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Speaker 1: Hey, Va Fan, welcome to Brown Ambition. It's your girl,

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Speaker 1: Mandy Money. I am here with two incredible co hosts

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Speaker 2: Poper Brown Table, Jerry, I've never been more excited.

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Speaker 1: Let's make it or do y'all want to introduce yourselves? Alexa,

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Speaker 2: But that's okay, let's do this thing. I'm you're a veteran.

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Speaker 2: Now tell me exactly. I'm excited. I love this. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 2: my name is Alexa Claire Brooks Major. I work at

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Speaker 1: You're on a foursome. We had four we did.

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Speaker 2: That's why I was like, say for the three anyway, Mia, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: who are you? Who are you? Mia? Hi? It's me

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Speaker 2: and the Virgin. So excited. I am Mia Bradham Nolan. Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 2: so excited to be here. I I am a writer.

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Speaker 3: I work at Shondaland. By day, I am a member

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Speaker 3: a substack in Deep with Me, a breb of Nolan,

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Speaker 3: where I basically talk about pop culture, but it's not timely.

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Speaker 3: It's about what I'm passionate about. So like in the

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Speaker 3: Middle Summer, I write about like Queen Latifa and why

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Speaker 3: why can't we have our run of Queen Latifa rom

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Speaker 3: comms again, it's like, that's that's old news. But to

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Speaker 3: meet baby, it's it's new news. This is what I

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Speaker 2: That's just a little bit about me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you had a substack.

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Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yes, it's fun. We love you.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun time, Okay, wonderful. Well, y'all we made

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Speaker 1: Identify. I've all seen the tiktoks where it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's great. It's so safe, it's so safe for us.

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Speaker 2: We couldn't tell. You were literally like, your smile made

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Speaker 2: What's up, Mia, what's your name? Who were you, and

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Speaker 2: so we re viving because Mia has the most beautiful, energetic,

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Speaker 3: Mandy is someone that you look at and you literally

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Speaker 2: I want to be in her orbit. I want to

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Speaker 1: All the time I had the opposite of quiet gravity.

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Speaker 1: Pretend like my birthday is really starting next week. That's

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Speaker 2: You know, imagine y'all get a box saying, so live

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Speaker 1: I wore this lip color on purpose because y'all may

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. Melissa, my Detroit queen. Hold, I'm

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Speaker 1: Melissa Butler from the lip Bar. Yes, six Black Owned

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Speaker 2: Smelling New York karma is so bad. We have to

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Speaker 2: It's legit, it's great. Okay, I'm done.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I appreciate you calling that out. I

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Speaker 2: I will say, Beatrice Sticks and your owner no, well,

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Speaker 2: Sticks in the owner of the honeypop company did come

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Speaker 2: And that's really more so what I would love to

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Speaker 2: Let's go like I came up this incredible idea and

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Speaker 1: Heyba, fam, we got to take a quick break, pay

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Speaker 1: that they can't use here here, you know, whatever the

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Speaker 1: case may be. But I would like, I like when

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Speaker 1: founders are way more transparent and they're like, hey, so

432
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Speaker 1: look here. I don't want it to be some TikToker

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Speaker 1: who's like, did you see and then it's zooming in

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Speaker 1: on the ingredient list and it's like a whole expos

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Speaker 1: I think that's really stupid if companies let a TikToker

436
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Speaker 1: or a blogger or whoever unveil something, because then it

437
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Speaker 1: looks like you're trying to get the you know, like

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Speaker 1: pull the wool over our eyes a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: I think transparency like tell us why, like, don't underestimate

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Speaker 1: the intelligence of your consumer that we care about that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, and like tell us, why would that

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Speaker 1: feel better to you if there was like a conversation

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Speaker 1: and they could explain.

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Speaker 2: It, would it absolutely was. I feel like a lot

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Speaker 2: of many founders not all of course, don't speak until

446
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Speaker 2: there's backlash and it's like, let's get ahead of it, please,

447
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: because you know we're going to talk about it. You know,

448
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Speaker 2: we finn to talk about it. So I think that

449
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Speaker 2: would absolutely be a great way to handle it. For sure.

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Speaker 3: Think I'm I'm always say I'm not the smartest one

451
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Speaker 3: in the room. I like to surround myself with people

452
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Speaker 3: who are smarter than me. But I think my gift

453
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Speaker 3: is like cultural analysis and critique, and I don't have

454
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Speaker 3: the answers to those questions. I think they're good questions,

455
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Speaker 3: but I think for me, this opens an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: talk about like a bigger symptom of this conversation, which

457
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: is just that people are scared. We're scared about what's

458
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Speaker 3: in our products, what things are being made with, especially

459
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Speaker 3: for black people, because of our relationship with the medical

460
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Speaker 3: system and with health and wellness. I mean just history

461
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: centuries of this, and so I think obviously it's a

462
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Speaker 3: symptom of a bigger problem, which is that we need

463
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Speaker 3: more brands that we can trust. And you know, since

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Speaker 3: we're talking about black businesses and it's Black Business Month,

465
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Speaker 3: I think it's just this is a right for conversation

466
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Speaker 3: and for anyone who's listening, who wants to start a business,

467
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Speaker 3: who wants to research, you know, what are.

468
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Speaker 2: Products I can make?

