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Speaker 5: All right, that's a quick open Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 5: It is Christmas Eve here at you. Let's stay. The

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Speaker 5: stockings were all hanging out ready to be stuffed. And uh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, I'm ready to be stuffed too. I

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Speaker 5: gotta order food. Not moly kidding, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Kidd you're really ordering food on Christmas?

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Speaker 5: I guess not, but I'm hungry. I haven't eaten.

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Speaker 6: All right, you want Christmas crack?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't want sugar.

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Speaker 6: I could use a little that later. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: not now.

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Speaker 5: Paul is here, Alex is here, Evan will be here,

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Speaker 5: Douce will be here, and uh Matt's in the booth

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Speaker 5: and we're getting ready for the the I almost said

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Speaker 5: San Diego the LA Chargers on Saturday. What do you

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Speaker 5: think Paul Alex excited about this game?

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Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about Buffalo little first.

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Speaker 5: you know, I figured everything that needs to be said

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Speaker 6: Disrespectful no no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So, I mean everyone is pretty I wouldn't say satisfied,

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Speaker 5: but it's pleasantly surprised by the performance on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: The first corner. No one expected that for a first.

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Speaker 6: So I can't just lie and say I picked the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a possibility, and it happened. But I think,

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Speaker 5: equally impressive was holding you know, Josh Allen and their

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Speaker 6: Now for the Patriots run defense. They had one hundred

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Speaker 6: No, the secondary was the difference.

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Speaker 5: And I was just gonna say the secondary was outstanding.

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Speaker 6: Now didn't run. Yeah, he didn't want to run.

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Speaker 7: Against probably one of the best the best teams, if not.

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Speaker 5: You take away the turnovers and you might have won

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Speaker 6: Watch won the game. I don't know. Now they gave

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Speaker 6: Oh, you gave the game away three turnovers, three consecutive possessions.

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Speaker 5: coached team, impressive win last week. You know, Patriots, if

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Speaker 6: So I'm more curious what you guys think of that.

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Speaker 6: Like you said, for what it's worth, what do you

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Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I'm just curious it's not worth like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they did, but they you know, they were

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Speaker 7: Basically, Yeah, And I think if they had gone into

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Speaker 9: So I think it's.

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Speaker 6: Worth and I agree with what the way Alex said

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Speaker 5: I mean they have flick at last night, you know,

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Speaker 5: thirty four to nothing. You know, the Saints get blown out.

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Speaker 6: I mean I've heard a lot of that. Today. It's

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Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying I've heard a lot of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: But you know, they can't be feeling good over there

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Speaker 5: about all this stuff, you know, So there's a differences

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Speaker 5: going to make the playoffs next year at all, but

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Speaker 5: it's just just a little better taste in your mouth.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, And I'm not again I said it at

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't anyone.

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Speaker 6: I thought they would have a hard time keeping up,

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Speaker 6: and they didn't. Yeah, they kept up.

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Speaker 6: I mean ultimately, like you said, for the mistakes cost

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Speaker 6: to win the game in the second half, none, but

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Speaker 6: it was because of their own mistakes.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yep. Obviously the turnovers are big mistakes. But would

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Speaker 5: you consider going for the punt on fourth and sixth mistake?

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Speaker 6: Not going for a punt? Yeah, Like you're trying to

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Speaker 5: They punted on fourth and sixth on midfield.

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Speaker 6: I would say, you're trying to win the game or

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Speaker 6: you're trying to lose.

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Speaker 5: By a little I don't know. If they try to

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Speaker 6: Eight thirty three left, you're down ten from the forty

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Speaker 5: Half the other way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that to me is why I can't I

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Speaker 6: I haven't really done since the second quarter.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yep. I mean we have to remember that the

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Speaker 6: I would say less about the You're right about the personnel,

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Speaker 6: I you know, again, I said I thought it was

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Speaker 6: It happened like. I don't think Josh Allen wanted to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was visiting with that hand. That seemed like

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you questions. The Patriots play as

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Speaker 6: Do they Chargers play? But do the Chargers play the

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Speaker 5: I don't know how that was you you.

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Speaker 6: Just said they're coming off a big win.

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Speaker 5: Well, the overall game, it was a big win.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So if they did the Chargers play like that,

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to think Chargers play like they did last Thursday.

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Speaker 6: They win by two scores. Denver answer the question.

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Speaker 5: Denver jumped out to a lead in that one, twenty

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Speaker 5: the first half, no turnovers. Do they win that game

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Speaker 6: I doubt it.

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Speaker 5: No. You think the Chargers have as much power as.

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Speaker 6: Much as the Bills. No, Yeah, they're not a high

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Speaker 5: So that's what I'm trying to add.

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Speaker 6: But they're a better defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you already got an eleven point lead. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I could see them shutting you out. Yeah, Buffalo did

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Speaker 6: I don't think Buffalo's defense as good at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's not bad.

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Speaker 6: I think it's pretty bad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to cost them again. You think so, yeah, good,

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Speaker 6: it's my analysis.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 6: We don't want Bills, Fred's Fred's hated teams are.

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Speaker 5: Gonna absolutely lose.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't. I still creeping around now.

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Speaker 5: I can't decide. I can't decide if I want the

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Speaker 5: either one would make me really happy.

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Speaker 7: The Bills I kind of want to see win the

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Speaker 5: That upsets nature. It's not natural.

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Speaker 7: I know it's not natural. That's why it's natural. It'd

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Speaker 7: be nice to see them get one.

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Speaker 5: No, it wouldn't. Why I don't. I'm not a Bills fan.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: They were just like our little brother that was never

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Speaker 7: as good as we were for years, and I want

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Speaker 7: to keep it. Yeah, but it's like, if they get one,

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Speaker 7: it's not.

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Speaker 5: If they get one, they'll be putting in billboard one.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 7: We'll get to make fun of them for it and

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Speaker 7: be like, act like you've been here before, Oh wait,

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Speaker 7: you haven't, and then we can joke about it, and

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Speaker 7: then they'll go.

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Speaker 6: To But now it's just the whole thing planning.

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Speaker 5: If they win one, now we can't say, well, you know,

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Speaker 5: then we have.

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Speaker 7: Six, you have one, but you got you got your one. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: say that's really cute. We're happy for you.

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Speaker 5: We can't say to them anymore, well, you haven't won anything.

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Speaker 5: I want to be able to continue to say that

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Speaker 5: fair enough.

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Speaker 7: It's not a threat to me if they win one,

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Speaker 7: because you know, I don't think they'll continue to sustain

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Speaker 6: I don't think they would win six. But as long

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Speaker 6: as long as Josh Allen as their quarterback, they will

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Speaker 6: be a contender every year.

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Speaker 5: You know, because you drive into Orchard Park and the

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Speaker 5: You might see some moons here and I would love

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Speaker 5: to get hit by snowballs, you know, which is all fine, good.

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Speaker 5: I want to I wanted to put a sign on

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Speaker 5: the bus, you know, Scott Scott nor would express as

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Speaker 5: we drove in, you know, or like what if you

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Speaker 5: won something like that? You know, to troll them.

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Speaker 6: But uh, which is why he doesn't get along.

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Speaker 5: We probably wouldn't make it if we did that.

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Speaker 6: But no, that's that is assover. That is a tough entrance.

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Speaker 5: It's a tough Entrance.

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Speaker 6: But every year.

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Speaker 5: But it but I don't care because you guys haven't

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Speaker 5: won anything. Yeah, you know, if you win a super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: then now you've won a super Bowl. Now you're off

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Speaker 5: the snide.

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Speaker 7: I get it.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't have the Buffalo hatred that Fred does.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, me either, Like the Jets have it all for

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Speaker 6: Me, it's always been Miami.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, see I don't. I don't saying, but I don't

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Speaker 7: My least hated division rival.

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Speaker 6: Well, for me, it was always Shula on the like

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Speaker 6: Greasy and Marino, they've never won down there obviously until

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Speaker 6: they finally did in eighty five. But I always I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, going back to of the game, Marty Mapu, aside

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Speaker 5: from the bone Head, played great game. For Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: was gonna say this game, I said, Aside from the

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Speaker 5: I thought he had a good game.

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Speaker 6: I thought he played really well. And this is it's

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Speaker 6: something that you know as you guys know that these

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Speaker 6: random things that just kind of annoy me. It sided

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Speaker 6: would annoy me, like the last couple of games that

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Speaker 6: he's been a healthy scratch.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he needed that.

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Speaker 6: He's a second year player, he needs to play. No,

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Speaker 6: but maybe you know, like like for what would he

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Speaker 6: need that for?

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Speaker 5: Maybe we don't know, but I'm just saying there's gotta

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Speaker 6: He wasn't dressed.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so semantics Paul didn't see the field, wasn't dressed.

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Speaker 5: There's gotta be a reason for that.

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Speaker 6: They didn't think he was one of their best players. Why,

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Speaker 6: don't think that's all that controversial.

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Speaker 5: They didn't and maybe there was a good reason for that,

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Speaker 5: and maybe he needed that time to like reflect on

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Speaker 5: why aren't they putting me out here? I need to

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Speaker 5: step up? And maybe that worked, you know, different things

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Speaker 5: to motivate different players. Maybe he needed that time out

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Speaker 6: You give the coaches a pass. I'm not like it's

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Speaker 5: Dressed so arbitrarily, they just said, we're not going to

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Speaker 5: address you.

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Speaker 6: It's no reason, it's not no. They arbitrarily didn't decide

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Speaker 6: to put him back in the lineup either. Jabrill Pepper's

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Speaker 6: got hurt on Friday at practice, but opened up a

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Speaker 6: spot on the roster. That's why he played well.

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Speaker 5: We're told he got hurt. I don't know about the.

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Speaker 6: Heard in practice on Friday. Was added to the injury

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Speaker 6: board Friday.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, good, but I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 6: Now they're just making stuff up on the injury.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe this time out for Mapou helped him, you

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Speaker 5: know a little time, but it.

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Speaker 6: Was wrong with when he was playing earlier.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't playing well at all.

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Speaker 6: As ask Evan, Why do I have to ask Evan?

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Speaker 6: I can watch the game myself.

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Speaker 5: Because he grinds the all twenty two.

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Speaker 6: This is he didn't even play.

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Speaker 5: It's really hard to tell, Like I, I can't watch

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Speaker 5: a game and know what a safety like, did he

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Speaker 5: have a great game? The only time you know what

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Speaker 5: kind of game he has is when he screws up

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Speaker 5: or when he makes you know, great play.

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Speaker 6: Screw up on Sunday. I thought he I thought he

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Speaker 6: had good coverage on Sunday exactly. I didn't need the

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Speaker 5: Him he was involved. And I thought he had a

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Speaker 5: good game, and I thought it might have been his

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Speaker 6: Players need to be playing, That's all I will say.

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Speaker 6: If you want to get better, your young players need

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Speaker 6: to get better and develop and play well.

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Speaker 5: I think your best players need to be playing. And

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Speaker 5: you know, I can't imagine that for no reason they decided,

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Speaker 5: I think that he wasn't for you know, playing up

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Speaker 5: to his ability. Wasn't you know, getting the game plan right?

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Speaker 5: Whatever it is they felt.

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Speaker 6: But they but that's does that mean it's right.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, I don't know if it's.

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Speaker 1: Right or right.

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Speaker 6: I assume, Alex that they have like reasoning, like when

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Speaker 6: integrate Drake may slowly. I think that was the wrong reason.

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Speaker 6: I know they had one, doesn't mean I have to

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Speaker 5: So you think before they sat Mapoo he was having

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Speaker 6: He didn't play enough. He was getting played, like two

443
00:19:49,273 --> 00:19:50,673
Speaker 6: games he was he was sitting.

444
00:19:50,793 --> 00:19:54,913
Speaker 5: He was getting panned before this. And you know how

445
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:57,914
Speaker 5: was Kyle Dugger played. He was getting panned as well.

446
00:19:57,954 --> 00:19:59,994
Speaker 6: Did they sit him? Maybe he needed to sit so

447
00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,313
Speaker 6: he could go to the penalty box between minutes and

448
00:20:02,313 --> 00:20:02,793
Speaker 6: field shait.

449
00:20:02,793 --> 00:20:04,914
Speaker 5: Maybe they didn't have an alternative to Dugger.

450
00:20:04,674 --> 00:20:08,033
Speaker 6: They had MANI ma pool. Well, okay, this is my

451
00:20:08,073 --> 00:20:10,674
Speaker 6: whole point. Just because a guy's not playing well playing,

452
00:20:10,994 --> 00:20:14,633
Speaker 6: I don't seem to remember these like egregiously bad plays

453
00:20:14,634 --> 00:20:17,553
Speaker 6: that Mapoo was making. I don't necessarily ever remember making

454
00:20:17,593 --> 00:20:20,073
Speaker 6: any good plays like he did on Sunday before this,

455
00:20:20,194 --> 00:20:22,714
Speaker 6: either in fairness to you and not that I thought

456
00:20:22,754 --> 00:20:24,874
Speaker 6: he was lighting it up. But I don't remember him

457
00:20:24,914 --> 00:20:28,273
Speaker 6: being like del Pettis, he plays every game. I could

458
00:20:28,273 --> 00:20:29,914
Speaker 6: give you a litany of plays that I remember in

459
00:20:29,994 --> 00:20:32,994
Speaker 6: being out of position. Okay, so he's a young guy.

460
00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:33,553
Speaker 11: You live with it.

461
00:20:33,714 --> 00:20:36,274
Speaker 5: You want to get So you're saying they mistreated Mapoo.

462
00:20:36,394 --> 00:20:39,194
Speaker 6: I didn't say anything about mistreat I think they made mistakes. Fred,

463
00:20:39,513 --> 00:20:42,394
Speaker 6: Why does it have to be like an egregiously, like malicious,

464
00:20:42,394 --> 00:20:43,714
Speaker 6: like like they mistreated.

465
00:20:43,914 --> 00:20:46,834
Speaker 5: I think if Mapoo was playing as well as del

466
00:20:46,914 --> 00:20:50,674
Speaker 5: Pettis or Pepper's or or Duggar, I think he would

467
00:20:50,714 --> 00:20:53,633
Speaker 5: have been dressed. I think there was a reason why you.

468
00:20:53,754 --> 00:20:56,313
Speaker 6: Can't play safety worse than Kyle Dugert did in Miami.

469
00:20:56,353 --> 00:20:57,833
Speaker 5: No, he was awful.

470
00:20:57,513 --> 00:20:59,633
Speaker 6: And he didn't miss a second playing time.

471
00:20:59,553 --> 00:21:01,673
Speaker 5: Over it except for being a little bit.

472
00:21:01,754 --> 00:21:04,394
Speaker 6: So that's not not since then, Yeah, he hasn't been hurt.

473
00:21:04,474 --> 00:21:08,234
Speaker 5: But I I I'm telling you, Paul that whether you

474
00:21:08,353 --> 00:21:10,754
Speaker 5: think it, I know it's right or wrong. I think

475
00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:14,153
Speaker 5: there was a reason why he was not dressed, and

476
00:21:14,194 --> 00:21:16,914
Speaker 5: I think it might have helped him because I think

477
00:21:16,954 --> 00:21:17,994
Speaker 5: he had his best game.

478
00:21:18,033 --> 00:21:19,754
Speaker 6: Well, I think it hurt him. I think he could

479
00:21:19,754 --> 00:21:22,833
Speaker 6: have done what he did on Sunday the previous five

480
00:21:22,874 --> 00:21:24,513
Speaker 6: games had he played. Yeah, I know, I was were

481
00:21:24,553 --> 00:21:27,114
Speaker 6: playing in fantasy land of having no idea what happened.

482
00:21:27,553 --> 00:21:29,073
Speaker 6: I'm going to go with that he would have been better.

483
00:21:29,234 --> 00:21:32,433
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I'm you know I've never coached in the NFL.

484
00:21:32,553 --> 00:21:34,553
Speaker 5: You have, so you know more than I do.

485
00:21:34,754 --> 00:21:36,994
Speaker 6: No, I you know, I but you can't make a

486
00:21:37,474 --> 00:21:39,754
Speaker 6: you can't make a comment and say I think he

487
00:21:39,874 --> 00:21:41,234
Speaker 6: benefited from not playing.

488
00:21:41,754 --> 00:21:42,833
Speaker 5: I can make that comment.

489
00:21:43,553 --> 00:21:44,994
Speaker 6: Then I can say I think it heard him not

490
00:21:44,994 --> 00:21:46,834
Speaker 6: playing and he would have been better on Sunday. Fine,

491
00:21:46,874 --> 00:21:48,513
Speaker 6: and they would have won the game had he had

492
00:21:48,513 --> 00:21:49,474
Speaker 6: they played the last three years.

493
00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:50,674
Speaker 5: That's fine. We can disagree.

494
00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:53,154
Speaker 6: That's every bit as silly, is what you're saying.

495
00:21:53,234 --> 00:21:54,073
Speaker 7: I think you're both right.

496
00:21:54,674 --> 00:21:55,113
Speaker 8: Why I.

497
00:21:56,714 --> 00:22:01,353
Speaker 7: Experience a fire under him that he was sitting like,

498
00:22:01,434 --> 00:22:02,354
Speaker 7: I think you're both right.

499
00:22:02,593 --> 00:22:06,513
Speaker 6: It might have, But to say that it did, I

500
00:22:06,513 --> 00:22:07,313
Speaker 6: don't think you can do it.

501
00:22:07,434 --> 00:22:09,994
Speaker 5: I say, I said, I think, I think, I think

502
00:22:09,994 --> 00:22:12,474
Speaker 5: that opinions.

503
00:22:13,474 --> 00:22:16,314
Speaker 6: I just like, I just don't really understand what the

504
00:22:16,394 --> 00:22:20,114
Speaker 6: other side is of not playing a young guy that

505
00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:23,073
Speaker 6: needs experience. I don't really know what the other side is.

506
00:22:23,194 --> 00:22:24,634
Speaker 5: Does del Pettis need experience?

507
00:22:24,674 --> 00:22:26,834
Speaker 6: Yes, that's why playing Okay, that's why I'm all. That's

508
00:22:26,874 --> 00:22:29,914
Speaker 6: why even though he's making mistakes, I understand what he's doing.

509
00:22:29,994 --> 00:22:30,273
Speaker 5: Okay.

510
00:22:30,353 --> 00:22:32,474
Speaker 6: I don't think del Pettis has anywhere near the upside

511
00:22:32,474 --> 00:22:33,513
Speaker 6: that Mapoo. Do you know?

512
00:22:33,553 --> 00:22:36,354
Speaker 5: Every Sunday is a numbers game, like and the coaches

513
00:22:36,394 --> 00:22:38,033
Speaker 5: have to make a decision. Who are we going to

514
00:22:38,073 --> 00:22:39,994
Speaker 5: be out here, Who's who's going to give us lost?

515
00:22:40,073 --> 00:22:42,154
Speaker 6: If it was between Mapoo and Pettis, it would be

516
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:45,354
Speaker 6: Mapoo for me, for you, right, because there's like there's

517
00:22:45,434 --> 00:22:48,954
Speaker 6: upside there, there's size, there's athleticism, there's pedigree. He was

518
00:22:48,954 --> 00:22:51,634
Speaker 6: a third round pick, not an undrafted rookie. Like, there's

519
00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:53,754
Speaker 6: a lot more to be gained. If Mapoo was good,

520
00:22:53,874 --> 00:22:57,194
Speaker 6: unless there's some other if it's just a miss and

521
00:22:57,234 --> 00:23:00,114
Speaker 6: it's not another bad draft pick by Belichick, then by

522
00:23:00,154 --> 00:23:02,793
Speaker 6: all means don't play him. But I don't think that's

523
00:23:02,793 --> 00:23:03,194
Speaker 6: the case.

524
00:23:03,353 --> 00:23:03,794
Speaker 5: I don't think.

525
00:23:03,994 --> 00:23:04,874
Speaker 6: I don't think we know yet.

526
00:23:04,914 --> 00:23:05,353
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

527
00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:09,793
Speaker 7: This WEE weekend will be interesting. You'll see if Pepper's

528
00:23:09,874 --> 00:23:13,553
Speaker 7: is back in, if Duggar has a big role, you'll see, Okay,

529
00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:15,954
Speaker 7: how are they going to use it? Because they saw

530
00:23:16,033 --> 00:23:18,913
Speaker 7: that he can play. He made great plays. He was

531
00:23:19,073 --> 00:23:23,634
Speaker 7: very active, aside from the the touchback situation, which you.

532
00:23:23,553 --> 00:23:24,313
Speaker 1: Can also.

533
00:23:25,714 --> 00:23:27,513
Speaker 6: That was a bad play and you kind of.

534
00:23:27,513 --> 00:23:30,553
Speaker 7: See him like, at least from the broadcast point vantage point.

535
00:23:30,553 --> 00:23:31,673
Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys saw it looked like

536
00:23:31,674 --> 00:23:33,434
Speaker 7: he kind of like stopped at the last minute.

537
00:23:33,553 --> 00:23:34,033
Speaker 12: But then.

538
00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:42,234
Speaker 5: I agree with that, but let's mark this down because

539
00:23:42,273 --> 00:23:43,873
Speaker 5: I want to get the opinions of Deuce and.

540
00:23:43,914 --> 00:23:46,714
Speaker 6: Evan, but I don't like, I don't really understand, Like,

541
00:23:47,434 --> 00:23:49,433
Speaker 6: why can I not think that he should play? Like

542
00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:50,633
Speaker 6: I know they have a reason.

543
00:23:50,674 --> 00:23:56,353
Speaker 5: You keep saying, what does I have an opinion? He

544
00:23:56,434 --> 00:23:59,754
Speaker 5: has an opinion? But Paul, why can't I have my opinion?

545
00:23:59,793 --> 00:24:01,394
Speaker 5: Who said you can't have your opinion?

546
00:24:01,553 --> 00:24:05,873
Speaker 6: You have an opinion? That is that's why he's not playing?

547
00:24:07,114 --> 00:24:09,674
Speaker 5: Said maybe maybe this was good.

548
00:24:09,474 --> 00:24:11,434
Speaker 6: For him, And I'm saying, like, why did he need it?

549
00:24:12,273 --> 00:24:14,793
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm saying, but maybe the cor.

550
00:24:14,474 --> 00:24:18,074
Speaker 6: You know what, You're right, Let's let's kind of take

551
00:24:18,073 --> 00:24:21,954
Speaker 6: a step back. What makes you think that? Like, I'm

552
00:24:21,994 --> 00:24:24,073
Speaker 6: curious as to what have you seen that makes you

553
00:24:24,114 --> 00:24:25,393
Speaker 6: think that he needed to it?

554
00:24:25,553 --> 00:24:28,474
Speaker 5: Yeah? To think because I remember when he was playing,

555
00:24:29,194 --> 00:24:32,994
Speaker 5: everybody thought Marty Mapoo isn't getting it. He's not playing.

556
00:24:33,114 --> 00:24:34,354
Speaker 6: I don't think he's all that good.

557
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:36,234
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll say that that could be, but.

558
00:24:36,194 --> 00:24:39,553
Speaker 6: This game, right, But I want I just want to

559
00:24:39,593 --> 00:24:42,434
Speaker 6: find out, like I would not have said Jalen Polk

560
00:24:42,513 --> 00:24:45,954
Speaker 6: needed to sit four games Week three through five. I

561
00:24:45,994 --> 00:24:48,033
Speaker 6: want to see him play to see if he can

562
00:24:48,073 --> 00:24:51,394
Speaker 6: get out of this. Yeah, now it's been fifteen weeks

563
00:24:52,114 --> 00:24:54,673
Speaker 6: kind of out on a Jalen Polk experience. Do you know,

564
00:24:54,833 --> 00:24:57,434
Speaker 6: you know, like you don't know unless you see him playing.

565
00:24:57,553 --> 00:24:58,954
Speaker 5: Okay, but we saw.

566
00:24:58,994 --> 00:25:01,394
Speaker 6: I was just curious as to why you thought because

567
00:25:01,434 --> 00:25:04,593
Speaker 6: Mapoo needed that, which is probably a better way of

568
00:25:04,593 --> 00:25:05,833
Speaker 6: me than being his argumentative.

569
00:25:05,914 --> 00:25:07,513
Speaker 5: I don't think he was playing well, and I think

570
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:11,234
Speaker 5: the coaches decided We're going to see what combination we

571
00:25:11,273 --> 00:25:15,994
Speaker 5: can you know, at safety will be better and whatever.

572
00:25:16,353 --> 00:25:18,954
Speaker 5: Maybe and if I'm Mapoo, I'm like, I should be

573
00:25:18,994 --> 00:25:22,033
Speaker 5: out there. I'm better, I'm better than del Pettis. I'm

574
00:25:22,513 --> 00:25:25,194
Speaker 5: I'm playing as well as as Dougger. I should be

575
00:25:25,313 --> 00:25:30,033
Speaker 5: out there. And maybe, you know, being not dressed, like

576
00:25:30,114 --> 00:25:32,754
Speaker 5: you said, lit a fire under him and and it

577
00:25:33,194 --> 00:25:36,113
Speaker 5: resulted in him having his best game so far this season.

578
00:25:36,154 --> 00:25:38,474
Speaker 6: That might have been That might have been the That's

579
00:25:38,513 --> 00:25:41,474
Speaker 6: all I'm saying. I mean, I can't again, no, but

580
00:25:41,474 --> 00:25:44,194
Speaker 6: because I can't argue something that's impossible to prove, So

581
00:25:44,754 --> 00:25:46,474
Speaker 6: that might have been the case. But you try to

582
00:25:46,553 --> 00:25:48,714
Speaker 6: say but that, But that's why I'm saying.

583
00:25:49,154 --> 00:25:51,073
Speaker 7: I think speaking hypothetical.

584
00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:53,194
Speaker 6: I think if he played every game, they'd have five

585
00:25:53,234 --> 00:25:57,313
Speaker 6: more wins, especially sause I don't have any more, you know,

586
00:25:57,513 --> 00:26:00,073
Speaker 6: like evidence that that would be the case. Then I

587
00:26:00,114 --> 00:26:05,234
Speaker 6: know that you're not saying you'll have to jog, but

588
00:26:05,273 --> 00:26:06,914
Speaker 6: I think it's equally silly.

589
00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:07,913
Speaker 7: You'll have to jog my memory.

590
00:26:07,954 --> 00:26:10,593
Speaker 5: But why why am what I'm saying is silly?

591
00:26:10,714 --> 00:26:12,714
Speaker 6: I don't because you don't, because that's why I ask

592
00:26:12,793 --> 00:26:14,313
Speaker 6: you if you had anything to go on, and.

593
00:26:15,394 --> 00:26:17,354
Speaker 5: We have nothing to go on with anything. We don't

594
00:26:17,394 --> 00:26:19,234
Speaker 5: have all the infor like so like.

595
00:26:19,313 --> 00:26:21,274
Speaker 6: But but the information that I'm going on is he's

596
00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:23,273
Speaker 6: not on the injury port, so he's not. I could

597
00:26:23,313 --> 00:26:24,634
Speaker 6: sit here's a healthy scratch.

598
00:26:24,714 --> 00:26:26,673
Speaker 5: I can sit here and say Scott Peters is not

599
00:26:26,714 --> 00:26:29,954
Speaker 5: a good offensive line coach according to you, that's silly.

600
00:26:30,073 --> 00:26:32,593
Speaker 6: Okay, So that's not silly. You're basing down on the

601
00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:35,553
Speaker 6: performance of the offensive line and how many and how

602
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:36,754
Speaker 6: many mental mistakes they've.

603
00:26:36,634 --> 00:26:38,353
Speaker 5: Had, And I was basing it on the performance of

604
00:26:38,394 --> 00:26:39,073
Speaker 5: Money Mopoo.

605
00:26:39,114 --> 00:26:41,793
Speaker 6: Except for the Moni map Poo hasn't played until Sunday.

606
00:26:42,154 --> 00:26:44,194
Speaker 6: Except for the first game when he played every snap

607
00:26:44,234 --> 00:26:45,194
Speaker 6: when he was healthy.

608
00:26:44,954 --> 00:26:48,033
Speaker 5: He was playing he played then is his role.

609
00:26:48,313 --> 00:26:49,193
Speaker 6: Kind of disappeared?

610
00:26:49,273 --> 00:26:49,793
Speaker 5: Why?

611
00:26:49,954 --> 00:26:51,954
Speaker 6: I don't know, This is my point.

612
00:26:51,833 --> 00:26:55,593
Speaker 7: Okay, jog my memory. When we were without both Dugger

613
00:26:55,874 --> 00:26:58,234
Speaker 7: and Peppers, what was his playing time?

614
00:26:58,353 --> 00:27:00,833
Speaker 6: Like that's what he played a lot, Like Peppers was

615
00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:03,194
Speaker 6: out the whole time because he got for weeks, ye

616
00:27:03,353 --> 00:27:06,033
Speaker 6: for a week, for a long time, and so he

617
00:27:06,434 --> 00:27:08,793
Speaker 6: came back off the injury and played like if you

618
00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:12,594
Speaker 6: recall like every snap of his first game back. Now,

619
00:27:12,634 --> 00:27:14,634
Speaker 6: I don't think he played particularly great, but I thought

620
00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:17,594
Speaker 6: it was impressive that he did such a full workload.

621
00:27:19,154 --> 00:27:22,434
Speaker 6: Then he got hurt and I thought that wasn't Now

622
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:25,154
Speaker 6: here's what I'd be willing to say that I might

623
00:27:25,313 --> 00:27:27,954
Speaker 6: be able to go on Fred's side. He's not on

624
00:27:27,954 --> 00:27:30,553
Speaker 6: the injury report anymore, but maybe he's not physically right

625
00:27:31,394 --> 00:27:35,194
Speaker 6: and they wanted to make sure that you know, I

626
00:27:35,194 --> 00:27:36,874
Speaker 6: think he had a neck injury, I want to say,

627
00:27:36,954 --> 00:27:39,673
Speaker 6: which in particular to me, is something you might want

628
00:27:39,714 --> 00:27:42,353
Speaker 6: to err on the side of caution. So maybe that

629
00:27:42,513 --> 00:27:45,674
Speaker 6: had more to do with it. But again, like I'm

630
00:27:45,714 --> 00:27:47,793
Speaker 6: just going off of the information that we do know,

631
00:27:48,073 --> 00:27:51,073
Speaker 6: and that's what I'm trying to base my opinion on.

