00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here. 00:00:13 Speaker 2: Thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're our presences presents enough. 00:00:31 Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 4: To surbey me? Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. I hope you're doing well it we're in the backyard. It's garbage day here on I said, no gifts avenue. So there may be I don't know where we are in the garbage truck cycle, there may be some sort of clanging or crashing, and so just be aware of that. Be aware of the sound level on your car stereo or your earbuds or what have you. I don't want to any damage to your ears. And if it's gar it might be garbage day for you. To be honest, I hope your cans are out. If it's not garbage day for you, that's also fine. Doesn't make you any less of a person. So yeah, what are we talking about? Oh and while I'm just rambling here, if you haven't left a review for the podcast, that's a crime. That is absolutely a crime. You've committed a crime, and you love crime, so I just want you to know that. And let's be honest, if you haven't done left the review, you obviously kind of thrive on suffering, on my suffering. So I just over leaving that there. Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest I find extremely funny and adore. It's Christine Nangle. Christine, Welcome to I said no gifts. 00:02:00 Speaker 1: Thank you. I love to be introduced with. It's garbage Day. I drove up the hill. It was me. It was me. I'm the garbage man and the cans just trash. 00:02:12 Speaker 4: We're both trash, and the listener is just being dragged through to this point. No, it is garbage day. And I hadn't taken the garbage cans out for two weeks. They had forgotten, so they were starting to get a little over you know, they were they were not overflowing, let's be honest. They weren't like but it was time to take them out. This morning, I got them out and I feel very very relieved. And the trash is now being taken away from me. That's good. That's good. 00:02:41 Speaker 1: Oh, I can hear one. 00:02:41 Speaker 4: Now here's the and this is probably there's a good chance the listener is probably hearing the garbage truck as well. There's so many garbage there are three different cans. Is that Does that mean there are three different trucks that come by. 00:02:54 Speaker 1: Yes, I call them bins because they're like, well, yeah, I guess there was a boxy rectangle shapes. 00:03:01 Speaker 4: Right, and the bin or the can is more something to Oscar the grouge lives in. Yes, yes, and then so there's a bin a can. Is there another word that I've already said for garbage pale? 00:03:15 Speaker 1: He say pale it's a small can. 00:03:19 Speaker 4: It's interesting because there's a whole group of kids named after the garbage pale. But I don't know anyone that's ever used or like referred to just the garbage pail without the kids. 00:03:30 Speaker 1: I think when Oscar was a baby, he lived in a garbage pail, and then, like a hermit crab, he had to go find a bigger trash can every time he he grew a little bit. That's why he's so miserable. 00:03:44 Speaker 4: That makes perfect sense. 00:03:45 Speaker 1: It's probably a regionalism, like saying pale versus bin versus you. 00:03:50 Speaker 4: Know, can trash. 00:03:52 Speaker 1: I feel like I always said pale about a small like a little trash can in a room that wasn't the kitchen. 00:03:57 Speaker 4: You would call it a pale, yeah, probably interesting. 00:04:00 Speaker 1: Or an outdoor an outdoor little outdoor trash can. Yeah. 00:04:05 Speaker 4: I don't know that I would ever call anything a pale. H. But you're from the East Coast, I am, I'm from the Mountain West, and I guess maybe the pale is more. I mean, you're closer to England. Pale feels like something you would do in the UK. 00:04:18 Speaker 1: You live beyond the pale. Sorry, yeah, I apologize. 00:04:22 Speaker 4: It's trash day, okay, So pales, pales, pales interesting. What's going on with you? 00:04:32 Speaker 1: Not much? Today? Is the is the summer solstice? 00:04:37 Speaker 4: That's right, longest day of the year. Yeah, very hot. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm only saying that because I saw that today and it increased my guilt about like never going outside. Like it probably sounds like I was bringing that up to be like so I got my cards read and I'm an aquarius, But it's because I was like, oh man, this only makes me feel worse about like having my my life drawn and just like chilling in the air conditioning. 00:05:03 Speaker 4: I mean it is, I mean, it's maybe or the last I checked maybe ninety two degrees. But so I was worried about this recording. But currently I'm not too hot. I was expecting to be full sweat, both of us, just looking to get out of this until we get into a fight. 00:05:19 Speaker 1: Wait, did we get these back and forth, these rallies going. 00:05:26 Speaker 4: There's something we have to I would love to discuss with you, something that's taken over my life recently. I've become completely obsessed with Tetris. Ah, have you ever played Tetris back in the day. 00:05:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:05:36 Speaker 4: I was talking to our producer on a lease before the podcast about this, and it's especially the only thing that is occupying my time right now because I didn't expect this. I got a new version of Tetris and can't stop playing on what are you playing on? I'm playing it on my PlayStation, but I think you can play it on anything. And I got it about a day and a half ago, and it's all I can think about. That's what it does. 00:05:59 Speaker 1: It It gets into your brain and then you start solving them, like when you're not. 00:06:03 Speaker 4: Even playing, trying to think about being better at and just thinking about the experience. It's one of these I haven't really become obsessed with something in a long time, and this is something I have to like will myself to stop. You've been obsessed with anything recently, well, I can relate to being obsessed with Tetris. I remember when I was a kid, we had Nintendo and I gave up. I was like, you know, we played my brother and I played Contra a lot, oh, of course, and we played this Aladdin game we had, but we also played Tetris. We also played this Carmen San Diego game. But I remember feeling like I knew it was a problem. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: I played too much and Tetris was one of them, and I gave it up for lent. I gave up Nintendo like we would call like Nintendo's, Like I gave up all my Nintendo's for lunch and then just like never got back to it. And I don't know what grade that was, fifth or something. But then like since then, I've gotten addicted to like little phone games I got. I feel like, uh, crossword puzzles on my phone. I have to do one every single night in order to fall asleep. 00:07:11 Speaker 4: Are you doing a big crossword puzzle or. 00:07:13 Speaker 1: Small the New York Times one? But I only do or I mostly only do Fridays and Saturdays because then that's how I feel challenged, right. But it used to be that I would kind of have to finish it in order to go to sleep. But now it's like a comical thing where the instant I find myself nodding off, I like super quickly, like throw my phone on the other pillow and like close my eyes, like oh it's coming, it's coming. Here we go and it works. 00:07:41 Speaker 4: Wow. What's your feeling on the New York Times Mini Crossword? 00:07:48 Speaker 1: It's trash day. Get it out of here, No, thank you, I'll save that for Alzheimer's. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: Elitism on display here is sickening. 00:08:00 Speaker 1: But I'm also I'm addicted for sure to TikTok too. 00:08:04 Speaker 4: Wait, oh, you're addicted to TikTok. 00:08:05 Speaker 1: I don't post anything. My account is just like, you know, a nothing account, and I just it's it is like it's an I don't know if addiction is word, but it's like it's like a little dopamine machine. What are you really interesting? 00:08:19 Speaker 4: What do you have particular favorites on TikTok orre there certain categories of things you like watching on it? 00:08:24 Speaker 1: Have you been on it. 00:08:26 Speaker 4: I downloaded it in maybe mid twenty twenty. For truly six seconds I opened it and it was just like truly like the noise and the visual. I just had to delete it immediately. 