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Speaker 1: previously this we gotta talk about that, your friends with?

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with y'all y'all? Who's your yeah? Secause I'm me.

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Speaker 1: So who you was talking about? Come on? Pop started?

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Speaker 1: What I wouldn't say. You didn't say that. You said

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Speaker 1: work to get it. Never punched. Make me say your name.

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Speaker 1: Y'all need to sit out and talk. Why wait? Wait, wait, wait?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. So I'm familiar with him because he supported

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Speaker 1: Oh please, that brick house right there barely come out

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Speaker 1: If this beat cocke, the dumping, the dramability, it's nothing

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Speaker 1: making the jury look good, but I'm talking about a

425
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Speaker 1: lot of money. It takes some time to make a

426
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: lot of money, you see. So it takes some time

427
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: to learn something. You got to install something, install something,

428
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: especially if you're moving around like me, like I've noticed

429
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: over the last six months of my life, because I've

430
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: been giving a lot of output. Just imagine, I've never

431
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: said the same thing on the podcast. I've never used

432
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: the same quotes, I've never used the same reference, I've

433
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: never said the same metaphors or anything. I'm like just talking,

434
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: but I'm making sure not to be redundant because I

435
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: care that much about the people that's listening, right, I

436
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: really care about I really you know, this is I

437
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: enjoy this, And so it's a challenge when you had

438
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: to come in here in freestyle and kind of make

439
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: sure that you ain't saying because it's easy to say something,

440
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, get a reaction. Every single time you said

441
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: I got stuff. This did fifty million views, right about

442
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: mental health and things that I've never said. Again, I've

443
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: never even repurposed, which is a mistake. I gotta learn

444
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: to repurpose content. Everybody out there that is listening, repurpose

445
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: your content. That's a bad, bad self. But let me

446
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: get back to what I was saying, because I'll get

447
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: off track, and today we all gonna have a short

448
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: part because I don't really have a lot to talk about. Right.

449
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna address this Joe Budden thing a couple other things,

450
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: and then we'll get out of here. One thing I

451
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: hope dudes ain't doing in this game is underestimating loan

452
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: or putting me in the box. Because everybody that ever

453
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: put me in a box in my life, they measurements

454
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: was off. Every time they thought they had me in

455
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: the box, they was wrong. Every time they thought they

456
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: had me count it out, they was wrong. They never

457
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: been right about where they placed me. So when I

458
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: hit them saying I'm going the wrong way, I tend

459
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: to feel good about it. I know they don't respect

460
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: the future. I know they ain't installed nothing. They don't

461
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: understand agriculture. I know they ain't putting no seeds, no

462
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: whar they ain't water nothing. I know they ain't having

463
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: nothing to look forward too live for. I keep them

464
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: kind of people far away from me. I keep the

465
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: kind of people that's gambling what their life far away

466
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: from me. We can do that with the money. We

467
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: can gamble with the money, not our life. We're gonna

468
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: keep our life, preserve our life. We got little ones.

469
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: They don't know nothing. Sometimes I look at my kids.

470
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: I know they don't know enough. The world got so

471
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: much involved in it. They don't know enoughing, they don't

472
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: post nor enough. It's too early to know enough. So

473
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean I got to stick around, keep giving them

474
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: the game as they going. Make sure they understand. Man,

475
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I got to break these little habits because when you

476
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: get older, it'll be much easier for you. Right. It's

477
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: game that I gotta give them, But I gotta stick

478
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: around to do that, Which is why I can't gamble

479
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: with my life, Which is why I can't be around dudes.

480
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: They gamble with their life. Now, putting your life on

481
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: the lane and gambling with your life is two different things.

482
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes the circumstance call for somebody life gotta be put

483
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: on the line. As frightening as it might sound to

484
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: a civilian, it's just how sometimes things have to come

485
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: to terms. Somebody gotta be willing to put some blood

486
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: in the street about some respect or some boundaries or

487
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: some rules or some laws. Some blood gotta be ship.

488
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: This is just what history has taught me. This ain't

489
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: loon advocating war. This is what America has been able

490
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: to put in place to be the tycoon that it

491
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: wants was. And so these podcast dudes don't have nothing

492
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: on me. I want every single person that listens to

493
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: me to understand something. I'm not being cocky. I want

494
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: to promise you guys that I've been able to establish

495
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: a certain level of understanding that request wise these guys

496
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: to get out of my way. They don't even have

497
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: a choice in the matter. If they stay in the

498
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: way and they have to deal with me, they are

499
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: being embarrassed and they go for all of them anybody.

500
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Nobody's excluded from that. And unfortunately, listen podcasting, there's no

501
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: war here. We're just talking to people. No whoever has

502
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: the compelling content, it'll it'll, it'll, the cream arise to

503
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: the top. And at the same time there is niches,

504
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: and so everybody won't like everything. That's that's beside the point.

505
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: The competitive nature that now has even arrived in podcasting

506
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: has ignited another side of me, because now I'm willing

507
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: to say all they want to compete, that's the last

508
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: strong just the trick is I get to compete and

509
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: build a legacy. I hear some of these dudes talking

510
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: and it's clear to me that they no longer seeking

511
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: And that's how you feel, especially in the age of technology.

512
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: There's way too much technolog to be sitting back on

513
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: your old ways, your big stomach and your old ways.

514
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: It's it's too much technology out here, it's too much

515
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: money to get. There's too many people doing things with

516
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: the audience. Again, I look across the street that what

517
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club is being able to do. I look over

518
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: that Rogan what he's been able to do. And when

519
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: I say Breakfast Club, I just mean in regards to

520
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: that being an audio based platform. Look at all the

521
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: money they're able to generate, right the ad based model

522
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: that they have in place. In my opinion, all YouTube

523
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: podcasts are syndicated because in the same way that Breakfast

524
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: Club goes out the fifty marks, your YouTube with the

525
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: right market and right push, right guests and the right

526
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: marriage goes out to all them same markets. Maybe not

527
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: in the same way, maybe not at the same time.

528
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: But I'm just speaking on the word syndication knowing what

529
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: to do with the business. And this is again, this

530
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: is just what we're about over here. None of these guys,

531
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: I feel like all threat to me. And I feel

532
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: like I'm a threat to every single one of these guys,

533
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: and not the big dogs. They out of the way.

534
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: And when I say big dogs, ain't but one two

535
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: of them. That's just in media. And I ain't just

536
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about the real media giants, the

537
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Perris, the real big dogs in the game. I

538
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: feel like I'm the best podcaster that's ever created. And

539
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: that's just me. And if I didn't feel that, I'm

540
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: sure you wouldn't feel that. But I think the energy

541
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: is clear. I think everybody, no dude, feel that, and

542
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: he moving like that, and people appreciate what he bring

543
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: to the market. But none of you guys got nothing

544
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I want. Not a podcast, not a woman, not a card,

545
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: not a deal, not a business relationship, not a pair

546
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: of clothes. Nothing. None of you guys got nothing that

547
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: I want. Let's move on. This one is a doozy.

548
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Adam twenty two fires Lush live on camera. For those

549
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: of you who are unaware of Adam twenty two, No

550
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Jumper or who Lush one is. Lush one is an

551
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: employee of Adam twenty two, which has a platform called

552
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: No Jumper. We've had him on the show. He has

553
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: about five six means subscribers on YouTube. He had a

554
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: whole operation going over there, so he was starting to

555
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: have shows almost every day on the network on what

556
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: he calls his channel of No Jumper. This would require

557
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: for him to establish new talent hire people, and he

558
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: has about ten on camera people. When I went out there,

559
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Adam. It was a very

560
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: interesting conversation about his employees. He had expressed to me

561
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: that he didn't appreciate the fact that they were talking

562
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: about what happened at No Jumper, and they were having

563
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: conversations about things happening that No Jumper, and they were

564
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: kind of monetizing that and it was kind of interfering

565
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: with the relationship on camera at the workplace. As crazy

566
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: as the universe is, now, Adam is in a situation

567
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: with one of his employees for going to his employee

568
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: and talking to him about things that was going on

569
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: in the workplace. Again, this was somewhat of a contradiction

570
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: based on our conversation with Adam, But we want to

571
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: establish that Adam has the right to do what he

572
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: wants with his platform. Hence why he's now headed in

573
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: a different direction. I want to take a look at

574
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: this lush one altercation where Adam walked in fresh with

575
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: the information that lush one has been speaking to unknown

576
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: individuals about information he gave him in confidence about someone

577
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: else's name ad on the platform A d as a

578
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: person who I spoke to Adam about, who helped crack

579
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: open this new talent wave at a time when no

580
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: jumper was broke. According to Adam, so I thought he

581
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: had a lord to the ad but according to Lush

582
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: and other individuals, Adam didn't have that lords and he

583
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of a d on this show.

584
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Adam called Lush into his office. He spoke with him

585
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: for a second and said, Hey, did you tell anybody

586
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: what I said? Because Adam has the information that I

587
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: told only you. Lush says no. Lush goes on to

588
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: go and record this what we're about to look at.

589
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Adam walks in live to fire him on camera. Let's

590
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: take a look. Yeah, hell yeah, I'm the only black one.

591
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: But what we are what we are on Adam Lush? Blush,

592
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: you lied to me? What you lied to me? Lush

593
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: about what what I just try to talk you about?

594
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: In all? Nah? Yeah, nah, yeah, I didn't say nothing.

595
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: That's probably that's probably the first sign that you're dealing

596
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: with somebody that probably ain't telling you the truth, right

597
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you say, Hey, yo, Lush, you lied to me. I

598
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: think you might have lied to me about what you said?

599
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: Lush I think you might have lied to me. He

600
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: just said nah, And then you say, yeah, yeah, you're lying. Nah.

601
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, you ain't even saying I nah, I ain't

602
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: lied about a motherfucker. Ain't saying nothing. You just gonna

603
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: hit me with the nah and that Jim Polder's that

604
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: is that. I'm Polder. You're right, You're You're right, brother,

605
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: all right, man, I appreciate you. I'm glad I came

606
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: here and asked you. Did he think that that was

607
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: gonna get it? Like I come to address you about me?

608
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Thank you. You You just lied to me. Say, man, did

609
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: you just lie to me? Dah? Is that all you

610
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: got from me? You definitely lied to me. Nah. If

611
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: that's all you got from me, home, you lied to me.

612
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Let's look well, I got con confirmation from a bunch

613
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: of different people. Nah yeah nah. Yeah. It looks funnier

614
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: the more you lie. You cannot just continue to nain

615
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, man, that's a weird little interaction.

616
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Let's start it from the top. Yeah, hell yeah, I'm

617
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: the only black woman. But what we on? What we on? Adam,

618
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: blush blush? You're lied to me? What you're lied to me?

619
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: Lush about what would I just try to talk you

620
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: about in all? Nah? Yeah, nah yeah, I didn't say nothing. Well,

621
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: I got confirm confirmation from a bunch of different people

622
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: nah fo yeah nah yeah, And it looks funnier the

623
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: more you lie. I don't. I really like when I mean,

624
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: how many people do I need to have confirm it

625
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: before it's like like crazy? Like, Bro, I've talked to

626
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: you about talking in the discord and saying crazy, but

627
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I never knew that you were this fucking looney with it? Bro?

628
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: And can we turn the beat off it? Can I

629
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: hear it? Spacebar? Yeah? You're what You're sorry? Nah? Like,

630
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't like what I didn't say anything you said

631
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: a lot of like direct quotes or I said only

632
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to you because I can trusted you, man, when like

633
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't think this weekend? Yes you did?

634
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: And why why do you think multiple people who are

635
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: in the discord just made it up? I mean I

636
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: don't know, like like literally I talked about it in

637
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: the discord, but I didn't say any quotes. Yeah you did? Well,

638
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: then how do people know? Bro? Like who else did

639
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: you talk to about that? I mean I understand you

640
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: want to ask follow up questions instead of addressing the

641
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: fact that you're a snake. But bro, I didn't say that,

642
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: like like like seriously, well, it's pretty crazy that you're

643
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: just lying more right now, I like, like literally, like

644
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't if I would have said it, Like like

645
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: when did I say that? No you did. You said

646
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of talking about how much people get paid

647
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: and no, no, I didn't do that. That's complete cap

648
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: like seriously, Like we could go in the discord and

649
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: talk to those people. I would love that. I would

650
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: love to be proven wrong because I trusted you this

651
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: much and that I don't I don't even know what

652
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: people get paid, Okay, but I mean, why why do

653
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I have random people in the discord telling me, oh,

654
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: so and so said this, and it's like something that

655
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: I guarantee somebody said to you or that you've heard

656
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: around the office, but that you never obviously should have

657
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: spoke on. No, we could go in there and like

658
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't say that, like seriously, like, so is

659
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: there no one else like pretending to be in there,

660
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: to be you in there or something? I mean, you

661
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: could look through the entire chat log in there. I

662
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: didn't say anything like that in there full. Okay, well,

663
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe we can do like a full analysis of it.

664
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: But I think I get the GISTs from talking because

665
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: because I did not say that, Dude, I did not,

666
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: like I'm saying. If I did, I would have told

667
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: you when you asked me before, like, no, you lied

668
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: to me to my face out there right in my

669
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: own office, Dude, I didn't you did. If I did,

670
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: I would have said something. Well, then there's a bunch

671
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: of people in the discord who are tragically misled, and

672
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: some of them are people that I trust. I mean,

673
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Mikey's in the discord, Like

674
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: did I say? It feels kind of crazy that all

675
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: these people would just like try to frame you, you know,

676
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: it seems a little bit more likely that you're just talking.

677
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of like I'm I

678
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: trying to throw nobody under the bus. But I didn't say,

679
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: like what you said that that I didn't say that, Okay,

680
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I didn't. Well, like I would have told you if

681
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I did, Like I mean, it's just it's gonna it's

682
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna take you providing the entire discord chat and pointing

683
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: out line by line things that you didn't say that.

684
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm being told by multiple people that you did say

685
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: I could show you the entire chat. I didn't say that.

686
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: I honestly think at least for now, maybe we could

687
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: come to the bottom of this at some point, but

688
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: it's probably better that you just leave, all right. Thank you,

689
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. I did not expect us to be

690
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: a narrative that was taking place today, but we just

691
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: we gotta hold ourselves to a higher standard. And uh, yeah,

692
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I'm just super disappointed. So you

693
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: hear Adam speak about kind of that synopsis I gave

694
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: you where he spoke in confidence to lush One. That

695
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: was the distraw that broke the back. He probably shouldn't

696
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: have confided in that guy. He didn't know that guy

697
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: long enough to do something like that, but I think

698
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: that speaks to how he truly feels. Because ad finds

699
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: this out and it's like, Yo, damn, you told a dude.

700
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: You don't even know that when we talked about you

701
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: removing me from the show, it wasn't gonna be all

702
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: of that. We wasn't gonna do all of that. What

703
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: it was gonna be was I just was gonna be

704
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: removed and we was gonna move on. But now he

705
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: coming back with certain digs at me, certain things he

706
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: was saying about me, and I think black people are

707
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: tricked by loyalty. He put lush One in that situation.

708
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: Firing him on camera then resulted in a domino effect

709
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: because that information was given the AD. AD didn't appreciate it,

710
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: and now the information that A D wasn't on Tuesday

711
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: show would be relayed to Trel and Trell would say,

712
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it if AD didn't do it, because

713
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: A D was someone that brought us all to the game.

714
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: He unlocked this over here and brought us to No Jumper,

715
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't do that, So he can't be gangster

716
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: enrolled with a D. Lush One responds the day after

717
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: and gave a little insight as to why he left

718
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: No Jumper or why he feels like his altercation with

719
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: No Jumper happened number one on camera and some of

720
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes things he's being accused for. Let's

721
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: take a listen. In September, my entire world was unraveled

722
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: to the point where I was openly suicidal. I was

723
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: at the end of my rope and didn't even want

724
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: to go forward in life. So I was at a

725
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: low point in life. I lost everything that I felt

726
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: was near and dear to me, and even the things

727
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: that I still did have. Intact, it was hard for

728
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: me to even recognize it because I was so in

729
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: this funk, and it's difficult. If you haven't been there,

730
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: if you haven't gone through this type of depression and

731
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: self loathing and self doubt and pain and inner turmoil,

732
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't You wouldn't understand. And No Jumper getting

733
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: that look on No Jumper gave me a second life.

734
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: It gave me hope, It brought me back, and in

735
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: the midst of that, in the midst of that feeling

736
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: went I started to lean really heavily on the positive

737
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: feedback that I was getting from these fans, because I

738
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: wasn't seeing it in other aspects of my life, with

739
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: my mother being incredibly ill, with my relationship deteriorating, with

740
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: the financial struggles that pretty much sent me back to

741
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: round zero. Despite everything that I had going on with

742
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: the Battle Rap platform GTX, which has been so successful

743
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: in so many ways, and I'm so grateful for Despite

744
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: all that, despite the people in my corner that love me.

745
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: I felt so low and this is what brought me back,

746
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: and the connection that I had with the fans that

747
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: really helped me crawl out of that hole. And I

748
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: kind of leaned a little bit too into that and

749
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: relied too much on that feedback for my self esteem

750
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: to the point where I started to feel empty without it.

751
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, I now felt like I was part of

752
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: this new family. And I had this whole new group

753
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: of friends that didn't know me like that, and I

754
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: wanted them to like me, and I wanted to be

755
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: a part of it, and I wanted to do whatever

756
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I could to continue to get that validation and that

757
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: love from that fans, as unhealthy as it is, as

758
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: counterintuitive to my nature as it is. And you know,

759
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I've had those problems with validation for years, and I've

760
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: had insecurities for years. I think that the fact that

761
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: I've been so um open, you know, hearing some of

762
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: these things. I know mental health is a very interesting

763
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: and rough thing to to deal with. That's number one.

764
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: But I think that he kind of gives off this

765
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: kind of vibe that unconfrontational, maybe someone that's non violent,

766
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: almost a pushover you know, I'm not saying he is,

767
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying the vibration. It's like, um, he

768
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: speaks to that and it almost feels like he might

769
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: have been defeated at some point, not that he currently is,

770
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: but it almost like his vibe as man, nah man,

771
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: I haven't been through hell man. You know, it's kind

772
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: of like he wears that like with my spirit is

773
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: warrior spirits, Like damn man, dude, must ain't never meant

774
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: nobody to putting him on his ass or something. He

775
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: think he can do anything, you know, and not disrespectful,

776
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he thinks he can accomplish anything. He

777
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: has a level of confidence that at his old age

778
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: has to be connected to some kind of experiences, you

779
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so when when I think

780
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: when I see him talk like this is almost like

781
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I can see why Adam might roll around him and

782
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: talk about the gang banger. Du Hey, man, you know

783
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: I got the guy, you know, the ad dude I've

784
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: been working well, I'm gonna get him offhill. It's like, damn, bro,

785
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: and that being your guy, that was your guy. Guy.

786
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at a little more couple other things,

787
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: though I think there's more to it than what people

788
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: see and what people are aware of. A couple of things.

789
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way I was treated on the

790
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: pod as far as I felt like, and a lot

791
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: of it was my own doing, and I'm responsible for

792
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the negativity that came my way. But

793
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: I felt like my earnestness, my genuine nature, and things

794
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: like that were very badly exploited for content. I felt

795
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: like people wanted to make a joke of me. And

796
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I put in way too much work for way too

797
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: long in hip hop culture. I way too many accomplishments

798
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: in hip hop culture. I've been way too solid with

799
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: way too many people and way too many cities, neighborhoods, states,

800
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: and countries to be treated like I'm just some regular

801
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: guy that deserves to be exploited and roasted and talked

802
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: down to by anybody is lame, That she's not cool,

803
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: that she wasn't good for my brand, that she wasn't

804
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: good for the brands of anybody that with me in

805
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: any capacity, All that is pathetic. The fact that I

806
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: was labeled as pandering to black people because I'm an

807
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: advocate of disenfranchised minorities, and I'm aware of systemic oppression

808
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: and racism and the evils that the forefathers of this

809
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: country and the people that are the ruling class have

810
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: perpetrated on minorities for all this time. The fact that

811
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm aware of that and speak openly about it was

812
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: looked down upon, and I was looked at as pandering.

