Speaker 1: Corey. She had a place out west of the Scotin
Speaker 1: and she had some animals and dogs, cats, horses, dogs
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff over there.
Speaker 2: This is Greg Thompson, the local handyman who did small
Speaker 2: jobs for Tolena. When Corey moved into Teleina's house fresh
Speaker 2: office separation from her husband, she came with a menagerie
Speaker 2: of animals, both big and small.
Speaker 1: She had to do something with all the animals and
Speaker 1: all the corrals and everything. They went with them. Then
Speaker 1: here's old Greg. That's me. I volunteered to help Corey
Speaker 1: and we moved all of her stuff over to Chilina's house.
Speaker 2: Talina was a huge animal lover and she welcomed Corey's
Speaker 2: cats and dogs into her home. The larger animals that
Speaker 2: couldn't fit were placed with her neighbor and house cleaner
Speaker 2: named Billy Shieltz.
Speaker 1: Billy had a pretty good size yard. We sent and
Speaker 1: she put the donkeys in there. They were a little
Speaker 1: miniature donkeys and she liked them. They were cute. And
Speaker 1: they had this horse. It was like thirteen or fourteen
Speaker 1: years old, super old, and it was like a horse
Speaker 1: made out of toothpicks in paper. I mean it was
Speaker 1: so skinny. I was like, Corey, what's up with that horse?
Speaker 1: And she goes, well, I've had people report me to
Speaker 1: the law and everything else about that horse. But I
Speaker 1: have a vet that says that it's sick, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to let it live. It live its
Speaker 1: life out. I don't want to put it down. You know,
Speaker 1: we're letting it live and it eats, it drinks, it
Speaker 1: did everything a horse should have done. It just looked awful.
Speaker 1: A couple of months go by and the old horse
Speaker 1: finally passes away, and Corey calls me like nine or
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night and asks me if I had
Speaker 1: access to a back and I'm like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I have a tractor, but it doesn't dig holes like that.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, well maybe I can get some help
Speaker 1: from a neighbor over here. Okay. So a couple of
Speaker 1: days go by, I end up over at Billy's. I said,
Speaker 1: what happened to the horse? We're being up burying it
Speaker 1: and she goes, well, we didn't end up burying it.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, what happened to it? It's not
Speaker 1: here and she goes, well, Cory, Butcher, that thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm like what she said? Yeah, she keut that horse
Speaker 1: up in tiny little pieces and put it in black
Speaker 1: trash bag and put it in the back of the
Speaker 1: Pontiac six thousand and hauled it out to Muskogie and
Speaker 1: dumped it out for the kyak And I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: who does that? And so I've read it to Cory
Speaker 1: and we got talking about it. I said, can't you?
Speaker 1: And she said it took.
Speaker 3: Me a long time.
Speaker 1: I was able to do it and said I just
Speaker 1: thought it was fitting to take it back out there
Speaker 1: where it had lived all its life and trying to
Speaker 1: return it back to nature. And Okay, that's freaking weird,
Speaker 1: but okay, whatever, And I'm like, who even knows how
Speaker 1: to do something like that?
Speaker 2: From iHeart Podcasts, I'm Melissa Jelson And this is what
Speaker 2: happened to Teleina Zar.
Speaker 4: Just because they're missing doesn't mean anything was nefarious.
Speaker 5: All of us wear mass.
Speaker 6: How well did I adapt to being property?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: That depends on whether you ask me or master.
Speaker 4: Lol.
Speaker 8: He would talk and talk and talk, so he'd give
Speaker 8: us information. He'd give us names, he would give us
Speaker 8: phone numbers. The first thing I would say was, how's
Speaker 8: your roommate going, and she always answered the best I've
Speaker 8: ever had.
Speaker 6: There's still part of me thinking that maybe someone will
Speaker 6: just call and say she's sick somewhere. Most of me
Speaker 6: is saying that when I get that phone call, it's
Speaker 6: going to be because someone found her. I'm supposed to
Speaker 6: identify her.