00:08:36 Speaker 1: Yeah. I only got into it recently because a good friend of mine is a singer and she posts videos of herself singing. Oh, and then they do this thing called stitching, where like somebody will play a song and then you can stitch it and you play, you know, yourself singing with their music, and then somebody would stitch that and it's them adding a harmony or something. It's really a cool like way to see people who don't know each other like come together stuff. And so that was kind of like a non intimidating intro for me. And then probably like through Twitter, I would like, you know, people link to like funny dog videos or things like that, but it really curates your for you page really well and really quickly, and so I get mine mostly dog videos, videos about stretching your lower back and hips, videos about about add ADHD and like how to kind of like tips and things like that, videos about keeping your kitchen clean, and like a bunch of feminist. 00:09:39 Speaker 4: Stuff, right, Yeah, and have like, for example, the kitchen thing, have you learned any good tips that you've been able to take into your own life or so like I wish I could do that, but I'm I'm not actually going to use that skill. 00:09:50 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not on Instagram, right. I was on it for like a hot second like ten years ago, and like it just made me feel bad instantly, and I put it away. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: Hasn't changed, yes, And it always. 00:10:03 Speaker 1: Just makes you feel like I'm not doing things right or like oh I should be doing something else, or I don't know how to do the thing that everyone else does. So I like that whole idea of like a perfect kitchen or perfect anything, Like I don't buy that. I don't buy into that. I also think people look kind of corny when they have everything perfect right. But what I've really gained from from TikTok is like there because like I have eighty HD and like there's this one woman in particular, I forget her name, Casey. Her name's Kate case and she talks about how like things being disorganized are messy is morally neutral. 00:10:44 Speaker 4: Oh interesting, and like it's. 00:10:47 Speaker 1: She just like really like she shows you her house and she's it's like messy, she's got kids, and then she'll be like, all right, let's do let's do a fifteen minute cleanup. And then she'll just like put it in whatever fast motion and you'll just see her kind of straightening up or just like kind of sending it in a way that's like, you're not a bad person if you have dirty dishes. And I think because just because I grew up Catholic, everything becomes a moral issue. 00:11:07 Speaker 4: Guilt guilt, guilts, right. 00:11:08 Speaker 1: And and it kind of like people just talking about the reframing things in terms of like your life, you feel better when things are orderly, like take care of yourself, yes, and not that like I'm painting my life is like a hoarder pig stye. It's not that at all. It's it's just that the anxiety around that costa of course. So for me, it's really like been therapeutic. I mean that you have a lot there's a lot of corners of TikTok, but this is the one that's been like and I also get a lot of menopause stuff, which is I guess on the horizon. 00:11:41 Speaker 4: I don't know, but maybe it knows you better than you know. Yourself. 00:11:44 Speaker 1: I know, gotta check my cycle, but yeah, yeah, I don't know. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, I somebody said to me, like, the reason you make your bed is not because for other people to see. It's like for yourself, and if you don't care about your bed being made, then don't make the It doesn't matter exactly. So that's basically Also, it's kind of a license to do not do a bunch of things around the house for me. Yeah, I mean I like things to be tidy, but I'm not like an obsessively scrubbing floors this kind of thing. I'm like, if everything feels basically put away, I'm happy. Yeah, I guess that's kind of how I play Tetris. I'm not that gamekeeps giving me a D every At the end of each round, it says I got a D, which makes me feel a grade and you're talking like I did pretty well this round, and then it's like you've got a D which are on speed I think speed and maybe combos of you know how many Tetris you get. I wish the grade didn't show up because I'll feel like, wow, I've really gotten better at this game every single time at D Yeah, which is a rough feeling to get from Tetris. But that aside. Again, I love the game Tetris. I love this new version of Tetris. But you're on TikTok. You've become obsessed with TikTok. Maybe I need to give it a shot. I do feel like no, I mean that's how I feel. Like, yeah, I mean, I'm on Instagram and people be like, maybe I need to get back on Instagram, Like why. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: I mean, like I was I have you know, it's you know, like pre pandemic, even you especially like you know. I had worked with two women on a show and we had became great friends, but then the show ended, so then we kind of like went our separate ways. We kept in touch a little bit, and then we were texting a couple months later and one of them said something I can't remember, and I was like, all right, next thing, you're going to tell me you guys are both engaged, and they're like we are, Like they were both and got engaged to their boyfriends like around Christmas time, and I just didn't know because I'm not on Facebook, I'm not on Instagram, and I can't really up not mad at them, but like I just felt sad. I was like, oh my god, like because I can't handle being on Instagram. I'm missing all these updates of people's lives. And I don't blame them for not telling me. Like it's like totally you know, makes sense that people'd expect people to you know, what's happening because of like they're putting it on social media, right, right, So like I can see the upside in a way, but ultimately, like I don't know, but in terms of like this stuff that we were talking about, like keeping the house tidy and stuff, like, I find there actually has been a difference for me because I just like removes the stress from it and I actually kind of enjoy like straightening up or I under it just like makes me calmer. 00:14:26 Speaker 4: About it right where it doesn't feel like work as much. Yeah, yeah, I think like also the like the idea like growing up your parents, it is a job for you to do around the house, and it's a miserable thing. 00:14:36 Speaker 1: And the year's a way to do it right, and there's way to do it wrong right, and then like it's taken me like this long to be like it's just okay, you're not doing anything wrong or right. You're just making sure there's no roaches, like it's cool. 00:14:50 Speaker 4: Is there a particular household chore that you hate doing that you refuse to do. 00:14:54 Speaker 1: I don't like cleaning out my reusable straws, so they'll just sit there and like soapy water for a long time. 00:15:03 Speaker 4: To use the little like brush thing that comes with reusing the. 00:15:06 Speaker 1: Store, I'll have one and it's looking at me. I'm just like, i'll do you later. So or sometimes I'll put them through the dishwasher like every time, and I'll just like let them go it through a few times. But I don't know, how about you. 00:15:20 Speaker 4: That's a good Actually, I can't say that's a good question because I was the first person to ask. But let's give credit where credits do. I had an excellent question, and so now it's everyone's asking it. It's the new trend. What do I not like to do around the house. I don't like to take out the garbage. I really don't. When my boyfriend is in town, he's out of town right now. He's the one like that's his big job. That's such a relief that he does all the time. When I'm in charge, I wait for those bags to be absolutely packed before they're headed out. 00:15:51 Speaker 1: What do you mean out of the house, out of. 00:15:53 Speaker 4: The house, right into the trash cans or the well, not into the pails, We've already discussed that, but into the into the garbage void. That's the one thing that I really put off to the very last second. I don't mind vacuuming. That feels kind of like mowing the lawn in the house. I don't like making the I mean, I don't mind my mind. Excuse me, I don't mind making the bed. It's like scrubbing the shower. That kind of thing is kind of a pain. 00:16:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit like I feel like this is probably bad to compare to but like broken windows theory, where it's like, if like the kitchen's already a little messy, then I'll just make it messier or whatever. But like, somebody had this advice years ago to be like just like time yourself doing the dishes. Have you ever heard this? No, just or like time. See how long it takes to load the dishwasher right or unload the dishwasher. And it's like way shorter than you possibly could ever imagine. 00:16:48 Speaker 4: It's like a millionth of the amount of time you spend looking at the internet every. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: Day, right, or even stressing out. I mean, like I don't feel like doing it. I for doing it. Like by that time you would it would have been done, which unfortun our moms were all right about. But like, and now it makes sense to me because I'm like twenty year old therapists explained it that way, but on TikTok. But yeah, it's hopeful. I don't know why am I talking about this, you asked. 