WEBVTT - The Two-Timers Club with Rebecca Lobo

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're downing

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<v Speaker 1>caffeine like our lives depend on it. I could use

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<v Speaker 1>about I don't know, eight extra hours to get some

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<v Speaker 1>things done today, but alas I checked, still only twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. Maybe tomorrow. It's Friday, April eleventh, Happy Friday Slices.

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<v Speaker 1>On today's show, ESPN analyst Rebecca Lobo will join us

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<v Speaker 1>to look back at another great season of college hoops

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<v Speaker 1>and take a little peek ahead to the WNBA Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about are getting to call a Yukon championship

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<v Speaker 1>win as an analyst for the first time this year,

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<v Speaker 1>whether Gino was actually crying over Pagebeckers in that viral

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<v Speaker 1>press conference clip, the positive vibe around this year's NCAA tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>and the influx of transfers changing the college hoops landscape

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<v Speaker 1>early in this offseason. Plus the Love Finals continue, the

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Jean Kingcup makes a move, and a goat gets

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<v Speaker 1>the dock treatment. It's all coming up. Right after this

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back, Sligh says, here's what you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>today in pro Vib's news. The Love Finals continue tonight

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisville at the KFCM Center, make sure you catch

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<v Speaker 1>the semi final action starting at six thirty pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN two or ESPN Plus. And if you miss

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<v Speaker 1>the semis remember that a champ will be crowned on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday at four pm Eastern. That contest will also be

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN two and ESPN Plus. In tennis news, the

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<v Speaker 1>billyj and King Cup Finals, which we had the honor

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<v Speaker 1>of attending this past fall, will be held in September

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<v Speaker 1>instead of November this year. Quick refresher. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>top international team tennis competition where each nation's best tennis

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<v Speaker 1>players team up to take on the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>world stars. The Cup is had to take place in Shenjin, China,

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<v Speaker 1>and has been moved in the hopes of aligning better

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<v Speaker 1>with the players competition schedule. In the past, top athletes

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<v Speaker 1>like IGAs Fontec, Coco Goff, and Jessica Pagoula have skipped

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<v Speaker 1>the event because of the strenuous travel requirements. The WTA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour Finals, held around the same time in past years,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't located anywhere near the BJK Cup site, but this

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<v Speaker 1>year's BJK Cup Finals in China will run from September

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<v Speaker 1>sixteenth to September twenty first, the same time WTA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>events will be held across Asia. In hockey news, the

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<v Speaker 1>PWHL's Montreal Victoire have activated goaltender and Renee Debn from

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<v Speaker 1>long term injured reserve. She leads all goaltenders and wins

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<v Speaker 1>goals against average and save percentage, but was placed on

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<v Speaker 1>long term injured reserve last week, retroactive to March eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>after suffering a lower body injury in a game against

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston Fleet. Debien is currently in Chechia with Team

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<v Speaker 1>Canada for the World Championships, and while she didn't dress

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<v Speaker 1>for the team's opening game against Finland, perhaps we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>her later in the tournament. We'll link to the full

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<v Speaker 1>World Championship schedule in the show notes to the NWSL,

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<v Speaker 1>where we were so caught up with college hoops we

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<v Speaker 1>missed last week's announcement of the Best eleven for the

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<v Speaker 1>month of March, a list that included the Washington Spirits

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Hatch, who scored three goals in March, including a

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<v Speaker 1>game winner against Houston and a brace in week three,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Casey Currents ten with Shawana also named NWSL

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Month. Shweinga's three goals in March extended

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<v Speaker 1>her scoring streak to eight straight regular season contests, tying

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<v Speaker 1>her own league records. In twenty twenty four, Houston Dash

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<v Speaker 1>midfielder Maggie Graham was also named Rookie of the Month

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<v Speaker 1>for March after scoring in each of her first two appearances,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the fifth player in NWSL history and just the

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<v Speaker 1>third rookie to do so. Heading into Week four, three

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the league looked to continue their season long

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<v Speaker 1>unbeaten streak. The three and O Orlando Pride taken out Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>the three and O KC Current taken on San Diego,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two to one in oh Washington Spirit who

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<v Speaker 1>will face Louisville. You could check out the full NWSL

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<v Speaker 1>schedule in our show notes. Some more NWSL news, Denver's

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<v Speaker 1>expansion side has made its first big hire, naming Jen

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<v Speaker 1>Millett as the club's first president. The Colorado native was

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<v Speaker 1>the chief operating officer for BAYFC. We got to take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break when we come back. We caught up

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<v Speaker 1>with Rebecca Lobo yesterday and she helped us put this

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<v Speaker 1>college hoop season in perspective. Keep it locked here, joining

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<v Speaker 1>us out for the second time. She's an Olympic gold medalist,

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA champion, inaugural player in the WNBA, and a w

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<v Speaker 1>All star in ninety nine, member of the Women's Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame and the Naysmith Hall of Fame. Now

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter and color analyst for ESPN with a focus

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<v Speaker 1>on women's college hoops and the WNBA. She's guest starred

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<v Speaker 1>on Martin Sister Sister, Matt, About You, and Girls five Eva,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's got her own street in South mlkmass where

