1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Wereganda Sticks is buckeybrook Tire with Lance Z and I 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: can't wait to talk about man Lance, because it's the 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: end of night two. We complete a rounds two and 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: three of the draft, a bunch of surprises, a bunch 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: of teams that we're talking about winners and losers and 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: all of that. But before we get to that, Lance 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: overall thought second out of draft, what stands out comes 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: to mind? 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think figuring out where Will Levison and 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker would go was important because once you get 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: past those two, I think most people think you're not 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: going to find a potential starter once you're once you're 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: done with those two. So that was very very important. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: I thought. 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Watching I was interested to see what the Rams would do. 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: Rams are a team that you know, very notably has 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: gotten rid of a lot of picks over the years 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: trying to go for it, and they were successful. But 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: what would the Rams do? Would they be able to 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: get a tight end at some point? How the Green 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Bay Packers address help being their new quarterback Jordan Love, 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: How would my team, the Houston Texans build that was 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: something I was really interested in. So, you know, every 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: year guys slide and guys feel like they're quote unquote reaches. 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: But you know, every draft, I'm reminded that everyone's draft 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: board is substantially different. Not necessarily, but many times it 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: can be. So a player that one team thinks is 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: a sixth, fifth or sixth rounder, another team hasn't a third. 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 3: That's just how it works. 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: It is that it works. And it's funny because you 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: talk about this draft, all of the interests obviously on 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 4: our side, because we always talk about quarterbacks, no matter 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: how good they are, we want to make sure that 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 4: they are the marquee position. We give them their due. 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: And so let's talk about will Levis. Let's talk about 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans trade up. They give up a couple 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: of picks to go up to thirty three in a draft, 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: will Lewis will Levis to I guess, either back up 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill, compete with Malik Willis to be the future 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: starter of the team. What do you think first thing 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: that came to mind when you saw the Titans straight 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 4: up and snag. 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: Will I The first thing I thought of was, well, 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: when they first traded up. 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I wondered if it was for Levis or for a cornerback, 47 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: and then when it was announced as Levis, the first 48 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: thing I thought is that, Okay, when Tannehill's gone, this 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: is going to be Levis versus Willis. 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: Made the best man win. I'm not ready to give 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: up on Malik Willis. 52 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone knew Malik Willis really didn't shouldn't have 53 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: been playing last year. He had to, and that's the 54 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: way it goes when there's injuries. But Malik Willis needed 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: a year, He needed a year to acclimate himself. So 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to just give up on Malik Willis 57 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: as an NFL potential NFL quarterback. I think you have 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: he and and you know, will Levis fight it out 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: and then you figure it out from there. But I 60 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: was a little interested, But I mean I was a 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: little intrigued by that selection, but not really because you know, 62 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: they weren't going to take him in the first round. 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: But when they got their shot in the second, they 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: took their shot. And Tannehill's not the quarterback of the future, 65 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: So I just thought they're setting it up for a 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: good old fashioned, you know, winner take off quarterback battle. 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four. 68 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: The preseason is gonna be fascinating to me because in 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: the preseason you don't play your starters early, and so 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: we'll have a chance to see will Levis going back 71 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: to back with Malik Willis. And as bad as Malik 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: Willis might have been for the Titans last year, he 73 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 4: has a year pro experience under his belt. And as 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: fast as it was for Milik Willis, it would be 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: that fast even faster for will Levice. And so we'll 76 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: get a chance to see all of their flaws in 77 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: real time. The decision making for both guys, the lack 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: of accuracy for both guys, the athleticism which should not 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: Inlik Willis's favor. It'd be fascinating to watch this kind 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 4: of play out in front of us. And if I'm 81 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: Ryan Tannehill, I'm certainly not worried about either of these 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: quarterbacks taking my job. No, it'd be interesting. It'd be 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: funny to watch him with his hat, watching these guys 84 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: do it out, because that that QB two competition between 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: those two guys, it's gonna be a fascinating one to watch. 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and now let's just say a miss. 87 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Just play a hypothetical here, Let's say Tennessee, you know, 88 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: the oil the Texans get better, and the Colts get better, 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: and the obviously the you know, the Jaguars continue their sense. 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: What if all of a sudden, Tennessee's that team that 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: just in Tannehill gets hurt and it doesn't look good 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. 93 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: They win three or four games. 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: What happens in when you're potentially in the in the 95 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: running for one of the top two quarterbacks next year, 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: and you got a quarterback you drafted in the third, 97 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: then a quarterback you drafted in the second. I guess 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: you go third straight year where you're drafting a quarterback. 