00:17:12 Speaker 4: I know because I asked you the question sweeping the nation. Well, there's something else we do need to talk about, an important question that I have for you. Sure you agreed to be on the podcast at some point in the near the near past, or maybe the distant past. I can't remember when you actually agreed, but I was very excited. I thought Christine's fantastic. She's so funny, she's a nice person. She'll come over. We'll just have a chat, maybe each have a glass of water at the move on with our days and then lives and so. As I was preparing for the podcast today, I was thinking, it's gonna be ninety two degrees. I hope we're not uncomfortable. And then I get out to the backyard and think, oh no, this will be a nice time until you come kind of marching into my backyard holding a bag, obviously very happy with yourself, a big smile on your face, and it to me. You know, this podcast is called I Said No Gifts, so I was a little surprised to see you holding what I'll say is an incredible gift bag with it's kind of a pink bag with some are these leopards or cheetahs? 00:18:24 Speaker 1: Leopards? 00:18:25 Speaker 4: I believe these are leopards. I feel like if it were a cheetah, they probably would have illustrated it running. 00:18:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, with a little running mind. 00:18:31 Speaker 4: These are just kind of growling by a bush, some sort of flowery bush. Is this a gift for me? 00:18:38 Speaker 1: It is? But I know what you're gonna say. I we didn't talk about you didn't invite me personally, Okay. I got an email from Patrick at Aill's and they told me that it was I Said No Gifts. Okay, But they could have been sabotaging me, right. I don't know these people. I could have shown up without a gift, and they're like Christine. The podcast is called I Said Gifts. I didn't know that. I don't trust these people, so this is just heading my bets. Keep it or don't. 00:19:08 Speaker 4: Okay, So this is kind of a shotgun of blame happening here. Everybody's getting hit. Okay, well should I open it here. 00:19:16 Speaker 1: On the show? 00:19:17 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, let's get into this gorgeous bag. On Ales, do you mind holding that? Okay, we've got some tissue, crinkling, crinkling, crinkling. This is an audio fast for the listener. Eat up. You won't hear this for another week. Okay, we've got the tissue. I'm reaching in wait, I wait, okay, and I'm okay. So initially, thank you on Ales. I did not recognize the item because it's kind of bent in half. But now I'm realizing what I think this might be. Yeah, is a grabber. It's a grabber. What's going on? 00:20:09 Speaker 1: Do you already have one? 00:20:10 Speaker 4: I don't. I haven't seen one of these. I feel like my oldest brother had one of these in probably nineteen ninety three from KB Toys. It was kind of neon orange and he would use it to bother us. 00:20:23 Speaker 1: It's the same one, and. 00:20:25 Speaker 4: Here's your brother. Here you go. This is incredible. Tell me everything about why you brought this. 00:20:33 Speaker 1: Well, this is so. A grabber is one of those things looks like kind of a gun, but you you pull a trigger and it can grab it. Is it working? 00:20:39 Speaker 4: My first attempts at a grabber in years. I'm gonna put the microphone down. 00:20:44 Speaker 1: They say the grabbing is the first thing to go, so i'd be worried. 00:20:48 Speaker 4: Okay, it guys that the water bottle is way too heavy, I think, or. 00:20:52 Speaker 1: Get it close, use that. Yeah, there you go. Oh it's not gonna oh it's. 00:20:56 Speaker 4: I mean, this is a full water bottle. I'm gonna try to grab got the phone, grab this? Oh my god, we're grabbing the phone. Look at this. Well, you have to learn, you have to learn. This is not it's not just you know, you're not immediately. Okay, maybe I can grab this cord here, it's at this. 00:21:17 Speaker 1: It's not not grabbing. 00:21:18 Speaker 4: I'm grabbing. It's not literally grabbing. I can grab at you. Kind of a three D experience, bring you towards me. Okay, I feel okay, I'm I'm grabbing. I'm grabbing. I'm grabbing, and I'm learning. Yeah, could I grab your knee? Okay, mm hmmm it's freaking that's the sound of the grab This is okay. So I kind of cut you off in my through excitement here. 00:21:42 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure it works. So last year I had back surgery kind of like an unexpected her needed a disk. It was the whole thing. But my friend Allison has livey. 00:21:55 Speaker 4: You know, oh, I know we've never met, but she's so fun. 00:21:58 Speaker 1: She's the best. 00:21:59 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:21:59 Speaker 1: She has had several back surgeries in her life. So she was like I was texting her constantly and she recommended this and she also sent me a really nice, like fluffy robe after I. 00:22:11 Speaker 4: Got, oh excellent gift. 00:22:13 Speaker 1: It was the best gift. It couldn't have been better, but she like knows she's been through it. So I got one of those and it was it was I was like hilarious, and I have to get one of these grabber things. And it could not have been better or common handy more. It was awesome. And it's one of those things that I think people should have it because you never know if you're gonna need it. So like you know, picking like stuff off the ground because like you know, you drop things all the time, you've ever picked up And I'll realize it, but like we're just picking like my dog's toys up off the ground or reaching thing. It's really great. And even if you only need it for like the day your back hurt's really bad, it's worth It's worth. 00:22:49 Speaker 4: It reaching things. I bought a stool about a like a kitchen stool, about a year ago, and it was I was like, oh, this will be fine, It'll be like I'll probably need it. It was genuinely exciting to have around the house. Or it's like a new piece of technology where it's like I can now reach anything. I felt like I had a super power. Yes, And I imagine this is going to be the same thing where I'm there are a lot of things, especially in the kitchen, where I'm like on my tiptoes and I'm like, this is gonna fall on my face and I should just not be lazy and get the stool and this, this grabber gun can be my new little friend. 00:23:19 Speaker 1: I hope. So I mostly have experience with picking things up off the ground with it, not from reaching. 00:23:24 Speaker 4: Kind of a difference in perspective. You're always looking down, I'm always looking up. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: Yes, it's classic euys, But do you have a dog or I do have a dog. I found like my dog's always ripping the stuffing out of his toys and stuff or just moving things around. I found it just really helpful and like picking stuff up, putting back in his little toy basket, or it's phenomenal socks off the ground and putting in the you know, launchy pile. 00:23:48 Speaker 4: I've got kind of roller blinds in my living room that are very hard for me to reach. Suddenly nothing, everything's within reach. My dog has two of those hard bones that are kind of then that she'll chew on and then leave wherever. And it feels like as close as I'm going to get to have having a kid leave their legos around the house. I'm like, that's going to end up in my foot at some point. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: Ye. 00:24:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is the perfect device. Nyla bone is that I think it is a nyla bone. It's like I think it's mildly peanut butter flavored. I don't know how that works with the plastic and the rubber, but the dog scientists they do it, do it all. She has those two things, and then she's allowed two toys at a time. 00:24:26 Speaker 1: Nice. Otherwise she's you're very restrained. 00:24:30 Speaker 4: Do you spoil your dog for some reason? I know that you're a dog person, yeah, but maybe it's you're just kind. 00:24:35 Speaker 1: I don't have many aspects to my identity. I really don't. It's sad and I'm from Philadelphia, and I say it must be nice. I know, I swear there's more to me. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: Those are just the. 00:24:49 Speaker 1: Two deepest things. Yeah. I have my my dog, Philby, and I definitely like I spoil him in that he's got a lot of f physical problems and I have to pay for help. 00:25:04 Speaker 4: Oh, like, what sort of problems does he have? 00:25:06 Speaker 1: Well, he's he's eight and a half, but he is a pit bull mix and he has these front paws that turn out, they don't go forward like he's in a little ballerina. Yes, and so that throws exactly, and that throws off his whole body, you know, structure. And at some point in a couple of years ago he had two slip discs, one of his next neck, one in his lower back. And so like he just has to take him to physical therapy. He gets acupuncture. But if you met him, you'd be like, this dog is fine, what is her problem? 