632
00:27:51,273 --> 00:27:54,073
Speaker 6: Like if you said that Scott Peters thing, I'm not

633
00:27:54,154 --> 00:27:56,553
Speaker 6: just saying that I'm looking at Scott Peters. I don't

634
00:27:56,553 --> 00:27:58,954
Speaker 6: think he's a good coach. No, I'm watching the offensive

635
00:27:58,954 --> 00:28:01,673
Speaker 6: line struggle week after week with a lot of mental

636
00:28:01,714 --> 00:28:04,234
Speaker 6: mistakes with a lot of guys who aren't good with

637
00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:07,833
Speaker 6: mental mistakes. Again, doesn't have anything to do with talent,

638
00:28:08,874 --> 00:28:12,433
Speaker 6: missing guys rushing up on the same tackle and stunt

639
00:28:12,553 --> 00:28:15,354
Speaker 6: that worked in week one is working in week sixteen

640
00:28:15,674 --> 00:28:19,194
Speaker 6: against the same guys. So if I think that he's

641
00:28:19,234 --> 00:28:21,273
Speaker 6: not doing a great job, that's what I'm basing it on,

642
00:28:21,394 --> 00:28:23,754
Speaker 6: not because I have no information. I just said, yeah,

643
00:28:23,754 --> 00:28:24,674
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's a good coach.

644
00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:26,954
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm facing on what I saw from Ma poo

645
00:28:27,033 --> 00:28:30,394
Speaker 5: before before he got he sat and he wasn't playing well.

646
00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:34,954
Speaker 5: Maybe the coaches felt that. Like I said, let's see

647
00:28:34,994 --> 00:28:36,513
Speaker 5: what some other combinations are.

648
00:28:37,553 --> 00:28:39,114
Speaker 6: We don't have to go through this. When the guys

649
00:28:39,114 --> 00:28:41,354
Speaker 6: come back, I'd.

650
00:28:40,914 --> 00:28:43,474
Speaker 5: Just like to get their opinion. Maybe they agree with you, Paul.

651
00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:49,234
Speaker 6: The difference is I don't care if they do or not.

652
00:28:49,874 --> 00:28:54,194
Speaker 5: No, obviously, Jeremiah writes, and I think it's kind of

653
00:28:54,194 --> 00:28:56,714
Speaker 5: funny that Paul's arguing for Mapoo to play when the

654
00:28:56,714 --> 00:28:59,314
Speaker 5: same argument he's making he trash for the same situation

655
00:28:59,394 --> 00:29:01,714
Speaker 5: as Baker. As Paul said, with Baker, if the coach

656
00:29:01,754 --> 00:29:03,594
Speaker 5: is fault, he was doing enough, then he'd be out

657
00:29:03,634 --> 00:29:04,514
Speaker 5: there getting snaps.

658
00:29:04,594 --> 00:29:07,074
Speaker 6: Baker hasn't been a healthy scratch. We don't know active

659
00:29:07,114 --> 00:29:08,074
Speaker 6: in all of these games.

660
00:29:08,194 --> 00:29:10,274
Speaker 5: We don't know what's going on in practice or even

661
00:29:10,314 --> 00:29:12,754
Speaker 5: though I think Mapoo and Baker both should be getting

662
00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,474
Speaker 5: snaps just to see what they have in a real

663
00:29:14,514 --> 00:29:16,834
Speaker 5: game situation and not an If Baker.

664
00:29:16,594 --> 00:29:18,514
Speaker 6: Was a healthy scratch every week, I would say the

665
00:29:18,514 --> 00:29:22,114
Speaker 6: same thing. But he's not. He's been active all these games,

666
00:29:23,234 --> 00:29:23,433
Speaker 6: I know.

667
00:29:23,514 --> 00:29:26,354
Speaker 5: But if he see I would argue, would then with

668
00:29:26,434 --> 00:29:29,433
Speaker 5: you then as well, because if he wasn't active Baker,

669
00:29:29,594 --> 00:29:31,954
Speaker 5: I'd be like, they just don't think he gets it,

670
00:29:32,434 --> 00:29:35,034
Speaker 5: Like he'd be out there if they thought it was

671
00:29:35,074 --> 00:29:36,194
Speaker 5: worth putting him out there.

672
00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:39,434
Speaker 6: No, but if they had. Let's put it this way,

673
00:29:39,874 --> 00:29:42,594
Speaker 6: Baker to me is when they have five receivers in

674
00:29:42,594 --> 00:29:45,714
Speaker 6: the roster, I think they have five active receivers. He's

675
00:29:45,794 --> 00:29:48,954
Speaker 6: number five. Yeah, I don't think Mapu was the last safety, No,

676
00:29:49,114 --> 00:29:51,514
Speaker 6: But that's that that to me is a difference too.

677
00:29:51,954 --> 00:29:54,034
Speaker 6: He's being treated like he's the last season. Well, I mentioned,

678
00:29:54,114 --> 00:29:54,794
Speaker 6: I don't think he is.

679
00:29:54,834 --> 00:29:57,234
Speaker 5: I mentioned it's a numbers game. It's a numbers game

680
00:29:57,274 --> 00:30:01,034
Speaker 5: of wide receiver too. But I like if they if

681
00:30:01,074 --> 00:30:07,113
Speaker 5: they were not dressing Baker all year, my assumption would be,

682
00:30:07,394 --> 00:30:10,074
Speaker 5: and I don't have the information, but my assumption would be,

683
00:30:10,554 --> 00:30:11,954
Speaker 5: he ain't getting it in practice.

684
00:30:12,034 --> 00:30:15,113
Speaker 6: He's not earning any he's not getting into practice, but

685
00:30:15,154 --> 00:30:18,874
Speaker 6: they're still giving them chances. Yeah, that's my point. So

686
00:30:19,034 --> 00:30:23,314
Speaker 6: that's the only way you can find out for sure. Well,

687
00:30:23,434 --> 00:30:24,914
Speaker 6: it's the only way you can find out for sure

688
00:30:24,994 --> 00:30:27,234
Speaker 6: is if well, but if some guys don't practice well.

689
00:30:27,074 --> 00:30:29,194
Speaker 5: I know. But if you're setting a culture that you

690
00:30:29,234 --> 00:30:31,113
Speaker 5: know you earn it in practice and the guy is

691
00:30:31,154 --> 00:30:34,074
Speaker 5: screwing up in practice, you're not setting a good sending

692
00:30:34,074 --> 00:30:35,954
Speaker 5: a good message to the rest of the team. If

693
00:30:35,954 --> 00:30:39,754
Speaker 5: he's getting his chances anyway, that's not I don't think

694
00:30:39,834 --> 00:30:41,114
Speaker 5: that's the way to run your team.

695
00:30:41,154 --> 00:30:44,554
Speaker 6: Again, we're making this assumption now that Madi Map who

696
00:30:44,594 --> 00:30:45,914
Speaker 6: is not practicing.

697
00:30:45,434 --> 00:30:48,954
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. There's some reason why he wasn't

698
00:30:48,994 --> 00:30:52,074
Speaker 5: playing well either. I don't know about the practice. But

699
00:30:52,634 --> 00:30:54,914
Speaker 5: there's some reason why he wasn't dressed, right.

700
00:30:56,874 --> 00:30:57,074
Speaker 8: I have.

701
00:30:57,194 --> 00:30:59,754
Speaker 6: I have absolutely no idea, but I assume there's a reason. Yes,

702
00:30:59,834 --> 00:31:01,754
Speaker 6: I think that's a logical assumption.

703
00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:04,714
Speaker 5: Okay, And whatever that we were assigning it. And all

704
00:31:04,714 --> 00:31:08,634
Speaker 5: I was saying is whatever that reason was. Maybe I'm

705
00:31:08,634 --> 00:31:12,314
Speaker 5: not saying it happened. Maybe having to sit for a

706
00:31:12,394 --> 00:31:16,874
Speaker 5: while helped him light a fire. I'm using Alex's words,

707
00:31:17,394 --> 00:31:19,674
Speaker 5: and it resulted in him having his best game.

708
00:31:19,794 --> 00:31:20,754
Speaker 6: Certainly plausible.

709
00:31:21,354 --> 00:31:23,594
Speaker 5: I mean, it wouldn't be the first time in pro

710
00:31:23,594 --> 00:31:26,474
Speaker 5: sports where somebody got a time out and came back

711
00:31:26,514 --> 00:31:27,034
Speaker 5: with fire.

712
00:31:28,194 --> 00:31:29,154
Speaker 6: Certainly plausible.

713
00:31:29,394 --> 00:31:32,514
Speaker 5: I remember that game, you know, not that Richard Seymour

714
00:31:32,554 --> 00:31:34,873
Speaker 5: ever needed it, but I remember when he got in

715
00:31:34,954 --> 00:31:37,994
Speaker 5: trouble when his dad died and didn't communicate with the

716
00:31:38,034 --> 00:31:41,193
Speaker 5: team about when he was coming back. You know, of

717
00:31:41,194 --> 00:31:44,954
Speaker 5: course they expected him to miss some days, but he

718
00:31:44,954 --> 00:31:47,994
Speaker 5: didn't tell him when he or miscommunicated when he was

719
00:31:48,034 --> 00:31:51,514
Speaker 5: coming back, and they benched him for I don't know

720
00:31:51,674 --> 00:31:54,354
Speaker 5: was first quarter. First quarter. He came back in that

721
00:31:54,474 --> 00:31:58,034
Speaker 5: second quarter like like he was going to just destroy

722
00:31:58,234 --> 00:32:02,994
Speaker 5: the world. You know, he was pissed. Sometimes it works,

723
00:32:03,434 --> 00:32:06,954
Speaker 5: you know anyway, all right? H eight five five pass

724
00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:11,994
Speaker 5: five hundred is the TPX Outline podcast at patriots dot com.

725
00:32:12,394 --> 00:32:14,754
Speaker 5: Is the email address. If you want to sign up

726
00:32:14,754 --> 00:32:18,874
Speaker 5: for the PU newsletter, go to patriots dot com slash

727
00:32:19,194 --> 00:32:22,393
Speaker 5: PU Newsletter you can sign up. Are you gonna have

728
00:32:22,434 --> 00:32:23,354
Speaker 5: a Christmas edition?

729
00:32:23,434 --> 00:32:26,834
Speaker 7: I think we'll do a mini one of two shows, right, yeah, yeah,

730
00:32:26,914 --> 00:32:29,633
Speaker 7: we'll have a little mini one kind of Thanksgiving.

731
00:32:29,194 --> 00:32:32,914
Speaker 5: Esk okay, all right, that'll be coming out Friday. We've

732
00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:35,673
Speaker 5: got calls, we've got emails coming in. We've got the

733
00:32:35,714 --> 00:32:40,194
Speaker 5: guys now today or I should say tomorrow. There's a

734
00:32:40,274 --> 00:32:43,834
Speaker 5: couple of games for on Christmas on Netflix, so today

735
00:32:44,154 --> 00:32:47,754
Speaker 5: we will pick those games, and then on Thursday we'll

736
00:32:47,754 --> 00:32:50,914
Speaker 5: have our normal you know, picks sessions, so we won't

737
00:32:50,954 --> 00:32:53,234
Speaker 5: have to hurry quite as much because we'll have already

738
00:32:53,234 --> 00:32:56,474
Speaker 5: picked two games. You're gonna be watching on Netflix on

739
00:32:56,554 --> 00:32:57,194
Speaker 5: Christmas Day?

740
00:32:58,114 --> 00:33:00,474
Speaker 6: Probably I will put it on. I will likely not

741
00:33:00,554 --> 00:33:02,234
Speaker 6: be watching, but I'll put it on, so it's like

742
00:33:02,594 --> 00:33:05,434
Speaker 6: for everybody that wants to sure background.

743
00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:07,594
Speaker 5: I'll be watching. I don't think they're going to have

744
00:33:07,634 --> 00:33:11,034
Speaker 5: the problems with streaming it that they did with the

745
00:33:11,634 --> 00:33:12,474
Speaker 5: Tyson fight.

746
00:33:12,634 --> 00:33:14,674
Speaker 6: Now, what do you think they fixed it or I

747
00:33:14,714 --> 00:33:16,794
Speaker 6: think people streaming.

748
00:33:16,514 --> 00:33:18,834
Speaker 5: I think both. I think I think they're going to

749
00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:21,913
Speaker 5: figure that out because what I understood for Tyson is

750
00:33:22,034 --> 00:33:28,154
Speaker 5: it wasn't widespread. It was so in clusters in the country,

751
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:31,834
Speaker 5: so certainly where I was living, I had problems. Yeah,

752
00:33:31,874 --> 00:33:35,594
Speaker 5: so they'll look at those areas and they'll they'll load

753
00:33:35,674 --> 00:33:36,594
Speaker 5: balance it better.

754
00:33:36,794 --> 00:33:39,314
Speaker 7: They've done lives like the Brady Roast was live and

755
00:33:39,354 --> 00:33:40,274
Speaker 7: that seemed to go well.

756
00:33:40,394 --> 00:33:42,314
Speaker 5: Yeah, just I don't think a lot of people were

757
00:33:42,314 --> 00:33:43,154
Speaker 5: watching that live.

758
00:33:43,714 --> 00:33:46,594
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, maybe you're not. Maybe you're right. Yeah, yeah,

759
00:33:46,794 --> 00:33:48,873
Speaker 7: I feel like even here some people weren't really like

760
00:33:48,954 --> 00:33:51,434
Speaker 7: excited to tune in that night. But then once I.

761
00:33:51,394 --> 00:33:54,034
Speaker 6: Never believed the numbers. But like the numbers that they

762
00:33:54,154 --> 00:33:58,154
Speaker 6: said for that Tyson Paul fight were like thirty sixty

763
00:33:58,234 --> 00:34:00,754
Speaker 6: six million or something like that. I don't believe it. Yeah,

764
00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:04,234
Speaker 6: I don't believe the numbers that they they tout.

765
00:34:04,354 --> 00:34:06,594
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's like one fifth of the.

766
00:34:06,554 --> 00:34:09,674
Speaker 7: Country I know, and that's not counting the people on

767
00:34:09,674 --> 00:34:10,714
Speaker 7: a leader stream.

768
00:34:10,834 --> 00:34:12,914
Speaker 5: Yeah, Deuce is here.

769
00:34:14,234 --> 00:34:17,594
Speaker 4: Look who's back from the locker room? What was the

770
00:34:17,634 --> 00:34:20,194
Speaker 4: moon where the players friendly to that? None of them

771
00:34:20,234 --> 00:34:25,794
Speaker 4: looked like Derek Henryke What was it like in the.

772
00:34:27,994 --> 00:34:28,074
Speaker 12: Like?

773
00:34:28,474 --> 00:34:32,034
Speaker 13: What was it like in the.

774
00:34:32,994 --> 00:34:33,554
Speaker 10: So nice?

775
00:34:33,674 --> 00:34:34,194
Speaker 5: So nice?

776
00:34:34,634 --> 00:34:37,553
Speaker 10: Hi, everybody doing so great?

777
00:34:37,594 --> 00:34:37,873
Speaker 7: How are you?

778
00:34:37,873 --> 00:34:39,473
Speaker 6: We're doing great? Fred and I had a nice little

779
00:34:39,473 --> 00:34:41,314
Speaker 6: spat on Christmas Eve.

780
00:34:41,554 --> 00:34:50,513
Speaker 10: Yeah, airing agreements, Yeah, no, how novel Uh yeah, just

781
00:34:50,554 --> 00:34:52,993
Speaker 10: got back from the locker room. A lot of Christmas talk,

782
00:34:53,034 --> 00:34:55,033
Speaker 10: of course, favorite movies and those kinds of things. But

783
00:34:55,714 --> 00:34:59,593
Speaker 10: from a football perspective, which interests me besides Derwin James,

784
00:34:59,594 --> 00:35:01,794
Speaker 10: who apparently is the only player on the Chargers that anybody.

785
00:35:01,714 --> 00:35:02,673
Speaker 11: Want me to talk about.

786
00:35:03,354 --> 00:35:05,074
Speaker 6: I'm described there was a football question.

787
00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:07,673
Speaker 10: There were there was, but man Kem White, he ain't

788
00:35:07,714 --> 00:35:11,834
Speaker 10: having it. He ain't having It's no just any any

789
00:35:11,834 --> 00:35:14,354
Speaker 10: good vibes coming out of a game, or you know,

790
00:35:14,393 --> 00:35:18,274
Speaker 10: any positive silver linings, you know, I mean.

791
00:35:18,194 --> 00:35:20,234
Speaker 6: You White just moved up a few notches on my books.

792
00:35:21,114 --> 00:35:22,913
Speaker 10: Season long thing it's been going on. I think I'd

793
00:35:22,953 --> 00:35:24,714
Speaker 10: mentioned it before, and of course it's it's hard when

794
00:35:24,714 --> 00:35:27,314
Speaker 10: you have Kendrick Bourne and Pop Douglas who are just

795
00:35:27,393 --> 00:35:32,594
Speaker 10: by nature happy and outgoing, and you know, but Kendrick

796
00:35:32,594 --> 00:35:34,513
Speaker 10: goes first and he talks a little bit about you know,

797
00:35:34,873 --> 00:35:36,393
Speaker 10: I think we did some things and you know, it's

798
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:39,953
Speaker 10: just really up in the positive. And Keon comes in,

799
00:35:39,994 --> 00:35:42,554
Speaker 10: who of course has a Hall of Fame face already,

800
00:35:42,994 --> 00:35:46,314
Speaker 10: and just every question, no, no silver lines, there's nothing.

801
00:35:46,314 --> 00:35:46,913
Speaker 6: We get paid to.

802
00:35:46,913 --> 00:35:47,794
Speaker 11: Win, we're here to win.

803
00:35:47,994 --> 00:35:48,673
Speaker 10: We didn't win.

804
00:35:48,834 --> 00:35:49,354
Speaker 5: There you go.

805
00:35:50,354 --> 00:35:52,154
Speaker 11: I had a couple of no comments, thank you.

806
00:35:52,834 --> 00:35:54,954
Speaker 10: Why has stopping the run been a problem?

807
00:35:55,034 --> 00:35:55,154
Speaker 3: Is it?

808
00:35:55,234 --> 00:35:55,514
Speaker 6: Scheme?

809
00:35:55,634 --> 00:35:57,594
Speaker 11: Is a personnel? No comment? He had a couple of

810
00:35:57,634 --> 00:35:58,634
Speaker 11: no comments.

811
00:35:58,234 --> 00:36:01,593
Speaker 6: As well, kind of pulling back.

812
00:36:02,514 --> 00:36:05,393
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I think he just didn't really to me,

813
00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:07,194
Speaker 10: the vibe was he just didn't really feel like searching

814
00:36:07,234 --> 00:36:09,714
Speaker 10: for an answer to try to tell you, well.

815
00:36:09,634 --> 00:36:13,034
Speaker 5: It's to answer that without calling out either your or

816
00:36:13,234 --> 00:36:13,513
Speaker 5: your tea.

817
00:36:14,034 --> 00:36:16,754
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of easy. It's everything we're not

818
00:36:17,074 --> 00:36:18,113
Speaker 6: we're not playing well enough.

819
00:36:18,794 --> 00:36:19,433
Speaker 10: You're a pro with this.

820
00:36:19,473 --> 00:36:20,953
Speaker 11: You know that's an easy one hand.

821
00:36:21,154 --> 00:36:24,794
Speaker 6: The no comment is put it on your Yeah, that's

822
00:36:24,794 --> 00:36:26,873
Speaker 6: why I but no comments not a good answer.

823
00:36:27,994 --> 00:36:30,594
Speaker 7: I think key On still has like that that Bill

824
00:36:30,714 --> 00:36:33,473
Speaker 7: rookie in him, and he very much wants to be

825
00:36:33,634 --> 00:36:36,073
Speaker 7: like that too, So it's kind of hard to like

826
00:36:36,154 --> 00:36:37,594
Speaker 7: be that awkward right.

827
00:36:37,473 --> 00:36:41,274
Speaker 5: Well, and also that way from day one exactly.

828
00:36:41,754 --> 00:36:44,274
Speaker 7: That's why he was like like a perfect fit bill

829
00:36:44,354 --> 00:36:46,274
Speaker 7: rookie because he didn't want to give you anything as

830
00:36:46,274 --> 00:36:48,834
Speaker 7: it was. But it's still so awkward to be thinking

831
00:36:49,354 --> 00:36:53,234
Speaker 7: on your toes to answer these questions without giving answers.

832
00:36:53,314 --> 00:36:55,274
Speaker 7: So maybe that was just like his quick default.

833
00:36:55,393 --> 00:36:59,553
Speaker 5: The only thing happy about ke On White is his clothes.

834
00:36:59,674 --> 00:37:04,634
Speaker 7: Also his his little sleeping back situation. He has you

835
00:37:04,873 --> 00:37:09,553
Speaker 7: go by his locker. Okay, you know those big they

836
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:13,073
Speaker 7: have these big I see people on the beach with them,

837
00:37:13,473 --> 00:37:19,033
Speaker 7: but they inflict. It's like an airbed. Keon has one

838
00:37:19,074 --> 00:37:21,073
Speaker 7: posted up in front of his locker and some days

839
00:37:21,114 --> 00:37:22,794
Speaker 7: you go in there and he has a blanket on,

840
00:37:23,114 --> 00:37:25,674
Speaker 7: he have like something over his head and he's knocked

841
00:37:25,674 --> 00:37:30,074
Speaker 7: out and it's like a full bed's it's really funny.

842
00:37:30,154 --> 00:37:30,354
Speaker 11: Yeah.

843
00:37:30,354 --> 00:37:33,114
Speaker 10: So he did have one Christmas answer, which was that

844
00:37:33,114 --> 00:37:34,513
Speaker 10: he would his parents would get in presence, and he

845
00:37:34,514 --> 00:37:36,194
Speaker 10: said he would play with the box more than he

846
00:37:36,194 --> 00:37:37,873
Speaker 10: would the toy. He's like I was an outdoor kid,

847
00:37:37,994 --> 00:37:39,834
Speaker 10: I'd always end up playing with the box and being

848
00:37:39,834 --> 00:37:42,234
Speaker 10: creative with it. So he's really a unique guy. I mean,

849
00:37:42,274 --> 00:37:43,634
Speaker 10: I think you know, you look at his face, you

850
00:37:43,634 --> 00:37:43,953
Speaker 10: look at me.

851
00:37:44,234 --> 00:37:45,354
Speaker 11: He just seems like a you know.

852
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:48,074
Speaker 10: Stereotypical kind of tough football player, but he's got a

853
00:37:48,154 --> 00:37:52,394
Speaker 10: lot of stuff going on, a lot of interest.

854
00:37:52,594 --> 00:37:55,634
Speaker 7: He's a little shy, but he's really thoughtful. Like I

855
00:37:55,674 --> 00:37:56,834
Speaker 7: really enjoyed talking to him.

856
00:37:56,913 --> 00:38:01,314
Speaker 10: Yeah, well he uh yeah, he's not happy, that's for sure.

857
00:38:01,354 --> 00:38:03,473
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, look, I Julanie Tovai, I think

858
00:38:03,554 --> 00:38:05,834
Speaker 10: last week I came in and said it was similarly

859
00:38:05,913 --> 00:38:08,074
Speaker 10: like just frustrated and you know, maybe that's more of

860
00:38:08,074 --> 00:38:11,433
Speaker 10: a defense offense kind of personality thing, but yeah, he

861
00:38:11,514 --> 00:38:13,473
Speaker 10: that definitely stood out to me today he was not

862
00:38:13,554 --> 00:38:17,354
Speaker 10: having it okay. And otherwise it was u you know,

863
00:38:17,354 --> 00:38:19,434
Speaker 10: a lot of energy in the in the locker room itself,

864
00:38:19,473 --> 00:38:21,794
Speaker 10: a lot of guys you know, chatting it up. Just

865
00:38:21,873 --> 00:38:23,953
Speaker 10: you know, you felt kind of a little bit like

866
00:38:23,994 --> 00:38:25,714
Speaker 10: they're going to get a day off tomorrow. Let's get

867
00:38:25,714 --> 00:38:27,393
Speaker 10: out there, get some get some work in and make

868
00:38:27,433 --> 00:38:29,234
Speaker 10: sure we make anybody.

869
00:38:28,834 --> 00:38:33,234
Speaker 5: To say what their plans were like is uh, you know, Dietrich,

870
00:38:33,274 --> 00:38:35,114
Speaker 5: why is hosting a bunch of people? Anything?

871
00:38:35,194 --> 00:38:38,073
Speaker 10: No, no, nothing, nothing, nothing like that that that I heard.

872
00:38:38,514 --> 00:38:40,154
Speaker 10: You know, it just sounded generally like the guys were

873
00:38:40,194 --> 00:38:42,354
Speaker 10: just reading like a Bob Hope Ditrich.

874
00:38:42,393 --> 00:38:43,674
Speaker 6: Why celebretty Christmas?

875
00:38:43,873 --> 00:38:46,834
Speaker 5: Right? Oh woa, whoa whoa.

876
00:38:47,913 --> 00:38:49,234
Speaker 11: So yeah that was what was going on in the

877
00:38:49,274 --> 00:38:49,674
Speaker 11: locker room.

878
00:38:49,674 --> 00:38:52,114
Speaker 5: And how did you make your way into the video?

879
00:38:52,194 --> 00:38:53,873
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, yeah that's where that so that's where all

880
00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:55,674
Speaker 10: the So I were there.

881
00:38:55,514 --> 00:38:56,633
Speaker 5: That's why I were there.

882
00:38:56,674 --> 00:38:59,314
Speaker 10: I was there for the first, you know, three interviews,

883
00:38:59,314 --> 00:39:00,634
Speaker 10: the only I think they only did three. So and

884
00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:02,834
Speaker 10: then made my way over to the locker room. Took

885
00:39:02,834 --> 00:39:04,873
Speaker 10: a tempt check, you know, make sure I got a

886
00:39:04,913 --> 00:39:07,554
Speaker 10: good a vibey. I mean, I got a song about it.

887
00:39:07,594 --> 00:39:09,393
Speaker 10: I got to come in here and deliver the movie.

888
00:39:09,433 --> 00:39:11,434
Speaker 5: You've got to actually be in there. I gotta be ready.

889
00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:13,194
Speaker 5: I can't just go to come back from the locker

890
00:39:13,314 --> 00:39:15,634
Speaker 5: room interview if you haven't been exactly exactly.

891
00:39:15,754 --> 00:39:16,393
Speaker 6: So.

892
00:39:16,393 --> 00:39:18,794
Speaker 10: So yeah, yeah, it's good, good, good stuff. We'll see

893
00:39:18,953 --> 00:39:20,473
Speaker 10: a little cold out there, a little snowy. Looks like

894
00:39:20,514 --> 00:39:21,714
Speaker 10: they're gonna have a fun practice.

895
00:39:21,834 --> 00:39:22,633
Speaker 5: Is it snowing now?

896
00:39:23,034 --> 00:39:25,034
Speaker 10: It's still kind of spitting out there.

897
00:39:26,433 --> 00:39:29,874
Speaker 5: All right. Eight five five PATS five hundred is the TPX.

898
00:39:29,953 --> 00:39:35,554
Speaker 6: Walk over to the Press conference Today.

899
00:39:31,433 --> 00:39:36,553
Speaker 5: And podcast at Patriots dot Com is the email address,

900
00:39:37,154 --> 00:39:40,873
Speaker 5: Speed writes in he says, yay, Alex, Hey, he says Mark,

901
00:39:40,953 --> 00:39:45,154
Speaker 5: this is the day Alex finally and successfully injected herself

902
00:39:45,194 --> 00:39:50,034
Speaker 5: into a Paul Fred I think I haven't even done that.

903
00:39:50,314 --> 00:39:51,154
Speaker 5: You did a great job.

904
00:39:51,234 --> 00:39:53,154
Speaker 7: I had to try a couple of times and eventually

905
00:39:53,234 --> 00:39:53,754
Speaker 7: broke through.

906
00:39:55,794 --> 00:40:02,633
Speaker 10: Like, are no side, he says.

907
00:40:02,714 --> 00:40:05,794
Speaker 5: Apparently Paul gets to speak in hypotheticals without being dubbed

908
00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:09,033
Speaker 5: a silly person. But anyone else who speaks and hypotheticals

909
00:40:09,114 --> 00:40:11,794
Speaker 5: is indeed a silly person. It's clear as day, Fred,

910
00:40:11,794 --> 00:40:14,434
Speaker 5: you're a hopelessly silly man. You should wear a silly

911
00:40:14,473 --> 00:40:19,674
Speaker 5: hat and continue your silly hypotheticals. Wow, I will, I

912
00:40:19,714 --> 00:40:20,553
Speaker 5: will consider.

913
00:40:20,274 --> 00:40:22,314
Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with the argument itself.

914
00:40:22,354 --> 00:40:24,394
Speaker 5: I will continue my silly hypotheticals.

915
00:40:24,393 --> 00:40:27,274
Speaker 6: But I get annoyed when things get attached to me

916
00:40:28,354 --> 00:40:32,634
Speaker 6: that are the opposite of what I said. I was

917
00:40:32,674 --> 00:40:37,354
Speaker 6: critical of the hypothetical, and I made up a ridiculous hypothetically.

918
00:40:38,034 --> 00:40:41,193
Speaker 6: I made up a ridiculous hypothetical to point out how

919
00:40:41,234 --> 00:40:44,634
Speaker 6: silly it is when you have no idea. So I

920
00:40:44,674 --> 00:40:45,593
Speaker 6: didn't here's what I said.

921
00:40:45,634 --> 00:40:49,594
Speaker 9: I didn't say. I didn't say hypothetical That's.

922
00:40:49,393 --> 00:40:51,513
Speaker 5: What I said. They were talking about Mardy Mopul and

923
00:40:51,554 --> 00:40:53,553
Speaker 5: we both all agreed that he had a good game,

924
00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:57,274
Speaker 5: maybe his best this season. And I said, for whatever

925
00:40:57,314 --> 00:41:01,234
Speaker 5: reason he hasn't been playing, maybe it lit a fire

926
00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:04,834
Speaker 5: under him and it resulted him having I think, his

927
00:41:04,834 --> 00:41:09,433
Speaker 5: best game this season. And you know, I made, you know,

928
00:41:09,594 --> 00:41:13,513
Speaker 5: hypothetical like maybe he wasn't getting it. The coaches thought

929
00:41:13,594 --> 00:41:16,314
Speaker 5: he should have been better. We know, and this is

930
00:41:16,354 --> 00:41:19,513
Speaker 5: my opinion, that he hadn't been playing well when he

931
00:41:19,554 --> 00:41:21,993
Speaker 5: did have a chance to play up until the point

932
00:41:21,994 --> 00:41:25,513
Speaker 5: where he was not dressed. So maybe, you know, that

933
00:41:25,594 --> 00:41:27,673
Speaker 5: lit a fire under him. That's all I said. Paul said,

934
00:41:27,714 --> 00:41:28,314
Speaker 5: that was silly.

