1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: What is up, Straight far or fam It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Straight Boyer for Wednesday, January the twenty eighth. Goodnight in 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: college basketball. Some really good games. Nebraska Michigan an absolute thriller. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: That Nebraska team is good. One of the best passing 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: teams I've seen this season. And if you guys saw 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: the site I gave out Nebraska plus eleven, you're welcome. 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: I do need to dive right into the biggest story 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: in sports, and we're just getting lucky this week. There's 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: just not a lot happening, getting kind of slow. Nobody's 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: that excited to coach the Browns. There's zero movement on 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals job. Raiders seem to be waiting for 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: somebody is at Kubiak. I don't know. It's a coveted 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: job because Mendoz is there. It feels like they have 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: their guy. They're just waiting and maybe the guy's still coaching. 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: But something went down. A bit of a neutron bomb 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: hit the NFL or Tuesday after dude, So the Pro 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. Oh, you know what, let me 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: preface this. I'm not a huge Hall of Fame guy. 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: Some people love that stuff. Hall of Fame Weekend is 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: like a big to do. People want to go to 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: the game, people want to listen to all the speeches. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean, people get really really excited for the Pro 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. I just it's not my jam, 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: you know. I like the games. I like betting, I 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: like fantasy. I don't really care what a former player 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: coach has to say. I'm sure some of these speeches 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: are epic and memorable, but if I want an epic speech, 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, I'll take it from someone who's a former 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: who's not a former football player, you know, maybe maybe 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: an entrepreneur or a philosopher or something. I just I 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: can't get that worked up about speeches. And yes, I've 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: seen some of them on YouTube. Obviously, some of them 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: will really go strong. None jump off the top of 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: my head. But it's just not a big thing. I 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: just don't really care about the speeches. So I'm not 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: a huge Hall of Fame guy. But sometimes there comes 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: some names who are very painfully obvious to the Pro 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame. One of those names is Bill Belichick, 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: and in a blockbuster story that dropped yesterday, out of nowhere, 41 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick was not voted a first ballot Hall of Famer. 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, of course, the second winningest coach in the 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: history of football, eight time Super Bowl winner, six with 44 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: the Patriots, two with the Giants. Folks, I mean, it's ridiculous. 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: He's the most accomplished coach in the history of the sport. 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: He's the best coach. He should be a slam dunk 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. I mean, when Lebron and 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes are weighing in on this on social media 49 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: within like two hours of the news, you know that 50 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: it's a bit of a travesty. Now there's several layers 51 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: to this. I'm gonna get to all of them. Some 52 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: background people have been, you know, doing backflips finding out 53 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: about this, because there's a lot of people who think, oh, well, 54 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Belichick Spygate to flight Kate. He shouldn't come on, he's 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: got to pay that tax. He does not deserve to 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: be a first ballot Hall of Famer. I'm gonna step 57 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: back from that just for a moment. We'll revisit, but 58 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: it should be pointed out someone dug up a book 59 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: that or maybe it was an article that Belichick talked 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: about growing up outside of Cleveland in Ohio, and Belichick said, 61 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: we regularly went to the Hall of Fame in Canton. 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: My dad knew a couple of people there that he 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: had known from his Ohio connections. We would go down 64 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: to the basement of the Hall of Fame and they 65 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: would show us their collection of books, which was other 66 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: than in the Library of Congress. I think it's the 67 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: largest collection of football books that there is. Like, Bill 68 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: Belichick is a true student of the game. He loves football. Okay, 69 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: you can say what you want about him. He's a jerk, 70 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: he's gruff, he was mean to the media for many, 71 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: many years. All that stuff. I'm not denying any of that, 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: there's no denying it. But what is also clear is 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: the process is a bit of a mess. And Mike Sando, 74 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: who's been on the podcast plenty of times, he's a 75 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: football voter. Some people who voted for Belichick came out 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: and obviously were like, I voted for Belichick, even though 77 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: they don't want you saying who you voted for. You know, 78 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: this seems like a circumstance where it's fine to say, 79 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: you know who you voted for. So Sando lays out 80 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: a weird scenario. Now, again, this isn't just here are 81 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: the people who are up for the Pro Football Hall 82 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: of Fame, vote them in or not. It's not quite 83 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: like this, okay. So there are three quote unquote senior guys, 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: senior players who are up, and those were Roger Craig, 85 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: the late RC Greenwood, and somebody Anderson. So it was essentially, 86 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: are you ready for this? Belichick, those three senior guys, 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: and Robert Craft up for the Hall of Fame. Robert 88 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Kraft he's the of course owner of the Patriots. So 89 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: according to Mike Sando, those five guys are competing for 90 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: one to three spots, separate from fifteen other finalists. So 91 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: fifty voters each pick three of those five guys and it. 92 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: You know, there's a world where the math just doesn't happen. 