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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with

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Speaker 1: the story of the day.

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Speaker 3: So another plane crash, but this time twenty minutes from

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Speaker 3: our house, which is our houses, which is so insane

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Speaker 3: to think about.

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Speaker 1: The news has been crazy for the past couple weeks,

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Speaker 1: Like I can't, as Nancy would say, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm drinking from the fire hydrant, Like it's just coming

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Speaker 1: so fast all the time.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we just talked to everyone on Thursday

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Speaker 1: about the other plane crash, and now it's like we're

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Speaker 1: here right.

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Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, And I was thinking, you know, I keep

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Speaker 3: seeing I kept seeing memes last week that was like,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it's till January, And I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 3: this month is going by extra long compared to normal.

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Speaker 3: And then to think about how we started the year with,

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Speaker 3: you know, the incident in New Orleans and in Vegas,

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Speaker 3: and now we're ending the month quite literally with a

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Speaker 3: bang in the Philadelphia area. It's super scary.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: I was driving to Boston and you texted me and

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Speaker 3: just said another plane crash. I didn't even know it

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Speaker 3: was near us because I just left my house and

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Speaker 3: it turns out it was in Northeast Philadelphia just after

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Speaker 3: six pm. This ambulance jet carrying six people, within under

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Speaker 3: a minute after they took off from the Northeast Airport

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Speaker 3: crashed into the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so terrifying that the videos and the photos

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Speaker 1: are just you can't believe something like that would happen

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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood. And now I can't help but think

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Speaker 1: about it, like planes fly over our house all day

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Speaker 1: all the time. Are the airport's right there, and you

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Speaker 1: just don't even think that there's these literal like bombs

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Speaker 3: You know, Well, you know, I don't think everybody obviously

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Speaker 3: knew what happened at first, and I think that's what

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Speaker 3: a lot of people thought, that it was a bum

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Speaker 3: And when you see videos of this going down, it

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Speaker 3: literally looks like a missile is dropping from the sky

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Speaker 3: and this mushroom as cloud goes up. What would you

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel terrible for anyone that had

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Speaker 1: to experience that, And I've obviously we're from this area.

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Speaker 1: I've been up that way a million times. It's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know the area so well, so it's easier for

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Speaker 1: me to picture in my head what that would have

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Speaker 1: been like. And just thankfully because it was rush hour

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Speaker 1: the grace of God, that a traffic light had changed

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Speaker 1: and there was that gap in between or something, because

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Speaker 1: there just wasn't that many cars that you would see

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Speaker 1: to be expected in Philadelphia rush hour traffic. Thank God,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. I mean, people got hurt, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: as bad as it could have been.

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Speaker 3: No, totally. And I was thinking of everybody driving on

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Speaker 3: the street because the explosion was huge. I mean you

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Speaker 1: The hole in the ground. Yeah, there's like an eight

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Speaker 1: foot crater in the ground. It's so outrageous. I want

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Speaker 1: to go see it, actually, but they probably won't let

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Speaker 3: No, I doubt the Press Pass. Actually. I think they

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Speaker 3: But we should try to go on a field trip

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Speaker 3: I am interested in seeing it. And the first thing

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Speaker 3: I think when I see all these dash cam videos

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Speaker 3: I mean, I told you Ricky had been driving home

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Speaker 1: I know you could see by the video that people

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's just if you guys haven't seen

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Speaker 1: in the gross room. And then of course the aftermath

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Speaker 1: there's a woman missing. You know that, right?

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't think I saw there was a missing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said that her sister's missing and she was

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Speaker 3: Oh my God, but like.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, like that impact is so heavy and deep,

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Speaker 1: the mayor does keep saying that like this, the injury

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Speaker 1: we just don't know right now everything. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: what be the chances that she was just missing a

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Speaker 1: forty some year old person, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is extremely odd. Right now we know all

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Speaker 3: six people that were on the plane died. Not that

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Speaker 3: that's not sad by itself, but this has an extra

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Speaker 3: So I'm assuming she was going to.

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Speaker 1: Chop right, because she was going to Shriners.

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Speaker 3: Okay, she was going to Shriners. So she was getting

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Speaker 3: I mean there, she was a very sick kid.

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Speaker 1: And it's just think about how terrible it is as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so on that plane was the little girl, her mother,

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Speaker 3: a doctor, a paramedic, and the two pilots. They were

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Speaker 3: going back to Mexico. It's really really upsetting that she

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Speaker 1: We also know that the worst thing ever. I just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's the child. This ten year old

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Speaker 3: He got impaled in the head, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: So there was another video going around of a guy

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Speaker 1: it's all on video. I mean, so many people are outside.

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Speaker 1: It's a Friday night in the city, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, even worse is like all these

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Speaker 3: over the street in people's houses. There was a full

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Speaker 1: I don't I know, it's just one of the of

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Speaker 1: the body parts in a person's house is so disturbing.

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Speaker 1: And this spot woman was getting interviewed and saying that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was the most disturbing picture for me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just and I can't help but think because

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Speaker 1: All of the people on board would have done as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is really lucky. And then speaking of that case,

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Speaker 3: there's you know, they're still doing an investigation, and with

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Speaker 3: the Philly crash they don't. They're not going to know

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: In the DC case, they did recover the black box,

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Speaker 3: so I think that'll have a lot of telling information

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Speaker 1: They just did in last night in Philly too, they

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Speaker 1: found a hole, so yeah, they were able to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if they could figure it out. At this point,

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Speaker 1: who cares it happened, right, It's not like you're going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess they want to see if, like

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Speaker 3: you know, if it was human error or if the

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Speaker 3: at the other models and adjust. That's why they have

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Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying though, It's just like.

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Speaker 3: But with the d gosh, they have a temporary morgue

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Speaker 3: setup also because of so many bodies, which is crazy

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Speaker 3: case went to the me right, so yeah, they would

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Speaker 3: in that case, since it wasn't that many people. And

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Speaker 3: that's what I was going to tell you, the difference

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Speaker 3: between putting like a makeshift more. I mean, six or

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Speaker 3: seven people. Isn't that many people for a Philadelphia Medical

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Speaker 3: Examiner's office, especially because honestly, six of those people with

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Speaker 3: in a body bag like they're not even you know,

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to separate them and figure out what.

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Speaker 1: Belongs to who. But there's not even intact people. The

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Speaker 1: person on the ground too, I don't know who died

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Speaker 1: I can see why it won because people get paid

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Speaker 1: So they didn't say why this five year old child

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Speaker 1: sparked it. But I don't know. Just it's just so

439
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: sad to think that is sad. I know, the companies

440
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Just think about from the mom's perspective.

441
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: You don't want to say like, oh, this has never happened.

442
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: That just doesn't help, you know.

443
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't help because it did happen that one

444
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 3: time and it was fatal. So I think they're putting

445
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: that out so people aren't scared to continue getting the treatment,

446
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: But it doesn't make it better for this particular fan.

447
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Speaker 1: Crazy because I've never had it done, so I don't know.

448
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys that have had something like this sun

449
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: might be able to speak to it. But do you

450
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Speaker 1: think that the common person that just goes and does

451
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: this is aware that that's even a possibility. No, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm thinking. Like, do they make

453
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: you sign a waiver and say like, hey, this might happen.

454
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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

455
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Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll see if I'm assuming a lawsuit's

456
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: gonna come out of this in some yeah, I think so.

457
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Speaker 1: And I'm curious because it is being used off label

458
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: too at that place, because I think that place does

459
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: all off label, I'm pretty sure. So I don't I

460
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean they're allowed to, not that they're

461
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: doing something they're not allowed.

462
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: To, but but it's just not curious. It's just not

463
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: approved treatment. But you know, as.

464
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Speaker 1: Usual, we don't ever get a follow up on any case.

465
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: If we ever do, we always tell you, guys, but

466
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: we never do. You never hear anything again on certain things,

467
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: or do.

468
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Speaker 3: We get updates that you're purely conspiratorial and you're just like,

469
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Speaker 3: I can't go on a show and just say this

470
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Speaker 3: because there's somebody on red and said it. So I

471
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: don't know.