935
00:41:29,473 --> 00:41:32,114
Speaker 6: I said, if we're just going to sign a reason

936
00:41:32,154 --> 00:41:34,673
Speaker 6: that he didn't play, I think, without knowing, I think

937
00:41:34,674 --> 00:41:36,674
Speaker 6: that's silly. So I said, I think if he had

938
00:41:36,674 --> 00:41:38,314
Speaker 6: played all the games, they would have won them all,

939
00:41:38,674 --> 00:41:42,634
Speaker 6: which I think is equally silly, and somehow I'm allowed

940
00:41:42,674 --> 00:41:42,913
Speaker 6: to make that.

941
00:41:43,393 --> 00:41:44,714
Speaker 5: I think what I just said was silly.

942
00:41:44,754 --> 00:41:46,153
Speaker 10: No, no, we explained it didn't didn't.

943
00:41:46,194 --> 00:41:47,394
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I said.

944
00:41:48,554 --> 00:41:50,274
Speaker 6: What do you want me to tell you? I disagree

945
00:41:50,314 --> 00:41:52,794
Speaker 6: with you. I don't know. I just don't know how, like,

946
00:41:53,393 --> 00:41:55,274
Speaker 6: but I don't know how you can make an argument

947
00:41:55,314 --> 00:41:57,754
Speaker 6: for a second year player not playing. I just don't

948
00:41:57,794 --> 00:42:00,154
Speaker 6: get it. I don't I'll never get it, so we

949
00:42:00,154 --> 00:42:01,553
Speaker 6: can move on. I don't get it.

950
00:42:01,594 --> 00:42:03,834
Speaker 5: He thinks the coaches made a mistake.

951
00:42:03,873 --> 00:42:05,593
Speaker 6: But yes, that's all I'm saying.

952
00:42:05,594 --> 00:42:07,754
Speaker 10: All right, okay, okay, and there it is, and there

953
00:42:07,754 --> 00:42:08,033
Speaker 10: it is.

954
00:42:08,074 --> 00:42:10,553
Speaker 6: I'm not telling you how well we played. I don't

955
00:42:10,594 --> 00:42:13,154
Speaker 6: recall him playing so poorly, but I don't recall him

956
00:42:13,194 --> 00:42:16,314
Speaker 6: ever doing anything remotely as well as he did on Sunday.

957
00:42:16,354 --> 00:42:17,473
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he played well.

958
00:42:18,274 --> 00:42:20,433
Speaker 6: To this, I don't think anybody has played well on

959
00:42:20,514 --> 00:42:22,234
Speaker 6: the team on a consistent base.

960
00:42:22,754 --> 00:42:26,194
Speaker 5: Is pretty good. You know, you're right, he's pretty good.

961
00:42:26,354 --> 00:42:26,754
Speaker 6: That's it.

962
00:42:26,873 --> 00:42:28,954
Speaker 5: Like if I said Gonzales is playing well, you wouldn't.

963
00:42:28,953 --> 00:42:31,194
Speaker 6: I would. I would say absolutely, he's played very well,

964
00:42:31,314 --> 00:42:35,634
Speaker 6: especially especially over the last month. I think he's been outstanding.

965
00:42:35,834 --> 00:42:38,113
Speaker 10: Just just walk away, just walk away.

966
00:42:38,274 --> 00:42:41,553
Speaker 6: But that's it. I don't think you can have any

967
00:42:41,554 --> 00:42:43,953
Speaker 6: worse safety play than they've had over the last three

968
00:42:43,994 --> 00:42:47,274
Speaker 6: games before this one. And Mapu was a healthy scratch.

969
00:42:47,674 --> 00:42:49,034
Speaker 5: Right, So what does that say?

970
00:42:49,234 --> 00:42:51,714
Speaker 6: I don't know, And I'm not going to pretend to

971
00:42:51,714 --> 00:42:57,714
Speaker 6: try to make up a reason. But what does it say?

972
00:42:59,074 --> 00:43:01,913
Speaker 7: Like he's just trolling, he's no longer actually fighting, and

973
00:43:01,953 --> 00:43:03,674
Speaker 7: like he'll say something to Paul then look at me

974
00:43:03,714 --> 00:43:04,873
Speaker 7: and so egging it on.

975
00:43:05,234 --> 00:43:07,754
Speaker 6: He usually gives me the look first to let me know.

976
00:43:07,754 --> 00:43:09,714
Speaker 7: He's doing it, you know, to just not jump off

977
00:43:09,714 --> 00:43:10,114
Speaker 7: the LANs.

978
00:43:10,873 --> 00:43:15,194
Speaker 5: Chris says, this is triggering memories of parents arguing too.

979
00:43:15,834 --> 00:43:17,674
Speaker 5: It's activating my childhood trauma.

980
00:43:17,714 --> 00:43:21,794
Speaker 6: Please make something Christmas. We got to give you something.

981
00:43:21,794 --> 00:43:25,074
Speaker 7: I already deal with enough. The plate of the child

982
00:43:25,074 --> 00:43:27,913
Speaker 7: of divorce on Christmas Eve, bouncing around everywhere. Now I

983
00:43:27,913 --> 00:43:28,873
Speaker 7: have it here on the show.

984
00:43:29,714 --> 00:43:31,953
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you deal with that too?

985
00:43:32,114 --> 00:43:34,713
Speaker 10: No? No, I just sip by myself at my house

986
00:43:34,714 --> 00:43:35,073
Speaker 10: this year.

987
00:43:35,994 --> 00:43:37,873
Speaker 6: Oh where is it?

988
00:43:40,354 --> 00:43:41,314
Speaker 11: My wife and kids are going to?

989
00:43:43,034 --> 00:43:45,433
Speaker 6: Would you like to come to my Well?

990
00:43:45,473 --> 00:43:46,433
Speaker 11: Damn, Roach had a good joke.

991
00:43:46,473 --> 00:43:47,993
Speaker 10: I told him that, and he just you know, if

992
00:43:47,994 --> 00:43:49,433
Speaker 10: you if you don't have anywhere to go, I'll see

993
00:43:49,433 --> 00:43:50,593
Speaker 10: if steep bird and have any room.

994
00:43:51,834 --> 00:43:53,073
Speaker 11: I joke by it, that's good.

995
00:43:53,433 --> 00:43:55,633
Speaker 7: I wouldn't want anyone because I was like.

996
00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:58,033
Speaker 10: Oh damn, I you know, go to my sister, you know,

997
00:43:58,074 --> 00:43:59,834
Speaker 10: I mean I'm gonna have Christmas morning with my family

998
00:43:59,913 --> 00:44:01,633
Speaker 10: and then wife and kids getting on a plane.

999
00:44:01,754 --> 00:44:04,514
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even tell anyone I was alone. I would

1000
00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:07,674
Speaker 7: just own everybody exists in my house all day watching,

1001
00:44:07,754 --> 00:44:08,714
Speaker 7: no one bothering me.

1002
00:44:09,234 --> 00:44:10,913
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I just don't even like to be

1003
00:44:10,953 --> 00:44:14,434
Speaker 10: in your own house A long, footballs and you underwear whatever?

1004
00:44:14,873 --> 00:44:19,554
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, Matt way more than me and Fred fighting.

1005
00:44:20,274 --> 00:44:21,114
Speaker 5: Oh God, I feel like.

1006
00:44:21,114 --> 00:44:23,674
Speaker 10: I need to do the the Tom Cruise and risky business,

1007
00:44:23,674 --> 00:44:27,033
Speaker 10: you know, like slide to my Actually.

1008
00:44:29,354 --> 00:44:31,194
Speaker 6: I would watch the two games on Netflix if I

1009
00:44:31,354 --> 00:44:32,074
Speaker 6: was myself.

1010
00:44:33,194 --> 00:44:34,754
Speaker 11: I'm bringing other TVs into.

1011
00:44:34,554 --> 00:44:37,393
Speaker 5: The Sure you have food, you know, and everything's close.

1012
00:44:37,433 --> 00:44:38,674
Speaker 11: It's gonna be a lot of order of pizza.

1013
00:44:38,714 --> 00:44:42,433
Speaker 10: And yeah, my wife, God, he can keep the house neat.

1014
00:44:42,514 --> 00:44:43,634
Speaker 6: I'm by myself.

1015
00:44:43,714 --> 00:44:48,593
Speaker 7: Sure, I think I can going to come home stack.

1016
00:44:50,994 --> 00:44:56,554
Speaker 5: Over All Right, let's get to the tp X hotline.

1017
00:44:57,114 --> 00:44:59,274
Speaker 5: Christians in Virginia. What's up, Christian?

1018
00:45:00,994 --> 00:45:02,073
Speaker 14: Hey, how's it going?

1019
00:45:02,274 --> 00:45:02,634
Speaker 5: Okay?

1020
00:45:02,994 --> 00:45:05,074
Speaker 14: Well, I got a question for you. What would it

1021
00:45:05,154 --> 00:45:09,114
Speaker 14: cost for you to trade down in the draft? Now

1022
00:45:09,154 --> 00:45:10,033
Speaker 14: I'm just busting.

1023
00:45:12,114 --> 00:45:18,714
Speaker 6: No, I mean again after no, no, I remember, and

1024
00:45:18,913 --> 00:45:21,673
Speaker 6: I just I thought that was actually a serious question,

1025
00:45:21,794 --> 00:45:25,714
Speaker 6: like what would it take. I don't know. I don't

1026
00:45:25,754 --> 00:45:26,354
Speaker 6: know how much.

1027
00:45:26,514 --> 00:45:28,834
Speaker 5: Well, is there any other team with two first round

1028
00:45:28,913 --> 00:45:29,754
Speaker 5: draft picks this year?

1029
00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:31,913
Speaker 15: I don't think, right, I don't believe so at the time,

1030
00:45:32,114 --> 00:45:34,513
Speaker 15: But like, you know, a two this year and a

1031
00:45:34,594 --> 00:45:38,873
Speaker 15: one next year, I guess yeah would be my minimum, right, Yeah,

1032
00:45:39,393 --> 00:45:40,194
Speaker 15: to switch spots.

1033
00:45:40,314 --> 00:45:43,594
Speaker 14: No, but just my my other thing. Based off the

1034
00:45:43,634 --> 00:45:46,674
Speaker 14: postgame show, I think. I know I've called in before

1035
00:45:46,714 --> 00:45:50,714
Speaker 14: about getting another running back, and I think now after

1036
00:45:51,953 --> 00:45:55,393
Speaker 14: Remonders continued fumbles like it, it might actually be really

1037
00:45:55,473 --> 00:45:58,553
Speaker 14: beneficial just to, like Alex said about the other thing,

1038
00:45:58,674 --> 00:46:01,794
Speaker 14: light a fire under him and kind of get him

1039
00:46:01,834 --> 00:46:05,154
Speaker 14: a reason to lock in over over the off season

1040
00:46:05,234 --> 00:46:06,913
Speaker 14: and get better with that.

1041
00:46:08,473 --> 00:46:12,354
Speaker 6: See now, Fred, Yeah, if reminder Stevenson were a healthy

1042
00:46:12,393 --> 00:46:16,593
Speaker 6: scratch on Saturday and then and then he had no No, no,

1043
00:46:16,354 --> 00:46:19,474
Speaker 6: I wouldn't. But if that happened and then he had

1044
00:46:19,873 --> 00:46:23,314
Speaker 6: like one hundred and eighty yards in the finale, I

1045
00:46:23,314 --> 00:46:27,673
Speaker 6: think you are hypotheatal level. You're hypothetical of he got

1046
00:46:27,674 --> 00:46:29,873
Speaker 6: a firal in under him, I think would make a

1047
00:46:29,913 --> 00:46:30,594
Speaker 6: lot more sense.

1048
00:46:30,634 --> 00:46:36,154
Speaker 5: Okay, well, I don't know that's cool, all right? Anything

1049
00:46:36,154 --> 00:46:39,714
Speaker 5: else Christian.

1050
00:46:40,114 --> 00:46:41,794
Speaker 10: I was I was thinking a little bit about that

1051
00:46:41,834 --> 00:46:44,914
Speaker 10: call last night, and it's just like for the callers

1052
00:46:44,913 --> 00:46:47,113
Speaker 10: to call in and ask us about these draft things,

1053
00:46:47,114 --> 00:46:50,593
Speaker 10: it's like, I'm only respect but like and it's not

1054
00:46:50,634 --> 00:46:52,913
Speaker 10: even not being prepared. It's like, we got to talk

1055
00:46:52,953 --> 00:46:55,993
Speaker 10: about this down to two shows a week, like for

1056
00:46:56,034 --> 00:46:58,073
Speaker 10: four months, so we can't just sit here and go

1057
00:46:58,154 --> 00:46:59,234
Speaker 10: that's Travis Hunters and.

1058
00:47:00,794 --> 00:47:01,274
Speaker 11: Four months.

1059
00:47:01,554 --> 00:47:06,393
Speaker 7: We started the draft talk last year. So it's like

1060
00:47:06,433 --> 00:47:07,834
Speaker 7: that I think gave us a little peta.

1061
00:47:08,114 --> 00:47:10,433
Speaker 5: But I do think it's a good questions to ask

1062
00:47:10,634 --> 00:47:14,354
Speaker 5: because a lot of people think the real play is

1063
00:47:14,393 --> 00:47:16,994
Speaker 5: to move down. Okay, so what would you be willing

1064
00:47:17,034 --> 00:47:17,873
Speaker 5: to move down for?

1065
00:47:18,393 --> 00:47:20,873
Speaker 6: And I forget now when Christian was talking about it

1066
00:47:20,994 --> 00:47:23,154
Speaker 6: was he's saying he wouldn't he wouldn't move down, And

1067
00:47:23,194 --> 00:47:24,634
Speaker 6: I said, how do you know? Like you don't know

1068
00:47:24,674 --> 00:47:25,673
Speaker 6: what you offer?

1069
00:47:25,834 --> 00:47:26,073
Speaker 8: Right?

1070
00:47:26,114 --> 00:47:28,433
Speaker 5: What's the offer like if someone's gonna give you a

1071
00:47:28,514 --> 00:47:31,074
Speaker 5: king's ransom? Because you know, but that.

1072
00:47:31,154 --> 00:47:33,674
Speaker 6: Was a good question. What would the king's ransom be?

1073
00:47:33,754 --> 00:47:35,834
Speaker 10: I don't like the callers are going to call and

1074
00:47:35,913 --> 00:47:37,953
Speaker 10: ask this. It's like, these are all the discussions and

1075
00:47:37,994 --> 00:47:39,834
Speaker 10: the debates and that's like, what's gonna make the off

1076
00:47:39,873 --> 00:47:42,073
Speaker 10: season fun is you know, not just being sitting here

1077
00:47:42,074 --> 00:47:43,794
Speaker 10: for the next four months and just not engaging.

1078
00:47:44,634 --> 00:47:47,234
Speaker 5: I just say, it's a team with a you know,

1079
00:47:47,873 --> 00:47:54,554
Speaker 5: a pick around twenty oh getting there first, getting their second,

1080
00:47:54,594 --> 00:47:56,993
Speaker 5: and getting their first next year. Would that be worth it?

1081
00:47:57,514 --> 00:47:57,674
Speaker 8: No?

1082
00:47:57,714 --> 00:47:58,754
Speaker 6: They need I need more to go.

1083
00:47:59,674 --> 00:48:02,993
Speaker 11: You need more than that pick twenty now even go from.

1084
00:48:02,674 --> 00:48:03,434
Speaker 6: Two to twenty.

1085
00:48:03,554 --> 00:48:03,954
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1086
00:48:03,794 --> 00:48:06,634
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to cost you a couple a couple

1087
00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:10,274
Speaker 6: of you know, and then uh maybe even a player. Yeah,

1088
00:48:10,714 --> 00:48:12,393
Speaker 6: you know that's a big drop that.

1089
00:48:12,634 --> 00:48:14,674
Speaker 10: And that and that in that case. Yeah, well, in

1090
00:48:14,714 --> 00:48:17,354
Speaker 10: that case, I'm with Christian on like, you do need talent.

1091
00:48:17,433 --> 00:48:19,513
Speaker 10: Like it's not about hey, let's maximize this draft and

1092
00:48:19,554 --> 00:48:21,754
Speaker 10: fill a bunch of you know holes. It's like you

1093
00:48:21,794 --> 00:48:23,873
Speaker 10: need guys who move the needle, who you're gonna slide in.

1094
00:48:23,913 --> 00:48:26,433
Speaker 10: And it's not like, Okay, great, here's a safety for

1095
00:48:26,554 --> 00:48:28,954
Speaker 10: you know, like, just get guys that are in positions

1096
00:48:28,953 --> 00:48:30,154
Speaker 10: in need that you know are going to come in

1097
00:48:30,194 --> 00:48:31,953
Speaker 10: and have an inside track to play and move the

1098
00:48:31,994 --> 00:48:32,513
Speaker 10: needle much.

1099
00:48:32,634 --> 00:48:33,633
Speaker 11: That's the most important part.

1100
00:48:33,514 --> 00:48:37,634
Speaker 5: Of Deshawn's in West Virginia. What's up to Shawns up

1101
00:48:37,714 --> 00:48:40,633
Speaker 5: to Virginia and what do you say?

1102
00:48:40,913 --> 00:48:45,433
Speaker 6: Virginia Virginia. But what happened to your call today your draft?

1103
00:48:45,554 --> 00:48:48,074
Speaker 16: I don't know, Like I was talking, uh, I was like,

1104
00:48:48,473 --> 00:48:49,554
Speaker 16: I'm gonna sure what happened.

1105
00:48:50,154 --> 00:48:50,393
Speaker 7: Uh.

1106
00:48:50,433 --> 00:48:52,954
Speaker 16: But basically, well, basically what I wanted to talk about

1107
00:48:53,274 --> 00:48:57,314
Speaker 16: was that when it comes to the giant situation, like

1108
00:48:57,913 --> 00:48:59,674
Speaker 16: I don't think people are really taking it seriously. And

1109
00:48:59,994 --> 00:49:02,194
Speaker 16: when it comes to the premium we have it the joans.

1110
00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:05,194
Speaker 16: When it come to quarterback, there'll be other teams behind

1111
00:49:05,194 --> 00:49:07,834
Speaker 16: those other teams fighting to get.

1112
00:49:07,594 --> 00:49:08,154
Speaker 6: In that spot.

1113
00:49:08,354 --> 00:49:11,274
Speaker 16: Think about a quarter seconds so so would that so

1114
00:49:11,274 --> 00:49:13,154
Speaker 16: would that be in the cake? That means see, other

1115
00:49:13,194 --> 00:49:15,074
Speaker 16: teams would be willing to try to lead get it

1116
00:49:15,114 --> 00:49:18,553
Speaker 16: to that second spot. If the case happened to be

1117
00:49:18,674 --> 00:49:21,433
Speaker 16: like take for instance, the Giant wise beat the Tennessee Titans,

1118
00:49:21,433 --> 00:49:23,473
Speaker 16: Tyson would be in that third spot. They don't needed

1119
00:49:23,554 --> 00:49:27,314
Speaker 16: a quarterback, but it would be others there, maybe Cleveland

1120
00:49:27,473 --> 00:49:31,033
Speaker 16: or whatever quarterback. So you don't want to leave repart

1121
00:49:31,074 --> 00:49:32,114
Speaker 16: of them to take you to your quarterback.

1122
00:49:32,953 --> 00:49:35,993
Speaker 5: I just don't know how they view the two quarterbacks

1123
00:49:35,994 --> 00:49:38,114
Speaker 5: that are going to be up there. Perfect you know,

1124
00:49:38,354 --> 00:49:39,354
Speaker 5: I don't know their opinion.

1125
00:49:39,514 --> 00:49:41,794
Speaker 6: Like if you were if this were let's let's say

1126
00:49:41,794 --> 00:49:44,834
Speaker 6: this was last year and instead of the Drake May class,

1127
00:49:44,873 --> 00:49:48,234
Speaker 6: there was these two quarterbacks and you were three, would

1128
00:49:48,274 --> 00:49:50,153
Speaker 6: you be clamoring to move up to two to take

1129
00:49:50,194 --> 00:49:50,874
Speaker 6: one of these guys?

1130
00:49:50,953 --> 00:49:51,033
Speaker 12: Right?

1131
00:49:51,034 --> 00:49:51,674
Speaker 6: I wouldn't know.

1132
00:49:52,154 --> 00:49:53,673
Speaker 10: And you, I mean, you know the quarterbacks a little

1133
00:49:53,674 --> 00:49:54,873
Speaker 10: better than I do. I mean, I've watched some of

1134
00:49:54,873 --> 00:49:58,393
Speaker 10: the non quarterback positions, but are they would you tell me?

1135
00:49:58,473 --> 00:50:01,873
Speaker 10: Would there be would would Travis Hunter be more desirable

1136
00:50:01,873 --> 00:50:03,433
Speaker 10: for some teams to trade up than cam Warton?

1137
00:50:03,514 --> 00:50:07,594
Speaker 6: I personally would rather have Travis Hunter. But Deshaun's not wrong.

1138
00:50:07,834 --> 00:50:11,433
Speaker 6: Like the Raiders or Cleveland or you know, Tennessee, one

1139
00:50:11,473 --> 00:50:14,513
Speaker 6: of these teams, one of these teams might Giants might

1140
00:50:14,514 --> 00:50:16,473
Speaker 6: get desper Well, the Giants are one, so they don't

1141
00:50:16,473 --> 00:50:19,393
Speaker 6: know that worry about it, and I think they're going

1142
00:50:19,473 --> 00:50:23,754
Speaker 6: to be one based on the way it looks. But

1143
00:50:24,074 --> 00:50:26,674
Speaker 6: one of the teams that DeShawn might say, no, I

1144
00:50:26,754 --> 00:50:28,433
Speaker 6: need cam Ward. I got to get up and get

1145
00:50:28,433 --> 00:50:30,714
Speaker 6: one of these quarterbacks. I wouldn't. I would search for

1146
00:50:30,714 --> 00:50:34,594
Speaker 6: the Sam Darnold and just wait until the draft class

1147
00:50:34,994 --> 00:50:37,913
Speaker 6: is more conducive to someone like like what happened this

1148
00:50:38,114 --> 00:50:40,914
Speaker 6: past year, but but you know, people do dumb things.

1149
00:50:41,074 --> 00:50:43,633
Speaker 5: The counter argument to that is, like you like, if

1150
00:50:43,634 --> 00:50:47,714
Speaker 5: you take the bridge quarterback to wait for a better

1151
00:50:47,794 --> 00:50:50,274
Speaker 5: draft class, there's no telling that you'll be able to

1152
00:50:50,314 --> 00:50:51,354
Speaker 5: get the guy that you want.

1153
00:50:51,834 --> 00:50:54,473
Speaker 6: There's no guarantees. But I'm saying, if I know I

1154
00:50:54,473 --> 00:50:56,513
Speaker 6: don't want this guy, yeah, now if you want them,

1155
00:50:56,873 --> 00:50:58,913
Speaker 6: but don't talk yourself into him. Yeah, I guess what

1156
00:50:58,913 --> 00:51:01,474
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But Deshaun's right out of all those teams,

1157
00:51:02,194 --> 00:51:07,594
Speaker 6: you know, Raiders, Cleveland, Tennessee, like someone's gonna want someone.

1158
00:51:08,074 --> 00:51:10,874
Speaker 6: Someone's going to say, yeah, cam Ward, I can should

1159
00:51:10,913 --> 00:51:12,393
Speaker 6: do with Sanders. I could do it with him.

1160
00:51:12,514 --> 00:51:14,553
Speaker 10: I feel like the Pictriots have somehow used up all

1161
00:51:14,594 --> 00:51:16,393
Speaker 10: their like good luck over the last twenty years. But

1162
00:51:16,433 --> 00:51:18,674
Speaker 10: that getting the third overall pick in a year with

1163
00:51:18,714 --> 00:51:20,674
Speaker 10: three quarterbacks who were all, you know, pretty good.

1164
00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:23,473
Speaker 5: Do you think cam Ward has the potential to be

1165
00:51:23,514 --> 00:51:24,513
Speaker 5: as good as Bonnicks?

1166
00:51:27,234 --> 00:51:28,714
Speaker 6: I don't think bo Nicks is all that good.

1167
00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:31,194
Speaker 5: Well that's what well, But but here's the thing. Do

1168
00:51:31,234 --> 00:51:34,314
Speaker 5: you think that the success of guys like bon Knicks

1169
00:51:34,354 --> 00:51:37,194
Speaker 5: this year, like if you get these quarterbacks and you

1170
00:51:37,234 --> 00:51:40,913
Speaker 5: put him in the right situation, they can have success.

1171
00:51:41,194 --> 00:51:43,514
Speaker 6: It's a great point, and I think teams someone.

1172
00:51:43,314 --> 00:51:46,114
Speaker 5: Will and they think we have that right situation.

1173
00:51:45,994 --> 00:51:48,714
Speaker 6: Because because Cam Woods probably more talented than bon Knicks.

1174
00:51:49,594 --> 00:51:51,393
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's as good a player, but

1175
00:51:51,514 --> 00:51:52,794
Speaker 6: he's probably more talented.

1176
00:51:52,913 --> 00:51:55,514
Speaker 10: Do you think the Sam Donald situation as it unfolded

1177
00:51:55,514 --> 00:51:58,554
Speaker 10: this year makes teams a little bit more like encouraged

1178
00:51:58,594 --> 00:52:01,033
Speaker 10: to take a free agency the.

1179
00:52:01,433 --> 00:52:04,194
Speaker 5: Free agent quarterbacks that could be available.

1180
00:52:03,834 --> 00:52:07,634
Speaker 6: Flip side of Kirk Cousins. He's like, so those are

1181
00:52:07,634 --> 00:52:09,794
Speaker 6: two bridge guys. One of them hit and one of

1182
00:52:09,834 --> 00:52:11,394
Speaker 6: them failed miserable.

1183
00:52:11,754 --> 00:52:13,033
Speaker 10: And Donald's a free agent. Both of them.

1184
00:52:13,354 --> 00:52:15,794
Speaker 6: Donald his cousins could be if.

1185
00:52:15,834 --> 00:52:18,633
Speaker 7: Donald came up, though in like, not the best situations,

1186
00:52:18,674 --> 00:52:21,674
Speaker 7: not the best organizations, you know, So it's kind of

1187
00:52:21,754 --> 00:52:25,194
Speaker 7: whereas Kirk Cousins has played in for pretty good franchises,

1188
00:52:25,274 --> 00:52:27,433
Speaker 7: so it's a little different there and older. But I

1189
00:52:28,074 --> 00:52:28,713
Speaker 7: agree with the point.

1190
00:52:28,794 --> 00:52:30,913
Speaker 10: It's funny how it offsets, like, you know, yeah, there's

1191
00:52:31,154 --> 00:52:32,274
Speaker 10: so many If.

1192
00:52:32,114 --> 00:52:34,073
Speaker 6: I were one of those teams, I would rather try

1193
00:52:34,114 --> 00:52:36,674
Speaker 6: to see if I could get a guy, you know,

1194
00:52:36,834 --> 00:52:39,913
Speaker 6: as a reclamation project and one of the one of

1195
00:52:39,953 --> 00:52:42,754
Speaker 6: these two draft picks. But some Fred's right, someone will

1196
00:52:42,754 --> 00:52:43,634
Speaker 6: talk themselves into it.

1197
00:52:44,473 --> 00:52:46,154
Speaker 5: Scott and Wellesley, what's up? Scott?

1198
00:52:46,794 --> 00:52:49,674
Speaker 13: Oh jeez, hey guys, how are you merry Christmas?

1199
00:52:49,873 --> 00:52:50,634
Speaker 7: Scott, Christmas?

1200
00:52:50,634 --> 00:52:51,354
Speaker 10: Merry Christmas?

1201
00:52:51,433 --> 00:52:53,594
Speaker 13: I mean, but Paul looks unbelievable. It looks like you

1202
00:52:53,594 --> 00:52:55,634
Speaker 13: could come a you know, start a game for bu

1203
00:52:55,674 --> 00:52:57,354
Speaker 13: again the way now.

1204
00:52:57,473 --> 00:53:00,553
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he's really He's running.

1205
00:53:00,314 --> 00:53:01,794
Speaker 6: All right, Scott moving along?

1206
00:53:01,873 --> 00:53:04,874
Speaker 14: Yeah, all right, you guys.

1207
00:53:04,913 --> 00:53:07,513
Speaker 13: You know, you know, I think I think the head

1208
00:53:07,514 --> 00:53:09,314
Speaker 13: coach takes a lot of the blame for this year,

1209
00:53:09,393 --> 00:53:11,754
Speaker 13: but not I think it takes too much compared to

1210
00:53:11,794 --> 00:53:14,754
Speaker 13: the player personnel guys. And you know, you look back.

1211
00:53:14,834 --> 00:53:16,633
Speaker 13: You know, the Globe has a good thing every week

1212
00:53:16,674 --> 00:53:20,194
Speaker 13: where essentially, you know, they go through how the rookie

1213
00:53:20,194 --> 00:53:23,074
Speaker 13: class did. So my question for you guys, for the panel,

1214
00:53:23,234 --> 00:53:25,433
Speaker 13: for all four of you, is if you compare this

1215
00:53:25,554 --> 00:53:28,913
Speaker 13: year's draft by setting me aside, because purely from a

1216
00:53:28,953 --> 00:53:31,513
Speaker 13: talent analysis, there wasn't much town analysis to do. He

1217
00:53:31,634 --> 00:53:34,033
Speaker 13: was the obvious third pick in the draft. So if

1218
00:53:34,074 --> 00:53:36,154
Speaker 13: you look at who they picked them this year versus

1219
00:53:36,194 --> 00:53:38,674
Speaker 13: the what most people think is their worst draft in

1220
00:53:38,714 --> 00:53:41,794
Speaker 13: twenty nineteen. How do you think the two compare it

1221
00:53:41,834 --> 00:53:45,234
Speaker 13: when you look at both Wallace, Robinson, Baker, Dial, Milton

1222
00:53:45,314 --> 00:53:51,354
Speaker 13: Bill versus Nikhil Harry, Juwan, Williams, Winnovichvivich, Harris, could Juice,

1223
00:53:51,514 --> 00:53:54,074
Speaker 13: ro Hosts, sit on Pow Rebellion, wepture.

