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Speaker 2: Sad jumping on the bus yet again on a Monday morning,

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Speaker 2: do a little NFL recap. I know you had probably

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Speaker 2: one of the spiciest games of the week. Do we

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Speaker 2: want to start there?

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Speaker 1: We can start there. I do know. I don't want

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Speaker 1: it to go unnoticed that I messaged Greg over the

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Speaker 1: weekend like I'm sitting there and as I'm watching games

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Speaker 1: and trying to process analytical angles or you know, situational football.

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Speaker 1: I shot Greg a text during the Big Ten Championship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when it was Ohio State trying to kick a kick

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Speaker 1: in the field goal? What was it the twenty five

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Speaker 1: yard or twenty eight yarder that they shanked to tie it,

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Speaker 1: And it was like late in the fourth or later

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Speaker 1: in the fourth, and I just shot Greg attext like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here watching that field goal. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of my head, Yeah, you tie the game, but is

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Speaker 1: this one of those situations where you don't tie the game,

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Speaker 1: you try to go for it, because again, all you're

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Speaker 1: doing is giving them three points. They have x amount

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Speaker 1: on the clock, It was like two minutes, yeah, two

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Speaker 1: minutes and change left. Two minutes and change left, So

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Speaker 1: plenty of time. Because like, yeah, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, no matter what, Indiana is just gonna need

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Speaker 1: a field goal to win the game. So if you

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Speaker 1: tie it, they need a field goal. But if you

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Speaker 1: you're you're challenging them. They're gonna have to get seven

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Speaker 1: on you. So I'm texting Greg, Hey's text back, yes

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Speaker 1: with exclamation points. I'm just letting them know, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to learn now.

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Speaker 2: So so you're Greg, your answer to Will was, yes,

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Speaker 2: you take the three in that situation.

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Speaker 1: No, you go for it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think they should have went for it.

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Speaker 3: Now Again, it's easy to have that perspective when he misses.

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Speaker 2: The kids, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, Monday's always tough

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Speaker 2: to be like, you should have done this, but we're just.

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Speaker 3: About so I always exactly, I always try to not

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Speaker 3: be the hindsight guy right and and always and make

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Speaker 3: a decision. Well, it's if Ryan Day knew the kid

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Speaker 3: the better team. You're paying bazillions of dollars to the kids.

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Speaker 3: You're big, and you're physical, and you pride yourself on

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Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly where the ball was, but it

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Speaker 3: I watching it transpire. College kickers, I don't pretend to

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Speaker 3: the NFL. I don't know what college field goal rates are.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a wild spread between good kickers and

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Speaker 3: the most part, everybody's kind of in the same bucket

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Speaker 3: to a degree. So, yeah, that was that was brutal.

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Speaker 3: And then remember in college, you miss a field goal

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Speaker 3: right there and they put the ball in the twenty.

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Speaker 3: So not only did you miss it, but you didn't

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Speaker 3: even have the luxury of Indiana having to snap the

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Speaker 3: ball from inside their own ten yard line because the

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Speaker 3: ball got moved to the twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he says they missed the kick and lost eleven

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Speaker 1: yards of field position. And then Greg on the next

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Speaker 1: drive he hits me and Oha State has to take

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Speaker 1: a time out after that long pass.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed a handful of people when there's when they

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Speaker 2: and they're all rushing to the ball and there's a

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Speaker 2: new set of downs. Everyone's trying to get hurry up

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Speaker 2: in my mind, it's like, dude, if you were in

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Speaker 2: and then you're usually gonna punt or do whatever after that.

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Speaker 2: If you're in a god to have the situation, why

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Speaker 2: I would clock it. Like you get a massive pass

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Speaker 2: of inn a minute, It's like, dude, go clock it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So offensively, when to use timeouts is always a

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Speaker 3: little bit tricky, right, so college rules again being a

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Speaker 3: little bit different because the clock will stop for it.

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Speaker 3: It feels like it stops at a very irregular time, right.

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Speaker 3: You get our first down with under two minutes, and

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Speaker 3: the clock will stop as they move the chains. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if anybody knows. Does it stop for five seconds?

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly the timeframe. Maybe a college guy

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Speaker 3: it dependent on how long the gain is and how

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know the answer to that. But tip.

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Speaker 3: The point Wills making that he tip we texted about.

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Speaker 3: I thought Ohio State needed to start using some of

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Speaker 3: their timeouts on defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because Indea popped him on third down past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the one they threw and they didn't they didn't

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Speaker 1: take a time out. They allowed Indiana to get you know, move.

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Speaker 3: You just don't ever want to go down. You always

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Speaker 3: want to use your time general rule of thumb is

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Speaker 3: you want to use your timeouts on defense, and you

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Speaker 3: want to use all of your timeouts either on one

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Speaker 3: That's kind of like an NFL rule exactly how that

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Speaker 5: Typically in an NFL game, that's the rule of thumbs.

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Speaker 3: So if you've already used the timeout with five minutes

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Speaker 3: to go, say, and you've got two remaining, you typically

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Speaker 3: want to use those remaining timeouts if you can on defense,

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Speaker 3: and you want to use them also on the plus

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Speaker 3: and it goes back into the psychology of all this,

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Speaker 3: that even though we're underneath the two minute warning, I'm

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Speaker 3: still as a defensive player, I'm no longer at the mercy,

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Speaker 3: I can still stop the clock, when in reality, if

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Speaker 3: the two minute, you actually would have more remaining time

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Speaker 3: set in the event you force to stop and turnover

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Speaker 5: But it just feels helpless to.

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Speaker 3: Not be able to stop the clock under the two

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Speaker 3: to use their timeouts on the bottom side, and that's

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Speaker 3: where they get in trouble because they split their timeouts.

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Speaker 3: But that's a whole different conversation. In that game, Yes,

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Speaker 3: they should have. I thought they should have went for it.

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Speaker 3: Try to take the lead. You're inside the ten, you're

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Speaker 3: the better team, you're big and physical, you pride yourself

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Speaker 3: on all these five stars. Go win the game. And

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Speaker 3: number two using the timeouts on defense, I thought. But

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it didn't really have

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Speaker 3: much of an effect. They didn't really have much of

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Speaker 3: a chance there at the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching the game last night, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: fourth and one, and they decided to go for it.

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Speaker 2: And that was a moment for me. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what Greg thinks about the situation because they

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Speaker 2: end up going for on fourth down because they're on

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Speaker 2: so it's fourth and one. If you don't get the

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Speaker 2: other team is obvious. They're already in field goal ring, right.

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Speaker 2: Both defenses have been playing incredible, like even though the

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Speaker 2: So they go for and fourth to one. Rashi Rice,

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Speaker 2: I think they You know, Mahome does a little bit

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Speaker 2: It's Houston's ball. And you if you're the coach of

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Speaker 2: absolute stud. He's at an offensive mindset. He's probably thinking

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Speaker 2: opposed to a defensive mindset, like Chris Collinsworth was talking

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Speaker 2: about on the broadcast, what would you do in the situation?

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Speaker 2: Are you putting and say, hey, we're incrementally like this

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Speaker 2: is the best move for us to play the field

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Speaker 2: position game at this point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was watching it live and I'll tell you,

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Speaker 5: Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: I would have said, the numbers, the analytics, the models,

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Speaker 3: I think, if I'm calling that game, I'm saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: I see the value.

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Speaker 3: I understand giving your offense and your team every opportunity

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Speaker 5: And if they.

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Speaker 3: Were ten yards further, if that ball was at the

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Speaker 5: And if the answer is yes, I'm probably not going

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Speaker 2: It, right, Yeah, because you're looking at how the game

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Speaker 3: You gain zero yards, you kick a field goal, and

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Speaker 3: you did nothing to earn those three points.

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Speaker 2: Were essentially giving it to you. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Now, if it was my game and it was the

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, thirty thirty eight thirty,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Here, if I'm calling my game in that situation, I'm

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Speaker 3: I give you the ball, nobody has proven they can

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm one with you because you're also but what

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Speaker 2: What's kind of happening. Yes, if you watched that game,

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Speaker 5: For the momentum. Best two aspects of the game that

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Speaker 5: wasn't momentum. That's who those teams are. Listen, they are

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Speaker 2: First off, I have so much respect for you, so

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Speaker 2: much show that when I'm watching the games, literally you

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Speaker 2: know that is no Well hey, but well let me

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Speaker 2: talk about it. Did you watch it? Did you watch

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Speaker 1: Which will game? I watched it, watched the second half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the second half, so you saw that them

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Speaker 1: The fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: Up until that point, the Houston Texans had negative three

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. They were playing awful. The minute they

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Speaker 2: we're in a four minute type of situation. Stam bounced,

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Speaker 3: Well it wasn't Overdy had two more possessions and what

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Speaker 5: Well, they dropped four balls, one.

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Speaker 2: For I don't disagree like that to me, was and

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Speaker 2: I got.

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Speaker 1: The momentum took over.

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Speaker 2: The momentum took over of the game.

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Speaker 5: It was all moment.

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Speaker 2: During the SEC championship broadcast, you remember me talking about Greg,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Greg's gonna hate this right now, but the

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Speaker 2: That is I know you hate it, but that is

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Speaker 2: I swear to God, all of us have done this,

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Speaker 2: Something happens on your on the other side, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: points and that is a deflator. You're still gonna play

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Speaker 2: just as hard. But those incremental things that you try

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 3: I'm not debating that we all felt that way. I'm

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Speaker 3: not debating that we've all walked onto the field feeling

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Speaker 5: All right, So let's take Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: I love it is exactly. This is the Monday I

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Speaker 5: With Dallas Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the Bahamas with my wife celebrating her

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Speaker 3: fortieth birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 3: We had a great trip. We had a great trip,

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Speaker 5: Or thinking.

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Speaker 3: And the situation was Dallas was down ten on fourth down,

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Speaker 3: many score game, guys.

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Speaker 2: One score game?

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Speaker 5: They made it a one score game. They were juiced.

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Speaker 5: They had all the momentum.

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Speaker 2: They had it.

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Speaker 5: They had it.

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Speaker 3: They took it from a two score game to a

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Speaker 3: one score game. They didn't go for touchdown. They kicked on.

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Speaker 5: Hey man, extend the game. Give guys hope.

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Speaker 3: Defense is gonna make a stop. Guess what Detroit did

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Speaker 1: They went the entire to score a touchdown. I know,

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Speaker 5: I know by cutting it to one score.

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Speaker 3: I was told by cutting it to one score, if

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Speaker 3: you went for a fourth down and it stayed a

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Speaker 3: to take the field. I'm not saying they didn't take

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Speaker 1: And that's one two where you go for it on

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Speaker 3: I think you go for it if you're Dallas because

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Speaker 3: that game, my best case is, all right, am I

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Speaker 5: Unlikely?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe if I'm motivated enough, But if maybe I

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Speaker 3: it and remain up three. You're you don't want to

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Speaker 1: No matter what, we're gonna have four downs.

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Speaker 2: You'd rather be tied in that situation than even be

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Speaker 2: four downs. Now they're gaining themselves different down, but again.

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Speaker 3: They still getting really into the weeds that they took

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Speaker 5: Get it to one score.

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Speaker 3: Everyone is so motivated and the momentum is so high

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Speaker 5: You were back down ten.

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Speaker 2: For what this is? What this is?

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Speaker 1: Sixteen minutes is so.

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Speaker 2: Not a full sixty minutes, But like whatever point you're

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Speaker 2: as a coach, you know how everything's going. This week

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Speaker 2: or last week. Everybody was talking about Cowboys. Look at that.

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Speaker 2: They get Kenny Clark, they got Quentin Williams. Look much

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Speaker 2: better of their defense? Is who's the linebacker? Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: We're buying, and we're buying it. And I said, listen, boys,

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Speaker 2: I'll go with you the Cowboys. I'm gonna let you know.

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Speaker 2: I've done this before. I know how this song and

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Speaker 2: reason I know is because it's right here. The Lions

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Speaker 2: You need to go get the seven. You have to

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott and the wide receivers ceed the lamb at

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Speaker 2: this time is out though, But it's it's everything situational.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes football incredible. Now, if we have the

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Speaker 2: that three and out, go for a punt, maybe with

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Speaker 1: Does do you are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you buying? Are you buying that at all?

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out what yard line they were on?

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Speaker 5: Give me a second. Yeah, when they kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys, Yeah, well it wasn't short.

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Speaker 5: I want to say it was inside the five.

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Speaker 1: were pretty close.

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Speaker 2: Oh if you're inside the five, buddy, Like this.

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Speaker 3: Is the field goal? They kicked the field goal, uh

442
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Speaker 3: from the eleven and fourth, fourth and three.

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Speaker 5: At the eleven.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let me ask, so let's stay with

445
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Speaker 3: that train of thought about the good defenses. Right, so

446
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 3: we'll take the will take the Chiefs Houston game to

447
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 3: put them in the exact same context.

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Speaker 1: And let's say it's seventeen to seven.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a low scoring game, ten ten, seventeen seven,

450
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Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's yeah, seventeen. Well, well, we'll take

451
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Speaker 3: the exact same situation. Right, let's say it's yeah, seventeen seven.

452
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Speaker 5: Is that what you said?

453
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Speaker 3: I yeah, seventeen seven. Yeah, I'm sorry, seventeen to seven.

454
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Speaker 3: And I'm whichever team let's say I'm Kansas City because

455
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Speaker 3: they made the decision you know that everyone didn't like.

456
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Speaker 3: And they're trailing seventeen to seven. Yeah, and they have

457
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Speaker 3: the ball fourth and three at the eleven, kicking that

458
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Speaker 3: field goal to go fourteen to ten.

459
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Speaker 5: I now kick the ball back off to c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud and I give them the ball let's say the

461
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Speaker 3: thirty five yard line.

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Speaker 5: Do you think CJ.

463
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Speaker 3: Stroud or if my defense is dominating the game and

464
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Speaker 3: my offense is struggling, don't you think I should give

465
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Speaker 3: my offense the advantage if I'm gonna tip the scales

466
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Speaker 3: as a coach in and give the advantage. Which the

467
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Speaker 3: advantage or the short straw? Do you think you should

468
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Speaker 3: give the advantage to the team that's already really good

469
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Speaker 3: in this case, your defense and protect them and not?

470
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Speaker 3: Or do you think you should give you your offense

471
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Speaker 3: the advantage because you're telling me how good your defense is?

472
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Speaker 2: No, I understand. What do you want your defense to

473
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Speaker 2: have the advantage? You want to give your offense as

474
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Speaker 2: much help as possible.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, if anybody's got to carry the short straw,

476
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Speaker 3: make it your defense, because I'm told how good they are,

477
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Speaker 3: and my offense is clearly struggling because we only have

478
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Speaker 3: seven points in this scenario, give them every chance because

479
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Speaker 3: I might not get the ball down to the eleven. Ever, again,

480
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Speaker 3: my best point, my best chance of trying this game

481
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Speaker 3: might be a fifty yard field goal down three. There's

482
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Speaker 3: no change going down seven, even if I get a stop.

483
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Speaker 3: The way this game is gone, there's no guarantee I

484
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Speaker 3: can even score a touchdown. I've only scored one up.

485
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Speaker 5: Into this point.

486
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Speaker 3: What tells you with the game on the line, you're

487
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Speaker 3: all of a suddenly going to figure out this Houston

488
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: defense and with the game on the line, go the

489
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Speaker 3: length of the field and score. So no matter how

490
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Speaker 3: you look at it, whether it's a high scoring game,

491
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Speaker 3: all right, you got to match points, keep your offense,

492
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Speaker 3: keep them on the field, or it's a low scoring game.

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Speaker 5: Hey, my defense is so much better than my offense.

494
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Speaker 3: I need to give my offense all That's what Andy

495
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Speaker 3: Reid was thinking the other night. Andy Reid was thinking,

496
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Speaker 3: in a three down possession, I can't crack this Houston

497
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 3: defense there, I just I can't get it first down. Yeap,

498
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to use fourth down at some point.

499
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Speaker 3: What better forget the yard forget the yard line. In

500
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Speaker 3: his brain, he's saying, if I'm gonna give my offense

501
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Speaker 3: a chance to sustain a possession, to even kick a

502
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Speaker 3: field goal, I need to use fourth down because three

503
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: is clearly not getting it done. I got fourth and one.

504
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Speaker 3: It's no, it's never gonna get any better than that.

505
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Speaker 3: Fourth and one in the NFL is like seventy percent

506
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Speaker 3: conversion rate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're saying, in a situation where it's seventeen ten,

508
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Speaker 1: you're still going to go for it because chances of

509
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Speaker 1: you being down at the eleven again or getting.

510
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Speaker 3: The top seventeen to seven exactly, So situation we're talking about,

511
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Speaker 3: low scoring, defensive battle. I'm still going for a touchdown

512
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Speaker 3: because seventeen to seven from the eleven, fourth and three

513
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Speaker 3: from the eleven. If I kick a field goal there

514
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Speaker 3: and I even and I get a stop, I get

515
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Speaker 3: a three and out. Great, that's best case scenario. Do

516
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Speaker 3: you have a ton of confidence that you're gonna be

517
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Speaker 3: able to get the ball down there again and score

518
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Speaker 3: when you haven't really been able to do it the

519
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Speaker 3: entire game.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a good point. Yeah, you know what I'm

521
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting over here and i know there's supposed to

522
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Speaker 2: be this debate happening, but I'm kind of I'm seeing

523
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Speaker 2: where you're coming from.

524
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Speaker 1: Here's the lasting watch all these situations. I'm like trying

525
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Speaker 1: to figure him out so much differently now, just with

526
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Speaker 1: Greg coming on each.

527
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Speaker 2: Week, It's like, yeah, he's a person. Life makes you

528
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: watch the world a little bit different.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've enjoyed it.

530
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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, but it's not necessarily like me,

531
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like champion this like crazy, radical

532
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: new age of thinking. But this is the way that

533
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: teams are thinking about the game. Andy Reid did not

534
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: make that decision in a vacuum, in the moment, out

535
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: of thin air. We're talking about a guy that's played

536
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Speaker 3: in six Super Bowls. Seven Super Bowls one four aren't

537
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: going to be a Hall of Fame first ballot. This

538
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 3: guy's forgotten more about football than nice Andy Reid. He's

539
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Speaker 3: forgotten more football than pretty much vast majority of the

540
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: people that are on earth. And people are just so

541
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Speaker 3: excited to crush him this morning for that decision. Because

542
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Speaker 3: we only we only evaluate the outcome if they got

543
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Speaker 3: a yard and a half there and they went down

544
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Speaker 3: and kicked the field goal, and let's say they ended

545
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Speaker 3: up winning the game. There was not going to be

546
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Speaker 3: one article, one tweet, one radio host, not one personality

547
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Speaker 3: maybe outside of this show, who was going to go

548
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Speaker 3: you know why they won because Andy Reid went for

549
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Speaker 3: it on fourth down and we need to give him

550
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Speaker 3: a a plus.

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Speaker 5: No one was set.

552
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Speaker 3: No one applauds when it works. No one this morning

553
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: woke up and said, Sean McDermott up by four end

554
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Speaker 3: of the game instead of kicking a field goal to

555
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Speaker 3: go up seven and take the point and make it

556
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Speaker 3: a touchdown game. He went for fourth down because he's

557
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Speaker 3: got the best player in the world, and Josh Allen

558
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: scores a touchdown to make it a true two score

559
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: game and it was over but no one had but

560
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Speaker 3: if he failed, and Joe Burrow then went down by four,

561
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Speaker 3: went the length of the field and had a walk

562
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Speaker 3: off touchdown. Sean McDermott's he's the number one topic of

563
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: every sports show this morning, and he's getting crushed, but

564
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: no one's giving him praise for making the right decision.

565
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: And that's why coaches are so scared to do this,

566
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Speaker 3: because it's easier to stand at the podium and say

567
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Speaker 3: kick the field goal, went up seven. Got to do

568
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Speaker 3: a better job getting a stop in that moment. Well,

569
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Speaker 3: you didn't get to stop the whole game. Joe Burrow

570
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Speaker 3: was incredible outside of one pick six that he just

571
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: threw to the gether. Like, we judge the outcome so

572
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Speaker 3: evenly because people are so anti this analytics tag that

573
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Speaker 3: they throw on everything, and I don't even think people

574
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Speaker 3: know what the hell they're talking about.

575
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, Yeah, The world of football as we

576
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: know it is evolving in front of our eyes, and

577
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: it's taking a lot of time for people to catch

578
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: up to the thought process of it's no longer about

579
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Speaker 2: playing field position being conservative, is now about let's define

580
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Speaker 2: the game right now. When the time to define the

581
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: game happens, we're going to define it good or bad.

582
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Speaker 2: We're going to know where we're at after this play.

583
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Speaker 1: And I love I love how you take it to

584
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Speaker 1: the thought process of the head coach, like the absolute leader,

585
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Speaker 1: the guy who has all the responsibility and accountability, because

586
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: you're right, it's like if you kick go up seven,

587
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow goes down, ties it or whatever it is.

588
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we need to do a better job

589
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Speaker 1: of getting to stop. Like all everything will be essentially

590
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Speaker 1: on the players. Not that they're blaming the players, but

591
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Speaker 1: everything's so easy to kind of sit there say we

592
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: got to do a better job of getting the stop,

593
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Speaker 1: and then all the the reporters and writers of the

594
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Speaker 1: world curated to essentially the players not getting the stop.

