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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, everybody, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: is the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us here this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: And so we motor our way into the off season,

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Speaker 2: and you know, slowly but surely, some important off season

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Speaker 2: dates will pop up on the schedule. We're only a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks away from heading out to Indianapolis for

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Speaker 2: the NFL Combine. We'll have franchise and transition tags handed out,

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Speaker 2: although I'm not sure there's gonna be a ton of

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Speaker 2: those this year. We'll see there's usually half a dozen

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Speaker 2: to a dozen inevitably get put out there. But that

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Speaker 2: will begin the off season, and then March twelfth, we're

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Speaker 2: already starting a new league here in free agency, so

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Speaker 2: it's gonna come quick.

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Speaker 3: There'll be some trades happening. But like, for instance, I've

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Speaker 3: been doing some diving into the Miles Garrett situation, because

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Speaker 3: when every time you got a star player wants out,

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Speaker 3: they kind of accommodate them.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's your.

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Speaker 3: I mean not all like Wago Samuel stuck around San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: Brandan Ayuk didn't move.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know this this Miles Garrett thing, really

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Speaker 3: it's gonna happen. There's only he says he wants to

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Speaker 3: go to a you know, contender, wants to win.

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Speaker 4: A super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Not his choice though he's I think all that means

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Speaker 3: is he wants out no matter what.

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Speaker 4: If he's willing to go to the mat.

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Speaker 3: If this trade for Miles Garrett is not gonna happen

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Speaker 3: until just before training camp.

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Speaker 1: Oh you think it's gonna go that long?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now they might agree to it or whatever, but

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be finalized until training camp because of

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Speaker 3: the numbers. Well yeah, and he's gonna he's got two

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Speaker 3: years left on a five year deal, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know how adamant he's gonna be if he gives a

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Speaker 3: him if it worked, because you can get the cap

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Speaker 3: that's doable in today's day and age of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be late.

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Speaker 3: And if if you're that kind of team, the compensation

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Speaker 3: would be here's what you like if you're a team

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Speaker 3: like Buffalo, you're gonna are you gonna extend him and

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Speaker 3: you want to keep your cap down if you get

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Speaker 3: him and redo the deal. You're talking thirty five million

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Speaker 1: Right, you can backload it or and reduce his figure, or.

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Speaker 3: You can take him for the next two years. You

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Speaker 3: got him, and then franchise and hope he stays happy.

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Speaker 3: If you can keep winning, keep giving him a swing

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Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, I don't think he's I don't think

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Speaker 2: Most players of that caliber, though, usually get a new deal.

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Speaker 1: Usually.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Over the last five or six years, you've had guys

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Speaker 3: move Khalil mat remember Khalil Mack back in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: I think he was twenty six when he moved though, right,

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Speaker 2: Well that's twenty nine, yes, but.

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Speaker 1: He still has top of the league production.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they got two first twenty nineteen first rounder,

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Speaker 3: So then you go to the Laramie to Tunsil deal.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that happens, though, But I'm telling you, I

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Speaker 2: Well, none of us thought that Carson Wentz was gonna

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Speaker 3: So I'm just saying that just proves the point that

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Speaker 3: get rid of him. Yeah, take the cap hit, right.

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Speaker 2: And as we've discussed, it's very hard for your locker

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Speaker 1: That's why, especially when it's one of the best players

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make light of it because we've

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Speaker 4: It kills you.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a sickness that is in your

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Speaker 4: It is a sickness, and it's that's.

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Speaker 3: Why they don't want any part of it.

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Speaker 4: It's just thirty million. They're talking.

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Speaker 3: You're getting hit with thirty million dollars cap hits now

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Speaker 2: I think that is going to make our combine coverage

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Speaker 1: Conversations are going to be had.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I think that's kind of where some

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Speaker 3: This seems like a fresh conversation to me that we've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington has a lot of cap space and they

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Speaker 3: They're good already, So I mean, you can go from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: couple of things have transpired in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: According to ESPN reports, the Bills have hired veteran Chris

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Speaker 2: official from the Bills yet. Tabor a sixteen year NFL

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Speaker 2: He has been a special teams coordinator for the Bears, Browns,

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Speaker 2: So you think about some of the previous special teams

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Speaker 3: That doesn't happen unless you get a huge vote of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think probably a nod to making sure

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Speaker 4: In a large way.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear that conversation between those two about

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Speaker 2: I think he wants some things buttoned up. There were

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Speaker 2: end of the Rams game, right, you know, deficiencies in

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Speaker 4: You know, there are too many men on the field.

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Speaker 2: Signing news for the roster, the Bills resigned jumbo package

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Speaker 2: and refortify their rosters for the upcoming campaign in the fall.

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Speaker 2: So we'll catch up with her in just about ten

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Speaker 2: minutes time. Also want to lay out our topic of

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Speaker 2: discussion with you today.

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Speaker 1: Who is the most.

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Speaker 2: Important young talent on the Bill's roster right now? We're

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Speaker 2: talking about guys that are under twenty six years of

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Speaker 2: age here, twenty six and under. We're not talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know, older core players like Dion Dawkins or even

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Who is the most important young talent on

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Speaker 2: the Bills roster right now? And it could be somebody

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Speaker 2: that you think is going to take a leap in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and all of a sudden be a major,

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Speaker 2: major contributor. Or it might be one who's a major

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Speaker 2: contributor already, but you let us know who you think

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Speaker 2: that is, who is the most important young talent on

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Speaker 2: the Bill's roster right now that will be instrumental in

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Speaker 2: their fortunes going forward. Eight oh three zero, five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight, eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 2: those are the numbers to jump on board with us,

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Speaker 2: and we do have open lines for you right now. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: if you don't have a chance to give us a

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Speaker 2: phone call, you can hit us up on the tweets

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Speaker 2: sheet at one Bill's Live. And I think there are

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Speaker 2: a handful of people to pick from here, Steve, because

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Speaker 2: there is a pretty impressive young, youthful corps from the

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Speaker 2: last couple of draft classes that you could point to,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'll I mean, there are some obvious ones,

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Speaker 2: but I think there are also some ones that were

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Speaker 2: singled out in the season wrap up press conference, like

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Speaker 2: a player like Dalton kin Kaid, who played injured in

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Speaker 2: his second year on the heels of a seventy three

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Speaker 2: catch team record season.

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Speaker 1: For a tight end.

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Speaker 2: You know, knee injuries compromise his effectiveness here this year,

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Speaker 2: but I think that guy is critical to the future

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Speaker 2: of this team's passing game going forward.

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Speaker 1: And what have we seen.

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Speaker 2: In several previous examples of young players on this roster,

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Speaker 2: the blossoming in year three, which it will be for

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Speaker 2: Kinkaid next year. What do you want to talk about

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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown blossoming in year three, Dawson Knox blossoming in

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Speaker 2: year three, Tarren Johnson blossoming in year three. There have

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Speaker 2: been a lot of examples of guys who have taken

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Speaker 2: off in year three. And if King Caid can do that,

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Speaker 2: I think that could be a force multiplier for the

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Speaker 2: passing game again.

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Speaker 3: And I would say probably for me, one of the

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Speaker 3: young players, it's got to be a guy on it's

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Speaker 3: stilling his rookie deal for me to put him on

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Speaker 3: as a young player, and that goes all the way

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Speaker 3: down through guys. Well, you know Khalil Shakir would fall

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Speaker 3: into that almost right. Certainly, James Cook is one of

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Speaker 3: those guys, Ty Johnson, Ray Davis, you know, cole Bishop,

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Speaker 3: Joel Andresen, all these guys, dorianon Keon, Coleman, Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 3: It's there's an of young players on this roster. And

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Speaker 3: I would also you got to put Christian Benford on

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Speaker 3: that list. Who is who is for a lot of

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Speaker 3: this season was playing at an elite cornerback level in

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 4: He was up in the.

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Speaker 3: Advanced analytics had him right up at the top two

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Speaker 3: or three guys in the league for targets and proximity

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Speaker 3: and completion percentage quarterback rating when targeted the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: He was playing at an an elite level for a

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Speaker 3: large chunk of this season.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 3: I tend to lean towards the offensive side of the

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Speaker 3: ball from this, and I'll say, and I still think

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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir is probably the most important guy because it's

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Speaker 3: a throwing league and you got a quarterback who's an MVP.

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Speaker 4: But there's some other guys, you got.

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Speaker 2: It, there are others you have to consider, which is

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Speaker 2: why we pose the topic to you today. So eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty, he was the most important

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Speaker 2: young talent on the Bills roster.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you let us know there.

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Speaker 2: We do have to take a break here, though we

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Speaker 2: will answer your phone calls shortly. But coming up next,

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Speaker 2: NFL Media senior national columnist Judy Bautista is going to

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Speaker 2: join us as we take a look into the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five off season. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right.

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Speaker 2: Back here on one Bill's Live on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and happy to welcome in NFL

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Speaker 2: Media senior national columnist Judy Bautista, who is fresh off

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Speaker 2: covering anything and everything NFL down in the big Easy

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Speaker 2: during Super Bowl Week. She's back in her humble abode

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Speaker 2: finally after you know, pounding the pavement for seven days

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Speaker 2: at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: No easy task. But Judy, thanks for the time. First

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Speaker 1: of all.

