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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares, Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If

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Speaker 1: you're your hosts Michael Buffis and.

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Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, you are listening to Hawks Live presented by

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Speaker 2: the Dining District after the Bellvy Collection. The show starts

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Speaker 2: at seven every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven

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Speaker 2: to ten, broadcasting live from Bellby Square Center Court and

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Speaker 2: with my guy Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 3: And we're wasting no time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys recognize as young man

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Speaker 2: here right now it is Halloween. Butill let me tell

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Speaker 2: you a little bit about him, all right. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's from Highland Springs, Virginia. Letterd in two sports men

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Speaker 2: All State and the two sports also played for Clemson

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Speaker 2: when a national championship was drafted in the fourth round

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Speaker 2: by the Philadelphia Eagles fifth year in the league. Give

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Speaker 2: it up for dB Kvon Wallace one time, Kyvon, you're

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Speaker 2: ready for Halloween?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely, got look good.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about this is what they do in the

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Speaker 3: Red Carver right, tell me about what you're wearing. Who

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Speaker 3: you were right now.

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Speaker 6: I am Ron Weasley from Harry Potter.

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Speaker 3: Are you a big Harry Potter Fanah?

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Speaker 6: Well, my lady is more of a big Harry Potter

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Speaker 6: fan than I am. But I know a little something.

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Speaker 6: I watched all the movies.

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Speaker 7: All right, say, well, you got your family here, so

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Speaker 7: did you come as regrets to tell me about your kids?

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Speaker 5: Halloween is a big deal for.

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Speaker 6: Okay, my son Keiko, he's Harry Potter. Okay, Nia is

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Speaker 6: Harry Potter's wife. I forgot her name, sorry, and my

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Speaker 6: lady is Hermione because Ron and Hermione ended up being

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Speaker 6: together later on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, set in that future.

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Speaker 3: Family the family theme.

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Speaker 2: Look, Harry Potter, I think the closest I got to

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Speaker 2: a family theme were Ninja Turtles my whole family, and

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Speaker 2: we got five. I'm married, I got three kids five

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Speaker 2: naturally I was Michaelangelo. You know, my wife should have

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Speaker 2: been Massive Splinter, show us telling us what to do,

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Speaker 2: so she should have been Master Splinter. I forgot which

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Speaker 2: which she was, though, man, But thanks joining us. Man,

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Speaker 2: it's a Thursday, it's Halloween. And then I know you've

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Speaker 2: got stuff to do, so we'll get you in and out.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: So you're here in Seattle. Man, it's first impressions of Seattle.

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Speaker 2: How do you like it so far?

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Speaker 6: It's dope. The people, the fans crazy, The organization is beautiful.

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Speaker 6: Just just the practice facility is my favorite part about

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Speaker 6: it because we practiced right by the lake. Some people

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Speaker 6: come out on their boats sometimes give us a little

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Speaker 6: way their houses on the lake. It's just it's just

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Speaker 6: a beautiful scenery. And then we're on the green grass man,

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Speaker 6: doing what we do best, and it's it's just, you know,

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Speaker 6: always fun, just getting with the guys and and winning.

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Speaker 6: It's all about winning, and hopefully we can get y'all

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Speaker 6: win this Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Sir, you have lived a pretty blessed life.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: One thing that's fun is when we get you guys

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Speaker 7: coming here, we get tell, you know, research you and

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Speaker 7: you know, really successful in high school, All state as

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Speaker 7: wide receiver in the DV state champ goes to Clemson,

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Speaker 7: two time national champ.

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Speaker 5: Good drafted by Philly. Almost the super Bowl, the super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Almost need the super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: But you know they usually say when guys have that

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Speaker 7: much success, make sure you hire them.

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Speaker 5: So we're going to talk after this for your post career.

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Speaker 5: It's just just something from you've been little.

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Speaker 7: Have you just always been successful in sports and in

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Speaker 6: Well, it took. It took a little while. Growing up,

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Speaker 6: I was usually on the worst team, just being everything

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Speaker 6: In high school, I ended up starting my senior year

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Speaker 6: end up winning the state championship, last state championship, first

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Speaker 6: it just started being in like a domino effect. I

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Speaker 6: ended up getting offers, end up going to Clemson, and

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Speaker 6: my first national championship. That was Dope with Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 6: And then I went to I went to the playoffs

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Speaker 6: every year in college. Blessed to even be available. I was,

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Speaker 6: I was healthy, then miss no games. I think I

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Speaker 3: Just just blessed.

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Speaker 6: Just you gotta have a little bit of luck too, though,

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Speaker 6: you know, gotta have some luck, Gotta have some faith,

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Speaker 6: Gotta gotta always just put yourself in a position to.

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Speaker 5: To be okay.

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Speaker 6: You gotta watch who you're around, the influences, all that stuff.

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Speaker 6: You just gotta always be at the right place at

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Speaker 6: get to this point, and that's why I'm continuous to

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Speaker 6: be having success.

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Speaker 3: Bump.

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Speaker 5: He said his high school team was Stack. Went to Clemson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was Stack too, y'all. Y'all, y'all changed the

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Speaker 2: It says you appeared in fifty nine games, so you're

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Speaker 2: well seasoned, and you got to hear Dabbos speak a lot.

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Speaker 3: I went to a coaches clinic in.

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Speaker 2: Portland, and Dabo flew over in a jet and and

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Speaker 2: he spoke to us, and within three minutes I was

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm leaning forward. I'm listening to him to

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Speaker 2: And uh, just the way he talks about his life,

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Speaker 2: his philosophy, what he believes in, and his team. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty eight. I'm ready to play for you right now.

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Speaker 4: Coach.

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Speaker 3: What was it like playing for Dabo?

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Speaker 6: Man was just an energetic guy, but he's a players coach.

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Speaker 6: He knew everybody in my family, name, the ages, the schools,

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Speaker 6: Like his memory is just so long, man, and and

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Speaker 6: it make you respect him even more that he cares

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Speaker 6: and really like put put the business aside. He wanted

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Speaker 6: And you know, as as a young guy just growing

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Speaker 6: He coached with so much love and so much joy,

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Speaker 6: and it's just contagious and everybody feed off of that.

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Speaker 6: And that's why we want to go out there, run

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Speaker 6: He's a great guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he seems like it comes across me.

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Speaker 5: Wears his heart on his sleeve.

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Speaker 3: Just in this off season.

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Speaker 6: This off season, I was on his bat just round

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Speaker 5: Don't super dupe clem.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of cool stadiums in college, great experiences

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Speaker 7: in the SEC. Clemson, though, has that tradition man, the

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Speaker 7: I don't know if you can even describe it, but

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Speaker 6: It's just it's all about the culture.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Debo sets the standard there and all the players got

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Speaker 6: to buy into it. You you have to develop, you

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Speaker 6: Clemson man, it's just it's so peaceful there, man, just

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Speaker 6: being free.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: The culture. I could just talk about the culture there.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: Just the way he just sets the standard and the

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Speaker 4: Just follow.

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Speaker 2: So I played receiver in the league and we have

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Speaker 2: a Everyone calls us divas, right, diva receivers and stuff,

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Speaker 3: But DB's got a chip on their shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Man, I have not met a dB who did not

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Speaker 3: Well, what's what's your personality like on the football field?

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Speaker 4: Man? It depends.

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Speaker 6: It depends. Some games. I get a little bit more

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Speaker 6: rowdy than others. You know, some some teams don't talk much.

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Speaker 6: You got some teams that won't say nothing. And it's

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Speaker 3: But I always bring my own.

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Speaker 6: Energy, high energy at it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: If if I make a play or somebody else make

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Speaker 6: or I made the play. Just doing celebrations, just just

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Speaker 6: always about the team, always about my guys and building

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Speaker 6: them up and they building me up. It's it's it's

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Speaker 6: a team thing. And it's just beautiful.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 6: My person on that field is just I do whatever

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Speaker 6: I can to represent the name on my back, which

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Speaker 6: is Wallace and my family back home, and then the

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Speaker 6: name on the front was the Seahawks and the organization.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: I just I just always want to put good stuff

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Speaker 6: on tape and and and that personality helps me do that. Well.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna ask a couple of questions, but producers

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Speaker 7: that we get one more from you. Tell me something then,

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Speaker 7: or tell them tell something that we wouldn't know about

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Speaker 7: you that you could maybe share.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't know, Uh, wouldn't you know?

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Speaker 5: What do you love to do away from football? Man?

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Speaker 6: I do a lot. I do a lot of Like So,

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Speaker 6: my mom has this group back home where it's a

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Speaker 6: bunch of kids who need a little bit of help,

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Speaker 6: and she allows me to speak to them and speak

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Speaker 3: I'm a gamer, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I play the game a lot, but when it's football, man,

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Speaker 2: Well, Kavon, just by talking to you, I can tell

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Speaker 3: Your a hell of a dad too.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Go out there and have supulchia family. Thanks for taking time.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Thank you all right, Coming up next, man,

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Speaker 2: we'll give you a high level preview of the opponent

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 3: We are right here Belvy Square Center Court. It's Halloween

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Speaker 5: I'm not throwing this film away, but I'm also not

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Speaker 7: I went for the first thirty three plays, which is

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Speaker 5: You can't do that early. I mean, there's just a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a theory that I have about this defense.

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Speaker 2: You have a bunch of new coaches, and it seems

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Speaker 2: Were talking about how the defense does the seam in

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Speaker 5: I mean he is a good football player.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's first play of the game they run

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Speaker 5: He's good fifteen tackles.

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Speaker 7: So that's all I'm send a new learning curve for him.

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Speaker 7: Because I think there's times where we'll get two three

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Speaker 5: And so you got to be on sync.

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Speaker 7: It's it's simple but hard, yeah, and it takes reps.

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Speaker 5: We're close.

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Speaker 7: It's I would say, you're never as good or as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the tough part about this year is that

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Gina's been playing some good ball. He's the third most

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Speaker 7: Well, how much does DK help coming back from that

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Speaker 2: And you know, as a safety, if you have a

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Speaker 3: What does that do?