595
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Speaker 2: They've got to figure Yeah, And it's also what Dan

596
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: Quinn and Dan Campbell, these are the two that kind

597
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: of started this whole thing of going for and fourth

598
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: down and coaches are starting to realize, or the ones

599
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: that have some a sack are like, Okay, if we're

600
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: gonna get something done, like it's going to be defined

601
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: not when it hit zero, but when it's five minutes

602
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: left in the game. We're gonna know exactly how this

603
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: outcome is gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out, I'll be the one

605
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Speaker 1: up there. I'll take every fucking.

606
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Speaker 2: Tick, every bullet in the world. Which is a ball

607
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: to do.

608
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Speaker 3: Do you guys remember two years ago in the playoffs

609
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: when Dan Campbell when the Lions lost.

610
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Speaker 2: Yep, was the Packers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the NFC champion.

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Speaker 1: I believe NFC Championship because I'm like screaming at the

613
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Speaker 1: TV saying I don't know why you're not kicking the

614
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Speaker 1: field goal?

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Speaker 5: I should I should.

616
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Speaker 2: Hey, that's big of you to sit there and be like,

617
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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I want to say. It was the forty nine ers

619
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Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and they lost. There's a couple fourth downs where

621
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Speaker 1: it's like their story.

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Speaker 3: I think they went over three. H they at least

623
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Speaker 3: went over two. He might have went over three. You

624
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: remember him after the game standing at the podium, and

625
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: he's an emotional where's his emotions on a sleeve type

626
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: of a guy. And he's answering and he's standing tall,

627
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: but you could tell he's crushed. And he stood there

628
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: and he just ate it and he just took it.

629
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Speaker 3: And if he says, I'll do it again, and everybody

630
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: wanted to kill him, right, everybody couldn't believe it.

631
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 5: You cost your sale seat.

632
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Speaker 3: But when you take a step back, Detroit's not in

633
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship without that approach, right. So we were

634
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: fine with it when they were the greatest story in football,

635
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: but now all of a sudden it didn't work out. Right,

636
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 3: We want to judge the outcome, not the reason why

637
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: they did it, just the outcome, which is so lazy

638
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: and it's so easy to sit in hindsight and retrospect

639
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: and go, man, I was a dumb decision. Well, yeah,

640
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: you have the luxury of knowing the result. That's not

641
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: decision making. That's not the world. And has Dan Campbell

642
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: changed one ounce of his approach since then?

643
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: No? No, do you think.

644
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: He's scared to get up in front of the press

645
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: conference and answer it again if it doesn't work?

646
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Speaker 1: No? I like it diving into uh where you were

647
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: touching on earlier the Bengals Bills over there like twenty

648
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: something points scored in the last few minutes of the game. Bro,

649
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: How nuts of a game was that? Man, We had

650
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: the snow going out there, them trying to brush the

651
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: yard lines off. The numbers like that was when everybody

652
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: watching at home, that's like, this is football right here.

653
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: You're starting to hear everybody go, we're in playoff football. Yeah,

654
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: it's our playoffs. This is it, and it's fucking it's

655
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Speaker 2: awesome to see.

656
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bengals had a lead and then those last few minutes,

657
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: man just flipped.

658
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Speaker 2: Which is which is great because I mean you said

659
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Speaker 2: it earlier. Like Josh Allen, he's the greatest FOOTBA player

660
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: in the world world. The last four or five weeks,

661
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: it's kind of been in question a little bit, like

662
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: he hasn't his wide receiver group. They're not getting a

663
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: whole lot of separation. He's holding the ball up more.

664
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: He's not being as dynamic getting down down the field

665
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: as we saw him win the MVP last year. And

666
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: then half the game he has in front of you

667
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: while you're calling it, like, I just that fires me

668
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: up for Buffalo to be like, oh, that's the same

669
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: fucking dude, because they're starting to get chattered whisper, Hey, hey,

670
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Is he not saying he's not the guy,

671
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: but is he having a down year? Is it his fault?

672
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: Is he the reason? And so watching all unfold, man,

673
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: it was incredible from your vantage point. Did the Bengals

674
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: fucked this game up? Or was it just so it

675
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: was just like Josh Allen and the dominance of the

676
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills that really brought it home.

677
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: I think we saw two really high level quarterbacks just

679
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: absolutely rip it for four quarters.

680
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 5: And there was one bad playmate.

681
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow had Christian Benford come off the slot

682
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: and it was a hint it was a run play.

683
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 5: So we had talked.

684
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: We had talked at the be getting everything that Buffalo

685
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: is trying to do in the run game is they're

686
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: gonna use some corner cats, they're gonna use some perimeter

687
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: pressure from safeties and corners, and they're gonna try to

688
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: knife you and cause some negative runs. Right, everything's about

689
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: trying to create negatives on those early downs. So Joe

690
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: Burrow sees Christian Benford come off the slot and he's

691
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: pulling the ball and you can see he's trying to

692
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: get a handle on it to throw like a little

693
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: inside little lookie, like a little looky dart into the

694
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: into the void of where the pressure came from off

695
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: the off the edge, and he just doesn't get a

696
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: great handle on it, and he kind of pushes it

697
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: and he doesn't get nearly enough height on it, and

698
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: he throws it right into the hands of Christian Bedford

699
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: and he takes it back for a touchdown. Outside of

700
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: that play, you can't play quarterback better than Joe Burrow

701
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: and Josh Allen did collectively in a game.

702
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 5: It was big time froze.

703
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: It was in pressure, it was escapability, it was in

704
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: the snow accuracy, it was all of it encompassed into

705
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: one game. And that was an unfortunate play by Burrow,

706
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: and shit happens, but it was remarkable. And the point

707
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: about Josh Allen, so we said in our open a

708
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: lot of talk about James Cook in this run game

709
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: and the style which looks very different than what it

710
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: used to look like in the early days of Josh Allen,

711
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: where he was in the shotgun on every play and

712
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: he had the ball in his hand on every play,

713
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: and it was magic and he was Superman for four quarters.

714
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 3: The last couple of weeks, to your point, Tailors is

715
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: you're exactly right. They got very much away from that.

716
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: Last week two weeks ago against Pittsburgh, Josh was a

717
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: relative non factor outside of run here and there. It

718
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: was a heavy, heavy run game with Cook. We sat

719
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: in our open don't let it fool you. Critical moments,

720
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: critical downs, third down, goal line, gotta have it, two

721
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: minute drill, everything's on the line. The ball is going

722
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: to be in Josh Allen's hand, and he single handedly

723
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: won the game. He's got a forty something yard scramble

724
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: touchdown when they were down ten to cut it, then

725
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: again to play the game. Third and fifteen. Cincinnati is

726
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: about to get the ball punted back to him down five.

727
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: They just sacked Josh on second on they sacked him

728
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: on first down, so it was third and fifteen. They

729
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: max drop, they only rush four. They don't get to him,

730
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: and he scrambles untouched for a first down.

731
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: And they taken me and win the game. I mean,

732
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: he was the.

733
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: Best player on the field, and that's the Josh Allen

734
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 3: and the Buffalo Bills that were accustomed to seeing and

735
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: when it mattered most that did feel like a playoff game.

736
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: Even though one team was eight four one team was

737
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: four and eight. It had playoff fives, playoff atmosphere, and

738
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: Josh Allen was the best player on the field.

739
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: You think this Buffalo Bills team's got enough to get

740
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl this year? You know, great hates question,

741
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: I know, but it's like when you go against these

742
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: legit defenses, no, just in Denver, Like the thing with

743
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo is their inconsistency and kind of the you know,

744
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: their their weakness is their defense. Yeah, so when you're

745
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: going up against these these elite defenses that I just mentioned,

746
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, do they have enough? Are they

747
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: going to have enough to get to the super Bowl?

748
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: Because that's kind of the question with the Bills every year.

749
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the advantage in the AFC for all

750
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: the teams. So I'm gonna answer your question and not

751
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: answer your question. The answer is yes, right, I think

752
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: they're good enough, and I think partially is because of

753
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and when you have a quarterback like that,

754
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: especially if Lamar's not in it and Burrow's not in

755
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: it and Mahomes isn't in it, Like if that all

756
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 3: plays out, that those teams are all home for as

757
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: good as Drake May is. Oh, Nick's like these guys

758
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: are Drake May could potentially be the MVP. Do any

759
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 3: of those AFC teams really scare you? Are you saying,

760
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: oh my god, how are we going to beat the

761
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: fifteen win Chiefs? Oh my god, how are we going

762
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: to beat the thirteen win.

763
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 5: Ravens?

764
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, not really, not really.

765
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I think any of those AFC teams could be any

766
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: of those teams. I think the path through the AFC

767
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: this year is vastly different than it has been the

768
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: last couple of years, where it was almost a foregone

769
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: conclusion it was going to come down to some combination

770
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 3: of Lamar, Josh Allen, and Mahomes. Right, seemed like everybody

771
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: else was just playing like fun games, like, yeah, it's

772
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: really cool that the Texans made it. Oh, it's really cool.

773
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: But did any of those teams really think that they

774
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: were going to make a run to the Super Bowl?

775
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 5: Not really.

776
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: I think every all seven AFC teams that end up

777
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 3: making it this year, I think home away whatever. If

778
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: I was in the AFC, I would not be scared

779
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: to play any of them. I'm probably not thrilled to

780
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 3: play Houston's defense.

781
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are so good.

782
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: I don't fear.

783
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: All the advantage I have playing against Houston is I'm

784
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: not like, holy shit, the defense is so good and

785
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: I got to find a way to score twenty five points.

786
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: You might be able to beat them by scoring thirteen

787
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: to seventeen points.

788
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's not like NFC feels like

789
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: it's what the NFC West and the Packers.

790
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: NFC is a juggernaut.

791
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: NFC is psychotical.

792
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, I don't want to throw the Niners

793
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: out of it at all because of what they've done

794
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: this year. But so you got the Rams, Seattle, the Niners,

795
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: and the Packers, I feel like are the ones that

796
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: are playing high level football.

797
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, even though defending Super Bowl champion and the defending

798
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: Super Bowl champ who yes have been a very weird

799
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: anomaly as far, still could arguably be the most talented,

800
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 3: not the best, but the most talented roster in football

801
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: who just went on a playoff run last year and won.

802
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: The whole thing.

803
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: And they're like the fifth sixth option out of the NFC, right, now.

804
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: On paper, right, yeah, that is scary. But for Buffalo,

805
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, if you run into a team

806
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: that can run the ball effectively and play good defense,

807
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: you're you're in trouble. That's where that's you get Bige,

808
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: that's where we get to right their offense. But like

809
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, Sean Payton and the dever Broncos, I feel

810
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: like they might be from a playoff standpoint, the most

811
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: built to play in the playoffs.

812
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: Until the Patriots go down. Man, I like, obviously they've

813
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: had a weaker schedule when we talk about schedules, and

814
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna get see it this weekend when it's Buffalo

815
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 1: Patriots round two now.

816
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: But the thing that I don't know who I was

817
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: listening to on the drive is Coward. He was talking

818
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: about the Patriots and he's like, yeah, but they they

819
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: are not like really great at wearing the football. They're

820
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: great throwing the football, which is I know, great. Trust me,

821
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll land this plan to where we can

822
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: both agree. But when you get into the playoffs and

823
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: you're playing in the stadiums in January, when it's open

824
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: that the weather is different, it's freezing outside wind everywhere snow,

825
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: it's now more difficult to throw the ball down the

826
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: field the way that the Patriots have. It's like you

827
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: have elements playing against you along with the defense as well.

828
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: That's what makes me worried for the Patriots, because you're right,

829
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: like the best team in the AFC right now is

830
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: clearly the Patriots.

831
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with. I don't disagree or pushback on anything.

832
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 3: You just say, playoff football the formula for playing good offense.

833
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: You know, just winning in the playoffs is very different

834
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: than winning in the regular season.

835
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: You've said that a few times on the show.

836
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: So as I sit here and talk about the value

837
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 3: of the passing game and scoring points and all that

838
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 3: in the regular season.

839
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: Yes, when you look at the best.

840
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: Teams year in and you're out, there's always going to

841
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: be a couple that are like top five defenses and

842
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: like middle of the road to bottom half offenses. The

843
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: vast majority of the teams in the playoffs every year

844
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: are going to find themselves in like the top ten

845
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: of offense. Different years. There's different anomalies, but over large

846
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: periods of times it's an offensive driven playoff picture. And

847
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: then there's the couple wrinkles when you get to the

848
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: playoffs and all the crappy teams are home, and we're

849
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: only left with teams that are for the most part

850
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: good at offense. They're probably have a good quarterback, there's

851
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: probably some element of a passing game. Now, what is

852
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 3: the differentiating factor to weed out the remaining teams? Run

853
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: game defense, special teams, clock management, end of game strategy like,

854
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: that's where all those things carry even a bigger significant

855
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: So no, I don't push back on any of that.

856
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: I think running them. I think the way Josh. I

857
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: think the way the Bills are built. While they're nine

858
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: and four in the regular season and people are going,

859
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: what's wrong with the Bills. We're used to them having

860
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: thirteen wins, I actually think a worse regular season record

861
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: as a result of the way they're playing, I actually

862
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: think bodes better for them come playoff time because they

863
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: don't need a hero performance every single minute in every

864
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: play from Josh Allen. And that's been their problem in

865
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: the years past.

866
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: The thing that going to the other team that just

867
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: played the Bengals, you know, those things obviously out of

868
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: the controllables are like Joe Burrow every year he's getting hurt,

869
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: and you kind of go back to the after his

870
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: first season when he tore his ACL and they're like,

871
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: they have a top five pick, they should take an

872
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: offensive lineman. They name taking Jamar Chase, which is you know,

873
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: obviously played out extremely well, but every year he's getting hurt.

874
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: He's three and one this year as a quarterback, and

875
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: their defense is terrible. Like, as you're watching the game

876
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: and just from your football brain seeing everything on the field,

877
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: how far off is that defense and is that offensive

878
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: line from being like, Okay, we can now start looking

879
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: at the Bengals again as a team that we need

880
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: to throw in the AFC consistently, because every preseason it's like, oh, yeah,

881
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: these are the guys and you less enough the quarterback

882
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow's clearly in there, but then it's always

883
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: an injury that takes place, and look how shitty their

884
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: defense is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think offensively, I'm not saying the offensive

886
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: line is great. They're average to blow average as a group,

887
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: but quarterbacks elevate the ceiling of an offense and offensive line.

888
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: Elevate the floor.

889
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: Right, So the better your offensive line is, you just

890
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: build up. Okay, we're at least as good as this,

891
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: whatever that level is. But when you have a quarterback

892
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Speaker 3: and you have Jamar Chase and t Higgins was great yesterday,

893
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: and you have all this skill and the ability to score,

894
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: you can outplay your offensive line. You can play above

895
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: and beyond what they're capable of. I think the year

896
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: that they went to the Super Bowl, wasn't he sacked like.

897
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 5: Seventy times? Yea, the most you sacked one hundred times

898
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 5: in that game.

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Speaker 2: But that game came down to Aaron Donnald.

900
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: Couldn't protect the passer because Aaron Donald, who was an animal.

901
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: So I say all of that to say, offensively, I

902
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: think they're fine. Now you're paying a ton of money

903
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: to offensive skill players, and that's gonna come at the

904
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 3: demise of something else. Right, You're gonna have to draft really,

905
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: really well. You're gonna have to win. You draft offensive lineman,

906
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: defensive lineman. You're gonna have to play a lot of

907
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: young players because you need some cheap contracts to offset

908
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: the really expensive guys. And that's the nature of anybody

909
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: who's paid a top, top of the market quarterback, and

910
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: that's anybody that has multiple highly paid offensive or defensive

911
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: players but traditionally offensively, So it really puts a ton

912
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Speaker 3: of stress on your draft picks and those young d

913
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: linemen and those young linebackers that Cincinnati right now has

914
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: in the lineup, how fast and how good can they be?

915
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: Because again, they don't need to be the Houston Texans defense.

916
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: They don't need to hold people to fourteen points a game.

917
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: If they could, it's kind of along the lines of

918
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: like Dallas, right, So I kind of look at them

919
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: at the same portion. If they could keep their offense

920
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: exactly where it is and just get middle of the road,

921
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: be the sixteenth, the eighteenth, the twentieth rank defense ind

922
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: points per game, you're gonna win a lot of games,

923
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: but you can't be scoring thirty and give up thirty two.

924
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: And that's Dallas, that's Cincinnati. So I think that's all

925
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: of their resources going forward have to be put on

926
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. And that's easier said

927
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 3: than done because it's gonna mostly come through the draft,

928
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929
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560
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930
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931
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932
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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to sneaky sneak sak in the AFC. Trevor, like,

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Speaker 2: Greg, Yeah, they play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it goes back to our previous conversation. I

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1001
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1002
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Man, heart goes out to Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones,

1003
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: bro like I when he's hitting the ground and you're

1004
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Speaker 1: hearing that it's an achilles, Like, I felt so fucking

1005
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Speaker 1: bad for him. And that's just where the thought goes

1006
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: into my mind, where it's like admiration and playing honorably

1007
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: does not eventually get you paid. Because he's out there

1008
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: playing on a fractured fibula, like he's tough, He's got

1009
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: this story. I personally like, as competitors, you just love

1010
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: to see this quarterback. He's got something going on, but

1011
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: he's trying to make it happen because the Colts have

1012
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: a real shot this year. And then to go out

1013
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: there and see it go down like that and he

1014
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: ruptures his achilles, knowing that this's got it's a compensation,

1015
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: like just knowing that all that played into it, and

1016
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: you just see the emotion I am pounding the ground.

1017
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: He's on a you know, basically a prove it contract

1018
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: this year. He was proving it this year and to

1019
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: go down like that with an achilles injury, you know

1020
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be part of the entire situation when

1021
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: he gets paid next to.

1022
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: A huge part of it, like tens of millions of dollars. Yeah,

1023
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: especially in the quarterback room. The good thing, let's play

1024
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: this whole thing out. The good thing for Danny Dimes

1025
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: is they trade away their first round pick to acquire

1026
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner.

1027
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Correct.

1028
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: So by making that decision, you're saying, you're telling the

1029
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: rest of the NFL, Okay, we are going for a

1030
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year. That's that's what you're telling the

1031
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: rest of us. But what you're also doing is you're

1032
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: giving all the leverage to Daniel Jones and saying you've

1033
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: proven enough to be our quarterback of the future. We

1034
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: want you to be our guy. We want you to

1035
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: be our guy so much that weird, we're gonna take

1036
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: this first round pick we have, We're throwing out the window.

1037
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about a quarterback at all

1038
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: in the drafting more because you're our guy.

1039
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get a defensive piece.

1040
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now the situation happens, he's I still believe. I

1041
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a cult next year. I think

1042
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna have one hundred million dollar contracts. Probably he

1043
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: probably have a similar contract to Sam Donald. It's not

1044
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: gonna be insane like you see like the mahomes lamar

1045
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: As all those guys. But you're gonna get yourself. You know,

1046
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten, one hundred and twenty probably could

1047
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: have been one to fifty. Stopped me. If you guys

1048
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: think I'm wrong at all.

1049
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't know all the I don't know all of

1050
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: the contractual stuff with like I'll say the top ten

1051
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: to fifteen guys. I think, dude, some dads are making

1052
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: like but bro, yeah, I don't you say Sam Donald.

1053
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I don't know if it's gonna be

1054
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: a Sam Donald. Like Sam Donald still went he went

1055
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: like what fourteen and two last year or whatever the

1056
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: numbers were, Like, had a tough playoff game, but he

1057
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: still went off and got broke off because he played

1058
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Speaker 1: really well and finished like statistically, he was one of

1059
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks in the NFL. Daniel Jones was for

1060
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: the first half of the season, had a couple shaky

1061
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: last coupleys because he's playing on a fractured fibula, a

1062
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: fractured leg, goes down with an achilles injury, which is

1063
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: one of the worst injuries to have as a player.

1064
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: Like I don't see him, I see them trying to

1065
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: figure out a way to take care of him and

1066
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: everything else. But make no mistake, they will be using

1067
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: that against him. To no doubt, he will not even

1068
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 1: come close to what he could have gotten paid.

1069
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: As we all sit here as all washed up athletes,

1070
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: I love your opinion on this. Obviously, there was a

1071
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: time when you were playing. You have an injury and

1072
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: it's not your hurt. You have an actual injury where

1073
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: it's like this could long term hurt you, and you

1074
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: put the helmet on, you decide to play. All those

1075
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: times you did that, all of the times you did that, like,

1076
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: did it ever? Do you think it paid off? Do

1077
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: you think it's worth going out there being tough for

1078
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: your team, doing all the things that were a brainwashed

1079
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,279
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1080
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: no matter what, all the things. Do you think it's

1081
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: really worth that? Or the world we live in now

1082
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: we have to understand how much of a business it

1083
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: actually is. And maybe these old heads that were talking

1084
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: to us when we first got in the league, they

1085
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: were right all along.

1086
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 5: It's a great question, and I sit here now my

1087
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: answer is, of course it was worth it.

1088
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like.

1089
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: I think learning how to play through injury, and learning

1090
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: how to play hurt and learning how to never feel great,

1091
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: I think that's a learned skill. I think you have

1092
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 3: to learn. I used to tell young guys all the time.