93 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Now one would think Bill Belichick's name comes up. Yes, 94 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: I vote for him, that's obvious. I loved Roger Craig 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: of the forty nine ers. You can tell the story 96 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: of the NFL without Roger Craig fairly easily. Bill Belichick, 97 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: you can't. The guy is unsurpassed. He is on the 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: mount rushmore of NFL coaches, whether you hate the Patriots 99 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: or like them. And you guys know I don't like 100 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: the Patriots. I mean, the fact that there's even a 101 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: story about this is insane. So of those fifty voters, 102 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: you need forty to get in. And according to Sando, 103 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, all it takes is a couple of people saying, well, 104 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, these senior players, this is kind of their 105 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: last chance to get in, and let me vote for them. 106 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: And well, Robert Kraft has been in the mix for years. 107 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: I think I saw fourteen years, which was insane. 108 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: And. 109 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: I gotta vote for him. You know, Belichick's gonna get in. 110 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: That's a no brainer. What are we worried about? Belichick 111 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: will get in the whole thing, which I think is 112 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: the totally wrong attitude, But what do I know. That's 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: just me. And then there's the spygate to flake Gate, 114 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: which cannot be glossed over because let's be real, it 115 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: was something. Now if we want to argue to Flakegate 116 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: was a non story, it was a Tom Brady thing. 117 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: You can argue that. I don't need to really get 118 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: into that. I'll just say this as an aside, Ladies, 119 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, if Bill Belichick is paying the wait to 120 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: year tax because of to flake Gate, I would assume 121 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: the same will hold true for Tom Brady do to 122 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: Spygate or I said that vice versa. But you know 123 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: what I mean. Brady was allegedly the one who deflated 124 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: at that Colts game. I don't think that's right at all. 125 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: But I would assume these guys are going to stay 126 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: on brand. Now they're saying there's already talked at the 127 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: rule change, that the voting is going to need changes, 128 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: which that makes total sense to me. 129 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 130 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 131 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 132 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: listen live. 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: This idea that Bill Belichick should wait a year, I 134 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: think deserves to take a back seat to the Kraft 135 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Belichick ending. Now I think we've forgotten. It's not even 136 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: two years old. I think we've forgotten how ugly that was. 137 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: Guys. 138 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: Okay, it got bad, so I decided to look it up. 139 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: So January twenty twenty four, Kraft dumps Belichick. However, at 140 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: the time, right after the season ended, Kraft called it 141 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: a parting of ways mutually agreed upon, and then they 142 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: had that weird press conference where Belichick was like not 143 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: saying anything, and Kraft was silent, and Belichick is like, 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm not taking questions. I'm out of here. Leaves Craft 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: has to come back and answer questions from the media. 146 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: It was very awkward. Everybody knew some something went down. 147 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: How could you fire Belichick? Well, we didn't fire It 148 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: was mutually agreed upon parting of ways, right, So then 149 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: ten months later, Kraft is doing some radio show because 150 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: that's what some of these look at me owners do, 151 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: and Kraft comes out and says, wait for it. This 152 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: is like ten months later, Well, I took a big 153 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: risk on hiring Belichick back in two thousand. I took 154 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: a big risk, So of course, Belichick, you know, that 155 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: quote makes the rounds and then instantly Belichick gives a 156 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: statement to ESPN as I told Robert multiple times through 157 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: the years, I took a big risk by taking the 158 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: new England Patriots head coaching job. I already had an 159 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: opportunity to the head coach of the Jets, but the 160 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: ownership situation was unstable. So essentially Belichick is saying you 161 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: took a risk on me. I took a risk on you, mf. 162 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,239 Speaker 2: And you can see how that gets heated. So Belichick, 163 