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Speaker 2: It creates space between those backers in the safeties and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we really didn't push it. And look, man, this

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Speaker 5: If we score from the two yard line the two

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Speaker 3: Ball, I mean we ran it down right.

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Speaker 2: It was a seven zero and seven to three A

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Speaker 2: you missed out on essentially eleven points. You should have

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about a postgame. We will probably

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Speaker 3: It was just unlucky. But when you get down there.

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Speaker 3: You have to be efficient.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is That was a game where if you

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Speaker 7: You may not go and say, hey, we got to

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Speaker 7: Buffalo their offensive line. Look, we've played Buffalo, San Francisco, Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, we got a problem probably with

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Speaker 5: Make some fixes.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what adjustments they make, and we're

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Hawks Live every Thursday at seven

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Speaker 2: right here in Saltad Sports seven ten.

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Speaker 3: I'm Michael Bumpus with.

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Speaker 2: My guy Paul Bowyer, and now we are joined by

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Speaker 2: Seahawks running back Kenny McIntosh. Kenny, how we doing, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good on you and we're doing all right

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Speaker 2: things for joining us on a Thursday.

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Speaker 3: No, no trick or treating for you. Huh you at

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Speaker 3: the house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm handing that candy though, but I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: be walking around doing anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the football questions, I just want

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Speaker 2: to tell you go Koog's because your brother used to

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Speaker 2: play for for WSU.

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Speaker 4: Man, go Coo Goko. Yeah. A lot of people out

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Speaker 4: this way, man know his name hand. They always he's

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Speaker 4: come up to me, run up to me when they

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Speaker 4: get a chance. Man. I always say, yeah, he's a

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Speaker 4: good guy. Man, So go cools man.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: What's what's that? What's that?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 3: Running back room?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Because I've spoken to Ken Walker, he seems a little quiet.

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Speaker 2: I spoken as that he seems a little quiet. But

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to you a couple of times. You seem

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Speaker 2: like you're the personality in that room.

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Speaker 4: Many. Yeah, man, sometimes i'd be I'd be getting it

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Speaker 4: out of him sometimes, man, making them laugh and joke

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Speaker 4: around sometimes and getting the sense of human to come

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Speaker 4: out sometime. But now, once you get to know them guys, man,

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Speaker 4: definitely definitely funny, definitely great to be around. And it's

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Speaker 4: always a great time to be around when I'm around

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Speaker 4: those guys. So it's all cool when once you get

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Speaker 4: to know them, man, But yeah, they are quiet.

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Speaker 5: We uh, We've been pretty blessed here tonight. We got

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Speaker 5: a lot of success here.

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Speaker 7: We had Keavon Wallace earlier, who was a two time

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Speaker 7: national champ. You were a two time national champ at Georgia.

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Speaker 7: So success breeds on this show today. One thing, you know,

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Speaker 7: I mean one thing. You know, last year, you know,

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Speaker 7: you get the injury. You know, that's that's gotta be tough,

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Speaker 7: just sitting out, and then finally this year you got

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Speaker 7: some touches. I know you want more, but what was

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Speaker 7: it like to finally get your first touch in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Man, it was everything and everything I've done to wait

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Speaker 4: that whole year and then to go out the proof

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Speaker 4: that I belong man so and improved with myself that

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Speaker 4: I was capable of, you know, making that jump to

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Speaker 4: the next level. So for me to go out there

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Speaker 4: and showcase my tongue that to the world meant everything

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Speaker 4: to me. And as run as you can tell that,

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Speaker 4: it was running hard and you know, doing I had

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Speaker 4: to do. So I'm just thanking God that I was

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Speaker 4: able to go out there and be able to showcase

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Speaker 4: my tongue in this year.

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Speaker 7: Now, do you do you need to remind Grub every

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Speaker 7: once in a while that you also are fantastic coming

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Speaker 7: out of the backfield and that they got to get

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Speaker 7: you out in open space.

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Speaker 4: Good no, good, no, man, I'm pretty sure he knows

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Speaker 4: that I got hands, man, But the other guys definitely

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Speaker 4: can catch that ball well too. Out the bett Shit.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kenny, I was I was hot for you because

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Speaker 2: your your real first touch got called back for a

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Speaker 2: penalty and I saw that go there, like man, give

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Speaker 2: them the ball again.

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad. I'm glad they fed you, man, But

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Speaker 3: how close? How close? Is this running game to popping off?

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Speaker 2: Because Paul Moore and I we watch a lot of film, man,

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Speaker 2: probably not as much as you guys, but we're texting

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Speaker 2: each other at ten o'clock. I got to tell my wife,

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Speaker 2: this's the homie, don't worry about it. And and it

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Speaker 2: looks like you guys are so close to popping one.

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Speaker 4: No, definitely definitely man in each and other week. Man,

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Speaker 4: that's that's something that we buy into. Man, We take

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Speaker 4: that serious in the run game, and we definitely breed

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Speaker 4: and want guys to know that that's what we're come

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Speaker 4: to do. No matter if we home or wait coming

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Speaker 4: to guy's house, we're gonna be able to run the ball. Man.

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Speaker 4: Then our line is definitely doing a great job of

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Speaker 4: you know, moving guys and replacing guys and getting to

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Speaker 4: the next level and stuff like that. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: definitely gonna be assumed that we're gonna break a long

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Speaker 4: way and get these numbers back there, right for sure.

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Speaker 7: Well, the transition when you come from college, especially guys

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Speaker 7: who are youngest playing special teams.

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Speaker 5: Did you play much special teams in college? And how

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Speaker 5: locked are you in now on special teams here?

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely locked in for sure, But y'all did not

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Speaker 4: playing on the Curby smart RN. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: play special teams or that you gonna have to start out.

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Speaker 4: That's how you learn and earn and trust and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. So definitely play special teams to my senior year,

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Speaker 4: but definitely locked in right now. That's definitely my role.

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Speaker 4: I know, my role like go out there each and

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Speaker 4: never wea to you know, give everything I got out there.

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Speaker 4: The secial team. Just a brain and energy, especially for

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Speaker 4: the offense to go out there and you know, put

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Speaker 4: a drive together. Our defense definitely, you know, put them

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Speaker 4: a position the out there. Definitely at home, light up

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Speaker 4: the stands. So I'll buy into that, you know, every week.

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Speaker 4: So I definitely take full advantage of my opportunities on

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Speaker 4: special teams though because they are limited.

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Speaker 3: We're here with our running back. Kenny McIntosh. Man, speaking

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Speaker 3: of Georgia the Bulldogs, you're keeping up with your squad, man,

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Speaker 3: what you think of them this year?

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Speaker 4: Man? Of course I'm keeping up guys, man, But they're

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Speaker 4: doing anything. Man. Speaking of the running game, damn proud

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Speaker 4: to see that come alive versus Texas and the run game.

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Speaker 4: But man got floated. This week is gonna be a

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Speaker 4: big week, rival week. So I'm surprised and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be locked in and you know see what has in

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Speaker 4: this week for sure? Man?

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Speaker 2: What is it about running backs out of Georgia? You

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Speaker 2: guys have put some out over the past what five six,

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Speaker 2: seven years?

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Speaker 4: Man? Is it? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Talk about just the run game? Is it the type

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Speaker 3: of player they recruit that? Is that what they're looking for?

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Speaker 2: Because uh, there's some ballers that come out of Georgia

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Speaker 2: at the RP position.

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Speaker 4: Nah, definitely it's rb U at u g a man.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I don't know what it is though, But

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Speaker 4: it's just something about the old line out there. Man.

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Speaker 4: They donna always have an old line that's gonna give

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Speaker 4: it a have fun to running back. It's like the

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Speaker 4: you know, every running beast dream the man to run

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Speaker 4: behind the line, off the line like Georgia. So and

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Speaker 4: just the way they developed them there and even prepare

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Speaker 4: the guys that they do at the program. It's like

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Speaker 4: a win win going to Georgia. So you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying speaking of the Tuton National Championship, it's a win.

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Speaker 7: Warnings you can't live I know, you you mentioned U

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Speaker 7: Floridas your your rival. Uh in the big game. I

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Speaker 7: mean they say the biggest outdoor party out there. But wait,

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Speaker 7: but when you're playing Alabama, what what I mean? What

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Speaker 7: game are the fans more fired up for?

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Speaker 4: Definitely Alabamba man, definitely a little bit morely man because

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Speaker 4: that's that's It's not like a traditional rival or generational rival,

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Speaker 4: but that's like the rival man everybody wants to get.

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Speaker 4: Once you get a chance to play those guys, now

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Speaker 4: we want to go out there to show them that

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Speaker 4: we run the SEC or you know, we the top

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Speaker 4: dollars in the SEC. Because everybody knows if this is

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Speaker 4: Mike Georgia's mother is not opposite, you know, vice versas

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Speaker 4: because you know those are the you know, girl, man

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Speaker 4: play football and that's what you're definitely gonna have to

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Speaker 4: run the ball and you're either gonna have to start

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Speaker 4: to run the ball. That's where it's most physical, is

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Speaker 4: you know, doing those games. That's where the the you know,

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Speaker 4: the man separate from boys. So that's why you know,

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Speaker 4: when you when you win that game, you know you

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Speaker 4: feel like run SEC. You know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 4: you know, once you're on the top of the STEC

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Speaker 4: because everybody know that's the top division, so you want

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Speaker 4: to be there.

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Speaker 5: It's a great person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Can you be friends with any of your Alabama teammates.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Man, I gotta speak out that even left

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Speaker 4: Georgia to win over there. Man, so yeah, of course

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Speaker 4: them with God. But you know it's our love. Once

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Speaker 4: you get on that once you step in that field, though,

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Speaker 4: you know we gotta win out. You know, we definitely

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Speaker 4: tried that for sure.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kenny, when I was in when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: all U football players thought that we could hoop. All

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Speaker 2: the hoopers thought they can play football. But if you

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Speaker 2: ain't playing football, what sport.

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Speaker 3: Are you playing?