1224
00:53:54,354 --> 00:53:57,234
Speaker 5: That's a bad it's a bad draft. And the jury's out.

1225
00:53:57,433 --> 00:53:59,633
Speaker 5: I mean, the jury's in for that one, so we know,

1226
00:53:59,913 --> 00:54:02,834
Speaker 5: I mean there's still a hope that Robinson and Wallace

1227
00:54:02,913 --> 00:54:06,754
Speaker 5: can play, so but it's not trending well. But at

1228
00:54:06,834 --> 00:54:10,354
Speaker 5: least there's still the jury's out for this one. But

1229
00:54:10,674 --> 00:54:13,674
Speaker 5: that was a terrible draft. That was awful. I mean

1230
00:54:13,674 --> 00:54:16,274
Speaker 5: this one, it's it's from from the first pick right

1231
00:54:16,354 --> 00:54:17,274
Speaker 5: down the line.

1232
00:54:17,034 --> 00:54:19,154
Speaker 10: And you take Drake Drake out of it, I mean

1233
00:54:19,194 --> 00:54:22,714
Speaker 10: right now, this one, like yeah, current he's.

1234
00:54:22,554 --> 00:54:24,594
Speaker 7: Already retired, he's not even in the league anymore.

1235
00:54:24,834 --> 00:54:25,073
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1236
00:54:25,514 --> 00:54:27,513
Speaker 13: Ah, Well, just to follow up in that question, though,

1237
00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:29,953
Speaker 13: people are so down on the head coach, and I

1238
00:54:29,953 --> 00:54:32,834
Speaker 13: think Van Pelt gets an unfair break because like basically

1239
00:54:32,834 --> 00:54:34,554
Speaker 13: he has got no receivers can get open, and he

1240
00:54:34,594 --> 00:54:36,953
Speaker 13: doesn't have a good offensive line, and somehow it's his

1241
00:54:37,034 --> 00:54:39,994
Speaker 13: fault that he can't build a great offense. My question

1242
00:54:40,074 --> 00:54:42,154
Speaker 13: is this, Basically, all the free agents you brought back

1243
00:54:42,194 --> 00:54:46,033
Speaker 13: here were guys who were who Bill picked, who is

1244
00:54:46,074 --> 00:54:48,314
Speaker 13: deemed to be a terrible talent evaluator for the last

1245
00:54:48,314 --> 00:54:51,154
Speaker 13: few years, you know, somewhat deservedly so. So if you

1246
00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:53,354
Speaker 13: look at the free agency, which basically you just brought

1247
00:54:53,393 --> 00:54:55,393
Speaker 13: back guys who weren't good before. I mean, you know

1248
00:54:55,514 --> 00:54:59,794
Speaker 13: Tyer Chase, who Chase already gone, Joshould Chase done, guys

1249
00:54:59,834 --> 00:55:02,234
Speaker 13: like that, And then you look at the draft, why

1250
00:55:02,234 --> 00:55:04,314
Speaker 13: should we believe next year should be any different?

1251
00:55:04,314 --> 00:55:05,554
Speaker 16: And then why should we feel good.

1252
00:55:05,393 --> 00:55:07,393
Speaker 13: If we have the second or third pick that these

1253
00:55:07,433 --> 00:55:08,674
Speaker 13: guys are going to make good choices?

1254
00:55:08,873 --> 00:55:10,393
Speaker 10: Yep, I got I got one part of that. You

1255
00:55:10,433 --> 00:55:12,314
Speaker 10: feel good at second or third pick because it's hard

1256
00:55:12,314 --> 00:55:13,873
Speaker 10: to miss at that pick. If you stay there, I

1257
00:55:13,873 --> 00:55:15,473
Speaker 10: feel like you're going to get a talented guy. And

1258
00:55:15,514 --> 00:55:17,314
Speaker 10: it's the same thing with Drake. But I agree with

1259
00:55:17,354 --> 00:55:18,634
Speaker 10: everything you're saying, Scott.

1260
00:55:18,393 --> 00:55:21,393
Speaker 5: Well, but isn't that Yeah, for the second and third pick,

1261
00:55:21,473 --> 00:55:23,754
Speaker 5: it's probably a little easier than these other picks. But

1262
00:55:23,834 --> 00:55:26,993
Speaker 5: the problem the Patriots have is they need it's just

1263
00:55:27,034 --> 00:55:30,113
Speaker 5: as important to hit on second round and third round

1264
00:55:30,114 --> 00:55:30,993
Speaker 5: as it is first round.

1265
00:55:31,114 --> 00:55:33,914
Speaker 6: That might be the most disappointing element of this season

1266
00:55:34,314 --> 00:55:36,513
Speaker 6: is that they don't appear to have gotten a lot

1267
00:55:36,554 --> 00:55:40,114
Speaker 6: of answers thanks Scott or Pee, with a lot of.

1268
00:55:40,154 --> 00:55:42,513
Speaker 10: The guys that they resigned that you felt kind of

1269
00:55:42,554 --> 00:55:44,873
Speaker 10: good about, you maybe feel even less good about now.

1270
00:55:45,393 --> 00:55:48,073
Speaker 5: I'm not going to revise my history because I they

1271
00:55:48,114 --> 00:55:51,434
Speaker 5: picked Polk and I was as just as excited about

1272
00:55:51,433 --> 00:55:53,633
Speaker 5: getting him. And he's gonna be good. He had good

1273
00:55:53,634 --> 00:55:56,714
Speaker 5: production in college. He's going to be, you know, a

1274
00:55:56,754 --> 00:55:59,314
Speaker 5: productive guy. And if they hit on the first and

1275
00:55:59,354 --> 00:56:02,794
Speaker 5: second pick, it'll be a good draft. And Polk's been

1276
00:56:03,274 --> 00:56:04,714
Speaker 5: a flat out bust.

1277
00:56:04,554 --> 00:56:06,393
Speaker 10: Flat out I mean, there's no other way to put it.

1278
00:56:06,433 --> 00:56:07,953
Speaker 10: I mean, it's I mean, I don't know what the

1279
00:56:07,994 --> 00:56:09,794
Speaker 10: numbers are right now, if he's I mean, he's still

1280
00:56:09,794 --> 00:56:10,914
Speaker 10: at twelve or thirteen catches.

1281
00:56:13,393 --> 00:56:15,234
Speaker 6: But here's the other part of it. And I'm a

1282
00:56:15,314 --> 00:56:17,514
Speaker 6: little surprised for it to hear you say that because

1283
00:56:17,594 --> 00:56:21,633
Speaker 6: your guy they traded down and passed up your guy.

1284
00:56:21,754 --> 00:56:24,154
Speaker 5: No, but I know that, and I wanted McConkey. But

1285
00:56:24,594 --> 00:56:27,354
Speaker 5: let's you know, Polk had good production in college too,

1286
00:56:27,913 --> 00:56:30,674
Speaker 5: and I was hopeful that he come in here and

1287
00:56:30,714 --> 00:56:33,474
Speaker 5: in his rookie season, you know, you know, forty fifty catches.

1288
00:56:33,754 --> 00:56:34,913
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'd be happy with that.

1289
00:56:35,714 --> 00:56:37,354
Speaker 6: I would have been thrilled with it. But yeah, I

1290
00:56:37,433 --> 00:56:38,953
Speaker 6: just I didn't see it. I didn't see it the

1291
00:56:39,034 --> 00:56:41,553
Speaker 6: night they picked him. You really didn't neither. You evn't

1292
00:56:41,554 --> 00:56:43,433
Speaker 6: seemed to talk yourselves into it the next day.

1293
00:56:43,634 --> 00:56:46,154
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, look, I think initially I was a

1294
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:48,913
Speaker 10: little disappointed, and then I went back and I realized

1295
00:56:48,913 --> 00:56:50,354
Speaker 10: how much I liked him, And I think really what

1296
00:56:50,393 --> 00:56:52,114
Speaker 10: it was it was more about picking him right in

1297
00:56:52,154 --> 00:56:54,113
Speaker 10: that spot that was you know, just it felt too high,

1298
00:56:54,114 --> 00:56:55,033
Speaker 10: It felt too soon to me.

1299
00:56:55,314 --> 00:56:57,114
Speaker 5: But we were happy they picked a wide receiver.

1300
00:56:57,234 --> 00:56:59,873
Speaker 6: Yeah, actually that's true. Yeah, we were all happy that

1301
00:56:59,913 --> 00:57:01,794
Speaker 6: they took a receiver, and I just thought there were

1302
00:57:01,794 --> 00:57:02,513
Speaker 6: others that were bad.

1303
00:57:02,594 --> 00:57:02,913
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did.

1304
00:57:02,953 --> 00:57:04,354
Speaker 11: I mean I did the same thing Fred did.

1305
00:57:04,634 --> 00:57:06,993
Speaker 10: Actually yesterday just looking back through some of my notes

1306
00:57:06,994 --> 00:57:09,033
Speaker 10: from last year, and like what I wrote down about Polk,

1307
00:57:09,154 --> 00:57:11,194
Speaker 10: he was the first guy I watched last year, and

1308
00:57:11,354 --> 00:57:13,473
Speaker 10: you know, I just good size, not great speed, but

1309
00:57:13,674 --> 00:57:15,913
Speaker 10: you know, makes tough catches, good hands like you know,

1310
00:57:16,034 --> 00:57:17,954
Speaker 10: just seems like he's going to be a reliable guy

1311
00:57:17,994 --> 00:57:20,153
Speaker 10: with good size that you know, conduced to a number

1312
00:57:20,194 --> 00:57:23,314
Speaker 10: of things inside and it just hasn't translated.

1313
00:57:23,394 --> 00:57:25,153
Speaker 11: But again, it's just so crazy how it looks.

1314
00:57:25,314 --> 00:57:29,274
Speaker 5: And I I haven't really got into my uh my

1315
00:57:29,354 --> 00:57:32,394
Speaker 5: wide receiver evaluations, but when I do, I'll let everyone

1316
00:57:32,434 --> 00:57:32,914
Speaker 5: know who we.

1317
00:57:32,834 --> 00:57:34,834
Speaker 6: Should pick this and I'm going to tell you maybe

1318
00:57:34,834 --> 00:57:37,274
Speaker 6: they listen this time. Normally that kind of comment would

1319
00:57:37,274 --> 00:57:39,274
Speaker 6: have elicited an argument from me, but I am going

1320
00:57:39,354 --> 00:57:39,954
Speaker 6: to pay attention.

1321
00:57:40,074 --> 00:57:40,434
Speaker 11: No, I know.

1322
00:57:40,714 --> 00:57:41,954
Speaker 10: I mean, I was gonna say, like Fred brought up

1323
00:57:41,994 --> 00:57:44,834
Speaker 10: lat McCaughey like two years and I'm like, that's not

1324
00:57:44,914 --> 00:57:45,954
Speaker 10: a real person's.

1325
00:57:45,674 --> 00:57:47,994
Speaker 5: Name, like Jefferson.

1326
00:57:48,474 --> 00:57:49,554
Speaker 11: I'm picturing Fred though.

1327
00:57:49,434 --> 00:57:51,073
Speaker 10: Like this weekend he's gonna be just like sitting by

1328
00:57:51,074 --> 00:57:52,634
Speaker 10: the corner and like Lad's going to be walking on

1329
00:57:52,714 --> 00:57:53,114
Speaker 10: and he's.

1330
00:57:52,994 --> 00:57:54,754
Speaker 5: Like, could have been You're gonna.

1331
00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,113
Speaker 11: You could have been my Lad.

1332
00:57:58,754 --> 00:58:00,754
Speaker 5: To me, it was just so obvious that he was

1333
00:58:00,794 --> 00:58:04,234
Speaker 5: going to be a productive receiver in the NFL. Not

1334
00:58:04,754 --> 00:58:08,234
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase or Justin but a guy who can move

1335
00:58:08,274 --> 00:58:13,034
Speaker 5: the sticks and reliable, gets open, catches the ball. You know,

1336
00:58:13,074 --> 00:58:15,714
Speaker 5: you got to start somewhere. He's got to start somewhere,

1337
00:58:15,714 --> 00:58:17,113
Speaker 5: and I thought he would be a good pick.

1338
00:58:17,194 --> 00:58:19,114
Speaker 6: I thought he'd be a good pick too. And I

1339
00:58:19,154 --> 00:58:22,274
Speaker 6: thought where he went, you know, made sense. You know,

1340
00:58:22,314 --> 00:58:24,034
Speaker 6: it was a day two picky like that.

1341
00:58:24,354 --> 00:58:26,074
Speaker 10: To me, that's an injury shoes. I mean, he's not

1342
00:58:26,074 --> 00:58:28,394
Speaker 10: the biggest guy, he's not huge, but he just has

1343
00:58:28,434 --> 00:58:32,314
Speaker 10: that shuttle shuttle down. I mean, he's just got such

1344
00:58:32,434 --> 00:58:34,114
Speaker 10: nuance to his route, running the way he's just I mean,

1345
00:58:34,114 --> 00:58:35,354
Speaker 10: he's kind of one of those artist guys.

1346
00:58:35,354 --> 00:58:37,314
Speaker 11: And he was a nightmare at the Senior Bowl watching.

1347
00:58:37,114 --> 00:58:42,593
Speaker 5: Him, like zach'son Connecticut. Oh, Zach is gone interesting all right?

1348
00:58:43,354 --> 00:58:46,634
Speaker 6: So DeShawn called, uh, called me this morning when I

1349
00:58:46,674 --> 00:58:47,633
Speaker 6: was on the on my.

1350
00:58:47,594 --> 00:58:51,314
Speaker 5: Shoes, you're doing that four hours this morning?

1351
00:58:51,474 --> 00:58:54,514
Speaker 6: Dropped So he started talking. I was like, oh, I

1352
00:58:54,514 --> 00:58:58,074
Speaker 6: know this guy. And then all of a sudden, Yeah.

1353
00:58:57,474 --> 00:58:59,794
Speaker 5: Paul did four hours on morning radio. He's gonna do

1354
00:58:59,834 --> 00:59:01,514
Speaker 5: two hours here and then you're gonna.

1355
00:59:01,274 --> 00:59:03,034
Speaker 6: Do That's why I got a few overseas.

1356
00:59:03,354 --> 00:59:05,954
Speaker 5: You're gonna do some oversea podcasts when you get home.

1357
00:59:06,434 --> 00:59:08,754
Speaker 6: No, but I did get an invitation for a podcast

1358
00:59:08,834 --> 00:59:10,474
Speaker 6: from a listener who heard me this morning.

1359
00:59:10,994 --> 00:59:13,914
Speaker 5: Everybody's got a podcast podcast?

1360
00:59:13,994 --> 00:59:15,754
Speaker 6: Yeah, not the original though, thing to do?

1361
00:59:16,234 --> 00:59:16,434
Speaker 9: Uh.

1362
00:59:17,954 --> 00:59:21,634
Speaker 5: Mike writes in Dear Fred, Alex, Mike, and Paul, greetings

1363
00:59:21,674 --> 00:59:24,234
Speaker 5: from Denver, where the Broncos are still at home. I

1364
00:59:24,234 --> 00:59:26,434
Speaker 5: hope you all enjoy your own pending Christmas, even though

1365
00:59:26,434 --> 00:59:29,194
Speaker 5: Paul has an irrational hatred for my beloved alma mater

1366
00:59:29,474 --> 00:59:33,434
Speaker 5: and state. Did you find Mayo's comments about Cainan Wallace curious?

1367
00:59:33,914 --> 00:59:36,834
Speaker 5: Seems like the logical thing to do would see, if

1368
00:59:36,874 --> 00:59:40,234
Speaker 5: you have it set to have a set it and

1369
00:59:40,314 --> 00:59:42,834
Speaker 5: forget it right side of and when you and Wallace

1370
00:59:43,074 --> 00:59:46,314
Speaker 5: and fixed the left side this season? What did he

1371
00:59:46,354 --> 00:59:47,434
Speaker 5: say about Wallace?

1372
00:59:47,434 --> 00:59:48,474
Speaker 6: How is he going to get that?

1373
00:59:50,394 --> 00:59:50,633
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1374
00:59:50,714 --> 00:59:52,434
Speaker 6: Like if he plays the last two games, you think

1375
00:59:52,434 --> 00:59:54,074
Speaker 6: you have a set and set it and forget it

1376
00:59:54,154 --> 00:59:54,914
Speaker 6: right tackle.

1377
00:59:54,674 --> 00:59:56,314
Speaker 5: Next year, That's what he's saying.

1378
00:59:56,474 --> 00:59:59,633
Speaker 6: No, he has like think Greece Wroad.

1379
00:59:59,674 --> 01:00:02,154
Speaker 10: He had serious injuries that he's still coming back from, right.

1380
01:00:02,234 --> 01:00:04,394
Speaker 6: I mean I think in there, this isn't what like

1381
01:00:04,434 --> 01:00:07,394
Speaker 6: so back to the like Mapoo with Fred, like this

1382
01:00:07,474 --> 01:00:09,394
Speaker 6: is not what I'm putting on the coaches. He got hurt,

1383
01:00:09,714 --> 01:00:12,954
Speaker 6: like significant injuries that knocked him out of it. That's

1384
01:00:12,994 --> 01:00:13,914
Speaker 6: why he hasn't played.

1385
01:00:14,194 --> 01:00:15,794
Speaker 10: I think it is just disappointing that we've gotten to

1386
01:00:15,834 --> 01:00:17,194
Speaker 10: this point in the season where we've talked a lot

1387
01:00:17,234 --> 01:00:20,554
Speaker 10: about guys like Polk, like Wallace and Mapho's the exception

1388
01:00:20,594 --> 01:00:22,193
Speaker 10: where he's actually playing. But a lot of these guys

1389
01:00:22,234 --> 01:00:23,954
Speaker 10: that we've talked to when you knew the season was

1390
01:00:24,234 --> 01:00:26,154
Speaker 10: kind of lost and we're hoping that some of those

1391
01:00:26,234 --> 01:00:29,794
Speaker 10: young players stepped up, it hasn't really happened, except for you.

1392
01:00:29,794 --> 01:00:34,034
Speaker 6: Know, Mapo played well on Sunday, like A yeah, that

1393
01:00:34,114 --> 01:00:36,514
Speaker 6: doesn't mean I'm like a huge believer. I just want

1394
01:00:36,514 --> 01:00:38,434
Speaker 6: to see these guys play a little bit.

1395
01:00:38,594 --> 01:00:40,194
Speaker 10: I think he had. I think he had a big

1396
01:00:40,234 --> 01:00:42,314
Speaker 10: part of that big touchdown run though, too, because.

1397
01:00:42,194 --> 01:00:44,274
Speaker 6: He might, like you over pursued and they might. I

1398
01:00:44,394 --> 01:00:47,194
Speaker 6: just but again, it's fine, but that's why they need

1399
01:00:47,234 --> 01:00:50,594
Speaker 6: to play. Like That's why I wouldn't sit there and say, like,

1400
01:00:50,674 --> 01:00:53,434
Speaker 6: why is del Petis out there? Like I don't know,

1401
01:00:53,514 --> 01:00:56,194
Speaker 6: like maybe there's something there, you know, and maybe he's

1402
01:00:56,194 --> 01:00:59,434
Speaker 6: gonna those mistakes become less and less and we always

1403
01:00:59,474 --> 01:01:02,314
Speaker 6: a special teams guy. So it's not exactly apples to apples.

1404
01:01:02,074 --> 01:01:04,314
Speaker 10: To Callahan, really take all I want for Christmas is

1405
01:01:04,354 --> 01:01:07,274
Speaker 10: you at number one overall, Andrew Callahan of the Boston Herald.

1406
01:01:07,394 --> 01:01:08,354
Speaker 11: Everybody, I don't like it.

1407
01:01:08,434 --> 01:01:10,994
Speaker 6: If you ask, if you a one hundred people servey

1408
01:01:11,434 --> 01:01:14,114
Speaker 6: the top five answers on the board, that would be it.

1409
01:01:14,194 --> 01:01:16,994
Speaker 7: And that's true because that song that it just does numbers.

1410
01:01:17,874 --> 01:01:20,234
Speaker 10: It drags me into the great I mean, my sisters

1411
01:01:20,274 --> 01:01:22,074
Speaker 10: loved it and we took a family trip to New

1412
01:01:22,154 --> 01:01:23,994
Speaker 10: York when I was a kid, and they just and

1413
01:01:24,034 --> 01:01:25,474
Speaker 10: that was like right when it came out and it

1414
01:01:25,514 --> 01:01:28,274
Speaker 10: was just over and over and I think that spoiled it.

1415
01:01:28,354 --> 01:01:32,074
Speaker 10: But like, have yourself a merry little Christmas, Judy Garland,

1416
01:01:32,114 --> 01:01:33,154
Speaker 10: I mean, oh.

1417
01:01:33,594 --> 01:01:34,714
Speaker 5: Uh, you're right.

1418
01:01:35,034 --> 01:01:36,073
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get water.

1419
01:01:37,514 --> 01:01:40,354
Speaker 5: I was gonna should I read a Steve from Marblehead

1420
01:01:40,434 --> 01:01:42,153
Speaker 5: Christmas poem if it's good.

1421
01:01:42,674 --> 01:01:44,754
Speaker 11: If it's good, well we'll find out.

1422
01:01:44,754 --> 01:01:47,034
Speaker 5: You'll be the judge of that strop. Up twas the

1423
01:01:47,114 --> 01:01:50,274
Speaker 5: night before Christmas, and all through the stadium the night

1424
01:01:50,394 --> 01:01:54,633
Speaker 5: was so quiet you could hear Paul's labium. What uh.

1425
01:01:54,634 --> 01:01:57,314
Speaker 5: The team was all snuggled in their comfy chairs while

1426
01:01:57,354 --> 01:02:02,434
Speaker 5: visions that's okay, while visions of lighteouts were ease only prayers.

1427
01:02:04,354 --> 01:02:07,234
Speaker 5: So far, it's off to a rocky star. The holiday

1428
01:02:07,274 --> 01:02:10,714
Speaker 5: feast sparks some healthy debate. What would you wish for

1429
01:02:10,874 --> 01:02:13,634
Speaker 5: to fill up your plate? Skipping the bird is nobody's

1430
01:02:13,674 --> 01:02:16,514
Speaker 5: great loss. I won't eat dry turkey drenched in gravy

1431
01:02:16,514 --> 01:02:19,314
Speaker 5: and sauce. Nobody likes it, by all that is holy.

1432
01:02:19,834 --> 01:02:25,594
Speaker 5: But Paul, isn't there gravy on your Ravioli? The season

1433
01:02:25,674 --> 01:02:28,434
Speaker 5: game cast, let's Paul demonstrate why he's held on to

1434
01:02:28,554 --> 01:02:32,034
Speaker 5: his job since nineteen ninety eight. Don't give me cole Santa.

1435
01:02:32,114 --> 01:02:34,514
Speaker 5: I haven't been naughty. I guess there's no new car.

1436
01:02:34,594 --> 01:02:39,593
Speaker 5: I guess I'll walk home from Pete body to me. Yeah.

1437
01:02:40,034 --> 01:02:43,594
Speaker 5: Alex Alex comes in for pick shows when her record's elite.

1438
01:02:43,954 --> 01:02:47,394
Speaker 5: When asked for her secret, she just says, retweet. It's

1439
01:02:47,434 --> 01:02:50,193
Speaker 5: hard being ugly when you look like a doll. What's

1440
01:02:50,194 --> 01:02:55,434
Speaker 5: harder for Alex is easy for Paul. Grinding through tape

1441
01:02:55,474 --> 01:03:02,194
Speaker 5: makes Evan ball noer. Grinding through tape makes ball makes

1442
01:03:02,234 --> 01:03:05,514
Speaker 5: Evan ball knower. He knows pins and pulls, but not

1443
01:03:05,634 --> 01:03:10,074
Speaker 5: his lawnmower. Losing the team made the leadership quake until brave.

1444
01:03:10,194 --> 01:03:14,434
Speaker 5: Sir Evan took back his take. Mike's got a short

1445
01:03:14,434 --> 01:03:17,114
Speaker 5: list to give to Chris Kringle. It's too much to

1446
01:03:17,154 --> 01:03:20,554
Speaker 5: ask for an in game deuce jingle. They arguing, bicker

1447
01:03:20,594 --> 01:03:22,994
Speaker 5: who's right and who's wrong. The one thing we agree

1448
01:03:23,514 --> 01:03:29,114
Speaker 5: is Jill gives good song. Fred taking the Bengals and Jets.

1449
01:03:29,154 --> 01:03:34,274
Speaker 5: That's outrageous, But splitting the baby is purely contagious or courageous.

1450
01:03:34,314 --> 01:03:37,634
Speaker 5: I should say the holiday party could have been gloom

1451
01:03:37,674 --> 01:03:40,193
Speaker 5: and doom. Fred may not know ball but he sure

1452
01:03:40,314 --> 01:03:43,954
Speaker 5: knows ballroom. We hope this that this season is friendly

1453
01:03:44,034 --> 01:03:47,474
Speaker 5: and Mary picks coming. We all got to hurry. I'll

1454
01:03:47,474 --> 01:03:50,914
Speaker 5: give it a five. Yeah, I'll give it a five.

1455
01:03:53,514 --> 01:03:54,514
Speaker 5: He's no min m.

1456
01:03:54,474 --> 01:03:56,593
Speaker 10: At these guys. This is the worst holiday list ever.

1457
01:03:56,834 --> 01:03:58,434
Speaker 5: I'm not going to but thank you for the effort.

1458
01:03:58,474 --> 01:03:59,514
Speaker 5: Steve from Marlborough.

1459
01:04:00,474 --> 01:04:04,114
Speaker 6: You blue Springsteen.

1460
01:04:05,914 --> 01:04:07,314
Speaker 5: Nobody knows what you're talking about.

1461
01:04:08,554 --> 01:04:09,914
Speaker 10: Do you guys have a favorite Do you have a

1462
01:04:09,914 --> 01:04:10,954
Speaker 10: favorite holiday song?

1463
01:04:12,114 --> 01:04:19,074
Speaker 6: Ah, that's not okay. Again, there's a lot.

1464
01:04:18,914 --> 01:04:23,594
Speaker 7: Of racism against Italian.

1465
01:04:26,954 --> 01:04:29,474
Speaker 6: I would go I have more classics, like the like

1466
01:04:29,634 --> 01:04:32,954
Speaker 6: the regular you know, talking around the Christmas tree is

1467
01:04:32,954 --> 01:04:33,554
Speaker 6: a great song.

1468
01:04:36,674 --> 01:04:37,554
Speaker 11: I'm totally with you.

1469
01:04:37,634 --> 01:04:39,154
Speaker 10: I love the perfect none of that it is on

1470
01:04:39,194 --> 01:04:39,593
Speaker 10: their list.

1471
01:04:39,634 --> 01:04:41,834
Speaker 11: There's a great.

1472
01:04:42,754 --> 01:04:45,794
Speaker 6: And I don't know. I'm trying to think of some

1473
01:04:45,874 --> 01:04:46,354
Speaker 6: other ones.

1474
01:04:47,434 --> 01:04:51,114
Speaker 5: The opening theme to The Hard Everyone says it's a

1475
01:04:51,194 --> 01:04:52,074
Speaker 5: Christmas movie.

1476
01:04:52,554 --> 01:04:56,234
Speaker 6: I feel like agrees. I disagree with you hit me

1477
01:04:56,274 --> 01:04:59,514
Speaker 6: in the back of the room. Yo, Yes, did you?

1478
01:05:00,714 --> 01:05:06,754
Speaker 6: Paul is Yeah, correct time I've spoken to press conference season,

1479
01:05:09,074 --> 01:05:10,554
Speaker 6: I'm just there to observe.

1480
01:05:10,634 --> 01:05:12,354
Speaker 10: That you were You couldn't hold yourself back.

1481
01:05:12,234 --> 01:05:14,394
Speaker 6: And stood first time all day.

1482
01:05:14,394 --> 01:05:17,234
Speaker 5: I didn't cough too sweet kid writes in how has

1483
01:05:17,314 --> 01:05:19,314
Speaker 5: key On White done so far? In your opinion? He

1484
01:05:19,434 --> 01:05:23,794
Speaker 5: was hot initially and then I stopped noticing did as much?

1485
01:05:23,914 --> 01:05:25,154
Speaker 5: Did teams just adjusted? H?

1486
01:05:25,434 --> 01:05:25,554
Speaker 6: Or?

1487
01:05:25,594 --> 01:05:28,394
Speaker 5: Is he playing pretty well overall? Dudes? This has your

1488
01:05:28,474 --> 01:05:29,554
Speaker 5: name written all over it.

1489
01:05:29,994 --> 01:05:30,234
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1490
01:05:30,274 --> 01:05:33,153
Speaker 10: I think it's a challenge for ke On White because

1491
01:05:33,154 --> 01:05:35,274
Speaker 10: I think every time they play a mobile quarterback, it

1492
01:05:35,314 --> 01:05:37,474
Speaker 10: probably takes him out of what he does best, which

1493
01:05:37,514 --> 01:05:40,074
Speaker 10: is just go fight guards, go get through guards, go

1494
01:05:40,114 --> 01:05:41,554
Speaker 10: get to the quarterback as quickly.

1495
01:05:41,314 --> 01:05:41,754
Speaker 11: As you can.

1496
01:05:41,794 --> 01:05:44,274
Speaker 10: And the more of these kind of game plans, and

1497
01:05:44,354 --> 01:05:45,674
Speaker 10: you know, he's probably seen it the last couple of

1498
01:05:45,674 --> 01:05:48,474
Speaker 10: weeks with Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, these little mobile guys

1499
01:05:48,514 --> 01:05:50,754
Speaker 10: where you know all week what they're talking about, keep

1500
01:05:50,794 --> 01:05:53,434
Speaker 10: him in the pocket, you know, be disciplined. You can't

1501
01:05:53,474 --> 01:05:55,914
Speaker 10: just run through you know, guard's face like I think

1502
01:05:55,994 --> 01:05:56,994
Speaker 10: Keon White wants to do.

1503
01:05:57,674 --> 01:05:57,754
Speaker 17: So.

1504
01:05:57,794 --> 01:06:00,834
Speaker 10: I think it's just indicative of their lack of depth

1505
01:06:01,034 --> 01:06:03,514
Speaker 10: along the defensive line and that they're not really able to,

1506
01:06:04,074 --> 01:06:06,034
Speaker 10: you know, have guys in for certain jobs and you know,

1507
01:06:06,074 --> 01:06:09,434
Speaker 10: maybe save key On White for third downs or so.