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to get it right, so you 100 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: can't worry about that in that hypothetical situation. But I 101 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting to see which teams would pass 102 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: on Will Levis because they wanted they would rather take 103 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: their chances next year than deal with Levis or Hindon 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Hooker this year. 105 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 106 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: I mean, and this is one of the things like 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: when it comes to the quarterbacks by like, guys want 108 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 4: to take a quarterback. You always want to take a quarterback. 109 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: See what you got. I'm surprised they moved up to 110 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: get him, but there was a lot of conversation about 111 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: him and that stuff, and so it makes sense. Look 112 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I think the league 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: got it right in terms of where will Levis was drafted. 114 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: Now it's on Will Levis to prove himself right and 115 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 4: us wrong by playing and playing like a Josh Allen 116 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: type player and showing that he can do more than 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: just kind of run around and make some occasional plays 118 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: when everything he's right around. 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, Cynthia Freeland is a big I did the 120 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Day two with her and Mike Yam on the the 121 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: NFL's an NFL dot Com slash NFL channel, and she's 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: a Lions fan. And when they took Kennon Hooker, she 123 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: was not happy. And I thought she would be happy 124 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: because to me, you know, she wanted another player who 125 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: could help the Lions. But to me, this was I 126 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: thought the this's a really interesting pick. I kind of 127 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: like this pick for Detroit. I mocked him last night 128 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: when I had to do my second third round mock. 129 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: I put Levis to the Lions because, frankly, with one 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: year to go on his contract, I'm not really interested 131 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: in giving Jared Goff. The going rate for his level quarterback, 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: it's going to cost you what thirty five you know, 133 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty eight million for Jared. 134 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: Goff, possibly even more. I don't know. 135 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I just I think I would rather draft a potential replacement, 136 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: see how that goes this year, and then maybe switch 137 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: it over to Hendon Hooker. 138 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: I kind of like this pick. 139 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: In the third round, worst case scenario, you got a 140 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. In the third best case scenario, he develops 141 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and you may have a rookie contract starter at quarterback 142 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: that allows you to keep building the rest of the 143 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: lineup any pieces that you don't have in your roster. 144 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you attack it in free agency. So I kind 145 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: of like. 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: That, Yes, six, Yeah, it's a third round pick. It 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: doesn't cost you anything. I mean his peanuts. I mean, 148 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: like some third rounders don't even make teams in year two. 149 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 4: And so with Hinn and Hooker, what you're doing. You're 150 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: drafting him as a guy that you're hoping to be 151 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: a starter, but there's no pressure to put him on 152 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: the field. He has an opportunity to sit and learn 153 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: behind Jery Goff. He doesn't even strike Jered Goff as 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: legitimate competition because he's a third round pick. To me, 155 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: it's a perfect scenario for Hendon Hooker to learned the game. 156 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: If you talk about their games similarities between his game 157 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: and Jared Goff's game, He's not necessarily going to run 158 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 4: around and do it, and so the offense doesn't have 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: to change for either one of those guys. I think 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: the bigger thing for Hndon Hooker he comes off the 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: board where I think the risk reward factor is ideal. 162 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: First round was too high, too much money tied into 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: someone twenty five years old, acl injury. Third round though, 164 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: I mean the money is nice. I mean you just 165 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: talked about just being able to have a nice developmental prospect, 166 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: no pressure. He has to prove that he can be 167 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: maybe beyond a QB too, but that's fine, you put 168 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: that on him. So to me, it worked out. And 169 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: there was a lot of flak throwing at the Lions 170 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: for their draft because they went off the grid drafts 171 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: of Jamar Gibbs, come back and get Jack Campbell, but 172 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: then they followed up with Campbell's teammate Sam Laporta, and 173 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: then they get Brian Branch and so no matter if 174 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: you don't like what they did to order, you definitely 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: can't knock the picks. Those picks for those guys before 176 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: Hooker all solid players, all guys that could be starters 177 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: and should be immediate contributors. To me, I feel like 178 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 4: Detroit got it right and him the Hooker was just 179 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: kind of like the chair on top of the Sunday. 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: And they got a big guy too. And Broderick Martin. 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: They really wanted a big in the middle, and so 182 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: they just went up and got him in the third. 183 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: They're not messing around sometimes. One of the things that 184 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: we saw was teams who really wanted their players, they 185 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: just went and got them. They're not messing around at 186 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: the end of the third. They don't want to get 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: him stolen. If you like a guy, if another team 188 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: has him in a fifth, like Broderick Martin, some teams 189 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: thought he would go into fifth. The Lion said, this 190 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: is what we need, so we're gonna go get him 191 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: in the third. We're worried about building what we need 192 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: on our roster. I'll tell you something that kind of 193 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: bothered me a little bit. As somebody who follows the Texans. 194 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Nick Casario is a serial pick trader. He trades up 195 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: with his picks like he does not use them. So 196 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: if Bill Belichick used to always trade back and accumulate picks, 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, who worked under Bill Belichick, is the exact opposite. 198 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: He just gives he packages picks and moves up two spots, 199 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: three spots to make sure he gets what he wants. 