813
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: When we're in hip hop culture, that is literally what

814
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing as an active participant, as

815
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: a guest in the house, a welcome guest in the

816
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: house of hip hop culture for so long, that's what

817
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing. Look, hey, I'm not shearing

818
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: no motherfuck tears here. I'm not playing the victim. I

819
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: know this is my fault and I'm responsible for it,

820
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: and I could only control my actions, and my actions

821
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day left a lot to

822
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: be desired. Now, I do want to unpack this situation,

823
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 1: but I just got to keep it as stack. Let's

824
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: talk about this specific situation. I definitely said too much,

825
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: I'll just say that, and I trusted people that I

826
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't entrusted. But I was also taken out of context.

827
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: I was also light on and I was also misrepresented

828
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: by people who aren't even willing to stand on their

829
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: words at this point, and it's a little bit frustrating

830
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what the motivation is and I'm

831
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: not sure why, but let's talk about it. Friday, I

832
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: get a text message from Adam and he essentially said,

833
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: I've already spoken to a D. I spoke to a

834
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: D and he is let him know that he's no

835
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: longer going to be a part of the Tuesday show.

836
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I want to move forward with you, Trail and Court.

837
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if Trail is gonna be down or not,

838
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he might be. And my response

839
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, like damn, that sucks. Are really with

840
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: a D? And I have a loyalty to a D

841
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: because a D is the reason why I wound up

842
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: being on more podcasts ad If it wasn't for him

843
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: pushing for me that initial time, it never would have

844
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: happened with me being on there. I'm gonna get into

845
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: there's some things I have to reveal about the people

846
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: that we're behind this whole thing getting out. So I

847
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: Adam hits me up and was like, yeah, I'm gonna

848
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: remove a D from the pod, and I said, you know,

849
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea. I believe that's

850
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: going to cause a lot of division and the no

851
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Jumper community. I definitely don't think that trail and do

852
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: know when all those other guys are gonna keep rocking

853
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: with it if that's the case. And Adam essentially was like,

854
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: I was like, but I support you regardless of what

855
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: your decision, Like, I rock with you, but I don't

856
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: think this is a good idea, and I wish there

857
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: was a way that you would reconsider we could change this.

858
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: And he basically was like, look, you know, I'm willing

859
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: to sacrifice people being mad at me and going against

860
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: me for the long term goal. And he said multiple

861
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: times that he kind of wants to pivot and shift

862
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: the direction away from No Jumper. This isn't a secret.

863
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: He said this publicly. He's said publicly multiple times he's

864
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: no longer really interested in hip hop culture. Told me

865
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: the reasons why he wanted to remove a D. There's

866
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: no reason for me to think that he wasn't forthright

867
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: with a D about that. He never said, don't discuss

868
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: with ad what I told you, or he told me

869
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: that he'd already talked to a D. So when I

870
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: initially spoke with A I wasn't aware that there were

871
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: any secrets or anything that hadn't been mentioned, or anything

872
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: that I should stray away from had I been had

873
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 1: he said, don't discuss this. This is already and plus

874
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: like the whole reason, the main reason he said he

875
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: wants to pivot away from a D wasn't even discussed.

876
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about the four jokes, which he has

877
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: said openly on the podcast several times. But he wasn't

878
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: happy about is a bunch of other things. He wasn't

879
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: happy about the fact that ad is on a bunch

880
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: of other podcasts his own content, and didn't seem that

881
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: interested in doing the No Jumper pod. And when he

882
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: was there, he wasn't fully present, And Adam had spoke

883
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: to him and I about that, and he even mentioned

884
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: if you watch community, he mentioned that on community that

885
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: we spoke about that, and you know, I'm sure he

886
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: wasn't psyched about the fact that people that ad work

887
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: with are openly talking down on him and making comments

888
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: about him and going against his agenda and things like that,

889
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: people like pun. You know, he wasn't happy about that.

890
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: He never went on ah Boys or anything like that.

891
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: You know, as I listen to this, one thing that

892
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: come to mind to me is, and I think hip

893
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: hop in specific is dealing with some arrested development in

894
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: this area. Is to failure to realize that you're running

895
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: a business and how to run that business. I think

896
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Adam got lucky. See, you gotta learn how to be

897
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: a boss. I just was speaking about once your life change,

898
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: you gotta put yourself in position to change your life.

899
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So you have to get

900
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: the information. What I think happens is a lot of

901
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: these guys continue to freestyle because they get lucky at

902
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: some point, and you can operate with a limited amount

903
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: of information up into a certain point. Then you need experts.

904
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: Now you gotta spend some money to hire some people

905
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: to come in, right, I see that would be Marshall

906
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: even see that with Pivot. Right, you hire these people

907
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: to come in and say, hey, we've been doing this

908
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: twenty years. No, I mean it's gonna cost you a

909
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: little some of your money, but it's gonna be worth

910
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: it with destruction and how we're gonna run this business

911
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: side of this thing, Right, I think Adam and mostly

912
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: everybody in this space is just freestyling, and so when

913
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: they find themselves in these situations, this is how they learn, oh,

914
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: you can't do that. By the time Adam got win

915
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: the adt rail all and with streaming and it was

916
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: doing well, he couldn't stop it because in the event

917
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: of him stopping it, he looks like a hater. It

918
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: looks like them. You're trying to stop them boys from

919
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: making their own money, right, And so he couldn't stop it.

920
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: He hit got out of control. Now he wants to

921
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: bring people in and say, hey, you can't do nothing else.

922
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: And I see people mention this bar stool thing or

923
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: like contracts, So that's not true. I'll get into that

924
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: at some other time. That's definitely not true. Now they

925
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: have a right for you to bring a show to them,

926
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: and they can refuse to do business with it or

927
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: say hey we'll go ahead and green like that, but

928
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: they're not They can't tell you not to do anything

929
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: if you got the right kind of lawyers. Let's move

930
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: past that. But I think Adam was freestyling. When you

931
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: listen to lust, let's listen to a little bit more

932
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: than we'll listen to what Adam had to say and

933
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: get to a D side. You know, it's understandable. Those

934
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: were That's the primary reason he didn't want to be on.

935
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: He didn't want a D on the show, regardless of

936
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: when I called a D. What I talked to him

937
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: about was I was like, look, he was like. I

938
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I heard what happened. He's like, yeah,

939
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 1: you know it. He wasn't really tripping, but he wasn't

940
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: happy about it. He was. He just wasn't really. He's

941
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's he got his own thing going on.

942
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna be all right regardless. But I said to him,

943
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: I was like, look, do you have a problem with

944
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: me continuing to be on the platform. I don't want

945
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: to do something that isn't in your good graces, since

946
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for you, I want to be over

947
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: there still. And he said, nah, do you think get

948
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: your money? I mean, it's all good. I'm in a discord.

949
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: I got named Guilty's discord. Now, despite the fact Guilty

950
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: openly supports far right wing ideology, despite the fact fancies

951
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: himself a Nazi and the disciple of Hitler, and so

952
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: basically where we are just for a time. Step is

953
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: Lush is explaining why he kind of has a lord

954
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: to the AD. I'm not sure why because he already

955
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: admitted that he wouldn't say nothing if he didn't know

956
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: Aden and didn't know, so I'm not sure what that means.

957
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, a D has the information. At this time,

958
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: Adam also has the information that a D has the information.

959
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: Adam knows he spoke with Lush about this information. Lush

960
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: comes out and says, damn, I didn't say it. They've

961
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: now fired Lush. A D now has a decision to make.

962
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: Now you know, this is how Adam looks at you,

963
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: what do we do? A D decides to part ways

964
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: with no jumper. We do have a D on the line,

965
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get a D on the phone. He's

966
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: waiting right now. We're gonna get a D on the

967
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: phone and let him kind of explain what happened. But

968
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: before we do that, we want to go to his

969
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: conversation with him and Adam twenty two. We want to

970
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: really put a fence around this so we can understand business,

971
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: we can understand friendship, and we can understand how these

972
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: things intersect. Because there's a lot of business to be

973
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: had to be discussed in regards to this. Let's pay attention.

974
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: Can you hear us? Adam? Yes, what's the deal? What's

975
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: up Adam? Hello? Punks together? What's the word? What's the world?

976
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: We live it good? We're trying to get to the

977
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: bottom of this man. What's up with you? I don't know,

978
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Just scarf down some steak. I couldn't even wait for

979
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: it to digest to call into the stream. Fuck was

980
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: that a joke? Yeah? I should have FLI well, actually,

981
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: we trying to see what's up with you? Though? What's

982
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: up with you? Want two day ship where you do

983
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: what happened? Oh? Okay? So I mean I talked to

984
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: ad about this earlier, and I expressed my sincere regret

985
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: about the fact that he had to find out about

986
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: anything critical that I had to say about him at

987
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: all in such a you know, terrible way, because you know,

988
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: the thing that like, okay, the thing that was Stubb

989
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: that I said was the thing about I'm sick of

990
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: hearing the same thing four jokes every week or some

991
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: sh like that. That was like the rude thing that

992
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I said to Lush that I probably wouldn't have said

993
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: to Adi's face necessarily in that way, even though to

994
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: be fair, that is kind of like one of the

995
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: things that me and Ad have gotten into it on

996
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: the show about over the years. That's really where the

997
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: tick meme came from in the first place. So, um,

998
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just I feel like I've

999
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: never even been in this position before where I was

1000
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: having a conversation with somebody that I trusted and then

1001
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: I got to find out that they were just laughing it,

1002
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: not not just like one person, but to like a

1003
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: whole room full of people that he doesn't even know. Like,

1004
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's just a dam That's cool,

1005
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: that's cool, right playing Victims? You know, everybody know. I

1006
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: watched the Shaw Victims. He was talking about the bus back, bro,

1007
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Why did you even go to Lush? Why don't you

1008
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: just go to your man's? It showed mans something. Why

1009
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: does it go to your man? Why did you go

1010
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: to Lush? I mean, you're you're framing it as I'm

1011
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: not framing nothing. That's what you was doing. You talk,

1012
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: don't tell me what to do. I see it as

1013
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking behind with one of the

1014
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: co hosts. I was having a conversation with one of

1015
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: the co hosts about something that was, you know, obviously

1016
00:57:53,560 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: a very big decision that I was considering making. So

1017
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to A D. I mean I had

1018
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: I was waiting. I was talking to Lush about it

1019
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: before I had the conversation with a D. Because I

1020
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: had been thinking about having the conversation with Ad for

1021
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: so long, and I thought that Lush was somebody that

1022
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: I could, you know, have the conversation about while I

1023
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: was contemplating this big decision. You know, I thought that

1024
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody that would never repeat that anybody,

1025
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: And I didn't even think that that needed to be said,

1026
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, but you do understand that should have got

1027
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: repeated if you would just went direct to Ad with it.

1028
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying that show man, is that he

1029
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: stuck it out with you in the mud during quarantine.

1030
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: All that why doesn't go to him direct? Bro, That's

1031
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: all I'm asking that I didn't go to him to direct.

1032
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: The fact that I considered Ad a friend and the

1033
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: fact that I have loyalty to him as well, and

1034
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: that I still wanted to continue to work with him

1035
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: on at the end of the ship on the we hunger.

1036
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: That's why I even felt the need to try to

1037
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: find or to have the conversation with Lush about the

1038
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: fact that I was considering making this a very big decision. Again,

1039
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: my question still remains, if this decision was so big,

1040
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: whise Lush, who is brand new own the ship. I mean,

1041
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: at least you go get the operational manager to come

1042
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: into the meeting. You don't let the person on the

1043
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: cash you'll make that kind of decision. I still can't

1044
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: understand why he confined in Lush. I do think it's

1045
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: because Lush, again is non confrontational. I believe that he

1046
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 1: thought that he had a power over Lush because Lush

1047
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: needed the position. He might have had a glimpse into

1048
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: Lush's financial situation and say, hey, he not gonna cross me.

1049
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: He can't afford to. This is an opportunity for him,

1050
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: and boy, I know, opportunity of locker motherfucker up, opportunity

1051
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: to make month deal with certain in his experience probably

1052
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: so he probably didn't see that coming. But these are

1053
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: good questions for Adam. In my opinion, he kind of

1054
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: is throwing it off the I think he's emotionally unavailable

1055
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk to a d about that in

1056
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: a second. But I don't think Adam is there in

1057
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: regards to man, I hurt your hard man. I think

1058
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: he's done lucked up guy in this situation and he's

1059
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: like in this shock or something. I really don't know.

1060
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: Let's listen, you know, no, I don't know, man, I'm

1061
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out why just go to your

1062
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: man's you know what I'm saying. So I got I'm

1063
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: not gonna go to the flock. I'm not gonna the

1064
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: same type of way me and you supposed to be

1065
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: way better than that. That's all we're gonna showed. Man's, bro,

1066
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: you can talk to your man. I'm preppering for your

1067
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: wedding right now. Turned out I was talking to Lush

1068
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: and the whole discord chat. But I thought I was

1069
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: just talking to Lush. Yeah, but we didn't we didn't

1070
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: go to nobody went to them direct. You show me

1071
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: we didn't go buy wen't a conversation about it before

1072
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: you went to them, right, We got an internal decision.

1073
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: We had a conversation on the spot. We had a

1074
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: conversation on the spot talk when when I asked Josh

1075
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: what he thought about it. Behind the scenes. Hey, we

1076
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: had a conversation on the spot. It showed man's bro,

1077
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: you show me, Yeah, And I was talking to my

1078
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: other man's about a big decision that I was considering

1079
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: making business wise. Listen, man, let's just came around, bro.

1080
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: Let's just come around. Bro. That's a good point. You

1081
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm saying, this is your man's bro.

1082
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: This who got in the mud with you? Bro? When

1083
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: when all this kind of like h going down for

1084
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: no jumper. It was just kind of stuck in a

1085
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: weird space. He got the mud with you, would have

1086
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: helped you and did what he could do and put

1087
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: it put on his back with you check on. You'all

1088
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: beasts did all that real big shit. So you should

1089
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: at least give him that respect to talk to him

1090
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: like a real homie and not go confide to who

1091
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: just started working for you a year ago. You feel

1092
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: me and have to hear it from him at discourt.

1093
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: That should crazy you feel me? Well? The Distroy part,

1094
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I agree is saying, but you know it's like, at

1095
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I was just having a

1096
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: conversation about a big decision that I was considering making

1097
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I mean, this is the fact that

1098
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: it got out there insane. But let's keep your mind.

1099
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: Why did it get out there. It got out there

1100
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: because Lucy lips sink ships and Lush has a big mouth.

1101
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, at the end of the day, nigga,

1102
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: you know how you know how that mama heard that

1103
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: to that fouls at him. I'm gonna keep a gainst

1104
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: with you, Bro. I would never ever in my life

1105
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: do that or do if I ever had a problem

1106
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: with you. I come to you all the time. I

1107
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: tell you that should bro, I always do that. Bro. Bro.

1108
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: The fact that I have so much love for you

1109
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: is why if you had if you had love, if

1110
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: you had love to me like that, Bro, you would

1111
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: have came to me like a man that said a

1112
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: d I ain't feeling your performance right now, step it

1113
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: up and we're gonna replace you. Keep it gainst. Let

1114
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: you have that conversation. We ain't never had that conversation, Bro.

1115
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: You have never had that conversation. You ain't never had

1116
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: that conversation with me. Bro, you ain't never had the me.

1117
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: You and Lush were in my office a couple of

1118
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: months ago or maybe a month ago having that exact

1119
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: conversation that's because of the blowback of the others. Was

1120
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: what you see now, you was feing, well, you got

1121
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: rid of your man's and you was gonna keep a snake.

1122
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: This is your words. You got a snake, You got

1123
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: rid of your man's and you're gonna keep a snake. Hey,

1124
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: that's a fine one. I agree. I agree that that's

1125
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: exactly how I feel in it. Since day one. You haven't.

1126
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: You never wanted me on a Tuesday show. Let's keep

1127
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: it real. Then later on she started going good and

1128
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: it was talks and was like, well maybe we should

1129
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: go another direction since you got Wednesdays and it's being successful.

1130
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: You never really wanted me there at the beginning the

1131
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: first place. And I'm on, we gave it a shop

1132
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: for three years and then I wanted to try something else.

1133
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: You don't think I brought that to the table or

1134
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: bought viewers for me on the Tuesday show. No, I'm

1135
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: acknowledging your contract and I'm just saying that I wanted

1136
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: to try something else, and well, okay, and all you

1137
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: had to say was, hey man, we're gonna try something else.

1138
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: But Nick, so I think this is an important time

1139
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: to notice why you know, Adam may have wanted to

1140
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: try different time or try something different at this time.

1141
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: A couple of land marks, a couple of things that's

1142
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: happened in the last couple of weeks. There's another employee

1143
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: that was working with Adam that he quote unquote outed

1144
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: on an interview on the platform, speaking with the transgender

1145
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: person on the platform about his cowork or someone not

1146
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: even co work, somebody that works for him. So he

1147
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: outed that person. Now he did say he instructed his

1148
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: editors to remove the names or bleat the names. I

1149
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: don't even know why you flirt and have the conversation.

1150
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: So that's that's a conversation that you're having with someone

1151
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: that you're cool with right there. So that's house Phone.

1152
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: That's a guy that was with you from the beginning,

1153
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: right that was with you when they was hanging around,

1154
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: I think in the stores when she first started. I

1155
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: ain't even I don't know if the store thing is right,

1156
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: but I know he's been around for an extreme amount

1157
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: of time. Adam flirts with having an interview with someone

1158
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: that wants to expose him. They do the interview, This

1159
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: interview end ups going out without the name bleeped and

1160
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: exposes his homeboy house phone leaves. After that, there was

1161
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: some situation with another employee where they try to expose

1162
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: him on camera, live on stream, calling this old hometown

1163
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: and all that live on camera right, and people were saying, well,

1164
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: this is instructed by Adam right. So there's two things

1165
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: in which employee boss relationship is tampered with or it's not.

1166
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: It's unconventional, it's non traditional. In my opinion, we can't

1167
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: keep ignoring the business structure of these industries. There's a

1168
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: reason why the structure of business has been this way

1169
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: for a hundred years. People don't have supervisors because there's

1170
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: just a nice title to have team lead and HR

1171
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: department in certain structures inside of the workforce. It's because

1172
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: it works. It's because delegation of responsibility is important, and

1173
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: understanding the scope of the business is important. Right. You're

1174
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: probably telling you doing got too many hats on in

1175
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: my opinion. After that, a couple of people that's a

1176
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: ledge Nazis come up ad and them call him out

1177
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: about that. Yo, man, you got these Nazis up one

1178
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: nobody black, Yo, you got a black platform. I'm telling

1179
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: you man. Even when I spoke with Adam, it's like

1180
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: something misses not readist? Are you hey? Whoa my guy? Hey?

1181
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Anybody in there? You built your shot off black people?

1182
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, man, seemed like when Joe Budden

1183
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: said to you, black people help you build you kind

1184
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: of well, let's be reasonable. If you look at all

1185
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: my videos, I got to say, hey, hey, hey, buddy,

1186
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You know black people built that

1187
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: man that was built on behalf for rappers, and that

1188
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: was us done that. It's almost like then he was

1189
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: already starting to separate and this couldn't nicked the relationship.

1190
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: He was already viewing it in a way. Why I'm

1191
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: not sure I'm making money off point? Do this? I

1192
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: do that? Now? That ain't what I'm saying. I'm saying,

1193
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 1: what gave you your legs? And in this business there's

1194
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: a you post to have a certain amount of lordsy

1195
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: to what gave your legs? And when we look at Adam,

1196
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: I just don't see that lords. I think he's not

1197
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: available emotionally, and so ad is kind of upset. Let's

1198
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: listen to a little more. Then we'll go to get

1199
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: to Adam trying to explain to Joe button what he

1200
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: meant and got tripped up several times. This has been

1201
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: an interesting roller coaster. Pay attention, this is important. Try

1202
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: to kick me out and keep my man's on there.

1203
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, I wasn't exactly I wasn't exactly

1204
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: optimistic that cREL was going to be down, just because

1205
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: I know about the fact that you guys are tight

1206
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: and that he you know, weird look, but you know

1207
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: that is what I said. I showed you the conversation

1208
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: that I had with Lusch, and in that conversation, I said, yeah,

1209
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, it's probably it's probably not

1210
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen with the t relping. I'm gonna be all

1211
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: the way honest. That's some supreme and I'm gonna tell

1212
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: you to leave the show, but I'm gonna tell your

1213
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: homeboy to stay on the show. And I ain't gonna

1214
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: lie t Rel. I don't know him, but he gotta

1215
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: be probably older or come up on this some principle

1216
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: because most of these new age would have took their

1217
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: job and said, I got a family to feed. Man,

1218
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: you know, AD didn't want to stop me from feeding

1219
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: my family. Then they would have convinced a D. A

1220
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: D could have possibly been out here. Ay, I ain't

1221
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: want to stop him from feeding his family. He got

1222
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: to feed his family. Some people ain't standing on that.