472
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: We got the worst, the worst conspiracies we were getting

473
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: was the girl that died in the oven at Walmart. Yeah,

474
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: just like the most insane things. And I was like,

475
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Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that out loud, because there's no

476
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: way that that's true. Just yeah, I can't even believe

477
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: people would spread the rumor because it just sounds so.

478
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: Outrageous until an official news outlet writes it up as

479
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Speaker 3: fact or there's a lawsuit, and then that's even skeptical.

480
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is skeptical, but at least it's a little

481
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: bit more than right, it, I suppose. Okay, so God,

482
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: this next one is, well, I'm wondering.

483
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Speaker 3: How you feel because I know you've done this a

484
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 3: couple of times, and by version, I have a story.

485
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: I have a story about this actually all right. Back

486
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, this woman who is twenty years

487
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: old through a party for her child, and at the party,

488
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: people were, you know, taking the sucking helium out of

489
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: balloons to make their voices really squeaky and high pitch.

490
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Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of people do this. I think

491
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Speaker 3: pretty much everybody in our life has done this at

492
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Speaker 3: some party at some point in time. But they convinced

493
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Speaker 3: this mother to do it, and when she did it,

494
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: somebody turned up the flow on the canister with the

495
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Speaker 3: helium and it immediately hit her in the back of

496
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Speaker 3: the throat, according to her twin sister, and then she

497
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: collapsed immediately.

498
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Speaker 1: So I want so this is my story. A couple

499
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Speaker 1: years ago, I was across the street with the neighbors

500
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Speaker 1: with the kids and everything, and there was balloon at

501
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: the house for whatever reason, and we started doing that

502
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: to show the kids, like, hey, your voice, kids sound funny.

503
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: So then the kids were like, can we do it?

504
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, you know what.

505
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Speaker 2: This is.

506
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Speaker 1: This is probably really bad, just thinking I don't really

507
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: have any experience with a person that died from this,

508
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: like this particular case, but just from what I know

509
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: from every carbon monoxide whatever. Let me just look this up, right,

510
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: And my neighbor's a nurse, and we're just kind of like, eh, whatever,

511
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: and we both look it up and we're like, oh

512
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: my god, just we would never let our kids do that.

513
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: We freaked out. We're like, we're never doing that again.

514
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: We're so sorry. This was this is terrible. We didn't

515
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: think of this and stuff, and yeah, so it's it's

516
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the same as kind of same as having carbon monoxide

517
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: exposure or huffing injuries. It just replaces the oxygen on

518
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: your blood cells and you can die from asphyxia. And

519
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: that's what happened in this case. So they say about

520
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: putting warning labels and stuff, but people don't typically have

521
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: warning labels on the balloons and things like that. Now

522
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about a totally different situation here, though. You

523
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: can probably in theory, die from just breathing it in

524
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: from a balloon, but this woman went directly up to

525
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: the tank and sucked it out of the tank. And

526
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: the air pressure because if you ever see a container

527
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: like that, it says that it's under pressure, because it

528
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: is because it could explode, just like the hyperbaric oxygen

529
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: chamber we just talked about, right, So it's under so

530
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: much pressure that just that stream of air going into

531
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Speaker 1: your lungs could cause lung damage and then the amount

532
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: of it going in could cause you to die. And

533
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: that's what happened with her. Like you should absolutely never

534
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: ever ever put your mouth off to something like that

535
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and try to suck it in.

536
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: Well, So then they brought the canister to the coroner

537
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: who said there was a warning label on it, but

538
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: that was in really small print. So I guess now,

539
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: since it's been a years since this happened, the family's

540
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 3: saying that she was not aware of the dangers of it,

541
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: and they're trying to call for really large, obnoxious warning

542
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: labels to be on these canisters so people are fully

543
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: aware of what this was any other country, right, this

544
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: was in New Zealand.

545
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I'm pretty sure in America there's

546
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: pretty big tags if I'm not mistaken.

547
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking about it. And I feel like there

548
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: are pretty big stickers on the tanks themselves, but how

549
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: many people Because it has the MSCs triangle on it

550
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: that says all the hazards with everything, I feel like

551
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: it's pretty big, well here, but not there, so I

552
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: guess over there they're trying to get it changed.

553
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mean, this is just such a such

554
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: a stupid death, you know what I mean, Like it's sad,

555
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: she was a mom. Just it's just it didn't need

556
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: to happen. But you could see, I mean, like listen,

557
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: like it just happened with us, but with me and

558
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: my neighbor, and we're both educated in medical stuff, and

559
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: it's just like you don't don't really think about it.

560
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: But then it's like essentially, okay, well you shouldn't be

561
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: doing whippets and things like. It's kind of on the

562
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: same lines of like the huffing.

563
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Speaker 3: You know, Well, I just think unfortunately, things like this

564
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: need to happen so people are aware of it. Yeah,

565
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: I mean not that they should happen to make people aware,

566
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: but people don't realize until something really bad happen now

567
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: and then they stop doing it. This next case about

568
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: this forty eight year old guy. He went to the

569
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Speaker 3: emergency room with abdominal pain, which he said started about

570
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: a couple hours after he was mowing his lawn. So

571
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: at first he didn't know if he like got hit

572
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: by something or was stung by a bee or something

573
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: like that. Couldn't really explain what the pain was. So

574
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: he starts getting tests at the hospital and what did

575
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: they end up seeing?

576
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: So they did when he was looking at his abdomen

577
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: because he was having his pain and his abdomen and

578
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: he was looking and he didn't see anything. So he

579
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know what's happening right now.

580
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: He goes to the hospital, they do an examine. They

581
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: don't see anything on his abdomen, but he's kind of

582
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: freaking out so bad that he's in pain that they say, okay,

583
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: let's do a set scan and let's also do an ultrasound.

584
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: And when they went to do the ultrasound, he was

585
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: in so much pain. They were having a hard time

586
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: just pushing the doppler on his belly because his belly

587
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: hurt so bad. So they did the CT scan and

588
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: they saw that he had this seven centimeter piece of

589
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: metal that was pierced into his abdomen. And here they

590
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: think that it flew. It was like again a shrapnel

591
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: injury from the lawnmower that went right through his skin.

592
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was a rusty nail. Do you think

593
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: it was just like laying in the grass and then yeah,

594
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Speaker 3: it just shy up.

595
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Speaker 1: I have a case in the gross room of one

596
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: of our members actually sent it to us. Her husband

597
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: was mowing the grass and ran over one of those

598
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: little flagpoles, you know, the little the one that has

599
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: my little Philly's flag on it. Yeah, like something like

600
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: that small and when he ran it over, the thing broke,

601
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: the blade broke the metal off and it flew into

602
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: his leg and went into the bone of his leg.

603
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

604
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like because it's just it's it's a shrapnel injury,

605
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when they looked at

606
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: the guy's abdomen again, they saw that he had this

607
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: area of a little tiny area of inflammation right corresponding

608
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: to where that went through that they couldn't even see.

609
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: They actually put a picture of his abdomen basically saying,

610
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: do you see anything here because if we examine, if

611
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: you examined him right now, would you think that he

612
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: got pierced with something. No, it's just it's because it

613
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: was so thin and it goes it's hot, and it

614
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: goes through so fast that it just pierced right through

615
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: like a little dot.

616
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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This episode is brought to you by the Gross Room guys.