1093
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: Before you're able to play with a sprained ankle, you

1094
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: better be able to practice with a sprained ankle. By

1095
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: the time you play with a shoulder that's feeling crappy

1096
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: in the game, you better see what that what that

1097
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: shoulder feels like on Wednesday, and figure out how to

1098
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: get yourself moved and shaken and what break. There's an

1099
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: art to playing for long periods of time. There's an

1100
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 3: art to not missing games. People always say, oh, man,

1101
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: you've been so lucky with injuries. Yes, you're lucky that

1102
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: you don't get catastrophic injuries, right you break your leg,

1103
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 3: tear your ac l, blow your achilles, shoulder like, there's

1104
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: some there's some injuries that are just unavoidable and you

1105
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: just can'n't care how tough you are, you just can't

1106
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: play through them. But there's a lot of games missed

1107
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: by guys where I would argue they can play through them.

1108
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: The art of learning how to do that is very different.

1109
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Now I had the ability, and.

1110
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: It's all very long time. It's all very gray, subjective, like, yeah,

1111
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: you don't know and you don't know how this guy feels.

1112
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, if every time I didn't feel good, and if

1113
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: every time I woke up not feeling my best, or

1114
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: every time I put on my cleats and my foot

1115
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: was sore and my ankle was sore and my head

1116
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 3: felt a little groggy, or if every time that happened

1117
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: I went to the trainer and got put into some

1118
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: sort of rehab process, I would have played five years.

1119
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

1120
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: There's an element of luck. There's an element of preparation,

1121
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: right what you do to your body. There, it's not

1122
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: a coincidence that some guys do some guys don't get hurt.

1123
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: I think there are some elements of it guys control.

1124
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: I think there's some elements that are completely out of

1125
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: your control. I do think there's a third element that

1126
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 3: guys are scared to really talk about that. I think

1127
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: you got to just learn how to play with shit,

1128
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: and there's an art to it. If I told you

1129
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: the amount of things I've had injected, not with pain killers,

1130
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: but like we've all had tourtal, we've all had anti courtizone,

1131
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: anti inflammator, Like we've all done it. At least I'll

1132
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: raise my hand.

1133
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: And say I've done.

1134
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: Every single game I never had.

1135
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: Now, I'll be clear, I've never had pain killers. I've

1136
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: never played a game on pain killers. I'm not judging

1137
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: people who have. I was in a different era early

1138
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: in my career. Guys were still doing like DMSO and

1139
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 3: it was a little bit different. That kind of went

1140
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: away with the new CBA and all that. But like,

1141
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: I never played a game on pain killers. I was

1142
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: never given painkillers. After my couple surgeries. I never even

1143
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: took them, Like I stayed away from pain killers. But

1144
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: I've had corterzone shots in almost every joint in my body.

1145
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: I've had back injections where on Fridays I couldn't stand up.

1146
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 3: I'd have back injections and play on Sunday, Like that's

1147
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: the reality of the game. And I wouldn't do it

1148
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: any different if I had to go back. But I

1149
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: also had the luxury of playing fourteen years and I

1150
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 3: went ten years without missing a game. I was very

1151
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: lucky in that sense. But I also played a lot

1152
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: of games where I was not healthy. I played games

1153
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: with broken elbows in a big ass brace, and I

1154
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: played games with a broken like you just do what

1155
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: you gotta do to play, and I don't regret any

1156
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: of it.

1157
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all very situational. Luck does come into

1158
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: the equation a lot, like it's it's like I'm proud that,

1159
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: Like I had a Grade two PCL that I had

1160
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: torn and I got PCL's the worst and I was

1161
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: back like I was, you know, I was absolutely everything

1162
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: I possibly could to get back, and I was back

1163
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: on the practice field like eight or nine days was

1164
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: able to I missed one game. It was actually against Carolina.

1165
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: When you guys came to town in like twenty sixteen.

1166
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Or something like greg Olson on the list, he was scared. Yeah,

1167
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: oh yeah, buddy, I hear you know what to be

1168
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: an honest coach, not this week.

1169
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 1: And you know I was in a spot too where

1170
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: I was on a what is it called when you

1171
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: were not a restricted I was an exclusive rights free

1172
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: agent that year. Since I had a practice squad year

1173
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: and another credited season didn't count toward my free agency,

1174
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: they had me on an exclusive rights free agency deal.

1175
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: And then the next year I was going to be

1176
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: a restricted free agent. And you're hopeful that they're going

1177
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to admire your willingness to fight and get back on

1178
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: the field and hopefully it gets you on the back end.

1179
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: But playing those the rest of the season on a

1180
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: torn PCL, it's like there there's one play against New

1181
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: York where we're on a win and in game and

1182
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Eli Manning hits put the old index fingers together, I

1183
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: know what plays coming. They're doing a three flat screen.

1184
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm mugged up in the a gap. I tell Mason Foster, hey,

1185
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: you run the blitz. I'll take the coverage in this assignment.

1186
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Whenever we identify where their block of protection. I see

1187
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: ELI do this. I'm coming as a three player. I'm

1188
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that chases this three flat screen.

1189
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't break down good enough. I missed the tackle

1190
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: damn win in the game. That's weighed on my mind

1191
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: forever because I look back and like, because I'm playing

1192
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: on the torn PCL, you're hoping it pays off for you.

1193
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: They get you in an undrafted restricted rights for agent.

1194
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. It didn't work out for me that way.

1195
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: But then I think about when I was trying to

1196
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: make the team on practice squad my rookie year, and

1197
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: I have a torn hamstring and I'm just like, Okay,

1198
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: Keenan Robinson has a torn pack, he's out for the year.

1199
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: He's on IR. Jeremy Kimbro the guy in front of me,

1200
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: he just tore his hamstring like fully.

1201
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: Grade three off the bone. He's out.

1202
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: It's my time to run with the twos. I had

1203
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: caught a Grade two of my upper like right below

1204
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: my ass and it was fucking painful. But if I

1205
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: don't go out there and play, I never even play

1206
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So to me, it's like there is

1207
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: this I guess, like skill or whatever you want to

1208
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: call it. Then there's these unlucky situations where you think

1209
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: back on it's like, damn, I shouldn't have played on

1210
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: that torn PCL. But all of my entire mentality I'm

1211
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: playing with injury. It's like I probably would have never

1212
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: even been in that position anyway. Yeah, so it is

1213
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, what is it? Is this a phrase

1214
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: where you used to catch twenty two? I never even understood.

1215
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Don't your career? It's like, I see what.

1216
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: It made your career? Yes, and then others my biggest regret.

1217
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: So I say all of this that I don't have regrets.

1218
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 5: I guess I do have one. Two thousand and seven.

1219
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: So I went from two thousand and seven to two

1220
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: thousand and seventeen and I never missed a game. Twenty seventeen,

1221
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: Week two, I break my foot at home, maybe against Dallas.

1222
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: I don't remember who it was, but it was our

1223
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: first home game. I broke my foot. I broke my

1224
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: fifth metatarsal.

1225
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: Yep.

1226
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a bit of an injury.

1227
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: I have two scenarios. We we thought we had a

1228
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: really good team and throughout we were winning. And so

1229
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: there's two scenarios. You can go in and get a

1230
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 3: screw put in and it's like a six to eight

1231
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: week recovery, which I'm always like, oh, I'm gonna be

1232
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: five right, like we all think.

1233
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 5: We all play that game.

1234
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: Or you can go in and you can get the

1235
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 3: screw and a bone graph, and you're out for the

1236
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 3: whole season. So in my mind, I'm like, well, that's

1237
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: not Why would I ever you tell me six to

1238
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: eight weeks.

1239
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 5: I'm doing six to eight weeks. Why would I do

1240
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 5: three months and miss.

1241
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: The whole season.

1242
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I go, I get the bone graph, I

1243
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: rehab like crazy, and I come back and we make

1244
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I wasn't particularly great movement wise, but I

1245
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: was good enough to play the rest of the year

1246
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: and finish the season. We lost in the playoffs, but

1247
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: I was like it was worth coming back to finish

1248
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: the year with the guys, Right, I go all off season,

1249
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: no issues with my foot feeling better, better, better. First

1250
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: game of two thousand and eighteen, I rebreak my foot,

1251
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: same foot, same foot. I cracked so the pit the

1252
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: screw held, I cracked the bone on top and bottom

1253
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: but the bone was held together by this screw that

1254
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: was put in a year ago.

1255
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 5: So I missed the next like three games.

1256
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: But they tell me, as long as the bone holds,

1257
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: as long as once it breaks all the way through,

1258
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to get surgery. Anyway, you could try

1259
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: to play through this. Well, we do everything in our

1260
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: power to get the bone to heel, bone stimulators, you

1261
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: name it. And I come back and through my rehab process,

1262
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: I get planner.

1263
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 5: Fashiet is.

1264
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm playing down in Tampa and my planner explodes. It's

1265
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: like I stepped on a hand grenade. So I'm done now,

1266
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: seasons lost. I go now have a second surgery on

1267
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: that foot. Bone graph fix it. That foot never felt better.

1268
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: I developed some other foots compensation stuff on the other leg.

1269
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: Long story short. If I would have gotten the bone

1270
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: graph initially and missed all of the twenty seventeen season

1271
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 3: and just bag that, I think I played the entire

1272
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: eighteen without missing time. I played the entire nineteen and

1273
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 3: maybe I played longer. Maybe the last three years of

1274
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 3: my career. I'm more productive. I'm better right, who knows.

1275
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 5: But in the moment, there was no telling me to

1276
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 5: do the longer surgery to like worry about myself and

1277
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 5: not come make a playoff run like that never even

1278
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 5: that never was even an option.

1279
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, when they kind of put these things

1280
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 2: in front of you. In twenty sixteen, we were playing

1281
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts at the Colts and this is this

1282
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: is the first year I made my first Pro Bowl,

1283
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: and I was I think, we're like halfway through the

1284
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: season and I'm kind of greg I'm on like a

1285
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: little bit of a tear, like no sacks giving me

1286
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: Jack Clonkin as well, like Jack had like maybe one

1287
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: sack or like even no sacks as well. But we're

1288
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: like in the eighth week and it's like they're starting now.

1289
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: We whispers like we're turning around. Where we went from

1290
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: three to thirteen, now we're going there. We end up

1291
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: being nine and seven. It's like, oh fuck, like this

1292
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: is a real possibility. My team is gonna be like,

1293
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: you can make the Pro Bowl this year. You're playing

1294
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: like that, So this is like all my mind. We're

1295
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: playing the Colts. We slide the protection to the right,

1296
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: so I go from being man on this guy they

1297
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: have seven up and Marcus goes, hey, we're sliding all

1298
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: the way right. So I go and I take over

1299
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: the four I and I have him into Marco. Murray

1300
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: cuts the edmin on the line of scrimmage into my

1301
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: left leg, hyper extends my leg and so I hear

1302
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: like a crack and I like lay there and I'm like, no,

1303
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: is this what it's like to tear your a cl

1304
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 2: And they come up. Doctor comes up, does the thing

1305
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: and he goes, hey, we think you tore your a cl.

1306
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: We think you're done for the year. We'll have to

1307
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: do em Ara on it. I'm you know, I get

1308
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: in the blue tent, we go in the locker and

1309
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm like this, there's no fucking way that this is

1310
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: how it ends. I end up getting the MRI and

1311
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: there's like what, I don't know what whatever bone, this

1312
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: one is the big one. I have like a crack

1313
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: down it and they're like, hey, you good news. Bad news.

1314
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: Good news is this bone has a hairline fracture down it.

1315
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: The bad oh no, that's the badness. The good news

1316
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: is your ACL is your aco is actually intact.

1317
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: It's fine.

1318
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: Maybe to take a couple of weeks off. Let's get this.

1319
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: Let's get this bone to heal. Up just fine, and

1320
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: then we know we can go through this here, and

1321
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no fucking way. We played the Bears

1322
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: next week and you talked about never did pain pills

1323
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I never took pain pills during

1324
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: a game. But from week like eight to like I

1325
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: think we got into the wild card that every Monday

1326
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: through Saturday, it was popping a couple Sundays. I felt

1327
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: too uncomfortable to take anything like that because I wanted

1328
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: to have my wits about me. But it was do

1329
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: as much as you possibly can, and it ends up

1330
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: working out that way where it's like, all right, made

1331
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. But like that detalks after when the

1332
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: season's over. I guys don't talk about that enough where

1333
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 2: it's like you, yeah, you put yourself in that position.

1334
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm a I got four or five days where I'm

1335
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: like legitimate withdrawals of like shaking, uncomfortable and it just

1336
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: it sucks. But you you go back to it and

1337
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm so proud I did that, because if

1338
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 2: there's a piece of you, like week twelve, when the

1339
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: boys are like I'm feeling this way, like you know

1340
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna be like you know, I got like a

1341
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: hairline fracture. I'm playing on a broke I'm playing on

1342
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: a broken leg, like at.

1343
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 5: The end of the year. By the end of the year,

1344
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 5: it's a compound fracture.

1345
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're just yeah exactly, it's like, oh,

1346
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: you you you rolled your ankle. That's cool. My leg's

1347
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: broken and I'm in it's been broken for six seven weeks.

1348
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, you go ahead if you want to play,

1349
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 2: it's fine.

1350
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of take that. You kind of just

1351
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: take that risk. Man. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it's again,

1352
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: it's like Danny when I heard that he had the

1353
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: like a fracture, he was playing on a fracture fibula.

1354
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: The p ATSD in my brain is I had before

1355
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: I had my broken fifth minute tarsal.

1356
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 7: Greg.

1357
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: It was at Nebraska and we were in this big

1358
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: time linebacker competition with a few of us in the

1359
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: same class. This is Levante David's first year as well.

1360
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: He's making splash plays. And I had a hairline on

1361
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: my on my foot when I got X rays and

1362
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, you could miss the opening week

1363
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: of the season. I was slated to be the starter.

1364
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: So on my head, I'm like, you know, you can't

1365
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: not be on the field or on the practice field

1366
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: and let other guys get opportunity because somebody might when

1367
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: it's close, because they could take it over. And so

1368
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: I go out there in the next week of practice.

1369
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: It was the Thursday kind of like a jog through.

1370
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: It was just helmets before the first before the opening

1371
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: game of the season, and it's just a guy jogs

1372
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: and runs a stick route. I plant below my fifth

1373
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: menataur soul. I have to get the pin put in it.

1374
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm out, I think seven weeks, come back for the

1375
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Texas game. But by the time I come back from

1376
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: my broken foot with now a pin in it. Lavonte

1377
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: David is Levante, the lavalante Dave is now that we've

1378
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: seen in the league that's played forever. He comes out

1379
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: first game, has thirteen tackles, blow somebody up over the middle.

1380
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm up there on a scooter watching from the press box,

1381
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: just thinking, Yeah, this job ain't gonna be here when

1382
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I get back.

1383
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: That the worst feeling.

1384
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Lavante was such a stud. You just

1385
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of you might have these arguments in your head

1386
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: of you know, if coaches might be feeling a guy,

1387
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: But hey, I know I'm playing better than this guy.

1388
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: That was one where it's like Leavonte, the way he

1389
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: slipped through blocks and everything else. Him being undersized, It

1390
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: didn't matter the dude. The tape kind of spoke for itself,

1391
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: and it's one you can't really just kind of you

1392
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: know what, rolling situations? Am I going to get to

1393
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: play some ball?

1394
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1395
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1396
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: I didn't even know if you get hurt.

1397
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: But the fifth meta tarsl sucks man with the pen

1398
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: the worst.

1399
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we're right end of my career. I

1400
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 2: know we got to get out of here before we

1401
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: got rock Tampa Bay lose the Saints. I looked at

1402
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: that game and I was like, I'm not even gonna watch.

1403
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 2: Just look down at the ship. I'm like, holy shit,

1404
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: they the Saints one.

1405
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1406
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: And so now like your Panthers are right there, they're tired,

1407
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: they shot. You think they're gonna pull it off.

1408
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 5: Against it.

1409
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: They got two games, they got to two of their

1410
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: last four against Tampa. They got two against Tampa Heart

1411
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 3: a tough game against Seattle and against New Orleans this week.

1412
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 5: So it's in there. It's in their hands.

1413
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: Greg, you're the man, bro, thank you for appreciate you

1414
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: guys for joining the boys. Uh, see you again next

1415
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: week and I'll be watching ball all situations when I'm

1416
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna be texting me in to text you text me.

1417
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: See you, brother.

1418
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate you.

1419
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: I love that dude. What a fucking guy. Just just

1420
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: a good thirty minutes for all the viewers out there

1421
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: listening who want a football recap, just hearing me Will

1422
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: and Greg talk about how tough we were at one

1423
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: point in our lives. Are you hurt or are you injured?

1424
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: And we didn't get to talk about this dude, But

1425
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: I feel like the true path of an athlete, like

1426
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: being a true athlete, is the ability to compensate, Like

1427
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: you can be fast, strong, quick, all those things, but

1428
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: it's when these like issues happened in the foot and body,

1429
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: like Greg brought it up, like when he had that

1430
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: fifth minute to tars for the second time he had

1431
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: other compensation issues. Great athletes have the ability to like

1432
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: compensate when other things aren't working the way they're supposed

1433
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: to do it. So it's just I.

1434
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Appreciate that shout out, man, Yeah, I mean back in

1435
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: my second I don't even know how many injuries. How

1436
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: many times I've been under the under the scope.

1437
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Did you see, Jordan, you had five surgeries in college?

1438
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my freshman, my red shirt year, my right laborm.

1439
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: That's when I called the twelve anchors. I broke my foot.

1440
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: I had a paranial ten and removed. I had to

1441
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: get a paranial tenant removed in my left ankle. So

1442
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: both feet had been under the microscope. Uh pro day.

1443
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: Right after the pro day, I had to fly to

1444
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Europe and I had a sports arn. You tore my

1445
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: PCL that never got fixed, never had to fix that.

1446
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: I want to say, that's one that you can kind

1447
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: of avoid. Like Troy palmlu I believe playing on the

1448
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: torn PCL, and you know, he was a He's an

1449
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: absolute monster. But the torn PCL, I think that's I

1450
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: believe that's it. Oh yeah. And then Liz Frank Liz

1451
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: frankfore I came to Tennessee. That was fucking brutal.

1452
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: The only surgeries I've had an ACL and a ACL reconstruction. Yeah,

1453
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: those are the only two. What they were the death

1454
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: of me. But sometimes you just got a bunch of

1455
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: body shots. I think a head shot, you know what,

1456
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but I had, dude, I got this thumb.

1457
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: I told you about this, right. We went to go

1458
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: see the doctor. Wing cut her thumb. Yeah, so Wing

1459
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 2: cuts her thumb and the doctor's like, yeah, it's gonna

1460
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: be fine. It's not down to the tenants. But what

1461
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: is that? And I'm like, oh, this old, this old

1462
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: fishhook thing right here is like, buddy, you got to

1463
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: get that fixed. Like that's gonna be an issue in

1464
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: your in your wrist, of enture elbow and shoulder, like

1465
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a big problem. So I'll get him

1466
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 2: to get a fixed right after the season, so I'll

1467
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: have my third surgery, fourth after my tonsils. But that's

1468
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: really it.

1469
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna have surgery on that.

1470
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1471
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: When you say after the season, like you're talking.

1472
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: About after this football season that you.

1473
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: And I are we don't play anymore, brother, a piece

1474
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: of you that.

1475
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: Still kind of feels not I don't feel like we're playing,

1476
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: but like my brain are. Our calendar is still revolves

1477
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: exactly the way.

1478
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, calendar is still always football.

1479
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: It's like I tell Taylor all the time, like, hey,

1480
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: when the fall is over, She's like, sweetie, we're in

1481
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: we're in wintertime. I was like, this is the fall,

1482
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: this is football season. So when the season's over then

1483
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: I can go do X Y and Z. Greg's talking

1484
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: about being the Bahamas. I'm thinking myself, Oh my god,

1485
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: that sounds nice.

1486
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to go with his wife. Happy birthday,

1487
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: missus Olsen.

1488
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 2: I see, I see that what we have highlight up here?

1489
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: Do we do we want to talk about that?

1490
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: I didn't really watch. I was kind of keeping up

1491
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: with the Titans Browns game. I thought, should hear? What

1492
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: do you have? Almost four hundred yards passing, three touchdowns

1493
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns? Yea, yeah, cam Ward had an unbelievable incomplete

1494
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: pass yes motion over the top five A big one

1495
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: though that we haven't touched on Packers beating the Bears.

1496
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like we've done so many takes every single

1497
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 2: week on ESPN, Buddy called that one, didn't we Yeah?

1498
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Right now the Bears are sitting in the seventh seed.

1499
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: They went from the one seed to the seventh seed

1500
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: in a matter of three and a half hours. Yeah,

1501
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: and that's just crazy.

1502
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 8: Do you guys think that game gives? Like people are

1503
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 8: asking are the Bears frauds?

1504
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: Now?

1505
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 8: I feel like that game kind of the Bears proved.

1506
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 8: Yeah they lost, but they prove that they're not frauds,

1507
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 8: like they can hang with.

1508
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 2: The Bears are not frauds.