1508
01:06:09,554 --> 01:06:09,914
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1509
01:06:09,954 --> 01:06:13,673
Speaker 10: I think with the questions around Christian Barmore and what's

1510
01:06:13,714 --> 01:06:16,074
Speaker 10: his future, maybe there's a path that if you know,

1511
01:06:16,154 --> 01:06:18,914
Speaker 10: unfortunately Christian Bartman can't go. Like that's more of what

1512
01:06:19,034 --> 01:06:21,514
Speaker 10: key On White is. I just I haven't seen. I mean,

1513
01:06:21,554 --> 01:06:23,954
Speaker 10: he said it in the locker room twenty minutes ago.

1514
01:06:24,434 --> 01:06:26,994
Speaker 10: He admitted obstrang against the run. I think there were

1515
01:06:26,994 --> 01:06:29,114
Speaker 10: a couple of plays you can watch from last weekend's

1516
01:06:29,114 --> 01:06:31,034
Speaker 10: game where you know, he's getting pushed out of the

1517
01:06:31,074 --> 01:06:33,874
Speaker 10: way and they're running right by him. So it's, uh,

1518
01:06:33,994 --> 01:06:35,794
Speaker 10: it's been a work in progress. I'd love to see

1519
01:06:35,834 --> 01:06:37,474
Speaker 10: them get some more guys in the front seven so

1520
01:06:37,514 --> 01:06:38,593
Speaker 10: that they can free him up a little.

1521
01:06:38,594 --> 01:06:40,714
Speaker 5: Is it just me or does it seem like they're

1522
01:06:40,754 --> 01:06:43,114
Speaker 5: not moving him around as much as they did earlier,

1523
01:06:43,154 --> 01:06:46,714
Speaker 5: Like he always seems to be outside where he was

1524
01:06:46,754 --> 01:06:48,154
Speaker 5: moving inside sometimes.

1525
01:06:48,234 --> 01:06:51,153
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean i'd say that, I think so generally, Yeah,

1526
01:06:51,234 --> 01:06:52,794
Speaker 10: I mean I I you know, I still see them

1527
01:06:52,794 --> 01:06:54,914
Speaker 10: moving him around a lot, and you know, running stunts

1528
01:06:54,954 --> 01:06:57,834
Speaker 10: with him, and you know, there was I remember there's

1529
01:06:57,834 --> 01:07:01,114
Speaker 10: one particular rep with him in Gockway where it just

1530
01:07:01,114 --> 01:07:03,234
Speaker 10: didn't quite look coordinated. And that's kind of a thing

1531
01:07:03,234 --> 01:07:05,954
Speaker 10: where in Gockway came late and that's all timing and

1532
01:07:05,994 --> 01:07:07,674
Speaker 10: working together and.

1533
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Speaker 5: And Gockway's like not that we should have had high hopes,

1534
01:07:10,834 --> 01:07:11,474
Speaker 5: but he has.

1535
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Speaker 10: Been pretty much visible, right, you know most of them,

1536
01:07:13,994 --> 01:07:16,834
Speaker 10: you know, but again, like they just hard to get

1537
01:07:16,834 --> 01:07:18,994
Speaker 10: the third downs. They're getting run all over. You know,

1538
01:07:19,034 --> 01:07:20,754
Speaker 10: it's not like, oh, third and ten, here we go,

1539
01:07:20,874 --> 01:07:22,714
Speaker 10: let's break out the package with Keyon White up the

1540
01:07:22,714 --> 01:07:24,914
Speaker 10: middle and you know, Gockway off the edge. But I

1541
01:07:25,314 --> 01:07:26,274
Speaker 10: see much from a gun way.

1542
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Speaker 6: I think Kean White has played pretty well. I don't

1543
01:07:29,954 --> 01:07:33,074
Speaker 6: think what happened I think in the first week is

1544
01:07:33,194 --> 01:07:36,354
Speaker 6: kind of like the game itself. It sort of set

1545
01:07:36,714 --> 01:07:40,234
Speaker 6: undue expectations. You know, that's not I think the way

1546
01:07:40,474 --> 01:07:44,194
Speaker 6: Mike explained and described White's game I think is pretty

1547
01:07:44,234 --> 01:07:48,314
Speaker 6: pretty accurate. He's not a pass rusher. He's a pocket

1548
01:07:48,314 --> 01:07:52,834
Speaker 6: collapse right with you know, basically the power and versatility.

1549
01:07:53,354 --> 01:07:57,153
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's how he plays, and I think he's

1550
01:07:57,194 --> 01:07:59,474
Speaker 6: he's good at it. And the one thing that I

1551
01:07:59,474 --> 01:08:01,834
Speaker 6: would quibble a little with Mike is I do think

1552
01:08:03,194 --> 01:08:07,194
Speaker 6: the mobile quarterbacks, he's kind of he's valuable against those

1553
01:08:07,234 --> 01:08:10,914
Speaker 6: because it might not represent like a sack, but like,

1554
01:08:11,394 --> 01:08:13,434
Speaker 6: and he had one on Josh Allen the other day

1555
01:08:13,474 --> 01:08:15,834
Speaker 6: that was probably going to be a first down, but

1556
01:08:16,034 --> 01:08:18,954
Speaker 6: he's athletic enough that it's like a four yard game

1557
01:08:19,154 --> 01:08:21,714
Speaker 6: on a scramble might not show up as a big play,

1558
01:08:22,074 --> 01:08:24,634
Speaker 6: but I think I think he permitted a first down

1559
01:08:24,674 --> 01:08:27,434
Speaker 6: with that play. And I think he does those kinds

1560
01:08:27,434 --> 01:08:30,514
Speaker 6: of things a lot. He's I think he's good. I

1561
01:08:30,514 --> 01:08:32,834
Speaker 6: don't think that he if people are looking for him

1562
01:08:32,874 --> 01:08:35,434
Speaker 6: to be like this fifteen sack guy, it wasn't in

1563
01:08:35,514 --> 01:08:37,234
Speaker 6: college sacks. That's not what he is. No.

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Speaker 10: I think that's a really good point, Paul, and I

1565
01:08:38,994 --> 01:08:42,114
Speaker 10: think you're you're totally right it's surprisingly athletic for kind

1566
01:08:42,114 --> 01:08:45,314
Speaker 10: of a big guy, but also kind of stiff though too.

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Speaker 11: You know, like that's what kind of makes.

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Speaker 6: Sacks against Cincinnati what we talked about, Yeah, where they

1569
01:08:49,914 --> 01:08:52,674
Speaker 6: occurred around the line of scrimmage. They were like he

1570
01:08:52,714 --> 01:08:54,354
Speaker 6: had like two and a half sacks for like minus

1571
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Speaker 6: five yards total, you know, because that's where he gets

1572
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Speaker 6: his sacks, like late in the down. All right, you

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Speaker 20: it wasn't really always about the gifts. Didn't get many

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01:11:41,394 --> 01:11:42,994
Speaker 20: gifts as a kid. You know, my kids are growing

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01:11:43,034 --> 01:11:45,794
Speaker 20: up totally different than me. But it is what it is.

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01:11:46,594 --> 01:11:46,834
Speaker 6: Uh.

1622
01:11:46,914 --> 01:11:47,074
Speaker 7: You know.

1623
01:11:47,114 --> 01:11:49,314
Speaker 20: My message to the team was, look, this is a

1624
01:11:49,394 --> 01:11:52,514
Speaker 20: huge week as far as being able to compartmentalize. When

1625
01:11:52,514 --> 01:11:55,834
Speaker 20: we're in the building, it's all about football. When they're

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01:11:55,834 --> 01:11:58,394
Speaker 20: outside the building, obviously they need to spend time with

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01:11:58,474 --> 01:12:00,274
Speaker 20: their family and it's all about family at that time.

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01:12:00,314 --> 01:12:02,714
Speaker 20: And being able to do that I think is good

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01:12:02,754 --> 01:12:06,034
Speaker 20: to have a balanced life. You know, the unsung, the

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Speaker 20: to give them a shout out because I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 20: right now going into the stores or rapping gifts. Never

1634
01:12:19,314 --> 01:12:23,114
Speaker 20: really been really been my thing moving on. This is

1635
01:12:23,154 --> 01:12:27,034
Speaker 20: a very good football team, uh, team that honestly reminds

1636
01:12:27,074 --> 01:12:29,514
Speaker 20: me of like the old school way of playing, you know,

1637
01:12:29,594 --> 01:12:33,034
Speaker 20: going out there playing good defense, solid base technique, you know,

1638
01:12:33,114 --> 01:12:35,594
Speaker 20: being able to stop the run, having those playmakers over there,

1639
01:12:35,634 --> 01:12:38,874
Speaker 20: and offensively, you know, they have a great quarterback in Herbert,

1640
01:12:38,914 --> 01:12:41,834
Speaker 20: but really, you know, this team also up front, they're

1641
01:12:41,914 --> 01:12:43,874
Speaker 20: very talented across the board up front, and I think

1642
01:12:43,914 --> 01:12:46,634
Speaker 20: they work very well together, especially in the run game,

1643
01:12:47,034 --> 01:12:48,714
Speaker 20: you know, and as the weather changes, you know, and

1644
01:12:48,754 --> 01:12:51,034
Speaker 20: they're coming out this way, I expect them to try

1645
01:12:51,074 --> 01:12:53,354
Speaker 20: to run the ball, and especially how we looked last week.

1646
01:12:53,394 --> 01:12:56,034
Speaker 20: And so that's the challenge to the players that, look,

1647
01:12:56,194 --> 01:12:58,234
Speaker 20: they're gonna come in. Here's no secret, they're gonna want

1648
01:12:58,234 --> 01:12:59,874
Speaker 20: to run the ball, and we have to stop them

1649
01:12:59,874 --> 01:13:03,314
Speaker 20: and make more one dimensional team. Good running backs obviously

1650
01:13:03,514 --> 01:13:07,514
Speaker 20: is a huge you know Baltimore Raven type of you

1651
01:13:07,554 --> 01:13:10,113
Speaker 20: know flavor to this entire staff and even the players.

1652
01:13:10,274 --> 01:13:11,594
Speaker 20: You know, you look at the backs that they have,

1653
01:13:11,714 --> 01:13:14,634
Speaker 20: you know, a couple of them came from Baltimore. You know,

1654
01:13:14,674 --> 01:13:17,634
Speaker 20: we've you know, we've gone against Greg Roman multiple times.

1655
01:13:17,834 --> 01:13:18,634
Speaker 8: You know over the years.

1656
01:13:18,714 --> 01:13:22,194
Speaker 20: Is a very good coordinator, you know, very experienced, and

1657
01:13:22,554 --> 01:13:24,434
Speaker 20: he's going to exploit your weaknesses. And I think they

1658
01:13:24,674 --> 01:13:27,474
Speaker 20: do a good job with that defensively. You know, I've

1659
01:13:27,514 --> 01:13:29,594
Speaker 20: been a fan of this player for for a while.

1660
01:13:29,674 --> 01:13:30,434
Speaker 8: I always you know, he.

1661
01:13:30,394 --> 01:13:33,354
Speaker 20: Always pops off the off the film is Derwin James.

1662
01:13:33,434 --> 01:13:35,474
Speaker 20: I think, you know, he's just one of those guys

1663
01:13:35,514 --> 01:13:38,034
Speaker 20: that he's a football player, and you can tell by

1664
01:13:38,034 --> 01:13:40,274
Speaker 20: the way that he goes out there and plays, you know,

1665
01:13:40,394 --> 01:13:42,714
Speaker 20: just his energy, enthusiasm, and the rest of the crew,

1666
01:13:43,194 --> 01:13:46,034
Speaker 20: uh kind of follows his lead in my opinion. Not

1667
01:13:46,114 --> 01:13:47,994
Speaker 20: to take anything away from the front guys. You know,

1668
01:13:48,034 --> 01:13:49,914
Speaker 20: they have two very good defensive ends, and they have

1669
01:13:49,994 --> 01:13:52,194
Speaker 20: some big guys up front that do a good job

1670
01:13:52,234 --> 01:13:54,834
Speaker 20: too gaping, but I think it all starts with Derwin

1671
01:13:54,834 --> 01:13:56,874
Speaker 20: and I think we have to know, like where this

1672
01:13:56,914 --> 01:13:59,354
Speaker 20: guy is on every single play. If he's down near

1673
01:13:59,394 --> 01:14:02,714
Speaker 20: the line of scrimmage, like he can absolutely you know,

1674
01:14:02,874 --> 01:14:06,034
Speaker 20: rush and drop from there. If he's in the back half,

1675
01:14:06,034 --> 01:14:08,274
Speaker 20: he can play a deep part of the field as well.

1676
01:14:08,354 --> 01:14:13,394
Speaker 20: So uh, definitely definitely a very good player. Look for us,

1677
01:14:13,514 --> 01:14:15,554
Speaker 20: you know, we gotta we gotta be able to stay balanced,

1678
01:14:15,594 --> 01:14:16,994
Speaker 20: and we got to stay ahead of the sticks, stay

1679
01:14:16,994 --> 01:14:19,314
Speaker 20: ahead of the chains, and and again this is another

1680
01:14:19,394 --> 01:14:21,914
Speaker 20: opportunity against a team that really don't turn the ball

1681
01:14:21,954 --> 01:14:24,474
Speaker 20: over much. Uh, for us to go out there and

1682
01:14:24,474 --> 01:14:26,674
Speaker 20: try to and try to it after it so far

1683
01:14:26,794 --> 01:14:33,114
Speaker 20: away men and running the weather because they're going to

1684
01:14:33,154 --> 01:14:35,194
Speaker 20: be pretty balanced, is what I would say. I would

1685
01:14:35,194 --> 01:14:37,514
Speaker 20: say they would I don't want to. I don't know

1686
01:14:37,514 --> 01:14:38,954
Speaker 20: what the weather's going to be. I think it's actually

1687
01:14:38,954 --> 01:14:40,914
Speaker 20: going to be pretty nice. I think the last I checked.

1688
01:14:40,954 --> 01:14:42,274
Speaker 20: But we're good.

1689
01:14:42,274 --> 01:14:45,594
Speaker 10: Sorry, you're good with the running and fallacy.

1690
01:14:45,674 --> 01:14:48,554
Speaker 19: Then you mention that really struggled on this last game,

1691
01:14:48,594 --> 01:14:50,394
Speaker 19: and so the two things that cap the game came

1692
01:14:50,434 --> 01:14:52,834
Speaker 19: down to, how are you working on that going into

1693
01:14:52,914 --> 01:14:54,834
Speaker 19: this game knowing that that's probably something that.

1694
01:14:56,354 --> 01:14:58,674
Speaker 20: To me, it's about block destruction, it's about tackling. Like

1695
01:14:58,714 --> 01:15:00,954
Speaker 20: the best tacklers I've ever been around always knew where

1696
01:15:00,954 --> 01:15:04,594
Speaker 20: their help was, and so you know, not letting the

1697
01:15:04,634 --> 01:15:06,634
Speaker 20: ball carrier get out to the edge is definitely a

1698
01:15:06,714 --> 01:15:08,274
Speaker 20: huge part of it. And turning it back into the

1699
01:15:08,314 --> 01:15:09,154
Speaker 20: teeth of the defense.

1700
01:15:10,514 --> 01:15:11,514
Speaker 6: The emotion of.

1701
01:15:11,914 --> 01:15:14,514
Speaker 5: The Arizona game versus last week, what did you see.

1702
01:15:14,314 --> 01:15:16,274
Speaker 7: As the difference and how do you get that out

1703
01:15:16,274 --> 01:15:19,634
Speaker 7: of your team on a weekly basis because it seemed

1704
01:15:19,674 --> 01:15:22,234
Speaker 7: like they had that passion from the start Sunday.

1705
01:15:22,914 --> 01:15:24,674
Speaker 20: Yeah, I would say the Arizona game, to me, at

1706
01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:27,234
Speaker 20: least from a first standpoint, was an anomaly. It's not

1707
01:15:27,394 --> 01:15:29,874
Speaker 20: what we put on film as far as effort. Now,

1708
01:15:29,874 --> 01:15:33,114
Speaker 20: have we always played uh, you know, clean games? You

1709
01:15:33,154 --> 01:15:35,314
Speaker 20: know no, I mean look at our record. But in

1710
01:15:35,434 --> 01:15:36,954
Speaker 20: saying that, I would say they always go out there

1711
01:15:36,994 --> 01:15:38,954
Speaker 20: and play with tremendous effort and that's what showed up

1712
01:15:39,034 --> 01:15:40,274
Speaker 20: last week and.

1713
01:15:39,914 --> 01:15:41,554
Speaker 8: It'll show up this week. You look, we're at home.

1714
01:15:41,834 --> 01:15:44,314
Speaker 20: We got to protect you know, protect home home field,

1715
01:15:44,354 --> 01:15:45,954
Speaker 20: and that's the goal.

1716
01:15:46,554 --> 01:15:48,274
Speaker 17: It's because of a number of different guys wearing the

1717
01:15:48,274 --> 01:15:49,674
Speaker 17: green dot since to one went down.

1718
01:15:49,834 --> 01:15:51,514
Speaker 6: How much would challenges up them?

1719
01:15:51,954 --> 01:15:54,394
Speaker 20: I would say, like all of those guys that have

1720
01:15:54,474 --> 01:15:56,794
Speaker 20: had the green dot throughout the year have done a

1721
01:15:56,794 --> 01:15:59,314
Speaker 20: good job in doing it. I mean sometimes I think,

1722
01:16:00,154 --> 01:16:02,554
Speaker 20: you know, we make too much of a big deal

1723
01:16:02,594 --> 01:16:04,994
Speaker 20: about the green dot. I mean literally, a coach is

1724
01:16:05,034 --> 01:16:06,794
Speaker 20: talking to you and you just got to it's like

1725
01:16:06,794 --> 01:16:09,434
Speaker 20: playing a game of telephone and saying that, though the

1726
01:16:09,474 --> 01:16:13,114
Speaker 20: adjustments after that are always difficult. Look, we have some

1727
01:16:13,114 --> 01:16:15,554
Speaker 20: good communicators on defense, you know, you have you know

1728
01:16:15,634 --> 01:16:18,794
Speaker 20: Dugger of course, and Jelani and Ellis. All those guys

1729
01:16:18,834 --> 01:16:20,314
Speaker 20: have done a pretty good job as far as that

1730
01:16:20,514 --> 01:16:21,073
Speaker 20: is concerned.

1731
01:16:21,754 --> 01:16:21,914
Speaker 13: Run.

1732
01:16:22,714 --> 01:16:26,994
Speaker 7: I know, each turnover has its own story, and perhaps

1733
01:16:27,074 --> 01:16:28,434
Speaker 7: there's no common.

1734
01:16:28,234 --> 01:16:31,034
Speaker 9: Link when it comes to to Drake.

1735
01:16:31,954 --> 01:16:34,354
Speaker 4: Is there a chance he might be doing trying to

1736
01:16:34,394 --> 01:16:35,274
Speaker 4: do a little too.

1737
01:16:35,194 --> 01:16:39,074
Speaker 9: Much on some of those turnovers, or you know, trying

1738
01:16:39,074 --> 01:16:41,674
Speaker 9: to take it upon himself to produce.

1739
01:16:42,114 --> 01:16:44,914
Speaker 20: Drake is a competitor and he's always going to try

1740
01:16:44,914 --> 01:16:46,194
Speaker 20: to go out there and make plays. And I think

1741
01:16:46,314 --> 01:16:48,154
Speaker 20: just the way that he's played, you know, how well

1742
01:16:48,194 --> 01:16:50,474
Speaker 20: he's played this year, oftentimes we forget that he's a

1743
01:16:50,554 --> 01:16:53,594
Speaker 20: rookie quarterback and those are those are lessons learning. And

1744
01:16:53,634 --> 01:16:57,754
Speaker 20: I've been very upfront about this that the intangible with Drake,

1745
01:16:58,154 --> 01:17:00,714
Speaker 20: you know, besides his even demeanor, has he's learned from

1746
01:17:00,754 --> 01:17:03,194
Speaker 20: his mistakes and I expect that to continue going forward?

1747
01:17:03,514 --> 01:17:06,994
Speaker 14: Did you right focus this following off for Canters talking

1748
01:17:06,994 --> 01:17:08,194
Speaker 14: about and turns to turnovers, I.

1749
01:17:08,194 --> 01:17:10,434
Speaker 9: Have to turn to funneling and it's been a tough

1750
01:17:10,474 --> 01:17:12,234
Speaker 9: year for Remontrat there's no doubt about it.

1751
01:17:12,754 --> 01:17:15,594
Speaker 10: Well, could you as a coach want to try to

1752
01:17:15,594 --> 01:17:16,474
Speaker 10: prevent fumbles?

1753
01:17:16,714 --> 01:17:19,073
Speaker 12: Is it a bntal thing or is it a technique

1754
01:17:19,114 --> 01:17:20,274
Speaker 12: thing with holding the ball?

1755
01:17:20,394 --> 01:17:22,034
Speaker 8: How do you how do you try to prevent that?

1756
01:17:22,554 --> 01:17:24,874
Speaker 20: I mean it's a combination of the two. I mean

1757
01:17:24,874 --> 01:17:27,434
Speaker 20: you have to understand how important that is. And then

1758
01:17:27,434 --> 01:17:29,154
Speaker 20: there's also that you want to take you through the

1759
01:17:29,154 --> 01:17:32,194
Speaker 20: whole elbow tight, eagle claw, grip, that whole thing. But

1760
01:17:32,234 --> 01:17:35,154
Speaker 20: it is there is a there is a technique about it.

1761
01:17:35,114 --> 01:17:37,754
Speaker 20: And then just the overall focus rod.

1762
01:17:37,634 --> 01:17:40,154
Speaker 6: Last yet very progestal for a picture for the offense

1763
01:17:40,274 --> 01:17:43,434
Speaker 6: because team a lot of different personnelse what's the biggest

1764
01:17:43,434 --> 01:17:46,434
Speaker 6: difference seeing him go Rollan's.

1765
01:17:46,114 --> 01:17:50,194
Speaker 20: Offense with Harf Yeah, I mean, look, I think he's

1766
01:17:50,234 --> 01:17:52,434
Speaker 20: doing a good job protecting the ball. I think, h

1767
01:17:52,634 --> 01:17:55,834
Speaker 20: what does he have three interceptions? Something low? But that's

1768
01:17:55,994 --> 01:17:57,754
Speaker 20: I mean that's what he's doing a great job at

1769
01:17:57,794 --> 01:17:59,954
Speaker 20: and it gives that chance that team a chance to

1770
01:17:59,994 --> 01:18:01,674
Speaker 20: win the funs.

1771
01:18:02,194 --> 01:18:05,194
Speaker 5: So players in the sideline where John Jones is.

1772
01:18:05,194 --> 01:18:09,634
Speaker 17: Making the tackle by himself from Shakir and also punches.

1773
01:18:09,994 --> 01:18:12,794
Speaker 17: It seems like that sort of evolve a few punches.

1774
01:18:12,874 --> 01:18:13,914
Speaker 11: But thnbody used to be the.

1775
01:18:13,834 --> 01:18:15,914
Speaker 6: Second guy coming eat it now And if you're you're

1776
01:18:15,954 --> 01:18:16,834
Speaker 6: teaching that or.

1777
01:18:16,714 --> 01:18:18,874
Speaker 20: Is that just an instant thing we always teach that

1778
01:18:18,914 --> 01:18:21,554
Speaker 20: in John Jones over the last few years, has all

1779
01:18:21,594 --> 01:18:24,194
Speaker 20: you know come up with plays like that. He just

1780
01:18:24,234 --> 01:18:26,754
Speaker 20: has a knack for punching the ball. You know, you

1781
01:18:26,794 --> 01:18:28,674
Speaker 20: always want to make sure that the tackle was secure.

1782
01:18:28,674 --> 01:18:30,394
Speaker 20: I don't want to get away from that. But at

1783
01:18:30,394 --> 01:18:32,674
Speaker 20: the same time, that's, uh, that's something that's been very

1784
01:18:32,674 --> 01:18:33,634
Speaker 20: good at for a while now.

1785
01:18:34,274 --> 01:18:37,714
Speaker 6: As a player coach, hobvious, do you appreciate and try

1786
01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:40,874
Speaker 6: to get Christmas in there for your players? And was

1787
01:18:40,914 --> 01:18:43,394
Speaker 6: there a favorite gift you got as a kid football?

1788
01:18:43,594 --> 01:18:44,794
Speaker 13: Was anything like that?

1789
01:18:47,474 --> 01:18:49,594
Speaker 20: I was, you know, just to go back to the

1790
01:18:49,634 --> 01:18:52,594
Speaker 20: gift part. I still remember being a young kid. You know,

1791
01:18:53,594 --> 01:18:55,834
Speaker 20: at the time, I think single parent home. I have

1792
01:18:55,874 --> 01:18:57,834
Speaker 20: a great step dad. Shout out to all the stepdads.

1793
01:18:57,834 --> 01:19:00,914
Speaker 20: But my grandfather bought us Mountain bikes and it took

1794
01:19:00,954 --> 01:19:03,274
Speaker 20: us to the b AMX track and I was scared

1795
01:19:03,274 --> 01:19:03,994
Speaker 20: to go up to hill.

1796
01:19:05,394 --> 01:19:07,434
Speaker 8: It was almost like my grandfather.

1797
01:19:07,234 --> 01:19:09,074
Speaker 20: You know, not that I was a spanking for not

1798
01:19:09,114 --> 01:19:10,554
Speaker 20: going up to hill, but it was one of those

1799
01:19:10,594 --> 01:19:12,474
Speaker 20: types like I better get my butt up to hell.

1800
01:19:12,514 --> 01:19:14,714
Speaker 8: So that that was one of that was a great memory.

1801
01:19:14,714 --> 01:19:17,194
Speaker 8: I appreciate you bringing that up. I went up that hill.

1802
01:19:17,914 --> 01:19:20,674
Speaker 8: I went up that hill. That's the easy part. That's

1803
01:19:20,674 --> 01:19:21,154
Speaker 8: the easy part.

1804
01:19:21,194 --> 01:19:22,914
Speaker 20: There was a BMX track like five minutes from my

1805
01:19:22,954 --> 01:19:25,154
Speaker 20: house and we had to ride those new bikes mountain

1806
01:19:25,314 --> 01:19:27,954
Speaker 20: bikes to a BMX track. So all the other kids

1807
01:19:27,954 --> 01:19:30,514
Speaker 20: had their you know, their uh you know, huffies and

1808
01:19:30,554 --> 01:19:32,394
Speaker 20: all that stuff, and we got these big tires on.

1809
01:19:32,354 --> 01:19:33,914
Speaker 8: Our on our mountain bikes. But it was fun.

1810
01:19:35,234 --> 01:19:37,954
Speaker 12: Do you have a favorite Christmas movie or your kids

1811
01:19:37,954 --> 01:19:40,354
Speaker 12: that your favorite that you like to spend.

1812
01:19:41,114 --> 01:19:43,834
Speaker 8: I'm a huge home along guy. You know. It was

1813
01:19:44,034 --> 01:19:44,754
Speaker 8: during my time.

1814
01:19:45,474 --> 01:19:48,194
Speaker 20: And then the big you know, the big debate or

1815
01:19:48,194 --> 01:19:52,274
Speaker 20: back and forth is die Hard U Christmas movie? And

1816
01:19:52,314 --> 01:19:54,474
Speaker 20: I say it is it is.

1817
01:19:56,074 --> 01:19:57,794
Speaker 7: What types of things are your kids asking for?

1818
01:19:58,554 --> 01:19:59,354
Speaker 8: I had no clue.

1819
01:20:00,114 --> 01:20:02,074
Speaker 20: And again that's why I started this off. You know,

1820
01:20:02,114 --> 01:20:03,834
Speaker 20: I just want to think. I just want to thank

1821
01:20:03,914 --> 01:20:06,234
Speaker 20: my wife and thank it. You know, just all the

1822
01:20:06,234 --> 01:20:08,274
Speaker 20: people men and women who go out and do the

1823
01:20:08,354 --> 01:20:10,994
Speaker 20: Christmas shopping and allow you know, their spouse or significant

1824
01:20:11,034 --> 01:20:12,914
Speaker 20: other to focus on what they have to focus on.

1825
01:20:13,434 --> 01:20:16,034
Speaker 9: Did you believe in did you believe in Santa? And

1826
01:20:16,074 --> 01:20:18,354
Speaker 9: do your kids believe in Santa?

1827
01:20:18,714 --> 01:20:19,153
Speaker 6: Do?

1828
01:20:20,154 --> 01:20:21,794
Speaker 20: When I was a little kid, now, the way I

1829
01:20:21,834 --> 01:20:23,714
Speaker 20: was worri is they wanted to make sure, you know,

1830
01:20:23,954 --> 01:20:27,754
Speaker 20: you knew where those gifts came from. And my kids,

1831
01:20:27,794 --> 01:20:29,354
Speaker 20: you know, I feel like at this point in time,

1832
01:20:29,394 --> 01:20:32,074
Speaker 20: the new generation, they believe more in the lf on

1833
01:20:32,114 --> 01:20:35,154
Speaker 20: the shelf than they do actual Santa Claus, and that

1834
01:20:35,194 --> 01:20:37,114
Speaker 20: in itself takes time. I'm not sure if you guys

1835
01:20:37,114 --> 01:20:39,514
Speaker 20: are familiar, like doing all the creative things with the

1836
01:20:39,634 --> 01:20:42,034
Speaker 20: lf on the shelf, you know, pouring the cereal out

1837
01:20:42,034 --> 01:20:44,994
Speaker 20: in the kitchen and throwing toilet paper around the house

1838
01:20:45,034 --> 01:20:47,754
Speaker 20: and moving the l's and there you.

1839
01:20:47,714 --> 01:20:54,194
Speaker 8: Go, same thing, same thing. The kids love it though,

1840
01:20:54,194 --> 01:20:54,954
Speaker 8: the kids love it?

1841
01:20:55,794 --> 01:20:58,954
Speaker 17: No, yesked you at last week ago comparisons between Rake

1842
01:20:59,434 --> 01:21:02,074
Speaker 17: Josh Allen, You see me seting writings between Drake and

1843
01:21:02,234 --> 01:21:03,194
Speaker 17: Justin Kilberg.

