WEBVTT - Bishop Briggs 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.480 The Craig Ferguson Fancy Rascal Stand Up to Her continues 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.800 throughout twenty twenty four. For a full list of dates 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:09.440 and tickets, go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.000 slash tour. See you out there, the Greig Ferguson show 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:14.480 dot com slash Tour. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.680 My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.440 is Joy. I talk to interest in people about what 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:25.560 brings them happiness. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.480 Please welcome today an artist who is emerging as one 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.280 of the most important, powerful young voices in her field. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.400 She's also well she's not Scottish, but she's Scottish. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.080 You'll see Bishop Breaks. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.240 What I'm fascinated by because you work under the name 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.000 Bishop Breaks. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.280 Yeah right, and of course what many people. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.120 Outside of Scotland may not know as Bishop Brigs a 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.279 little town school. It's very very close to where I 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.680 grew up and I think I'm probably at the same 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.119 age as your parents, right because I'm sixty one? 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Do I know them? Well? 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.000 They said the name of when when I this is 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.640 so like having parents that don't live in the US. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.160 But I sent them a message through WhatsApp, right about this, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.440 and they're like, oh, he lives in starts with a P. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:28.759 He's from prison to prison, He's from prison. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.720 He's from Pleasant. No, no, I must stay away from 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.120 him because he's he's telling you. I'm telling you, No, 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.039 I was from I was from Springburn. Okay, so springs 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.880 a P in there. There is second second letter. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.000 If you didn't get that from what I said. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.320 I did. Kind I knew where I was from even 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.600 before you started talking, so it wasn't a big deal 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.760 for me. Smart did you? You didn't grow up in Scotland. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.480 It's a shame because I think you've got a very 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.680 Scottish accent. Do you go there a lot? Do your 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.080 parents still take you there? Yeah? 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.000 That's like where I grew up going and our whole 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.560 my whole family still lives in Scotland and Meshop Briggs. Yeah, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.760 but my mom and dad actually live in Hong Kong currently. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:12.520 Just to make things a little. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:17.480 Spicy, confusing, your parents sound very international? Yes, well I 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.400 grew up very internationally. Is that what happened? 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:19.680 Okay? 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.799 So my I was born it's just going to get 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.680 very confusing. But I was born in London and I 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.760 when I was four moved to Japan, not my own 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.200 that would be a too. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:29.080 It's strange. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.600 Well have you ever seen that thing in Japanese? Steve? 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.880 Even they let four year old kids walk around? I know, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:35.280 is that beautiful? 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.160 That is a great way to describe growing up there, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.920 I will say, really yeah, just so safe and like 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:42.360 just amazing culture. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.200 And I didn't go to Japan until I was god, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:47.640 I don't know, like fifty years old or something, but 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.040 trying to go into Japan when I was young, I 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.040 wouldn't have come back. I had to go, and that stayed. 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:52.760 It's a dream. 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:54.040 It's a wonderful place. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.960 Yeah, so live there for six years and then Hong 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.679 Kong eight years. So my mom and dad are still there. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.720 All right, what is it the why are they? 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:02.400 What are they up to? 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:03.920 Yeah? What are they spies? 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:08.600 Well my dad is very charming and he does have 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.280 a gold chain that he wears every day. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:16.360 Right, Okay, but no, it was just your dad, your dad. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.960 It's so weird because you do look like everyone in 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:20.520 my family. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.919 Yes, and that's why. And I think you'll understand this too. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:29.359 I think sometimes people are like, oh my gosh, you'll 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.720 get along so well, like what a great connection, which 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.560 is true. But you put them in this category of 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.920 family very quickly. Yeah, so you overshare, which is perfect 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:40.360 for today. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.560 Well, it's I'm not going to make you overshare. I don't. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.520 I don't want you to feed. Don't you don't feel guarded. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.360 You're not making me overshare. Your freckles are oh yeah, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.040 you know what I mean, Like the features are. