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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're downing

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Speaker 1: four hours. Maybe tomorrow. It's Friday, April eleventh, Happy Friday Slices.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, ESPN analyst Rebecca Lobo will join us

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Speaker 1: to look back at another great season of college hoops

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Speaker 1: and take a little peek ahead to the WNBA Draft.

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Speaker 1: We talk about are getting to call a Yukon championship

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Speaker 1: win as an analyst for the first time this year,

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Speaker 1: whether Gino was actually crying over Pagebeckers in that viral

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Speaker 1: press conference clip, the positive vibe around this year's NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 1: and the influx of transfers changing the college hoops landscape

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Speaker 1: early in this offseason. Plus the Love Finals continue, the

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Speaker 1: Billy Jean Kingcup makes a move, and a goat gets

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Speaker 1: the dock treatment. It's all coming up. Right after this

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Sligh says, here's what you need to know

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Speaker 1: today in pro Vib's news. The Love Finals continue tonight

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Speaker 1: in Louisville at the KFCM Center, make sure you catch

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Speaker 1: the semi final action starting at six thirty pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: on ESPN two or ESPN Plus. And if you miss

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Speaker 1: the semis remember that a champ will be crowned on

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Speaker 1: Sunday at four pm Eastern. That contest will also be

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Speaker 1: on ESPN two and ESPN Plus. In tennis news, the

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Speaker 1: billyj and King Cup Finals, which we had the honor

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Speaker 1: instead of November this year. Quick refresher. This is the

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Speaker 1: top international team tennis competition where each nation's best tennis

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Speaker 1: players team up to take on the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world stars. The Cup is had to take place in Shenjin, China,

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Speaker 1: and has been moved in the hopes of aligning better

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Speaker 1: with the players competition schedule. In the past, top athletes

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Speaker 1: like IGAs Fontec, Coco Goff, and Jessica Pagoula have skipped

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Speaker 1: the event because of the strenuous travel requirements. The WTA

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Speaker 1: weren't located anywhere near the BJK Cup site, but this

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Speaker 1: year's BJK Cup Finals in China will run from September

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Speaker 1: sixteenth to September twenty first, the same time WTA Tour

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Speaker 1: events will be held across Asia. In hockey news, the

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Speaker 1: PWHL's Montreal Victoire have activated goaltender and Renee Debn from

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Speaker 1: long term injured reserve. She leads all goaltenders and wins

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Speaker 1: goals against average and save percentage, but was placed on

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Speaker 1: long term injured reserve last week, retroactive to March eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: the Boston Fleet. Debien is currently in Chechia with Team

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Speaker 1: Canada for the World Championships, and while she didn't dress

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Speaker 1: her later in the tournament. We'll link to the full

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Speaker 1: World Championship schedule in the show notes to the NWSL,

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Speaker 1: where we were so caught up with college hoops we

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Speaker 1: missed last week's announcement of the Best eleven for the

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Speaker 1: month of March, a list that included the Washington Spirits

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Speaker 1: Ashley Hatch, who scored three goals in March, including a

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Speaker 1: and the Casey Currents ten with Shawana also named NWSL

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Speaker 1: Player of the Month. Shweinga's three goals in March extended

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Speaker 1: her own league records. In twenty twenty four, Houston Dash

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Speaker 1: expansion side has made its first big hire, naming Jen

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Speaker 2: Hi. When do I get a jacket? Is that like

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We need we have a five timers club. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Have just finished a hell of a run covering women's

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Speaker 2: I'm tired. It's funny because everybody just assumed, like assumes

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Speaker 2: That's a glorious three weeks that follow it because college

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Speaker 2: But right now we're still in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still in the grind when that three weeks comes.

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Speaker 1: Are you more of a staycation, get stuff done around

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Speaker 2: I'm a mom, so we never get to hit the

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to the draft because yeah, it's Monday,

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Speaker 1: which is insane. But let's talk about this run because

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Speaker 1: this was one of my favorite college basketball seasons ever.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like, if you could try to get

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Speaker 2: I think we were all pretty open minded because, you know,

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Speaker 2: We're in a place with women's basketball now are it's

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Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest driver of that parody?

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Speaker 1: Is that nil transfer portal, investment from schools into their

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Speaker 2: Probably a little bit of all of those things. I

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Speaker 1: You got to see your alma mater, Yukon get the

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Speaker 1: After all those years of kind of being like, oh, Gino,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a little bit of all of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's that cycle when Brianna Stewart was there

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Speaker 2: They were a three seed a year ago when they

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Speaker 2: She's you know, she's had all this bad luck going

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Speaker 2: bad luck. And so it was a completely completely different vibe.