00:25:39 Speaker 4: Wow? Like mother like son? 00:25:41 Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, yeah, we have a lot of the same issues. Like so he can't do any kind of stairs, okay, and so I had to move into a house that didn't have any stairs, and he can't have any not slippery surfaces, so I have to have rolls everywhere, or like when I first knew was like when to ross and bought like fifteen yoga mats, just put them all around the house. So it's he just so it's like spoiled in that sense, right, just prescription of food, but not like he doesn't have like a big princess bet or something. 00:26:14 Speaker 4: Right, he just has a lot of things that need to be taken care of. 00:26:17 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah. 00:26:18 Speaker 4: Have you had him since he was a baby? 00:26:20 Speaker 1: I got on when he was like six months. 00:26:22 Speaker 4: They say, oh, yeah, that's so cute. I feel like I've seen a picture of him before for Twitter. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Our dog is an American bulldog and she's eight years old. Knock on wood. No giant health crises yet. She did have kind of a benign tumor which was taken care of, but now she isn't qualified for pet insurance. Do you have pet insurance? 00:26:44 Speaker 1: No? You believe it? Yeah, I don't believe, and I think they used to work for it. He doesn't have a job. If he had a job, he could get insurance. That's how this works. Uh, No, I had so he also has over the years, it's kind of waned. His allergies, like seasonal allergies or allergies to food. But when I got him at the No Kill La shelter. 00:27:05 Speaker 4: That's where we got our dog. 00:27:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. They gave you a week or so for a month free of this health insurance for pet and or something like that. It was a while ago, and also you have like your first bet appointment free at certain vets. Somehow, in between getting him and taking him to the vet and then like trying to activate the health insurance, they found out about all of his issues. So everything was a pre existing condition and it was like a three day mishapped. And then it was just like, well, everything's wrong with him. So I just never and so instead I ended up working very hard a lot on. 00:27:47 Speaker 4: Jobs right paper kind of finance his health problems. Yeah that's fine, because I'm sure he's wonderful. 00:27:54 Speaker 1: Oh he's the best. He's the best. Everybody loves him. 00:27:56 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just fall in love with the dog and the price. Price no longer matters exactly until you're in financial ruin named it's destroying your life. But yeah, so did your dog? Did he have a name when you got him at the shelter. 00:28:11 Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm not the biggest fan of changing a dog's name, but his name was Chubby. It's not a good name, not to mention he wasn't Chubby, not that if he was Chubby, he would deserve the name. Not that there's anything wrong, not that I mean Chubby is. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: A let's that is a good name for that man. 00:28:31 Speaker 1: But uh so, anyway, I wanted I think it's fun when dogs are named like boring person name, so I was gonna maybe name him Phil. And I also like when dogs have titles, like, you know. 00:28:45 Speaker 4: Like mister doctor doctor. 00:28:47 Speaker 1: Well not doctor Phil, but I was gonna call him mister Phil. And then my sister head has rescued dogs, and she, I don't know where she heard this or if this is just her experience, she said, if you keep the last syllable the same, it's easier for the dog to learn their new name. Oh interesting, So that's I combined Phil and Chubby. And that's where philby came from the sure it's really it's just a funny. But then I found out I told this story a bunch of times. Kim Philby was the the name of this like notorious like double agent, British spy. What we like in like the cold beginnings of the cold fifties, I guess sixties. 00:29:26 Speaker 4: The cold the classic period of world. 00:29:31 Speaker 1: The freezing fifties, and uh, he was like a British intelligence agent m I five or whatever, but he was actually secretly working for the Soviets. Was a bad guy. I think, like a lot of the like Lakari novels are like kind of partly based on his life and his espionage. And so sometimes I'll meet people and they'll be like, like, like the spy, and I'm like, no, I'm not like the spy. 00:29:57 Speaker 4: And I told him taking offense to that I told the story of. 00:30:00 Speaker 1: Recently you're already told it, But like I used to live in Manhattan and I was on the Upper West Side walking him and this woman was like her little girl wanted to pet the dog, So, okay, what's his name? 00:30:13 Speaker 4: Philby? 00:30:14 Speaker 1: And the woman goes like the spy and I was like, well it was kind of an accident. But I didn't know for a little bit. But you know, most people don't know this, so it's like interesting that you know the name. And she's like I said, I don't meet a lot of people that know that the spy based off my dog's name. And she goes even on the Upper west Side, and I still don't know what that means. 00:30:36 Speaker 4: I don't know everyone on the Upper west Side. That's the one thing everyone knows on the Upper west Side. There's this one very small piece Cold War history that's crazy. So how do you respond to that. 00:30:52 Speaker 1: I don't know. 00:30:53 Speaker 4: We need to take a survey of the Upper west Side. 00:30:57 Speaker 1: It was such a great moment. 00:30:58 Speaker 4: Wait, what is this Philby person? His first name Kim Kim Philby, Kimberly Philby. 00:31:03 Speaker 1: I don't know if Kimberly, if it's Kimbridy. 00:31:05 Speaker 4: Maybe that's a man, Okay, Kim Kim Philby. Wow, Well we've all learned a little something. Outside of our listeners of course on the Upper west Side, who are all kind of screaming at the podcast. We know this, We moved through it. This is boring information. That is such a bizarre thing to say. Edie et Edie had two names prior to us getting her, which neither of us knew. My boyfriend named her. He got her before we a month before we met, but we didn't realize. You it's not as great to change the dog's name. But her name was Sierra, and I'm giving away some information about my dog, and I apologize to my dog. She may not want this information out there. But it was Sierra and then Diamond, neither name. I'm that crazy. 00:31:50 Speaker 1: That's when she was a stripper, and you don't want people right. 00:31:51 Speaker 4: Now they are kind I mean, Diamond is kind of a pro wrestler name. I feel like there's to have been a Diamond. 00:32:01 Speaker 1: It sounds like the three names of like in the evolution of a woman's show business career. You know, then you have to land land with Edie and just be like, I'm Edie. Everybody loves d uh yeah, so how did you How did he come up with Eadie Grey Gardens? 00:32:20 Speaker 4: He loves Greg Gardens. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh. 00:32:24 Speaker 4: Yeah that the Grey Gardens Ladies as a namesake, I don't I'm not entirely on board with because we love the Grey Gardens Ladies, but you know, their lives were kind of a disaster. 00:32:35 Speaker 1: Oh, were they double agents for the Brute for the Soviets? 00:32:38 Speaker 4: Who knows, There's no telling, but of course you know there was a region of Manhattan that may be able to share that information with us, reach out. If either of the Edies was working for the Soviets, they could have been anything could have been happening in that house, right, Raccoons everywhere. They were very kind of overtly patriotic in a way that felt suspicious. I'll say that, I feel like there's a Fourth of July celebration in that documentary that now thinking about it as a giant red America. 00:33:09 Speaker 1: We love it America more. 00:33:13 Speaker 4: Okay, So I've got this grabber you used to pick things up from the ground. I will use it to get things out of the cupboards while I'm baking in this kind of thing, getting a little box of baking soda. 00:33:24 Speaker 1: And may it only be in good health and not because you've injured yourself. 00:33:28 Speaker 4: The injury is coming for me. The back surgery is terrifying to me. Yes, and you didn't see it. 00:33:36 Speaker 1: Coming, and they made me do it to myself. How it's so scary. I was like, I don't know. 00:33:41 Speaker 4: We're one of the world's best surgeons. 00:33:43 Speaker 1: I mean I was an urban studies made. Yeah, it was it was scary. 