1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: is up straight Fire, fam. I'm back Jason McIntyre here 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: on streight Fire for Thursday, July sixth. Hope everybody had 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: a phenomenal July fourth holiday weekend. I was in humid 5 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: Orlando for my son's volleyball tournament. They have the Junior 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Nationals down there in Orlando. It was no joke, like 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: ninety three degrees at nine am, ninety nine sweltering humidity. 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: If if you haven't been to Orlando in July, never 9 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: go there. It was absolutely brutal. The volleyball was fun. 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: They did well. They advanced in the gold bracket, lost 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: in the quarterfinals. But it was a good, good season Orlando, though, 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like I remember it. I got 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of family down there, so I was able 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: to connect with them. But it is just arable. I mean, 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: the oppressive heat in July not great. Did not see 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: any fireworks, had brutal flight delays land back in la 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: at like what twelve fifty in the morning on July fifth, 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: and then had to wake up at the ass crack 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: to go and host the herd. I think it went well. 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of running on fumes at the end, 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: made a couple of Aaron Rodgers drug jokes. It just 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: got out of there as quickly as I could. But 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: it seems like I didn't miss too much. In the 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: sports world. Some NBA happenings nothing obscene yet. Damian Lillard 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: will see, James Harden will see. I think some teams 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: made pretty good changes. I did a quick list here. 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: I think the Mavericks did a good job in the offseason. 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: We'll dive deeper into it later, because you know next 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: week there's not gonna be Jack Squat to talk about. 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: I think the MAVs are winners. I think the Rockets 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: are winners. I love, love, love what the Lakers did 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: good and it's gracious. Rob g must be unbearable when 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: we talked to him tomorrow. And I think the Warriors 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: got worse. I think the Nuggets got worse. Clippers haven't 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: done a damn thing. West is gonna be highly competitive East. 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: You know the Bucks were able to retain Middleton and 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: brook Lopez. It feels like band aid on a gaping wound. 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's gonna hold up. We'll see. 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: They were the number one seed but then they got 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: their butts kicked in the first round. Yes, the honest 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: was hurt, but they had double digit leads in multiple 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: games that ended up choking it all away. East will 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: be East is a little more wide opened. So, you know, 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: before I get to the main topic of the day, 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: which is super interesting and we'll dive into, I just 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: want to quickly touch on this NBA in Season tournament. So, 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: according to the news, uh the NBA play in Tournament, 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: which is the in season tournament. Not actually it's not 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: the plane, it's the NBA in season tournament. It's gonna 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: be held December seventh and December ninth. And the first 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: thing that jumped out of me was genius scheduling by 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the end, because usually the college football championship weekend is 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the first weekend in December. Now, I haven't checked the 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: calendar yet, I don't know if they're you know, they 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: pushed it back a weekend that would not be great 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: for the NBA. But I do believe historically the uh 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: NO first weekend, the Thanksgiving weekend is rivalry weekend and 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: then usually followed by championship weekend the first weekend in December. 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: So if the NBA is doing it the seventh and 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: the ninth. That's a big win. College football should be done. 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: If not, bad job NBA. And then you know, I 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: got some pushback saying, hey, well, Thursday Night Football on 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: December seventh is the the Patriots are facing the Steelers, 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and those are blue bloods and kind of sort of 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, could we at least see what 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: the NBA and in season tournament looks like. I don't 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: know who's gonna be playing, but it does feel like 68 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: there could be some juice. Here's the other reason. The 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: NBA usually opens well like Halloween, weak ish, and then 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: there's a big lull because everybody goes back to football. 