Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Pre recording from the Home Bunker, Folks,
Speaker 1: As we close out the year and go into just
Speaker 1: you know a little bit of hibernation relaxation for the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, we have done some amazing interviews
Speaker 1: to leave you with as you are hopefully resting and
Speaker 1: relaxing with family, friends, or solo or with the fur baby.
Speaker 1: Today's conversation is with one of my longtime favorites, the
Speaker 1: Reverend Mark Thompson and host of Make It Plain, joins
Speaker 1: us today to you know, provide a retrospective on where
Speaker 1: we find ourselves at the end of this year, as
Speaker 1: we embark on twenty twenty four, where black people the
Speaker 1: Black vote, where we think that is headed. We've all
Speaker 1: experienced a lot and been through a lot, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing on guests over the break to kind of
Speaker 1: give their final thoughts as we head into what I
Speaker 1: believe is going to probably be the craziest, wildest, most
Speaker 1: you know, anxiety filled year in our lives, in this
Speaker 1: country's history. This is going to be one for the books,
Speaker 1: and it's why I continue to say that folks need
Speaker 1: to take such good care of themselves. I've been having
Speaker 1: internal conversations with myself about my health, about my rest,
Speaker 1: about all of the things that I'm going to need
Speaker 1: to have the stamina to get through. And you know,
Speaker 1: this conversation is one of those things that give me
Speaker 1: a boost, and I hope that it does the same
Speaker 1: for you. Coming up next, my conversation with our friend
Speaker 1: Mark Thompson. Folks, you know that whenever we have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to get our friend, the Reverend Mark Thompson, the
Speaker 1: host of Make It Plain back on wok F daily,
Speaker 1: which people ask for you, Mark, I am always appreciated that.
Speaker 1: I wish you can see his faith and reaction, surprise
Speaker 1: and excitement they ask for you. Particularly, I get DMed about,
Speaker 1: Oh when is when is Mark coming back on? And
Speaker 1: that is that is true?
Speaker 2: Mark?
Speaker 1: You know, as we close out this year, you know,
Speaker 1: I am filled with a lot as many people are,
Speaker 1: a lot of worry, a lot of anxiety, a lot
Speaker 1: of grief. I think that over the last several years
Speaker 1: we have experienced so much collective trauma at the hands
Speaker 1: of the MAGA supremacists, at the experience of living through
Speaker 1: a pandemic, experiencing now multiple wars that we are actually
Speaker 1: in modern time seeing the images and the videos in
Speaker 1: real time. This is unlike other past conflicts, crises and
Speaker 1: wars that we have had. With the exposure and the
Speaker 1: usage of social media, people are very weary, as I
Speaker 1: know I am, and I wanted to get a sense
Speaker 1: from you as you're thinking now, as we always do
Speaker 1: a retrospective on the year, how are you closing it out?
Speaker 1: What are you feeling and what are you hearing from
Speaker 1: folks on the ground.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, pleasure to be with you and.
Speaker 3: Thankful anytime to be sought after and missed, particularly by
Speaker 3: your audience. Maybe that means I'm doing one thing right
Speaker 3: in my life. We're at a we are at a
Speaker 3: very dangerous place, and I think that with the crisis
Speaker 3: going on in the world, the crisis everyone's focused on.
Speaker 3: No one is paying attention to the Sudan or Congo. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: you know, people to mainstream me to decide what's important.
Speaker 2: But in terms of the crisis, what's going on. It
Speaker 2: has messed up the world.
Speaker 3: Communities are divided, cultures are divided, households are divided, even
Speaker 3: amongst some of my Jewish friends. So the good news is,
Speaker 3: for the first time in history, you have a massive
Speaker 3: response with regards to what's going on in Gaza and
Speaker 3: a demand that the Israeli Defense Force be held accountable
Speaker 3: for what's going on in Gaza. Obviously their responses are
Speaker 3: what about harmas well? What Harmas did was a surprise attack.