Speaker 2: Episode four, The Mattress.
Speaker 3: We had some meat from a fundraiser that our kids
Speaker 3: were doing at the school. It was like shausage meat.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever heard of Blue and Gold,
Speaker 3: but it's kind of a big deal down here in
Speaker 3: the Oklahoma, Texas area. It's really good stuff. Selena had
Speaker 3: already pre paid pretty items, and I didn't want to
Speaker 3: keep that even though she was missing.
Speaker 2: At this point, about a week after Teleina disappears, her
Speaker 2: friend Aris stops by her house and meets with her
Speaker 2: roommate Corey. The purpose of Aris's visit is twofold. She's
Speaker 2: dropping off some meat that Teleina had ordered, and also
Speaker 2: picking up a mattress of Telena's which had been promised
Speaker 2: to her son. She's just moved into a new house
Speaker 2: and Telena had been instrumental in helping to furnish it.
Speaker 3: So we get there we see Corey. We asked, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: how you holding up Daddy? Heard anything? They're like no,
Speaker 3: they hadn't heard anything from Teuleina.
Speaker 2: Corey meets Aris at the door, but doesn't invite her in.
Speaker 2: She's worried that the virus could still be lingering inside
Speaker 2: and doesn't want Aris to get sick.
Speaker 3: She said that to reduce the possibility and exposure there,
Speaker 3: we should stay.
Speaker 2: Outside, standing on the front porch. Aris asks about the
Speaker 2: match and learns that it's gone.
Speaker 3: The bed that we were going to be given was
Speaker 3: burned in the backyard. Corey burned it because the CDC
Speaker 3: told her to because Telena believed she had COVID.
Speaker 2: Burning Teleina's bed in the backyard strikes Eiris as an
Speaker 2: extreme reaction to COVID, but then again, so is the
Speaker 2: decision to shut down businesses and schools. I mean, people
Speaker 2: were spraying their groceries with lyesol before touching them. It
Speaker 2: was a weird time. Luckily, Corey says there's another mattress
Speaker 2: she can take instead, and so Aris and her husband
Speaker 2: loaded up. Before they leave, Aris brings Corey the sausage
Speaker 2: meat you want.
Speaker 3: I take the sausage out of my car. I go
Speaker 3: hand it to her and I say, hey, this is
Speaker 3: the stuff that Telena paid for. You know, even though
Speaker 3: she might not be here right now, I would rather
Speaker 3: go to the house to pay for it. She looked
Speaker 3: at me and said, you guys should go ahead and
Speaker 3: take it. Our fread is stuffed full of meat.
Speaker 2: Not long after, Greg bumped into Corey in town.
Speaker 1: She was filing a missing persons report for Calena. She
Speaker 1: had this big mask on like you would use for
Speaker 1: like painting or something, you know, to keep the fumes up.
Speaker 1: We had talked for a minute and I expressed my
Speaker 1: concern about Helena missing and was asking her do you
Speaker 1: know where she could possibly have gone.
Speaker 2: The two compare notes and theories for a few minutes,
Speaker 2: and then Corey asks Greg for some help at the house.
Speaker 1: She asked me to come over and pick up some
Speaker 1: scrap metal in their yard, but they've accumulated for haul
Speaker 1: off trash or something like that.
Speaker 2: Later that day, Greg drives over to Telena and Corey's.
Speaker 1: So I get over there to pick up Corey's strap metal,
Speaker 1: and it was Telena's headboard from her bed and what
Speaker 1: was left of the mattress that I had just put
Speaker 1: on there. It had been burnt and all that was
Speaker 1: left was a metal wire frame that's inside the mattress.
Speaker 1: You know, We're loading this stuff up on there, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this Tuena's bed, and shot, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the sick bed. This is where Telena was
Speaker 1: so sick, and you know, to get rid of the
Speaker 1: germs and this and that, I just earned it all.