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Speaker 1: This week we did an amazing case that is the

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Speaker 1: John o'keeth murder that well we don't know if it

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Speaker 1: but it's a very interesting murder slash accidental slash, what

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Speaker 1: have heard of the woman that's on trial for this case.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Karen Reid. Well she's on a break

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Speaker 1: right now, right because there was a hung jewelry. Well,

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Speaker 1: there is a mistrial, so she's awaiting another trial. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so she But we're talking all about the case and

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Speaker 1: it's super controversial. It's one of these ones that's on

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Speaker 1: the internet that's just making people go completely crazy. So

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Speaker 1: you're either on the team that she did it or

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Speaker 1: on the team that she didn't do it. But regardless,

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Speaker 1: we're going to break down the entire case in the

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Speaker 1: we're going to display the autopsy findings, which is going

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Speaker 1: to be super interesting and I will give my opinion

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Speaker 1: it and it's something I don't think that they brought

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Speaker 3: All right, So we've talked about this case on here

645
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Speaker 3: before and many times in the grocer room, but we

646
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Speaker 3: have updates about the Ellen Greenberg case. But as a

647
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: quick reminder. She was the teacher in Philadelphia. She was

648
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old when she was found stabbed twenty

649
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: times in her apartment during a snowstorm. Initially, because of

650
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Speaker 3: the amount of stab wounds, the Philly and Me had

651
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Speaker 3: determined that she died as a homicide, but then after

652
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Speaker 3: some police pushback, he changed it to a suicide. And

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Speaker 3: her family has been fighting this since twenty eleven. So

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Speaker 3: what is the current update on the situation.

655
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's a really good update, actually, and it shows

656
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: that you should really fight for things if you believe

657
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: them not to be true. Because her parents have been

658
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: fighting all this time, and now they've been saying, can

659
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: you just change the death certificate to not say suicide

660
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: and to say even if for it to say undetermined

661
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: because they just didn't believe that her daughter killed herself off,

662
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: just with all of the evidence present, and they wouldn't

663
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: do it. And then finally the medical examiner that did

664
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: the case said that this is exactly what he said.

665
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: It is my professional opinion. Ellen's manner of death should

666
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: be designated as something other than suicide, so that only

667
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: leaves so there's only five manners of death, so it

668
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't natural. It definitely wasn't an accident. So all

669
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: you have left is suicide, homicide or undetermined. Undetermined would

670
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: be worst case scenario because then they're going to say,

671
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: we don't know if she killed herself or we don't

672
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: know if someone killed her, and that would be the

673
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: worst case scenario in terrible because if someone killed her,

674
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: they should be prosecuted for it.

675
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: You know, do you think the timing is suspicious considering

676
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: a judge just decided that the emmy and the lead

677
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: detective would have to testify at trial, and now that

678
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: the city has decided to settle and reopen the investigation.

679
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I I just read an article, and I don't know

680
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: if I'm reading it incorrectly, but it seems like the

681
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: family sued the city and then right before this lawsuit

682
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: went forward, doctor Osborne, who's the medical examiner that did

683
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the autopsy, was like, you know what, I'll change it.

684
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, well, that's weird. Right before you were

685
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: supposed to get sued, you'll change it. And then that's

686
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, I do. I think that that's

687
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: why they decided to do it. But in all honesty,

688
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: like he should have changed it years ago. So he's

689
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: saying now that there's all this new evidence to life,

690
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: which which i've been there's been. I don't. I don't

691
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree with it either, though, because he's

692
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: saying that he initially, especially from the medical examiner's point

693
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: of view, if he did the autopsy and just looking

694
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: at the body not knowing anything, because that's what originally happened,

695
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: he just was like this, someone killed this girl. Then

696
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: that's the end of the story. It doesn't matter if

697
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: someone didn't break in or whatever like that to me

698
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I know, circumstantial evidence matters, but like for

699
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: you doing the death certificate, you should think that that's

700
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: how that person died. Then that's how that person died.

701
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: And then you let someone come in and put some

702
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: ideas in your head and then you changed it your

703
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: story to fit that scenario, and it's just two completely

704
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: different things, you know. So I'm not I don't. I

705
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: think this whole case is a giant shit show to

706
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: begin with. It just has always been a shit show.

707
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's getting re examined. Finally, the problem

708
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: is is that her body's gone. They do still have evidence,

709
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: they have pieces parts everything in jars at the medical

710
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Examinar's office, microscopic slides, reports, photographs that they could look at.

711
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: But now there's always going to be some kind of

712
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: a question when there really shouldn't have ever been a question.

713
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's I'm, you know, putting on

714
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: my tinfoil hat because I think if he went on

715
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: the stand, or maybe the detective did that, maybe the

716
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: city feared larger issues being exposed at hand.

717
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: And I think, of course, and there they're already under

718
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: scrutiny anyway because of these these issues over there, you

719
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So they should, they should pay

720
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: the family off, but they also should just reopen it.

721
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: And I mean this, there's there's been proof now that

722
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: they're saying that she has injuries that occurred when she

723
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: was either dead or not able to do them because

724
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: it's severed a part of her spinal cord like end

725
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: of story.

726
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: Well, I also think and I saw a lot of

727
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: similarities in this when we were covering Karen Reid case yesterday.

728
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: Was they start the investigation thinking it's one way, and

729
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: then they only look at it that way instead of

730
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: going into it totally neutral, and then figuring out what happened.

731
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's yeah, it's preconceived ideas and then you

732
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: could you could make it. It's just when you do

733
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: an autopsy, if you're really sticking to the science of

734
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: it and stuff, you shouldn't be able, Like you shouldn't

735
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: be able to take one autopsy and be like, how

736
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: could I spin this to make it look like a suicide?

737
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: Or how could I spin this to make it look

738
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: like a homicide? You know it's and that's what they

739
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: kind of tried to do. And and the guy listen, like,

740
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: if I was this guy and did what year was

741
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: the autopsy?

742
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 3: Eleven, twenty eleven?

743
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I wouldn't want to even be talking about

744
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: this anymore. And it probably weighs heavily on him all

745
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: the time because you see these parents distraught, and like.

746
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: How do you even remember something that you worked on

747
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 3: when they've worked on hundreds of cases fourteen years later.

748
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Oh, he remembers this one. I'll tell you that he

749
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: and shit for you. Yeah, I'll tell you that. They

750
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear her name over there because

751
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: it's it's but they're they're also like standing to their

752
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: ground and stuff, and listen, like I see their perspective

753
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: of it. From to a certain extent, she had a

754
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: history of being on psychological medications and she was having

755
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: some depression and anxiety issues and things like that. I

756
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: get I get that, but like the wounds, just it

757
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: just was very, very unusual. And another unusual thing is

758
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: recently with I think that's when we talked about her

759
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: just a few weeks ago, saying that her ex fiance

760
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: has come out for the first time since this has happened.

761
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: He's since remarried and has children. Well, guess what, he's

762
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: the suspect if they decide to change it to homicide.

763
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he has never been suspected of foul play,

764
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: which I think is kind of weird.

765
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: It's fit. I I just I just think he's saying.

766
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: I just think that the way and listen, this is

767
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: always the thing you say, like, you don't know how

768
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: you're going to react when someone when this situation we're

769
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: just talking about it with the plane, what happens if

770
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: there's a bomb in front of you, whatever, you don't

771
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: know how you're gonna react. But just if you listen

772
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: to the nine one one call, it just sounds like

773
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: staged almost He's like, there's he didn't see that she

774
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: had a fucking knife sticking out of her chest. They

775
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: were like, do CPR on her? Okay, first of all,

776
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: why wouldn't that even be your first thought? Like, just

777
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: you don't know how. I don't really know how to

778
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: do it. I learned it when I was nineteen years

779
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: old in college. I'm just saying like, I would try

780
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: I would try anything to save my loved one that

781
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I thought was in distress, no matter what. And the

782
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: ladies on the phone walking them through it, like it's okay,

783
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: if you touch her, you could touch her, just do

784
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: it on her chest. Oh there's a knife sticking out

785
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: of her chest. Oh my god, she must have killed herself.

786
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: Book says that, well, yeah, it's hood. Thanks, Like if

787
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: you if you find your loved one dead, why would

788
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: with a knife in their chest? Why would you ever

789
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: think that it's just And listen, people do kill themselves

790
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: with a knife, a knife, five cases in the grocer

791
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: room of it. But it's super super rare, especially in

792
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: a woman. It's just so so rare.

