all hours of 546 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: the day. It's unless you have a team that's getting 547 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: you'd be the boss. But you got to start somewhere. 548 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll never forget I went on I went 549 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: to New Zealand last year for an engagement trip right 550 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: after we got engaged, and my parents met us over 551 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: there and they had travel agents plan their trip. Not 552 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: great travel agents, by the way, It's so many little 553 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: things were going wrong and they were just never available 554 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: for them because the time zones were so different, and 555 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: so I'm like, first of all, you need to fire 556 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: these people. Secondly, like this is hard work. And I 557 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: knew that because I mean travel planning. I knew my 558 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: own travel planning, and it is a time suck. I mean, 559 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: you are looking at lodging options, activities, restaurants. But I 560 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: also am so type I'm not Type AI, and so 561 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm never like super organized with an itinerary. I kind 562 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: of like just go with the flow more, which can 563 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: also want to bite me in the butt. I wanted 564 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: to ask both of you because you know, I've traveled 565 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: with so many different people, especially being on the show 566 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: and then just a family. Are you the type of 567 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: people that leslie you kind of just answer this, but 568 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that needs a full packed itinerary. Always something to do? 569 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I always an activity? Or are you more see where 570 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: the day takes me. Maybe I'll stop into this restaurant, 571 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: maybe I'll day drink, maybe I'll go Harris ailing or whatever. 572 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: What are you like, Catherine Well, I actually going back 573 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: to the soul trup. I am lived in Kenya by 574 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: myself for I mean, obviously I went for my trump 575 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: my study abroad, but I traveled there by myself. And 576 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: after Kenya, I went to London, and it's I'm the 577 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 1: kind of person where I have to look it up 578 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: and see what are the spots I don't want to miss. 579 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: So like, let's say there's just a couple that you're like, Okay, 580 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: I have to go to these places, but then everything 581 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: else is like, okay, well I'm going to see something. 582 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to stop there. I want to check it 583 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: out to really understand instead of like because kind of 584 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: like when you're traveling with somebody else, you guys are 585 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: both like in your own space, you're not really looking around. 586 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: But when you're by yourself and you're trying to explore 587 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: and really engage with the city or the town or 588 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: the whatever you're doing, I think you're way more open 589 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: to see exactly what that city offers you, exactly what 590 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: that's about the type of people you're you're much more engaged. 591 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I feel like when you don't have the specific itinerary. Yeah, 592 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I would agree that you're much more present. Yeah, with 593 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: your surroundings. You're more apt to meet new people because 594 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: you're not just so engrossed in another person next to you. Yeah. Well, 595 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: so you're looking at a sheet and you're like, oh, 596 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: I have to do this, and you're not like, oh, 597 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I kind of want to. Oh this looks good, I'm 598 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: gonna do look at the tailing Yep. I've found just 599 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: through traveling that some of the best moments and even 600 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: like best restaurants or coffee shops, little local hole in 601 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: the wall places you always it's just talking to somebody, 602 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: like whether it's at a bus stop or just getting 603 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: a gelata, like whatever might be. I love picking people's 604 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: brains who live there and know the good spots, not 605 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: the touristy spots or like the instagram able spots. And 606 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: so that's what I mean. Again, I haven't traveled lately 607 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: because it's been COVID, but when I was, I would. 608 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I would tell people That's one thing I would recommend 609 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: is to just get to know people around you that 610 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: live in the area that can recommend good spots um 611 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: that you would probably never find in a book or 612 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: on Instagram or Google. You gotta take the road less 613 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: traveled sometimes, you know, I love Okay or when are 614 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: you guys gonna go see Alex's family. It's so it's 615 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: so sad. I mean I have cried, he has cried. 616 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: It's so sad. We have no idea Ustralia. Right, they're 617 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,959 Speaker 1: in Australia. We don't know when the borders really are 618 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: going to open. His dad says maybe maybe by the 619 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: end of the year, although nobody really knows. Yeah, you know, 620 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: it's up to the government. I think, Um, you can't. 621 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: You can possibly find a flight, there aren't many, but 622 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: I think, but when you land there, you have to 623 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: quarantine at a government hotel three thousand dollars minimum. Like 624 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: it's we could never do that with a baby, I 625 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: mean never ever ever. Um, and we really wanted to 626 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: get we still want to get married over there. But 627 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: I feel so lucky that we we were just I 628 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: remember last at the end of last February, we were 629 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: about to put a deposit down for a wedding planner, 630 