1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: I'm Rachel and I'm Cheerity, and today Rachel and I 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: are here to catch up with you guys, answer some 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: of your questions, and honestly just just chat away because 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: we got a lot to discuss. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: I fear we way so much and these are my 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: favorite episodes, but it's just me and you, no sense 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: we can really get down to the bottom of what 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: has been going on. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: So no interruptions, no other. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: Interruptions at the top. It is so crazy. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: It has been two months since we started to feeling it. No, 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: it feels like the best part of my week. But 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't say and we get to talk shit and 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't even feel like work. 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, which is isn't that everyone's dream? Yeah, 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: I'm very grateful to be doing this with you and 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: it's been an amazing ride. But crazy enough that we're 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: just getting started. We have so much ahead of us, 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: I know, oh much ahead of us. Wait, okay, with 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: us being here for two months, what was what has 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: been your favorite interview? 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Rachel lindsay easily now and now interview was first of all, 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: just such an honor. Rachel started this podcast and I 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: feel like me and you are so appreciative of what 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: the Bachelor has given us and what the platform has 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: given us, and. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: Rachel created this. 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Oh it was just amazing to get her back because 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I never thought she was going to come back to 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: No, I mean I was genuinely floored. I think even 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: like we said at the bachelorette ing and I was like, whoa, 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: I had no idea who was coming. I knew you 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: were coming. I knew a few other people, but I 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: was like even then, but like walking in and seeing Rachel, 37 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I was like, this is the world is healing. Perhaps 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was crazy, bruly, so to sit 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: down with her talk everything and knowing that we're going 40 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: to get her back, and yes we said that again, 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: we are getting Rachel Lindsay back. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just I was gonna regret saying that. 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: No, I know we're gonna be I will be on her, 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: I will be on her. 45 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: We literally we're like, you're coming to Carrie's and you're 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: coming to Mental Hearth, and you're coming to. 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: The Finally, we're booking your schedule. We're making you booked 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: and busy. 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Literally, I was just so obviously impressed with her, but 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: there is so much of her story that we don't know, 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: and I need her books to come out tomorrow. 52 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: I know you have. I'm making you head chairman of 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: the book club. 54 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I could not, I will forget half of the things 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: that came out of her mouth. Her finding out in 56 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: the tabloids. I don't think this is like people are 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: not grasping how naturally crazy that is. 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: She's like a real human. And to find out that the. 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Person you're married to is getting a divorce from you. 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: And you have to and you have to send in 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: a paycheck, are you crazy? I'd be damned. I personally 62 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: would like, on hell, no, she's I'm telling you it's 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: it's There is really no other blueprint. It's it's Rachel's. 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: It's Rachel's. 65 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: It's really gonna be tough to be and I'm just 66 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: so excited to going off our favorite. We just had 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: an interview that I last night could not sleep over. 68 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: I was having stress dreams all night and we just 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: interviewed Clayton and now I need to go to I'm 70 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: literally I need to go to acupuncture right now because 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: of how stressed out that interview just made. 72 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: Me, please release austress and don't bring it back true. 73 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: Those in the forehead, Oh, what are. 74 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: Your thought in the forehead is sending me? Because I'm like, 75 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely picturing them right now. I'm gonna send you 76 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: a picture, no, please do? Can that actually be like 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: the cover photo for this week's episode the acupuncture needles 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: in your forehead? 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I want to know your thoughts, Charity, 80 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: because I have so much history with Clayton and you 81 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: had just only met him at AFR or was that 82 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: the only time? 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think we met Grant season of AFR, I believe, 84 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: and even then I was like very brief, so I 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: didn't really get to like hang out and spend quality 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: time with him. But I think I learned enough within 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: the first like fifteen minutes of chatting and seeing you know, correct, 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: It's very interesting, I will say, like I'm and this 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: is like the EmPATH in me. I have such a 90 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: soft spot spot in my heart for just his story 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: and like obviously what he's been dealing with for the 92 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: past year with the case, but even just following him 93 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: after his season or y'all season on The Bachelor, it 94 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: just was so chaotic. So I don't think I ever 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: really got like a full like read or understanding of 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: really who this guy is. And I will say probably 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: to this day, I don't think I still do, but 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: I know that there's there's a level in him that 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: is learning and trying to grow and trying to evolve. 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: But I do get what you are saying, or like 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: the things that you kind of shared with me that 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: makes Clayton just sometimes complicated and a little problematic. I 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: don't even want to say problematic, that's probably not the 104 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: best word. Just complex, like he really is, Like there's 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: a lot going on. 