00:33:50 Speaker 4: What how did you injure your back? 00:33:51 Speaker 1: Can? 00:33:51 Speaker 4: I ask? 00:33:52 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure to be honest. There's this like disc degeneration is a thing that people have. And the way they explain what the discs are is they compare them to jelly donuts and there's like a gel inside that kind of you know, helps with the you know, cushioning and you're moving and stuff, and a herniation is when the like jelly kind of gets out. 00:34:13 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I had no wise, A lot of. 00:34:15 Speaker 1: People just live with them. I mean, like it's you hear about like psiatic pain and stuff like that, but this one was just so severe that I had to get surgery. And it was like I wasn't having a whole lot of back pain, but my leg was really tight and my leg hurt, and then over the course of like a few hours, I just like couldn't move and I was in the worst pain in my life, and like crawling around and I couldn't even like I couldn't even get myself or even with help to get to the car to get to the hospital. Is the only way I would have gotten to the hospitals if like I had an ambulance come. So it was just it was horrible. I had like callouses on my hands and knees because I had been crawling around. I ordered how long, Well, it was like a week before I finally maybe less than a week before I finally went to urgent care. But it was like my friend had just had surgery and had some lefto and I do not like taking pills. 00:35:12 Speaker 4: Right, I'm reading about the sacklers. 00:35:14 Speaker 1: Now, Yes, the sacklers were helpful in this case because it was I needed to take something in order to be able to get into the car. So my friend Jess Conrad came over, put me on my rolling chair and wheeled me out to the car. Like I couldn't walk, And I feel like, I mean, I've had I've had injuries before, but you're like limping or whatever. 00:35:33 Speaker 4: Like it was no. 00:35:36 Speaker 1: And they took me to she took me urgent care. I was like laying like face down in her in her back seat and then I had to like like kind of she had kind of helped pull me out of the backseat onto the wheelchair that she had gone in to get and out in like the parking lot, and a doctor comes out and is like, you're in too much pain. We can't help you. Just to die, yeah, just like like trying to keep it together, and like she's like you can come in, of course we will, but like we can't really give you much more than like Adville or something. You need much more pain medicine. And so then it was just basically they had just stuffed me back into my friend's backseat and they're like, you have to go to an r and they you know what's nearby? It's Cedars and Hospital City, Hospital City, USA. But it was like that one was was two miles away and Cedars was three miles away. So I was like, let's just go there because like I couldn't. It was really hard. And then I went there and they were so useless. They didn't even touch my back. It was just happening. I don't need to get into all this, but it was a really crazy thing where I was. I mean, I couldn't even sit in the wheelchair, was like kind of like on my side and I was clenched like clutching the side, and I was just tears just streaming out my face, and they just like parked me in the waiting room and this poor this woman was there with her kid. I think I think she was there to be seen. I think the kid was sick. But I couldn't move and this kid is like right there just looking at this lady tearstreamer down her face, and I kind of was like, I'd love to move away from this kid. Who's gonna be talking about this on a podcast? But then, yeah, it was, uh just it was so useless, and I I have never been in a position, in a position where I had to Basically, I'm very much like, okay, no, I'm not in pain. It's cool, Yeah, I'll lay on the street. But I was like, you know, they gave me like a shot of something, and then they kind of treated me like I was lying or something, and I was trying to get pain meds. 00:37:41 Speaker 4: I guess, lady. 00:37:42 Speaker 1: It was really like, I don't know, I must have looked a mess or something, but they were like just gonna send me home with some pain meds and that was it. But I knew something else was wrong, but like he's like, okay, so we're just gonna send him home, and I kind of for the first time ever, was like no, I can't, I can't for you, And of course this is all like COVID masks and everything, and and then he's like it was like a it was like a game of chicken. He's like all right, and then he like goes and comes back and he's like, well, we can take you to a pain center. And I was like, Okay, it's gonna take a while. Okay, we're gonna have to like taking an ambulance. Great. It was just like staring at the exactly like I was like, I am not lying about this. I just this whole experience, as crazy as it was, I mean there's there's even like other crazy things that happen. It only made me feel like I'm so lucky. Like every single thing that happened. I was like, oh my god, imagine if like my eye was different in my life was different, and like, but the luckily, my boss, Matt Selman has had the same surgery as I did, like ten years ago, so he recommended his surgeon, and his surgeon immediately saw like the uh and there's something i't if you feel this way. But like when I finally saw the MRI and doctors were like holy shit. It was like so validated. You know, we're on your face because I kind of It's like it wasn't enough for me to be like, I can't walk. So you know those little scooters in a gym class that you sit on and you're like, I ordered one of those from Amazon. I could like put my arms on it and push myself around with my knees like prior to the surgery, prior to the surgery, before I understood before, when I back, when I thought that this will pass. It's like I couldn't sit on it and move my legs like, you know, I had to like my arm I built up my armsht a lot. I just had to put my hands on it and like crawl. But uh, it wasn't enough for me to think, like all of these crazy things are happening, I'm the worst pain of my life. I like needed a test for me to be like, okay, good, I wasn't pain, right. 00:39:47 Speaker 4: It's like what would have convinced them in their minds that there was an actual problem. 00:39:53 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't even know that my leg I couldn't feel my leg. I didn't even know until like a couple of days later. I saw a different doctor and she's like, and you you probably can't feel this, and she like touched my left leg and I was like, oh no, I didn't really I've been so focused on everything else. But this I saw this this doctor. He was great. He's like, you need surgery right away, And like, you know, I did some research, but and I also have two trusted friends We've had similar experiences. So I decided to go, you know, have this surgery with the doctor. And I found out only after the fact that do you remember a couple of years ago one of the times I guess this happened, but Harrison Ford crashed his plane onto a golf course, you forget, So my surgeon was the one that saved his life. 00:40:35 Speaker 4: What I didn't even know that so was he was Harrison first name? Basis was he gravely injured in that plan? I think he was just beat up a little bit. 00:40:47 Speaker 1: But it was the kind of thing where they had to get him out of the car because like it was like an old school like World. 00:40:53 Speaker 4: War two, right, kind of red baron. 00:40:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like you know, like my doctor was was there, Like, oh god. 00:41:01 Speaker 4: Your doctor, it wasn't in the surgery. 00:41:06 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know why. I am like, I wish I knew that before I went in, maybe just because I thought it'd be funny, but like I found out, like when I went back from my like check up and he there's a Harrison Ford thing and he's like, oh, look at this is before I knew. And he he shows us this thing and it's like a cameo and it's Harrison Ford going Happy Birthday, Sanjay. Not everyone can say they saved my life, but you did, and I had, and I was like watching it and I'm like, so we're the Harrison Ford's doing cameos. That's like kind of sad. And then I like he's he plays it and then I'm like, oh cool, is that what movie is that from? Because it's like, what does he know this actually happened? I was like what. He's like, yeah, no, I actually pulled him out of a burning. He's like, I assumed you knew that, And I was like, oh, so He's like most people that like look me up, this is the first thing they find, but like I didn't have to look him up because my my friend recommended. 00:42:02 Speaker 4: And you were in complete agony and nothing matter. 