200 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: So he really doesn't really value additional picks. I think 201 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: he looks at it as getting Okay, I want to 202 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: get five guys that I really want, and you know, 203 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: and every year he'll go into the draft saying we 204 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: want to get these five guys, maybe six guys. But 205 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: he had all these draft picks and he just used 206 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: them as additional capital just to push into spots that 207 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: he wanted, in some cases just three spots early just 208 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to get a center, which I thought was puzzling because 209 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: he did. 210 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: He's doing it so often, that's nuts, Bucky. 211 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: Is that something you usually see where there's guys who 212 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: are always using extra picks to trade up. 213 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: Nah? But you know, I think this new wave, this 214 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: new generation of general managers and far more aggressive than 215 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: their predecessors. You know, they go after the guys they want. 216 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: They value the players more so than the picks. And 217 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: that's what you're seeing. Meanwhile, you look at Trim Balky, 218 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: he's over there hoarding picks. They have ten picks on 219 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: Day three team draft, you know. And so that's just 220 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: the difference between old school and new school. New school 221 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: is putting it into players. Old school is making sure 222 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: they have all the lottery tickets hoping that they can 223 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: and increase their odds of landing the blue chit player. 224 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: But let me go back to the quarterbacks right quick, 225 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: because you've heard our thoughts on these quarterbacks. Let's get 226 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: DJ's thought on Will Levis. 227 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: And no doubt excited for him. Big arm, very athletic, 228 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: was hurt in twenty twenty two. You go back to 229 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: twenty one, you can see him healthy. He was moving 230 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: around a lot better. The arm is a big power arm, 231 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: not only to drive the football, but those deep shots 232 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 5: down the field for an offense in Tennessee that needs 233 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 5: to be more explosive, tight NFL window throws. He shows 234 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: the ability to do that off platform has been good 235 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: and bad for him. You see some throws like this, 236 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: other times it will impact his accuracy. The toughness you 237 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: cannot question, not only playing with injuries, but the ability 238 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: to hang in there and take shots and the athleticism. Watch, 239 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: you just show me a little hurdle here. Will get 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 5: out in space against your rival Louisville and show you 241 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: what you can do as an athlete. So Will Levis, 242 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 5: I know he's got to be a little disappointed. But 243 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 5: the good news is they're able to get Peter Skorotski 244 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: with their first pick, so he's going to play behind 245 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 5: a little better offensive line. The way this thing shook out. 246 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a sad war room? Every war 247 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: room's happy. 248 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Have you noticed that everyone got the pick they wanted 249 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: at all times? 250 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, chess Buffin being super excited. Detroit was super 251 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: excited about their pick. Man, my man, Brad Holmes yelling 252 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: and screaming after they made every pick. It seemed like 253 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: that's where was funny. I wondered what his reaction was, 254 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: you know, privately, when they got Hendon Hooker. But let's 255 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: go to Hndon Hooker's reaction in terms of what DJ 256 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 4: thought about him. 257 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: And there was a lot of discussion about them going 258 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 5: running back linebacker in the first round. Well, they turn 259 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: around and get the most important position here in the 260 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 5: third round with a ton of value with Hennon Hooker 261 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 5: at this point in time. The offense he played and 262 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: you guys touched on it's that old Baylor system. They're 263 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 5: gonna spread you from sideline to sideline. It creates a 264 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 5: lot of space. You get a lot of vertical shots, 265 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 5: particularly from the slot with Jalen Hyatt this year. The accuracy, 266 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 5: the ball placement is pristine. It's a lot of catch 267 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: rock flow in the in the pocket. You don't see 268 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 5: him have to move around too much. You get glimpses 269 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: like this though, of the athleticism to escape and make 270 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: some things happen. Some design quarterback runs. You can sprinkle 271 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: that and you're not going to want to major in it. 272 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: But there were three questions about him, and while he's 273 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 5: here in the third round, it was age, it was injury, 274 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: and it was the offense. And the teams that met 275 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 5: with them said, we have no concerns about his ability 276 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: to transition to an NFL offense. The injury is going 277 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: to be fine. 278 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: In the age, it is what it is, you. 279 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 4: Know, I mean, do you have like two really good breakdowns. 280 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: DJ obviously did a great job on the draft covers, 281 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: breaking those guys down kind of going over to xotape 282 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: while sharing his thoughts on both of those guys. I 283 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: think the other thing that you learned in the draft 284 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: is everyone gets excited at the top of the second round. 285 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: A lot of interest in who's going to move up, 286 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: who's going to move up in the first ten spots, 287 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: hope what picks are coming off the board. And so 288 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: we saw the Pittsburgh Steelers take one of their guys, 289 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: Joey Porter Junior, the son of Joey Porter aka Paz, 290 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: who had a lot of success for them. What was 291 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: your thought on Joey Porter Junior going to the Pittsburgh Siller. 292 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was perfect. I mean I had him 293 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: at a couple moncks. I think I put him at seventeen. 294 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: I thought that he made sense maybe in the first round, 295 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: and then when they had the first pick, that was 296 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: an easy one for me to mock. I have to 297 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: do a second and third round mack for NFL dot 298 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Com after the first round's over, and for me, that 299 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: was the first that took zero seconds for me to 300 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: figure out. 301 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: I Michael Kay Porter Boom, they need corner. He fits 302 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: the mold. 303 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I thought he could go there with pick number seventeen 304 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: before they traded up for Broderick Jones. 