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Speaker 3: What are like baby products I can make, or products

470
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Speaker 3: for mothers, or products for young children, or any of

471
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Speaker 3: us all of us beauty products for black women who

472
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Speaker 3: want to feel good in their own skin. Like it's

473
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Speaker 3: never too late to start a business. It's never too

474
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Speaker 3: late to start something because we need this space is

475
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Speaker 3: not too crowded, Like we need things that.

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Speaker 1: We can trust. I know everybody needs to hear that

477
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Speaker 1: right now. I was just at an event and like

478
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Speaker 1: I did a whole panel on podcasting, and you always

479
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: get the question are there too many podcasts? Like and

480
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, listen, tomorrow, somebody is going to come

481
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Speaker 1: out with the podcast that is the biggest thing in

482
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Speaker 1: you know, it's going to blow away everybody and it

483
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Speaker 1: will not have existed, And like that could be anybody

484
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Speaker 1: if you just try, and it is. It's like that

485
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Speaker 1: whole analogy of like go to the supermarket and look

486
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Speaker 1: how many types of bread there are? Come on now,

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Speaker 1: Like I was more than happy to introduce the Dave's

488
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Speaker 1: Killer Bread to my pantry. When I saw it, I

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Speaker 1: was like, ooh, they make a bagel now, okay, period,

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Speaker 1: that's that? On that all right, well thanks for that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would. I think it's really important that, especially during

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Speaker 1: Black Business Month. And one last thing on that on

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Speaker 1: my part is I just want to say, don't underestimate

494
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Speaker 1: the power of getting acquired when it comes to when

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Speaker 1: they when black women are able to generate that level

496
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Speaker 1: of wealth when we are. When our companies get acquired,

497
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Speaker 1: you have this huge windfall, You get all this stock.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a huge earning opportunity. But like, without fail,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've met a single black female founder

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Speaker 1: who's had an IPO or well there's not many IBOs,

501
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Speaker 1: but has been acquired and then hasn't turned around and

502
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Speaker 1: created a fund so that they can seed black owned

503
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Speaker 1: female businesses. So Monique has done that. From Mayel, I know,

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Speaker 1: we have we have Arlen Hamilton, like there are There

505
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Speaker 1: are several examples Stacy philpop Brown, who I interviewed back

506
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Speaker 1: when she was a CEO of Task Grab It, and

507
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Speaker 1: I think she had gone on to I forget where now,

508
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: but she has a venture capital firm now that she runs.

509
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Speaker 1: So maybe we don't love the like it's not the

510
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Speaker 1: perfect ideal way that we would be creating black wealth

511
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Speaker 1: and it's all black and be black by black, But

512
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Speaker 1: it's really about like, when we get us in positions

513
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Speaker 1: of power, more often than not, we are turning around

514
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Speaker 1: and lifting the community up with us. And I think

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Speaker 1: that that's worth something to you. Priscenian. Well, let's talk

516
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Speaker 1: about my favorite topic, which is jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know, but I do career coaching.

518
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Speaker 1: I have the podcast, of course, but I've been a

519
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Speaker 1: career coach for years now. I think the last time

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Speaker 1: we got drinks right before an event, Like we were

521
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Speaker 1: lots of me who got together. We were getting drinks

522
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Speaker 1: and I think I forget which one. I think it

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Speaker 1: was me. I was kind of lightly trying to get

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Speaker 1: some negotiations. Yes, without revealing that this is what I'm

525
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Speaker 1: obsessed about at US all the time. Is amazing. But

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Speaker 1: I have I have a one on one coaching program.

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Speaker 1: It's very small. I only have a couple of women

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Speaker 1: in it right now. It's like twelve weeks. And the

529
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Speaker 1: something that I'm working with are so freaking talented, resumes stacked,

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Speaker 1: experience stacked. I would even say their network is decent,

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Speaker 1: you know, their their personal relationships. Still, they are struggling

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Speaker 1: to find work. And I just want to use them

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Speaker 1: as an example because New Jobs Report came out on Friday,

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Speaker 1: and the job support itself, this is like the Big

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Speaker 1: eight Department of Labor comes out once a month and

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Speaker 1: says how many jobs did American companies add? Which is important,

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Speaker 1: right because if they're not adding jobs, people are not

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Speaker 1: getting jobs, and you know, the economy could be going down.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't just the fact that there was such

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Speaker 1: a low number of jobs added. It was only like

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Speaker 1: seventy three thousand jobs, which I think we're all used

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Speaker 1: to seeing numbers like two hundred three hundred thousand month

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Speaker 1: over month. It wasn't just that jobs were so low

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Speaker 1: in July. It was that the numbers for May and

545
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Speaker 1: June were cut. So they went back to May and

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Speaker 1: June and said, oh oops, we overestimated how many jobs.

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Speaker 1: So actually, for the past three months we've been hemorrhaging

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of jobs. They took two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand jobs off of the May and June payrolls.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, unemployment is ticking up, and big

551
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: baby big Baby Orange in chief, of course, turns around

552
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Speaker 1: and decides he doesn't like I don't like those numbers. Mmmm,

553
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: throw away the person who said the words. He throws

554
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Speaker 1: a hissy fit, fires the analyst in charge of coming

555
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: up with the data using the formulas that have been

556
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Speaker 1: used under multiple administrations. But the point is, like, the

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00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: job market is tough, and when I say tough, I

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Speaker 1: mean tough. There are not a lot of new jobs

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Speaker 1: being added. And on top of that, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the seventy three thousand, like which sector is actually giving,

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Speaker 1: which sector is actually the bulk of those seventy three

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Speaker 1: thousand jobs healthcare is like fifty is like fifty five

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Speaker 1: thousand of those seventy five thousand jobs are healthcare. So

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Speaker 1: if you take away healthcare, like we're not, it's rough

565
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: like places are not hiring. You're still seeing like big

566
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Speaker 1: companies layoff like thousands of people and getting all that news.