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's so funny because it's so hard with 107 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: me and Charity being virtual, like trying to like see 108 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: when the next is going to talk. With this interview, 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: I think I sat there so silently and I stared 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: at Charity's picture on zoom. 111 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: You cannot no I was getting at Charity. 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: And I feel like I just want to like say 113 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I told you off the podcast 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: for I feel like you interviewed both of us. 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: And honestly, I kind of it was like a couple's therapy, 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: but you guys are in a couple, like it's like posts, 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: you guys are coming to see me still after the breakup. 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: Like you guys need to leave each other. 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Alone at this point. 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: No, I was just trying to really, I was trying 121 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: to hold space. Where's my finger? That's my favorite? Wait? 122 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: Very good. I was trying to hold space for the 123 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: both of you guys, which you guys really made me 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: miss my job for a second there. I was like, 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: do I go back to work tomorrow? Let me know. 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: It's so difficult because I think there is this I 127 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: don't even know how to begin to explain this, and 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I think I've always tried so hard. We do see 129 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: each other outside of this, and we've had conversations outside 130 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: of this. We see each other, but not physically. I 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: mean like we see where each other's coming from. But 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: it's it's just like each time we talk, I find 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: something else that I'm like frustrated with. 134 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: Yes, and I sense that. I was like, it's happening 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: in this moment. Yeah, yes, And. 136 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: It's just these little moments that I don't think he 137 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: realizes he does. And that interview was great, and I 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: again see where he's coming from. Yeah, but it's just 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: like the little things he'll say, like I could have 140 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: taken the easy route on my season, and. 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, you mean by picking me? 142 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's just those things I think he. 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't realize that he's doing, and it's it's just like 144 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's hard because even listening to 145 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: his podcast, the first audio clip I hear is my 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: own voice feels like this thing that is just like 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a constant in my life. 148 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: At I'm sure he wants to get away from me, but. 149 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: We're just continue to go around. I was trying to 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: sense the vibes. I'm like, I think he really does 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: enjoy that you guys are on good term. Yes, yes, 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: which he is lucky for Hello, because I was like, 153 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: he's not so much with Gabby as we know, and. 154 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Then, which I think is fair. 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I think that is so fair. And I've always said 156 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: that that he's lucky that he does have the relationships 157 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: he has from his. 158 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: Season, right, which I like, I don't even think I try. 159 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: I was trying to like allude to that in our 160 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: interview with him, but I was obviously I was like, 161 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: I know, I like, I definitely sided it more. It 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: came across that I sided more so with Clayton. My 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: whole thing was obviously, Gabby can feel how she feels, 164 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: and she's entitled to feel exactly how she feels. I 165 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: don't blame her, but I also see his perspective of like, yeah, 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: like he's just dancing. Wasn't necessary? Unnecessary, and that's I 167 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: think I think a normal person can understand that, So right, right, yeah, 168 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: but give her Tay, You're right, he is very fortunate 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: to still have a relationship with you and Susie. 170 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: So I was really surprised. 171 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know we kind of touched on this 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: during the interview that Susie's taking part in the podcast. 173 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. So I mean we listen to, like, 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: I think there's two episodes out right now, and if 175 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: you I believe, in episode two, you start to hear 176 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: kind of Susie gives some takes or you know, kind 177 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: of timeline even like details of what happened and leading 178 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: up to everything that unfolded him and that woman. Yeah, 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: it is crazy, and I was not expecting to hear her, 180 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: but she is there there, and I was like, Okay, 181 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad that he does. Like, you know, I know 182 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: that is very familiar in probably a safe space for him. 183 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: So I do love that she is able to kind 184 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: of provide that support for him. But yeah, very very 185 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: shocking to say. 186 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: It's shocking too because I think Susie has gone through 187 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like in the way of she 188 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: has had to be extremely supportive and she does it 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: obviously she wants to do it. But I think we 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: don't give Susie enough credit for she really is a 191 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: big pillar in like. 192 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: His healing journey. 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he's very very lucky to have Susie. 194 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: And I think she just continues to like every time 195 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm like she, I just like love her and I 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: want the best for her. 197 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: You know, it really threw me off. 198 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna say the same thing. 199 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, it made me feel I'm not gonna lie, it 200 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: made me feel a type of way, like not in 201 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: a bad way, but I just I felt something. I 202 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: was like, whoa when he was basically saying the catalyst 203 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: to the whole that woman in her situation the case, Yeah, 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: was because he saw Susie the week before. If I 205 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: heard that, and granted this is not to put anything 206 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: in Susie, but like if I heard that, of like, oh, 207 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: I went to go support or like see or catch 208 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: up with like a old friend pal of mine, and 209 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: then to hear him say like, oh, there were so 210 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: many emotions that came up that I had to like 211 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: kind of self medicate and cope this way. And then 212 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: that night is when he had nothing else to do 213 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: but to sit down and have a time with miss Laura. Oh, 214 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: it's I would be shocked. I would be very shook. 