1509
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna say the Bears are not frauds whatsoever. Like very again,

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01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: takeaways on defense, Caleb Williams has done a great job

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, wins some games. Yes, he missed

1513
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: a big throw yesterday and everybody's gonna break that play

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: down and everything else. Bears have had an awesome season,

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: but they are like statistically, you know, bottom toward the

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01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: bottom of the list in the majority of categories. Defensively,

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01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams no matter that, Like the dude is electric,

1518
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 1: he spins a football, dude has a rocket of an arm.

1519
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: But also it's statistically one of the worst, one of

1520
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: the least accurate quarterbacks. Yeah, he is the worst. I know, JA,

1521
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: I know JJ McCarthy. But again, when you're talking about inaccuracies,

1522
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is also there. Dude's been I saw stat

1523
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: yesterday during that game, watching that Packers Bears game. He's had.

1524
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: At this point of the game, they brought up the

1525
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: graphic thirty three unblocked pressures, sacked zero times.

1526
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: His ability to stay alis and his arm, his arm

1527
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: is unbelievable, unbelievable.

1528
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's just off target. But they've had a great year.

1529
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: It's just when you're watching it all unfold and you

1530
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: see the NFC as as a whole, it's like the

1531
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: NFC West with the Niners, Rams and Seattle then Packers.

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: They are playing some really good football that they just

1533
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: have a really good defense.

1534
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: If you look at the Bears from last year to

1535
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: this year, that team has gone immensely better under Ben Johnson.

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01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. They are a there, very good football team.

1537
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: So are the Bears frauds? No, in a sense that

1539
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: they're that I think they're a good ball club.

1540
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: The Bears are frauds if you thought that they were

1541
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: an elite team in the NFC, you.

1542
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're frauds. If you think if you say, hey,

1543
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: the Bears are contenders, I'm saying, well, then know the

1544
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: Bears are frauds.

1545
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. If you had them in your brain like

1546
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: this is a contender football team and you're so pissed

1547
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: about that game yesterday that you're just you're upset with

1548
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You're upset with that coach, you're upset with

1549
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: all things Chicago, Like that's more on you. Yeah, because

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: I think that they've done a great job winning some

1551
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: of these tight games where probably they could have had

1552
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: no business winning those games.

1553
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: No business. And dude, I mean the intangibles that Caleb

1554
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: william has are incredible, Like there's just things you cannot

1555
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 2: teach to just jump off the tape when you're watching

1556
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: him and he's like, like you said, thirty three unblocked pressure,

1557
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: zero sacks. Yeah, that is a stat that I would

1558
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: I would print out and frame if I'm Caleb Williams.

1559
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: He is.

1560
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's the most elusive quarterback in the NFL,

1561
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: Like no one can really get to him and his

1562
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: ability he does. He's been ready, like you know someone,

1563
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: and he's been inaccurate. But he's getting better and better.

1564
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: And I think next year we're going to Next year

1565
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: they get they tune up a couple of things. We'll

1566
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: see how free agency in the draft goes. But we

1567
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: can go into next year they can Oh, hey, the

1568
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: Bears are actual contenders now if Cab Williams makes this.

1569
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 8: Next step talking about his elusivity, I saw a stat watching.

1570
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 7: The games, so bad going.

1571
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams has like five or six plays over twenty

1572
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 8: miles an hour running. The rest of the NFL I

1573
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 8: think has like four.

1574
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1575
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's electric to watch. I enjoy watching him. It's

1576
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: just again, when you were talking about the Division Packers Bears,

1577
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is unbelievable. That defense is unbelievable. He got

1578
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, Watson gets going in their wide receiver group,

1579
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: like they're going to be a tough football team.

1580
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: The farther we get into the season and we've seen

1581
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: this all, this kind of thing's happening with the Packers

1582
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: and the conversation we just have with Greg, like the

1583
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: Packers are built perfectly for the playoffs. Yeah, they're built perfectly.

1584
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: Now they live on the end of the world of

1585
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: the NFC when it's like, brother, I think we walk

1586
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: into all these games in the playoffs and their spreads

1587
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: are like one and a half, two and a half,

1588
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be it's gonna be pick them's all

1589
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: the way through. Like, I am so excited to watch

1590
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 2: these playoffs coming up. But the Packers do what they

1591
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: built the little resume their ability to run the ball.

1592
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: Josh Jaksa had what eighty eight yards yesterday, cracked off

1593
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: a couple of fifteen ers here and there, but like physical,

1594
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 2: get after the down. The downside to them is their

1595
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: offensive line, but they have weapons on the perimeter. Their

1596
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: defense is high flying the go. Everwhere they got Rashad

1597
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 2: Gary and Rashan Gary Sorry, and Michael Parsons both guys,

1598
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 2: blue chip, five star guys coming out of high school.

1599
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: Obviously we're both first round draft picks. Like they are

1600
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: built for the playoffs. Bilt, I had to piss so

1601
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: bad close us out.

1602
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, do your thing. I was just gonna say, we're

1603
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: sitting in a nice pocket for some of the things

1604
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: we've talked about. We were on ESPN last week, Sam

1605
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: Bears are gonna make the playoffs, sneaky Jacksonville Jaguars bits

1606
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: day and it says said since September.

1607
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 5: Not so much for college though.

1608
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: You remember hip was it Penn State?

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, still I think I had, like, uh, who'd I have?

1611
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: Penn State? Maybe Texas? Clemson? Who knows my college football?

1612
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: No one gives a ship about college football boys, Not

1613
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: right here, not in this segment. Not now. I'm talking

1614
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: about some of my old takes right now, Chiefs ain't

1615
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, Broncos. I was talking in September like

1616
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: later in September eight. Patriot's gonna upset the Bills. Now

1617
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: Patriot's gonna win the division. We got that one sitting. Yeah,

1618
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: the sneaky Jacksonville Jaguars once again sending a good pocket. Oh,

1619
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna get figured out. But uh, I

1620
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: am excited. The NFL playoffs are gonna be electric. Speaking

1621
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: of playoffs, the college football playoff, the rankings, the tournament

1622
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: is set. We're gonna get into that with all of

1623
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 1: our college football talk coming. If you're watching on YouTube,

1624
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: that will drop. That'll be a separate episode show dropped.

1625
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: If you're listening to us on audio right now, you

1626
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: will hear an ad break and then we will get

1627
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: into our college football talk. Thank you guys for tuning in.

1628
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed Greg Olsen here in the Old

1629
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: War Stories. Continue to leave comments, Do not forget to

1630
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: leave comments. And again, just make sure you check your

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01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: phone or computer, whatever you're on wherever you're listening to

1632
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: us or watching us, and make sure you are subscribed

1633
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: to Bustle with the boys, We'll see you in a

1634
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: little bit. Welcome back to busting with the boys. We

1635
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: are now doing the college football recap. Gentlemen. Here, we

1636
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: are sitting here on the bus Monday morning after selection Sunday.

1637
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: The college football Playoff its lined out, the tournament is

1638
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: set in stone. There's chaos everywhere. I'm sure there's a

1639
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: lot of things we can talk about. Conference championships, the

1640
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: whole Alabama in situation, Miami in situation, Notre Dame out situation.

1641
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: There is a lot to break down. G G five teams.

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01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: Of the two two very.

1643
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: Worthy teams that one is dogs by seventeen and a half,

1644
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: the other one's dog by twenty one and a half.

1645
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: Definitely deserving of being in the playoffs. You give them

1646
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: a rind of a plus. Shout out the g vitulations

1647
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: to JMU and two Lane.

1648
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: But a lot of conversations to talk about. Where do

1649
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: we want to get started. We got the boys on

1650
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: the bus JP, Jack, Garrett Klump, Sherman Mitch All college

1651
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,839
Speaker 1: football siccos All, I'm sure have opinions on this weekend.

1652
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: We need to break it down right here.

1653
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: Let's whip through this these conference championships real quick. Do

1654
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: you want to start with the one we were at.

1655
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, getting to do the all.

1656
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: Cast, but you did, do you mind go ahead? This

1657
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: was one of the most fun things that I have

1658
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: ever been able to do with you. It was it

1659
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: was just awesome. Like g Jack, Clump, Like we flew

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: in the way we flew in on a private jet

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: and then this bus comes in and picks us up

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01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: and these three dudes shared one room together. We are

1663
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: such a backwards business, it's insane. But like you guys,

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01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: the three of you, I mean, we'll get in everything,

1665
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: but you guys were so extremely helpful the entire time,

1666
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: help them with the waters anything any Hey, you want

1667
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: my mind whole miss every break, you guys are coming up

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01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 2: to us helping us out. Clump, you yelling at the

1669
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: bus driver to stop, only to find out that he

1670
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: was actually taking us to the right spot. The entire time.

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: We'll get into all that, but like, dude, you the

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: three of you, the three of you, the energy, everything,

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: like it's so incredibly helpful in these spots. Because I'll

1674
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: speak for myself, but like you're living in this world

1675
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: of nerves and you're kind of always playing like how

1676
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: this thing's gonna go and you're playing things in your hand.

1677
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: You guys kept it like, kept it fun, like grabbing

1678
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: the coffees, like being as helpful as possible. It was

1679
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: massive cold coffee. And then getting getting the call from

1680
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 2: Pat McAfee in ESPN to say, hey, we want you guys,

1681
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: you two dumb idiots, We want you, along with the

1682
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: well spoken Osh Peyton Harry Douglas, to go and call

1683
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: this this all cast An SEC Championship, not on ESPN

1684
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: Plus or ESPN two, but the actual ESPN where every

1685
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 2: swinging dick in the world who has basic cable at

1686
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 2: least can thumb through their channels and it'll pop up

1687
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: where you will see our faces.

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: Dude.

1689
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it truly was incredible. It's it's surreal. It's like

1691
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 1: I had put up a post like I wish I

1692
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: could say this was a dream come true, but I'll

1693
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: be honest, Like when we started busting with the boys

1694
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: and everything else, like doing something like this has just

1695
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: never even been a thought in my brain right, And

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01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 1: getting to do it and getting text for my brothers

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: and dad and family members and people in my close

1698
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: circle and just Wyat, my youngest brother just being like like,

1699
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: what the fuck you're You're going to be doing it

1700
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: all cast on ESPN. That's insane, insane. Yeah, it's it, dude.

1701
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: It is surreal, man, and we're on the sideline. It's me, you,

1702
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: Josh Paid, Harry Douglas getting to sit there and shop

1703
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: it up with guys throughout the throughout the game, Sean, Alexander, Brandon, Spikes, Quavo,

1704
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Walker. Just being in that being in that stadium

1705
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: for Championship Saturday, Bama versus Georgia, it's just surreal. And

1706
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 1: it's like, I never want to I never want us

1707
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: to take these moments for granted, because we are not

1708
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: doing we are not even in these moments without the

1709
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: support of everybody that tunes in, everybody that's watched and

1710
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: followed from day one. The support and love was awesome

1711
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: after like getting to your phone and seeing all the messages,

1712
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: seeing all the mentions on social media. But we are

1713
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: not doing that unless we have the support of everybody

1714
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: out there. The Tier One's absolutely everybody that's helped hype

1715
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: us up along the way, and we've like stumbled forward

1716
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: and ended up on ESPN doing an all cast for

1717
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: the sec championship. Yeah, and it's just really cool. We're

1718
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: not here, Like, we're not here without you guys, grinding

1719
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: every week without all the fans leaving comments all the time.

1720
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: Just how we've been propped up to be on Get

1721
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: Up this year and do the all cast and just

1722
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: everything we've gotten to do crossing paths with Josh pat

1723
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: this year has been unbelievable.

1724
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a crazy perfect alignment.

1725
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's dude, I'm thankful. It's like gratitude. I

1726
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: was very nervous. The Jackie got the video of me

1727
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: before the game where I'm like walking, I'm like talking

1728
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: out loud. Like my prep this week has felt like

1729
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to play in a game. My feeling

1730
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 1: at the hotel when we're having our dinner that was

1731
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: super important on Friday, and I'm kind of thinking, man,

1732
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: I want to get to my room. I want to

1733
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: be able to think about these things before we do

1734
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: Josh Bate's live show and then get back and be like, Okay,

1735
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: I want to put on some more prep so I

1736
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: can set myself up for tomorrow morning when we're sitting

1737
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: down there having coffee and talking shop. Some of the

1738
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: things going on my head. I got the paper sitting

1739
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: right there trying to still study. I have no clue

1740
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. And I had those that excitement

1741
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: and those nerves kind of mixed together at the same

1742
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 1: time going onto that field then having the little botch

1743
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: dry run there that it was unbelievable. All the fans

1744
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: we got to meet there, like all the dogs, barking,

1745
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: guys like pull out my phone and take videos and

1746
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: they're all performing for the video, taking selfies with everybody.

1747
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: It was unbelieve Man, Dude walking.

1748
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: On the field in Atlanta at the SEC Championship and

1749
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: liked equipment staff is there, Coaches are starting to walk

1750
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 2: through and people just like coming up to us being

1751
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 2: like yo, I love your shit, like and you're just like, oh,

1752
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: for real, like that that tied at number seven, lucky

1753
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: for uh for Georgia. He's like warming up, like we're

1754
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: kind of standing there that hasn't started, Like this is

1755
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: like the warmst before they go back in and come

1756
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: back out. And he takes a moment out of his

1757
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: warm up as I'm like turning a corner and he's like, bro,

1758
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,480
Speaker 2: love watching your show, and I'm just like it's insane

1759
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: that people it's always mind blowing that people watch.

1760
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: And he had a big catch on that pump screen.

1761
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and yeah, you were getting all hyped about

1762
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: that screaming in the microphone. Dude, it was amazing, It

1763
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: was It was so funny. After hearing Will's voice, I'm thinking,

1764
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: this motherfucker really was just screaming the whole time. And

1765
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: I during the game too. I didn't realize that, Like,

1766
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm talking the way I am right

1767
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 2: now and Will is we are the big one here.

1768
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: It's second and seven, and I'm thinking, can I had

1769
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 2: never crossed my brain that that that was in until

1770
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: Josh brought it up on the flight. Oh, this dude

1771
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 2: really was screaming the whole time, which is just.

1772
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: Like Charles texting me laughing. She's like, Taylor sounded completely

1773
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 1: normal and you're just yelling at the a gape.

1774
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: How weird is that when you're uh, when you're like

1775
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 2: talking to a game, you can hear the crowd getting

1776
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: wound up, and you obviously feel like, oh, I gotta

1777
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: scream into this microphone, when really that's what the microphone

1778
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: is for your voice.

1779
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: It's like a couple of things one. It's very loud

1780
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: in those years.

1781
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Yes, oh it's.

1782
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: Very like you can't hear anything. You can feel the

1783
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: crowd and you can hear all the noise coming in

1784
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: from everybody's microphone, so you feel like you've got to

1785
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: be a little bit louder. But also just being immersed

1786
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: in the game and like talking to the games, like

1787
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I was like, I felt like just

1788
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: a linebacker trying to call that football. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1789
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: somebody makes a pop or a big hit or makes

1790
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: a play when Bray Hubbard made a play on that

1791
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: first series, just getting to say that my favorite terms

1792
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: like pissing vinegar, a gap, blood flown below the pill.

1793
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 2: We start talking about the team's porn, Like start talking

1794
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: about the all white team, like that kid you know

1795
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: when he gets drafted. We know a team he's going

1796
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: on will come off, and we're kind of smiling, giggling

1797
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: ourselves and all like yeah a tier ones are laughing

1798
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: at an inside joke.

1799
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 8: When you said the special team's porn part like you

1800
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 8: like died off at the point, because you know if

1801
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 8: you were.

1802
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: And in my head before I said special teams poor it,

1803
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, do I say porn. Yeah, on this broadcast.

1804
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: You just say, hey, what just happened on that play

1805
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: needs to be age verified if you're going on a

1806
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: website like that is. Dude, it was awesome, It really was,

1807
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: And I'm like excited, But there's a piece of me

1808
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: that you know, when you do something one time, it's

1809
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: like the next time you do it, like that, all

1810
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 2: the things that kind of caught you off guard, like

1811
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: oh shit, Like I know I knew walking into it

1812
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: that there's four of us talking about a football game

1813
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: that all have football knowledge, Like the lift is not

1814
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: as big as you think it's going to be. So

1815
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 2: like it's not like one guy's calling the game and

1816
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: you're giving all the color on it, like Pete's calling

1817
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 2: the game. But also all four of us are going

1818
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 2: to talk about what we've seen, so you're talking like

1819
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: not as much after every single play. So I wasn't nervous.

1820
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 2: I was more excited, like ma'am, I like it's like

1821
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: high school football excited. And we go to do the

1822
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: dry run and Caitlin's in our ears. She's like, Hey,

1823
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen is is we're gonna go We're gonna

1824
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: do the dry run and then a few minutes later

1825
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna start the broadcast. But let's just make everybod

1826
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 2: feel comfortable. We're gonna gonna run you through what we're

1827
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 2: gonna play on the screen. You can do that, and

1828
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: so for me going.

1829
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: For more context too for everybody watching and listening. The

1830
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: dry run, we were doing it ten minutes before we

1831
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: went live. Yeah, ten we had the monitors out there.

1832
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a practice run. It's gonna be like

1833
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: we're going to talking about our key players. We're gonna

1834
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: run all the monitor. You guys talked through your twenty

1835
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: five seconds.

1836
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: Each, so we uh so, first off was like Harry

1837
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 2: doug let's talk about zachar Yah Branch, which played out

1838
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: perfectly because he really was a massive piece of George's

1839
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: game plan. And then Josh Pak goes on Tim Keenan.

1840
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 2: Then my whole thing was about the offensive lines and

1841
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: the different type of offense that they're going to run. And

1842
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: then Will, but Will went before me, so flip that Will,

1843
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Gunastoka, and then I was

1844
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: the last one to go about the two offensive lines

1845
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: and how they're gonna win the game. Josh goes smacks

1846
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: the shit out of it, like true Josh paid for

1847
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: my I've never heard that man say or stutter over

1848
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: and he's he's a true pro, Harry Douglas. He's in

1849
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: his RG three bag doing the fun stuff. Then Will

1850
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: starts to go and I'm like, I'm so excited.

1851
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Gunner Stockton is the most important player in

1852
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: this game. And I talk about this is a guy

1853
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 1: that's been in the Heisman conversation all season long. He

1854
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: can beat you with his arms, he can beat you

1855
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: with his legs, and you look at what Alabama did

1856
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: to him last time. And I stopped and I paused,

1857
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: and I stared. I tried finding the words. Too many

1858
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: words were coming through my head. I couldn't get it together.

1859
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out. And I just had this

1860
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: long pause to probably last it felt like an hour,

1861
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: but it was about four seconds. And then I just

1862
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: look up to the crowd and I just go practice run,

1863
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: practice run.

1864
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: And at that moment, right there, dude, and then Taylor

1865
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: shitting myself. All three guys like after you went, Josh

1866
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: just started to like go into the whole thing, and

1867
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: Kaitling gets over, goes Hey Taylor hasn't done his thing yet.

1868
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: He's like, and then they's like running back. So after

1869
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: you have your thing, I know, like it's fun to

1870
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: like laugh at you or me when we like a

1871
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: brain fart, but like when you have the brain fart,

1872
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: my brain's like your.

1873
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: Next buddy, And she's like, Josh, you got to get

1874
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: back to Taylor and I like break down.

1875
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: Oh it was our practice run.

1876
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: There's no other opportunities after that, Like we didn't go

1877
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: back there, let's start from the top, none of that.

1878
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: So we're just kind of sitting there, sitting in it.

1879
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be straight, We're gonna be good. Fortunately it

1880
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: worked out because I was I was like kind of

1881
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: sitting there. I was like, man, I'm sure people like this.

1882
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to hit this is Brad. Is

1883
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: it gonna happen again? I'm thinking, is my brain gonna

1884
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: happen again? Buddy, you got this. She's own the moment. YadA,

1885
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. Fortunately it all worked. Dude.

1886
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: You crushed it at the beginning of it, and then

1887
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: I think it, Like my personal feelings about it was

1888
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: like it took like the first half of the first

1889
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: quarter for us all to kind of settle in. I

1890
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 2: think after every play, all three of us, Oh, you,

1891
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: Me and Harry were all kind of trying to find

1892
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: a place to say something like we're like, you know,

1893
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,440
Speaker 2: trying to take the show on as if we're doing ourselves.

1894
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: And then, you know, right after the first quarter, and

1895
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was very smooth sailing from then on,

1896
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 2: especially in the second half. Yeah, I felt like we

1897
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: all kind of got into a lane where it's like,

1898
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: you see something happening, we kind of feel each other's

1899
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: bi lingus that There's a couple of times I'd tap you,

1900
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: I'd be like kind of like, hey, I'm gonna I

1901
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: have something to say. So Josh were finishing, I would

1902
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: go Harry and I would do the same thing.

1903
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 6: It was.

1904
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: It was sick, dude. And even when the game kind

1905
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: of was out of reach, and at halftime, Harry and

1906
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 2: a couple of pop like professionals were like, we gotta

1907
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: really hope that Alabama scores otherwise this is gonna be

1908
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: is gonna be tough to go through, Like we got

1909
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 2: to that like last you know, four or five minutes

1910
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: of the game, and to be honest, like Podcast Mo

1911
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: kind of just hitd over for us, and I felt

1912
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: like that was like the most comfortably war with sitting

1913
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: in there. Let's have fun about it.

