WEBVTT - Hour 2: Drinking Stories 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:15.880 Look Jessie Kelly Show thirty minutes from now. Boris Rifkin 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.919 with his continuing series every Tuesday at the same time 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.119 on the Soviet Union, communism, How did we get here? 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.320 All that's coming. I'm gonna get the Medal of Honor Tuesday, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.120 which is normally on Monday. Here in just a second 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:38.240 couple of housekeeping items. One, don't miss Miranda Divine. She's 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.879 on my TV show tonight nine pm Eastern Time. Just 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.320 don't miss that. One the whole Hunter Biden, Joe Biden Ukraine. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.640 Now we're involved in Ukraine thing. She's a wealth of 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.960 information there. I would tune into that. That's on the 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:57.720 first TV app. That's one. Two. Justin Trudeau stood up 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:03.400 today and gave a little speech on Vladimir Putin. Canada 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.319 and our allies will defend democracy. We are taking these 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:14.520 actions today to stand against authoritarianism. The people of Ukraine, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.600 like all people, must be free to determine their own future. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.839 We will continue working with our international partners to safeguard 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:29.680 Ukraine's territorial integrity and prevent further Russian aggression. I have 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.440 to say, I know this won't be popular. I stand 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:39.479 with Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden against authoritarianism. I mean, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.119 what could be worse that? Think about this, Think about 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.199 how disgusting this is. What if a leader of a nation, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.480 what if he threw his political opponents in jail and 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.480 kept them there? I mean, how can you even imagine that? 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.160 Can you wrap your mind around this? What if? I mean, gosh, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.360 talk about authoritarianism and tyranny? What if what if the 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:08.680 leader of a nation killed innocent people on foreign soil? 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.680 Could could you even wrap your mind around that? Gosh? 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.760 That would be crazy, wouldn't it. Oh, they're just despicable, 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.839 Thank goodness. Nothing like that can happen here, Thank goodness. Look, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.280 you'd never catch Western leaders freezing the assets of their 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:31.240 own citizens. Disgusting. The financial instruments which our government is 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:37.440 using right now to act against these illegal blockades and 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:44.280 illegal occupation. We reviewed very very carefully the tools at 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:49.160 the disposal of the federal government, and we determined that 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:54.520 we needed some additional tools. Now, some of them. Chris, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.400 who is that Russian man? She doesn't she has really 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:03.920 cleaned up her accent. Who oh, oh, that's Canada's Deputy Freeland. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.360 Oh okay, all right, Well, I mean at least look, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.360 at least we can criticize Putin for going out there 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.880 and intentionally raising energy prices on his own citizens Keystone Pipeline. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.760 I'm sorry, I said it at the beginning of the show. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:27.080 I'll say it again. Western governments in America, Canada, Australia, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:32.280 New Zealand, France and other places. Western governments taking the 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.680 force of government and aiming it at their own citizens 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.560 is by far the biggest story in the world right now. 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.440 And I don't care if Vladimir Putin takes over all 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.120 of Eastern Europe. That ain't gonna change for you or 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.720 me now without further ado. Normally we do this on Mondays, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.640 but we were all gone yesterday and we felt an 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.640 obligation to do it today. It's time for Medal of 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:02.440 Honor Monday on Tuesday, right, hey, honoring those who went 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:12.360 above and beyond its Medal of Honor Monday. This is 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:18.440 US Air Force, This is Afghanistan. Technical Sergeant John A. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.919 Chapman distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism as an Air Force 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.599 Special Tactics combat controller attached to a Navy Sea, Air 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.760 and Land Team that Seals Seal team conducting reconnaissance Operations 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.719 and Takugar, Afghanistan. On March fourth, two thousand and two. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.800 During the insertion, the team's helicopter was ambushed, causing a 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.119 team aide to fall into an entrenched group of enemy 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:48.760 combatants below. Sergeant Chapman and his team voluntarily reinserted onto 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.640 the snowcap mountain into the heart of an known enemy 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.960 stronghold to rescue one of their own without regard for 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:01.039 his own safety. Sergeant Chapman immediately engage aged, moving in 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.400 the direction of the closest enemy position. Despite coming under 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:09.000 heavy fire from multiple directions, he fearlessly charged an enemy 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.800 bunker up a steep incline in thigh deep snow and 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:17.480 into hostile fire, directing directly engaging the enemy. Upon reaching 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:21.680 the bunker, Sergeant Chapman assaulted and cleared the position, killing 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.960 all enemy occupants with complete disregard for his own life. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.920 Sergeant Chapman deliberately moved from cover only twelve meters from 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.159 the enemy and exposed himself once again to attack a 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.479 second bunker from which an emplaced machine gun was firing 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.520 on his team. Sergeant Chapman was struck and injured by 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:44.720 enemy fire. Despite severe mortal wounds. He continued to fight relentlessly, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:49.799 sustaining a violent engagement with multiple enemy personnel before making 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.560 the ultimate sacrifice by his heroic actions an extraordinary valor, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.160 sacrificing his life for the lives of his teammates. Technical 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.560 Sergeant Chapman upheld the highest adition to military service and 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.679 reflected great credit upon himself in the United States Air Force. