Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
Speaker 1: the story of the day.
Speaker 3: So another plane crash, but this time twenty minutes from
Speaker 3: our house, which is our houses, which is so insane
Speaker 3: to think about.
Speaker 1: The news has been crazy for the past couple weeks,
Speaker 1: Like I can't, as Nancy would say, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm drinking from the fire hydrant, Like it's just coming
Speaker 1: so fast all the time.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: I feel like we just talked to everyone on Thursday
Speaker 1: about the other plane crash, and now it's like we're
Speaker 1: here right.
Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, And I was thinking, you know, I keep
Speaker 3: seeing I kept seeing memes last week that was like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's till January, And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: this month is going by extra long compared to normal.
Speaker 3: And then to think about how we started the year with,
Speaker 3: you know, the incident in New Orleans and in Vegas,
Speaker 3: and now we're ending the month quite literally with a
Speaker 3: bang in the Philadelphia area. It's super scary.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: I was driving to Boston and you texted me and
Speaker 3: just said another plane crash. I didn't even know it
Speaker 3: was near us because I just left my house and
Speaker 3: it turns out it was in Northeast Philadelphia just after
Speaker 3: six pm. This ambulance jet carrying six people, within under
Speaker 3: a minute after they took off from the Northeast Airport
Speaker 3: crashed into the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so terrifying that the videos and the photos
Speaker 1: are just you can't believe something like that would happen
Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. And now I can't help but think
Speaker 1: about it, like planes fly over our house all day
Speaker 1: all the time. Are the airport's right there, and you
Speaker 1: just don't even think that there's these literal like bombs
Speaker 1: flying over your house at any moment could fall and
Speaker 1: just destroy your neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, you know, I don't think everybody obviously
Speaker 3: knew what happened at first, and I think that's what
Speaker 3: a lot of people thought, that it was a bum
Speaker 3: And when you see videos of this going down, it
Speaker 3: literally looks like a missile is dropping from the sky
Speaker 3: and this mushroom as cloud goes up. What would you
Speaker 3: even think if you saw something like that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel terrible for anyone that had
Speaker 1: to experience that, And I've obviously we're from this area.
Speaker 1: I've been up that way a million times. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: I know the area so well, so it's easier for
Speaker 1: me to picture in my head what that would have
Speaker 1: been like. And just thankfully because it was rush hour
Speaker 1: on a Friday night, and I just think, by like
Speaker 1: the grace of God, that a traffic light had changed
Speaker 1: and there was that gap in between or something, because
Speaker 1: there just wasn't that many cars that you would see
Speaker 1: to be expected in Philadelphia rush hour traffic. Thank God,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. I mean, people got hurt, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: as bad as it could have been.
Speaker 3: No, totally. And I was thinking of everybody driving on
Speaker 3: the street because the explosion was huge. I mean you
Speaker 3: could see it from all different areas of that of
Speaker 3: the city and I would just see.
Speaker 1: The hole in the ground. Yeah, there's like an eight
Speaker 1: foot crater in the ground. It's so outrageous. I want
Speaker 1: to go see it, actually, but they probably won't let
Speaker 1: us anywhere near there.
Speaker 3: No, I doubt the Press Pass. Actually. I think they
Speaker 3: just opened traffic up around that area really yesterday again.
Speaker 3: But we should try to go on a field trip
Speaker 3: tomorrow and see if they'll let us near it because
Speaker 3: I am interested in seeing it. And the first thing
Speaker 3: I think when I see all these dash cam videos
Speaker 3: is what would you possibly think if you were in traffic?
Speaker 3: I mean, I told you Ricky had been driving home
Speaker 3: around that area only an hour before that, So I
Speaker 3: was like, what would you have thought if you just
Speaker 3: saw an explosion like a couple miles ahead of you
Speaker 3: on this major road? And he was like, I would
Speaker 3: have assumed it was a bomb or something. I don't
Speaker 3: even know what I would have done or turned around
Speaker 3: because people go into shock.
Speaker 1: I know you could see by the video that people
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's just if you guys haven't seen
Speaker 1: any of the videos. I did put some clips up
Speaker 1: in the gross room. And then of course the aftermath
Speaker 1: was terrible. There was videos going around of a person
Speaker 1: that was on fire, which is just just awful. We
Speaker 1: know one person on the ground died so far, and
Speaker 1: there's a woman missing. You know that, right?
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think I saw there was a missing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said that her sister's missing and she was
Speaker 1: at her boyfriends who lives around there, and he said
Speaker 1: he she had left around the time to go get
Speaker 1: something to eat.
Speaker 3: Oh my God, but like.
Speaker 1: And honestly, like that impact is so heavy and deep,
Speaker 1: like there is a possibility that someone was standing near
Speaker 1: there when that happened. But as of right now, and
Speaker 1: the mayor does keep saying that like this, the injury
Speaker 1: toll might go up, the death toll might go up,
Speaker 1: we just don't know right now everything. So I mean,
Speaker 1: what be the chances that she was just missing a
Speaker 1: forty some year old person, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is extremely odd. Right now we know all
Speaker 3: six people that were on the plane died. Not that
Speaker 3: that's not sad by itself, but this has an extra
Speaker 3: layer to it, which it was this little girl getting
Speaker 3: this treatment for a life threatening illness that she had.
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming she was going to.
Speaker 1: Chop right, because she was going to Shriners.
Speaker 3: Okay, she was going to Shriners. So she was getting
Speaker 3: this treatment and she was there for at least a month.
Speaker 3: I mean there, she was a very sick kid.
Speaker 1: And it's just think about how terrible it is as
Speaker 1: a parent to have a sick kid that's that sick,
Speaker 1: that has to go on an airplane to go get
Speaker 1: treatment in another country, and then for this to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so on that plane was the little girl, her mother,
Speaker 3: a doctor, a paramedic, and the two pilots. They were
Speaker 3: going back to Mexico. It's really really upsetting that she
Speaker 3: possibly got this treatment that maybe saved her life or
Speaker 3: at least gave her a little bit of, you know,
Speaker 3: calm in the craziness that she was going through with
Speaker 3: her illness, and then to have this tragedy happen. They're
Speaker 3: also saying right now that this thirty three year old
Speaker 3: woman is in a medically induced coma because she had
Speaker 3: seventy percent of her body burned.
Speaker 1: We also know that the worst thing ever. I just
Speaker 1: feel so terrible for that woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's the child. This ten year old
Speaker 3: little hero tried to save his sister from the falling debris.
Speaker 3: He got impaled in the head, but it seems like
Speaker 3: he's doing okay right now. And then the mayor had
Speaker 3: said two other people are in critical condition in the hospital.
Speaker 1: So there was another video going around of a guy
Speaker 1: sitting in the diner and it flew through the window
Speaker 1: and it knocked his baseball hat off. It did hit
Speaker 1: him in the head too, so I know that he
Speaker 1: was hospitalized with some kind of head trauma, but it
Speaker 1: didn't look like if it did hit his head, it
Speaker 1: looked like it was very superficial hopefully. But I mean
Speaker 1: something flying like that, shrapnel flying from a plane accident
Speaker 1: like that could be equivalent to getting shot. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just fast and a piece of metal flying like
Speaker 1: that at you could cause lacerations or just the impact
Speaker 1: of it, because it could have caused them a brain injury,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So how freaking crazy And
Speaker 1: it's all on video. I mean, so many people are outside.
Speaker 1: It's a Friday night in the city, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, even worse is like all these
Speaker 3: people are injured. There's parts of the neighborhood that are
Speaker 3: destroyed from the debris and the explosion, and we have
Speaker 3: to talk about the psychological trauma people are going to
Speaker 3: be facing. Because I don't know if most people have
Speaker 3: seen this, but a lot of our listeners were sending
Speaker 3: this our way, which there was body parts just all
Speaker 3: over the street in people's houses. There was a full
Speaker 3: blown person on a roof.
Speaker 1: I don't I know, it's just one of the of
Speaker 1: the body parts in a person's house is so disturbing.
Speaker 1: And this spot woman was getting interviewed and saying that
Speaker 1: she thought that she she you know, she smelled smoke
Speaker 1: or something, and then she was like, there was a
Speaker 1: piece of a plane in my house. Like how outrageous
Speaker 1: is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was the most disturbing picture for me
Speaker 3: was there was parts of a human that seemingly went
Speaker 3: through somebody's ceiling into their bedroom. So imagine going into
Speaker 3: your bedroom and there's a deceased person that was part
Speaker 3: of an explosion that just came out of the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and I can't help but think because
Speaker 1: we just had the plane accident in DC last week,
Speaker 1: which had multiple fatalities, so many more than this one,
Speaker 1: and thinking like, thank god that fell over the water,
Speaker 1: because if that fell over the city right there, there's
Speaker 1: there's Alexandria right there, or there's Washington, DC. Like, if
Speaker 1: that plane crash happened over the city, that would have
Speaker 1: been catastrophic as well. Imagine a plane of that size
Speaker 1: with you know what I mean, with that many people,
Speaker 1: All of the people on board would have done as
Speaker 1: well as people on the ground would have gotten injured too.
Speaker 1: So it's at least it's lucky that it fell into
Speaker 1: the water in that case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really lucky. And then speaking of that case,
Speaker 3: there's you know, they're still doing an investigation, and with
Speaker 3: the Philly crash they don't. They're not going to know
Speaker 3: what happened for a while because you know, this just happened.
Speaker 3: It takes some time.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: In the DC case, they did recover the black box,
Speaker 3: so I think that'll have a lot of telling information
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: They just did in last night in Philly too, they
Speaker 1: found a hole, so yeah, they were able to Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they'll be able to figure it out. I mean,
Speaker 1: even if they could figure it out. At this point,
Speaker 1: who cares it happened, right, It's not like you're going
Speaker 1: to change anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess they want to see if, like
Speaker 3: you know, if it was human error or if the
Speaker 3: plane had an error, that maybe they need to look
Speaker 3: at the other models and adjust. That's why they have
Speaker 3: to look into it.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying though, It's just like.