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<v Speaker 1>she went to high school, Rebecca Lobo Way, It's Rebecca

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<v Speaker 1>Lobo High. Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. When do I get a jacket? Is that like

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm on for my fifth time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? We need we have a five timers club. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're working your way toward it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're slowly, but Shirley, all right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have just finished a hell of a run covering women's

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<v Speaker 1>college hoops. How are you holding up?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired. It's funny because everybody just assumed, like assumes

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<v Speaker 2>that when the Final four is over, oh, you take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. I'm like, no, We've got a week we're

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<v Speaker 2>preparing for the draft. But then when we have the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a glorious three weeks that follow it because college

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<v Speaker 2>over WNBA training camps haven't even started. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the three weeks of my year where I can

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<v Speaker 2>exhale and there's nothing that I should be prepping for.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now we're still in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>work of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're still in the grind when that three weeks comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you more of a staycation, get stuff done around

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<v Speaker 1>the house, doodle around, or are you like, I hit

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<v Speaker 1>a tropical spot immediately kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mom, so we never get to hit the

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<v Speaker 2>tropical spot and very rarely does it coincide with my

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<v Speaker 2>with my kids vacation at school. So usually it's just relax, decompress,

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<v Speaker 2>do some stuff around the house, and if it is

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<v Speaker 2>a year where it coincides with the kids stuff, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to get out and about, but it typically does not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get to the draft because yeah, it's Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane. But let's talk about this run because

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<v Speaker 1>this was one of my favorite college basketball seasons ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, if you could try to get

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<v Speaker 1>back into your brain back when the season started, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you be most surprised to see happen this year,

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<v Speaker 1>like a certain player popping off or a team under

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<v Speaker 1>or overperforming. What what did you have a different mind

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<v Speaker 1>about when things started.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we were all pretty open minded because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>while South Carolina was the favorite coming in because they

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<v Speaker 2>had been undefeated and won the championship the year before,

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<v Speaker 2>you also knew, all right, but they don't have Camilla

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<v Speaker 2>Cardoso and she was such a huge part of what

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<v Speaker 2>they did last year. What is USC going to look

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<v Speaker 2>like this year? What is Yukon going to look like

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<v Speaker 2>this year? And then I certainly don't think any of

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<v Speaker 2>us anticipated, like in December and January, that Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>would be the best team in the country and that

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<v Speaker 2>hannahad all Go would be playing like the front runner

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<v Speaker 2>for National Player of the Year. And then sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the ebbs and flows that we saw from from that

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<v Speaker 2>point on in terms of you know, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>had for the first time three consecutive weeks, maybe at

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<v Speaker 2>some point in January or February, we had a new

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<v Speaker 2>number one team. You know, I don't think people would

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<v Speaker 2>have expected UCLA to, you know, grab hold of that

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<v Speaker 2>number one ranking in November December, and then ride it

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<v Speaker 2>for much of the season, So it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a place with women's basketball now are it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot less predictable than it has been in previous years.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is the biggest driver of that parody?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that nil transfer portal, investment from schools into their

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<v Speaker 1>women's programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably a little bit of all of those things. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the transfer portal has played a really big part

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<v Speaker 2>in that because you can have a team like LSU,

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<v Speaker 2>who you know, Kim Molki's done a phenomenal job every

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<v Speaker 2>year kind of building a Final four caliber team out

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<v Speaker 2>of the transfer portal by bringing in seniors and experienced players,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there's a little bit less of you know, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>they got a really good freshman class, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>watch them grow, and that team's going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>good their junior and senior year. You can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bring the pieces is and you see what Mark Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>did at TCU this year, you know, going, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from a team two years ago with hardly any wins

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<v Speaker 2>to this year going to the Elite eight. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that the transfer portal has probably played the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>role in all that, And of course NIL is combined

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<v Speaker 2>with the transfer portal as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to see your alma mater, Yukon get the

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<v Speaker 1>big win in Tampa, Pagebackers gets to ride off into

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<v Speaker 1>the sunset as a champion. It felt a little different

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<v Speaker 1>for me and I think a lot of people watching

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<v Speaker 1>this time. It's been since twenty sixteen since Yukon has won.

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<v Speaker 1>After all those years of kind of being like, oh, Gino,

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<v Speaker 1>Riam and company, here we go again. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>they were kind of an underdog almost. They were a

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<v Speaker 1>number two seed, which was weird but ended up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it all worked out for them. How did it feel

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<v Speaker 1>for you watching this year versus maybe some of the

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<v Speaker 1>runs they made when they were dominating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's a little bit of all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's that cycle when Brianna Stewart was there

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<v Speaker 2>where they win four in a row and the expectation

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<v Speaker 2>is for them to always win, and I think this

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<v Speaker 2>year what was different was what happened the previous four

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<v Speaker 2>years where this team, season after season after season was

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<v Speaker 2>decimated by injury and even last year. I think last

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<v Speaker 2>year was one of the coach Oriama's greatest jobs as

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<v Speaker 2>a coach to get that group to the final four.

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<v Speaker 2>They were a three seed a year ago when they

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<v Speaker 2>beat us in the regional final page and Juju going

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<v Speaker 2>going at it, and and so it just there was

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<v Speaker 2>a very different feel I think about the Yukon team

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<v Speaker 2>this year because it's the first time where I think

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, man, I really want this for this kid.