1223
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: They hadn't behind these little slogans they're found on the internet.

1224
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: Feed my family and it's about my kids and ship

1225
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: that they hadn't behind that when principle is involved, and

1226
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: so to see a D and t Rel and t

1227
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: Rell basically been on found no jumper. They say, so

1228
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: if he owned there and he say, oh, you found

1229
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: a D, you know I can't do the show off

1230
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: ad He ain't doing it. But the idea that Adam

1231
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: would flirt with that see why I come from, it's dangerous.

1232
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: I know this damn this starting beef when I'm from.

1233
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: That's like me going to somebody, you know, going to

1234
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: somebody that got an artist. Man, you know, I'm really

1235
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: with your boss, man, but you know I'm with you though.

1236
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: That's like, man, put him in a weird position, like

1237
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like where we come from,

1238
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: that can be tooking his disrespect for almost the idea

1239
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: that you want to kick me off? Keep my home

1240
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: boy who I brought up? Hill? Ain't you white? And

1241
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: we don't know if you're going the other route and

1242
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: you just had a racist dude up here, like what

1243
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: we're doing, you horn? Are you trying to play what

1244
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: we It can turn into that. And that's why I'm

1245
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: I was saying, Adam better be careful with some of

1246
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: these moves he's making. I can tell he freestyling. Nobody

1247
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: would advise him to talk to Lusha about that. I

1248
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't advise him to get rid of a D. I

1249
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: would have said that was a lost lead if nothing else.

1250
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: And then you take a D and the other people

1251
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: he's bringing on this, creating these platforms. You start to

1252
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: bring that under and y'all get a partnership and like

1253
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing. Let ad running No Jumper

1254
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: Live or No Jumper Gaming adds you. But if we

1255
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,959
Speaker 1: partners in your like these dudes not thinking they're not bosses.

1256
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 1: I had to get a brick, break it down. I

1257
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: really want it all away from me. If I buy

1258
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: five bricks, I'm really giving it all out on credit.

1259
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: But I've invented everybody I'm dealing with for years. I

1260
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: know about what they can handle, what they're paid back,

1261
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: they pay schedule. See this is the both side. They

1262
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: ain't never had to do nothing like that. They never

1263
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: had to delegate nothing and really depend on nothing. You

1264
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: don't want to sit with five bricks, You get them out, Hey,

1265
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 1: here go you something, gonna get your hustle on, You

1266
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: get your like it's out there to people, and most

1267
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: of them people is gonna come back right, some of

1268
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: them not. But this business and that's better than you

1269
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: sitting there home with five bricks, waiting on the police

1270
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: to come get it or waiting on them to catch

1271
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: you with it. And so you gotta start to wait

1272
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: these things out. And in my opinion, a d should

1273
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: have been kept, if for nothing else, that's my avenue

1274
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: into that lane. Let's listen to a little more. And

1275
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: my whole thing is that I wanted to put somebody

1276
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: on the podcast, and in order to do so, I

1277
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: felt like I had to take somebody off. And you know,

1278
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: this is just like this is business like. It's like

1279
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: in terms of who's on the podcast, I gotta be

1280
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: able to make the decision about who I want to

1281
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: have on my podcast, and it can't be some weird

1282
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: like loyalty thing where it's like, oh, this guy has

1283
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: been a good frame. Keeping me on a Tuesday, well,

1284
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: I can disagree with that wholeheartedly. So for those of

1285
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: you didn't hear what Adam said, he said, I gotta

1286
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 1: be able to make a decision on the podcast without

1287
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: it being this weird loyalty thing. I agree with that

1288
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: for people that came along after this is already established.

1289
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: But for the people that had they shovel in the

1290
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: ground with me, were gonna have to establish something for

1291
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: you to eat off this right here right We're gonna

1292
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: have to figure something out with you because you've been

1293
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: dedicated on my side for as long as I've been

1294
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: drilling these holes. You've been on my side for as

1295
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: long as I've been digging for gold. You've been right there.

1296
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: How damn me get here and say I'm done with

1297
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 1: you if you reverse the roles, I can guarantee Adam.

1298
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: When it felt like that, let's say No Jumper started

1299
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: to fall and a d started to go and take off,

1300
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: I would imagine Adam will want him to give him

1301
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: some kind of lords and man, you started over him,

1302
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: No Jumper, we kind of gave you your star. Man, Like,

1303
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: can we get an interview? Can we get a people

1304
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: leverage their relationships in this business. That's just part of

1305
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: this business. Pay attention. I just tried to have it.

1306
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: Every time some get cracking in that office. Who the

1307
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: first to go outside and do this? Get ready to

1308
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: ready for whatever? Right? So, how can you fault me

1309
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: for trying to have a conversation with one of the

1310
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: other co hosts behind the scenes about something that's me

1311
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: and your relationship like me and his relationship. I I

1312
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: to think that me and you want people in the audience.

1313
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: And this is where they led. This is where people

1314
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: let Adamant and some of these media guys get off

1315
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: because they kind of misuse words. Said, how can you

1316
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: fault me for having a conversation with one of the

1317
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: co hosts where there wasn't a conversation. You slandered me

1318
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: to a co host who you just man while I

1319
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: rolled with you through pandemic when we wasn't even supposed

1320
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 1: to be outside, and I held you down and I

1321
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: built some thing up which we look up. It's worth

1322
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot of money. So this is not a conversation

1323
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: you had with the co host. This is you slandering

1324
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: someone that steward value when the building was on fire.

1325
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,480
Speaker 1: Help you put the file and also help you refurnish

1326
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: the building. Then I help you move to a new building.

1327
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: And this is figure speechs talking. But I need you

1328
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: to understand why you should lend them some Lord to

1329
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: lend them some there should be some creatus to what

1330
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 1: he's saying. It just seemed like you disconnected. Let's pay attention.

1331
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 1: But he's one of the other people who's on the podcast,

1332
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: so I was having a conversation with him about it.

1333
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be private, you know, like when

1334
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: you see that conversation, it's like, obviously because I showed

1335
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: just to be transplant. I showed you the whole conversation,

1336
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: even though I didn't want him. But now I'm like,

1337
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: doing value me on the platform? I do. I do

1338
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: value you on the platform. But that's that and that's why,

1339
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: that's why I complicated. I contemplated this decision for so long.

1340
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: I do value Listen to this, this is game and

1341
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: you know Adam, somebody I know. I try to get

1342
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: Adam to talk. He said he don't want to talk

1343
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: right now. Almost took that personal, almost because I don't

1344
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: need no friends in this industry. And if you dudes ain't,

1345
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen if I'm gonna talk to Joe Nim

1346
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: and talk to North Adam, right, we'll go hey. But

1347
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: that's one of the old school trick. That's game. Why

1348
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: cheating on you and I didn't tell you. I lied

1349
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: because I love you so much, Like I love you

1350
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: too much to like come home every night like I

1351
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: got to leave you wondering. I mean, I love you

1352
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: like that. It's almost like he's saying, like, I care

1353
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: so much about you, I slanted you to lunch, or

1354
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: I was contemplating it so hard. This is how he's

1355
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: framing it. I was contemplating it so hard that because

1356
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: I care for you, that I end up speaking to

1357
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: a dude. I just meant, I don't know. Pay attention.

1358
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: I contemplated this decision for so long, and I thought

1359
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: about it, and I even felt the need to confide

1360
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: in somebody like Lusch about the decision that I was

1361
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: contemplating because I knew that I was walking this tricky

1362
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: ass tight rope. Right. But then what happened after So again,

1363
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: this is just a conversation, and I'm just putting in

1364
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: context what was going on. Here's the interesting part. Adam

1365
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: twenty two after this, again he told me. He didn't

1366
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: want to do no media. So this is why I

1367
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: was upset. I see I see you everywhere. I think

1368
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: my line of question is uncomfortable for people, but I

1369
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: think they know I operate with a certain line of question,

1370
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: a certain information based conversation. Right, you kind of try

1371
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: to deduct that when you got something that had nonetheless,

1372
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure me and Adam would speak. I ain't gonna

1373
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: press the gas only too much. He went and spoke

1374
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: to Joe Button. This is where it gets interested. He

1375
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: continues to speak about a D and Lush involvement. Let's

1376
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 1: listen to what he said about ad before we let

1377
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: ad come on. We got him on the phone right

1378
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: now waiting. Let's listen to what he said about a

1379
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: D and Lush to Joe Button. Pay attention. So a

1380
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: D came in and was a star for the for

1381
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: the network. Yeah, I mean, like relatively s thinking it

1382
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: was doing pretty well, and it was, you know, very

1383
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: inspiring to us as a company who wanted to like

1384
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: build personalities. Because they didn't love him at first, and

1385
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: then within like a month or two they loved him,

1386
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: and it was kind of you know, it was like

1387
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: a really good thing for us to seecause we didn't

1388
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 1: know that we could necessarily get people to care about

1389
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: somebody besides me, right, And so we've been doing the

1390
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: show for like three years, and at a certain point

1391
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: over the past couple of months, I started to feel

1392
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I was seeing it in the comments

1393
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: where people kind of felt like maybe me and him

1394
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have the same vibe, or that the rapport

1395
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,839
Speaker 1: wasn't really like improving or anything. So I started to slowly,

1396
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: like hatch his plana improving improve the word improvings and

1397
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: says that something was wrong or needed to be improved upon.

1398
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: What went wrong between you and A D From your perspective,

1399
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't anything personal like between us. It

1400
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: was just the fact that, you know, I think my

1401
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: podcasting style has gone more towards wanting to talk about

1402
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: political stuff, wanting to have sort of intricate debates about

1403
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: stuff whatever, And like, you know, he's been very open

1404
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: about the fact that he typically is more just trying

1405
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: to have a good time and just trying to have fun,

1406
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: and like, you know, a lot of times, like I

1407
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: would be trying to really push for people to watch

1408
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: movies or documentaries or whatever, and you know, it's just

1409
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like I was just ramming my

1410
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: head into a wall because we just clearly weren't really

1411
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: on the same page anymore. Right, So I decided that

1412
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna have the conversation with him where I

1413
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: told him, I want you to stay on Wednesdays and

1414
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: keep doing you know, the he had a food show

1415
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: with this dude, Duno, who also was on the channel,

1416
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: and I basically said, I want to have you keep

1417
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: doing that stuff, but then I want to put somebody

1418
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: else on Tuesdays, right, which, you know, I thought it

1419
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: was like a reasonable compromise. What was that you said

1420
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: that to Ad? Yeah, so I said it to a

1421
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: d And then the next day I hit up Lush,

1422
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: who was one of the other dudes who was on

1423
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I told him about it. And you know,

1424
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: Lush basically had like developed a relationship with a lot

1425
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: of people in the reddit and the discord and of like,

1426
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: and I guess he was in some discord call and

1427
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: he basically just ended up telling a bunch of fans

1428
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: what what was going to happen before anybody knew about

1429
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: it besides me and a d And so then Ad

1430
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: ends up getting hit up by one of these people

1431
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: from the Discord who basically told him that they all knew,

1432
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: and like it was it felt like a D was

1433
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: reading my text to Lush. Now I think Lush was

1434
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 1: just actually like quoting my text verbatim two a D

1435
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: or two people in his chat and then it got

1436
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: back to a D. And so that took a situation

1437
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: that I thought was going to be able to be

1438
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: somewhat smooth in terms of, like, you know, taking a

1439
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: D off one of the podcasts, but leaving him on

1440
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: the other and letting him continue to you know, do

1441
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: stuff on the channel and everything. He ended up feeling

1442
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: pretty big tree. Then what's the issue that Lush told

1443
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: the Discord if he already knew? Because what did you

1444
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: say to Lush? Did you say to Lush that was

1445
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 1: foul about a D up about your guy who was

1446
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: there for you during the pandemic and help the network

1447
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: get to where it is today and you gave him

1448
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: another show to breakout star? Like? What? How different was

1449
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: the message? So it wasn't different, That's the thing. It

1450
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: was like maybe slightly more harsh than what I had

1451
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: said to a D. But the one thing that I

1452
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, the thing that I'm a little adam

1453
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: listening you could talk to me about this, right, because

1454
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: I have fired people and in finding people. Well, that's

1455
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: why some of this is pretty funny to me, because

1456
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: when I went through my man, did you cover it

1457
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: for the next two years? Boy, did you put a

1458
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: mic in front of anybody who has something to say

1459
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: about this? But when all that was happening, it was

1460
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: times I spoke to Rory about Mall and Mare about Rory, Right,

1461
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to see you must have said something

1462
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: really flagrant. Well, the one because I after this came up,

1463
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I sent a D my entire conversation with Lush so

1464
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: that he could see every single thing I had ever

1465
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: said to him. And I think the one thing that

1466
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: he was annoyed by that he felt was disrespectful, as

1467
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: I said something about a D not being on the

1468
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 1: show meant that I wouldn't have to listen to the

1469
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: same four jokes over and over Tuesday show, for granted,

1470
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: Or did you really just want to go in a

1471
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: different direction, because those are two different things, you know.

1472
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he wasn't improving, because okay,

1473
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: all at the same time, as this is going on

1474
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: a d for like the last year or two, as

1475
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: well as Trell, who was on the show for like

1476
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: the last few weeks before this and who's been on

1477
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: the Wednesday Show forever. He they started their own platforms right,

1478
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: like their own YouTube channels, community and back on fig

1479
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: right and not signed and No Jumper or not through

1480
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: No Jumper. Why because I think, like I didn't know

1481
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: that anybody who was on the No Jumber platform, Like

1482
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: I hadn't anticipated that I would need to have people

1483
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: in contracts making them exclusive or whatever. In fact, I

1484
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: encouraged Ad to start streaming in the first place, and

1485
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of thought that he was going

1486
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: to do more like gaming stuff or you know, I

1487
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 1: think I used academics as an example when when he

1488
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: first was going to start streaming, I'm like, you should

1489
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: just talk about like hip hop, you know, your perspective,

1490
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: and I didn't really expect that that would end up

1491
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: kind of you know, like I'm really proud of them.

1492
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: I just want to make that clear, Like these guys,

1493
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: the fact that they were able to build their own

1494
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: platforms off of it is like amazing to me, and

1495
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: like I'm very proud of them, and I'm proud of

1496
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: the fact that we had any involvement in it. But yeah,

1497
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I didn't really anticipate all this

1498
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: shit that would happen in terms of us kind of

1499
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 1: feeling like we were competing. And I actually I heard

1500
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Akin a D talking yesterday, and A D even said

1501
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 1: that when they announced their live shows, because they have

1502
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: some upcoming live shows and it's like literally in the

1503
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: same venue as the No Jumper live show that we

1504
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: did around a year ago. And it even admitted that,

1505
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: like when they announced us watch shows, that he kind

1506
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: of kind of expected that at some point this was

1507
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: going to become an issue, just because for us as

1508
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: a business to have them kind of doing like all

1509
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: the same things that we're doing. I think that that

1510
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: there was probably a shelf life on that Enemy spotted.

1511
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: There was probably a shelf life on that Enemy spotted.

1512
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: That definitely doesn't make sense to me. He didn't understand

1513
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: that ADNN was calling him a hate him. He didn't.

1514
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: He didn't see it, he said, even A D said it, like,

1515
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: I just it's like, oh, you missed that they were

1516
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: saying that, Yo, he gonna be made that we sold

1517
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: this out and try to fire us. He ain't gonna

1518
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: like that, he ain't gonna be happy for us. They

1519
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that to be saying like, oh, we understand

1520
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: what they like. Naw, because he don't. He can't find

1521
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: a way to tap into it. He gonna hate on us.

1522
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: So picture working under a dude and feeling like that,

1523
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Animal that's saying like there

1524
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: was a shelf life on them. The more successful that

1525
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: they got, picture that enemy spotted spotted it don't sound

1526
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: like you're running a business again. I think he might

1527
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: have slipped up into this network thing. Let's pay attention

1528
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: to a little more. There was probably a shelf life

1529
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: on that. That doesn't make sense. Why not, because because

1530
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a network and you break it,

1531
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: it's almost like you're saying that I only want you

1532
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: to serve us over here, Like if you can't be

1533
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: just for us over here, then we can't do it.

1534
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: And I think he believes that's how other people are

1535
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: doing business when you can look in the market and

1536
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: see that not being the case, right, And so I

1537
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: hope he's not able to convince people that they've locked

1538
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: people into these weird situations where you only can be

1539
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: profitable and beneficial right here, just right here. I think

1540
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: that's a weird vibration to have. But let's pay attention

1541
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: to a little more life on that. You're you're in

1542
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: content and they're in content. So wait, naturally the people

1543
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: that come behind, they're going to follow a blueprint. So

1544
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they be doing shows? Why wouldn't some of

1545
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: those venues be the same? No, totally, but I mean

1546
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: at a certain point them up now that's what I'm

1547
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: asking definitely. But you know it's like when when they're

1548
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: doing all the same stuff but we're not participating on

1549
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: a business level, and you know ad admitted that's wait

1550
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: wait wait anoledge this dynamic. I also think it's irresponsible

1551
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: for addam an act like that the first people to

1552
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: sell whatever venue that is out and when they're doing

1553
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: the same stuff, what do you mean Now? I can

1554
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: see from a business perspective saying, yo, they are, we

1555
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: are introducing them to relationships like at these venues. Right

1556
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: when they come with us, they meet these people and

1557
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: then they double back, and so we should have some

1558
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: sort of value from that relationship that introduction. I can

1559
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: see that. But why isn't that the conversation. Why is

1560
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: it like, oh, they're doing the same thing we're doing,

1561
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,520
Speaker 1: what selling out selling a show, doing a live podcast?

1562
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: So if I work for you, I can't do a

1563
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: live podcast. Is that what you're suggesting? I think this bs.

1564
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, somebody don't make sense. Pay

1565
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: close attention at them, but you never wanted but you

1566
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: never wanted to participate on a business level or else

1567
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: their platforms wouldn't be wouldn't be separate from yours. No,

1568
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: And I realized that now because even just listening to

1569
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: TRL talk about it, I just kind of realized that,

1570
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that I was going to put

1571
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: them on this Wednesday show and that that was going

1572
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: to be enough for them, and I didn't realize how

1573
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: much more ambition they actually had. And you know now

1574
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: that like pretty quickly they were doing you know, three

1575
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: nights a week, all of them were like streaming on

1576
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: their own platforms and stuff. So yeah, it just kind

1577
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: of got to the point where it felt like the

1578
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: focus on their channels not only made more sense for them,

1579
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: but also probably made more sense for No Jumper as well. Unfortunately,

1580
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: it went down in this crazy way where Ad ended

1581
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: up feeling kind of betrayed because he had to find

1582
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: out about this this discord call with Lush whatever. I

1583
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 1: wanted to be able to if we were going to separate,

1584
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to be able to do it

1585
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: and like the most respectful and chill, calm way possible.

1586
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: And instead, of course, the most dramatic podcast in the

1587
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: world has the most dramatic breakup in the world, Adam,

1588
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I notice is your white privilege jumping out. But you

1589
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: can't control their progress and control the detachment. You can't

1590
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: control the separation and control their problem. But you can't

1591
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I mean, in retrospect, I would have

1592
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: probably tried to, like, you know, incubate those brands through

1593
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,799
Speaker 1: No Jumper, and you know, maybe we get a percentage

1594
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: of it and we helped that we like deliberately go

1595
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: out of our way to help them grow everything. I

1596
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: also don't know if that ever would have actually worked,

1597
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, because they're very very like t roll and

1598
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: a d in particularly, they're like Nega independent minded. You know,

1599
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: It's like it probably would have been a pretty serious

1600
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: challenge for them to have like grown these brands. While

1601
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: kind of like operating under the No Jumper umbrella. Like, honestly,

1602
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how well that would

1603
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: have worked. Well. If your current business structures you get

1604
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: all the profit, then probably not. But if you create

1605
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: some sort of another facet of the business with them

1606
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: in mind, I think they wouldn't have a problem with

1607
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: doing that. And also, he said they're so independent, he

1608
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't see that being the case. I don't understand what

1609
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: that means, because if they were so independent, they didn't

1610
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: want to work with you when they blew up the

1611
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: minute they made more money from their own YouTube than

1612
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: they made it No Jumper, they have been gone. The

1613
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: minute they got the caffeine deal, which made them more money,

1614
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: they'd have been gone. The minute they did some of

1615
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: these moves, they would have been gone. Right, So let's

1616
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: pay attention to you know, they are not there because

1617
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: according to a DNT real in them, they are not

1618
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: there simply because of the money it was really loyal

1619
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: to to. It's like, yo, we've we've now are contributing

1620
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: to the brand because we are bigger personalities like a

1621
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: d T real fly. These people are personalities over there.

