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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight firefam HiT's me Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 2: April eighteenth. The NBA was not as good as the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference, but we knew that was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Really really interesting victory for the Sixers. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we'll spend much time on Bulls Hawks, but I do

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Speaker 2: want to start before we get to the NBA with

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Speaker 2: a really fascinating story on Caitlin Clark. And I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: for those of you who are over Kitlin Clark. You

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Speaker 2: can just bear with me for ninety seconds. So I

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Speaker 2: do remember after they lost to South Carolina, a lot

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Speaker 2: of people saying she should stay in college, she should

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Speaker 2: not go to the WNBA. The salary is like seventy

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Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars a year. Some of her college teammates

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Speaker 2: might get better jobs in sales, like don't go to

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Speaker 2: then there's more money to be made in college with

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Speaker 2: the nil Okay, I heard it. I laughed, I scoffed.

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Speaker 2: I said, you guys are crazy. Do you know what

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Speaker 2: endorsement money is? Like that's a real thing, and everybody's

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Speaker 2: so well, no, you can't get endorsement money in the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: Do you understand what's happening right now with Kaitlin Clark.

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Speaker 2: Just to put it in perspective, Okay, the TV ratings

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Speaker 2: for the NBA WNBA draft were like four times what

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Speaker 2: they were, the highest one ever. Okay, and this is

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Speaker 2: the Kaitlin Clark impact. Yes, obviously people were tuning in

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Speaker 2: for some of the other people, but not in the

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Speaker 2: it was. It was driven fully by Kitlin Clark. Regardless

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Speaker 2: of what you want to think about Angel Reese and

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Speaker 2: the girl from South Carolina and Cameron bh blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: it's all Kaitlin Clark. And this is how interesting it got.

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Speaker 2: Some of these like high end female company Prada sells

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Speaker 2: a lot of women's fashion, Gucci versus. All these big

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Speaker 2: high end fashion companies noticed what was happening and they said,

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Speaker 2: ooh oh, let me, let me make link up with

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Speaker 2: Kitlin clarka we'll get her in Prada and we'll get

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Speaker 2: massive free publicity on the red carpet when she's on

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Speaker 2: the stage and the afterword blah blah blah blah. Those companies,

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Speaker 2: those businesses, by the way, which print money, saw the

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark phenomenon and jumped on it. Well, you know

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Speaker 2: who else jumping on board? Nike kind of a decent

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Speaker 2: company in the apparel space, right, Apparently, according to the

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Speaker 2: Athletic under Armour, an Adidas made huge pitches for Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark and she's ultimately gonna sign a lucrative eight figure

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Speaker 2: endorsement deal with Nike. Yes, it's true, Kaitlyn Clark is

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Speaker 2: getting paid. You guys can talk about Nio money on

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Speaker 2: you want, and that's an iol. Money's great. You know,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, the quarterback at USC, A lot of guys

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Speaker 2: are making you know, nice money. I'm sure two, three,

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Speaker 2: four or five six, maybe seven million dollars. Okay, Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark is going to destroy and obliterate that with this

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Speaker 2: deal with Nike. Okay, Now, I don't know the history

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Speaker 2: of WNBA players getting into the league and instantly getting

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Speaker 2: a ton of sponsors. She Caitlin Crk already has endorsement

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Speaker 2: deals with Gatorade, State Farm and Panini. Okay, She's now

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Speaker 2: gonna get in with Iowa. Kaitlin Clark is the business.

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Speaker 2: I tried to explain this guys, the business of Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift was a thing. She would go to certain cities

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Speaker 2: on this tour and the economy would just surge people

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Speaker 2: to flock to the city hotels, airfare, restaurants. This is

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Speaker 2: I'm not making this up. That Wall Street Journal many

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Speaker 2: outlets have written about the Taylor Swift impact. This on

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Speaker 2: a lesser extent is gonna start happening with Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna fill out arenas And I know, Jason, it's

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Speaker 2: just a blip. It's just a rookie year. Oh that's fine, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's just the rookie year. Maybe it extends beyond that.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, Like, I don't know why you would say something, Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just gonna be the rookie year. That it's back

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Speaker 2: to reality. I'm sure that's possible, but you know, us

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Speaker 2: as possible that this thing continues to grow and snowballs

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Speaker 2: Clayland Clark becomes I don't know, is she gonna be

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Speaker 2: I should I didn't want to say this name, but like,

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Speaker 2: is she gonna have a Michael Jordan type impact on

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Speaker 2: women's sports? That's possible. Now we saw like the women's

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Speaker 2: US soccer team had a major moment when they're winning

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Speaker 2: was like Alex Morgan was a thing, and Rippino was

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Speaker 2: It was like a team effort. This is Kaitland Clark.