793
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: I I just think, like Karen, read the detail. When

794
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: you really get into the details of this case, you

795
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: could really argue it either way. Oh yeah, And because

796
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: of their sloppy that's why you can't say definitively well

797
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: exactly exactly. That's the problem because they treated this as

798
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: a suicide from the time the police and the Medical

799
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: Examiner's office showed up that they didn't treat it as

800
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: a crime scene at all. And it's the same with

801
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: the Karen Reid case. They didn't treat it as a

802
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: crime scene. And that's when people lose all your trust.

803
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: They just don't, you know. And then there was that

804
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: shady shit with his uncle going the next day and

805
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: taken her computer and stuff because it wasn't labeled a

806
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: crime scene, so he was allowed back in to get

807
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: the belongings. And you're just like, why did his uncle

808
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 3: take her computers?

809
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: Why? It's weird to me. I'm sorry, it's just fucking weird.

810
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: And he was like a lawyer, and they're like, well,

811
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: there's something shady there.

812
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's unusual. I was watching this twenty

813
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: twenty about Karen Reid last night and Matt Murphy was

814
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: actually in it, and he said, because a lot of

815
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 3: people were really critical of her for immediately getting a lawyer,

816
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: but he said in that special that that's pretty common

817
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: if you were associated with a death like this, even

818
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: if you were one hundred percent innocent, you should just

819
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: get legal counsel because it's smart. But the fact that

820
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: he got a lawyer and they're like taking the belongings

821
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: and try to get rid of stuff that is weird,

822
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: but trying to get rid of what stuff or taking

823
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: the computer we know she had for that suspicious Yeah,

824
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: for Ellen Greenberg. Sorry, so we know she had suspicious searches.

825
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: We know she was on and off of some psychiatric medications.

826
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to try to play

827
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: that as he was trying to protect her because it's

828
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: something not a lot of people knew, or what the

829
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: hell was going on. I don't want to say either way.

830
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: What happened is your text messages between them that he

831
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: just seemed very douchey.

832
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that doesn't make somebody a killer.

833
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: I understand that, But that might be why she was

834
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: on anxiety met I'm just you know what I mean, Like,

835
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: you can't say that either, you just I can't because

836
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship with someone that sucked before

837
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: and it gave me anxiety. So I could speak from

838
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: personal experience sometimes like you could just you could just

839
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: think about things like that, Like it's not wrong to

840
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: just assume that, right. I'm not saying it as fact.

841
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, hey, I was I was once

842
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: in a in not in a great relationship and had

843
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: anxiety and wanted to be on meds to make it

844
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: go away.

845
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: Like, if he really didn't have anything to do with this,

846
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: I feel bad because it's been going on for a while.

847
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: If he did have something to do with it, I

848
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: guess we're gonna see how that plays out because the investigation.

849
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: How outrageous would it be if he had something to

850
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: do with it and he thought he was like in

851
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: the clear and then that's when he decided to get

852
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: married and I have kids and stuff, and now he

853
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: might be going on trial for that because who else

854
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: would go on.

855
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: Trial for it? Well, generally speaking, I just want to say,

856
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: if you have committed a crime, it's really ignorant to

857
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 3: think that you're beyond it. With technology, DNA everything like

858
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: that going on today, I don't think there's ever a

859
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: point where you should be like, cool, I'm in the clear.

860
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: Because we see these things.

861
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: It's a tough taste case right now too. I mean,

862
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for the Emmy's office to have to

863
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: re examine this. It's because if whatever they say, if

864
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: they say, okay, we determine that this is a homicide,

865
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: then they're going to have to you then have to

866
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: find somebody that did it. And it's it's like what

867
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: if they are wrong? You know, that's the thing, and

868
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: and you do, like I said, people do kill themselves

869
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: with knives sometimes. But the whole thing is is the

870
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: injuries that were made by the knife are are what's

871
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: in question. And when they say that they're looking at

872
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: these specific injuries and saying, you know, because one doctor

873
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: said that that they looked at it and it did

874
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: not incapacitate her. But then that particular doctor that looked

875
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: at it said that she never looked at it. She

876
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: said she has no receipts of doing a consultation for

877
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: that case. But I do believe that he possibly brought

878
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: it over to her to look at and just was like, hey,

879
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: look at this. You know what I mean, because we

880
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: do that all the time in pathologies, like totally like

881
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: off the books, just like what do you think about this?

882
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: But like if that was the determining thing. And doctor Rourke,

883
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: who's who's an excellent, like world renowned neuropathologist, said that

884
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: it would have been good if that was in writing,

885
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of cover all the bases here,

886
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: and if she determined that, oh, she still could have

887
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: been moving her arms even if she made this incision,

888
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: then like end the story.

889
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm curious how this is gonna play out.

890
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean when you were just like thinking you're in

891
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: the clear, I was thinking, you know, they didn't catch

892
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: Joseph DiAngelo, the Golden State killer for fifty years, but

893
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: they did the last known committed c I was in

894
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: the seventies and they rested him I believe, in twenty eighteen.

895
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: So everybody should be on their dose. I just think it.

896
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 3: They don't.

897
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: I understand that. I just think that right now, if

898
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: there's no more evidence that could come out, it's just

899
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of like obviously you would think it's the boyfriend

900
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: because he was there and he acted weird and this

901
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: and like the whole scene of it was weird and unusual.

902
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like there's not really any

903
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: evidence besides circumstantial which is minimal. That's that that would

904
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: implicate him at this point.

905
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I think they're gonna have a really

906
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: difficult time because it all boils down to the original investigation,

907
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: which was fourteen.

908
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna I would say that they'll probably just change

909
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: it to undetermined. Yeah, so that would be that would

910
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: be safe unless, like you know, unless a neuropathologist looks

911
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: at it with certainty and says no, this, you know,

912
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: I just think at this point it's too messy. But

913
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm happy for her family that they're getting

914
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: some answers because if it was handled correctly, like you

915
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: were saying, if the evidence was handenedled correctly in the beginning,

916
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: then maybe they would have been at peace with it.

917
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: And they've made their life a living fucking hell.

918
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I can't even imagine going through something like

919
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: this and then you have to fight, you know, a

920
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: government and to tea about something like this, and that

921
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: just makes it all the heart Yeah, all the more difficult.

922
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: So at least hopefully this is some steps to getting

923
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 3: them some type of closure that they deserve.

924
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

925
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: Back in twenty twenty three, this woman thought it was

926
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: a good idea to use a hair dryer to warm

927
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 3: up her infant son, and of course she was high

928
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: and fell asleep while the hair dryer was still on

929
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: and ended up burning.

930
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: The child to dead. This lady's thirty two has a baby.

931
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: The kid had such severe burns on its body. I

932
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: don't even know, like what the actual cause of death was,

933
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: was a hyperthermia, I'm not sure. They just said that

934
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: the baby's body was burned, but just from a skin

935
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: burn in a couple hours, I don't think that that

936
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: would be something that would kill you. It's there has

937
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more to the mechanism that

938
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: caused the kid to actually die there. But and I

939
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: don't know if it was a couple hours or how

940
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: long she went to the to sleep, but she woke

941
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: up and he was unresponsive, and she tried to give

942
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: him CPR and everything, and he ended up dying. And

943
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: they found they said that what she was trying to

944
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: like hide an apparatus to smoke marijuana. See like they

945
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: were just saying that she smoked weed, and you say

946
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: she's high. It's like, well, she wasn't high on like heroin.

947
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, she was on weed, which is legal, right

948
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: every like everybody smokes weed. Now, I smell it all

949
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: day long outside. It's like a new flower outside.

950
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 3: Parts of this story that are really I'm really confused about,

951
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: or they're saying. She was arrested the following day on

952
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: one count of cruelty to children in the second degree,

953
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: but then she was released on if your kid died

954
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: from something you did, why are you getting released on bond?

955
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: And then of course, while she's out on bond, a

956
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: year later, she gets a DUI.

957
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean this, this is the thing though

958
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: she she's out on bond because in like it was negligence,

959
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: but it was an accident. I don't think that they

960
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: determined that she was under the influence.