1914
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: You won a great game just for the view viewers,

1915
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: people tuning in. We got a close game in the

1916
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: SEC Championship. But yeah, the first quarter. I felt solid

1917
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: in the first core because it's just three and out,

1918
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: so there's big plays happening defensively, do I talk about

1919
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: the olda gap, talk about old Bray Hubbard, Uh, c

1920
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: J Allen the linebacker? Where else? I remember when I

1921
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: was hyping up CJ Allen and was and it wasn't

1922
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: even CJ Allen. Is my apologies? Actually hand up, that

1923
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: was not CJ Allen. That was so and so number zero.

1924
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: That might happen a few times.

1925
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: This proadcasting really good, But dude, I mean you get

1926
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 2: on the bus after Clump's yelling at the driver again

1927
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: and we're sitting there like I'm going, we can.

1928
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Get into the driver stuff. Yeah, we could do it.

1929
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,600
Speaker 1: Hit all the college football stuff. We can save the

1930
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,480
Speaker 1: driver the lure with Clump.

1931
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: For the true But we're sitting there after the broadcast

1932
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: and you go through, obviously as all of us do

1933
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: after our game and you kind of like you hit

1934
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 2: your mentions, see what's going on, And it seemed like

1935
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: for the most part, other than a couple of one

1936
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: or two's, it's like overwhelmingly positive reviews, and it's just like, man,

1937
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: it felt good during you had fun doing and then

1938
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 2: the person who it's four seem receptive to it, like

1939
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: couldn't have asked for a better situation, did you guys?

1940
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: How'd you guys enjoy I guess we can. We can

1941
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: save that part too for the I know, we got

1942
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:48,959
Speaker 1: a college.

1943
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 2: Football we got a college football break, and we got.

1944
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: To college before we do.

1945
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 6: I this isn't like new news for us, but every

1946
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 6: place we go, the strength staff and like the equipment

1947
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 6: staff specifically always shows out so big for the boys.

1948
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 9: Argia, guys, let us throw the ball around for the game.

1949
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: I was kind of nervous asking about a ball too.

1950
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 6: I know, and they you know, they're always like nahn,

1951
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 6: but they were. They were very gracious.

1952
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 9: They let us throw.

1953
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 6: They were cool after the game, wells dapping up all

1954
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 6: of them. I'm I just had an idea we can

1955
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 6: kind of linger on it, think about it, but maybe

1956
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 6: for next season through either the spring fall or the

1957
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 6: whole year. I think we need to dedicate an award

1958
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 6: to the best best staff in terms of just for

1959
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 6: the vipes, Yeah, for the equipment staff. Maybe like get

1960
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 6: a T shirt made with them specifically for them because

1961
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 6: they're listening.

1962
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 9: There's guys that they're listening. And it'd be a fun

1963
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 9: thing where each school we go to meet with the

1964
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 9: equipment staff and they show out.

1965
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 6: Not saying they need to roll out right carpets, but

1966
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 6: it'd be something cool for these guys who clearly are

1967
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 6: fan base to kind of like have something to throw the.

1968
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: Most Yeah, the most underappreciated group, giving them doing something

1969
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: that props.

1970
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: But bro truly the heart and soul of every single team.

1971
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,839
Speaker 2: Like these guys. Every single day they're picking up dirty laundry,

1972
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: sway shit, cleaning it off and making sure everyone's lost

1973
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 2: is ready the next day. They're the first ones in

1974
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: the building when they go for a game, to the

1975
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: last ones to come out. They're usually driving back. Now

1976
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: all of them are going on the plane with the

1977
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: team and they just fucking love it. Like Georgia, Alabama

1978
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 2: equipment Staff's guarantee they will die for their team, Indiana,

1979
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: Ohio State and down all through these conference championships. They

1980
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: are every moment of the day talking about what could

1981
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: happen and that, and they have their own little groups

1982
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 2: they go out together, have their softball games and all

1983
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 2: that stuff like it is the heart and soul of

1984
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: every single team, every single team.

1985
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 6: And Georgia players were iced out the equipment staff.

1986
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, one kid, one kid doing the broadcast, they score,

1987
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: doesn't dap me up by I guys got dapped up

1988
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: by an EQ got ball boy over here. We're feeling

1989
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: good about.

1990
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: It again before we dive into college football. Just you, guys, don't.

1991
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: On the broadcast, they showed the the New Year's Eve six,

1992
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the New Year's Eve six, the pick six Nebraska Georgia.

1993
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: So after the game, when the competiti is about to

1994
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 1: come up, they're about to do the ceremony, Coach Bobo

1995
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: the OC comes up to me. He goes, will I'm

1996
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm coach Boba on the OC with Georgia. He put

1997
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: both of his hands on my shoulders and he goes,

1998
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: do you remember your interception in the Capitol Wombo Bowl?

1999
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: And I go, brother, I was just getting to talk

2000
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: about it on the broadcast. Yes, I remember that that

2001
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:17,879
Speaker 1: interception he breaks down.

2002
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: That whole fuck him yeah, dude. In this situation number three,

2003
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: I was like, here's your problem.

2004
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: It was one hundred percent on the uh the x

2005
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: crack screen for the running back, and he goes, yeah,

2006
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: but we got you on the counter with old Gurley

2007
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: there in the second half. I say, yeah, yeah he did.

2008
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: That's off to you, but I thought that was so

2009
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: sick they coach Bobo. I was like, oh, man, you

2010
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: were on that staff back then, dude.

2011
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Just a little side note that at halftime, some younger kid,

2012
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 2: probably you know, thirteen, fourteen fifteen, walks up to me

2013
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 2: kind of nervous and I'm like, yo, what's up, dude,

2014
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: how you doing? And he's like, hey, I'm a I

2015
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it's Marty or what his first name was,

2016
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 2: but he's like, I'm a coach Smart's son. I was like,

2017
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart and he's like yes, He's like, I love

2018
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 2: your guys show. I love watching every single look on

2019
01:30:58,640 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: my bro, thank you.

2020
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: We gotta get Kirby on. If we can't get Kirby,

2021
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: we gotta get him on.

2022
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: We gotta get a son on.

2023
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get his son on. Yeh, Kirby devil.

2024
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: That's what bustle the Boy should turn into. Don't get

2025
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: the coaches on, get the coach's kids on.

2026
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, coach Smart's kid, Yeah, Kiffin's kid next. Yeah.

2027
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: But the game, the game itself obviously Georgia. Massive blow

2028
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: up by Georgia. That I mean, that was that was

2029
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: a great game. You kind of walk into that game

2030
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: and Georgia was favored, but you start to read into

2031
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: all the things about how Kirby Smart's record versus top

2032
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: ten teams is like amazing, and the only those few

2033
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: losses that sit there are all Alabama and he's one

2034
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 2: and seven and can you get the can he get

2035
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 2: the monkey off of his back? Or what you kept

2036
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,759
Speaker 2: calling him? The grim Reaper? Alabama and the Grim Reaper?

2037
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah to Georgia, I.

2038
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: Mean Georgia fans were betting on Bama to win the game. Yeah,

2039
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: I hey, who would you take? Who'd you take on? Fans?

2040
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Or they'd be like, I took I took Bama. Beg, Oh,

2041
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you're not even bigging. He's like, listen, if it takes

2042
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: me to lose money to try to try and defeat

2043
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: this monster, like, then that's what I'm gonna have to do.

2044
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just Georgia came out the way

2045
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 2: they came out in the second half of their first game.

2046
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 2: A lot of man they pressed them. They they brought

2047
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 2: the fight to Alabama and that's the way they won

2048
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 2: the game. I mean Ty Simpson, Friend of the Future,

2049
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Front of the show, like the kids sitting there right

2050
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 2: before the game, dapping us both up. He's doing the

2051
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: joke about keeping it high and tie like, dude, he

2052
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 2: was awesome about it. Uncharacteristically bad game for him. I mean,

2053
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: he was like under fifty percent. I think he was

2054
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 2: even under like forty five percent completion percentage at the

2055
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: end of it all. But Georgia just took a hold

2056
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: of that thing from the get go and just ran

2057
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 2: through it.

2058
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Here.

2059
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: I love to know, like where your mind was during

2060
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: this game, because at the end of the day, like,

2061
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 2: do conference championships really matter? Like we're really trying to

2062
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 2: win a national checks.

2063
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Ready to get into Yeah, you know, people tune and

2064
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: then they want to hear this college football breakdown. There's

2065
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 1: a lot to be said.

2066
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 10: No, no, obviously an unfortunate outcome for the Tide, but

2067
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 10: to be there for a busting trip you guys already

2068
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 10: said it was amazing. I am officially zero and too

2069
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 10: when vlogging Bama games. Oh so we got to keep

2070
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 10: that in mind looking forward. We'll make some business decisions

2071
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 10: when that gets presented next. But it was so fun,

2072
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 10: like we when we did that lap on the field before,

2073
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 10: uh you asked me, you were like, is this not

2074
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 10: sick for you? And I was like, yeah, I mean

2075
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 10: this is insane, Like whenever you get to watch your

2076
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 10: ball club like that close, it's just it's just an

2077
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 10: awesome experience. So appreciate that.

2078
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.

2079
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 10: When that block punt happened, it was like, fuck, bro,

2080
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 10: I know how this goes.

2081
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 2: At punparked the entire thing.

2082
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Bro eighty three yeah, untouched.

2083
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 10: So that was that was brutal. I immediately hit the

2084
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 10: group channels like that's only seven. They're getting a little

2085
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 10: that I know interception right, Yeah, that was tough. Hey,

2086
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 10: sure to stat sheet and uh, go ahead.

2087
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Can you look up number eighty three while Garrett finishes this,

2088
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: because I want to shout that kid out.

2089
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 2: Bro, yeah Kury smartness posting press Confort shout at him out.

2090
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 5: Good.

2091
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't even on a production sheet.

2092
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 9: You.

2093
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 10: Uh, what's crazy is the person that plays that position

2094
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 10: to pick that block up. Lt Overton out So new kid,

2095
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:15,440
Speaker 10: new assignment. Yeah, no excuses, kid got back there untouched.

2096
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 10: But yeah, when you allow a team like Georgia when

2097
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 10: they were when they're peaking, to start with the ball

2098
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 10: on your side of the field every time they touch

2099
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 10: the ball, you're gonna have a long day.

2100
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Like watching that game, you sit there and

2101
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: you're like, you watch how September, October November kind of

2102
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 2: unfolded for Georgia where they just kind of sat in

2103
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: the shadows for a while, not really covering a whole lot.

2104
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 2: They're down at half more times than not, and they

2105
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: just progressively gather their momentum. They keep moving forward and

2106
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 2: they get better and better. It's like they might be

2107
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: walking into this the scariest team in all the playoffs

2108
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:51,959
Speaker 2: right now, especially what happened in the Big Ten Championship.

2109
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 10: They started the season injured and are now.

2110
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Healthy, right and you see six guys out for that game.

2111
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 10: What's happening for us started healthy? Now it's kind of dwindling.

2112
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 10: But I mean you said it like does the game matter? Like, yeah,

2113
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 10: I think it matters a lot.

2114
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: We didn't move that was bizarre, man.

2115
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: I think it's that that was kind of a we

2116
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 2: kind of expected go that way.

2117
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but that I think it's still I

2118
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 1: do think I do think this.

2119
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 10: I think that if you win your conference championship game,

2120
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 10: you should be rewarded above a team who lost theirs.

2121
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 10: So I do think Indiana should be one, Georgia should

2122
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 10: be two, yeah, and then Ohio State three.

2123
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that.

2124
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 10: You know, you should be rewarded for winning your at

2125
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 10: that point.

2126
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 2: Though, Like, really, when it comes to one, two, three, four,

2127
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 2: as long as you're one through four, it doesn't matter

2128
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 2: because by the time you get to the games we're

2129
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: going to play, they're neutral sites and it's really about

2130
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 2: what color jurory you're wearing.

2131
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 10: And you have three and a half weeks regardless.

2132
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So like to me, it's like one is

2133
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 2: no different than four other than we get to wear

2134
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 2: our main color, you know, at the end of the day.

2135
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with that. I think Georgia probably

2136
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 2: should have jumped up to two and then Aha st

2137
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: eight to three. I don't think we need to go

2138
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 2: through Let's let's hit the conference championship games real quick.

2139
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 2: And then we can get into this because this is

2140
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: a whole bag of like you look at it can

2141
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 2: be very quick. Like the doomsday scenario that we wanted

2142
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 2: that we kind of wanted for the chaos to take place,

2143
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,879
Speaker 2: took place right Like Duke goes over time with Virginia.

2144
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: They end up winning that game. That's incredible. I saw an.

2145
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Amazing coach watching the kids trying the coach and the

2146
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: kids trying to break down. We're a playoff team, just

2147
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: like I saw.

2148
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: I saw a Shirm's post about AC commercial but the

2149
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Bobbleheads it's like winner goes to the playoffs and I

2150
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 2: was like, yep, should be a full one.

2151
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 6: Yep.

2152
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking myself, I understand what they're trying to do,

2153
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 2: Like you're trying to make sure that you're the acc

2154
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 2: as representative and you're going to playoffs. There was never

2155
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 2: if you're Duke and you're a fan of Duke and

2156
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: you're watching this show and you're like, fight for Duke, buddy,

2157
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 2: there was never a chance that you guys were going

2158
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: to make it in the playoffs. Never, nothing could taken place.

2159
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: But listen, that was awesome to see because you love

2160
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: the chaos and we'll get in the playoff bracket in

2161
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 2: a second. And it's like if you want to change,

2162
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 2: these types of things need to happen for to change.

2163
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted Duke to win, so like you know,

2164
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 1: you knew I wanted Duke to win. So two G

2165
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: five went to the college football playoffs to like punish

2166
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 1: our overall outlook on how the playoff gets set.

2167
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 2: Up, because you see it once again our bikedon championship

2168
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 2: Indiana Ohio State. I think we were all blindsided by that,

2169
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 2: that victory by Indiana. We have to Kurt Signetti is

2170
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 2: the best coaching college football dude.

2171
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: What Signetti has done at Indiana. And look I've said,

2172
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, Nebraska played him last year, so I was

2173
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: nasty about him during that week and then you know,

2174
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: kind of trolled them. But what Kurt Signetti has done

2175
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: at Indiana. They were three and nine before he came

2176
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: to town. This is the first time ever they've had

2177
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 1: back to back double digit win seasons, the first time

2178
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,639
Speaker 1: they've won a conference championship since nineteen forty five.

2179
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean program in college football history.

2180
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 8: They were were. Now Northwestern has past them, but like

2181
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 8: that Northwestern, Yeah, because of big Netti.

2182
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 1: It is incredible what Indiana has done.

2183
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 2: And k Kurt Signetti, dude, that's fucking smirky head walking

2184
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: off the fields.

2185
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 10: His post game was Mike Dropworthy about being humbled. It's

2186
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 10: like three and a half weeks.

2187
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude.

2188
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: And I saw a graphic that was talking about the

2189
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 2: different and talent that both teams had going to this game,

2190
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,759
Speaker 2: like this is the biggest separation of town we eversus.

2191
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 2: Like I think I had sixty seven blue chip guys,

2192
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 2: eleven five stars and the rest four stars. Indiana had

2193
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: zero five stars and seven four stars on their team.

2194
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 2: And that team with no five stars and seven four

2195
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 2: stars beat sixty seven blue chip players. I mean, dude,

2196
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: but the.

2197
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: Way Indiana has played this year, it's not to give

2198
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 1: that team and all those kids credit. It's like each

2199
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: category Indiana was ranked above them statistically, and a lot

2200
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,759
Speaker 1: of these categories going into the game, with the schedule

2201
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State, it's kind of had all year. So as

2202
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: we were getting closer to the game, I'm like, man,

2203
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: I remember we were talking to the car I'm like,

2204
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: I feel like nobody's really been considering Indiana beating Ohia State.

2205
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Dude, I was saying.

2206
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 1: The line was at four and a half, and it's like,

2207
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen, Like this defense is for real.

2208
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: They get to prove it against an offense like Oha State,

2209
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 1: and they went out and did it.

2210
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 10: I expected more points.

2211
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 2: I kind of did too. I expected more points about

2212
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 2: Hoo State for sure. I thought I didn't know what

2213
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Indiana really was. What this tells me about anything is

2214
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: like Yo, Oregon, they're a bit of a beast too,

2215
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have enough time to kind of sit

2216
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 2: their away to get a little tuned up with GMU,

2217
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 2: so I don't have to have that little by a

2218
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 2: week that kind of seemed like got to hurt him

2219
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: last year. And it's like it's hard to beat a

2220
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 2: team twice. They could see each other again. It's dude,

2221
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome.

2222
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So Indiana wins. And by the way, Fernando

2223
01:39:55,439 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: Mendoza's post game buddy, I threw out that tweet Fernando

2224
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Mendoza's Kirk Cousins on cocaine like.

2225
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: The dude das it looks similar.

2226
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: The dude just can't miss on a mic any type pops.

2227
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean Charles sitting there. She starts laughing because it's

2228
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: like her first time seeing seeing Fernanda Mendoza speak on

2229
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: a mic, and I am just grinning ear to ear,

2230
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: like this is exactly what I wanted him talking about

2231
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 1: super glue in the team.

2232
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: And wrapping his hands around the reporter's mike to do

2233
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 2: the super glow, his movements, everything.

2234
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 10: Between his post game and then Duke's coach postgame, who

2235
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 10: was more cringe.

2236
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Part of me was like just I loved Fernando.

2237
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 2: People people. I saw a lot of tweet people hating

2238
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 2: on Fernando. I personally love it.

2239
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 7: I hate I didn't.

2240
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,639
Speaker 8: I obviously hated it because like we lost, but it's

2241
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 8: like you can't you can't knock the love for the

2242
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 8: game and.

2243
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: The passion that he has, Like that is him, Like

2244
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: that's his authenticity. Like the dude coach. You know, he's

2245
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: sitting there lying through his teeth talk about we deserve

2246
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs.

2247
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sat there with his with his team and

2248
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 2: he's like I gotta say that, Yeah, I guess we'll

2249
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: go in.

2250
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: Let me go fight seven win regular season team. We

2251
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: lost to five good teams. Dude, Fernando was real, like

2252
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: you got for Nanda Mendozo. That's what I loved, a.

2253
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: Beating the number one team in the country being undefeated.

2254
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 6: Also, Nashville Pod Bust with the Boys got a shout

2255
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 6: out Nashville guy Charlie Becker on Indiana the receiver. Yeah

2256
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 6: he went to father Ryan Na Malone's claiming that they

2257
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 6: were best friends.

2258
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, but that kid was going off.

2259
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go, dude, it's crazy these kids. Watch man.

2260
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: It just goes back to us walking around the sideline

2261
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 2: of the dude's like dapping us up, loving the show.

2262
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: By Simpson being all about it.

2263
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 1: In the Big twelve Championship, by you got blown out.

2264
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: I think it was.

2265
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 2: I think we all expected and points did that. Yeah,

2266
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you knew it was over when Jacob Rodriguez

2267
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 2: was on college game Day and it was two hundred

2268
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars from Hit the crossb after Diego Pavia

2269
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 2: did not a couple of weeks ago, and he binks

2270
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: that thing no problem, had a swag and a walk

2271
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 2: about him with a mustache in the neck. The neck

2272
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: is show crazy.

2273
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: On the kid arms, the quads, the entire build for

2274
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: that linebacker. I just want to. I just want to

2275
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: get my hands on it. Yeah, Jacob, I just get

2276
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: my hand. If you can do second, just back, buddy.

2277
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm fired up for.

2278
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 2: If you could go to the combine and pretend to

2279
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 2: be like a medical physician, just to put your hands

2280
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 2: on him, feel the quads a little bit, walk in

2281
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 2: and got a mask on. I don't look at this kid, Dude,

2282
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: he's got a two head. He didn't get a four.

2283
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: That's how full how much full hair he has?

2284
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I'm just gonna daw feel your quads for

2285
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: a second. Make sure you don't have any strains.

2286
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Look at the jersey the trap movement there, dude, that

2287
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 2: guy's never gonna stare in his life. But he got

2288
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: a twenty twelve will contin neck. Yeah, he's got his

2289
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 2: neck is bigger than his head. This kid is fucking unbelievable.

2290
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 5: Man.

2291
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: It's a good looking young man.

2292
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 2: Good looking young man. Married boy too, married man, Where

2293
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: do you come from? Virginia?

2294
01:42:59,520 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 7: Look at that?

2295
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

2296
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 7: His wife is a badass too. She's a black Hawk

2297
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 7: black Hawk helicopter pilot.

2298
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: Of course she is.

2299
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,759
Speaker 7: Of course, Yeah, it's so badass.

2300
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have had it any other way. Match this kid.

2301
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 2: We gotta get him on the pod.

2302
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: That's where Jacob Rodriguez deserves.

2303
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean imagine him going back when his

2304
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 2: twenty year football career is over, goes back to Texas

2305
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 2: Tech and just runs that show. Yeah, God bless look

2306
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 2: at him.

2307
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: So what were you guys' thoughts on the college football Playoff?

2308
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: What were you guys just thoughts on the College Football Playoff?

2309
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 5: Like the rankings and stuff.