Speaker 3: But with the d gosh, they have a temporary morgue
Speaker 3: setup also because of so many bodies, which is crazy
Speaker 3: to think about. I'm assuming the people in the Philly
Speaker 3: case went to the me right, so yeah, they would
Speaker 3: in that case, since it wasn't that many people. And
Speaker 3: that's what I was going to tell you, the difference
Speaker 3: between putting like a makeshift more. I mean, six or
Speaker 3: seven people. Isn't that many people for a Philadelphia Medical
Speaker 3: Examiner's office, especially because honestly, six of those people with
Speaker 3: the exception of the guy or whatever body was on
Speaker 3: the roof there that they were in pieces and going
Speaker 3: in a body bag like they're not even you know,
Speaker 3: they're going to have to separate them and figure out what.
Speaker 1: Belongs to who. But there's not even intact people. The
Speaker 1: person on the ground too, I don't know who died
Speaker 1: on the ground and what the circumstances were there. The
Speaker 1: DC one's a little bit different because there are what
Speaker 1: is there. There's sixty seven from the one plane, and
Speaker 1: then there was four from the helicopter.
Speaker 3: Right now, sixty four from the plane, three from the helicopter.
Speaker 1: Okay, so sixty seven all together. But that's a lot
Speaker 1: of bodies. So they set up a makeshift more right
Speaker 1: outside of the site. They do that like they did
Speaker 1: that for nine to eleven and stuff like that. When
Speaker 1: there's a mess casualty event, and they'll go through all
Speaker 1: of the bodies because in the DC case, for example,
Speaker 1: and I don't know this because obviously I'm not working
Speaker 1: on that case, but you could see the fuselages in
Speaker 1: the water and it's intact, which makes me think that
Speaker 1: those bodies are are intact. There were some of them
Speaker 1: that were intact, but then you had an explosion area
Speaker 1: like similar to what just happened in the one in
Speaker 1: Philly that you might see parts, do you understand? Like,
Speaker 1: it just depends where the people were sitting. So they're
Speaker 1: going to set out beds and try to lay out
Speaker 1: each one and determine what you know, keep the ones intact,
Speaker 1: put the pieces together and try to identify every single
Speaker 1: one and the remains back to their families and stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's just going to take time because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also just saw this morning that two of
Speaker 3: the airport. Two airport workers got fired for releasing videos
Speaker 3: of the crash to news outlets.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why, I don't know, Like, do do you think
Speaker 1: something's wrong with that? Like I think the public should
Speaker 1: be able to see it. I think the public should
Speaker 1: be able to see it. But they're not only fired,
Speaker 1: they've been arrested with computer trustpassing, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if they signed something when they work there, that's like
Speaker 1: everything you see is confidential, and but people don't care
Speaker 1: about that stuff when things like this happen. They're just
Speaker 1: worried about getting it out. Yeah, I wonder why since
Speaker 1: there was already a couple of videos out, like why
Speaker 1: they want if there was a specific reason they thought
Speaker 1: that people should see it. Because it is a different
Speaker 1: angle and it does it looks It just looks crazy.
Speaker 1: You just watch it, and obviously I don't fly helicopters,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how those things work. But you
Speaker 1: just look at it and think, pretend you're driving a
Speaker 1: car right like you're looking out the front windshield and
Speaker 1: you would see something huge in front of you that
Speaker 1: that's just all.
Speaker 3: Well. I was reading yesterday that you know, they're starting
Speaker 3: to look into this now because of staffing issues, and
Speaker 3: there was the potential that one person was doing two
Speaker 3: people's jobs. But I think they're still trying to confirm
Speaker 3: that component of it. But another thing is they were
Speaker 3: saying that a lot of planes were landing around the
Speaker 3: same time, and when the air traffic control got in
Speaker 3: touch with the helicopter and asked if they had eyes
Speaker 3: on that specific aircraft and they said yes, that there's
Speaker 3: theories that they may have been looking at another plane
Speaker 3: because so many were landing at the same time. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's no sense of us even It's funny because it's
Speaker 1: like ever since COVID, everyone has opinions on the Internet,
Speaker 1: and there's all these funny things like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know everyone was a doctor. It's like I didn't know
Speaker 1: everyone was an airline pilot. Like it's just the speculation
Speaker 1: is stupid. I just look at it from a perspective
Speaker 1: of a person that drives a car, and I know
Speaker 1: it's completely different, but at the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: the theory is is that you take it from one
Speaker 1: place to another and you don't crash into things on
Speaker 1: the way, right. Yeah, So okay, so we're all about
Speaker 1: light on celebrity news this week. I don't think. I mean,
Speaker 1: a couple stupid things happen that aren't even worth talking
Speaker 1: about in my opinion. But since we're talking about celebrities,
Speaker 1: would you think about Kanye West's wife. I don't know
Speaker 1: why that's always in quotes his wife's outfit at the
Speaker 1: Grammys last night.
Speaker 3: Well, I was honestly surprised to see a red carpet
Speaker 3: photo of them, And of course she walks up in
Speaker 3: this fur coat, takes it off, and she's just wearing
Speaker 3: a dress that's completely see through, so you could see
Speaker 3: all of her breasts and her vagina and everything. So
Speaker 3: I'm not really surprised that happened. It was more surprised
Speaker 3: that they were on the carpet. But then later I
Speaker 3: found out that they just showed up uninvited, and I
Speaker 3: guess when they got to the door to get into
Speaker 3: the event, they were like, yeah, no, you're leaving.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that that's I don't know. I
Speaker 1: heard today that they were invited and he was nominated
Speaker 1: for something even so that was just kind of a
Speaker 1: rumor that was going around. But they did escort them
Speaker 1: off the property and make them leave afterwards, I guess
Speaker 1: for I mean, really, I don't know if there was
Speaker 1: a camera or something that a live camera. I mean,
Speaker 1: do they do live from the red carpet? Still? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so was that on? I mean, listen, any person that's
Speaker 1: filming him should know, especially how she's been dressing for
Speaker 1: the past couple of years should know what to expect.
Speaker 1: She's wearing a huge fur coat, Like, what did you
Speaker 1: think was going to happen?
Speaker 3: I did not see them on the E red carpet
Speaker 3: I was watching, but also I turned it on a
Speaker 3: little late. But I think at the time in which
Speaker 3: they arrived it would have been on there. I don't
Speaker 3: think E would have shown it because I know their
Speaker 3: feed is delayed because oftentimes when I'm watching award shows,
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Vogue or Vanity Fair and seeing the
Speaker 3: live uploads of the pictures, and by the time they're
Speaker 3: on E, it's like twenty minutes later sometimes, So I
Speaker 3: don't think it was coming up on quote live television,
Speaker 3: or if they did have footage of it, they chose
Speaker 3: not to err it because of what it was. But
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even think I could be
Speaker 3: wrong that E posted that. Look. I think it was
Speaker 3: more like.
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw a couple magazines were like not but
Speaker 1: there's like.
Speaker 3: A kid there. Yeah, I mean it's apropriate.
Speaker 1: It's just whatever. It's it's just so ridiculous. It's just
Speaker 1: I think it's so corny.
Speaker 3: On a petty note, I'm just gonna say, the Grammys
Speaker 3: are consistently the worst dressed award show all the time.
Speaker 3: I I rarely am like, wow, somebody looks really good.
Speaker 3: I of all the looks, the only one I could
Speaker 3: remember is Sabrina Carpenter, and because I like her vintagesthetic.
Speaker 3: But other than that, it's like, what was Will Smith's
Speaker 3: son doing with that weird house on his head? I
Speaker 3: just I can't get over it. I thought, Lady, God.
Speaker 1: My whole night consists of me getting screenshots of all
Speaker 1: of these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't care either, Like I'm texting you literally.
Speaker 1: Don't care the whole, the whole entire thing. I was
Speaker 1: just hearing something today about how like back in the day,
Speaker 1: like the Beatles got under five Grammys, Like the Beatles
Speaker 1: or Rolling Stones are just these crazy just popular music bands.
Speaker 1: And Beyonce's had like thirty three or something. It's just
Speaker 1: like the whole thing of it just seems like it's
Speaker 1: not even it's not even authentic, like this is the
Speaker 1: best and this is like I love Beyonce. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking shit on her, but this particular album I think
Speaker 1: most people would agree is not her finest work. So
Speaker 1: it's just like what is what's the category for to
Speaker 1: just pay someone off, because then the whole thing is
Speaker 1: just fake.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to just say too, is that I
Speaker 3: think that a lot of people, and this happens with
Speaker 3: the Oscars too, that they expect the most popular movie
Speaker 3: to win. But because the Academy members are voting, I
Speaker 3: think they're voting for the artistic integrity of the works,
Speaker 3: not necessarily what's the most popular. And if you want
Speaker 3: to look at Cowboy Carter, I think it's an achievement
Speaker 3: in itself because she shifted genres and artistically it was
Speaker 3: very well done and composed and put together. But I
Speaker 3: think everybody can agree it was definitely not the most
Speaker 3: popular one per se. But if the Academy members are
Speaker 3: voting on it based on the artistic level of it,
Speaker 3: the production value of it, I can see why that won.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of people have a lot
Speaker 3: of things to say.
Speaker 1: I can see why it won because people get paid
Speaker 1: off to you buy your spot. It's just like those
Speaker 1: signs that say, like this restaurant got best to South
Speaker 1: Jersey twenty twenty one. It's like that all that shit
Speaker 1: is just like paid off stuff. You know, it's the
Speaker 1: same I mean.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard to ignore that jay Z just
Speaker 3: complained that she's won the most Grammys ever and never
Speaker 3: won that particular award, and then this year for an
Speaker 3: album that wasn't necessarily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they had like were Taylor Swift presenting?
Speaker 1: Come on, all right, listen, Like I can't anymore with
Speaker 1: this whole shit. All right, let's talk about freak accidents.
Speaker 3: Okay, last week in Michigan, this five year old boy
Speaker 3: was receiving treatment in a hyperbaric chamber and suddenly it exploded,
Speaker 3: killing him instantly.
Speaker 1: So I guess they were at so normally a height.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3: I know we've talked about it before, but can you
Speaker 3: just refresh my memory because I don't really understand one
Speaker 3: hundred percent what it is.
