1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: When you are at war, you commit great sins. What 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: does God think about me since I've committed these sins? 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. Special guest Bernie is back. It's 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: in fact, you're not even special anymore. We're just normal, 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the non special uh normal normal guest Bernie. And you 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: were on a few weeks ago and you were you 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: just finished or you were just about to go on 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: this run, and then everyone was worried about you, thinking 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: you might die, and so they were emailing like how's Bernie? 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: And then people are talking to me at meet and 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: greets like how's Bernie? Haven't heard anything? So can you 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: give a little recap? 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll give a brief little recap and you 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: can follow us on Instagram. It's at Burn and Coco 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: and then well we have a lot of stuff from 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: the race on there, and we're actually going to start 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: doing these little segments called Coffee with Burn where it's 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: me just kind of talking about the things I call 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: you and talk about like these little nuggets that I 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: find in the woods that are like, oh man, I 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: wonder if the world needs that. So yeah, I go 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: follow us there and keep up. But oh man, there's 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: so much I did make it. I ran a good 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: race preparation for. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: The people that don't know how far was it. 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: So it was thirty four miles, there was over five 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: thousand feet of elevation. It was on a single track, 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: you know, trail run in Cleeborn, Texas. It was awesome. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: It was really awesome. I went in with a good 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: kind of race plan, and my plan was stay humble, 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: don't go out too fast, and try to finish strong. 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: And I think that, especially this being the first ultra 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: of this link that I've done, there's always and maybe 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: this is true for life in general, but there's always 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: a tendency to just go out too fast, and when 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: you get into an ultra marathon, just can't do that. 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna burn out, you're gonna blow up, your muscles 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: are gonna crash, and you're gonna have to DNF and 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: not finish the race. And so, man, it took everything 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: in me those first you know, twenty or fifteen, sixteen 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: miles to just let people pass me and just kind 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: of find my pace and be like, okay, this is it. 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Set the ego aside. 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Set the ego aside, And oddly enough, I didn't put 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: this together until I was actually on the trail, but 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: months earlier. You know that I take like a verse 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: and I'll just like rest on that verse for like 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: a month or two. Well, I was on Isaiah forty 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 2: thirty one. But those who wait upon the Lord will 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: renew their strength. They will rise up on wings like eagles. 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: They will run and not grow weary, they will walk 52 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: and not grow tired. And I had been on that, 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: so I got on the trail and all of a sudden, 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: all I heard was that verse over and over. Just wait, 55 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: just wait on the Lord, he will renew your strength. 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: And you know, for whatever reason, I got to about 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: mile twenty six and some I mean, I can't explain it, 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: like it was euphoric. I felt like I was running 59 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: the first mile, and I ran that last eight and 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: a half miles fifteen minutes faster than the previous eight 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: and a half miles. It was like some of the 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: fastest of the race. And so there was this constant 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: like just stay humble. My mind is telling me, dude, 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: you need to push. You got more in the tank, 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: keep going, but it was like no, just wait, just wait. 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: And then I felt like the time came and I 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: pushed and I finished strong, and it was a really 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: great experience. It likely, Lord Willing, won't be the last 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: one that I do. 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just. 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Had a blast. 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: So first meal you had when you finished, first meal 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: was what a burger order? 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: It was a huge like, uh, what's the spicy, sweet 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: and spicy double cheeseburger, French fries. 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: A milkshake. 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't think I did a milkshake. I could 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: have done a milkshake, but I ate so much for 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: the next week, like I kind of said, you know what, 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: just let let yourself go a little bit, you you know, 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: kind of pushed her in training. So I ate what 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: I wanted. I drank what I wanted, I slept in, 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't really exercise. I did like a 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: few three mile runs just to kind of like shake 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: out the muscles. But yeah, it was. It was a 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: good burger. I'll tell you that, I'm bad. I had 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: earned it. 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Bernie over here, David Goggins, Now. 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: No, not even close. But I appreciate the support, guys. 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: It was. 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: It was really cool fun to hear from you. 92 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Guys. Everyone was because you literally did this podcast a 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: few weeks ago and then went and did that run, 94 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: and then I came back and did a solo podcast 95 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: the next week and they were like, oh, how's how's Bernie. 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad get the recap and I think some of 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the knowledge that you learned on that run will come 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: out in the question today. I'm positive they will at 99 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: some point. And that's what we do on this podcast 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: is answer your questions, and you could email your questions 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: to Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com. If we don't 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: have anything in front of us, we're just going to 103 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: talk it through like we're just friends. Okay, I'm going 104 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: to randomly go through these in the first one with 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: the subject line of this one questioning God's plan, Hey Grandeer, 106 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: my name is Toner. That's the last name I'll go by. 