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Speaker 2: Second, I wanted to begin now that the head coaching

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Speaker 2: cycle has to a conclusion. You know, Kellen Moore filling

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Speaker 2: the final spot, and I'm sure you were hearing any

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Speaker 2: and all of the reports that that was just a

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Speaker 2: fade out complete it was going to happen after the Super.

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Speaker 4: Bowl was over.

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Speaker 2: How do you look at the hirings and who do

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Speaker 2: you think really hit it out of the park in

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Speaker 2: this group?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think let's start in the AFC East. I

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Speaker 6: thought New England. You know, I think it was maybe

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Speaker 6: a bit of a surprise that they asked drug Mayo

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Speaker 6: after only one season, but it was clear immediately that

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Speaker 6: they were targeting Rabel and he was to me the

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Speaker 6: most attractive candidate out there. And that's nothing against like

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Speaker 6: Ben Johnson, who was a very attractive candidate. But Rabel,

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Speaker 6: you know, has experience as a head coach and has

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Speaker 6: had success as a head coach, and especially had success

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Speaker 6: in Tennessee as a head coach even without having dominant

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Speaker 6: quarterback play, and that made him.

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Speaker 7: He's also the sort of the buzzword is like a

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Speaker 7: culture guy.

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Speaker 6: He's a culture guy, and New England needed that, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they sort of lacked discipline. They also lack talent.

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Speaker 6: I mean they're going to have to rebuild that roster.

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Speaker 6: But I thought that was a home run higher. I

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Speaker 6: thought the Bears getting Ben Johnson to team him and

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Speaker 6: develop Caleb Williams was a very good higher and very

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Speaker 6: good news for Caleb. You know, I like the Aaron

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Speaker 6: Glenn higher at the Jets. He's a first time head

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Speaker 6: coach and they've also got a first time general manager now.

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Speaker 6: But I covered Aaron Glenn when he was a player

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Speaker 6: for the Jets, and he's definitely a culture guy. He's

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Speaker 6: a culture guy the way Bill Parcels was a culture

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Speaker 6: guy at Parcels is one of his mentors, and the

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Speaker 6: Jets really needed that, and so I like that higher.

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Speaker 6: But you know, as you guys know, like I feel

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Speaker 6: like we say this every coaching cycle, like you think

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Speaker 6: the fit is good, and then you have to see

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Speaker 6: how things pan out, Like Dan Quinn was, you know,

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Speaker 6: was sort of felt like an afterthought higher in Washington.

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Speaker 6: And look what happened to Washington this year. So it's

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Speaker 6: going to take a little while to play out. And

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Speaker 6: in a lot of these cases, I think, you know,

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Speaker 6: you're seeing really rebuilding teams, so it's really going to.

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Speaker 7: Take a while.

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Speaker 3: And then these then the two the two strangest things.

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Speaker 3: One in Jacksonville, it was not strange that Liam Cohen

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Speaker 3: was hired, but the way it happened, and the fact

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Speaker 3: that they had trouble getting somebody to say yes to

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Speaker 3: being a head coach in the National Football League before

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Speaker 3: they made a change at the general manager spot. Then

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Speaker 3: they got their guy. Then they you know, that seemed

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Speaker 3: a little bit backward. And of course then in Dallas,

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Speaker 3: where you know, job one is getting along with the

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Speaker 3: owner rather than being a head coach. I mean, those

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Speaker 3: two jobs Jacksonville and Dallas really were the ones that

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Speaker 3: you know, were like people shrugging, like I will see,

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Speaker 3: like you said, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Jacksonville situation as soon as they fired Doum Peterson,

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Speaker 6: which I think, you know, the handwriting was on the

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Speaker 6: wall there for a little while during the regular season.

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Speaker 6: But when Shod Khan, the owner, said he was going

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Speaker 6: to retain general manager Trent Balk, everybody sort of said like, oh, that's.

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Speaker 7: Not going to be good.

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Speaker 6: That's going to limit your pool of candidates because there

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Speaker 6: are you know, coaches are not going to want to

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Speaker 6: He's got a reputation, he's over the years as sort

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Speaker 6: of a polarizing figure, and they obviously hadn't had great

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Speaker 6: success with him as a GM, and so the question was, well,

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Speaker 6: why are you retaining him? And then you're going to

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Speaker 6: force a new head coach to work with somebody who

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Speaker 6: does not have a tremendous track record. And so as

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Speaker 6: soon as they saw the pool of candidates drying up

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Speaker 6: and they really wanted Liam Cohen, and Cohen said Nope,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to stay in Tampa.

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Speaker 7: They pulled the plug on Trent Bulk and.

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Speaker 6: Then Liam Cohen did the reverse and went to Jacksonville,

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Speaker 6: the people and Tampa weren't very happy with him. But frankly,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can't blame a guy for pursuing a

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Speaker 6: head coaching job. There's not many of them. And the

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Speaker 6: Dallas situation is Dallas. I mean, they marched to the

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Speaker 6: beat of their own drummer and the drummers Jerry Jones, and.

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Speaker 7: You know he.

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Speaker 6: Certainly continuity for the sake of Dak Prescott I think

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Speaker 6: was emphasized here and that was important. But did they

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Speaker 6: upgrade it coach from Mike McCarthy. I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: And as you pointed out, like you've got to be

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Speaker 6: able to work in what is a very unique place.

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Speaker 6: I thought the most interesting thing that came out of

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Speaker 6: the Dallas situation was Troy Aikman, of all people, saying,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if this is that attractive a job.

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Speaker 7: That says a lot.

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Speaker 2: And while Jacksonville was an extenuating circumstance because Shad Khan

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Speaker 2: had to throw it into fifth year acts as GM

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Speaker 2: to try to land a coach and the coach comes first,

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Speaker 2: there were other instances in this hiring cycle where teams

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Speaker 2: made a point to nail down the head coach, even

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Speaker 2: though they also had a GM opening, and we don't

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Speaker 2: always see that. The Jets did it with Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 2: hiring him first, the Raiders did it with Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: hiring him before the general manager. Is there anything to

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Speaker 2: be gleaned from that in terms of what NFL clubs

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Speaker 2: deem as job one, because I mean, GM jobs used

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Speaker 2: to be the one. Let's fill that first and make

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Speaker 2: sure that guy's in lockstep with the coach.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see that in all cases this offseason.

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Speaker 6: We didn't, and I think it just sort of depends

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Speaker 6: on how you know you're going to structure your building. Clearly,

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Speaker 6: I think there is more and more of an emphasis

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Speaker 6: on the coach has to have a significant say in

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Speaker 6: what the roster is going to look like, right like

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Speaker 6: the old Bill Purcell's like, if I'm going to you know,

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Speaker 6: I need if I'm going to cook the meal, I

648
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Speaker 6: need to shop for the groceries too. They're not giving

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Speaker 6: the head coach complete control. This is not a Bill

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Speaker 6: Belichick situation, but there's an acknowledgment that the head coach

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Speaker 6: is going to have to have a significant say in

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Speaker 6: roster decisions, and so you better have alignment there and again,

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Speaker 6: which is what we saw happened in Jacksonville, that those

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Speaker 6: shotgun marriages, you know, sometimes don't work and they're just

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Speaker 6: not in alignment. And so you want the head. If

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Speaker 6: you've got your eye on a head coach, you go

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Speaker 6: and get him. And then you get a general manager

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Speaker 6: who has a relationship with him or who is aligned

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Speaker 6: in the vision with him. We'll see if it makes

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Speaker 6: any difference, Does it work better or worse?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: The case of the Raiders, you know, Pete Carroll is

663
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 6: obviously a very good hire right, a very good track record,

664
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 6: very much the ultimate culture guy, and that's a place

665
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 6: that needs a culture reset. To me, the interesting thing

666
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 6: is going to be that Tom Brady is a very

667
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 6: active minority owner there, and it sounds like Mark Davis

668
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 6: is going to want to run all significant decisions about

669
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 6: the team through Brady, including the quarterback decision. So I'm

670
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 6: really interested to see how that power structure works there.

671
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Speaker 3: Which of these and there's six of them, I don't

672
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: know if you've got them off the top of your head.

673
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: The Jets, Jaguars, Cowboys, Saints, Raiders, New England.

674
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Speaker 4: There we are.

675
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Speaker 3: If you can see that graphic cat. You know, who's

676
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: got the chance and not certainly the Patriots have the

677
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: most assets and maybe a quarterback in house. Who's got

678
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: the best chance to make it go in this first year?

679
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: Who's going to go if these teams are all considered

680
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: finger quotes worse, who's going to go from worse to first?

681
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 8: Well?

682
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if the Bears can go from Worster first,

683
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 6: but they do have some talent there and they've got

684
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: what they think is the quarterback, so I would say

685
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 6: they have now they have. They're in a tough division,

686
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: but I think the Bears have a chance.

687
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 7: To improve quite dramatically.