305 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: So I like that. I thought it was a good 306 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: pick for them. 307 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: You know. So let's get DJ's reaction to Joey Porter 308 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: going to the Stowers. 309 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 5: And they love the family connections. When you think about 310 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: this Pittsburgh Steelers group, the Hayward family, the Watt family, 311 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 5: you think about the Porter family, the length is rare. 312 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 5: You're talking about extremely long arms, and he can run 313 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 5: and carry these vertical routes all day long. You see 314 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: the physicality to get up there and finish tackles out 315 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 5: in space. He plays the game very aggressively for a 316 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 5: big corner. You love to see that. Here he is 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: is a blitzer, the burst to close and finish, a 318 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: lot of energy, a lot of excitement in his play. 319 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: To me, guys, when when you think about the AFC, 320 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: and we talked about Patrick Mahomes a lot last year, 321 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: there's so many quarterbacks in the AFC. You have to 322 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: work through having pass rushers, having corners. You can't have 323 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 5: too many, can't. 324 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: Then, So it made yeah, it made sense for the 325 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steels to go and get Joey Porter Junior to 326 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: take him there able to get a guy who's the 327 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: first round talent at the top of the second round, 328 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: so it works with him. Uh, what are your thoughts? 329 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: Did you like Joey Porter the player and how do 330 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: you like fit? 331 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, for me, Joey Porter is the player. 332 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: I liked him as long as he's in pressed and 333 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: as long as he's up in someone's pocket from the 334 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: snap to the whistle. Once you have him backed off 335 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: a little bit, once he has to try to match 336 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: routes and you know, be a mirror and match type 337 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: gay complex routes are gonna lose him. He's not great 338 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: in terms of his plant and drive quickness. I think 339 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: what he is is he beat you up at the 340 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: at the snap and then he just runs with you. 341 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: And that's what he's got to play. He's got to 342 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: play in that kind of scheme. And if you have 343 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: him in that scheme, he suffocates catchpase down the field. 344 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: So I think he has to play in a very 345 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: specific scheme, which is one of the reasons that maybe 346 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: he felt a little bit. I can't tell you why 347 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Michael Mahyer fell, other than maybe why tight ends just 348 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: aren't sexy to people, right now, Bucky. Everyone loves the 349 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: pass catching tight end. Everyone wants the next Travis Kelsey, 350 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: which you're not going to find the next Travis Kelsey 351 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: very easily. So everyone loves the pass catching tight end. 352 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: And then a why like Michael Mayer, who, let's be honest, 353 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: he's not sexy. There's nothing that he does it really 354 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: wows you on tape, but he's rock solid. Were you 355 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: surprised that we only had one? We know it's a 356 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: very deep tight end draft right nine total taken eight 357 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: in the second day between rounds two and three. How 358 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: surprised were you that Michael Mayer fell out of the 359 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: first round? 360 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: A little surprised just because, I mean, you got so 361 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: comfortable putting him in the first round. You saw the 362 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: big body tight end from Notre Dame. You can do 363 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: a little bit of everything. You can block on the ads, 364 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: can catch them all over the middlefield, big red zone weapon, 365 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: all those things. You just thought that someone at the 366 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: bottom of the first round would take him. I actually 367 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: think though he fell to a great spot for him though, 368 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: with the Las Vegas Raiders. You think about Josh McDaniels 369 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: history in New England, what they used to do with 370 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 4: multiple tight ends. You now have an opportunity to put 371 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: him in a feature position in an offense that has 372 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: DeVante Adams on the outside. I just like it. I 373 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: like to fit, I like to pick. It's a nice 374 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: It's rare that you get the right player to go 375 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 4: to the right team. But to me, the Notre Dame 376 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 4: tight end is a perfect fit for the Severn block. 377 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: Let's see what Daniel Jeremiah NFL Draft Dan Let's thought 378 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 1: about Michael Meyer going, Michael Mayer going to the Raiders. 379 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, the tight end run has begun. This is the 380 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: best tight end group we've seen in a decade. Look 381 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 5: at the comp on the bottom there. Mark Andrews as 382 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: a big, rangy, excellent pass receiving tight end who also 383 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: can get involved in the run game. The big body 384 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 5: target that shows up in the red zone. And Scott 385 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: and we use the phrase combat catches. He has more 386 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 5: than any tight end in this draft class. Look at him, 387 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: just peel the ball off the back of the defender 388 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: and then that subtlety as a route runner. You see 389 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 5: it here is ability to set up a safety there 390 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 5: that we're going to see from cal drafted at some 391 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: point in time over the next day dependable blocker. He's 392 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 5: not going to maul you, but he is an outstanding 393 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: leverage blocker. He's going to stay attached and he understands 394 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 5: how to work up to the second level as well. 395 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 5: This is a complete tight end. And when we look 396 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 5: at next gen stats powered by AWS, you see the 397 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: production score where. 