71 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: But the first week, everybody's excited, Oh, I can't wait 72 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to see Webbin Yama and this new team and all 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: these you know, new guys together. And then there's like 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: a hiatus and then Christmas Day. The NBA has like 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: this sixth schedule. Now, in recent years, the NFL has 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: started to put games on Christmas more than one, and 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: Christmas is kind of coming back to the NFL. I 78 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: think in twenty twenty three, I can have multiple TVs 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: and I can enjoy both of them. My remote control works, 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: so I'm not going to get in this battle of oh, 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: who is better. I like both. I can gamble on both. 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: I don't really do NBA fantasy, but I like NFL fantasy, 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm watching both. And I think this 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: seventh and ninth thing on December, it would technically be 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: the second weekend December. I think it is a beautiful 86 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: move by the NBA to generate interest leading into the 87 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: Christmas slate. You could basically use the seventh and ninth 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: in season tournament as like a spring board to Christmas 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Day games. I don't hate that at all. Now, I 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: know people are going to push back all the NFL 91 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: is going to destroy it. Of course, the NFL is 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: gonna beat it, but it ain't like there's great college 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: basketball that weekend. College football usually not games that weekend, 94 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: and again that's usually I don't see where the harm 95 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: is in playing. You know, if I can get I 96 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: don't know, Lebron against Curry kind of interesting in a 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: marquee game where it has meaning as opposed to just 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: a regular season game. If I can get Yannis against Jokic, 99 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of interest to me. I don't know about 100 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: their masses, but to me, that's interesting when you can 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: get the best players going against each other. So I 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: like the n season tournament. We'll see how it shakes out. 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: Is it a money play? I'm sure there's money involved 104 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: and that's why these things happen. But again, a lot 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: of people are averse to change. I'm not one of those. 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I think change is great. Which leads into the big 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: story here in the NBA, and that is a report 108 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: that Damian Lillard only wants to go to Miami. Only 109 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: is the keyword here, and this is going to piss 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people off. Mark Spears is reporting it, 111 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Sham's is saying it's Miami or nothing. Right now for Dame, 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people are reporting. One guy's not reporting 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: it is Adrian wojs Narowski. File that one away. He's 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the one who's not saying this yet. We can try 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: to read breadcrumbs here in a second. So Dame only 116 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: wants to go to Miami. On the surface, to me, like, yeah, 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Miami's a pretty damn good team. They 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: got Bam Outabayo, they got Jimmy Butler, they just went 119 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: to the finals. They got a great culture. They lost 120 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: both their starting guards, Struce and Vincent. What's the matter here, 121 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: what's the problem? Ah ah ah? But here we go, 122 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Here we go. But Jay, this is like when Kevin 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Durant left OKC and went to the Warriors. He's going 124 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: to like a great team. Yeah. The best players want 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: to play with other great players, right. I mean the 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: reason Dame is ready to be finished with Portland is 127 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: because they traded his buddy CJ. McCollum. And he's sitting 128 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: around there with like Jeremy Grant and Yusuf Nurkic. Not 129 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to knock them, they're solid players. I think it combines 130 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: zero All Star games. But you know, like you want 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: to play with good players, that's what it takes to win. Well, Jay, 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: what about when Kevin Durant said he was out on 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Brooklyn he won only want to go to Phoenix. Yeah, 134 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: things fell apart in Brooklyn. Kyrie Irving won a wall. 135 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to play with Devin Brooker, wouldn't you? 136 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: And if I was friends with Chris Paul and I'm not, 137 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't you? Like? I don't see the harm in this stuff? 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: But Jay, remember remember and I had to pull up 139 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: this quote in the bubble August twenty twenty, Dame Lillard 140 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: gotten a war of words with the Clippers at the time. Now, 141 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: the paper Clips had acquired Patrick Beverley, well they had 142 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley, but they had acquired Paul George. And in 143 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the bubble, Dame missed a couple free throws, and that 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: pesky Nat Beverly, who I don't even think was playing 145 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: in the game, started mocking the Dame time celebration. That's 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: what Patrick Beverly does, laughing because he miss free throws. 