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely playing basketball. But man, I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I'm full full court. Friends, Man, I'm doing man, we

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Speaker 4: can full all passing the ball. But uh no, definitely

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Speaker 4: playing basketball. I played a little basketball back in high school.

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Speaker 3: Role player.

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Speaker 4: Me and my boys Jay Flowers, Man, they say with me,

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Speaker 4: my boy Josh segment. Now, I had a few guys

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Speaker 4: on the team set basketball.

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Speaker 7: When look, your life is football, I get it, it's

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Speaker 7: it's twenty four to seven. But when you're away from

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Speaker 7: the VMACU. What takes up most of your free time?

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Speaker 5: Are you you a gamer?

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Speaker 4: I like to call myself a game but I don't

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Speaker 4: really be on the game as much as you know,

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Speaker 4: as a lot of guys do. But I play a

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Speaker 4: little call of duty. But I'm more I like shows

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Speaker 4: and movies, so I'll be telling me watch the shows,

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Speaker 4: the movies something like that.

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Speaker 5: All right, give us give me a good show. You're

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Speaker 5: watching right now?

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Speaker 4: I said, I just finished Out of Banks, man. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm a little late, but I just got caught on

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Speaker 4: and finished the new episode season. I just came out.

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Speaker 4: But Out of Banks is a good one though, I

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Speaker 4: just finished.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I like I'm watching out Last right now. I like

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Speaker 3: the survival type stuff.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think as humans we're softest. Heck, our ancestors were

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Speaker 2: so strong. We're sending air conditioning room right now.

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Speaker 3: I like, uh, I like those types of stuff.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go check it out. I gotta go see

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Speaker 4: what it's checking, right, but I go for it.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I like power them definitely. Talk show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Hey, well Kenny man, appreciate you taking

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Speaker 2: your time and hand out that candy and you have

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Speaker 2: a good night.

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Speaker 3: Man, good luck this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Sciate it I'll take you all right, man, it's.

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Speaker 3: Kenny macattosh Man fun interview right there.

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Speaker 2: Come join us here on a Hawks Live at Belvy

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Speaker 2: Square Center Court where you have a chance to win

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Speaker 3: On Michael Bumpas. This is Paul Moyer every Thursday at.

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Speaker 2: Seven o'clock right here in Sattle Sport seven ten. We'll

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Speaker 2: be here at Belvy Square, Central Court.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We've had great interviews already.

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Speaker 2: Kevon Wallace came up here represented Harry Potter with his family.

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Speaker 2: Kenny macintosh on the phone on a Thursday ninth and

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Speaker 2: it says Halloween kids are everywhere, go to sleep. It's

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Speaker 2: too late if my kids are listening, go to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Actually seven forty five, they got like forty five more

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Speaker 2: minutes then they gotta go to bed.

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Speaker 5: They're not still trick or treating.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I looked my son up his location. He's

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Speaker 2: hitting the block. He's hitting the block. I got he's fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Man, I gotta watch that, dude. I gotta watch that dude,

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Speaker 3: watch fifty.

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Speaker 2: But let's talk about these Rams, man, now, let's not

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Speaker 2: it's a The NC West is so weird, man. At

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Speaker 2: one point, I was ready to write off the Cardinals,

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Speaker 2: and then they string some winds together. At one point,

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Speaker 2: I'm never writing up the Niners. I just felt like

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Speaker 2: they were banged up. And then the Rams are in

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Speaker 2: an interesting position too. You don't have Cooper Cup or

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Speaker 2: Pooka new core. For a few games.

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Speaker 3: You hear rumors about, oh, Matthew Stafford can get traded. Pookah.

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Speaker 3: Le's you not Pookah, Cooper Cup can be traded, and

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Speaker 3: then they come back and they go off.

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Speaker 2: Pookah has over one hundred yards and a touchdown. You

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Speaker 2: got Cooper Cup with the like five receptions fifty yards

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Speaker 2: and a touchdown. This team is not bad and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at them by the numbers. The numbers will lie

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Speaker 2: to you because this is a different team when these

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Speaker 2: guys are healthy. You're looking at the Rams. Their twentieth

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Speaker 2: overall offense, twenty six when it comes to running the ball,

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Speaker 2: averaging one hundred and one yards per game, fourteenth when

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Speaker 2: it comes to throw on the rock two hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two yards, and they are twenty third when it

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Speaker 2: comes to scoring points twenty point six. But all those

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Speaker 2: numbers are most of them were accumulated without Cooper Cup

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Speaker 2: and Puka Nikua, and they have a really good running

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Speaker 2: back over there, and Kyraen Williams.

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Speaker 3: You look at the film on this team, Moyer, Well

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Speaker 3: what stands out to you?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's hard. Like I said, they've been injured. Statistically,

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Speaker 7: they're not a great team. You know, they're stafford about

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Speaker 7: like Geno touchdown to interception ratio. I think he has

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Speaker 7: seven touchdown many five interceptions. Not great number. They got

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Speaker 7: fourteen sacks on defense, they're given up four point six

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Speaker 7: yards per rush. Defensively, they're only rushing it for three

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Speaker 7: point nine. Just statistically, you go, eh, but man, they

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Speaker 7: are like Deadpool. You can't kill them, man, you cannot.

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Speaker 7: They just keep coming back, and they're been a thorn

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Speaker 7: in our side. You know, there's something about McVeigh, the

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Speaker 7: way he gets his teams ready and the way they

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Speaker 7: game plan.

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Speaker 5: They look. We've we have a different defense. We'll see

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Speaker 5: how that goes.

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Speaker 7: They don't have as good offensive line as we've we've

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Speaker 7: faced three of the last four weeks. I mean, Detroit,

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Speaker 7: San Francisco and Buffalo's offensive line very good. Next actually

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Speaker 7: even the Giants not bad. So it's just they have

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Speaker 7: the players. They have the confidence right now that they

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Speaker 7: can go in and beat anybody. They can lose anybody too, and.

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Speaker 4: We know that.

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Speaker 7: So it's just gonna be a tough game. It's a

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Speaker 7: tough divisional game. Two defenses or two teams that are

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Speaker 7: kind of trying to find themselves right now. So it'll

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Speaker 7: be really interesting and to see what kind of adjustments

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Speaker 7: that coach McDonald has both offensively and defensively this week

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Speaker 7: going into this and do the Rams keep im proved,

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Speaker 7: which I hope they don't.

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Speaker 2: The worst thing about this Rams team right now, the

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Speaker 2: best thing for them, worse for us, is that I

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Speaker 2: feel like they're finding their rhythm. You look at Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 2: all right, he was eight for eight throwing to the

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Speaker 2: right side of the field. Last week, he was twelve

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Speaker 2: for seventeen fo one hundred and fifty seven yards in

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Speaker 2: one touchdown when targeting Cooper Cup and Pooka Nikoua. Also offensively,

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Speaker 2: when I think is gonna give these guys a little

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Speaker 2: bit of trouble is the pre sat snap motion. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna motion a guy. They're gonna send him that way,

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Speaker 2: They're tight end that way. Matthew Stafford's gonna look left,

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Speaker 2: look right, hit you down the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: He is a savvy quarterback who understands this offense. That's

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Speaker 2: a safety back there. When you see all that pre

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Speaker 2: snap motion.

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Speaker 3: What does that do to you?

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Speaker 7: How much it's just window dressing? It really doesn't to me.

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Speaker 7: It moves, you know, your strength to your defense. A

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Speaker 7: lot of times in the running game. It obviously it

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Speaker 7: is a pre snap look for quarterbacks because they get

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Speaker 7: to see, hey, is this man or zone depending on

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Speaker 7: how normally adjust with motion. So I think it helps

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Speaker 7: probably more offensively. You could talk about that defensive I

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Speaker 7: don't care, you know, I know they're gonna motion. I

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Speaker 7: will say this, the game's changed a little bit and

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Speaker 7: the type of motions they do. You're right, you go

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Speaker 7: watch the Seahawks. Seahawks shift motion, so now you shift,

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Speaker 7: you just moved your your alignment. Then they put a

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Speaker 7: motion and they do these weird deep ones, you know,

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Speaker 7: with some fly sweeps and some bubble screen. I mean,

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Speaker 7: so you know, there's the games just you know, it

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Speaker 7: keeps evolving too an a sense. But I don't want

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Speaker 7: to give offensive coordinators too much credit. You guys think

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Speaker 7: it fools defenses, It really doesn't. I think it probably

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Speaker 7: helps you guys more with pre snapbreads.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna push back on that because I.

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Speaker 2: Spoke to Julian Love today, you know, and he says

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Speaker 2: it forces them to have to be on point with

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Speaker 2: their communication, and it forces the offense or it creates

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Speaker 2: a leverage for the offense. So he said that Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 2: because of that motion, it allows them to see leverage

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Speaker 2: and allow to get the football off quicker.

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Speaker 5: So pre snapbreed for your quarterback. I agree.

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Speaker 7: And then the other part that Love he called me earlier,

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Speaker 7: he said, I've just got to say something to make

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Speaker 7: it sound right now.

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Speaker 5: No, look, I might there's a reason why offenses.

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Speaker 4: Do it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's clearly you know, you you have to

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Speaker 7: think at this point. You know a lot of times

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Speaker 7: my gaps changed. Okay who I'm covering, So you know

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Speaker 7: there's reasons to do it. But you know, these guys

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Speaker 7: are professionals. They study a lot of films, so.

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Speaker 5: Not not much. But you know, look, this is an

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Speaker 5: important game obviously. Is it a must win?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 7: Look at that, man, we got some good well Hercules,

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Speaker 7: Hercules just walked up here. It's an important game because

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Speaker 7: you know we're tied for first, Arizona's playing better. We

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Speaker 7: know what San Francisco can do. Didn't think the Rams

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Speaker 7: were going to be that team. There was talk they

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Speaker 7: were going to get rid of Cooper Cup, they were

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Speaker 7: going to trade them. And now I said, they're going

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Speaker 7: Wait a minute, we're tied in the Lost Calumn for

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Speaker 7: first place in the division.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we go for this thing. So big game the Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: I'm more worried about their confidence than their ability to play.

