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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one fifty three of the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Battle.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for allowing us to be

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Speaker 1: this podcast, episode one fifty three. As you saw when

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Speaker 1: you saw the notification, we do have WWE Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer the Godfather on our show today. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about his early career, what led him to be

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Speaker 1: in the Nation of Domination, the Godfather role right to center,

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Speaker 1: and of course are we gonna get a nation of

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Speaker 1: without further ado, enough of me rambling.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready? Here it is? The episode one fifty

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Speaker 2: three with the Godfather starts.

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Speaker 3: Now, Battle.

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Speaker 4: Youth into the du Battle Crown.

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Speaker 3: Live from the Part Unknown Studios.

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Speaker 4: In the game. The Battle The Battleground Podcast starts.

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Speaker 6: Now, carry your host to bat.

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Speaker 3: Battle and Eli, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It is time for another episode of the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've got my tag team partner Eli with me. What's

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Speaker 1: up dude?

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Speaker 7: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Hello, And we've also got the Bell of the Brawl

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Speaker 1: Lena as well with us on the show.

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Speaker 3: Excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We are so excited to have you here. And uh,

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Speaker 1: we've got a special guest on the show. So should

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Speaker 1: I go ahead and play his theme song for everybody?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's been a minute since I've had that

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Speaker 7: rev that, you know, singing glorious sound in my ears.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so let's.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and hit our today's special guest theme song.

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Speaker 3: That is right, that means one thing.

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Speaker 1: The Godfather joins us on The show Man Godfather, what's happening?

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Speaker 6: Hey, what's going on? Guys? Thanks for having me on

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Speaker 6: the show Man.

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Speaker 3: Man, thanks for being here. We are super honored to

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Speaker 3: have you.

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Speaker 1: When I was telling everybody about you coming on the show,

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Speaker 1: we all kind of geeked out because we are big

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Speaker 1: fans of yours from the beginning of the career all

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Speaker 1: the way up until the Godfather. Man, It's it's an

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Speaker 1: honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 6: That's good to hear. Man that meets you. Guys are

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Speaker 6: on my side.

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Speaker 1: We've been on your side since day one, and I

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Speaker 1: know I know in our group chat, Lena did say

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Speaker 1: that she wanted to ask you a certain question.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna throw her into the bus for click for

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Speaker 3: this one.

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Speaker 8: Can I be on the whole train? Number one? And

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Speaker 8: is there an age limit now? To be on the

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Speaker 9: You gotta be twenty one to be on the whole train.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking for holes every minute of the day. So,

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Speaker 9: oh right, qualify you meet all the qualifications.

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Speaker 6: I did right in front of the whole train.

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Speaker 1: Oh fabulous.

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Speaker 8: And my mother also wants to be on it. Her

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Speaker 8: name is Lisa.

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Speaker 9: Hey, there's somebody out there for everybody. We take a young, old, fat, black, white.

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Speaker 6: We don't care.

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Speaker 7: Man, I love it.

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Speaker 6: There's somebody. I've got a girl for everybody out there.

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Speaker 7: Wheah. Yeah, equal opportunity, godfather, that's what we There we go.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 8: So back in the eighties, you were noticed during the

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Speaker 8: filming of the movie over at the top. How did

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Speaker 8: lead you to the legendary monster Factory.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't involved in movie. I was working in a

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Speaker 6: I remember all the names some of those guys, think

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Speaker 6: Scott North's if I'm not mistaking, But a lot of

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Speaker 6: I was the bartender, bouncer manager, I was everything, and

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Speaker 6: I don't want to do that. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 6: back then I was more much more of a biker

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Speaker 6: heard of a guy named Dam Dam Bigelow And I'm

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Speaker 6: I asked to do with the tattoos on said right there?

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Speaker 6: Like yeah. I'm like, well that was all added up.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, well you've got to be cool. But they're like,

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Speaker 6: well he made a million dollars last year. I'm like,

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Speaker 6: how much?

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Speaker 7: Come again.

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Speaker 6: I made a call I made a call to uh

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Speaker 6: And I went home and so my wife sell the

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Speaker 7: So was uh, eighties Jersey a down grade from eighties Vegas?