2310
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like how it worked out, the chaos that ensued. Again,

2311
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I was I was fired up that Duke one because

2312
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: it's almost like I don't believe we all. It's like

2313
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: the G five teams getting in. It sucks. I went

2314
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: to twelve best teams, but it's almost like to punish

2315
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: us for this system that we have. I think with them.

2316
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 4: Getting in, I don't really understand why Notre Dame was

2317
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 4: so puzzled why they weren't.

2318
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: In, because they don't know the rules. And if I'm

2319
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: a Notre Dame fan and I wasn't being educated by

2320
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Josh paidon being in this world as much as we

2321
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 2: are this year, I would have the same exact view. Yeah,

2322
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: but they just don't know that this is how it

2323
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 2: happen that this is how it goes.

2324
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 4: Because I'm watching it and everybody's complaining, I'm just like, well, no,

2325
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 4: this is there's two G five teams and y'all lost

2326
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 4: to Miami.

2327
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame. Notre Dame got screwed.

2328
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 7: Bro I saw there because of the G five's because a.

2329
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 2: Few different angles, Miami should be in over Notre Dame.

2330
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 2: That's it's clear. The only argument to that is who

2331
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 2: do you believe is a better team right now, Notre

2332
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 2: Dame or Miami. And they answer to that question is

2333
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 2: most likely for everybody going to be Notre Dame. But

2334
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 2: other than that, if you put schedule up against schedule,

2335
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 2: common opponent wins versus common to put it wins head

2336
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 2: to heads, it's like it's all in Miami's favor and

2337
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 2: that's just the reality. The they're more deserving than Notre

2338
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 2: Dame to be in the game.

2339
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 7: I saw it.

2340
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 8: I saw a tweet and I don't know if you

2341
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 8: retweeted or something, but like, I think after this year,

2342
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,839
Speaker 8: it's like written in the contract or the College Football playoff.

2343
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that mo ou to where if they're ranked in

2344
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: the top twelve going into the regular season, next year

2345
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: they're an automatic bid.

2346
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 7: I don't think I thought it was at the end

2347
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 7: of the season, not going into the season.

2348
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 2: It's got to be at the end. Yeah, I thought

2349
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: the start, they start off at eleven, they go one

2350
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 2: and eleven, They're like, we gotta put them in though. Yeah,

2351
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 2: g five now Yeah.

2352
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 8: This is from Ross Dellinger and new Zy Wrinkle from

2353
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 8: Bovaqua whatever as a part of an MoU signed last spring.

2354
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,560
Speaker 8: Notre Dame is a shure a CFB perth if it

2355
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 8: is ranked in the top twelve starting next year. The

2356
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 8: situation unfolds next year, the final at large team Miami

2357
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 8: would have gotten bumped for number eleven Notre.

2358
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 2: Dames, which is there would be a legitimate argument from

2359
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 2: Miami fans.

2360
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 8: And be like what what The fact that they have

2361
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 8: a special rule because they're not in a conference is

2362
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 8: the most insane thing. And then I think it's also

2363
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 8: bitch made that they're not playing in a bowl game.

2364
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I can. I can understand

2365
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: everybody's angle. The competitor. It's like, yeah, it kind of

2366
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: sucks that they're taking their ball and going home. But

2367
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: if you're also Notre Dame on the highest viewpoint, I

2368
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 1: would be livid that we got left out of the

2369
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: college football playoff. I'd be living livid because you look,

2370
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: that's why I had the tweet yesterday. It was insane

2371
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: to hear Hunter on behalf of the committee talk about

2372
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: how we watched that game yesterday with BYU. That's why

2373
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: they never really had a shot. They were never going

2374
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: to be in the playoff to begin with. I completely

2375
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:16,759
Speaker 1: understand it. People like, well, you don't understand that Bama

2376
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: was already in the playoff. BYU wasn't in the playoffs.

2377
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I get that. To me, it's you're talking about what

2378
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: you watched on the field, and that's what pushed them

2379
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 1: back at ranking. What you watched on the field in

2380
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship was the same exact thing, and they

2381
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: they went full protection mode on Bama and the SEC,

2382
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: which again we know the powers that be the SEC,

2383
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: ESPN all where the money's at. You don't want to

2384
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: piss off your biggest, your best product. They were never

2385
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 1: gonna move Bama. So in my opinion, you're either going

2386
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: to move both BYU and Bama back a slot, which

2387
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 1: again Alabama is still in the playoff. BYU is still

2388
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 1: out of the playoff, or you're going to keep them

2389
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 1: both right where they're at. But the problem was they

2390
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 1: fucked up putting Notre Dame so high in Miami so

2391
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: far back to begin with, because they knew they had

2392
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 1: to manipulate this system to get them side by side.

2393
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Give kind of the nod to Miami over Notre Dame

2394
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 1: because they beat him head to head. But that's all

2395
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: they were trying to do. Because the way that my

2396
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: man was up there breaking down each conference game, I'm like, yo,

2397
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: this is unreal hearing him talk about BYU like this

2398
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:16,679
Speaker 1: and then fully protect Alabama because it's like you either

2399
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: just keep them where they're at or you move them

2400
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 1: back a slot. I thought that they would move Bama

2401
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: back a slat based on that performance, because again, if not,

2402
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,919
Speaker 1: it's like, these conference games shouldn't mean anything. If nobody's

2403
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: gonna move and there's there's not gonna be a whole

2404
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: lot of movement, just take the conference championship games out

2405
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: of it. But that was where I was kind of like, dude,

2406
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: I would be livid if I was Notre Dame because

2407
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 1: if Bama does the same thing, Bama is still in

2408
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: the playoff at ten. But now Notre Dame, you have

2409
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: to flip them. Notre Dame has to be nine, so

2410
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: they're never compared right next to Miami. At the end

2411
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: of the day, I do think both Miami and Notre

2412
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 1: Dame should be in over We have two G fives

2413
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: in That sucks. But a hunter, they're gonna sit up

2414
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 1: there and say it had nothing to do with the

2415
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: ACC representation. To me, that's that's complete bullshit, Like that's

2416
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: why Miami's getting in, putting not in any other position,

2417
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: put Notre Dame. Say Michigan's tending to in Notre Dame.

2418
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: Spot any team in here if your team is what

2419
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame was sitting at, they're all getting in. Now

2420
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's in the ACC. They're getting they're playing in

2421
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 1: the ACC Championship because they don't. They only have one

2422
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: conference loss compared to Miami's.

2423
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 6: Too.

2424
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Again, everybody's been begging them to get in the conference.

2425
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 1: People are happy that they're not punished for not being

2426
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: in a conference. I get all of that, but Notre

2427
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: Dame in any other situation, they are getting in that

2428
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: college football playoffs, so I would be absolutely pissed. I

2429
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: completely understand why they're removing themselves their rights. They don't

2430
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: want to help out X, Y and Z. I get

2431
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 1: that from a high level, From a competitive level, it sucks.

2432
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:40,839
Speaker 1: It's like you want to go put the ball down anywhere,

2433
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: any place anytime. People say bowl games mean absolutely nothing,

2434
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: so there's really no upside to playing in a bowl

2435
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: game anyway. I get all of it, but I would

2436
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: be livid if I was in the Notre Dame camp.

2437
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2438
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 1: And again, if the majority thinks they're the better football team,

2439
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: you put the better football team in the college football playoff.

2440
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 2: Can't put you can't put the better football team in

2441
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: over the more deserving football team in. Can't do it.

2442
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, and that's why I personally want

2443
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: G was the first team these deserving teams to like, Okay,

2444
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: we want the best. I want the best teams going

2445
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 1: in the Costo player. I don't disagree because right before

2446
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: the selection Sunday happened, they're at a minus thirty five

2447
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,799
Speaker 1: hundred to get in like everything, they're favored against basically

2448
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,680
Speaker 1: every team except like three teams, like they had a

2449
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: top four shot of winning this thing. And I hate

2450
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: that we're not seeing the twelve best teams after Bama

2451
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: lost the way that they lost, and I get it,

2452
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: they earned the right to be in the SEC Championship,

2453
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: but what we saw the way they lost, the way

2454
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: they've kind of hobbled in at the end of the year,

2455
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: beating South Carolina by seven, surviving against Auburn, getting whooped

2456
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: like that in the SEC Championship.

2457
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 2: To me, I was saying it on the broadcast.

2458
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: I put out the tweet. I'm like putting Notre Dame

2459
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: in Miami, both in because they both seem like they're

2460
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:53,799
Speaker 1: the better football team than Alabama.

2461
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't disagree with the fact that Alabama kind

2462
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 2: of lived themselves in the SEC Championship. If you take

2463
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 2: Alabama out of the playoffs, the SEC would fucking lose

2464
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:07,560
Speaker 2: their mind. It would be like, the SEC is the

2465
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,560
Speaker 2: highest earner for all of college football. We know that,

2466
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 2: we understand that they are not going to take out

2467
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: another SEC school because of it. That's not going to happen.

2468
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what you said. So many words you

2469
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 2: talked about BYU for a second, b YU was never

2470
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I might have been ranked eleven, but

2471
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 2: they were never in the playoffs. Because when everything sort

2472
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: itself out, these G five teams had to be in,

2473
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 2: so unless you're in that ten slot, you're actually not

2474
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 2: in like eleven and twelve for kind of placeholders for

2475
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 2: the ACC Championship taking place or these what ended up

2476
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 2: being the two G fives. So if you're BYU, you

2477
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 2: had it was very black and white. You win, you're

2478
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 2: going to be in the playoffs. You lose, you were

2479
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs. It'd been very interesting to see

2480
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,839
Speaker 2: BYU win that game, to see what happens with Alabama

2481
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in Miami. But if you're Alabama, it's like

2482
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: you've earned a luxury to play in this game that

2483
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 2: Ole miss that didn't have and who was in Oklahoma

2484
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 2: and and m so three teams like weren't good enough

2485
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 2: to get in this game, and you're gonna take out

2486
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: a team that was good enough to get in this game.

2487
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 2: That makes zero sense all of them to me. This

2488
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: is a week thirteen, but it's like it's exhibition, Like

2489
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 2: whoever wins, they get to hold up a trophy they get,

2490
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 2: the better they can get the confetti the other team.

2491
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: Hopefully we're not injured, because the real, the real journey

2492
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 2: is but to begin in a couple of weeks we

2493
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 2: go for the for the playoffs. People that are mad

2494
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: that Alabama's still in it, it's just buddy, two things,

2495
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 2: money and you're never gonna punish a team for being

2496
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:32,719
Speaker 2: the second best in your conference.

2497
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 10: Again, I'm not like that game is the number one

2498
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 10: seed in the SEC.

2499
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah right, we all knew that. That was like Alabama

2500
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be out of it. I'm saying, if you're

2501
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: looking at just what happened and everything else, it's like, yo,

2502
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: just put Notre Dame Miami. I get that that was

2503
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: never going to be the case. They were going to

2504
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: keep Miami in and I know BYU is not gonna

2505
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, But in those situations, those rankings

2506
01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: still matter, and all in the system essentially just had

2507
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to manipulate to where this

2508
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami conversation had to take place, or saying, hey,

2509
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: they had to head to head win. It's like you

2510
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: needed an ACC team in. And also like you're up

2511
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 1: there talking about how BYU the way they perform, that's

2512
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 1: why their ranking drops back to me, it's like, I

2513
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: know BYU is never gonna be in it. I'm not

2514
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: arguing they should have been in it even with a

2515
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: close loss, but them them holding true to that eleven

2516
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: ranking when Alabama didn't move down either. To me, that's

2517
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: where I was like, guys, just say you messed up.

2518
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:28,920
Speaker 1: You messed up, and you had to figure out the

2519
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: system to get Notre Dame in Miami. We messed up

2520
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: by making Notre Dame so much higher in the very

2521
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: beginning when we opened it up. We fucked up by

2522
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: disrespecting Miami's ranking. At the very end, we never talked

2523
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: about their head to head. The world exploded over it,

2524
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: and at the eleventh hour you had to just figure

2525
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: out a way to manipulate it a little bit to

2526
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 1: get him head to head. I would rather just hear

2527
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: him say, hey, we messed up from the get go,

2528
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 1: versus being like BYU the way they lost, that's kind

2529
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,600
Speaker 1: of why their ranking goes back one or they were

2530
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: never going to be a playoff. I know they were

2531
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: never gonna be in every time. But then fully protecting, yeah,

2532
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: fully protecting Bama versus being like, again, if you're doing

2533
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: the same thing to BYU moving them back one Byama

2534
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: is still in with going down in Bama is still

2535
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: in with going down to ten, you would just it

2536
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 1: would make that argument that much harder for Notre Dame.

2537
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,800
Speaker 10: To me, that's why I was shocked they didn't move

2538
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 10: Alabama down one spot to keep Notre Dame in. It

2539
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 10: helps your case if you're the committee, say Okay, they're

2540
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 10: still in, but we did punish them by moving them down.

2541
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 10: You did reward Notre Dame. But where they messed up

2542
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 10: is what you're saying, like three weeks ago, yeah they did.

2543
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 10: The bracket is where they started this chaos.

2544
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, agree on a hundred.

2545
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 2: This issue came week three of college football when you

2546
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 2: had Notre Dame still in the AP, which I know

2547
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 2: AP and College Wall playoff bracket tw two different things.

2548
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 2: Notre Dame loses two games in a row. I understand

2549
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 2: those are two highly ranked teams, but they're the first team,

2550
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 2: and I don't know how long we can obviously look

2551
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 2: it up that Notre Dame stayed in the top twenty five,

2552
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 2: knowing good and well that this brand, this logo and

2553
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 2: South Bend Indiana and what they've been able to do

2554
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: for college football. We need getting the playoffs hopefully. These

2555
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 2: other two teams they lost to stumble fall and get

2556
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 2: one more loss in Notre Dame doesks we know that

2557
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna win the next ten games in a row.

2558
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: That is where they messed up is the game of assumption.

2559
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 2: Now the BYU thing, I don't know why this guy

2560
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 2: sitting up in a press conference going well because of

2561
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 2: BYU lost by this much. The easiest answer is they hey,

2562
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: they were never in it, like based on the rules

2563
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 2: and how this whole thing is structured. Even though these

2564
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 2: two teams is to Lane and GMU that you now

2565
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 2: see up here, they're in. They were always in. These

2566
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 2: eleven and twelve guys in thirteen fourteen, they were all

2567
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: placeholders for what happened in the ACC championship. That's it.

2568
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 2: The only way BYU makes it in is if they

2569
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 2: win the Big twelve, then Miami's also out. Miami would

2570
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 2: never in and then and then because the College Ruble

2571
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: brought the College Bable Playoff is built to have the

2572
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 2: SEC winner, the Big ten winner, a Bag twelve winner,

2573
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 2: and the ACC winner. That is how it's built. But

2574
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 2: because the ACC has the most insane schedule, a billion

2575
01:54:58,160 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 2: teams in it, and none of the good teams actually

2576
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 2: play each other, and they fucked around the whole entire year. Now,

2577
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 2: the committee found themselves in a spot they never thought

2578
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 2: they would be in, and so this is what's great.

2579
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people can be pissed about this. If

2580
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: you're Notre Dame, feel free to be mad. If your Texas,

2581
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 2: feel free.

2582
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: To be mad.

2583
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: The people I feel most bad for is Vanderbilt said it.

2584
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm the only one saying it. However, it sucks for

2585
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 2: you guys that you're not in this playoff going down

2586
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: the road now. The only way for real change to

2587
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 2: take place is when catastrophic things happen. This would qualify

2588
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: as a catastrophic thing happening so that the next year

2589
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 2: the college wall bracket is more. Hey, the best twelve

2590
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: teams now. The answer to that question, to me, even

2591
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 2: though I would love to see it, the answer is

2592
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 2: not to make it sixteen. That is not your answer,

2593
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 2: because you're going to run in the same problem with

2594
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: sixteen through eighteen, and then there's gonna be the Jmus

2595
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: and the two Lanes who are good football teams, but

2596
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 2: they're not competitive from a winning a national championship. I

2597
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: think the easiest and clearest way in.

2598
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 1: This Hey, shout out to Caleb B. Ingram teared talk.

2599
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 1: He did want us to break down how we would

2600
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: fix the college football Okay, so.

2601
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 2: Okay, well here we are, Kaylee b Ingram to me

2602
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 2: and this was not my opinion. This is opinion that

2603
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: was given to me that I'm not saying, like that

2604
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 2: sounds really a well way to do it is, Josh

2605
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 2: pay goes, why not make it? You have to be

2606
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 2: ranked in the top fifteen to be in the Cullegeur

2607
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Role Playoff.

2608
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:11,839
Speaker 1: You have to be a top.

2609
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 2: Fifteen team to even be into it. Now you don't

2610
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 2: get into this JMU two lane World, Miami Notre Dame.

2611
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 2: Like now you're kind of sniffing out these are the

2612
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 2: best teams because I believe in somebody's correct me if

2613
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, you can't leave out a G five team

2614
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 2: in the Coullegeur Role Playoff. Im my correct in that

2615
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 2: you're not allowed. It's literally legislation has to be changed.

2616
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 2: If something has to happen from a government standpoint, that's

2617
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 2: way above me to get that finished. So and then

2618
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 2: oh this is a good one too. There's jer talk

2619
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 2: by d Moote sixty one, go ahead, will.

2620
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to add to that too. In

2621
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, you do away with championship weekend because I

2622
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: know big time money, but I loved listening to Kirby's

2623
01:56:56,200 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 1: smart breakdown his even argument for he knows he wants,

2624
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: but he also did some he also did some work

2625
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: for the SEC. So for Bama in this situation, he's like,

2626
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 1: you guys, they're SEC is gonna have to play nine

2627
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: conference games. He's like, you guys, just witnessed a ninth

2628
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 1: game in the SEC. Everybody's gonna be going through the

2629
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 1: nine conference games, and the SEC is deeper than everybody else.

2630
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: And he's like, then you're just gonna get if you

2631
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 1: do a championship game, you're gonna get a tenth SEC game. Yeah,

2632
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: and if nobody, like, if nobody's going to if these

2633
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 1: games don't mean anything, like if Bama gets worked like

2634
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: that and nothing happens ranking wise, nothing really happens ranking

2635
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: wise for you know, Big twelve everywhere else. It's like,

2636
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: why not just throw away conference championship weekend, Get the

2637
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: playoff started earlier, get it done by a New Year's.

2638
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 8: I think yeah, I think yeah, exactly, make conference championship

2639
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 8: playing weekend. You have the spots ten, eleven, and twelve open,

2640
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 8: and then you have six teams. Those those three winners

2641
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 8: are now you're ten, eleventh, and twelve.

2642
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Dog.

2643
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 2: I would absolutely love that like that. Yeah, I love it.

2644
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 1: That is I feel like that now right, there's money everybody.

2645
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: That that's when everywhere. However, but now you're splitting money

2646
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: right because you have ACC playing Big Big ten, who's

2647
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: playing Big twelve? Places s seat. Now all these conferences

2648
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 2: are getting a bite at the apple as opposed to

2649
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 2: their own apple alone, like the SEC Championship, Big ten Championship.

2650
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 2: I listen, if we're talking about purity of the game.

2651
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 2: I love everything we all just said, but we all

2652
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 2: know the powers it be. It's all about that the

2653
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 2: naro that ends up happening. That's why Bowl games are

2654
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 2: still happening. I'm gonna I'll touch on this real quick

2655
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 2: because I know we've already moved past the subject. I

2656
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 2: have zero issue with Notre Dame taking their ball and

2657
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: going home.

2658
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: Zero.

2659
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 2: I think Bowl games are done. I told G last

2660
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 2: year what alabim playing Mission. I was like, bro, this

2661
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 2: game didn't matter. Like we won and that was great,

2662
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 2: but like half your team sat out and a bun

2663
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:43,920
Speaker 2: and less of our guys sat out than your guys,

2664
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 2: and the weather happened to work out for us. I

2665
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 2: don't care. The most important thing for Bowl games for

2666
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 2: me are those fifteen practices because you get your set

2667
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 2: your kids that early in roll, you get to get

2668
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 2: them into an extra fifteen day practices, and now you're

2669
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: looking towards the next year. Yes, I feel bad for

2670
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 2: the marching bam and the baton girls and the cheerleaders,

2671
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 2: everybody who's like, oh shit, yeah, seniors who are like,

2672
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 2: oh shit, that's my last year, that was my last

2673
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 2: game and I didn't even know it. My heart does

2674
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 2: go out to them for that. But from a competitive standpoint,

2675
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 2: there's zero like the days of like Vanderbilt, the way

2676
01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: they took the any time any place, anywhere, like that

2677
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 2: whole thought process that is now, that is Caveman thought process.

2678
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 2: We're in the world of how do we get into

2679
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,160
Speaker 2: the college World Playoff if we're not in the cullege

2680
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: role playoff? How do we make our team better through

2681
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 2: the transfer portal and recruiting process to get to the

2682
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 2: culgeur wrole Playoff. None of these coaches give a shit.

2683
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 2: They probably do give a shit, but no one who

2684
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 2: is an actual competitive team like in Notre Dame City

2685
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 2: outside or like a Texas that are like in that

2686
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:46,920
Speaker 2: we should have been in the playoffs. We have a

2687
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 2: argument in our mind that we truly believe we should

2688
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,320
Speaker 2: be in the playoffs. No one, they don't give a

2689
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 2: shit about the ball game. They want to look to

2690
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 2: next year to get into sar talk about the ball game.