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Speaker 2: the other players matter and they're interesting. This is all

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Speaker 2: the collectible's card space. He is. It happens to be

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Speaker 2: and he has been loading up on Caitlin Clark cards

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Speaker 2: last I don't know, twelve months. Just absolutely go to

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Speaker 2: the moon for Kitlin Clark cards and apparel. Now, of

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Speaker 2: course I'm an idiot. I missed all this stuff. But

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Speaker 2: you can only invest in so many things, you know,

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Speaker 2: the Mexican soccer team takes up a lot of my time.

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Speaker 2: That's honestly my top priority outside of the work in

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Speaker 2: the podcast. But I'm just saying, let's just be real.

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Speaker 2: The Caitlin Clark business is going to be a thing.

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Speaker 2: She's going to be everywhere. And if she backs it

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Speaker 2: to I don't know she first team all WNBA. Is

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Speaker 2: she gonna be in the MVP mix? Somebody told me

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Speaker 2: she's fourth in MVP odds as a rookie already hasn't

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Speaker 2: played a game. Now, listen, wem ben Yama had a

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Speaker 2: big impact. Everybody's excited to see wehm bin Yama. Oh

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Speaker 2: First week, everybody's excited. Ben Yama delivered. Wem ben Yama delivered.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loves it. But this is different TV people, fans, apparel,

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Speaker 2: little weird. He's not gonna have. He's not gonna move

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Speaker 2: just need you guys to understand that because this is,

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Speaker 2: like overnight, people are into it. It works when we

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Speaker 2: put Kaitlin Clark in the headline for this podcast, it

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Speaker 2: will help do numbers because there is a large segment

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Speaker 2: of the population that's just into anything Kaitlin Clark. They

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Speaker 2: want to consume at all. So we're not gonna force

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Speaker 2: feed you Kaitlin Cark. We're gonna give you the good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just telling you right now. If you heard

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Speaker 2: they don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the NBA where the seventy six

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Speaker 2: is in middle school. Saying, and I feel old that

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Speaker 2: even saying it out loud. But the seventy six ers

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Speaker 2: look like dog water in the first half at home,

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Speaker 2: scoring a minuscule thirty nine points. They took an early

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Speaker 2: and I was donn Nick Nurse looked like he had

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Speaker 2: no idea what he was doing. The Sixers were fluck summoned. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the word. Joel Embiid was confused. They were turning

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Speaker 2: be honest, I did not know. He was still like

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Speaker 2: a factor. But Nick Batoom, who's thirty five, almost thirty

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Speaker 2: quarter and just starts splashing threes. And of all the people,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't Tyreese Maxy, it wasn't Kelly Ubray, certainly was

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Speaker 2: not Tobias Harris, and Embiid was struggling Nick Batoom. And

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Speaker 2: we just said this the other night. Boy Keegan Murray

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Speaker 2: sure picked a fine time to score thirty two points

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Speaker 2: and help the Kings. Okay, boy, Nick batoum sure picked

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Speaker 2: a fine time for a season high twenty points to

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Speaker 2: I think trail by twelve and Batum just kept firing,

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Speaker 2: hit six threes season high, twenty points season high, and

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Speaker 2: then in the fourth quarter, close game, it Joel Embiid

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Speaker 2: finally delivers. I know, Joel Embiid delivering in a big

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Speaker 2: game in the postseason, somewhat rare. He did have twenty

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Speaker 2: you got it on that action. I'll just say this

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Speaker 2: a it looked like a rock fight in the first half.

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Speaker 2: I mean, thirty nine points, Like I don't want no

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Speaker 2: thank you. It was ugly. The rest called two fouls

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Speaker 2: Now here's the interesting thing. So Jimmy Butler somebody landed

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Speaker 2: he was down. I didn't know if he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to continue. He ends up five of eighteen shooting.