961
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 3: So can't you see this the same as like as

962
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: a dui, Like you willingly did something while you were

963
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: on Yeah, but if you if you get in an

964
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: accident and kill somebody with a DUI, you don't always

965
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: go to jail either.

966
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: It just depends. It just depends. But I would I

967
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know, like if they put things in different categories

968
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: because easily like let's say, I mean she had weed, right,

969
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: but let's say she took benadryl and fell asleep or

970
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: something too like the whole thing she was doing was

971
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: just fucking stupid. It's it's just I don't even understand,

972
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Like did she not have heat, why was she whatever?

973
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was just stupid to begin with,

974
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: but it was. It was just negligence and stupidity. I

975
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: don't I just don't see that she could be in

976
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: jail for a long time for that when they determined

977
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: that she wasn't like trying to hurt the kid.

978
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 3: Really well, now a grand jury's hit her with second

979
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: degree murder charge, so somebody thinks it's more serious.

980
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what

981
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: the circumstances are behind that.

982
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: But well, this next one's really interesting, involving a DUI.

983
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: So in Sweden, this guy was flying a drone over

984
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: a temporary no fly zone that was over a car show.

985
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: So police tracked a drone back to this guy and

986
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: they tested his blood alcohol level, which was point zero

987
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: six ' nine. And really interestingly, in Sweden their legal

988
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: limit is point zero two, whereas here it's point zero eight.

989
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: So because he was technically over the Sweden's legal limit,

990
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: he was charged with a drone d UI. This is

991
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: something I never even thought of. But it Oh but

992
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: actually because he was flying in restricted airspace, and now

993
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: with all this shit that just happened over the past

994
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 3: couple days with the airplanes, you're kind of like, Okay,

995
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: maybe this is just something I never even thought of.

996
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 3: You know how we talked about this on this show

997
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: that New Jersey's having, Like I don't know if we

998
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: still are because I haven't seen it, but we were

999
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 3: having this crazy drone problem with these big drones flying

1000
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: over and all this stuff.

1001
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: Some of those drones are freaking big. They're like the

1002
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: size of a car, I know. So I don't know

1003
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: if a regular person, like, can I just go buy

1004
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: a drone that's that big if I have enough money

1005
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: to buy it. I don't know. There has to be

1006
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: some kind of regulations or whatever. But like, certainly I

1007
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: guess you shouldn't be driving them if you're drunk. Well,

1008
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: not campos to go in a certain height and in

1009
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: certain areas well.

1010
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: They're saying it's an aircraft even though it's flown by itself,

1011
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: it is controlled by someone down on the ground and

1012
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: could fall from a high height and injure somebody let

1013
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: alone to hit a helicopter an airplane caused significant damage

1014
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 3: or a deadly crash, depending on the size of the own,

1015
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: so he used charge a dui and find three thousand

1016
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: dollars for it. I'm curious either to get to find

1017
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: three thousand dollars for DOUI with a regular car in

1018
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 3: this country. No, but I'm fascinated that their legal limit

1019
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: is so low compared to here. It should be, yeah,

1020
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: it should be, but I'm just like it was boy,

1021
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: you know what.

1022
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: You know, what's like an excellent example because I don't

1023
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: drink that much, right, so when I do, if I

1024
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: just were to drink to get my blood to be

1025
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: right at the legal limit, I would be piss ass dronk.

1026
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I get drunk so easily off of

1027
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: one drink. I would never I could never drink drive

1028
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: with one drink, even if it was a glass of wine.

1029
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't. So it varies from person to person, especially

1030
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: depending on like how dependent you are on alcohol, your tolerance,

1031
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: but that it's very it's very high limit. Considering that

1032
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: there's some people that go to the bar one time

1033
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: and like, hey, let me just have you know, yeah,

1034
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean I know other people that could have five

1035
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: or six drinks and be completely fine to drive.

1036
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: But well, it varies person to person. That's why. Yeah,

1037
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they base it off of how many

1038
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: drinks you said you had, but what's going on in

1039
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: your body.

1040
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't matter because the blood Like what

1041
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is the blood work and the

1042
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: blood alcohol level isn't necessarily telling. It's not equivalent to

1043
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: your impairment, you know what I mean. Like, I like

1044
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: my I'm saying, if I have one drink, I feel

1045
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: like I can't drive, but my limit would still be

1046
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: considered legal, even though I personally think my impairment's off. Yeah,

1047
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1048
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: All right? This next one is so completely disturbing. So

1049
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: in Florida, this sixty three year old guy asked his

1050
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 3: thirty year old son to help him get back into

1051
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: his email account. I guess he got locked out typical

1052
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: boomer question by the typical boomer question. But while the

1053
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: son was trying to get his dad back into the

1054
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 3: email account, he came across child porn that was stored

1055
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: in the dad's phone and ended up turning him into

1056
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: the police. That I love this story, so it's cool

1057
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: that he did that.

1058
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: Could you imagine going through your parents' email and finding

1059
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: fucking child porn?

1060
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: Listen, what was it? Nine hundred and Yeah, we're not

1061
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: talking about one picture. We're talking about nine hundred and

1062
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: fifty two files.

1063
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: And the worst part is is that so this guy,

1064
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: the son, is thirty years old, the dad's sixty three.

1065
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: He has other children and has grandkids that would fucking

1066
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: frighten me.

1067
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: And they said in the pictures the kids were ranging

1068
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: from ages five to eight years old. That is absolutely disgusting.

1069
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the son because, like you, like,

1070
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: nobody ever even wants to see those pictures. No, So

1071
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: it's like, now your dad is one hundred percent going

1072
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: to jail for this, which we could talk about him

1073
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: getting let out on bond two, but you have to

1074
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: deal with that this is now public information. You had

1075
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: to see these pictures against your will when you just

1076
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: thought you were helping an innocent boomer like get back

1077
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: into their email. But the dad was released after posting

1078
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars bond. I don't understand why bond

1079
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: is even allowed for somebody in this situation. Clearly is

1080
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: he has a harm to children in society If he's

1081
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: saving pictures like this.

1082
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: He admitted he was doing it. It's not like he

1083
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: was even trying to act like his phone got hacked.

1084
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't.

1085
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: It just is so gross, it really is. It's really

1086
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: really discussed. I just I can't stand that a guy.

1087
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't stand that people can get this stuff. That's

1088
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: what bothers me the most. It's not like he took

1089
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: them of a child he had access to, like he

1090
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: was able to get them off the internet somehow, and

1091
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: that bothers me so Like, I just with the amount

1092
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: of technology that exists, I just don't understand how this

1093
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: is possibly going on, that all of these people are trading.

1094
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: We actually had another story we didn't talk about this

1095
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: week that we can mention really quick that there was

1096
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: this law enforcement husband and wife from New Jersey that

1097
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: was distributing child porn of with their own children, like

1098
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: and people. They were doing it on some site called kick,

1099
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: a social media site called kick. I never even heard

1100
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: of it, But there's all these like new, smaller social

1101
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: media sites that might not.

1102
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: Have wasn't that the site the Yes I shooter was, like.

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00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: I believe so I was like I felt like I

1104
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: heard this before, but like I'm saying, like they're a

1105
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: smaller company, so they might not have the same amount

1106
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: of technology that like Facebook has or something, you know,

1107
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: and they need to like, like, it's just so freaking

1108
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: disturbing that that there's not some technology that could pick

1109
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: up that there's that there's a child. It's just so

1110
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: fucking gross to me.

1111
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: So can't He's facing over twenty felony charges and each

1112
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: of those charges carries a maximum of fifteen years. So

1113
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: hopefully this guy just goes to jail for the rest

1114
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: of his life and rots in there. Do you think

1115
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 3: that the thing?

1116
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: Do you think honestly, like, this guy's third and he's

1117
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: known his dad his whole life, Like, do you think

1118
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: that there's other stuff too? And this was this It

1119
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: can't be like a total shocker that this happened.