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: I'll be thirty five in September and I've never had 108 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: a serious relationship. All my friends are getting married and 109 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just left on the sidelines. Everyone 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: asked all the time, when am I going to be next? 111 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: I have a fear that God doesn't have anyone planned 112 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: for me and that I should be forever alone. I've 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: been on several dates, but it was with the wrong girl. 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to pray for God to give me 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: patience or just trust he has a plan for me. 116 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: I've recently felt a calling back into student ministry, and 117 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: it's been fun helping out youth as a youth pastor 118 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: by being a positive influence and sharing my testimony because 119 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I went through there. This is 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: this is now on a deeper level. I also have 121 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: tickets to your show in Tulsa, Okay, Toner, Let's focus 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: on that first part. Thirty five years old and single. 123 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: This is what's interesting, Bernie. This is what he says, 124 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: like there's always a line in one of these questions 125 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: after by the way, one hundred and ninety, that's the 126 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: episode one hundred and ninety. Oh, so after one hundred 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: and ninety of these, there's always sentences that pop out 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: to me. And you probably know which one I'm talking about. 129 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: It's the one that says, I have a fear that 130 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: God doesn't have anyone plan for me and that I 131 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: should be forever alone. So let me just ask you 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: back another question. If God has a plan for you, 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: which here's your sentence, God doesn't have anyone plan for me? 134 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: So if that is God's plan, would you reject his plan? 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Would you consciously revolt, rebel against his plan? It's an 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: interesting thought. I'm not it's rhetorical, but this is us, 137 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is what we do. We go, we go. 138 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I trust God. I see this so many times in 139 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: the questions. Somebody's typing a question right now as we speak, 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's saying, I trust God, but there's always a 141 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: butt but but I don't know this or I'm fearful 142 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: of this. So what do you say to this guy? 143 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: Burns as he says, maybe I'm going to be single forever, 144 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: forever alone and that's God's plan, and I fear that. 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Right first, I think it's I think it's okay. These 146 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: what you're feeling is legitimate. 147 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: You're human. 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: We've talked before about these, these things of fear and faith, 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: like it can sometimes it can be both. But I 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: think Granger's hitting on this idea of contentment that he's 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: talked about many, many times on the podcast. What if 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: that is God's best for you is to live your 153 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: life without a wife, without a partner, or whatever are you? 154 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: Would you be content with that? I guess the other thing, 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: the other question would be, like Granger said, or would 156 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: you kind of rebel against that and not accept that 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 2: and and ultimately that would come down to not trusting 158 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: that he loves you and has your best at heart 159 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: in his plan. I think that this is a place 160 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: where Toner just has to kind of spend some time. 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: And I think it's okay to wrestle. You read through 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: the Psalms like David wrestled with God a lot about 163 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: and question things, and so I think the best thing 164 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: that you can do is kind of wrestle through this. 165 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: If there is that desire, you know, continue to pray 166 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: about it. But I think there's a bigger heart I 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: don't want to say issue, but I think there's a 168 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: bigger opportunity for you to understand your heart and the 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: current position of your heart towards God through what you're 170 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: feeling right now. So I would just press in, Yeah, 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean you're thirty five, like I want to say, 172 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: you're still young, because you know. 173 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he might have expected us to just go straight 174 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: in and be like, no, you know, you'll find somebody, 175 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: you're young, You're everything's gonna be okay. And so but 176 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: before we do that, and we might we might agree 177 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: to that, but before we say that we got to 178 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: first just say, but would you be cool being part 179 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: of God's plan? Period? Like nothing else after that? Would 180 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: you be cool with that? It's like this, you know London, 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: My daughter, she doesn't do good with dairy products, but 182 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: she loves them. And so when me and Amber are saying, now, 183 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: you can't have ice cream tonight. You can't because you're 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna wake up in the middle of night with a 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: belly ache, and she's like, no, but I want ice cream. 186 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: Am I never gonna have ice cream the rest of 187 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: my life? And we're like, listen, we're talking about tonight, 188 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: and you cannot have it tonight. This will affect you. 189 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: You will wake up with the belly ache. And she 190 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: doesn't remember that, and she can't see that. We say 191 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: that because we love her, because we care about her, 192 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: but she doesn't see it. She doesn't trust it, she's 193 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: fearful of it. And it's the same thing. We do 194 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: this with God all the time. It's interesting. Bernie brought 195 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: up the psalms and David wrestling with God. I heard 196 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Tim Keller this morning saying in a book that he 197 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: wrote that having doubt in you would be like having 198 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: antibodies in you. It's like basically what he's saying is 199 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to be someone that's that 200 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: has zero doubt at all, zero fear, zero doubt, nothing, 201 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: because that's like a body without antibodies. And you then 202 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: are very open to an attack at some point because 203 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: your whole belief system could come crashing down because what 204 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: that small sliver of fear in you does, and I 205 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: don't want to promote fear, but what it does in 206 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: you is it makes you wrestle with it makes you 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: attack it. It makes you dig and learn and read 208 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: and think like Bernie going on this, you know, thirty 209 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: mile run and he's thinking and he's wrestling with verses, 210 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: and revelation comes through that wrestling. If you don't have that, 211 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: if you're like, no, I'm pretty it's like spiritually I'm 212 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: pretty perfect. Like you don't have I don't have anything 213 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: that all the scripture just I'm on good with it all, 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: then you're in a really dangerous place at that point. 