688
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 6: I think New England can improve, but New England really

689
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 6: needs to work on the roster. They don't have much

690
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: firepower to help out Drake May. They need help on

691
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: the offensive line. So many teams need help on the

692
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 6: offensive line. So I think the Patriots will improve. I

693
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Speaker 6: don't know how much, And obviously they are in a

694
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Speaker 6: division with the Buffalo Bills, so it's going to be

695
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 6: hard to get that high up.

696
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Speaker 7: But those are the teams I would say that.

697
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Speaker 6: You know, if I had to pick, like, who's got

698
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 6: the best chance to have a Washington commander's type of season.

699
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Speaker 7: I guess those would be.

700
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Speaker 6: The ones I would say, although you know, I don't

701
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 6: know if anybody is if there's a draft pick this

702
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 6: year who can have the kind of impact that Jayden

703
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: Daniels in Washington, which was just you know, extraordinary.

704
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: Looking at Commissioner Goodell's State of the League address so

705
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: soon on the heels of the AFC title game, Bills

706
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: fans were glued to his commentary regarding the future of

707
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: ball spotting after some controversial ones in that game that

708
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: drew the ire of Bills fans for about a week

709
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: worth of time.

710
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Speaker 1: We took a lot of the phone calls Judy here

711
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Speaker 1: as you can.

712
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Speaker 2: Imagine, what do you and look we understand and he

713
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: was good at outlining the limitations as to why the

714
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: hawkeye technology has not been implemented yet because of the

715
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Speaker 2: sea of humanity that is often around the football, unlike

716
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Speaker 2: you know, inline technology in tennis or goal line technology

717
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: in soccer. But where do you feel the league is

718
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: going to land on this in terms of implementation in

719
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Speaker 2: the regular season, knowing they tried it in the preseason

720
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Speaker 2: last year and ran into some snags.

721
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Speaker 6: Right, I think, you know, that they use preseason games

722
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Speaker 6: to sort of test out things and see how it goes.

723
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Speaker 6: And I think they'll continue to do that with all technology,

724
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 6: not just the spotting of the ball, but you know,

725
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Speaker 6: replaces all the uses of technology that they have available

726
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: to them. There's a lot of it's more complicated when

727
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 6: you're trying to use more technology in a game than

728
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Speaker 6: we might think. As you pointed out, I mean the

729
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: commissioner said, like you know, when you're at the bottom

730
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 6: of a pile, there's no way to really tell where

731
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Speaker 6: that ball is until you clear it out, and is

732
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Speaker 6: the ball moving. It's not the same as like is

733
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Speaker 6: the serve in or out?

734
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Speaker 7: In tennis?

735
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Speaker 6: Like here, like where the heck is the ball in that?

736
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 6: Do you have any idea where the ball.

737
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Speaker 7: Is right now? So there's that.

738
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Speaker 6: The other problem is stadium configurations are all different. They're

739
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 6: playing more and more games internationally, those configurations are different.

740
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 6: Like there's just a real problem creating consistency. And that

741
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: is the number one thing they want in officiating. When

742
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 6: they talk about officiating, all officiating is consistency. They want

743
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 6: consistency across crews, consistently and see across stadiums and so

744
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 6: That's why. I you know, like it's just not a well,

745
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 6: this technology is available, snap your fingers, let's use it.

746
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 6: It's just not that simple. I do think they will.

747
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 6: I would expect that we'll see more use of technology

748
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 6: in the preseason as they try to test these things out,

749
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 6: and then eventually we'll get to a point.

750
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Speaker 7: But I don't think we're all the way there yet.

751
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Speaker 3: Have you have you heard any rumblings about expanding the

752
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: powers of the official in the sky Iron Sky, the

753
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Speaker 3: official up in the booth.

754
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Speaker 7: Yeah, replay assist.

755
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Speaker 6: I think we're going to see more plays the subject

756
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Speaker 6: to replay assist. The commissioner in particular mentioned face masks.

757
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: You know, there were some I felt pretty noticeable ones

758
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 6: during the regular season that were missed or ones that

759
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 6: were that were called that really weren't.

760
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 7: Face masks, so and that's a pretty big penalty.

761
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Speaker 6: So I think that's going to become subject to replay assist.

762
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 6: The question about replay assist is, I mean, theoretically you

763
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 6: could have a lot of play subject to replay assist.

764
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 6: The big question is will owners be comfortable using replay

765
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 6: assists to put more flags on the field. Right now,

766
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 6: you only use replay assist right if a penalty has

767
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 6: already been called on the field.

768
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 7: Right and you look at it.

769
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 6: They have traditionally shied away from that, from using like

770
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Speaker 6: an eye in the sky to put more flags on

771
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Speaker 6: the field.

772
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 7: They don't want, you know, some like a big.

773
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 6: Brother behind the scenes usurping the power of the officiating

774
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 6: crew on the field. So the question is, again, as

775
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 6: the technology gets better and better, and as you know,

776
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: as at home and in the stadium, you see so

777
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 6: many more slow mode replays, and as the game is

778
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 6: getting faster and faster, is it better to use more

779
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 6: replay asists.

780
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Speaker 7: The Commissioner spent an awful lot of time super Bowl.

781
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 6: Week defending officiating and making the point like the game

782
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 6: is played at tremendous speed and on the whole, they

783
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: do a remarkable job of keeping up with that, and

784
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 6: the league wants to do everything it can to help

785
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: officials keep up with that. And you know, and that

786
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 6: may eventually get to a point where they say, like

787
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 6: we've got to use more replay because we at home,

788
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 6: even fans in the stadium looking up at the JumboTron

789
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 6: have so many more angles slow mow that officials, you know,

790
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 6: just don't have when they have to make the calls

791
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Speaker 6: in real time. If you want to help them be

792
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 6: as accurate as possible, you're probably going to have to,

793
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 6: you know, allow replay assists to tell them, you know,

794
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 6: put a.

795
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Speaker 2: Flag down on that last one here, Judy, before we

796
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Speaker 2: let you go. Ireland Spain added to the international slate

797
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Speaker 2: Australia in twenty six, as we know, was announced last

798
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Speaker 2: week as well. And you know, while that's going to

799
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: be a boon for everyone's frequent flyer miles, it is

800
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Speaker 2: a It is a grind for football teams with their

801
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: weekly routine to adjust and still play well and sometimes

802
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: even play well the week after that if there isn't

803
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: a buy on the back end and it's on the

804
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: front end.

805
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: So I can lease.

806
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Speaker 6: Interject, I think that the Philadelphia Eagles ruined this for

807
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: everybody because they started the season in sal Polo, Brazil,

808
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 6: right after a ten hour flight whatever the heck it is,

809
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 6: you know, and you just saw what happened, so that

810
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 6: probably messed up the argument that this is too much

811
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Speaker 6: of a grind for teams.

812
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Question.

813
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: My question for you, though, is you know, I had

814
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: an opportunity, along with Eric Wood on broadcast network in

815
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: the radio booth to discuss you know, international play with

816
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: the commissioner, and he just unsolicited throughout division in Europe

817
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: like in the next decade, which I mean, I've heard it.

818
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: I heard murmurs of.

819
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: That, but then he said it flat out and we

820
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 2: didn't even ask him that question.

821
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: It's just unsolicited. Where where is this all going?

822
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 6: Well, you know, he was asked about could you envision

823
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 6: ever playing a super Bowl in another country and he

824
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 6: said yes, he thought there was the potential for that.

825
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 6: That would only come though, if there were international teams

826
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: or an international team, and that I was told would

827
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 6: only come through expansion, Like teams are not relocating, and

828
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 6: there is no appetite among ownership right now for expansion,

829
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 6: so this is not imminent. But certainly, I mean, the

830
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 6: you know, international is an enormous, enormous growth area for

831
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Speaker 6: the NFL. They're already pushing into it. There's untapped markets,

832
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 6: untold millions, billions of dollars available there. There's no question

833
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: that is where it's headed. That's a huge priority for

834
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: them now where we see it, you know, an international

835
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Speaker 6: division in the next five years, no, next ten years,

836
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean that means an awful lot

837
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Speaker 6: of expansion if you're going to have that many teams,

838
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 6: let's say in Europe, owners have no appetite to split

839
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 6: the revenue pie more ways, so to expand by that

840
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 6: many teams is just not going to happen anytime.

841
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 7: Soon, you know. And you're not.

842
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: Teams are not relocating, they're not moving, So I think

843
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 6: we're still a ways away from that, but there's no

844
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: question that eventually that is where it's heated.

845
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: You need some convincing profit margins to enact something like

846
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: that for owners to kind of budge on that. Yeah,

847
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: thank you, Judy, Thanks for the time. Judy is always

848
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you later on the off season.

849
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 7: Great talking to you, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Judy Batista, NFL Media, senior national columnist for NFL

851
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Network NFL dot Com. Always good to get the league

852
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: perspective from her. We have to take a break here.

853
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Speaker 2: When we come back, your phone calls the rest of

854
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: the way as we are asking you, who do you

855
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: think is the most important young talent on this bill's

856
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: roster right now? Eighth three, five fifty, Your phone calls

857
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: next year on one Bill's Live Stay with us all

858
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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Steve

859
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: Tasker with you and asking you today it was the

860
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: most important young talent on the Bills roster right now

861
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: as far as their fortunes going forward are concerned. We

862
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: go to the phones where some people have been waiting

863
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: patiently and to Mike in Niagara Falls.