Speaker 3: If anybody knew in advance what Hammas was going to do,
Speaker 3: everybody would have said no to that Harmas happened. Now
Speaker 3: we've known in advance every day what's going on in Gaza,
Speaker 3: and people are aren't happy about it.
Speaker 2: This. When this happened October seventh.
Speaker 3: I immediately became concerned because I realized the impact this
Speaker 3: could have on our domestic politics here in this country.
Speaker 3: And so it took me back to the day in
Speaker 3: the moment I lost my childhood innocence, Danielle. Now, a
Speaker 3: lot of people can probably tell various stories about how
Speaker 3: they lost their childhood innocence, but this is how I
Speaker 3: lost mind. I was I was always very interested in
Speaker 3: the news, interested in politics, interested in the world, interested
Speaker 3: in journalism, interested in public theology. So at a very
Speaker 3: young age I was up on stuff. I can remember Watergate,
Speaker 3: even though I was just a kid, I remember seeing
Speaker 3: it on television and getting some of that. January twenty,
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, when Ronald Reagan lowers his hand, lowered
Speaker 3: his left hand and took his right hand off the Bible.
Speaker 3: The next words out of his mouth were, the hostages
Speaker 3: are now freed. And we had been through an over
Speaker 3: year long ordeal every day day, two hundred day, three
Speaker 3: hundred day, four hundred of the hostages. We knew who
Speaker 3: Reagan was and what he would do, but would helpless
Speaker 3: to stop him because of.
Speaker 2: The hostage crisis.
Speaker 3: And so someone who most would consider even as he
Speaker 3: is in hospice, if not then now would consider very
Speaker 3: decent man lost the White House. When Reagan said that,
Speaker 3: I said, wait a minute, how are you making this announcement?
Speaker 3: You just took the oath of office. What are you doing?
Speaker 3: How do you know that? What do you as if?
Speaker 3: Almost as if he was taking credit.
Speaker 2: For it right.
Speaker 3: We later learned through the great journalists with Newsweek, Robert Perry,
Speaker 3: who passed away recently himself, that Reagan had sent George H. W.
Speaker 3: Bush and William Casey to Paris to meet with the
Speaker 3: Ayatola to have him keep the hostages. The term October
Speaker 3: Surprise is actually a misnoman. That wasn't the October Surprise.
Speaker 3: The Reagan and people were afraid that Carter had in
Speaker 3: October Surprise and would rescue the hostages. That what they
Speaker 3: did was actually a prevention of the October Surprise. At
Speaker 3: that time, the Bushes had a close relation with the
Speaker 3: ben Ladens, and hw and Casey flew to Paris to
Speaker 3: meet with Ayatola on Osama bin Laden's father's plane.
Speaker 2: But that's another conversation.
Speaker 3: So when I saw this October seventh, and I'm looking
Speaker 3: at Joe Biden, I said, this is about more than
Speaker 3: what we think it is. Why Because then Yahoo and
Speaker 3: Putin have a relationship. Putin and Trump have a relationship. Trump,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Putin, I'm sorry Yahoo. Then Yahoo is the
Speaker 3: Trump of Israel, under investigation, potentially under trial.
Speaker 2: Nobody likes it.
Speaker 3: Nine eleven resurrected the political career of Giuliani and w Bush.
Speaker 3: October seventh, as He's called it, our own nine eleven.
Speaker 3: That's what Nen Yahoo calls it. Residents is political fortune.
Speaker 3: Although I don't think it's working because what the news
Speaker 3: isn't reporting is all of the family members of hostages.
Speaker 1: And protests that are happening all over all over the country.
Speaker 3: Who can who can in an effort to root out
Speaker 3: Hamas kill hostages? I mean mass with Jimmy Carter said,
Speaker 3: you know, we just gonna blow up in around and
Speaker 3: killed all the hostages. No, so there's that putin, and
Speaker 3: then y'all have such a relationship. That's why even though
Speaker 3: at least the third of the Ukraine is Jewish and
Speaker 3: Zelensky is Jewish, you haven't seen Israel anywhere near the
Speaker 3: Ukraine and its defense.