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Speaker 2: Now we know Jimmy Butler's a warrior, Jimmy Bucket's playoff Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: He finished with nineteen five ass his four rebounds, five steals.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the numbers are good, but he was down

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Speaker 2: he just couldn't move as quick and they had to

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Speaker 2: run through Tyler Hero. Listen, when Tyler Hero is jacking

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Speaker 2: twenty seven shots, you're probably not winning. Now here's what's

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Speaker 2: fascinating about the heat down the stretch due to the

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Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and then high Smith and the rookie Hotkez

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Speaker 2: that guy's a player. That guy really can go. He

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Speaker 2: was no fear going right at MBAT he ended up

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Speaker 2: with fifteen. I thought he had a really good game

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Speaker 2: fifteen and twenty two minutes. Remember Tyler Hero twenty five

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Speaker 2: points on twenty seven shots. No, he did distribute well,

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Speaker 2: but he also had five turnovers. I don't know. You guys,

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Speaker 2: remember my one remaining season long bet that's out there

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Speaker 2: is will the Heat make the playoff? Well it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Will they make it? Yes or no? It was Heat,

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Speaker 2: no playoffs. And if you're the Heat and Terry Rozier's

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Speaker 2: not ready to get back, he's not gonna Duncan Robinson

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know how they win and then

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Speaker 2: the Heat missed, but some kind of sort of rooting

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Speaker 2: for the Heat to lose in their next playing game.

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Speaker 2: I will talk quickly about the Sixers chances against the Knicks,

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Speaker 2: because I did say on here on the Herd I

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Speaker 2: like the Knicks in that series. I do. I know

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Speaker 2: you guys can say what you want about Joel Embiid

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Speaker 2: being back. He does not look like he's one hundred

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Speaker 2: thirty games, forty games. You're just not gonna be back overnight.

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Speaker 2: Good luck putting Batom on Jalen Brunson. Now the counter,

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Speaker 2: told one of my buddies that I think an interesting parlay,

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Speaker 2: Now you just have to hope that Jannis misses more games.

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Speaker 2: I found it interesting that on Monday, Okay, they announced

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Speaker 2: the Tray Young audition tape, Hey Lakers, any interest in

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Speaker 2: no defense playing Tray Young? Who got lit the bleep

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Speaker 2: Keegan Murray. I referenced him earlier. Keegan Murray was a

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Speaker 2: You know, I listen. Obviously, the playoffs are a referendum

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Speaker 2: to one game, it can sometimes be unfair. But rob

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Speaker 2: I have not seen much out of him at either end.

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Speaker 2: a thirty to ten guy. Those are hollow numbers. This

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Speaker 2: team is underachieved woefully the last two years. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that Trey Young's gotten better. I'll be honest. If

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Speaker 2: I'm the Lakers, I'm like, no, thanks. I don't know, Rob,

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Speaker 2: So I just don't see how Trey Young does much.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he thrives alongside Ad with the spacing, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know, man, I just disappointing performance against a not

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Speaker 3: I have zero interested in Trey Young becoming a Laker.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the hashtag future Laker moniker is only reserved

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Speaker 3: for the best of the best, and Trey Young, despite

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Speaker 3: his stats, just does not meet that criteria. Look, just

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Speaker 3: And this might be the most damning part of all

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Speaker 3: to Jontey Murray. There across two seasons, they will have

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Speaker 3: played in five total playoff games and were a minus

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Speaker 3: fourteen point eight during those five games. This pairing doesn't work.

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Speaker 3: Your two point guards doesn't work. And the biggest reason

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Speaker 3: Like I don't got to be in the Atlanta Hawks

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Speaker 3: locker room to watch a game and watch their body language,

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Speaker 3: and you can tell that there's just something about him

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Speaker 3: more for him, given his accomplishment and the fact that

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Speaker 3: pretty regularly. Is something that would appeal to a lot

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Speaker 3: case probably have to be like Austin Reeves Hotcha Morroll

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Speaker 3: who doesn't play defense and isn't as good of a

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Speaker 3: sure he's gonna be in a new uniform. Stay far

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I come on, no way, Even if the idea

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work. As for the Bulls. Alex Caruso injuries bad.