147 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: And then after the game, Paul George makes some comments 148 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: and Portland the run is over. So after the game, 149 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Paul George makes all these comments and Damian Lillard goes 150 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: in the comments section. Never argue in the comment section. 151 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: And as I said, Kevin Durant, don't go on Twitter spaces. 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Nothing to gain, no win here. Damian Lillard goes in 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: the comment section and says, yeah, Paul George, you was 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: running from the grind after I knocked you out of OKC. 155 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: Remember when Dame knocked him out of the playoffs the 156 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: four to one win in twenty nineteen, it was like 157 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: a year before. Maybe he was like seventeen months because 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the bubble pushed it back a little bit. But he 159 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: basically said, you're running from the grind. And then he said, 160 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you boys is chumps, and I think many would agree 161 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley kind of is a chump. But Dame of 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: course then got mocked and everybody. He said, well, Dame, 163 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you know you're not even in the playoffs. In the 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: bubble and Paul George and Kawhi they got something cooking. Okay, 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: So that was twenty twenty. Now the reason Dame talked 166 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: about they running from the grind because Paul George did 167 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: he was in in Indiana, demanded a trade, tried to 168 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: get to the Lakers right, couldn't get to the Lakers, 169 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: and ends up in Okac. He's like, all right, I'll 170 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: play with Russ. I remember vividly they're smoking cigars when 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: it was announced Paul George he's gonna go to Okay. See. 172 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Then of course it fails because Dame knocked him out, 173 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: and Paul George says, oh, Kawhi Leonard wants to me 174 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: with the Clippers. Yeah, yeah, I'll go there. And that's 175 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: where Dane saying you're running from the grind. This at 176 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: the time twenty nineteen twenty twenty, Dame Lillard took Portland 177 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to the conference finals. This needs to be remembered. When 178 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: you hear radio guys yelling and making fun of Dame Lillard, 179 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: just remember this. In twenty nineteen, Dame Lillard was grinding 180 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: with CJ. McCollum and a bunch of other dudes who 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't think are in the league anymore or barely playing, 182 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: and they got to the conference finals. They got swept 183 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: by the Warriors. KD did not play. He was injured. 184 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: Remember he tried to come back against Toronto and then 185 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: they had the Achilles. But Dame Lillard grinding away with 186 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: c Jim McCollum. In the first round, they knock out 187 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: Okay See. In the second round, they were the underdog 188 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: against Denver and in Game seven on the road one 189 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: in Denver, CJ. McCollum is the guy who had the 190 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: game there. And then they go to the conference finals 191 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: and Curry averages thirty seven. But I looked at who 192 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Portland had in twenty nineteen when they went to the 193 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: conference finals, the one time they did with Dan Are 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: you ready for this? Their third leading scorer was Myers Leonard. 195 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: What's he's best known for his career is making I 196 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: believe like anti semitic or racial remarks on on like 197 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: a video game. He was a gaming or something said 198 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: some idiotic stuff. Basically, I banished from the league. He 199 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: since come back, but he's barely playing. Their fourth leading 200 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: scorer was a guy by the name of Moe Herkless. 201 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Their fifth leading scorers Rodney Hood, the former lefty from 202 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: Duke Folks. Meyers, Leonard, Moharkless, Rodney Hood. That is what 203 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard had around him in twenty nineteen. Okay, so 204 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: now fast forward to now, Damian Lillard, I only want 205 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: to play in Miami. But Dave, you talked about running 206 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: from the grind. You made fun of Paul George. Now 207 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: you're doing exactly what he did. No, I'm sorry, that's 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: not accurate. Circumstances have changed. Circumstances have totally changed. In 209 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Dame was fighting a good fight with his 210 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: guys Meyers, Leonard, Rodney Hood, Alfaarka Munhu. Yes, Alfaica Minhu 211 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: started four games against the worst they got swept. Okay, 212 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: now fast forward to twenty twenty three. What does Dame 213 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: have around him. They traded CJ. McCollum. Portland's not delivering 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: him a title contender. Of course he's allowed to ask out. 215 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: There are no rules to this. Damian Lilar should not 216 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: be forced to stay to grind away in the salt 217 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: mines when he's got nobody. They traded away his guys 218 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: c J. McCollum. They're trying to win with Shadon Sharp. 