Speaker 2: And so this is very troubling. I think the Biden administration, I.
Speaker 3: Think they know everything I'm saying, but they have to
Speaker 3: walk very thin line because in this country, one believes
Speaker 3: that you have to show unconditional support for Israel to
Speaker 3: win the Jewish electorate.
Speaker 2: But I think they're missing something.
Speaker 3: I think that's changed because I've been in the streets
Speaker 3: with Jews here in America. You know, we live at
Speaker 3: this technological age, so people in the past people to
Speaker 3: have cell phones, people don't have access. There was no Algazier.
Speaker 3: So people a saying, wait a minute, my so called
Speaker 3: homeland is killing these people mercilessly. It's disproportionate to what
Speaker 3: happened on October seventh, and a population that is a
Speaker 3: majority of young people.
Speaker 2: Half population in gazas is kids.
Speaker 3: So what are we really doing here? Not only are
Speaker 3: we risking in defense of their human rights, risking democracy here,
Speaker 3: because that's what we're doing. Every time someone says I'm
Speaker 3: not going to vote for Biden because of what's going
Speaker 3: on in Gaza, you're you're risking democracy here.
Speaker 2: What do you think Trump's gonna do? I've even had to,
Speaker 2: you know, say some of my palstending friends, Oh, you.
Speaker 3: Don't get in if you ever mentioned I said, well,
Speaker 3: but what you also have to understand we got to
Speaker 3: fight this battle on both fronts. We can't allow Trump.
Speaker 3: What do you think Trump's gonna do. He's already said
Speaker 3: he's gonna do a Muslim band. You know he's gonna
Speaker 3: support whatever this is nen Yahoo's doing because the three name.
Speaker 2: But y'all just googled net and Yahoo and putin and then.
Speaker 3: He hit Google images and his mind blowing, there's more
Speaker 3: pictures than the am together, than me and Danielle and
Speaker 3: so not exaggerating, this is the pictures coming over me
Speaker 3: I've never seen so many pictures on Google of two
Speaker 3: people together. I'm talking about spouses and couples. I've never
Speaker 3: seen it. So I think we're in trouble. Michigan is vulnerable,
Speaker 3: and I think what this White House is gonna have
Speaker 3: to do is is yesterday, resolve this, shut this down,
Speaker 3: because this is only helping the three people I named Trump,
Speaker 3: n Yahu and putin.
Speaker 1: You know the thing, though, Mark, is that first of all,
Speaker 1: the history lesson that you just dropped is like just
Speaker 1: a reminder of how dirty the bushes are, how dirty
Speaker 1: Reagan was, and just this is why the more that
Speaker 1: people learn, the more distrustful that they become of government,
Speaker 1: because you learn all of these things after the fact,
Speaker 1: and then you have people like Kissinger right, who die
Speaker 1: at one hundred years old and are never tried for
Speaker 1: the millions of people that they killed with a lie
Speaker 1: right of we're protecting democracy. We have to do these
Speaker 1: you know, type of covert actions because of blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, right, when we all know that it
Speaker 1: has to do with money and power. You know, I
Speaker 1: keep saying I had said when these events took place,
Speaker 1: these horrific attacks on August seventh, They were absolutely horrific.