1622
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: So it's like we feel like we're contributing, but in

1623
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: his mind you just somebody else on camera and you

1624
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: still taking. I don't think he understands what this looks

1625
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: like on camera when he pours out of the No

1626
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: Jumper atmosphere. I don't think he understanding the respect people

1627
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: was giving him from a running a business standpoint. Now,

1628
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: if you were going broke or losing money, I don't.

1629
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,559
Speaker 1: I can't tell no dude to lose money. That's period.

1630
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk to ad even about that. Let's

1631
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: pay attention to a little bit more than this than

1632
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: we got a d on the line, and we'll move

1633
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: on the job. Moran speaking with ESPN, let's pay attention. Well,

1634
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 1: don't don't speak for them now. That seems to be

1635
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: a challenge that they were more than up for to

1636
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: do it under No Jumper, to be with No Jump. Yeah,

1637
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: I've listening. I've listened to every end of these guys

1638
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,480
Speaker 1: have done this week, and they all, even in separation,

1639
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: speak like they had no problem being ambitious at No Jumper.

1640
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: And their views of where the network was headed and

1641
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: your views or where the network was headed. It's just

1642
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: two different in two different places. Can you speak to

1643
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: me about that, can you speak to me about the

1644
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: pivot that you want to make with your content? You

1645
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: said you want to be more political now. No, not

1646
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: like specifically, It's just that in terms of the Tuesdays

1647
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: show specifically, you know, I was just I didn't feel

1648
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: it we had the best connection going at a certain point.

1649
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: Ada will tell you that when I had that conversation

1650
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 1: with him about replacing him on the Tuesday show, the

1651
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: first thing I said was, I think that this will

1652
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: be better for our friendship and our business relationship in

1653
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: the long run. But in terms of the other hosts,

1654
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: I didn't think this would be an issue, primarily because

1655
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: of the fact that, I mean, Ada had been the

1656
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 1: one who wanted to have us interview Nicks or we

1657
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: did like a debate, I guess, quote unquote, and you

1658
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: talk to me the decision to bring Richard Spencer on

1659
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: your show on your Tuesday with no black people present,

1660
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: that it wasn't on the Tuesday show, but it was.

1661
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I arranged a debate, a debate between a Destiny who's

1662
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 1: like a very popular left wing commentator, and Richard Spencer,

1663
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: And you know, I really didn't think like in terms

1664
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: of the other hosts, I didn't think this would be

1665
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 1: an issue, primarily because of the fact that, I mean,

1666
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: ad had been the one who wanted to have us

1667
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: interview Nick Fluentas or we did like a debate I

1668
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 1: guess quote unquote at a certain point a couple of

1669
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: months ago, but I guess he felt different about the

1670
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Richard Spencer thing or whatever. And the other criticism I

1671
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: saw from Van Lathan was just that the debate was

1672
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: a little bit too much of a debate, that we

1673
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: didn't really take time to dig into the creation of

1674
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 1: the all right and racist statements that Richard Spencer's made

1675
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: in the past and everything because he is arrative that

1676
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: he's questioned now is that he's a change man and

1677
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't you know, harbor Bill will towards whoever. And

1678
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean, in the context of a debate, I didn't

1679
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: think it would be that controversial for us the platform.

1680
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: So Adam, I admire the business that you've built, and

1681
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: I don't think any idiot could do it. Do you

1682
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: take accountability in lush sharing your personal messages with people

1683
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: or do you still put the majority of that on

1684
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: the fact that he shared those messages. I mean, just

1685
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: like you said before, like if there's a Joe Budden problem.

1686
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: And this is one of the things I said to

1687
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: him right away. I go, do you think when the

1688
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Joe Buddon podcast broke up, you don't think that Joe

1689
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: and Parks had had conversations about what was going to

1690
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: happen quote unquote behind Rory and Mall's back. I don't

1691
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: really feel like that was like as deceptive as it's

1692
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 1: being framed. I was just talking to somebody who I

1693
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: thought I had a close friendship with, who I thought

1694
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: had my back in terms of all this, and he

1695
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: not only lied to my face when I confronted him

1696
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: about it, but then he also so to to mention

1697
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: Joe Budden in that time. Joe Budden was wrong if

1698
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: he did that. So if Joe Budden win he spoke

1699
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: the Parks about Rory of Mall, he was wrong the

1700
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: same way if you spoke about anyone to anyone else,

1701
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 1: you were wrong. As the bass, How do the business

1702
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: like the bass? How do the business like the balls?

1703
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean he did it in the first place, like

1704
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: you're sharing like insiders with random people that you don't

1705
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: even know on a voice chat room. I mean, this

1706
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: is this is crazy. I understand that, and from that

1707
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: your decision was to fire him on air. You fire like,

1708
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: is that the first person to to to leave the company? Um? Yeah,

1709
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 1: actually because well, I mean yeah, basically yeah. And then

1710
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 1: the ad conversation I think took place like the next

1711
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: day in terms of him formally saying that he was

1712
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: going to do his own thing and all that. Okay,

1713
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: so one and one staff or leaving you can deal with,

1714
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: So you can deal with the exit of Lush. Then

1715
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: a d comes and says, dog, I'm off it. I

1716
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: can't put it no more. So that's two gone, right, yeah,

1717
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: and like him, him and Trel and do know, we're

1718
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: all like kind of a package deal. And I always

1719
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of knew that. That's one, two, three. So now

1720
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 1: that's four people gone, all in the drop of no

1721
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: did you? Did you? There's one more too. There's this

1722
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: other dude, Smack that Trel does his show with. And

1723
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are all kind of a package deal.

1724
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: So I mean it was yeah, okay, and all right,

1725
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: so now that's five. So who else left? Well, you

1726
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: got to rewind it to like a month or two

1727
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: ago when house Phone and this other dude BLOSSI that

1728
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: he does that. He was doing a show with they

1729
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: left as well. Why did house Phone and Blossie leave? Well,

1730
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: there's part of me that doesn't want to drag up

1731
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: the whole thing. But basically, I interviewed a woman and

1732
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 1: she basically took that interview as an opportunity to expose

1733
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: house Phone. And then I am, oh, wait a minute,

1734
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh Adam, you've been bugging for a second. I forgot

1735
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: all about that. Wait, the transgender woman and she outed

1736
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: your man and you allowed that to happen on camera again.

1737
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: I think Joe Budden Adam had this conversation. You here

1738
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 1: him mention house phone and he continues to mention a

1739
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: D and how we felt about a D and what

1740
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 1: ad said and how a D feels. I have a

1741
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 1: D waiting on the line. Let's get a D on

1742
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: the phone. And had a conversation ad what's up broke

1743
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: speaking of Adam twenty two? A D T real whole

1744
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: No jumper, man, we have a D on the phone.

1745
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: What's going on? My brother? It was happening, man, my brother,

1746
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: man alone? What's the D? LG Man? Nothing I wanted

1747
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: to call man. I just was listening. And then the

1748
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: Joe Budden and Adam twenty two conversation. You know Joe

1749
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: has a way, Yeah, he has a way where he's

1750
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: pressing up on Adam a little bit right, And you

1751
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: know I hit Adam up. You know I have a

1752
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: relationship with Adam. You know I had came out then

1753
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: interviewed him, so I hit him up. He was like, man,

1754
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: I really don't want to do no press right now.

1755
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 1: I really got mad at him. We really got the argum,

1756
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm like, man, you know you everywhere

1757
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: and niggas need to hear from you. When you just

1758
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: let go damn near all the blacks that right, most

1759
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: of these that matter. You let him go while we

1760
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: can't really talk to you about that, right. But then

1761
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: I said, loom, this ain't no streets bag up. Let

1762
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: the boy get him a little time. He'll come out

1763
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: and have a conversation. First. I want to congratulate you, though, man,

1764
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 1: because you know, oftentimes we don't think on our feet

1765
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: and understand pivoting. I believe even when I was out there,

1766
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: I was telling Adam, yo, it's too late. You can't

1767
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: stop these guys now, these guys as it already moved.

1768
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: I even asked Adam, I said, why don't you look

1769
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: at this like a workaround, Like they're not braaking viewers

1770
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: to No Jumper by being so active in that streaming market,

1771
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: and he just couldn't see the vision. Do you believe

1772
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: that being active in the community with the community, do

1773
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: you think that that added value to the show or

1774
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: do you honestly believe that it took from your presence

1775
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: over on No Jumper? Um, I think it added value

1776
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you're gonna, you know,

1777
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Adam gonna get the He gonna be the one that's

1778
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: gonna get the praise, Like, hey, you put him in position,

1779
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: and look what he created. You know what I'm saying, right,

1780
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: Like you're general making other generals. That's what I looked

1781
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: at it, right And and but it's Adam interested in

1782
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: playing kingmaker or as he was saying, from a business perspective,

1783
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 1: this this no longer is valuable to me because you aren't.

1784
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: Were you showing up for No Jumper in the same

1785
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 1: way that you've always showed up or in your honest opinion,

1786
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: did you enjoy doing community a little better? Was it

1787
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 1: the vibe a little different with pawn over there? What

1788
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: is it is it is it better for you over there?

1789
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Like it's your vibe different in that in that environment.

1790
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta look at it two different ways. Yeah,

1791
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: community is something that I owned. I mean, I'm literally

1792
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 1: at my own you know, I could, I could sit

1793
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 1: there and there's no pressure when it comes down to that.

1794
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: And even though I enjoyed doing the Tuesday show, you

1795
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: gotta you know, I think the things that made me

1796
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 1: great and what the people liked about me, Adam wanted

1797
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: to suppress and maybe not intentional, but you know, I

1798
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: used to make a lot of jokes and I used

1799
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: to say things that are like he would say, man,

1800
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: there it goes to tick. But those are the type

1801
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: of things that stuck. Like I used to always say

1802
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, at the end of

1803
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: the day end up becoming my show because it was

1804
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 1: something that I said all the time. You know, I

1805
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: was just I was just being myself. It was no pressure,

1806
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: it was no nothing. And I feel like um listening

1807
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: to him because I'm looking at him like, not only

1808
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: as a boss, I'm looking at him as somebody that

1809
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 1: I respect in the podcast space, and I do want

1810
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: to get better as a podcaster. So if he's telling me, yeah, man,

1811
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: oh that's too many jokes. That's a different tick. Change

1812
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,600
Speaker 1: this up. Do this is different. I don't like this.

1813
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I'm taking notes and I'm trying

1814
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,440
Speaker 1: to apply it. I'm thinking being becoming a better podcaster.

1815
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 1: Then it gets perceived that, hey, do not bringing the

1816
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 1: same energy to the platform no more. Yeah, because I mean,

1817
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 1: what works for Adam? What he can't critique us, right,

1818
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 1: he could critique us from a business perspective before our

1819
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: style on camera and how we talk, And now you

1820
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: gotta really kind of let us be who we are,

1821
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 1: especially if it's been profitable. Right, you just say that

1822
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: you came, and I heard him say you came in

1823
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: a time where he wasn't making no money, he was broke.

1824
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: So before we even get there, let's bag up a

1825
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,759
Speaker 1: little bit, because I got like five hundred thousand listeners

1826
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 1: on each show, each part, right, and I need them

1827
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,759
Speaker 1: to understand kind of what we're talking about and what happened.

1828
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: So give the audience kind of a cliff note version

1829
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: of a d who he is over at No Jumper

1830
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: and what just happened involving you Team Rail and all

1831
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 1: of that Okay, so, um, if you don't know, my

1832
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: name is A D. I was a local artist in

1833
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles radio play songs with like a lot of

1834
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: your favorite artists and stuff like that. Not really breaking

1835
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: the needle, you know, on a local level. Yeah, being

1836
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 1: able to survive, take care of the family and stuff.

1837
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: But the progression, I feel like he was at a

1838
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: stand still, and you know, I asked that him. I

1839
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: approached them. I was like, hey, man, with some of

1840
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: the interview as a rapper, gave me the interview and

1841
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: you can you can go see it. And what's crazy

1842
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: about it is that interview at the time they had

1843
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: like thirty thousand views for the year that video now

1844
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: was like, I think almost four hundred thousand views and

1845
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: cards over time. And once I did the interview, it

1846
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: left a good impression with Adam. He was talking about

1847
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: expanding and bringing you know, different people to the platform,

1848
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: and he thought that I would, you know, probably would

1849
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: be a good fit. So we had kind of like

1850
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: a little try out where I went He was like, Hey,

1851
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm honestly not knowing what I'm what I'm coming for,

1852
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: but I'm just sitting there talking, you know. Anyway for

1853
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: me to expand my brand I was down for so

1854
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm just talking. Maybe three or four months later, Um,

1855
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: he gets a deal with Snapchat, and Snapchat is like, hey,

1856
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, put together a show. We started doing something

1857
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the No Jumper News, which is still you know, prominent

1858
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:08,679
Speaker 1: right right right, yeah, more it more than it's something different.

1859
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: So um, at the time, I was kind of skeptical

1860
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: because I'm like, uh, media and blog in and podcasting

1861
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 1: it takes away from the artists. And at the time,

1862
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know nobody that look the

1863
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: user Snapchat, so let me go on, let me just

1864
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, try this out. I ended up trying it

1865
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: out maybe a week or two weeks later, the quarantine

1866
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: halfs and yeah. So um he ended up calling me back.

1867
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: He was like, hey, you wanted to start doing this,

1868
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, I'm like the world shut down,

1869
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't live too far from where y'all at. Listen,

1870
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 1: let's do it, right. So I just started going there

1871
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 1: back and forth, before before you go, Before you go,

1872
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: because I want to kind of break this up. This

1873
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 1: is so important right in that moment right there. It

1874
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 1: was specially in LA that was starting to be strict

1875
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: rules on how you're able to go out and get

1876
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: money even if you're able to do content. Right, So

1877
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: you was in a situation where you might have been

1878
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: helping Adam in a way that you may not really knew. Bro,

1879
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you might have knew,

1880
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: you might not really knew now looking back on it.

1881
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: In that situation coming in quarantine, tell me this, how

1882
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: long did you stay there? Because I know you mentioned

1883
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: you didn't even ask for no money. How long before

1884
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: you started to get paid? Would you say? I would

1885
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: say maybe a couple of months, A couple of months.

1886
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 1: That ain't that ain't bad? That ain't bad. No, no, no,

1887
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: it was actually it actually was. It was good because

1888
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I want to say, maybe a month, a month and

1889
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: a half got for like I want to say, and

1890
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: I was like school, Yeah, just doing nothing in quarantine. Right,

1891
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 1: you ain't really know. Now here's the here's the and

1892
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: we'll get to this later. Here's the important thing. He

1893
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: just unlocked something for you. He just showed you that. Oh,

1894
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 1: it's a value attached to this because people don't really

1895
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: know that A YO, us sitting here talking to our culture,

1896
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 1: the way we I experience this, it's value attached to this.

1897
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: I just signed the seven figure deal. You see what

1898
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I'm telling us like I ain't just

1899
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: sitting around talking. I know its value attest to this,

1900
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: and that's what he's done for you in that moment. Yeah. Yeah,

1901
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: So you know I get that. I get that little

1902
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: check and I'm like, hey, this is cool because you know,

1903
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 1: at the time, man, I'm gonna keep it honest. I'm

1904
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: sitting there doing club appearances. I'm getting my twenty five

1905
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: hundred thirty five hundreds for grids and you know, making

1906
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: it look good and all that. Yeah, I'm making it

1907
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: look good. I'm doing the best of I can. And

1908
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I get that. I get that, and I'm like, oh,

1909
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: that's cool, and you know, um he So I end

1910
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 1: up subbing on the podcast once the Tuesday show, and

1911
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot of the ways of my thinking

1912
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: at the time. I'm thinking like a hood you know,

1913
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I was saying things on camera. They was like, oh,

1914
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 1: we can't hear that. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure,

1915
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: and They're like we can't we can't hear that. I'm like,

1916
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: all right, cool, you know, I mean, am I bad?

1917
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 1: I told it down a little bit, so, you know,

1918
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: it was it was a real tight knit group and

1919
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting there working, I'm doing that. And

1920
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 1: once I started subbing, you know, people started telling me like,

1921
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: oh man, it's a bad idea. Stop doing that. You

1922
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: know you're gonna your music career. This is this, this

1923
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: is that. I'm hearing it all, you know what I'm saying, right,

1924
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: But I know this. When I started going out, I

1925
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 1: ain't used to white people coming up to me and

1926
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: like he hey, oh you're funny. I'm like, I wouldn't

1927
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 1: use to that. Started seeing little kids and white people

1928
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: and all types of people just different walks of life

1929
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: coming up to me like hey man, we were thinking

1930
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: you're funny and stuff like that at first, but after

1931
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 1: like a month, they really took to me. And I

1932
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: think that was, you know, the rawness that I was

1933
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: bringing to the table, the funny jokes I was saying,

1934
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 1: the ticks. You know, I'm I'm I'm drinking fifths and

1935
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting on camera and I'm just being you know who,

1936
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: I am, just being real honest, And you know, as

1937
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: time went by, m Adam was like, hey, we think

1938
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 1: you'd be good to have your own podcasts. And I'm like,

1939
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really thought about it, and I'm

1940
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: a person that moved by faith, and I was like,

1941
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what, God, if this is right for me,

1942
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: let it be. And you know, the signs was there

1943
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: and I just started doing it. And it's it's crazy

1944
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 1: too because I had a co host, which we would

1945
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 1: have been Gina. I ended up I ended up leaving

1946
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: it for like two weeks, breaking my phone and I

1947
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: having contact. Word wow. So I got back. As soon

1948
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: as I got back, they said, hey, um, Gene is

1949
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 1: off the table now. They said, you know, I said, well,

1950
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: what about Earie who works for No Jumper. They was like, no,

1951
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: we don't want you to do it with Earie. I

1952
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: was like all right. They was like, you know there's

1953
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 1: a girl named yeahs He there was like, you know,

1954
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: well we think y'all be good together. I said, I

1955
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: probably ended up filming our first episode the next day

1956
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 1: or the day before you the day after that. Wow.

1957
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I met the girl. I'm sitting there.

1958
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: You know. We started doing the show and it started

1959
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: doing good. The views wasn't all the way there, but

1960
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, I I was having fun doing it and

1961
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 1: started getting a little leg and situation happened. They kind

1962
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 1: of like blew it up, went out right. The situation

1963
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,640
Speaker 1: was that, oh the ot Genesis situation. Seen that I'm

1964
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: in the gleas that's my brother that he came on

1965
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, it went viral, but that's kind of

1966
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 1: how the show got his lips um right after that.

1967
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: You know the thing with the co host, wasn't it

1968
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 1: really going that good? Um? My managers boy punn, He

1969
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: suggested that we tried t rel Or and I was like,

1970
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I know t Rel, but I knew

1971
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: t Rel from the streets, right, you know what I'm saying,

1972
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: Like he was a he was a real street guy,

1973
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: just like myself, and you know we knew each other

1974
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: through that. We wasn't always on the same side of

1975
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: the fence, but you know, it was a mutual respect.

1976
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 1: So I said, man, let's try him out. The first

1977
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 1: day that I ever um sat down and talked to him,

1978
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: I said, man, he staying. And originally they were trying

1979
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 1: to make me and my other co hosts work out.

1980
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 1: I said, Man, that t Rel staying, and you know

1981
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: they didn't really want to stay. He's been able to

1982
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: shine and you know what, I'm hearing a lot of

1983
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 1: superstar yes man, he is, and I'm hearing a lot

1984
01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: of Uh, Adam didn't want to do that and it worked.

