Speaker 1: Look Jessie Kelly Show thirty minutes from now. Boris Rifkin
Speaker 1: with his continuing series every Tuesday at the same time
Speaker 1: on the Soviet Union, communism, How did we get here?
Speaker 1: All that's coming. I'm gonna get the Medal of Honor Tuesday,
Speaker 1: which is normally on Monday. Here in just a second
Speaker 1: couple of housekeeping items. One, don't miss Miranda Divine. She's
Speaker 1: on my TV show tonight nine pm Eastern Time. Just
Speaker 1: don't miss that. One the whole Hunter Biden, Joe Biden Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Now we're involved in Ukraine thing. She's a wealth of
Speaker 1: information there. I would tune into that. That's on the
Speaker 1: first TV app. That's one. Two. Justin Trudeau stood up
Speaker 1: today and gave a little speech on Vladimir Putin. Canada
Speaker 1: and our allies will defend democracy. We are taking these
Speaker 1: actions today to stand against authoritarianism. The people of Ukraine,
Speaker 1: like all people, must be free to determine their own future.
Speaker 1: We will continue working with our international partners to safeguard
Speaker 1: Ukraine's territorial integrity and prevent further Russian aggression. I have
Speaker 1: to say, I know this won't be popular. I stand
Speaker 1: with Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden against authoritarianism. I mean,
Speaker 1: what could be worse that? Think about this, Think about
Speaker 1: how disgusting this is. What if a leader of a nation,
Speaker 1: what if he threw his political opponents in jail and
Speaker 1: kept them there? I mean, how can you even imagine that?
Speaker 1: Can you wrap your mind around this? What if? I mean, gosh,
Speaker 1: talk about authoritarianism and tyranny? What if what if the
Speaker 1: leader of a nation killed innocent people on foreign soil?
Speaker 1: Could could you even wrap your mind around that? Gosh?
Speaker 1: That would be crazy, wouldn't it. Oh, they're just despicable,
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. Nothing like that can happen here, Thank goodness. Look,
Speaker 1: you'd never catch Western leaders freezing the assets of their
Speaker 1: own citizens. Disgusting. The financial instruments which our government is
Speaker 1: using right now to act against these illegal blockades and
Speaker 1: illegal occupation. We reviewed very very carefully the tools at
Speaker 1: the disposal of the federal government, and we determined that
Speaker 1: we needed some additional tools. Now, some of them. Chris,
Speaker 1: who is that Russian man? She doesn't she has really
Speaker 1: cleaned up her accent. Who oh, oh, that's Canada's Deputy Freeland.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, Well, I mean at least look,
Speaker 1: at least we can criticize Putin for going out there
Speaker 1: and intentionally raising energy prices on his own citizens Keystone Pipeline.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said it at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Western governments in America, Canada, Australia,
Speaker 1: New Zealand, France and other places. Western governments taking the
Speaker 1: force of government and aiming it at their own citizens
Speaker 1: is by far the biggest story in the world right now.
Speaker 1: And I don't care if Vladimir Putin takes over all
Speaker 1: of Eastern Europe. That ain't gonna change for you or
Speaker 1: me now without further ado. Normally we do this on Mondays,
Speaker 1: but we were all gone yesterday and we felt an
Speaker 1: obligation to do it today. It's time for Medal of
Speaker 1: Honor Monday on Tuesday, right, hey, honoring those who went
Speaker 1: above and beyond its Medal of Honor Monday. This is
Speaker 1: US Air Force, This is Afghanistan. Technical Sergeant John A.
Speaker 1: Chapman distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism as an Air Force
Speaker 1: Special Tactics combat controller attached to a Navy Sea, Air
Speaker 1: and Land Team that Seals Seal team conducting reconnaissance Operations
Speaker 1: and Takugar, Afghanistan. On March fourth, two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: During the insertion, the team's helicopter was ambushed, causing a
Speaker 1: team aide to fall into an entrenched group of enemy
Speaker 1: combatants below. Sergeant Chapman and his team voluntarily reinserted onto
Speaker 1: the snowcap mountain into the heart of an known enemy
Speaker 1: stronghold to rescue one of their own without regard for
Speaker 1: his own safety. Sergeant Chapman immediately engage aged, moving in
Speaker 1: the direction of the closest enemy position. Despite coming under
Speaker 1: heavy fire from multiple directions, he fearlessly charged an enemy
Speaker 1: bunker up a steep incline in thigh deep snow and
Speaker 1: into hostile fire, directing directly engaging the enemy. Upon reaching
Speaker 1: the bunker, Sergeant Chapman assaulted and cleared the position, killing
Speaker 1: all enemy occupants with complete disregard for his own life.