215 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a great analogy. Those antibodies are what 216 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: are killing the virus. Yeah, so there are these these 217 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: untruths in your head, the wrestling, the antibodies, this this, 218 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: this is actually what kills the things that are not true. 219 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: So but here's here's the last thing I'll say to Toner. 220 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: What if. 221 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: You decided you made the choice God, I am all in, 222 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm I'm content in you, and maybe maybe I'm not 223 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: right now, but give. 224 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Me that heart. 225 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden God started to speak to you. 226 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: He started to reveal things to you, and you started 227 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: to write those things down and you started to develop 228 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: this heart that was so passionate for the gospel that 229 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: He took you on these adventures that you never thought. 230 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: That you published books that were best sellers, that you 231 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: that people knew who you were because of this mission 232 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 2: that you were solely focused on. But you were single. 233 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Much like Paul. This is the same story of Paul Right. 234 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: He was solely focused on this message and it it 235 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: took him to places and it brought things out of 236 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: him that we still read and we still are inspired 237 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: by today. Toner, what if that? What if that is 238 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: your story? But you're too busy focused on suburban two 239 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: and a half kids with my family just live in this, 240 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: you know, typical American dream life that you're gonna miss out. 241 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: He says, like everyone asks all the time when I'm 242 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna be next. No, stop that, stop listening to that, 243 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna miss out that you can't follow social media 244 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and listen to all these people. Bernie's right, Granger's right, 245 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's look to another one. Uh. This is 246 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: interesting subject line savior complex. Hey Granger, my husband and 247 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: I are a big fan of your podcast in the 248 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: Smiths and recently went to your show in Louisville. I 249 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: want to ask ask a question regarding my brother in law. 250 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: He is a very kind hearted and selfless person and 251 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: has been a Christian since he was a young kid. 252 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: About nine years ago, he began a relationship with a 253 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: woman who claimed to know Christ, but is very clearly 254 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: not living a christ like life. She goes out to 255 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: bars four to five days a week. She also spent 256 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: a year in a rehab program from meth and alcohol. 257 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: My brother in law has a savior complex and has 258 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: paid for everything for her, all of her nights out 259 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: to the bars, her rehab, and even some of her bills. 260 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: She talks to other guys while out and has cheated 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: on him multiple times. This is very She is very 262 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: clearly using him, but is also very clearly controlling him. 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: She gets angry at him for spending time with his 264 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: family and we don't get to see him very much. 265 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: What can we do as his brother and sister in 266 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: law to help him get out of this situation? So 267 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: thank you. This is Ashley. Thank you Ashley. This is 268 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: similar Burns to a question that we got a few 269 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago about the son in law who was to say, 270 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: some Satan worshipers. Yeah, right, yeah, And we could probably 271 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: give a similar answer. In fact, the Gospel is going 272 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: to always be the answer. And sometimes Bernie and I 273 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: will say that very clearly, and we'll go straight to 274 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: like the actual cross, and then sometimes we'll say it 275 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: more metaphorically and what the implications of the cross mean? 276 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: What am I talking about? Right? Let me get to 277 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the point. The only way that this that this woman 278 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: is going to be healed is through the Gospel. The 279 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: only way that your brother is a brother in law, 280 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: brother in law is going to have his eyes opened 281 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: to the world is through the Gospel. So what do 282 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: you do? You speak the Gospel, you live the Gospel, 283 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: and you love like the Gospel. You love as a 284 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: person that has been redeemed a person you I'm speaking 285 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: to you Ashley. You don't deserve Christ, you don't deserve Heaven. 286 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: You don't deserve a relationship with God. You don't deserve 287 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: to be worthy of any of that. Now, neither do I, 288 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: neither does Bernie, neither does anybody. We were born rebels, 289 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: we were born sinners, We were born not worthy of heaven. 290 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: But God and his grace and his mercy sent his 291 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: son to be a substitution for us, so that in 292 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: him we are worthy. We are full of grace, we 293 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: are full of hope. Right, that's the story of the Gospel. 294 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: So you look at her and you skid. She's in 295 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: rehab and she's tearing him down. She goes to bars 296 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: four or five. I go, Yeah, you could do anything, 297 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: including worshiping Satan. Like we heard a few weeks ago, 298 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: you could do anything when you're outside of Christ. So 299 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: what you do is you appropriately speak truth to them. 300 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: That is your only answer. And now there's a thousand ways, 301 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: a million ways to act that out, but that ultimately 302 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the foundation, that is your only 303 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: answer is to do this in love. 304 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good. I For some reason, I'm reminded 305 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: of something that Tyler David at the Stone said this 306 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: was probably a few months ago and it was just 307 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: kind of the opening of his his sermon, and for 308 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: some reason it's really stuck with me. And I think 309 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: we talked briefly about the bridge, right, like, you know, 310 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: we go we go to Sunday service, and we hear 311 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: these these things about Jesus, and we about you know, 312 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: propitiation and about you know, sanctification. We hear about Heaven. 