567
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Speaker 1: But I think, and I think what's more damaging is

568
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Speaker 1: not that we're having these sweeping layoffs. I think it's

569
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Speaker 1: just the fact that companies are not hiring. They are

570
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: just choosing. Not if you're getting fired, you're getting let go.

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00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: They're not running out and replacing those roles. So it's

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Speaker 1: just created a really difficult job market. And just to

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Speaker 1: go back to what I originally said, my two Mandy

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Speaker 1: money makers who are like again resume stacked, great experience,

575
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: super talent, I think that they represent a lot of

576
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: the frustration if you're in the if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a job right now, or you're unemployed right now, Like

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Speaker 1: I just want to encourage you to keep going and

579
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Speaker 1: to understand that it's going to take a while, very

580
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Speaker 1: likely it's going to take a while, and to not

581
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Speaker 1: let yourself get too disheartened by what's happening. At least

582
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: feel that you're not alone, because it's tough. I would

583
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Speaker 1: not want to be out there looking for although sometimes

584
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: I should. I feel like I should because entrepreneurship's hard.

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00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, oh, paycheck will be nice, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: any thoughts, y'all.

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Speaker 2: It's just honestly, when we stop demonizing the gig economy,

588
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: because I feel like so many people are like, well,

589
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Speaker 2: i'm thirty something, I'm forty something. I shouldn't be doing

590
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: side gigs. I should only be doing full time and

591
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: of course, naturally you deserve, of course, but also what

592
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: makes it so challenging is the lack of integrity. We

593
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: ascribe two gig jobs right, We're like, well, that's not

594
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Speaker 2: really a work. It's like, well, if it's helping you

595
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: get like pay your bills and feed you and make

596
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Speaker 2: things happen, I think that we need to say, hey, actually,

597
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Speaker 2: it's a good thing that we have this right now.

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Speaker 2: Not that it should be, you know, the final thing

599
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Speaker 2: that you rely on, of course, but I think what

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Speaker 2: it's part of making the hold because I was unemployed

601
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Speaker 2: for two years myself, and what was part of making

602
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Speaker 2: that making what part of the part that made that

603
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Speaker 2: so difficult for me, especially as a social person that

604
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Speaker 2: I am, is being these conversations with my friends or

605
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Speaker 2: with strangers even and feeling as though I wasn't enough

606
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Speaker 2: because I didn't have the big name job or a

607
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Speaker 2: full time job, and oh I have to work three

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Speaker 2: different gigs at the same time and try and make

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Speaker 2: this happen, and try and get this contractor to like

610
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Speaker 2: you know whatever, to get paid on time with the invoices.

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Speaker 2: Like all of that was just really draining on me

612
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Speaker 2: so much, And it would have helped so much if

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Speaker 2: someone had just been like, hey, work is work.

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Speaker 4: Work is work. That's it. Like let's let's gin let's

615
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: light some honor on that as well. And it's not

616
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Speaker 4: to say that like, just get a gay job, you'll

617
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: be fine. I understand that that is not ideal either.

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Speaker 4: People have mouths to feed in their homes and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: But just ascribing a certain level of integrity to that

620
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Speaker 4: work as well, it's what I'm really trying to get at.

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Speaker 3: My dad used to always growing up, piece to be

622
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: like there's a McDonald's in every city, you know, and

623
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: that's like obvious, Like you said, not the answer. But

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, especially in this world today, but there's something

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00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: about you know you can you can build. Continue to

626
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: build your brand, continue to build your resume, continue to

627
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: build your portfolio, keep doing the things that nourish you

628
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: and feed into your career so when the time comes,

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Speaker 3: you're going to be front center ready. And also I

630
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: think some of the like I love, I worked in college.

631
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: I worked at a career center for four years, so

632
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: I love this stuff as well. Mandy about jobs.

633
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: In college, it's so it was.

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Speaker 3: It was the best job of my life. Like I

635
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: still I'm just like I love it so much. I

636
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: go back and visit and I visit all of them.

637
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: But I learned so much. And I think still some

638
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: of the tactics for job search, even though it's a

639
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: terrible market right now, it still holds, which is like

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00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: you can really rely on like I think in person meetups,

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Speaker 3: in person connections.

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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: It could be loose ties. But I think the internet

643
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Speaker 2: it's getting worse and worse.

644
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Like every time, like there's a job that pops up

645
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: and you click it, it's like this job's been taken down.

646
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: You can't even apply or like you know, it's just.

647
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: A tibition summer intern, I mean fall intern, which is

648
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: literally an internship for college kids. I got three hundred

649
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: applications in like ten days, And was that hard for

650
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: college kids? Was that hard for you to go through

651
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: all of that? I haven't even I went through like

652
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: twenty and I'm like, oh god, I need help to

653
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: go through so many.

654
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: And probably the ones that were flagged to you by

655
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: certain people. If someone said, hey, I know someone who's

656
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: good for this, Like I think people just be nice,

657
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 3: always be marketing yourself. Be like I'm looking for a job.

658
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: Don't give up.

659
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Tell everybody you come across like I'm looking for a job.