Speaker 2: Greg loads his trailer with the metal bed frame and
Speaker 2: heads towards the recycling center.
Speaker 1: I pulled up on the scale and the ladies behind
Speaker 1: the windows, you know, she's looking at all my stuff
Speaker 1: and tell me to pull uh. And she walks out
Speaker 1: there and she goes, what size of the headboard is that?
Speaker 1: I told her I think it's Queen or Keene whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're you might if I had it. Then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, because my daughter is looking for a
Speaker 1: headboard and I think that one would be perfect. I
Speaker 1: gave it to her, and so I went ahead and
Speaker 1: got rid of all my strap and went on about
Speaker 1: my day.
Speaker 2: That evening, Greg finds himself recounting this story to a friend.
Speaker 1: I'm telling my buddy this as we're sitting in the garage,
Speaker 1: and he said, do you not think that he just
Speaker 1: got rid of it edity and a possible crime. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I mean, it was just really really weird things were happening.
Speaker 2: This is Rachel another Wagner friend of Telena's.
Speaker 9: Everybody's you know, reaching out to each other and it's like,
Speaker 9: has anybody seen Telena or has anybody here heard from Telena?
Speaker 9: There was nothing, nothing, And people reached out to Cory
Speaker 9: have you heard from her? And Corey like blowing it
Speaker 9: off and stuff. No, she's sick, she's up in the
Speaker 9: woods and whatnot. And the whole situation was just weird.
Speaker 9: But COVID was starting to ramp up and people were
Speaker 9: starting to get sick and stuff right around that time,
Speaker 9: and you know, we all tried several weeks to reach
Speaker 9: out to Corey and Telena and stuff and just never
Speaker 9: heard anything.
Speaker 2: There's a pretty big group of people in Wagner looking
Speaker 2: for Telena now Rachel airis Greg and his wife Marty
Speaker 2: aka Wolfe and his wife Lorie, as well as other neighbors,
Speaker 2: even Telena's hairdresser Kim. They put up flyers and organize
Speaker 2: a vigil.
Speaker 1: Wolfe had this little get together at our local fire departments.
Speaker 1: It was to bring awareness to Helena's disappearance. I didn't
Speaker 1: go to it that. My wife just popped in doctor
Speaker 1: Wolfe and his wife and some other people that were there,
Speaker 1: and she noticed that Corey wasn't there.
Speaker 2: The thing about Corey is she's a recent transplant. She's
Speaker 2: been living with Telina for less than a year. And
Speaker 2: the Wagoner friends they start to have the same nagging
Speaker 2: feeling how well did any of them really know her.
Speaker 1: My wife went over to the house and Corey met
Speaker 1: her at their you know, answered the front door, but
Speaker 1: just barely cracked it and then came out. She wouldn't
Speaker 1: let her in the house. And Billie sheielded the lady
Speaker 1: that was cleaning their house. She went over there and
Speaker 1: Corey wouldn't let her in.
Speaker 2: There was really only one person in town who had
Speaker 2: a long standing relationship with Corey. That was Marty Woolfy,
Speaker 2: that met more than a decade earlier at Gorefest.
Speaker 3: Wolfe had called me and asked Kelly a week or
Speaker 3: two afterwards if I had noticed anything about Corey. I
Speaker 3: said no, everything seemed to be business as usual. I mean,
Speaker 3: she seemed probably a little too nonchalant. When more than
Speaker 3: one person started asking me if I'd noticed anything is
Speaker 3: when I started to really start to question every interaction we.
Speaker 2: Had, with suspicions raised. Aris looks back over her text
Speaker 2: messages with Teleina before she disappeared, and she starts to think,
Speaker 2: some of these messages don't sound like Telena. Talna had
Speaker 2: reached out to Aris on March twenty eighth and asked
Speaker 2: her to swing by for the mattress, but at the
Speaker 2: last minute Teleina canceled.