219 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: Who's what nineteen eighteen nineteen Anfrety Simons. I like him, 220 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: But Paul George. Mind you was playing with Russell Westbrook 221 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: and Okac when he ran, Oh wait kawhi' is Colin? 222 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: I gotta take this. I got upgrade. Dame fought the 223 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: good fight. Circumstances have changed, and now he's out. I 224 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: don't see a problem with this. I don't now A 225 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna bag on Dave Jason, you're 226 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: not being consistent well in this is not a black 227 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: or white issue. Circumstances have changed. Dame's team is very 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: different than it was in twenty nineteen when he knocked 229 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: out Oka. See Paul George when he left a year later, 230 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know he yeah, I guess it was 231 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: a year after after he signed with Oka. See they 232 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: thought they had something with him and Russ Paul Joe 233 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: was like, now I'm anna upgrade to Kawhi. So like, 234 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't totally get this. Now we've got Josh here 235 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: producing as Rob g is out today. But Josh, I know, 236 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Rob and many other people of course on social media, 237 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: because that's what people do, are going to bag on 238 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard saying, oh, yeah, he only wants to play 239 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: for the Heat who just went to the conference finals. Like, 240 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: I got no problem with it. I don't know if 241 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: you do. 242 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I necessarily have a problem with it. 243 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 3: I just think Dame built his brand so much on 244 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: loyalty and going like grinding it out, you know, the 245 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: hard way, and he's deciding, hey, you know what, send 246 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: me to a team that just made the finals. Oh 247 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: and by the way, make sure that Jimmy Butler and 248 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 3: Bam are still there. He's setting all these circumstances. So 249 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: it seems like he's taking the easy way out. Now. 250 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I would go that far to 251 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: say that about Dame, but I think that it does 252 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: look bad. I mean, he could say I'm open to 253 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: the Sixers, I'm open to the Celtics, I'm open to 254 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: the Clippers, but he's not. He's going to a very 255 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: specific team that had a very certain amount of success 256 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: last year going to the NBA Finals, was a couple 257 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 3: of games away from winning the championship. It just makes 258 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: it seem like everything he stood for he doesn't stand 259 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: for anymore. 260 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is tough, but our to pin you down. 261 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: What is the statute of limitations on grinding away? How 262 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: long do you have to grind away on a certain 263 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: team in a certain franchise? Is there a number of games? 264 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Is there a number of seasons? Because Dame ain't what 265 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Lebron's doing. Lebron's putting together teams everywhere he goes. Dame's 266 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: not doing that by all accounts. The front office was 267 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: making the choices, and I don't know the front officers 268 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: gave Jeremy Grant like seven million, seven hundred million dollars 269 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: whatever is ridiculous contract was and like, I don't know, 270 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: your Dame. You see that. It's like, okay, now Dame 271 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: did want Jeremy Grant. But again, like I put a 272 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of the blame on the front office if they're 273 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: not delivering the athletes can want out, Like, I don't 274 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: think Dame should have to stay in Portland forever. He 275 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: was grinding away. 276 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Yes, and. 277 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Does it really look bad to go to Miami. I 278 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: think they were in the play in Josh, Yeah, they 279 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: nearly were knocked out by the Bulls. 280 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: You're right, you're talking about a. 281 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Team that was like what though, I think they were 282 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: the seventh, eighth or nine, I forget, but they lost 283 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: to the Hawks at home. Trey Younger gave my bet 284 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: on and I remember that because it was a nice 285 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: win for the Hawks. And then the Bulls are leading 286 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: the Heat in Miami. I think with like four minutes 287 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: left before the Bulls do what they do and implode. 288 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: Otherwise the Heat aren't even in the playoffs. Now you 289 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: could ask, is Dame going to that Miami team if 290 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: they don't even if they get bounced from the play in. 291 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: We don't answer. 292 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean that's a question. Yeah, I don't think so. 293 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 294 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: I think if if they get bounced off in the playow, 295 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't think Dame's looking at the Heat as a 296 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: team he wants. 