Speaker 1: So sometimes when you have let's say, for example, because
Speaker 1: it's it's commonly used for this, if you have a
Speaker 1: wound that doesn't heal, and you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that the patient has as much oxygen exposure as possible
Speaker 1: because that'll help the wound heal. So you put them
Speaker 1: inside of this chamber and it has compressed like pressurized air,
Speaker 1: along with a higher percentage of oxygen that's in the
Speaker 1: environment and it helps accelerate healing in a wound, for example,
Speaker 1: And that's the FDA approved reason to use this. Right,
Speaker 1: some this clinic that this little kid was at was
Speaker 1: using this for other reasons that are not FDA approved.
Speaker 1: People use them for everything, add autism, migraines, depression, there's
Speaker 1: just like all these random things that people use them
Speaker 1: for off label, and generally they're safe because it's oxygen.
Speaker 1: I mean, just breathing it in is not dangerous. Right,
Speaker 1: So they didn't say why this five year old child
Speaker 1: was in there, but something happened to cause it to explode.
Speaker 1: They came in, the fire department came in and said
Speaker 1: that the kid was dead when they got there, which means,
Speaker 1: I mean, think about an explosion, how awful that is.
Speaker 1: And the mother was right next.
Speaker 3: To the kid.
Speaker 1: She got injured, but I mean think about what she saw.
Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine it. And it's just it.
Speaker 1: It's they didn't say why he was there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was a life saving thing or I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was one of these off label
Speaker 1: just like, let's try this because your kid's misbehaving. Thing.
Speaker 1: But how frickin' terrible.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's really horrible. I think
Speaker 3: the company's really stressing that this is a really rare event.
Speaker 3: Obviously they need to do an investigation and see exactly
Speaker 3: what sparked it, Like was this machine defective or was
Speaker 3: there some weird element in the room that made it combust.
Speaker 1: So it's this air that's compressed, is just it's very,
Speaker 1: very combustible. So I don't know if someone lit a flame.
Speaker 1: I don't see why someone would light a flame within
Speaker 1: the building, but there's just other things that could have
Speaker 1: sparked it. But I don't know. Just it's just so
Speaker 1: sad to think that is sad. I know, the companies
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Just think about from the mom's perspective.
Speaker 1: You don't want to say like, oh, this has never happened.
Speaker 1: That just doesn't help, you know.
Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't help because it did happen that one
Speaker 3: time and it was fatal. So I think they're putting
Speaker 3: that out so people aren't scared to continue getting the treatment,
Speaker 3: But it doesn't make it better for this particular fan.
Speaker 1: Crazy because I've never had it done, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys that have had something like this sun
Speaker 1: might be able to speak to it. But do you
Speaker 1: think that the common person that just goes and does
Speaker 1: this is aware that that's even a possibility. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm thinking. Like, do they make
Speaker 1: you sign a waiver and say like, hey, this might happen.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll see if I'm assuming a lawsuit's
Speaker 3: gonna come out of this in some yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious because it is being used off label
Speaker 1: too at that place, because I think that place does
Speaker 1: all off label, I'm pretty sure. So I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean they're allowed to, not that they're
Speaker 1: doing something they're not allowed.
Speaker 3: To, but but it's just not curious. It's just not
Speaker 3: approved treatment. But you know, as.
Speaker 1: Usual, we don't ever get a follow up on any case.
Speaker 1: If we ever do, we always tell you, guys, but
Speaker 1: we never do. You never hear anything again on certain things,
Speaker 1: or do.
Speaker 3: We get updates that you're purely conspiratorial and you're just like,
Speaker 3: I can't go on a show and just say this
Speaker 3: because there's somebody on red and said it. So I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: We got the worst, the worst conspiracies we were getting
Speaker 1: was the girl that died in the oven at Walmart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like the most insane things. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that out loud, because there's no
Speaker 1: way that that's true. Just yeah, I can't even believe
Speaker 1: people would spread the rumor because it just sounds so.
Speaker 3: Outrageous until an official news outlet writes it up as
Speaker 3: fact or there's a lawsuit, and then that's even skeptical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is skeptical, but at least it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more than right, it, I suppose. Okay, so God,
Speaker 1: this next one is, well, I'm wondering.
Speaker 3: How you feel because I know you've done this a
Speaker 3: couple of times, and by version, I have a story.
Speaker 3: I have a story about this actually all right. Back
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, this woman who is twenty years
Speaker 3: old through a party for her child, and at the party,
Speaker 3: people were, you know, taking the sucking helium out of
Speaker 3: balloons to make their voices really squeaky and high pitch.
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people do this. I think
Speaker 3: pretty much everybody in our life has done this at
Speaker 3: some party at some point in time. But they convinced
Speaker 3: this mother to do it, and when she did it,
Speaker 3: somebody turned up the flow on the canister with the
Speaker 3: helium and it immediately hit her in the back of
Speaker 3: the throat, according to her twin sister, and then she
Speaker 3: collapsed immediately.
Speaker 1: So I want so this is my story. A couple
Speaker 1: years ago, I was across the street with the neighbors
Speaker 1: with the kids and everything, and there was balloon at
Speaker 1: the house for whatever reason, and we started doing that
Speaker 1: to show the kids, like, hey, your voice, kids sound funny.
Speaker 1: So then the kids were like, can we do it?
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, you know what.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: This is probably really bad, just thinking I don't really
Speaker 1: have any experience with a person that died from this,
Speaker 1: like this particular case, but just from what I know
Speaker 1: from every carbon monoxide whatever. Let me just look this up, right,
Speaker 1: And my neighbor's a nurse, and we're just kind of like, eh, whatever,
Speaker 1: and we both look it up and we're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, just we would never let our kids do that.
Speaker 1: We freaked out. We're like, we're never doing that again.
Speaker 1: We're so sorry. This was this is terrible. We didn't
Speaker 1: think of this and stuff, and yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 1: the same as kind of same as having carbon monoxide
Speaker 1: exposure or huffing injuries. It just replaces the oxygen on
Speaker 1: your blood cells and you can die from asphyxia. And
Speaker 1: that's what happened in this case. So they say about
Speaker 1: putting warning labels and stuff, but people don't typically have
Speaker 1: warning labels on the balloons and things like that. Now
Speaker 1: we're talking about a totally different situation here, though. You
Speaker 1: can probably in theory, die from just breathing it in
Speaker 1: from a balloon, but this woman went directly up to
Speaker 1: the tank and sucked it out of the tank. And
Speaker 1: the air pressure because if you ever see a container
Speaker 1: like that, it says that it's under pressure, because it
Speaker 1: is because it could explode, just like the hyperbaric oxygen
Speaker 1: chamber we just talked about, right, So it's under so
Speaker 1: much pressure that just that stream of air going into
Speaker 1: your lungs could cause lung damage and then the amount
Speaker 1: of it going in could cause you to die. And
Speaker 1: that's what happened with her. Like you should absolutely never
Speaker 1: ever ever put your mouth off to something like that
Speaker 1: and try to suck it in.
Speaker 3: Well, So then they brought the canister to the coroner
Speaker 3: who said there was a warning label on it, but
Speaker 3: that was in really small print. So I guess now,
Speaker 3: since it's been a years since this happened, the family's
Speaker 3: saying that she was not aware of the dangers of it,
Speaker 3: and they're trying to call for really large, obnoxious warning
Speaker 3: labels to be on these canisters so people are fully
Speaker 3: aware of what this was any other country, right, this
Speaker 3: was in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I'm pretty sure in America there's
Speaker 1: pretty big tags if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking about it. And I feel like there
Speaker 3: are pretty big stickers on the tanks themselves, but how
Speaker 3: many people Because it has the MSCs triangle on it
Speaker 3: that says all the hazards with everything, I feel like
Speaker 3: it's pretty big, well here, but not there, so I
Speaker 3: guess over there they're trying to get it changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, this is just such a such
Speaker 1: a stupid death, you know what I mean, Like it's sad,
Speaker 1: she was a mom. Just it's just it didn't need
Speaker 1: to happen. But you could see, I mean, like listen,
Speaker 1: like it just happened with us, but with me and
Speaker 1: my neighbor, and we're both educated in medical stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's just like you don't don't really think about it.
Speaker 1: But then it's like essentially, okay, well you shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing whippets and things like. It's kind of on the
Speaker 1: same lines of like the huffing.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, I just think unfortunately, things like this
Speaker 3: need to happen so people are aware of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean not that they should happen to make people aware,
Speaker 3: but people don't realize until something really bad happen now
Speaker 3: and then they stop doing it. This next case about
Speaker 3: this forty eight year old guy. He went to the
Speaker 3: emergency room with abdominal pain, which he said started about
Speaker 3: a couple hours after he was mowing his lawn. So
Speaker 3: at first he didn't know if he like got hit
Speaker 3: by something or was stung by a bee or something
Speaker 3: like that. Couldn't really explain what the pain was. So
Speaker 3: he starts getting tests at the hospital and what did
Speaker 3: they end up seeing?
Speaker 1: So they did when he was looking at his abdomen
Speaker 1: because he was having his pain and his abdomen and
Speaker 1: he was looking and he didn't see anything. So he
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know what's happening right now.
Speaker 1: He goes to the hospital, they do an examine. They
Speaker 1: don't see anything on his abdomen, but he's kind of
Speaker 1: freaking out so bad that he's in pain that they say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do a set scan and let's also do an ultrasound.
Speaker 1: And when they went to do the ultrasound, he was
Speaker 1: in so much pain. They were having a hard time
Speaker 1: just pushing the doppler on his belly because his belly
Speaker 1: hurt so bad. So they did the CT scan and
Speaker 1: they saw that he had this seven centimeter piece of
Speaker 1: metal that was pierced into his abdomen. And here they
Speaker 1: think that it flew. It was like again a shrapnel
Speaker 1: injury from the lawnmower that went right through his skin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was a rusty nail. Do you think
Speaker 3: it was just like laying in the grass and then yeah,
Speaker 3: it just shy up.