Speaker 3: We were supposed to go over that morning, and we
Speaker 3: got a message that said, I have a migraine. I'm
Speaker 3: going to stay in you know, abart mission.
Speaker 5: Whatever, abort mission. I've got a terrible migraine. I've been
Speaker 5: staying in bed today.
Speaker 3: Okay, not in common, but I'd noticed she had packed
Speaker 3: it differently. She normally has a pattern of how she
Speaker 3: types that you know, uppercase, properly, punctuated, grammatically correct, and
Speaker 3: that wasn't it. Initially I just wrote it off as
Speaker 3: she might have a migraine, like, clearly has a migraine, so,
Speaker 3: you know, not keeping up with the grammar.
Speaker 2: A number of Telena's friends are also questioning the legitimacy
Speaker 2: of Telena's final Facebook post, like Rachel, who was skeptical
Speaker 2: about it from the moment she read.
Speaker 9: It, but literally just talked to her a couple of
Speaker 9: days before a messenger and she was, fine.
Speaker 7: I'm on day nine of this virus and I am
Speaker 7: pretty sure it has reached my lungs.
Speaker 9: We had talked about COVID. She didn't seem particularly worried
Speaker 9: about it. She didn't seem to be like the sky
Speaker 9: is falling kind of thing, which is what this post
Speaker 9: sounded like.
Speaker 6: I made the decision at the onset that if it
Speaker 6: got bad enough, I would not go to the hospital, And.
Speaker 9: At the time when I read it, I'm like, that
Speaker 9: just sounds weird. That doesn't sound like Telena.
Speaker 2: Telena's friends in Wagner are growing distrustful of Corey, and
Speaker 2: so are the online sleuths.
Speaker 7: We all had reservations about Corey, Like nothing she said
Speaker 7: or did make sense. Why was she being like so
Speaker 7: sketchy about everything?
Speaker 8: Really, the biggest the biggest one was trying to figure
Speaker 8: out who Corey was and and her history and you know,
Speaker 8: where did she come from. After we found out about
Speaker 8: the Gorrians, we started deep diving Corey. So we googled
Speaker 8: Corey and found out she had a criminal history, a felony.
Speaker 2: According to the documents they can access. Six years earlier,
Speaker 2: Corey was arrested and charged in Madison, Wisconsin for using
Speaker 2: someone else's credit card.
Speaker 8: Her criminal records will pop up online and it said
Speaker 8: she had used credit cards at different places.
Speaker 2: This discovery is interesting, but the online sleuths know enough
Speaker 2: from their true crime shows that a past charge for
Speaker 2: a nonviolent crime doesn't prove anything.
Speaker 8: A lot of us said, well, just because she's a
Speaker 8: thief does not mean she's a murderer. That doesn't It's
Speaker 8: not the same thing.
Speaker 2: So they keep digging, developing a basic profile for Corey.
Speaker 2: They learned that she grew up on a dairy farm
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin with her mother, father, and one brother, and
Speaker 2: since she left home, it seems as though she's traveled
Speaker 2: a fair bit. They find addresses for her in at
Speaker 2: least four states.
Speaker 8: We found out she had like thirteen different aliases, and
Speaker 8: I was like, who the hell needs thirteen aliases? And
Speaker 8: then I look myself up and I see I have
Speaker 8: two different you know, my name is two different times
Speaker 8: because I had been married. And then my maid name,
Speaker 8: and I was like, that makes sense to have one
Speaker 8: or two, but then thirteen. So we start googling like
Speaker 8: her life and we download this app where you can
Speaker 8: get background checks on people. We see who she was
Speaker 8: married to, and then we start reaching out to people
Speaker 8: she was married to.