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<v Speaker 2>She's you know, she's had all this bad luck going

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<v Speaker 2>poor coach Oriama and Yukon they've had all of this

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<v Speaker 2>bad luck. And so it was a completely completely different vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>And while they were in some ways the favorite going

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<v Speaker 2>into the final four because of how well they played, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were the only two seed in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>final four, just because of some of the ups and

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<v Speaker 2>downs that they'd had this season. So certainly a very

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<v Speaker 2>different journey than we're used to seeing from a Yukon

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<v Speaker 2>player and a Yukon team.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're around as long as you've been and you're

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<v Speaker 1>such a just legendary member of the women's basketball community,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you approach knowing that no matter how you

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<v Speaker 1>call the game, people will say you're being biased for Yukon.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I have somewhere on my phone a

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<v Speaker 2>screenshot from you years ago when I was calling Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>Links and the LA Sparks in the finals, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had back to back tweets. One of them said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you can be any more biased for Minnesota, followed

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<v Speaker 2>by you know you couldn't be any more biased for

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<v Speaker 2>for the Sparks, And so, like, I feel confident in

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<v Speaker 2>how I call games, and I just sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say what I see. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say what I see, and and that's what I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I did this year, and the best way

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<v Speaker 2>for me to handle it is what I've done since September.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not look at any app replies because look, nobody,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody ever says to me to my face. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you really sounded bias in that in that game, you

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<v Speaker 2>know so, But like you know, we're always hoping on

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<v Speaker 2>the TV side for close games. That's what's best for us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's you know, more enjoyable to watch. We know

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna have a big impact on the ratings as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's certainly not how it played out in any of

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<v Speaker 2>the games that our crew called in the tournament this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like I I can't even about that, And

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting, Sarah is like, I've done a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>Yukon's championships as a sideline reporter, a sideline analyst, and

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<v Speaker 2>as a studio analyst. This is the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever called one of their national championships as the game analyst.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been doing it on the National championship

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<v Speaker 2>last five or six years, and so I've seen plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of their heartbreaking losses, but this is the first time

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<v Speaker 2>I got to call one of their wins. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a fun new experience for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you've been out of the Menchi said September.

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<v Speaker 1>When that three week pause hits, are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>go digging back in or are you trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>why would I?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would I? Like like I've hopped in and posted

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff and then I just get right back out,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't you know? And this is and I

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<v Speaker 2>may have told you this story before, I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know this was back before when I was

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<v Speaker 2>still in my mensions and I was sitting in my

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<v Speaker 2>living room looking at him and saying something to my

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<v Speaker 2>husband like look at this, you know kind of a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, would you invite that person into our

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<v Speaker 2>living room, and I said no. He said, then why

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<v Speaker 2>are you inviting that person into our living room? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what, no one's allowed in

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<v Speaker 2>my living room. The living room is fine, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna worry about any of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. You know, We've been talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of Yukon folks. We even had Gino on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had him on before the moment that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about at the press conference last regular season game.

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<v Speaker 1>Page gets up and walks away, and everyone says Gino's crying,

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<v Speaker 1>But Sue Byrd and if you said Collier, all these

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<v Speaker 1>former players say, no chance Gino was crying. To everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very clear it looked like he was definitely crying.

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<v Speaker 1>And we think this is a new, older, softer Gino

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<v Speaker 1>and that the old players just don't get it. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't You don't think he was crying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I'm I'm a little bit more informed on

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<v Speaker 2>this because that was the game where they played the

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<v Speaker 2>last her last game at Gamble. It was in the

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<v Speaker 2>second round of the tournament. That's that game. I called

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<v Speaker 2>that game. Right after the game, he came Page came

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<v Speaker 2>and sat down with us and talked to us first live,

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<v Speaker 2>and then coach came and we had an interview with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was very much in his upbeat spirits, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of given crap mode, and and so in that press conference,

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<v Speaker 2>what I saw, and what I believe is one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent true, is him kind of rolling his eyes like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're like just there she goes, or that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, there was nothing in that moment that should have

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<v Speaker 2>made him cry, like he had more time with her,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all obviously saw what happened after the National

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<v Speaker 2>Championship game and the full emotion that he brought. I

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<v Speaker 2>more saw him in like, you know, given her crap

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mode in the moment where people thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll take your word for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can tell this story because I heard him

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<v Speaker 2>tell a piece of it at their welcome reception back

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<v Speaker 2>at Gamble Pavilion. But after the game, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's late at night. I'm kind of hanging out with

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<v Speaker 2>Stuwie and Sue and Diana and Ryan and Holly, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got some of our you know, former Yukon players

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<v Speaker 2>saying you should come by. You should come by and

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<v Speaker 2>say say hi to coach. Come buy the team hotel

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<v Speaker 2>and so so we did so so D and Sue

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<v Speaker 2>and Stuie and Megan and myself we get in a

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<v Speaker 2>in an uber and we go out to the team

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<v Speaker 2>hotel and we're not near the players. They're like on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof or wherever they're doing their thing. And like

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<v Speaker 2>we walk by where the parents are, we're not with them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we get like to the back of the area and