00:42:04 Speaker 1: Totally, and I just was like, no, why would I have known that? That is so cool? And so I guess, you know he made on this video for his fiftieth birthday because saved his life. But it was one of those things where I guess other people ran to help too, but they had to like put dirt on the engine so it didn't explode like that kind of thing. And then, of course, like I was so excited, I told my mom, and my mom had the most mom response, which was like, well, now he's going to be telling people he saved Christine Nangle's life. 00:42:32 Speaker 4: That's so you've got to send him a cameo. 00:42:37 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll get really high and stupid. And I was like, Hi, Sange that everyone can say they they fixed someone's my l five S one, but you can Well, what. 00:42:49 Speaker 4: You need to do is crash a plane near him. I'm working on it. You've got that's in the works. 00:42:54 Speaker 1: But unfortunately it's going to be in his backyard. 00:43:00 Speaker 4: Has Harrison been back behind what do you call not behind the wheel of the plane, at the yoke of a plane, in the cockpit, in the cockpit since I don't know, I hope not. I hope that was his last flight. 00:43:11 Speaker 1: Not. 00:43:12 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know that he should be flying planes anymore. I don't know why he was flying the Red Bear and through Los Angeles in the first place for kicks. I guess scarf in the air well, I'm well, that's thrilling. What Doctors of the Stars. Yeah, it was really funny. Wow. Well, okay, I think it's time to play a game. Okay, let's play a game called Gift Master. I need to number between one and ten from you. 00:43:38 Speaker 1: Uh eight, Okay. 00:43:39 Speaker 4: I have to do some light the lightest of calculating. So in the meantime, you have the mic. You can promote something, recommend something, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:43:48 Speaker 1: Oh okay, make your own popsicles. It's fine that you can get popsicle molds. What I like to do is make a smoothie first and then put it in the popsicle mold and it makes the popsicle really like substantial and delicious. So that would be my first piece of advice. Check out the show that I work on as this new startup animated project. It's called The Simpsons. It's I think people are gonna like it. Check it out Animation Domination on Fox Okay I could. No, I wasn't prepared for that far. 00:44:30 Speaker 4: That popsicle recommendation is great. I've never thought about making the smoothie and then just freezing it. 00:44:36 Speaker 1: Yeah, and actually I was gonna bring you popsicle molds. I try to get popsicle molds, but they were like sold out everywhere. I could go to Santa Monica, William's, Sonoma, but I just didn't feel like that jibed with my personality. 00:44:47 Speaker 4: Four hour trip to get some popsicle molds. What sort of molds do you have? What do they look like there? 00:44:54 Speaker 1: There's like plastic. It's hard to not a fun show or anything. No, although that's a great idea. Yeah, I every once in a while I'll get those those smoothies day deliver the daily harvest. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure. 00:45:08 Speaker 1: Back when I was like working out pre surgery, I would drink them and feel great. But then now I just mix them with booze or the popsicles out of them are both. 00:45:16 Speaker 4: But yeah, wonderful suggestion. And yeah, we've got the Simpsons that I think they're on their fourth episode, so check that out while you probably gonna be cancel comment. Okay, this is how gift masters. I'm gonna name three gifts you can give away, three experiences items what have you. And then I'm gonna name three celebrities okay, famous people or whatevers, and you're gonna tell me which gift you're gonna give which person and why does that make perfect sense? 00:45:45 Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, and I can get it wrong, right. 00:45:48 Speaker 4: There's no You're not gonna get anything wrong. This is very much a beautiful we're painting with our minds. We're giving gifts, imagining and enjoying ourselves. The gifts you're giving are a food dehydra raider, which I have actually been circling purchasing recently. Number two is a little less conventional pre cognition, so to be able to see future events before they happen. 00:46:13 Speaker 1: And then fine, I can see you getting a food hydrader pretty soon. 00:46:18 Speaker 4: So you yeah, you've been around the block with pre cog. 00:46:21 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:46:23 Speaker 4: And then finally loose fitting veneers, so somebody gets veneers and they're not quite secure, and you'll be giving them to the following people. We're scrolling through the doc. This thing has become so unwieldly it's probably gonna burn my computer down. Let's see we're getting down to the celebrities. Okay, here we go. Today's celebrities are number one public nuisance, Kirk Cameron, number two Lorraine Brocco, most famously known as doctor Jennifer Melfi in The Sopranos, and finally, Lakeith Stanfield, a fine actor. 00:46:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would say the precognition I would give to Lakeith because I want him to do well and be happy, and I think I want him to stick around Hollywood for a long time. 00:47:15 Speaker 4: And he seems kind of level headed. Yeah, he makes good acting choices. He's usually in just in good projects, So it feels like someone who can be trusted with. 00:47:23 Speaker 1: He can be trusted with. 00:47:24 Speaker 4: The knowledge of the future. 00:47:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he doesn't need it, because maybe he. 00:47:27 Speaker 4: Already has, oh my God, to find that out. 00:47:30 Speaker 1: He already like has good foresight about what he wants to work on, right, But yeah, sure we'll give him that, Okay, And the food dehydrator can go to Lorraine Brocco because she's on the go. 00:47:44 Speaker 4: She's on the probably busy, busy busy. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: And the loose fitting veneer should absolutely go to Kirk Camera. 00:47:53 Speaker 4: He may already have them, really, I mean he seems like somebody who probably has he probably got some cut great veneers, some you know, desert dentists. 00:48:04 Speaker 1: He should have fluse spitting veneers in his mouth and in other parts of his bad other or if has deserved. 00:48:11 Speaker 4: Them, teeth just falling out from every hole. 00:48:15 Speaker 1: Excuse me that that's mine? Can I have? I have a veneer? I don't know type for another quick story. But of course, so I have these two veneers that I am like, kind of really self conscious about and like don't like, but I got them. So these two teeth on either side of my front teeth, I forget what they're called. 00:48:36 Speaker 4: Are those of the canine teeth the most exciting. 00:48:39 Speaker 1: Tooth of all, in between the canine and the front tithes? 00:48:41 Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's so it's probably like the K eight, Yeah, right, the six or whatever. 00:48:47 Speaker 1: So uh And then I don't know, I think this is like a family thing where like one of my siblings, like theirs, didn't like come back in after they lost their baby one or whatever. So mine are really small naturally. Wow, And I've always been self conscious about my whole life and like had braces and so I've always just had weird shoes with my teeth. But then when I finally got a job where I was like like a real job or making money, I was like, oh my god, I'm going to get those two teeth fixed. And I was fine, Like I was happy with them for a while. They just weren't done well. And this one's like a really weird shape and I really stress about it too much. But eventually I'll get to fix. Because the thing about the Valveniers is they're so expensive. But then you have to get a replaced at some point, which means you need to have money then too. 00:49:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to plan for the future. I never have an. 00:49:32 Speaker 1: Idea that I'm gonna have any money at any This is how I feel, just constant fear. They can't wait for my ruin. Yeah, everybody's gonna find out. Like some I always say, like I'm gonna get a knock on the door and they're gonna be like, oh, sorry, this life was meant for some Christine Negel, you're the nangle. It's a common mistake. And I'd be like, yes, okay, I'm already packed. But anyway, they they, uh, so you have to get a temporary one first while they're making the real one, and but they have to like grind down if you have experience with vine. 00:50:02 Speaker 4: I've heard I know a little bit about it, and it's scares me to death. 