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Speaker 2: And while they were in some ways the favorite going

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Speaker 2: different journey than we're used to seeing from a Yukon

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Speaker 1: When you're around as long as you've been and you're

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Speaker 1: how do you approach knowing that no matter how you

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Speaker 1: call the game, people will say you're being biased for Yukon.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I have somewhere on my phone a

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Speaker 2: screenshot from you years ago when I was calling Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Links and the LA Sparks in the finals, and I

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Speaker 1: I love that. You know, We've been talking to a

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Speaker 2: And I can tell this story because I heard him

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Speaker 2: And then he started like pointing. He's like, I won,

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Speaker 1: It was me.

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Speaker 2: He was, you know, giving crap to tonight. It's Paige.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's what makes those people great. They're they're

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Speaker 2: I mean, we spent so much time together, so we

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Speaker 2: a break, let's get outside, let's get in the sun,

432
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: let's get outside, let's go for a walk. And but

433
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, we're the only ones on our same schedule,

434
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: and we just spend spend a ton of time together.

435
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: We laugh a lot, we enjoy each other and and

436
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 2: it would be really, really hard to do this job

437
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 2: if that wasn't the case.

438
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it makes for such a great watch,

439
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: such a great lesten. So okay, so this season's wrapped.

440
00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: We got the fairytale ending for page. Before we get

441
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: to the draft, we've still got to close up the

442
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: college game, which means we're already seeing players in the

443
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: transfer portal making moves. What are your thoughts on Olivia

444
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Miles to TCU.

445
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 2: That one surprised me a little bit. First, I was

446
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 2: surprised that she chose to not go in the draft.

447
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, typically if a player is projected to go

448
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: not only second, but second to a phenomenal franchise, like

449
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: you have the chance to be the one who sort

450
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: of follows Sue Byrd as the point guard of the

451
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: Seattle franchise. That surprised me. And then I did not

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 2: expect for her to go to TCU, of all places.

453
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, you could actually be a really

454
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 2: interesting fit for her because they run the same kind

455
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: of offense at Notre Dame. So that one was a

456
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: big surprise. Tadaia Latson when she came out South Carolina

457
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: is the perfect fit for her. That makes all kind

458
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: of sense. So and wow, that's going to be really

459
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: interesting to see her in a back court with my

460
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: Lesia full Whiley next year.

461
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, leading scorer in the nation goes to a

462
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: place that needs someone clutch. That's the go to.

463
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 2: They needed a guard who could just go get a bucket,

464
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: and she is a guard who go just go get

465
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: a bucket. The one who's I'm at least as we're

466
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: doing this podcast now, I don't know where Cody McMahon's

467
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 2: going yet, especially this will be her last year. She

468
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: will be probably a lottery pick in next year's draft.

469
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: You know, she's in the port a lot of Ohio State.

470
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: That woman is the real deal as a as a

471
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: basketball player, as a score. I'm kind of fascinated to

472
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: see where she's gonna go. But yeah, like you can't

473
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: even like project what's gonna happen next year until all

474
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 2: this stuff settles, you know, Keyomi mcmiller coming out of

475
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: Rutgers like, to me, the perfect fit for her is

476
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: if she ends up at LSU. If she ends up

477
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: at LSU and a backcourt with Flage Johnson, Holy cow,

478
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: this that kid can really really play. So so yeah,

479
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, we like we can't even Charlie cream

480
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: does is you know, way too early top twenty five,

481
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: And you know, once things kind of settle in in

482
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: the portal, I would imagine some of those projection projections

483
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: are going to change a bit.

484
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, as Fred the Olivia Miles thing, I mean it

485
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: feels like, obviously TCU was a great spot for Haley

486
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: van Lit to redeem herself after a tough time at LSU.

487
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: It feels like from the rumors that they are certainly

488
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: making it worth a student's while to go there in

489
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: terms of nil deals and things like that. Obviously, the

490
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: relationship with the coach there feels like one that the

491
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: players really take to heart and feel like they're seen by.

492
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 1: But she's not the only Notre Dame player on the move,

493
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Speaker 1: So I'm as intrigued by her wanting to go to

494
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: TCU as I am by players leaving the Irish. Are

495
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: you hearing anything about why that's not a program that's

496
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: able to hang on to players.