215 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 216 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if she does know this, because that is 217 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: exactly what I thought you were about to say. I've 218 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: never heard that of the story me either. 219 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: Me either. I was like, this is something, this is 220 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: actually really heavy. 221 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: I know, Oh there's so much. I mean, I feel 222 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: like put on her. 223 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, not that Clayton hasn't gone like he is 224 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: definitely going through it as well, but even going leading 225 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: up to our AFR, I mean they got piled on 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: after it was obviously very team Rachel and Gabby. 227 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: I mean, and then to go from that, and. 228 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean build yourself back up and then kind of 229 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: again be the catalyst into something else. For now, this 230 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: is taken over his life, it's. 231 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: His card in life is just. 232 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: Really and that's where I'm like, I really, I'm like 233 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: I want to sidebar him and not this is really 234 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: gonna sound invasive, but like from a former therapist perspective, 235 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just really curious to see what exactly 236 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: is like, you know, his therapy goals. Like I'm I 237 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: know he talked about like really becoming in tune with 238 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: his emotions, and I think that's huge, Like that's just 239 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: a very common problem. I don't want to say problem 240 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: common thing amongst men. So like I respect him so 241 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: much for even like admitting to that, but I'm very 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: curious of like, Okay, how is he you know, getting 243 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: over these hurdles or these things that I feel like 244 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: probably are the foundation or the reasons why he keeps 245 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: finding himself in certain situations. I wouldn't just be very 246 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: interested and curious, but. 247 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the crazy conversation. I'm shocked he wanted 248 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: to come on it all. I really am, But yeah 249 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: I am. 250 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: I am. 251 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Like I said, I feel like we get on a 252 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: good term and then we're kind of just like we don't. Yeah, 253 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: So I was surprised here out of I mean, our 254 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: podcast and an hour I would have assumed he would 255 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: have wanted to go on Golden Hour, but I mean 256 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: it was a good interview. 257 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: That would have been a safer option, right, yeah, yeah, 258 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: Well he likes. 259 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: To challenge himself. If I'm going to do anything in 260 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: this world is apparently just be Clayton's karma and so 261 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: many every time you think that you're alone, no, I'm 262 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: like the. 263 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: North You're the Northwest to he's Camving, You're Northwest to him, 264 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: Like he will never find peace. I don't want to 265 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: say that he will find peace in his life. He 266 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: will never find peace around you. 267 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Yes, anytime it's around me the universe Like cannot scream louder. 268 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: I feel like God actually crazy, Oh my gosh, so much, 269 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: so much, We've done so much to come. What are 270 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: you excited about? Like for what's next? 271 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: I'm I will be honest, like apart from Rachel Lindsay, 272 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: like I enjoyed dissecting these men. I'm so ready for 273 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: this season to press play, so I can. I mean 274 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: you don't understand, like you guys think the episodes are 275 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: getting good, They're about to become the greatest of greats, 276 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: Like the recaps are about to go crazy. I am 277 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: so ready. 278 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Cannot wait for your recap, I think going over talking 279 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: about Rachel's time and the way that she ate Jad alive. 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: I just see this happening again in real time with 281 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: you just divide these mad. 282 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: It's almost like yes, and the answer to that is yes, 283 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do it very tastefully, but also I 284 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: might throw a little curveball in there and do it distastefully. 285 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: Who knows. It depends on how I feel that day. 286 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: But what I will say, I think there's also part 287 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: of me too, is because we're on the other side 288 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: as a lead. Again, this is all back to like 289 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: how you have to conduct yourself, like you know, during 290 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: while your season's airing. Obviously I had a whole press 291 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: tour following, and you you get more like truth like 292 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: after that. But like, I feel like now this is 293 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: like almost like my even though these are not guys 294 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: that I date. It, it's like these are what I 295 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: wanted to do to the guys on my season, and 296 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, now I'm having this opportunity, So all bets 297 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: are off. Hello. 298 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm so excited too, because Charity, I think people don't 299 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: realize like how absolutely hilarious you are. 300 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: On your season. You were so serious. 301 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited for people to see the un serious, 302 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: hilarious takes that you are going to have. Correct, correct, 303 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. 304 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: We're it's about to be insane for the all the 305 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: right reasons. I'm so excited. 306 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I think we only have like two more interviews and 307 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: then we're going to be straight into the guys. 308 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? Oh my god, it's it's happening. 309 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: And one of them is Taylor, which is like, you're 310 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna be fantastic to pick her brain. It's happening. 311 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm so ready. I'm so ready. 312 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we have some questions. Should we get into it? 313 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 314 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we could do two episodes with the 315 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: amount of questions. 316 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're yappers. 317 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Okay, first question, who from Bachelor Nation has you blocked? 318 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: Nobody that I know of or that I care? 319 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so lucky. 