Speaker 1: I have a case in the gross room of one
Speaker 1: of our members actually sent it to us. Her husband
Speaker 1: was mowing the grass and ran over one of those
Speaker 1: little flagpoles, you know, the little the one that has
Speaker 1: my little Philly's flag on it. Yeah, like something like
Speaker 1: that small and when he ran it over, the thing broke,
Speaker 1: the blade broke the metal off and it flew into
Speaker 1: his leg and went into the bone of his leg.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like because it's just it's it's a shrapnel injury,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when they looked at
Speaker 1: the guy's abdomen again, they saw that he had this
Speaker 1: area of a little tiny area of inflammation right corresponding
Speaker 1: to where that went through that they couldn't even see.
Speaker 1: They actually put a picture of his abdomen basically saying,
Speaker 1: do you see anything here because if we examine, if
Speaker 1: you examined him right now, would you think that he
Speaker 1: got pierced with something. No, it's just it's because it
Speaker 1: was so thin and it goes it's hot, and it
Speaker 1: goes through so fast that it just pierced right through
Speaker 1: like a little dot.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: All right, So we've talked about this case on here
Speaker 3: before and many times in the grocer room, but we
Speaker 3: have updates about the Ellen Greenberg case. But as a
Speaker 3: quick reminder. She was the teacher in Philadelphia. She was
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old when she was found stabbed twenty
Speaker 3: times in her apartment during a snowstorm. Initially, because of
Speaker 3: the amount of stab wounds, the Philly and Me had
Speaker 3: determined that she died as a homicide, but then after
Speaker 3: some police pushback, he changed it to a suicide. And
Speaker 3: her family has been fighting this since twenty eleven. So
Speaker 3: what is the current update on the situation.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a really good update, actually, and it shows
Speaker 1: that you should really fight for things if you believe
Speaker 1: them not to be true. Because her parents have been
Speaker 1: fighting all this time, and now they've been saying, can
Speaker 1: you just change the death certificate to not say suicide
Speaker 1: and to say even if for it to say undetermined
Speaker 1: because they just didn't believe that her daughter killed herself off,
Speaker 1: just with all of the evidence present, and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. And then finally the medical examiner that did
Speaker 1: the case said that this is exactly what he said.
Speaker 1: It is my professional opinion. Ellen's manner of death should
Speaker 1: be designated as something other than suicide, so that only
Speaker 1: leaves so there's only five manners of death, so it
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't natural. It definitely wasn't an accident. So all
Speaker 1: you have left is suicide, homicide or undetermined. Undetermined would
Speaker 1: be worst case scenario because then they're going to say,
Speaker 1: we don't know if she killed herself or we don't
Speaker 1: know if someone killed her, and that would be the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario in terrible because if someone killed her,
Speaker 1: they should be prosecuted for it.
Speaker 3: You know, do you think the timing is suspicious considering
Speaker 3: a judge just decided that the emmy and the lead
Speaker 3: detective would have to testify at trial, and now that
Speaker 3: the city has decided to settle and reopen the investigation.
Speaker 1: I I just read an article, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm reading it incorrectly, but it seems like the
Speaker 1: family sued the city and then right before this lawsuit
Speaker 1: went forward, doctor Osborne, who's the medical examiner that did
Speaker 1: the autopsy, was like, you know what, I'll change it.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, well, that's weird. Right before you were
Speaker 1: supposed to get sued, you'll change it. And then that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, I do. I think that that's
Speaker 1: why they decided to do it. But in all honesty,
Speaker 1: like he should have changed it years ago. So he's
Speaker 1: saying now that there's all this new evidence to life,
Speaker 1: which which i've been there's been. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree with it either, though, because he's
Speaker 1: saying that he initially, especially from the medical examiner's point
Speaker 1: of view, if he did the autopsy and just looking
Speaker 1: at the body not knowing anything, because that's what originally happened,
Speaker 1: he just was like this, someone killed this girl. Then
Speaker 1: that's the end of the story. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: someone didn't break in or whatever like that to me
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I know, circumstantial evidence matters, but like for
Speaker 1: you doing the death certificate, you should think that that's
Speaker 1: how that person died. Then that's how that person died.
Speaker 1: And then you let someone come in and put some
Speaker 1: ideas in your head and then you changed it your
Speaker 1: story to fit that scenario, and it's just two completely
Speaker 1: different things, you know. So I'm not I don't. I
Speaker 1: think this whole case is a giant shit show to
Speaker 1: begin with. It just has always been a shit show.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's getting re examined. Finally, the problem
Speaker 1: is is that her body's gone. They do still have evidence,
Speaker 1: they have pieces parts everything in jars at the medical
Speaker 1: Examinar's office, microscopic slides, reports, photographs that they could look at.
Speaker 1: But now there's always going to be some kind of
Speaker 1: a question when there really shouldn't have ever been a question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's I'm, you know, putting on
Speaker 3: my tinfoil hat because I think if he went on
Speaker 3: the stand, or maybe the detective did that, maybe the
Speaker 3: city feared larger issues being exposed at hand.
Speaker 1: And I think, of course, and there they're already under
Speaker 1: scrutiny anyway because of these these issues over there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So they should, they should pay
Speaker 1: the family off, but they also should just reopen it.
Speaker 1: And I mean this, there's there's been proof now that
Speaker 1: they're saying that she has injuries that occurred when she
Speaker 1: was either dead or not able to do them because
Speaker 1: it's severed a part of her spinal cord like end
Speaker 1: of story.
Speaker 3: Well, I also think and I saw a lot of
Speaker 3: similarities in this when we were covering Karen Reid case yesterday.
Speaker 3: Was they start the investigation thinking it's one way, and
Speaker 3: then they only look at it that way instead of
Speaker 3: going into it totally neutral, and then figuring out what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's yeah, it's preconceived ideas and then you
Speaker 1: could you could make it. It's just when you do
Speaker 1: an autopsy, if you're really sticking to the science of
Speaker 1: it and stuff, you shouldn't be able, Like you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to take one autopsy and be like, how
Speaker 1: could I spin this to make it look like a suicide?
Speaker 1: Or how could I spin this to make it look
Speaker 1: like a homicide? You know it's and that's what they
Speaker 1: kind of tried to do. And and the guy listen, like,
Speaker 1: if I was this guy and did what year was
Speaker 1: the autopsy?
Speaker 3: Eleven, twenty eleven?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I wouldn't want to even be talking about
Speaker 1: this anymore. And it probably weighs heavily on him all
Speaker 1: the time because you see these parents distraught, and like.
Speaker 3: How do you even remember something that you worked on
Speaker 3: when they've worked on hundreds of cases fourteen years later.
Speaker 1: Oh, he remembers this one. I'll tell you that he
Speaker 1: and shit for you. Yeah, I'll tell you that. They
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear her name over there because
Speaker 1: it's it's but they're they're also like standing to their
Speaker 1: ground and stuff, and listen, like I see their perspective
Speaker 1: of it. From to a certain extent, she had a
Speaker 1: history of being on psychological medications and she was having
Speaker 1: some depression and anxiety issues and things like that. I
Speaker 1: get I get that, but like the wounds, just it
Speaker 1: just was very, very unusual. And another unusual thing is
Speaker 1: recently with I think that's when we talked about her
Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago, saying that her ex fiance
Speaker 1: has come out for the first time since this has happened.
Speaker 1: He's since remarried and has children. Well, guess what, he's
Speaker 1: the suspect if they decide to change it to homicide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he has never been suspected of foul play,
Speaker 3: which I think is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: It's fit. I I just I just think he's saying.
Speaker 1: I just think that the way and listen, this is
Speaker 1: always the thing you say, like, you don't know how
Speaker 1: you're going to react when someone when this situation we're
Speaker 1: just talking about it with the plane, what happens if
Speaker 1: there's a bomb in front of you, whatever, you don't
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna react. But just if you listen
Speaker 1: to the nine one one call, it just sounds like
Speaker 1: staged almost He's like, there's he didn't see that she
Speaker 1: had a fucking knife sticking out of her chest. They
Speaker 1: were like, do CPR on her? Okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't that even be your first thought? Like, just
Speaker 1: you don't know how. I don't really know how to
Speaker 1: do it. I learned it when I was nineteen years
Speaker 1: old in college. I'm just saying like, I would try
Speaker 1: I would try anything to save my loved one that
Speaker 1: I thought was in distress, no matter what. And the
Speaker 1: ladies on the phone walking them through it, like it's okay,
Speaker 1: if you touch her, you could touch her, just do
Speaker 1: it on her chest. Oh there's a knife sticking out
Speaker 1: of her chest. Oh my god, she must have killed herself.
Speaker 1: Book says that, well, yeah, it's hood. Thanks, Like if
Speaker 1: you if you find your loved one dead, why would
Speaker 1: with a knife in their chest? Why would you ever
Speaker 1: think that it's just And listen, people do kill themselves
Speaker 1: with a knife, a knife, five cases in the grocer
Speaker 1: room of it. But it's super super rare, especially in
Speaker 1: a woman. It's just so so rare.
Speaker 3: I I just think, like Karen, read the detail. When
Speaker 3: you really get into the details of this case, you
Speaker 3: could really argue it either way. Oh yeah, And because
Speaker 3: of their sloppy that's why you can't say definitively well
Speaker 3: exactly exactly. That's the problem because they treated this as
Speaker 3: a suicide from the time the police and the Medical
Speaker 3: Examiner's office showed up that they didn't treat it as
Speaker 3: a crime scene at all. And it's the same with
Speaker 3: the Karen Reid case. They didn't treat it as a
Speaker 3: crime scene. And that's when people lose all your trust.
Speaker 3: They just don't, you know. And then there was that
Speaker 3: shady shit with his uncle going the next day and
Speaker 3: taken her computer and stuff because it wasn't labeled a
Speaker 3: crime scene, so he was allowed back in to get
Speaker 3: the belongings. And you're just like, why did his uncle
Speaker 3: take her computers?
Speaker 1: Why? It's weird to me. I'm sorry, it's just fucking weird.