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we didn't because I feel so 631 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: lucky that we haven't had to go through the red 632 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: tape of canceling anything because nothing was booked. I remember 633 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: the first week of ch I tried on wedding dresses 634 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: for the first and only time, so glad I didn't 635 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: actually end up choosing one because well, I've had a 636 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: baby and like that's changed everything. Um So I would 637 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: love to start planning a wedding over there, but but 638 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I would hate to plan it and the borders still 639 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: not be opened by the end of the year. Oh, 640 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: it's gotta be tough. We're we're in Australian's is family 641 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: based there in Sydney. Um, his brother is in the 642 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: up in Queensland's too, so um by Noosa. It's just 643 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: it's all stunning, like so different from where I grew 644 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the country in Arkansas. And 645 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: I still don't know how I got an Australian here 646 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: back here. Those Australians I used to date a guy 647 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: well before the show from Melbourne, melb Melbourne and those Australians, 648 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: they're good guys. I have a couple Australian friends and 649 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: they're just incredible. But yeah, Australia is stunning. Like I 650 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: went to Sydney for a few days before I traveled 651 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: to ball a couple of years ago, and their food 652 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: seen there, I didn't expect, you know, Like when I 653 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: went to Sydney. I didn't expect to like be so 654 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: blown away by the restaurants and the food, and it 655 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: is incredible. It's incredible. They do breakfast really well. They 656 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: do with their flat whites really well. Um, what is 657 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: the breakfast like? And what is a flat white? So 658 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Alex is obsessed with avocado toast and I see where 659 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: why and where he gets it. It's from all these 660 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: beautiful restaurants in Sydney. They do it so well. Um 661 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: with like smashed avo to a tea perfect with the 662 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: seasoning and post hugs on top if you want, um, 663 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: some bacon on the side. Sorry crispy bacon. It'd be 664 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: so mad at me if I didn't say that. Um. 665 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: And then a flat white. I'm still confused at what 666 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: it is. I think it's kind of like a cappuccino 667 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: with less foam. Okay, this is not it's okay. It's 668 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: a drink. Yes, it's a drink. It's a coffee drink. 669 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: It's a coffee snob because they do coffee really well 670 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: over there. So our coffee machine in there is like 671 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: this big. He actually packs it in a drone case 672 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: when we travel. It's so obnoxious. Oh, my gosh, but 673 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: I let it like you gotta take your battles. So yeah, 674 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: as long as he's making you a good flat white, 675 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: that's all that matters every day, every day. I'm so 676 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: lucky beget that would be another great when the boarders open. 677 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: Australia would meet such a great for you to go 678 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: back to another solar trip. I have been wanting to. Oh, 679 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: I've been itching to get back there. Obviously you know 680 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: now it's almost impossible. But yeah, that's all my bucket 681 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: list again. I would love to even like my mom, 682 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: I would love to go with her and just experience everything. 683 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: But trip. That's a really good mother daughter trip Byron Bay. 684 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: Put it on your list Byron Bay. Yeah, I just 685 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: everyone everywhere in Australia. I was supposed to study abroad 686 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: in Adelaide, you know, almost a decade over a decade ago, 687 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I guess now, and it didn't work out. So I 688 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: want to get back. You could have drink your way 689 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: through it because it's wine country down there. I know 690 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: it looks so stunning. Yeah, I feel like I could 691 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: talk to you both about travel and food and flat 692 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: whites all day. But Leslie, there's so much more to 693 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: you and one thing that I personally loved and I'm 694 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: sure your followers have loved too. It's just how open 695 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: and personal you are about all of your life experiences, 696 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: and recently you went through you were very open about 697 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: your the journey and the procedure with your double mestectomy, 698 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: and so can you talk a little bit about that 699 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: and what made you undergo that and why you decided 700 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: to share it with all of your followers as well? Yeah, 701 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: for sure. So my mom, it all started when my 702 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: mom was diagnosed with breast cancer in twenty fourteen, and 703 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: I was living in Buenos Aires then, so it's it's 704 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: like something you'll ever forget when you get that kind 705 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: of call, You remember exactly where you were, and and 706 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: my dad was on the phone. They both they both 707 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: were on the phone, and he was like, your mom 708 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: has breast cancer. Immediate tears. She had surgery like the 709 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: very next week, and they cut it early. So she's 710 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: really great today. But that led my two sisters and 711 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: I to get tested for the bracke gean, the same 712 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: gene that gave her cancer, and it's just kind of 713 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: crazy how the dice fell. So my older sister tested positive, 714 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: my younger sister tested negative, and I got tested last 715 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: because I was all over the place all the time, 716 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: and so finally I was home and I was like, Okay, 717 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: I need to go get this test done. And I 718 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: remember my mom was like, you'll be fine, it'll be negative. 