864
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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Mike here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 9: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. So the two young players with

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Speaker 9: the biggest impact that I'm going to have to say

868
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Speaker 9: Cole Bishop and Dwayne Carter. Carter showed some great sparks

869
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 9: before his injury last season, and I believe analytics had

870
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 9: him up in the top five for quarterback pressures. So

871
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 9: those two are going to be really big for us

872
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 9: in our defense because we really need to work on

873
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 9: that defense. It would be great for being to work

874
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 9: his magic with the cap issues that Buffalo has to

875
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 9: bring in Garrett and then having Garrett, Rousseau, Carter and

876
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 9: Oliver there on front four would really make a difference

877
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 9: on that defense. And then you know, going out further,

878
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 9: if he could bring in a free agent like Read

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00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 9: from Kansas City or Davis from Detroit and Stock up

880
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 9: on that backfield secondary that'd be prime for the Bills.

881
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, referring to Justin Reid, the veteran safety who is

882
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: a free agent for Kansas City this offseason, twenty seven

883
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: years old.

884
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.

885
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean the defense is going to be

886
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: the focus this offseason, and yeah, Carter has to come

887
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: ready to roll because I we just taped our weekly podcast,

888
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: Bills by the Numbers, which you'll be able to listen

889
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: to a little bit later on on whatever podcast platform

890
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: you choose this afternoon, and I was of the opinion

891
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: that I think the defensive tackle position might be the

892
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: one that experiences the most turnover from this year to next,

893
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: just by virtue of the fact that you got Austin Johnson,

894
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Phillips, Quentin Jefferson all free agents, and there could

895
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: be a cap casualty mixed in there as well. You know,

896
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: da Quon Jones is thirty four years old as a

897
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: year left on his deal.

898
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Does he see the end of that? I don't know.

899
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be basically Carter and Oliver and

900
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to refortify the rest of the ranks

901
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: from there. So yeah, Carter is a guy that's really

902
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to come on in year two in the fall.

903
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and certainly you don't want to see Cole Bishop

904
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: go anywhere. But up he he didn't get on that.

905
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: He was not a starter. Uh and ahead of him

906
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: were DeMar Hamlin and Taylor Rapp. Yeah, they need they

907
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: need him to step up in a big way and

908
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: become a force back there and become a you know,

909
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: a guy who sees it can help the guys around him,

910
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: being the on the same page and and his athleticism,

911
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: I thought it was good.

912
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: Now I think he was all right.

913
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes he got caught undisciplined early on in the season

914
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: where he got caught looking in the backfield the guy

915
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: ran right by him. That happened a couple of times.

916
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: But for the most part, yeah, I can. I can

917
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: get behind Dwayne Carter and Cole Bishop is being important

918
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: young guys, but we haven't seen them contribute as of

919
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: yet in to a large degree.

920
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Now let's go to Jen in Batavian X. What's up Jen? Hi, guys.

921
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 10: I'm taking a little bit of a different angle on

922
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 10: this one. I kind of heard the last one. I'm

923
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 10: think in a little bit differently here today, I think

924
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 10: we still need to lean a little bit more on

925
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 10: Joshua's pick here. We haven't really done a whole lot

926
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 10: of highlighting on Keon Coleman. I mean, I know there's

927
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 10: a a bare mention of him, but Keon actually got

928
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 10: injured in the beginning of the season, if you can

929
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 10: recall and Belieter or not. It actually was made worse

930
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 10: by when Poyer ran into him all when we were

931
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 10: playing Miami. And here's the thing. Keon is actually something

932
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 10: that most people probably wouldn't think as being, you know,

933
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 10: maybe necessarily the youngest player. But he's not really being highlighted.

934
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 10: He's not even being pronounced. He had some pretty darn

935
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 10: good plays there. I personally think his performance was other

936
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 10: than cold Bishops. So I don't know where counter is

937
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 10: even coming from either. Poyer, if you can recall too,

938
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 10: was served as a mean hand and at eagle's eye

939
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 10: on all the plays the prior season too when Knox

940
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 10: hurt his wrist, And now Keon's equally injured in the

941
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 10: kind of way where we haven't had a chance to

942
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 10: see him show off here. I'm waiting on Joshua's pick here.

943
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 10: Josh was picked was Keon. I'm waiting for that. I

944
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 10: have the feeling he's going to pull through this next year.

945
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a good call, Jen, and a good argument.

946
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: And look, Keon was just starting to reach critical mass.

947
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: Remember how he dominated in the Seattle game with one

948
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards receiving and a touchdown and

949
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: several big plays in that game.

950
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: And then he breaks his wrist.

951
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 2: When Poyer hits him in his wrist with the helmet

952
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the Dolphins game the next week.

953
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely tough, and it stunted his growth.

954
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that.

955
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: Is he going to move up in the passing game

956
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: concept pecking order?

957
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing.

958
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: That's gonna impact where he fits in terms of production

959
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: in the passing game.

960
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And certainly the narrative on Keon has been that

961
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: he doesn't run routes well enough to get open. They're

962
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: gonna have to scheme him open. He's gonna have to

963
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: run away from guys. He's gonna have to have Joe

964
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: Brady get him open rather than himself getting in guys

965
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: get himself open. If that doesn't prove to be the case,

966
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: if he does run better routes, if he does work

967
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: on the shortcomings of his game, and if the offense

968
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: gives him the opportunity to do that and he shows it, Yeah,

969
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 3: then no question, he's gonna be as important a CAUC

970
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: as anybody picked up in the draft this year or

971
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: last year.

972
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: He's got some physical tools.

973
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: He's big, he's fast, he's got he's great on those

974
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty balls, great leaper, great athlete. So he

975
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: is gonna have some moments, no question about it. And

976
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: I think you know with it, if he can stay

977
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: healthy and not get injured, he probably would have had

978
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 3: a lot more growth, and let's face it, the offense

979
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: would have evolved differently. Have you got a guy like

980
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: that out there? We'll just have to wait and see.

981
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: But that's a good call. I mean, he's a he's

982
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: gonna be an important player because of what they spent

983
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: to get him. And yeah, yeah, you want you want

984
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: to have those you want to have value in that pick.

985
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they moved down twice to get them, they actually

986
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: traded down, so yeah, but.

987
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: That's still the first pick of that draft. That and

988
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: they deliberately knew they were gonna they knew they were

989
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: gonna get him if they even if they traded down, Yeah,

990
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: and they passed on some other guys.

991
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: So we'll see.

992
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Break time for us here.

993
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls when we come back, as

994
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: we are wide open for your comments an hour number two,

995
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: So if you're holding at eight h three oh five fifty,

996
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: we will get to you in the next segment. Here

997
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by colid of Health. It's

998
00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

999
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

1000
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: Who is the most important young talent on the bills roster?

1001
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: Right now?

1002
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: That's the question we've got posts to you here on

1003
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: a Wednesday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

1004
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: Tasker with you, and right back to the phones we

1005
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: go where we've got some people that have been waiting

1006
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: a little while.

1007
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Go to Mark in Grand Island. Next, what's up Mark?

1008
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 11: Hey, Barnie, how you doing?

1009
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: Eight?

1010
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 4: Hey man?

1011
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 11: Hey, I gotta say I gotta go with with James Cook.

1012
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 11: You know when when he hits the line, it's like

1013
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 11: dropping an ant. You know, you can't see him. He's

1014
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 11: you think he's down in bam. He's off to the

1015
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 11: races and you know the fact that what the case,

1016
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 11: he ran what eleven run plays in uh in the

1017
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 11: Super Bowl. I think that just proves how important running

1018
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 11: the ball in today's NFL is today.

1019
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a good point, and I would

1020
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: be inclined to agree with you.

1021
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: I know I mentioned Kim kaid I.

1022
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: I see kinkaid as an important young piece for the

1023
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: further development of the passing game going forward, and hopefully

1024
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: he can be healthy.

1025
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Next season.

1026
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's no debating that Cook is the most

1027
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: dynamic young player on the roster. He is the biggest

1028
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: mismatch on offense right now. Maybe Coleman has some than

1029
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: to say about that in year or two of his

1030
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: career with the athletic specimen that he is, but Cook

1031
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: had over He had four touchdown runs of over forty

1032
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 2: yards last year.

1033
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: He's a home run hitter.

1034
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: If you give him enough space, people cannot catch him rain,

1035
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: sleet or snow. He had a sixty five yard or

1036
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: in the snow. So yes, I would be inclined to

1037
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: agree with you, Mark.

1038
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's certainly the guy that the offense leaned on

1039
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 3: the most last year.

1040
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: I think I.

1041
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: Think he had more touches than anybody other than Josh obviously,

1042
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: and you know he came through in a big way.

1043
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: I'll say this, though.