660
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: If you are a rare person like Shondaland has job

661
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: positions right now, Like if you are a rare person

662
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: who's at a job where there are job openings, who's

663
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: also hing you know, you should also be like, hey,

664
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: guess what we're hiring, Like send out a blast on

665
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Facebook or LinkedIn and just be vocal. Really really help

666
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: your peers right now. And I think someone being able

667
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: to put a word in for you or to just

668
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: even forward a resume, I think is really really helpful

669
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: right now, especially when there's like so few openings.

670
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. And I think that even

671
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: speaks to like just the power of the community and

672
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: being able to tell those around you, hey, like this

673
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: is what I'm really good at, that's what I want

674
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: to do, just talking to the people. There were so

675
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: many of my own friends who were like, dang, I

676
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: didn't know you were actually doing this. That and the third,

677
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: if I had known that, I could have pushed your

678
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: resume over to this person that I know. I'm like,

679
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: I was so busy in my shame that I couldn't

680
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: talk about it. I didn't have compassion towards myself to

681
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: be able to be in that growth mindset. And I

682
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: just know that that's where so many of these people stand.

683
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: What they're feeling is like this shame on themselves of

684
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: like I got to take this gig, or oh I

685
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: don't have it, I don't know how I'm going to

686
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: pay this, or oh my kid needs this, but how

687
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: am I going to make it happen? Like, once you

688
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: get into that growth mindset of being able to practice

689
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: that kind of self compassion towards yourself, that's when the

690
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: ideas flow. That's when you're able to go out and

691
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: be with the people and start talking and saying, hey,

692
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: this is what I do, this is what I'm interested in.

693
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a position. This is just getting it

694
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: out there to plant the seeds. Staying in the house

695
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: and lamenting so too long it keeps this negative cycle going.

696
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: Of course, you need to feel your feelings and you know,

697
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: lament for a little bit, but then it's time to

698
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: get in the lab, you know, and get get craft.

699
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely I agree with you, Nia one hundred percent.

700
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: And you need that community to encourage you to do

701
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: that stuff to like still be creating, like I mean, Nia,

702
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I love that you have a substack, Alexa. I know

703
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: you have projects here. We have your travel influencer. Bad

704
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: going right is that they get that wrong travel right now?

705
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: No, you got it absolutely travel at my website Moments

706
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: of alexiclare dot com.

707
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Yes all. And I just always, I think because I

708
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: was always craving like max stimulation, just dopamine, just searching

709
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: for those hits. So for me, I was like, okay,

710
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: working as cool, but like, I want to do this

711
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: on the side, I want to have a podcast, I

712
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: want to have this blog and like and it helped

713
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: so much because no matter what you're reinforcing that you

714
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: can create something and do something. And so, you know,

715
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm working on with my

716
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: makers is continuing to do the thing that they want

717
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: to do and actually share it. And sometimes there's a

718
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: feeling of like, well, if I don't do it in

719
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a you know, for an employer or as part of

720
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a you know company or a paid gig or something,

721
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: that it doesn't count as work or like work products.

722
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh no, Like, continue keep demonstrating your excellence.

723
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: You can do a free workshop for you know, college students.

724
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: You can you can go you can go back to

725
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: your college alma mater and like do a talk. You

726
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: can you can do a virtual zoom. Who cares if

727
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: five people come show up, that's still five people. It

728
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can still say I taught my thing,

729
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: I taught my project management skills, I taught you know,

730
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: and put that on your resume or in your cover letter,

731
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: and just don't be stale. You don't want that Like

732
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: there's a there's a staleness, there's a stale air around

733
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: unemployment that can settle and it can be stifling to you,

734
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: but it can also be completely like a turnoff it

735
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: sounds so up and it's but it's true. It can

736
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: turn off a hiring manager if you come with the

737
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: stale energy of like, oh, I haven't you know it's

738
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: been a while, I'm superdup. You know, here's my resume.

739
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: So it's just so stack with it. For the first

740
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: last year, I haven't really been doing much. It's been tough,

741
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Like you don't want to bring that that energy with you.

742
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: And so that's why I agree with what y'all are

743
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: both saying, and I would say double those efforts to

744
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: start sowing seeds, even if it's a brand new relationship,

745
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: like we just became friends, y'all less than what five

746
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I forget, less than six months ago. And this feels

747
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: like like who knows what opportunities we may you know,

748
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: have for one another, Like y'all are on my podcast

749
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: yay talking about your blog and stuff like there you go.

750
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's considered like some fruit, not that it felt

751
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: like transactional, but you never know where those relationships are

752
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: going to end. And I would say people get overwhelmed

753
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: by like how am I going to meet new people?

754
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Or how I'm what I'm going to a networking event,

755
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: and like I have to get everything I want accomplished

756
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: in this one conversation with this one person. But it

757
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: can just be a tiny seed and then you just

758
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: like try to water it over months and months. It

759
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: takes time, but you have to be like deliberate, intentional

760
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: and try to keep that mindset right, which I know

761
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: is easier said than done, because the way this mind

762
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: is set up to hold us back is booby trapped.

763
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Booby trapped.

764
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: But ye have said that better, Well, I will need it.

765
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: But y'all seem to both have like a lot of compassion,

766
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: which is like, at the end of the day, we

767
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: all need to have so much compassion for every for

768
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: everything that we're all going through.

769
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Yes each other, ourselves. It's hard.

770
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: Well, miss me, I know you have a hard stop

771
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: for a fun reason. But since you're are pop culture girly,

772
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: is there anything like pop culture wise that's getting you excited?