Speaker 2: Not afraid to cold call strangers, Jess identifies two ex
Speaker 2: husbands and reaches out first up David Sachs, who Corey
Speaker 2: married in the nineteen eighties. His father owned a casino
Speaker 2: in mob Era, Las Vegas. Jess has a few conversations
Speaker 2: with him, and he offers some color about Corey, like
Speaker 2: the fact she'd once worked in a coroner's office, but
Speaker 2: he hasn't seen her in decades. Her second husband is
Speaker 2: more helpful. Alexander Adams is a Celtic musician who Corey
Speaker 2: met in Oregon when she was an event coordinator. They
Speaker 2: spent fourteen years together, traveling the country for gigs and
Speaker 2: releasing music online. Alexander Adams or Alec as he goes by,
Speaker 2: is receptive to Jess's questioning. He's in Wisconsin, but he's
Speaker 2: heard about Tolina's disappearance and wants to help however he can.
Speaker 5: He tells Jess some of.
Speaker 2: Their backstory, filling in gaps in her research. Alec is
Speaker 2: in the Renaissance festival circuit. In fact, he'd met Marty
Speaker 2: slash Wolfe at the annual Oklahoma Renaissance Festival some years back.
Speaker 2: Alec tells Jess that Marty loved his music and asked
Speaker 2: him to come to his private event, Gorefest. Corey went too.
Speaker 8: He invited Alec back to Gorfest to perform at the festival,
Speaker 8: and he invited them back, like, hey, come perform for us.
Speaker 5: You know it's going to be great, and they went.
Speaker 2: It's here at Gorfest in the early two thousands where
Speaker 2: Telena first meets Corey. The online sleuths are developing a
Speaker 2: better picture of who Corey is from their conversations with Marty,
Speaker 2: Corey's ex husbands and the research into her past, and
Speaker 2: then they find something huge.
Speaker 8: She used eBay to make a living. She'd sell stuff
Speaker 8: on eBay and that's how she'd make money. And that
Speaker 8: gave us the idea to look on eBay to see
Speaker 8: what she's been selling. We'd all take turns kind of
Speaker 8: creeping on it every day, like checking to see if
Speaker 8: anything was up that was weird.
Speaker 2: One day, Nicole Telena's friend in Tennessee notices that Corey
Speaker 2: is selling things that had been in to Lena's house.
Speaker 10: Looking at old pictures of her house and you would
Speaker 10: see that she was selling things off.
Speaker 5: Little by little.
Speaker 10: You could see clock in the background of a picture,
Speaker 10: and then it was there on her eBay.
Speaker 8: We had seen her selling Telena's stuff, some clothes, these
Speaker 8: metal like lawn flowers that she had gotten, I guess
Speaker 8: Nicole had said. Telina was very excited about these lawn flowers.
Speaker 8: They're like metal. She had bottomed a flea market or something,
Speaker 8: and she loved them, and we just we were all like,
Speaker 8: what is going on here? Why is she selling this stuff?
Speaker 2: Aside from just some trinkets and collectibles, they saw some
Speaker 2: of Telena's most treasured belongings for sale.
Speaker 10: Her wedding ring to Tom was on there, and she
Speaker 10: would never ever ever sell that wedding ring. And when
Speaker 10: I saw that, and I saw his medals he was
Speaker 10: awarded in the Army, I knew that there was no
Speaker 10: way that she would have sold those things.
Speaker 2: Nicole comes up with a plan to get the items
Speaker 2: back without Corey catching on.
Speaker 10: I contacted my cousin and I asked her just to
Speaker 10: buy them that I would pay her for them. She
Speaker 10: lived in another state in Louisiana, and so I thought
Speaker 10: that she would not knows me.
Speaker 2: Nichole's cousin wins the bid. Corey packs up the wedding
Speaker 2: ring and some of Tom's military medals and ships it off.
Speaker 2: Niicole's cousin then forwards the package to her. Armed with
Speaker 2: this evidence, Nicole contacts the cops, so does Jess, but
Speaker 2: the response they get is not as enthusiastic as they hoped.
Speaker 8: At first, it was like, Okay, thank you, we're getting
Speaker 8: a lot of tips, you know, thank you. We appreciate it.