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: not quite finished, did an interview with the Boston Globe 164 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: after taking the North Carolina job, and he clearly had 165 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: not forgotten the dig from Craft, and Belichick was asked 166 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: about the different the big difference between college versus the NFL, 167 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: and Belichick said, there's no owner, there's no owner's son, 168 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: there's no cap everything that goes with the marketing and 169 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: everything else, which I'm all for that. There's no owner's son. 170 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: Wooooo whoo ooh wie. Now, then Dennick devolved into Craft, 171 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: essentially saying, well, you know, I gave Bill too much 172 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: power and this, that and the other, and folks, I mean, listen, 173 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was definitely on Craft, but if 174 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: we're being completely honest, one hundred percent honest with ourselves, 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: you know, Kraft waited a long time to get into 176 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and there was no 177 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: way he was gonna let Belichick get in ahead of him. 178 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: And I almost feel confident in saying he was doing 179 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: some lobbying beforehand to make sure he got in and 180 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: Belichick didn't. Where it gets even more interesting is Bill 181 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: Pollion in this ESPN article was fingered as the guy 182 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: who you know, I don't want to say standing up, 183 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: but essentially was pounding the table wondering, Hey, what the 184 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: heck's going on here? And let me find the exact 185 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: quote from Pollion. Well it's not quite an exact quote 186 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: from Pollion, but yeah. Multiple sources told ESPN that spygate, 187 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: in to flake Gate, came up in the deliberations. A 188 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: voter who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that Pollion, 189 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: an ardent Craft supporter, former GM of the Bills and Colts, 190 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: and a chief Patriots rival, told some voters he believed 191 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: Belichick should wait a year before induction as penance for spygate. 192 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Bill Pollion saying he should wait a year. Of course, 193 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: the media, you know, they got guy's phone numbers. So 194 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: someone named Matt Matt ver Duraim whatever his name is, 195 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: from Sports Illustrated, I just spoke on the phone Bill 196 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: Pollion asked whether he was an influence in Belichick being snubbed. 197 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Here's what Bill Pollion said. That's totally and categorically untrue. 198 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: I voted for him hmm. Now they don't make the 199 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 2: votes public, which I think is total chicken shit, But 200 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: that's on brand for the NFL. And now we're playing 201 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: the finger pointing game. Is Bill Pollyan perhaps being a 202 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: fall guy? Are people saying, well it was Pollion who 203 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: was Pollyan was driving? 204 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 205 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Really? Be sure? Well, we know Robert Craft has way 206 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: too much power for anybody to take him down. Then, 207 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: and I coming after Robert Craft, you can't. He's bulletproof. 208 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: He's the owner. I mean, even the scandal where he 209 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: was caught at the Roubin Tug place, he's somehow like 210 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: largely dodged embarrassing for that. I mean, folks, Craft is 211 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: a great owner. I get that. In no way, shape 212 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: or form should he be in the Hall of Fame 213 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: over Bill Belichick. He's laughable. The job of these Hall 214 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: of Fame voters, and again the votes are anonymous, is 215 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: to pick the best candidates eligible each year. And I know, 216 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: you know it becomes like this in the Heisman Trophy. Oh, 217 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: this guy's been around for several years. I'll never forget 218 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: Ron Daane. I don't think I had bet that, but 219 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: I remember, there's no way Ron Daane is the best player. 220 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: In college football. He ran for a lot of yards. 221 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: He was like a four year starter at Wisconsin, and 222 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: he rang up an unbelievable career of stats, but he 223 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: wasn't the best player in college football. And he won 224 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: the Heisman, and I joked that it was basically a 225 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: lifetime achievement award. And some people this year in the 226 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: NFL MVP voting are saying, well, listen, the media is 227 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: voting for it. They're just going to vote for Stafford because, 228 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: as everybody knows, Stafford is a long time quarterback, he's 229 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: near the end of his career, he's never won an MVP. 230 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: And Drake May Well, he's got his whole career ahead 231 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: of him. So I'm not going to vote for may 232 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: I'll vote for Stafford if it's a toss up, and 233 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: we'll kind of give it to Stafford. We'll see what 234 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: happens with that. I do believe. I do believe Stafford 235 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: will win. But this whole idea that you have to 236 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: that Belichick should pay a tax and wait a year 237 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: for spygate is fascinating and I had to go back 238 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: and look into spygate. Here here's a fun fact. The 239 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: league docked the Patriots draft picks for spy Gate, They 240 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: find the team for Spygate, they find the coach for Spygate. 