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Speaker 7: And I'm hoping that we get off to a quick start.

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Speaker 7: I think that's important as well for their confidence. We

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Speaker 7: haven't had good quick starts, you know, getting that quick

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Speaker 7: lead and making teams have to chase us. So I

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Speaker 7: think that's that's a big, big factor going into this game.

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Speaker 3: Uh, quick starts.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, because when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the first half, the Hawks are averaging ten point

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Speaker 2: four points.

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Speaker 3: That's twentieth in the league.

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Speaker 2: The last three games are averaging seven point seven points

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Speaker 2: in the first half.

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Speaker 3: That's near the bottom. How do you get off to

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Speaker 3: al kickstart?

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Speaker 2: Because we look looked at the offensive last game.

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Speaker 3: Go three and out three.

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Speaker 2: Now there are a couple a couple of plays where

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Speaker 2: the ball is batted down and Geno's not operating from

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Speaker 2: a clean pocket. It's it's I think it's a tough

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Speaker 2: question to ask, but I guess if you're the OC,

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Speaker 2: how do you get this team off tool quickstart?

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Speaker 7: Well, it can be moralizing too, because you've been watching

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Speaker 7: film all week and of thinking these are our best place.

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Speaker 7: I'm scripting to keep the chains moving along the way. Look,

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Speaker 7: it's frustrating as a coach because you call something and

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Speaker 7: you see it and maybe one guy just doesn't sustain

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Speaker 7: a block, somebody jumps off sides. You know, we're just

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Speaker 7: again coming up to me too many third down tough situations.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I really don't.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can give you a bunch of coach

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Speaker 7: speak out there, but you just got to go out

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Speaker 7: and execute.

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Speaker 5: Because I watched our offensive line and I go, man,

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Speaker 5: it's okay, you know I mean, But then I put

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Speaker 5: on Buffalo and I go, that looks okay, But there's

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Speaker 5: something about the there. I don't want to say.

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Speaker 7: Confidence isn't the right word, and I want to keep

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Speaker 7: using you know, sync o they're syncd out because I'm

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00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: overplaying that word too. But they know each other so

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 7: well on when to stay on that double team, keep

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Speaker 7: pushing through it, and when to release into.

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Speaker 5: That second It's it's like a dance.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: They're just so coordinated. And then I watch us, I go,

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Speaker 5: we got our guys, but it's not as it's just

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it's just just clean.

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Speaker 7: It's just, you know, we're turned maybe a little bit

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Speaker 7: more than we should instead of being square, even on

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Speaker 7: the offensive line at times, not quite getting to that

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Speaker 7: second level to cut the guy off.

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Speaker 5: And so when you look at it, you go, it

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Speaker 5: looks okay. Everybody got their guy, but as a unit,

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Speaker 5: it's just not it's not perfect yet.

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Speaker 2: You know, going into this week, I thought to myself, man,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have a break. Finally, no Aaron Donald on

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Speaker 2: this defensive line. And you've gone through some good defensive lines,

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Speaker 2: starting with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: And then I'll put on the film and I look

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Speaker 3: at this young defensive line.

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Speaker 2: I look at Fisk, I look at Kobe Turner, Bobby Brown, verse,

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Speaker 2: and there's no one on that d line who has

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Speaker 2: more than two years experience. But they play with this

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Speaker 2: energy that that could give this offensive line some trouble.

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Speaker 2: But that's the NFL. Every week, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 2: guys on the other side of the football, and our

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Speaker 2: concern has been just getting the run game going. When

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Speaker 2: you look at the right side of the line, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like Anthony Bradford is going to be the guy

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Speaker 2: at GARB.

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Speaker 3: So maybe he has stepped forward and kind of taken

885
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: that spot.

886
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: You like that.

887
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 5: I think he's improved.

888
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 8: I do.

889
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 7: Look, first of all, he's a strong man. So when

890
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: he got ya, he got ya. Yeah, So I know

891
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 7: it was bad grand but it was on purpose.

892
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 5: I mean, he's strong.

893
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 7: He can move a pile, and we need somebody who

894
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: can move you know, the hard thing for Christian Hanes

895
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 7: right now, he's just going to have to get stronger. Yep,

896
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 7: that's just bottom line. He just he needs probably put

897
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 7: on another ten to fifteen pounds. He's got to work on,

898
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 7: you know, all those incline and pressed type of strength

899
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 7: out there. He's gifted, he moves well. You know, he's

900
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 7: our future. I mean, I think our future is there.

901
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 7: It's just hard to crack a starting lineup Bradford's. He's

902
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 7: a very large man and he's a very strong man,

903
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 7: and they're getting better. I think once we get you know,

904
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: we'll see if we get Fan back and hopefully we

905
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 7: eventually get Abe Lucas back. I mean, that would really

906
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: create some I don't know, maybe people moving around that

907
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 7: offensive line.

908
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: But I'm I used to pooh pooh big Ray Roberts

909
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: when he'd said, you know, offensive line's hard. You got

910
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: to really, you know, be coordinated and on your calls

911
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: and the timing of it. And I'm starting to believe

912
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: what he says there because you go watch our film

913
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: last week and I go, everybody played pretty well, and

914
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 5: then but I go, but as a unit, just again,

915
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 5: it didn't look perfect. And I went and watched Buffalo,

916
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: and I said, that's what it needs to look at,

917
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: just the timing of everything.

918
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: Buffalo and the Niners.

919
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: I watched those offensive lines work this year and it's clean,

920
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: and they're doing the dance that you're talking about, and

921
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: they're on the same page, staying in their boxes.

922
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: They're a little two steps.

923
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's gonna take a reps, right,

924
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: reps and time in the same group out there consistently

925
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: for this old line to get going. Maybe it happens

926
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: this week. All right, more to do. When we come back,

927
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Speaker 2: we'll go around the NFL. That is next right here

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Speaker 2: on Hawk's Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 1: If you're your hosts, Michael Bumpas and.

934
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, welcome back to Hawk's Live every Thursday at

935
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Speaker 2: seven o'clock right here on Seattle Sports and Michael Bumpas

936
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: with Paul Moya, we're gonna go around the NFL. But

937
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: before we do, let me tell you make sure you

938
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Speaker 2: get out to Bellvy Collection Dining District.

939
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: So many great restaurants to choose from. Today. We had

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Speaker 3: our pre show meal at Dukes. Not gonna lie ULDI

941
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: I don't eat seafood.

942
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 5: They got burgers there.

943
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: I had chicken tenders at the Little Kid's meal and

944
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: they were it was good.

945
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: They have a great cod taco.

946
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Speaker 3: That's what That's what NASA had.

947
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: I I'm not a normally, I don't like fish tacos.

948
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Speaker 7: I like tacos. Their cod tacos are the best I've

949
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 7: ever had. And they're not paying me to say that.

950
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: Really, no, there is.

951
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 7: It's it's remarkable. It's a meal too. Now, it's not

952
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 7: like one of those little street tacos.

953
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: That's a big bulls is a it's two big boys.

954
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing.

955
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: If they are paying you under the table, I need

956
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: to go talk to Duke's okay, because that's not that's

957
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: not right.

958
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: Well, I can't tell my that's not right.

959
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: Heursday night football is The New York Jets are of

960
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: fourteen to ten. Aaron Rodgers eighteen for twenty eight, one

961
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: forty eight and two touchdowns, Breeze Hall twelve carries for

962
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: fifty five. Joe Mixon on the other side twenty four

963
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: carries for one oh six.

964
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 4: C J.

965
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Strout Man eight for nineteen one sixty five. He's missing

966
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: his dogs man. Stefan Diggs is out for the season.

967
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: Nico Collins is out.

968
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: He made shacks seven times.

969
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Man, it's tough over there. And uh, you know what,

970
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: I was talking to our producer before the show. We

971
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about Hassan Radick and

972
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: him not reporting to play for the Jets. Now he's

973
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: playing and nobody's talking about him. I think we should

974
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: give him, I guess a little bit of recognition. What

975
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: has he done anything today with his numbers over there?

976
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean we were on his head, like

977
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: him a job, and I don't see anything. So I

978
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: tried to give you some lef as on.

979
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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what the Jets are up, what

980
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: they should be up, twenty one to ten.

981
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 7: One of the guys is he's scoring a touchdown, drops

982
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 7: the ball like he thinks she's in the end zone.

983
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 5: We've seen way too many times.

984
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 7: But I'll bet you what Duke pays me that the

985
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 7: Jets find a way to lose this game. And they're

986
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: up fourteen to ten with four minutes left, and they

987
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Speaker 7: have the ball.

988
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: Come on, Jets, pull through. I don't. I don't necessarily

989
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers maybe as a person, but I appreciate

990
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: him as a football player. I want to see him

991
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: win some games.

992
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: Man.

993
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: I hate to see him go out like this. He's

994
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: my childhood, childhood.

995
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: Like just for the last twenty years, it feels like

996
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: I've been watching him play, So I want to.

997
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: See him do his thing.

998
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's showing his age.

999
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady maybe a few weeks ago, said that colleges

1000
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: are no longer programs their teams and organizations. He said,

1001
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: they're not developing quarterbacks anymore. Then you get to the NFL.

1002
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: If you are a quarterback and you don't have.

1003
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: Instant success, teams will move along from you.

1004
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: That's why I love Pat Mahomes sitting for a little

1005
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: bit Mari Naden and learning the game. Aaron Rodgers did it,

1006
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: Jordan Love has done it and he's having success. Anthony

1007
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: Richison was benched, and I'm in this group chat with

1008
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: my family members and everyone's saying, how.

1009
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: Are they giving up on him?

1010
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: So quickly I said, I wouldn't necessarily say they're giving

1011
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: up on him. It's completing forty four percent of his pastes.

1012
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: I think maybe sitting down and watching a professional like

1013
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco operate and be him, we'll teach him a

1014
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: thing or two about the quarterback position.

1015
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: What do you feel about that situation.