1120
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, maybe it's one of those like you ever eat

1121
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: a meeta older guy that's just like a little like

1122
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: pervy or creepy, Like you can't assume they're doing the

1123
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: absolute worst thing ever like this, But I'm sure there

1124
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: were certain personality traits that were probably like, you know,

1125
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: off putting. And now they're a piece together, and I

1126
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 3: wonder if they're they're going to have to interview the

1127
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: grandchildren and the kids and see if they ever were molested. Yeah,

1128
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: because how could you trust that he wasn't doing that.

1129
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: I know, it's it's really disgusting.

1130
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I know, it really is. Okay, medical news, all.

1131
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: Right, So the FDA has announced a new non opioid

1132
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: painkiller called jur Navis.

1133
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: Suzetra that's how it is pronounced. I believe Suzetra gene

1134
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: that's the generic form it. So I guess it's been

1135
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: twenty five years since they've made a pain medication, probably

1136
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: because they're scared shitless because of the whole opioid thing.

1137
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: The last one they made was Celebrex, which is got

1138
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: its problems as well, used for arthritis and things like that.

1139
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: But the most shocking part of this article is that

1140
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: they're saying that the most commonly prescribed drugs in hospitals

1141
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: is for pain management eighty million prescriptions a year, eighty

1142
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: million and half of those are.

1143
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: For opioids, and just in the United States, just.

1144
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: In the United States side. It's fucking outrageous. It's so bad.

1145
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: They're way over prescribed. But I guess this. So this

1146
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: new drug, the opioids work by changing the way that

1147
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: your brain perceives pain, whereas the new drug is blocking

1148
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: the pathway, So you are experiencing the pain, but your

1149
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: brain doesn't know it that it's experiencing it. Now, I

1150
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: think that that in theory on paper, that sounds great,

1151
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: but I just don't trust anything now because you're just like,

1152
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: but what's the butt, Well, what's the terrible thing that's

1153
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: going to come out of this? Like what could we

1154
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: predict now that's going to be a problem in thirty

1155
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: years from now.

1156
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that oxy cotton was also advertised as

1157
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: a non addictive pain management and let's how'd that turn out?

1158
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: Right?

1159
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was like not really too long ago,

1160
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: like in modern medicine. It's it's just like they definitely

1161
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: knew it was a problem.

1162
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: So we, you know, have this giant problem in the

1163
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: world now because of that, I want to have faith

1164
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: in this and think it's this awesome thing. I don't

1165
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: know if I'll fully trust it for a long time

1166
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: because of how oxycotton went down.

1167
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: Well, maybe by the time you're you're a handicapped senior citizen,

1168
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: you could and you're you start getting really bad pain

1169
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: in your joints. It'll be you'll be ready to try

1170
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: it in thirty years or something.

1171
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. I you know, I've talked about this

1172
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: many times, how that documentary The Crime of the Century

1173
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: on HBO about your life and ruined my life. It

1174
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 3: really made me question, you know, entities like this and

1175
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: them getting paid off, and that horrible family, the Sacklers.

1176
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: They're still trying to fight to get immunity in court,

1177
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: and I'm happy that the government is like, fuck you,

1178
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: We're not letting you get away with any of this

1179
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 3: because they don't deserve it.

1180
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: So I will say it, but like I don't need

1181
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: to see it. I trust me. I know what's happening

1182
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes with the pharmaceuticals and stuff.

1183
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: There was one story in there. I literally started crying,

1184
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: which we know is not hard for me to do,

1185
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: but this one person was talking about their significant other

1186
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: and how they got in some type of accident and

1187
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: they were prescribed oxy cotton and at one point that

1188
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 3: I believe it was a wife that was on the

1189
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: drugs and the husband went in their living room and

1190
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: she had been folding laundry when he left the room,

1191
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: and when he came back in the room, she was

1192
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: literally passed stout standing up in the hamper, Like, think

1193
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: about how horrible that is. And that's just one example

1194
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: of just like how horrible these drugs are and how

1195
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: they could take these people that are not their traditional

1196
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: you know, addicdes exactly and turn them into these people.

1197
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: And it's disgusting and really sad. So I'll keep saying this.

1198
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: I want to have faith in this and hopefully it

1199
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: will change things around. But also it's going to be expensive.

1200
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: They were saying it's going to be around fifteen dollars

1201
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: a pill, which is a lot of money, and it's

1202
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: going to take some time for that to go down,

1203
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 3: and we're gonna have to wait for studies over all

1204
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: these years and see the long term effects of it.

1205
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of this, this is like maybe a completely different

1206
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: side note, but I saw this Instagram account. It was like,

1207
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: there's a couple that document Kensington and Philadelphia. I don't

1208
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: know exactly which particular one this was, but just speaking

1209
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: of the opioid epidemic and everything, if you guys haven't

1210
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: seen videos from Kensington Philadelphia, it's just shocking that this

1211
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: exists anywhere in the world, that people are living like this.

1212
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: And this one photo, this one video had this woman

1213
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: who was just high laying there. She was alive, you

1214
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: could see her moving. She looked dead though, and she

1215
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: had like a million flies on her crotch, right, And

1216
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: then it panned over to a couple next to them,

1217
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: and there was a guy sitting on a chair and

1218
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: there was a woman that was like straddling him and

1219
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: they were both completely just high and like awake but

1220
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: not awake, you know. And just on this on a

1221
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: sidewalk in Kensington. It's just yah, it's just so outraged,

1222
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: like a beach chair, drugs all over the ground. It's

1223
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: it's just it's just so fucking sad. And it all

1224
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: originates from this shit, you know.

1225
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean when you drive through that area of the city,

1226
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 3: it's like zombie land. It just feels actually so.

1227
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: It's unreal, and I feel so terrible because I'm like,

1228
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: the these are people's children, you know, like nobody wants

1229
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 1: to be there. You're there because the circumstance. But it's

1230
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: just that life is not even a life, you know.

1231
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: It's just so terrible to be trapped in a body

1232
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: like that. It's so terrible.

1233
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. So, after Christmas in twenty twenty three,

1234
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: this family from Toronto went on what they claimed was

1235
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 3: their dream vacation and the Dominican Republic. And the first

1236
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 3: night they were there, they ate at the buffet at

1237
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: the resort. By the following morning, they were all pretty sick.

1238
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 3: They were begging the hotel for help and they were

1239
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: just kind of blowing them off, being like, yeah, yeah,

1240
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: go to the medical center on site, and I guess

1241
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: at some point they made it clear that they weren't

1242
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 3: able to get there on their own. So eventually they

1243
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: get wheelchaired over to the facility and the mother and

1244
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: the young son in this case are having difficulty breathing,

1245
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: so they transport them to a local hospital via ambulance

1246
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: and they ended up dying there shortly after.

1247
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Is this like so scary?

1248
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

1249
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: I guess what happened, it seems is that so they

1250
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: didn't have symptoms for nine hours after they.

1251
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: Ate, and then it came on.

1252
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: It came on violently, and it sounds like they were

1253
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: saying that they couldn't leave the hotel room because they

1254
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: were probably throwing up and shitting so bad that I mean, like,

1255
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: think about this, You're in your hotel room and you

1256
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: got to walk down to the lobby when you're vomiting

1257
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, Like it's really hard to think

1258
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: about even doing because and plus when you're like that,

1259
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: you're very weak and you feel well and stuff. But

1260
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: the problem is is that if you're losing fluids that fast,

1261
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: you could have a major electrolyte imbalance that it could

1262
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: kill you. Really if you're not getting fluids put into

1263
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: you as fast as you're losing them like that. You know,

1264
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: that's why every time you have diarrhea and stuff, they're like,

1265
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: drink plenty of fluids and stuff. But this is a

1266
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: situation where they needed an IV long before they ended

1267
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: up getting treatment. And I think that, I mean, they

1268
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: didn't really say what caused it, but I think it

1269
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: just the way that it sounds that it was some

1270
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of a bacteria that put off toxins that were

1271
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: just just extra virulent and nasty and well, you.

1272
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 3: Know, it was complications from food poisoning, but not specifically

1273
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: what type of Yeah, they didn't say, I mean, that's

1274
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: what they did the autopsy. So imagine being on vacation

1275
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 3: with your family and then all of this going down

1276
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: your family having to get autopsied and freaking Dominican Republic.