773
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Is it Nicolandria like me? Because they still have me in.

774
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: All gosh, I goodness, this is a good question. And

775
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

776
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm really tired right now. I'm really

777
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: I want something juicy. There's this writer Haley Nauman, and

778
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: she always writes about like the death of sex. And

779
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm not talking about sex sex. I'm talking

780
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: about like we live through a lot of eras in

781
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 3: our lifetime where things are just like sexy, like they're edgy,

782
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: there's nuance, there's like depth, there's like intrigue, and now

783
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: it just seems like everything is flat, like it's just

784
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 3: like this thing happened, Let's make it a headline.

785
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: This thing happened, Let's make it a headline.

786
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: And so I'm feeling a little bit of that, Like

787
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: I'm feeling a little bit bored by publicas.

788
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: Do not watch Love Island.

789
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: I did, and I was a little bit bored. I

790
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: also could not keep up. I didn't. I didn't fully,

791
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: I was like a little bit behind.

792
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I think it wastick of me talking about it, really.

793
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: Mommy, mamacita, I mean that had me by the neck.

794
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: That didn't have with Andrea. It's the couple, it's the Alexa. Yes, no,

795
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: are we are we? Nicolandria Hive.

796
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm on Love is Blind Girl, not Loveland.

797
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm like I need to get for y'all.

798
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, sorry for us, but you know what's

799
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: crazy and maybe You're right to a certain extent, Mia,

800
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: But I was reading about have y'all are y'all into

801
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: fan fiction? Reading it? I used to write really bad

802
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: fan fiction as a teenager.

803
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: Tumblr was the peak of my life. Pa mm hmm.

804
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: I was a huge behind. I would write on what

805
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: pad and I would and I would read constantly.

806
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Also, I was calling it what.

807
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: What? What? What was I calling it? What did I

808
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: call it? What? I'm sorry? What Pad? Yeah?

809
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: I would, but no, you tell me because I'm new

810
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: to it. I only got this really really really, I'm

811
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: like blushing. I'm so embarrassed. I am reading Love Island

812
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: fan uh on what Pad? Which?

813
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: What Pad?

814
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Which I had never heard of before? But apparently it's

815
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: like that girl now.

816
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: For Yeah, okay, so I will say I'm careful about

817
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: where I say that I read what pad now because

818
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: growing up like middle school, high school era, it was

819
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: very just like cute see oh yeah, I want to

820
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: know more about what happens into Finelight, like can we

821
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: get some other versions of this? Or like there's this

822
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: really great movie I watched now what the characters to

823
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: continue on what happens and someone else takes it on

824
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: or they'll just do their own original work, which is

825
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: great and I love that. Now, unfortunately it has very

826
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: much become uh likened to all the like dirty reads

827
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: and like the three four five Chili Peppers and whatnot.

828
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Working on care fun Yeah my money Now it's because

829
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: it's not romance, Mandy, It's not it's not romance. This

830
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: is this is yeah, this is other stuff that now

831
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: what has been like likened to where I'm like, no,

832
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: there's still the good stuff. And there's like still like

833
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: the good, feel good stuff in there where you can

834
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: find stuff that makes you like kick your feet and

835
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: tiki he like in the Galandria fan thing.

836
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: Yes, there's really well done. I wish I'm getting new

837
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: to it. I'm not paying for it, so I will

838
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: say the ads drive me insane, especially now, like get

839
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: out of here, you know, but it is it's making

840
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: me feel like I get that kid feeling, I get

841
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: that teenager feeling a little bit, but I'm people making money,

842
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: you know how. It's like fifty Shades of Gray used

843
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: to be it was like a Twilight fanfick. So I

844
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: was reading that from wattpad. There is this. There's been

845
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: a couple of projects. There's been the Kissing Booth on Netflix,

846
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: which I haven't read. I haven't watched that was here,

847
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: not of fanfic. There's also oh Ana Todd's After, which

848
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: was a one direction Harry styles like Zanfit, but the

849
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: book it got turned into a book published by Simon

850
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: and Schuster twenty fourteen, and then it became a movie

851
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: with four sequels. Clearly, I'm not the target demo because

852
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen this. Four Secrets racked up one

853
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight million dollars worldwide.

854
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: You see, this is what I say. If you have

855
00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: an idea, go for it, go for it. Apparently, come on,

856
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: this is how so I've been. I'm a huge fantasy

857
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: girl like reader, like I've been really into like Akatar

858
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Sarah J. Mass. If anyone knows, if you know, you know,

859
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: but Sarah J. Mass has written a Tatar which is

860
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: like Quarter of Thorns and Thorns and Roses series. Yes, yeah, okay, okay,

861
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: as well as Thrown Up Glass. But actually it's it's well,

862
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: it's actually not it's ya. They don't get to I

863
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: mean until silver Flame.

864
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: Silver Flame is a little smutty but otherwise not very No.

865
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: A s caliente'ta no, because it's it's literally classified as

866
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: a young adult novel, like they can't go crazy, gotcha, gotcha?

867
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: But a guitar thrown of glass. All the things are

868
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: thrown of glass, which is like her Ultimate Like series.

869
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: Anyone reads that and they just know they're never gonna

870
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 2: they're never gonna find a book like it ever again.

