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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, I'm ghosted. I gos nandas.

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Speaker 3: Pllease hey boo, it's me Ro's and welcome to Ghosted

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Speaker 3: by Ros Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people

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Speaker 3: that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Peaches Christ is back for her I think third visit,

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Speaker 1: I lose track truly. One of my favorite people in

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Speaker 1: cult movie podcast with Michael Varati. It's called Midnight Mass.

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Speaker 1: She's just she's non stop busy, just creating the coolest

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Speaker 1: And so it's a little bit more of the true

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Speaker 1: you a ghost story here. This one's from Sarah, who

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Speaker 1: read before going to sleep. Wow. God, sleeping at people's houses.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. I need my like just the

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Speaker 1: problem because of this podcast and these terrifying stories you

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Speaker 1: me that. Okay, you know I'm on tour roz Hernandez

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Speaker 1: On with the show. Wow Wow, Well I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: We are once again joined by the IC. Peach Is

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Speaker 2: know that your actual greeting to me was hello, sewer pickle. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's pull back the pickle. One thing that I remember

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Speaker 1: about Peaches is that this one time when we were together,

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Speaker 2: For listeners who don't know, Hecklina was a great friend

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Speaker 1: Yes, well this is very exciting. I'm happy. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy you're doing this. Didn't you tell me that you

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, like I said, Heckleina was my dear, dear friend,

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I've always wanted to get my

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Speaker 1: That video is so good. Well, then I started thinking

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: It's just the pace that he has on his face.

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Speaker 1: Now, positive peaches, Do you see Jesus?

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Speaker 2: Kind of? I will say that, I actually kind of

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Speaker 2: I see him. It's sort of a medium shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sounds like his headshot.

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Speaker 2: I mean exactly.

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Speaker 1: It could be it could be listen, it could be

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Speaker 4: But when it came out of the oven, it was

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Speaker 1: So they tried to sell it on eBay, but they

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Speaker 1: And you know what, whatever brings you cover absolutely that,

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Speaker 2: gonna get. I wonder if Mary's appeared on toast probably.

436
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that lady has appeared all over the place

437
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: all the time. I was actually another thing that I

438
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: was looking up that is Catholic that I feel like

439
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: I've never dedicated an episode to it. But I'm just

440
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: like so.

441
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: Opting to know that the JD Vance killed the Pope.

442
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: Had you heard that's the latest to Catholic News. Can

443
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: you believe that that that Pope didn't even want to

444
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: meet that douchebag and then he insists, you know, and

445
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 2: apparently the Pope just sat there scowling at him, right,

446
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: you know, because the Pope doesn't suffer fools. And you

447
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: know jd Vance is then the last meeting that this

448
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: person ever has their final days, you know, their last

449
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: meeting is with that piece of trash.

450
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not something you want to see.

451
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: And now the Conclave will happen, which you know I

452
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 2: watched the movie recently, so.

453
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited for a new pope.

454
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Like, have you seen Conclave?

455
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: I never have, but I've heard that it's juicy.

456
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to say anything because I didn't

457
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: know anything going into it, but I think that's the

458
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: best way to see it. And just know this, raz

459
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: I think you should see it.

460
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just I'm so obsessed with the Vatican.

461
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm so obsessed with Then you've got to watch this, Yes,

462
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: you gotta watch. I mean, it's John Lithgow, it's Isabella

463
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: Rossolini finds, it's you know, Stanley Tucci. Like then they're

464
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: all in the Catholic drag. But it's also I don't

465
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: want to say too much anyway, just why you just

466
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: watch it.

467
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Well, the thing I wanted to bring up with you

468
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: is stigmata.

469
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: Oh good, you're good, because I do have something to

470
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: bring up to you. But let's we'll see through the

471
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: Catholic stuff, because I'm obsessed.

472
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Of course, I used.

473
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: To want to have stigmata, you know, as a kid. Really,

474
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, of course. I mean you were you

475
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: were raised Catholic. Didn't you want that weird shit to

476
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: happen to you as a kid when you'd hear about it.