Speaker 8: And we were really hyped up about the eBay thing.
Speaker 8: I was like, hey, this is huge.
Speaker 2: It's been twenty two days since Telena's cryptic Facebook post.
Speaker 2: From the perspective of the online sluice, the cops aren't
Speaker 2: doing anything.
Speaker 8: I was mad. I think all of us were mad.
Speaker 8: We were like, what the hell, it's plain's day, what
Speaker 8: she's doing?
Speaker 2: The Jess and the others aren't privy to what's going
Speaker 2: on behind the scenes. On April twenty ninth, Detective Joel
Speaker 2: Webber and a colleague go to Telena's property a brown,
Speaker 2: rustic lake house set back from the road. Corey invites
Speaker 2: them in and gives them a tour. It's the first
Speaker 2: time law enforcement has gone inside the house. She shows
Speaker 2: them around the living areas and the bedrooms where she
Speaker 2: and Telena slept. Here's how Detective Weber later described his visit.
Speaker 4: In that initial kind of walk through of the house,
Speaker 4: there was several things that kind of, I guess stood
Speaker 4: out a little bit. One of the things was in
Speaker 4: the office room, there was a map on the wall
Speaker 4: that had a lot of arrows on it. They weren't
Speaker 4: drawn on the map. It came like from the distributor
Speaker 4: or whoever, with those arrows on it, and it said
Speaker 4: like the missing four one one on it or something
Speaker 4: like that. And I asked Corey what that was or
Speaker 4: what it was for, and Corey said it was just
Speaker 4: all of the arrows indicated people that had gone missing
Speaker 4: in national forests around the United States. I thought that
Speaker 4: was significant. I made a mental note. There was a
Speaker 4: map of missing people on the wall, and I'm there
Speaker 4: looking for a missing person. It seemed unusual. I think
Speaker 4: I went into I think I went into every room
Speaker 4: and then also in the yard.
Speaker 2: Corey shows Weber around the yard, the garage, and then
Speaker 2: he leaves. Meanwhile, the Sheriff's office is being inundated with
Speaker 2: tips from friends, locals, psychics, and the online sleuths, and
Speaker 2: a large number of them point at Corey. About a
Speaker 2: week later, Detective Weber asked Corey to come back into
Speaker 2: the station to address some of the rumors that have
Speaker 2: been circulating. Here's a recreation of parts of their conversation.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I forgot a pen, So all right, just
Speaker 4: had some fallow up cues from we talked about before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you probably.
Speaker 4: Already know that people on the internet are already talking
Speaker 4: and saying lots of things.
Speaker 6: And there's one gal online that you know, between some
Speaker 6: misinformation and some fabrication.
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, right, everyone wants to be a detective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems that Corey knows about Jess and the
Speaker 2: fine to Lena's our Facebook group, she's been lurking online.
Speaker 5: Okay, so.
Speaker 4: I'm getting told a lot of random stuff and a
Speaker 4: lot of and I'll be completely honest with you, a
Speaker 4: lot of people are pointing suspicion at you.
Speaker 2: Detective Weber starts asking Corey about some of the tips
Speaker 2: his office has received, beginning with questions about Corey's criminal record.
Speaker 4: All Right, somebody brought up at some point that you
Speaker 4: were charged with something and I don't remember what state, Okay,
Speaker 4: Wisconsin or in Wisconsin Wisconsin?
Speaker 5: Yes, so what happened in a nutshell? My husband?
Speaker 2: Corey explains that a number of years ago, she and
Speaker 2: her then husband, Alexander Adams, the Celtic musician, moved to Middleton, Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: where her mom lives.
Speaker 6: My husband and I spent every penny we had to
Speaker 6: move to Wisconsin, and we went through a tough time
Speaker 6: where we didn't have much money.