1044
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: It's a it's a throwing league. Even if your running

1045
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 3: back can catch the ball. As a throwing league, certainly

1046
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: he gives you some dynamic in the run game. And

1047
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: if you can run the ball effectively, you don't have

1048
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: to throw it, no question about it. If you can

1049
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: run it effectively, you don't have to accept what the

1050
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: Eagles did. You got to and so that in and

1051
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: of itself, it's, you know, it's that double edged sword.

1052
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: It's hard to run the ball in the NFL because

1053
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: everybody's focused so much on stopping it. Certainly, the Chiefs

1054
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: did a nice job of it in the Super Bowl.

1055
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 3: Saquon wasn't what beat them, but they had to expend

1056
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 3: so many assets in order to stop that run game

1057
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: of the of the Eagles that it cost them in

1058
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: the other in the other ways.

1059
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: I just think one of the core philosophical tenants of

1060
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott's vision for his football team is being able

1061
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: to stay balanced, and we saw evidence of that this

1062
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: year because they were very close to being a fifty

1063
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: to fifty teen. They had about thirteen or fifteen more

1064
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: pass attempts than they had rushing attempts.

1065
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they were fifty one this year.

1066
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: They're a load man offensively.

1067
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: They scored more points than anybody in the post Regular

1068
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: season and postseason combined, the Bills had the most.

1069
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: Points in the league.

1070
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: And they didn't even play in this and they didn't

1071
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: even play.

1072
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 4: They played one less game.

1073
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: They were a machine last year offensively, and that's why

1074
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: they got all the way to the conference championship, No

1075
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 3: question about it. They were a load offensively. You don't

1076
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: want to change too much, you know, I mean everybody

1077
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: was in Well, you got to do that. Coleman's got

1078
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: to contribute that well. You know, they were pretty good

1079
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: the way they did it last year. So there's there's

1080
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 3: something to be said for that. Right from one Mark

1081
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: to another. We go to Mark in East Amherst. Now

1082
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 3: it's up Mark, how you doing today?

1083
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 4: Good? Good?

1084
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 12: It's good for me. On offense, it's of Cyrus Torrens.

1085
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 12: I think he's been a key contributor to offensive line.

1086
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 12: Started every game both as a rookie and a sophomore.

1087
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 12: Very impressive against Kansas City and blocking Chris Jones one

1088
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 12: on one some occasions, so I think moving forward. Obviously,

1089
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 12: offensive line is key to the passing game, the running game.

1090
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 11: And then on.

1091
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 12: Defense there's two players. One was already mentioned Cooper dejen

1092
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 12: and I'm sorry, let me back up a little bit,

1093
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 12: Cold Bishop. And as we could see how valuable Cooper

1094
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 12: Dejene was this year with Philadelphia. However, Cold Bishop obviously

1095
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 12: was injured, so I think that kind of set him

1096
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 12: back obviously, but I think he has the same potential

1097
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 12: to be that type of a player, and I think

1098
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 12: that he'll grow and develop this coming year and be

1099
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 12: a key contributor on defense. And then my Derek horse

1100
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 12: is Javon Solomon. I just think that in watching him,

1101
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 12: he definitely shows past rush ability, needs to be a

1102
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 12: little bit more disciplined, but I think that the potential

1103
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 12: there is a key contributor once again and our line,

1104
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 12: and that's where games are lost, as we well know

1105
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 12: as the lines of scrimmage. So if those players can contribute,

1106
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 12: continue to grow and develop, I think the future is promising.

1107
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 12: So I just wanted to hear what you guys think

1108
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 12: about that, and I hope you have a great day.

1109
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: Thanks, Mark, appreciate the call. Yeah, Cibo, they call him

1110
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: Cyrus Torrens. You kind of forget about him because, yeah,

1111
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: let's face they drafted him, they plugged him in. He's

1112
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: been there ever since since day one, and you didn't

1113
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: get it.

1114
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: I forget it.

1115
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's you're right, and it's on an

1116
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: offensive line that was elite this last year, So that's

1117
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: a good point.

1118
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: We had Osiris here in studio during the season and

1119
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: it was probably you know, we'll see guys in passing

1120
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: and say hello here in the building, but that was

1121
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: the longest conversation we've had with him since he's been here,

1122
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: and you really got a sense for how cerebral he

1123
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: is with his approach to the game. Yes, he works hard,

1124
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, lifts weights, he's in the weight room doing

1125
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: all the things he needs to do to improve his

1126
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: play from a physical standpoint, but you really got a

1127
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: peek inside how he sees the game, how he's studies

1128
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: the game, and you kind of realize that most offensive

1129
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: lineman to be successful and play a long time in

1130
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: this league, you also got to be pretty smart.

1131
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1132
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: That's as much as and it's a must, it's it

1133
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: was kind of an ongoing joke and the truth be known. Yeah,

1134
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: it's a group. The offensive Linemen are really smart dudes,

1135
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: and that goes along with their huge size. They communicate

1136
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: well and they also have a little for you know,

1137
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: for a little fraternity in there.

1138
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: That and they elevate each other.

1139
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: So it's a cybo got stuck in with a good

1140
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: group of guys, starting with Mitch Morse last year, and

1141
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: now it's elevated to you know, Spencer Brown, Dion Dawkins

1142
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: and David Edwards, all those guys being veterans, he has

1143
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: fit right in with that. It's a testament to how

1144
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: sharp he is.

1145
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: That man.

1146
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: He has been a like, never a topic of conversation

1147
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: and that sounds crazy, but you don't have to talk

1148
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: about that guy. Yeah, he's on their head, up on

1149
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Chris Jones and holding his own doing good.

1150
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Mary in North Carolina next.

1151
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: What's up Mary?

1152
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 7: Hi, guys, how are you good?

1153
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: Good?

1154
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 13: Today's topic? To me personally, it's like picking my favorite child.

1155
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: Okay.

1156
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 13: There are a great bunch of guys and as we

1157
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 13: watched the game down here in Raleigh, we're like, oh

1158
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 13: my god, did you see what he just did?

1159
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1160
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 13: So I'm hoping any shortcomings the coaches will be able

1161
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 13: to get them ready for next season. And I'm still

1162
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 13: listening to your podcast and other videos at that time,

1163
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 13: so thank you for helping me to go to sleep.

1164
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, no problem.

1165
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: Mary.

1166
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: Happy to help wherever we can, And the new podcast

1167
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: will be out this afternoon, so get ready for it.

1168
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. You know. It's it's a good

1169
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: group of dudes.

1170
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, they're an easy team to root for, an

1171
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: easy team to like, even if you're not a Bills fan,

1172
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: just because of the way they play every week.

1173
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: They play hard for their head coach. So yeah, I

1174
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: get it.

1175
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: And it was interesting too.

1176
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: As good as their offense was this year, and it

1177
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 3: was very good, I think the thing that was interesting

1178
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: about it, or maybe intriguing about it, was the fact

1179
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: that week to week you didn't know who's going to

1180
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: have the play. They really did spread this football around

1181
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: a lot in this offense, and this everybody each mantra

1182
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: was proven to be exactly what the doctor ordered this season.

1183
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's going to be that way next season,

1184
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: but this year that's what happened. They had guys in

1185
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: and out of the lineup with injury and they didn't

1186
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: miss a beat. Kincaid was down with an injury, Coleman

1187
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: was down with an injury, Samuel was down with an injury.

1188
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: You know, Mac Collins was.

1189
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: There every week, Khalil Shakir showed up every week, Dawson

1190
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: Knox was there every week, so it was James Cook.

1191
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: So they had plenty of guys to spread it around

1192
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 3: to while the guy the rest of the roster was

1193
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: in a whirlpool of you know, being injured, and they

1194
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: didn't miss a beat and in fact thrived in that atmosphere.

1195
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: So it's this.

1196
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: Offense this year was really something special. And I think

1197
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: when you talk about what you're gonna remember about this

1198
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: crew getting the AFC Championship game was the fact that

1199
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: so many guys contributed and the expectations were so low

1200
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: when the season began, and they exceeded him.

1201
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 4: Vastly exceeded him. And by the way, I was right.

1202
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: In my bold taker at the beginning of the season,

1203
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: they did end up leading everything in scoring.

1204
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said regular potential to lead the league in scoring,

1205
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: and look at that at the end of the regular

1206
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: season in playoffs, most points in the league six hundred

1207
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 2: and twelve, six hundred.

1208
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: Twelve, let's go to Ken in Hamburg. What's up?

1209
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: Ken, Hi, guys, Ken Harp speaking.

1210
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: Sure, what do you got for us?

1211
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: My choice is Dwayne car I have a little prejudice

1212
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 5: for him. He lives my next door neighbor, but I

1213
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: had a chance to talk between a couple days ago.

1214
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 5: I am disabled and he has helped me twice get

1215
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: back on my feet, and he is just an excellent

1216
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 5: young man. He tells me that veterans Phillips and Jefferson

1217
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 5: are his most favorite people that help him grow in

1218
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: what he's doing. And his best friend is Cole Bishop.

1219
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 5: And he loves the Bills, and I love the Bills.

1220
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 5: I've been a Bills fan since nineteen sixty as an

1221
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 5: eighteen year old, and I continue to be a Bills fan.

1222
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 5: I want one before I die, for sure.

1223
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we get it, Ken, Thanks for the call.