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Speaker 6: I would say a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I can imagine a little bit. He's kind

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Speaker 7: of pertaining Specific to the training aspect, what do you

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Speaker 7: becoming a pro wrestler, Because you always hear about, you know,

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Speaker 7: you have the natural athletes that don't really get into

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Speaker 7: got to find that balance. What what was your you know,

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Speaker 7: what was your hardest obstacle? You know in the ring?

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Speaker 6: My hardest obstacle was how to learn how to drink

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Speaker 6: secret stuff.

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Speaker 8: I don't blame you on that one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that one, that's rough.

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Speaker 6: I literally, I literally, I can't tell you the amount

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Speaker 6: Jerry the King Lawler came through and see me, and

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Speaker 6: I literally knew how to lock up, and for some

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Speaker 6: think I was in class that day they were teaching that,

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Speaker 6: and uh, he's seen me, and he offered me a job.

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Speaker 6: And the very my very I mean I really literally

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Speaker 6: I don't kN know how to lock up. And my

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Speaker 6: very first match ever, ever practice match, any type of match,

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Speaker 6: was against Jerry the King Lawler on a Monday night

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Speaker 6: at Memphis tu see mid in the middle of one,

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Speaker 6: two three, And that was my first match ever.

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Speaker 8: That's wild, that's a that's a good different your average

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that's a good segue into the next question.

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Speaker 7: So I'm actually from West Tennessee, so Memphis wrestling is

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Speaker 7: when I grew up on. My cousin actually was a

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Speaker 7: He was in the Nightmares.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So Sunday mornings we'd watch the Jerry Lawler Show

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Speaker 7: and then we'd watch wrestling. Uh well, wrestling was Saturday mornings.

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Speaker 7: His his show was on Sunday mornings. But anyways, like

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Speaker 7: you said, you got brought in. Uh you were the

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Speaker 7: soul Taker I think was your name at the time, right,

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Speaker 7: that's what was so, yeah, you you actually won the

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Speaker 7: that was I think the aw A, the w C

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Speaker 7: all combined. Lawler won that, so it was still considered

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Speaker 7: A few years later as Papa Shanko I when WWF

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Speaker 7: and usw A were doing trade shairs and stuff, Uh,

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Speaker 7: what was your time like in Memphis, you know, being

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Speaker 7: kind of handpicked by Lawler and you know, obviously the

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Speaker 7: the excitement of the Monday night crowds at the Memphis

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Speaker 6: Uh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, that's pretty much it. Yeah, what what you know?

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Speaker 7: What's your biggest takeaway from that time? And you know, especially.

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Speaker 6: Probably probably the best time that I had in wrestling

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Speaker 6: was going back to that time and just how rough

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Speaker 6: it was we lived. I lived in Nashville. We had

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Speaker 6: you know, like you said, I think we had Memphis

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Speaker 6: TV Saturday morning, so we drive from Nashville to Memphis

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Speaker 6: for three hour drive. We drive me me the Spean

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Speaker 6: Taker would drive from Nashville to Memphis, do TV, drive

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Speaker 6: back to Nashville Force Show, have Sunday off, and then

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Speaker 6: back up Monday to Memphis to do Monday Night. My

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Speaker 6: best stories where we were starving, Uh, we were just surviving.

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Speaker 6: We were out on the road making it. And probably

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Speaker 6: some of them when I talked to Undertaker. Now, excuse

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Speaker 6: me when we text, because we don't talk anymore. Ye

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Speaker 6: are we don't even FaceTime? We text if we do

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Speaker 6: talk about wrestling. It's about those times I talked to

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Speaker 6: And like I said, if it is, it's about those

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Speaker 6: old Memphis days, because those are the best stories. We

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Speaker 6: and that was some of the best times that these

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Speaker 6: And I think the stories we tell are always from

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, and I think too a lot of you

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Speaker 6: He was there when I was there. I'm telling you

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Speaker 7: I mean that that that name is help.

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Speaker 6: He is. He was after I beat him the next

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, absolutely. They're actually doing here. In a couple

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Speaker 7: He probably still does one hundred dates a year. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you know, like he had a heart

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Speaker 6: Hey, I don't know if that's dedication crazy or what

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Speaker 6: They hired me and said, uh, we're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 6: He says. You have the body of a monster. He says,

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Speaker 6: That if you see me on Instagram. I don't think

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Speaker 7: I would I would like, I'm not. I'm not doing

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't want to swear. I have been

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Speaker 3: If you swear, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a full anything goes in this podcast, So.