1016
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 7: I think it's tough. Look, you complete forty four of

1017
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 7: your passes. I don't care who you are.

1018
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 5: You got to be betted. I mean, you've got to perform.

1019
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: And the problem is you lose the team. The team knows.

1020
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1021
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 7: Way back when when I was coaching, we did not

1022
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Speaker 7: have a quarterback, and it was we had a really

1023
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 7: good defense. I thought we had some players around us,

1024
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 7: but we could not win. We didn't have We had

1025
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 7: a quarterback that we had no chance to win with.

1026
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 7: And we finally put in a guy named Stan Gelball,

1027
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 7: who's a journeyman quarterback, but at least it looked like

1028
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 7: he was a professional, and we won a couple of

1029
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 7: games at least with him.

1030
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Speaker 5: That's what happened.

1031
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 7: You'll lose a team because you have another fifty two

1032
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 7: guys that are saying, hey, I'm not here.

1033
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 5: To watch you develop him. I'm here to win today.

1034
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 7: And so when you realize that that guy can, we're

1035
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 7: not going to win with him right now, We've got

1036
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 7: to develop him. He's obviously got all kinds of skill.

1037
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 7: He could throw the ball country mile, you know, he

1038
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 7: could run like you know what. But there's more to

1039
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 7: that being a quarterback.

1040
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: So, and I think Tom Brady's right about college because

1041
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 5: here's why college is now a free agency every year.

1042
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: Yep.

1043
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: So you're looking to replace your quarterback, even if he's

1044
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: a Heisman Trophy winner every single year, if you think

1045
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: you can replace him with someone better.

1046
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 7: In the NFL, I got a five year contract. You're

1047
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 7: a rookie drafted early. You got a five year contract.

1048
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 7: Almost all of that is guaranteed. So why waste him

1049
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 7: the first couple of years? Likely they did the Bryce

1050
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 7: Young and what they did probably to Richardson. So I

1051
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 7: don't think they gave up them. They haven't given up

1052
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 7: on him only his second year. They got to take

1053
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 7: a step back.

1054
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 5: Let him learn. So that was my long winded answer

1055
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 5: to your question.

1056
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Final straw for me was I played quarterback in high school.

1057
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Were you good a running quarterback?

1058
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 5: I threw?

1059
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: I threw for about a couple of g's and ran

1060
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: for about a GM myself.

1061
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: Right, I never tapped out of a football game at

1062
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. As a receiver, you get tired, you're

1063
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: running fifty yards down the field, you need a play,

1064
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: you're bringing your back up. I have never seen a

1065
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: quarterback tap out because he was tired. I mean that

1066
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: move by Anthony Rigson, to me, just showed that he's

1067
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: not quite sure how to be a professional in this league.

1068
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 7: I agree, because there's been some quarterbacks who have been bad.

1069
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 7: Bad quarterback. I'll give it a go on Tim Tebow.

1070
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Speaker 7: Tim Tebow threw fifty percent of his.

1071
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 5: Passes, but Tim, but that team would follow Tim Tebow

1072
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 5: because they knew.

1073
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 7: He would put his He'd put his life on the

1074
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 7: line if he had to. And as a quarterback, you

1075
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 7: have to lead. That's more important than the numbers, you know.

1076
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 7: I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks in the path. I mean,

1077
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 7: there's was actually an Indian applis for a while, and

1078
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 7: I want to say the Raiders. Jeff George incredible arm,

1079
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 7: but man, just a space cadet as a leader. Man,

1080
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 7: just Jeff George was Yeah, really, I mean he just

1081
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 7: you know, he did things that were just I don't

1082
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 7: I mean, he just for his arm. Yeah, he should

1083
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 7: have been in the league for a long time winning

1084
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 7: football games. Then he was just a guy that they

1085
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 7: didn't win. So yeah, so leadership is important. I think

1086
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 7: that was probably the last straw of all. Are you

1087
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 7: completing forty four percent of your passes and you're not

1088
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 7: leading now?

1089
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Russell Wilson, Yeah, this is a man. I'm happy

1090
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: for Russell.

1091
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: Honestly.

1092
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone on air the other day

1093
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: and they said, well, Russell didn't didn't play well last year.

1094
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: I go, well, look at his numbers. He actually played

1095
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: pretty good.

1096
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: You take us twenty six and eight from Gino this

1097
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: year right now, and he's got a chance over there.

1098
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: And the way Tomlin played this whole situation I think

1099
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: was masterful.

1100
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: He never committed to justin fields. He said Russell Wilson.

1101
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: At the pole position during the training camp, and as

1102
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: soon as Russell was ready to go, he went out

1103
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: and put him out there. And I think his OC

1104
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: explained to him and Tomlin, obviously being the coach he is,

1105
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: probably saw it.

1106
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 3: Look, the playbook is open with Russell Wilson.

1107
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: He has a good receiver over there, decent running game,

1108
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: the defense is looking good.

1109
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the Steelers six and two?

1110
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: Right now.

1111
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 5: Well, Tomlin is one of the great coaches of all time,

1112
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 5: and the man's.

1113
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: Never had a losing record seventeen years.

1114
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

1115
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 7: I mean, Pittsburgh's organization only to have three head coaches,

1116
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 7: I mean, come on, I mean there's something to that too,

1117
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 7: the way they'd run an organization. But Tomlin reads people.

1118
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 7: I mean, he is a master at he's a master motivator.

1119
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 7: And he would never put Russell Wilson in just to

1120
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 7: put him in.

1121
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: That's not his MM. So he saw it and he

1122
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 5: convinced Russell, there's a way for you to win. You

1123
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: used to do it.

1124
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 7: I've watched you. We're going back to that. We're going

1125
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 7: to go to your strengths, and you don't get to

1126
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 7: dictate what that was. You know, Look, Sean Payton should

1127
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 7: have done what Tomlin did. She just said, you know what,

1128
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 7: we actually got a guy here that is really good

1129
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 7: at this. He just said, no, you got to fit

1130
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 7: into my system rather than me build around you. So look,

1131
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 7: they're great defense, they can run the football, and they

1132
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 7: got a quarterback that knows how to win that way.

1133
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: I love it.

1134
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 7: Look, you know, Russell is going to be in the

1135
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 7: Ring of Honor someday. I mean, he's going to be

1136
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 7: back here and everybody should be happy. What he did

1137
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 7: for him, the way he left it, that's stung, but

1138
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 7: he's been humbled.

1139
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 5: And I hope he has great success.

1140
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: Yep.

1141
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: All right, that was around the NFL. Will we come back.

1142
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: We'll go inside the film room. We're break down Josh

1143
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: Job's pick. We also have Geno Smith gen tripped up

1144
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: on fourth down and also an interception.

1145
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: All that is next right here on Hawk's Line.

1146
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

1147
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1149
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live.

1150
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: Oh, Michael Bumpus sitting here with Paul Moyer looking at

1151
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: the greatest fans in all of the land.

1152
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: Got a new trigger treader back there, We have a

1153
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: sitting in front of us. What's the little man back there?

1154
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: What is little man? Standing up? Little man?

1155
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 4: What you got? What you got?

1156
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: My eyes? Oh no, it was a little fish.

1157
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's flounder. No, not flounder. Flounder.

1158
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: We got flounder. We got a Cheetos bag over there, Cheetos.

1159
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: We got incredible haulk here. We got an evil nun

1160
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: over there. Don't look at me too hard, and we

1161
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: have some nightmares. It's a it's definitely Halloween in this piece, man,

1162
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: and it was.

1163
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: It was.

1164
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: It was Halloween on on Sunday too. It was scary.

1165
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 3: It was scary last Sunday.

1166
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 8: Man.

1167
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: But we're gonna go inside the film room, gonna break

1168
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: down three plays. But the first play is actually a

1169
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: positive and I love to see this man. Josh Joe

1170
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: picks off Josh Allen for his first interception of the year.

1171
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: In Josh Joe's first career interception from his own thirty.

1172
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 8: Seven has Johnson decide him in the backfield wide splip

1173
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 8: to the far side. An't an intercepted pick up. It's

1174
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 8: Jobe goes the hell away down to the thirty twenty five.

1175
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: Fifteen ten, knocking.

1176
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 5: Golf his his feet.

1177
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: Outside the five.

1178
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 8: Josh Allen costs it up for the first time this season.

1179
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 8: He tries to throw a slam right side and Josh

1180
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 8: job jumps it and the youngster takes it all the

1181
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 8: way down inside the five, and the Seahawks are set

1182
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 8: up to take a lead here in this second quarter.

1183
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 8: We thought it was gonna happen. It's the first career

1184
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 8: interception for the job and the first one thrown this

1185
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 8: year by Allen.

1186
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: Did he say for the job?

1187
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: For the job?

1188
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: Raise man raids in his bag this year. He's in

1189
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: his bag every year, but Ray's been saying some stuff

1190
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: this year. What you see, moy just a.

1191
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 7: Great job by him. I mean he's up and bumping.

1192
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 7: It's third and short. They're gonna run a slant route

1193
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 7: on this. I think it's thirty short maybe yeah, I

1194
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 7: think it's thirty.

1195
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 5: Three on this play. He does a really good job.

1196
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 7: The receiver slips a little coming when he used to

1197
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: make his break, but Josh Jobes does a really good

1198
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 7: job of putting You teach this, you put your.

1199
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: Hand in this one.

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 7: It's his inside hand right into the receiver's chest. Just

1201
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 7: to slow that down and reclear your hips back and

1202
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 7: he ran the route for him.

1203
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: Good interception. I wish he had kept his feet. And

1204
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 5: these are one of those.

1205
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 7: Things again when you're at practice, just another one practice,

1206
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 7: running through the end zone, running through everybody. He sees

1207
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 7: the crowd and he starts to duck down to protect

1208
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 7: the ball. I would just like to see him to

1209
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 7: protect the ball but still run through that. Hey, they're

1210
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 7: gonna have to cut my legs out not to score

1211
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 7: because he gets all the way down to the three

1212
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 7: yard line, and if he had just got one more

1213
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 7: step on that, you know, it's a touchdown. Not that

1214
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 7: that's a negative, it's just it could It was a

1215
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 7: great play. He could have been a great great play

1216
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 7: because we were down seven to three at the time. Yeah,

1217
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 7: I mean we go up ten to three, We're probably

1218
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 7: having a different conversation right now.