313 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: We hear about these very high and lofty things, and 314 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: then we immediately we go to lunch. And it probably 315 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: takes till Sunday evening or Monday that the very like 316 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: earthy and real tangible, taking kids to soccer, to school, 317 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: relationships with our brother in laws, like the these things 318 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: start to kind of like they feel so separate, they 319 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 2: feel so different. It's like this, this is eternal and 320 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: lofty and this is like here and now, and I 321 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: don't know how to go through this. And so what 322 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: Grangeer and I have been talking about is, Okay, well, 323 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: how do we how do we communicate a bridge? What 324 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: is the thing that bridges this what can seem like 325 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: a gap between these two. For some reason, I'm thinking 326 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: about that with you, Ashley, and how do you take 327 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: the things that Granger has said and bring them into 328 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: just like the earthy humanness of relationship with the brother 329 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: in law. 330 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: One. 331 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: I think you you could just start with praying. I 332 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: don't know if you have prayed for this guy, have 333 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: prayed for this relationship, prayed for her and prayed like, God, 334 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: what do you want me to know about this? And God, 335 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? Don't over complicate it. 336 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: But I think when we can be humble enough to 337 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: just kind of sit and wait on the Lord, like, God, 338 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? Just practically and 339 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: maybe it you know, like we want her and we 340 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: want him to hear the gospel and for it to change. 341 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: It's probably not going to happen outside of a relationship 342 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: that is covered in grace and love and mercy. It's 343 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: the same as our story. So if you can have 344 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: that lofty eye idea in mind, but then bring it 345 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: to something that's very Hey, do you want to come 346 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: home for dinner and just have that dinner be so 347 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: significant to them, for them to feel so provided for, 348 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: for them to feel protected, that was a safe place. Hey, 349 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: you want to do this next Sunday? 350 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Next Sunday, night. 351 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: I guarantee you if you begin to just practically earthy 352 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: hands and feet serve them and love them and show 353 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 2: them grace and a safe place. In that way, it 354 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: will provide the opportunity to either show them or to 355 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: speak truth into their lives. But even if it doesn't, 356 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: this is what the word calls us to do. I 357 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: think we so often like, Okay, well, we got to 358 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: do this in order to get this opportunity. It's like, no, 359 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: God just calls us to do this part. Allow him 360 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: to do the rest. 361 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: He might. 362 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: He might not move in any one of these people, 363 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: but that's not our place. That's not what we do. 364 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: That's not what we're called to do. Just be the 365 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: hands and feet of his grace and allow him to 366 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: do the rest, and and just rest in that. 367 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: Ashley, let me tell you something that you might not know. 368 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Your brother in law knows that you hate his girlfriend. 369 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: You might not realize that, but it's obvious in your 370 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: email that this consumes you. He knows that. So what 371 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with that? What are you gonna 372 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: do with the fact that she he knows you don't 373 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: approve of this at all? And this has been almost 374 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: a decade. Have you ever built him up? Like, have 375 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: you ever been out with him and just been like, 376 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: you are a good catch. You're such a I mean, 377 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: you're handsome, you're smart, you you're really good at this, this, this, 378 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: these talents you have, you're you're just you're just a 379 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: good guy. Have you ever said that to him? Have 380 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: you ever built him up? Or is it always she's 381 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: doing this and she didn't the blah blah blah nine 382 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: years of this mess that you've gone through. I wonder 383 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: it's just questions I have. So what Bernie's saying is, 384 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: how do you act that out? Can you act out 385 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: out with love? Can you invite them over for dinner? 386 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Can you put aside all of this anger that you 387 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: have for this relationship in general and this woman? Can 388 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: you just stop it and see it looks like you've 389 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: probably tried everything else you might consider trying love. 390 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, one last thing I'll add, And this is like 391 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: a nugget from the trail when I was running, just 392 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: thinking of life. We've heard it's not a sprint, it's 393 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: a marathon. I don't think it's a marathon. I think 394 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: it's an ultra marathon on a trail and here is why. 395 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: You know a few things. 396 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: One, it's really long guys, you know, even a short life. 397 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: It feels like, man, there's a lot of suffering that's 398 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: going into this if we're doing it right. It's not 399 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 2: a straight line. There's there's paths in this relationship that 400 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: will wind ways that you don't really know, and there's 401 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: going to be a bunch of climbs and a bunch 402 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: of descents. But also on a trail run. Much in life, 403 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: you always always have to be aware that there are 404 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: snakes on the trail. And I don't know these people. 