1985
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: Adam didn't want to do this and it worked. Adam

1986
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: didn't want to do but it ended up working. It's like,

1987
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: do you know of anything that he has said or

1988
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: pitched amongst y'all that has really worked? Or has every

1989
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: or he or has he just implemented the things that

1990
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: y'all have done organically and just you know, created his

1991
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: business model around that. Did he orchestrate any of that

1992
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,719
Speaker 1: that were that we were seeing basically as my question

1993
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: honestly like, Um, for the most part, no, Yeah, that

1994
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: was like you know, people that we picked or somebody

1995
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,560
Speaker 1: else bought to the table. But I will say I

1996
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: respect them for giving us free rein you know what exactly,

1997
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 1: but it's but you know what it is, go ahead,

1998
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. But if I

1999
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,560
Speaker 1: wanted to try something, you know, they were down to

2000
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: let me try it. Like for instance, I wanted to

2001
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: do movie reviews. I was fairly new. Um, you know,

2002
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: people was enjoying it, but the views wasn't receptive at

2003
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: the time, so they're like, all right, we cancel it.

2004
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, at least they

2005
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: let me even get the chance even try, right, And

2006
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: you know, I had another idea to do the food show,

2007
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: and they were, you know, they were kind of like, oh,

2008
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: we don't know, and then we tried it and it

2009
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: ended up being a success. So you know a lot

2010
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: of times, that's why I say, you know what, it's

2011
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: dope that they even let me even try something now,

2012
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,560
Speaker 1: right for sure, for sure, and I agree with that.

2013
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, does Adam can Adam see the vision?

2014
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: Does he see the vision in regards to hip hop

2015
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: content right, because he didn't want t Real to kind

2016
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 1: of do it according to y'all, and Trel smashed it.

2017
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 1: He kind of didn't want you up there. You smashed it, right,

2018
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: Certain little things he kind of really didn't take a

2019
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 1: liking to, and it kind of works. So I'm kind

2020
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: of interested in how he feels about his level of

2021
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 1: orchestrating that stuff. So let's continue with the with the story.

2022
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: Um so quarantine hit you, you come through. You know,

2023
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 1: while he's you know, struggling really to make content. Rappers

2024
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: can't move. People can't really move, but he got to

2025
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: keep pushing the content on the service fan base who

2026
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: was all there at that time. And then let's continue

2027
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: from now because I want to get up to how

2028
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:25,639
Speaker 1: to hear this happens? Yeah, it was me him house

2029
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: poone cam Girl. As far as sounding, that was it

2030
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: for people. Okay, that's in. That's in the beginning of quarantine.

2031
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: All right, So now what maybe maybe you know you

2032
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: can say Earie too, But Earie was like there for

2033
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: the music streams we used to do, but as far

2034
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: as talent, like, it was only the Tuesday okay, and

2035
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: then I show okay, so he had a very like

2036
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 1: skeleton crew. Okay, So now what So y'all are making

2037
01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: content for how many years all through quarantine? Like when

2038
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 1: did you start to feel or see? When did the

2039
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: community launch? Like we some land marks to see what happened? Um?

2040
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: So I ended up I'm sitting there subbing on a

2041
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday show for him. Um cam girls, she leaves, she

2042
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 1: leaves no jumper and then they're like, you know what

2043
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: a d We want you to be temporary. It was

2044
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: never supposed to be permanent, and we want you to

2045
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 1: be temporary until we find a replacement. So I said

2046
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: that's fine, And at this time I had my Wednesday

2047
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Wednesday show started as well too. So

2048
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: now I'm doing both. Now I'm doing a premier show

2049
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: and I'm doing my show. Maybe within um Adam was

2050
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: pushing me to, like, you know, you should start doing

2051
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: dope stuff, start streaming, start getting into these different type

2052
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 1: of things. I was like, all right, you know I

2053
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: tried to and and and prior to this, I try

2054
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 1: to do Twitch two times and I didn't really get

2055
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: no viewers, you know what I mean. We started off

2056
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: I want to say November two one, Okay, So where

2057
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 1: is the Tuesday show in regards to performance, in regards

2058
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: to who's on the show? When you started Community me

2059
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: house falling at him? So just y'all three? All right,

2060
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 1: So when y'all went when Community starts to tick or

2061
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 1: get it get its legs with ot Genesis, when is

2062
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 1: that moment? Oh no, that's at the end of the

2063
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: days came over. Oh so he came on the No

2064
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: Jumper Show. When did Community get to get his legs? Though?

2065
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: When did? I guess I'm trying to figure out when

2066
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: did it become a threat to Adam because I noticed

2067
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: at one point he was starting to say, look, y'all

2068
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 1: need to stop talking about what happens over here no

2069
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: jumper on your stream. And I came out there and

2070
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you don't find that funny, Like everybody's

2071
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 1: gonna react to what happens that no jumper, Like I

2072
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: didn't really understand that. So I'm trying to figure out

2073
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 1: when he started to feel like a yo, ab is

2074
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 1: starting to be competition. Um. So I would say maybe

2075
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: because I started off just trying to play video games,

2076
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: and um, the people that they just started asking me

2077
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,919
Speaker 1: questions that was happening in the office, Like this wasn't deliberate,

2078
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. People were like, hey, what's

2079
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: going on with this? And I was just talking on it.

2080
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, what happened with this person? I'd

2081
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, this happened, and they ended up like

2082
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: they really started taking taking to it. So you started

2083
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: off with a couple of hundred people, then it started

2084
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: being a thousand, then it started being a couple of thousand,

2085
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: and you know, then I started getting you know, recognition

2086
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 1: from like the DJ academics and other people started tapping in.

2087
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is dope. I never thought about

2088
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: it like taking away from No Jumper. I just thought

2089
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 1: it was a it was a great extension, and you

2090
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: know I thought that, you know, he was he was

2091
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: proud of me because I started coming to the office.

2092
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, bro, this is dope. Like I'm I'm

2093
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm making some great money from this. And and maybe

2094
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 1: within the first two to three months I got I

2095
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: started getting paid more than what I was getting paid

2096
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: to No Jumper. So yeah, so, um, you know, I

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01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: was just really humble with it. I'm just sitting there like, man,

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01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: I think every interview, everything that I'm doing, I'm like, man,

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01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: I think Adam were even pushing me to get to

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01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: this point. Um, I was just I was just always

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01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: showing up like I didn't get it. But eventually, you know, Pulling,

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01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: which is my manager, he started talking on there and

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01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:36,240
Speaker 1: then you know it just started building like a real community,

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01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: and you know, we pushed t Real to start his

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01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: stream shout the back on fed and you know t

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01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Real he was like all right, he you know, he

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. He just kept thinking about it,

2108
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 1: and then eventually he started and then the people start

2109
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: taking to him, Um, one second loan, I'm pulling, I'm

2110
01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: putting it into my garage off aologize. Are you good?

2111
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: So no? So after that, you know, I pushed I

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01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 1: pushed you real so, um, you know in his stream

2113
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 1: and then he started moving and stuff like that, and

2114
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: early on we just really just started supporting to them.

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01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: So you know when he would go on and stuff

2116
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 1: like that. Um, when did you start to feel like Adam?

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01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 1: When did you start to feel like Adam brought up

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01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: that it may be a problem or felt like that

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: it was a recycle of you know, content or an

2120
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: issue At any point when did you feel that? How

2121
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: long has it been since you kind of felt like

2122
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 1: Adam didn't appreciate what was happening on YouTube? UM's it

2123
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: started being just little comments? Has been a year to

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01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 1: eighteen months? Nah, it hasn't even We just hit a

2125
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: year of George community. We um community started in November

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01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one. Uh, yeah, wow, it's probably been

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, it hadn't been. It hasn't even been

2128
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: that long. Community, because I mean I saw him, I

2129
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 1: saw him get a phrase when he was like, yo,

2130
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 1: there there, We're gonna have to have a conversation. You know,

2131
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: they're talking about what's happening on over no jumper. I

2132
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: saw him starting to get a phrase. So you think

2133
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 1: about what six seven months? I honestly like six months

2134
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: in okay? Do you feel like as a business do

2135
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 1: you feel like, um, that Adam could have came to

2136
01:57:32,440 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: you and said, man, um, can we not go over

2137
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: the same topics that we go over on? What? What

2138
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: made you? What? What? What? What make you think that

2139
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: he didn't do that? Why wouldn't he just come say

2140
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: something like that to you? I don't know, honestly, maybe

2141
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he didn't look at it as like, oh,

2142
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: this is Honestly, in my heart believe that he didn't

2143
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: think that it was gonna get to what it was,

2144
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: and you know it was. It was crazy to me

2145
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 1: that that he said is something in a Joe Budden interview.

2146
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't gonna like it kind of hurt

2147
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 1: my feelings. He said. It is a verbatim he said,

2148
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: I knew they were gonna be ambitious, just not that

2149
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: that ambitious. So I'm like, I'm like, damn, if you

2150
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: push me to do something and it ends up being successful, Like,

2151
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: why I would you even feel that way. We're supposed

2152
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 1: to be homeless. You feel right? Do you do you

2153
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: feel like? Do you feel like? Who? Do you feel like?

2154
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 1: It advised him because he said it's been on his

2155
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 1: mind and he wanted to talk. I imagine that Lusciou

2156
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 1: isn't the only person he spoke with. Do you think

2157
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: someone advised him that removing a D is a good

2158
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: idea because I would feel like that you would keep

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01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 1: a D. Nah, I don't even I think I think that, Um,

2160
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: it's crazy because j academics has said this a year ago,

2161
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: not even a year ago, like six seven months ago.

2162
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: He said that the community is growing up. He said,

2163
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: Adam's gonna either have to make a ding partner or

2164
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: he gonna have to fire him, because it's gonna be

2165
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be no in between. And I knew once

2166
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: I was progressing comparisons we're gonna start happening, and the

2167
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: Reddy will talk about so it's a conflict of interests,

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01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 1: and comments will say that thing. And I think that

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01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 1: outside forces and the comments and the Reddit probably probably

2170
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 1: made him feel like, you know, he probably started reading

2171
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 1: into it. Do you think so he's affected by the

2172
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 1: outside entities? He's not really making all the decisions himself.

2173
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 1: The comments kind of he engaged that. It's saying, well,

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01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: this is the audience. Well I think we all are

2175
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. Well, I you know, I'm gonna

2176
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 1: consider the business. I'm gonna consider thing, I'm gonna do,

2177
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: the interviews I want to do. I ain't really gonna

2178
01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: consider what these people talking about. Like even I hear

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01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned in academics, Adam, in my opinion, don't got

2180
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: no business filing academics. Academics ain't done what Adam was doing,

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02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 1: so he can't get no advice from academics. Academics has

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02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: yet to put anyone in position. And I don't say that,

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02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, I say that respectfully. Here you see what

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02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying when I'm even in that sense, I respected

2185
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 1: it because it happened, you know what I'm saying. Yes,

2186
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: and he he he called it out, and you know

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02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: he called it out. The thing being is literally like, yeah,

2188
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:33,840
Speaker 1: when you start seeing what YouTube is really making, when

2189
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 1: you started seeing the situation information, I'm saying, you're getting

2190
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 1: the information you know, as a as a as a

2191
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 1: as a black man, I'm going into this company and

2192
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you know, oh man, this is what I'm

2193
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:50,200
Speaker 1: getting is it's dope because it's it's more than I'm

2194
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:52,160
Speaker 1: used to getting on the regular. But once you get

2195
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 1: behind you know, them cameras and you and you seeing

2196
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 1: the business and you seeing how much money coming in

2197
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: and you see how much you making and seeing out

2198
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: of you know, the algorithm is you seeing these people

2199
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: sitting there throwing stuff at you, You're like, wait a minute,

2200
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: this is a lot more money that you know, if

2201
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 1: I can't imagine on a larger scale how much they

2202
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 1: were doing. So once you get the information, it's gonna

2203
02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:20,840
Speaker 1: make you look at things differently. Like way speaking other

2204
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:25,520
Speaker 1: information that that you received during your own show, do

2205
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 1: you believe that No Jumper with with the shows that

2206
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: you were involved with was losing money because that's been

2207
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: a narrative as well that he was losing money with

2208
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: with with a lot of these shows. Um no, Now,

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02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: if you if you're going by straight YouTube views and

2210
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: everything like that and you have to pay talent, yes

2211
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,360
Speaker 1: you would lose money off of that. But we had

2212
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 1: sponsors and that was usually how you know in some

2213
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 1: of them sponsors. I'm not gonna sit there and put

2214
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: that business out there, but it's large, thousands of dollars

2215
02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 1: of money, you know, I mean, this is good if formation.

2216
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: So this is debunking the narrative of that he was

2217
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 1: could have been losing on this show, because if it's

2218
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 1: a sponsor involved in the show, that's a that's money

2219
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 1: that's floating in the show. That means it has financial backing.

2220
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 1: So I don't see what we lose at So listenally

2221
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 1: like my show right, maybe weekly at best, if we

2222
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:26,919
Speaker 1: ain't cursing it going crazy, it may make a thousand

2223
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 1: dollars maybe fifteen hucks. Right then you got then you

2224
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 1: got then you got four people you bust that there

2225
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. There really ain't no money. I get that,

2226
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 1: and you're paying X, Y and z. But once the

2227
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 1: advertisers come, yeah, that's a big penny. Yes, So we're reading,

2228
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, almost every episode you would see me doing

2229
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: add of reads. You know, some of them adds to

2230
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 1: between grands yea them ads fifteen grand yes, and then

2231
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 1: the fashion over the beginning that's a bag. Oh, it's

2232
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 1: it's it's all, it's all adds. Yes, want to come

2233
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 1: down to I've even bought you know, people that come

2234
02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 1: to bring ads Okay, so you know the saying that, yeah,

2235
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 1: if you sit there and just say YouTube, yeah, you

2236
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 1: lose money on YouTube, but not not when you gotta

2237
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 1: add for our show, that's a good game, and were

2238
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: reading there that that's good good. Yeah. And then he

2239
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:24,000
Speaker 1: also because you know, I remember that Adam, and I'm

2240
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 1: sure at some point I speak to Adam and clarify

2241
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: some of these shit he's talking about. But he said

2242
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 1: he made two hundred thousand a month. So I'm like,

2243
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 1: I on one thing, you say you losing and then

2244
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 1: said two millions. That's right, two million a month. He

2245
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 1: said he made two million a month, So how are

2246
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 1: we losing two millions? Because you know? And then two

2247
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 1: people that I understanding right, Like once again, once you

2248
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 1: get the information, you know what's going on. Right, So, yeah,

2249
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 1: you made that show, may have made without ads a

2250
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 1: couple of hundred bucks, but you shop that that's soon

2251
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 1: to twenty thirty clips, which is another stream of revenue. Yes, yep.

2252
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 1: And then you take some clips and you put them

2253
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: on Facebook and on Instagram, put them on Instagram and

2254
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: on time. Then you put them on so that same

2255
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 1: cutting and servicing multiple times. Yes, by the time that

2256
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: it's all you know, by the time it's all chopped

2257
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 1: up and you, man, you're making some real bread on

2258
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,880
Speaker 1: them exactly. So I think it's so good that we're

2259
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 1: having this conversation, man, because the fans that the consumer

2260
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 1: hit him say that, and you know he was over

2261
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: there with Joe speaking a lot about that, right, and

2262
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: you know they know I give this kind of game

2263
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: out of time. But it's important to understand that this

2264
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: show had ads on it, and that's the business model

2265
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 1: that podcasts usually lived by. Get you some ads, what's

2266
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:52,760
Speaker 1: your CPM, how much are they how much are they

2267
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: paying per thousands and things like that, and then you

2268
02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 1: will be able to get your money like that. I

2269
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:01,040
Speaker 1: think that's so so, so, so so good game. Let's

2270
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,120
Speaker 1: talk about you putting your life on the line, of

2271
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 1: putting your flag on the line, or putting your reputation

2272
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 1: on the line. Um, a couple of instances happen. I

2273
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: believe that white people and black people don't share the

2274
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 1: same like understanding when it comes to how far we're

2275
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 1: willing to go. Right, So for us, we'll lay down

2276
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 1: and die for somebody we love. But but love for

2277
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 1: us mean that much. Right For I think some of

2278
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 1: our Caucasian counterparts. I don't think they see that the same.

2279
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,040
Speaker 1: I think relationships are fickle. I believe Adam to be

2280
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: emotionally unavailable right in a lot of instances. Do you

2281
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 1: do how do you feel, bro? I mean, I know

2282
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:45,200
Speaker 1: you put your life on the line, certain things happened,

2283
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 1: you ran out there. How do you feel about all

2284
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:50,520
Speaker 1: of that? I mean, I get it off of just

2285
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 1: pure love, Bro. It wasn't for no monetary game. There

2286
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 1: wasn't anything. It was just you know, with the thoughts

2287
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 1: of I'm a stand up god. If I focus you

2288
02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 1: and focus your back, I'm with you to the wheels

2289
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 1: fall off. That's the type of person I am real

2290
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like part of the reason

2291
02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 1: why they get hired was because of my street background.

2292
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 1: I tried to the streets and that was also a

2293
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 1: plus and a bonus with with him living in hell

2294
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:19,640
Speaker 1: and you know, doing what he do right makes sense.

2295
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that? Do you think Adams

2296
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 1: was emotionally available? Like? Do you think that he showed

2297
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: you the same love or he cared the same way

2298
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:35,720
Speaker 1: you cared? Um? I would like to believe, so you

2299
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 1: know this, this happens all the time. Man, this ain't

2300
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 1: my first rodeo. You know, you get around people, you

2301
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: show blind loyalty, um they underestimate you, and then you

2302
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: become somebody and then you know the division happens and

2303
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 1: you know what this is. This is just on a

2304
02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 1: larger scale. And some to say that's just the white people.

2305
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:58,520
Speaker 1: I've done this with. I've been like this and all

2306
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: old people. Yeah, for but I know that they know

2307
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 1: they're wrong, right, And what I'm saying for our black

2308
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 1: people when they do us like that, they feel it.

2309
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: They know they're wrong, even if they never say nothing.

2310
02:07:10,120 --> 02:07:13,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes I believe that doing business like I'm doing business

2311
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 1: with all the big companies, and I can tell that

2312
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of them don't have any emotion involved in this.

2313
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 1: It's all numbers, it's all. I don't think that he

2314
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 1: thinks that he did anything wrong, That's what I mean, right,

2315
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 1: So he may be emotionally unavailable in that way where

2316
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 1: it's like I don't see it. I keep fluffing it.

2317
02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 1: And let's get to how you found out right Lush

2318
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 1: was fired on camera. When you've seen lush fire, did

2319
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:42,400
Speaker 1: you already have the information that he was speaking on

2320
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:45,400
Speaker 1: you to Lush or was it after that? Oh that

2321
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 1: so it happened like instantly, So what end up happening

2322
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: was and shout of lust man. Lust is a good guy.

2323
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that you try to cause any arm

2324
02:07:55,720 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Um Lush for his sobriety, he

2325
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, he just has to be real honest and

2326
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:05,040
Speaker 1: he took the getting in and reader and the discord.

2327
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 1: Um Adam had told me, you know, for our friendship,

2328
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 1: I think it's best you don't do the Tuesday show

2329
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 1: no more. I was cool. I was like, yes, it

2330
02:08:14,720 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 1: is what it is, you know, focus on everything else

2331
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 1: to the Wednesday show, in the food show and yeah,

2332
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 1: he asked LUs how he cooked about it. LUs was like,

2333
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 1: you don't think it's a good idea, but you know

2334
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna walk with it. She really told him, Nah,

2335
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: I ain't rocking with it because he ain't rocking. I

2336
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 1: ain't rocking solid and yeah solid superslidum. LUs goes on

2337
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 1: the discord and I think people was like trying to

2338
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:44,520
Speaker 1: I think he said something along the lines and they're

2339
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna be changes that no jumper, and you know, people

2340
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:51,080
Speaker 1: just start fishing around and somehow he said, oh, Hey,

2341
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on the show no more x

2342
02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 1: y z um. It gets back to me and Adam

2343
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, how are you. What's going on. I'm like, listen,

2344
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: I was cool, but ain't the reason why the discord.

2345
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 1: You know what's going on? You seel me? So you

2346
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:10,640
Speaker 1: took the first Yeah, you took it on the chin,

2347
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 1: like I I feel you. I'm still with you, even

2348
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: though I'm making more money on the community, I'm still

2349
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: with you. It's cool. You're gonna take me off now.