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Speaker 6: No bullshit. At twenty seven years old, I'm Papa Shanga.

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Speaker 6: I'm going through a nasty, nasty divorce. And back then

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Speaker 6: then I was pretty mean. I mean, I wasn't a bully,

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Speaker 6: So if you mistakenly called me that word, I would

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Speaker 6: don't say that. There was. It was bam.

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Speaker 7: And unless you'd be the normal response anyway, I won't.

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Speaker 6: Do that's what after the Papashaga. People think it was Vince.

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Speaker 6: When I did try it, dude, just I mean, I

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Speaker 6: I hope he's not listening to this. He's three years

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Speaker 6: financially he's said he's done well, but he looks older

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Speaker 6: I don't think to this day, the heaviest big I'll

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Speaker 6: I'm you know, I will have a shot at Jack

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Speaker 6: Maybe it doesn't work for everybody, but for me, it

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Speaker 6: That gives me the monchies. Really, it gets the bunches.

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Speaker 7: Know so well, And I think there's it's an interesting

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Speaker 3: You know, well, I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 7: You know, alcohol is still you can find it. I

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Speaker 6: I wasn't a bad mood a lot earlier, but I'm

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Speaker 7: I think it's it's interesting that like you can get

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Speaker 6: I bet here in the next five years everywhere.

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Speaker 8: We do want to talk about Papa Shano a little

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Speaker 8: but Gene Okerland was interviewing you and you put a

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Speaker 1: Just think is fabulous.

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Speaker 8: I don't even know what year it was, but we

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Speaker 6: The only thing that I didn't like about the character

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Speaker 6: Every time I go to he turned away like he

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Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, yeah, that's It's one of my favorite memories.

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Speaker 8: And I really do feel like today that kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, definitely takes.

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Speaker 6: You may always have a character like that, you know.

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Speaker 6: I tell you one character they'll never have a gein

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, cannot be recreated.

515
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Speaker 6: I out there calling girls hose selling girl talked about

516
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517
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Speaker 8: I want to say there were some merchandise that was

519
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Speaker 8: like ho merchandise if.

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Speaker 3: I'd have the Google to see, like.

521
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Speaker 7: The feather boas.

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Speaker 6: When I renewed my contract the last time that Godfather

523
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Speaker 6: I did the number at them. I said, you guys

524
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525
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: laughed because that was so That gimmick was so hot.

526
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 6: People loved that game so much. And back then at

527
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 6: the beginning, there wasn't no internet, and there wasn't no

528
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 6: online sales or none of that. The only things you

529
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Speaker 6: sold was in the building. You had to buy the

530
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Speaker 6: shirts in the building. Had das for the lock at

531
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Speaker 6: his spot for Stone Cold John Michael's, you know undertaker.

532
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 6: Then we have like five or six spots for shirt.

533
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 6: So you get into that pot of heart. Well probably

534
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 6: my godfather got in there and stated there so I

535
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 6: mean I actually, if you look online, I was. I

536
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 6: was the first and only wrestler ever ever. They have

537
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 6: marijuana leaves on an official w w F shirt.

538
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 7: Nice that sounds appropriate.

539
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 8: That's a collector's.

540
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 6: Back of My Speed. You'll see a picture of it.

541
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 6: But if you look it up, godfather marijuana shirt and

542
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: makes two of them. But I had actual marijuana leaves

543
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 6: and on one of them on the back Sid Roller

544
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Speaker 6: Fatty for pimp Daddy. And now you Godfather to take

545
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Speaker 6: said godfathers love skinny women. Godfather loves skinny women, but

546
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Speaker 6: will never say no to a fatty.

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Speaker 1: As we're talking about, I'm looking on right now, okay,

548
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Speaker 1: and you talk about not being on T shirts. Right

549
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Speaker 1: now on eBay for one hundred dollars, there's a T

550
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Speaker 1: shirt that says, don't say no, just say oh.

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Speaker 2: You're never gonna be able to see.

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Speaker 3: This now, like you said, you can't. You can't have

553
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Speaker 3: these kind of shirts.

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Speaker 6: Don't stay. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I remember when it all came out and I would

556
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Speaker 1: go to school and I would I would be like,

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Speaker 1: let's get on the whole train, and I mean everybody

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Speaker 1: would would say that, and it was just.

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Speaker 6: Know what a whole train was.