00:50:06 Speaker 1: Yes, So they these two teeth that I already felt were like so small. They had made them even smart to put the temporary ones on, but they kept falling out, and you loose fitting temper even ears. The one kept falling out, and I remember I had just seen Toy Story three and I was all emotional. I was walking home. I stopped at a bodega on the way home. I like was talking to my friend and it flew out. And so me and my friend are like on the like street, like trying to find it on a hands and knees and like we've we found. Like some guy pulls up and I'm so self conscious when it's not in the right I think everybody's like looking at me or whatever, and he's like, okay, when we're just like no, fine, dropped my earring and he found it, put it in my pocket because I can't put it back in my mouth, say goodbye to my friend, and and I'm like, I'm gonna stop at a bodega and get some flowers. I don't know, because I had just been crying sobbing. 00:51:06 Speaker 4: Right, toys get burned today exactly. 00:51:09 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get flowers, and I was getting flowers and this guy just started, Like I mean, I lots of ladies are used to street harassment. This guy was like it was intense. It was so bad that like when it's so persistent, you know, like something's off with this person. And it was one of those things where like I'd be like no, thank you, no, and he would be like into my uh like moxie about it, you know what I mean. He kind of was saying like, oh, yeah, you got that. Yeah, and so like to the point where like, you know, the flowers are usually outside the bodega, and I like went inside and there's men working there. Nobody's doing anything, of course, and I'm like without my tooth in but I'm standing there just screaming at this guy to go away. I'm kind to call the police, like whatever. Everybody's watching it happen. But the whole time I'm like also covering my face a little bit so this man who is harassing me won't see that I'm missing a tooth. 00:52:04 Speaker 4: I want you to see me at my best. 00:52:08 Speaker 1: And he eventually went away no help from any of the men. One woman that was in the bodega was like, are you okay? And I was like, which way are you walking? And we like walked home together, Like I just love that. Like none of the guys even wow. They it looked like I was having problems with my boyfriend or something. 00:52:27 Speaker 4: Which still someone should probably step in, but it's like gotten to a public level. 00:52:31 Speaker 1: But they were like, we're not gonna get involved with this crazy lady. She's missing a tooth, most of a tooth. No, but it's just like shows, it's all in your head, Like I could. I feel like everyone was looking at me. But that's my experience with getting veneers. So that's one of the reasons that I'm like not excited to get them replaced. 00:52:47 Speaker 4: How often do you have to get them replaced? 00:52:50 Speaker 1: I just really it's been like ten years. I just really hate it, especially the one, because it's just it's a weird shape and it doesn't fit. 00:52:58 Speaker 4: You have excellent teeth. I would have never guessed this one. 00:53:01 Speaker 1: Everybody go on line, look a picture for me. 00:53:03 Speaker 4: If we've got to get some zoom ins. 00:53:04 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. The shape is weird. My new dentist hates it. She's like, she's like if you well, I was like, I'll just I want to get it fixed. And then I had I chipped my one of my front teeth when I was a kid, so painful. Yeah, it was bad. I remember like thinking like I was going to get in so much trouble. 00:53:23 Speaker 4: We trusted you with those teeth. 00:53:25 Speaker 1: I didn't, but I always have to get every couple of years, I have to get that like fix with like just a little bonding or whatever. And she's like, well, it will be much easier if we just did the front four teeth. So I was like, wait, like grind down my front teeth and she's like yeah, and like something about gumb surgery and she's like, it's twenty twenty two. There's no reason you shouldn't love your smile. 00:53:48 Speaker 4: And what about the costs, the pain. There's like a huge list of things. The fact that your teeth are fine. 00:53:55 Speaker 1: I was like, because like you know, if you grow up with an issue you it's always going to be there. So like you know, I had a huge gap between my teeth, like you know whatever. But like I remember just be like okay, okay, because I'm always so stressed out with the dentist anyways, Sure, and then I like get my car and I'm like, I just don't. I just don't think I should do it, as if like. 00:54:14 Speaker 4: You're being bullied. 00:54:16 Speaker 1: I was totally being bullied. It was like, I think I should stand up for myself. And I was like, oh, like if you just if you didn't grow up with money, like you can't, why would you mess with perfectly good tea? 00:54:26 Speaker 4: Of course, And it's going to be literally thousands of dollars. It's like I'm spending that on teeth. I already have them. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: It would be like, gosh, I think it's like eight thousand dollars to tooth or something. Oh and then so in my mind, I'm like, okay, that's twenty eight thousand dollars. And then I would have to have twenty eight thousand dollars in twenty years and like probably. 00:54:44 Speaker 4: Because let's face an inflation and talk about inflation. 00:54:48 Speaker 1: But it's all it's all cosmetics. So it's all like who cares this at this point? But yeah, it's the only reason I'm not a movie star is one weird tooth and also, I don't really am not an actor. 00:55:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that yeah, I had no idea. You have great teeth. Oh, thank you, that's very nice. I chipped a tooth in eighth grade. Somebody punched me in the stomach and I hit a uh, the top of a locker. It still remains mildly chipped. I'm just gonna live with it. And then I had braces and what I have you. But I think everyone's very sensitive about their mouths. You know. You know, you go out to dinner, you constantly think about if something's in your mouth. And I'm trying to get to a point at least if I'm with a friend, if they have something in their teeth. I'm just telling you, that's a nice thing to do. It feels like such a betrayal. If you get in the car after dinner and you had something in your teeth, It's like, yeah, so those people don't care about me. 00:55:35 Speaker 1: It's like from from Missus Doubtfire the whole time. 00:55:39 Speaker 4: Does Missus Doubtfire have something in the teeth? 00:55:41 Speaker 1: No, there's the time. There's the part when Sally Field finds out that it was her husband, and she's like, the whole, the whole time. Remember it's in my head forever. 00:55:53 Speaker 4: I was thinking, a, is there a huge plot lineup Salt like Field or missus Doubtfire has something in their teeth? 00:55:58 Speaker 1: He goes under cover as Scottish woman who has something in her teeth. That's they're like, Dad never has anything his teeth, so this can't be that. 00:56:06 Speaker 4: There's no way in hell. That's the one thing we know about Daddy Well excellently played. H let's you play you won in such a big way. And Kirk Cameron, let's hope he gets those loose veneers in every hole and uh, he deserves something, he's not something coming to him. 00:56:25 Speaker 1: What if in the rapture if you have ven ears, you can't get taken up into the rapture And he's like. 00:56:29 Speaker 4: Whoops, or you leave all your teeth behind. I thought when you were telling that street harassment story that the turn was going to be and that man was Kirk Cameron, that would not surprise me, Like, of course that's not that surprising, Psycho. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. The amount of problems the listeners have is never ending. It's kind of gross at this point, but I'm just kind of dealing with it. We're, you know, just marching through the swamp of my listener's proprobs. Will you answer a question with yes? 00:57:02 Speaker 1: Of course? 00:57:02 Speaker 4: Okay, let me read this. This say is high bridger and disrespectful, but delightful. Guest love the podcast, of course? Well, we love a nice little compliment up top. God bless you, listener. I've got a gift dilemma, and I know you're the only one who can help. My husband and I have Oh this is perfect. My husband and I have two adorable dogs named Brownie and Scout. This is this is actually ideal. Both our rescues and quite timid and afraid of new situations and people. Scout tends to be very afraid of new people and bark slash growls at them, especially men, unless they give her give her treats to show her they're nice and can be trusted. Wile this dog knows what's going same same ah. 00:57:40 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:57:42 Speaker 4: One of our neighbors cuts his grass every single Thursday morning, and he started carrying treats with him as he mows. When we go by on our morning walk, he stops and gives treats to my dogs. This has been wonderful because now both dogs are thrilled to see him and go in for a cuddle. However, Scout has become I'm really pushy and tries to snatch the treats from him and pulls us down the street like a maniac when she hears the lawnmower going. Okay, so kind of a Pavlovian thing happening with the lawnmower at this point some weeks, it's so bad. She's pulling so hard she's walking on her hind legs and crying. Okay, Oh, we're trying to help her learn some composure. But in the meantime, I'd love to get my neighbor a gift that says, thank you for helping my dog learn to love new people, and I'm sorry she's snatching things like a brat. Some context outside Okay, listener, outside of this forty pages of text I just read, there's more context for context. 