477
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: No, I'd never wanted pain.

478
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: Oh but that meant you were like the chosen one,

479
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: you know.

480
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so. But so if anyone doesn't know stigmata,

481
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: it's like this idea that you start developing symptoms of Jesus' crucifixion,

482
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Like you start getting bloody hands and like it's so morbid.

483
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: It is like so terrifying.

484
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: You get holes in your hands and holes in your

485
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: your feet where they put the steaks.

486
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Speaker 1: You get holes where you don't want holes. Yeah, there's

487
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: this one story that's like kind of famous that when

488
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: I've looked into stigmata, before. You always see it, and

489
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: I would not google it if you're a squeamish person

490
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: listening to this. This woman named Teres Newman. I guess

491
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: this started in the twenties. Jesus, the pictures of her

492
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: are no offense to the lady straight out of Boulet

493
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: Brothers Dragula.

494
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: So she's serving fears.

495
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: She literally would have blood dripping out of her eyes.

496
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Speaker 2: Ooh that, I mean, I love that. That's just that

497
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. When you're raised Katholic, how is it

498
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: we're not all obsessed with horror. I don't get it.

499
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's all so scary.

500
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: You literally sit in a room where you know, you're

501
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: just staring at this man who's been nailed to a

502
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: cross and he's hanging there dead. He does look kind

503
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: of often sexy, but like, yes, he's got blood coming

504
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: out of his hands and his feet, but he's also

505
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: got blood running down his face because you know, they

506
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: put a crown of thorns on his head. It's so gory.

507
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: The whole thing is Annie's been whipped. Annie, He's been

508
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: stabbed in the stomach. You know, he's been flogged. I mean,

509
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: it's just so violent.

510
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like I see that imagery, I'm like, I can't

511
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: believe I was a child and I was just like, yep,

512
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: that's how like, yeah, what I remember watching Carrie as

513
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: a kid and like she one of them has like

514
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: arrows in it, and I just ra think, like, oh

515
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: my god, that's the scariest thing I've ever seen at

516
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: a young age.

517
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: Carrie's so good at like doing the religious you know,

518
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: showing you like how crazy it is.

519
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Yes, So there is a website list versus dot com

520
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: that has a list of stigmata situations reported real, ten

521
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: infamous cases of stigmata. I might spread this over a

522
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: couple of episodes because I just think that these are

523
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: so fascinating. Let me read you what it says about that.

524
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Lady Teres Newman is. She was born in eighteen ninety

525
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: eight in Connorsruth, Bavaria. She was the oldest of ten children.

526
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Being the eldest, she was often put in charge of

527
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: taking care of her siblings, especially after her father served

528
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: in World War One. But taking care of children wasn't

529
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Speaker 1: her calling. Teresa's true ambition was to become a missionary

530
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: sister in Africa. Sadly, in nineteen eighteen, she was injured

531
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: during a fire, causing her to suffer partial paralysis of

532
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: the spine and later blindness. Formerly a hearty girl, she

533
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: was left bedridden and unable to work. Okay, hang on,

534
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: we're going to get to the part where she starts

535
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: bleeding all over the place. Since she couldn't work, she

536
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: took up the next best thing, which was intense religious devotion.

537
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: She was especially enamored by Saint Teres of Le Sue.