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:12.520 Let us always remember those are the men we remember now. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.720 I brought up something earlier. It's going to sound a 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.320 little off topic, but I think it's pretty much applicable 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.920 to where we're at now because all the heavines are 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.760 out here right now. Supreme Court to hear Colorado clash 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:31.760 over LGBTQ rights and religious liberty. They essentially want to 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.760 know you remember all that wedding cake fiasco garbage where 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.359 all the LGBTQ Air Force people were charging into this 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.480 guy's what is Christian bakery and trying to make him 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.600 make gay wedding cakes. And look, I don't care how 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.239 offensive you take this as not if you're a business, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.679 I've just been given the rules for the last two years. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.040 If I'm running a business, I can refuse you service 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:01.000 for anything I want not vaccinated, Get out senated, get 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.040 out mask it out. Black Nope, don't serve pit black 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.280 people here, choose go Italian. Sorry, Up, you're too tall. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.880 We're not selling you burgers here. Up you're too fat. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.120 Go somewhere else for your smoothies. Gay people, Nope, gays 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:21.880 need not apply. Does that sound harsh, Well, that's that's 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.560 so weird how people think discrimination all of a sudden 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.840 sounds harsh again, because I just read for you. I 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.960 just read for you an email from a guy who 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.120 just lost his job after twenty eight years because of discrimination. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.720 I could read email after email after email after email 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.760 from people, I can't go here, my daughter can't go there, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.520 my son can't go here. I'm not allowed here. No 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.400 no, no no, no, no no, no no no no no. Don't 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.520 you dare let these communists now step up and claim 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.960 discrimination for anything. Discrimination is now part of the law 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.360 in America. It is part of the law here. Sorry, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.440 you just did it now. Don't get me wrong. I 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.520 wouldn't necessarily recommend you start refusing service to tall people, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.000 after all, were the best, And I definitely wouldn't start 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.240 refusing service to others who may help your business. But hey, 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.440 you've been given the rules, and the rules were handed 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.640 out very clearly. And once again, the people who spent 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.240 the time handing out these rules that we will now 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:25.720 follow didn't seem to realize. Norms change when you change norms. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:29.360 When you tell businesses slap a sign on your door, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.920 you're not welcome. Sorry, unvaccinated people aren'ty been allowed in 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.880 the door. Sorry, you're the dirty, lower second class than 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.439 you had better expect. That's coming around the other way. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.040 And all once again say this when it comes to 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:50.640 that stuff. I don't even know if I should say 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.840 we anymore, because I don't think I consider myself in 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.120 this camp. I'll tell you this. For the longest time, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.760 I would have considered myself very much in the more 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.240 libertarian camp. I don't think I would have called myself 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.480 a libertarian. But you know those stupid little tests you 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.920 take online where they determine where you fall, Almost always 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.800 I would get libertarian. I was just a very big hey, 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.400 keep government out of it, get government out of it, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.160 live and let live. Don't care, don't whatever you do, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.640 don't care. I'll leave you alone. You leave me alone, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.000 and I will tell you I still believe that is 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.920 the way a government should be. That's the way a 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.439 country should be set up. But I have really really 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.880 come around to how truly naive that was when dealing 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:41.080 with communists. They're never going to leave you alone. They're 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.280 never going to remain neutral. They're not going to respect 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.280 the live and let live thing. These people are monsters 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.440 who are out to dominate you. These people want to 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:57.080 hurt you, and these people don't want to I don't know. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.280 Just be neutral on values. There's such thing as neutrality 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.480 on values. That's what I got wrong. For so long. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:08.520 You are either pushing yours or they're pushing theirs. That's 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.400 simply a fact. Staying out of that fight has been 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.160 the great failure of the right, and younger Jesse participated 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.520 wholeheartedly in that it is time to engage in that 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.240 it is time to be anti communists. All right, A 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.920 US House candidate has had issue an apology, and we're 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.120 going to talk about exactly what she did here in 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.920 just a second. You know what, I might even take 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.439 calls tonight eight seven seven three seven seven four three 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.560 seven three Now have you gotten your hero gun yet? 