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<v Speaker 2>and coach or Aama is there and CD and Jamel

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<v Speaker 2>and Morgan and Tanya and all the coaching staff kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just sitting sitting in their separate places, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>some other former players back there, and so we're just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sitting around and talking and and Coach Arima

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<v Speaker 2>told the story and uh in their welcome reception and

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<v Speaker 2>how you know, he started pointing at players, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jen has one, Rebecca has one, Stue has two, d

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<v Speaker 2>has three, and he's like counting around the part of

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<v Speaker 2>the story he didn't tell was right before he started

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<v Speaker 2>doing the counting. It's probably two in the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>Page comes down and you know, she's got the net

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<v Speaker 2>and her championship had on, and she comes over and

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<v Speaker 2>like it's all kind of the older players sitting around,

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<v Speaker 2>and Coach kind of looks at her and is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, you got one and you're done, so

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<v Speaker 2>you think you can be down here now and then

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<v Speaker 2>and remember this is just a couple hours after we

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<v Speaker 2>saw him crying and hugging her and telling her he

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<v Speaker 2>loves her. And he looks at Page and he points

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<v Speaker 2>at me and he said, go sit next to her.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys only have one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he started like pointing. He's like, I won,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he points to Stewie four, Jessic Moore three,

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole thing. So that's who he is. Never

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<v Speaker 2>so no, and so him sitting at the podium when

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<v Speaker 2>she was still his player, you know, after the second round,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't crying. And the thing that was interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>me was it was thirty years since our team won

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<v Speaker 2>the championship, and the night after we won, we all

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in coaches room and he's like, put the

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<v Speaker 2>VHS tape of our game on and he starts giving

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<v Speaker 2>all of us us shit after just winning him as

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<v Speaker 2>first national championship. And I was just like I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I was in a time warp, like thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, you know, giving crap to tonight. It's Paige.

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<v Speaker 2>She just won a championship. But he's already said to her,

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<v Speaker 2>go sit over by her, because you guys at leave.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. That's what makes those people great. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're crazy like that. That's literally what drives him already

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<v Speaker 1>ready to pop in the tape and tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>to do. That's such a great story. What are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the highlights for you from the tournament, regional games,

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<v Speaker 1>Final four? Anything besides the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just the the energy and the excitement. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my journey in the tournament was I did call the

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<v Speaker 2>first two games and stores all of them sold out,

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<v Speaker 2>incredible crowds. Go out to Spokane, we get to call

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<v Speaker 2>the games out in Spokane. That building was packed for

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<v Speaker 2>for all rounds. Going to the final four, same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the energy and the vibe and the feeling of just

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<v Speaker 2>excitement about women's basketball. And you know, I've been at

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<v Speaker 2>the final covering the Final four for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>years and there is definitely a different feeling that we've

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<v Speaker 2>had in these last three or four. You know, not

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<v Speaker 2>only the games being sold out, there's just a different energy, excitement,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people texting you or whatever excited for these games,

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<v Speaker 2>for these players, for the stories. There's a different juice.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a different juice there and I felt it in

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<v Speaker 2>stores and I felt it, and we felt it all

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<v Speaker 2>in the regular season too, because we got to call

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<v Speaker 2>some incredible games in the regular season. You know, Notre

0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Dame at NC State and the students section is exploding,

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<v Speaker 2>LSU at South Carolina and you've got twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>students there. Just like the building felt like it was pulsing.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a different energy about it, and it's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say this year, minus the juju injury,

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<v Speaker 1>was a mostly positive season. You know, last year I

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<v Speaker 1>had almost forgotten about the Spokane region having some issues

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<v Speaker 1>around you know, overscheduling with like I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a volleyball tournament, and then players staying in a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>just outside of state, facing some racial epithets. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more complaints about investment and resources and all

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<v Speaker 1>those other things. It's not fixed, but between the economic

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<v Speaker 1>units finally getting applied to the women's game, to the

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<v Speaker 1>storylines around the teams and the players and the game itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It did feel like there was a leap this year

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<v Speaker 1>and just talking about ball, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there were still some of those issues and

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<v Speaker 2>coach o Aama brought them up. Kim Multky was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about them and that that high school volleyball tournament was

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<v Speaker 2>still happening because many of those players and their parents

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<v Speaker 2>were at the hotel we were in No Way Spokane,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean it's hard because how those super

0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.920
<v Speaker 2>regionals are set up, like they literally the teams the

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<v Speaker 2>day before they're going to play a Sweet sixteen, an

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:42.960
<v Speaker 2>elite A game, they only get an hour on the court.

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<v Speaker 2>They get a half hour on game day for shoot

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<v Speaker 2>around and this year one of the ones in Spokane,

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<v Speaker 2>their time was like five forty five am. There are

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<v Speaker 2>certain certainly things that need to get fixed and become better,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think the basketball was so good. And

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<v Speaker 2>you brought up the Juju injury. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that did take a considerable amount of air

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<v Speaker 2>out of the bubble. And I think part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is because you know, last year it was like people

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 2>are on Team Angel or Team Caitlin. There wasn't that feeling.