719 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 1: And I think that just came from a mother's guilt, 720 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: like and I know she still feels that today, and 721 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: it's and I like to flip it on its head 722 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: because I think she, you know, knowing that she was 723 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: positive for the she and it led us to get 724 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: tested and like that kind of knowledge is powerful. And 725 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: I tested positive obviously, and forty days later was on 726 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: i know, our table getting my breast removed at twenty 727 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: nine years old. But I think I was so okay 728 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: with that decision because I remember once I got the 729 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: news that I was positive, it was weirdly on my 730 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: way to my guide in college disappointment. And so I 731 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: had somebody to sit down with at that moment and 732 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: talk to about it, and she was like, you know, 733 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: if it was me, I wouldn't want to sit on 734 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: something potentially cancerous and that just like that got the 735 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: ball rolling. And so by the time I left her office, 736 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I already knew I was going to move forward with 737 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: the preventive surgery and felt really good about it from 738 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: that moment forward. And I was never somebody super attached 739 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: to my breasts like I know some women are. It's 740 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: just a body part they love, they're proud of they 741 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, it looks great on them, whatever it may be. 742 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: But I've had like big hips from day one, so 743 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: like that's where the intentions always gone up. I remember 744 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: my mom always saying she had to do elastic wasteban 745 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: jeans on me since the very beginning, and so I've 746 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: never really focused on my boobs until then. And so, 747 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people grieve it 748 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: like a missbody part, but I think fortunately fortunately for me, 749 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, miss them so much. So 750 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: I had a slightly easier time in terms of the 751 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: emotional and mental wearing on me. The physical pain was 752 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: a lot, but I kind of looked at it as 753 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: like this cool like Gray's Anatomy episode, where I would 754 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: literally go into the doctor's office every Tuesday and watch 755 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: them put a needle in my breast getting me ready 756 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: for a reconstructive surgery. This was after the double misstect 757 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: me and they would fill my breast was sailing to 758 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: like slightly grow a little larger each time. And it 759 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: was just something that you have to you have to 760 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: look at it with a positive attitude. It's everything, or 761 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: it's just going to wear you down and wear you 762 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: down and wear you down. And I would say that 763 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: and a support system is key. Strange on the Internet 764 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: literally got me through it. And I think that's when 765 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: I learned the power of social media is when I 766 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: put this out on social media because I wasn't going 767 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: to be traveling for three four months and so I 768 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: was like, well, if I'm not going to do that, 769 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: and might as well put this out there. And if 770 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: I could help just one person like boom, I've done 771 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: my job and had no idea the effect it would have. 772 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: And literally, like strangers on the Internet helped me healing 773 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: ways I can never describe. I have to commend you 774 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: for sharing that story because it is something so personal 775 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: and most people probably would choose to keep that private. 776 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: You know you're going through something internally that you know 777 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: you don't always want to be so I think in 778 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: our society, note people don't want to be so upfront 779 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: about their personal issues and their bodies, and especially when 780 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: you're a public figure and having people just talk about 781 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: your bodies and kind of objectify you in general. So 782 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: I think that's incredible, And I will say, like, I 783 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: love that you speak out about the preventative measures because 784 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: I truly believe I think knowledge is power, and you know, 785 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: similarly to you, this isn't the same exact situation, but 786 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: I've dealt with a lot of illness in my life. 787 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: A lot of my family members have had different kinds 788 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: of cancer, and so I went through a small procedure 789 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: earlier last well a couple months ago, I guess, And 790 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: before we even started it, my doctor was like, I 791 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: want you just to do genetic testing to see what 792 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of genes you might carry, what kind of potential 793 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: genetic cancers your dad could have given you or your 794 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: mom could have given you. So we did also to 795 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: check for that Brocket gene as well. And so it's 796 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: so I think, just such a way that you know 797 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: internally potentially what you're up against, what you're not up against, 798 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: what you could pass down to your children. And so 799 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: I think that's so important that you're speaking out about 800 