2350
02:09:18,640 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 1: Now I'm heading it through Lush and a whole bunch

2351
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:25,760
Speaker 1: of people that we don't know. And so Adam calls

2352
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 1: you you tell him, And I don't appreciate that. Russ

2353
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 1: Lets didn't even tell me the discord. He was saying it,

2354
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 1: and he was talking about it in the discord. That's

2355
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:39,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And a couple of people from Discord,

2356
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, reached out like hey he he and there

2357
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 1: saying x y z x yz okay, okay, okay, And

2358
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, so Adam, you know, he was trying to

2359
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 1: be cool, like what's going on. I'm like, hey, listen,

2360
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was cool until you know, I'm hearing

2361
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: my business out there or the Discord. He's like, what

2362
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 1: you mean you hear to the discord. I'm like, man,

2363
02:10:00,280 --> 02:10:03,840
Speaker 1: check it out. I ain't a rat, but I'm hearing

2364
02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 1: how you really feel about me. So he started fishing, like, hey,

2365
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,040
Speaker 1: what the fuck? He started asking a Discord people, hey,

2366
02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 1: what was said about the ad and they told him like, oh,

2367
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 1: Lush were saying this about him. Lush were saying this.

2368
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:17,480
Speaker 1: So he's like, oh man, my bad man. He's like,

2369
02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 1: I ain't really do this, and I'm like, listen, bro,

2370
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is tell me how you really felt. Yeah,

2371
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 1: like I wasn't tripping. Oh yea do something that you

2372
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 1: really feel. So he was like, look, he didn sense

2373
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 1: me his whole tex strand with Lush and within that

2374
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 1: sex thrand, I'm gonna reading what he's saying. He's saying like,

2375
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 1: oh a D and M's got the whole thing going

2376
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:41,880
Speaker 1: all M. You know, he real might leave too, but

2377
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,839
Speaker 1: I can handle it, you know what I mean? Like basically,

2378
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:49,200
Speaker 1: just what I thought anyway was that, you know, what

2379
02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 1: we were doing was affecting him, right, So when I

2380
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:58,160
Speaker 1: when I read that, he gets mad. He's like, I'm sad.

2381
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 1: That I even gotta do this. Lush is this, and

2382
02:11:00,920 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: then you know, starts talking about Lusten and he goes

2383
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 1: on there as far as Lush, that's what got Lush fire?

2384
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: What what do you think made him come find in lush? Um? Honestly,

2385
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't necessarily even Lush telling me. It

2386
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:20,080
Speaker 1: was that he had to tell me how he honestly

2387
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 1: felt about me, right instead of sugar coding. But I'm

2388
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 1: saying he admitted to speaking with Lush and confidence. I

2389
02:11:28,080 --> 02:11:31,760
Speaker 1: ain't saying that Lush told you. I don't. I don't.

2390
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't get it, though, I don't get why. You know,

2391
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 1: Lush was father relatively new, and I thought that me

2392
02:11:37,680 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 1: and this relationship was, you know, way more closer than theirs.

2393
02:11:40,760 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what was the possessing to go talk

2394
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 1: to us. You know, when I think about it, it's

2395
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,880
Speaker 1: almost like Lush gives off. He kind of disarms you.

2396
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: He kind of gives off this like unconfrontational like vibe.

2397
02:11:53,080 --> 02:11:55,640
Speaker 1: It's like you, you don't give off, you know, you

2398
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 1: give off. I'm a d you know the vibration. You

2399
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 1: know what I am? I I I disagree with you.

2400
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 1: I stand on principle. You know, really you're real, bro. Yeah, yeah,

2401
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna um if you want homeboy, I can

2402
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 1: look past a few things. But you know, if I

2403
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: really feel something in my heart, I feel like it's

2404
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:17,160
Speaker 1: my my you know, if I do my due diligence

2405
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 1: man to keep it real, to tell you how I

2406
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:20,720
Speaker 1: feel to to the people. Did I'm saying, do you

2407
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 1: think that put a wall up? Like for Adam? Yeah,

2408
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 1: because he's may be used to he may be more

2409
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:32,400
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. Yeah. Yeah, certain new woods that he made,

2410
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 1: people are not used to challenge for them because you

2411
02:12:34,840 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 1: know they did depending on that paycheck, right. Because I'm

2412
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 1: sitting there looking at it like, man, listen, yeah, I

2413
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: can sit there and take this ship. Because I ain't

2414
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna talk to me on a nigga back. I'm gonna

2415
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 1: telling how I feel. I'm gonna tell everybody else feel.

2416
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:49,040
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the reason why I think

2417
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 1: with Lush, he felt like he ain't gonna cross me

2418
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 1: because he really need me. He really needed that. He

2419
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't He probably felt like I can talk to him

2420
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:00,240
Speaker 1: on this level for some reason that was kind of interest. Now,

2421
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:06,360
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why he did that. Do you think y'all, yeah, exactly, exactly.

2422
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you got the money, you know you like man.

2423
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 1: Because now he seems to be saying he going a

2424
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 1: different direction? Does that? What does that mean to you?

2425
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:21,760
Speaker 1: When he says he's going a different direction, that's weird. Yeah,

2426
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's weird. That's weird. Do you think he'll be

2427
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 1: able to survive like that? Yeah, you're right, he said,

2428
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: do it come natural? That makes sense? He seems to. Um,

2429
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 1: and I'll get a few more questions to you. He

2430
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:44,240
Speaker 1: seems to say that your situation or not even him.

2431
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 1: There's been a narrative out there that says, y'all situation

2432
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:51,280
Speaker 1: kind of nearest Rory and Malls situation. Do you agree

2433
02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:56,880
Speaker 1: with that? Um, I'm gonna say no because I don't.

2434
02:13:57,000 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 1: For one, I don't even know what happened with this situation. Really,

2435
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,080
Speaker 1: this wasn't over money when it came down to me,

2436
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I think. It is this style

2437
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 1: differences or something right for you, it's betrayal for Adamant

2438
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:13,760
Speaker 1: with style differences to him just not knowing what to say.

2439
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't get what his issue was, But for you,

2440
02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 1: it's like damn Bro, you said that. That's why I get.

2441
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 1: I get the issue it was. You know, we became,

2442
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 1: like he said, with your he didn't know he was

2443
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:29,320
Speaker 1: that ambitious. And by the time that he can, you know,

2444
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:32,879
Speaker 1: see what was going on. He didn't have a contracts

2445
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:34,920
Speaker 1: on this, and he couldn't stop it, right, And I

2446
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:38,080
Speaker 1: know that part I'm saying why he couldn't. These dudes

2447
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 1: must not be like for me, Bro, I come from

2448
02:14:40,800 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 1: the streets, So you gotta learn how to deal with people, right.

2449
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:46,320
Speaker 1: You gotta learn how to kind of manage if you're

2450
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:49,560
Speaker 1: a boss. So it's like, I feel like he should

2451
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:52,040
Speaker 1: have had an approach to be able to manage that,

2452
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 1: to figure way to eat with y'all, some kind of

2453
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,400
Speaker 1: how man something instead of we were either we wouldn't

2454
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 1: even be doing right now if he didn't tell us too.

2455
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 1: And honestly, if he said, hey, this is working, I'll

2456
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 1: pay you guys to put on it own. We want

2457
02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 1: to get it. See what I'm saying, it's just matter

2458
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 1: of a conversation. Does it matter a conversation? I truly

2459
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:19,520
Speaker 1: believe that it's difference, you know, between you and you

2460
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:23,080
Speaker 1: guys and Rory and mall hot Trail feeling. Are you afraid,

2461
02:15:23,200 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 1: do you feel scared? Do you feel paring or any

2462
02:15:25,960 --> 02:15:30,000
Speaker 1: butterflies in your stomach? Tell no, we just sold out

2463
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,520
Speaker 1: the air rang six hours to two sold down shows.

2464
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 1: We have to do. We have to blow the November

2465
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:38,280
Speaker 1: as well too. We got more shows on the horizon.

2466
02:15:38,800 --> 02:15:40,840
Speaker 1: You're getting a lot of support from the people. Then

2467
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:43,440
Speaker 1: some of the some of the biggest people in podcasts

2468
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 1: of reaching out and talking to us and trying to

2469
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:47,520
Speaker 1: figure out what we want to do. So we know

2470
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,160
Speaker 1: we're in a good situation. We got a lot of

2471
02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 1: leverage right now. Yeah, for sure. You know, and I'm

2472
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 1: on y'all line. You know, your boy Joe button but

2473
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 1: put it out on page tron and you know they

2474
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 1: say certain things, right I'm just shaking up podcasts and

2475
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm bringing information and that and that kind of talk talk.

2476
02:16:12,560 --> 02:16:18,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, brother, I appreciate because but um, I

2477
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you stopping bad man. Like I say, if y'all

2478
02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:24,120
Speaker 1: go live or something, hit me, man, I joined talk

2479
02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: to you talk this. I need to high lea t reel.

2480
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:33,720
Speaker 1: I think y'all gonna do great things in the market, Brod,

2481
02:16:34,840 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 1: that's what's up man. You have a good day. I

2482
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 1: reach back to you, you too, brother. All right, let's

2483
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 1: talk about Job Morant. I'm sure unless you've been living

2484
02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:55,480
Speaker 1: under rock, you are aware of Job Morant, NBA superstar

2485
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:58,120
Speaker 1: of the Memphis Gridgelies, twenty three years old, was just

2486
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:01,240
Speaker 1: going through a few as over the last five or

2487
02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:06,360
Speaker 1: six weeks, may some unfortunate decisions and placed himself in

2488
02:17:06,440 --> 02:17:10,040
Speaker 1: the trick bag. We see him try to clean that up, right,

2489
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:13,520
Speaker 1: so he checked itself into rehab. He was self flashing

2490
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:17,400
Speaker 1: a gun on Instagram live everybody in the culture in

2491
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,600
Speaker 1: the world. And I'm sure his family acknowledged that it's

2492
02:17:20,640 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 1: being a mistake, and even he's acknowledged that it's being

2493
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 1: a mistake. I cited. Hopefully he's not at war with

2494
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:30,640
Speaker 1: his self thinking that the environment that he's created, he's

2495
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the reality of it. Right, And so now

2496
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:35,640
Speaker 1: you want to try to protect yourself from what you

2497
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:38,280
Speaker 1: think is coming. You don't have any information, really, so

2498
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:41,920
Speaker 1: you may not know what's coming, right, And so sometimes

2499
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:45,400
Speaker 1: that creates a paranoia, that creates a circumstance that you

2500
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 1: gotta buy by. And those on the outside of that

2501
02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:53,039
Speaker 1: may not understand that he may not understand that that's

2502
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 1: me speaking in my thirties, right, So I'm looking back

2503
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:59,760
Speaker 1: at it now. He disappeared for a while, checked itself

2504
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:06,040
Speaker 1: in rehab release. Some statements seem to be very apologetic

2505
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:11,280
Speaker 1: to all the brain partnerships he has, right, and he

2506
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 1: came out and sat with Jalen Rose. Let's take a

2507
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 1: look at a little bit of that interview and we'll

2508
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 1: come back with some commentary. In a lot of ways,

2509
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:20,960
Speaker 1: these are your staff and employees because you're trying to

2510
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:23,720
Speaker 1: put everybody on and you're trying to put everybody in

2511
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:26,520
Speaker 1: position to be successful because they help you become who

2512
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:30,640
Speaker 1: you are. So I know it's tough to figure out

2513
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:36,000
Speaker 1: professionally who can roll with me and who I need

2514
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:38,960
Speaker 1: to leave behind in order to chase my goals. So

2515
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:42,720
Speaker 1: for you, what has it been like for you over

2516
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:45,600
Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks and how has it been

2517
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:48,120
Speaker 1: for you to make tough decisions about who you rolling

2518
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:51,800
Speaker 1: with as it relates to your inner circle. This definitely

2519
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:53,840
Speaker 1: has been tough because you know, I'm big on loyalty,

2520
02:18:53,959 --> 02:18:56,920
Speaker 1: but you know, I had, like I said, after, you know,

2521
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,160
Speaker 1: be there for myself, after you know, put myself in

2522
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:01,360
Speaker 1: good positions so you know I have to you know,

2523
02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:04,200
Speaker 1: find out you know, who's really for me and who's

2524
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:06,400
Speaker 1: going to help me, you know, being good positions at

2525
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,840
Speaker 1: all times. Um, And you know that's the decisions I

2526
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:12,120
Speaker 1: have to make, you know, decisions. You know I felt

2527
02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:15,560
Speaker 1: good about and very comfortable about that. You know, I'm

2528
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:18,960
Speaker 1: being a positive you know light now with everything you

2529
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,920
Speaker 1: know that I made, um, everything that I've learned, UM,

2530
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 1: in my two weeks who talked about going live, But

2531
02:19:24,959 --> 02:19:27,520
Speaker 1: it's also in the news that Adam Silver that you

2532
02:19:27,640 --> 02:19:30,440
Speaker 1: met with him today and he suspended you for eight

2533
02:19:30,560 --> 02:19:35,920
Speaker 1: games for conduct detrimental to the league. What was that meeting? Like? Um,

2534
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,320
Speaker 1: it was good, UM, pretty much you know, open discussion obviously,

2535
02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:42,160
Speaker 1: you know he said, UM, you know things you know

2536
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I need to you know, be better at. But you

2537
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:47,520
Speaker 1: know more of just you know, showing his support towards me. Um,

2538
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I sept it out and you know

2539
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 1: I also you know, sent my apologies you know to

2540
02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:54,760
Speaker 1: everybody you know the league, you know, myself, my teammates,

2541
02:19:55,280 --> 02:20:00,240
Speaker 1: my family for you know, putting that negative negativity towards arts,

2542
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, all of us with a you know, bad decision.

2543
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:07,720
Speaker 1: What were you thinking? And feeling at that moment when

2544
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:11,600
Speaker 1: you decided to go live, did you realize that you

2545
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:13,880
Speaker 1: was going live? Did you think that you were just

2546
02:20:14,040 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 1: recording what was your state of mind at that point,

2547
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:23,720
Speaker 1: pretty much just trying to be free. No, I use

2548
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 1: that as an escape, which I shouldn't have. And I

2549
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 1: feel like that's the reason. You know, I made many,

2550
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, bad decisions. You know in my past, which

2551
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:37,920
Speaker 1: doesn't know pretty much describes me, does and describe Jaw

2552
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:40,480
Speaker 1: as a person. You know, I'm totally a different person,

2553
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:43,000
Speaker 1: you know than what's been shown you know, in the media.

2554
02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:45,920
Speaker 1: And you know that's my job. Now, that's why I

2555
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:48,520
Speaker 1: took that time away to you know, become a better job.

2556
02:20:48,640 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 1: So everybody really can you know, see who jab really

2557
02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:55,280
Speaker 1: is and you know what he's about. Absolutely, you were

2558
02:20:55,360 --> 02:21:01,440
Speaker 1: holding a gun and we both know how dangerous that

2559
02:21:01,640 --> 02:21:06,040
Speaker 1: can be. Who's gun where you holding? You know the

2560
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 1: gun wasn't mind. Um, you know, it's not who I am.

2561
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't condone and any type of violence, but I

2562
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:16,920
Speaker 1: take you know, full responsibility, you know from my actions,

2563
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:21,960
Speaker 1: made a bad mistake. Um, And I can see the

2564
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:25,199
Speaker 1: image you know that I painted, you know over myself.

2565
02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, with my recent mistakes. But you know, in

2566
02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 1: the future, UM, I'm gonna show everybody who John really is.

2567
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:36,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm about, and UM, you know, change

2568
02:21:36,040 --> 02:21:38,520
Speaker 1: its narrative that you know, everybody got painted over me

2569
02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 1: and you know how this works. So now when the

2570
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:45,200
Speaker 1: IG Live video happens and the public sees you with

2571
02:21:45,320 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 1: the gun, now they go back and dig up everything

2572
02:21:48,480 --> 02:21:50,960
Speaker 1: that they feel like has been attached to your name

2573
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 1: over the last couplese Hair to look like sprayed on

2574
02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know what's going on out the

2575
02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:04,440
Speaker 1: jailing real one, but it seemed like that black it's

2576
02:22:04,440 --> 02:22:07,040
Speaker 1: a little too black or something. I might be tripping

2577
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 1: and somebody was allegedly pointing a red dot at some

2578
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 1: of their personnel. Can you share light and what happened

2579
02:22:13,560 --> 02:22:17,000
Speaker 1: after that game? Um? Majority of the things you know

2580
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:20,959
Speaker 1: that's happened in the past, obviously, you know, I kind

2581
02:22:20,959 --> 02:22:24,920
Speaker 1: of put myself into um by even being there. Um,

2582
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:29,200
Speaker 1: But all the incidents you've seen recently, UM, most of

2583
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:33,440
Speaker 1: them is a line. You know. I can't speak too much,

2584
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, on those situations because all of them are sealed,

2585
02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:39,560
Speaker 1: And UM, I really can't wait to be able to

2586
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, finally tell the truth. But you know what

2587
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:44,680
Speaker 1: I can say is you know, like I said before,

2588
02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:47,720
Speaker 1: you know, none of those are my character. And um,

2589
02:22:48,400 --> 02:22:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm a big family guy, always care for my family.

2590
02:22:51,320 --> 02:22:54,320
Speaker 1: So it was just me you know, checking out my

2591
02:22:54,400 --> 02:22:57,200
Speaker 1: family safety. Once my family you know, was safe, UM,

2592
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I left the scene. UM. Honestly, you know, I feel

2593
02:23:00,959 --> 02:23:04,080
Speaker 1: like we put ourselves in you know, that situation with

2594
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, our past mistakes. UM, and now it's only

2595
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 1: right that you know, we we focus in and lock

2596
02:23:10,959 --> 02:23:14,440
Speaker 1: in on, you know, being smarter and more responsible, holding

2597
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 1: each other accountable, you know for everything. I feel like

2598
02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:19,360
Speaker 1: in the past we didn't we didn't know what was

2599
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:22,880
Speaker 1: at state. And now you know, finally me having that time,

2600
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:27,200
Speaker 1: UM to you know, realize everything, have that time alone. UM,

2601
02:23:27,360 --> 02:23:29,520
Speaker 1: I realize that now I realize, you know, what I

2602
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,720
Speaker 1: have to lose and you know, for us as a group,

2603
02:23:31,800 --> 02:23:34,320
Speaker 1: where we have to lose. And UM, it's print was

2604
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:36,959
Speaker 1: just just that, you know, being more responsible, more smarter,

2605
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:40,400
Speaker 1: and UM stand away from you know, all the bad

2606
02:23:40,480 --> 02:23:43,120
Speaker 1: decisions when you see somebody back and make a bad decision,

2607
02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:47,960
Speaker 1: stop them, dude. Everything that we do, including our handshakes.

2608
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:50,880
Speaker 1: So now people going back to looking footage. Is you

2609
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,200
Speaker 1: on the floor and they're like, wait a minute, it's

2610
02:23:53,320 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 1: John affiliated? Is he throwing up gang signs? Can you

2611
02:23:56,920 --> 02:24:01,240
Speaker 1: address some of those naysayers who are trying to portray

2612
02:24:01,360 --> 02:24:03,880
Speaker 1: you in that light. I feel like once again, my

2613
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:07,320
Speaker 1: decisions you know, pretty much led to that and now

2614
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:10,320
Speaker 1: with the you know, past decisions I made and you

2615
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:13,520
Speaker 1: know what's going on now, Um, they try to find

2616
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much anything on me, and you know

2617
02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 1: I put myself in those situations. No, I'm not affiliated

2618
02:24:18,760 --> 02:24:21,600
Speaker 1: with any game. Like I said before, I don't condone it,

2619
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, any type of violence, and it's just pretty

2620
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:28,080
Speaker 1: much on me to you know, now from now on,

2621
02:24:28,920 --> 02:24:31,080
Speaker 1: UM to you know, be a better John. You know,

2622
02:24:31,320 --> 02:24:35,560
Speaker 1: stop that narrative. What is this last years? I think

2623
02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 1: job you know, with some of these talking points, because

2624
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:41,960
Speaker 1: he's clearly been advised. But I want joll to know

2625
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 1: because so many people are you know, gonna come out

2626
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:49,000
Speaker 1: and criticize him always publiciz NBA marketing and all of that.

2627
02:24:49,480 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 1: If you came out there and you just wasn't advised,

2628
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:55,280
Speaker 1: they would criticize you even more. They would say, Oh,

2629
02:24:55,360 --> 02:24:57,960
Speaker 1: he's the dumbest moth world. He come out there and

2630
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:01,000
Speaker 1: nobody advised him what to say. He just talking willy nilly.