398 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: He is just below Dalton Kin Kate. 399 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 5: I thought he was the second best tight end in 400 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 5: the draft. 401 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. 402 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: And I like the point that you made about going 403 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels who has that history. Now you know 404 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers My top tight end on the board, 405 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: and it's really a projection based on traits and based 406 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: on what I saw on tape and limited tape was 407 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave. A big fan of Luke Musgrave of what 408 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: he could become. He's certainly not going to be the 409 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: top tight end in terms of what his production was 410 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: because he only played two games this year and he 411 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: was hurt. 412 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: He ended up going to the Green Bay Packers. 413 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: It is interesting the Packers end up coming away with 414 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the wide receiver and Jaden Reid and two tight ends 415 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: and Luke Musgrave and Tucker Craft. The year that Aaron 416 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers leaves. But I also think, you know, it's kind 417 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: of an homage to Rogers, where you say, hey, we 418 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: know Aaron can get it done with lesser talent, can 419 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: elevate that with Jordan Love. Now they're starting to put 420 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: some pieces around him because they realize they're going to 421 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: have to surround him. And this is a guy bucky 422 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: in Luke Musgrave, who's one of my favorites because his 423 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: great size, he's very fast, he can threaten all three 424 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: levels of the field. I think his best football is 425 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: ahead of him. He gains momentum and energy out of 426 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: his breaks and out of his turns and stems, and 427 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: so I think he's going to be a separator on 428 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: the next level. And I like the fact that he 429 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: played at Oregon State, where they expect you in that 430 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: out side zone scheme to get after it as a blocker. 431 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: You've got to put some effort into it as a blocker, 432 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: and the backside cutoffs and the playside trying to get 433 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: the edge shield. So Luke Musgrave was a guy that 434 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: personally I liked him. I liked the trades, I liked 435 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the potential there. 436 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 4: So it's not on when Luke Musgrave that they were 437 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: able to get as the other tight end from South 438 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: Dakota State. It really kind of made it pop for 439 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: me when you think about this team and how they 440 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: want to play with Jordan Love, Tucker Kraft coming over 441 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 4: from South Dakota State, giving them another big body over 442 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: the middle of the field, allowing them to get back 443 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: to some old school stuff twelve personnel running the football. 444 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: To me, I always felt like this is not the 445 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: biggest test for Brian Goodickus, but this is a huge 446 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: test for Matt Leafloor when you remove a four time 447 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: MVP at quarterback, when now the coach has to coach, 448 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: and so now we're beginning to get the insight on 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: how he's going to make up for the loss of 450 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: number twelve. And I think you can already see it. 451 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: Big tight ends, multiple tight ends that's heavy dose are 452 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: running game with AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones, and then 453 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna set up Jordan Love success in other ways. 454 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: And so I liked the musk Grave pick, and I 455 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: really love to tuk a Kraft pick because he's a 456 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 4: guy that I thought was going to be someone that 457 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: even went higher. He goes in the third round. But 458 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: I thought, he's like a look, I think he's a 459 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 4: Day one starter wherever he goes. So now having those 460 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: two guys kind of duke it out, I like it. 461 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: I like the way the Packers were able to put 462 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: that together. 463 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Daniel Jeremiah who commented on the number 464 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: forty two pick of the draft. In round two, the 465 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers take Luke Musgrave out of Oregon State. 466 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 5: This is the tight end run again. We talked about 467 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: the depth this dude. If he had been healthy, he 468 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: would have been long gone by now. Only two games 469 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: this year reminded me of Greg Olsen because of that 470 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 5: size frame and no ability to really stretch the scene 471 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 5: down the field. Consistency catching the football. He can get 472 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 5: the ball outside of his frame. Some of these guys 473 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 5: they try and corral the ball with their body. He 474 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: is a hands catcher. After the catch, you're going to 475 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: see the speed that he has. It can really really 476 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: go once he gets out there in the open field. 477 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 3: He ran a four to six to one. 478 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 5: There was some thought he might even run in the 479 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: four fours and a willing blocker getting the way wall 480 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 5: you off blocker. He's satisfactory in that level. But you're 481 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: drafting him for what he's going to do in the 482 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: past game, and he's going to survive with what he 483 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: does here in the run game. 484 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean nothing for nothing. 485 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: I think he's being a little disrespectful about that man's 486 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: run blocking. 487 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna let you know right now, but I 488 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 3: think that's a little a little disrespectful. You're a little 489 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: out of line, ne DJ. 490 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 4: Shoot before we go to a break. Anything else that 491 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: stood out to you about round two or round three? 492 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: No, I would say some of the guys dropping. 