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: it and to get tested, and to just know what 801 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: you're potentially up against and the different options that you 802 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: have to move forward with, like what you did with 803 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: the double mestectomy or not. You know, it's all about 804 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: your options. And so I think it's so important that 805 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: you share, especially with your women followers, because I guarantee 806 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: you've probably changed so many people's lives and and they 807 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: some of your followers probably had no idea what that 808 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: even was until you brought it up to them, and 809 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: it's so important. I didn't. I didn't tell my mom 810 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with cancer. And so I think science is 811 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: so cool. Science is so cool. And I think bottom line, 812 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: like I've learned that sharing will help at least one 813 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: other person, if not, yes, hundreds or thousands more. So 814 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: I always if they're not comfortable with it completely fine, 815 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: but if they have even the little bit the tiniest 816 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: inkling to share, I always urge them too, because it's 817 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: always so helpful I think for them and other people 818 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: as well. Like like I said, I think it's just 819 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: like this weird symbiotic relationship that happens because it's so 820 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: helpful for you to like release your story in a way, 821 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: get it off your chest. So you feel lighter in 822 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: the end, and then on the other receiving end is 823 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: this helps, and you've uncovered like a community of women 824 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: that have either experienced something similar to or are now 825 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: again exploring what this means and understanding how to help 826 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: other people that might be in their community that are 827 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: that are suffering something similar. So that's awesome. No thanks, Catherine, Yeah, yeah, 828 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: that's good. Um, I think I get Dam's emails about 829 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: it multiple times a week, so it continues to blow 830 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: my mind. And I think it's just the sad part 831 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: about that is you realize that breast cancer is going 832 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: nowhere because I constantly get hey, I've I've been been 833 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: diagnosed with breast cancer, or my mom has been diagnosed 834 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: with breast cancer or eye positive for the bracagene. And 835 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 1: on one hand, it's it's a little sad because it's 836 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: still running rampant. But on the other hand, I think 837 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: that preventative knowledge is so helpful. So yeah, science, yes, 838 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: I agree, and even too, like you know, for people 839 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: wanting to potentially start families, you can get tested for 840 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: so many other genetic things that if you're a carrier 841 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: and your partner's not or vice versa. It's just important 842 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: to know. And again, you know, you have the options 843 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: to choose what you want to do in any case, 844 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: and if you don't want to, you know, that's that's 845 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: your decision. But yep, knowledge is power. Science is incredible. 846 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: Um it is. But and now this is something that 847 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: you can take and share with Nora, with your baby now, 848 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: which is incredible. And you know, granted she's only twelve 849 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 1: weeks telling you're gonna been talking to her about this 850 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: right now, but one day, just leave that door open 851 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: and have her become more aware and you know, know 852 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: what she's potentially up against one day once she grows up. 853 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: So true, I think about that a lot, and if 854 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: she'll be positive for that gene or not. Um and 855 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: just knowing what I know now from you know, my 856 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: mom's guilt. UM, I'm trying. I'm gonna try and not 857 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: carry that with me because you know, at LEAs we know, 858 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, if my mom hadn't been diagnosed, we would 859 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: never have been tested, you know. So I think, Um, 860 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: whatever happens with Nora, it'll be it'll be okay, m yeah, yeah, 861 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: And I'm just speaking, Oh yeah, I just wanted to say, 862 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: like everything that I've known about you, Leslie has been like, 863 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you to have a daughter. First 864 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: of all, because you've always been about empowering women. You've 865 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: been about body positivity, and like to see someone on 866 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,399 Speaker 1: the outside like not knowing you at the beginning, but 867 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: seeing these things come out. I'm so excited for you 868 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: to raise up someone that is similar to you, where 869 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: you're okay, you're a strong woman, you could be independent, 870 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: Your body is beautiful. It's something that you should, you know, 871 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: be revering, and I just love that about you. So 872 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what Nora gets from that, and 873 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: obviously to see Alex's traits, but as as a woman 874 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: who's so strong and just a wonderful example of a 875 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: strong woman, but also have you know, you have the 876 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 1: soft qualities too, But I'm excited to see what Nora becomes. 877 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: Thanks guya. Yeah. Somebody asked me the other day. They 878 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: were like, what are you most excited about? Like what 879 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: makes you most excited about motherhood? What are you most 880 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: excited about? And I sat back and I was like, yeah, 881 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to travel with her, but I think 882 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: more looking at the bigger picture, I'm more excited to 883 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: just raise like a really kind but fierce female. Yeah, 884 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: it's so important. Um, I can't wait to see where 885 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: life takes you and Nora and Alex. I can't wait 886 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: to follow along once you're in Hawaii, once you continue 887 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: to travel and raise this badass female that you guys created. Um, 888 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: So before we let you go, what is next besides Hawaii? 