2691
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: What he said, he was all these gratitude.

2692
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: He's all about. They can't wait to go out there

2693
01:59:58,360 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: and compete against a team like Michigan.

2694
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 2: I love That's great. That's that's perfectly said to the

2695
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 2: to the public. You should absolutely said it about it too.

2696
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 2: I love that that's all. That's what That's what Vanderbilt

2697
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 2: should absolutely say. I'm saying the shit doesn't matter anymore,

2698
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 2: and we all know it doesn't matter anymore.

2699
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 11: You had so many teams drop out of ball games

2700
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 11: that nine, five and seven teams were offered bowl games

2701
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 11: and nine said no until Appalachian State said yes, that's crazy.

2702
02:00:25,040 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 1: Crazy.

2703
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 2: The world's changing. College football is changing now. You can

2704
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 2: let we can let the snowball effect continue to take

2705
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 2: place where it just gets bigger and bigger and worse

2706
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 2: and worse, to where the actual product itself itself goes downhill,

2707
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 2: or we can fix it the ESPN this wee can

2708
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 2: get last week and get up Josh Pat the way

2709
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: he was talking about the biggest problem is the schedule.

2710
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 2: That's how you fix most of this. You can still

2711
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 2: play your bowl games and have all that have fun

2712
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 2: kids that are outside the playoffs, but like playing games

2713
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 2: would have happened this past weekend, the first round is

2714
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: coming up this Saturday.

2715
02:00:58,000 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: I love to play in.

2716
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: I love this December football, Dame, I love December, all

2717
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 2: cult football. Jan one, we're finding out who are national champions.

2718
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 10: Bowl games are they don't mean anything. You take those

2719
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,640
Speaker 10: like Mitch just saying those teams that are on that bubble.

2720
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 10: This play in weekend is now sponsored by those bowls.

2721
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 10: So like your Sugar Bowl whatever, those big rosebaying. So

2722
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,240
Speaker 10: you still get that to narrow that you're talking about,

2723
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 10: have a chance for the play in. You try and

2724
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 10: make everyone happy by getting competition on the field to

2725
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 10: fight for a chance at the playoff. Also, you have

2726
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 10: all those major companies that sponsored bowl, the big bowl

2727
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 10: games make their to narrow. I just don't know why

2728
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 10: we're not moving towards that. Maybe they will and I agree.

2729
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 10: Going to more teams, you're gonna run into an issue

2730
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 10: where Okay, so now you want the twenty fourth best

2731
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 10: team right in Well that's happening.

2732
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 2: Right now with JMU.

2733
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2734
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 7: The viewership I think on these two will be you

2735
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 7: can make money.

2736
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 2: People. Could you imagine teams playing for their the I

2737
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 2: mean college football is exactly what this is, but you're

2738
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:06,880
Speaker 2: playing for your winning get in good.

2739
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, any college any college football fan would love to

2740
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 8: watch those games rather than like the fucking random ass

2741
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 8: Bowl that nobody give gives a shit about.

2742
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 2: Imagine watching Miami versus Texas.

2743
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,080
Speaker 7: Like imagine watching Van Diy versus b y.

2744
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 2: U Fanny verse six rematch. But I'm thinking about the

2745
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, different conference. Yeah, like the thought of like

2746
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 2: other teams playing each other neutral site. That's a neutral

2747
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:31,080
Speaker 2: site right then the next I think the next two

2748
02:02:31,120 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 2: weeks after that need to be whoever the higher seat is?

2749
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 2: That to me fires me up. Have your national championship

2750
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 2: in a neutral site location that is always in forever

2751
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 2: will be fair to me. Yeah, ye I does anybody

2752
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 2: see any holes in that common section? You need to

2753
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 2: speak up because just kind of spit it.

2754
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 1: There where we're we're in a spot we will never

2755
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: forget this year of the bracket that the college foot

2756
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 1: will playoff. I think it's going to create an urgency

2757
02:02:56,560 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 1: to fix some things going on. Uh yeah, dude, chaos.

2758
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 2: Chaos.

2759
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 1: He got clarkly here. That's no one, no one's fault

2760
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: except our own. We had our opportunities and we didn't

2761
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: do enough. We're not victims in this process. Our ownership

2762
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:11,800
Speaker 1: is in coming up short.

2763
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,879
Speaker 2: Listen clark Lee, like that quote right there, that's exactly

2764
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 2: what you want in that building. I don't have im

2765
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 2: well he you don't give a shit about ball games,

2766
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 2: like we're gonna you guys can play, Guys will sit

2767
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 2: out or not sit out. But we had it even that.

2768
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 2: The product of the product of bowl games are crazy too,

2769
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:32,120
Speaker 2: because all the players, all the players that are going

2770
02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: to go to the draft, the play the thing that

2771
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 2: you buy a ticket or I can't wait to watch

2772
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,640
Speaker 2: this player play. Well, that player that's playing, he's not there.

2773
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,080
Speaker 2: He's going to be in the portal or he's going

2774
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 2: to be going to the draft.

2775
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 10: I think the coolest part about the clark Lee statement

2776
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 10: is it came after Notre Dame took their ball and

2777
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 10: went home.

2778
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is a massive war going on

2779
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: with conferences and Notre Dame's independence. Yeah, yeah, I agree

2780
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: with that, because if you if you take if we're

2781
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 1: if say we're in the scope right now and we're

2782
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 1: talking about Clark Lee's quote coming out after Notre Dame.

2783
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: Let's make this about Clark Lee him being in a

2784
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 1: conference in Notre Dame, because Notre Dame is continuing to

2785
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: fight for their independence. Because every person who's mad bring

2786
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: up the tier talk. Shuream, we have a tier talk

2787
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: here from d d MO at sixty one. Notre Dame

2788
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,240
Speaker 1: can join a conference or shut the fuck up hashtag

2789
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: tier talk again. Anybody who can be in Notre Dame's

2790
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: position to have their independence, they would want that. And

2791
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 1: what everybody that's part of a conference is doing is

2792
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,720
Speaker 1: being like, hey, this is how you get punished when

2793
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 1: you're not being in a conference. Because take Vanderbilt. If

2794
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt had Notre Dame's record, schedule everything, and they're part

2795
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 1: of I know they played a bunch of ACC teams

2796
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:41,160
Speaker 1: or whatever else, but if Andy had that resume, Vanderbilt

2797
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: would be going in because they wouldn't have lost Obama,

2798
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have lost to Texas like they'd be out there.

2799
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 1: We lost one point to Texas A and m we

2800
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,920
Speaker 1: lost to a tough Miami team. They would be in

2801
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 1: like in that situation, if it's not Notre Dame and

2802
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: somebody in a conference, those teams are getting that team

2803
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 1: would get in the way. Notre Dame finished on a

2804
02:04:55,640 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 1: ten win winning streak.

2805
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 10: Notre Dame ideally has the right situation, right, But they,

2806
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 10: like you're saying, are getting punished for it.

2807
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 5: Right.

2808
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: It's like they're they're on the wrong side of it,

2809
02:05:04,760 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: get getting pushed out of it. Be like, hey man,

2810
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,280
Speaker 1: you're not part of a conference there, and Notre Dame

2811
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 1: should if they're want to keep their independence, they're trying

2812
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,600
Speaker 1: to do the right thing strategically to continue to hold

2813
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: their conference and not bend the knee on joining one. Yeah,

2814
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 1: all right, listen, you're taking us out of the playoffs.

2815
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: We all know it was absolute bullshit, and we're gonna

2816
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna to sit out of our bowl game.

2817
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 1: We're going to know that we had this this uh

2818
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: part of a contract sign that gets if we're part

2819
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 1: of the top twelve. We're gonna get an automatic bid

2820
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 1: that we have a very easy schedule next season. Because

2821
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:35,840
Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna sit there and talk, shit, we're

2822
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna kill everybody that's in our way, Like, yeah, you

2823
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: got an easier schedule, they have it set up. I

2824
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 1: understand people hating Notre Dame. I understand the argument for

2825
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:44,800
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. It's a there is a bigger war going

2826
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 1: on with all this conference to what happens.

2827
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 2: Bigger war looks like you found out what the war was.

2828
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we're breaking it down a little bit. I'll

2829
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 1: keep diving into my reddit, to my reddit language later

2830
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: on to figure next year.

2831
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 5: Now that.

2832
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 10: Using Texas Ohio State, for example, that first game of

2833
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 10: the year, no one's going to schedule that anymore.

2834
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, he actually has talked about that. He said, we're

2835
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna honor our games with Ohio State and Michigan because

2836
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 2: I mean they went up north and played both us, Like, yeah,

2837
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 2: bring your asses down here to Austin, Texas. Now they's

2838
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 2: gonna honor those two. After that, there's no promises, which

2839
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,080
Speaker 2: is a bad thing for football. It's a bad thing

2840
02:06:18,160 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 2: for football, but it's it's an understandable strategic move, and

2841
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 2: it seemed like Nebraska's a little ahead of themselves also

2842
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 2: because we sat here, what June July when Nebraska's like,

2843
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 2: we're not playing Tennessee in the regular season, Like why

2844
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 2: would you? Why would you make it harder on yourself?

2845
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 2: If you have a logo and a conference that'll be like,

2846
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna get in.

2847
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:40,120
Speaker 10: So when that happens in Notre Dame is the twelfth team,

2848
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 10: like the what if they're not the twelfth team because

2849
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 10: now Ohio State's playing ECU instead of Texas.

2850
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 2: And so the or Texas is playing a smart team Exactly.

2851
02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 10: The stronger teams in a conference aren't going to have

2852
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,000
Speaker 10: that chance to drop one extra one. So Notre Dame,

2853
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 10: you can play sam for like you're gonna play all

2854
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 10: these teams, so not gonna help you against It's not gonna.

2855
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 1: In n IU, Yeah, yeah, Northern Island.

2856
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:10,160
Speaker 10: The resume is not gonna help you get in that

2857
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 10: twelve spot.

2858
02:07:11,080 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: True. Now we're Notre Dames sitting at now like in

2859
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 1: the AP they're in the top ten college rankings, they're

2860
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 1: in the what were they who knows either way? The

2861
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 1: first went out whatever? Uh by opting out of a

2862
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 1: bowl game, they have they're not risking anything on having

2863
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 1: a bad performance, So that way they'll go into the

2864
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: rankings next year preseason with the loaded roster, one of

2865
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 1: the best recruiting classes year and in year out. They're

2866
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna be their position with an easier schedule. They take

2867
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:35,760
Speaker 1: care of that schedule. I mean, they're they're clearly gonna

2868
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 1: be in Here's what Notre Dame as they will if

2869
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 1: their positioned in like the top twelve coming out of

2870
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 1: the gate in season and then they win all of

2871
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,280
Speaker 1: their games like they're not gonna So.

2872
02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 10: You would put a Notre Dame, say they had one

2873
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 10: loss next year one loss, Notre Dames schedule in or

2874
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:58,000
Speaker 10: rank them higher than an SEC Big ten team with

2875
02:07:58,320 --> 02:07:59,080
Speaker 10: two losses.

2876
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: I have no clue.

2877
02:08:00,560 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 2: It depends where. It depends where they start and the

2878
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 2: A people, it depends who they lost to. Here's what

2879
02:08:07,320 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is going to in a Notre Dame hood, right,

2880
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 2: because if Notre Dame ops out and have the big

2881
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 2: recruiting class of a bunch of guys coming back, obviously

2882
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is probably know the NFL. If they're going

2883
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 2: to be ranked in the top ten and their schedule

2884
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 2: is very easy next year, then yeah, it's in their hands.

2885
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 2: What is going to be an issue is if Notre

2886
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 2: Dame ever plays a difficult schedule and they have themselves

2887
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 2: sitting in that thirteen to twelve area, and if this

2888
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 2: war is still going on the way we think the

2889
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,600
Speaker 2: war's going on, then you bet your ass the Committee's

2890
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 2: gonna have them at thirteen.

2891
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:37,280
Speaker 1: People are saying for Notre Dame to get back at

2892
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,480
Speaker 1: whatever again, whatever war they are fighting right now, they

2893
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 1: would try and hurt the ACC by scheduling games some

2894
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:46,400
Speaker 1: with the Big ten because of their rights and everything else.

2895
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 1: I have no clue, but people are talking about all

2896
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 1: the strategy Notre Dame is looking at doing currently since

2897
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:53,000
Speaker 1: they've been pushed out of the play.

2898
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 11: Their schedule next year is horrendous. By the way, the

2899
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 11: two best teams they are playing are Miami and USC.

2900
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 11: You could argue for s m U.

2901
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:06,640
Speaker 6: I feel like the question people aren't asking is since

2902
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 6: when do Catholics pull out?

2903
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 2: Hey? I got so blindsided by that.

2904
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 1: I know, I thought he was gonna have some serious

2905
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, a different perspective. Damn, I

2906
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what this is and listen to

2907
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: everybody we can't use contraceptives.

2908
02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

2909
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? That is that's funny.

2910
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:29,160
Speaker 7: Jack.

2911
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: Another thing two people are talking about was how the

2912
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday Show of dropping the rankings every week kind of like,

2913
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, looking back on it, it's like, hey, you

2914
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 1: should have just done away with the Tuesday Rankings show

2915
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:46,720
Speaker 1: because had we known nothing and sleucch and Sunday happened yesterday,

2916
02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have been surprised that Miami

2917
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: would have clipped Notre Dame.

2918
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:52,240
Speaker 2: That will not happen because of money.

2919
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 1: It's just true.

2920
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 2: If you're gonna have every Tuesday like for the last

2921
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:58,120
Speaker 2: three four weeks, everybody does not.

2922
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:00,800
Speaker 1: Like waited for Tuesdays, every minute of it.

2923
02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:04,360
Speaker 2: Spoiler. I did not watch one, but I'm sure a

2924
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 2: lot of people out there are like, oh man, I

2925
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 2: gotta fucking see. I'm just waiting for the little graft

2926
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 2: to come out by oh shit.

2927
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:09,480
Speaker 3: You know.

2928
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, well then it brings out the whole tinfoil hat

2929
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:18,000
Speaker 11: discussion of this playoff essentially being owned by ESPN. ESPN's

2930
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 11: hands on the conferences, a lot of people are saying,

2931
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 11: if Virginia Hat beat Duke Virginia's in Notre Dame is

2932
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 11: in as well Virginia because they need a ACC because

2933
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 11: ACC would have I mean, Hell would have broken loose.

2934
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 11: So they're like, what is the less of all the evils.

2935
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 11: Piss off Alabama, piss off Notre Dame, or piss off

2936
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 11: the ACC. Let's piss off the independent conference or the

2937
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 11: independent team that we have been trying to bully into

2938
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:50,680
Speaker 11: joining a conference. And not just ESPN, Fox as well.

2939
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 11: A lot of these conferences are wanting Notre Dame to

2940
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 11: join their conference.

2941
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 1: It's and what network is the ACC partnered with?

2942
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 2: ESPN? No, no, no, it's just it's we did the

2943
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 2: old cast.

2944
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: You talk like this, I'm just saying, man, I gotta be.

2945
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 2: But that's what people are arguing is that this excuse me,

2946
02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 2: Bob Bigger. I want to apologize for Confident the things

2947
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 2: that he have said.

2948
02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:14,560
Speaker 1: We love the CFP.

2949
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 2: His opinions are not mine. But yeah, that's crazy, but

2950
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 2: it is.

2951
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 11: It is crazy, And a lot of people are saying

2952
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 11: that ownership it either needs to be by multiple entities

2953
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 11: so that there's not this kind of behind the curtain

2954
02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 11: conversation that the public is then never privy to and

2955
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 11: they won't ever come out and say, hey, b Yu

2956
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 11: was never gonna make it.

2957
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:37,640
Speaker 10: They'll never have an explanation of why, and.

2958
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 1: Say they having a SEC representative was never part of

2959
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 1: the conversation. Oh, it's like, come on.

2960
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 10: Notre Dame instead of like a JMU or two lane.

2961
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:50,879
Speaker 1: But I can't.

2962
02:11:52,440 --> 02:11:56,920
Speaker 10: But like, if you're gonna, now's the time to fucking rewrite, right.

2963
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if they were to do that, like

2964
02:11:58,560 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 1: that is actually it's a lee.

2965
02:12:00,520 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I kept saying. Josh Pay. Josh Pay

2966
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 2: kept telling me that this is actually illegal. The rule.

2967
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 8: The rule is the five highest ranked conference champs and

2968
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:11,800
Speaker 8: that's where those two fall in is because of them,

2969
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 8: and like that's the rule. That's legal. But it's also

2970
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 8: like in legal writing that at least one g G

2971
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 8: five has to come.

2972
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,520
Speaker 1: I think committee is absolutely. So everybody is like, yes,

2973
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 1: this kind of sucks that we have two G five's

2974
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 1: in this college.

2975
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 2: It does. But when they get mopped, and I hope

2976
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:29,880
Speaker 2: they do no disrespect to the G fives, I hope

2977
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 2: they get fucking mopped so we can all just sit

2978
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:34,919
Speaker 2: there and be like, Kay, let's time to change legislation

2979
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 2: because here's what the G fives and I know, I

2980
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 2: guess I've caught a lot of heat from the Jurassic

2981
02:12:40,280 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 2: Park thing. And it's like the opinion doesn't change, like

2982
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 2: the truth. The truth doesn't care about your feelings in

2983
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:48,600
Speaker 2: the situation, like your schools aren't built to compete with

2984
02:12:48,720 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 2: the top twelve teams in college football.

2985
02:12:50,320 --> 02:12:50,760
Speaker 1: They aren't.

2986
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 2: And the world we live in now, you're a stepping

2987
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:55,800
Speaker 2: stone school to get to the next place. G fives

2988
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:59,640
Speaker 2: are holding on to Boise State versus Oklahoma, Fiesta Ble,

2989
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 2: that's what they're holding on to. And if a G

2990
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 2: five is undefeated and they're mopping all the teams in

2991
02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 2: their conference, hell yeah, put them in. This seems like

2992
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 2: the team they can actually make a little bit of dent.

2993
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. Then put them in. Absolutely, but

2994
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 2: to happen, huh year was good?

2995
02:13:16,360 --> 02:13:17,080
Speaker 1: What happened to them.

2996
02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 7: I mean, they didn't get blown out by Penn State,

2997
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 7: but they obviously lost.

2998
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 2: There was never in question.

2999
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:24,280
Speaker 1: But they earned their way up there, and they were

3000
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 1: ranked a certain way to where they're only metrics of

3001
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 1: like being in the College Football player.

3002
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 8: Boise States only lost it last year was like by

3003
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 8: three points to Oregon. Yeah, they had the best player

3004
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 8: in college football with Ashan Genty. So like I feel

3005
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,120
Speaker 8: like last year Boise State was warranted to be in it.

3006
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:44,960
Speaker 1: This year, yeah, G five is like undefeated or whatever.

3007
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 1: They're in the top fifteen. They've like earned their way

3008
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:49,400
Speaker 1: into the College Wable playoffs. But doing it this year

3009
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:52,400
Speaker 1: just feels like it's like, Okay, let's put the champion

3010
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 1: of the CFL now gets to be the last seed

3011
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:58,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL playoffs. They get an automatic bid to

3012
02:13:58,440 --> 02:13:59,720
Speaker 1: the to the NFL playoffs.

3013
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:05,280
Speaker 11: It would be fun for that argument exactly two of

3014
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:08,440
Speaker 11: the playing games. That is a perfect excuse for the

3015
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 11: playing games with those G five teams, and you have

3016
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 11: some like fun storylines to follow and underdog story.

3017
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,360
Speaker 4: If you, if you guys are who you say you

3018
02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 4: are and you love chaos, you'd be rooting for the

3019
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 4: G five teams to win in the playoff.

3020
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:25,760
Speaker 1: No, because ultimately I want the twelve best teams in

3021
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:26,839
Speaker 1: the college who will playoff.

3022
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:29,640
Speaker 2: You don't want chaos, No, we want kiss in the

3023
02:14:29,680 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 2: sense that we're sitting here right now after the chaos

3024
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:34,960
Speaker 2: we've wanted to unfold. The reality is is like these

3025
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,120
Speaker 2: G fives we the chaos. We want well I'll speak

3026
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 2: for me. The chaos that I want is for exactly

3027
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 2: what happens so that change is made. Because at the

3028
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:44,840
Speaker 2: end of the day, I would love like the way

3029
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 2: we just put together this playing thing we get we

3030
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 2: get on mass championships on Jan. One, like that's college

3031
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:55,400
Speaker 2: football season. Then the portal opens Jan. Two, like, which

3032
02:14:55,560 --> 02:15:01,840
Speaker 2: doesn't it already? The Church reportal, Yeah, start entering today. Basically, Buddy,

3033
02:15:01,880 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see how this transfer portal takes

3034
02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 2: place as I.

3035
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:07,920
Speaker 1: Think about it, though, j JP, you might be onto something.

3036
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:10,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like for any g fuss you know,

3037
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 1: JMU two Lane, you're out there watching this right now.

3038
02:15:12,760 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 1: Willis's kind of I'm here to get recruited. Make that run.

3039
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:20,400
Speaker 12: I'm not starts winning like they be Ole Miss, which

3040
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,360
Speaker 12: could happen. You know, Lane's gone and they make a

3041
02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 12: little run. You guys would hate that. Or no, no, no,

3042
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:28,160
Speaker 12: Lane wins their first game. I will be into Lane

3043
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 12: gear the next week.