497
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not That's not a rumor mill that

498
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: I have, you know, any any insight on. But I

499
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: mean when you look at their uster right now, I

500
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: think they only have two or three players RFD. You

501
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: know Kate Kolevaals has on the move to LSU. Actually,

502
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: that's I think a really really good fit for her too,

503
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: because Kim Malki is so good about utilizing her big

504
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: back to the basket post players. But no, and when

505
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: we've covered Notre Dame, the players seem to have an

506
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: incredible relationship with the l Ivy, So I don't know

507
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: if it's a situation where the NIL is just too

508
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: appealing at other places, So I'm not sure exactly what's

509
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: going on there.

510
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: Someone of my Menchi's mentioned something about them under investing,

511
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they meant overtly or if

512
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: they meant an nil or otherwise, And it wasn't a

513
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: source that I knew knew anything, but they seem to

514
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: have a strong opinion about the team not putting enough

515
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: into the women's side of the program, So I don't

516
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: know if there's any truth to that.

517
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either, but it's certainly from the outside.

518
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything that looks like the players don't

519
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: completely respect and appreciate in the l But if that's

520
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: the case, if you're getting offered a lot more money

521
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: from another place and you're a kid who doesn't have

522
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: much money, and how many kids do like you, know,

523
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: I would understand how that would be a hard thing

524
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: not to take.

525
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: So obviously South Carolina prime to compete again next year,

526
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: returning so many stars and adding to Nai Lats and

527
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: Yukon with superstar Fresh and Sarah Strong leading the way,

528
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: who just already would be a lottery pick right now,

529
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: Ucla bringing pretty much everybody back. Are those your early

530
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: favorites for next year's Final four? And who else is

531
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: on the list?

532
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think those would be my three favorites going in.

533
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: You know, UCLA has got so much back, they now

534
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: have the experience of being there. You know, you bring

535
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: up Sarah Strong, how about Azy Fudd. I'm watching her

536
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: playing like holy holy smokes. As she plays like this

537
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: next year, she could be the number one pick in

538
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: the draft. Next year they could have three numbers like

539
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: Sarah Strong to me, but when she's a senior, depending

540
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: on how everything you know is in the CBA, like,

541
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: she could be the number one or pick page Backers

542
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: obviously the number one pick. Asy Food could be the

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: number one pick next year. So I think you kind

544
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: is certainly dangerous South Carolina, and they'll have a different

545
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: kind of a chip on their shoulder, of course, coming

546
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: off of losing Ucla. And then let's let's see what

547
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: Kim Bulk does. You know she always finds a way

548
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: in Texas.

549
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: Texas course, Madison Booker just getting better.

550
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know who's an interesting one is going

551
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: to be Oklahoma. You know they return most of their

552
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: pieces or many of their pieces, and they add Alias

553
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Chavez the number one recruit, and you mentioned UCLA, they

554
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: get Sienna Betts, you know, Lauren's sisters. So uh yeah,

555
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: there's there's going to be a lot of fun games

556
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: for us to watch and cover next year.

557
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: Sienna Bets was in the ESPN W suite with me

558
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: and everyone else for that UCLA game. It was a

559
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: little awkward. A lot of us were cheering for Yukon

560
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: and Paige, and you know, it was kind of hard

561
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: watching her watch her sister in that game where they struggled.

562
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: But she was there.

563
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: Because they told us she wasn't coming because she was

564
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 2: going to be going to her prom.

565
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: She was there.

566
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well hopefully her.

567
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: Prom was like maybe a different day. Maybe she was

568
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: able to Yeah, let's hope. So uh okay, you mentioned it.

569
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: So I want to ask really quick, do you think

570
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the CBA will end up allowing for players to make

571
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: a decision about their future instead of having the same

572
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: age in your eligibility rules for entering the double Draft.

573
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that it will, and

574
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: even if it does, I don't know that it'll impact

575
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: the women's game all that much because the players right now,

576
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: the top players, the ones who might want to leave early,

577
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 2: are because of NIL, you know, making such a nice living,

578
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: you know. I mean you see Olivia Miles choosing to

579
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: go back for NIL instead of go to the w NBA.

580
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: I would think a player like Juju Watkins, you know,

581
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: and how she's beloved in the LA community. Unless LA

582
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: the Sparks got the number one pick, and you're like,

583
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: all right, I gotta go out early to ensure that

584
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: I go here. So it's one thing that the league

585
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: has protected for the last twenty eight years was sort

586
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: of understanding how important it is for these women to

587
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: build their brand in college. So I would expect it

588
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: to go that route. But even if it doesn't, I

589
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: can't imagine it would be as drastic as a one

590
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: and done. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they let them come out

591
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: after a junior year.