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:49.480 Yeah. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.680 I think when you get into your sexties, they're not 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:56.680 freckles anymore. I think they're just like there's age, it's 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.760 not freckle as a young person's game. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.120 And I think now it's just like liver spots and stuff. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.560 Oh my god, it's bad. But listen, so you go by, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.680 you go to Scotland a lot. Then, yes, did you 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:13.040 listen to Scottish artists? You have a very dramatic and 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:18.920 big sound. As an artist, you're very intensely emotional. Your 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.479 your music is very emotional and very powerful, and I 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.320 wondered if there was any influence from Scotland in there. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.520 Well, I will say growing up in Japan, I mean 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.600 there's influence from Scotland in the sense that my mum 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.480 and dad were obsessed with music, right, and so we 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.960 would go to karaoke bars, which at the time wasn't 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.080 weird being in a bar at that age, But. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.279 No, I still think karaoke is okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.560 And so that's where really where like I became obsessed 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.800 with music and got really into motown music and yeah, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.960 and there was like this gospel choir teacher that appeared 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:57.680 at my school. 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.000 That makes sense with how you how you ended up 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.800 as an artist or where you are right now is 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.719 an urbist anyway, because you are very It's it's big. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.679 It's like it's almost religious the stuff you do, isn't it. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:13.920 So I played a show in Scotland. I want to 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.920 remember the place, really small place, but it's so iconic, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:17.720 like every. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.479 There you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the place. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:28.440 Every like famous comedian has played there, yeah, everybody. But 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.800 what I didn't know and my dad told me after 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.680 because of course, you know, he came to the show, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.359 which I'm so glad for, was it's quite an infamous 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:37.520 place where they will tell. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:38.680 You if they don't like you. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.119 At Glasgow, they will tell you sure. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.360 And just when you were asking if there was any 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.760 influence from Scotland, I was performing this is like the 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.200 first song and there's a little bit of a build up. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.240 I hear the crowd saying something, but I don't recognize 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:57.880 what they're saying. It's not a lyric. It's sort of 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.160 like in between each lyric and they're going. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.920 Here, we here, we here, we fucking. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:11.200 Gold obsessed and anyways, I will say that energy of 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:12.880 like we're going to give our all, We're going to 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:13.960 put it all on the table. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.880 We are super present that I really relate to in 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:18.760 terms of music. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.680 I feel that that entry very a great description of 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.640 the Scottish audience as well. I started out when I 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.000 was doing stand up with Scottish audiences. And the thing 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.240 is about it what you describe is perfectly accurate that 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.120 it is. It's about how present they are. So it's 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.560 not that they're tough, it's just that they won't let 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.080 you get away with it. They're there, yes, and they 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.760 will be participating in the show, so you better be 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.480 as well. Yes, And I think that it's it's a 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:46.800 fascinating place. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.559 I don't live there anymore. I live in Hong Kong. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.040 Where do you live now? 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.039 I live in la. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:57.920 In Los Angeles? 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:58.920 Yeah, what about you? 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.320 I lived in Los ange Liz for twenty three years. Okay, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.279 have you had a place called New York. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.720 No, it's a little time in the East Coast. It's 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.960 kind of a fishing village. It sounds interesting if you 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.840 like the smell of weed and peepee when you walk 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.760 around weed and peepee and peepee. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.800 Yeah, that's actually what I felt when I hugged you. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.320 I said, oh, weed and peepee. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:27.200 Woh no, way, come on, I'm no longer your father. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:32.200 I don't. I don't have a daughter anymore. Peepe peep. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.040 First of all, I don't I smoked weed in years. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.120 Do you smoke weeds? 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:36.640 I don't. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.680 Oh no, I've done it. Okay, I'll tell you something quick. Okay, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.760 you went to the dentist. It's a first mistake. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.160 Why don't go? 