871
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: But she had started that when she was sixteen on

872
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: a site similar to what pad, and that's when it

873
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: took loss from there, which she got a deal took

874
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: it off of that website, and now it is I

875
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: think they have like a Hulu deal or a Prime

876
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: Video deal for a movie now. But yeah, that book

877
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: has been going since I was in high school. Like

878
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: that book has gone crazy. So I'm saying I say

879
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 2: that just to say, if you have an idea, write it.

880
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: There's editing that can happen later. All the professionals can

881
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: take a look at it and make it perfect for

882
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: whatever you need it to be. But just get the

883
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: idea out there.

884
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh, just get it out there, and also just have fun,

885
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: like just to be creating. That used to be a

886
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: real outlet for me as a kid, was writing stories.

887
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I would write my own stories and I would write

888
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: some fan fiction. I used to edit my brother's Harry

889
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Potter fan fiction and try to pretend like I also

890
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: wasn't writing it because I was so embarrassed. I was

891
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: so shy about it.

892
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: But I waterhouse.

893
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: My house I think is Hufflepuff. It's been a while

894
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: long time. I think for sure i'd be a Slitherin today,

895
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: way more I think I was. I think I'm way

896
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: more honest about who I am and where I want.

897
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I think get they get a bad rap, but I

898
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: think that there is I think that.

899
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: Most of my girlfriends are Slytherin's very especially since I'm mom.

900
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: There's not much I'm doing just to be brave just

901
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: because I got kid, you know what I mean. I

902
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: think all moms would be Slytherin like we want, we

903
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: have to strive. But no, I'm not risking my neck

904
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: for any just anybody, because my children need me, you know, period.

905
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: But shout out to watpad and the fandom lore, Like,

906
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: if you have a favoritef you're part of some fandom.

907
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. We need some wtpod

908
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Wtpad billionaires to come forth, all right, the a fan.

909
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and be right back.

910
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Then I do brown Boost Brown Break stick around. All right, y'all,

911
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: are y'all ready for a little brown Boost brown break action.

912
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: I will go first since it's my party, and I

913
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: then put y'all in the hot seat too much. I'm

914
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: gonna do a quick I love this sum I this

915
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: this TikTok trend where it's like it's usually a woman

916
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and usually behind her is like her partner, her husband.

917
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know whatever, there there there,

918
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: their man is behind them, and it's usually a woman

919
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: and she's like very aggressive and she's like, Hey, this

920
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: is Paul. This is my husband, Paul. He's going to

921
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: show you the tomato he just grew in the garden.

922
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: You better be impressed. He worked really hard. So it's

923
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: like you're kind of threatening the audience, Like you better

924
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: listen to him, and you better like it. And it's

925
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: so cute. It's so damn cute. I like, low key

926
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: wanted to do one for my husband, but he's way

927
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: too shy. But there's this I saw this on blavity.

928
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: It's the story of a black owned food delivery app

929
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that has now gone viral and is more popular than

930
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Uber eats. And competitors in the app store because his

931
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: sister did one of these, like TikTok trends for him.

932
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: So the I want to shout out this new food

933
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: delivery it's also it sounds hell acute. So his name

934
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: is Lucius Daniel the Okay and he founded byte Site,

935
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: b Ite Site sig ht so. It's a mashup of

936
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: TikTok and door dash so and it offers over one

937
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dishes to customers. But the cutest

938
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: thing is like, instead of shopping based on the restaurant,

939
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: like I think what you happen to, you scroll through

940
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: and you see TikTok videos of the food and then

941
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: you can say I want that and they will and

942
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: like somehow you get the food delivered to you. Who

943
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: knows how the mechanics happened. But he built this app

944
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: from scratch and his sister Kendall is the one who

945
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: who did the video. So shout out to his sister

946
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: Kendall good kindle or given her brother some shine because

947
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: now he has one of the most popular food delivery

948
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: apps in the in the app store.

949
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: I hope she gets a cut put put her in there.

950
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: That's amazing taking cuts, but yeah, probably should get a

951
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: cut one day, should get a cut. This is why

952
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: you need to have contracts in place before you do

953
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: your marketing.

954
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 2: You know, that's amazing. What a good idea for an app.

955
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: That's actually I didn't think of it. I'm mad I

956
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: didn't think of it.

957
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: The name is so good bite site. I just got

958
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: it now, please, that's so good. So now he's number

959
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: He was number six on Apple's food and Drink top chart,

960
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: ahead of Uber Eats, Domino's, Instacart, Subway, Chipotle come on now,

961
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: and they've also And at this point he's gotten one

962
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: point five million dollars in seed funding from some venture

963
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: capitalists like hy Combinator, has a big one search point capital,

964
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: so he is not playing around. He is here to win.

965
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: This could be. I mean, we were just talking about

966
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: black owned brands not going ip. We need an app,

967
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: we need a tech business. Just put an AI on

968
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: that shit like, let's get you a billion bucks late man,

969
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, Alexa, I know you got a jump,

970
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: so do you want to go next?

971
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: This is truly what I've been ranting about lately. But

972
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: just any and everyone that would listen, I have been

973
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: rewatching Pose. I don't know if either of you are

974
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: familiar with the show Pose, but it is about the

975
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: trans community circa nineteen eighties nineteen nineties in the New

976
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: York and it features all kinds of mega huge names.

977
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: It is created by us for us. Everyone was a

978
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: part of the writer's team is LGBTQ largely on that

979
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: tea side, which we love. And so I've been rewatching

980
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: this with my roommate and there was a scene we

981
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: were I'm on the episode now where Pray tell his

982
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: character this black gay man in his forties who has

983
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: HIV AIDS and it has since developed into like an

984
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: AIDS type of lymphoma. It's really serious what he has.