493 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: I thought, uh, Darnell Washington dropping was a surprise, but 494 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: I know that there. I was told there may be 495 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: a medical issue there so that he could drop, and 496 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that's probably one of the reasons Killey Ringo 497 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't even go. And I'm not aware of any issues 498 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: for Killey Ringo not to go at all in a 499 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: round as a big, fast cornerback with play strength. That 500 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: was surprising to me. And I didn't hear anything there 501 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: where I expected him to fall. So Kiley Ringo falling 502 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: out of day one and day two and into day 503 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: three was a big surprise for me. 504 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 4: It is a big surprise just because man, you talked 505 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: about a lance. I thought he was an ideal a height, weight, 506 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: speed prospect. Not necessarily in love with his game in 507 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: terms of how he covered in those things, but I 508 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: thought those traits and attributes would be enough to get 509 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: him picked over the first two days. So now he'll 510 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: come into the league day three prospect, probably one of 511 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: the first guys to go in the fourth round. But 512 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 4: it's a different situation when you come in as a 513 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: fourth round pick, you having to earn your keep to 514 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 4: make sure that you're on the squad. It'd be a 515 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 4: different huts of form, but it should be one that 516 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: he should be able to make the transition and find 517 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 4: a way to make a mark on the league. Let's 518 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 4: take a break. We'll be back in a couple of minutes. 519 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: We'll hit on a couple of Day two winners right 520 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: up to this break. All right, Lands, we're back, and 521 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about some of these winners. We 522 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: won't talk about the losers. We'll talk about the winners. 523 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: Which drafts do you really like so far? 524 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I like Seattle. I like what they've done. 525 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: I love that they added Derek Hall, who's really a 526 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: bull rush and bully off the edge. Very physical kind 527 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: of fits the John Schneider mold of you know, he 528 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: likes these type of guys who are very, very physical 529 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: at the point of attack. He's got a lot of 530 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: to me. I think he's got some Frank Clark elements 531 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: to his game in terms of how he approaches the 532 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: pass rush. So I like that what they did there 533 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: in round two. I like the fact that they added 534 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Zach Sharboney, who is kind of a one two punch. 535 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: Right. 536 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: You got Kenneth Walker, now you add sharbon Ay, and 537 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: I think more and more teams are looking at at 538 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: this with you know, the Titans also added Taiji Spears 539 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: to go with Derrick Henry at least for now. Derek 540 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: Henry's there right now. I like adding Sharbonay here. I 541 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: know some people may say, why would you have two 542 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: running backs? That does you've You've already got a running back. 543 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: Man. 544 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: The league is not about one running back anymore. It's 545 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: about more than one running back. It's about being able 546 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: to pound on teams with the with the freshness of 547 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: a running back there in the third and fourth quarter 548 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: to set the game off. And I think that's I think, 549 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: and they both fit the outside zone schemes. I like 550 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: that pick of Sharbonay as well. Of course I like 551 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: what they did in the first round, but I thought 552 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: they did a nice job on day two of continuing 553 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: to add players who are going to be factors early on, 554 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: and they're you know, on the field. 555 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: And so the thing about the Seattle Seahawks is this 556 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: is a team that is true to their identity. The 557 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 4: fact that they were not only able to get JSN 558 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: yesterday to go with you know, Tyler Lockett and DK 559 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: Metcalf blending out. We talked about Derek Hall that up 560 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: up the field speed rusher, but that s Charboney giving 561 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: them another physical go back to compliment Kenneth Walker Junior. 562 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 4: And so Pete Carroll is not shy about letting you 563 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: know his intentions. They're still gonna run the ball, They're 564 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 4: gonna get after you, they're gonna play great defense, They're 565 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: gonna still try and win the game in an old 566 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: school fashion, and everything that they do is really about 567 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: lining up and doing those things we've talked about, like 568 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers and how they certainly have won today 569 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: when you think about the guys they brought in initially 570 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: bringing in Progerick Jones, and then you talk about Joey 571 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: Porter Junior. You alluded to Darnell Washington, but how about 572 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: Keanu Benton coming in from Wisconsin giving them another big, 573 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 4: physical guy that you're throw into rotation at the point 574 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: of attack, Mike Tomland. Those guys love to beat you up. 575 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: They'd like to play bully ball. And the only way 576 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 4: you can play bully ball you gotta have some bullies 577 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: at the point of attack. They have that. And you know, 578 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: we never really talked about the Steelers being a flashy 579 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: team when it comes to what they do on draft Day, 580 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: but they consistently tend to find a way to put 581 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: good players on their Because of that, this is a 582 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: team that is always in the conversation as a playoffs contender. 583 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: And I like that you point out the Pittsburgh Steelers 584 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: because they added to the physicality, you know, they by 585 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: by making sure they got Broderck Jones, who's a very 586 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: physical player. I think his best football is probably going 587 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: to be in a year to two years and he's 588 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: going to be a really impactful player, I think. 589 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: But you know, you mentioned Keanu Benton. 590 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: He's just one of the players as well who's the 591 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: other I know they got an offensive lineman, I'm gonna 592 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: find him here that I remember thinking this is a 593 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: really good pick up and it felt like a Pittsburgh 594 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: Steeler well jo Ashton, as you mentioned. But did they 595 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: have another offensive lineman or no, Okay, I'm thinking of Darnell, 596 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: who basically is like an offensive lineman. 