Speaker 1: Sergeant Chapman deliberately moved from cover only twelve meters from
Speaker 1: the enemy and exposed himself once again to attack a
Speaker 1: second bunker from which an emplaced machine gun was firing
Speaker 1: on his team. Sergeant Chapman was struck and injured by
Speaker 1: enemy fire. Despite severe mortal wounds. He continued to fight relentlessly,
Speaker 1: sustaining a violent engagement with multiple enemy personnel before making
Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice by his heroic actions an extraordinary valor,
Speaker 1: sacrificing his life for the lives of his teammates. Technical
Speaker 1: Sergeant Chapman upheld the highest adition to military service and
Speaker 1: reflected great credit upon himself in the United States Air Force.
Speaker 1: Let us always remember those are the men we remember now.
Speaker 1: I brought up something earlier. It's going to sound a
Speaker 1: little off topic, but I think it's pretty much applicable
Speaker 1: to where we're at now because all the heavines are
Speaker 1: out here right now. Supreme Court to hear Colorado clash
Speaker 1: over LGBTQ rights and religious liberty. They essentially want to
Speaker 1: know you remember all that wedding cake fiasco garbage where
Speaker 1: all the LGBTQ Air Force people were charging into this
Speaker 1: guy's what is Christian bakery and trying to make him
Speaker 1: make gay wedding cakes. And look, I don't care how
Speaker 1: offensive you take this as not if you're a business,
Speaker 1: I've just been given the rules for the last two years.
Speaker 1: If I'm running a business, I can refuse you service
Speaker 1: for anything I want not vaccinated, Get out senated, get
Speaker 1: out mask it out. Black Nope, don't serve pit black
Speaker 1: people here, choose go Italian. Sorry, Up, you're too tall.
Speaker 1: We're not selling you burgers here. Up you're too fat.
Speaker 1: Go somewhere else for your smoothies. Gay people, Nope, gays
Speaker 1: need not apply. Does that sound harsh, Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: so weird how people think discrimination all of a sudden
Speaker 1: sounds harsh again, because I just read for you. I
Speaker 1: just read for you an email from a guy who
Speaker 1: just lost his job after twenty eight years because of discrimination.
Speaker 1: I could read email after email after email after email
Speaker 1: from people, I can't go here, my daughter can't go there,
Speaker 1: my son can't go here. I'm not allowed here. No
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no no, no no no no no. Don't
Speaker 1: you dare let these communists now step up and claim
Speaker 1: discrimination for anything. Discrimination is now part of the law
Speaker 1: in America. It is part of the law here. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you just did it now. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily recommend you start refusing service to tall people,
Speaker 1: after all, were the best, And I definitely wouldn't start
Speaker 1: refusing service to others who may help your business. But hey,
Speaker 1: you've been given the rules, and the rules were handed
Speaker 1: out very clearly. And once again, the people who spent
Speaker 1: the time handing out these rules that we will now
Speaker 1: follow didn't seem to realize. Norms change when you change norms.
Speaker 1: When you tell businesses slap a sign on your door,
Speaker 1: you're not welcome. Sorry, unvaccinated people aren'ty been allowed in
Speaker 1: the door. Sorry, you're the dirty, lower second class than
Speaker 1: you had better expect. That's coming around the other way.