405 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: I don't know y'all's relationship. But if there is a 406 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: sense that you have that there are boundaries that need 407 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: to be put in place, that's okay. That's an okay 408 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: thing to recognize and to put in place. I'm not 409 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: calling these people snakes, like please stop sending your email 410 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 2: back to us like I don't know. I'm just speaking 411 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: generally that we do need And this is something I've 412 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: personally experienced and learned from, is that it is okay 413 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: to have boundaries with people that we feel like. 414 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: We need to have boundaries for it. Let's take a Break, 415 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: Beer It Back podcast is sponsored by Better Help. You know, 416 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: getting to know yourself could be a lifelong process, especially 417 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: because we're always growing, we're always changing. We see from 418 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: these emails in this podcast that somebody's always going through 419 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: something that's usually teaching them something in some way. 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We're gonna walk through it. 464 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: We're not always right, but we're gonna walk through it 465 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: as friends would and discuss whatever is on your heart, 466 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: whatever's on your mind or in your life. And we 467 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: see that it's kind of all over the place. 468 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: Did y'all hear that? 469 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: He said? 470 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: Any subject you can get as creative anything you would 471 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: ever want to ask granger Smith. 472 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: Go for it. Here we go. Subdecline says a high 473 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: school junior who loves someone. Hey, Grainger, my name is Joshua. 474 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm seventeen years old. I'm a junior. I hope your 475 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: day was good. But there's a girl. There's the question, right. 476 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: But there's this girl that I went to prom with 477 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: and it was fun. But I asked her out and 478 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: she said she'll think about it, and then next week 479 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: she got with my best friend. This girl means a 480 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: lot to me. This was back in March. But should 481 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: I keep waiting or try and move forward? I don't 482 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: really know what to do. Thank you for taking your 483 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: time reading my email. I hope you have a good 484 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Joshua, thanks for emailing, brother. 485 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go back to Somerset earlier. We always 486 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: advise to wait on the Lord. We do not advise 487 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: to wait on seventeen year old girls. Not for a minute. 488 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. Yeah, that's the new theme of 489 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: this podcast. Wait on the Lord. Don't wait on your 490 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: girl to be seventeen again to have this kind of problem. Buddy, 491 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: you were going through something that you must go through 492 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: and you that's really interesting actually, because I'm actually writing 493 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: a paper in seminary and the paper is going to 494 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: be called there must be Battle and you. Not only 495 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: is this is this a scenario that's possible for seventeen 496 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: year old boys to go through. Not only is this 497 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: something that is suggested that maybe it could help you, 498 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna suggest to you that you have to 499 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: go through this at seventeen or somewhere around here. You 500 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: have to know what it's like to be rejected or 501 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: to be hurt or to see her go to another guy, 502 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: because this is gonna work for you. It's gonna matter 503 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: to you later in your perception of girls and relationships 504 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: and so so you can't see it now, but I 505 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: want to encourage you that this is actually good. This 506 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: is a good thing. And the fact that she goes 507 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: to your best friend, hang on. You asked her to prom. 508 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: You went to prom. That's kind of a big deal. 509 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: You go to prom, right and then the next week 510 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: or you asked her out. She said she'll think about it. 511 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: Then she went with your friend. Buddy, this girl is 512 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: not for you and you shouldn't wait on that. There's 513 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: a lot more girls. 514 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna give you, Joshua, the greatest advice 515 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: for a seventeen year old boy that has ever been given. 516 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: Learn to play the guitar. You learn to play the guitar, 517 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: and you are gonna have girls all around you. And 518 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: you tell her eat your heart out. Baby. You had 519 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: your shot. 520 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: At the kid. 521 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: You only get one and you just sing and sing. Dude, 522 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: pick up a guitar, buddy. 523 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: Learn the guitar. Bro. That's a great piece of advice. 524 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: Let's move on here. Septicon here, says friend in need. Hey, Granger, 525 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I've got a friend that's a war veteran and he's 526 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: been looking for an answer to a question of his. 527 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: The question is, when you are at war, you commit 528 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: great sins. What does God think about me? Since I've 529 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: committed these sins. He's been searching for an answer for 530 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: quite a while, but has yet to find a good answer. 531 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: He's read the scriptures, he knows the stories, but he 532 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: has not heard a message from God. I cannot help him, 533 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: for I am not a Christian myself, but I know 534 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and can see that it causes him distress to think 535 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: that the sins he has committed can never be redeemed, 536 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: and that pushes him towards that pushes him from Christ. 537 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: He feels that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, 538 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: but only to protect the flock from other wolves. If 539 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: you can give an answer to this and show him 540 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, that may give him some consolation. Thanks. 541 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: Interesting question, But I know that this is probably European. 542 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: This is not American because of the name here. Floky 543 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Flo Okay, I so, okay. There's so much packed in here. 544 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: It's very interesting and one of the interesting things about 545 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: it is the fact that I'm pretty sure you're not American. 