1844
01:21:05,154 --> 01:21:05,354
Speaker 5: You know.

1845
01:21:05,394 --> 01:21:07,954
Speaker 20: For me, it's it's probably too early to tell. What

1846
01:21:07,994 --> 01:21:09,794
Speaker 20: I would say is you know again, I don't want

1847
01:21:09,794 --> 01:21:11,994
Speaker 20: to get into the comparison thing. I think Drake is

1848
01:21:12,354 --> 01:21:14,034
Speaker 20: on track to be a very special player in this

1849
01:21:14,114 --> 01:21:17,154
Speaker 20: league and hopefully we all get a chance to see it.

1850
01:21:17,914 --> 01:21:18,234
Speaker 8: Thanks.

1851
01:21:20,674 --> 01:21:25,954
Speaker 19: Yes, your performance, you know, the performance like sexual excuse me,

1852
01:21:26,274 --> 01:21:28,354
Speaker 19: Willy are you saying or something wrong with my gear?

1853
01:21:28,674 --> 01:21:31,554
Speaker 5: So what you're saying to me, I'm sorry you're gear? Willie?

1854
01:21:31,754 --> 01:21:32,754
Speaker 8: My stick?

1855
01:21:32,994 --> 01:21:35,234
Speaker 1: He's not going to say stick in.

1856
01:21:35,114 --> 01:21:36,434
Speaker 11: Front of the children, does he?

1857
01:21:36,434 --> 01:21:38,034
Speaker 7: Hey, our friend that we were just talking about before

1858
01:21:38,034 --> 01:21:38,514
Speaker 7: we went on there.

1859
01:21:38,554 --> 01:21:41,674
Speaker 19: Marcopello already posted on Instagram. Get the tree down, that's over,

1860
01:21:41,834 --> 01:21:43,113
Speaker 19: take the lights off, turn.

1861
01:21:46,794 --> 01:21:49,634
Speaker 12: Grieving and grieve about you whatever you want.

1862
01:21:49,954 --> 01:21:52,234
Speaker 5: I want to thank you all for doing shows Tuesday

1863
01:21:52,234 --> 01:21:55,474
Speaker 5: and today. Most podcasts are putting out nothing or or

1864
01:21:55,674 --> 01:21:58,234
Speaker 5: best of shows. The radio was putting their Sea team

1865
01:21:58,314 --> 01:22:02,194
Speaker 5: out there no offense. Paul's as someone who has to

1866
01:22:02,274 --> 01:22:03,073
Speaker 5: work tomorrow.

1867
01:22:03,274 --> 01:22:04,914
Speaker 6: I don't want to look straight in the eye. I

1868
01:22:04,954 --> 01:22:05,834
Speaker 6: don't want to tell him what.

1869
01:22:05,794 --> 01:22:10,314
Speaker 12: A sheep lying no good, rotting for flushing, lowlife, snake licking,

1870
01:22:10,354 --> 01:22:18,674
Speaker 12: dirt eating and bread over stuff, ignorant, but sucking, dog kissing, brainless, homeless, heartless, fantass,

1871
01:22:18,754 --> 01:22:22,234
Speaker 12: bug eyed step playing. It's funny and worm aheaded sack

1872
01:22:22,314 --> 01:22:22,874
Speaker 12: of monkey.

1873
01:22:23,194 --> 01:22:26,954
Speaker 5: He is I know, just tuned in live for the

1874
01:22:26,954 --> 01:22:27,874
Speaker 5: first time ever.

1875
01:22:29,194 --> 01:22:29,634
Speaker 6: Excellent.

1876
01:22:29,954 --> 01:22:32,474
Speaker 5: A lot of people at home Christmas welcome a boyanag

1877
01:22:33,194 --> 01:22:37,113
Speaker 5: you know, sitting by the yule tide and uh listening

1878
01:22:37,114 --> 01:22:37,874
Speaker 5: to su.

1879
01:22:37,954 --> 01:22:40,994
Speaker 6: Sitting by the yule log, sitting by the Yule tide.

1880
01:22:42,714 --> 01:22:43,954
Speaker 5: Some people are by the oceans.

1881
01:22:44,754 --> 01:22:47,994
Speaker 1: Okay, not the river though, no river wouldn't have a

1882
01:22:48,034 --> 01:22:48,514
Speaker 1: Yule tide.

1883
01:22:48,754 --> 01:22:52,714
Speaker 5: Correct to everyone out there listening, have a merry Christmas.

1884
01:22:52,794 --> 01:22:53,874
Speaker 5: That's what you celebrate.

1885
01:22:54,114 --> 01:23:00,794
Speaker 6: Merry Christmas.

1886
01:23:01,194 --> 01:23:04,554
Speaker 5: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered. We've been joined

1887
01:23:04,554 --> 01:23:05,314
Speaker 5: by Evan.

1888
01:23:08,194 --> 01:23:19,354
Speaker 4: Evan Has we turned? Has we turned? Has we turned?

1889
01:23:21,034 --> 01:23:21,154
Speaker 3: All?

1890
01:23:21,274 --> 01:23:21,394
Speaker 5: Right?

1891
01:23:21,474 --> 01:23:26,074
Speaker 9: Evan, who wasn't there, has has some to it today.

1892
01:23:27,434 --> 01:23:29,994
Speaker 5: A lot of Christmas casualties.

1893
01:23:30,074 --> 01:23:31,954
Speaker 9: For both the players and the media.

1894
01:23:32,114 --> 01:23:38,154
Speaker 5: You know, let's hold because that sounds.

1895
01:23:39,394 --> 01:23:41,874
Speaker 9: And because I'm watching him on the radio.

1896
01:23:42,274 --> 01:23:42,674
Speaker 5: Okay.

1897
01:23:44,074 --> 01:23:49,434
Speaker 9: Jabriel Peppers, Kyle Duggar, Marcus Jones, and Ben Brown all

1898
01:23:49,474 --> 01:23:57,274
Speaker 9: missing from Patriots practice on Tuesday. So there are some

1899
01:23:57,834 --> 01:24:00,274
Speaker 9: you know, some of these are explained, right, we know

1900
01:24:00,354 --> 01:24:05,394
Speaker 9: Pepper's dugger and Marcus Jones and what they're dealing with hamstring,

1901
01:24:05,834 --> 01:24:10,514
Speaker 9: ankle slash illness, and I think Mark Jones an ankle

1902
01:24:10,754 --> 01:24:14,874
Speaker 9: or hip hip for Marcus Jones, Ben Brown is a mystery, mystery,

1903
01:24:15,114 --> 01:24:17,274
Speaker 9: mystery injury. We don't know what's up with that, but

1904
01:24:17,394 --> 01:24:20,754
Speaker 9: I will say the snaps have not been good and

1905
01:24:20,874 --> 01:24:24,034
Speaker 9: uh yeah they they said it was the towel the

1906
01:24:24,034 --> 01:24:27,074
Speaker 9: week before. There was no towel excuse this time. It

1907
01:24:27,074 --> 01:24:30,314
Speaker 9: was ten degrees everything off to the side. Yeah, no,

1908
01:24:30,394 --> 01:24:33,034
Speaker 9: not good. All game long he was having issues with

1909
01:24:33,074 --> 01:24:35,354
Speaker 9: the snaps, So it would make sense that maybe he's

1910
01:24:35,394 --> 01:24:38,434
Speaker 9: dealing with something because that came out of nowhere to me.

1911
01:24:38,954 --> 01:24:40,674
Speaker 9: I thought his snaps are fine up until this.

1912
01:24:40,874 --> 01:24:42,234
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't that weird?

1913
01:24:42,434 --> 01:24:43,954
Speaker 9: Yeah, some sort of.

1914
01:24:43,914 --> 01:24:46,754
Speaker 10: Injuryron elbow brace too, it's just a month yeah yeah.

1915
01:24:46,874 --> 01:24:48,634
Speaker 9: And he also has been walking around with a sleeve

1916
01:24:48,674 --> 01:24:51,074
Speaker 9: on his leg for a little while now too. I

1917
01:24:51,074 --> 01:24:53,274
Speaker 9: don't know. I think he's banged up and maybe that

1918
01:24:53,914 --> 01:24:55,954
Speaker 9: is why the snaps have been an issue two weeks

1919
01:24:55,994 --> 01:24:59,314
Speaker 9: in a row now, So all right, cold strange.

1920
01:24:59,034 --> 01:25:06,714
Speaker 5: Cold strange. Possibly seeing some action this week what else outside.

1921
01:25:06,674 --> 01:25:09,514
Speaker 9: In the stadium, in the stadium, outside in the stadium.

1922
01:25:10,994 --> 01:25:15,794
Speaker 9: I interesting. Interesting that they've been doing that shells light day.

1923
01:25:16,674 --> 01:25:20,674
Speaker 9: Jamichael Hasty was back. He didn't practice it all last week,

1924
01:25:20,754 --> 01:25:23,954
Speaker 9: missed the game on Sunday. Austin Hooper was present, so

1925
01:25:23,994 --> 01:25:26,874
Speaker 9: it looks like he avoided any injuries from that hit.

1926
01:25:27,234 --> 01:25:30,914
Speaker 9: And one that was interesting is that Curtis Jacob's practicing.

1927
01:25:31,274 --> 01:25:34,514
Speaker 9: He's on injured reserve. Sounded like he had a bag concussion,

1928
01:25:35,394 --> 01:25:38,714
Speaker 9: so they started his clock, which I thought was okay,

1929
01:25:38,874 --> 01:25:41,154
Speaker 9: peculiar people that know who that is.

1930
01:25:41,314 --> 01:25:43,194
Speaker 5: Yeah, why do you think they were in the Bowl

1931
01:25:43,234 --> 01:25:45,434
Speaker 5: today just doing work on the other.

1932
01:25:45,274 --> 01:25:48,034
Speaker 9: Fields or I don't know, because we originally were told

1933
01:25:48,034 --> 01:25:50,434
Speaker 9: it was going to be on the lower practice field

1934
01:25:50,434 --> 01:25:54,274
Speaker 9: as it's been. I do think that there's a wind

1935
01:25:54,394 --> 01:25:56,714
Speaker 9: element and a construction element.

1936
01:25:56,954 --> 01:26:00,113
Speaker 7: Yeah, I bet you the wind is blowing construction Debrise

1937
01:26:00,154 --> 01:26:00,674
Speaker 7: like right up.

1938
01:26:01,154 --> 01:26:03,634
Speaker 9: Yeah, So that would be my guess is that the

1939
01:26:03,714 --> 01:26:09,114
Speaker 9: construction out there, the wind. There are times that they

1940
01:26:09,154 --> 01:26:11,634
Speaker 9: tell us that it's it's almost like you can't even

1941
01:26:11,834 --> 01:26:15,394
Speaker 9: really accomplish anything because of how windy it can get

1942
01:26:15,714 --> 01:26:19,154
Speaker 9: back there at times. And so you're going to be

1943
01:26:19,154 --> 01:26:23,554
Speaker 9: playing near anyways on Saturday, So what difference isn't really.

1944
01:26:23,354 --> 01:26:26,234
Speaker 6: Is there any snow in the practice fields? Could be maybe,

1945
01:26:26,514 --> 01:26:28,554
Speaker 6: you know, I had a hard time because obviously it's

1946
01:26:28,634 --> 01:26:32,274
Speaker 6: much easier to clear the bowls with the surf, right.

1947
01:26:32,194 --> 01:26:32,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be.

1948
01:26:32,954 --> 01:26:33,634
Speaker 9: It's a good point.

1949
01:26:33,914 --> 01:26:37,674
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, what's going on with the media.

1950
01:26:38,034 --> 01:26:42,554
Speaker 9: Just not throwing shade at anybody, but just there wasn't

1951
01:26:42,714 --> 01:26:45,074
Speaker 9: a lot of people there today. That's all just not

1952
01:26:45,154 --> 01:26:50,754
Speaker 9: a notable people or yeah, you know, obviously myself, Mike Reece,

1953
01:26:51,194 --> 01:26:55,154
Speaker 9: Christopher Price from the Boston we were all there. Shout

1954
01:26:55,194 --> 01:26:58,073
Speaker 9: out Brian Hines, he was there practice.

1955
01:26:58,154 --> 01:27:00,274
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, if you don't mention the name. They weren't

1956
01:27:00,274 --> 01:27:01,554
Speaker 5: there exactly.

1957
01:27:01,754 --> 01:27:04,194
Speaker 9: And I know two people that have excuses. One of

1958
01:27:04,234 --> 01:27:06,794
Speaker 9: them is is Andrew and one of them is Barth

1959
01:27:06,874 --> 01:27:10,754
Speaker 9: because they're both on ninety eight five this afternoon. But look,

1960
01:27:10,794 --> 01:27:12,074
Speaker 9: I don't know was there.

1961
01:27:12,634 --> 01:27:13,514
Speaker 5: That's very poor to me.

1962
01:27:13,594 --> 01:27:14,994
Speaker 6: There was only four people that went.

1963
01:27:15,354 --> 01:27:19,274
Speaker 9: Like TV people too, you know, but like so under ten.

1964
01:27:20,274 --> 01:27:22,514
Speaker 9: Well we were taking attendance and like you know, normally

1965
01:27:22,554 --> 01:27:24,714
Speaker 9: we take Barth and I take attendance and then we

1966
01:27:24,794 --> 01:27:27,594
Speaker 9: go and we compare notes with the rest of the contingent,

1967
01:27:27,714 --> 01:27:29,314
Speaker 9: just to make sure we all have the same thing.

1968
01:27:29,634 --> 01:27:31,434
Speaker 9: And I'm looking around and I'm like, oh.

1969
01:27:31,474 --> 01:27:36,394
Speaker 5: They'll help you. Obviously, the players are off tomorrow because

1970
01:27:36,394 --> 01:27:39,514
Speaker 5: it's Christmas. So does that mean today there's food or.

1971
01:27:39,474 --> 01:27:40,674
Speaker 9: No no food?

1972
01:27:40,714 --> 01:27:43,274
Speaker 5: All that just that if there was a food food,

1973
01:27:43,314 --> 01:27:45,114
Speaker 5: there might have been bigger attendance.

1974
01:27:45,274 --> 01:27:45,794
Speaker 9: No food.

1975
01:27:46,434 --> 01:27:46,874
Speaker 11: There was a.

1976
01:27:46,834 --> 01:27:48,994
Speaker 6: Small crowd at the press conference today too.

1977
01:27:49,114 --> 01:27:50,634
Speaker 10: Yeah, Paul yelled out.

1978
01:27:51,314 --> 01:27:56,674
Speaker 5: Okay, say just the diehards or what would you say Friday?

1979
01:27:56,954 --> 01:27:59,554
Speaker 6: It was just it was just a.

1980
01:28:00,034 --> 01:28:02,194
Speaker 10: Little tip of the caps.

1981
01:28:02,994 --> 01:28:05,234
Speaker 9: Doug was at locker room. You're right, he did not,

1982
01:28:05,514 --> 01:28:09,874
Speaker 9: He did not hang out. But yeah, you know, look,

1983
01:28:09,914 --> 01:28:12,754
Speaker 9: it's just I was. I was alone, man, I was

1984
01:28:12,834 --> 01:28:15,394
Speaker 9: needed help with attendance. And luckily Brian stepped up to

1985
01:28:15,434 --> 01:28:16,434
Speaker 9: the plate and he yelled.

1986
01:28:16,234 --> 01:28:18,994
Speaker 5: Me out, nice, good guy, Okay, all right, good stuff

1987
01:28:18,994 --> 01:28:23,114
Speaker 5: to worry. Let's see we only have two picks today.

1988
01:28:23,114 --> 01:28:27,114
Speaker 5: I keep thinking we heard yeah, so let's get back

1989
01:28:27,114 --> 01:28:32,114
Speaker 5: to the TPX hotline and podcasts at Patriots dot com

1990
01:28:32,154 --> 01:28:36,474
Speaker 5: the email address. Brett from Lemonster writes in so I

1991
01:28:36,474 --> 01:28:39,194
Speaker 5: think very literally when Paul says we should pick the

1992
01:28:39,234 --> 01:28:42,154
Speaker 5: most talented player available. I get that, but how literal

1993
01:28:42,274 --> 01:28:44,754
Speaker 5: are we being Do we draft a quarterback in the

1994
01:28:44,754 --> 01:28:46,874
Speaker 5: second round if that's the most talented player there, or

1995
01:28:46,874 --> 01:28:48,794
Speaker 5: do we reach a little for a cornerback or a

1996
01:28:48,834 --> 01:28:51,834
Speaker 5: running back who was the fifth best player left. For instance,

1997
01:28:52,194 --> 01:28:54,194
Speaker 5: I took a look at a random list of best

1998
01:28:54,194 --> 01:28:57,194
Speaker 5: players ranked and also a look at projected picks the

1999
01:28:57,194 --> 01:28:59,954
Speaker 5: Patriots may have. These are the positions that came up

2000
01:28:59,954 --> 01:29:02,554
Speaker 5: for the first five picks, assuming these were the most

2001
01:29:02,554 --> 01:29:05,474
Speaker 5: talented players when the Patriots picked. Would you be good

2002
01:29:05,514 --> 01:29:09,794
Speaker 5: with these positions being taken? First round cornerback, second round,

2003
01:29:10,674 --> 01:29:15,394
Speaker 5: second to third round running back, third round edge, fourth

2004
01:29:15,474 --> 01:29:19,394
Speaker 5: round outside linebacker, in fifth round linebacker.

2005
01:29:19,634 --> 01:29:21,514
Speaker 9: What's the difference between outside linebacker?

2006
01:29:21,554 --> 01:29:22,114
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

2007
01:29:22,714 --> 01:29:28,034
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I understand his point. What I mean by

2008
01:29:28,794 --> 01:29:31,914
Speaker 6: they can take the best player available is they're not

2009
01:29:32,354 --> 01:29:34,474
Speaker 6: held to a position. No, I wouldn't take it. First

2010
01:29:34,474 --> 01:29:37,794
Speaker 6: of all, that excludes quarterback. Second of all, I don't

2011
01:29:37,794 --> 01:29:40,234
Speaker 6: think it's as much about that as you move on

2012
01:29:40,394 --> 01:29:43,234
Speaker 6: in the draft, because early in the draft you have

2013
01:29:43,274 --> 01:29:46,154
Speaker 6: a chance that there's a significant difference between like a

2014
01:29:46,194 --> 01:29:48,674
Speaker 6: blue chip guy like Travis Hunter. If you think he's

2015
01:29:48,714 --> 01:29:51,394
Speaker 6: the best player in the draft, and then like the

2016
01:29:51,434 --> 01:29:55,154
Speaker 6: best tackle might be a huge gap, you know, like

2017
01:29:55,274 --> 01:29:58,234
Speaker 6: in terms of their overall ability. It's it kind of

2018
01:29:58,314 --> 01:30:00,994
Speaker 6: lessens as you go on in the draft, like players

2019
01:30:00,994 --> 01:30:03,714
Speaker 6: are sort of clustered together as you stop me. If

2020
01:30:03,754 --> 01:30:06,514
Speaker 6: you heard this one before, Deuce stack the board vertically

2021
01:30:06,634 --> 01:30:11,394
Speaker 6: and horizontally right from that, Yeah, I will not be

2022
01:30:11,434 --> 01:30:13,994
Speaker 6: stacking either way. I'll leave that to you experts.

2023
01:30:14,594 --> 01:30:16,554
Speaker 10: Diagonally sometimes too, just for fun.

2024
01:30:16,954 --> 01:30:18,834
Speaker 6: Well, that doesn't make any sense, Mike, if he's not

2025
01:30:18,834 --> 01:30:22,714
Speaker 6: going to take it serious. Evan, x Y and.

2026
01:30:22,834 --> 01:30:25,314
Speaker 10: Z axis share with you, guys.

2027
01:30:25,314 --> 01:30:26,274
Speaker 6: But uh, it's.

2028
01:30:28,594 --> 01:30:31,394
Speaker 9: I always say the best player available at a position

2029
01:30:31,434 --> 01:30:33,594
Speaker 9: of need. I think the best player available thing is

2030
01:30:33,634 --> 01:30:36,674
Speaker 9: a crock Like, you're not gonna I mean, I almost

2031
01:30:36,714 --> 01:30:38,314
Speaker 9: that you're not gonna take a guard. Bill would take

2032
01:30:38,354 --> 01:30:39,954
Speaker 9: a guard, So I'm not gonna say you're not gonna

2033
01:30:39,954 --> 01:30:40,514
Speaker 9: take a guard.

2034
01:30:40,554 --> 01:30:43,194
Speaker 5: But like, well, is there any other than quarterback? Is

2035
01:30:43,194 --> 01:30:45,234
Speaker 5: there any position that's not a position of need on

2036
01:30:45,274 --> 01:30:45,674
Speaker 5: this team?

2037
01:30:46,794 --> 01:30:49,834
Speaker 9: Immediate need? Like, I don't think they need any more guards.

2038
01:30:50,114 --> 01:30:52,154
Speaker 9: You have enough bodies there. I don't really think running

2039
01:30:52,194 --> 01:30:54,594
Speaker 9: back is like a huge pressing need. They have two

2040
01:30:54,594 --> 01:30:58,194
Speaker 9: guys that are capable there, But yeah, your point is

2041
01:30:58,514 --> 01:31:00,994
Speaker 9: is valid. I mean, there's definitely a lot of holes,

2042
01:31:01,034 --> 01:31:03,514
Speaker 9: but I just look at maybe better way of putting

2043
01:31:03,554 --> 01:31:05,994
Speaker 9: it for them right now is at a premium position, right, Like,

2044
01:31:06,034 --> 01:31:08,874
Speaker 9: you don't want to draft that high and be drafting

2045
01:31:09,074 --> 01:31:14,434
Speaker 9: somebody that's not a receiver, tackle, corner, edge rusher, right

2046
01:31:14,514 --> 01:31:16,074
Speaker 9: with quarterback obviously out of it.

2047
01:31:17,274 --> 01:31:20,634
Speaker 5: Franklin and Baltimore. My question to the panel is do

2048
01:31:20,674 --> 01:31:24,194
Speaker 5: you think there's something there with Booty? Not trying to

2049
01:31:24,234 --> 01:31:27,154
Speaker 5: overhype him or anything, especially because he's been inconsistent, but

2050
01:31:27,234 --> 01:31:29,394
Speaker 5: May does seem to have some chemistry with him, and

2051
01:31:29,434 --> 01:31:32,314
Speaker 5: he has shown an ability for big passing plays plus

2052
01:31:32,354 --> 01:31:35,154
Speaker 5: twenty yards. If he could just be consistent, I think

2053
01:31:35,154 --> 01:31:38,234
Speaker 5: he can develop into a solid number three. I'm interested

2054
01:31:38,234 --> 01:31:39,474
Speaker 5: to hear your thoughts.

2055
01:31:40,274 --> 01:31:42,154
Speaker 10: But that's what's weird, is like using him as a

2056
01:31:42,194 --> 01:31:44,394
Speaker 10: number three and like what capacity, So he's gonna like

2057
01:31:44,434 --> 01:31:47,154
Speaker 10: come on occasionally and be kind of the Z receiver.

2058
01:31:47,314 --> 01:31:49,794
Speaker 10: Like I just I look at him as nice little

2059
01:31:49,834 --> 01:31:51,954
Speaker 10: season come back and fight your ass off again for

2060
01:31:51,994 --> 01:31:54,874
Speaker 10: a roster spot and hopefully they do enough in free

2061
01:31:54,914 --> 01:31:57,514
Speaker 10: agency in the draft that he's gonna have to fight

2062
01:31:57,594 --> 01:31:59,634
Speaker 10: to retain this kind of position because that to me,

2063
01:31:59,834 --> 01:32:02,874
Speaker 10: like everybody talks about getting that number one, guess what

2064
01:32:02,954 --> 01:32:04,794
Speaker 10: position he's going that number one is going to play.

2065
01:32:04,834 --> 01:32:06,114
Speaker 10: If they do get that number one, then you to

2066
01:32:06,194 --> 01:32:08,994
Speaker 10: go play over Keijhan Bouti. So you know, look, it's

2067
01:32:09,074 --> 01:32:11,834
Speaker 10: it's one of the few good stories of development this year.

2068
01:32:11,834 --> 01:32:15,354
Speaker 10: But like almost every other position on the team come

2069
01:32:15,394 --> 01:32:17,714
Speaker 10: back and fight for roster spot next year, every one

2070
01:32:17,754 --> 01:32:18,034
Speaker 10: of them.

2071
01:32:18,114 --> 01:32:22,034
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I do think there's something there. Like you know,

2072
01:32:22,154 --> 01:32:28,194
Speaker 5: in a season where wide receiver where specifically has been

2073
01:32:28,194 --> 01:32:31,714
Speaker 5: a big disappointment, he's been he's had some moments.

2074
01:32:31,874 --> 01:32:35,714
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I would agree with and it's it's different,

2075
01:32:35,754 --> 01:32:37,434
Speaker 6: but it's kind of like what I'm talking about. That's

2076
01:32:37,434 --> 01:32:39,914
Speaker 6: why I want these guys to play. Yeah, Like you

2077
01:32:40,034 --> 01:32:42,874
Speaker 6: easily could say, well, you know, he's a healthy scratch,

2078
01:32:42,914 --> 01:32:45,874
Speaker 6: he's behind these but you never know until the guy plays.

2079
01:32:46,154 --> 01:32:49,073
Speaker 6: And if you would ask me that same question in September,

2080
01:32:49,074 --> 01:32:51,074
Speaker 6: I would have said, no way, yeah, yeah, but he

2081
01:32:51,154 --> 01:32:52,554
Speaker 6: has been sometimes credit.

2082
01:32:52,274 --> 01:32:55,474
Speaker 9: To him, he belongs on an NFL roster at that position.

2083
01:32:55,554 --> 01:32:58,153
Speaker 9: That's about as far as I'm willing to go, right now,

2084
01:32:58,714 --> 01:33:02,114
Speaker 9: but I think that he's got a knack for separating

2085
01:33:02,434 --> 01:33:05,074
Speaker 9: late on those go routes. He has a really good

2086
01:33:05,154 --> 01:33:07,914
Speaker 9: job of like kind of just pulling away late in

2087
01:33:07,954 --> 01:33:10,554
Speaker 9: the when the balls in the air, which is a

2088
01:33:10,594 --> 01:33:13,034
Speaker 9: good skill to have, especially if you're playing you know,

2089
01:33:13,034 --> 01:33:15,274
Speaker 9: a lot of press man because the corner's back is

2090
01:33:15,274 --> 01:33:17,434
Speaker 9: to the quarterback, so he doesn't necessarily know the ball

2091
01:33:17,514 --> 01:33:20,074
Speaker 9: is coming, and so you can have that little late

2092
01:33:20,154 --> 01:33:23,554
Speaker 9: separation like he had in the on the play on Sunday.

2093
01:33:23,594 --> 01:33:26,034
Speaker 9: That that's a skill, you know, that's like a knack

2094
01:33:26,114 --> 01:33:30,594
Speaker 9: for that. So but in general, he's not. You gotta

2095
01:33:30,674 --> 01:33:33,314
Speaker 9: do better, I would say, But I think he belongs

2096
01:33:33,354 --> 01:33:35,314
Speaker 9: on the team, Like I think he's an NFL receiver.

2097
01:33:35,634 --> 01:33:39,274
Speaker 5: Yep, Travis in West Virginia. I read the last newsletter

2098
01:33:39,354 --> 01:33:42,274
Speaker 5: that the Desault family hands out Christmas presents one at

2099
01:33:42,274 --> 01:33:45,154
Speaker 5: a time, which I'm a big fan of. Do the

2100
01:33:45,194 --> 01:33:47,834
Speaker 5: rest of you do the same under no circumstances. Should

2101
01:33:47,874 --> 01:33:50,354
Speaker 5: kids be allowed to just tear into presents and go

2102
01:33:50,434 --> 01:33:51,234
Speaker 5: wild on their own?

2103
01:33:51,234 --> 01:33:51,314
Speaker 18: No?

2104
01:33:51,394 --> 01:33:54,034
Speaker 5: I agree, that's how we do it, Like we kind

2105
01:33:54,034 --> 01:33:56,594
Speaker 5: of like spread them out, you know, so like everybody

2106
01:33:56,674 --> 01:33:57,874
Speaker 5: kind of alternates.

2107
01:33:58,034 --> 01:34:02,994
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, one opens two gifts before someone's opened, right, yeah, right.

2108
01:34:02,874 --> 01:34:04,674
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do the same. But the problem is is

2109
01:34:04,674 --> 01:34:07,314
Speaker 9: my sister's pile is always like fifty presents.

2110
01:34:09,394 --> 01:34:11,954
Speaker 7: Well, you're probably such a classic boy, and you're like,

2111
01:34:12,034 --> 01:34:14,274
Speaker 7: I don't want anything, don't get me anything, so that

2112
01:34:14,434 --> 01:34:16,274
Speaker 7: no one knows what to get you. And then it's

2113
01:34:16,354 --> 01:34:18,594
Speaker 7: like you have like a couple of random stuff and

2114
01:34:18,674 --> 01:34:21,594
Speaker 7: gift cards, but your sister is probably like, here's my

2115
01:34:21,634 --> 01:34:23,994
Speaker 7: Google list of everything I want.

2116
01:34:25,274 --> 01:34:27,634
Speaker 9: My sister gave her list like weeks ago. My mom's

2117
01:34:27,674 --> 01:34:29,754
Speaker 9: still asking for my list, and I'm like, mom, you

2118
01:34:29,794 --> 01:34:32,114
Speaker 9: put me through college, like you're good, Like thank you.

2119
01:34:32,194 --> 01:34:34,594
Speaker 5: So has anyone here asked for anything this year?

2120
01:34:34,874 --> 01:34:38,594
Speaker 7: Like, well, I was forced to. I tried to get

2121
01:34:38,594 --> 01:34:40,834
Speaker 7: around it, but then my mom was like, no, you

2122
01:34:40,954 --> 01:34:42,994
Speaker 7: need to help me. I'm really stressed out, and I

2123
01:34:43,034 --> 01:34:44,994
Speaker 7: thought she was going to have a breakdown, so I

2124
01:34:45,034 --> 01:34:46,634
Speaker 7: helped her vacuum.

2125
01:34:46,754 --> 01:34:48,434
Speaker 6: I asked for a C three po Lego set.

2126
01:34:49,274 --> 01:34:53,754
Speaker 5: Nice, okaysh out right? Yeah, yeah, you'll probably get it right.