Speaker 1: And he was like a lawyer, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's something shady there.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's unusual. I was watching this twenty
Speaker 3: twenty about Karen Reid last night and Matt Murphy was
Speaker 3: actually in it, and he said, because a lot of
Speaker 3: people were really critical of her for immediately getting a lawyer,
Speaker 3: but he said in that special that that's pretty common
Speaker 3: if you were associated with a death like this, even
Speaker 3: if you were one hundred percent innocent, you should just
Speaker 3: get legal counsel because it's smart. But the fact that
Speaker 3: he got a lawyer and they're like taking the belongings
Speaker 3: and try to get rid of stuff that is weird,
Speaker 3: but trying to get rid of what stuff or taking
Speaker 3: the computer we know she had for that suspicious Yeah,
Speaker 3: for Ellen Greenberg. Sorry, so we know she had suspicious searches.
Speaker 3: We know she was on and off of some psychiatric medications.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to try to play
Speaker 3: that as he was trying to protect her because it's
Speaker 3: something not a lot of people knew, or what the
Speaker 3: hell was going on. I don't want to say either way.
Speaker 1: What happened is your text messages between them that he
Speaker 1: just seemed very douchey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that doesn't make somebody a killer.
Speaker 1: I understand that, But that might be why she was
Speaker 1: on anxiety met I'm just you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: you can't say that either, you just I can't because
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship with someone that sucked before
Speaker 1: and it gave me anxiety. So I could speak from
Speaker 1: personal experience sometimes like you could just you could just
Speaker 1: think about things like that, Like it's not wrong to
Speaker 1: just assume that, right. I'm not saying it as fact.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, hey, I was I was once
Speaker 1: in a in not in a great relationship and had
Speaker 1: anxiety and wanted to be on meds to make it
Speaker 1: go away.
Speaker 3: Like, if he really didn't have anything to do with this,
Speaker 3: I feel bad because it's been going on for a while.
Speaker 3: If he did have something to do with it, I
Speaker 3: guess we're gonna see how that plays out because the investigation.
Speaker 1: How outrageous would it be if he had something to
Speaker 1: do with it and he thought he was like in
Speaker 1: the clear and then that's when he decided to get
Speaker 1: married and I have kids and stuff, and now he
Speaker 1: might be going on trial for that because who else
Speaker 1: would go on.
Speaker 3: Trial for it? Well, generally speaking, I just want to say,
Speaker 3: if you have committed a crime, it's really ignorant to
Speaker 3: think that you're beyond it. With technology, DNA everything like
Speaker 3: that going on today, I don't think there's ever a
Speaker 3: point where you should be like, cool, I'm in the clear.
Speaker 3: Because we see these things.
Speaker 1: It's a tough taste case right now too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for the Emmy's office to have to
Speaker 1: re examine this. It's because if whatever they say, if
Speaker 1: they say, okay, we determine that this is a homicide,
Speaker 1: then they're going to have to you then have to
Speaker 1: find somebody that did it. And it's it's like what
Speaker 1: if they are wrong? You know, that's the thing, and
Speaker 1: and you do, like I said, people do kill themselves
Speaker 1: with knives sometimes. But the whole thing is is the
Speaker 1: injuries that were made by the knife are are what's
Speaker 1: in question. And when they say that they're looking at
Speaker 1: these specific injuries and saying, you know, because one doctor
Speaker 1: said that that they looked at it and it did
Speaker 1: not incapacitate her. But then that particular doctor that looked
Speaker 1: at it said that she never looked at it. She
Speaker 1: said she has no receipts of doing a consultation for
Speaker 1: that case. But I do believe that he possibly brought
Speaker 1: it over to her to look at and just was like, hey,
Speaker 1: look at this. You know what I mean, because we
Speaker 1: do that all the time in pathologies, like totally like
Speaker 1: off the books, just like what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: But like if that was the determining thing. And doctor Rourke,
Speaker 1: who's who's an excellent, like world renowned neuropathologist, said that
Speaker 1: it would have been good if that was in writing,
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of cover all the bases here,
Speaker 1: and if she determined that, oh, she still could have
Speaker 1: been moving her arms even if she made this incision,
Speaker 1: then like end the story.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm curious how this is gonna play out.
Speaker 3: I mean when you were just like thinking you're in
Speaker 3: the clear, I was thinking, you know, they didn't catch
Speaker 3: Joseph DiAngelo, the Golden State killer for fifty years, but
Speaker 3: they did the last known committed c I was in
Speaker 3: the seventies and they rested him I believe, in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: So everybody should be on their dose. I just think it.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I just think that right now, if
Speaker 1: there's no more evidence that could come out, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like obviously you would think it's the boyfriend
Speaker 1: because he was there and he acted weird and this
Speaker 1: and like the whole scene of it was weird and unusual.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like there's not really any
Speaker 1: evidence besides circumstantial which is minimal. That's that that would
Speaker 1: implicate him at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I think they're gonna have a really
Speaker 3: difficult time because it all boils down to the original investigation,
Speaker 3: which was fourteen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna I would say that they'll probably just change
Speaker 1: it to undetermined. Yeah, so that would be that would
Speaker 1: be safe unless, like you know, unless a neuropathologist looks
Speaker 1: at it with certainty and says no, this, you know,
Speaker 1: I just think at this point it's too messy. But
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy for her family that they're getting
Speaker 1: some answers because if it was handled correctly, like you
Speaker 1: were saying, if the evidence was handenedled correctly in the beginning,
Speaker 1: then maybe they would have been at peace with it.
Speaker 1: And they've made their life a living fucking hell.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I can't even imagine going through something like
Speaker 3: this and then you have to fight, you know, a
Speaker 3: government and to tea about something like this, and that
Speaker 3: just makes it all the heart Yeah, all the more difficult.
Speaker 3: So at least hopefully this is some steps to getting
Speaker 3: them some type of closure that they deserve.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty three, this woman thought it was
Speaker 3: a good idea to use a hair dryer to warm
Speaker 3: up her infant son, and of course she was high
Speaker 3: and fell asleep while the hair dryer was still on
Speaker 3: and ended up burning.
Speaker 1: The child to dead. This lady's thirty two has a baby.
Speaker 1: The kid had such severe burns on its body. I
Speaker 1: don't even know, like what the actual cause of death was,
Speaker 1: was a hyperthermia, I'm not sure. They just said that
Speaker 1: the baby's body was burned, but just from a skin
Speaker 1: burn in a couple hours, I don't think that that
Speaker 1: would be something that would kill you. It's there has
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more to the mechanism that
Speaker 1: caused the kid to actually die there. But and I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was a couple hours or how
Speaker 1: long she went to the to sleep, but she woke
Speaker 1: up and he was unresponsive, and she tried to give
Speaker 1: him CPR and everything, and he ended up dying. And
Speaker 1: they found they said that what she was trying to
Speaker 1: like hide an apparatus to smoke marijuana. See like they
Speaker 1: were just saying that she smoked weed, and you say
Speaker 1: she's high. It's like, well, she wasn't high on like heroin.
Speaker 1: You know, she was on weed, which is legal, right
Speaker 1: every like everybody smokes weed. Now, I smell it all
Speaker 1: day long outside. It's like a new flower outside.
Speaker 3: Parts of this story that are really I'm really confused about,
Speaker 3: or they're saying. She was arrested the following day on
Speaker 3: one count of cruelty to children in the second degree,
Speaker 3: but then she was released on if your kid died
Speaker 3: from something you did, why are you getting released on bond?
Speaker 3: And then of course, while she's out on bond, a
Speaker 3: year later, she gets a DUI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean this, this is the thing though
Speaker 1: she she's out on bond because in like it was negligence,
Speaker 1: but it was an accident. I don't think that they
Speaker 1: determined that she was under the influence.
Speaker 3: So can't you see this the same as like as
Speaker 3: a dui, Like you willingly did something while you were
Speaker 3: on Yeah, but if you if you get in an
Speaker 3: accident and kill somebody with a DUI, you don't always
Speaker 3: go to jail either.
Speaker 1: It just depends. It just depends. But I would I
Speaker 1: don't know, like if they put things in different categories
Speaker 1: because easily like let's say, I mean she had weed, right,
Speaker 1: but let's say she took benadryl and fell asleep or
Speaker 1: something too like the whole thing she was doing was
Speaker 1: just fucking stupid. It's it's just I don't even understand,
Speaker 1: Like did she not have heat, why was she whatever?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was just stupid to begin with,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was just negligence and stupidity. I
Speaker 1: don't I just don't see that she could be in
Speaker 1: jail for a long time for that when they determined
Speaker 1: that she wasn't like trying to hurt the kid.
Speaker 3: Really well, now a grand jury's hit her with second
Speaker 3: degree murder charge, so somebody thinks it's more serious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the circumstances are behind that.
Speaker 3: But well, this next one's really interesting, involving a DUI.
Speaker 3: So in Sweden, this guy was flying a drone over
Speaker 3: a temporary no fly zone that was over a car show.
Speaker 3: So police tracked a drone back to this guy and
Speaker 3: they tested his blood alcohol level, which was point zero
Speaker 3: six ' nine. And really interestingly, in Sweden their legal
Speaker 3: limit is point zero two, whereas here it's point zero eight.
Speaker 3: So because he was technically over the Sweden's legal limit,
Speaker 3: he was charged with a drone d UI. This is
Speaker 3: something I never even thought of. But it Oh but
Speaker 3: actually because he was flying in restricted airspace, and now
Speaker 3: with all this shit that just happened over the past
Speaker 3: couple days with the airplanes, you're kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe this is just something I never even thought of.
Speaker 3: You know how we talked about this on this show
Speaker 3: that New Jersey's having, Like I don't know if we
Speaker 3: still are because I haven't seen it, but we were
Speaker 3: having this crazy drone problem with these big drones flying
Speaker 3: over and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Some of those drones are freaking big. They're like the
Speaker 1: size of a car, I know. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if a regular person, like, can I just go buy
Speaker 1: a drone that's that big if I have enough money
Speaker 1: to buy it. I don't know. There has to be
Speaker 1: some kind of regulations or whatever. But like, certainly I
Speaker 1: guess you shouldn't be driving them if you're drunk. Well,
Speaker 1: not campos to go in a certain height and in
Speaker 1: certain areas well.