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Speaker 2: he's eight of guy to look like an All Star

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, you give me like a

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Speaker 2: take him over Trey Young again, like if you want

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Speaker 2: to say, okay, the Detroit Pistons are like gonna move kid,

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Speaker 2: Like okay, you can try that, like good luck, but

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Speaker 2: where where does he exactly fit? There's no playoff? Like

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Speaker 2: you could make an argument that the Orlando Magic, but

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Speaker 2: Young business? I just don't see the team now. Maybe

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Speaker 2: there's some wacky scenario where the paper clips say we're

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Speaker 2: gonna let trade away Paul George, We're gonna let go

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the scenario, But Rob, I challenge you to

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: It's funny that you bring that up, because just a

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Speaker 3: on bleacher Report suggesting this exact thing, Like you know,

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Speaker 3: assuming that the Hawks don't make the playoffs, the officially

423
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Speaker 3: eliminated what's next for Trey Young? Where could he wind up?

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Speaker 3: And the first team on the list has been the

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Speaker 3: case for almost everybody is the Lakers because of the

426
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Speaker 3: clutchboards connection and basically anybody's ripped by clutches linked to

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Speaker 3: the Lakers. There are only other two other teams on

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Speaker 3: his list. Okay, one of them, I'm not too excited

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Speaker 3: about one of them. I'm very excited about. The second

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Speaker 3: team he listed was the Brooklyn Nets. The Brooklyn Nets

431
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Speaker 3: are at a stage right now where they just want

432
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Speaker 3: to be relevant, right like they clearly do not have

433
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Speaker 3: a team that's built to win. Mcal Bridges is a

434
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Speaker 3: fine player, but if he's your best player, then you

435
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Speaker 3: are not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, wait, they got they got Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 3: And Ben Simmons' contract, and they have all those Houston

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Speaker 3: Rockets picks. So if you really wanted to take a

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Speaker 3: swing for Trey Young, you attach the massive expiring deal

440
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Speaker 3: of Ben Simmons and whatever else you got to do.

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Speaker 3: You can hold on to mackel Bridges, you can hold

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Speaker 3: on at Cameron Johnson, you can hold on to a

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Speaker 3: number of Hell, you could even throw in Cam Thomas

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Speaker 3: if you really wanted to, cause you think he gets

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Speaker 3: bucket because you think their their skill sets are kind

446
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Speaker 3: of duplicate. But you can throw in a pretty easy

447
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Speaker 3: way to match the contract because of the Ben Simmons

448
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Speaker 3: and you have the Houston pick. So for a relatively

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Speaker 3: low risk, you can take Trey Young and surround him

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Speaker 3: with wing defenders. And that's basically the only way that

451
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Speaker 3: he's gonna work is yet to have people who can

452
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Speaker 3: cover up for him. The other team that was brought

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Speaker 3: up is the one I'm actually was excited about is

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Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs, because all they would have to

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Speaker 3: do basically is say, here, Atlanta, take back all your

456
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Speaker 3: first round picks that you gave us for de Jonte Murray,

457
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Speaker 3: so you can truly bought him out and you have

458
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Speaker 3: an incentive then to tank because of the way things

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Speaker 3: are right now. If you don't own your own picks,

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Speaker 3: you have no reason to want to tank, and if

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Speaker 3: you are San Antonio, when Benyama is obviously the real deal,

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Speaker 3: he's ahead of schedule even more than I think even

463
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Speaker 3: the staunchest defenders thought he would be. All they really

464
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Speaker 3: need is a point guard, is someone to get him

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Speaker 3: the ball and let him be the freak of nature

466
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Speaker 3: that he is. And Trey Young, for all of his faults,

467
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: can set people up with the best of him, and

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Speaker 3: Victor Wambognan is going to cover up a lot of

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Speaker 3: his defensive issues. So right off the bat, the team

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Speaker 3: that I will be keeping an eye on this summer

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Speaker 3: is definitely San Antonio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the idea. Do you remember when Popovich

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Speaker 2: got started to get pissed with Kawhi Leonard for being

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Speaker 2: soft and they didn't understand his injury that he said

475
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: he was hurt, but like the doctors couldn't find anything.

476
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Speaker 2: How's he going to handle the softness of Trey Young?