Speaker 1: Do you know what else? We learned that they knew
Speaker 1: a year in advance that it was coming. Hey, do
Speaker 1: you know what else we learned? That like, they were
Speaker 1: doing practice runs that were called out by IDF military
Speaker 1: that said, wait, this actually looks like the dry run
Speaker 1: of what we saw, what we were alerted to a
Speaker 1: year ago. And what did they say?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: Keep quiet?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And I kept saying to myself, and I will say
Speaker 1: it again. I'm not a foreign affairs expert, but anytime
Speaker 1: that conflict arises, you have to ask yourself who benefits
Speaker 1: from the continued violence? Who benefits and in what ways
Speaker 1: are they benefiting? Right? Because it isn't just an ideological benefit, right,
Speaker 1: it is a monetary one. We know that what is
Speaker 1: ripe in the Middle East oil? Right? Whoever holds those
Speaker 1: reserves holds the power to turn off and on right
Speaker 1: the pipes. And so when I look at all of this,
Speaker 1: I look at it from every angle, including what the
Speaker 1: basis is, which is white supremacy, right and domination. Why
Speaker 1: are the anti Semitics in the Trump flack uh and
Speaker 1: and base like go rah rah rah for what net
Speaker 1: Yahoo is doing because in their twisted and contorted minds,
Speaker 1: they believe that this kind of violence will somehow usher
Speaker 1: in the second Coming, Right, Like, this is where these
Speaker 1: fucking people, This is where these people are, right, Like
Speaker 1: people have to really understand like where the mindset is
Speaker 1: around all of this. But I want to go back
Speaker 1: to one of the things that you said, which is
Speaker 1: about this October surprise and the fact that we know
Speaker 1: that the bombs that are being dropped, the damage that
Speaker 1: is being caused, the recent pictures that we just saw
Speaker 1: of men and boys being stripped down to their underwear
Speaker 1: being thrown in the back of IDF vehicles, us being
Speaker 1: asked about these pictures, which they are not condemning. They
Speaker 1: just say that they're disturbing, and they're asking the people
Speaker 1: that committed those very acts to do an investigation. Mark,
Speaker 1: where does that sound familiar when we ask the cops,
Speaker 1: the whatever police department to investigate themselves after unarmed black
Speaker 1: person is murdered, whether they are shot, whether they are
Speaker 1: choked to death, what have you? Please? Oh, it's so disturbing,
Speaker 1: go ahead and investigate yourself. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: And I think that young people, people people of color
Speaker 1: are looking at this situation and saying this looks eerily familiar.
Speaker 3: Now, I would agree with you there, and again, I
Speaker 3: think what people have to understand that this is a
Speaker 3: part of the overall agenda to affect what's going on
Speaker 3: over here. And so we get caught up in what's
Speaker 3: going on over there and over here. We still have
Speaker 3: voting rights on the line, affirmative action, education, black history,
Speaker 3: women losing their bodily autonomy every single day.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: LGBTQIA community gets it. Marriage equality is on the block.
Speaker 3: If Trump gets back in office, that's gone.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So when we look at all of these things, we've
Speaker 3: got to figure out a way to deal with this,
Speaker 3: and we've got to appeal to this administration to understand
Speaker 3: that otherwise they'll be gone as well. I get the
Speaker 3: impression that they do. I don't think they know what
Speaker 3: to do. And it also doesn't help the Democrats have
Speaker 3: never been good, as you and I have talked about before.
Speaker 3: Then then you know, Democrats have never been good at
Speaker 3: touting their own accomplishments and the things that have gotten it.
Speaker 3: I mean, jobs are still being created, but doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's talked about that everybody's talking about what's
Speaker 3: going on in Gaza. Just this week, I was with
Speaker 3: CDWA Communication Workers of America, the union. They're not paying
Speaker 3: the women who work at the call center who answer
Speaker 3: the call for Medicare and affordable Care. They're not paying
Speaker 3: them a living wage. The administration could pick up the
Speaker 3: phone call the private contractor and do something about that,
Speaker 3: but they won't do it. So I don't get what
Speaker 3: some of that is about. I don't think Biden is
Speaker 3: being served well by his advisor. Trump is releasing a
Speaker 3: plan for Black America, and there are some black folks,
Speaker 3: particularly black men, that are being duped in this thinking that,
Speaker 3: you know, because Trump got this swag and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm with it. Black women, as usually, you all gonna
Speaker 3: have to hold us up. Some folks talking about what
Speaker 3: he gave me my stemmych We ain't no more stimmy.