Speaker 3: They're saying it's an aircraft even though it's flown by itself,
Speaker 3: it is controlled by someone down on the ground and
Speaker 3: could fall from a high height and injure somebody let
Speaker 3: alone to hit a helicopter an airplane caused significant damage
Speaker 3: or a deadly crash, depending on the size of the own,
Speaker 3: so he used charge a dui and find three thousand
Speaker 3: dollars for it. I'm curious either to get to find
Speaker 3: three thousand dollars for DOUI with a regular car in
Speaker 3: this country. No, but I'm fascinated that their legal limit
Speaker 3: is so low compared to here. It should be, yeah,
Speaker 3: it should be, but I'm just like it was boy,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: You know, what's like an excellent example because I don't
Speaker 1: drink that much, right, so when I do, if I
Speaker 1: just were to drink to get my blood to be
Speaker 1: right at the legal limit, I would be piss ass dronk.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I get drunk so easily off of
Speaker 1: one drink. I would never I could never drink drive
Speaker 1: with one drink, even if it was a glass of wine.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. So it varies from person to person, especially
Speaker 1: depending on like how dependent you are on alcohol, your tolerance,
Speaker 1: but that it's very it's very high limit. Considering that
Speaker 1: there's some people that go to the bar one time
Speaker 1: and like, hey, let me just have you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I know other people that could have five
Speaker 1: or six drinks and be completely fine to drive.
Speaker 3: But well, it varies person to person. That's why. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think they base it off of how many
Speaker 3: drinks you said you had, but what's going on in
Speaker 3: your body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't matter because the blood Like what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is the blood work and the
Speaker 1: blood alcohol level isn't necessarily telling. It's not equivalent to
Speaker 1: your impairment, you know what I mean. Like, I like
Speaker 1: my I'm saying, if I have one drink, I feel
Speaker 1: like I can't drive, but my limit would still be
Speaker 1: considered legal, even though I personally think my impairment's off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: All right? This next one is so completely disturbing. So
Speaker 3: in Florida, this sixty three year old guy asked his
Speaker 3: thirty year old son to help him get back into
Speaker 3: his email account. I guess he got locked out typical
Speaker 3: boomer question by the typical boomer question. But while the
Speaker 3: son was trying to get his dad back into the
Speaker 3: email account, he came across child porn that was stored
Speaker 3: in the dad's phone and ended up turning him into
Speaker 3: the police. That I love this story, so it's cool
Speaker 3: that he did that.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine going through your parents' email and finding
Speaker 1: fucking child porn?
Speaker 3: Listen, what was it? Nine hundred and Yeah, we're not
Speaker 3: talking about one picture. We're talking about nine hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty two files.
Speaker 1: And the worst part is is that so this guy,
Speaker 1: the son, is thirty years old, the dad's sixty three.
Speaker 1: He has other children and has grandkids that would fucking
Speaker 1: frighten me.
Speaker 3: And they said in the pictures the kids were ranging
Speaker 3: from ages five to eight years old. That is absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the son because, like you, like,
Speaker 1: nobody ever even wants to see those pictures. No, So
Speaker 1: it's like, now your dad is one hundred percent going
Speaker 1: to jail for this, which we could talk about him
Speaker 1: getting let out on bond two, but you have to
Speaker 1: deal with that this is now public information. You had
Speaker 1: to see these pictures against your will when you just
Speaker 1: thought you were helping an innocent boomer like get back
Speaker 1: into their email. But the dad was released after posting
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars bond. I don't understand why bond
Speaker 1: is even allowed for somebody in this situation. Clearly is
Speaker 1: he has a harm to children in society If he's
Speaker 1: saving pictures like this.
Speaker 3: He admitted he was doing it. It's not like he
Speaker 3: was even trying to act like his phone got hacked.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: It just is so gross, it really is. It's really
Speaker 1: really discussed. I just I can't stand that a guy.
Speaker 1: I can't stand that people can get this stuff. That's
Speaker 1: what bothers me the most. It's not like he took
Speaker 1: them of a child he had access to, like he
Speaker 1: was able to get them off the internet somehow, and
Speaker 1: that bothers me so Like, I just with the amount
Speaker 1: of technology that exists, I just don't understand how this
Speaker 1: is possibly going on, that all of these people are trading.
Speaker 1: We actually had another story we didn't talk about this
Speaker 1: week that we can mention really quick that there was
Speaker 1: this law enforcement husband and wife from New Jersey that
Speaker 1: was distributing child porn of with their own children, like
Speaker 1: and people. They were doing it on some site called kick,
Speaker 1: a social media site called kick. I never even heard
Speaker 1: of it, But there's all these like new, smaller social
Speaker 1: media sites that might not.
Speaker 3: Have wasn't that the site the Yes I shooter was, like.
Speaker 1: I believe so I was like I felt like I
Speaker 1: heard this before, but like I'm saying, like they're a
Speaker 1: smaller company, so they might not have the same amount
Speaker 1: of technology that like Facebook has or something, you know,
Speaker 1: and they need to like, like, it's just so freaking
Speaker 1: disturbing that that there's not some technology that could pick
Speaker 1: up that there's that there's a child. It's just so
Speaker 1: fucking gross to me.
Speaker 3: So can't He's facing over twenty felony charges and each
Speaker 3: of those charges carries a maximum of fifteen years. So
Speaker 3: hopefully this guy just goes to jail for the rest
Speaker 3: of his life and rots in there. Do you think
Speaker 3: that the thing?
Speaker 1: Do you think honestly, like, this guy's third and he's
Speaker 1: known his dad his whole life, Like, do you think
Speaker 1: that there's other stuff too? And this was this It
Speaker 1: can't be like a total shocker that this happened.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe it's one of those like you ever eat
Speaker 3: a meeta older guy that's just like a little like
Speaker 3: pervy or creepy, Like you can't assume they're doing the
Speaker 3: absolute worst thing ever like this, But I'm sure there
Speaker 3: were certain personality traits that were probably like, you know,
Speaker 3: off putting. And now they're a piece together, and I
Speaker 3: wonder if they're they're going to have to interview the
Speaker 3: grandchildren and the kids and see if they ever were molested. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because how could you trust that he wasn't doing that.
Speaker 3: I know, it's it's really disgusting.
Speaker 1: I know, it really is. Okay, medical news, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So the FDA has announced a new non opioid
Speaker 3: painkiller called jur Navis.
Speaker 1: Suzetra that's how it is pronounced. I believe Suzetra gene
Speaker 1: that's the generic form it. So I guess it's been
Speaker 1: twenty five years since they've made a pain medication, probably
Speaker 1: because they're scared shitless because of the whole opioid thing.
Speaker 1: The last one they made was Celebrex, which is got
Speaker 1: its problems as well, used for arthritis and things like that.
Speaker 1: But the most shocking part of this article is that
Speaker 1: they're saying that the most commonly prescribed drugs in hospitals
Speaker 1: is for pain management eighty million prescriptions a year, eighty
Speaker 1: million and half of those are.
Speaker 3: For opioids, and just in the United States, just.
Speaker 1: In the United States side. It's fucking outrageous. It's so bad.
Speaker 1: They're way over prescribed. But I guess this. So this
Speaker 1: new drug, the opioids work by changing the way that
Speaker 1: your brain perceives pain, whereas the new drug is blocking
Speaker 1: the pathway, So you are experiencing the pain, but your
Speaker 1: brain doesn't know it that it's experiencing it. Now, I
Speaker 1: think that that in theory on paper, that sounds great,
Speaker 1: but I just don't trust anything now because you're just like,
Speaker 1: but what's the butt, Well, what's the terrible thing that's
Speaker 1: going to come out of this? Like what could we
Speaker 1: predict now that's going to be a problem in thirty
Speaker 1: years from now.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that oxy cotton was also advertised as
Speaker 3: a non addictive pain management and let's how'd that turn out?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was like not really too long ago,
Speaker 1: like in modern medicine. It's it's just like they definitely
Speaker 1: knew it was a problem.
Speaker 3: So we, you know, have this giant problem in the
Speaker 3: world now because of that, I want to have faith
Speaker 3: in this and think it's this awesome thing. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I'll fully trust it for a long time
Speaker 3: because of how oxycotton went down.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe by the time you're you're a handicapped senior citizen,
Speaker 1: you could and you're you start getting really bad pain
Speaker 1: in your joints. It'll be you'll be ready to try
Speaker 1: it in thirty years or something.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. I you know, I've talked about this
Speaker 3: many times, how that documentary The Crime of the Century
Speaker 3: on HBO about your life and ruined my life. It
Speaker 3: really made me question, you know, entities like this and
Speaker 3: them getting paid off, and that horrible family, the Sacklers.
Speaker 3: They're still trying to fight to get immunity in court,
Speaker 3: and I'm happy that the government is like, fuck you,
Speaker 3: We're not letting you get away with any of this
Speaker 3: because they don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: So I will say it, but like I don't need
Speaker 1: to see it. I trust me. I know what's happening
Speaker 1: behind the scenes with the pharmaceuticals and stuff.
Speaker 3: There was one story in there. I literally started crying,
Speaker 3: which we know is not hard for me to do,
Speaker 3: but this one person was talking about their significant other
Speaker 3: and how they got in some type of accident and
Speaker 3: they were prescribed oxy cotton and at one point that
Speaker 3: I believe it was a wife that was on the
Speaker 3: drugs and the husband went in their living room and
Speaker 3: she had been folding laundry when he left the room,
Speaker 3: and when he came back in the room, she was
Speaker 3: literally passed stout standing up in the hamper, Like, think
Speaker 3: about how horrible that is. And that's just one example
Speaker 3: of just like how horrible these drugs are and how
Speaker 3: they could take these people that are not their traditional
Speaker 3: you know, addicdes exactly and turn them into these people.
Speaker 3: And it's disgusting and really sad. So I'll keep saying this.
Speaker 3: I want to have faith in this and hopefully it
Speaker 3: will change things around. But also it's going to be expensive.