1224
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

1225
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not the first person to mention Dwayne Carter

1226
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: and obviously a good dude off the field. Taking a

1227
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: step forward on the field next year will be instrumental

1228
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: in helping this defense shore up the run front. It

1229
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: wasn't poor, but it was average, and I think they

1230
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: want to be better there, and you know, if Carter

1231
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: can take another step and stay healthy, because he was

1232
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: just that's the shame of it, you know what I mean, Steve,

1233
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 2: Because Carter and Coleman right around the same time pop

1234
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: up with wrist injuries, right when they were starting to

1235
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: make contributions, and it really stunted the growth of both

1236
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: of them.

1237
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really it took them off their stride.

1238
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 3: And it seemed like when they got back in the lineup,

1239
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: as you know, as Coleman did.

1240
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: It almost like they had to start from scratch again.

1241
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, they couldn't pick up where they left off

1242
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: because of the way the offense ran a Carter getting

1243
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: rotated back in it just you know, as rough. But

1244
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: certainly both showed promise, and Carter's no exception, he really did.

1245
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to Barry and cheek to waga what he

1246
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: got for his Barry?

1247
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 14: Hey you doing, guys? How are you today?

1248
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: Good?

1249
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 14: You guys got the best show on the air on

1250
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 14: GRF telling you that's the only thing. Everyone I listened

1251
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 14: to him now. I think James Cook is awesome. You

1252
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 14: watch him come approach the line if the line closes

1253
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 14: up like my wife and I used to say, all

1254
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 14: these other receivers, why don't they just go around at

1255
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 14: all and pick their spot? And that's what he does.

1256
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 14: And he darts and jogs and like like like le'vy umbell,

1257
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 14: I see a little bit of that in him too.

1258
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 14: He finds the spot.

1259
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Le'Veon Bell was like that.

1260
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: He'd come up and he'd kind of hesitate or look

1261
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 3: and he was really patient with the ball in his hand.

1262
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: And I'm that's really hard to do.

1263
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 14: Yeah. And one more thing. I hate to bring up

1264
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 14: the referees and all that crap again, but I heard

1265
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 14: Dean Blandino on the NFL Channel satellite. He said that

1266
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 14: when they're looking in that blue box, they're seeing all

1267
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 14: the plays we see at home. Now, if they would

1268
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 14: see that and maybe not make their judgment so fast whatever,

1269
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 14: how come they didn't see the ball drop out of

1270
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 14: Worthy's hand and then the girl you just had that.

1271
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 14: They don't have all these scenes that we see at home.

1272
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 14: What is it? You know you're getting mixed things about that.

1273
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1274
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: No, they they've got as many or more angles than

1275
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: the viewer does, and they see him all at once.

1276
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: They can they can point him and make them big

1277
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: and stuff like that can take it to full screen

1278
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. Why they didn't why they gave

1279
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: the catch to Worthy is beyond Mostly is because when

1280
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 3: that ball hit the ground, and it did hit the ground,

1281
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: obviously it didn't move. The problem was it was Cole

1282
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: Bishop who had his hands on the ball, not Worthy

1283
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: who had control of it.

1284
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: Worthy at most had one hand on them.

1285
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: Right, And yeah, I'm with you. I don't think I

1286
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 3: thought that was an incomplete pass.

1287
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 4: At least. And yeah, so I'm with you. I don't

1288
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: know why.

1289
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what they saw that they didn't overrule

1290
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: that or what, but they had you had plenty of

1291
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: good angles and the ball hit the ground. We're the

1292
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: only had one hand at most on it because his

1293
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: other hand was plainly visible not on it.

1294
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

1295
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: To Jim and Ken More next, what's up, Jim, Hey, thanks.

1296
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 15: Guys for taking my car. I'm a big Dorian Williams fan.

1297
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 15: I've watched him all year and he brings it. He

1298
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 15: brings it hired, he's athletic speed, and I just think

1299
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 15: that our defensive coordinators did not put him in the

1300
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 15: right situations. And why we're all why we're always taking

1301
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 15: von Miller on the field alone. We should have had

1302
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 15: Dorian Williams there, and so on and so on. It

1303
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 15: like your response on that. I really likedan Williams.

1304
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was wondering how long it was going

1305
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: to take until somebody mentioned Dorian Williams.

1306
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: And we're almost two thirds through the show here.

1307
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean a run and hit player and

1308
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: a guy that started in place of Milano after he

1309
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: tore his biceps right before the start of the season.

1310
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you the guy made eleven starts

1311
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: this season on defense, and Milano started the rest of

1312
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: the games next to Terrell Bernard. Do you know who

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01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: finished the season as the leading tackler on this football team?

1314
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: It was Dorian Williams.

1315
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: Dorrian Williams was the leading tackler on this team and

1316
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: only started eleven games. That tells you how much he

1317
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: is around the football. And I think he's gonna push

1318
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: to be a starter next season, whether Milano's here or not.

1319
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: I really do believe that.

1320
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's right, he sees it and gets it

1321
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: and that's you know, was a linebacker.

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 4: That's what you want to do.

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01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: And also I'll say this too, You're not gonna put

1324
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 3: Dorian Williams on in place of von Miller. I mean

1325
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: they played two different positions, So I don't I you know,

1326
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,959
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. If you're down on Vaughan,

1327
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: that's fine, but you wouldn't put Dorian Williams in for

1328
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: von Miller.

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 4: So there's that.

1330
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: Although I will say that the defensive coordinators, whether it

1331
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: was mcdermidd last year or Babbage this year, they have

1332
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: utilized linebackers up on the line of scrimmage as blitzers

1333
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: and it has worked effectively. I mean Milano had a

1334
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: sack in each of the playoff games this postseason. They've

1335
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: triggered Dorian Williams and Bernard at times as blitzers, more

1336
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: so in last year's playoffs than this year, and it

1337
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: worked well. And unless you find an a one pass rusher,

1338
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: you may have to get creative like that again this year.

1339
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: Right, So we'll see what comes of.

1340
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 3: It as we've seen though we saw it in the

1341
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with an Eagles. We talk about that. I

1342
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 3: say that use it the magic elixir. Yeah, if you

1343
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 3: can get quick pressure with just four guys, ain't nobody

1344
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 3: beating you.

1345
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 2: Right, Let's go to Dino up in Hamilton. What do

1346
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: you got first, Dino?

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 16: More, thank you for taking the call. Sure, I got

1348
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 16: a couple of things. What I'd like to see happen

1349
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 16: is like Khalios Shakiro would be my version of Edelman

1350
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 16: for Brady, and I wish that that whenever Josh is

1351
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 16: in trouble, he would look to him as an immediate

1352
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 16: response all the time. Because this guy's always opening these money,

1353
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 16: always catches the ball. I think he's most one of

1354
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 16: the most valuable players on our team, along with Cook

1355
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 16: mindjam Also, I've been a Bills fan for a long time.

1356
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 16: Four Super Bowls went to the losses and everything. I

1357
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 16: just hope we don't sit and just waste the talent

1358
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 16: of Josh Allen. When Jim Keller went to the Super

1359
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 16: Bowl those years, we were missing one ki element. And

1360
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 16: I'm gonna say stubborn. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

1361
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 16: We never ever corrected our problem. We never had to

1362
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 16: run stuff for We have Bruce Smith on one side,

1363
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 16: Saw Hanson on the other for some of them, but

1364
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 16: never a true run stuff and never would do we

1365
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 16: make the attempt to go out and get one. And

1366
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 16: now we've drafted four defensive players one after another. Greg Russo,

1367
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 16: Fans Basha and Kyler, and none of them have fanned out.

1368
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 16: I don't know if it's type for Brandon beante Go,

1369
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 16: but let's hope we don't waste the talent of Josh Allen,

1370
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 16: because I think he's a remarkable player, a great passet

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,879
Speaker 16: to Buffalo. Oh state of Buffalo.

1372
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Speaker 11: We love him.

1373
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 16: Go Bills.

1374
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Tino.

1375
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: I agree with you on Shakir, who was mentioned once

1376
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: before today. I thought he would get a lot more mentions.

1377
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: I really thought it was going to come down to

1378
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: Shakiir and Cook, quite frankly, in terms of the most

1379
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: important young talent on the Bills roster right now, and

1380
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: that really didn't come to fruition. We've had a cornucopia

1381
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: of different selections in terms of the most important young

1382
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: talent on the roster concerning you know, the defensive front. Look, Diino,

1383
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: you're right, I mean defensive tackle. It's Ed Oliver and

1384
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter is the only draft choices in those spots.

1385
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 2: Harrison Phillips is no longer here, but was drafted as

1386
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: well in the third round several years back. He's now

1387
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I think that changes this year with the

1388
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: depth of the defensive tackle class and the positional need

1389
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: that I think it's going to be by the time

1390
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: they get to the draft. I would be stunned if

1391
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: one isn't added, and I think there's a chance that

1392
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: even two could be added by the end of the

1393
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: draft if the Bills hold on to all the draft

1394
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: capital they're expected to have.