Speaker 2: Corey tells Detective Weber that she became good friends with
Speaker 2: a man who lived next door, and one day this
Speaker 2: neighbor gave Corey his wife's credit card to use so
Speaker 2: she could get some groceries and gas. He said Corey
Speaker 2: could pay him back later.
Speaker 6: Well, the wife was jealous of him and I for
Speaker 6: no reason, and she had a canary and she pressed charges.
Speaker 2: Corey says, at first she was booked for a misdemeanor,
Speaker 2: but the wife was making a lot of fuss and
Speaker 2: so they elevated the charges to a felony. Ultimately, she
Speaker 2: says it never went to trial. She got two years probation.
Speaker 2: It was all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 4: No probation violations during the two years.
Speaker 5: None, No, they move on.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, one other thing came up, and that was
Speaker 4: the allegedly somebody thinks you're selling things on eBay that
Speaker 4: belonged to Tom, that belonged to Tolena, that were her
Speaker 4: deceased husband's.
Speaker 6: Stuff, and that is very possible. But there are things
Speaker 6: that Telena has been giving me of Tom's for the
Speaker 6: past two years, okay, to sell online, So there's nothing
Speaker 6: sold that shouldn't be sold. And quite frankly, as her executor,
Speaker 6: she told me, when I'm gone, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5: With everything, and I haven't. I mean, there's most stuff
Speaker 5: is still there.
Speaker 2: Corey reminds Weber that legally, she's in charge of Telena's
Speaker 2: a state in the event of Telena's death. Weber responds
Speaker 2: that it's really too early for her to be taking
Speaker 2: on that role.
Speaker 4: Well, and I don't maybe it's not even my place
Speaker 4: to say anything, but I don't want you. What can
Speaker 4: make you look worse or look bad to some people
Speaker 4: is that she's not she's not been found. Uh huh,
Speaker 4: She's not dead as far as we know, so doing
Speaker 4: things as an executor before we know she's dead is presumptuous.
Speaker 2: I like to imagine that. Weber takes a dramatic pause here,
Speaker 2: looks Corey in the eye, has a little staring contest,
Speaker 2: then looks down at his notes. Weber switches gears, brings
Speaker 2: up something his deputies mentioned.
Speaker 4: They said there was some sort of travel trailer or
Speaker 4: a trailer of some sort in the driveway.
Speaker 5: Oh, a white cargo trailer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 5: It's sold. It's sold. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so the reason I ask is because someone brought
Speaker 4: that up and I said, I didn't see a trailer
Speaker 4: when I was in the driveway.
Speaker 5: No, we sold that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: When when did that sell?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: I think it was either mid March late March, March
Speaker 6: a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, at some point the deputy saw this trailer, as
Speaker 4: my understanding.
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe it's sold in early April. Would you do
Speaker 6: you do you know when he saw it. I'd have
Speaker 6: to I'd have to go back and chat.
Speaker 2: Okay, on the date, Corey says she sold it to
Speaker 2: a friend of a friend for one thousand dollars. Weber
Speaker 2: asked if she has some sort of receipt, and Corey
Speaker 2: says she's sure she signed something, but he gave her cash.
Speaker 2: And actually, trailers don't have to be registered in Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: so there's no official paper trail.
Speaker 6: What was a trailer got to do with it? Was mine,
Speaker 6: it wasn't Telena's.
Speaker 4: So okay, Well, the only reason it has to do
Speaker 4: with anything is just because my understanding he was there
Speaker 4: one day and now it's not. And so I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to Yeah, I'm looking at anything that's, you know,
Speaker 4: seems unusual. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's anything. It just
Speaker 4: means I'm answering questions ahead of people asking him.
Speaker 6: What I'm getting from all these questions is that people
Speaker 6: online have already made up their mind because they can't
Speaker 6: find resolution somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Corey seems frustrated by the line of questioning. Why is
Speaker 2: Weber cow telling to these nosy internet hacks with nothing
Speaker 2: better to do.