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Speaker 1: I did not win at time, and then my parents

561
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Speaker 1: like completely yelled at me. It was the same time

562
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Speaker 1: when I was telling everybody to suck it, because I

563
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Speaker 3: You know?

565
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Speaker 1: And then I was I was I was saying let's

566
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Speaker 1: get on the whole train everybody, and I was looking

567
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Speaker 1: at people in the class. And I did get in

568
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Speaker 1: trouble for saying it, But as I look.

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Speaker 6: Back on it, I was like, hey, you know how

570
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Speaker 6: many people probably got sus fitted from school from telling

571
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Speaker 6: some girl, I'm gonna put you on the whole train.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was a great thing.

573
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: Nobody knew anything different back then.

574
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Speaker 6: Oh, be real, be real with Cypress Hill. I met

575
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Speaker 6: him during wrestling a long time ago, and he told me,

576
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Speaker 6: he goes, dude, how did you getting away with saying

577
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578
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Speaker 6: people really know what I'm saying.

579
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Speaker 1: Nobody knew because I mean, you know, some people didn't realize.

580
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: Of course, during the time of wrestling back then, when

581
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: you had the hose with you, we just all assumed

582
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Speaker 1: that they were just you know, the regular girls that

583
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Speaker 1: were there. We didn't think anything of it, you know,

584
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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 7: Bro ho like I don't know. I mean, yeah, I

586
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Speaker 7: don't know what I assumed. I just thought it was,

587
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Speaker 7: you know, I almost equated it more to like, you're

588
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Speaker 7: just the ladies, man, so like you you got all

589
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Speaker 7: the girls and you know that kind of thing. I

590
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 7: didn't dig deeper into the whole, like you know, Oh, okay,

591
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 7: I get it now.

592
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: Oh man, I believe me. But you know what I'm

593
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 6: having just as but the Godfather of personality, as Charles

594
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 6: Wright as me that's all it is. Like I said,

595
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 6: I used to be really mean back in the day.

596
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: Two things type of my twentieth year anniversary to my

597
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 6: wife was yesterday a happy anniversary and she along with marijuana.

598
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 6: Those are the two ladies in my life that maybe

599
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Speaker 6: a lot nicer person nice because I used to be

600
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: I'm telling you who. But I enjoyed being the nicer

601
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 6: person that I am today and to bring that person

602
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: out in wrestling. And people don't know. I was never scripted.

603
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 6: They never They might give me a flashpoint or something.

604
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 6: I'd just stay in town or hiding the virus here

605
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 6: or something, but I was never ever scripted. Let us

606
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 6: we God, let ask the work good question.

607
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 7: Well, this one kind of is timely in a sense.

608
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 7: So you kind of rolled over from Shannga to Kalma,

609
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 7: which became Comma Mustafa, which led you into one of

610
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 7: the greatest factions in ww history, nation and domination. We're

611
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 7: still waiting on the Hall of Fame call for that one.

612
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 7: By the way, how did that come together? You know?

613
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: Uh?

614
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

615
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 7: Was there just someone threw something out there? Was it

616
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 7: a plan?

617
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Speaker 6: Like?

618
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Speaker 7: How did that group.

619
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Speaker 6: Run the do?

620
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Speaker 5: What?

621
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Speaker 6: How did I get in the Nation. Is that what

622
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Speaker 6: you're asking?

623
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, did was there a specific plan or did

624
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Speaker 7: it just kind of organically?

625
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Speaker 6: No plan? This is the plan I was. I was

626
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Speaker 6: coming back anyway, but I was coming back as Papastrongo,

627
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 6: and uh, it was going to be a little bit

628
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,880
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629
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630
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631
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632
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633
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634
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635
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636
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637
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,640
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638
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639
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Speaker 6: You and Ron Simmons are going to have a handicap

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641
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642
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643
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644
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645
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Speaker 6: in the Nation. And so just like that, I became

646
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647
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648
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649
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650
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651
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Speaker 6: everything out for us, and he said when he says,

654
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 6: once I get people to hate this kid when I

655
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 6: turned him, he's going to be the biggest thing wrestling

656
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 6: ever saw. That's what which want.

657
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

658
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 6: And then the rest of that was from that point right.