2631
02:25:01,360 --> 02:25:03,600
Speaker 1: So you did right by speaking with someone and not

2632
02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:06,720
Speaker 1: just coming out willy nilly up to the internet with

2633
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 1: such gravity attached to your situation. That's number one. Number two.

2634
02:25:10,600 --> 02:25:14,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm not sure if it has always revealed

2635
02:25:14,200 --> 02:25:17,480
Speaker 1: itself to him, but I do think he recognizes what

2636
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 1: said stake right, and I do think he knows, oh,

2637
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:24,320
Speaker 1: I went in the trick bag. I'm coming about the

2638
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:26,480
Speaker 1: trick bag. They head in the trick bag and then

2639
02:25:26,520 --> 02:25:29,920
Speaker 1: they're looking in paint put together like a'll that it's

2640
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:31,800
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm in the trick bag. I gotta

2641
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:33,920
Speaker 1: get out the trick bag. Too much money at steak.

2642
02:25:34,040 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 1: I do believe he thinks that. Another thing Guy took

2643
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:42,119
Speaker 1: from this interview was clearly he understands that his team

2644
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:44,880
Speaker 1: is not the problem. I think that he knows that, no,

2645
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 1: it's really my decisions. Because if you him speak about

2646
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:50,440
Speaker 1: his team, he never says like they got me in this,

2647
02:25:50,600 --> 02:25:53,039
Speaker 1: so they made me or these guys around me. It's

2648
02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:55,800
Speaker 1: like he probably know like now they probably won't the

2649
02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:59,520
Speaker 1: best for me, and so he's sticking with his team.

2650
02:26:00,879 --> 02:26:03,160
Speaker 1: I think that was time to hustle for job. There's

2651
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:06,400
Speaker 1: nothing better than a comeback story, right, And he didn't

2652
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:10,240
Speaker 1: really fumble to a punt where you know he can't recover.

2653
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 1: He can easily recover and be okay. So I think

2654
02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:17,040
Speaker 1: he'll be okay. He'll be back. He'll be back in

2655
02:26:17,160 --> 02:26:19,480
Speaker 1: time for the playoffs. Come out, be dynamic and the

2656
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs and do his stay. John Moran is twenty

2657
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:25,880
Speaker 1: three years old. I want us to give grace as

2658
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:29,440
Speaker 1: we understand that age identifies how much experience we have

2659
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:33,000
Speaker 1: with human beings and with this world. And I think

2660
02:26:33,040 --> 02:26:35,320
Speaker 1: if we don't lend each other grace, and they don't

2661
02:26:35,360 --> 02:26:37,920
Speaker 1: see us lend each other grace, they definitely gonna have

2662
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:42,200
Speaker 1: a time with us. So learn from my mistakes though

2663
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 1: important important information. Thinking about job Moran, I thought about

2664
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:50,840
Speaker 1: how many other dudes may have did something on camera

2665
02:26:50,920 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 1: that was athletes, that was that was took away by

2666
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:56,280
Speaker 1: the media and by the organization and by the industry

2667
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:59,080
Speaker 1: right that may could have affected their career one way

2668
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:02,560
Speaker 1: or another. Let's take a look at number ten, Ryan

2669
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 1: lochte While Michael Phelps was getting all the attention for

2670
02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:12,800
Speaker 1: his dominance, Ryan lochtey was right behind him, carving out

2671
02:27:12,840 --> 02:27:15,800
Speaker 1: his own legacy. But then the twenty sixteen Summer Olympics

2672
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 1: happened in Rio de Janeira, Brazil. Locktee, along with three

2673
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:21,160
Speaker 1: other members of the USA swimming team, announced they had

2674
02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:23,720
Speaker 1: been robbed. Oh you say. The swimmers kicked down the door,

2675
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:27,800
Speaker 1: then vandalized the bathroom inside. Then those four swimmers continued

2676
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:30,400
Speaker 1: down here, back towards their taxi, and at this point

2677
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:33,640
Speaker 1: they allegedly ripped a poster off the wall before being

2678
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:38,000
Speaker 1: confronted by those security guards. However, inconsistencies in Lochte's story

2679
02:27:38,120 --> 02:27:40,360
Speaker 1: soon emerged. In the end, it turned out he had lied.

2680
02:27:40,480 --> 02:27:43,040
Speaker 1: They had actually gotten drunk and vandalized the bathroom at

2681
02:27:43,080 --> 02:27:45,560
Speaker 1: a gas station. The first version of the story, you told, Ryan,

2682
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:49,080
Speaker 1: was much more about the mean streets of Rio. Yeah,

2683
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:52,640
Speaker 1: And the version we're hearing now is much more about

2684
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:58,320
Speaker 1: a negotiated settlement to cover up some dumb behavior. And

2685
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,840
Speaker 1: that's why I'm taking full responsibility for. Afterward they were

2686
02:28:02,879 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 1: confronted to pay for the destruction. Lockedey was barred from

2687
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:08,120
Speaker 1: competing for ten months and he was dropped by sponsors,

2688
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:11,720
Speaker 1: while the other athletes received a four month suspension. This incident,

2689
02:28:11,800 --> 02:28:14,760
Speaker 1: plus a doping scandal in twenty eighteen, resulted in Lockede

2690
02:28:14,840 --> 02:28:18,480
Speaker 1: struggling to return to his former glory. I take full responsibility.

2691
02:28:18,520 --> 02:28:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm a human. I made a mistake, a very big mistake,

2692
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,720
Speaker 1: and it's something that I learned from and I know

2693
02:28:25,040 --> 02:28:28,480
Speaker 1: that that will never happen again. Number nine Greg Hardy

2694
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:32,840
Speaker 1: correctly cowboars. Hardy was living the dream as a Carolina

2695
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Panther's defensive end, receiving praise from all sides of the

2696
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:38,760
Speaker 1: NFL for his amazing work, but during the offseason in

2697
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:41,520
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, the wheels came off his rise to start

2698
02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:44,040
Speaker 1: him when he was accused of assaulting his then girlfriend.

2699
02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Hardy was initially found guilty of assault, but the case

2700
02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 1: was ultimately dismissed on appeal because his former partner largely

2701
02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:52,640
Speaker 1: went quiet. Needless to say, people were far from happy

2702
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:54,640
Speaker 1: that he was still in the league Following this, just

2703
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:57,520
Speaker 1: when I begin to think the Cowboys can't possibly sink

2704
02:28:57,560 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 1: any lower, they can't fall from grace any more than

2705
02:28:59,879 --> 02:29:02,520
Speaker 1: they have, they find another shovel and dig a few

2706
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:05,760
Speaker 1: feet deeper. After attempting a football comeback with the Dallas

2707
02:29:05,800 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys in twenty fifteen, party switched sports and began an

2708
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:13,640
Speaker 1: MMA career. Number eight, Johnny Manzell. I can't here. He's

2709
02:29:13,680 --> 02:29:17,520
Speaker 1: too much money in mine. You expect someone named Johnny

2710
02:29:17,560 --> 02:29:19,640
Speaker 1: football to do big things in the NFL, but this

2711
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:22,360
Speaker 1: athlete's personal life and excessive amounts of party and got

2712
02:29:22,480 --> 02:29:24,320
Speaker 1: in the way. While he had some run ins with

2713
02:29:24,440 --> 02:29:26,959
Speaker 1: the police in his college days, the quarterback was drafted

2714
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:30,439
Speaker 1: by the Cleveland Browns in twenty fourteen, but Manzell's excessive

2715
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:33,320
Speaker 1: behavior off the field continued. In twenty fifteen, he was

2716
02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:34,960
Speaker 1: pulled over for a fight in the car with his

2717
02:29:35,080 --> 02:29:37,560
Speaker 1: partner while he had been drinking. The officers believed he

2718
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:40,000
Speaker 1: was under the legal limit and nothing came of the incident,

2719
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,760
Speaker 1: but subsequent dishonest behavior, combined with a domestic violence charge,

2720
02:29:43,959 --> 02:29:47,119
Speaker 1: led to Cleveland cutting him in twenty sixteen. Over shadowing

2721
02:29:47,160 --> 02:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Manziell's brief pro career his actions off the field. He

2722
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:53,320
Speaker 1: spent ten weeks in a drug and alcohol treatment facility

2723
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:56,320
Speaker 1: after his rookie season, though the case was dropped in

2724
02:29:56,400 --> 02:29:59,920
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen after Manzell agreed to counseling. Manzell hasn't played

2725
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 1: in an NFL game since, but at the end of

2726
02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:05,879
Speaker 1: the day, it's to be seen. I'm still moving forward.

2727
02:30:05,879 --> 02:30:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm still doing what I had, little meticulous things that

2728
02:30:08,320 --> 02:30:09,959
Speaker 1: I have to do on a daily basis to try

2729
02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 1: and keep this right over anything else is what means

2730
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:16,480
Speaker 1: the most to meet Number seven, Aaron Hernandez. When this

2731
02:30:16,640 --> 02:30:19,480
Speaker 1: day began, Aaron Hernandez was a New England Patriots type,

2732
02:30:22,240 --> 02:30:24,320
Speaker 1: being an All American when he was in Florida. People

2733
02:30:24,360 --> 02:30:26,760
Speaker 1: had high expectations for Hernandez when he signed with the

2734
02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:28,920
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, and he was on course to be

2735
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:31,440
Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends around, despite being caught

2736
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:34,240
Speaker 1: in various up marful situations over the years. But then

2737
02:30:34,280 --> 02:30:37,200
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, Hernandez was taken into custody for ending

2738
02:30:37,280 --> 02:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Odin Lloyd's life, resulting in the Patriots cutting ties with him.

2739
02:30:40,440 --> 02:30:43,879
Speaker 1: Friends say the two men would often hang out, sometimes

2740
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:48,640
Speaker 1: even talk football, but prosecutors say something went wrong, shifting

2741
02:30:48,720 --> 02:30:52,080
Speaker 1: their bond from cordial to fatal. In twenty fifteen, he

2742
02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:55,080
Speaker 1: received a life sentence without parole. Then in twenty seventeen,

2743
02:30:55,120 --> 02:30:57,879
Speaker 1: Hernandez stood trial for the twenty twelve deaths of Daniel

2744
02:30:57,959 --> 02:31:01,640
Speaker 1: Day Brayu and Sophia Vertado. He was deemed innocent. However,

2745
02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:03,720
Speaker 1: he passed away in jail just a few days later,

2746
02:31:04,040 --> 02:31:07,840
Speaker 1: having taken his own life. A sad and surprising twist

2747
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:12,119
Speaker 1: in a once promising young life that went horribly awry.

2748
02:31:12,720 --> 02:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Number six Lamar Odom a black fold him thanks it off,

2749
02:31:17,360 --> 02:31:19,920
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah cord. Described as a team player

2750
02:31:19,959 --> 02:31:22,240
Speaker 1: with a great attitude. Odom was part of the dominant

2751
02:31:22,360 --> 02:31:24,800
Speaker 1: La Lakers for part of the two thousands, and became

2752
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:27,640
Speaker 1: even more well known after his marriage to Chloe Kardashian.

2753
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:37,520
Speaker 1: From this day forward, you are husband and wife. However,

2754
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:40,480
Speaker 1: substance use affected the basketball star's career, and soon it

2755
02:31:40,520 --> 02:31:44,840
Speaker 1: became impossible to ignore how would go away. In twenty thirteen,

2756
02:31:44,879 --> 02:31:47,680
Speaker 1: he was arrested for impaired driving. Two years later, things

2757
02:31:47,720 --> 02:31:50,120
Speaker 1: reached a boiling point. He was found in a coma

2758
02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:53,359
Speaker 1: and Nevada with various illicit substances in his system, resulting

2759
02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:56,480
Speaker 1: in several heart attacks and strokes, among other things. Authorities

2760
02:31:56,520 --> 02:31:59,400
Speaker 1: originally planned to airlift him, but the County Sheriff's office

2761
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:02,080
Speaker 1: said that it's six foot ten Oldom was too tall

2762
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:04,959
Speaker 1: to be transported by helicopter. While it was a long

2763
02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:07,960
Speaker 1: road to recovery from this near death experience. Odom regained

2764
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 1: his health, but admitted that his drug use cut his

2765
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:14,400
Speaker 1: basketball career short prematurely. Could you even fathom what your

2766
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:16,840
Speaker 1: body had been through? No, I mean I really still can't,

2767
02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:20,520
Speaker 1: am on, Doctor Samuel Walker. Miracle number five, Michael Vick,

2768
02:32:21,040 --> 02:32:23,960
Speaker 1: this Atlanta Falcons quarterback was making waves and looked set

2769
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:26,120
Speaker 1: to have a legendary career in the NFL. It was

2770
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:28,480
Speaker 1: like having Barry send us back there as a quarterback,

2771
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 1: the most dynamic half letty quarterback that there ever was.

2772
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:42,200
Speaker 1: That changed drastically in two thousand and seven, when a

2773
02:32:42,280 --> 02:32:45,240
Speaker 1: disturbing story emerged. One of his properties in Virginia was

2774
02:32:45,280 --> 02:32:47,880
Speaker 1: found to have hosted dog fighting. He and some others

2775
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 1: had been leading this ring and engaging an animal mistreatment

2776
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:52,960
Speaker 1: since back in two thousand and one. Collective picture was

2777
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:57,040
Speaker 1: a very bad one. There were tremendous concerns on my

2778
02:32:57,200 --> 02:33:00,440
Speaker 1: part about the severity of the crime, the effect on

2779
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:03,240
Speaker 1: the animals, as well as the attitude of the individuals

2780
02:33:03,320 --> 02:33:06,480
Speaker 1: involved in this operation. One NFL suspension and a guilty

2781
02:33:06,520 --> 02:33:08,959
Speaker 1: plea later, he began serving jail time. First, I want

2782
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:13,920
Speaker 1: to apologize. Look for all the things that that I've

2783
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 1: done and that I have allowed to happen, so I

2784
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:25,160
Speaker 1: would redeem myself. I have to thank upon release. He

2785
02:33:25,280 --> 02:33:27,800
Speaker 1: began playing for the Philadelphia Eagles in two thousand and nine,

2786
02:33:27,959 --> 02:33:31,080
Speaker 1: but his reputation never really recovered from the horrific scandal

2787
02:33:31,640 --> 02:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Number four Ray Rice. After signing a hafty five year

2788
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 1: contract and winning the Super Bowl with the Baltimore Ravens,

2789
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:39,880
Speaker 1: life was pretty good for this running back. Oh at

2790
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 1: least that's what it looked like on the surface. In

2791
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:44,600
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, he and his partner Janney Palmer were visiting

2792
02:33:44,640 --> 02:33:47,720
Speaker 1: New Jersey's Rebel Casino. The two got into an intense dispute,

2793
02:33:47,720 --> 02:33:50,280
Speaker 1: which culminated in him assaulting her, much of which was

2794
02:33:50,360 --> 02:33:52,720
Speaker 1: caught on tape. Her pain is my pain, My pain

2795
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:55,840
Speaker 1: is her pain. But one thing that I wanted to

2796
02:33:55,879 --> 02:34:00,720
Speaker 1: do today was, you know, apologize to my wife I've

2797
02:34:00,840 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 1: known since high school. But since the athlete took part

2798
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:06,080
Speaker 1: in a pre trial intervention program, the case was ultimately

2799
02:34:06,120 --> 02:34:09,000
Speaker 1: thrown out. Rice had been penalized already. He was charged

2800
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:11,680
Speaker 1: with assault back when it happened, but avoided jail time

2801
02:34:11,720 --> 02:34:15,480
Speaker 1: by striking a deal in the NFL. Initially suspended him

2802
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:18,320
Speaker 1: for two games. When he was later suspended indefinitely and

2803
02:34:18,400 --> 02:34:20,920
Speaker 1: released by his team, the NFL Stars sued the Ravens

2804
02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:25,320
Speaker 1: for backpay. By early afternoon, the Ravens had terminated Rice's contract,

2805
02:34:25,840 --> 02:34:30,199
Speaker 1: the NFL suspending him indefinitely. The question for many tonight

2806
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:32,840
Speaker 1: what took so long? The case was settled out of

2807
02:34:32,879 --> 02:34:35,039
Speaker 1: court in twenty fifteen, and Rice hasn't played in pro

2808
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:38,600
Speaker 1: football since. I went fully forward with it. I never

2809
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,400
Speaker 1: complained or I never did anything like that. I took

2810
02:34:41,480 --> 02:34:45,199
Speaker 1: full responsibility for everything that I did. Number Three Tanya Harding.

2811
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:48,080
Speaker 1: She was the first American woman to nail a triple

2812
02:34:48,160 --> 02:34:58,080
Speaker 1: axcellent a professional? Was she getting competition? Yet? Harding's career

2813
02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:01,520
Speaker 1: took an infamous nose dive in nineteen four, Nancy Kerrigan,

2814
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 1: a competitor of hers, was violently struck on the knees

2815
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:11,360
Speaker 1: and left injured. It was subsequently revealed that Harding's acts,

2816
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Galuley, and her bodyguard Shawn Eckert, had planned the affair,

2817
02:35:15,080 --> 02:35:17,760
Speaker 1: getting two men to carry out their plan. Still, Harding,

2818
02:35:17,800 --> 02:35:20,680
Speaker 1: who maintained her innocence, was controversially added to the USA

2819
02:35:20,760 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 1: team for the nineteen ninety four Winter Olympics alongside Kerrigan.

2820
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Later on, Harding admitted to obstructing justice. In addition to

2821
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:30,760
Speaker 1: receiving probation time and a substantial fine, she was permanently

2822
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:33,720
Speaker 1: barred from practicing her sport competitively by the US Figure

2823
02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:37,360
Speaker 1: Skating Association. I mean she's moved on. I've moved on.

2824
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:40,640
Speaker 1: It's part of history that will always be with us.

2825
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:44,160
Speaker 1: But I'm also noted as the one and only American

2826
02:35:44,200 --> 02:35:48,320
Speaker 1: woman that did the first triple axel number two. Oscar Pistorius.

2827
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:50,960
Speaker 1: There was a time when Pistorius was among the most

2828
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:54,600
Speaker 1: famous Paralympic sprinters around, a disabled person running with able

2829
02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:58,880
Speaker 1: bodied athletes on the biggest stige in the world, incredible oscars,

2830
02:35:58,920 --> 02:36:06,240
Speaker 1: really big global terms. All that changed after he attacked

2831
02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:08,400
Speaker 1: who he thought was a criminal in his house. The

2832
02:36:08,560 --> 02:36:12,119
Speaker 1: victim was actually his partner, Reva Standcup. He's effectively admitting

2833
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 1: he shot an innocent person. I put you in a

2834
02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:17,480
Speaker 1: tough spot legally. I've got to believe that his best

2835
02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:21,560
Speaker 1: hope is for a lesser charge rather than an all

2836
02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:24,680
Speaker 1: out not guilty verdict. The South African sprinter was set

2837
02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:27,080
Speaker 1: to spend five years in jail as a result. The

2838
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:29,960
Speaker 1: original conviction was then overturned in favor of a more

2839
02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:33,320
Speaker 1: serious charge. The accuses punished himself and will punish himself

2840
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:36,160
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life, far more than any

2841
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:39,720
Speaker 1: could rule can punishing. Though his prison term this time

2842
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:42,720
Speaker 1: around was a year longer, prosecutors still didn't believe that

2843
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:45,280
Speaker 1: was enough and appealed once more. They were successful in

2844
02:36:45,320 --> 02:36:48,440
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, as pastorius sentence was more than doubled to

2845
02:36:48,600 --> 02:36:52,280
Speaker 1: thirteen years and five months. The stories has now got

2846
02:36:52,360 --> 02:36:56,240
Speaker 1: the minimum sentence for murder. Before we continue, be sure

2847
02:36:56,280 --> 02:36:58,320
Speaker 1: to subscribe to our channel and ring the bell to

2848
02:36:58,360 --> 02:37:01,200
Speaker 1: get notified about our latest video. You have the option

2849
02:37:01,280 --> 02:37:04,040
Speaker 1: to be notified for occasional videos or all of them.

2850
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:06,400
Speaker 1: If you're on your phone, make sure you go into

2851
02:37:06,440 --> 02:37:12,279
Speaker 1: your settings and switch on notifications Number one. O. J. Simpson.