Speaker 3: You only let the stemmy go and understand what's really
Speaker 3: really at stake here. But I don't know that we'll
Speaker 3: win that argument. It's kind of scary because even people
Speaker 3: who I've known all my life are are confused, and
Speaker 3: they're talking about not voting. That's the other thing that
Speaker 3: has to happen I'm not even talking about people necessarily
Speaker 3: going to vote for Trump. Now you have people say
Speaker 3: they're not going to vote at all. At what people
Speaker 3: need to be educated about is that.
Speaker 2: Not voting is a vote.
Speaker 3: When you don't vote, you voting because we only have
Speaker 3: a two party system, so it's not like it it
Speaker 3: doesn't hurt someone, it actually helps someone else because there's
Speaker 3: still more of a us. There are more women. You
Speaker 3: put together all the people who are affected by these
Speaker 3: policies than a one time are considered minorities, women, people
Speaker 3: of color, seniors, the poor. Put all us together, we
Speaker 3: are together collectively the majority in this country. So when
Speaker 3: we don't vote, that actually takes the one vote for
Speaker 3: Trump and doubles it. It's a Trump vote times too
Speaker 3: when we don't vote. But it's a hard sell because
Speaker 3: people are getting me, will marked Biden is funding a
Speaker 3: slaughter in godsp I have no response for that. He
Speaker 3: is he is, and that's what the United States has
Speaker 3: always done and it's time for that to change. And
Speaker 3: then this whole argument when it's cancel culture and ironment too,
Speaker 3: which makes it eve word. There's so many different tentacles
Speaker 3: to this octopus. People getting canceled people being called at
Speaker 3: They tried to you know, they tried to fire the
Speaker 3: president of Harvard.
Speaker 2: Now granted, whoever prepared those college presidents for their testimony, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god should be fired. She would be FIREDE.
Speaker 2: Watch this say two things to you.
Speaker 3: Because we people the political advice that we're offering the
Speaker 3: Biden administration right now on this show. People pay millions
Speaker 3: of dollars for bad political advice, we're given it for free.
Speaker 3: Same thing with those college presidents. They could have called
Speaker 3: me and you the night before, what should we do?
Speaker 2: Yep, we could tell the five minutes.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that, but you know, thankfully the sisters survived.
Speaker 3: But we're in that moment of cancelation. And for example,
Speaker 3: for about a week or so, it didn't last, it
Speaker 3: didn't didn't hold. But there was this thing, you know,
Speaker 3: the Israeli government got mainstream needed to say, well, what
Speaker 3: about raping women?
Speaker 2: Women? Rape women? I heard raping of women, rape of women,
Speaker 2: raping of women, over and over and over and over
Speaker 2: and over again.
Speaker 3: And they got mad when people said, but what about
Speaker 3: you said the butt you anti semitic, and then you
Speaker 3: wouldn't favor of raping women which which also was kind
Speaker 3: of triggering to me. It should be triggering to all
Speaker 3: of us as black folks. That's not the first time
Speaker 3: in history that the sexual assault has been used yep,
Speaker 3: to subjugate people. So, folks, you know more than one
Speaker 3: thing is true.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Sexual assault against women is a war crime. There's one sentence.
Speaker 3: Here's another sentence.
Speaker 2: The killing of innocent civilian women and children is also
Speaker 2: a war crime. All right, So no, there's no We're
Speaker 2: not going.
Speaker 3: To do the oppression or victimization olympics here.
Speaker 2: Both are equally wrong.
Speaker 3: One might be the greater wrong because the one we're
Speaker 3: talking about death. You're indiscriminately bombing and killing people, but
Speaker 3: you're saying rape because these are women of a certain culture.
Speaker 3: He would go again, their lives are more valuable than another.
Speaker 3: So that's unacceptable. But this is touring the world asunder
Speaker 3: And you're right, they knew about it a year in advance.