1277
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: Like the whole thing sounds like such a nightmare. Well,

1278
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: so the husband and one of the other children survive,

1279
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And now it's like the dad has

1280
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: to tell the other little kid, your mom and your

1281
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: brother did, and they're.

1282
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: Always making at a Windham hotel. It wasn't some shadiest thing.

1283
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: It was like a like a that's what I you

1284
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I would think that that

1285
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: was a more prominent hotel that you could trust, you

1286
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1287
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 3: Well, you want to think you could trust it. But

1288
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: now they filed ten million dollar civil lawsuit claiming the

1289
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: resort lacked proper hygiene and the emergency procedures and did

1290
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: not respond in a timely matter when the family reported

1291
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: the OWNUS. So I'm curious how that's gonna work out.

1292
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm curious about the buffet. If they were following protocols,

1293
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 3: If other people were getting sick to what.

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Speaker 1: Food, someone else had to get sick too, There's no way, yeah,

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Especially if the mom and

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Speaker 1: the dad and all of the people in the one

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: family were sick, other people got sick as well. But

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Speaker 1: I think that ultimately it just was because they were

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: losing too much fluid. Yeah, I mean, so this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I looked this up and apparently there's a website called

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Speaker 1: iwspoisoned dot com where you've heard of this before, Yeah,

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: where you could anonymously put places that you've traveled. It's

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 1: actually a good idea. You couldn't. I mean, you gotta

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01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt because people are

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01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's like a review website. But on that website

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01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: it says places that people have traveled and where they've

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Speaker 1: gotten sick, and Dominican Republic is a big one. And

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01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: then in twenty twenty three, Forbes maggot zine in the

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: UK went through all of these travel forums, like millions

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: of them, and they were searching terms like food poisoning,

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01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: food borne illness, all this stuff, and they got hit

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Speaker 1: the most hits from the Dominican Republic with over thirteen

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01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: thousand posts people saying that they've gotten sick on vacation there.

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01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: So apparently their standards are not as good there, because

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01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: why would more people be getting sick?

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Speaker 3: There was there that controversy a couple of years ago

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Speaker 3: where people were dying out all the telrooms because they

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01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 3: were like putting the bed bug bombs in the room

1319
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 3: and letting people go in right aft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. It just was saying that,

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01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 1: you know, the Dominicans known for its nightlife and its

1322
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: white sandy beaches and stuff. But they're saying that over

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01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: ten percent of people that have traveled complain of holiday

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01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: sickness from that particular location.

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Speaker 3: Like it's it's it's really that's a little too much

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: for me, it is.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a high number to think about that, and

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01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: when you're especially if you're traveling and you're used to

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Speaker 1: your country and used to your healthcare in your country.

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01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're coming from America, wherever you're

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: coming from, Canada, UK, whatever, you go there and it's

1332
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: it's not your country, you know, and you're not going

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: to get the same medical treatment and stuff there as

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01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: you would hear. And it's scary to have an event

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Speaker 1: like that when you're far from home over something that's preventable,

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: you know.

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we don't really have any other death

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: news today, so we're just going to jump onto questions

1339
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 3: of the day. Every Friday at the APT Mother Knows

1340
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: Death Instagram account. We put a story up you guys

1341
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: can ask whatever questions you want. We got a lot

1342
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: this week that we're pretty interesting. So first, when somebody

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 3: does with breast implants, are they removed before cremation or burial? No,

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: I would if I had breast in plant. I have

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01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: had on a couple time, not myself.

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Speaker 1: On an autopsy, I will usually take them out because

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: they usually just pop out. Honestly, when I take the

1348
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: chest plate off, because I'm cutting through the pector alis

1349
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: muscle and it usually is just sitting there and it's

1350
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: kind of hanging in there, and I just take it

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: out because it's easier. But No, under normal circumstances, they wouldn't.

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: They wouldn't take them out. I don't see why they would.

1353
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: I just do because they're there. But yeah, I don't

1354
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: think so too. What were your pregnancy cravings. I didn't

1355
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: really have any crazy ones. I just ate like a

1356
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: fat pig. I gained so much weight, so so much weight,

1357
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: Like they count with Lilian Progis with me, Yeah, I

1358
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: mean I eat Progis a lot, but I feel like

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01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm just like an habitual eater anyway.

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Speaker 3: You know what you had with Lilian was big Max

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 3: you were You've I've barely seen no you were eating

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: them a.

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Speaker 1: Lot like you. I eat everything a lot. Like it's

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: it's really bad. I cape I hate being pregnant, but

1365
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: like I couldn't control my eating at all. It was

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01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: really bad right like right now, I'm like, like if

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: you brought me a big mac right now, I'd want

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: to eat it. I can't even eat it because it's

1369
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: not even gluten freight, but like i'd eat it right now.

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01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: But like I can control myself and be like I

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01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: can't eat a big mac every day. No, when I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I don't give a fuck. I will

1373
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: eat everything under the sun, and I don't care if

1374
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: I consume eight thousand calories a day, like it just cupcakes, milkshakes, whatever.

1375
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: Like it's just really bad. Like it was like a binge,

1376
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: but not anything specific. I always like crave sweet stuff too,

1377
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: about whatever, All right, our last ques. We the busiest

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,440
Speaker 1: people that are like I gained twenty pounds.

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Speaker 3: You're like I gained eighty p well, I towards the

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 3: end of the pregnancy, they say.

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: We're feel me within nutrition is because you're gaining too

1382
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: much weight, And I'm like, I eat five cupcakes a day.

1383
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: I know why I'm any weight. I don't need a

1384
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: nutrition is like they're gonna tell me I know why

1385
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm gaining weight. It's not like I'm ignorant. I just

1386
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 1: want it, like I.

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Speaker 3: All right. Our last question is what do you think

1388
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: so far on the blake and justin situation? Oh, I got.

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01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Thoughts on that.

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: So we haven't really talked about it because this is

1391
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: not you know, something necessarily you know what we should

1392
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 3: We should.

1393
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: Talk about it though, because it is a crime to

1394
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: falsely accuse someone of sexual assault, and it kind of

1395
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: diminishes people that have really went through sexual assault.

1396
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 3: It's fucked up, actually if I mean if.

1397
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: Like, I'm sorry, but we're reading the text messages, like

1398
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't care what either side of the story is.

1399
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: We can determine by looking at the text message is

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: what happened?

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: Right. I was talking about this over the weekend because

1402
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: it's like, you don't want to be that person that

1403
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 3: dismisses how somebody felt. Right if they do, well.

1404
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: Fuck her like she's making shit up.

1405
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't want to say normally, I don't want

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 3: to say somebody did didn't go through something like that,

1407
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: if that's what they're saying, what their experience was. But

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01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 3: it's a little hard to be that way when you're

1409
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: reading when her lawsuit's saying one thing, and then he

1410
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: has everything to prove that incorrect. So I think they're

1411
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 3: both extremely annoying people.

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01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Yes, and that is definitely that everybody could agree with that.

1413
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 3: I understand his need to make this website with all

1414
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 3: the evidence, but I think it's losery at the same time.

1415
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's lost everything, He lost his manager,

1416
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 3: his agent deals, so he, in my opinion, he has

1417
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: nothing to lose, so he's trying to clear his name.

1418
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: But with that said, I think he's cringey on his

1419
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 3: own level. I think her and Ryan Reynolds have been

1420
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: kind of a problem for a while and people have

1421
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: always thought they were annoying. I think everybody was on

1422
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: her side because of the sexual harassment stuff, but it's

1423
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: really hard when you're you know, reading all the text

1424
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: messages and you see hers have things redacted, and then

1425
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: she's saying things and like putting Taylor Swift and her

1426
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: husband on him and her her dragons. Oh, talks like that.

1427
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: It's she's just so cringey.

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01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 3: I just think they're both incredibly annoying, and this is

1429
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: like spiraling out of control.