Speaker 4: I'm asking questions because they're throwing suspicion on me, and
Speaker 4: it would be dumb of me not to ask because
Speaker 4: I need to. I need to be able to honestly
Speaker 4: say I've done everything we can do yes. We've checked
Speaker 4: everywhere we can check.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 4: And if I don't ask these questions, someone's going to
Speaker 4: go why didn't you ask that?
Speaker 5: I want that too.
Speaker 2: Detective Weber adds if the online sleuths start hassling her,
Speaker 2: she should reach out to the sheriff's department for help.
Speaker 2: He too, seems a little fed up by their persistence.
Speaker 4: You're not going to solve it online. Nobody's gonna find
Speaker 4: her on Facebook. But by god, there's plenty of theories.
Speaker 6: So and I told Nicole last time I talked to her,
Speaker 6: and I haven't talked to her.
Speaker 5: Probably a week.
Speaker 6: But I said, these crime junkies with their miss information,
Speaker 6: and there are little bits of information that aren't enough
Speaker 6: to make an intelligent you know, jump from point A
Speaker 6: to point B.
Speaker 5: You're probably going to do more damage than good.
Speaker 6: Because you're going to divert focus from maybe where it
Speaker 6: needs to be.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: So I said, prove me wrong. Have your crime junkies
Speaker 5: finder prove me wrong.
Speaker 2: During the interview, which lasts more than two hours, Corey
Speaker 2: agrees to do anything to help clear her name, including
Speaker 2: allowing the sheriffs into the house to test for bloodstains,
Speaker 2: So there's this.
Speaker 4: There's a fear going around that and just being completely
Speaker 4: honest with you, yes, please, people think you killed her
Speaker 4: in the house and so and that's and again nobody
Speaker 4: has any reason to think that. It's just they feel something.
Speaker 4: My thought was, we have a we have a chemical.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know what luminol is, but
Speaker 4: it's something similar to that, where luminol is just sort
Speaker 4: of a mist. We can squirt on the floor or something,
Speaker 4: uh huh, and it will illuminate blood and that kind
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so my thought was, we can come, we could
Speaker 4: spray the floors and you know that would help us.
Speaker 5: I guess, you know, if that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2: And without prompting, she also offers to take a polygraph
Speaker 2: to rule her out as a suspect.
Speaker 6: So let's whatever we have to do to get to
Speaker 6: that point.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, I'll.
Speaker 6: Take a lie detector test. You guys can bring the canines.
Speaker 6: I don't care what you have to do.
Speaker 2: Next episode on What Happened to Tolenazar, the amateur investigation
Speaker 2: starts to take its wole on Jess.
Speaker 8: And lied to a lot of people, a lot friends,
Speaker 8: of Telena's friends of Marty's. Sometimes I felt like I
Speaker 8: was in over my.
Speaker 2: Head and the police obtain evidence that throws the timeline
Speaker 2: of Telena's disappearance into question.
Speaker 4: This final post appears suspicious and unlikely to have come
Speaker 4: from Telena or her cellular phone.
Speaker 2: What Happened to Telenazar is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 2: It's written, reported, and hosted by me Melissa Jelson, with
Speaker 2: writing and story editing by Lauren Hansen. Our executive producer
Speaker 2: is Ryan Murdoch. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Jason
Speaker 2: English and Carl Catel. Fact checking by Savannah Hugley. Zoey
Speaker 2: Denkla is our associate producer. Jeremy Thal is our editor.
Speaker 2: Original music by Aaron Kaufman with additional music by Jeremy
Speaker 2: Thal and Gideon Crevische. Additional sound designed by Marita Spee.
Speaker 2: Episodes are mixed and mastered by Carl Catle. Voice acting
Speaker 2: by Lizzie Gore, Chris Ferry, Stephanie Frame, Pete Monica, and
Speaker 2: Molly Maslin. Our logo is designed by Edo Moore. Thanks
Speaker 2: so much for listening.