1219
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: I love that this undrafted free agent Obama by Philadelphia

1220
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: within a twenty twenty two I believe got his first

1221
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: interception off of Josh Allen while covering Amari Cooper. You

1222
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: know this, this is he gotta frame this one. This

1223
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: was a big one for two to nine, and he

1224
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: was close to making some plays last week. The week

1225
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: prior to this, remember there was a ball that was

1226
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: thrown to him. Was really paying attention and hits his arm.

1227
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: He could have intercepted the football. But this was a

1228
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: big play. The defense two weeks in a row have

1229
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: made some big plays late in the game when you

1230
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: really needed it. I'm gonna critique a Mark Cooper a

1231
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: little bit I'm orry it's too good of a receiver

1232
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: to runner route like this. He didn't attack that inside

1233
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: leverage at all. He just felt that, look, I can

1234
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: give this young cornering outside kind of released look, not

1235
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: have to force to get inside, and he's.

1236
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: Gonna bite on everything.

1237
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: And Josh did a good job of being common that

1238
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: situation and not taking the bait. So good for Josh Man.

1239
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy for this guy. We spoke to him on

1240
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Hawk's Live. Good young man. That guy is all right

1241
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 2: this next play all right. Now we're back to scared

1242
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: ready for this.

1243
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: Geno Smith gets tripped up on fourth down and it's

1244
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 3: all bad.

1245
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 8: In fact, he wings on the right side. Now he's

1246
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 8: going to go in motion to the left side. Geno

1247
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 8: trips and falls on fourth down. I mean, you can't

1248
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 8: make this stuff up. His foot got tangled up, I

1249
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 8: think with his guard as he was trying to pull

1250
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 8: out from under center, and he tripped and fell on

1251
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 8: fourth down.

1252
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: The ball is going to go over to the bills.

1253
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, we're gonna take a break.

1254
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.

1255
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 7: You know why it's Oh my goodness, this is a touchdown, yep,

1256
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 7: I mean it is a touch down. They are not covered.

1257
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 7: They sell out. Their whole team sells out on this play.

1258
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 7: They are so fooled on this play. It's almost comical.

1259
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 7: I mean, go and look at the whole linebacker safeties.

1260
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 7: We run a we pull our right guard on this.

1261
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 7: We were running to the left with an eye formation.

1262
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 7: It's going to be a play action bootleg. The tight

1263
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 7: end to our left side, is it Farrell? I think

1264
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 7: it's uh, he's what. Nobody covers him the matterick nobody

1265
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 7: covers anybody. If he can get the ball off, it's

1266
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 7: a it's an easy touchdown. But you know, center steps

1267
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 7: back just a little catches the toe of Gino. Gino

1268
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 7: trips are pulling guard trips over Gino. You know it

1269
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 7: looks like uh looks looks like a bad play.

1270
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 5: But it would have been a touchdown if we just

1271
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: didn't get that little trip on Gino.

1272
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: Just so unfortunate.

1273
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: Nice seeing excuse me, nice seeing oliw with Timmy? Is

1274
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: that olowod Timmy in there at that tight end position.

1275
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: Find a way to get him on on the football field.

1276
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: You got Russell in the backfield as you're tight end.

1277
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: The play design is nice. It is right there and

1278
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: like you mentioned everyone executed. It's just unfortunate. You will

1279
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: not see Gino get stepped on and fall like this

1280
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: again this year. Sometimes it is just not your dame,

1281
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: And that's all I chalk this up to. Connor Williams

1282
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: does a good job. He does a get blown off

1283
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: the football. He's stout and he's just the timing is

1284
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: all messed up, man. So unfortunate play for the Hawks

1285
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: right there. Those are the plays that you you have

1286
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: nightmares about because you realized if you just put these

1287
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: points on the board, you get seven on the board

1288
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: the game.

1289
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 3: This feels different and you're in the fight.

1290
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 7: It's fourteen to to seven if we score twice from

1291
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 7: the two yard line.

1292
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: All right.

1293
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: This next play, Geno Smith is intercepted trying to find

1294
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: ken Walker.

1295
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 8: At the Buffalo forty.

1296
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 5: Here comes the blitz again.

1297
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: Gino wants to get rid of it.

1298
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 8: He does screen pass and it's interceptor Baul was tipped

1299
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 8: as Gino was trying to set up the screen pass

1300
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 8: right side, and he threw it right to one of

1301
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 8: the defenders, and I believe that was Austin Johnson's.

1302
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: Good gracious.

1303
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: This is right here, Moyer. Again, unfortunate. I think, if

1304
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: you're Geno, you got to try to see this and

1305
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: throw it in the dirt. Nine to eight is lined

1306
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: up over who is that our right guard? And he

1307
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: doesn't bite. I think it's because of the release of

1308
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: our guard. It's not smooth enough. When you are selling

1309
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: these screens, you're anticipating the defensive line just being aggressive

1310
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: and going downhill.

1311
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: There's an art to it.

1312
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: You want to kind of block him and then give

1313
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: him the cleanest release he's ever seen in his life.

1314
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: So then he just gets downhill. This situation right there,

1315
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: I believe it's Brafford. He doesn't give him that clean

1316
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: release and he kind of holds him up, and that

1317
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: split second of holding them up allows him to get

1318
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: his eyes in the backfield and say, hold on somethings up.

1319
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: Hey, what does he do?

1320
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: He finds the running back, you know, Smith, try to

1321
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: make a play, just not able to do it. You

1322
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: get your hands up, the balls tipped a little bit

1323
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: and nine to A finds it and that's all she wrote.

1324
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of coaching points on this,

1325
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 7: and you're right. I mean, it's just I don't love

1326
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 7: the design of it, because this has to be a

1327
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 7: quick release. The way we're blocking this, you got somebody

1328
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 7: coming off the edge. It's Scott Free, so this is

1329
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 7: gonna be a quick screen on that. You gotta let that.

1330
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 7: But defensive end get either really high and why and

1331
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 7: push him by, or you're gonna have to cut him

1332
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 7: and get his hands down. I think the easiest, simplest

1333
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 7: coaching point on Essa's abort because you just throw this

1334
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 7: one into the ground.

1335
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 5: And I think this was one gino. Yep, you know.

1336
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 5: It's just too crowded.

1337
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 8: You know what.

1338
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: It reminds me of. Remind me of Super Bowl twenty

1339
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 5: fourteen where the play I get the call. I just

1340
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: don't like it in that area where you run a

1341
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 5: slant where there's potential tip balls. I want to get

1342
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 5: out and see it. Same thing. It's just too crowded.

1343
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 5: Don't throw that one because the risk reward's not worth it.

1344
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: I got you, all right, man. Those were the three

1345
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: plays were breaking down.

1346
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: Hopefully next week after a w there'll be some more

1347
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: exciting plays or breakdown and we can.

1348
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 9: You know what, No, No, I'm not doing it next week.

1349
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 9: You're not because bye week we won't be here. You're right,

1350
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 9: But the week after the week after. I'm gonna show

1351
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 9: up anyway. I'll just meet me here, you see here

1352
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 9: and look at each other and we'll do that. All right,

1353
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 9: all right, when we come back, time to talk that talk.

1354
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 9: We're gonna break down some some scenarios. Moy's gonna tell

1355
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 9: me he's right. I'll tell me. I'll tell him he's wrong,

1356
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 9: and you guys will side with me. That is next

1357
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 9: right here on Hawk's lot.

1358
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpis and

1359
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

1360
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live. It's time to talk that talk.

1361
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna throw some scenarios out there and we're gonna

1362
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: debate him a little bit.

1363
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: Paul's gonna say he's right or that COMMONI is right.

1364
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: I'll say if it's right, I'll say if it's wrong,

1365
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: and let's go back and forth.

1366
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: I'll start to save Paul. Here's the first one.

1367
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: The Seahawks will hold the Rams to under one hundred

1368
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: and fifty rushing yards.

1369
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 3: That hasn't happened since week four. Moyer, it's been a while.

1370
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 5: Defensively, I'm not gonna say I'm right. I'm just gonna

1371
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 5: make a point, Okay, that will you'll do mine?

1372
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1373
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, so Mama told me not to assume anything.

1374
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 5: First of all, I do believe that will happen, because

1375
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty yards a lot, and you've got

1376
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 5: Cooper cup back, and they're gonna feature the pass a

1377
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 5: little bit more. They're gonna try to run.

1378
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 7: But the Rams unlike Detroit, unlike San Francisco, and unlike.

1379
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: The Bill's Bill.

1380
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 5: That's bad.

1381
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: I did that today.

1382
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 5: Can you edit that out somehow? The Bill?

1383
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 7: They can run the ball with really good offensive lines.

1384
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 7: They run for one hundred and fifty.

1385
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 5: Man, we've got some we've got some serious issues.

1386
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 7: So I think we make the corrections by going back

1387
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 7: to just more basic fundamental football, focusing on that. You know,

1388
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 7: we're gonna have to play a little bit of you know,

1389
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: two shales. Some man on cupping them. But I just

1390
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 7: don't see the Rams strong enough to run for one hundred.

1391
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 4: And fifty yards.

1392
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in energy and putting a certain

1393
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: type of energy to the universe, and the universe will

1394
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: bring it back to you. So I'm gonna go out

1395
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: there and say, nah, they ain't running for one fifty

1396
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: because I want to put some good energy out there

1397
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: and take care of this defensive line, take care of

1398
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: the box.

1399
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: I think they are getting better. I'm with you.

1400
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 2: You talked about how things are just a little bit off,

1401
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: and in football, if things are just a little off,

1402
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 2: it can create some big plays and exposive plays, and

1403
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: I think they're going to correct some things. I also

1404
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: think that Mike McDonald has to do a great job

1405
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: of coaching everybody, and.