597 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean what he allows you to do. 598 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Talking to the offensive line coach over there at Georgia, 599 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: he said, when they had Darnell down, you know, just 600 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: just aligned as a why right there on the line 601 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: of scrimmage down near the goal line. It was such 602 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: a blowout with him going against anybody across from him. 603 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: When defenses tried to reduce down that they were able 604 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: to just bludgeon the edge and just cave it wide open. 605 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: And that's a big advantage is having a big guy 606 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: who you know. I don't think it's crazy for teams 607 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: to even talk about, hey, could this guy gain twenty 608 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: five to thirty pounds have become an offensive tackle. I 609 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: think you just leave them at being a power of 610 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: power and you know tight end who who. 611 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Can also catch the football out in space. 612 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought the Steelers did a really nice 613 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: job of getting Steelers. I don't think it's always been 614 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: like that necessarily in the over the last ten years. 615 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: This felt like a really focused draft to me by 616 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers. 617 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, really focus, really stuck to their identity, continue to 618 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 4: kind of add guys that kind of fit their profile. 619 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: You know, I have to go back because I'm looking 620 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: through the names, and I'm looking at the Denver Broncos 621 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: and we've heard all the off season about the wide 622 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: receivers being on the trading bog. Jerry Judy, come and 623 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: get Courtland Sudden, maybe even get kJ Hammler. And then 624 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the bottom of second round. They take 625 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: Marvin Mims from Oklahoma. They didn't follow that pickup with 626 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: Drew Sanders from Arkansas, who looked surprisingly filed to the 627 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: third round. And then Riley Moss. What do you think 628 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: about the Broncos draft. 629 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm a big fan of Drew Sanders. 630 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: I think from what I heard, I think he rubbed 631 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: some maybe rubbed some teams the wrong way in interviews. 632 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I just it's hard for me to envision a guy 633 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: who had nine and a half sacks and thirteen and 634 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a half tackles for lost on a one hundred plus 635 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: tackles in his first year at inside linebacker, Like, how 636 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: does that kind of production go on to third and 637 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: then you add to that a guy who's athletic, who 638 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: has size, who's explosive. That doesn't really add up from 639 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: a football standpoint. So I like that. I think Riley Moss, 640 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: you and I can have the conversation. They were a 641 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: little uncomfortable, I think, wanting to bring up anything on 642 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: on the broadcast. I did, But Riley Moss is interesting. 643 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's just be honest. He's he's the 644 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: first white cornerback since Jason Seehorn. But he's he's a cornerback. Like, 645 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the talk that a lot of people have. 646 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: They probably didn't talk about it on the broadcast, but 647 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I talked to some teams and some defensive back coaches 648 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: who said, people are gonna want to move this kid 649 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: to safety. They're gonna see him and they're gonna say, oh, 650 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: he must be a safety transition. And every everybody to 651 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: a man said no. You could see it at the 652 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He's a legit cornerback and he's got talent. 653 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: He's a willing tackler. He can play some he can 654 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: play in a Cover three scheme, he can play a 655 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: Cover two scheme. 656 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: He can run. 657 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Riley Moss is a solid cornerback and I like that. 658 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: I like that pick for them, and I do like 659 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he has potential versatility because of how 660 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: tough he is as a tackler. 661 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: I love to pick. I saw him play a couple 662 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: of years ago in the Big Ten Championship game. Immediately 663 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: loved his technique and his business. Yeah. I mean he's 664 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: been banged up in those things, but he gets his 665 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: on the ball, plays game the right way, and you 666 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: alluded to it. Man, I think he has an opportunity 667 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: to do some of that Eric Wattell type stuff in 668 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: terms of moving around and being a guy. And I'm 669 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: not saying he has to go inside and be a 670 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: four time safety, but I think he has the versatility 671 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: to do a lot of different things athletically, and so 672 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: I love to pick for him going there. There's one 673 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 4: other team that I wanted to get to and wanted 674 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: to just get your opinion on, and I am trying 675 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: to figure out what did you think about the Philadelphia 676 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: Eagles and what they did today. We gave him a 677 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: lot of credit for getting Nolah Smith and Jalen Carter, 678 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 4: but they come back and in the third round they 679 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: got Sidney Brown to safety from Illinois. Thoughts on the player, 680 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: thoughts on the pit. 681 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: He's seeking missile. You put him near the line of 682 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: scrimmage and you just let him go hit things. I 683 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: don't love him when he has to play backwards and coverage, 684 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: but I like him a lot when you're letting them 685 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: play forward, run the alleys, support the run near the 686 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I think he gives them an energy 687 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: that they'll really like. On defense, they got guys who 688 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: could run. Now, Philadelphia said, okay, let's go get and 689 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: we'll start off with the first pick. Let's go get 690 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: Sidney Brown, who will run and hit. And then the 691 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: other one was Trent Simpson. 692 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: Right now, Simpson went to Baltimore. 693 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, he went to Baltimore. That's right. 694 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: Who was the other pick that they had And I'll pull. 695 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: This up here in a second. 696 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: But I got it Sidney Brown and it was Tyler Steen. 