Speaker 3: They were saying it's going to be around fifteen dollars
Speaker 3: a pill, which is a lot of money, and it's
Speaker 3: going to take some time for that to go down,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have to wait for studies over all
Speaker 3: these years and see the long term effects of it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of this, this is like maybe a completely different
Speaker 1: side note, but I saw this Instagram account. It was like,
Speaker 1: there's a couple that document Kensington and Philadelphia. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly which particular one this was, but just speaking
Speaker 1: of the opioid epidemic and everything, if you guys haven't
Speaker 1: seen videos from Kensington Philadelphia, it's just shocking that this
Speaker 1: exists anywhere in the world, that people are living like this.
Speaker 1: And this one photo, this one video had this woman
Speaker 1: who was just high laying there. She was alive, you
Speaker 1: could see her moving. She looked dead though, and she
Speaker 1: had like a million flies on her crotch, right, And
Speaker 1: then it panned over to a couple next to them,
Speaker 1: and there was a guy sitting on a chair and
Speaker 1: there was a woman that was like straddling him and
Speaker 1: they were both completely just high and like awake but
Speaker 1: not awake, you know. And just on this on a
Speaker 1: sidewalk in Kensington. It's just yah, it's just so outraged,
Speaker 1: like a beach chair, drugs all over the ground. It's
Speaker 1: it's just it's just so fucking sad. And it all
Speaker 1: originates from this shit, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean when you drive through that area of the city,
Speaker 3: it's like zombie land. It just feels actually so.
Speaker 1: It's unreal, and I feel so terrible because I'm like,
Speaker 1: the these are people's children, you know, like nobody wants
Speaker 1: to be there. You're there because the circumstance. But it's
Speaker 1: just that life is not even a life, you know.
Speaker 1: It's just so terrible to be trapped in a body
Speaker 1: like that. It's so terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. So, after Christmas in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: this family from Toronto went on what they claimed was
Speaker 3: their dream vacation and the Dominican Republic. And the first
Speaker 3: night they were there, they ate at the buffet at
Speaker 3: the resort. By the following morning, they were all pretty sick.
Speaker 3: They were begging the hotel for help and they were
Speaker 3: just kind of blowing them off, being like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: go to the medical center on site, and I guess
Speaker 3: at some point they made it clear that they weren't
Speaker 3: able to get there on their own. So eventually they
Speaker 3: get wheelchaired over to the facility and the mother and
Speaker 3: the young son in this case are having difficulty breathing,
Speaker 3: so they transport them to a local hospital via ambulance
Speaker 3: and they ended up dying there shortly after.
Speaker 1: Is this like so scary?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess what happened, it seems is that so they
Speaker 1: didn't have symptoms for nine hours after they.
Speaker 3: Ate, and then it came on.
Speaker 1: It came on violently, and it sounds like they were
Speaker 1: saying that they couldn't leave the hotel room because they
Speaker 1: were probably throwing up and shitting so bad that I mean, like,
Speaker 1: think about this, You're in your hotel room and you
Speaker 1: got to walk down to the lobby when you're vomiting
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, Like it's really hard to think
Speaker 1: about even doing because and plus when you're like that,
Speaker 1: you're very weak and you feel well and stuff. But
Speaker 1: the problem is is that if you're losing fluids that fast,
Speaker 1: you could have a major electrolyte imbalance that it could
Speaker 1: kill you. Really if you're not getting fluids put into
Speaker 1: you as fast as you're losing them like that. You know,
Speaker 1: that's why every time you have diarrhea and stuff, they're like,
Speaker 1: drink plenty of fluids and stuff. But this is a
Speaker 1: situation where they needed an IV long before they ended
Speaker 1: up getting treatment. And I think that, I mean, they
Speaker 1: didn't really say what caused it, but I think it
Speaker 1: just the way that it sounds that it was some
Speaker 1: kind of a bacteria that put off toxins that were
Speaker 1: just just extra virulent and nasty and well, you.
Speaker 3: Know, it was complications from food poisoning, but not specifically
Speaker 3: what type of Yeah, they didn't say, I mean, that's
Speaker 3: what they did the autopsy. So imagine being on vacation
Speaker 3: with your family and then all of this going down
Speaker 3: your family having to get autopsied and freaking Dominican Republic.
Speaker 3: Like the whole thing sounds like such a nightmare. Well,
Speaker 3: so the husband and one of the other children survive,
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And now it's like the dad has
Speaker 3: to tell the other little kid, your mom and your
Speaker 3: brother did, and they're.
Speaker 1: Always making at a Windham hotel. It wasn't some shadiest thing.
Speaker 1: It was like a like a that's what I you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I would think that that
Speaker 1: was a more prominent hotel that you could trust, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, you want to think you could trust it. But
Speaker 3: now they filed ten million dollar civil lawsuit claiming the
Speaker 3: resort lacked proper hygiene and the emergency procedures and did
Speaker 3: not respond in a timely matter when the family reported
Speaker 3: the OWNUS. So I'm curious how that's gonna work out.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the buffet. If they were following protocols,
Speaker 3: If other people were getting sick to what.
Speaker 1: Food, someone else had to get sick too, There's no way, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Especially if the mom and
Speaker 1: the dad and all of the people in the one
Speaker 1: family were sick, other people got sick as well. But
Speaker 1: I think that ultimately it just was because they were
Speaker 1: losing too much fluid. Yeah, I mean, so this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I looked this up and apparently there's a website called
Speaker 1: iwspoisoned dot com where you've heard of this before, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where you could anonymously put places that you've traveled. It's
Speaker 1: actually a good idea. You couldn't. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt because people are
Speaker 1: gonna it's like a review website. But on that website
Speaker 1: it says places that people have traveled and where they've
Speaker 1: gotten sick, and Dominican Republic is a big one. And
Speaker 1: then in twenty twenty three, Forbes maggot zine in the
Speaker 1: UK went through all of these travel forums, like millions
Speaker 1: of them, and they were searching terms like food poisoning,
Speaker 1: food borne illness, all this stuff, and they got hit
Speaker 1: the most hits from the Dominican Republic with over thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand posts people saying that they've gotten sick on vacation there.
Speaker 1: So apparently their standards are not as good there, because
Speaker 1: why would more people be getting sick?
Speaker 3: There was there that controversy a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: where people were dying out all the telrooms because they
Speaker 3: were like putting the bed bug bombs in the room
Speaker 3: and letting people go in right aft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. It just was saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, the Dominicans known for its nightlife and its
Speaker 1: white sandy beaches and stuff. But they're saying that over
Speaker 1: ten percent of people that have traveled complain of holiday
Speaker 1: sickness from that particular location.
Speaker 3: Like it's it's it's really that's a little too much
Speaker 3: for me, it is.
Speaker 1: That's that's a high number to think about that, and
Speaker 1: when you're especially if you're traveling and you're used to
Speaker 1: your country and used to your healthcare in your country.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're coming from America, wherever you're
Speaker 1: coming from, Canada, UK, whatever, you go there and it's
Speaker 1: it's not your country, you know, and you're not going
Speaker 1: to get the same medical treatment and stuff there as
Speaker 1: you would hear. And it's scary to have an event
Speaker 1: like that when you're far from home over something that's preventable,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we don't really have any other death
Speaker 3: news today, so we're just going to jump onto questions
Speaker 3: of the day. Every Friday at the APT Mother Knows
Speaker 3: Death Instagram account. We put a story up you guys
Speaker 3: can ask whatever questions you want. We got a lot
Speaker 3: this week that we're pretty interesting. So first, when somebody
Speaker 3: does with breast implants, are they removed before cremation or burial? No,
Speaker 3: I would if I had breast in plant. I have
Speaker 3: had on a couple time, not myself.
Speaker 1: On an autopsy, I will usually take them out because
Speaker 1: they usually just pop out. Honestly, when I take the
Speaker 1: chest plate off, because I'm cutting through the pector alis
Speaker 1: muscle and it usually is just sitting there and it's
Speaker 1: kind of hanging in there, and I just take it
Speaker 1: out because it's easier. But No, under normal circumstances, they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't take them out. I don't see why they would.
Speaker 1: I just do because they're there. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think so too. What were your pregnancy cravings. I didn't
Speaker 1: really have any crazy ones. I just ate like a
Speaker 1: fat pig. I gained so much weight, so so much weight,
Speaker 1: Like they count with Lilian Progis with me, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I eat Progis a lot, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just like an habitual eater anyway.
Speaker 3: You know what you had with Lilian was big Max
Speaker 3: you were You've I've barely seen no you were eating
Speaker 3: them a.
Speaker 1: Lot like you. I eat everything a lot. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's really bad. I cape I hate being pregnant, but
Speaker 1: like I couldn't control my eating at all. It was
Speaker 1: really bad right like right now, I'm like, like if
Speaker 1: you brought me a big mac right now, I'd want
Speaker 1: to eat it. I can't even eat it because it's
Speaker 1: not even gluten freight, but like i'd eat it right now.
Speaker 1: But like I can control myself and be like I
Speaker 1: can't eat a big mac every day. No, when I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't give a fuck. I will
Speaker 1: eat everything under the sun, and I don't care if
Speaker 1: I consume eight thousand calories a day, like it just cupcakes, milkshakes, whatever.
Speaker 1: Like it's just really bad. Like it was like a binge,
Speaker 1: but not anything specific. I always like crave sweet stuff too,
Speaker 1: about whatever, All right, our last ques. We the busiest
Speaker 1: people that are like I gained twenty pounds.
Speaker 3: You're like I gained eighty p well, I towards the
Speaker 3: end of the pregnancy, they say.
Speaker 1: We're feel me within nutrition is because you're gaining too
Speaker 1: much weight, And I'm like, I eat five cupcakes a day.
Speaker 1: I know why I'm any weight. I don't need a
Speaker 1: nutrition is like they're gonna tell me I know why
Speaker 1: I'm gaining weight. It's not like I'm ignorant. I just
Speaker 1: want it, like I.