1395
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in some respects, you're right, and Brandon Bean

1396
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 3: and his draft picks have proven that they think you're

1397
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: right too. They're trying to find a guy that's a

1398
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: run stuffer. They might have found one in Dwayne Carter,

1399
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: but he got injured and he kind of derailed his

1400
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 3: rookie season. But you know, they're right there with you,

1401
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: and we've said it to This team learned a valuable

1402
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: lesson in twenty nineteen when Josh was got pretty good

1403
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: after his rookie year. His second year, he got pretty good,

1404
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: but the offensive line couldn't protect him well enough. They've

1405
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: never forgotten that lesson. They have been good upfront ever since,

1406
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: and this year they were really good up front. They

1407
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: believe the same thing about their defense as well. But

1408
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: they've had trouble finding guys who were dominant, particularly drafting

1409
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 3: down low, because on that side of the ball, up front,

1410
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: you got to be a special dude, and it's hard

1411
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 3: to find special dudes when you're drafting, even outside the

1412
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 3: top ten. So that remains to be seen as to

1413
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 3: whether they can finally get a guy like that like

1414
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: what you're talking about, or if Dwayne Carter or some

1415
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: of the other guys Jovon, Solomon and Ed and those

1416
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: guys develop. We'll see, but I think the way they've

1417
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 3: picked has lent credence to what you said, Dino, is

1418
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 3: you know they need some guys up front to make

1419
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:38,919
Speaker 3: a difference.

1420
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: We are going to step aside and take a break here,

1421
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: but we're still wide open for your phone call. So

1422
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: you tell us who is the most important young talent

1423
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: on this Bill's roster right now for you eight oh

1424
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: three five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

1425
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: five fifty got open lines for you there, or you

1426
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: can hit us up on the tweet sheet of one

1427
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. More of your phone calls next, we'll see in.

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:16,440
Speaker 1: A few here's the snap handoff.

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01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 17: No, it's a keeper by Allen looking for the pylon,

1430
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 17: leaped for the goal line.

1431
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: And he's in touchdown.

1432
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 18: Buffalo Alan Win a seven yard touchdown run.

1433
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 17: That got the joint jumping on a third and ten

1434
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 17: play clock down to five three two.

1435
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Here's the snap. Another blitz down.

1436
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 18: The middle touchdown maccollins, an eleven yard touchdown strike from

1437
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 18: Allen to Hollins, and the barefoot wonder scores from eleven

1438
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 18: yards out.

1439
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: Look back at some of the top plays from the

1440
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Buffalo Bill season.

1441
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: They're up now on Buffalo bills dot.

1442
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: Com and the Bills YouTube channel, courtesy of the Bills

1443
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: Radio Network.

1444
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 3: J Harris Heart, producer came in and told us that

1445
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 3: was on us twenty one minutes long. Let's go twenty

1446
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: one minute. There's a lot of plays in this one man. Yeah,

1447
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: twenty one minutes of Brownie Gold.

1448
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: That's a let go.

1449
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: I didn't I had no idea that was happening. Nobody

1450
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: even gave me a heads up. Okay, so we we will,

1451
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: so be sure to check that out. I'm sure bring

1452
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: back some good memories from what was a fun twenty

1453
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: twenty four season. Uh, but we got to get back

1454
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: to the phones where he got people waiting at eight

1455
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: oh three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five

1456
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the number to jump on board

1457
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: where we're asking you your most who is the most

1458
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: important young talent on the Bills roster right now in

1459
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: your estimation and let us know why you think that

1460
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 2: is as well.

1461
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: We go to Frank in Clarence next. What do you

1462
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: got for us? Frank?

1463
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 19: I have a question a common as they say, but

1464
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 19: in I'm telling you a little uh actually time everybody,

1465
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 19: I'm gonna askally the offensive lineman. Okay, last year, this year,

1466
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 19: the last time cle Cleveland that the word was that

1467
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 19: they were gonna secon our quarterback like like like knife

1468
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 19: going through butt it right, And we held a really

1469
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 19: good in solid, solid, solid that game. The next next

1470
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,679
Speaker 19: thing I asked about was, so we played. I'm sorry,

1471
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 19: I'm having a hard time to park something that was

1472
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 19: a little bit difficult. They're playing, they're playing, uh, the

1473
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 19: Chiefs in in uh in the games the year see

1474
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 19: because then in Buffalo.

1475
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: In Buffalo and then Kansas for the championship.

1476
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 19: In our defense, our offensive line, I'm sorry, our defensive

1477
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 19: line stuff. These guys pretty much just on four men

1478
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 19: rushing okay, and I'm wondering what was the what what's

1479
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 19: the taken between the foreman and rushing guys and having

1480
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 19: playing uh uh a nickel or uh why why did

1481
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 19: some guys just bullet bullet gave.

1482
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 20: The game design of them with just forty nine And

1483
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 20: let's really say, see, what are your final thoughts in

1484
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 20: the new system this year for kickoffs? But you see

1485
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 20: that it was improvement. Let me hang up and listen

1486
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 20: that you very much.

1487
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 1: Jay, Thanks Frank new kickoff. Put your thoughts on it

1488
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: after watching it.

1489
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: They may tinker with it a little more. I think

1490
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 3: they're happy with it. The concussions are down, the injuries

1491
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 3: are way down. Well, that was the thought they got.

1492
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: And there were more returns than they than there were

1493
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 3: the year before. They're up to like thirty percent I

1494
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 3: think something like that. I'm not exactly sure what the

1495
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: percentage was, but they were very happy with that. They

1496
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 3: gained about three or four yards when they did return

1497
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,919
Speaker 3: the ball. They gained some yardage past the thirty on average,

1498
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: so uh and they got you know, a handful although

1499
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 3: not very many touchdown returns. So I think they liked

1500
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: where it is now. Whether teams will start to get

1501
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: a handle on it and start to try new things.

1502
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: And where it'll evolve from here, we don't know, but

1503
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 3: I think it's going to stick around.

1504
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: No quick about it.

1505
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: To Alan Cheek the waganex what's up?

1506
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 8: Hell, Hello, this is the first time caller.

1507
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing I want to.

1508
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 8: My favorite player is shau Quille caller.

1509
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shaki, Yeah, Well.

1510
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 8: I'm projet just because my granddaughter is married to his

1511
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 8: brother in South Carolina.

1512
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well, at least we appear we appreciate you being

1513
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 2: so transparent.

1514
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: Now, thank you.

1515
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 19: So.

1516
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 8: But but I've I met him and he's just so

1517
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 8: a wonderful guy to be around. Yeah, and uh, that's

1518
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 8: all I gotta say is that I think Shakira is

1519
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 8: a great ball player.

1520
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: All right, thank you Al for the call.

1521
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: That's that's the second guy that's called that has had

1522
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: a personal interaction with one of the young players on

1523
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: the rosters. Had a caller from Hamburg who is Duayne

1524
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 2: Carter's next door neighbors.

1525
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: So they're all over. That's unbelieve. We'll go to Stan

1526
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: in Buffalo next. What's up Stan?

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Speaker 21: Hey, guys, Nice to talk to you guys again. I

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Speaker 21: had to take a couple of weeks off after all

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01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 21: that misery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, but it's got.

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Speaker 21: To be the Cookie monster. James Cook is such a

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01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 21: key component to this offense. I mean the things that

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Speaker 21: he brings to the table. The only thing I wish

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Speaker 21: that Brady would do more with him, especially in big

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Speaker 21: games like in the playoffs, is he's a good down,

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Speaker 21: third down back. He can block, he can receive as

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Speaker 21: you know, he can receive on the on the outside,

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Speaker 21: as the screen pass, he can release. He's gotten better

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Speaker 21: at that over the last couple of years. And to

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Speaker 21: take him out after two downs nothing against Johnson or

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Speaker 21: Davis just doesn't make sense when Josh actually depends on

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Speaker 21: him and Shakier in certain situations.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a couple of things there, Stam. First of all,

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01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 3: Josh has called Ty Johnson the best third down back

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. The second thing is, while

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: James Cook has developed in every facet of his game,

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01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: he's still not as good as pass protector as they

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 3: need him to be, and Ty Johnson is. And they

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01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: got a lot They got a little heat after the

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01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 3: Chiefs game for not having James Cook on the field

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: in that situation that three and a half minute situation

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: when he had had such a good game up to

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01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: that point, and the reason was exactly what I just said.

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01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 3: I think, when the chips are down and Josh needs

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01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: somebody to step up and take on a linebacker, Ty

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01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: Johnson's the guy wants doing it, or Joe Brady is

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: whichever you want to take a pick, and that's why.

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Speaker 3: And plus the fact that Tdy Johnson had had great

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 3: success this last season being the third down back. Josh

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01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 3: had given him kudos a number of times in his

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01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: postgame presser, So all that stuff goes into the mix.

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Speaker 3: I know, and you're right, James Cook is a dynamic

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01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: athlete and he's gotten better in facets of his game.

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Speaker 3: But that situation, I think is as I've described.

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Speaker 2: If you want to argue that, put Ty Johnson and

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: James Cook on the field at the same time and

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: let Ty Johnson handle the blocking responsibilities and use Cook

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: as a mismatch in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: I will listen to that all day, every day.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's where this offensive staff should have gotten

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01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: to in crunch time in that game against the Chiefs

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: when they had to score on that drive.