592
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: But their rookie contracts are going to change too. It

593
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: is anticipated that they'll be coming into a lot more

594
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: money in the w than they have been for that

595
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: first three year deal with a four year option that

596
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: they're going to want to, you know, maybe have a

597
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: little bit more of a consideration there. But yeah, I

598
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: think to a degree.

599
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: To a degree, seric is keep in mind, it's the

600
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: veterans that are negotiating, and the veterans protect the veterans

601
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: more than they protect the rookies. That's the way it's

602
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: always been. So even if some of the higher end

603
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: salaries are going to go way up, and of course

604
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: the rookies will to a degree, it's not going to

605
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: be like a rookie is going to be coming in.

606
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't imagine making a million dollars if they're the

607
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: number one pick.

608
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the draft this upcoming Monday.

609
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: An incredibly fast turnaround for the players in the final four.

610
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: What's the biggest challenge you think, specifically for the pagebackers

611
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: and the Taina powepals who barely unpacked from Tampa at

612
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: this point.

613
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: Any sleep at all? I Mean, every time I look

614
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: on Instagram, I see you know, pages on, you know fallon,

615
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: she's you know, good morning America. Like their life right

616
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: now is such an incredible whirlwind. And and what's hard

617
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: too is, you know, they want to experience the last

618
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: month of their college life. You know, there's a lot

619
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: of fun things to do in the spring of your

620
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: last year in college, but at the same time being

621
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: pulled in a million directions. But I'm sure for all

622
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: of them, it's a huge relief to finally know where

623
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: you're going. You know, there's such I mean Page No,

624
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: it's Page nows. She's going to Dallas, Tahina. Probably has

625
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: no idea right now where she's going to end up.

626
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: And so it's the first time really in these young players'

627
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: lives where they do not choose where they go, you know,

628
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: and did you get to choose which AAU team you

629
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: play for, you get to choose which college you go to,

630
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: or multiple colleges that you go to, And this is

631
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: going to be the first time where that is completely

632
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: out of a player's control. So sure they're like, all right,

633
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: let's get the draft here, let me know where I'm going,

634
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: and then like kind of figure out the next what

635
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: four or five weeks before training camp starts.

636
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Last year, Caitlin Clark's moved to the w prompted some

637
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: pretty uninformed conversations about being a rookie. As Dana Trossi said,

638
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: reality's coming for you, which was true and we saw

639
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: it with our own eyes. The turnover, the timing with

640
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: teammates you just met that wasn't there yet. But obviously,

641
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: with a little time and experience, Caitlin eventually excelled at

642
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: the next level. What parts of the game do you

643
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: think take the most time for these new players entering

644
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: the league to figure out.

645
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: I think it's a primary ball handler like Caitlin, where

646
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: you can get you know, you're getting blitzed or double

647
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: teamed on ball screens. And maybe you got that to

648
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: a degree in college, but it wasn't from six to

649
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Alissa Thomas as one of the people coming out at you.

650
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: So I think the primary ball handlers, that's one thing.

651
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: For the bigger post players, it's the physicality of the league.

652
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: I think the rhythm of the league as well. I

653
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: mean they've added games. This is a forty four game

654
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: regular season this year, but we haven't added time to it.

655
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: So back to backs in different cities, you know, three

656
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: games in five days. Those are the sort of things

657
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: that are really hard on a player's body. So that's

658
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: a piece of it, the physicality and the speed of

659
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: the league, the rhythm of it. But what all players

660
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: do enjoy is they can they just have practice and

661
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: rest and you know, appearances there they don't have to

662
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: go to class anymore. They don't have the stress of

663
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 2: studying for exams and all that sort of thing. But

664
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: it's the pace, the physicality, the rhythm of it is

665
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: what takes an adjustment for all these young guys.

666
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: And it feels like the professionalism is already there at

667
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: the collegiate level at this point, whether that's the business

668
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: deals for nil to the expectations from coaches and teammates

669
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: for your schedule and everything else. But finally it's sort

670
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: of a reversal of things. The WNBA is catching up

671
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: to college in terms of like facilities and resources. For

672
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: such a long time, that was one thing that players

673
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: had to adjust to with sometimes being much better treated,

674
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: flying better, better resources, training facilities, everything at the college level.

675
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: But thankfully that's changing at the w Is there still

676
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of that that they have to adjust to,

677
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: or maybe just being up an adult who's in charge

678
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: of themselves.