546 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: And only only in America would someone pretend to be 547 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: a Christian in this email. And only outside of America 548 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: would they say, can you help him? Because I'm not 549 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: a Christian? And so, first of all, kudos to you 550 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: for calling it like it is. And then there's something 551 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: else that's kind of facked into this question when he 552 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: says he's been searching for an answer for quite a 553 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: while but has yet to find a good answer. Let 554 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: me just hang there for a second. He's searching for 555 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: quite a while yet to find a good answer. How 556 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: many of y'all have said something like that. Here's what's 557 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: interesting about truth. It is objective. Truth is truth. It 558 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: is objective, So we don't search for the best version 559 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: of the truth. That would be strange to search for 560 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: a subjective truth. And what it almost sounds like is 561 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: that he's been asking the question but no one's given 562 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: him an answer that he agrees. 563 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: With, even the scriptures, because it says that he he's 564 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: read the scriptures and he knows the stories, but he 565 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: has not heard a message from God that is a 566 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: message from God. 567 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so floky without knowing it I hope you're 568 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, by the way, because I'm giving 569 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: you a lot of credit for calling this just like 570 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: you see it and not pretending to be a cultural 571 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Christian in this email. But what's interesting is the email. 572 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: This question might be for you more than your friend, 573 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: but I hope that you hear it and need to 574 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: relay this information to him. What Bernie's saying is there 575 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: is maybe a misconception that hearing from God and reading 576 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: the Bible are two separate events when we know now 577 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: that hearing from God comes through reading the ever living, 578 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: breathing Word of God, which is the Bible. So when 579 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: you read the scriptures, you're hearing from God, whether or 580 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: not you like the information you're reading or hearing or not. Right, 581 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: So that's an interesting concept. You don't even have to 582 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: be a Christian to hear from God. If you read 583 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: the scriptures. Now, your ears might not be opened, your 584 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: eyes might not be open to what you're seeing and hearing, 585 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: but that doesn't change the fact that you are hearing 586 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: from God. So this is what I'm saying. We haven't 587 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: even gotten to the question at all, but there's some 588 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: interesting things packed in here. So truth is objective. There 589 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: is only one truth. So when we search for truth, 590 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: we're not looking to find the best version we like 591 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: to hear or what makes the most sense to us. 592 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: There is only one truth, and in the truth, the 593 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Bible is going to say that your sins are forgiven, 594 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: no matter the cost, because it was paid for by 595 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: the most precious resource in the universe, and that is 596 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: the blood of the Son of God. So if you 597 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: say friend, if you say war veteran, I don't even 598 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: know his name. But if you're saying that your sins 599 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: are so great because what you committed in war, then 600 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Christ death didn't wasn't all encompassing. It didn't matter for everyone. 601 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: That just mattered for some or maybe even most, but 602 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: not for you. 603 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: The death or some sins but not some sins liked. 604 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: Not this bad at sin. So you're saying that Jesus 605 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: died on the cross, I'm not even speaking about my belief. 606 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking about the story as revealed in the scripture, 607 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: the story of the resurrection and the crucifixion. What you're 608 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: saying is going against two thousand years of church doctrine 609 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: and teaching that that knows the objective truth of what 610 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: that word says that Jesus, once again, regardless of what 611 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: you believe, this is what is claimed by Jesus himself 612 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: that when he died and was resurrected, all sins were forgiven. 613 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: It was totally finished. He said, it is finished, all 614 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: of it. It was done in the death of the 615 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Son of God followed by the resurrection. So you come 616 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: in war veteran and say, but not my sins. It 617 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: wasn't totally effective because there was some leftover sins here 618 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: right right then. I'm not even speaking from my own faith. 619 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is what the scripture says. 620 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, if your friend happens to be listening or I 621 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: would love to hear more from them on this. Like 622 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: one thing that you said that they feel is they 623 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: feel like a wolf in sheep's clothing. I think I 624 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: feel like what is happening and this is a war 625 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: vet and I I'm guessing that there has been probably 626 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: some trauma that he's been through. I don't know that 627 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: he's worked through with a counselor with a Christian counselor 628 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: if he is, you know, a believer, but I think 629 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: that I have. I think I've mentioned this song by 630 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: Shane and Shane on here before embracing accusations. And there's 631 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: a line in this in this song that's from the 632 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: Scripture that says, you know, the devil is singing over 633 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: me this age old song that I am cursed and 634 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 2: gone astray, and and what he's referencing is the Old Testament, 635 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: like you know, all who have gone astray are cursed 636 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: in And the song goes on to say, but he's 637 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: he's singing the first verse conveniently over me. He's forgetting 638 00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: the refrain that Jesus saves. And so I think that 639 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: you may have the enemy in your ear war veteran 640 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: saying like you did this sin, You're you're cursed and 641 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 2: God can't save you you because his word says this, 642 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: and you you did this and that's it, instead of 643 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: hearing the refrain that Grangeer is talking about, which is 644 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: the gospel like Jesus saves. And I don't I feel 645 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: like this guy we were talking earlier about Paul with Toner, right, Ye, 646 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: Paul is another character that we can look at that 647 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: that dude killed a lot of people and probably in 648 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: a very different way than you did. So if you're 649 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: reading these stories. I hope that there is some hope 650 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: in reading the story of Paul and what God did 651 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: in his life and his you know, went on to 652 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 2: use him for. 653 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: But I don't know. Yeah, buddy, let me say, let 654 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: me kind of flip the script a little bit too, 655 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: because first of all, you say, his quest is when 656 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: you are at war, you commit great sins. Let me 657 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: change the sentence and make it also accurate. When you 658 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: are a human born of a woman, you commit great sins. 659 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: We are all sinners from birth. We are infected with 660 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: the disease. Yeah. 661 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: I think he's got a misconception. 