538
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: While lying on her bed in nineteen twenty five, she

539
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: heard the voice of the newly canonized Saint Teres of

540
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Lis Sue. She asked her if she wanted to be better,

541
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Speaker 1: because you know, she was bedridden, and Teresa, of course

542
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: answered yeah, ah, what do you think. The saint told

543
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: her that she could now stand and see, but she'd

544
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: still suffer. And suffer she did because Teresa was about

545
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: to get the shock of her life, and she received

546
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Speaker 1: the stigmata. On the first day of Lent in nineteen

547
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Speaker 1: twenty six, while ill with the flu, she was alone

548
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: in her room when she experienced a divine ecstasy. As

549
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: the day went on, she discovered bloody marks on her nightgown,

550
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: on her side and above her heart. The stigmata had

551
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: chosen her. The side wound continually wept blood, and on

552
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: the third day of Lent, the hand wounds appeared, followed

553
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: by tears of blood. The next day. You got to

554
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: go to a doctor. I'm sorry. Saint Teres of Lessu

555
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: said that she'd suffer, and it did NonStop. Later in

556
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: the year, Newman finally received her bloody crown of thorns. Wow,

557
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: the wounds never healed and they stayed on her body

558
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: until her death.

559
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a horror movie.

560
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: She only survived on Eucharist.

561
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: No, you're making that up.

562
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: It says Saint Teries came to her during her suffering

563
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: and told her, quote, no more earthly food. You'll survive

564
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: on Eucharist.

565
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: Which is essentially cannibalism. Non Catholics don't realize that in

566
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: order to be Catholic and to receive the Eucharist, Yeah,

567
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: you have to commit to this belief system that says

568
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: one that when the priest you know, performs transubstantiation, that

569
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: that wafer actually becomes the body of Christ and that's

570
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: the wine you're drinking is his blood. I'm not saying metaphorically.

571
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: But you don't believe in trans people.

572
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, right, yeah.

573
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: So you know, well, and as I always say, you

574
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 1: never told me what part of the body it was.

575
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: You just told me to eat it. I don't know

576
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: what that is. That's nasty. So yeah, she didn't eat

577
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: anything other than you Christ every day. And she drank

578
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: no water starting in nineteen twenty six, and she lived

579
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Speaker 1: until nineteen sixty two. And she claims blood was dripping

580
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: out of her eyes and her hands and all of

581
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: that all the time, never ending supply of blood.

582
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Speaker 2: I do find that to be fabulous. And I actually

583
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: actually think if I were her, I would have gone

584
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: on the road. You know, I would have been like,

585
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: I would have been doing shows, you know, absolutely, I

586
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: would have milked it for all it's worth, you know.

587
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: But she but to take that gift and just to

588
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: sort of like, I don't know, wither away, it's just,

589
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: you know, it seems like kind of a waste.

590
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: But she had. Just for reference, can you pull up

591
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Speaker 1: a photo of Terese Newman and EU M A N

592
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: N Just so that Peaches can see what I'm talking about?

593
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh.

594
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Yes, there's one picture in particular, the one that has

595
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: like a lime green painted wall and she's sitting in bed.

596
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: It's a color photo, and there is blood all over

597
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: her veil and her her whole outfit.

598
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: It's almost like she took the she took the blood.

599
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: And this is why it looks so ridiculous because it

600
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: makes no sense. She like dabbed her hands and then

601
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: went like tap tap tap tap tap tap tap all

602
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: around her. It doesn't really Yeah, I don't know ra's that.

603
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess she was taking the holes in

604
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: her hands, like hitting her head. I don't know anyway. Yes,

605
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: now I just.

606
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Started coming out of her. In all those spots it

607
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: was blood.

608
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: That's not stigmata.

609
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Then, well, Jesus had a lot of bloody spots. But

610
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: you can see in the picture that she's got hand

611
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: holes and her eyes are bleeding.

612
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true.

613
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: Now why are her eyes bleeding there? What does that

614
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: have to do with Jesus?

615
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a thing, bloody eyes. But I

616
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: have to say, do you know that they actually didn't?

617
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: This is like a kind of a stigmata debunk that

618
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: historically speaking, when people were crucified, they did not stake

619
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: them through their hands because your hands, the bones in

620
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: your hands are so small and slight that the weight

621
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: of your body would rip through even your arms, it

622
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't last. So they were actually staked through the wrist

623
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: because the bones there were much stronger.

624
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that just kill you instant too?

625
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: Like? Probably?

626
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, probably way quicker than the hand anyway.