697 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 698 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Here's why I like Tyler Steen. I think he's going 699 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: to be a guard I think so. One thing you 700 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: can do is immediately have him compete as a swing 701 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: tackle if that's what you want. So he's got swing 702 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: tackle potential. He can bump inside down to guard, compete 703 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: at the left guard spot if you want to move 704 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens into or right guard. I should say, if 705 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: you want to move Cam Jurgens eventually the end of 706 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: center and Landon Landon Dickerson has one spot locked down. 707 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: I like the fact that Steen has. He has a 708 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: lot of. 709 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: Flexibility of where he can play along the offensive line. 710 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: There's a lot of value. 711 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: As you know, Bucky, A lot of teams don't when 712 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: they play road games. They don't they don't bring as 713 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: many offensive linemens. So you really need to have offensive 714 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: linemen that can play multiple positions. I think with Steen 715 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: you have a player who can probably play four positions 716 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: for you, both guard spots, both tackle spots. So I 717 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: like that from a I think Steen is a decent player. 718 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a good I think he's a very 719 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: good backup to low end starter in the league personally. 720 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: But I may be a little lower than some other 721 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: people because I know Jim Nagy from the Senior Bowl 722 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: really likes Tyler Steen a lot. 723 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, he does like him, but he likes all this 724 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: guy anyone who's like that, So I get it. So 725 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: I get it. Last team to me that kind of 726 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: showed up, But we never really talked about the Cincinnati Bengals. 727 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bingles are kind of always a team that 728 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: flies on the radar when it comes to how they 729 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: go their process. They took Miles Murphy in on Night 730 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: one round one. Then they come into DJ Turner and 731 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: Jordan Battle. You'll thought on both of those players. 732 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm a big DJ Turner fan. I thought he has 733 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: a I think he has early second round talent. He 734 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: has some of the sweetest mirror match footwork that I've 735 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: seen since Tradavius White, can really, you know, really match routes. 736 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: He has tremendous long speed. He's not the biggest cornerbacks. 737 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: So the problem you have is he plays in the 738 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: in the one seventies, So how is he going to 739 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: handle matching up with bigger players outside. Well, my answer 740 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: to that would be, I think he has the athletic 741 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: capability to play inside, and so I think one of 742 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: the things that the Bengals could be looking at is 743 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: playing DJ Turner as a nickel. 744 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: Now you don't love him necessarily in run sport. He's tough. 745 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: He'll I mean, he'll come up and try to hit you, 746 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: but he's not really built for that. But I do 747 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: like from a coverage standpoint the fact that he can 748 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: bump down inside with his makeup speed and play against 749 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: some of the faster slots. So I like to pick 750 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: a DJ Turner. 751 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm really in love with to pick a 752 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: Jordan Battle, big old box safety who's an enforce. It 753 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: makes you pay your taxes when you cross the middle 754 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: of the field, active against the run game. And to me, 755 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 4: we just see how the Cincinnati Bengals had been able 756 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: to build their roster up big school guys, played in 757 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: major stages, made big games. It's not gonna be too 758 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 4: big for him, and they found a way with Lou 759 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: and Aromo to put it together. I think this would 760 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 4: be another unit because they all defensive players. This would 761 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: be another unity he puts together. And we'll be talking 762 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: about this team some turn in the playoffs, like, man, 763 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: how are they getting it done? They're getting done because 764 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: they have a lot of blue collar players. 765 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose baits and add battle smart. It's just 766 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 3: smart football. 767 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: He's not There's nothing that's flashy, but he's usually in 768 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, and he helps you. 769 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 1: You know what I wrote up in my Skinner report 770 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: bucket is he helps you get to the next play, 771 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: Like he just does what he's supposed to do, onto 772 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: the next play, onto the next play, onto the next 773 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: play without giving up splashy, exposive plays because he missed 774 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: his tackles or he's not where he's supposed to be. 775 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: So there's something to be said for safeties. It's my 776 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: least favorite position to watckage when I'm scouting, But that's 777 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: just because safeties a lot of times what they're doing 778 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: is just making sure bad things don't happen. And it's 779 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: not always just interceptions and knocking, you know, knocking people's 780 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: helmets off. It's just like, are you where you're supposed 781 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: to be? Are you tackling in the open field? And 782 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: are you making sure that you've got a safety net 783 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: over the top. 784 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: And it's not sexy, but it's important. 785 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 4: It is important. But you know what else is important. 786 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 4: It's important for the lancy to get a little rest 787 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 4: because tomorrow is day three. You got all these random 788 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: names that you got to pull on the spot out 789 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 4: your head, so we're gonna let you go. Man I 790 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 4: appreciate you joining the podcast, give us some insights we 791 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: might have to bring you back. Like later we have 792 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: a big old recap talk about all this because it's 793 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 4: been crazy and it's gonna be crazier day three tomorrow. 794 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 4: So that's it. That's what man land cy. I'm Bucky Brooks. 795 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to the Movie six podcasts. H