662 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are all infected with a disease. There is 663 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: a cure, and his name is Jesus. Here's the next, 664 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: here's the next. This is fascinating, Okay, and I'm not 665 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: going to hold anything back on this, But you say, 666 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: what does God think about me? Since I've committed those thins, 667 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: those sins wrath, the wrath of God is upon you 668 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: and everyone. If you're not under the grace of Jesus, 669 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: you're under the wrath of him. It doesn't matter what 670 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: you've done, because sins are sins, and you are born 671 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: a sinner. You're born a rebel and you were born. 672 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: We said, last break not worthy, undeserving, but through the 673 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: blood of Christ, who accomplis who defeated death in one moment, 674 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: completely destroyed it. In trusting in that you have been 675 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: redeemed and restored and ransomed from your old self. You 676 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: became a new self, a new creature. So you turn 677 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: from your old ways. You turn. That's called repentance, and 678 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: that's a response from the salvation. So that's how you 679 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: know the salvation worked because you seeing yourself starting to 680 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: hate it. So my question to the veteran Bernie would 681 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: ask the same thing. If we were live live podcast, 682 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: we would say, those sins that you committed in war, 683 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: how do you feel about it? And if he says, 684 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: I hate them, let me go good. That's exactly where you 685 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: need to be. Yeah, and we should say that about 686 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: everything are idolatry. You think the things that I start 687 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: becoming that become an idol in my life. I start 688 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: idolizing certain things in my life. Do you think that's 689 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: not any worse to a war crime to God? Idolizing 690 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: something other than your own creator. When I do that, 691 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: that is tyranny, that is sabotage, that is blasphemy, and 692 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: so God doesn't look at that differently. We are rebels 693 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: until we are under the grace of Jesus. So flee 694 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: to him. Run to him as fast as you can. 695 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: Turn from the old self, turn from the old war 696 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: crimes or whatever crimes that you've committed, because we all 697 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: have them, and run to him. Run to him. He 698 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: wraps his arms around you metaphorically, and the grace of 699 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: Him is on top of you. God no longer sees 700 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: your sin. He just sees perfection in his son. That's 701 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: the gospel. 702 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Floky, I guess is the persure. Maybe you could 703 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: just sit and read the scripture with your friend and 704 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: maybe you guys could like talk about it together and 705 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: wrestle through. You don't believe, so no harm, right, but 706 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 2: you're doing it for your friend. Maybe you guys could 707 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: just sit and talk about it. You could ask him 708 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: questions because your view of that could help him to 709 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 2: understand and like really study it together. And your eyes 710 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: may be open to eternal life, which would be awesome too. 711 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: So wouldn't hurt. It's good? Nice question. See what you're 712 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: doing there burning? I see through your way. 713 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: I just say it's just a you know, just an 714 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: option idea. It's what could have. 715 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: Hurt seb Decline says, what's your view as a dad? Hey, Grandeur, 716 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: I'm twenty two years old. I'd like to remain anonymous. 717 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: There's this guy and he's thirty six. He has expressed 718 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: that he likes me through letters and sending me gifts, 719 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: but he hasn't even talked to my stepdad or my 720 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: mom to see if it's okay. He recently came all 721 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: the way from California to a church event that we 722 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: had in our hometown and he even and even then 723 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: he didn't even talk to me what. I'm not interested, 724 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure how to tell him. I know 725 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: God has other plans for me, and he is not 726 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: one of them. My pastors say they are okay with it, 727 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: but my parents and I both agree that's not their place. 728 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 1: My stepdad has really held back from telling me telling 729 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: them anything, and he has told me that God will 730 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: see me through. But how do I tell this guy 731 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: to leave me alone without hurting him? Thanks? I'm sorry 732 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: for the long message. 733 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. You guys, 734 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 2: sin in love it. There's so much going on that 735 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 2: I don't understand in color to this email. This is beautiful. 736 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: Let's break it down. 737 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer. 738 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: So, she's twenty two, he's thirty six. 739 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: Yep. 740 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 2: He lives in California. 741 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: Yep. 742 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: She lives in I don't know, somewhere not California, yep. Right, 743 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: this whole thing was starting off like. 744 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: She loved him, I love him, and they don't. 745 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: Understand, and you know, Romeo and Juliet style, right, take 746 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: a turn, but like, I don't know what the problem is. 747 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: You don't like him? 748 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what this probably is. It's probably 749 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: a product of a like a dating app or social 750 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: media of some sort. That's what I'm thinking. This is 751 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: a product of a dating app. And they met, and 752 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: they he decided to make a trip to from California 753 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: to the hometown to the church event, and then he 754 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: was awkward. He didn't really talk. You've got she's got 755 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: all these people speaking into her life, like pastors and 756 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: parents and step parents. 