241 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: But what didn't happen was a suspension. There was no suspension. 242 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: He did not miss one game, not one for Spygate. 243 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: This horrific, unbelievable atrocity. Not one game suspended. So are 244 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: we really doing this? I mean again, set up the camera? 245 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: It was the super Bowl? I know, Oh my gosh, 246 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: how can you be smirch the Super Bowl? I get that, Okay, 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't great, But if we're being completely honest, the 248 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: guy won eight super Bowls. In one of them there 249 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: was controversy. I mean, did anything else emerge any other 250 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: seven super Bowl wins? I mean, the guy goes to 251 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl all the time. Plus you had those 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: two losses. I mean, he went to ten Super Bowls 253 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: in his career, and so one of them there was 254 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: a major controversy, and because of that, we're gonna wait 255 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: to make him wait a year to get into the 256 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I don't know, guys, It's just it 257 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: doesn't feel right, you know, And I get it. There's 258 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: plenty of other really good candidates who are up, but 259 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna remind people, like over the last twenty years, 260 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: Bill Bell, twenty five, Bill Belichick did so much for 261 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: the league and the Patriots his success. But the problem 262 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: is we let these people settle scores when they're the 263 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: ones deciding awards. Hall of Fame and guess what, Oh 264 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: that guy was jerked to me. He was not nice 265 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: to me. He just was like, I can't vote for him, 266 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: and this pettiness and like punishing someone because they again Belichick, 267 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: was he a jerk? Yeah, he was a dick. He 268 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: would go to the press conferences, he'd give one and 269 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: two word answers. He was not friendly, didn't play quote 270 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: unquote play the game. And then it comes time for 271 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: the voting, and what did you know it? But all 272 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: the guys who he wasn't super nice to they have 273 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: a vote. Now, not all of them writers. There are 274 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: some writers in the room. But like, as I say, 275 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: it's pot a lot. Like I try to tell my 276 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: kids this is it's not always what you know, Sometimes 277 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: it's who you know. 278 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 279 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio 280 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 281 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: listen live. 282 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: You never know. Like I mean, you go to college, 283 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: you find out your roommate freshman year he's a super 284 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: smart guy, and next thing you know, he's creating Facebook 285 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: and you could have gotten on that just but just 286 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: by mere coincidence that he's your roommate, Bill Belichick. Imagine 287 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: your first job at a newspaper out of college and 288 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: you're covering the Patriots and Bill Pelichick's a coach, and like, 289 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: that's an amazing opportunity for you to like follow one 290 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: of the great teams, one of the great coaches, and 291 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: be a part of something special and the guys are 292 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: total complete jerk you And then guess what, twenty five 293 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: years later, you have a vote for the Hall of 294 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: Fame and you're holding a grudge against him. I mean, 295 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: we all hold grudges. It's natural. You can say you 296 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: don't hold grudges, but everyone does. Oh I've got some 297 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: small potato grudges that I'd love to talk about on here, 298 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: but I think that people listen, and I don't want to. 299 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: I can't do that. I can't get involved in that. 300 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: But I get it. You know, Spygate wasn't great. You 301 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: want to hold that against him. That's fine. I totally 302 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: get that. But if we're being honest with ourselves, like 303 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick should be a slam dunk fifty out of 304 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: fifty Hall of Fame first ballot, it should be no question. 305 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: I mean, you see what's going on in baseball with 306 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: the steroids, and the commissioner of the league knew what 307 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: was going on. It was obvious to anybody that they 308 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: were all juicing. He buried his head in the sand 309 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: so they could enjoy ratings and cultural relevance. And every 310 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: night it was Didssa, Go Yard, did Maguire, did Bonds? 311 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: Everybody loved it, and then it comes time for the 312 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame and well, no, no, no, now we're 313 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: going to slap them on the wrist. We enjoyed it 314 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: while it was happening, because hey, we got to keep 315 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: that gravy train rolling. But the second it's over and 316 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: it matters, well, Hall of Fame. I don't know about that, guys. Yeah, 317 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: So I just the Bill Belichick story really really crazy. 