659
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 6: Of course, I don't talk to the Rock too much,

660
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 6: but whenever I see him, he's always cool. It's always

661
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 6: good to see him. I talked to Ron, I talked

662
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 6: to Dlo, I talked to Mark Henry. I said, that's

663
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 6: what all those guys. I talked to Ron Simmons a lot,

664
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 6: but great time, great people. We had no idea at

665
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 6: the time the significance of it now what we were

666
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: doing back then. I was just doing my job. I

667
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 6: always just tried to do my job the best I could.

668
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 6: And I didn't get involved in the politics. I didn't

669
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 6: get involved with what's got on here. I did my job.

670
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 6: I passed my check, and I smoke my weed, and

671
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: I stayed happy. I heard but and didn't hurt nobody.

672
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: And that's all you can ask for.

673
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm sure business happy with all that, Yeah.

674
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 7: For sure.

675
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: So you know, for a while, we would always look

676
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: online and there was always on the dirt sheets there

677
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: was talking about a new nation of domination coming and

678
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: could it have been the new day? And then all

679
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we see the Hurt Business with MVP

680
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: and all them, and you know, Ron Simmons showed up,

681
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: and we thought, okay, maybe the Hurt Business could be

682
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: the new nation of domination the new generation. And do

683
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: you think that they could do that?

684
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 7: Now?

685
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Have they like asked you guys to kind of come

686
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: back and give your blessings, Like, what would you think

687
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: about a new nation of domination in this current climate.

688
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 6: I'm surprised Vince had touched that already. I don't know, man,

689
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 6: that's a situation man that could really hurt them. I

690
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 6: would have did it already. I would have called them

691
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 6: the Nation a domination. But if you do, they're gonna

692
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: be baby faces. They're not gonna be healed, right, that's bills.

693
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 6: They're gonna be baby faces. So where do you go

694
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: with that? You know, like today, if you had going

695
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: against the Nation, d X would be the ills and

696
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 6: Nation would be the baby faces. Yeah, so I don't know,

697
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, you know, this is a

698
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 6: smart man. He didn't make all that money by and

699
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 6: everybody shit talks him now and then, but he's a

700
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 6: smart man and he keeps up with the times. So

701
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 6: you know, I'm surprised. I personally, I would have did it.

702
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: I would have called the Nation a domination.

703
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, with with all the stuff that's going on,

704
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 7: unfortunately and the last you know, five to ten years,

705
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 7: I'm with you, like, I don't know why it hasn't

706
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 7: popped up before, but seems like this new group is

707
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 7: kind of spiritual, you know, kind of a spiritual successor.

708
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 6: Like I think I don't watched the show. I'm going

709
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 6: to start watching pretty soon because I'm getting asked too

710
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: many questions about the show, and I don't know, and

711
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 6: I'm bopping to a lot of wrestling fans, so I

712
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: don't have to start catching up one stuff. But I

713
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 6: think baby faces their heels.

714
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 7: Yeah. So the next thing you were part of, which

715
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 7: actually kind of looking back on is it was actually

716
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 7: really smart. But it was right to censor, specifically bringing

717
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 7: in you and Valvenus, you know, two of the kind

718
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 7: of adult themed you know, performers and all that kind

719
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: of stuff. That was again that was probably Vince's move.

720
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 7: That was really smart. What was what was your time

721
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 7: like in that faction? And you know, do you have

722
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 7: any fond memories of it and all that?

723
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 6: I don't have any fond memories of that. I hated it.

724
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 6: I hated it. I hated it. I hated it almost

725
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 6: quick because of it. Oh wow, I was so much

726
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 6: fun as Godfather. I was having it. Everybody, believe me,

727
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: Everybody enjoyed that Godfather giving the bands, the wrestlers, anti office.

728
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: Everybody loved that Godfather give me and then called me

729
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 6: to the office. Go to his office and he goes

730
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 6: change of plans, that old change of plans again, but

731
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 6: I already knew something was coming up. He goes excuse me.

732
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 6: This was taking so much heat. He used to tell me, uh,

733
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 6: he take you know there the sponsors were going after him,

734
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: part about foul, about d X, about the fuckies, and

735
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: mostly about me. And he was fighting for me. He

736
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 6: used to tell me, also, fight for you, fighting for you. Well,

737
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 6: finally they got to him, so you know, he's like, hey,

738
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: we're gonna put you and you're gonna do this and

739
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 6: that you guys are gonna lose this match. You're gonna

740
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 6: be in the RTC. And I'm like, wait a minute.