757 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: And you said her name. 758 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: I know, forget that, I said that. 759 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the deal, Anonymous. If you don't like 760 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: this dude, communicate that to him clearly, and he must 761 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: respect you. If he doesn't, you need to talk to somebody, 762 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: like the police, like the police, or you know, is 763 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 2: she living with her mom and dad? Well, okay, yeah, 764 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: talk talk to somebody and tell him, like, hey, this dude, 765 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: I met him on this app and we met this 766 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: one time. But like I have made it clear and 767 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: he is being aggressive and he won't let it go. 768 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 2: You have got to say something and he must respect 769 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: you one way or another. 770 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: You know what I do like about this? I do 771 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: like that you I kind of almost criticized it, but 772 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: I like that you have a lot of people speaking 773 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: into you, and it seems like a lot of people 774 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: that love you are speaking into you, and you're you're 775 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: kind of getting advice, which you could take with a 776 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: grain of salt, but you're still You're feeling the love 777 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: around you and you're not just isolated. And this situation 778 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: could get bad if you were isolated by yourself. I 779 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: don't like the age difference, to be honest with you, 780 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't like the fourteen years between you two. It 781 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel comfortable. Your subject line says, what's 782 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: your view as a dad? I'm wondering if you mean 783 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: like dad of her? 784 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a home, it's a note. 785 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: Sure, for sure, he's fourteen years older, lives in California, 786 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 1: and he's probably you found him on a dating app. 787 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, so Bernie's right, you need to say it. 788 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: How he reacts to it determines your next step. But 789 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: you could say it with grace and kindness, and you 790 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: could say you could say whatever your name is. I 791 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: just want to be completely honest with you. I'm not 792 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: interested romantically or in a friendship, and I appreciate you 793 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: caring thus far. I think you're a sweet person. I 794 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: am not interested at all, and there is nothing I 795 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: am interested for in the future. 796 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: You're just in all caps. 797 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: You're cutting it off completely and you say best of 798 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: wishes with the rest of your life. 799 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye. 800 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we think we have time to hit one 801 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: more in just a few minutes. Let's do it. 802 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 803 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Okay, this is gonna be a speed one. 804 00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: You guys doing okay out there? 805 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: Thinking handle one? How about one that's called girl Trouble. Hey, Grangdeer, 806 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: A big fan of yours, and I would like to 807 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: remain anonymous. Yes, I'll remember that. I'm from Utah. I've 808 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: been listening to the podcast while my friend recommended me 809 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: listening to this podcast a while back, and quite recently, 810 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: I have discovered I still have feelings for this girl 811 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: that I have known for eight years. We met in 812 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: the fourth grade. I've had deep feelings since we met. 813 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: Seeing that we will be graduating the twenty sixth of 814 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: this month, I feel like I should go and ask 815 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: her on a date. But at the same time, I'm 816 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: confused because I have been single for a while now, 817 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: and it seems that I've decided to I haven't decided 818 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: what to do. I deeply believe in God and that 819 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: he has plans for each of us. Any advice would 820 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and advice. 821 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: God bless you and your family. Okay, well, thank goodness. 822 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: This is the question we get just a couple of 823 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: minutes because we we're going to say, go for it, man. 824 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, go for it. Are we scared? 825 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: Go for it? 826 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why he threw the last part in. 827 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 2: I believe in God and he has a plan for 828 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 2: all of us. Okay, that's great. 829 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: Too, buddy. You need to be vulnerable and be open, 830 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: and I think I think girls are attracted to that. 831 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: If you just come out and say can I take 832 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: you up for coffee? And then she says yes, and 833 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: then you go at the coffee place, you're like, actually, 834 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: you're from Utah, so maybe lemonade you could say? Can 835 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: I be honest with you? I am so intimidated by 836 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: you because you're so pretty, and I've liked you for 837 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: a long time and I just have kind of put 838 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: off asking you because I just think you're You're really pretty. 839 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: And I even emailed Granger Smith to ask him what 840 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: he thought about the situation. So he told me to. 841 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 2: Do it, and I'm doing what he said. Yeah, and 842 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: then player the podcast and you guys go for a 843 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 2: little drink, lemonade, whatever. 844 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's all I got. Man, go for it. 845 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: Go for it. We love you. Go for it. 846 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 2: Y'all are the best Granger Smith fans or the podcast fans. 847 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: If you want to see guys travel and do a 848 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: live version of this in your town, let me know 849 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: comment below or hit me up on Instagram and let 850 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: us know where to go. But we'd love to go 851 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: travel and bring the podcast live to you do live 852 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: Q and A. It would be so fun. Love you guys, 853 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: so you Yeah, thanks for joining me on the Granger 854 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 1: Smith Podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. You could 855 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: help me out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If 856 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: you're on YouTube, subscribe to this channel. Hit that little 857 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: like button and notification spell so that you never miss 858 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: anytime I upload a video. If you have a question 859 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: for me that you would like me to answer, email 860 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com. Ye