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.480 Don't go? Law? 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.880 Well yeah, same now Scottish. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:53.640 It's the kind of thing. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.560 Well, so I go to the dentist and they're like, okay, amazing. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.280 So how long have you been chained smoking? 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.160 For yes? 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:04.000 And I'm a vocalist, not that that excuses anything, but 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.200 so I was never into cigarettes, never smoked weed. Like 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.560 I was like, this is my thing, right, I need 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:14.040 to protect my vocals. But it really is like British teeth. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:15.800 Scottish you know, it's a thing. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:16.600 You have a baby? 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:17.480 Yeah? 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.080 Was it? Actually you're pregnant, Yes, yeah, it's a pregnancy. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.000 You're kidding. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.400 No, it happened to my wife too, really yeah, yeah 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.640 yeah yeah? When what was it? I don't know. There's 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.320 something affects your teeth. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.480 I think sometimes some women and my wife she's not Scottish, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.920 but our background is Scottish. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.400 Like, yes, And when our youngest was born, she. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.240 Because she's got like American teeth, like you know, and 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.160 she had to get like she had cavities for the 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.760 first time and I had to get her wizen teeth 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:43.000 out and. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.960 All that stuff. Okay, so it's the baby. It's nothing. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.360 It's not Scottish teeth. Okay, yeah, how about your baby? 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:50.840 Needless, he's a year and a half. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.680 Oh my god, are you getting any sleep? No? 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.280 No, Well, honestly, right at this exact moment, I'm not 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.760 because do you know about this thing? Well, it's it's 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.400 way too boring. I definitely don't want to talk about it. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.280 But it's the twenty month sleep regression. It's like this 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:07.360 infamous thing. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.880 Is this anything sounds familiar? I didn't know there was 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.960 a name for it. But I had two children that 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.920 growing growing up. Well, the youngest one's thirteen, but they're 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:16.920 still they're growing up. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.080 There was a reason I was going to bring up 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.719 the teeth though it was related to something. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.959 Because your baby's teething, maybe is that what's happening. No, 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.400 it was before for the child is chain smoking and weed, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.480 and yeah, I was so went there you go, father, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:32.800 But I still listened to you. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.880 But when he asked that, I instead of being like, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.320 oh no, like I don't do those things, I was like, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:42.000 I've smoked the weed three times in my life and 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.920 so unnecessary. And you could see he was just like, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.440 I'm going to vomit, Like this is way too much information. 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.920 But so I have done it three times in my 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.720 life and I like three times. I cleaned my apartment 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.760 during it, and it was very, very positive experience. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.600 I did no care for weed at all. I mean 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.280 I took all the drugs, yeah, and the drink. I 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.960 took it all. And I hated weed the most. Weed 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.880 and speed were the two that I hated. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.079 Oh my god, I want to know all. I want 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.959 to know all your stories. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.440 I've never done drugs, you know what I think now, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.040 I think that is by far. Like when I was 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.120 doing drugs, I haven't done drugs now going thirty two years. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:20.480 Wow. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.079 Right, yeah, so I was younger than you are now 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.320 when I quit, right, And there was no phananel when 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.080 I was a kid, That's what I was going to say, right, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.040 so there wasn't like that so scary now, oh my god, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.960 like just you take it and you're dad, right. I 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.200 think I would a I don't know if i'd have 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.079 made it through that, right, because you can just you 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:41.960 just take crap that's lying around. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:42.880 Terrifying. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:43.920 Yeah, it's awful. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.640 So I'm glad to hear you don't do drugs, me 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.800 and your father and your mother because we've all been 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:49.400 talking on. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.360 What's that exactly, know WhatsApp group you say that's coming 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.559 in to find that they don't call you beshop? 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.120 Do they know they call me Sarah because so my 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.640 full name is Sara I McLaughlin. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.439 I knew that, which I can't use of course because. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.000 The beautiful there. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.480 Yeah, it was just like it wasn't really you are 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.560 fucking Scottish girl. You've got a fucking attitude of a 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.320 Scottish girl. You got way with nothing. I got away 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.040 with nothing going home. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:19.679 Oh my god. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.839 Right, So so you don't do the drugs and you. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.480 Don't do the drag because you said my mom and 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.400 daughter are listening right, So yeah, never done. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.959 No, but I actually have. I haven't I had. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.959 I don't get that vibe from you would were you're 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.880 drawing into music right away with you because you said 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.160 like your parents were obsessed with music. Yes, people of 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.360 especially Glaswegian specially Briggs of our generation me and your parents' generation. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.160 The music was everything, yes, everything. Yeah, it was all 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.959 music all the time, and American music mostly. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.959 And the shows that my dad went to, like it 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.400 was like, oh led Zeppelin came through. I'm like what, 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.040 You're just incredible everybody right, yes, yes, that's where he went. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:55.480 Yeah. 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.640 I saw Queen there like three times on the Sheer 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.319 Heart Tack album, and I mean it's like it's like 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.200 right at the beginning slash there, So I mean. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.920 It's there, you know, I mean it's I mean, if 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.160 you that'd be crazy. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.800 I love to meet. We probably have, especially if he's 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.719 charming with a gold chain. I bet you. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:16.040 I know. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:17.800 Well, his nickname is Cheeky Charlie. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:26.240 Wait, Cheeky Charlie for Bishops. I'm pretty sure. I know, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:28.600 I might even know money. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.679 I know you're joking, but there's a part of it 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:32.319 that feels real. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.160 It doesn't feel real. This is what's freaking me the 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:36.600 I think. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.920 But look, I bet ask your dad, like as your 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.760 mom and dad did they go to Maestros. Maestross is 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.040 another club they would have gone. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.800 Oh my god, I bet you are saying things that 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.240 are really ringing a bell because that's one of the 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.000 places that they went to together. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:56.720 I performed there with an actor from Bishop Briggs. What, Yeah, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.640 you know the actor of Peter Capaldi. Yes, Peters from 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:00.360 Bishop Briggs. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:01.480 Oh, I didn't know that. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.920 And I were in a band together when we were 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.160 eighteen nineteen years old as a drummer. Peter was a 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.079 singer Peers from Bishop Briggs and I'm from how I 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.400 grew up in Common All but I'm from Springbourne and 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.240 my mom used to work for his dad at the 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:16.680 ice cream pa. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.959 Oh my god, I know. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.520 Anyway, so we used to perform there. So I bet 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:28.600 cheeky Charlie Bishop Briggs so has performing Oh yeah, that's crazy. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.599 Wow, it's really interesting too. Like I I was just 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.439 listening to something on the way over. I don't know, 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.520 I don't know why I can't revew am I not 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.079 going to? What was it? 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:40.720 That's cuzy, You've got it base. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.120 It's this very provocative, sort of fun podcast called the 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.200 Canceled Podcast. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:46.720 All right. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.640 They were talking about really finding their way with being 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.560 on stage and and these two people, you know, they've 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.240 kind of turned into moguls, but they really at their 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.800 core are entertainers. You know, even if it's just them 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.200 talking on a stage, you know, people are there, they're 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:07.520 drawn in, right, And they were talking about different things 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.600 that they did growing up, you know, even like eighteen 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.559 onwards whatever, Right, different things they did to find what 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.080 they liked to do. But it actually was all under 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.920 the umbrella of entertaining, and some of it fell. Oh, 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.720 I don't know why. I don't really like this feeling. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:27.480 And it's just interesting where your life took you and 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.360 what you you know, you're on stage playing drums, right, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.400 but you do comedy, But do you do a talk show? 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:34.560 You know? 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.000 It's like, but you find your thing as you go. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:37.440 You do. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.000 I think though that I I was talking to someone 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.080 with this recent actually because I've never been able to 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.160 find what I do. I don't really do I do. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.160 I do whatever I do, But basically I guess it 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.680 goes back to stand up and really stand up. I 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.200 think stand up is a musician's discipline. True stand ups. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.720 I'm not talking about. There's a different type of stand 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.880 up now. There's those short form like forty five second 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.800 stuff or social media, and it's not any less valid. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.080 It's just a different thing, different thing. Yeah, But what 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.200 I do is a kind of long form, live thing. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.160 That's what I do. Yes, and it has a I 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.800 do it like a show and a lot of stand ups, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.840 you know, old timey stand ups that I'm friends with, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.360 Jay Leno or you know people who who do it 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.000 like that. They think like musicians. Robin Williams always say 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.040 that as well. It's like jazz. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.320 So it's just you know, it's just you got your 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.000 improvis Did you watch his documentary? 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.640 I did not, but oh it's so good. But we 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.000 were we were friends. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.480 Okay, Well it's very inspiring. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.360 Yeah, but he was very inspiring. Man. Were you interested 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:44.200 in comedy at all? 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:44.960 Comedy? 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:45.120 No? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.200 No, well I didn't even think too. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.280 Well, it's I don't know if you grew up in Japan, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.080 it's not. Is it culturally a thing in Japan? Would 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.800 you see it? You speak Japanese? 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.080 Okay, So in Japan I just relied on cuteness, you know. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.440 That's how I got around. Cute, cute, so I didn't 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.920 have to do anything. In Hong Kong, I learned Mandarin 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.040 and Cantonese and studied French, so a bit all over 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.000 the place. Oh, I think it's good what I was 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.680 going to say though, And I wonder if you feel 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.320 this too. It's very humbling when your whole family's from Scotland, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.520 because there's you don't actually think you're funny. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.000 Because everyone is. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:20.080 Everyone's funny. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.400 Everyone is funny and also like at times ten times funnier, 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.320 and they're like, no, I work at the bakery. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:27.760 Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.000 So I'm impressed that you you I know exactly the 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.520 area that you're from, right, and I'm impressed that you've 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.760 still you know, went forward. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.600 You know, well, I just ran away. That's what it 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.360 was a fuck because everything else was funnier but smart. Yeah, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:51.360 I mean yeah, Lewis Capaldi, who's Peter's nephew. Everybody's related, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.640 like you're my daughter. I mean well my brother. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.240 it's all. It's all. It's all part of the same 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.400 five millions Scottish people, right, and that's enough though you 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:04.480 don't want any more than that. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:05.440 That's not true. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:11.639 Oh, that's way more than enough. The Craig Ferguson Fancy 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.200 Rascals Stand Up Tour continues throughout the United States in 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.200 twenty twenty four. For a full list of dates and tickets, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.200 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:29.119 So you are there, listen. I want to talk to 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.880 you about the music though, because your music is singular 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.639 in the sense that it has a well I was 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.960 talking about earlier. But the drama and the and the 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:39.080 kind of the. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.680 Bigness of you as an artist that at thirty is 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.479 quite that's where you are right at the thirty years old. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.320 It's huge. So what were you listening to when you 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.240 were a teenager when you were coming through. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.200 I was listening to Aretha Franklin. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.320 Okay, edit, James, Yeah, it makes sense. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:54.040 Oh it is reading. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.040 Yes, But then there was the whole angle of like 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:00.720 Queen Janis Joplin, so McJagger, you know, it's there was 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.840 still that performative aspect. 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.800 I've never seen you live. Are you very well? 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:06.760 Did you have to come to a show? 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.159 Yeah, I would love to come to Well. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.000 I go crazy on stage, really, Oh yeah, I'm running 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.680 non stop, jumping up and down like laying on the ground. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.320 I love it crazy. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:16.879 You know. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:18.680 I worked with Mike Jagger for a while. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:19.280 What. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.439