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.600 Be honest? Shoots non lethal pepper balls one hundred miles 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.040 per hour. They explode on contact. 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Go to Hero twenty 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.360 twenty dot com use the code Jesse, and that gets 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.160 you a special discount. Hero twenty twenty dot com Code Jesse. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:41.800 State restrictions may apply. Miss something. There's a podcast getting 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.920 on demand wherever podcasts are found, The Jesse Kelly Show. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.840 It is The Jesse Kelly Show. And look, I thought, 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:03.080 before I get to America, democrats, current Democrats, not older ones, 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.040 current Democrats, what they feel about what's happening in Canada. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:10.559 Before I get to this FBI story golli and before 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.880 I get to the phones eight seven seven three seven 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:19.199 seven four three seven three. First and foremost, let's acknowledge baby, 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:36.640 it's National Margarite to day. I am so in honor 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.800 of National Margarite today, I thought it would be appropriate. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.439 I'm sorry, it's not funny. Is this? This story is 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.880 not funny and I better not catch anybody laughing out there. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.960 I thought it would be appropriate to uh read this 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:54.200 story from Oklahoma. The headline is the US candidate sorry 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.680 for intoxication during a sleepover. A US House candidate in 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.280 Oklahoma has a apologized after reports that she became intoxicated 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.560 at a Valentine's Day weekend sleepover for middle eight school girls, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:14.320 be rated several of the children, and vomited in a hamper. Sorry, 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.040 it's not funny, all right. Democrat Abbey Broyles, thirty two, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:23.360 told television station Kfore she had an adverse reaction after 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.200 drinking wine and taping in taking sleep medication given to 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.520 her by a friend. Okay, first, let's pause right there, 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.360 pause the look. I just I want to explain something 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.000 to everybody out there. And this applies to politicians, actors, athletes. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:43.400 Maybe it applies to you in your life. Nobody ever 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.160 buys the stupid lame stories people came up with. Remember 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.120 all the Remember all the baseball players who were jacking 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.319 homers during Baseball's big steroids thing. Remember when Barry Bonds 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.560 heads swelled up like a tick and he's blasting eighty 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.880 homers a year. And then they add this big before Congress, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.040 which was a stupid waste of time anyway, But during 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.920 this hearing, every single one of the athletes was saying 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.360 things like, well, I don't I don't know. I thought 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.720 it was tile on all and then I just started 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.200 swelling up, or or I don't know. A friend gave 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.000 me this cream. And remember I forget who which was 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.640 It might have been multiple of them, neighbor. They were 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.400 accused him injecting something. Then you actually said, oh, I'm 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.840 not sure what it was. Yeah, because boy, I don't 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.960 know about you. Just hand me a needle and I'll 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.280 just pump whatever's in there into my body. Remember how 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.920 lame that sounded. Remember when joy and read that brain 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.880 Dad loser for MSNBC when she got busted. Apparently she 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.200 had some old blog which nobody read, and she had 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.160 a bunch of anti gay stuff on there, and then 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:48.560 she said, well I got hacked, and that brings us 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.120 to Abby here, Abby Broyles, just as we begin our 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:56.880 journey down this wonderful, wonderful story. Okay, you didn't have 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.200 an adverse reaction to wine and the sleeping medication a 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:06.200 friend gave to you. Yeah, but maybe you mixed wine 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.800 with the sleeping medication. But why do you always have 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.320 to throw in the mystery? Friend? Lady, you got white 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:18.040 girl wasted at a middle age sleepover, and you really 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.480 kind of made a gigantic butt of yourself. All right, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.680 you didn't, you didn't do well, But let's continue down 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.960 the story. I just that PSA was for all people 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.120 to just be honest in this day and age, No 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.120 matter how scared you are of the social media mob, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.760 no matter how scared you are of the phone call 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.360 from your boss. Everyone knows the truth. Your minds will 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.600 just come right out and admit it. You know you. Look, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.840 you don't even have to apologize, you know me, I'll 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.760 never apologize for anything. I don't care what I do. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.000 Let me just get out ahead of this right now. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.880 Whatever I'm accused of, I probably did it, probably a 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.600 hundred guilty it's just just count me in. It's guilty 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:00.480 right now. That's fine, Chris, It'll be fine, no big deal. Instead, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.280 she continues on, let's move along down the story. Instead 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.160 of helping me sleep, I hallucinated. I love that part. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.880 Oh yeah, of course I blacked out and I don't 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.800 remember anything until I woke up or came two and 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.120 I was throwing up in a hamper. She said she 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.400 was invited to a slumber party by a good friend 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.280 from law school who was a mother of one of 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.080 the girls. Parents of at least one of the girls 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.040 who were at the sleepover told the online news outlet 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.840 non Doc that Broyles use profanity and be rated several 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.880 of the twelve and thirteen year old girls at the party, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:45.680 commenting on one girl's acne and another's Hispanic ethnicity. I'm sorry, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.720 I'm sorry. Look, I know what's not supposed to be funny. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:54.920 It's hilarious. It's absolutely hilarious. One a lot of people 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.960 out there, they don't do very well with alcohol. And 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.400 if you're one of those people, but listen, listen, I 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.400 believe that is kind of like one of those how 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.400 God Made you things. Some people's bodies just chemically don't 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:11.160 do well with alcohol. I had a friend, he would 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:17.360 go nameless. He would oftentimes disappear if he had alcohol. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.560 This is back in the Marine Corps, and we would 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.879 have to routinely, this wasn't just once. We would have 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.560 to routinely go out on search parties for him to 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.119 find him. We would oftentimes find that he and they remember, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.120 this is like an upstanding normal guy in normal sober things. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.600 We would find that he had broken into someone else's 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.240 barracks room and passed out on someone else's bed. That 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.320 was his thing. He wanted to go to a room 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.760 that wasn't his and pass out on the bed. And 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.800 if you tried to wake him up, he'd start fighting you. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.360 He'd just start punching you. You had to get ready 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.280 to start fighting. The look he was a normal person 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.560 in normal times. He didn't do well with alcohol. If 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.640 you find yourself making fun of a twelve year old 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:00.280 girl's pimples and throwing up in a hamper, may maybe 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.680 it's time to find a new vice of some kind. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.080 Maybe it's time to take up knitting. Look, that's just me, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:09.160 that's it. We've all had a night, all right, all right, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.480 you know what that just gave me an idea. And 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:19.040 I want to remind everybody this is a family show, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:27.400 a family show. Kids listen to this show. What's the 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.720 Dumbest Thing? PG rated? What is the dumbest thing You've 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.640 ever done? After you've had one too many? Eight seven 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.840 seven three seven seven four three seven three. You know 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.520 what we're about to do next. We're about to go 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.840 to Boris Rifkin. He's gonna keep us updated on where 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.480 we left off with the Soviet Union and communism. But 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.560 when I get done with Boris, he's gonna last about 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:57.040 ten minutes. Eight seven seven three seven seven four three 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:03.440 seven three. What's the dumbest eg thing You've ever done? 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.960 After you've had one? Two many? All right, and it's 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:19.720 been heavy enough, let's have some fun hanging. But it 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.040 is the Jesse Kelly's Show, and we are doing something 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:27.439 we've never done before. Every single Tuesday, at this exact time, 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.800 we talked to Boris Rifkin. He's the sole member of 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.439 Monta Fly Holdings. He's also a history expert, especially on 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.119 communism stuff. I learned so much from this guy. In 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.399 a case you missed the last two, he's not going 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.200 to recap the last two because we only have it 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.800 for one segment. You gotta go download the podcast. Last 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.919 two tuesdays, same thing, but Boris, we finished off last 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.320 Tuesday and Lennon just died. Okay, so Lennon dies, we 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.359 have the largest country on earth? Was it just a 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.919 given Stalin was coming next? Well, thanks for having me 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.919 on again, Jeff, and just wanted to preface our conversation today. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.480 It's a really timely time seems to be talking about 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.520 all of this, given Potin's address, the Ukraine situation, and 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.760 how everything is put into a historical context. He's certainly 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.000 looking back about a century and a half. It would 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.600 be refreshing if our officials did the same and had 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.199 some historical groundings. So it just makes these segments that 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.240 much more important, I think, to understand what's going on, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.240 and so to get to the question. So not initially, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:37.520 there was already, even before it was pretty clear that 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:39.600 he was going to pass on soon he had a 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.800 few strokes, there was already a struggle for power behind 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:48.000 the scenes between and Initially. What's interesting is people assumed 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.080 that Trotsky was seen as the air apparent and was 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:56.239 bound to succeed him, but in reality Trotsky was a 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.280 bit indifferent, He was indecisive. He didn't initially want to 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.480 necessarily gets the top job, and that was a huge 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.679 part of the reason why eventually Stalin was able to 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:10.040 organize a few combinations against him. So first Stalin attacked 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.240 him from the right, then he attacked him from the left, 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:19.920 and eventually, after about really a two year definitively power struggle, 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:24.719 Stalin was able to force Trotsky out of the party 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.199 and eventually have him expelled from the country altogether. And 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.679 