WEBVTT - The Mattress - Talina Zar E4 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.760 Corey. She had a place out west of the Scotin 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:13.240 and she had some animals and dogs, cats, horses, dogs 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.400 and all kinds of stuff over there. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.120 This is Greg Thompson, the local handyman who did small 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.599 jobs for Tolena. When Corey moved into Teleina's house fresh 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.280 office separation from her husband, she came with a menagerie 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.600 of animals, both big and small. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.360 She had to do something with all the animals and 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.400 all the corrals and everything. They went with them. Then 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.200 here's old Greg. That's me. I volunteered to help Corey 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:44.440 and we moved all of her stuff over to Chilina's house. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.440 Talina was a huge animal lover and she welcomed Corey's 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.800 cats and dogs into her home. The larger animals that 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.080 couldn't fit were placed with her neighbor and house cleaner 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:56.600 named Billy Shieltz. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.080 Billy had a pretty good size yard. We sent and 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.080 she put the donkeys in there. They were a little 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.640 miniature donkeys and she liked them. They were cute. And 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.240 they had this horse. It was like thirteen or fourteen 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.280 years old, super old, and it was like a horse 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.200 made out of toothpicks in paper. I mean it was 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.600 so skinny. I was like, Corey, what's up with that horse? 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.640 And she goes, well, I've had people report me to 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.680 the law and everything else about that horse. But I 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.600 have a vet that says that it's sick, and you know, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.000 we're just trying to let it live. It live its 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.880 life out. I don't want to put it down. You know, 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.880 we're letting it live and it eats, it drinks, it 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.679 did everything a horse should have done. It just looked awful. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.720 A couple of months go by and the old horse 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:56.080 finally passes away, and Corey calls me like nine or 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.720 ten o'clock at night and asks me if I had 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:03.080 access to a back and I'm like, no, I don't. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.080 I have a tractor, but it doesn't dig holes like that. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.200 I said, okay, well maybe I can get some help 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.280 from a neighbor over here. Okay. So a couple of 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:17.720 days go by, I end up over at Billy's. I said, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.360 what happened to the horse? We're being up burying it 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.120 and she goes, well, we didn't end up burying it. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.560 And I'm like, well, what happened to it? It's not 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:32.160 here and she goes, well, Cory, Butcher, that thing, and 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.200 I'm like what she said? Yeah, she keut that horse 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.440 up in tiny little pieces and put it in black 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:43.480 trash bag and put it in the back of the 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.440 Pontiac six thousand and hauled it out to Muskogie and 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.760 dumped it out for the kyak And I'm like, what, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.760 who does that? And so I've read it to Cory 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.400 and we got talking about it. I said, can't you? 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.520 And she said it took. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:02.200 Me a long time. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.720 I was able to do it and said I just 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.000 thought it was fitting to take it back out there 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.079 where it had lived all its life and trying to 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:16.639 return it back to nature. And Okay, that's freaking weird, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.079 but okay, whatever, And I'm like, who even knows how 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.560 to do something like that? 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.880 From iHeart Podcasts, I'm Melissa Jelson And this is what 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.360 happened to Teleina Zar. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.480 Just because they're missing doesn't mean anything was nefarious. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:03:59.920 All of us wear mass. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.000 How well did I adapt to being property? 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:04.560 Well? 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.040 That depends on whether you ask me or master. 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:07.960 Lol. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.840 He would talk and talk and talk, so he'd give 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.400 us information. He'd give us names, he would give us 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.920 phone numbers. The first thing I would say was, how's 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.680 your roommate going, and she always answered the best I've 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:20.200 ever had. 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.760 There's still part of me thinking that maybe someone will 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.800 just call and say she's sick somewhere. Most of me 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.800 is saying that when I get that phone call, it's 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.839 going to be because someone found her. I'm supposed to 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:36.680 identify her. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.320 Episode four, The Mattress. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.440 We had some meat from a fundraiser that our kids 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.880 were doing at the school. It was like shausage meat. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.719 I don't know if you've ever heard of Blue and Gold, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.600 but it's kind of a big deal down here in 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.560 the Oklahoma, Texas area. It's really good stuff. Selena had 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.520 already pre paid pretty items, and I didn't want to 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.679 keep that even though she was missing. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.160 At this point, about a week after Teleina disappears, her 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.840 friend Aris stops by her house and meets with her 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:13.039 roommate Corey. The purpose of Aris's visit is twofold. She's 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.799 dropping off some meat that Teleina had ordered, and also 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.000 picking up a mattress of Telena's which had been promised 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.560 to her son. She's just moved into a new house 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.040 and Telena had been instrumental in helping to furnish it. 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.640 So we get there we see Corey. We asked, you know, hey, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.720 how you holding up Daddy? Heard anything? They're like no, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.120 they hadn't heard anything from Teuleina. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.280 Corey meets Aris at the door, but doesn't invite her in. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.520 She's worried that the virus could still be lingering inside 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.719 and doesn't want Aris to get sick. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.799 She said that to reduce the possibility and exposure there, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:55.920 we should stay. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.680 Outside, standing on the front porch. Aris asks about the 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.480 match and learns that it's gone. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.800 The bed that we were going to be given was 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.080 burned in the backyard. Corey burned it because the CDC 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.640 told her to because Telena believed she had COVID. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.200 Burning Teleina's bed in the backyard strikes Eiris as an 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:23.480 extreme reaction to COVID, but then again, so is the 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.640 decision to shut down businesses and schools. I mean, people 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.800 were spraying their groceries with lyesol before touching them. It 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:37.040 was a weird time. Luckily, Corey says there's another mattress 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.320 she can take instead, and so Aris and her husband 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:46.080 loaded up. Before they leave, Aris brings Corey the sausage 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.480 meat you want. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.040 I take the sausage out of my car. I go 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.520 hand it to her and I say, hey, this is 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.440 the stuff that Telena paid for. You know, even though 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.839 she might not be here right now, I would rather 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.400 go to the house to pay for it. She looked 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.400 at me and said, you guys should go ahead and 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.520 take it. Our fread is stuffed full of meat. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.840 Not long after, Greg bumped into Corey in town. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.200 She was filing a missing persons report for Calena. She 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.840 had this big mask on like you would use for 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.280 like painting or something, you know, to keep the fumes up. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.880 We had talked for a minute and I expressed my 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.920 concern about Helena missing and was asking her do you 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.200 know where she could possibly have gone. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.480 The two compare notes and theories for a few minutes, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.160 and then Corey asks Greg for some help at the house. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.520 She asked me to come over and pick up some 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.640 scrap metal in their yard, but they've accumulated for haul 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.720 off trash or something like that. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.800 Later that day, Greg drives over to Telena and Corey's. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.160 So I get over there to pick up Corey's strap metal, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:08.240 and it was Telena's headboard from her bed and what 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.360 was left of the mattress that I had just put 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.640 on there. It had been burnt and all that was 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.400 left was a metal wire frame that's inside the mattress. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.960 You know, We're loading this stuff up on there, and 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.840 I'm like, is this Tuena's bed, and shot, oh, yeah, 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.840 this is the sick bed. This is where Telena was 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.480 so sick, and you know, to get rid of the 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:37.360 germs and this and that, I just earned it all. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.360 Greg loads his trailer with the metal bed frame and 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.320 heads towards the recycling center. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.920 I pulled up on the scale and the ladies behind 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.360 the windows, you know, she's looking at all my stuff 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.600 and tell me to pull uh. And she walks out 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.640 there and she goes, what size of the headboard is that? 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.640 I told her I think it's Queen or Keene whatever, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.880 and you're you might if I had it. Then I'm like, 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.120 I don't care, because my daughter is looking for a 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.520 headboard and I think that one would be perfect. I 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.320 gave it to her, and so I went ahead and 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.320 got rid of all my strap and went on about 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:13.800 my day. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.640 That evening, Greg finds himself recounting this story to a friend. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.079 I'm telling my buddy this as we're sitting in the garage, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.040 and he said, do you not think that he just 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:32.000 got rid of it edity and a possible crime. And 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:33.719 I was like, I don't know. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.280 I mean, it was just really really weird things were happening. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.080 This is Rachel another Wagner friend of Telena's. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.920 Everybody's you know, reaching out to each other and it's like, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.240 has anybody seen Telena or has anybody here heard from Telena? 