318 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Two other quick football tidbits. First off, I don't know 319 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: if you guys saw this, The Broncos fired their offensive 320 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: coordinator Joe Lombardi. And I have zero intel on this, 321 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: but it feels quite obvious they're passing gabe. Coordinator is 322 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: a gentleman named Davis Webb. He's a former quarterback. I 323 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: think he was a Texas tech. He is like rising 324 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: in the ranks. Everybody loves him. When you see Davis 325 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: Webb is getting interviewed for head coaching and offensive coordinator jobs, 326 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: you're like, wait, what, Davis freakin' web How he's a 327 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: passing gab coordinator? He was in the league five minutes ago. 328 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: So if you're the Broncos and you see a smart 329 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: young mind in your front office or sorry, you're coaching staff, 330 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: and next thing you know, one of these smart guys 331 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: is all of a sudden getting looks, how do you 332 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: keep him? Well, you probably go to your owner and say, hey, man, 333 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: we like Lombardi, he had a good run. Let's go 334 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: ahead and fire him and promote Davis web to OC. 335 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: Can we keep him that way? Now it'll be really well, 336 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: it won't be funny, but it'll be really interesting. If 337 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Davis Webb says, thanks, but I'm gonna go take the 338 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals head coaching job. I don't know if he's 339 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: been offered it, but these are the games that are 340 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: happening in the NFL. And I know we usually haven't 341 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: dove into coaches and offensive coordinators as much, but it 342 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: feels like a bigger and bigger story every year. I mean, 343 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: we said it a couple times. Nobody wants the Eagles 344 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: OC job. Is that because of Jalen Hurts or Nick 345 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Sirianni or both could be. And the other thing that 346 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: happened in the NFL that was moderately interesting was Joe 347 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Brady was named the Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator. He was 348 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: promoted to head coach to replace the departed mister McDermott. Now, 349 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: obviously Joe Brady loved within the building. He's thirty six 350 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: years old. Guys, thirty six. I think at thirty six, 351 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: I had I think we had one kid, maybe two. 352 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine being a head coach the NFL 353 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: at thirty six, I had sold the big lead. Yeah, 354 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: I'd sold the big lead I was working for. I 355 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 2: didn't even have a radio show at that point. My 356 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: first radio show was Yahoo Sports Radio, which was pretty 357 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: good and fun for like six months, and then I 358 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: got the Fox Sports Radio. Parlayed that to FS one. 359 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: But thirty six years old is super young to be 360 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: an NFL head coach. I'm sure he vibes with Josh Allen. 361 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Here's the thing that wasn't the problem. The defense stunk, 362 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: it got old, the roster was not very good. These 363 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: are things that Joe Brady can't fix this. Brandon Bean 364 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: think he can fix him. They're gonna hire a DC 365 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: who can fix stuff. So I don't know. I don't 366 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: have to. I'm not as high on the Bills. I'm 367 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: way higher next year on the Chargers, getting healthy at tackles, 368 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: getting Mike McDaniel a great offensive coordinator. I'm major bullish 369 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: on the Chargers. Obviously, you've got to like the odds 370 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: of of the Patriots to return. Obviously, the Ravens will 371 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 2: be pretty good, The Chiefs will be pretty good. I 372 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: think the teams that were good last year mostly will 373 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: be good again. If you were asking me, Jay, it's 374 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: no free agency, no draft yet, give me your top 375 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: seven next year. I'll go Chargers one. I will go 376 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Texans too. I will go Patriots. Three, Raven's Bengals. I'll 377 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: go Bengals. Four they have no defense, but why not five? 378 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: You could go and then the three wildcard teams. I'll 379 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: go Broncos, Bills, Jags. But oh my gosh, I picked 380 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: the exact same playoff teams and they're oh no, no, 381 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: I have Bengals in for Steelers, so I too early. Yeah, yeah, 382 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to adjust those. But for now, I 383 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: mean I don't have the Chiefs in there. I don't 384 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: have the Ravens in there. I don't think. I don't 385 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: think Mahomes is gonna be healthy in time. Maybe he 386 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: maybe proves me wrong, Patrick, but the AFC is gonna 387 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: be super interesting. The Jets are not there yet. By 388 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: the way, I did see a report that the Jets 389 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: fire their offensive coordinator, typical Jets fashion. Hey guys, let's wait, 390 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't know three weeks and change before firing our 391 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. So essentially, Aaron Glenn fired every single other 392 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: coach on the staff and he's returning, and everybody's like, well, 393 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: why didn't you just fire Glenn? Well, duh, there's no 394 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: other great candidates, and you're gonna be looking for a 395 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: new coach next year anyway, when you actually get a quarterback. Oh, football, 396 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: the gift that keeps on giving, all right, that's it 397 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: for today. Talk to you tomorrow.