by really nineteen twenty six, but to be very generous, 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.280 nineteen twenty eight or really nineteen twenty six, Stalin had 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:39.680 emerged as the undisputed leader of the Soviet Union, even 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.240 though he was never formally de Yuri, the head of 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.399 the government. He was really kind of an interesting setup 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.679 so that there was a formal head of the government 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.280 with somebody else, so he was always sort of the 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.280 one who everybody knew was in fact running the country 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.840 and in charge, but he preferred to stay behind the 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:00.320 scenes in terms of who was putting their signature on what, 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.160 in making any kind of public statements, because he wasn't 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:08.520 really a great order or speaker. He was a bureaucratic operator. Okay, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.919 So initially, when Stalin takes over finally gets rid of Trotsky, 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:17.240 did he have all the power right away? Was there 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.520 some kind of central committee with some power in the 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.119 beginning and he got rid of them. Was it immediately 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.760 he ruled the country with an iron fist? What was 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.400 it in the very beginning? In the very beginning, there 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.160 were a couple of what we're called what eventually became 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.040 known as old Bolsheviks, the people who were in the 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:39.480 first Politbureau around Lenin, people like Zenoviev and Communist and Bukharans, 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.679 the people who at one point during this struggle for 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:48.399 power were allied with Stalin and then shifted over and 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.000 became allied with Trotsky against Stalin. It was a series 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.560 of these combinations. But by the time Trotsky was ousted, 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.400 Stalin was, for all intents and purposes, in full control. 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.680 The cadres of the party in the Center Committee and 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.560 the Politburo were beginning to be filled with his allies, 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.960 and the people who he opposed and his rivals had 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.960 either been expelled or were on their way up, And 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.640 so there was really no disputing who wasn't charged. By 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.199 the late nineteen twenties. Okay, you've already covered previously the 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.600 things Lennon did initially and then how he had to 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.960 change certain things. What was Stalin's go to initially? Where 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:29.000 did Stalin begin with his vision? So originally Stalin actually 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:35.080 opposed so Trotsky was a huge proponent of continuing war 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:39.640 communism and not backing Lenin's initially on the new economic policy, 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.400 and then there were some shifts in that direction. Stalin 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:46.240 came in with an attack from the left, saying that 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:49.320 the new economic policy was a mistake and we had 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:54.240 to get back to what eventually became collectivization full nationalization, 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.639 so there would be no limited state capitalism really of 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.760 any kind. What needed to happen was rapid industrialization, pretty 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.560 much with the aim of preparing the Soviet Union for war. 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.560 As you recall the last time we've talked, I mentioned 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.359 the unfinished business of nineteen twenty when they couldn't achieve 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.320 what they initially wanted to get in Eastern Europe. Stalin 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.119 had his eye on that and wanted to get the 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:22.480 Soviet military ready for a new major European campaign, and 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.240 so for that he decided to put a priority on 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.800 heavy industrializations that the cities needed to be fed, and 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:34.280 you had to emphasize building tractors, large factories that would 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.439 produce heavy equipment that could be quickly converted to tanks 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.280 and artillery and all the rest. And that pretty much 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.320 meant that the peasants had to be forced to provide 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.920 grain to the cities to feed the urban population, and 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.520 there had to be enough hard currency coming into finance 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.639 all of this. So that really was what motivated his 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.520 support for what became collectivisation and the terrible tragedy that 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.000 followed from that. Again, we're speaking with was Rifkin, an 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.560 expert on the history of the Soviet Union. This part 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.480 of our continuing series every Tuesday night at this time. Okay, 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:11.040 Boris you just alluded to it got terrible, His collectivisation 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.000 got terrible. How terrible? What are you talking about? Them? 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.280 Millions of people dying from starvation all across the Soviet Union. 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.240 So we most famously hear about the what was called 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.280 the whole of the Moor in Ukraine, but it was 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:29.439 really happening all across the country, and basically it was 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:34.119 the peasants were first who had what were known as kolos. 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.879 These were sort of the quote unquote wealthiest, most productive 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:41.560 peasants were just driven off the land forcibly exiled, relocated, 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.800 or killed in the millions, and those who were left 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.960 were basically forced onto these collective farms where there was 0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:52.199 no incentive to really do anything, and you know, they 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.639 were really not paid anything, and they were also tied 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.600 to the lands. So Stalin brought back served them to Russia. 0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.320 So he took the stripped the peasants of their path sports, 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:05.080