320 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Is that rude? 321 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: No? I feel like that means you're nice. 322 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: No, I was saying nobody that, So I'm whoever has 323 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: me blocked, I'm not looking for you, So. 324 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: That's she has no idea. Unbothered, truly truly unbothered. 325 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: I feel for you. 326 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm blocked by molt. I think there's I will just 327 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: say I think there's one or two from Gen season. 328 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: Why are the man blocking you? 329 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm usually very nice to them on recaps. 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I've had some opinions crazy. I stand by them. However, 331 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: my ex fiance does still have me blocked, and. 332 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: For again, for all the right reasons. I think that's 333 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: the healthiest. 334 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Or he deleted his Instagram. That's still like unclear to. 335 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: Me, but that would that would be the even more 336 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: healthier option. 337 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I still I feel. 338 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: Bad about that one a little. 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: But do you want to know? What? Do you want to? So? 340 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: I need to tell you something crazy? 341 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: Not you bulldozing your way through that. 342 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Listen. There was like an interview he did like two 343 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: years a year and a half ago where he said 344 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: that I called him okay, and he's always been blocked 345 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: on my phone and I still to this day, I'm like, 346 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: how did I call him? Or who called? Like how 347 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: did that happen? Because I'm sure he was like thinking I. 348 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: Did difficult situations make you forget things? Truly? 349 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Isn't there? I mean I don't even know how it 350 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: would have his number to call him? 351 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: No, that's insane to that crazy. Damn, that's not the 352 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: that's not the case. 353 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: I genuinely I'm like, how did he get called? I 354 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: would tell you if I called him. 355 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: No, I believe you. I know, I know. I don't 356 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: even know if you're curious why you would, so I 357 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: know for a fact you did not. 358 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I did it in my sleep or something. Perhaps 359 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a mystery to this day. I 360 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: like this one, Charity. I'm fick, this is perfect for you. 361 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: See, I know you about to try something. 362 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: What's your most unpopular Bachelor opinion? 363 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: Hmm? The most un popular Bachelor opinion? Hmmm, Like, is. 364 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: There anyone that you think should have ended up with 365 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: someone or that it would have worked out better. 366 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: In the recent years. No, I'll be very honest, I 367 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: don't think. I don't. I really don't think grant in 368 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: anybody from his season, if I'm being truthful, and granted, 369 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: I don't know all the girls that well, but I 370 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: know enough Jin Absolutely no, she was not dealt with 371 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: the great cards as we know. I'm trying to think. 372 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: I think if you and Gabby had a I mean, 373 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: this is not even unpopular. I think this is pretty popular. 374 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 2: If you guys had separate seasons, I think they yeah 375 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: been a lot different. 376 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine us having separate seasons really 377 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: looking back. 378 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: No, I think you absolutely. I think he would have 379 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: even probably ended up like your final Granted we have 380 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: tastes and types, presses, whatever, but I think he would 381 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: have not even ended up with Tina. 382 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: You don't think if I had the same cast, I 383 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: think I would have still picked the same funnel for really, 384 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: mm hmmm. 385 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: I think you just would have had more time, And 386 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's so like you would have 387 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: had more time to like really Foster versus like, Okay, 388 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: I'm just picking because he's cute. Like I think that's 389 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: what we all resort to, is like picking based off 390 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: of what's I level versus like okay, let's get let's 391 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: get inside the heart. 392 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I'm trying to think of one 393 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of mine, my unpopular opinion. I think I think there's 394 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, people get in trouble. I 395 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: think with the fantasy suites a lot, And I think 396 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: you should be able to handle your fantasy suite however 397 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: you want. And I think no one should be able 398 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: to say anything about it. I think what happens behind 399 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: that door, hello, No one deserves an opinion on it, 400 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: That's what I think. 401 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: And people always gives that one pair of keys. 402 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: Hello, people have an opinion? 403 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: You should you shouldn't? You did, you didn't. I just 404 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: think whatever happens behind the door, like, once that door 405 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: is closed, you don't have a say on it. 406 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: It's it is very like it's a taboo topic I 407 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: feel like, and very obviously polarizing because I think the 408 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: only thing is is because oh, it's multiple parties involved. Granted, 409 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: if you were dating someone in the real world and 410 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this is like the date night where 411 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: your relationship goes to the next level. No one's gonna 412 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: like obviously judge you for it or like have anything 413 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: to say. But it's because it's the simple fact that, oh, 414 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: there's more than one person involved. But I'm like, this 415 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: is also the nature of the show, right, And I 416 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: think is the nature of the show. 417 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: I remember going into mind or like when I was 418 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor side and you just kind of like 419 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: accept the fact you're just you do. 420 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: You really have tormentalize and be like I'm separating. This 421 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: does not exist like it. You really have to have it. 422 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you trust the lead. They're gonna do what 423 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: they need to do. And if it's you, it's you. 424 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: If it's not, it's not. But I think whatever they 425 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: decide to do, it's like to. 426 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: Them, you have to be so like just I don't 427 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: even want to say accepting. It's it's obviously probably very 428 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: hard to accept, but like you just have to be understanding. 