Speaker 1: And all once again say this when it comes to
Speaker 1: that stuff. I don't even know if I should say
Speaker 1: we anymore, because I don't think I consider myself in
Speaker 1: this camp. I'll tell you this. For the longest time,
Speaker 1: I would have considered myself very much in the more
Speaker 1: libertarian camp. I don't think I would have called myself
Speaker 1: a libertarian. But you know those stupid little tests you
Speaker 1: take online where they determine where you fall, Almost always
Speaker 1: I would get libertarian. I was just a very big hey,
Speaker 1: keep government out of it, get government out of it,
Speaker 1: live and let live. Don't care, don't whatever you do,
Speaker 1: don't care. I'll leave you alone. You leave me alone,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you I still believe that is
Speaker 1: the way a government should be. That's the way a
Speaker 1: country should be set up. But I have really really
Speaker 1: come around to how truly naive that was when dealing
Speaker 1: with communists. They're never going to leave you alone. They're
Speaker 1: never going to remain neutral. They're not going to respect
Speaker 1: the live and let live thing. These people are monsters
Speaker 1: who are out to dominate you. These people want to
Speaker 1: hurt you, and these people don't want to I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just be neutral on values. There's such thing as neutrality
Speaker 1: on values. That's what I got wrong. For so long.
Speaker 1: You are either pushing yours or they're pushing theirs. That's
Speaker 1: simply a fact. Staying out of that fight has been
Speaker 1: the great failure of the right, and younger Jesse participated
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly in that it is time to engage in that
Speaker 1: it is time to be anti communists. All right, A
Speaker 1: US House candidate has had issue an apology, and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about exactly what she did here in
Speaker 1: just a second. You know what, I might even take
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Speaker 1: It is The Jesse Kelly Show. And look, I thought,
Speaker 1: before I get to America, democrats, current Democrats, not older ones,
Speaker 1: current Democrats, what they feel about what's happening in Canada.
Speaker 1: Before I get to this FBI story golli and before
Speaker 1: I get to the phones eight seven seven three seven
Speaker 1: seven four three seven three. First and foremost, let's acknowledge baby,
Speaker 1: it's National Margarite to day. I am so in honor
Speaker 1: of National Margarite today, I thought it would be appropriate.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not funny. Is this? This story is
Speaker 1: not funny and I better not catch anybody laughing out there.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be appropriate to uh read this
Speaker 1: story from Oklahoma. The headline is the US candidate sorry
Speaker 1: for intoxication during a sleepover. A US House candidate in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma has a apologized after reports that she became intoxicated
Speaker 1: at a Valentine's Day weekend sleepover for middle eight school girls,
Speaker 1: be rated several of the children, and vomited in a hamper. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's not funny, all right. Democrat Abbey Broyles, thirty two,
Speaker 1: told television station Kfore she had an adverse reaction after
Speaker 1: drinking wine and taping in taking sleep medication given to
Speaker 1: her by a friend. Okay, first, let's pause right there,
Speaker 1: pause the look. I just I want to explain something
Speaker 1: to everybody out there. And this applies to politicians, actors, athletes.
Speaker 1: Maybe it applies to you in your life. Nobody ever
Speaker 1: buys the stupid lame stories people came up with. Remember
Speaker 1: all the Remember all the baseball players who were jacking
Speaker 1: homers during Baseball's big steroids thing. Remember when Barry Bonds
Speaker 1: heads swelled up like a tick and he's blasting eighty
Speaker 1: homers a year. And then they add this big before Congress,
Speaker 1: which was a stupid waste of time anyway, But during
Speaker 1: this hearing, every single one of the athletes was saying
Speaker 1: things like, well, I don't I don't know. I thought
Speaker 1: it was tile on all and then I just started
Speaker 1: swelling up, or or I don't know. A friend gave
Speaker 1: me this cream. And remember I forget who which was
Speaker 1: It might have been multiple of them, neighbor. They were
Speaker 1: accused him injecting something. Then you actually said, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what it was. Yeah, because boy, I don't
Speaker 1: know about you. Just hand me a needle and I'll
Speaker 1: just pump whatever's in there into my body. Remember how
Speaker 1: lame that sounded. Remember when joy and read that brain
Speaker 1: Dad loser for MSNBC when she got busted. Apparently she
Speaker 1: had some old blog which nobody read, and she had
Speaker 1: a bunch of anti gay stuff on there, and then
Speaker 1: she said, well I got hacked, and that brings us
Speaker 1: to Abby here, Abby Broyles, just as we begin our
Speaker 1: journey down this wonderful, wonderful story. Okay, you didn't have
Speaker 1: an adverse reaction to wine and the sleeping medication a
Speaker 1: friend gave to you. Yeah, but maybe you mixed wine
Speaker 1: with the sleeping medication. But why do you always have
Speaker 1: to throw in the mystery? Friend? Lady, you got white
Speaker 1: girl wasted at a middle age sleepover, and you really
Speaker 1: kind of made a gigantic butt of yourself. All right,
Speaker 1: you didn't, you didn't do well, But let's continue down
Speaker 1: the story. I just that PSA was for all people
Speaker 1: to just be honest in this day and age, No
Speaker 1: matter how scared you are of the social media mob,
Speaker 1: no matter how scared you are of the phone call
Speaker 1: from your boss. Everyone knows the truth. Your minds will
Speaker 1: just come right out and admit it. You know you. Look,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to apologize, you know me, I'll
Speaker 1: never apologize for anything. I don't care what I do.