477
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Speaker 2: Who just I mean, he just whinds a lot. And

478
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Speaker 2: remember this is a guy who was basically traded for

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. It would be poetic justice if Luka Doncic

480
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Speaker 2: won the title or went to the finals. And oh look,

481
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Speaker 2: the guy that he was traded for, Trey Young, is

482
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Speaker 2: gonna is about to get dubbed by the Hawks. Like man,

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Speaker 2: that is the NBA is just wild, all right, So

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll come back tomorrow with official Well I

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Speaker 2: guess no, we'd have to wait till Monday for the

486
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Speaker 2: official playoffics. We might as well get him in now,

487
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Speaker 2: Rob because the final playing games are Friday and obviously

488
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Speaker 2: no podcast Saturday. Who you got? Who you got? Coming

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Speaker 2: out of the East and West, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, the way that the brackets shape up has really

491
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Speaker 3: shaped my opinion. I was not as high on the

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Speaker 3: Mavericks as you were entering this postseason, but the way

493
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Speaker 3: things have shaken out, Kawhi Leonard's very iffy. They avoid

494
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Speaker 3: Denver until potentially the Western Conference finals. I feel really

495
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Speaker 3: good about, you know, taking Denver's easy option. But if

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make some money, I'm definitely putting it

497
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Speaker 3: down on Luca Dodgies and the mask coming out of

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Speaker 3: the West in the Eastern Conference, I think it's Boston

499
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Speaker 3: and everybody else. So give me Boston, give me the chalkiness,

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Speaker 3: and I'll take care.

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Speaker 2: If you had to pick someone other than Boston, though,

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Speaker 2: who would it be?

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Speaker 1: The New York Knicks?

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Speaker 2: Really? I love so you think Knicks take down the

505
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Speaker 2: six Sixers.

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Speaker 3: Huh yeah, I mean we saw from the Sixers last

507
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Speaker 3: night that for all the things that we love about

508
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Speaker 3: Joellenbiat in the regular season, that just does never, never

509
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: seems to, you know, show up in the postseason, like

510
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: all the things that you love about him, the foul

511
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Speaker 3: merchanting and the sweet jumper, anything like that, Like when

512
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Speaker 3: you outweigh your next closest defender by sixty pounds and

513
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 3: you're insisting on staying at the top of the key

514
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Speaker 3: and the free throw line, Like I don't understand that.

515
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Speaker 3: And it seems like, you know, the narrative on social

516
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Speaker 3: media and he's like he's a regular season player. I

517
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Speaker 3: wouldn't go that far, but he definitely does not play

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Speaker 3: up to his full capabilities in the postseason. And I

519
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Speaker 3: think the New York Knicks are one of those scrappy

520
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Speaker 3: teams where no matter who they're going against is gonna

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get their pound of flesh from them.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, how about the the storyline of oh, Joel embiid,

523
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Speaker 2: you're gonna lose in the first round to the next

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Speaker 2: do you want to go there now? Isn't that Verry

525
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Speaker 2: Kevin Duranty?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but if they the first to get there,

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Speaker 3: it would be different than a free agent move.

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Speaker 2: Well, if he demands out, oh yeah, because I mean

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Speaker 2: if they lose in the first round, you know more,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna lay, Okay, who do you want Paul George?

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Speaker 2: You want Paul George? Or go get Paul George And

532
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: he'll try to convince them that they have and they

533
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Speaker 2: have the money to get out of the Max guy.

534
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Speaker 2: But is that going to be enough for Joel and beaters?

535
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: He just be like, guys, we've gone backwards essentially, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I think officially is now the

537
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Speaker 2: new most interesting first round series over mas Clippers. Obviously

538
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Speaker 2: Bucks Pacers is interesting, but the Jannis injury changes things.

539
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Speaker 2: I just I'm very curious if Joel Embiid loses this series.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Nick Batomb can't bail him out, does

541
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Speaker 2: he ask out? Is he just like guys we tried,

542
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Speaker 2: you know, And I got no problem with these guys

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Speaker 2: asking out. I just I think that's super fascinating. Now,

544
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: if the Knicks lose, well, Jylan Brunson can't do it,

545
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: and by himself, well, come on, he lost his Robin

546
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: and Julius Randall like he shouldn't have even been able

547
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Speaker 2: to get the number two seeds. So playoffs start this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I will I will go MAVs Celtics in the finals.

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00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: You're right, it's too easy to pick the Nuggets. I

550
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Speaker 2: think upsets. I think the Suns win over the Timberwolves.

551
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Speaker 2: I do think okay See will win against whoever they play,

552
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: And the tough one is Nuggets Lakers. I'll go for

553
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: two Nuggets. I think Lakers can get too often. I

554
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 2: don't think the Nuggets are as bulletproof as they were

555
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: last year. And in the East. If I'm looking upset,

556
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Speaker 2: like I said earlier, Pacers, I think they could take

557
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: down the Bucks. But Hawks. Let me down on Wednesday. Man, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's it for today. We are back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you then,