429 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: That's probably the best. Truly, we can say right now. 430 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: The fantasy suite, what happens behind the door? That would 431 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: be my unpopular Limorge. 432 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 2: I know you would never know. 433 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: The next question is, Charity, can you spell one secret 434 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: from your fantasy suite? 435 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: I cannot, and I will not. Thank you so much. 436 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: I mean, she said. 437 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely not this. We just said what happens behind that door? 438 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: I only had, So there's that one went home early 439 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: for the right reasons. So we're moving on. Thank you. 440 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I love how it didn't include Rachel. 441 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Rachel, would you ever date Sean again? 442 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: Whoever put this question on this list of questions is 443 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: so crazy that I think gave Blake a heart attack 444 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: for the twenty four hours that it was happening. 445 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 446 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: He could not understand what I was doing. Sean's she's nice. 447 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: Sean isn't nice, Like honestly, I know he gets a 448 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: lot of like he yeah, grant, he is a little 449 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: bit of a character on TV. But when I say 450 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: people who have shown up and just been very consistent, 451 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: he really is a consistent friend to Dotton and I. 452 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: So I do appreciate you know, Sean, Yes, yeah, check 453 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: in my book. 454 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: I let him have it a little bit at the time. 455 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: It was deserved, for sure, for sure for it. 456 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I've loved that that question was on there. Jerny, what's 457 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: the most annoying comment you get online? 458 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: The most annoying comment I get online? It's definitely died down. 459 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: I don't I feel like there was a there was 460 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: a point where most annoying comment I get online. I'm 461 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: like actually trying to like. 462 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: I feel like everything everyone comments anything. 463 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: I think there was like for a point in time 464 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: in like Fresh after like me and Dawton's after we 465 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: got off of my season that I think people really 466 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: just assumed that I wanted to be in the spotlight 467 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: always and like I wasn't being fair to Dowton. I 468 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: don't know I feel like that was like one that 469 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: I got a lot but stars, yes, and it's like 470 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: she just can't help herself but to and I'm like, 471 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: you guys, actually okay, like I'm showing up for work. 472 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: This is work for me. 473 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I fancy with the Stars is such an 474 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: honor and the fact that he was supporting you, it's 475 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: like major relationship better. 476 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: I think if it made it out of Dancing with 477 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: the Stars, I always say that was that was the test, 478 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: and not even that it was a test. But I'm 479 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: like the fact that we got through it and we 480 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: got through it so well, like I was not even worried, 481 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: he was not worried. But I'm like it definitely made 482 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: us like stronger for sure. But also like if anyone 483 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: knows me, knows how much I prioritize Dotten, Like I'm 484 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 2: always thinking about, oh, how can I help you in 485 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: this way or how whatever it may be, Like he 486 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: is my priority and vice versa, I'm his priority, so 487 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: that's how it should be. So yeah, it is. 488 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious though, with the people who have gone through 489 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and it hasn't worked out, I'm 490 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: wondering if they sometimes have used it like as an 491 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: excuse because it happens so quickly after the show that yeah, 492 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: it's not working out. 493 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: I'm so busy with answering at the Star. 494 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: It's not very easy that that happens so much. 495 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: Okay, Rachel, it's your turn to answer that. What do 496 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 2: you feel like is the comment you get the most 497 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: or a misconception about you. 498 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: Mine is literally on every single thing I post, people 499 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: are like, oh my god, like I don't even recognize you, 500 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: like all this plastic surgery. I'm like, I've gotten my 501 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: boobs done two times and the rest is botox and 502 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: filler that I've gotten since before. Like when I first 503 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: stepped out the Limo, I had fresh flip filler, I 504 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: had fresh botox. I think I've gotten cheek fillers since. 505 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: But they act as if I, well, this isn't everyone. Yes, 506 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: and I just I it's so hard for me. They 507 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: hate the eyebrows, they hate the blonde hair. I feel 508 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: like for me, they really and this isn't everyone. 509 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: But I feel very confined to the way I look. 510 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: On one season and any changes I choose to do after. 511 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I should be able to do if 512 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: I wanted. I haven't one day if I wanted to 513 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: do something. It just feels like people want me to 514 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: look twenty five years old and I'm turning thirty. My 515 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: health has been different. Yes, things look different, I completely understand, 516 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: but it's out of my control and people act like 517 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not. And I think that has been frustrating for me. 518 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get that, And I feel like you 519 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: kind of said it best when you were like, oh, 520 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: like people kind of confine you to how they first 521 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: initially saw you, which is crazy because as we all know, 522 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: people like change evolved, you know, what they how they 523 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: want to style their hair. They may not want to 524 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: style it, how they stout it all their twenties, whatever 525 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: it may be. But it's like it always brings me 526 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: back to this that I sometimes think people like who 527 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: watch reality TV or just TV in general, like if 528 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: it if we were like doing a scripted show, that 529 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: would make sense and we were actors, but we're not. 530 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: We're like actual humans. I think people have these narratives 531 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: and like either from how they initially saw us the 532 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: first time is what they stick to you or in 533 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: their head, we're like completely a different like a built 534 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: up character, and it's like we have like sims, like 535 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: we're literally sims in their brains. Yes, and it's like 536 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: we have to like always be how they last saw us. 537 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 2: There's no change, there's no involvement in there, nothing is 538 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: nothing is no room for error. Hello, let's just say 539 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: I agree. 