Speaker 1: Let me just get out ahead of this right now.
Speaker 1: Whatever I'm accused of, I probably did it, probably a
Speaker 1: hundred guilty it's just just count me in. It's guilty
Speaker 1: right now. That's fine, Chris, It'll be fine, no big deal. Instead,
Speaker 1: she continues on, let's move along down the story. Instead
Speaker 1: of helping me sleep, I hallucinated. I love that part.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course I blacked out and I don't
Speaker 1: remember anything until I woke up or came two and
Speaker 1: I was throwing up in a hamper. She said she
Speaker 1: was invited to a slumber party by a good friend
Speaker 1: from law school who was a mother of one of
Speaker 1: the girls. Parents of at least one of the girls
Speaker 1: who were at the sleepover told the online news outlet
Speaker 1: non Doc that Broyles use profanity and be rated several
Speaker 1: of the twelve and thirteen year old girls at the party,
Speaker 1: commenting on one girl's acne and another's Hispanic ethnicity. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Look, I know what's not supposed to be funny.
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious. One a lot of people
Speaker 1: out there, they don't do very well with alcohol. And
Speaker 1: if you're one of those people, but listen, listen, I
Speaker 1: believe that is kind of like one of those how
Speaker 1: God Made you things. Some people's bodies just chemically don't
Speaker 1: do well with alcohol. I had a friend, he would
Speaker 1: go nameless. He would oftentimes disappear if he had alcohol.
Speaker 1: This is back in the Marine Corps, and we would
Speaker 1: have to routinely, this wasn't just once. We would have
Speaker 1: to routinely go out on search parties for him to
Speaker 1: find him. We would oftentimes find that he and they remember,
Speaker 1: this is like an upstanding normal guy in normal sober things.
Speaker 1: We would find that he had broken into someone else's
Speaker 1: barracks room and passed out on someone else's bed. That
Speaker 1: was his thing. He wanted to go to a room
Speaker 1: that wasn't his and pass out on the bed. And
Speaker 1: if you tried to wake him up, he'd start fighting you.
Speaker 1: He'd just start punching you. You had to get ready
Speaker 1: to start fighting. The look he was a normal person
Speaker 1: in normal times. He didn't do well with alcohol. If
Speaker 1: you find yourself making fun of a twelve year old
Speaker 1: girl's pimples and throwing up in a hamper, may maybe
Speaker 1: it's time to find a new vice of some kind.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to take up knitting. Look, that's just me,
Speaker 1: that's it. We've all had a night, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: you know what that just gave me an idea. And
Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody this is a family show,
Speaker 1: a family show. Kids listen to this show. What's the
Speaker 1: Dumbest Thing? PG rated? What is the dumbest thing You've
Speaker 1: ever done? After you've had one too many? Eight seven
Speaker 1: seven three seven seven four three seven three. You know
Speaker 1: what we're about to do next. We're about to go
Speaker 1: to Boris Rifkin. He's gonna keep us updated on where
Speaker 1: we left off with the Soviet Union and communism. But
Speaker 1: when I get done with Boris, he's gonna last about
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Eight seven seven three seven seven four three
Speaker 1: seven three. What's the dumbest eg thing You've ever done?