2852
02:37:12,879 --> 02:37:15,360
Speaker 1: The world watched as Simpson ran away from the police

2853
02:37:15,400 --> 02:37:17,360
Speaker 1: in a Ford Bronco and was then acquitted of the

2854
02:37:17,400 --> 02:37:20,280
Speaker 1: slang of Nicole Brown. Simpson and Ron Goldman in nineteen

2855
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:22,360
Speaker 1: ninety four were the jury in the abuffed in title

2856
02:37:22,400 --> 02:37:26,440
Speaker 1: action Find the defendant Orenthal Jane Simpson not guilty of

2857
02:37:26,480 --> 02:37:29,240
Speaker 1: the crime of murder in violation of Pino cult Section

2858
02:37:29,280 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 1: one eighty seven. Yet in nineteen ninety seven he found

2859
02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:35,040
Speaker 1: himself losing a civil case and was deemed responsible for

2860
02:37:35,080 --> 02:37:37,880
Speaker 1: their passing, but the combined penalty being thirty three point

2861
02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:41,640
Speaker 1: five million dollars. His acting and broadcasting career were effectively

2862
02:37:41,680 --> 02:37:44,080
Speaker 1: over at this point, and after all that, you might

2863
02:37:44,120 --> 02:37:46,320
Speaker 1: expect him to keep a low profile, but he didn't.

2864
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I stand before you today. Yeah, sorry, somewhat confuse. I

2865
02:37:58,320 --> 02:38:02,680
Speaker 1: feel like apologe to the people for the state of Nevada.

2866
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:04,320
Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, he was in court for

2867
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:06,560
Speaker 1: his role in the Las Vegas robbery and was handed

2868
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:09,600
Speaker 1: a thirty three year prison sentence, being granted parole in

2869
02:38:09,640 --> 02:38:12,840
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He's been free since twenty twenty one, though

2870
02:38:12,920 --> 02:38:16,400
Speaker 1: his name remains synonymous with scandal and now state officials

2871
02:38:16,440 --> 02:38:19,920
Speaker 1: in Nevada have granted Simpson a discharge from his parole

2872
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:24,600
Speaker 1: two months early, citing good behavior, his lawyer saying mister

2873
02:38:24,760 --> 02:38:28,519
Speaker 1: Simpson is a completely free man now, but not disclosing

2874
02:38:28,600 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 1: OJ's future plans. Man, I guess sometimes athlete's go through

2875
02:38:33,959 --> 02:38:36,840
Speaker 1: things like That's just ten. I know more than that, Gil,

2876
02:38:36,920 --> 02:38:39,520
Speaker 1: but Arenas wasn't known now, I guess because maybe they

2877
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:43,400
Speaker 1: didn't crash the whole career out. But Stephen Jackson wasn't

2878
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:46,000
Speaker 1: known there just for running in, you know, Jalen Rose

2879
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:47,840
Speaker 1: wasn't known that a lot of people weren't known there.

2880
02:38:48,400 --> 02:38:51,400
Speaker 1: Can't thank any more off him, But man, Yo, when

2881
02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you get a lot of money, you gotta pay a

2882
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:55,039
Speaker 1: lot of attention. That's just how it go. I want

2883
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:56,720
Speaker 1: to talk about this and then we'll get out of

2884
02:38:56,760 --> 02:39:02,400
Speaker 1: here for today. Charleston White, Charleston White and DJ Academics

2885
02:39:02,480 --> 02:39:04,760
Speaker 1: for those of you, For those of you who do

2886
02:39:05,040 --> 02:39:08,320
Speaker 1: not know, Charleston White and DJ Academics had a show

2887
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:13,280
Speaker 1: together that was canceled. I spoke out about this interaction

2888
02:39:13,400 --> 02:39:16,160
Speaker 1: between Academics and Charleston White, trying to figure out why

2889
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:20,160
Speaker 1: what's happening. I didn't think that Academics was equipped to

2890
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:23,440
Speaker 1: be in a situation to be dealing with someone that

2891
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:27,920
Speaker 1: comes out fearless like Charleston White, right. I think Academics

2892
02:39:28,080 --> 02:39:30,680
Speaker 1: is more of a doctile kind of individual. So I

2893
02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of felt like, all right, he just trying to

2894
02:39:32,680 --> 02:39:35,520
Speaker 1: reach He just needs some help with trying to create

2895
02:39:35,600 --> 02:39:38,400
Speaker 1: what his knicks phase is. His podcast is dying the

2896
02:39:38,520 --> 02:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Internet YouTube might go left at any moment. He really

2897
02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:44,800
Speaker 1: don't got nothing going on. So he trying to figure

2898
02:39:44,840 --> 02:39:47,120
Speaker 1: out what his knicks business modeling, if I could do

2899
02:39:47,240 --> 02:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Fox shows a year, he know he can't do it

2900
02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:51,160
Speaker 1: off his own name. He don't got the nuts to

2901
02:39:51,280 --> 02:39:55,680
Speaker 1: try that. He don't got the balls to try bad self, right,

2902
02:39:56,600 --> 02:39:59,800
Speaker 1: And that's with millions of views, picture that picture having

2903
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:04,520
Speaker 1: a billion views, a million subscribers on YouTube, over a

2904
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:08,240
Speaker 1: million on YouTube, got several channels, five six hundred thousand,

2905
02:40:08,320 --> 02:40:11,240
Speaker 1: get three four hundred thousand lights on a post, but

2906
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:14,520
Speaker 1: can't get three hundred people to come out. That's because

2907
02:40:14,640 --> 02:40:17,480
Speaker 1: people are not there because of academics. They're there because

2908
02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:20,880
Speaker 1: that platform represents the news that's in hip hop. Now,

2909
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:23,280
Speaker 1: that's a way to monetize off that, which he's been

2910
02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:27,080
Speaker 1: able to do. But his brand, hisself, his face card,

2911
02:40:27,120 --> 02:40:31,320
Speaker 1: ain't effective in the market, in podcasting, in none of that.

2912
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:33,800
Speaker 1: Don't nobody want to come see him talk. That's just

2913
02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:36,320
Speaker 1: part of it. You know what I'm saying. That's not

2914
02:40:36,520 --> 02:40:39,520
Speaker 1: me hate, don't due. I know he can't with me.

2915
02:40:40,879 --> 02:40:44,480
Speaker 1: I know this for a fact. Right. So, after that

2916
02:40:44,600 --> 02:40:48,840
Speaker 1: show was canceled because allegedly DJ Academics came out and

2917
02:40:48,920 --> 02:40:51,240
Speaker 1: said that yo. He was reached out to by Live Nation.

2918
02:40:51,320 --> 02:40:53,440
Speaker 1: They told him they're gonna cancel it. Do the Asian

2919
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:55,920
Speaker 1: hate that a lot of hate being talked, a lot

2920
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:59,320
Speaker 1: of hate being spoke about from Charleston White. Then you

2921
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:01,959
Speaker 1: had China Mac reach out and say, look, I'm I'm

2922
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:03,920
Speaker 1: trying to get with him. My hope he comes. So

2923
02:41:04,120 --> 02:41:07,640
Speaker 1: China Max said, yo Ween do that, which made Charleston

2924
02:41:07,680 --> 02:41:10,440
Speaker 1: White dig a little deeper. Let's listen to this video

2925
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:19,640
Speaker 1: k depression. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So it won't be

2926
02:41:19,800 --> 02:41:23,119
Speaker 1: no show with Charleston White and Djacket then I'm gonna

2927
02:41:23,200 --> 02:41:26,600
Speaker 1: keep the guy down money. Oh and no, it ain't

2928
02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:28,320
Speaker 1: no show. I want to do no show with Djack.

2929
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be in bid with

2930
02:41:31,959 --> 02:41:36,160
Speaker 1: no cowgor And I think DJA Academics is a coward

2931
02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:40,400
Speaker 1: after I saw him in China Max sitting up talking

2932
02:41:41,400 --> 02:41:47,240
Speaker 1: talking like two pussies. Ah who promote black music and

2933
02:41:47,320 --> 02:41:50,720
Speaker 1: the destruction of black music and and DJ Academics has

2934
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:53,600
Speaker 1: never used this platform to have that kind of discussion

2935
02:41:53,959 --> 02:41:57,280
Speaker 1: with black people and black rapples. He made mockery of

2936
02:41:57,560 --> 02:42:00,320
Speaker 1: the drill music, He made mockery of the dell and

2937
02:42:00,440 --> 02:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I see him got a round face, booted face. I

2938
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:10,080
Speaker 1: hate people like China Mac, I hate his. I love

2939
02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:17,400
Speaker 1: America and I I China Na Na so man. I

2940
02:42:17,640 --> 02:42:21,080
Speaker 1: undevelop a real disdain for DJA Academics, and I was

2941
02:42:21,240 --> 02:42:24,360
Speaker 1: very fond of him. I was very fond of DJA

2942
02:42:24,400 --> 02:42:27,640
Speaker 1: Academics because still got a lot of admiration. But after

2943
02:42:27,760 --> 02:42:30,760
Speaker 1: what I've seen over the last couple of days, or

2944
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:37,160
Speaker 1: I got a lot of disdain for that guy. Yeah,

2945
02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:42,360
Speaker 1: he discussed me. You're just thinking about that, Homy. I

2946
02:42:42,520 --> 02:42:47,560
Speaker 1: consider him a friend of mine. Yeah, he discussed me. Eventually,

2947
02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:51,760
Speaker 1: he'll become my enemy out of my disdain, y'all think

2948
02:42:51,800 --> 02:42:55,800
Speaker 1: he'll coward, a yellow belly coward, and he don't represent

2949
02:42:56,320 --> 02:43:02,000
Speaker 1: blacks nor nails. He'll puppet for the Jish entertainment industry

2950
02:43:02,320 --> 02:43:06,520
Speaker 1: that uses the degradation of rap lyrics and rap music

2951
02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:11,800
Speaker 1: and videos to destroy young black males, their progressiveness, their productiveness,

2952
02:43:12,080 --> 02:43:16,240
Speaker 1: and even the positiveness that can even flow through their minds.

2953
02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:19,879
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now after what I've seen

2954
02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:23,280
Speaker 1: the last couple of days with DJ Academic backpeling, and

2955
02:43:23,400 --> 02:43:26,360
Speaker 1: he know I'm playing character. He steady telling people man,

2956
02:43:26,400 --> 02:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I get rulest now. You can't get it if you're

2957
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:32,880
Speaker 1: backpeeling now, so get your motherfuckers out of bid with me.

2958
02:43:33,440 --> 02:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Ye'all kicking this out of bid. Get so out the

2959
02:43:36,440 --> 02:43:43,640
Speaker 1: bill with me, bother coward. Yeah I hate cowdards, yeah yeah,

2960
02:43:43,760 --> 02:43:47,840
Speaker 1: yeah no, So I hope that now I hate cowards.

2961
02:43:47,920 --> 02:43:52,680
Speaker 1: DJ academics, and I see cowboy traits and characteristics all

2962
02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:59,160
Speaker 1: throughout everything that stands about you. You're trust ain't rationalize

2963
02:43:59,240 --> 02:44:03,760
Speaker 1: with me drunk every goddamn day, So up Nick for

2964
02:44:03,920 --> 02:44:08,760
Speaker 1: you start trying to talk. I ain't no drunk. You

2965
02:44:08,920 --> 02:44:11,880
Speaker 1: read the contract. You don't get no guid money back.

2966
02:44:12,360 --> 02:44:15,920
Speaker 1: You counsel to show. DJ academic stopped lying on the

2967
02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:20,879
Speaker 1: Live Nation You coward, Yeah you did. Then Chinese people

2968
02:44:20,879 --> 02:44:25,080
Speaker 1: ain't called and did nothing. You did then got cowward mother.

2969
02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I just found out. Man, we got to

2970
02:44:27,879 --> 02:44:31,600
Speaker 1: email to prooven Live Nation denied counsel the show or

2971
02:44:31,959 --> 02:44:36,240
Speaker 1: man DJ academics counsel to God show. Then try to

2972
02:44:36,360 --> 02:44:39,560
Speaker 1: trick us in believing I'm that big or Live Nation

2973
02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:42,080
Speaker 1: men and people weren't getting a damn about me. That

2974
02:44:42,240 --> 02:44:45,119
Speaker 1: was DZ academics. Get of that pressure that were coming

2975
02:44:45,560 --> 02:44:48,440
Speaker 1: from them other people. Man, Bill the cat man, I

2976
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:54,160
Speaker 1: hate you kill I hope you drank some buck, y'all,

2977
02:44:54,160 --> 02:45:00,240
Speaker 1: I hope you drank some lookal still, yeah, this is DJ.

2978
02:45:00,320 --> 02:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I can get me to counsel show. They wanted to

2979
02:45:03,440 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 1: hide behind the Live Nation and then do an interview

2980
02:45:06,959 --> 02:45:09,760
Speaker 1: with the and then I didn't have nothing to do

2981
02:45:09,840 --> 02:45:15,800
Speaker 1: with it. We know, yeah, we know. Yeah, they trying

2982
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:17,440
Speaker 1: to do it. Man. I'm sick of men. I'm sick

2983
02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:20,160
Speaker 1: of all my internet friends I meet off the Internet.

2984
02:45:20,400 --> 02:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll be thinking, y'all of some cool dude. I'll see

2985
02:45:23,000 --> 02:45:28,280
Speaker 1: why y'all cooled on internet, you're never cooled in real life. Yeah,

2986
02:45:28,520 --> 02:45:33,240
Speaker 1: he counseled the show because when we said you counseled it,

2987
02:45:33,480 --> 02:45:37,760
Speaker 1: he said, you're right. He can keep the refund or whatever,

2988
02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:43,879
Speaker 1: the depositive wellness and he lying and came away from

2989
02:45:43,879 --> 02:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Donna Trump be president again. Oh yeah, I'm sick of

2990
02:45:49,080 --> 02:45:53,080
Speaker 1: the I'm sick of these south back at Yeah. I

2991
02:45:53,240 --> 02:46:00,200
Speaker 1: know why I was right, man, he ain't signed, ain't

2992
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:03,879
Speaker 1: know her. We see these ain't southern, that's these East

2993
02:46:03,959 --> 02:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Coast up Norfolk. Because don't know if that many solid man,

2994
02:46:09,640 --> 02:46:14,200
Speaker 1: but see they need see see they didn't make their

2995
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:19,720
Speaker 1: selve man, I made myself. I'm a self and then

2996
02:46:20,120 --> 02:46:25,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the whole live right. Yeah, yeah, I'm a self. Man.

2997
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:29,760
Speaker 1: Upon speaking of academics on yesterday, he said that Charleston

2998
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:37,200
Speaker 1: White could keep the deposit for a podcast, he said

2999
02:46:37,280 --> 02:46:39,680
Speaker 1: this was on you guys, not us, and he said,

3000
02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:44,119
Speaker 1: you were right boy. They'll try to play on y'all

3001
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:46,440
Speaker 1: all day. I ain't bullshit. They can internet believe in

3002
02:46:46,560 --> 02:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Live Nation camp. Now, man, many people all about money,

3003
02:46:51,400 --> 02:46:55,840
Speaker 1: ain't about no mother finch Man. She she but different

3004
02:46:55,920 --> 02:46:58,880
Speaker 1: DJ academics did that. He thinks we're stupid and we

3005
02:46:58,959 --> 02:47:02,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Right. It took him a minute to send

3006
02:47:02,480 --> 02:47:05,840
Speaker 1: a deposit. So what he wanted to do was he

3007
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:08,920
Speaker 1: had to show in New York, right. He wanted to

3008
02:47:09,000 --> 02:47:11,560
Speaker 1: see how the ticket sales would do before he sent

3009
02:47:11,680 --> 02:47:14,240
Speaker 1: me the money, rather than just signing the contract. So

3010
02:47:14,360 --> 02:47:16,760
Speaker 1: he did some sneaks, which we know he did it,

3011
02:47:16,959 --> 02:47:19,840
Speaker 1: which we wasn't tripping. So what he did well, he

3012
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:23,800
Speaker 1: snuck and put the tickets online. He told us they

3013
02:47:23,920 --> 02:47:27,520
Speaker 1: wasn't up. But my managers is so sharp. Anything that

3014
02:47:27,640 --> 02:47:30,360
Speaker 1: has anything to do with me, she's on every website

3015
02:47:30,560 --> 02:47:35,320
Speaker 1: looking at links and things. So my manager online trying

3016
02:47:35,320 --> 02:47:38,400
Speaker 1: to see anything with my name on him. So she

3017
02:47:38,600 --> 02:47:41,680
Speaker 1: see the tickets online and the tickets or sent them,

3018
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:44,840
Speaker 1: so she hit djack and then said, man, djam, y'all

3019
02:47:44,840 --> 02:47:47,200
Speaker 1: got the tickets online. I don't send a deposit. How

3020
02:47:47,240 --> 02:47:50,160
Speaker 1: you gonna be sending tickets and you ain't saying oh okay,

3021
02:47:50,240 --> 02:47:54,400
Speaker 1: they come on Man Live Nation put him all you

3022
02:47:54,640 --> 02:47:57,280
Speaker 1: did that, but he thought we were dumb and wouldn't

3023
02:47:57,320 --> 02:48:00,160
Speaker 1: catch it. So we spent So now, man, that home

3024
02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:04,040
Speaker 1: that day flew. Let's see, this is what happened. They

3025
02:48:04,160 --> 02:48:07,240
Speaker 1: think I'm dumb because of the character I play. They're

3026
02:48:07,280 --> 02:48:09,600
Speaker 1: looking at him manager. She got all these tattoos on it.

3027
02:48:09,720 --> 02:48:12,039
Speaker 1: They don't know she a straight million or business woman.

3028
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh she didn't look the way she looks. She didn't

3029
02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:19,720
Speaker 1: look street and new Oh, very professional. So we've seen

3030
02:48:19,840 --> 02:48:22,280
Speaker 1: him playing on them and she said, man, you don't

3031
02:48:22,280 --> 02:48:26,760
Speaker 1: that's Charleston. So he's getting online saying I get Charleston,

3032
02:48:26,920 --> 02:48:29,560
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I understand Charleston. But

3033
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:32,280
Speaker 1: at the same time, he can't take the pressure of

3034
02:48:32,440 --> 02:48:36,640
Speaker 1: having to keep defending what I'm saying. So rather than

3035
02:48:36,800 --> 02:48:39,160
Speaker 1: him just saying, hey man, this is about being and

3036
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:41,680
Speaker 1: they got in the character he he can't withstand that

3037
02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:45,760
Speaker 1: because he's afraid of the industry, the ship war. But

3038
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:48,560
Speaker 1: everybody's saying this, Why would he go have a show

3039
02:48:48,560 --> 02:48:51,320
Speaker 1: in New York and he's not from New York? Why

3040
02:48:51,360 --> 02:48:53,440
Speaker 1: would these academy want to hop store in New York

3041
02:48:53,480 --> 02:48:56,320
Speaker 1: and not from New York. So it didn't matter. You

3042
02:48:56,520 --> 02:48:58,960
Speaker 1: go do show where we're gonna through ticket sales in it.

3043
02:48:59,360 --> 02:49:02,240
Speaker 1: So the tickets were selling it, so he ended up

3044
02:49:02,280 --> 02:49:03,920
Speaker 1: sending the money, but he wanted to put the tickets

3045
02:49:03,959 --> 02:49:06,200
Speaker 1: up and see if they were saying without us knowing,

3046
02:49:06,720 --> 02:49:11,119
Speaker 1: so we catch it. So now, Harry, come on people

3047
02:49:11,120 --> 02:49:14,520
Speaker 1: to believe you've got a live nation. And somebody stopped naw,

3048
02:49:15,360 --> 02:49:20,360
Speaker 1: this was all DJ academic, y'all, uh China macmims and

3049
02:49:20,440 --> 02:49:24,040
Speaker 1: putting no pressure from all. DJ Academic just wanted to

3050
02:49:24,120 --> 02:49:26,280
Speaker 1: play that because I think it just echoes something that

3051
02:49:26,360 --> 02:49:30,120
Speaker 1: I've constantly been saying, like this industry, these dudes don't

3052
02:49:30,160 --> 02:49:35,279
Speaker 1: know what they're doing, and I'm here to destructure everything.

3053
02:49:35,520 --> 02:49:37,800
Speaker 1: Got you know when you look at that's my take

3054
02:49:37,879 --> 02:49:40,240
Speaker 1: on it. We'll see y'all next week. It's Up There

3055
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Podcast appreciate y'all.