297 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: To go to. 298 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't. 299 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is we could we could try this. 300 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: So Strus and Strus got ridiculous money from the Cavs 301 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: gavee Vincent got I think eleven million per season to 302 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: go to the Lakers. That's based on this playoff run. Right, 303 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: those guys are not getting paid like that if they 304 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: don't make this run to the finals. Would you agree? Yes, 305 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Caleb Martin was said to be put in a deal. 306 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Anybody want to Caleb Martin if he doesn't have that 307 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: playoff run, like, he's got no market. So you know, 308 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Hero, when did he get hurt? Was it in 309 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: the Hawks game or was it? No? 310 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't at series, right, so that Tyler Hero. 311 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Would not have been hurt. His value could be up 312 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: because he didn't get hurt. Remember this is Tyler Hero. 313 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: I think he dropped a forty burger in the bubble? 314 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: Did he not? In one game thirty seven? 315 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: He was going crazy in the bubble. That's where he 316 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: got his name from him. 317 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Right, So, in a way, like this heat playoff run 318 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,359 Speaker 1: elevated Shrewson Vincent big time. They got paid. It downgraded 319 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Hero because wait, you lose your third best player and 320 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: you go to the finals. So all of a sudden 321 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: It's like, is Tyler hero any good? Which he must 322 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: feel so disrespected. So a lot changed just on a 323 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: playoff run. We can't get into Dame's mind and say 324 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: whether or not he would still want to go to 325 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: the Heat, but you know, you look at them losing 326 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: their starting back court of free agency, it's like, Dame 327 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: goes there and now this is a tough one, Josh. 328 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: If Dame goes to Philly, that is Joel Embiid's team, 329 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: He's going to another team. If Dame goes to ball 330 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: and it sounds like Dame doesn't want to go to Boston, 331 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: but people are pushing this anyway, that's Tatum's team. Okay. 332 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: If Dame goes to Milwaukee and that's clearly not gonna happen, 333 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: that's Giannis's team. If Dame goes to Miami, I mean 334 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I would say it's Jimmy Butler's team, but he didn't 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: draft Jimmy Butler. He's I think Minnesota, Philly, Chicago. This 336 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: is fourteen. Now he's obviously the guy there. He's the 337 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: guy everybody looks up to. But you know it ain't 338 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Bam out of Bio. They did draft him, but he's 339 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: clearly not better than Dame, and then like, who's better 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Dame or Jimmy Butler, And in the playoff, Jimmy Butler's 341 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: been unbelievable, but Dame is one of the most clutch 342 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: playoff performers ever with to walk off series wins. So 343 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean there's a there's an argument that Dame goes 344 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: to Miami and is completely totally beloved instantly, and maybe 345 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: it's his team. I don't know, like. 346 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Who we go to guy? For sure, he's the go 347 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: to guy. 348 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm a Heat fan, I want the 349 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 3: ball in games ends like I love Jimmy, Jimmy, thanks 350 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: for everything you've done for us in the past, but 351 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: late in the game, give me, Give Dame the ball 352 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: for sure. So I think you can make a case 353 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: that you know Dame goes to Miami, Dame is the 354 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: guy there, while Jimmy still may be the leader in 355 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: the locker room. I just think a lot of it, 356 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: a lot of the vitual towards Dame is the fact 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: that he's not open to anywhere else. You can win 358 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 3: a championship in Philadelphia, if you're paired with Joel Embiid, 359 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: you can win a championship and well, if you go 360 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: with Jason Tatum. 361 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: What's up? 362 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Hold on, Josh? You think? Okay, So first of all, 363 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: let me hear this deal that gets Dame to Philly, 364 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: because the only one I've heard is a three teamer? 365 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Is that the one you're talking about? 366 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 367 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Yes, the three teams? 368 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: So Philly is now losing James Harden and Tyrese Maxy 369 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: just starting backcourt. So I don't know, there's forty points 370 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: a game, and they're replacing it with Dame Lillard, who's 371 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: I think older than Harden whatever close to the same, 372 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: but Dame's got a lot of tread on his sires. 