Speaker 1: After you've had one? Two many? All right, and it's
Speaker 1: been heavy enough, let's have some fun hanging. But it
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly's Show, and we are doing something
Speaker 1: we've never done before. Every single Tuesday, at this exact time,
Speaker 1: we talked to Boris Rifkin. He's the sole member of
Speaker 1: Monta Fly Holdings. He's also a history expert, especially on
Speaker 1: communism stuff. I learned so much from this guy. In
Speaker 1: a case you missed the last two, he's not going
Speaker 1: to recap the last two because we only have it
Speaker 1: for one segment. You gotta go download the podcast. Last
Speaker 1: two tuesdays, same thing, but Boris, we finished off last
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Lennon just died. Okay, so Lennon dies, we
Speaker 1: have the largest country on earth? Was it just a
Speaker 1: given Stalin was coming next? Well, thanks for having me
Speaker 1: on again, Jeff, and just wanted to preface our conversation today.
Speaker 1: It's a really timely time seems to be talking about
Speaker 1: all of this, given Potin's address, the Ukraine situation, and
Speaker 1: how everything is put into a historical context. He's certainly
Speaker 1: looking back about a century and a half. It would
Speaker 1: be refreshing if our officials did the same and had
Speaker 1: some historical groundings. So it just makes these segments that
Speaker 1: much more important, I think, to understand what's going on,
Speaker 1: and so to get to the question. So not initially,
Speaker 1: there was already, even before it was pretty clear that
Speaker 1: he was going to pass on soon he had a
Speaker 1: few strokes, there was already a struggle for power behind
Speaker 1: the scenes between and Initially. What's interesting is people assumed
Speaker 1: that Trotsky was seen as the air apparent and was
Speaker 1: bound to succeed him, but in reality Trotsky was a
Speaker 1: bit indifferent, He was indecisive. He didn't initially want to
Speaker 1: necessarily gets the top job, and that was a huge
Speaker 1: part of the reason why eventually Stalin was able to
Speaker 1: organize a few combinations against him. So first Stalin attacked
Speaker 1: him from the right, then he attacked him from the left,
Speaker 1: and eventually, after about really a two year definitively power struggle,
Speaker 1: Stalin was able to force Trotsky out of the party
Speaker 1: and eventually have him expelled from the country altogether. And
Speaker 1: by really nineteen twenty six, but to be very generous,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight or really nineteen twenty six, Stalin had
Speaker 1: emerged as the undisputed leader of the Soviet Union, even
Speaker 1: though he was never formally de Yuri, the head of
Speaker 1: the government. He was really kind of an interesting setup
Speaker 1: so that there was a formal head of the government
Speaker 1: with somebody else, so he was always sort of the
Speaker 1: one who everybody knew was in fact running the country
Speaker 1: and in charge, but he preferred to stay behind the
Speaker 1: scenes in terms of who was putting their signature on what,
Speaker 1: in making any kind of public statements, because he wasn't
Speaker 1: really a great order or speaker. He was a bureaucratic operator. Okay,
Speaker 1: So initially, when Stalin takes over finally gets rid of Trotsky,
Speaker 1: did he have all the power right away? Was there
Speaker 1: some kind of central committee with some power in the
Speaker 1: beginning and he got rid of them. Was it immediately
Speaker 1: he ruled the country with an iron fist? What was
Speaker 1: it in the very beginning? In the very beginning, there
Speaker 1: were a couple of what we're called what eventually became
Speaker 1: known as old Bolsheviks, the people who were in the
Speaker 1: first Politbureau around Lenin, people like Zenoviev and Communist and Bukharans,
Speaker 1: the people who at one point during this struggle for
Speaker 1: power were allied with Stalin and then shifted over and
Speaker 1: became allied with Trotsky against Stalin. It was a series
Speaker 1: of these combinations. But by the time Trotsky was ousted,
Speaker 1: Stalin was, for all intents and purposes, in full control.