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.440
<v Speaker 2>This year, I think everybody was was hopeful for Pagebeckers,

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 2>everyone was hopeful for Juju, like they are players that

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't feel like, you know, that there was as

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<v Speaker 2>much of a love hate divide this season. It felt

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<v Speaker 2>just more like, Oh, I really love that player. My

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<v Speaker 2>heart breaks that she just hurt her knee. I really

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<v Speaker 2>love this kid. I hope she gets her championship or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my lagel full Wiley so exciting to watch

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen there. So there was I think

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<v Speaker 2>a better vibe about Possibi this year. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of positivity, it seems like you and Ryan Ruco

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and Holly Road genuinely enjoy each other. Can you give

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<v Speaker 1>us a little behind the scenes of your trio, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe when you have a couple hours off.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we spent so much time together, so we

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<v Speaker 2>better enjoy one another. I mean, when when we were

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<v Speaker 2>out in Spokane, for example, we're staying we were staying

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the city. We're at a hotel that was

0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.479
<v Speaker 2>right near the airport. There really wasn't much around us,

0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 2>so there was a highway that went by. But even

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.480
<v Speaker 2>when it's like forty five degrees and cold, like we're

0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 2>out there in the morning, we're going for a walk together,

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 2>we are eating our meals together, we're hanging out with

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.879
<v Speaker 2>one another. You know, we're sitting watching the other games

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>happening in the different regions with one another. We just

0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.200
<v Speaker 2>enjoy each other's company. And and so that was kind

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of the rhythm of the Final four too. We spend

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 2>so much time in the arena that by the end

0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.879
<v Speaker 2>of it, like you cannot be in the best mental space.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we've learned over the years, all right, there's

0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.120
<v Speaker 2>a break, let's get outside, let's get in the sun,

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 2>let's get outside, let's go for a walk. And but

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're the only ones on our same schedule,

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and we just spend spend a ton of time together.

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<v Speaker 2>We laugh a lot, we enjoy each other and and

0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it would be really, really hard to do this job

0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:50.880
<v Speaker 2>if that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it makes for such a great watch,

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>such a great lesten. So okay, so this season's wrapped.

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.400
<v Speaker 1>We got the fairytale ending for page. Before we get

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.919
<v Speaker 1>to the draft, we've still got to close up the

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>college game, which means we're already seeing players in the

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>transfer portal making moves. What are your thoughts on Olivia

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Miles to TCU.

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<v Speaker 2>That one surprised me a little bit. First, I was

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.919
<v Speaker 2>surprised that she chose to not go in the draft.

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, typically if a player is projected to go

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 2>not only second, but second to a phenomenal franchise, like

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 2>you have the chance to be the one who sort

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 2>of follows Sue Byrd as the point guard of the

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Seattle franchise. That surprised me. And then I did not

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.400
<v Speaker 2>expect for her to go to TCU, of all places.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, you could actually be a really

0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.480
<v Speaker 2>interesting fit for her because they run the same kind

0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of offense at Notre Dame. So that one was a

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 2>big surprise. Tadaia Latson when she came out South Carolina

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 2>is the perfect fit for her. That makes all kind

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.600
<v Speaker 2>of sense. So and wow, that's going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see her in a back court with my

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<v Speaker 2>Lesia full Whiley next year.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, leading scorer in the nation goes to a

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>place that needs someone clutch. That's the go to.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed a guard who could just go get a bucket,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is a guard who go just go get

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<v Speaker 2>a bucket. The one who's I'm at least as we're

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.920
<v Speaker 2>doing this podcast now, I don't know where Cody McMahon's

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<v Speaker 2>going yet, especially this will be her last year. She

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<v Speaker 2>will be probably a lottery pick in next year's draft.

0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, she's in the port a lot of Ohio State.

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 2>That woman is the real deal as a as a

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<v Speaker 2>basketball player, as a score. I'm kind of fascinated to

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>see where she's gonna go. But yeah, like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>even like project what's gonna happen next year until all

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.959
<v Speaker 2>this stuff settles, you know, Keyomi mcmiller coming out of

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 2>Rutgers like, to me, the perfect fit for her is

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<v Speaker 2>if she ends up at LSU. If she ends up

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU and a backcourt with Flage Johnson, Holy cow,

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>this that kid can really really play. So so yeah,

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, we like we can't even Charlie cream

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 2>does is you know, way too early top twenty five,

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>And you know, once things kind of settle in in

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, I would imagine some of those projection projections

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<v Speaker 2>are going to change a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as Fred the Olivia Miles thing, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, obviously TCU was a great spot for Haley

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>van Lit to redeem herself after a tough time at LSU.

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It feels like from the rumors that they are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>making it worth a student's while to go there in

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 1>terms of nil deals and things like that. Obviously, the

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.879
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the coach there feels like one that the

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>players really take to heart and feel like they're seen by.

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But she's not the only Notre Dame player on the move,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm as intrigued by her wanting to go to

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<v Speaker 1>TCU as I am by players leaving the Irish. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you hearing anything about why that's not a program that's

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<v Speaker 1>able to hang on to players.