373 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: And then I don't even know who your other starting 374 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: guard is. And if you want to say Norman Powell's 375 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: in it, are they better with Dame and Norman Powells 376 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: than they were with Harden. 377 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: And MAXI I think you can make the case for 378 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: it for sure. Dame and Norman played together in Portland 379 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 3: and played very well together. Norman does not need the 380 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: ball in the way that Maxine Harden do. I think 381 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: game and then be can have more chemistry or if 382 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: not the same amount of chemistry as Hardened embiid had. 383 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: I think it does fit for sure. Yeah, they've got 384 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: Terrence Man goes over as well. Terrence Man might go 385 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: over to six Ers as well in that trade. Wait, 386 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: terrorce Man will go to Portland because doesn't Harden? Okay, 387 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: would they get Man and Maxie or is that too much? 388 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: That's too much? I thought Man would go to Philadelphia. 389 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I like that. And where does Tobias Harris? Does he 390 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: stay or do is his expiring have value for Portland? 391 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: I think it has value, but I think he stays. 392 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: I would try to hold onto Tobias. 393 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: So then you're going embiid Tobias Powell, Dame and. 394 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: Man Man will be off the bench. Yeah, and then 395 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: you can you can you have fillers. You know there's 396 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: a trade deadline. 397 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: You're looking at like three new starters. 398 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, are the. 399 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: No? 400 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm better than the Celtics possibly. I don't 401 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: know what the Celtics like. 402 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: Williams looks Grant. 403 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: They lost Marcus Smart, who you could argue is the 404 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: heart and soul the team. So I don't know how 405 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 3: they're gonna respond to that. Porzingis you know in his health. 406 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: You know they just acquired him, but is he going 407 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: to be around for the playoffs. 408 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 409 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: My point is that Dane can go to Philadelphia and 410 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: they can be contenders. Now, they may not be the 411 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: best right out the gate, but you can make an 412 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: argument that they can win the championship. And Dame, in 413 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: his own words, says that's all he wants. He just 414 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: wants a chance to contend. Well, if you go to Philadelphia, 415 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: you have a chance to contend, which is in his words, 416 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: what he wants. 417 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I guess you could make the argument that Philly did 418 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: push Boston to say then, but then the counter argument is, well, 419 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: the reason they did is because James Harden won two 420 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: games for them. Yeah, but Dame would do the same 421 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: thing late three. 422 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Game's not going to give you duds like 423 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: Harden gave you duds in that series as well. 424 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: Game is better than Harden right now. I would have 425 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: James Betten and Harden right now. 426 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: I just don't like losing Maxie, who's really good. And 427 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: if I'm Joel Embiid and I got to lose Harden 428 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and Maxi and all of a sudden, I'm looking all 429 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: these new guys, new coach, I don't know. I would 430 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: just be so livid if I was Embid. I mean, 431 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: my hot take on the Herd Wednesday was I think 432 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Joel and Bee should just go to the Sixers and 433 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 1: be like, trade me. I'm ready to be done here. 434 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: My value is as high as it's ever going to be. 435 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I just want VP. I'm twenty nine and I'm sick 436 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: of this process bullshit because I watched you guys mess 437 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: around for eight years. Do you pair me with Simmons? 438 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: You pay me with hard and I had Doc Rivers. 439 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: You know, I watch Jokich. If I'm Joel Embiid, I'm like, 440 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I just watched Jokiche win a title. They ad Aaron Gordon, 441 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: they win a title, They knocked off the war the Lakers. 