Speaker 1: The cadres of the party in the Center Committee and
Speaker 1: the Politburo were beginning to be filled with his allies,
Speaker 1: and the people who he opposed and his rivals had
Speaker 1: either been expelled or were on their way up, And
Speaker 1: so there was really no disputing who wasn't charged. By
Speaker 1: the late nineteen twenties. Okay, you've already covered previously the
Speaker 1: things Lennon did initially and then how he had to
Speaker 1: change certain things. What was Stalin's go to initially? Where
Speaker 1: did Stalin begin with his vision? So originally Stalin actually
Speaker 1: opposed so Trotsky was a huge proponent of continuing war
Speaker 1: communism and not backing Lenin's initially on the new economic policy,
Speaker 1: and then there were some shifts in that direction. Stalin
Speaker 1: came in with an attack from the left, saying that
Speaker 1: the new economic policy was a mistake and we had
Speaker 1: to get back to what eventually became collectivization full nationalization,
Speaker 1: so there would be no limited state capitalism really of
Speaker 1: any kind. What needed to happen was rapid industrialization, pretty
Speaker 1: much with the aim of preparing the Soviet Union for war.
Speaker 1: As you recall the last time we've talked, I mentioned
Speaker 1: the unfinished business of nineteen twenty when they couldn't achieve
Speaker 1: what they initially wanted to get in Eastern Europe. Stalin
Speaker 1: had his eye on that and wanted to get the
Speaker 1: Soviet military ready for a new major European campaign, and
Speaker 1: so for that he decided to put a priority on
Speaker 1: heavy industrializations that the cities needed to be fed, and
Speaker 1: you had to emphasize building tractors, large factories that would
Speaker 1: produce heavy equipment that could be quickly converted to tanks
Speaker 1: and artillery and all the rest. And that pretty much
Speaker 1: meant that the peasants had to be forced to provide
Speaker 1: grain to the cities to feed the urban population, and
Speaker 1: there had to be enough hard currency coming into finance
Speaker 1: all of this. So that really was what motivated his
Speaker 1: support for what became collectivisation and the terrible tragedy that
Speaker 1: followed from that. Again, we're speaking with was Rifkin, an
Speaker 1: expert on the history of the Soviet Union. This part
Speaker 1: of our continuing series every Tuesday night at this time. Okay,
Speaker 1: Boris you just alluded to it got terrible, His collectivisation
Speaker 1: got terrible. How terrible? What are you talking about? Them?
Speaker 1: Millions of people dying from starvation all across the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: So we most famously hear about the what was called
Speaker 1: the whole of the Moor in Ukraine, but it was
Speaker 1: really happening all across the country, and basically it was
Speaker 1: the peasants were first who had what were known as kolos.
Speaker 1: These were sort of the quote unquote wealthiest, most productive
Speaker 1: peasants were just driven off the land forcibly exiled, relocated,
Speaker 1: or killed in the millions, and those who were left
Speaker 1: were basically forced onto these collective farms where there was
Speaker 1: no incentive to really do anything, and you know, they
Speaker 1: were really not paid anything, and they were also tied
Speaker 1: to the lands. So Stalin brought back served them to Russia.
Speaker 1: So he took the stripped the peasants of their path sports,
Speaker 1: so they couldn't leave the farms without special permission, So
Speaker 1: effectively they became slaves and had to produce for the
Speaker 1: state alongside this huge gulag system, which actually Lenin began building,
Speaker 1: not Stalin. That's sort of a big myth that you
Speaker 1: hear from the left that it was Stalin who built
Speaker 1: the gulags and the concentration camps. Lenin and Trotsky began that.
Speaker 1: Stalin expanded it and made it far grander and more institutionalized,
Speaker 1: but it really began already with Lenin. And so those
Speaker 1: two aspects of the regime that emerged, this sort of
Speaker 1: forced collectivization, the Schoologs system and the militarization of the
Speaker 1: Soviet unions gearing up for what eventually became the Second
Speaker 1: World War. Those were the animating themes of Stalin's reign
Speaker 1: throughout the nineteen thirties. Okay, and just real quick, boris,
Speaker 1: what does I understand that the Communists don't have any
Speaker 1: regard for human life? I get that part of it.