741
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: I just remember I just kept saying, so no more Godfather,

742
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 6: and he's like, nope, You're we're gonna call you the

743
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: good Father. I'm like he's like, no no more Old.

744
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 6: I'm like like yeah, I'm like you. I just I

745
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 6: was like the shock. I'm like, what do you mean

746
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 6: I'm about to Godfather? No more? And so it was

747
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 6: just I did the best I could, but I wasn't happy.

748
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 7: Well it's surprising hearing that from you.

749
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 6: I think I stopped smoking for a while or even before. Unhappy.

750
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, considering what you said about I mean

751
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 7: all the merchant stuff you were selling, and I mean

752
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: Godfather was obviously one of the most over during that

753
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 7: era when they intertal chut, title and all that. So

754
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 7: it was surprising, But now that you've explained that, it

755
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 7: makes a lot of sense.

756
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever saw anybody rocking a right

757
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: to Censor T shirt.

758
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 6: You would be surprised that somebody. I go to how

759
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: many right to sencer T shirts? I see? Because they

760
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 6: made it go, I've got one. The body hit me one.

761
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: I almost worked today. I was gonna go live today,

762
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 6: but I had I dropped my iPads. I was putting

763
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 6: it in stad that I'd have concrete floors. I stand

764
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 6: concrete floors at my house. Hit the floor just so

765
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 6: she just left. I said, it's sure, get another one.

766
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: So it is, and you know, it's it's one thing.

767
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: And we talk about kind of like the current state

768
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: of wrestling with a W and W E and kind.

769
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: Of some other stuff.

770
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: But a funny thing that happened, and a lot of

771
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: people kind of talked about this, and ou't know, maybe

772
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: you know about it, but back when right to censer

773
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: was a thing, it was like rightdosenser dot com ae

774
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: W went and bought that domain. And so if you

775
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: go back and watch the w W network and then

776
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: you go to rightdosenser dot com, it takes you to

777
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: a w's homepage.

778
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 6: No way.

779
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, they did a good troll on that one, sneaky

780
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 7: look it up. I did just check it. It's it

781
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 7: does still go to I'll Eat Wrestling.

782
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 8: So we're wrapping up here soon and I'm gonna put

783
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 8: you on the spot. So, do you have a defining

784
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 8: moment from your career in WWE that comes to mind?

785
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 6: No, so, because I had, you have no idea. I

786
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: had such a life and from all all the time

787
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 6: that I was there, and the different characters and the people. Dude,

788
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: every day was a party. And people always ask me

789
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: what was your favorite match? I mean, like, well, a

790
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 6: guess two against Undertaker against this one again, I have

791
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 6: favorite matters. I wrestled just about everybody because I came

792
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 6: in at the end of a lot of great career

793
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: careers and the start of a lot of norse. So

794
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 6: I had so much fun. I had the most memorable times.

795
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 6: Would have bit as the Godfather and every night was

796
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 6: mivorable because what you've seen on TV was nothing compared

797
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 6: to what I did in the house shows. Because the

798
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 6: house shows, there wasn't no cameras. I wasn't on TV,

799
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 6: so if I was rated X on TV, I was

800
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 6: on the House shows. And some of those House show

801
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 6: moments were just I'd be just crazy. The things that

802
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 6: I would do, would say and get away with it.

803
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: That just best are probably my best liveries is the

804
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 6: house shows as the Godsfather and these and it let

805
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 6: it loose and I did believe the idea that's.

806
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 8: Awesome pimping and easy.

807
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: How true that is?

808
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Yes, keep on pimping. So one really so one really

809
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: cool thing.

810
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: And we kind of like to ask these people because

811
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of Hall of famers on.

812
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 7: And shooting your domination, uh Cohart and mister Mark Henry,

813
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 7: we had him.

814
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: He and Mark had a Twitter war going back and

815
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: forth calling each other out on there, and he came

816
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: into the studio and choked me.

817
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: So that was a fun day.

818
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 7: Oh that reminds me too. We were supposed to have

819
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 7: d lot this time last year and our schedules didn't

820
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 7: line up, so dang, that'd been another one. Anyway. Sorry,

821
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 7: we're big fans of the nation. In case you can't tell.

822
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: Yes, So something we like to like to ask all

823
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: the Hall of famers. When did you get the call

824
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: that you were going into the Hall of Fame and

825
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: what was that experience like During WrestleMania weekend.