Speaker 3: At least the Bushes knew about nine eleven that later
Speaker 3: came out. Conder leaves all of them because they all
Speaker 3: knew about it. They knew about this. So we've seen
Speaker 3: these moments in history where these things happen for the
Speaker 3: benefit of those who are in power to maintain and
Speaker 3: sustain their power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that this is where I become readily
Speaker 1: disheartened and hardened right to the facts, which are that
Speaker 1: you know, all of this is disgusting, right, the United
Speaker 1: States unequivocal, you know, stance on what we have readily
Speaker 1: said and seen as an unjust system. I visited Israel
Speaker 1: and Palestine in twenty fifteen, and I came back home
Speaker 1: jacked up emotionally, and I said, this place feels eerily familiar. Right.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense that we refer to this
Speaker 1: as the only democracy in the Middle East, because this
Speaker 1: looks like no democracy I've known, Right, and so.
Speaker 2: It it it is.
Speaker 1: I think that people don't need to be foreign affairs
Speaker 1: expert experts to understand that humanity is on the line here,
Speaker 1: our collective and moral right, morality as people as humans.
Speaker 1: When we can sit around and watch devastation, cruelty, violence
Speaker 1: reign supreme, and then have nation states justify it and
Speaker 1: think that you can bomb your way to peace, right,
Speaker 1: that's just not It's not how it works. And so
Speaker 1: my final question for you, Mark is that as we
Speaker 1: turn you know, the calendar year with eleven months, you know,
Speaker 1: to go. If you were to sit down face to
Speaker 1: face with President Biden, what would you tell him in
Speaker 1: terms of what is that stake.
Speaker 3: What's at stake, President Biden, is your presidency and more
Speaker 3: than that, really, because your presidency is the firewall against
Speaker 3: pretty much the end of democracy and end the politics
Speaker 3: in this country, the politics Joy read Afred Joe Reid
Speaker 3: has already said politics in America is over, and that
Speaker 3: may very well be true. But that's the only thing.
Speaker 3: And Biden hinted it at the fundraiser. He said, if
Speaker 3: Trump wasn't running, he might not even be running. He's
Speaker 3: native one year old man who wants to do that
Speaker 3: at that age and risk. You know, we just used
Speaker 3: to be the cliche of the vice presidents in one
Speaker 3: heart beat away from the presidency. That is literally true
Speaker 3: right now. And I'm not wishing ill will on anybody anything.
Speaker 3: It happened to any one of us any day, but
Speaker 3: when you're that age, you don't know. So I think
Speaker 3: that's where it stands. Look, the other world leaders got it,
Speaker 3: President of France, Prime minister in Britain, Canada, they ran
Speaker 3: up in Israel ran all oh.
Speaker 2: Then Yahoo got back home.
Speaker 3: Saw those people on the streets, which is bigger than
Speaker 3: anything we've seen since Vietnam here in America.
Speaker 2: When doctor King led those parts, whoop, they switched up.
Speaker 2: You ain't hurt. You have not seen or heard a
Speaker 2: word from those leaders. They are chilled.
Speaker 3: You know, they're not running around and putting themselves right
Speaker 3: in the middle of it. And then as someone that
Speaker 3: this is just a theory, another analyst said this the
Speaker 3: other day. Not only is there this Putin and then
Speaker 3: Yahoo relationship, but specifically this is what it's for.
Speaker 2: This this what I'm about to say is known. It
Speaker 2: is not such just a theory.
Speaker 3: When Israel sends his bombs in the Syria and other
Speaker 3: parts of the Middle East where Russian missile defense systems are,
Speaker 3: Russia says, we won't shoot your misciles down with our
Speaker 3: defense systems as long as you stay out of Ukraine.
Speaker 3: So we know that's one part of the deal. But
Speaker 3: there's another hypothesis about another part of the deal. Let's
Speaker 3: get everybody out of Gaza, and Putin says, I'll keep
Speaker 3: bombing Ukraine, but I will then airlift any Jews in
Speaker 3: Ukraine into their new settling homes in Gaza. All right,
Speaker 3: So we got to look at the big picture here.