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Speaker 1: You want to make that argument. I'm listening and.

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Speaker 3: Then you get all you got to do is decide

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01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 3: who else are you going to take off the fields

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01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 3: against the knocks Kincaid, Coleman, Hollins, who's going to be

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: that sits now? Khalil, who's he going to be that

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01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 3: sits down? But with those both those guys out there,

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Speaker 3: perhaps you do have a different kind of flexibility than

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Speaker 3: you would have had with you know, the having a

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Speaker 3: receiver or tight end on the field.

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Speaker 1: Over to Gary on a sel, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? Gary?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I.

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Speaker 8: All do him good?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 22: Coke was one of them because I think he's gonna

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01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 22: evolve how the often is going to evolve with him

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 22: catch the ball because he's a great runner, but him receiving,

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Speaker 22: he'll get even better at that. And I think Bishop

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01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 22: young safety I like him a lot. I think he'll

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 22: win the starting job this when trading camp starts. I

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01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 22: think he's won the keys because you know he's cheap

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01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 22: obviously the rookie deal, and I think they like him.

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01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 22: And with o' seeing him play the way he can run, he'

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Speaker 22: should be a difference maker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And if he can be a difference maker next year,

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Speaker 2: what a difference that makes for the secondary. I mean

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01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: back end was it was a little disjoint and do

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01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 2: mainly to injury more than anything else, and too inexperience

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01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: too when Bishop had to be thrust into the lineup

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: because of those injuries. You know, but he learned some

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01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: hard lessons last year that I think are going to

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: benefit him in year two. And if he can really

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: come on in year two and to our callers point,

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01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: win a starting job, well in all the better for

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01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 2: the Bill secondary.

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Speaker 3: I think, right, yeah, yeah, you would expect him to

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01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 3: get better and better, no question about it, and he did.

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: He played significant time this year, no question about us.

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01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: So he got some really good snap counts during this season,

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: and I think he's it's going to pay dividends later on.

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Speaker 1: Out to the Islands of Hawaii to talk to Brian.

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Speaker 1: What do we got first? Brian?

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Speaker 23: Oh, heloha you guys. Yeah, I'm with that other caller.

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01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 23: I had to take several weeks off. I tried to

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 23: listen to some of your shows, but I just couldn't

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01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 23: bear it.

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 4: We get it, I get it.

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01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 23: So young talent. I think Dwayne Carter and Cole Bishop.

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Speaker 23: When you mentioned that you thought you'd be getting a

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Speaker 23: lot more called on Cook and Secure. I think they've

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01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 23: already proven themselves, so when you ask for young talent

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01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 23: that's gonna show up. You know, Dwayne Carter really didn't

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01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 23: get his chance, and Cold Bishop kind of got a

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01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 23: little bit of a chance. But I would think those

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01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 23: two guys could be a real team for this king

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Speaker 23: going forward.

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01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially knowing the improvements that need to

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: happen on defense.

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Speaker 11: Right correct.

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Speaker 23: So what I really wanted to talk about was I

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Speaker 23: agree with Dino, your previous caller, about before drafting all

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01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 23: that offensive line. It just seems to me that Dean

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 23: misses on those high round draft picks for some reason.

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01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 23: And to fix that, what would you propose? Is it

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01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 23: possible to trade a first and the second or first

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 23: in the first to go up as high as you

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01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 23: can in that first round and get yourself a stud.

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01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 23: So if you get one stud every two years, so

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01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 23: you trade a draft picks, it isn't that better than

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01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 23: not getting a stud drafting four years in a row.

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 23: I don't think you could do any worse. It looks

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01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 23: like me like Keon Coleman, looks like higher elom two

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 23: point zero. I really like the guy coming out to college.

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01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 23: I just don't think he has it. So that's all

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Speaker 23: I got to say about that, but mostly about but

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01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 23: I know he loves his draft pick, But what about

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 23: trading to go get a guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving, moving up, it's a it's a fair argument, Brian.

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01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: I get it, because what did we hear coach McDermott

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01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: say in a season ending press conference. He wasn't speaking

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01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 2: necessarily about the Bills roster, he was speaking generally, but

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01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: he said, to really be successful in this league, you

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01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: need two or three difference makers on either side of

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01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: the ball. And he's talking about stud level players, right,

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01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: you need two or three of those guys on each

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01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: side of the ball. You probably have two in Cook

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01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: and Allen on offense. Maybe Shakir could be borderlined for

1662
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: that conversation. Defensively, I think you're searching it, You're looking

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean, if you feel your roster is

1664
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: pretty set up for success and you only need to

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01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 2: add a couple of primetime players, maybe you do consider

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01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: moving up a board. Now, this draft class is a

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01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 2: little thin in terms of the blue chip player variety.

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01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: You probably have to get up into the top ten

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01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: to secure one because you're not getting one at fifteen

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01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 2: or even thirteen, because it's thin in terms of elite

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01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: talent that's going to help you immediately.

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Speaker 1: In this year's class.

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: It's more of a meat and potatoes draft, So that

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01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 2: could alter that kind of move and that kind of decision.

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01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: You may decide to spray the draft with volume, knowing

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01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 2: the chances of landing a stud are pretty remote.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's gonna be a different kind of tactic this year.

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01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 3: And certainly once you get out of those top eight

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01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 3: guys or so half dozen guys that are really elite

1680
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: talents that are looking like they're going to be step

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01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 3: in and plug and play. Once you get outside of those,

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: you may see a team like Buffalo trade down.

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01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's premature to make a call

1684
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: on key On Coleman after one season in which he

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01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,919
Speaker 2: missed almost a month of it. So we've seen players

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01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:18,440
Speaker 2: here in Buffalo develop and blossom into some pretty important contributors,

1687
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: sometimes not even in year two, sometimes in year three.

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01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: We have to remember, also, we are at the lowest

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01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: point of practice time in the off season that we've

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01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: ever seen in the league's history, and I think it

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01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: does inhibit the growth of players because you used to

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: see that transformation between year one and year two when

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01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: you had full off seasons and the Union didn't, you know,

1694
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: collectively bargain for less off season practice time. Now that

1695
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: they have, I think a lot of those players are

1696
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: now taking two full off seasons before they blossom, and

1697
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: we're hoping Coleman doesn't fall into that category.

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: Two, it's hard to practice defense by yourself. You can

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01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 3: go out and run routes, you can do this stuff,

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01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: you can work out, but as a defender, you can't

1701
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 3: play zone defense by yourself, right. You can't work on

1702
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: your drops against air.

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01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 4: You can't.

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01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: You know, you need a bunch of guys to get

1705
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: together and do that, and sometimes they do that, but

1706
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: that's what it takes. So it's it's a logistical problem

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01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: for some of these young players to get better because

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01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 3: you can't get any reps. You can't go out, even

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01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 3: if you go out with the high school guys and

1710
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 3: you can go one on one, but that's it.

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 4: You can't work on reps.

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01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 3: You can't work on certainly can't work on tackling, you

1713
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 3: can't work on all that stuff. So there's a lot

1714
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: of stuff you cannot do as an individual player defensively

1715
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: that offensive players can do.

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 16: So.

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01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 4: It just takes reps and reps and reps, and those

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: are hard to come by.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here.

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Speaker 2: We'll get some of the thoughts on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: when we come back here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by coll Lot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, good discussion today on the most important young

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01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 2: talent you feel is on the Bills roster right now?

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01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 4: Who is that?

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: Specifically? We've had a lot of good choices.

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Speaker 2: A couple more here on the tweetsheet courtesy of Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Jacob says it's Cook as much as many of us,

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: like Ray.

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01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Davis, I don't think he's quite the eighteen touchdown a

1733
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 2: season territory. That Cook lives in Barkley, Henry Mixon and

1734
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 2: Jacob's signing elsewhere and having great seasons all on playoff

1735
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 2: teams solidifies to me that having an elite running back

1736
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 2: can do wonders. Cook belongs in that year.

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01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: He's got a point that may be as good a

1738
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: point as we've heard with all those guys who being

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01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 3: such a factor in the team success and all those

1740
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: teams headed the playoffs with a guy, makes you think

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01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: you need a guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The interesting thing is I thought Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Managed his carry count better than some of those other teams.

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Speaker 2: Acodrew carried an enormous load for Green Bay, so too

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Speaker 2: did Derrick Henry, although they paced him in the second

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Speaker 2: half of the season.

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Speaker 4: Mixing got hurt, didn't he.

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Speaker 2: And Mixing did get nicked up and missed a month

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Speaker 2: of the season. John says, we need to nail this

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Speaker 2: draft in a few ways if we want to get

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Speaker 2: a trophy the way the Eagles did it two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Our young core is mainly depth except for about six

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Speaker 2: to eight guys in my opinion. Well, six to eight

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Speaker 2: guys is a big number, right, I mean we're talking Benford,

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Speaker 2: Khalil Torrence, Uh, you know, like Shakir Cook, like Coleman.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys.

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Speaker 4: They've got some guys. And yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us today, mad lab in for me

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with Steve. They'll see you at one