540 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: And this isn't everyone, but I think it's the loudest people. 541 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: And I even see it on a lot of our 542 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: former alumni. It's anytime someone posts a video or a 543 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: podcast of something, one of the main comments is always, 544 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: she looks so much different she this. I just never 545 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: see those comments. For the men, I never see like 546 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 1: those comments. 547 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: It's so difficult. 548 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: It feels like across the board this comment of she's unrecognizable. 549 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: I just don't understand how we've gotten to that point 550 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: where people think it's okay to yeah things like that. 551 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: I think there's so much going on behind the scenes 552 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: in people's lives that no one is privy to, and 553 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: we chose to. 554 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: Put ourselves out there one hundred percent correct. 555 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: But I've made full TikTok saying this is what I've 556 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: gotten done every single year, and people are like, you 557 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: got a facelift, Like I wish, I wish, I'm saving 558 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: up because I'm gonna get the Chris Jenner and thirty years. 559 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: It's going in the piggy bag for that. I'm getting it. 560 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: And she looks and Lindsay Lohan, Hello, doctor Nash. 561 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 3: That's sad and this is. 562 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: Not everyone, but it is so frustrating because I just 563 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. And yeah, goodness, didn't 564 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: mean to go on a rant there. 565 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: That's okay, we need an event. Okay, I'll ask you. Okay, 566 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: don't give me an obviously answer, give me a good one. 567 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: Who do you think is an epiitode of a bachelor villain? 568 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: The worst bachelor villain? 569 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: Wait, say that again? 570 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: In epitome? Did I say? No? Actually, what did you say? 571 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: I said epitome? What the fuck? I swear? I'm not 572 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: having interview. 573 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: It's messing with my mind. I can't think straight. 574 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: I literally have never That's the first time I've ever 575 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: like said that word. That's not even at this episode. Also, no, 576 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: that is embarrassing. Okay, that's also. 577 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: Saying in the episode You're welcome listeners. 578 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 2: No, you guys are actually no, I'm gonna get canceled. 579 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: They're really they already think I'm stupid. Because I have 580 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: grammatical errors on my stories that I'm like the whole 581 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: world have grammatical errors. Anyhow, it is what it is. 582 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: I have not had a meal since nine am this morning. 583 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: It's a rough day for us. 584 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: We just everyone. My brain is. The database is still loading. Okay, okay, okay, 585 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: we'll start over. Rachel, Yes, who do you think is 586 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: the epitome of a Bachelor villain? 587 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: I think the obvious answer would be Bentley from Ashley's season. 588 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: I went back and revisited that, and I think we 589 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: have never seen anything to that level. The way he 590 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: was saying I don't like her, I don't find her 591 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: attractive is crazy. I cannot even imagine what that was 592 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: like to watch back. I wish in a way that 593 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: we've had a villain in the recent seasons that I 594 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: could pull from, but I can't think of anyone that 595 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: was that crazy. We did have a villain on my 596 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: season with a Bachelor, and she would like okay, so 597 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember, her name was 598 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: Shaney and she would literally terrorize us in the house. 599 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: I was so scared. Yes, oh my god, Yes, there 600 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: are things that happened on camera that didn't even air. 601 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: She would just pull things out of thin air, and 602 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: then when I watched it back, she would literally be like, 603 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: I fake cried, I fake apologize them, fuck you bitches, 604 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, is she real? Like I think she's 605 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of an iconic villain and we forget about her. 606 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: No, it's actually crazy because now that you said that, 607 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: I think like we would always reference to her. And 608 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: I used to joke with the producers. I was like, 609 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: if there was a girl like granted Zach season, I mean, 610 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: I really got blessed, and I got blessed, not even 611 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: just for like my sanity on this season, but everything 612 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: that obviously transpired after that. If I had somebody like 613 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: say in the house, I would have never became back 614 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: to the Red I would have gotten the worst edit 615 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: of life, because I'm telling you, I would have let 616 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: her have it like that. Oh my gosh, I I 617 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: remember now that you said. I'm like, it just all 618 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: came back to my memory. She was actually like it was. 619 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: She would make herself cry in front of the group 620 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: and her she was like, give me the oscar in 621 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: the background. Then she'd go make up with Clayton and 622 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: we just all were like, we. 623 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: Need me the Oscar No, I'm not even kidding. I 624 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: don't play it like I don't and the fake shit 625 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: like I can't. So I would I would have. Yeah, 626 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: she would have gotten to me on all season if 627 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: it was. 628 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: It was crazy. We won't go into a tangent. But 629 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: who do you think is the epitome of a villain? 