3044
02:15:29,560 --> 02:15:33,600
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, same thing, same as that. Like, listen, I

3045
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:35,839
Speaker 2: don't think they have any business being in the playoff.

3046
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:40,120
Speaker 2: If either of these teams win, I am one hundred wrong.

3047
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 2: Take all my opinions, throw in the trash and I

3048
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 2: will also be in whatever gear wins, So keep the playoff.

3049
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:46,760
Speaker 1: The same way. Then if one of them wins, is

3050
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

3051
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,280
Speaker 2: No, we'll have that conversation later.

3052
02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 4: The only other thing that bothers me with like all

3053
02:15:53,200 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 4: of the rule making of college football. I hate when

3054
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:57,560
Speaker 4: we that we have to sit here and say, oh no,

3055
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:00,680
Speaker 4: like it's it's written into law, we have to take

3056
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:04,720
Speaker 4: it to court. I'm like, why, man, this is college football?

3057
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 2: Right?

3058
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:08,240
Speaker 4: Why what are we doing one even spending tax money

3059
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:12,240
Speaker 4: on like having this be something that we're that we're

3060
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 4: paying for too. It's just like the greatness of college

3061
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:18,480
Speaker 4: football is in the power of the people, dude. It's

3062
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 4: taking there, taking the power from the people.

3063
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:21,720
Speaker 2: There's so many things that are backwards. You're like, why

3064
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 2: is the committee full of ads?

3065
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 7: Right?

3066
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:27,760
Speaker 2: Like, it's like you have a bunch of ads who

3067
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming some of them will probably working through coaching changes.

3068
02:16:30,720 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 1: There's one who's on the committee. There's one very good one, dude.

3069
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're gonna tell me you're the ad of

3070
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:42,800
Speaker 2: a school your coach has left and you have to

3071
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 2: hire a new coach. And then they're like, hey, do

3072
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:46,120
Speaker 2: you mind having taking five ten minutes, but all of

3073
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 2: your energy into collegeball playoffs. That's crazy, dude, that's crazy.

3074
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:54,160
Speaker 2: You want twelve individuals and Josh Payton the room or

3075
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 2: eleven individuals and Josh Papon.

3076
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if they kept Troy Dannon ad from Nebraska.

3077
02:16:59,000 --> 02:16:59,880
Speaker 1: He's on the committee.

3078
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:02,359
Speaker 2: I think nothing. You need to have people that understand

3079
02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 2: all You need to have number people and people that

3080
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 2: understand football. You need to put them into a room

3081
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 2: and their sole focus is what is the best thing

3082
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:11,800
Speaker 2: for college football? Who are the most deserving and who

3083
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 2: are the best teams to be the top twelve teams.

3084
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 8: You can't be having these people that are fucking eighty

3085
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,240
Speaker 8: years old watching football as if they know what the

3086
02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 8: fuck is going on they could.

3087
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:21,800
Speaker 1: Let's not just take shots at all eighty year olds

3088
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:24,000
Speaker 1: out there, bro, Like there's some dudes who are sikos.

3089
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:28,039
Speaker 1: You didn't meet Josh Pai's dad. You didn't meet Josh

3090
02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 1: Pay's dad.

3091
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:31,640
Speaker 8: Like Josh paid is the way Josh paid is because

3092
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:37,520
Speaker 8: of Josh Paid's dad. Like, I'm sure he's a fucking legend. Yeah,

3093
02:17:37,640 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 8: so what I'm saying these people here?

3094
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so eighty year old like there could be some

3095
02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:45,440
Speaker 1: cats that are still to understand what they're talking about. Listen,

3096
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:47,960
Speaker 1: some I would love to be in the room. I'd

3097
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:49,119
Speaker 1: love to be in the room with the comman.

3098
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:50,880
Speaker 2: Would love to sit there and have these types of

3099
02:17:50,920 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 2: conversations like the commansion we're happening right now is how

3100
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:57,000
Speaker 2: I would hope the committee is having these types of

3101
02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:57,960
Speaker 2: conversations right.

3102
02:17:58,320 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

3103
02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:01,440
Speaker 2: They're looking at a computer screen that go, well, makes sense,

3104
02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:04,680
Speaker 2: But our interests are X, Y and Z. Let's move

3105
02:18:04,720 --> 02:18:09,280
Speaker 2: these two couple of things. Yes, and then you get

3106
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 2: a couple of sickos like us to go sit in

3107
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:13,240
Speaker 2: the room and be like, hey, listen, this is what

3108
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 2: the world wants. This is what the world needs.

3109
02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:18,039
Speaker 4: It should take two or three days to like change

3110
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 4: a rule in college football. Yeah, what's the worst thing

3111
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:23,640
Speaker 4: that happens? You mess up? Dang, we we missed on

3112
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:25,920
Speaker 4: a football game this year. Let's fix it.

3113
02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I don't get, Like, hey, like Duke wins,

3114
02:18:32,440 --> 02:18:35,880
Speaker 1: and then immediately we'll just say group chat, the group

3115
02:18:35,959 --> 02:18:37,600
Speaker 1: chat of the committee gets hit up. We got to

3116
02:18:37,600 --> 02:18:39,400
Speaker 1: get a rule in over the next twenty four hours.

3117
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:40,520
Speaker 9: Works.

3118
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 2: He's in They're so old I don't know the group

3119
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:44,920
Speaker 2: chat works.

3120
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh they don't know.

3121
02:18:47,959 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Mitch hate's old people. That's figured out on

3122
02:18:50,360 --> 02:18:53,560
Speaker 2: this shows.

3123
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:56,920
Speaker 1: The average college football committee playoff committee is sixty one.

3124
02:18:58,560 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that's bad.

3125
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 1: Again, I don't have I'm not disrespecting my elders whatsoever, Mitch.

3126
02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:05,560
Speaker 1: If you want to disrespect your elders, going ahead.

3127
02:19:06,560 --> 02:19:09,680
Speaker 2: You've you've already have. He've already crossed the lines.

3128
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:11,080
Speaker 1: These guys are like eighty in there.

3129
02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:15,560
Speaker 2: Jeez, yeah, should we hit a couple of tear tungs?

3130
02:19:15,640 --> 02:19:16,920
Speaker 2: Do we feel good? Is there any other things we

3131
02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:20,880
Speaker 2: want to talk about as far as college football goes? Oh, clump,

3132
02:19:20,959 --> 02:19:23,360
Speaker 2: go ahead with it. The Hey, first off, don't ever

3133
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:25,600
Speaker 2: raise your hand like that again. Man, like you wanted

3134
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:27,280
Speaker 2: something to say that you put that. He goes like this,

3135
02:19:27,400 --> 02:19:31,080
Speaker 2: he goes, he hit the shoulder on me. It's like, buddy,

3136
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:32,800
Speaker 2: fucking put it up.

3137
02:19:32,840 --> 02:19:35,480
Speaker 1: The Heisman trophy. We want to talk about that at all.

3138
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:38,320
Speaker 2: It should absolutely be Diego Povian.

3139
02:19:39,160 --> 02:19:42,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hey, odds really shift into a fan,

3140
02:19:42,879 --> 02:19:47,160
Speaker 1: no doubt to MEAA, but it's gonna be hard. If

3141
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:49,880
Speaker 1: you're a massive Mendoza fan and you saw that postgame interview.

3142
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:51,959
Speaker 1: Look at interviews.

3143
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 2: Interview shouldn't win you a trophy.

3144
02:19:53,560 --> 02:19:57,080
Speaker 12: Mendoza's stats are just disrespectful to the Heisman Trophy.

3145
02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 1: I think Mendoz is a great player. Interview. I agree.

3146
02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:02,040
Speaker 12: I'm not disrespecting him in any way. But he is

3147
02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:05,280
Speaker 12: on an elite football team, an elite coached football team.

3148
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:09,360
Speaker 12: They're top five and rushing, top five defense. He hasn't

3149
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:11,040
Speaker 12: even thrown for three thousand yards. He's gonna win the

3150
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,720
Speaker 12: Heisman Trophy. That is a disgrace to the Heisman Trophy.

3151
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:16,360
Speaker 1: It should absolutely be Diego Pavia.

3152
02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's oh, here we go.

3153
02:20:19,080 --> 02:20:19,440
Speaker 1: Stats.

3154
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:22,880
Speaker 12: Since November first, Diego Pavia has thrown for one fund

3155
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:26,320
Speaker 12: ninety four yards and twelve touchdowns. Fernando Mendoza has thrown

3156
02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:28,720
Speaker 12: for one thousand, fifty seven yards and only nine touchdowns.

3157
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:31,080
Speaker 1: But that's not even I mean, we're that doesn't even

3158
02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:33,600
Speaker 1: include the run game. Yeah, touchdowns and rush yards that

3159
02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:36,120
Speaker 1: Diego has. It's crazy. And the way that Vandy has

3160
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 1: just been playing as of late, it does suck that

3161
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:40,959
Speaker 1: they that they're not looking at a playoff opportunity.

3162
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:44,240
Speaker 10: So if Diego had one more game to prove himself

3163
02:20:45,959 --> 02:20:47,279
Speaker 10: what do you think would have happened.

3164
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:49,800
Speaker 2: Right, that's a that's a great question, Like if the SEC,

3165
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:53,600
Speaker 2: if these championships, if these conference championships don't matter for

3166
02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:56,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs, then we shouldn't have any weight in the

3167
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:59,440
Speaker 2: conference championship players playing in their stat line to go

3168
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:02,160
Speaker 2: into the Heisman Trophy. Correct, it should have stayed. Okay,

3169
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 2: this is this is the sample size you have to

3170
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:06,080
Speaker 2: work with. Now we go in and give out the

3171
02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:08,000
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. I agree, I think.

3172
02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:10,640
Speaker 7: Dude.

3173
02:21:10,959 --> 02:21:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's a great point, ge Like, if it

3174
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 2: doesn't matter for the teams, what does it matter for

3175
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 2: the individual player? Yeah, buddy, we fucking did it.

3176
02:21:19,800 --> 02:21:21,040
Speaker 1: You could have the playing games too.

3177
02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:23,520
Speaker 2: That's crazy to think, right, Like we really kind of

3178
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:24,360
Speaker 2: figured it out today.

3179
02:21:24,959 --> 02:21:26,879
Speaker 5: Really hard playing.

3180
02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:30,879
Speaker 12: Games, playing games need to games happened. Diego Pavi would

3181
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 12: be another game for a chance to show that he's

3182
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:33,320
Speaker 12: the Heisman.

3183
02:21:33,040 --> 02:21:35,360
Speaker 2: Trophy and his stats are already above and beyond everybody else's.

3184
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:37,960
Speaker 12: He has almost a thousand more yards than Mendoza, by

3185
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:38,960
Speaker 12: the way, totally yards.

3186
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:44,560
Speaker 1: We need that graphic made clump so we can continue

3187
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:45,720
Speaker 1: to push for Pavia.

3188
02:21:45,800 --> 02:21:49,120
Speaker 12: Yeah again, I hate hating on Fernana Mendoza because I

3189
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:51,720
Speaker 12: actually think he's a good player. But against Oregon and

3190
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:54,440
Speaker 12: Ohio State, two hundred and eighteen yards passing, one touchdown,

3191
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 12: one interception, his average against top teams, that's that's a

3192
02:21:59,720 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 12: good thing.

3193
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:01,280
Speaker 1: Her downthrow though, let's give him.

3194
02:22:01,160 --> 02:22:03,960
Speaker 2: The high and listen, we're talking about a Heisman Trophy winner,

3195
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:06,120
Speaker 2: like Fernanda Mendoza is a good football player, have a

3196
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:07,600
Speaker 2: very long career in the NFL. I have a lot

3197
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:08,960
Speaker 2: of respect for him. Hope some day he comes on

3198
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:11,240
Speaker 2: the bus. But if we're talking about who should win

3199
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:14,280
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, it's like this is a year where

3200
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:16,440
Speaker 2: we're talking about who, but we don't know. It's probably

3201
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 2: gonna go to Fernando based on his odds. Right now,

3202
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:21,000
Speaker 2: it should just clearly be Diego's going to win this.

3203
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:23,720
Speaker 2: Clearly he's the guy that should win the Heisman Trophy.

3204
02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 12: Or if you want to get crazy, at least Jacob Rodriguez, like,

3205
02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:27,320
Speaker 12: at least mix it up.

3206
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that to me would still be he.

3207
02:22:29,720 --> 02:22:31,920
Speaker 2: Threw a couple of those iron ts though, right, Yeah,

3208
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:33,960
Speaker 2: that's where you gotta put him down. Then I gotta

3209
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:34,480
Speaker 2: put them down.

3210
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Put them quads, those quads, man.

3211
02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:42,160
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. The reason why, the reason

3212
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:44,720
Speaker 2: why Diego is not gonna win. This has to do

3213
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:47,120
Speaker 2: with the logo, but it's also his process off the field,

3214
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:50,080
Speaker 2: the way he knows himself off the field. It hurts

3215
02:22:50,120 --> 02:22:53,200
Speaker 2: him in this and that sucks to say it because

3216
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 2: it should only matter what you do in the field.

3217
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, Jack, Jack, who you got for the highest.

3218
02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza, man my highs and winners, hugging women in wheelchairs.

3219
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 9: The other guy flexing at USC yet again. So and

3220
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:11,200
Speaker 9: that good for him? I hope, I hope he has

3221
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:11,879
Speaker 9: a long pro.

3222
02:23:11,920 --> 02:23:15,120
Speaker 6: I wish we were at the UFC this but look

3223
02:23:16,280 --> 02:23:19,200
Speaker 6: there people are discrediting the rely Quest Bowl too, like

3224
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:21,920
Speaker 6: that's awesome for Vanderbilt, Like that's a huge game. So

3225
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:28,560
Speaker 6: congratulations toodores. Uh Tennessee's and the Music City Bowl.

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02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:34,120
Speaker 1: One Music City Bowl. Yeah, we got it for the

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02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:35,080
Speaker 1: game in.

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02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:38,280
Speaker 9: Ten years, which is great. It'll be fun, but you know,

3229
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 9: you guys, sucks for him.

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02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:44,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nebraska is about to beat Utah's ass in Vegas.

3231
02:23:44,480 --> 02:23:48,879
Speaker 1: Pre Nebraska making some moves now, are we going going

3232
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:54,400
Speaker 1: the coordinator? Yeah yeah, yeah, fired the old line coach

3233
02:23:54,440 --> 02:23:58,680
Speaker 1: they got in Uh old buddy from Georgia Tech who's

3234
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:00,000
Speaker 1: been known to have some good offensive line.

3235
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:03,720
Speaker 12: Did you guys see James Franklin hired Brent Prye.

3236
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:04,800
Speaker 1: Back as the defensive coordinator.

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02:24:04,959 --> 02:24:08,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, time he got fired, he was like emotional about

3238
02:24:08,200 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 12: it because they coached together before when he took the job.

3239
02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:12,360
Speaker 12: Franklin was emotional that they fired him because of what

3240
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:14,520
Speaker 12: he built there. So pretty cool that they brought him back.

3241
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and cool too that they have a good enough

3242
02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 1: relationship him in the school coach probably in the school

3243
02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:22,199
Speaker 1: that yeah, he's it was kind of probably an easy

3244
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:23,320
Speaker 1: transition for him to go back.

3245
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:26,720
Speaker 2: Dude, vaw Tech. I'll tell you what's gonna happen to

3246
02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Like h with Penn State, Like we're gonna look back

3247
02:24:29,959 --> 02:24:32,240
Speaker 2: in two three years with the signing, the class that

3248
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,640
Speaker 2: they've had with they sounded like two guys that stayed

3249
02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:36,760
Speaker 2: there in the hundreds. As far as recruiting class, they

3250
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 2: fell off a cliff. Virginia Tech took everybody. I can't

3251
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:41,560
Speaker 2: wait for three four years when those kids are seniors

3252
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,800
Speaker 2: and Penn State has found themselves back in the top

3253
02:24:43,879 --> 02:24:45,440
Speaker 2: twenty five. And how cool of the story it's going

3254
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 2: to be. What Matt Campbell has done with Penn State

3255
02:24:48,040 --> 02:24:50,400
Speaker 2: and resurrecting them because it's gonna be bumpy for a

3256
02:24:50,440 --> 02:24:52,200
Speaker 2: couple of years. Now, it's gonna be bumpy.

3257
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Speaker 1: That was a good hire though, yeah, knowing that they

3258
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:55,959
Speaker 1: were kind of botching the entire thing.

3259
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Speaker 2: Good hire. According to Josh Pate, do you.

3260
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 1: Have any more tear talks and then we can wrap.

3261
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:08,480
Speaker 1: I get featured on the show. Use hashtag t your talk.

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Speaker 1: This one is from John Zanaboni at Johnny Z ninety

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Speaker 1: three at Will Compton hashtag tear talk. Dear, no stra damas.

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Speaker 1: Now that your four year prophecy has come true with

3265
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:26,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs not making the playoffs, dynasty isn't over just

3266
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:29,680
Speaker 1: on the sabbatical. How many years will it be until

3267
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 1: your prediction of Nebraska making the college football playoffs? No,

3268
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:33,120
Speaker 1: here we go.

3269
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:40,120
Speaker 2: Look there's schedules is a juggernaut.

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Speaker 1: Next year, we got a tough schedule next year. Let

3271
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Speaker 1: all the blacksmiths, let all the common men know in

3272
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Speaker 1: the village we're looking at, uh.

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Speaker 7: Yourself quite yet?

3274
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Speaker 2: Ohio Bowling, Green, North Dakota, Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Washington, Illinois, Iowa,

3275
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Speaker 2: Michigan State, Oregon, Rutgers run.

3276
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough. I hear ears, you know

3277
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:12,200
Speaker 1: it'll probably be.

3278
02:26:12,400 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 2: No, this is not an order. They haven't set the

3279
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:15,440
Speaker 2: schedule yet. This is the teams they play.

3280
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Speaker 1: It'll be two years where we getting the college ball playoff,

3281
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:19,520
Speaker 1: because next year we'll go ten and two. We're gonna

3282
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:21,680
Speaker 1: get fuck somehow getting in the college football playoff based

3283
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:23,560
Speaker 1: on what just happened this year will probably the Vanderbilt

3284
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:24,480
Speaker 1: college football.

3285
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Speaker 2: Next year I goes so hard and then the next

3286
02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:30,080
Speaker 2: year will be our year. Can I give a prediction

3287
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:34,199
Speaker 2: for Michigan for Nebraska?

3288
02:26:34,400 --> 02:26:37,120
Speaker 1: Oh God, here we go eight and four incoming? Not

3289
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:39,280
Speaker 1: even maybe not even eight and four. Go ahead, Shit

3290
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Speaker 1: on us.

3291
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Speaker 2: I'm not just shutting on you guys.

3292
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 1: Shit on us. Dude, don't even know why I'm wearing

3293
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Speaker 1: these headphones.

3294
02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:49,440
Speaker 2: Still, Okay, Go up, go up, go up, go up,

3295
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:52,960
Speaker 2: go down, go down, go down, go down. Yeah. I

3296
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:59,680
Speaker 2: want twenty six. I want twenty six. A lot of

3297
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:04,600
Speaker 2: us marks with Nebraska's roster going into this offseason. Indiana,

3298
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:17,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State, go down, Oregon. Eight and four. Yeah, I

3299
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:21,920
Speaker 2: think eight and four is the floor for Nebraska. That's

3300
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,160
Speaker 2: the floor. Like as you look at Indiana. We gotta assume, right,

3301
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:29,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State's always a top dog Oregon and then to me,

3302
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:33,080
Speaker 2: it's like, well, Iowa, you have to at this point,

3303
02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:37,000
Speaker 2: it's like, bro until until they do, you gotta just assume.

3304
02:27:37,879 --> 02:27:40,440
Speaker 2: And so like, I think it's gonna be big if

3305
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:43,520
Speaker 2: you guys like Washington. Washington's a good ball club. Illinois,

3306
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:47,920
Speaker 2: they're a good ball club. That's true.

3307
02:27:47,959 --> 02:27:48,520
Speaker 1: That is true.

3308
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:52,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think eight and four, eight and four,

3309
02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:55,160
Speaker 2: and I think at the listen and I'm not even

3310
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:58,960
Speaker 2: fucking around. I want to be very serious, like that

3311
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:02,440
Speaker 2: is a hard funck schedule, right, I can see nine

3312
02:28:02,480 --> 02:28:06,000
Speaker 2: to three, but I feel like it's a most likely

3313
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 2: eight and four.

3314
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:08,120
Speaker 4: And is that?

3315
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel some type of way about me saying.

3316
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:12,560
Speaker 1: That I have no emotion? Okay, you talking about a brass.

3317
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Speaker 2: Good feel great?

3318
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:22,200
Speaker 1: You end on that tear talk? Did we hear? I'm

3319
02:28:22,200 --> 02:28:25,440
Speaker 1: assuming we kind of covered the tier talks you're scrolling through. Okay,

3320
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for tuning in. Big hugs, tiny kisses.

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Speaker 1: We will be dropping busting with the boys tomorrow with

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Speaker 1: Coach ed or Jerono. Kiss to see you tomorrow morning.

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