Speaker 3: All right. Our last question is what do you think
Speaker 3: so far on the blake and justin situation? Oh, I got.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: So we haven't really talked about it because this is
Speaker 3: not you know, something necessarily you know what we should
Speaker 3: We should.
Speaker 1: Talk about it though, because it is a crime to
Speaker 1: falsely accuse someone of sexual assault, and it kind of
Speaker 1: diminishes people that have really went through sexual assault.
Speaker 3: It's fucked up, actually if I mean if.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry, but we're reading the text messages, like
Speaker 1: I don't care what either side of the story is.
Speaker 1: We can determine by looking at the text message is
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 3: Right. I was talking about this over the weekend because
Speaker 3: it's like, you don't want to be that person that
Speaker 3: dismisses how somebody felt. Right if they do, well.
Speaker 1: Fuck her like she's making shit up.
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't want to say normally, I don't want
Speaker 3: to say somebody did didn't go through something like that,
Speaker 3: if that's what they're saying, what their experience was. But
Speaker 3: it's a little hard to be that way when you're
Speaker 3: reading when her lawsuit's saying one thing, and then he
Speaker 3: has everything to prove that incorrect. So I think they're
Speaker 3: both extremely annoying people.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is definitely that everybody could agree with that.
Speaker 3: I understand his need to make this website with all
Speaker 3: the evidence, but I think it's losery at the same time.
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's lost everything, He lost his manager,
Speaker 3: his agent deals, so he, in my opinion, he has
Speaker 3: nothing to lose, so he's trying to clear his name.
Speaker 3: But with that said, I think he's cringey on his
Speaker 3: own level. I think her and Ryan Reynolds have been
Speaker 3: kind of a problem for a while and people have
Speaker 3: always thought they were annoying. I think everybody was on
Speaker 3: her side because of the sexual harassment stuff, but it's
Speaker 3: really hard when you're you know, reading all the text
Speaker 3: messages and you see hers have things redacted, and then
Speaker 3: she's saying things and like putting Taylor Swift and her
Speaker 3: husband on him and her her dragons. Oh, talks like that.
Speaker 1: It's she's just so cringey.
Speaker 3: I just think they're both incredibly annoying, and this is
Speaker 3: like spiraling out of control.
Speaker 1: I think I have a more sustinct thing of what
Speaker 1: I think. I believe that she was having some kind
Speaker 1: of a flirtatious, slash inappropriate relationship with him, whether it
Speaker 1: be physical or emotional, and her husband found out about it,
Speaker 1: and she, instead of like getting in trouble with him
Speaker 1: and her marriage and everything, just pushed it off as
Speaker 1: like he was putting me in this position. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that they ever thought in a million years
Speaker 1: all this shit would come. They didn't think when they
Speaker 1: put this story forth that there was going to be
Speaker 1: a website with their text messages that people would be
Speaker 1: able to read the other side.
Speaker 3: Of the story, and like where she didn't think they
Speaker 3: were miked, but he was miked. So her whole account
Speaker 3: got washed because she's saying, oh, he's muzzling my neck
Speaker 3: and saying I smell really good. But then when you
Speaker 3: see the clip, which is their actual conversation, not her
Speaker 3: retelling it, you're just like, no, it didn't really go
Speaker 3: down like that. I think a lot of things they
Speaker 3: consider too, is it's my opinion that she did not
Speaker 3: read the book, and therefore she did not know how
Speaker 3: many sex scenes and how sexual the book was. I
Speaker 3: also think that because something happened between them, you agreat, did.
Speaker 1: You read the text?
Speaker 3: You read them?
Speaker 1: Yeh, because I would never text another guy with this,
Speaker 1: like these little hints and these little like you know,
Speaker 1: I get a little saucy, like it's like this this
Speaker 1: like I think she's crossing a line. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he was also crossing a line in some capacity as
Speaker 1: a married man and talking to him. But if you
Speaker 1: read his thing, like even she was saying all this
Speaker 1: shit to him and he was like, yeah, like my
Speaker 1: kids just left for a couple of days and my
Speaker 1: wife just left. Oh Like, I don't know, he was
Speaker 1: trying to like get around it in some of the things.
Speaker 3: It's just so there's also another component of this is
Speaker 3: there is another book in this series, but it's a
Speaker 3: prequel that he currently has the rights too. So I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is her way of trying to
Speaker 3: obtain the rights to the next movie so she could
Speaker 3: keep working on it. I don't. I actually think it's
Speaker 3: supposed to be her when she's younger, So I don't
Speaker 3: even know if she'd be good.
Speaker 1: Is it good? I don't particularly care about it.
Speaker 3: I don't particularly like this author, but people that really
Speaker 3: love this book said the movie was very good. So
Speaker 3: I can't speak on it because I don't particularly like
Speaker 3: how that author writes. But the people that do really
Speaker 3: like that book really like the movie, which I will
Speaker 3: say should be a compliment because big readers that read
Speaker 3: books of this level are usually extremely critical of the
Speaker 3: movies that come out.
Speaker 1: He's suing her for for slander.
Speaker 3: He's suing her and the New York Times. He said,
Speaker 3: I believe defamation, which we had to talk about this yesterday,
Speaker 3: Like you could sue somebody for defamation. Defamation cases are
Speaker 3: really hard to prove. You have to prove you've had
Speaker 3: monetary loss or some type of loss. You can't just
Speaker 3: be like that person said bad things about me and
Speaker 3: then you get money, Like you have to prove your
Speaker 3: life has been affected by it.
Speaker 1: In the dream and make him go away and cancel him.
Speaker 1: Is what's happening?
Speaker 3: He has lost?
Speaker 1: And yeah, like she's got more. You know, her dragons
Speaker 1: are more powerful than his.
Speaker 3: She said that, like, yeah, I think they're both kind
Speaker 3: of losers and like the text are cringey. I've heard
Speaker 3: that her private text messages with Ryan Reynolds are getting subpoenaed.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you how fast.
Speaker 2: Side tittle loss because I'm sure anybody that ever talks
Speaker 2: so their significant other has said, you know, highs and
Speaker 2: lows of every aspect of their life.
Speaker 1: So I would never want that ever. No, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: just she's really asking for it. They better just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I actually want him to be
Speaker 1: strong and be like, no, you know what, release those
Speaker 1: Let's like, I don't need the money, Let's release it
Speaker 1: and show everyone how you guys really are. Because they
Speaker 1: had no problem trying to destroy him. Why should he
Speaker 1: be cordial right now?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's kind of weird that he's
Speaker 3: putting all this stuff out and she's not responding to
Speaker 3: it at all. And I think some of her supporters
Speaker 3: are like, she's just stronger than him, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: she has supporters, really, No, this is this is truly
Speaker 3: a Karen Reid situation. Like your team Blake or your
Speaker 3: team Justin, you cannot be in the middle, and fuck
Speaker 3: you if you're not on my lip I've.
Speaker 1: Never seen a post that has anybody supporting her. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people supporting I mean, and that
Speaker 1: could be like an algorithm thing that I get fed
Speaker 1: everyone that you know that is uh, the other side.
Speaker 1: But I actually want to read both sides of every issue,
Speaker 1: right because I want to I want to be able
Speaker 1: to form my own opinion. But I did just go
Speaker 1: on that website and read the text messages for myself,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, if I was sending text messages
Speaker 1: like that and Gabe bread them, he would not be
Speaker 1: happy that I was sending those to another man that
Speaker 1: I was fucking in a movie by the way, Like
Speaker 1: they're sex scenes, Like you're pretty intense in that movie
Speaker 1: I've heard, so yeah, It's which I always think is
Speaker 1: awkward anyway as an actor, Like I know you're acting
Speaker 1: and stuff, but when you're like rubbing up against a
Speaker 1: hawk girl, like you're gonna get excite, Like I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you're playing it like It's just you can't turn that
Speaker 1: off all the time, right. That's why so many people
Speaker 1: that are in movies and stuff together end up together
Speaker 1: because they're making out and stuff and whatever. I just
Speaker 1: there's something there that he's jealous or there's something with
Speaker 1: the marriage. I'm telling you, well, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: genius when this comes out.
Speaker 3: Well, you're not the only person that thinks that everybody
Speaker 3: thinks that I'm I'm a little you know. Last week
Speaker 3: I was getting over it. I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: care anymore. Every podcast I listened to covers it. And
Speaker 3: now that the website came out, which should just be like, fuck, Blake.
Speaker 1: What are all the podcasts that you're listening to? Saying
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't listen to podcasts. I think, like,
Speaker 1: I don't really listen to that many podcasts, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they're covering it much.
Speaker 3: Well, at first, it seemed like everybody was on her
Speaker 3: side because of this sexual harassment stuff and him being
Speaker 3: like this cringey male feminist and all this shit. But
Speaker 3: now I think that he's coming to maleist. That's what
Speaker 3: his podcast was about, being a male femine.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even really know who these people are,
Speaker 1: and I don't care.
Speaker 3: I've really never heard of him before this happens, so
Speaker 3: I just want to say that.
Speaker 1: But I think everyhole thing is fake, just for like
Speaker 1: a publicity stimp for the movie.
Speaker 3: No, I really don't, because the movie did really well
Speaker 3: before any of this came out. Oh so, I think
Speaker 3: everybody was initially on her side because of the sexual
Speaker 3: harassment claims and like, you don't want to be that
Speaker 3: person that's telling somebody what their experience was like. But
Speaker 3: now that he has all these receipts of everything and
Speaker 3: every single claim she's had and having the other side
Speaker 3: of it, now, I think that people are swaying to
Speaker 3: his side because it's it's undeniable, you're looking at exact evidence,
Speaker 3: and if this goes to trial, which it's scheduled for
Speaker 3: in March of twenty twenty six, I think it's going
Speaker 3: to be just as entertaining.
Speaker 1: Six that's next year. I think he tied to Discovery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I think this will be on the same level of
Speaker 3: the Gwyneth Paltrows the excited one exactly. And I hope
Speaker 3: it's like TV ridiculous thing. Yeah. I can't wait, but
Speaker 3: that's our thoughts. Can't wait to get some nasty grams
Speaker 3: from about that, but ugh whatever. If you guys have
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