1406
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: That's a tough thing for him to do.

1407
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: He is teaching everybody his defense at this point. I'm

1408
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: sure coaches have questions, players have questions. But the more

1409
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: you fail, the more you learn. So it's been a

1410
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: while since you held a team to one hundred and

1411
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: fifty yards or less, or under one hundred fifty yards.

1412
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 3: This will be the week.

1413
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: Even though Calvin Williams is a good ball player, the

1414
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: young man out of order Dame has has really stepped

1415
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: up and done some things this year.

1416
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 3: But it's going down. Man, It's not gonna happen under

1417
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 3: one fifty.

1418
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 5: I like it, unlike my how you're agreeing with me

1419
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 5: because you just want peace and harmony.

1420
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: That's how I've been married fifteen years.

1421
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna do you this one. Trey Brown

1422
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: now has true competition with Pritchett and Joke.

1423
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: Trey Brown does not have an interception this year, Job does.

1424
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: I think Pritchett is in the mix, but I think

1425
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 2: the real competition is between Job and Trey Brown.

1426
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: And that's the tough thing.

1427
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: Every opportunity I got in football is because someone got

1428
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: hurt or someone wasn't doing their job and they say,

1429
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: all right, man, go ahead and see what you can do,

1430
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 2: and you take advantage.

1431
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 3: Of that situation. That's what Josh Job did.

1432
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: He did something that only Woollen has done this year

1433
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: and Julian Love, which is trade to turnover through the air,

1434
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: intercepting the football. You have to let him fight for

1435
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: this job. So I think he does that true competition.

1436
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 2: I think Trey Brown has the upper hand because they

1437
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: probably trust him more.

1438
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: He's got more snaps with his team. He was getting

1439
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: playing time for reason.

1440
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: But when a backup gets on that football field and

1441
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: makes a play, you might be congratulating them, but in

1442
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: the back of your mind, you're like, I gotta get

1443
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: to work.

1444
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1445
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 7: I think this competition is different. I think the competition

1446
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 7: is there, and what I mean by that is there.

1447
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 7: There's times when they say there's competition, but you can

1448
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 7: be a starter and have a bad game and still

1449
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 7: start right.

1450
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 5: I think Trey Brown's at that point.

1451
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 7: No, He's just he it's his job if he plays

1452
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 7: to his ability, because he's played good football.

1453
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 5: He's only had really one bad game and that was

1454
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 5: it was a giant game.

1455
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 7: He's played good football. He plays to his ability. Trey

1456
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 7: Brown's that's your job. But you don't get to rest

1457
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 7: on your laurels anymore. You know, you've got to go

1458
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 7: out and play good football. Because Pritchett has shown he's

1459
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 7: played well. Certainly Job has played well also, but you

1460
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 7: know they've also had their moments.

1461
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: Do you like more Joe's.

1462
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 7: They're different kind of players. It's funny that there was

1463
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 7: a big play in the game last week. Job didn't slip.

1464
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 7: He was in the guy's hip pocket. He might have

1465
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 7: ended up being a big play, like twenty yards past

1466
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 7: him because he fell, but the way he mirrored the

1467
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 7: route told me something. I think they're just different players.

1468
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 7: I think Job gets the football part. You know, he's

1469
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 7: a more veteran guy. He's played at a top level

1470
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 7: for a long time and so.

1471
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 5: It's pretty too at obviously Auburn, but Job played at Alabama.

1472
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I just think the coaching on that he

1473
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 5: just gets football.

1474
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 7: Like that interception he got, he opened up, I mean

1475
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 7: he opened up on that slant route, but he immediately

1476
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 7: popped his hand in that chest and which by doing that,

1477
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 7: he then could push himself back to clear his hips

1478
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 7: to run back down the line of screamage for that interception. Man,

1479
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 7: that's experience, that's just knowing how to play football.

1480
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: So they're they're different. I think Job though, is shown

1481
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 5: that he's playing better football right now.

1482
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting. Competition is good though, Yeah, very good.

1483
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: I think it's good. Especially in that room. Is all right,

1484
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go to DK Metcalf. DK Metcalf is

1485
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: more important to this offense than people think.

1486
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 5: Well, I'm one of those who would agree with that,

1487
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 5: because last week.

1488
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 7: I was hopeful that Gino would say, Okay, I don't

1489
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 7: have to force it for one play, we don't have

1490
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 7: to design so many plays. I'm just gonna go do

1491
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 7: because I've seen it from Gina before. I'm just gonna

1492
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 7: take what the defense gives me. I'm gonna spread it

1493
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 7: around but this offense, our explosive plays come from DK

1494
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 7: right now, KA and we are we're too fragile of

1495
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 7: an offense and a team not to get those big plays,

1496
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 7: not to pull a defense over to DK that we

1497
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 7: can design plays away. That game at least showed how

1498
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 7: important DK is to this offense.

1499
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: I was talking to our producer of NASA at dinner,

1500
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 2: and I said, a big time receiver is a necessary eason.

1501
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: A big time receiver is not gonna be the final

1502
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: piece to put you over the top and win a

1503
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but you can tell when he's not there.

1504
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 3: You feel it.

1505
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 2: The space the game is more congested that you're not

1506
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: putting pressure on the safeties a receiver and now they're

1507
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: getting paid thirty thirty five million dollars and you're gonna

1508
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: have to make a decision about DK. And I think

1509
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.

1510
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: And last week we saw that because there was no

1511
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 2: one who can stretch the football field. You had a

1512
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: nice what seventeen eighteen yard game up to seam to

1513
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: a tight end, but of the presence of a six three,

1514
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty something four to three running out

1515
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 2: there just puts a different type of pressure on a defense.

1516
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: I watch corners just sit on routes.

1517
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 8: Sit.

1518
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm at six yards, I'm gonna sit here because you're

1519
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: not faster than me. You can't beat me over the top,

1520
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: and that just that closes the window. So I think

1521
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: people figured it out. If they haven't figured it out,

1522
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 2: listen to us right now. Will tell you that you

1523
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: need a DC a type of receiver out there. The

1524
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: question is are you willing to pay for it, because

1525
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: receivers now the last three or four years are getting paid.

1526
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna get paid.

1527
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere else, Well he's gonna get I think, ob

1528
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 3: here think so.

1529
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 5: Well, look after last week how important it is to

1530
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 5: this offense? I think so, Now that's an offseason deal.

1531
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 5: Let's just get to the playoffs and win. I got

1532
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 5: one more kind of ties into this, all right, because

1533
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 5: last week, Wow, we didn't have.

1534
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 7: Any exposed plays over the top. There were I think

1535
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 7: it was one of the first passes.

1536
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 5: It was open and Geno didn't Jeno tried to force

1537
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 5: an end route in between the couple.

1538
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 7: But there was actually one. It might have been Tyler,

1539
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 7: I don't know who. The other wide receiver he was open,

1540
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 7: but it's forcing Gino to make perfect decisions in that situation.

1541
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 7: So my question is, does Gino need to play his

1542
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 7: best game of the year for the Hawks to win this.

1543
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: Sunday best his game of the year. I think that

1544
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: Gino needs to have the best game.

1545
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: To me, when you talk about Gino, it's not three

1546
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

1547
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 3: It's throwing the ball twenty five thirty.

1548
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: Times Atlanta two hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns, and

1549
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: get a whole bunch of first downs and just move it.

1550
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 2: That's the That's Gino's best game to me, because when

1551
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: he has all those attempts, when he has to throw

1552
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: for the three into fifty yards.

1553
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: What does that mean? Run game ain't there.

1554
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: So I don't think he needs to have his best

1555
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: game statistically. He will have other games where it looks

1556
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: better on paper. His best game to me is a

1557
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: control type of game where he's putting pressure just enough

1558
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: pressure on that defense to open things up. But Grubb

1559
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: has allowing him to hand the football off. So no,

1560
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't need to have the game of the year statistically.

1561
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: Decision making wise.

1562
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 5: He needs to be on point yeah, I think you're

1563
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 5: right there too. I think statistically right, it didn't have

1564
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 5: to be I don't need him four or five touchdowns,

1565
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 5: you know, three hundred and fifty yards. I actually would

1566
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 5: like for him to throw under thirty passes. Yeah, that

1567
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 5: is a recipe for success because we are running it,

1568
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 5: and that means we're probably in the lead as well.

1569
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 5: I think you're right. I think he has to make

1570
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 5: really good decisions. So it's like that one.

1571
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 7: I mean that there's a guy open that he's got

1572
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 7: to find. If he's got time, he's got to make

1573
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: that really good decision and a good throw. I think

1574
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 7: Gino's only had one off game, really an off game

1575
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 7: there San Francisco. He missed some throws high, I mean,

1576
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 7: but other than that, I mean he's he's a very

1577
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 7: accurate passer. I thought last week, you know, maybe he

1578
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 7: tried to force a couple of things that he got

1579
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,600
Speaker 7: away with.

1580
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 5: So I think he needs to make his best decision game.

1581
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 5: He needs to be really accurate.

1582
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think just statistic, because here's the thing.

1583
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 7: If everybody else doesn't help him, it's a new point, right.

1584
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 7: I mean, we don't play good defense if our line

1585
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 7: doesn't give time. If we don't run good routes, if

1586
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 7: we don't run the football, man, this ain't it's not

1587
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 7: gonna be on Gino.

1588
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 5: Gino's not that guy. He's not that superman. He's capable,

1589
01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 5: but let's not put that on.

1590
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 3: All right there, it is talk that talk. Me and Moyer.

1591
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: Man, we're we're starting to agree more in our old age.

1592
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: We've done this for a while, We've been together for

1593
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: a while. You know, I think we would just finished

1594
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: the other sentences, and you know we just know each

1595
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: other too well. All right, when we come back, we

1596
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: will give you our final thoughts and keys to the

1597
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: game that's next right here on Hawks Live.