679
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think some of it is dependent on franchise.

680
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, some franchises are in the process of you know,

681
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: we're seeing the renderings of the Dallas practice facility or

682
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: New York's practice facility. But certainly the adjustment now with

683
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: the charter flights is much much easier than it was

684
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: for you know, players who hadn't flown commercially, you know,

685
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: their entire than their entire college career, you know. But

686
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: like it's that's a big piece of it too, is

687
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: like you have a lot more time now and when

688
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: you oftentimes, like when you're in college and you go

689
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: on a road trip, you know you have they give

690
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: you your itinerary. You know, you where you're supposed to be.

691
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: You're having team meals together, and you're with other people

692
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: who are about your age. And that was one of

693
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: the big things for me my early in my pro

694
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: career is like you're on your own on the road,

695
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: you find your own meals and like this person's off

696
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: with their husband or partner and this person's like, you know,

697
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: talking to their child and I'm, you know, twenty three

698
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: years old, Like wait a minute, what's going on here?

699
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: So that piece of it is something to navigate too.

700
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: What you need is one you need one teammate who

701
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: you really get along with, who you go to meals with.

702
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: You you need what I have now with my Ryan

703
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: and Holland Yeah, like because it's so much time friends

704
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: and family you need one road dog. And if you

705
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: have that one person, and if you know you both

706
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: like the same shows, you both like to read whatever

707
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: it is, you desperately need that one person to make

708
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: it all easier.

709
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think sometimes teams certainly look to that.

710
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: You know, Connor Bedard in the Blackhawks here in Chicago

711
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: was eighteen when he joined the team, and they were

712
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: going to give him a roommate at first, and he

713
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: was like, no, I'm all right, but like they ended

714
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: up putting in a building with some vets that also

715
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: lived in the building. The building has like the kind

716
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: of amenities that you don't have to leave to really

717
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: do anything, because it's tough to be a kid who's

718
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: suddenly living in a new city alone. And so I

719
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: think teams usually are pretty good about figuring out how

720
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: to at least kind of put you around other people

721
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: that will help you learn just how to be an adult.

722
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Do you being a dentist and.

723
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: You know, like and that's a piece of it too,

724
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: Like you know, as the medities get better, that includes

725
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: like dentists and doctors, all those all those like insurance.

726
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: They have to like you when you're in college, like

727
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: all of your medical stuff is taken care of.

728
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: Well.

729
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: Now that you're a pro, like you you need an

730
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: insurance card if you go to the doctor, you better

731
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: have that a near on you, you know. So like it's

732
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: just it's just different.

733
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: Last couple here, How do you see pagebackers game translating

734
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: to the pros.

735
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: I think it's going to translate beautifully. I think it's

736
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: going to translate beautifully. I thought Caitlyn's was going to

737
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: translate beautifully as well, and it did. It just took

738
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: some time for her to adjust to it all. But

739
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, Page can get to any spot on the floor.

740
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: We've seen her navigate pick and roll so well she

741
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, will she experience some of the defensive attention

742
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: that Caitlyn did. Yes, but she's going to have a

743
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: rique alongside or so, you know, no double teams are

744
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: coming off a RIQUE. So I think her game and

745
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: I think the efficiency part of it will translate as well.

746
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: I mean that that's the part that that was not

747
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: talked about nearly enough. If it wasn't for her, you know,

748
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: in the last three or four games missing some free throws,

749
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: she would have been our first fifty to forty ninety

750
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: player who led the nation and assist the turnover ratio

751
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: like it's ridiculous, and I think her efficiency will translate.

752
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I think it'll actually be a good sign if her

753
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: efficiency decreases a little bit, because that'll mean she's hunting

754
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: shots more. But her personality, her teammates are going to

755
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: love her. She's going to fit in seamlessly to what

756
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Dallas already has. And she has such a varied skill

757
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: set already a really good defender, has put on weight

758
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: since she got to college, gotten stronger. I think she's

759
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: going to be at a high level really really quickly.

760
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: And it's just fund seeing the Dallas players so excited

761
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: for her to get there because they know she's covered,

762
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: so they're Yeah. Among the projected top picks, we've got

763
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: French Unicorn, the six to six, Dominique Malongo, We've got

764
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Guard, Sonya Citron usc Big Kiki Eria Fen

765
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: Tcu guard, Hayley Van Liz, Let's use Anissa Moro. Those

766
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: are some big names. Who are a few players that

767
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: you think will make an immediate impact in the w

768
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: you see playing time right away.