442 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: They swept the Lakers like they got better. Look with 443 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the Nuggets put around Yokic, and I would say, look 444 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: at the Miami Heat. They just passed us Celtic. Scott 445 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: porzingis like everybody's doing something and you guys are now 446 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: trading Harden, Like, what are we doing for me? If 447 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm a Bid, I'm ready to go. And of course 448 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: the Knicks are a logical landing spot because Embiid's former 449 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: agent is Leon Rose, who's running the Knicks. You've got 450 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: the Knicks with a war chest of draft picks. I 451 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: think they have six or seven, and Josh is a 452 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: big Knicks guy. I think they have six or seven 453 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: first round picks that they. 454 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: Get trade. 455 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Now. The proximity makes it difficult because they're right up 456 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: by ninety five. You don't want to trade like in 457 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: the division for a team you're going to see a lot. 458 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: That being said, if the Sixers wanted to quickly press 459 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: the reboot button, you know there's a world where you 460 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: could Shay Harden goodbye. We'll take whatever we can get 461 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: expirings picks, Norm Powell's short one down, Joel Andbiid give 462 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: us picks expiring whatever from the Knicks will be middling team, 463 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: but we're rebuilding around young guys. Maxy Harris is gonna 464 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: be gone, and then next summer we can go big 465 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: game hunting and we have no bad contracts. Like there's 466 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: a world where they try that. But like Daryl Morey 467 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: is is sitting on like a two nine off suit 468 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: and he's trying to bluff and don't I don't see 469 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: a path here to to to Dame Lillard. Now, the 470 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: one team, Josh that I did here for Dame Lollard. 471 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: That's interesting is the San Antonio Spurs. Apparently he likes 472 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: the Spurs culture. I'm sure the stories will come out 473 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: after Day makes a pick. I love the Heat culture. 474 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I like the Spurs culture, you know, which is kind 475 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: of weak. But I'll tell you right now, like wem 476 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Bin Yama is that is the franchise there. He is, 477 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: even though he's nineteen, he's the guy. See everybody's San 478 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Antonio is going to see Wembin Yama. They're not going 479 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: to see Dame Lillard. I don't even know if they're 480 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: a playoff team with Damon wen Day. So not sure 481 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: what that sense that makes, unless there's a third move 482 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: to be made for the Spurs, but yeah, I don't. 483 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: It is Dame situation and Hardened situation, very weird. And 484 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: there's like a larger macro issue happening here where as 485 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: players are getting older, all of a sudden, they start 486 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: to quickly lose value. Kyrie Irving, you know, I know 487 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: he's got the off court stuff, but he didn't get 488 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: close to the five year or four or five year 489 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: max that he wanted. He did get one hundred and 490 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty six million, one hundred and twenty six million and 491 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: did a victory lap on Twitter as if it were something. 492 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: And he's probably gonna do the player option, meaning he's 493 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: only two more years in Dallas than he bounces. But like, 494 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, like some of these guys not really 495 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: getting the money. I think that they thought they would. 496 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook took like three point five million, three point 497 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: seven million a year to play for the Clippers. So 498 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: it's a weird time in the NBA where last summer 499 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert fetched everything, Donovan Mitchell got everything. Josh, we 500 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: would agree Damian Lillard's better than both those players, right, Yeah, 501 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: he's not getting anything if you're with the other. I 502 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: think the other lesson, Josh, when your star says he 503 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: wants out or even has a hint that they're I 504 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: don't know, get in that out of town. You don't 505 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: know the fans anything. That's just how it works. Like, yeah, 506 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I know you, it's you don't want to overreact to, 507 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, panic. But I just look at this Dame situation. 508 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: If they had chipp him out last summer, they would 509 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: have got way more. And who knows, maybe they're bad 510 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: enough that they get one ban Yama. You know, they 511 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: were bad, but not bad enough to get one Banyama. 512 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: So you trade the star early, you maximize the value. 513 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: And and I'm sure some of this is on Dame, 514 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: right Josh, because he didn't want to trade, He wanted 515 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: to build. He wanted really hard to build that title there. 516 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: But you know, I give I give Dame credit for 517 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: wanting to stay in Portland. 