Speaker 3: And if I'm not saying that's but that's a hypothesis.
Speaker 3: If that's true, kind of fits the narrative. Why not
Speaker 3: you drive everybody out of Gaza. You just got to
Speaker 3: open space. We can't put anybody in there. And we
Speaker 3: know that the settler issue, the expansion issue. People say
Speaker 3: that it's anti Semitic, Well, have they not settled, have
Speaker 3: they not expanded?
Speaker 2: It's just an objective reality.
Speaker 3: And the size of Palestine has shrunk since nineteen forty seven,
Speaker 3: nineteen forty that is just a fact. So a world
Speaker 3: that is more aware of these realities and more concerned
Speaker 3: about them. Twenty years going with nobody nobody care. Let's
Speaker 3: be honest. People have awakened. This younger generation has awakened,
Speaker 3: and even some of the older generations looks say, you
Speaker 3: know what, maybe that's just how it is right now.
Speaker 3: You never know how things is gonna change. Danielle, folks
Speaker 3: walk up on twenty three in October twenty three say
Speaker 3: you know what, we ain't with this no more.
Speaker 2: We little over this whole bombardment.
Speaker 3: Let's take you know, the Palaestitians out Horets the Liberal publication,
Speaker 3: the Liberal General.
Speaker 2: They have documented all of then.
Speaker 3: Yahoo's favorable comments about hamas funding them because they created
Speaker 3: a foil real quick.
Speaker 2: Since Listen's lad.
Speaker 3: To hear from me, check out the Netflix movie series
Speaker 3: Cleo over the Holidays.
Speaker 2: Have you watched that yet? No? I haven't.
Speaker 1: I've heard about it.
Speaker 3: So it's about a young lady who's it's a revenge movie.
Speaker 3: She was a member of the East German Stace in Berlin,
Speaker 3: the Secret Service, and they did some pretty hainous things
Speaker 3: and she's out to get revenge and to get this
Speaker 3: red briefcase. Nobody can reveal the contents of it's safe
Speaker 3: and took the way she's trying to get to it.
Speaker 3: But when the briefcase finally revealed, I'll just give you
Speaker 3: a spoiler, but you gotta still watch it.
Speaker 2: Didn't spoil whole movie. You gotta watch it.
Speaker 3: What it's really about is how the Reagan administration financed
Speaker 3: the East German government in Berlin and in East Germany
Speaker 3: so that the Reagan administration would have a foil in
Speaker 3: this country. So when he's over there tear down his wall,
Speaker 3: he's literally been financing the people on the other side
Speaker 3: of the wall, Hamas is that full for Nan Yahoo,
Speaker 3: they don't want a.
Speaker 2: Two stay solution. Nope.
Speaker 3: So we have to look at this and what I'm
Speaker 3: saying does not even I know, sound conspiratory on any
Speaker 3: of our listeners, but neither to a lot of people
Speaker 3: in the mainstream now because they're seeing it for themselves.
Speaker 2: Yep. That's the good and bad of social media.
Speaker 3: There a lot of bad things about it, Elon Musk,
Speaker 3: but there are some good things. Is because for every
Speaker 3: colonel of foolishness, you still get some kernels of truth
Speaker 3: and exposure that people otherwise wouldn't know about.
Speaker 2: So we got to get this thing right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: As always, my friend, the Reverend Mark Thompson, appreciate you,
Speaker 1: your analysis, your insight, and I look forward to more
Speaker 1: conversations with you in the new year.
Speaker 3: We got to have them because you know, our lives,
Speaker 3: our democracy, our justice, our rights, our human rights, all
Speaker 3: of this is on the line in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Folks. Thank you, Danielle, thank you.
Speaker 1: That is it for me to day, dear friends on
Speaker 1: woke a f as always power to the people and
Speaker 1: to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke.
Speaker 2: As fuck