627
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't even think this is historically accurate.

628
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: Wow, here's skeptical, peaches.

629
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: Do you know the best Stigmata drag number? I ever saw?

630
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: What your best friend of all time, Jackie beat I

631
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: got to see her perform Stigmata the Ministry song live

632
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: with a rock band at a club was probably the

633
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: late nineties early two thousands, at a club in La

634
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: called Club Makeup, where they would bring in a rock

635
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: band and have different people, a lot of drag performers.

636
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: I saw her. I saw Eva Destruction, who was Alexis Arquette.

637
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: I saw Jane Weedland did a Susie and the Banshee's number,

638
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: but they were doing a whole goth thing, and Jackie

639
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: fucking did Stigmata by Ministry and she nailed it. It

640
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: was amazing. I still think of it. I saw that

641
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago and I still think about it.

642
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: Ah. I love it. What was the thing that you

643
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: were gonna say before I got into the.

644
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna say. Another thing that we have

645
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: to do as part of the Ghosted podcast is the

646
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: next time you're in San Francisco, I am going to

647
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: take you to the Golden Gate Spiritualist Church, which is

648
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 2: just up the street from where I live. And this

649
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: church has been around forever. I'm going to send you

650
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: information on it. They have churches all over the country.

651
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: They've been around since the eighteen hundreds. But what they

652
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: do it seems like a regular church. I went with

653
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: a friend. I've gone a couple times. The first part,

654
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: you go into this room and they have a woman

655
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: that plays an organ and it's quite creepy in filmmaking.

656
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: They have like relics around and you say a prayer.

657
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: Then you go into this other room and it looks

658
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: like a regular church with pews and an altar, and

659
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: then they start the map or what I don't know

660
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: what they call it, if they call it mass, but

661
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: they start the service a service. Yeah, and at some

662
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: point during the service, the person leading the service, which

663
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: could be a man or a woman. I've seen I've seen.

664
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: It's not like Catholics where you know, only men can

665
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: lead the mass. Uh. They do this section. The big

666
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: meat of it is they invite maybe two or three

667
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: other people who come up on the stage and they

668
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: start sort of going into a trance. And then they

669
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: look at people in the congregation and they'll point at

670
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: you and say, there's a man here who wants to

671
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: talk to you. There's psychics and yes, they start channeling

672
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: all these spirits and they have this whole thing where

673
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: they talk to you about who has come to visit

674
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: you and what ghosts there are. It's amazing.

675
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: Have you gone since the Heckleina thing?

676
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: No? I haven't. I should huh. And they have service

677
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: every Sunday.

678
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Fun.

679
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called the Golden Gate Spiritualist Church.

680
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: Cool. Can I show you a haunted doll?

681
00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: Of course?

682
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay, So

683
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I go to eBay, I type a haunted doll, and

684
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, I get all kinds and they always come

685
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: with these stories and a lot of times it's your

686
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: typical Oh this doll doll comes alive when I'm sleeping

687
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: or whatever. I was thinking, since it's you, maybe we

688
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: could get a little nasty with it. This is kind

689
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: of a nasty doll. Okay, Peaches, I hope you can

690
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: handle it.

691
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: Okay.

692
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: Physically cute Okay. Her name is Kitty K and she's

693
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: going for twenty five ninety nine. Do you how? I

694
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: just show us Kitty K. You got it?

695
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: Ros Oh, it's a little cat. She's very cute.

696
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: It's just a little cat. But here's what it says.

697
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Kitty K. She is beyond unique, shy at first, yet

698
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: really wild, like a big lie. She may not be

699
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: for everyone. Do not judge her taste. An adorable vessel

700
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: with a rough soul, unknown origin. She is using supernatural

701
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: abilities to appear harmless and neutral. She is white in

702
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: the front, dirty in the back. She loves it from behind. No,

703
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: this is what it says, I swear to God, Peches,

704
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: this is what it says. She is really special and

705
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: will change her form in shape to reflect what she

706
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: feels you are lusting for, to gain sexual activity from

707
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: you and other worldly spirits. Be careful and do not

708
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: let her consume you, for you are her master and

709
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: she needs to be shown some sort of control. In

710
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: all caps, she wants your sperm, and she wants to

711
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: drink all of your fluids. What she loves the smell

712
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: of shit. This is what I'm telling you. This, This

713
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: is what's wrote. I can't even read those peeges.