769
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: That really depends on where they go, right you know,

770
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: So if you Connecticut as back to back picks in

771
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: the middle of the first round that would be in

772
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: real players. No players, Yeah, I mean they lost their

773
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: starting five. And that's the put up part that can

774
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: be hard for kids on draft day. Do not worry

775
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: about where you go. You know, you want to go

776
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: somewhere where you're going to have an opportunity one to

777
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: make the team and then to to to be able

778
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: to play. And so players going and not only Dallas

779
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: because obviously Page is going to play right away, but

780
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: they have picks twelve and fourteen. Twelve and fourteen can

781
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: both make that Dallas roster and have an opportunity to

782
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: compete to be in the rotation. So that's the kind

783
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: of the piece that we're all watching too, not just

784
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: you know who goes where. And by the way, Malonga

785
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: is an incredible talent. I encourage people to google her

786
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: and watch video of her because holy cow, she could

787
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: be pretty incredible in Seattle. So I think Page and

788
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: Malonga are two. I think Citron again, you know, projected

789
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: to Washington. Well, that's another place you want to go,

790
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: because you want to go to a team that's rebuilding

791
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: and wants to invest playing time in their younger pieces,

792
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: you know so, you would it be great for whoever

793
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: goes thirteen to Vegas because you're going to get to compete. Yes,

794
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: Are you going to get much playing time?

795
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: Probably not.

796
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: You're you're seen as a player for the future, which

797
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: will be great for you as long as you're ready

798
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: to assume that role, you know so, so we'll see,

799
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: you know, those are the all of the pieces that

800
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: fall into place. That's that's pretty exciting.

801
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's going to be just so much

802
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: excitement heading into that season with the Valkyries getting started,

803
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: with the pagebackers and these young players we've been watching

804
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: all season long getting their first crack at the pro games.

805
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: So we're just so pumped. Thanks so much for helping

806
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: us get ready for it, and thanks so much for

807
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: looking back at what was an incredible college season. Thank you,

808
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: thank you, Thanks so much to Rebecca for joining us again.

809
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we return, but

810
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: the fact is back. Welcome back, Slices. It's time for

811
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: another What the fact, Like we just talked about with Rebecca,

812
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: the college hoops season is over, which means the WNBA

813
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: season is rapidly approaching, and after a twenty twenty four

814
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: season that saw all but three of the league's twelve

815
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: teams led by women coaches, Twenty twenty five will start

816
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: with six men at the head of the bench. Five

817
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: female coaches, including two of the three black women in charge,

818
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: lost their head coaching gigs in twenty twenty four. Four

819
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: of those women were replaced by men. Indiana Stephanie White

820
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: is the outlier. She parted ways with the Connecticut Sun

821
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: and then was named the head coach of the Indiana Fever.

822
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: For a league whose players have long champion diversity and

823
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: inclusion and where more than seventy percent identify as players

824
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: of color per the latest TIDES report, and we're an

825
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: extreme majority of those folks identify as women. These coaching

826
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: don't feel great. Throw in the fact that WNBA Legend

827
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, eight time All Star and two time

828
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Champ Lisa Leslie interviewed for two different head coaching vacancies

829
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: this offseason, and when she didn't get either, told Chicago's

830
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Guy Forward Angel Rees on her podcast quote, I will

831
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: never make another attempt to go into coaching in the

832
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: WNBA end quote, Well, then the eyebrows really start raising. Now,

833
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: we of course don't know for certain why Leslie didn't

834
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: get the job or what the interview was like, and

835
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: we certainly know that those men that got those jobs

836
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: aren't immediately incompetent because of their gender. But these facts

837
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: do illuminate the truth that the league has a lot

838
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: of work to do to ensure that the folks playing

839
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: the game are represented by the folks leading them. Remember

840
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: those last two teams standing and unrivaled coach by the

841
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: two women coaches. I'm just saying there's also a precedent

842
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,399
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843
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: first season back in ninety seven, nine out of ten

844
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: head coaches were women. So it'd be nice to have

845
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: a return to that era because there are so many

846
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,880
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Speaker 1: cheers review. Amazon Prime Video has greenlit a three part

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Speaker 1: Simply Tarassi. It's a Prime Video Sports and sky Dance

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Speaker 1: my friend Kate Fagan is one of the executive producers.

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Speaker 1: see you next week. Good game, Rebecca, Good game. Three

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Speaker 1: weeks off. You kids and their schedules, and they're always

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Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports

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Speaker 1: production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network,

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Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez, and Grace Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Lucy Jones and I'm Your host

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