985
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: And so he goes back to his hometown but she

986
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: left because he had unfortunately, he just had a lot

987
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: of unfortunate experiences. I want to be mindful of like

988
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: what our audience's triggers might be, but he had some

989
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: unfortunate experiences there and you can imagine and what they were. Uh.

990
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: And he goes back and you know, rekindles some things

991
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: to certain people, develops, like re strengthens his relationship with

992
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: his mother and whatnot. But oh my goodness, this, this

993
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: the challenge between his mother and him are what really

994
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: just got to me because she just kept saying, you

995
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: were fine, you were fine, you were healthy, you were

996
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: such a great singer, you were such a part of

997
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: a community, you were in the church, all the things.

998
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: He's like, Mother, I was being hurt every day and

999
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: I was telling you, and you didn't believe me. You

1000
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: knew it was happening, and you just you just let

1001
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: it be. You just let it happen. This commitment to

1002
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: delusion that people have to get them through these these

1003
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: these moments that they don't know how to handle, that

1004
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: they don't know how to how to how to work through.

1005
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is I was crying so hard

1006
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: at that scene, because this is your child telling you

1007
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: I was being hurt and I came to you and

1008
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: you said, I don't believe you. And and still to

1009
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: this day as an adult, as an adult, he comes

1010
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: to her and he talks with her, and she has

1011
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: to make it about herself. So just comfort her with me.

1012
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: He's like, that's where I was hurt. It's all of this.

1013
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: It's this commitment to delusion over things that especially hurt

1014
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: those we claim to love. That for me just it

1015
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: grinds my gears. I have been rancy about it and

1016
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: non stop. That is what I have to share. And

1017
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: it wasn't so much just about that, like deep topics, right,

1018
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: it can be about anything, just commitment to delusion, about anything.

1019
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: When those around me are telling you, hey, actually this

1020
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: makes me feel this way, and that person is still like, well, Ladie, da,

1021
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: like it's fine. If you think about this Saturday the third,

1022
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: it'll be fine. Don't look at what's right in front

1023
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: of you. I don't understand that, and I will never

1024
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: understand that because community is so important to me, and

1025
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: I yeah, even though delusion is comfortable, it, community requires discomfort.

1026
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: It requires it.

1027
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: As someone I've I've been on the receiving end of that,

1028
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: and even if it's small, like it's so infuriating to

1029
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: not be believed for your experience that you're telling themone

1030
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: how it made you feel, but because they can't fathom

1031
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: feeling that way, or they don't or it's inconvenient to

1032
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: them that you felt bad, like they can't accept it,

1033
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: and like that's I can't think of there's it's just

1034
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: one of the most damaging toxic actions you can or

1035
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: almost like a it's like an act of violence, a

1036
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: little bit like against a person. It really is you

1037
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: do you're damaging someone, like you're you're inflicting an injury

1038
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: on someone when you say to them that, oh, you

1039
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: felt this way. I don't see or acknowledge or empathize

1040
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: or you know, acknowledge or validate that in any way.

1041
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: You ignore their pain, and it is like it's damaging them.

1042
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: It's very hurtful.

1043
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: So I then turn around and say, I love you

1044
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: so much, but I love you. Don't do that. Don't

1045
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: do thanks for listening to hear.

1046
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: If I can't, I'm holds the the gen z hearts,

1047
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: I can't. I what the helly figuring out how the

1048
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: hell to do this?

1049
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like it's the Korean, like the k the

1050
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: k Drop, Yeah, the Italian?

1051
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: This is the this is the Italian. Okay, it's I

1052
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: can't that's my I would do a bonus break just

1053
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: to say that I hate that.

1054
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: I will never be invited again.

1055
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: All I missed me and not Abraham Nolan.

1056
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: Okay, it's me the virgin not anymore. I don't know.

1057
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1058
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Can I was it good for you?

1059
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: It was so great? Could do it again. I would

1060
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: highly recommend do it again again.

1061
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, you were like, I'm going to come and go

1062
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: as I please.

1063
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, wow, you know, not that bad, really

1064
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: not that bad. Okay.

1065
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 3: My rent is about PR relationships. Uh, I'm a little

1066
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: over it. You know how I talked about things being

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: a little bit like sexless. It feels like PR relationships

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00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: are there used to be something juicy about them, Like

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: it used to be like like the Notebook, like Rachel

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00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: McAdams and Ryan Gosling and like like the first time

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00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 3: Jay Loin been got together, which was totally PR.

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Speaker 2: It's like and now it's like we're really doing Pamela

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00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: Anderson and Liam Neeson and we know it's because and

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00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: that's why I'm like, and I'm like, oh, we're all

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Speaker 2: falling for it.

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00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm still not going to go see

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00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: their movie, but it's.

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Speaker 3: I have heard it's a great movie, but I'm like,

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00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: do we not see? But one thing I will say

1080
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: that I love about it is that we should we

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00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 3: need representation, Like there should be like an older couple

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00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: who's living their lives and we're we're following their romance

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00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: and we love it. I also, I just if it

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: was anybody else, I'd be okay with it. But the

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00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: fact that's Liam and you said, I'm like, do you

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00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: forget that he went on a racist rant about how

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 3: he wanted to kill a black man.

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00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, we're all forgetting that. Everyone's like, I'm so.