630 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: I hate you, guys, I really like please like I 631 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: can't you guys like I'm doing everything. 632 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: No, you just facilitated one of the most difficult interviews 633 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I think we will have on this podcast. And people 634 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: need to appreciate that that just happened. 635 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Thirty minutes ago, and my brain is recovering. 636 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: She she did that full podcast alone without me even 637 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: preparing her that I was. 638 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: I haven't had a sip of water, and I'm like dehydrated, 639 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: like I am in the desert right now. Okay, I'm going. 640 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Through pretty stop. 641 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm so serious. I need you'll understand. The brain is 642 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: on two percent low power mode. I can't even look 643 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: at the word this. I don't even know how to say. 644 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: I actually don't. I think I just made my brain 645 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: unable to ever say it correctly. I can't just changed. 646 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Sony, I can't read. 647 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: Okay, who do I think is the villain the best villain? 648 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm thinking. I'm thinking, honestly, probably he wasn't 649 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: even crazy. I mean he was crazy. Let me not 650 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: say that he wasn't even crazy. 651 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm like Louis, Okay, that was like manipulation. 652 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like that, and that's where yea, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, 653 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: for sure. 654 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Has there been anyone that's done that since him? 655 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I really don't, because what you're 656 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: not gonna do is ever give me an ultimatum. That's 657 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: what you're never gonna do. Do not serve me an ultimatum. 658 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Nonetheless, on my season, ultimatums across the Bachelor board have 659 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: always rubbed me. 660 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: It's crazy because again, here you are, and as our fan, 661 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: our audience likes to say, you know what show you 662 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: signed up for, Well, then you know what show you 663 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: signed up for. It's very it's simple as that. Don't 664 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: tell me this or that because I'll give you that. 665 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah No. That one was crazy too, 666 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: and I feel like it had one of the most 667 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: iconic moments after the podium. 668 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: Move no insane. That was so good saying and I 669 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: love it. Top top five, top top five? 670 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: What is your top well, what's your top Bachelor. 671 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: Moment in all of the history. 672 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a moment that. 673 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: Like recent years, because I'm like, all the history is crazy. 674 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: I know, that's insane. 675 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: Recent years. I loved one of my favorite moments or 676 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to surprise me. And one 677 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: of the moments that's really shocked me was on Joey's 678 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: season when they had Kelsey and Daisy in the car. 679 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: No, I I mean, I was like, how is this unfolding? 680 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: I really did for a second. I said, now I 681 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: do know something, but I'm not sure. Now. I have 682 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: never been so shocked that they're both about to go 683 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: up to him like crazy two girls at the podium 684 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: final bros, let's do it right now. 685 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: I was that was shocking. 686 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: I was scared. Yeah, No, that actually was a good, 687 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: a good shocker moment. 688 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: I will say, oh, this is kind of messy. Are 689 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: there any Bachelor fan favorites that you think are overrated? Oh? 690 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: Come on, now, you don't. You guys can't do that. 691 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,439 Speaker 3: I know, I actually don't. 692 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I don't know. 693 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: That are overrated, you guys, Really, that's a conversation that 694 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: I don't think I have time for and will This 695 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: is no shade to anybody. Well, if we. 696 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: Visit this or we go to carries out and have 697 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: a couple of thousands of one exactly after that in there. 698 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I have a list too, I have a 699 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: I have a long list, and that list it's not 700 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: there's no tea or shape. Well it is tea, no shade. 701 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: The problem is is, yeah, the reasons behind it. I 702 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 2: have to explain and give context to you because otherwise 703 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: people will be quick to write me off. And there's 704 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: nothing wrong. But I think people just understand where I'm 705 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: coming from. 706 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it. 707 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: So we'll do it. You know, if you guys just 708 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: keep tuning in to actually Happy Hour, we'll get that 709 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: snuck in one of these episodes. Soon after a glass, 710 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: a big glass. 711 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: After a huge glass. Have you ever had an awkward 712 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: or heated interaction with someone from Bachelor Nation? 713 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. 714 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: I don't think I have either. 715 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: I really don't confront unless I need to. 716 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't meet a lot of people 717 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: in person. People think that we have met a lot 718 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: of bachelonation and I would say I haven't met majority, 719 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: yeah unless they're out. 720 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: Of there a fr ooh do. 721 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: You have one? 722 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: But I can't answer this. 723 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: Okay, that add that to the list of care Yeah, 724 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm bring it up. I cannot imagine you getting into 725 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: any altercations. 