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.199
<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's not That's not a rumor mill that

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 2>I have, you know, any any insight on. But I

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 2>mean when you look at their uster right now, I

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 2>think they only have two or three players RFD. You

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>know Kate Kolevaals has on the move to LSU. Actually,

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 2>that's I think a really really good fit for her too,

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Speaker 2>because Kim Malki is so good about utilizing her big

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>back to the basket post players. But no, and when

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>we've covered Notre Dame, the players seem to have an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible relationship with the l Ivy, So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a situation where the NIL is just too

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<v Speaker 2>appealing at other places, So I'm not sure exactly what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone of my Menchi's mentioned something about them under investing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if they meant overtly or if

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<v Speaker 1>they meant an nil or otherwise, And it wasn't a

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>source that I knew knew anything, but they seem to

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have a strong opinion about the team not putting enough

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>into the women's side of the program, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if there's any truth to that.

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know either, but it's certainly from the outside.

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything that looks like the players don't

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 2>completely respect and appreciate in the l But if that's

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the case, if you're getting offered a lot more money

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>from another place and you're a kid who doesn't have

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 2>much money, and how many kids do like you, know,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I would understand how that would be a hard thing

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:52.320
<v Speaker 2>not to take.

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So obviously South Carolina prime to compete again next year,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>returning so many stars and adding to Nai Lats and

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Yukon with superstar Fresh and Sarah Strong leading the way,

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>who just already would be a lottery pick right now,

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Ucla bringing pretty much everybody back. Are those your early

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>favorites for next year's Final four? And who else is

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on the list?

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think those would be my three favorites going in.

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, UCLA has got so much back, they now

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 2>have the experience of being there. You know, you bring

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 2>up Sarah Strong, how about Azy Fudd. I'm watching her

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>playing like holy holy smokes. As she plays like this

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 2>next year, she could be the number one pick in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft. Next year they could have three numbers like

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Sarah Strong to me, but when she's a senior, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on how everything you know is in the CBA, like,

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>she could be the number one or pick page Backers

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 2>obviously the number one pick. Asy Food could be the

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 2>number one pick next year. So I think you kind

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 2>is certainly dangerous South Carolina, and they'll have a different

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of a chip on their shoulder, of course, coming

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>off of losing Ucla. And then let's let's see what

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Kim Bulk does. You know she always finds a way

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>in Texas.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Texas course, Madison Booker just getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know who's an interesting one is going

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to be Oklahoma. You know they return most of their

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>pieces or many of their pieces, and they add Alias

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Chavez the number one recruit, and you mentioned UCLA, they

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>get Sienna Betts, you know, Lauren's sisters. So uh yeah,

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 2>there's there's going to be a lot of fun games

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 2>for us to watch and cover next year.

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Sienna Bets was in the ESPN W suite with me

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and everyone else for that UCLA game. It was a

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>little awkward. A lot of us were cheering for Yukon

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and Paige, and you know, it was kind of hard

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 1>watching her watch her sister in that game where they struggled.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>But she was there.

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Because they told us she wasn't coming because she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be going to her prom.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>She was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Well hopefully her.

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Prom was like maybe a different day. Maybe she was

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>able to Yeah, let's hope. So uh okay, you mentioned it.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>So I want to ask really quick, do you think

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the CBA will end up allowing for players to make

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a decision about their future instead of having the same

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<v Speaker 1>age in your eligibility rules for entering the double Draft.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know that it will, and

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 2>even if it does, I don't know that it'll impact

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the women's game all that much because the players right now,

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the top players, the ones who might want to leave early,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>are because of NIL, you know, making such a nice living,

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean you see Olivia Miles choosing to

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>go back for NIL instead of go to the w NBA.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I would think a player like Juju Watkins, you know,

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and how she's beloved in the LA community. Unless LA

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the Sparks got the number one pick, and you're like,

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 2>all right, I gotta go out early to ensure that

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I go here. So it's one thing that the league

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>has protected for the last twenty eight years was sort

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>of understanding how important it is for these women to

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 2>build their brand in college. So I would expect it

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to go that route. But even if it doesn't, I

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine it would be as drastic as a one

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and done. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they let them come out

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>after a junior year.

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>But their rookie contracts are going to change too. It

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>is anticipated that they'll be coming into a lot more

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.239
<v Speaker 1>money in the w than they have been for that

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>first three year deal with a four year option that

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 1>they're going to want to, you know, maybe have a

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a consideration there. But yeah, I

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>think to a degree.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>To a degree, seric is keep in mind, it's the

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>veterans that are negotiating, and the veterans protect the veterans

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>more than they protect the rookies. That's the way it's

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>always been. So even if some of the higher end

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>salaries are going to go way up, and of course

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the rookies will to a degree, it's not going to

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 2>be like a rookie is going to be coming in.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't imagine making a million dollars if they're the

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>number one pick.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about the draft this upcoming Monday.

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>An incredibly fast turnaround for the players in the final four.