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: Happy I actually did forget it. Thanks for bringing it

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Speaker 1: back on earth.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I'm like, everyone's like, we love this PR. We sorry,

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: we love this relationship. I'm like, I don't know. I can't.

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00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: I can't get behind it. I can't be happy. I'm

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00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: a terrible person. Wow, But I just I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if we're gonna keep doing PR relationships, let's

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Speaker 3: I can't think of the last good one?

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Speaker 2: What are some?

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00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: Are there any bad ones besides that one? Are you

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00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: gonna say, tommin Zindaia, they're not a piano. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to think of other kinds.

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00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 3: I don't think they are. And if it started as one,

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it is, well.

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00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: Then you need to get into love island lore. So

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: here's how you can do it.

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: Here's how you think those are some PR relationships too.

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00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: Absolute Except for Nicolandria, I will defend them to the

1107
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: move the delusion. I don't care. It feels too good,

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00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: but it's it's real.

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 3: I didn't like them both. I did like them. I

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: don't really know the story of how they ended up

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00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: because I stopped.

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: Why are you denying yourself? You probably got because it

1113
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: was boring as hell, but then way through it starts

1114
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: to turn, and then the last week it really turns.

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00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: So what you need to do is just go watch.

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: This is my tactic, because who has time to watch

1117
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 1: an hour every day? Two hours? Sometimes I would watch

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: the recap from last week, fast forward to the last

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: ten minutes and watch that, and if it felt like

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: I missed something important, the recap from the following week

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00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: would just cover it, you know what I mean. And

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: that is how I got through tons of episodes very quickly.

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00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: And then there's plenty of this tactic. Yeah, and you

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: get to listen to the Irish guy or whatever, he's

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: Scottish or whatever and in whatever last week you know,

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00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: in the villa, and then it's great. It's the best.

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00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: I've been doing that ever since my husband, my husband,

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Speaker 1: my cousin got me hooked on UK back during the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

1130
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: But that's serious. They would have they would go for

1131
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: weeks and weeks they would be on air for I

1132
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: think I there were some Hulu seasons where it was

1133
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: like sixty something episode, there's no way in hades, No,

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00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: I got kids, I Got live.

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: You literally have to start and be committed.

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: Like I think, if you really get into it from

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 3: the very beginning, you can do it.

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00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Skip all. I'm seeing bits all that ship now, but

1139
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying that you should because there is I think

1140
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: it's a dumb debate because obviously they are the real

1141
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: real but it's very which relationships have seemed real and

1142
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: are now falling apart? And Nicolandria has to the test

1143
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: of time. It's been there. It's been three weeks. But yes.

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00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: They slack it.

1145
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah together. But then there was like the couple from

1146
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: last season, Jenney and Kenny. There's all this drama like

1147
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: that was that for him? It was a pr yeah

1148
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: for her to witness so you do, okay, so you

1149
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: have clocked that. Yeah, very sad, but she got there

1150
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: like that woman's power because the way that he everybody

1151
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: unfollowed him, Like does she mass email the entire crew?

1152
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what happened, and I'm here for it.

1153
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone other than like, apparently he sent

1154
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: some text to friends talking about how like saying derogatory

1155
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: things about her as a black woman, like this is

1156
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: why I don't date black women, Like she's always on

1157
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: her bullshit. He's Dominican. It's sad for me because I'm

1158
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: married to a Dominican man who's not like that. Yeah,

1159
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: it was pretty shitty, and basically said that he thought

1160
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: he would be getting more money from this already. He's

1161
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: just doing it for the cloud blah blah blah. Like

1162
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: that's he really crazy, fucked it up for himself. Wow.

1163
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: But for Pamela Anderson, I just hope because Liam Neeson

1164
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: is such an aggressive his care I don't know him

1165
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: as a person, but like obviously, but his characters are

1166
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: so aggressive, and she's so delicate and like and I mean,

1167
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: I know she's a strong, powerful woman, but she's so

1168
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: I just want to protect her. And I just hope

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00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: that she feels good because I'm following.

1170
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: If she's happy, I'm happy.

1171
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping he's not aggressive and she's just like

1172
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, like can happen in Hollywood, I'm hoping it's

1173
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: mutual and then it's mutually respect and like there's all

1174
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: that happening.

1175
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: I hope it's so.

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: I would be so sad to find out that the

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00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: whole time she's been deeply uncomfortable and wishing for it

1178
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: to end.

1179
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hate that.

1180
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, miss gorgeous Bala Sunshine, thank you so much

1181
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: for joining me on ground ambition. Thank you.

1182
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: I love you back.

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00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: Yes, anytime I want to come visit you in Brooklyn.

1184
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: He visited me on the internet. We visited Alexa, you know,

1185
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: in Chelsea. So now we need to come to Brooklyn.

1186
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: It's almost to Brooklyn. We're gonna we're gonna find a time.

1187
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: Be a faan, go make new friends. You can do it,

1188
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: whether you're twenty thirty, forty fifteen, go make new friends'

1189
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: it's not too late, okay, okay, be a fan. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to this week's show. I

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: want to shout out to our production team, Courtney, our editor, Carla,

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: our fearless leader for idea to launch productions. I want

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Speaker 1: to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and Cameron McNair

1194
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: for helping me put the show together. It is not

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00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: a one person project, as much as I have tried

1196
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: to make it so these past ten years. I need help, y'all,

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: and thank goodness I've been able to put this team

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Speaker 1: around me to support me on this journey and to

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Speaker 1: y'all bea fam I love you, so so so so much.

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