714
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: It's so disturbing because to describe it to the listener,

715
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: it is the cutest little it looks like it's probably

716
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: really small, like this little teeny I don't know, like

717
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: very cute white cat who just looks so innocent and sweet.

718
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: I can't believe someone would degrade her like what.

719
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about myself, which is why

720
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I cannot. I'm not going to read some of this,

721
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: but let me just say she's a fan of sewer pickles,

722
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: and they go into detail, Oh no, of what she

723
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: wants you to do with sewer pickles.

724
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Whoa.

725
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: It also says she loves playing with ribbons, yarn, and

726
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: long objects that resemble snakes. She is for you, so

727
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: pet her if you want her to give it back

728
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: to you, you will have visions of her face drooling

729
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: after biting off the face of her prey. She always

730
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: wants affection and always wants you. Just make sure you

731
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: know how to handle an animal femail in bed, because

732
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: she will make you think you're in a whole other realm.

733
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't even understand what what's happening.

734
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: Well, just to keep explaining, Just to keep in mind,

735
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: there was a sentence in here about whatever you're lusting after,

736
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: she will appear as Okay, so it's the sex spirit

737
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: that is attached to this. Once you buy this doll

738
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: for twenty five ninety nine.

739
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: Then all your fantasies come true.

740
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Yes, there will be a scat queen manifesting however you

741
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: are lusting.

742
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Wow, she's very cute. She has little pink ears.

743
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Wow, I'll bite my tongue. All right, that was that.

744
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?

745
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time for EVP.

746
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: Or ev pse. Okay, Peaches christ if that is your

747
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: real name. I go to YouTube and I find ghost

748
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: voices and these are both from the same person. Their

749
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: name on YouTube is Jason seventy two uk uk.

750
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah.

751
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: They were just walking on the street filming and they

752
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: caught a ghost saying a couple of things. What is

753
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: this ghost saying? Peaches? Okay, there's some street noise, but

754
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: you can kind of hear like a like do you

755
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: hear it?

756
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: No? Okay, wait, like a squeak no, it just sounds

757
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: like street noise. I don't hear the ghost.

758
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Oh really, it's so clear, don't what.

759
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: Are you hearing?

760
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Well, it's like a wait, it sounds like.

761
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: A car driving by and then like someone.

762
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: Going yeah, like far away, you can hear a voice

763
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: be like okay, So did they think it was a

764
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: eh penis b lesbians? Mm hmmm, see that's ps or

765
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: d bless us everyone, all right, it's one of these.

766
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: See they believe it's lesbians. Now that we know that,

767
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: I can hear it. Okay you can't, yes, because it's

768
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: like lesbians, like you can hear it in the day

769
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: with the track, okay lesbians. Everyone at home is.

770
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Like they're like Peaches is dumb. It's clear as day.

771
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: It's really okay. Same person posted this another one on

772
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: the street. What's this one saying? Okay, so obviously horrible

773
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: ambient noise, but there's like a I hear like a

774
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: definitely like a British I'm gonna guess man being like, no, no, don't, don't.

775
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: I hear that one better?

776
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's definitely closer to the recording device an

777
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: he guesses, take you to the beach, Yeah, not a

778
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: bad guess something like that. Do they think it was

779
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: a you say you got cream cheese? B you silly

780
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: old beast? You see? Are you saving your peach is?

781
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: Or d are you shaving your butt cheeks? Okay it's

782
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: one of those.

783
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: Oh I think maybe the peaches one.