00:58:34 Speaker 1: I'm brad. 00:58:36 Speaker 4: Some context. I love to bake and cook and have thought about doing that, but have no idea what his dietary needs are. I also have I also forgotten his name O rude, and now it feels like too much time has passed to ask for it again. I agree. What I do know is that he's a scheduled, tidy and friendly guy about fifty years old who rides his bike with a basket often and is kind to animals. Your sage advice is greatly apprecia. And that's when Susie in Atlanta, Susie, the situation is out of control. Yeah, I mean on a lot of levels, you've forgotten the name of this fifty year old riding around on a bike with a basket. Kind of a wicked witch situation going on. He's obsessed with neighborhood dogs. He's mowing the lawn constantly. He's baiting the dogs with the food. What And Susie's thinking maybe I should bake, but I don't know his dietary needs? What what do you think? My first the first thing I'm going to think say is, Susie, if you're gonna bake something, it doesn't matter about the dietary needs. He's gonna throw it out. He'll just say that was nice that he's dumping it in the trash, So it doesn't matter if he's allergic if that's the gift you want to give, truly, bake him whatever and just know that that's going to be thrown away. Garbage is the theme of the podcast today. But anyway, what are you thinking? This is a very strange email to receive with. Let's be honest. There's male harassment, there's dogs, there's everything we could have. We've discussed so much of this already on the podcast. 01:00:08 Speaker 1: Yes, and where's Brownie? And all this. 01:00:14 Speaker 4: As maybe this guy's name is Brownie. 01:00:17 Speaker 1: She never had a second dog. I would say the best gift to get him is drought tolerant landscaping. Oh, fantasic, eliminate the need for mowing altogether, and there you have it. Well, I mean, if the name thing, she could always just bring a new person on a walk with her, okay, and then do the thing where you get the name. 01:00:40 Speaker 4: Oh that's such a you know, excellent. 01:00:42 Speaker 1: If the name is that, I think it's I also think it's not. I personally am not offended if someone says I'm so sorry I don't know your name. I think that that's fine. I think people worry about them. 01:00:53 Speaker 4: I think as a society we need to say that's okay. I can't. We can't have a memory full of these nonsense words that are. 01:01:00 Speaker 1: Names, especially if you say something like I'm so sorry, you're always so kind, and you've really actually helped this tree in our dog and I can't believe this. I'm so embarrassed. I don't know your name, like you know what I mean. 01:01:11 Speaker 4: I'm ashamed. Yeah, you got me. Yeah, I don't know your name. My memory is barely functioning. Will you please share this information. 01:01:19 Speaker 1: Here's some cookies you gotta throw out. We both know. 01:01:21 Speaker 4: I know you don't appreciate my baking. You never have and you never will. 01:01:27 Speaker 1: So what's the question. 01:01:28 Speaker 4: What, ultimately, what do we give this fifty year old on his bike with a basket. Oh, we know he has a lawn mower. You're saying drought tolerant landscaping. Just she's ben in Atlanta, which I feel like is so verdant and green. 01:01:42 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been there, so I wouldn't I wouldn't know. 01:01:45 Speaker 4: I guess I've never been there either. But in my mind, I picture you know, a lot of trees, sticky humid air. Yea, but everybody loves drout. Drought tolerant landscaping next week, he's raking the gravel rather than mowing the lawn. 01:01:57 Speaker 1: No, what if she got him give card to like pet smart so he could use it to buy treats, because like he gives the treats, right, does he buy the trees? 01:02:08 Speaker 4: Sounds like he's buying the trees, But then is there a comment on the quality of treats is giving the dog? 01:02:12 Speaker 1: Yes? Well what okay? He loves bike access about horn? Yeah or both. You could get one of those little license plates that says like dog baiter or something. 01:02:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's a good novelty idea. Yeah, that's great lonsense plates. There we go, sharks. I'm offering you one hundred percent of my business because no one will buy my lawnmower license plates. That feels like a decent idea. Dog bait. 01:02:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think like something I think. I don't think he might. I don't think he would throw away the treats. It sounds like they're friends. 01:02:59 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't trust person. I think that there's a bigger game at play, and he's obviously like deliberately keeping his name from her. Uh, he's planning. He's probably got all his bags packed and is planning to flee in the night with the dogs. He's obviously trying to get them on his side. 01:03:15 Speaker 1: That's right, that's that's right. 01:03:16 Speaker 4: He's teaching them to be vicious and snappy. 01:03:19 Speaker 1: Uh, he's turning them on her. 01:03:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, Eventually Susie will be devoured and the Brownie and Scout will hop on the lawnmower with dog Vader. I mean, why not decorate a cake and just guess his name, say thank you Chris, yeah, and take it over and he'll he will certainly tell the name when you hand him the cake. 01:03:43 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then say well, never mind then, or I've like call him Mike, Mike with the bike. There you go, your Scout's friend, Scout feeder. 01:03:54 Speaker 4: Cake that says thank you, Scout's friend. 01:03:57 Speaker 1: Thank your friend to all man and beast. 01:04:01 Speaker 4: Susie, think of all of the options for given you here a grabber, a grabber to grab treats from him, and then you can give it to the dog at a safe distance. I mean, the fact that you wrote into the same email is not just telling me you're a lazy person that's not willing to just spend four seconds thinking about gift or. 01:04:18 Speaker 1: I think the best gift, just give him Scout. Scout's the troublemaker, Brownie, and you are doing fine right. 01:04:26 Speaker 4: Scout has become kind of a problem in your life. Enjoys the company of lawnman. Uh So maybe one day suddenly he looks in the backyard and Scout's running around and he's like, the plan has worked, right. The gift it was, It's a gift. The load is off of you, Susie. Everybody wins. Yeah, I like this a beautiful end to a gorgeous story. Yes, Susie, take that information and execute it. Uh to the letter. I don't want you to deviate at all from what we just told you, because who could perfect We answered the question perfectly. Yeah, this podcast is a service. If nothing else, we provide a service to the community. And thank you for doing that. My pleasure, but also thank you for this Graber. I can't wait for this to kind of probably enable my laziness. 01:05:22 Speaker 1: You're welcome, use it and get out. 01:05:24 Speaker 4: I'll be grabbing the TV remote, I'll be pinching people. 01:05:28 Speaker 1: It could also protect your back CANSO, that's true. Word off further. 01:05:32 Speaker 4: Problem less bending over and hopefully will allow me to reach immortality. Christina had a wonderful time with me today. Now, listener, I hope you had a wonderful time. If you didn't, that's entirely on you. It's obviously a personality difference. You can certainly find another podcast. Don't let me know, don't write otherwise. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day, a wonderful rest of your week, and we'll meet again at some other point. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. The theme song, of course, could only come from a miracle worker, Amy Mannon. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:06:34 Speaker 3: Hello? 01:06:35 Speaker 1: Invit did you hear? 01:06:38 Speaker 2: Thought a man myself perfectly clear? When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests 01:06:53 Speaker 3: Your presences presence enough, and I'm already too much up, So, how do you dare to surbey me