Speaker 1: But what does Stalin practically get out of starving millions
Speaker 1: of Ukrainians today and people, as you pointed out elsewhere
Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union? What does that benefit him? In reality?
Speaker 1: On the one hand, it was just ideological contempt for
Speaker 1: the peasantry, the same kind that Lennon had, but more narrowly,
Speaker 1: it was a hard currency. He basically, while millions of
Speaker 1: peasants were starving to death, Soviet grain exports to Germany
Speaker 1: by the way, including to Nazi Germany by that point,
Speaker 1: and abroad to Western countries was increased. So you had
Speaker 1: a mass famine happening in your country while you're exporting
Speaker 1: huge amounts of grain abroad. And the reason was to
Speaker 1: get the hard currency to build the factories and to
Speaker 1: eventually build the tanks and to militarize. That was his priority,
Speaker 1: to gear the country up for war and to push
Speaker 1: through this rapid industrialization which required outside investment, and the
Speaker 1: only thing that the Soviet Union could at that point
Speaker 1: really export that would give him the hard currencies was grain.
Speaker 1: Boris Rifkin. Everybody, well, we'll see you again next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: my brother, think you so much, Thanks Jesse. Every Tuesday,
Speaker 1: same time we get a little history lesson on communism
Speaker 1: from Boris Rifkin. And don't forget my history podcast got
Speaker 1: put up yesterday. It's on the same feed on the
Speaker 1: Korean War. Go enjoy that. Now it's just some emails.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to your phone calls eight seven seven
Speaker 1: three seven seven four three seventy three. What's the dumbest
Speaker 1: PG thing you ever did when you had too much
Speaker 1: to drink? This one says Geez Jesse. I got a
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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show, it is the Jesse Kelly Show. I mean,
Speaker 1: who was this genius back from I mean this is
Speaker 1: August twenty second. Who was the guy who was on
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Speaker 1: end of World War One. That's when we really became
Speaker 1: top dog, and we've been top dog ever since. It's
Speaker 1: about one hundred years. The world is looking right now
Speaker 1: and they're asking, are they still top dog? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not what the top dog does. This is
Speaker 1: what some fading power does. That was me back from
Speaker 1: August after Afghanistan. Look where we are now. Look you
Speaker 1: know what the Kremlin just said. You might not have heard.
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Speaker 1: said they're not worried about the sanctions. They knew all
Speaker 1: the sanctions were coming because we told them were they
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Speaker 1: many phone calls on this show. One nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear us small talk. No, Hi, Jesse no, how you
Speaker 1: do and Jesse No, I love the show. Jesse. I
Speaker 1: will not be saying thank you for the call, or
Speaker 1: any of that other painful stuff every other radio show does.
Speaker 1: None When I say your name and location. You go.
Speaker 1: That's one two And I really mean this, and longtime
Speaker 1: listeners will know I mean this. Yes, I'm a bad person.
Speaker 1: I know that we have kids who listen to this
Speaker 1: show regularly. Some kids sneak off and listen to it
Speaker 1: when they're supposed to be going to sleep. That gives
Speaker 1: me a sense of responsibility. I asked for stories about
Speaker 1: dumb things you've done when you've had one too many
Speaker 1: p G stories If you can't keep them PG, hang up,
Speaker 1: all right, PG stories without further ado. Murph in Houston
Speaker 1: a marine This should be good. Go Murph. We were
Speaker 1: at a Marine Corps ball in twenty nine Palms, California,
Speaker 1: and we were so lit. I got cut off at
Speaker 1: the bar, so I pulled the fire alarm. No one
Speaker 1: else could drink. Thank you, Murph. Did you get did
Speaker 1: you get caught? Before I let you go? Brother? I
Speaker 1: did not get in trouble. The the MPs or PMO
Speaker 1: were beaten on my barracks store, but I was half
Speaker 1: dressed in my dress blues and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: my Sharton major covered for me. How about that? Zeparate five?