784
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Yes it's you, it is me. Yes, are you saving

785
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: your peaches?

786
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: I can hear that one.

787
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now let me know that. Let me play it.

788
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: All you saving your peaches?

789
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: Do you know what she did your counting tata? Well,

790
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: I would say that's about it.

791
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. We have homework. We're gonna go

792
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: to the UK together. That's what we're gonna do.

793
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Well, you sound like a real fun person a ghost

794
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: hunt with based on what heck Lena said that you

795
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: were oh so skeptical. You don't even believe in stigmata.

796
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: I'll get with the program, and then we're gonna do

797
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: a stay on some pumps.

798
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Brings that that we could easily make happen.

799
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna come to San Francisco and we're

800
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: going to go to the Golden Gate Spiritualist Church together.

801
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: I love that.

802
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. It's so I don't know

803
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: why I never thought to tell you about it before,

804
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: but it is right up your alley.

805
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: Well, I always like hanging out with you. Tell people

806
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: where you want them to find you. What about?

807
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: Well?

808
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: What about? What about the podcasts I've never been on?

809
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: What about that? Maybe tell people to listen to that

810
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: one of my favorite podcasts. I listened, I've never missed

811
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: an episode.

812
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, I can't believe you've never been on that.

813
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I can either. And welcome back to your

814
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: third time on this one.

815
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: I mean that is crazy. I've tried to tell Michael

816
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: how great you are.

817
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Just do an idle worship episode of me and we'll

818
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: make it good.

819
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: I think you deserve one, but yes, you can. You

820
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: know I have gone back to after years of depending

821
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: on social media, I have invested in really maintaining and

822
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: updating Peacheschrist dot com because I absolutely just hate everything

823
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: and I hate relying on fucking Zuckerberg or whatever, Twitter whatever,

824
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I still use it. I'm still on a

825
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: lot of that shit. Although I'm not on Twitter anymore.

826
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: That was a step too far. I'm on Blue Sky,

827
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: which I quite like. But anyway, really Peaches Christ dot com,

828
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: everything about the podcast and upcoming shows. I'm I think

829
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: we need to return to running our own stuff.

830
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Yeah. It's funny that you say this about

831
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: your website because you've always had a good website. And

832
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: I remember ten years before I met you, maybe I

833
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: found your website and I was like, what is all this?

834
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: That's like how I knew who you were. Oh, it's

835
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: your website.

836
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: But then I kind of got lazy with it when

837
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: social media became such a big thing because people were

838
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: engaging there. But now like I have a newsletter and

839
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I kind of like more into

840
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: cultivating a direct connection with people rather than relying on

841
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: the because we're being censored, you know, drag is being censored,

842
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: trans people are being censored. Like these corporate oligarchs are,

843
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, controlling what we It's so crazy.

844
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

845
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: Sounds like I'm being a conspiracy theorist. But now, no, no,

846
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: it's here. It's here. It's a fascist America and we're

847
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: living in it.

848
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know about this, but

849
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm traveling America and I'm just doing I'm doing close

850
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: to fifty gay bars. I saw that because I'm like

851
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: I can't put out a special right now or whatever,

852
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: like yeah, so I'm just gonna go out and see

853
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: people face to face, old fashioned.

854
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: Good for you, good for you, and you know everyone,

855
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: I'm sure all your listeners already know this, but like,

856
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: you are so good, You're so funny, You're so likable

857
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: while also being kind of a bitch, and I you

858
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I just think you're so great

859
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: and I think people like everyone I know that came

860
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: to see you when you came to San Francisco, everyone

861
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: just loved it. So folks, should you know, get their tickets.

862
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, well thank you girl. Oh you saving

863
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: your peaches.

864
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: Of course, well no, I give them away.

865
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Peaches. Christ Wow, that episode

866
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: had everything. Thank you for listening. And uh I love

867
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

868
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back.

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

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Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

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Speaker 1: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

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Speaker 1: by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine

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Speaker 1: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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Speaker 1: chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the

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