726 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: No, And that's the thing I don't that again, probably 727 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: another misconception. Obviously, it's like what was my little baby 728 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: picture on the little cure? So like quick to like, 729 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: no bullshit in your comment. Correct, that's a given. But 730 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: the thing is is like I don't like I don't 731 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 2: like confronting. I don't like it. I just love for 732 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: there to be peace. I love for there to be 733 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: like people having a good time, feeling good Like that 734 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: is like my that's my aura, Like that is what 735 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 2: I want to give off to people. That's what I 736 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: want people to feel. So with that being said, I 737 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: am not I am good at confronting, but I don't 738 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: like to do it, and I honestly percy avoid it. 739 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: So unless it's necessary, which there has been two singular 740 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: moments that I can count in my head. But it 741 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 2: was like just really just trying to get down to 742 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: the nitty gritty of like what exactly is going on here? 743 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 2: And this was. 744 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: All like it it did sound your birthday. 745 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it sounds juicy. One was like 746 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: three texts and hopefully whoever listens, if you listen to 747 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: this message, then you probably wouldn't listen. What did Brooklyn 748 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: say if the shoe fit lays the bitch up way? 749 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: And one was while we were filming something and that's 750 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: all I can say, and we'll rush for the Carrie 751 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 2: episode very soon. 752 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: Was it at the vander Pump Villa? I'm right, perhaps, 753 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't know when is that coming out? 754 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: In April? 755 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: I think I personally cannot wait just to watch baby 756 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: d just make out in the hot tub. 757 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: Listen, there was just foolishness everywhere. 758 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: If people have never seen our baby just make out 759 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: with tongue in all facination, that's true. 760 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it was such a shocker 761 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: for me and Dawton because I feel like the thing 762 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: about me and Dawton and his friend group, like with 763 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 2: the boys from his season and then with me, like 764 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 2: we're both kind of like the facilitators of like fun 765 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 2: in a little bit of chaos, Like we both like 766 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 2: make sure people are having, you know, a good time. 767 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: I think it's like like the that's just understood. So 768 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: when we got into that villa and then it almost 769 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: was like the script flipped on us. We were like expecting, okay, 770 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: like come on people, we didn't even have to do anything. 771 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, there's there's some different energy in 772 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: you guys right now. I don't know what Jess I 773 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: didn't recognize because I said, no, why are you doing 774 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: all of this? Like who are you? 775 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: Like? 776 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: Who are you? 777 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: People have no idea how much we were trying to 778 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: get just to kiss with tongue in Paradise. 779 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: Kiss with tongue in paradise. This is the girl who 780 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 2: is so beautiful, the most, so gorgeous, the nicest, turns 781 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: down first dates because she just can't get herself together. 782 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: Turns down like NFL players, turns down everyone left, right center. 783 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 2: And so when she got there, I said, oh, okay, 784 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: sister wants to get engaged at the end of the year, 785 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: Like yeah, she's she's making moves like. 786 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 3: She said, ring before a spring. 787 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: It was literally, Mercedes is always, as we know, down 788 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: for a good time. She too had a time. I said, 789 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: what's going on? One Ariel had a time, Maria had 790 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 2: a time. Yes, the boys, I said, Okay, so we 791 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: did this right. I guess it's chaos and confusion. 792 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: Which not wait, that needs to come out sooner it does. 793 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, actually, bump it up, literally bumping. I need 794 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 2: no distractions during Taylor's episode Taylor season. 795 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: I literally just can. 796 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 2: I hope it's at the end. I think it will 797 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 2: be so anyway, there are so many more questions I 798 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: know we need to ask, but I think, you know, 799 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: we should save some of these four our next episode perhaps, 800 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: or like we said, the juicy ones for when we 801 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: have our our glasses of mine, don't don't you agree? 802 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: We should have everyone send in the questions they want 803 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: us to answer after we've had a couple of glasses 804 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: of whine. 805 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 2: I care correct because there's like good ones and they're 806 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: all great questions. But I want, if you really want 807 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 2: some tea to be spilled all over the coffee table, 808 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: submit those crystal coffee table like area, truly the crystal 809 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: coffee table. We'll get this answer. But I think, yeah, 810 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this was a good little wrap, like a 811 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 2: good little I love these No, honestly, these are my 812 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: favorite because I'm like, I don't. I don't have to 813 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 2: think I'm just existing. 814 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: This is like, don't have to facilitate couple's therapy. 815 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: Don't have to brain off and then or turn my 816 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: brain on and then turn it off and forget to 817 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: turn it back on. Yeah, that that happened. 818 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: So everyone give Charity her flowers for that interview. 819 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: You guys. 820 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: That was just you, guys, No, just love us. 821 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 2: What did I say? A good the epitome? Yep, the 822 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: eptum's Actually do's gonna be like I can't, I can't. 823 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 824 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: Okay, we're just the girls. Okay, I I think that 825 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: is all for today's episode. You guys, this was fun. 826 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: I love you always, Rachel, Like truly, we are locked 827 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: in for life at this point, literally love you and 828 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: so much to look ahead too for the rest of 829 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 2: this year and Taylor season coming up. So thank you 830 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 2: to all of our listeners. 831 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. We are so excited for more interviews 832 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: coming up, more fun episodes with me and Charity, so 833 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: make sure you stay tuned and we'll see you next time. 834 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: Bye guys, you next time. Bye bye,