2127
01:34:54,714 --> 01:34:56,794
Speaker 5: My mom likes matter C three po.

2128
01:34:56,874 --> 01:34:58,554
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's huge, it's nice?

2129
01:34:58,914 --> 01:35:00,274
Speaker 5: Is it nice? And gold too?

2130
01:35:00,354 --> 01:35:00,554
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2131
01:35:00,594 --> 01:35:05,114
Speaker 5: With the silver leg oh wow? Below the knee on

2132
01:35:04,994 --> 01:35:05,514
Speaker 5: one leg.

2133
01:35:05,834 --> 01:35:08,394
Speaker 7: Yeah, classic classic.

2134
01:35:08,514 --> 01:35:09,714
Speaker 6: Mike doesn't like it.

2135
01:35:09,794 --> 01:35:10,154
Speaker 11: I like it.

2136
01:35:10,234 --> 01:35:13,954
Speaker 10: I like it. I did ask for the Orca lego set.

2137
01:35:13,994 --> 01:35:15,714
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, it's kind of like tongue in cheek,

2138
01:35:15,714 --> 01:35:16,634
Speaker 10: but I kind of want it.

2139
01:35:16,674 --> 01:35:19,394
Speaker 11: But like, as an adult, get a lego. But it

2140
01:35:19,394 --> 01:35:20,314
Speaker 11: would be pretty.

2141
01:35:20,074 --> 01:35:23,274
Speaker 10: Cool up on my mantle somewhere if you get it.

2142
01:35:23,314 --> 01:35:25,034
Speaker 5: Do you know my wife would not allow me to

2143
01:35:25,074 --> 01:35:26,234
Speaker 5: put that on the mail if.

2144
01:35:26,314 --> 01:35:29,194
Speaker 6: If if you get it, you're not allowed like kids

2145
01:35:29,274 --> 01:35:29,554
Speaker 6: to help.

2146
01:35:29,674 --> 01:35:31,234
Speaker 11: Oh no, that's probably part of the deal.

2147
01:35:33,434 --> 01:35:34,554
Speaker 5: Part of the deal. I was like, you know, we

2148
01:35:34,594 --> 01:35:35,714
Speaker 5: could build it together.

2149
01:35:35,594 --> 01:35:36,954
Speaker 10: Be fun, but then I would keep it and put

2150
01:35:36,954 --> 01:35:37,234
Speaker 10: it in.

2151
01:35:39,034 --> 01:35:39,714
Speaker 9: But it's mine.

2152
01:35:40,154 --> 01:35:41,794
Speaker 10: I didn't get you playing with your toys again, Dad,

2153
01:35:41,994 --> 01:35:43,834
Speaker 10: like the Shark, we got Brodie.

2154
01:35:43,634 --> 01:35:49,514
Speaker 5: Run Boston Cream has some trivia. I want to do it, Okay,

2155
01:35:49,554 --> 01:35:52,714
Speaker 5: he said. First he says, it's incredibly hot and stump

2156
01:35:52,754 --> 01:35:54,354
Speaker 5: ball be fair. But here we go.

2157
01:35:55,154 --> 01:35:55,514
Speaker 8: Uh.

2158
01:35:55,594 --> 01:35:59,114
Speaker 5: The Patriots have drafted one linebacker higher than Girard Mao

2159
01:35:59,194 --> 01:36:00,994
Speaker 5: at tenth overall. Who was that player?

2160
01:36:01,274 --> 01:36:01,994
Speaker 6: Chris Singleton?

2161
01:36:02,274 --> 01:36:02,594
Speaker 5: Wow?

2162
01:36:02,754 --> 01:36:03,154
Speaker 12: Wow?

2163
01:36:03,554 --> 01:36:04,394
Speaker 5: For bonus?

2164
01:36:04,434 --> 01:36:06,954
Speaker 6: Do you know the year ninety one?

2165
01:36:07,314 --> 01:36:10,594
Speaker 5: Ninety six? No, No, that's wrong.

2166
01:36:10,634 --> 01:36:11,074
Speaker 6: That's wrong.

2167
01:36:11,194 --> 01:36:13,794
Speaker 10: Yeah, you'll call him Willie mack at D.

2168
01:36:14,114 --> 01:36:18,194
Speaker 7: I was fact check Boston Cream and.

2169
01:36:18,954 --> 01:36:20,994
Speaker 6: Chris Singleton is the answer. He was draft What year

2170
01:36:20,994 --> 01:36:21,874
Speaker 6: did they ninety one?

2171
01:36:21,954 --> 01:36:23,073
Speaker 5: Year did they draft Slade?

2172
01:36:23,634 --> 01:36:24,114
Speaker 6: Ninety three?

2173
01:36:24,314 --> 01:36:24,834
Speaker 5: Ninety three?

2174
01:36:24,954 --> 01:36:29,994
Speaker 9: Yeah, Chris Singleton was drafted in nineteen ninety with the

2175
01:36:29,994 --> 01:36:30,634
Speaker 9: eighth overall.

2176
01:36:30,754 --> 01:36:32,394
Speaker 5: So already, already we're off to a.

2177
01:36:32,474 --> 01:36:35,354
Speaker 6: Rough I knew it was in that Rod Ross, Dick

2178
01:36:35,474 --> 01:36:37,034
Speaker 6: McPherson really bad.

2179
01:36:37,034 --> 01:36:37,994
Speaker 11: I don't remember him at all.

2180
01:36:38,074 --> 01:36:40,594
Speaker 6: Singleton, Yeah, he just wasn't worthy of the top ten.

2181
01:36:41,554 --> 01:36:44,794
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones was the last player to be elected to

2182
01:36:44,914 --> 01:36:48,153
Speaker 5: first team All Pro. Who was the last player before him?

2183
01:36:48,314 --> 01:36:55,314
Speaker 5: Matthew Slater, that's correct, Gunnar Raschewsky, remember that league.

2184
01:36:56,674 --> 01:36:59,714
Speaker 6: Who was the last player that actually played a position?

2185
01:36:59,954 --> 01:37:03,434
Speaker 10: That was Tom bray Goes. That's crazy.

2186
01:37:04,354 --> 01:37:08,074
Speaker 5: Which Patriots draft pick from a football age? Many moons?

2187
01:37:08,114 --> 01:37:13,634
Speaker 5: Ago leads the Patriots in first Team All Pro nominations.

2188
01:37:15,874 --> 01:37:19,634
Speaker 9: Andre Tippett incorrect said many movies.

2189
01:37:20,234 --> 01:37:28,834
Speaker 5: John Hannah, No, you're not gonna get Ron mix.

2190
01:37:30,594 --> 01:37:32,354
Speaker 11: Yeah, nominated.

2191
01:37:33,994 --> 01:37:36,354
Speaker 5: Judging from the Chris Singleton this may be wrong, so

2192
01:37:36,394 --> 01:37:39,634
Speaker 5: I don't know. Finally, the full back position has certainly

2193
01:37:39,674 --> 01:37:42,994
Speaker 5: left its mark on American sports and culture history, but

2194
01:37:43,034 --> 01:37:47,714
Speaker 5: possibly no more than when this beer company blank included

2195
01:37:47,714 --> 01:37:52,674
Speaker 5: a player of such in their first ever commercial. Full

2196
01:37:52,754 --> 01:37:56,634
Speaker 5: back full back in their first ever commercial. Who would

2197
01:37:56,634 --> 01:37:58,234
Speaker 5: that full back be? I think I know, but.

2198
01:38:00,234 --> 01:38:00,634
Speaker 10: I don't know.

2199
01:38:00,994 --> 01:38:02,514
Speaker 5: Well, you should know that beer.

2200
01:38:02,314 --> 01:38:05,554
Speaker 6: Company Miller was the great last feeling.

2201
01:38:05,634 --> 01:38:08,754
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was Larry Zanka, wasn't it? Or Riggins?

2202
01:38:10,794 --> 01:38:12,674
Speaker 5: I don't know, would Riggins be No, he wouldn't be

2203
01:38:14,994 --> 01:38:19,714
Speaker 5: all kind of ye. So anyway, that's that.

2204
01:38:21,554 --> 01:38:23,554
Speaker 9: So I don't think Ron Mix actually ever played for

2205
01:38:23,594 --> 01:38:26,314
Speaker 9: the Patriots f y I so.

2206
01:38:28,314 --> 01:38:32,434
Speaker 5: Yeah, career, that's I don't know if we can think.

2207
01:38:32,234 --> 01:38:34,914
Speaker 9: He was drafted by the Patriots, but I think must

2208
01:38:34,914 --> 01:38:38,274
Speaker 9: have been traded and never because he doesn't have any

2209
01:38:38,274 --> 01:38:39,314
Speaker 9: stats with the Patriots.

2210
01:38:39,594 --> 01:38:40,914
Speaker 10: One who was he with?

2211
01:38:42,434 --> 01:38:43,994
Speaker 9: Mostly San Diego Diego?

2212
01:38:44,634 --> 01:38:48,594
Speaker 5: Yeah, driven Madrid wants to know how many shows we're

2213
01:38:48,594 --> 01:38:51,834
Speaker 5: going to be doing this week? Just today and Thursday

2214
01:38:52,114 --> 01:38:54,074
Speaker 5: to two shows?

2215
01:38:54,754 --> 01:38:56,994
Speaker 10: How do you manage the hurrying with two shows with picks?

2216
01:38:56,994 --> 01:39:00,074
Speaker 10: It's like hurry stopped, then you gotta hurry again. It's

2217
01:39:00,354 --> 01:39:00,874
Speaker 10: it's a lot.

2218
01:39:01,154 --> 01:39:04,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I'm just having fun.

2219
01:39:04,474 --> 01:39:05,194
Speaker 10: It's Christmas Eve.

2220
01:39:05,234 --> 01:39:07,274
Speaker 6: Come on, guys, I would be with you if I could.

2221
01:39:07,794 --> 01:39:11,634
Speaker 6: I all breathe.

2222
01:39:11,834 --> 01:39:12,234
Speaker 7: Allergic.

2223
01:39:12,994 --> 01:39:13,834
Speaker 9: I just keep them moving.

2224
01:39:13,834 --> 01:39:15,034
Speaker 11: I don't want to.

2225
01:39:16,714 --> 01:39:18,394
Speaker 6: Christmas. Christmas, take no offense.

2226
01:39:19,594 --> 01:39:21,074
Speaker 9: It's not because you smell. It's because you're sicking.

2227
01:39:21,114 --> 01:39:23,474
Speaker 10: My Christmas wish, my Christmas wish is that Paul can

2228
01:39:23,514 --> 01:39:25,634
Speaker 10: taste his food tonight. That's all. I hope that you

2229
01:39:25,634 --> 01:39:30,754
Speaker 10: can enjoy these wonderful meals tomorrow without all over everybody like.

2230
01:39:31,354 --> 01:39:31,754
Speaker 6: This is.

2231
01:39:33,234 --> 01:39:37,234
Speaker 9: The Seven Fishes, Paul, No, not anymore?

2232
01:39:37,114 --> 01:39:38,274
Speaker 7: Are you I even do that.

2233
01:39:38,474 --> 01:39:41,354
Speaker 6: I'm not a seafood guy. There will be lobster tonight

2234
01:39:41,554 --> 01:39:41,914
Speaker 6: at the.

2235
01:39:41,834 --> 01:39:44,394
Speaker 5: Table, but just not You don't like any seafood. Not

2236
01:39:44,434 --> 01:39:51,034
Speaker 5: really about tuna, like tuna, sandwich tuna or like no.

2237
01:39:51,234 --> 01:39:53,594
Speaker 6: Sandwich tuna for the most part. But I've had mahi

2238
01:39:53,674 --> 01:39:56,354
Speaker 6: mahi to that's not bad. Sword Fish isn't bad sword fishes.

2239
01:39:57,194 --> 01:39:58,314
Speaker 7: Fish is not very fishy.

2240
01:39:58,474 --> 01:40:00,154
Speaker 6: About fit yourself, that's a steak.

2241
01:40:00,194 --> 01:40:03,074
Speaker 5: I love. What about salmon? You like salmon? I don't

2242
01:40:03,074 --> 01:40:05,154
Speaker 5: know if I've ever had I think you'd like.

2243
01:40:05,554 --> 01:40:06,954
Speaker 6: So I'm not completely I'm not.

2244
01:40:07,074 --> 01:40:09,554
Speaker 7: Eric like the fishy, fishy taste.

2245
01:40:09,954 --> 01:40:11,674
Speaker 6: I'm not all out on seafood.

2246
01:40:12,034 --> 01:40:13,674
Speaker 5: I just about clam showder.

2247
01:40:14,074 --> 01:40:15,474
Speaker 6: I don't like Clama.

2248
01:40:18,434 --> 01:40:22,394
Speaker 5: I think I remember you having a shrimp sauce, not

2249
01:40:22,434 --> 01:40:24,834
Speaker 5: with a he just takes them.

2250
01:40:28,194 --> 01:40:30,674
Speaker 6: I'm with it because I really like you know, I

2251
01:40:30,714 --> 01:40:34,594
Speaker 6: like spicy food. Oh if I had that right now,

2252
01:40:34,674 --> 01:40:36,514
Speaker 6: I'd stop coughing. I'll guarantee it the whole.

2253
01:40:37,274 --> 01:40:42,834
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can't wait, Tim, our friend from Duncan Donuts,

2254
01:40:42,914 --> 01:40:46,994
Speaker 5: right since I emailed last week or a couple of

2255
01:40:46,994 --> 01:40:49,314
Speaker 5: weeks ago, and I said I thought the Patriots might

2256
01:40:49,354 --> 01:40:51,634
Speaker 5: be flat and not ready to play against the Cardinals.

2257
01:40:52,034 --> 01:40:55,154
Speaker 5: Unfortunately I was right. Speaking of the game, there was

2258
01:40:55,194 --> 01:40:58,514
Speaker 5: a large Patriot contingent, and we still seem to travel

2259
01:40:58,554 --> 01:41:01,314
Speaker 5: well to support the team. The perfect weather certainly doesn't hurt.

2260
01:41:01,594 --> 01:41:04,274
Speaker 5: I have another prediction for this week. I think they

2261
01:41:04,314 --> 01:41:07,514
Speaker 5: are going to put it together and win this weekend,

2262
01:41:07,874 --> 01:41:10,594
Speaker 5: something like twenty seven to seventeen. I know the Charger

2263
01:41:10,674 --> 01:41:13,354
Speaker 5: defense is much better than Buffalo's, but we are home

2264
01:41:13,474 --> 01:41:14,314
Speaker 5: on a short week.

2265
01:41:14,714 --> 01:41:16,074
Speaker 10: Do you think it'd be kind of a tough blow

2266
01:41:16,114 --> 01:41:18,994
Speaker 10: for the Chargers, you know, who were trying to you

2267
01:41:18,994 --> 01:41:21,314
Speaker 10: put you set it on our show, Paul of They're

2268
01:41:21,394 --> 01:41:24,113
Speaker 10: tougher you know, like they harbor brings this element of toughness.

2269
01:41:24,434 --> 01:41:25,994
Speaker 10: You know, I think it's a tough loss, like just

2270
01:41:27,114 --> 01:41:29,474
Speaker 10: pretending they came in and you know, they lost to

2271
01:41:29,474 --> 01:41:31,434
Speaker 10: the Patriots. Patriots kind of handled them a little bit.

2272
01:41:31,434 --> 01:41:32,674
Speaker 10: Do you think it's a little bit of a blow

2273
01:41:32,754 --> 01:41:35,194
Speaker 10: to that identity down the end where you go to

2274
01:41:35,234 --> 01:41:38,074
Speaker 10: a three win team and then you lose and everybody's

2275
01:41:38,074 --> 01:41:40,354
Speaker 10: saying like, yeah, that's the same old Chargers. They can't

2276
01:41:40,394 --> 01:41:41,874
Speaker 10: go play. It gets a little cold, you know, they

2277
01:41:41,914 --> 01:41:43,874
Speaker 10: don't maybe they don't quite have that identity.

2278
01:41:44,954 --> 01:41:46,674
Speaker 6: What will happen now? I'll say this, they have the

2279
01:41:46,754 --> 01:41:48,554
Speaker 6: identity of being a tough team, but they don't run

2280
01:41:48,594 --> 01:41:50,594
Speaker 6: the ball well. They want to run the ball and

2281
01:41:50,634 --> 01:41:55,074
Speaker 6: be physical, and they just don't do it well. Defensively,

2282
01:41:55,674 --> 01:41:58,154
Speaker 6: They're been very good most of the year, but they

2283
01:41:58,154 --> 01:42:00,954
Speaker 6: don't seem to be playing very well right now. So

2284
01:42:01,034 --> 01:42:02,794
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's sort of people have figured

2285
01:42:02,834 --> 01:42:04,514
Speaker 6: out a little bit. I don't know.

2286
01:42:04,754 --> 01:42:07,154
Speaker 9: The toughness thing is weird to me because I agree

2287
01:42:07,194 --> 01:42:09,554
Speaker 9: with you. I don't like watch them and think that,

2288
01:42:09,834 --> 01:42:13,834
Speaker 9: oh this is this is a tough, physical, run down

2289
01:42:13,874 --> 01:42:17,914
Speaker 9: your throat football team. They certainly cost playing it. Stylistically,

2290
01:42:17,954 --> 01:42:19,354
Speaker 9: they want to be that, you know, they have the

2291
01:42:20,514 --> 01:42:22,914
Speaker 9: two tackles, they have the full back that you know,

2292
01:42:22,994 --> 01:42:25,194
Speaker 9: plays both sides of the ball, and like, you know,

2293
01:42:25,274 --> 01:42:27,634
Speaker 9: they have guys that can do that sort of thing

2294
01:42:27,674 --> 01:42:30,074
Speaker 9: and they have bigger backs. But like it's I don't know,

2295
01:42:30,114 --> 01:42:32,754
Speaker 9: there's still Herbert, Like it's still a passing offense, you know,

2296
01:42:32,954 --> 01:42:35,314
Speaker 9: and that sort of thing. So I am, I don't know.

2297
01:42:35,354 --> 01:42:36,914
Speaker 9: That might just be a Jim Harbough thing.

2298
01:42:37,154 --> 01:42:37,314
Speaker 17: Yea.

2299
01:42:37,794 --> 01:42:39,714
Speaker 6: Why is like the fact that it's a short week,

2300
01:42:39,714 --> 01:42:41,034
Speaker 6: Why does that helped the Patriots.

2301
01:42:41,394 --> 01:42:43,754
Speaker 5: Well, it's even shorter for them because they have to travel.

2302
01:42:43,514 --> 01:42:46,954
Speaker 6: But it's not a short week for them. It's a

2303
01:42:46,954 --> 01:42:48,114
Speaker 6: short week for the Patriot.

2304
01:42:47,834 --> 01:42:49,834
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, they had Thursday.

2305
01:42:51,234 --> 01:42:53,834
Speaker 6: Maybe that's what he was Maybe I missed that, Okay, yeah,

2306
01:42:53,874 --> 01:42:55,514
Speaker 6: maybe that's what he was thinking, is it's a short

2307
01:42:55,554 --> 01:42:57,754
Speaker 6: week for the Chargers. I thought he was saying it's

2308
01:42:57,754 --> 01:42:59,914
Speaker 6: a short week for the Patriots and that was an advantage.

2309
01:42:59,954 --> 01:43:02,074
Speaker 6: But you're probably right. Yeah, he probably forgot that they

2310
01:43:02,114 --> 01:43:03,754
Speaker 6: played on Thursday. Right, My bad.

2311
01:43:05,234 --> 01:43:08,674
Speaker 5: Let's see Anthony and Seattle. I just wanted to wish

2312
01:43:08,674 --> 01:43:11,954
Speaker 5: you all very Merry Christmas. Also, I'm not listening live,

2313
01:43:11,994 --> 01:43:14,234
Speaker 5: so apologies that this has already been discussed, but I'd

2314
01:43:14,274 --> 01:43:17,994
Speaker 5: like to know if Evan saw in his film review

2315
01:43:17,994 --> 01:43:20,394
Speaker 5: that it looked like the Bills had an absolute precise

2316
01:43:20,474 --> 01:43:22,954
Speaker 5: read on our snap count, because I noticed it live

2317
01:43:23,474 --> 01:43:25,834
Speaker 5: and I couldn't believe how well they were tied it up.

2318
01:43:26,634 --> 01:43:29,194
Speaker 5: Perhaps they were, they dumped it down to help out

2319
01:43:29,194 --> 01:43:32,114
Speaker 5: our offensive line avoid penalties, but on the flip side,

2320
01:43:32,154 --> 01:43:34,634
Speaker 5: it made it very easy for the opposing defense to

2321
01:43:34,714 --> 01:43:35,754
Speaker 5: time up the cadence.

2322
01:43:36,594 --> 01:43:38,794
Speaker 9: I did not notice that. I just think von Miller

2323
01:43:38,874 --> 01:43:41,794
Speaker 9: is a lot better than Trey Jacobs. Like, I don't

2324
01:43:41,834 --> 01:43:44,234
Speaker 9: think that it was happening really on the other side.

2325
01:43:44,394 --> 01:43:46,034
Speaker 9: Like Vederian, though had a pretty good.

2326
01:43:45,954 --> 01:43:47,674
Speaker 6: Game in this he was definitely better than he was.

2327
01:43:48,234 --> 01:43:50,314
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was pretty quiet in this game. He only

2328
01:43:50,354 --> 01:43:53,994
Speaker 9: allowed one pressure. Really, the entire offensive line was fined

2329
01:43:54,034 --> 01:43:56,674
Speaker 9: outside of Trey Jacobs in pass protection. I mean they

2330
01:43:56,674 --> 01:43:58,354
Speaker 9: got him on some of the blitzes and things like

2331
01:43:58,394 --> 01:44:01,594
Speaker 9: that late, but no, I just think von Miller was

2332
01:44:01,754 --> 01:44:06,674
Speaker 9: just giving Trey Jacobs the Yeah, yeah, I don't think

2333
01:44:06,714 --> 01:44:07,954
Speaker 9: it was like a snap count thing.

2334
01:44:07,994 --> 01:44:10,034
Speaker 5: No, Can I ask you a question because you grinded

2335
01:44:10,034 --> 01:44:13,834
Speaker 5: the film and you know, the ball. Maybe I I

2336
01:44:13,874 --> 01:44:16,394
Speaker 5: screwed up on the blog because on the play that

2337
01:44:17,874 --> 01:44:21,554
Speaker 5: where the ball went off Remandre's hands and they recovered

2338
01:44:21,594 --> 01:44:23,394
Speaker 5: in the end zone, I said, oh, that was all

2339
01:44:23,434 --> 01:44:26,554
Speaker 5: on Ramondre. I didn't really look at it closely. Yeah,

2340
01:44:26,594 --> 01:44:29,114
Speaker 5: but I was reprimanded by saying, no, it was a

2341
01:44:29,194 --> 01:44:32,234
Speaker 5: terrible play call. There was a guy bearing down on him,

2342
01:44:32,234 --> 01:44:34,954
Speaker 5: which I know of what did you see in that play?

2343
01:44:35,074 --> 01:44:38,394
Speaker 5: Was it like was it meant to be a lateral pass?

2344
01:44:38,474 --> 01:44:40,194
Speaker 5: I don't think it was, like what was.

2345
01:44:40,274 --> 01:44:43,154
Speaker 9: Not one hundred percent though? So really I would say

2346
01:44:43,154 --> 01:44:45,434
Speaker 9: the biggest thing was that Trey Jacobs missed the cut block.

2347
01:44:45,874 --> 01:44:49,194
Speaker 9: So Trey Jacobs is supposed to cut russo there get

2348
01:44:49,234 --> 01:44:52,194
Speaker 9: him on the ground. So there that way Whemandra can

2349
01:44:52,434 --> 01:44:54,754
Speaker 9: swing you know, up the field so that the past

2350
01:44:54,834 --> 01:44:57,794
Speaker 9: then becomes a forward pass on the screen. And they

2351
01:44:57,834 --> 01:44:59,874
Speaker 9: actually had numbers on the screen too, and it was

2352
01:44:59,914 --> 01:45:02,594
Speaker 9: probably going to be a decent gain if they had

2353
01:45:02,634 --> 01:45:05,034
Speaker 9: completed the throw. I would say, out of the three

2354
01:45:05,074 --> 01:45:08,514
Speaker 9: guys that you know were responsible, you know, Drake, Trey

2355
01:45:08,594 --> 01:45:11,114
Speaker 9: Jacobs and Rimandra Vermandra would probably be at the bottom

2356
01:45:11,114 --> 01:45:13,634
Speaker 9: of those three just because he gets hit in the

2357
01:45:13,714 --> 01:45:16,114
Speaker 9: face with like a missile from Drake from like five

2358
01:45:16,194 --> 01:45:18,474
Speaker 9: yards away, and then there's a guy that just comes

2359
01:45:18,474 --> 01:45:20,514
Speaker 9: in and clocks him right away. I don't really know

2360
01:45:20,834 --> 01:45:24,274
Speaker 9: what else he could have necessarily done with Drake. I mean,

2361
01:45:24,634 --> 01:45:27,834
Speaker 9: maybe you see that and throw that one away, you know,

2362
01:45:27,874 --> 01:45:30,594
Speaker 9: I think that's that's possible. But it is a quick hitting,

2363
01:45:30,994 --> 01:45:33,314
Speaker 9: you know, to catch the ball throw the type of play.

2364
01:45:33,434 --> 01:45:36,994
Speaker 5: People that on the blog they were they were blaming

2365
01:45:37,594 --> 01:45:41,154
Speaker 5: Drake for not seeing the guy bearing down and you know,

2366
01:45:41,194 --> 01:45:45,114
Speaker 5: eating the ball or away and a VP because it

2367
01:45:45,154 --> 01:45:47,794
Speaker 5: was They thought it was a terrible play call in

2368
01:45:47,794 --> 01:45:48,514
Speaker 5: that situation.

2369
01:45:48,674 --> 01:45:50,754
Speaker 9: It's a little risky given the fact that you're backed

2370
01:45:50,834 --> 01:45:54,434
Speaker 9: up like that to throw a screen even at best,

2371
01:45:54,434 --> 01:45:57,874
Speaker 9: you're really throwing it like laterally that's the wrong word,

2372
01:45:58,074 --> 01:46:00,794
Speaker 9: like horizontally towards the line of scrimmage, right, so like

2373
01:46:00,834 --> 01:46:04,354
Speaker 9: you're flirting with it being a backward pass to begin with.

2374
01:46:04,434 --> 01:46:07,274
Speaker 5: If the cut block is made, is it, is it

2375
01:46:07,554 --> 01:46:08,874
Speaker 5: less risky?

2376
01:46:09,034 --> 01:46:12,554
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the whole that's really the set. The center

2377
01:46:12,634 --> 01:46:14,874
Speaker 9: of the play is that you got to cut the

2378
01:46:15,034 --> 01:46:17,474
Speaker 9: end there, get him down on the ground. Get his

2379
01:46:17,554 --> 01:46:19,874
Speaker 9: hands out of the passing lane, and then you and

2380
01:46:19,914 --> 01:46:22,314
Speaker 9: then you have that open passing lane and that you

2381
01:46:22,354 --> 01:46:24,874
Speaker 9: know for for Drake, like that all happens and within

2382
01:46:24,954 --> 01:46:26,154
Speaker 9: second of each other.

2383
01:46:26,194 --> 01:46:29,474
Speaker 5: It doesn't look like if if you know, aside from

2384
01:46:29,474 --> 01:46:32,354
Speaker 5: that one defender, like, did he have room to run?

2385
01:46:32,514 --> 01:46:32,714
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2386
01:46:32,714 --> 01:46:34,594
Speaker 9: I thought so. I mean, you never know how the

2387
01:46:34,634 --> 01:46:36,834
Speaker 9: blocks were actually going to develop once the balls in

2388
01:46:36,834 --> 01:46:39,154
Speaker 9: the in the receiver's hands. But I thought they had

2389
01:46:39,154 --> 01:46:41,234
Speaker 9: it set up pretty nicely. And it's a plane that

2390
01:46:41,354 --> 01:46:43,714
Speaker 9: Da've run a dozen times this year, you know, like

2391
01:46:43,754 --> 01:46:46,674
Speaker 9: it's a stable screen concept of theirs out of that

2392
01:46:46,674 --> 01:46:49,474
Speaker 9: that pony package, you know, the two running backs. But

2393
01:46:50,154 --> 01:46:53,554
Speaker 9: it just it probably wasn't the right area of the

2394
01:46:53,554 --> 01:46:56,354
Speaker 9: field to call it. I would agree that with that.

2395
01:46:56,474 --> 01:46:59,114
Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, the execution is is.

2396
01:46:59,074 --> 01:47:01,114
Speaker 10: Mostly Brian Hoyer had a good little bit on I

2397
01:47:01,114 --> 01:47:02,794
Speaker 10: don't know if you guys caught it on social media

2398
01:47:02,954 --> 01:47:05,274
Speaker 10: one of his shows. Got a bunch Now. He put

2399
01:47:05,274 --> 01:47:06,434
Speaker 10: it on Drake. He put it on Drake.

2400
01:47:06,554 --> 01:47:08,554
Speaker 6: It was all on Drake. There's no way that ball

2401
01:47:08,594 --> 01:47:10,714
Speaker 6: is supposed to go backwards under any circumstance.

2402
01:47:10,714 --> 01:47:13,154
Speaker 5: Well, did you think it went backwards because he was rushed.

2403
01:47:13,954 --> 01:47:16,154
Speaker 9: No, it went backwards because the end was in the

2404
01:47:16,194 --> 01:47:18,874
Speaker 9: passing lane, you know, so he couldn't.

2405
01:47:19,114 --> 01:47:23,474
Speaker 6: But I just I think I went backwards.

2406
01:47:23,674 --> 01:47:26,874
Speaker 9: Okay, I guess I could see where how is coming

2407
01:47:26,874 --> 01:47:29,554
Speaker 9: from in terms of you know, you could decide not

2408
01:47:29,634 --> 01:47:31,314
Speaker 9: to throw it right, like when you see that the

2409
01:47:31,434 --> 01:47:34,754
Speaker 9: end is he doesn't get cut. But now you can't

2410
01:47:34,794 --> 01:47:37,114
Speaker 9: put it at his feet because it's a backwards.

2411
01:47:36,634 --> 01:47:38,594
Speaker 6: Pet but you put it forward at his feet like

2412
01:47:38,634 --> 01:47:39,194
Speaker 6: that's right.