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: I think I have a more sustinct thing of what

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01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: I think. I believe that she was having some kind

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: of a flirtatious, slash inappropriate relationship with him, whether it

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01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: be physical or emotional, and her husband found out about it,

1434
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: and she, instead of like getting in trouble with him

1435
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: and her marriage and everything, just pushed it off as

1436
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: like he was putting me in this position. And I

1437
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: don't think that they ever thought in a million years

1438
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: all this shit would come. They didn't think when they

1439
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: put this story forth that there was going to be

1440
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: a website with their text messages that people would be

1441
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: able to read the other side.

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01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: Of the story, and like where she didn't think they

1443
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 3: were miked, but he was miked. So her whole account

1444
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: got washed because she's saying, oh, he's muzzling my neck

1445
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: and saying I smell really good. But then when you

1446
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: see the clip, which is their actual conversation, not her

1447
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: retelling it, you're just like, no, it didn't really go

1448
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: down like that. I think a lot of things they

1449
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: consider too, is it's my opinion that she did not

1450
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 3: read the book, and therefore she did not know how

1451
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 3: many sex scenes and how sexual the book was. I

1452
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: also think that because something happened between them, you agreat, did.

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: You read the text?

1454
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 3: You read them?

1455
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeh, because I would never text another guy with this,

1456
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: like these little hints and these little like you know,

1457
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: I get a little saucy, like it's like this this

1458
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: like I think she's crossing a line. Yeah, I think

1459
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: he was also crossing a line in some capacity as

1460
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: a married man and talking to him. But if you

1461
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: read his thing, like even she was saying all this

1462
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: shit to him and he was like, yeah, like my

1463
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: kids just left for a couple of days and my

1464
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: wife just left. Oh Like, I don't know, he was

1465
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: trying to like get around it in some of the things.

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: It's just so there's also another component of this is

1467
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: there is another book in this series, but it's a

1468
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: prequel that he currently has the rights too. So I

1469
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 3: don't know if this is her way of trying to

1470
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: obtain the rights to the next movie so she could

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: keep working on it. I don't. I actually think it's

1472
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: supposed to be her when she's younger, So I don't

1473
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 3: even know if she'd be good.

1474
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: Is it good? I don't particularly care about it.

1475
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't particularly like this author, but people that really

1476
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: love this book said the movie was very good. So

1477
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: I can't speak on it because I don't particularly like

1478
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: how that author writes. But the people that do really

1479
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: like that book really like the movie, which I will

1480
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 3: say should be a compliment because big readers that read

1481
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: books of this level are usually extremely critical of the

1482
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: movies that come out.

1483
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: He's suing her for for slander.

1484
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 3: He's suing her and the New York Times. He said,

1485
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: I believe defamation, which we had to talk about this yesterday,

1486
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: Like you could sue somebody for defamation. Defamation cases are

1487
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: really hard to prove. You have to prove you've had

1488
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: monetary loss or some type of loss. You can't just

1489
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: be like that person said bad things about me and

1490
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 3: then you get money, Like you have to prove your

1491
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 3: life has been affected by it.

1492
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: In the dream and make him go away and cancel him.

1493
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: Is what's happening?

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01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: He has lost?

1495
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, like she's got more. You know, her dragons

1496
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: are more powerful than his.

1497
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: She said that, like, yeah, I think they're both kind

1498
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 3: of losers and like the text are cringey. I've heard

1499
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: that her private text messages with Ryan Reynolds are getting subpoenaed.

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: And let me tell you how fast.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 2: Side tittle loss because I'm sure anybody that ever talks

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: so their significant other has said, you know, highs and

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: lows of every aspect of their life.

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: So I would never want that ever. No, well, I mean,

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: just she's really asking for it. They better just I don't.

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I actually want him to be

1507
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 1: strong and be like, no, you know what, release those

1508
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: Let's like, I don't need the money, Let's release it

1509
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: and show everyone how you guys really are. Because they

1510
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: had no problem trying to destroy him. Why should he

1511
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: be cordial right now?

1512
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's kind of weird that he's

1513
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 3: putting all this stuff out and she's not responding to

1514
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 3: it at all. And I think some of her supporters

1515
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 3: are like, she's just stronger than him, and I'm like,

1516
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 3: she has supporters, really, No, this is this is truly

1517
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 3: a Karen Reid situation. Like your team Blake or your

1518
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 3: team Justin, you cannot be in the middle, and fuck

1519
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,799
Speaker 3: you if you're not on my lip I've.

1520
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: Never seen a post that has anybody supporting her. I mean,

1521
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people supporting I mean, and that

1522
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: could be like an algorithm thing that I get fed

1523
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: everyone that you know that is uh, the other side.

1524
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: But I actually want to read both sides of every issue,

1525
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: right because I want to I want to be able

1526
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: to form my own opinion. But I did just go

1527
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 1: on that website and read the text messages for myself,

1528
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:24,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, if I was sending text messages

1529
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: like that and Gabe bread them, he would not be

1530
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: happy that I was sending those to another man that

1531
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: I was fucking in a movie by the way, Like

1532
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: they're sex scenes, Like you're pretty intense in that movie

1533
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: I've heard, so yeah, It's which I always think is

1534
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: awkward anyway as an actor, Like I know you're acting

1535
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: and stuff, but when you're like rubbing up against a

1536
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: hawk girl, like you're gonna get excite, Like I'm sorry,

1537
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: you're playing it like It's just you can't turn that

1538
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: off all the time, right. That's why so many people

1539
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: that are in movies and stuff together end up together

1540
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: because they're making out and stuff and whatever. I just

1541
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: there's something there that he's jealous or there's something with

1542
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: the marriage. I'm telling you, well, I'm gonna be a

1543
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: genius when this comes out.

1544
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 3: Well, you're not the only person that thinks that everybody

1545
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: thinks that I'm I'm a little you know. Last week

1546
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 3: I was getting over it. I was like, I don't

1547
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: care anymore. Every podcast I listened to covers it. And

1548
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 3: now that the website came out, which should just be like, fuck, Blake.

1549
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: What are all the podcasts that you're listening to? Saying

1550
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't listen to podcasts. I think, like,

1551
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't really listen to that many podcasts, but I

1552
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: don't think they're covering it much.

1553
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, at first, it seemed like everybody was on her

1554
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 3: side because of this sexual harassment stuff and him being

1555
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 3: like this cringey male feminist and all this shit. But

1556
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: now I think that he's coming to maleist. That's what

1557
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 3: his podcast was about, being a male femine.

1558
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even really know who these people are,

1559
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: and I don't care.

1560
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 3: I've really never heard of him before this happens, so

1561
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: I just want to say that.

1562
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: But I think everyhole thing is fake, just for like

1563
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: a publicity stimp for the movie.

1564
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 3: No, I really don't, because the movie did really well

1565
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: before any of this came out. Oh so, I think

1566
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: everybody was initially on her side because of the sexual

1567
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 3: harassment claims and like, you don't want to be that

1568
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 3: person that's telling somebody what their experience was like. But

1569
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 3: now that he has all these receipts of everything and

1570
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 3: every single claim she's had and having the other side

1571
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: of it, now, I think that people are swaying to

1572
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: his side because it's it's undeniable, you're looking at exact evidence,

1573
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: and if this goes to trial, which it's scheduled for

1574
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 3: in March of twenty twenty six, I think it's going

1575
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 3: to be just as entertaining.

1576
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: Six that's next year. I think he tied to Discovery. Yeah,

1577
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: I know.

1578
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 3: I think this will be on the same level of

1579
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 3: the Gwyneth Paltrows the excited one exactly. And I hope

1580
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: it's like TV ridiculous thing. Yeah. I can't wait, but

1581
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 3: that's our thoughts. Can't wait to get some nasty grams

1582
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 3: from about that, but ugh whatever. If you guys have

1583
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: a story for us, please submit it to stories at

1584
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 3: motherdosdeath dot com and we will see you later in

1585
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: the week. Say ya.

1586
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,120
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1587
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

1588
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

1589
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,760
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1590
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,479
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1591
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:43,759
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1592
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1594
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1595
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,280
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