1598
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,479
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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,640
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1601
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: Last segment for a Hawks Live every Thursday. We are

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01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 2: right here at bellv Square Center Court on Michael Bumpus

1603
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: with Paul Moyer. My kids went trigger treating today. Moyer,

1604
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: my oldest son. I thought this would be his life.

1605
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: I thought he was done tricker treating. He's a freshman now.

1606
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 2: But apparently they just traveling groups. It's different now because

1607
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: now he's not chicker treating with mom. He's with his

1608
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 2: boys now and they're traveling around and I'm tracking them

1609
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: on his on GPS and making sure he's not where

1610
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: he's not supposed to be. And he was Batman.

1611
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 3: And my daughter was some character from an animated movie.

1612
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: I should know. She showed me this morning, gave me

1613
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: a whole rundown. And then my middle child was a dinosaur,

1614
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 2: one of the big ones.

1615
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: That you that in flight. And I go, it's gonna

1616
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 3: be so hard for you to get around, and he

1617
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 3: was committed, No, Dad.

1618
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I go, all right, man, but

1619
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for you to get around. So

1620
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see or to hear how his

1621
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: his journey was because I was gonna be tough. My

1622
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 2: favorite costume that I was I was My dad was

1623
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: a marine, so I had him send me some of

1624
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: his old fatigue and I put all the makeup on

1625
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: and stuff the EyeBlack and all that, and I was

1626
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: I was a soldier. I think that was like sixth

1627
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: or seventh grade. That was my favorite costume. What was

1628
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: your favorite costume?

1629
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 7: You know, we didn't we didn't have a lot of

1630
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 7: money growing up. You know, my dad had a good

1631
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 7: job and we lived in a nice area. Don't get

1632
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 7: me wrong, but you know, they they stretched for us

1633
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 7: to live there. Now, so my mom would make stuff.

1634
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 7: I mean at the time, I was just going like

1635
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 7: a hobo, you know, it's just that kind of thing. Yeah,

1636
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 7: I mean I was just like, we wouldn't we didn't.

1637
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 7: I mean, you cut out sheets. I mean, there was

1638
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 7: no going to a storm buying. Yeah, an outfit back then.

1639
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 7: I do my probably my biggest memory and where I

1640
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 7: grew up in California. I mean, you know, howling was

1641
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 7: huge because you just you're out of streets, it's flat,

1642
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 7: it's good weather.

1643
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 5: I mean, you could not wait. But I remember I

1644
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 5: was about fourteen to maybe fifteen, maybe too old, maybe

1645
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 5: thirteen whatever, that age where yeah, you probably.

1646
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 7: Shouldn't go trick or treating anymore, but I'm gonna do

1647
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 7: it anyways, and I wanted to go. My dad was

1648
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 7: you know, they all went together, the families, you know,

1649
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 7: they took their you know, hot toddies and things and

1650
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 7: their mugs.

1651
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 5: And this year, my dad didn't want to go, and

1652
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 5: he's like, you look, son, come on, he goes.

1653
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 7: I'll go buy you twenty five dollars worth of candy. Now,

1654
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 7: twenty five dollars worth of candy. I'm not gonna Fifty

1655
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 7: years ago. Fifty years ago, forty eight years ago was

1656
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 7: a I would have been a big bag of big

1657
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 7: candy bars too, like you know, the supreme ones.

1658
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 5: And uh, I said, no, Dad, I'm going, I'm going.

1659
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 5: And I got, you know, just nothing good. You know,

1660
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 5: you lay them out.

1661
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 7: My have to is sorting it and then getting to

1662
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 7: your siblings and trade. And I mean that was a

1663
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 7: ritual back then.

1664
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I miss it. I miss going with my kids.

1665
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 7: I got grandkids now, so next year I probably won't

1666
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 7: be here for Halloween because they're my oldest now is

1667
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 7: gonna be about four.

1668
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 5: The other ones are gonna be two. It's kind of

1669
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 5: a fun age.

1670
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: I teach my kids about taxes on Halloween. Lay your

1671
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: candy out. I'm the government. Give me some of that.

1672
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: Give me about twenty to thirty percent of that right now.

1673
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 7: And they're the ones that say, yeah, I'm not those

1674
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 7: are tips. I'm not claiming them.

1675
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 3: Hide that ten percent?

1676
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: All right?

1677
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 3: How do they get it done? This week? It's gonna

1678
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 3: be tough.

1679
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: The Rams always play the Hawks, Well they always it

1680
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: could be a back arterback. The quarterback can be hurt.

1681
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: It could be Todd Gurley back there. It doesn't matter.

1682
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: I've seen just many dark days and my eight years

1683
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: covering this team. When it comes to the Rams. What

1684
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: is it about the Rams? It doesn't matter who the

1685
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: coach is. They just find a way to get it done.

1686
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean McVeigh, it matters. Look, I mean

1687
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 7: it's their scheme. I mean, their schemes tough. I mean

1688
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 7: you got to prep for it. Look, we got really

1689
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 7: smart coaches in the NFC West, I mean Shanahan and McVeigh.

1690
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 7: I was hoping Ivyble to retire at thirty four years old,

1691
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: or however old he is.

1692
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 5: He's young.

1693
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 7: It's going to be tough the way to do this

1694
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 7: one because I'm again I'm more worried about our confidence

1695
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 7: than our ability. You know, if we get behind early,

1696
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 7: it's that, oh no, here it goes again. Even though

1697
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 7: we've done a really good job for the most part

1698
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 7: of them last week in the second half to get

1699
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 7: back into games, have chance to win on the final drive.

1700
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 7: We've done that in every game, you know, for the

1701
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 7: for the most part of them, last week. But I

1702
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 7: think this is one of those. We need some easy,

1703
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 7: fast break points. We need, you know, explosively. You know,

1704
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 7: fifteen play drives eighty yards really tough to do. We

1705
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 7: can't give up seventeen play that we got to get

1706
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 7: to turn the ball was on the ground twice last week.

1707
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 7: We got to get those. We got to get them

1708
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 7: the third down more often. We got to win those

1709
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 7: first second down mixed down situations and get them in

1710
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 7: their legit third down situation because I believe we cover well.

1711
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 7: I believe we have good pass rushers inside and outside.

1712
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 7: So I mean, it's just fundamental football. I mean, it's

1713
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 7: it's simple, but it's hard, and we got to just

1714
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 7: get back to let's do it good stuff.

1715
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 5: That's simple even though it's hard. We just got to

1716
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 5: make it look simple.

1717
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: I need the receivers to make some tough catches, some

1718
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: tough plays.

1719
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 8: Man.

1720
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 3: I think there are times where they have made some

1721
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: tough catches.

1722
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 2: But you look at the elite teams who pass the football,

1723
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: and statistically the Hawks are an elite team that pass

1724
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 2: the football, number one passing offense in the game. But

1725
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: I need DK to go up and take it off

1726
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: somebody's helmet. I need JSN to make a catch on

1727
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: the sideline on a third down when you really need it,

1728
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: need tie the locket a goal across the middle, catch it.

1729
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: You can get down, roll for a couple more yards

1730
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: if you need to get it. Just the tough plays, man.

1731
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: I think that's what separates the good passing games and

1732
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: the great passing games, is you make a catch that

1733
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to make. And when you can do that,

1734
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: the quarterback trusts you a bit more and maybe you

1735
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: take a few more chances. I don't need Geno to

1736
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: be reckless with the football, but when you play the Rams,

1737
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a drive or a moment where you

1738
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: need this and the dB is gonna be on your

1739
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: hip and you got to.

1740
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: Make a play. And I think we missed a couple

1741
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 3: of those the past few weeks.

1742
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1743
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 7: I think defensively, man, just do your job, do your

1744
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 7: job and it's there. It's not effort. Right now, it's again,

1745
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Speaker 7: I'm in the sea gap. I think the running backs

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01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 7: looks like you're going to be getting the beat. No,

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 7: you got to stay in the sea gap. You got

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 7: to count on your there. Once it's in the that

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,560
Speaker 7: spot where it can't come back your way, then you

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01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 7: can go do that. And we got to start making

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01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 7: just some place. The first drive that Buffalo had, we

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01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 7: should have been off the field twice.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I mean those are the moments, are those big moments

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01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 5: in the game. We just got to start. We gotta

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01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 5: start getting so it's a big game, though. I'm nervous

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01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 5: about this one, which is a good sign. You know.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you're confident we're gonna play well, it doesn't play.

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 7: I'm nervous about this game because of the confidence. I'm

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01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 7: not in the meeting room. I'm not a practice every day.

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01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 7: They're confident, they're practiced, they're.

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Speaker 5: Ready for this game.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you one thing. I will challenge this though,

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 7: and it's a problem. We have lost home field advantage. Yeah,

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 7: the twelves, the ones that were there are doing the

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01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 7: best they can. We've given up our seats. I'm gonna

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01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 7: tell you for those stop selling your tickets because the

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01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 7: visiting stands. It is completely the visitors now, and it's

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01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 7: we never had that before. You go look at a

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01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh game, you don't see another color. It's all black

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01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 7: and gold. You go to Green Bay, it's Green Bay fan,

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 7: a little you know, smattering there that used to be here.

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01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 7: You'd see a little bit of forty.

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Speaker 5: Nine er fans.

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Speaker 7: You see maybe a Buffalo Buffalo bill fan Ironde and look,

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01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 7: they got great fans, but they don't travel that far.

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 7: There's no way they don't have a base here. We

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01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 7: used to dominate other stadiums when we went on the road.

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01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 7: I'm shocked, man, I'm disheartened by it. I don't know

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 7: what you do about. I'm saying, I think it's an

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01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 7: off season thing that the Seeouks are going to need

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01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 7: to look at because guess there's no guarantee you get

1783
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 7: your tickets. I mean, I'm looking at those corporations. It's

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01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 7: become a problem and you should not allow it. And

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 7: one way we do that, Seahawks get the lead and

1786
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 7: just yell from beginning to the end. Make this a

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 7: college atmosphere again, because it's we got to get that back.

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Speaker 3: Drop the Michael on that one right there, all right.

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