518 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, at the end of the day, 519 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: I I know what I said, what I said, but 520 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: I don't blame Dame for staying in Portland and wanting 521 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: to win a title, wanting to turn it around. But 522 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: there are things like Chauncey Billups being hired. I mean, 523 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: you're in win now mode and Dame the coach that 524 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: you want as a co who never was a head 525 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: coach and on any level of basketball ever. I mean 526 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: that's that's a little bit on Dame as well. And 527 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: the players that he wanted to play with. And you know, 528 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: from from what I hear, he wanted to play with 529 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: Mike Keill Bridges. It's like, Okay, so you want to 530 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: play for Contender, but you're telling me you to bring 531 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: Mike Keill Bridges over, Like that's not the guy who's 532 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: going to meet you, who can contender. So for me, 533 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: I think Dame ows like should own a little bit 534 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: of responsibility here Joe Cronin the GM of the Blazers 535 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: as well. To me, it's more of a relationship that 536 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 3: just didn't work out. Not necessarily someone has to be blamed. 537 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, to me, I just think Dame, I want 538 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: to know why he's just specifically choosing Miami because it 539 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't feel right, doesn't fit his brand right. 540 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: His whole brand was about loyalty. His whole brand was 541 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: about the grind and getting things the hard way. What 542 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: is it about Miami? You know it can't just be 543 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: because they made the finals and it's an easy way 544 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: to a championship. I wish you would come out and 545 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: say something. 546 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: Well, remember Woe is not reporting this and could this 547 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: be you know, Dame's team pushing this out there, pushing 548 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: this to get the media off the scent of whatever 549 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: he is cooking up elsewhere. And you know, listen, I 550 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: personally don't think Dame Bridges and Cam Johnson and Brooklyn 551 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: is doing anything and tossing Nick Claxton as before, but 552 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: that is a Dames team and b that's a wing 553 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: heavy team with a lot of shooting and rim protection 554 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: in Claxton. That I mean in the East, that could 555 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: be the six seed, maybe the five. 556 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be five to six seed, but it's 557 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: not winning anything. 558 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Well, my listen and Miami. Miami was a seven or 559 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: eight or I don't even remember what they were, and 560 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: they would you might as well stay in Portland for that. 561 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: You might as well. I mean Jeremy Bank, I know. 562 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: Everyone's making jokes about him in the big deal, but 563 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: he's not that bad of basketball player. You have pieces there. 564 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: Nurkis as a decent big man when he's healthy. Anthony 565 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: Simons is a nice young play player, hit and sharp, 566 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: same thing, nice young player. 567 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: They have pieces there in Portland. 568 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: Look at the West fifteen D and like, I think 569 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: the Rockets are going to be a playoffe next year. 570 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: That's one of my hot takes. Like Yoka Isa is 571 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: a game changer's coach. I was so impressed. Obviously, the 572 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: way he flamed out was not great and the stories 573 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: you hear are not great, but as a coach as 574 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: a leader of men, pretty damn good. Yeah, got them 575 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: to the finals. You know they had kind of been 576 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: butting up against the Eastern Conference finals and then they 577 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: get breakthrough go to the finals. They were up I 578 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: think to one when Curry had that massive game in 579 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: the garden or maybe Udoka is a champion. But also 580 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: you know they had Fred van Vliet, Dylan Brooks probably 581 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: still have another move. They could offload Kevin Porter junior 582 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: somewhere like they got they got a roster. I'm just telling. 583 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: I think the West, like the Pelicans remember fully formed 584 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: last year. I think even without Zion, they were like 585 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: first in the West in December, so like they're a 586 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: top ten team. Minnesota is still a top ten The 587 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: under gonna be good this year. Under going to be 588 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: buying the Thunder with Cheded Holmgren, Like this is a 589 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: weird west Man Portland all the might be the worst 590 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: team in the West after they trade Dame lower you right, Well, 591 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: the Spurs are gonna be Spurs. 592 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: Are gonna be bad, bad to They'll be bad. 593 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: All right. That's it for today's podcast. We'll be back tomorrow. 594 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Talk to you then.