Speaker 1: My brother? Oh yes, all right, Mark and Idaho go
Speaker 1: my wife is Ukrainian by birth. We were attending one
Speaker 1: of her best friend's wedding in Ukraine and at the
Speaker 1: supper celebrating afterwards, some of the other gentlemen were talking
Speaker 1: amongst themselves as we were doing toasts with vodka, and
Speaker 1: I asked my wife what do they're stand and they said, well,
Speaker 1: the big American, but he can't drink like us. Because
Speaker 1: I was being moderate with my toasting, these guys were
Speaker 1: throwing them back. I'm like, oh, we can't have this.
Speaker 1: Never never, never tried to drink with those folks. How'd
Speaker 1: that night end for you? Mark? I just hung over.
Speaker 1: I was incapacitated for two days. I just over incapacitated,
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. Look look, male pride, male ego has
Speaker 1: gotten many a man in trouble, all right, many a
Speaker 1: man in trouble, especially if you've had one too many.
Speaker 1: I can hang with them. Oh wow, I'm in di
Speaker 1: That's how these things happen. I'm telling you, Johnny and
Speaker 1: Jersey go. Well, about two years after my first divorce
Speaker 1: in my mid thirties, I'm about to go go bar
Speaker 1: drinking away, jacked up on all this and that, and
Speaker 1: I side did jump up on the bar, across the
Speaker 1: bar and starting in the middle of the bar working
Speaker 1: the pole. The three bouncers decided I was very disrespectful,
Speaker 1: come grab me. One opens the door and the other
Speaker 1: two tossed me out into the tomster in the back
Speaker 1: of the building. I am genuinely sorry I missed that.
Speaker 1: My friend man, I wish there was an Internet video
Speaker 1: of that out there. Gosh, Ken in Idaho, go. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: one evening, me and my friend when I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: we liberated a bottle of schnops and some cigars from
Speaker 1: his dad's stashing, climbed up on the roof as we
Speaker 1: usually did to watch the sunset and shoot some birds,
Speaker 1: and sooner or later we decided to smoke those cigars,
Speaker 1: but being so drunk, I couldn't light the match and
Speaker 1: it was kind of windy, so we decided to eat
Speaker 1: the cigar. My friend didn't, but I did, and shortly
Speaker 1: thereafter I started throwing up. So I went to the
Speaker 1: edge of the roof to try to throw up and
Speaker 1: then ended up falling off the roof. To this day,
Speaker 1: I don't drink snops or brush my teeth with peppermint
Speaker 1: tooth taste. Thank you, Ken. I'm glad to hear you
Speaker 1: made it out. Okay eight seven seven three seven seven
Speaker 1: four three seven three's the what's the dumbest PG thing
Speaker 1: you've ever done? When you've had tvndy. I do have
Speaker 1: to get to some emails before I get to these
Speaker 1: poll numbers. You see, they took a poll, They took
Speaker 1: a pool about what American Democrats what they think about
Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau. I mean, let's remember, we Americans, we just
Speaker 1: watched our friendly neighbor to the north take a bunch
Speaker 1: of peaceful, fun loving truckers and they stumped their heads
Speaker 1: into the ground for days on end. This, I mean,
Speaker 1: this was the Ottawa police. I just want to get
Speaker 1: a coffee. Okay, wh in my face? Right? Are you
Speaker 1: here right now? You're in I'm scared. I want to
Speaker 1: go for a coffee down there? Where can I you're not.
Speaker 1: It's time for you to leave. I can't even go
Speaker 1: down there for coffee. Your red zone right now. If
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Speaker 1: you understand me? Grab yourself because if you see you
Speaker 1: will be a trolling all day. We see you again,
Speaker 1: it'll be different. Tell you take your camera and get
Speaker 1: out of here. You understand that I walk away. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think you get a good idea where that one went.
Speaker 1: We just watched an entire weekend of them stomping a
Speaker 1: woman's head into the ground with a horse. Things like that.
Speaker 1: There's an internet video out there. I'm sure we've put
Speaker 1: it on our social media of cops beating the crap
Speaker 1: out of some poor guy who didn't lay a hand
Speaker 1: on the cops. What What did American democrats see when
Speaker 1: they saw that you were horrified? Would an American democratcy
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a second.