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:56.600 There was nothing, nothing, And people reached out to Cory 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.040 have you heard from her? And Corey like blowing it 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.400 off and stuff. No, she's sick, she's up in the 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:08.240 woods and whatnot. And the whole situation was just weird. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.360 But COVID was starting to ramp up and people were 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.600 starting to get sick and stuff right around that time, 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.760 and you know, we all tried several weeks to reach 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.160 out to Corey and Telena and stuff and just never 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:24.960 heard anything. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.480 There's a pretty big group of people in Wagner looking 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:34.760 for Telena now Rachel airis Greg and his wife Marty 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.079 aka Wolfe and his wife Lorie, as well as other neighbors, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.600 even Telena's hairdresser Kim. They put up flyers and organize 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:44.080 a vigil. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:50.000 Wolfe had this little get together at our local fire departments. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:56.000 It was to bring awareness to Helena's disappearance. I didn't 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.240 go to it that. My wife just popped in doctor 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.840 Wolfe and his wife and some other people that were there, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.959 and she noticed that Corey wasn't there. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:11.320 The thing about Corey is she's a recent transplant. She's 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.800 been living with Telina for less than a year. And 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.480 the Wagoner friends they start to have the same nagging 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.120 feeling how well did any of them really know her. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.680 My wife went over to the house and Corey met 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.120 her at their you know, answered the front door, but 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.520 just barely cracked it and then came out. She wouldn't 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:36.760 let her in the house. And Billie sheielded the lady 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.080 that was cleaning their house. She went over there and 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.440 Corey wouldn't let her in. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.320 There was really only one person in town who had 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.960 a long standing relationship with Corey. That was Marty Woolfy, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.480 that met more than a decade earlier at Gorefest. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.640 Wolfe had called me and asked Kelly a week or 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.520 two afterwards if I had noticed anything about Corey. I 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:06.440 said no, everything seemed to be business as usual. I mean, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:12.800 she seemed probably a little too nonchalant. When more than 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.120 one person started asking me if I'd noticed anything is 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.800 when I started to really start to question every interaction we. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:24.000 Had, with suspicions raised. Aris looks back over her text 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:28.320 messages with Teleina before she disappeared, and she starts to think, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.360 some of these messages don't sound like Telena. Talna had 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.240 reached out to Aris on March twenty eighth and asked 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.800 her to swing by for the mattress, but at the 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.119 last minute Teleina canceled. 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.560 We were supposed to go over that morning, and we 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.440 got a message that said, I have a migraine. I'm 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.880 going to stay in you know, abart mission. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.400 Whatever, abort mission. I've got a terrible migraine. I've been 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.480 staying in bed today. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:02.839 Okay, not in common, but I'd noticed she had packed 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.840 it differently. She normally has a pattern of how she 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:10.520 types that you know, uppercase, properly, punctuated, grammatically correct, and 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.920 that wasn't it. Initially I just wrote it off as 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.240 she might have a migraine, like, clearly has a migraine, so, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.439 you know, not keeping up with the grammar. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.600 A number of Telena's friends are also questioning the legitimacy 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:31.479 of Telena's final Facebook post, like Rachel, who was skeptical 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.319 about it from the moment she read. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.640 It, but literally just talked to her a couple of 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.560 days before a messenger and she was, fine. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.600 I'm on day nine of this virus and I am 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.800 pretty sure it has reached my lungs. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:50.680 We had talked about COVID. She didn't seem particularly worried 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:55.840 about it. She didn't seem to be like the sky 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.840 is falling kind of thing, which is what this post 0:13:59.040 --> 0:13:59.760 sounded like. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:03.400 I made the decision at the onset that if it 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.319 got bad enough, I would not go to the hospital, And. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.040 At the time when I read it, I'm like, that 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.920 just sounds weird. That doesn't sound like Telena. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:26.240 Telena's friends in Wagner are growing distrustful of Corey, and 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.440 so are the online sleuths. 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:36.720 We all had reservations about Corey, Like nothing she said 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.520 or did make sense. Why was she being like so 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:41.760 sketchy about everything? 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.160 Really, the biggest the biggest one was trying to figure 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:49.840 out who Corey was and and her history and you know, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.880 where did she come from. After we found out about 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:59.000 the Gorrians, we started deep diving Corey. So we googled 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:04.160 Corey and found out she had a criminal history, a felony. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.760 According to the documents they can access. Six years earlier, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.360 Corey was arrested and charged in Madison, Wisconsin for using 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:14.720 someone else's credit card. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.480 Her criminal records will pop up online and it said 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.800 she had used credit cards at different places. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.720 This discovery is interesting, but the online sleuths know enough 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.560 from their true crime shows that a past charge for 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.480 a nonviolent crime doesn't prove anything. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.280 A lot of us said, well, just because she's a 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.120 thief does not mean she's a murderer. That doesn't It's 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:36.800 not the same thing. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.000 So they keep digging, developing a basic profile for Corey. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.160 They learned that she grew up on a dairy farm 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.440 in Wisconsin with her mother, father, and one brother, and 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.400 since she left home, it seems as though she's traveled 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.760 a fair bit. They find addresses for her in at 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:55.920 least four states. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.320 We found out she had like thirteen different aliases, and 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.280 I was like, who the hell needs thirteen aliases? And 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.040 then I look myself up and I see I have 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.360 two different you know, my name is two different times 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:08.960 because I had been married. And then my maid name, 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.040 and I was like, that makes sense to have one 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.440 or two, but then thirteen. So we start googling like 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.960 her life and we download this app where you can 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.640 get background checks on people. We see who she was 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.880 married to, and then we start reaching out to people 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:23.600 she was married to. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.880 Not afraid to cold call strangers, Jess identifies two ex 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:33.880 husbands and reaches out first up David Sachs, who Corey 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.600 married in the nineteen eighties. His father owned a casino 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.760 in mob Era, Las Vegas. Jess has a few conversations 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.240 with him, and he offers some color about Corey, like 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.960 the fact she'd once worked in a coroner's office, but 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:53.000 he hasn't seen her in decades. Her second husband is 0:16:53.080 --> 0:17:00.000 more helpful. Alexander Adams is a Celtic musician who Corey 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.720 met in Oregon when she was an event coordinator. They 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.760 spent fourteen years together, traveling the country for gigs and 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:13.120 releasing music online. Alexander Adams or Alec as he goes by, 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.920 is receptive to Jess's questioning. He's in Wisconsin, but he's 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.960 heard about Tolina's disappearance and wants to help however he can. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.240 He tells Jess some of. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:28.760 Their backstory, filling in gaps in her research. Alec is 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.720 in the Renaissance festival circuit. In fact, he'd met Marty 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.720 slash Wolfe at the annual Oklahoma Renaissance Festival some years back. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.720 Alec tells Jess that Marty loved his music and asked 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.200 him to come to his private event, Gorefest. Corey went too. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.520 He invited Alec back to Gorfest to perform at the festival, 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.560 and he invited them back, like, hey, come perform for us. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.280 You know it's going to be great, and they went. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.280 It's here at Gorfest in the early two thousands where 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.840 Telena first meets Corey. The online sleuths are developing a 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:11.800 better picture of who Corey is from their conversations with Marty, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:17.160 Corey's ex husbands and the research into her past, and 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.719 then they find something huge. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.359 She used eBay to make a living. She'd sell stuff 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.199 on eBay and that's how she'd make money. And that 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.520 gave us the idea to look on eBay to see 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.120 what she's been selling. We'd all take turns kind of 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.200 creeping on it every day, like checking to see if 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:35.439 anything was up that was weird. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:40.919 One day, Nicole Telena's friend in Tennessee notices that Corey 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.840 is selling things that had been in to Lena's house. 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.000 Looking at old pictures of her house and you would 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.200 see that she was selling things off. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.520 Little by little. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.640 You could see clock in the background of a picture, 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.880 and then it was there on her eBay. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.119 We had seen her selling Telena's stuff, some clothes, these 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.960 metal like lawn flowers that she had gotten, I guess 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.440 Nicole had said. Telina was very excited about these lawn flowers. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.240 They're like metal. She had bottomed a flea market or something, 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.040 and she loved them, and we just we were all like, 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.479 what is going on here? Why is she selling this stuff? 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:23.240 Aside from just some trinkets and collectibles, they saw some 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.159 of Telena's most treasured belongings for sale. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.119 Her wedding ring to Tom was on there, and she 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:35.360 would never ever ever sell that wedding ring. And when 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.679 I saw that, and I saw his medals he was 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.879 awarded in the Army, I knew that there was no 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.639 way that she would have sold those things. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.920 Nicole comes up with a plan to get the items 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.040 back without Corey catching on. 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.600 I contacted my cousin and I asked her just to 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.960 buy them that I would pay her for them. She 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.400 lived in another state in Louisiana, and so I thought 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.560 that she would not knows me. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.840 Nichole's cousin wins the bid. Corey packs up the wedding 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.320 ring and some of Tom's military medals and ships it off. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:16.639 Niicole's cousin then forwards the package to her. Armed with 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:22.320 this evidence, Nicole contacts the cops, so does Jess, but 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.760 the response they get is not as enthusiastic as they hoped. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.600 At first, it was like, Okay, thank you, we're getting 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.400 a lot of tips, you know, thank you. We appreciate it. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.920 And we were really hyped up about the eBay thing. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:36.520 I was like, hey, this is huge. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.399 It's been twenty two days since Telena's cryptic Facebook post. 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.040 From the perspective of the online sluice, the cops aren't 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:49.760 doing anything. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.600 I was mad. I think all of us were mad. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.520 We were like, what the hell, it's plain's day, what 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:54.119 she's doing? 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.280 The Jess and the others aren't privy to what's going 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.920 on behind the scenes. On April twenty ninth, Detective Joel 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.840 Webber and a colleague go to Telena's property a brown, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:11.160 rustic lake house set back from the road. Corey invites 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.760 them in and gives them a tour. It's the first 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:17.840 time law enforcement has gone inside the house. She shows 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.600 them around the living areas and the bedrooms where she 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:26.480 and Telena slept. Here's how Detective Weber later described his visit. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.280 In that initial kind of walk through of the house, 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.520 there was several things that kind of, I guess stood 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.840 out a little bit. One of the things was in 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.879 the office room, there was a map on the wall 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.720 that had a lot of arrows on it. They weren't 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.400 drawn on the map. It came like from the distributor 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.720 or whoever, with those arrows on it, and it said 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.639 like the missing four one one on it or something 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.639 like that. And I asked Corey what that was or 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:57.840 what it was for, and Corey said it was just 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.000 all of the arrows indicated people that had gone missing 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.520 in national forests around the United States. I thought that 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:07.479 was significant. I made a mental note. There was a 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.200 map of missing people on the wall, and I'm there 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:14.720 looking for a missing person. It seemed unusual. I think 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.400 I went into I think I went into every room 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:19.080 and then also in the yard. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.720 Corey shows Weber around the yard, the garage, and then 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:29.240 he leaves. Meanwhile, the Sheriff's office is being inundated with 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:35.720 tips from friends, locals, psychics, and the online sleuths, and 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.960 a large number of them point at Corey. About a 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.200 week later, Detective Weber asked Corey to come back into 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.240 the station to address some of the rumors that have 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.760 been circulating. Here's a recreation of parts of their conversation. 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:58.199 Okay, good, I forgot a pen, So all right, just 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:01.160 had some fallow up cues from we talked about before. 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.280 Yeah, you probably. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.520 Already know that people on the internet are already talking 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.320 and saying lots of things. 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:13.639 And there's one gal online that you know, between some 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.040 misinformation and some fabrication. 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:22.520 It's unfortunate, right, everyone wants to be a detective. 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.679 Yeah, it seems that Corey knows about Jess and the 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:32.040 fine to Lena's our Facebook group, she's been lurking online. 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.040 Okay, so. 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.080 I'm getting told a lot of random stuff and a 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.760 lot of and I'll be completely honest with you, a 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.320 lot of people are pointing suspicion at you. 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.080 Detective Weber starts asking Corey about some of the tips 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:56.719 his office has received, beginning with questions about Corey's criminal record. 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.520 All Right, somebody brought up at some point that you 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.520 were charged with something and I don't remember what state, Okay, 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.199 Wisconsin or in Wisconsin Wisconsin? 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.960 Yes, so what happened in a nutshell? My husband? 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.159 Corey explains that a number of years ago, she and 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:25.840 her then husband, Alexander Adams, the Celtic musician, moved to Middleton, Wisconsin, 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.040 where her mom lives. 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.760 My husband and I spent every penny we had to 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.600