2413
01:47:39,194 --> 01:47:41,074
Speaker 9: But he couldn't there though.

2414
01:47:41,274 --> 01:47:44,674
Speaker 6: His feet were all off. His footwork was bad, he

2415
01:47:44,714 --> 01:47:48,274
Speaker 6: said on that play, and he did talk about the

2416
01:47:48,274 --> 01:47:50,354
Speaker 6: the Rousseau part of it, and he did say because

2417
01:47:50,394 --> 01:47:52,434
Speaker 6: it might have been a forty yard game. Now, where

2418
01:47:52,434 --> 01:47:57,994
Speaker 6: did Taron Johnson come from? He was supposed to get cut,

2419
01:47:58,034 --> 01:47:59,634
Speaker 6: but Taron Johnson was in there in a plank.

2420
01:48:00,194 --> 01:48:02,634
Speaker 9: He was there was a block set up on the

2421
01:48:02,674 --> 01:48:05,594
Speaker 9: sideline there. He's you know, obviously playing the nickel and

2422
01:48:05,594 --> 01:48:09,314
Speaker 9: they had a blocker on him. But once the ball

2423
01:48:09,394 --> 01:48:11,034
Speaker 9: hit the ground, he believed.

2424
01:48:11,034 --> 01:48:13,514
Speaker 6: You guys, notice like you know, the recovery in the

2425
01:48:13,594 --> 01:48:18,754
Speaker 6: end zone, like we're so like when like after the

2426
01:48:18,794 --> 01:48:20,634
Speaker 6: ball and he kind of like slipped and he fell

2427
01:48:20,714 --> 01:48:24,674
Speaker 6: and like it was like where Evans like, uh, you know, Coster.

2428
01:48:25,354 --> 01:48:27,594
Speaker 6: It was like it's like you couldn't get it. It's

2429
01:48:27,634 --> 01:48:31,234
Speaker 6: like and I joked, it was like, you know, I

2430
01:48:31,274 --> 01:48:33,194
Speaker 6: said to do start. It's like when you have that

2431
01:48:33,314 --> 01:48:35,554
Speaker 6: dream and you can't run right, Like you couldn't get

2432
01:48:35,594 --> 01:48:37,194
Speaker 6: the ball. I just couldn't get there.

2433
01:48:37,314 --> 01:48:39,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny playing there.

2434
01:48:39,634 --> 01:48:43,114
Speaker 9: Forever, horrible horrible football play all around.

2435
01:48:43,514 --> 01:48:46,394
Speaker 5: Kevin writes in appreciate the you guys for the top

2436
01:48:46,434 --> 01:48:49,674
Speaker 5: tier content you put out. My question is about Jahem Bell.

2437
01:48:50,434 --> 01:48:52,314
Speaker 5: How has he looked over the course of the season

2438
01:48:52,354 --> 01:48:55,114
Speaker 5: in practice and you think he could be a contributor

2439
01:48:55,194 --> 01:48:56,434
Speaker 5: next season. We don't get to.

2440
01:48:56,394 --> 01:48:59,834
Speaker 11: Really magic practice. No, I don't know, no idea that

2441
01:48:59,994 --> 01:49:00,194
Speaker 11: you know.

2442
01:49:00,274 --> 01:49:02,954
Speaker 5: That is a disadvantage that we have, not just us

2443
01:49:02,994 --> 01:49:05,754
Speaker 5: all the media. Other than training camp. We don't get

2444
01:49:05,794 --> 01:49:08,754
Speaker 5: to watch practice. I mean, Evan comes back from practice,

2445
01:49:08,754 --> 01:49:11,754
Speaker 5: but all these season is them stretching in maybe one

2446
01:49:12,074 --> 01:49:12,674
Speaker 5: unit drill.

2447
01:49:13,274 --> 01:49:15,874
Speaker 9: I feel like that's a common misconception. Like I get

2448
01:49:15,874 --> 01:49:18,994
Speaker 9: a lot of of replies on the on the X

2449
01:49:19,074 --> 01:49:20,834
Speaker 9: machine of like, oh, how does so and so look

2450
01:49:20,874 --> 01:49:24,554
Speaker 9: at practice? Like your guess is as good as mind playing.

2451
01:49:24,274 --> 01:49:26,714
Speaker 6: With that particular pay or he missed a good chunker

2452
01:49:26,754 --> 01:49:29,794
Speaker 6: camp yep. So we didn't even get a chance to

2453
01:49:29,794 --> 01:49:31,834
Speaker 6: see him every day, you know, in that setting.

2454
01:49:31,874 --> 01:49:33,714
Speaker 10: But he's just they've been sprinkling him in. I mean,

2455
01:49:33,754 --> 01:49:34,754
Speaker 10: it's it's like, oh, there he is.

2456
01:49:34,834 --> 01:49:36,074
Speaker 6: I haven't really seen anything.

2457
01:49:37,474 --> 01:49:39,314
Speaker 9: They keep on trying to hit him on the slide

2458
01:49:39,354 --> 01:49:41,754
Speaker 9: route off the bootleg, like you know, the route at

2459
01:49:41,794 --> 01:49:44,194
Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage that goes across, and they just

2460
01:49:44,274 --> 01:49:46,434
Speaker 9: they can't run those bootlegs, man Like, they just can't

2461
01:49:46,434 --> 01:49:48,754
Speaker 9: get them off, and they just never look right. They

2462
01:49:48,794 --> 01:49:51,194
Speaker 9: never look clean. And you know, he's supposed to have

2463
01:49:51,274 --> 01:49:53,234
Speaker 9: like the flat to himself and have like all this

2464
01:49:53,314 --> 01:49:55,834
Speaker 9: space out there to to you know, just catch the

2465
01:49:55,834 --> 01:49:57,554
Speaker 9: ball and make a play with it, and they just

2466
01:49:57,634 --> 01:49:59,314
Speaker 9: they never seem to be able to get it going.

2467
01:50:00,314 --> 01:50:03,674
Speaker 5: All right, about ten minutes left, so just to make

2468
01:50:03,674 --> 01:50:07,434
Speaker 5: sure that we have enough time, we'll we'll get into

2469
01:50:09,034 --> 01:50:10,954
Speaker 5: should we do what happened last week? Or should I

2470
01:50:10,994 --> 01:50:12,554
Speaker 5: didn't I don't have all right, we'll wait for that

2471
01:50:12,594 --> 01:50:18,434
Speaker 5: for Thursday. Paul hasn't done that yet, so we will go.

2472
01:50:18,674 --> 01:50:22,474
Speaker 6: Another good week for everybody, though, especially me, right, I

2473
01:50:22,474 --> 01:50:22,794
Speaker 6: don't know.

2474
01:50:23,874 --> 01:50:27,794
Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine. So tomorrow there's two games on Christmas.

2475
01:50:27,874 --> 01:50:32,354
Speaker 5: They're on Netflix. If anyone uh doesn't know that already.

2476
01:50:33,354 --> 01:50:36,994
Speaker 5: The first one starts at one o'clock. So let me

2477
01:50:36,994 --> 01:50:38,794
Speaker 5: ask you a question before we get into the pics.

2478
01:50:38,794 --> 01:50:43,514
Speaker 5: At one o'clock in your houses, everything opened, all the

2479
01:50:43,674 --> 01:50:44,874
Speaker 5: presents opened by then.

2480
01:50:44,874 --> 01:50:46,114
Speaker 11: Fred, I'm totally with you.

2481
01:50:46,114 --> 01:50:46,834
Speaker 10: I'm totally with you.

2482
01:50:47,074 --> 01:50:50,474
Speaker 6: I stepped out. I would co sign on everybody one

2483
01:50:50,514 --> 01:50:50,954
Speaker 6: at a time.

2484
01:50:51,034 --> 01:50:53,514
Speaker 10: Yeah, thank yeah, yeah, dead dead period in the day.

2485
01:50:53,594 --> 01:50:55,114
Speaker 10: I'm ready to Just what am I doing now? The

2486
01:50:55,154 --> 01:50:57,034
Speaker 10: kids are playing with their toys. You're kind of eating,

2487
01:50:57,114 --> 01:50:58,954
Speaker 10: You're like Christmas is kind of I'm with you.

2488
01:50:58,994 --> 01:51:01,994
Speaker 6: I okay, what time are you eating at one o'clock?

2489
01:51:02,074 --> 01:51:03,914
Speaker 10: No no, no, no, no no no. We'll eat that like

2490
01:51:03,994 --> 01:51:06,274
Speaker 10: later at night. But you've had you've had your big

2491
01:51:06,314 --> 01:51:08,674
Speaker 10: breakfast though. We don't really eat lunch. It's something in

2492
01:51:08,714 --> 01:51:09,314
Speaker 10: the middle of the day.

2493
01:51:10,074 --> 01:51:10,634
Speaker 6: Jesus house.

2494
01:51:10,754 --> 01:51:12,194
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't care for this.

2495
01:51:12,594 --> 01:51:13,874
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, breakfast, big deal.

2496
01:51:13,914 --> 01:51:16,514
Speaker 5: We do my stockings breakfast and my wife makes a

2497
01:51:16,674 --> 01:51:21,274
Speaker 5: monkey monkey monkey bread. Yeah, that's very good.

2498
01:51:21,754 --> 01:51:25,073
Speaker 9: I could be watching the Celtics look for basketball cre

2499
01:51:25,514 --> 01:51:26,954
Speaker 9: Yeah at five.

2500
01:51:26,994 --> 01:51:30,354
Speaker 5: At five, So this game's at one on Netflix. It's

2501
01:51:30,434 --> 01:51:34,794
Speaker 5: the fourteen and one Chiefs at the ten and five Steelers.

2502
01:51:35,594 --> 01:51:36,994
Speaker 6: Kansas City by three.

2503
01:51:39,194 --> 01:51:41,674
Speaker 10: Well, last week I'd gone with Kansas City like all year,

2504
01:51:41,714 --> 01:51:43,434
Speaker 10: and then like I slowed then, like the first time

2505
01:51:43,474 --> 01:51:45,154
Speaker 10: I didn't take the points for them.

2506
01:51:45,394 --> 01:51:47,194
Speaker 11: They that's when they of course did cover.

2507
01:51:47,674 --> 01:51:49,474
Speaker 10: And then last week I went against them, and then

2508
01:51:49,514 --> 01:51:51,194
Speaker 10: of course they won and we mean and Paul talked

2509
01:51:51,194 --> 01:51:54,914
Speaker 10: a little about Houston's just complete meltdown after Tank Dell's

2510
01:51:54,994 --> 01:51:57,994
Speaker 10: unfortunate and horrific injury. So I got to get back

2511
01:51:58,034 --> 01:51:59,834
Speaker 10: on the bandwagon. I'm going to go right back to

2512
01:51:59,874 --> 01:52:03,754
Speaker 10: the Chiefs. I also think the Steelers are tapering off.

2513
01:52:03,794 --> 01:52:05,714
Speaker 10: I do like what they're you know, just what Mike

2514
01:52:05,714 --> 01:52:07,114
Speaker 10: Tom was pulled out of that team this year. But

2515
01:52:07,114 --> 01:52:09,754
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go see Kansas City lay the points.

2516
01:52:10,194 --> 01:52:13,954
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chiefs on Christmas hard to pick against them. I'll

2517
01:52:13,994 --> 01:52:15,074
Speaker 7: take them to cover as well.

2518
01:52:16,794 --> 01:52:19,994
Speaker 9: Yeah, I keep on waiting for the Chiefs to lose again.

2519
01:52:20,274 --> 01:52:23,234
Speaker 9: It just doesn't happen. I guess I do wonder at

2520
01:52:23,234 --> 01:52:25,514
Speaker 9: what point, though, they start to kind of cut it

2521
01:52:25,514 --> 01:52:28,154
Speaker 9: down a little bit for the playoffs, but I'll pick

2522
01:52:28,194 --> 01:52:31,394
Speaker 9: Kansas City in this game both ways. I think that

2523
01:52:31,434 --> 01:52:32,674
Speaker 9: they're still rolling.

2524
01:52:34,234 --> 01:52:36,554
Speaker 6: I'm going to take the Steelers. They've lost a couple

2525
01:52:36,554 --> 01:52:39,794
Speaker 6: in a row. They need the game more than Kansas

2526
01:52:39,834 --> 01:52:45,714
Speaker 6: City does. They're at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh can still win the division,

2527
01:52:45,754 --> 01:52:49,434
Speaker 6: which I think is a huge difference being at home,

2528
01:52:50,034 --> 01:52:52,194
Speaker 6: so I think that they get back on track. I

2529
01:52:52,194 --> 01:52:54,114
Speaker 6: don't think Pittsburgh is all that good. I don't think

2530
01:52:54,114 --> 01:52:57,034
Speaker 6: they're one of the contenders with the Chiefs, the Ravens,

2531
01:52:57,034 --> 01:52:59,594
Speaker 6: and the Bills, but I think they win this one.

2532
01:53:00,114 --> 01:53:01,634
Speaker 6: I don't think they would beat Kansas City in a

2533
01:53:01,634 --> 01:53:02,994
Speaker 6: playoff game, let's put it that way.

2534
01:53:03,354 --> 01:53:05,594
Speaker 5: I was all ready to say, Evan, your weight is

2535
01:53:05,634 --> 01:53:09,114
Speaker 5: over because the Steelers are going to win this game.

2536
01:53:10,154 --> 01:53:12,594
Speaker 5: And Paul, this is this is I'm glad you made

2537
01:53:12,634 --> 01:53:14,394
Speaker 5: this pick because this is what it means to have

2538
01:53:14,434 --> 01:53:18,034
Speaker 5: a feeling for the league. This is a perfect game.

2539
01:53:18,194 --> 01:53:18,994
Speaker 6: It's high praise.

2540
01:53:19,154 --> 01:53:21,434
Speaker 5: This is this is a perfect game to demonstrate those

2541
01:53:21,434 --> 01:53:22,954
Speaker 5: who have a feeling for the league.

2542
01:53:24,154 --> 01:53:25,234
Speaker 6: That's really high.

2543
01:53:25,794 --> 01:53:30,874
Speaker 10: That's quite a you guys made up Christmas miracle.

2544
01:53:31,234 --> 01:53:34,594
Speaker 6: I'm a little taken everyone.

2545
01:53:35,034 --> 01:53:39,314
Speaker 5: When the Steelers win this game. Folks don't understand what

2546
01:53:39,354 --> 01:53:45,554
Speaker 5: a feeling the league means. So all right, but the

2547
01:53:45,594 --> 01:53:49,194
Speaker 5: next game is at four thirty. It's on Netflix as well.

2548
01:53:49,754 --> 01:53:52,434
Speaker 5: The ten and five Ravens are at the nine and

2549
01:53:52,594 --> 01:53:56,194
Speaker 5: six Texans. I hope c J. Stroud is okay.

2550
01:53:57,474 --> 01:53:59,834
Speaker 6: I'm really I'm really not happy with that he felt

2551
01:53:59,834 --> 01:54:02,714
Speaker 6: for his guy, like the amount of like static, this

2552
01:54:02,834 --> 01:54:05,034
Speaker 6: poor guy is taken because he was emotional.

2553
01:54:05,194 --> 01:54:07,514
Speaker 5: Well, it was a little bit much, don't you think

2554
01:54:08,674 --> 01:54:10,954
Speaker 5: I was? I was. I mean I watched it live

2555
01:54:11,554 --> 01:54:13,714
Speaker 5: and I was just like, I like to guys.

2556
01:54:13,434 --> 01:54:16,594
Speaker 6: They care about me, Like like I like Drake May's

2557
01:54:16,594 --> 01:54:19,554
Speaker 6: reaction on the hospital ball to the Austin. Okay, I

2558
01:54:19,634 --> 01:54:22,113
Speaker 6: like that, but I like that the guys are affected

2559
01:54:22,114 --> 01:54:23,434
Speaker 6: by guys that took big shots.

2560
01:54:23,474 --> 01:54:26,073
Speaker 5: I know, but guys have got hurt a lot of status.

2561
01:54:26,074 --> 01:54:27,354
Speaker 6: C J has taken over.

2562
01:54:27,434 --> 01:54:29,474
Speaker 5: I thought I was a little bit taken.

2563
01:54:29,474 --> 01:54:33,474
Speaker 9: Aback literally looked like.

2564
01:54:35,114 --> 01:54:37,114
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was like going the wrong way.

2565
01:54:37,274 --> 01:54:38,114
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2566
01:54:38,194 --> 01:54:40,394
Speaker 6: Baltimore, Baltimore by five and.

2567
01:54:40,394 --> 01:54:44,154
Speaker 10: A half, Baltimore by five and a half. Yeah, that's

2568
01:54:44,154 --> 01:54:46,634
Speaker 10: I'm gonna I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna take Baltimore.

2569
01:54:46,834 --> 01:54:49,274
Speaker 10: I think they got that Pittsburgh monkey off their their back.

2570
01:54:49,314 --> 01:54:52,074
Speaker 10: They feel pretty good. Uh, I'm gonna take Baltimore win

2571
01:54:52,074 --> 01:54:52,394
Speaker 10: this one.

2572
01:54:52,954 --> 01:54:54,354
Speaker 7: Raven's on the road.

2573
01:54:55,554 --> 01:54:58,514
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna take Baltimore too. I think Baltimore is

2574
01:54:58,554 --> 01:55:00,594
Speaker 9: really good. I know that they they've had some slip

2575
01:55:00,674 --> 01:55:03,114
Speaker 9: ups here and there this season, but I still feel

2576
01:55:03,114 --> 01:55:06,794
Speaker 9: like they're They're in that upper edchelon of the AFC

2577
01:55:07,114 --> 01:55:08,834
Speaker 9: with Kansas City and Buffalo.

2578
01:55:09,154 --> 01:55:12,794
Speaker 6: I hardly wholeheartedly agree. I think they are every bit

2579
01:55:12,874 --> 01:55:16,074
Speaker 6: the contender that Kansas City and Buffalo are in the AFC.

2580
01:55:16,914 --> 01:55:18,914
Speaker 6: The defense is starting to play a little bit better

2581
01:55:19,114 --> 01:55:21,314
Speaker 6: watching their game last week. A lot of talk about

2582
01:55:21,394 --> 01:55:24,674
Speaker 6: Kyle Hamilton changing back to what traditional safety role has

2583
01:55:24,714 --> 01:55:27,914
Speaker 6: made a huge difference for them. So I'll take the

2584
01:55:27,994 --> 01:55:29,994
Speaker 6: Ravens to win. I will take the points though five

2585
01:55:30,034 --> 01:55:31,034
Speaker 6: and a half at home.

2586
01:55:31,074 --> 01:55:34,354
Speaker 5: Paul lockstep again. I'm gonna take the Ravens all the

2587
01:55:34,394 --> 01:55:36,554
Speaker 5: reasons you guys said. I think the Ravens have figured

2588
01:55:36,594 --> 01:55:40,194
Speaker 5: it out and I think they're ready to contend. Uh,

2589
01:55:40,754 --> 01:55:44,314
Speaker 5: So I want them. I have them winning. But I

2590
01:55:44,394 --> 01:55:46,754
Speaker 5: see the Texans, you know, obviously putting up a fight

2591
01:55:46,834 --> 01:55:50,474
Speaker 5: at home. So I'm gonna split the baby, as they say,

2592
01:55:50,594 --> 01:55:52,634
Speaker 5: and I will take those points. So those are the

2593
01:55:52,714 --> 01:55:55,274
Speaker 5: two games scheduled for Christmas.

2594
01:55:55,394 --> 01:55:56,874
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean when I said that were me and

2595
01:55:56,954 --> 01:55:59,474
Speaker 10: Paul were catching up about those games last week with

2596
01:55:59,634 --> 01:56:01,954
Speaker 10: the Texans, and like, after that injury, it just felt

2597
01:56:01,954 --> 01:56:04,274
Speaker 10: like any momentum, any kind of chance that they had and.

2598
01:56:04,554 --> 01:56:06,914
Speaker 6: Houston was gonna win that game. If that was just

2599
01:56:06,954 --> 01:56:09,514
Speaker 6: a regular touchdown and nothing happened to Tank Dell, I

2600
01:56:09,554 --> 01:56:11,834
Speaker 6: think they were playing better than Kansas City to that point,

2601
01:56:12,314 --> 01:56:14,274
Speaker 6: and for the rest of the game, Kansas City controlled.

2602
01:56:14,274 --> 01:56:15,554
Speaker 10: You could just I mean, I haven't watched a ton

2603
01:56:15,594 --> 01:56:17,594
Speaker 10: of Houston this year since the Patriots played him, but

2604
01:56:17,594 --> 01:56:19,474
Speaker 10: you just see his confidence in Dell and I think,

2605
01:56:19,754 --> 01:56:21,354
Speaker 10: you know, when he was emotional after he got hurt,

2606
01:56:21,394 --> 01:56:22,874
Speaker 10: you could tell it was like, well, one part Tank

2607
01:56:22,954 --> 01:56:26,514
Speaker 10: Dell terrible injury last year, rehab is just finally getting

2608
01:56:26,514 --> 01:56:26,994
Speaker 10: his stride.

2609
01:56:27,394 --> 01:56:27,674
Speaker 12: C J.

2610
01:56:27,754 --> 01:56:28,994
Speaker 11: Stroud has now found.

2611
01:56:28,754 --> 01:56:31,714
Speaker 10: Like an engine really, you know, to compliment their offense,

2612
01:56:31,754 --> 01:56:33,794
Speaker 10: and so it's I think it's a tough blow for them.

2613
01:56:33,874 --> 01:56:35,474
Speaker 10: I'd be interested see if they can bounce back, though,

2614
01:56:35,514 --> 01:56:37,434
Speaker 10: you know, a young team that they were coming up

2615
01:56:37,434 --> 01:56:39,114
Speaker 10: and down year they were kind of the darlings coming

2616
01:56:39,154 --> 01:56:40,914
Speaker 10: into this year and it could be a raw rock

2617
01:56:40,954 --> 01:56:41,994
Speaker 10: game for them, ra rock game.

2618
01:56:42,114 --> 01:56:45,154
Speaker 9: That's a big, big game, big kind of month here

2619
01:56:45,194 --> 01:56:47,874
Speaker 9: for Bobby Slowik, who, like everyone thought was gonna be

2620
01:56:47,914 --> 01:56:51,954
Speaker 9: the next you know, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan head coach,

2621
01:56:52,034 --> 01:56:54,474
Speaker 9: and this year it's not been so great.

2622
01:56:54,834 --> 01:56:56,154
Speaker 6: Are gone?

2623
01:56:56,914 --> 01:56:57,114
Speaker 8: You know?

2624
01:56:57,274 --> 01:57:01,554
Speaker 6: So they had to pick up Deontay Johnson. Oh geez,

2625
01:57:01,714 --> 01:57:03,634
Speaker 6: look out to play against the Ravens.

2626
01:57:03,674 --> 01:57:07,354
Speaker 9: I actually saw somebody I won't name who was like,

2627
01:57:07,394 --> 01:57:10,794
Speaker 9: why wouldn't the Patriots do? It's like with Deontay Johnson,

2628
01:57:10,994 --> 01:57:13,154
Speaker 9: like did you hear what happened with him on his

2629
01:57:13,234 --> 01:57:14,194
Speaker 9: last two teams?

2630
01:57:14,234 --> 01:57:15,914
Speaker 5: At this point, I don't think there's much point in

2631
01:57:15,954 --> 01:57:20,874
Speaker 5: picking anyone up. Oh my god, rhet wrights in, are

2632
01:57:20,914 --> 01:57:22,994
Speaker 5: we gonna get a chance to see Milton in relief

2633
01:57:22,994 --> 01:57:25,514
Speaker 5: at all these last two games? I'm not suggesting has

2634
01:57:25,554 --> 01:57:27,874
Speaker 5: failed in any way, But with all the talk about

2635
01:57:27,874 --> 01:57:30,994
Speaker 5: assessing young players and seeing where they are at and

2636
01:57:31,074 --> 01:57:33,394
Speaker 5: if they are developing or showing upside for the future,

2637
01:57:33,514 --> 01:57:36,234
Speaker 5: is there a chance Milton is developing into a serious

2638
01:57:36,354 --> 01:57:39,794
Speaker 5: QB two or a higher quality trade chip for the

2639
01:57:39,794 --> 01:57:42,794
Speaker 5: future sounded like Milton has done well in practice and

2640
01:57:42,834 --> 01:57:46,154
Speaker 5: has accepted his role, taking it seriously, working hard to

2641
01:57:46,234 --> 01:57:47,794
Speaker 5: keep the team and develop himself.

2642
01:57:48,474 --> 01:57:50,394
Speaker 10: I don't think so unless it's out of hand either way,

2643
01:57:50,514 --> 01:57:52,274
Speaker 10: like the Patriots or Cruisers, and.

2644
01:57:52,194 --> 01:57:53,914
Speaker 9: They would have to make them active for the game

2645
01:57:54,034 --> 01:57:55,994
Speaker 9: to begin with, like he hasn't been active for a

2646
01:57:55,994 --> 01:58:00,114
Speaker 9: game officially all year long. And yeah, I did. We

2647
01:58:00,114 --> 01:58:01,634
Speaker 9: get a lot of this in the mail bag. I

2648
01:58:01,674 --> 01:58:02,794
Speaker 9: feel like if they're gonna have.

2649
01:58:02,754 --> 01:58:04,834
Speaker 6: Got a call this morning about it, yeah, understand it.

2650
01:58:04,914 --> 01:58:07,434
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't really understand it either, Like next preseason

2651
01:58:07,514 --> 01:58:10,874
Speaker 9: he will have his opportunities to showcase what he can

2652
01:58:10,914 --> 01:58:12,794
Speaker 9: do and all that kind of stuff, Like he'll have

2653
01:58:12,874 --> 01:58:14,234
Speaker 9: his he'll have his chances.

2654
01:58:14,314 --> 01:58:17,154
Speaker 6: He's played ten games, Like why does he not need

2655
01:58:17,194 --> 01:58:20,714
Speaker 6: the other two at twelve? Like we done? Like Drake

2656
01:58:20,794 --> 01:58:24,034
Speaker 6: may like as nothing left to learn, nothing left for

2657
01:58:24,114 --> 01:58:24,794
Speaker 6: him to improve on.

2658
01:58:24,994 --> 01:58:27,114
Speaker 9: Yeah, when they were in that zone read I was

2659
01:58:27,194 --> 01:58:30,154
Speaker 9: kind of done. I was like, Okay, we're good. That's

2660
01:58:30,154 --> 01:58:30,954
Speaker 9: all I needed to say.

2661
01:58:31,154 --> 01:58:33,234
Speaker 6: So you want Milton to play the last Absolutely not.

2662
01:58:33,394 --> 01:58:35,434
Speaker 9: But I'm just saying like that, you know, that was

2663
01:58:35,474 --> 01:58:37,074
Speaker 9: the one thing I was waiting or if.

2664
01:58:36,954 --> 01:58:38,674
Speaker 6: You can make it through a game without turning it over,

2665
01:58:38,714 --> 01:58:41,354
Speaker 6: how about get a win? How about winning finish a game?

2666
01:58:41,514 --> 01:58:43,794
Speaker 6: Beat Chicago, winning a couple you know what I mean?

2667
01:58:43,954 --> 01:58:46,634
Speaker 6: Another way, I think there's a tremendous amount winning winning

2668
01:58:46,714 --> 01:58:47,514
Speaker 6: multiple times.

2669
01:58:48,114 --> 01:58:50,434
Speaker 9: I'm in that. I'm in agreement with you, but I

2670
01:58:50,434 --> 01:58:52,234
Speaker 9: don't want them to win. But I'm in agreement with

2671
01:58:52,274 --> 01:58:53,474
Speaker 9: you other than that, Yeah.

2672
01:58:53,434 --> 01:58:54,554
Speaker 5: You heard that.

2673
01:58:54,634 --> 01:58:57,034
Speaker 6: I don't want them to win, absolutely not.

2674
01:58:57,234 --> 01:58:59,394
Speaker 9: I want them to play the exact game they played.

2675
01:58:59,154 --> 01:59:02,834
Speaker 5: It because you want that high draft for who to

2676
01:59:03,034 --> 01:59:06,994
Speaker 5: trade it if they don't win, Like I heard, if

2677
01:59:07,034 --> 01:59:10,114
Speaker 5: they had lost, I mean, if they had one last week,

2678
01:59:10,154 --> 01:59:12,114
Speaker 5: they would have dropped like significantly.

2679
01:59:12,354 --> 01:59:14,194
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like there could be a difference. There's a lot

2680
01:59:14,194 --> 01:59:17,594
Speaker 9: of bad teams, so there could be winning a fourth game,

2681
01:59:17,714 --> 01:59:20,114
Speaker 9: or could be the difference of like the number one

2682
01:59:20,154 --> 01:59:22,234
Speaker 9: overall pick and like the ninth pick in the draft.

2683
01:59:22,314 --> 01:59:24,754
Speaker 6: Right the Raiders went from like two to six or something.

2684
01:59:24,834 --> 01:59:26,954
Speaker 10: Yeah, peer Scott asked about like you talked to the

2685
01:59:26,994 --> 01:59:28,114
Speaker 10: ton Telesco about it.

2686
01:59:28,514 --> 01:59:32,834
Speaker 9: So let's hard, Oh, very competitive losses. Okay, that's what

2687
01:59:32,874 --> 01:59:33,634
Speaker 9: the Patriots need.

2688
01:59:34,714 --> 01:59:37,394
Speaker 5: All right, Well, listen, we're gonna I hope you all

2689
01:59:37,434 --> 01:59:41,274
Speaker 5: have a very competitive and nice Christmas tomorrow for those

2690
01:59:41,314 --> 01:59:44,754
Speaker 5: of you celebrating competitive Yeah, you know, like who's got

2691
01:59:44,794 --> 01:59:47,234
Speaker 5: the best present, who ate the most food? That type

2692
01:59:47,274 --> 01:59:51,274
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2693
01:59:51,314 --> 01:59:54,714
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2694
01:59:54,754 --> 01:59:57,554
Speaker 5: hope you win your your bets, you know, that type

2695
01:59:57,554 --> 02:00:01,794
Speaker 5: of competition. Okay, uh, but we will be back on Thursday,

2696
02:00:01,874 --> 02:00:05,394
Speaker 5: our normal time. Catch twenty two will follow us on Thursday,

2697
02:00:05,474 --> 02:00:08,754
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2698
02:00:08,794 --> 02:00:09,034
Speaker 5: you then.

2699
02:00:09,994 --> 02:00:13,834
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