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>What's the biggest challenge you think, specifically for the pagebackers

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and the Taina powepals who barely unpacked from Tampa at

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this point.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Any sleep at all? I Mean, every time I look

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, I see you know, pages on, you know fallon,

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>she's you know, good morning America. Like their life right

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>now is such an incredible whirlwind. And and what's hard

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>too is, you know, they want to experience the last

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>month of their college life. You know, there's a lot

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of fun things to do in the spring of your

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>last year in college, but at the same time being

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>pulled in a million directions. But I'm sure for all

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of them, it's a huge relief to finally know where

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you're going. You know, there's such I mean Page No,

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>it's Page nows. She's going to Dallas, Tahina. Probably has

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>no idea right now where she's going to end up.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>And so it's the first time really in these young players'

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>lives where they do not choose where they go, you know,

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and did you get to choose which AAU team you

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>play for, you get to choose which college you go to,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>or multiple colleges that you go to, And this is

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be the first time where that is completely

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>out of a player's control. So sure they're like, all right,

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>let's get the draft here, let me know where I'm going,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and then like kind of figure out the next what

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 2>four or five weeks before training camp starts.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Last year, Caitlin Clark's moved to the w prompted some

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty uninformed conversations about being a rookie. As Dana Trossi said,

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>reality's coming for you, which was true and we saw

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it with our own eyes. The turnover, the timing with

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>teammates you just met that wasn't there yet. But obviously,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>with a little time and experience, Caitlin eventually excelled at

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the next level. What parts of the game do you

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>think take the most time for these new players entering

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the league to figure out.

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a primary ball handler like Caitlin, where

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>you can get you know, you're getting blitzed or double

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>teamed on ball screens. And maybe you got that to

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>a degree in college, but it wasn't from six to

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Alissa Thomas as one of the people coming out at you.

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>So I think the primary ball handlers, that's one thing.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>For the bigger post players, it's the physicality of the league.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the rhythm of the league as well. I

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>mean they've added games. This is a forty four game

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>regular season this year, but we haven't added time to it.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>So back to backs in different cities, you know, three

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>games in five days. Those are the sort of things

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>that are really hard on a player's body. So that's

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a piece of it, the physicality and the speed of

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the league, the rhythm of it. But what all players

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>do enjoy is they can they just have practice and

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>rest and you know, appearances there they don't have to

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>go to class anymore. They don't have the stress of

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.719
<v Speaker 2>studying for exams and all that sort of thing. But

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>it's the pace, the physicality, the rhythm of it is

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>what takes an adjustment for all these young guys.

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And it feels like the professionalism is already there at

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the collegiate level at this point, whether that's the business

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>deals for nil to the expectations from coaches and teammates

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for your schedule and everything else. But finally it's sort

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>of a reversal of things. The WNBA is catching up

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to college in terms of like facilities and resources. For

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 1>such a long time, that was one thing that players

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>had to adjust to with sometimes being much better treated,

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>flying better, better resources, training facilities, everything at the college level.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But thankfully that's changing at the w Is there still

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that that they have to adjust to,

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>or maybe just being up an adult who's in charge

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of themselves.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think some of it is dependent on franchise.

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, some franchises are in the process of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing the renderings of the Dallas practice facility or

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 2>New York's practice facility. But certainly the adjustment now with

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<v Speaker 2>the charter flights is much much easier than it was

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>for you know, players who hadn't flown commercially, you know,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>their entire than their entire college career, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>like it's that's a big piece of it too, is

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a lot more time now and when

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<v Speaker 2>you oftentimes, like when you're in college and you go

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<v Speaker 2>on a road trip, you know you have they give

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you your itinerary. You know, you where you're supposed to be.

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>You're having team meals together, and you're with other people

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 2>who are about your age. And that was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the big things for me my early in my pro

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<v Speaker 2>career is like you're on your own on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>you find your own meals and like this person's off

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<v Speaker 2>with their husband or partner and this person's like, you know,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>talking to their child and I'm, you know, twenty three

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>years old, Like wait a minute, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>So that piece of it is something to navigate too.

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<v Speaker 2>What you need is one you need one teammate who

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<v Speaker 2>you really get along with, who you go to meals with.

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<v Speaker 2>You you need what I have now with my Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>and Holland Yeah, like because it's so much time friends

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and family you need one road dog. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>have that one person, and if you know you both

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<v Speaker 2>like the same shows, you both like to read whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, you desperately need that one person to make

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<v Speaker 2>it all easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think sometimes teams certainly look to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Connor Bedard in the Blackhawks here in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen when he joined the team, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to give him a roommate at first, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I'm all right, but like they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up putting in a building with some vets that also

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the building. The building has like the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of amenities that you don't have to leave to really

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, because it's tough to be a kid who's

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly living in a new city alone. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think teams usually are pretty good about figuring out how

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<v Speaker 1>to at least kind of put you around other people

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that will help you learn just how to be an adult.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you being a dentist and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like and that's a piece of it too,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, as the medities get better, that includes

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 2>like dentists and doctors, all those all those like insurance.

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>They have to like you when you're in college, like

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>all of your medical stuff is taken care of.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Now that you're a pro, like you you need an

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 2>insurance card if you go to the doctor, you better

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>have that a near on you, you know. So like it's

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>just it's just different.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Last couple here, How do you see pagebackers game translating

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to the pros.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to translate beautifully. I think it's

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>going to translate beautifully. I thought Caitlyn's was going to

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>translate beautifully as well, and it did. It just took

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 2>some time for her to adjust to it all. But

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, Page can get to any spot on the floor.