826
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 6: I was on my way to the gym. Mark Toronto

827
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 6: called me and I've been going to WrestleManias for the

828
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 6: last ten years. You might not see me on TV,

829
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 6: but I'm I'm part of the show and access whatever.

830
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 6: And so he's like, well, you're all set for WrestleMania.

831
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, man, I'm all set, and he goes, well,

832
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: who you bringing. I'm like, who am I bringing? The

833
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 6: matter with my brand? Bringing my wife? He goes, well,

834
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 6: you might want to bring your old family and I'm like,

835
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 6: go why would I want to bring my whole family? Mark?

836
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 6: He goes, because putting you into Hall of Fame this year,

837
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 6: And that's exactly how the call went. Wow, that whole

838
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: weekend was cool. But Dula guys did without getting people

839
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: in trouble. But every night there's a Godfather, happy fun night.

840
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 6: No better where I'm at. So if it's holiday weekend,

841
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 6: if it's seven flam weeked, I have I have a

842
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 6: lot of fund and people around me have a lot

843
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 6: of fund. So uh, it was just another fun weekend. Weekend.

844
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, wouldn't I wouldn't expect less? What's that I said? Yeah,

845
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 7: I said, we would not expect less?

846
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 6: Yeah. Fun.

847
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 7: Well, I guess we'll kind of end on this note.

848
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 7: You know what does what are some things you're working

849
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 7: on or you have, you know, brewing kind of coming

850
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 7: out in the future, and then, uh, you know you've

851
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: mentioned your Instagram.

852
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 6: Really my fee into this cannabis industry, yeah, would be real.

853
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 6: We're gonna have a spring. I have a string coming

854
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: out pretty soon speaking because, like I said, I actually

855
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 6: have a story being high and getting that. That's a

856
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 6: fun part. But there's a lot of benefits from HD

857
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 6: and cannabis, and so I do have a story to tell.

858
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 6: I'm going to start a podcast. I'm just final filling

859
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 6: my way. I've really I have been on Instagram literally

860
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 6: verified for like four months. It's all I've been on there,

861
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 6: and I'm kind of learning my way around it. I'm

862
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: having a lot of fun. I'm going to do a podcast.

863
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 6: I got some products I have. I work with news

864
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 6: and some other companies I'm an influencer for. I still

865
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 6: do wrestling. I do a lot of virtual wrestling shows.

866
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 6: I do I'm really busy. I actually have to do

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Speaker 6: whos I get done with you. I have to do

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Speaker 6: something with Ice Network tonight. I'm doing so I'm really, really,

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Speaker 6: really busy. I'm really busy. Yeah, I'm having how about this,

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Speaker 6: I'm having Godfather fun right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's all you can ask for. Well, real quick,

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Speaker 7: tell everyone your socials, you know, make sure we know

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Speaker 7: your Instagram handle and you know if that's the main

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Speaker 7: place to be from.

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Speaker 6: On Instagram, am i am the Godfather with the blue

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Speaker 6: check mark the Godfather? On Facebook? I am b w

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Speaker 6: W E Godfather with the blue check mark. And I

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Speaker 6: just started a YouTube channel called smoke Strain And it's

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Speaker 6: kind of hard to find out if I don't think it.

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Speaker 6: The leak so far down there's so many trains and

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Speaker 6: smoking this and that. But I'm working on that and

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be working on a podcast and right

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Speaker 6: now I'm doing a lot of stuff on Instagram. If

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Speaker 6: you don't follow me, follow thee you'll give you like

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Speaker 6: this interview, you'll get a kick out of the because

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Speaker 6: I was really aigits. I don't hold back. If you

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Speaker 6: watch fights, you guys, you I don't hold back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can vouch for that because I watch your

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Speaker 1: Instagram streams when I see the notification that you go live,

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Speaker 1: and nothing, nothing is held back at all.

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Speaker 6: I don't have no problem telling off myself, man, because

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Speaker 6: I can't get trouble tell it off myself. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Godfather is our guest.

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Speaker 1: We have been super super honored to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show, and we're definitely gonna have to do this again.

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Speaker 3: Next time. We'll do a video of this interview.

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Speaker 6: I like you have some fun awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Godfather, and you have a

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Speaker 1: great rest of your day.

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Speaker 6: You guys enjoy yours, say Sae.

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Speaker 10: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review.

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