889 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: Like any other future plans that you guys have in store? 890 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: And then also let all of our followers know where 891 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: we can follow you and how to find you and 892 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: your blog and all the things. Yeah, good question. I 893 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: feel like this whole past year and pandemic has thrown 894 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: everybody off their track for good and bad. Right. Like, 895 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: it's definitely like pivot was the word of twenty twenty 896 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: and it's set us on this path for twenty twenty 897 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: one with a brand new daughter and slowly getting back 898 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: into travel. But if I'm being honest, I feel like 899 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: it's it's almost weird to start traveling again because I 900 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: haven't for so long. It almost feeled off brand when 901 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: it was my brand for seven years. So I think 902 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: just slowly getting back into travel with a baby and 903 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: planning a wedding is what we're going to do in 904 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 1: the near future for twenty twenty one, whenever those borders 905 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: open in Australia, we will be on a plane going 906 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: to spend time with Alex's family so that they can 907 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: hold their grand daughter. Um and that's kind of what 908 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: we're focused on now. Um. And you can find me 909 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: on my Instagram at Leslie and Murphy L s l 910 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: e y everybody, my dad. I remember trying to find 911 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: a name for Nora and I was like, I just 912 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 1: want to name like a simple name, So Nora it was. 913 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, Leslie and Murphy and the road Less travel 914 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: dot com less with one s l e es. Yes, well, Leslie, 915 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: it has been such an apsolute pleasure to have you 916 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: on Batch a happy Hour, but for me personally, just 917 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: to finally meet you and have this conversation and I 918 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: feel like you're you're stuck with me now. I'm gonna 919 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: be blowing up your phone when I do start these 920 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: solo trips. But I so appreciate you sharing all of 921 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: your knowledge and your passions, and UM, I can't wait 922 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: to fall on and see what's next in store for you. Guys. 923 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: So excited to finally meet you, Becca. I know it's 924 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: been way too long, and I've just followed you, you know, 925 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: through this tiny screen on my phone for years. So 926 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: this is a pleasure guy. It's always good to sell, 927 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: all right, Leslie, take care, Thank you so much, give 928 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: cute little Norris and kisses from us. You will do. 929 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Bye bye, Catherine. I see why she became 930 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: one of your best friends from the show. Like you know, 931 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: when you just talk to somebody and they just feel 932 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: like good people, That's how Leslie feels to me. Yeah, 933 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: she's real, she's authentic. I love that she's so dynamic 934 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: as a woman and she has this hometown feel. But 935 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 1: she's a very worldly person. It's just she's such a cool, 936 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: layered person. And I'm glad that we got to talk 937 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: to her about a couple of the big things that 938 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: she identifies with, but there's just so much more about her. 939 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: I'm super excited for other people to learn a little 940 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: bit more about her too. Yeah, she is somebody that 941 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: I would say I would definitely want back on the 942 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: podcast at some point. I feel like she just has 943 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 1: this bank of knowledge and experiences, like I could talk 944 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: to her about travel and fun memories, and like you know, 945 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: as you said, she could be our travel concierge once 946 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah put in her life. I'll be the nanny. 947 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: I'll take care of Nora when she's kicking ass. But 948 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: I know that you guys had such a strong friendship, 949 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: so I'm really glad that you were able to connect 950 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: with her and bring her on today. It was so 951 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: much fun, and Catherine, thank you for hanging out and 952 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: being my co host for these next couple of weeks. 953 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who we have on for 954 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: all of our listeners to tune into in coming weeks. 955 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: It's going to be fun and I absolutely adore you 956 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm so honored that you filled this role and 957 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: stepped in to join me for these next few weeks. 958 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: So thank you and to all of our incredible listeners. 959 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: As always, you guys, please keep writing to us and 960 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: letting us know your thoughts maybe who you want to 961 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: hear from as guests on our podcasts as well. If 962 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: you don't know where to find us, you can look 963 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and apt Batch happy 964 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: Hour on both Facebook and Twitter. And if you guys 965 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: never want to miss an episode, please don't so You 966 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: can subscribe to us on all of our podcasts. You 967 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wandering App, 968 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening to us right now. Thanks guys, 969 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: Thanks Becca,