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>We've seen her navigate pick and roll so well she

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<v Speaker 2>you know, will she experience some of the defensive attention

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>that Caitlyn did. Yes, but she's going to have a

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 2>rique alongside or so, you know, no double teams are

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>coming off a RIQUE. So I think her game and

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the efficiency part of it will translate as well.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that's the part that that was not

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about nearly enough. If it wasn't for her, you know,

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 2>in the last three or four games missing some free throws,

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 2>she would have been our first fifty to forty ninety

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>player who led the nation and assist the turnover ratio

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>like it's ridiculous, and I think her efficiency will translate.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll actually be a good sign if her

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 2>efficiency decreases a little bit, because that'll mean she's hunting

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>shots more. But her personality, her teammates are going to

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 2>love her. She's going to fit in seamlessly to what

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Dallas already has. And she has such a varied skill

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 2>set already a really good defender, has put on weight

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 2>since she got to college, gotten stronger. I think she's

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be at a high level really really quickly.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's just fund seeing the Dallas players so excited

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>for her to get there because they know she's covered,

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>so they're Yeah. Among the projected top picks, we've got

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>French Unicorn, the six to six, Dominique Malongo, We've got

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, Guard, Sonya Citron usc Big Kiki Eria Fen

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Tcu guard, Hayley Van Liz, Let's use Anissa Moro. Those

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>are some big names. Who are a few players that

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<v Speaker 1>you think will make an immediate impact in the w

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>you see playing time right away.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>That really depends on where they go, right you know,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>So if you Connecticut as back to back picks in

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the first round that would be in

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>real players. No players, Yeah, I mean they lost their

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>starting five. And that's the put up part that can

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 2>be hard for kids on draft day. Do not worry

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>about where you go. You know, you want to go

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>somewhere where you're going to have an opportunity one to

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>make the team and then to to to be able

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to play. And so players going and not only Dallas

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>because obviously Page is going to play right away, but

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>they have picks twelve and fourteen. Twelve and fourteen can

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>both make that Dallas roster and have an opportunity to

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 2>compete to be in the rotation. So that's the kind

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>of the piece that we're all watching too, not just

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you know who goes where. And by the way, Malonga

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 2>is an incredible talent. I encourage people to google her

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>and watch video of her because holy cow, she could

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>be pretty incredible in Seattle. So I think Page and

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Malonga are two. I think Citron again, you know, projected

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>to Washington. Well, that's another place you want to go,

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>because you want to go to a team that's rebuilding

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and wants to invest playing time in their younger pieces,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you know so, you would it be great for whoever

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 2>goes thirteen to Vegas because you're going to get to compete. Yes,

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to get much playing time?

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You're you're seen as a player for the future, which

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>will be great for you as long as you're ready

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>to assume that role, you know so, so we'll see,

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, those are the all of the pieces that

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 2>fall into place. That's that's pretty exciting.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's going to be just so much

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>excitement heading into that season with the Valkyries getting started,

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>with the pagebackers and these young players we've been watching

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 1>all season long getting their first crack at the pro games.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're just so pumped. Thanks so much for helping

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<v Speaker 1>us get ready for it, and thanks so much for

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>looking back at what was an incredible college season. Thank you,

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Thanks so much to Rebecca for joining us again.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to take another break when we return, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact is back. Welcome back, Slices. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>another What the fact, Like we just talked about with Rebecca,

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<v Speaker 1>the college hoops season is over, which means the WNBA

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<v Speaker 1>season is rapidly approaching, and after a twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>season that saw all but three of the league's twelve

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>teams led by women coaches, Twenty twenty five will start

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>with six men at the head of the bench. Five

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>female coaches, including two of the three black women in charge,

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>lost their head coaching gigs in twenty twenty four. Four

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of those women were replaced by men. Indiana Stephanie White

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is the outlier. She parted ways with the Connecticut Sun

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and then was named the head coach of the Indiana Fever.

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>For a league whose players have long champion diversity and

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>inclusion and where more than seventy percent identify as players

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of color per the latest TIDES report, and we're an

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>extreme majority of those folks identify as women. These coaching

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>don't feel great. Throw in the fact that WNBA Legend

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer, eight time All Star and two time

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Champ Lisa Leslie interviewed for two different head coaching vacancies

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>this offseason, and when she didn't get either, told Chicago's

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Guy Forward Angel Rees on her podcast quote, I will

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<v Speaker 1>never make another attempt to go into coaching in the

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<v Speaker 1>WNBA end quote, Well, then the eyebrows really start raising. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we of course don't know for certain why Leslie didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the job or what the interview was like, and

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<v Speaker 1>we certainly know that those men that got those jobs

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<v Speaker 1>aren't immediately incompetent because of their gender. But these facts

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<v Speaker 1>do illuminate the truth that the league has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to do to ensure that the folks playing

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<v Speaker 1>the game are represented by the folks leading them. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>those last two teams standing and unrivaled coach by the

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<v Speaker 1>two women coaches. I'm just saying there's also a precedent

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<v Speaker 1>for more women leaders in the W two. In its

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<v Speaker 1>first season back in ninety seven, nine out of ten

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<v Speaker 1>head coaches were women. So it'd be nice to have

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<v Speaker 1>a return to that era because there are so many

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