1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. We're running a little late on 4 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: this one. Edit's my fault, you know. Shout out to 5 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: our super producer, mister Max Williams the top. 6 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: When have we ever hit a tent pole topic on time? 7 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: This is in classic Ridiculous History fashion that we're two 8 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: days late for said holiday. 9 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: I am proud of myself, so I'm going to toot 10 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: my own horn and talk about myself right now. Yet, 11 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: on February twenty ninth last year, we had an episode 12 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: about the leap year we did? Did I write a 13 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving grab bag esque episode? But I think that's about it. 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: I think one time we might have gotten lucky. But 15 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: look we did our was it Labor Day? Like either 16 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: two months before or two months after Labor Day? And 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is marvelous. 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: I love us. I don't know why we're letting on that. 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: It's not on purpose. 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: It's very oh, folks. That is Noel Brown recently returned 21 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: from Philadelphia. So Noel aka Young Cheese Steak Brown. 22 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, okak you sure you Young cheese steak is accurate. 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 2: I had a couple of those from what is Angelo's 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: and ish Caabibbeles, which are too you know, I think 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Angelo's is kind of hot right now. But a lot 26 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: of people know about Ishkabibbles. And that's the funnest named 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: place to get a sandwich in the history of sandwiches, 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: if you ask me. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: And we're accountabill of buddies, so I was. It is 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: a true story, Noel, I they called me, Ben what 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I was bugging you the whole time you were in 32 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: Philly and I just kept texting you on multiple threads 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: to ask for cheese steak pictures. 34 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 2: It's the only reason I had the second steak, Ben, 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: It's the only reason I went to Isshuabibbles. 36 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: It was just for you. 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: I only had about three bites and then I had 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: to throw away the rest because man, those things are 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: not meant to be consumed in their entirety by one 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: human person. That's a heart attack waiting to happen. 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: I don't know if Philly does it, man, I don't know. 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: I guess he's got to walk a lot, which I 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: did do. I had a great time. Thanks for mentioning it, 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: but yeah, no, cheese steaks are delightful, as are nonsensical 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: holidays that are designed to potentially hurt people's feelings or delights. 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Results vary, so we're running late on our April Fool's 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Day episode. That's what this is, and you and I 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: have talked about it in the past on and off air. 49 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it can be a mean and spirited holiday. 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: It certainly can be. 51 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: I have been the victim, not that big a deal, 52 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: but of some not so nice April Fools pranks. But 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's all in how you play it. If 54 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: you play it a little too straight about something a 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: little too serious, you know, things could go wrong. But 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: if it's something sort of like lighthearted and a little 57 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: bit absurdist, I'm all about that, right. 58 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Like, if, for instance, I gave I gave my dad 59 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: a mug that said World's Best Grandfather and then said 60 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: April Fools, that would be really extreme. 61 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but even that's on the lighter end of extreme. 62 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: If you ask me, I was punked quite successfully by 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: my kid is sixteen. I was playing a piece of 64 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: music that I've been working on when I was in Philadelphia, 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: and to me and goes you know what, Dad, I 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: gotta tell you, this isn't very good. 67 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: What I don't like it. It sounds like but I 68 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: believe is the term that they use. And then I 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: really my heart sunk. My heart sunk. 70 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: And then I very quickly saw the forlornness in my 71 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: eyes and very quickly responded with a quick April fool. 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Which I was wow, So that kids are mean, dude, 73 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: kids are being dude. That's an in depth example of 74 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: April fools, or those are two light examples from us. 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I think the worst one I got was ooh, it's 76 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: not even fit for the air. It was pretty extreme, 77 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: it was pretty mean. But if you want to learn 78 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: more about famous examples of April Fool's day, you can 79 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: check out our earlier episode on the epic spaghetti. 80 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: Trees prank, which I think is a perfect example of 81 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: a lighthearted, absurdist one. Because the BBC created this thing 82 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: to appear like a legitimate documentary about an absolutely Bezonker's topic, 83 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: and like they had like these old Italian nonas, like 84 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: harvesting spaghetti from the trees in the Italian countryside, and like, 85 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 2: let's say you do believe it, what's the worst outcome 86 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: there that you feel like a little bit of a 87 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: dumb dumb you know. Okay, not the end of the world, 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: but just different. No, it's certainly not. Another example that 89 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: really did ruffle some feathers and potentially cost some harm, 90 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: but would not have been considered an April fool's joke 91 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: is orson Wells War of the World's broadcast, where a 92 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: lot of people took that very very seriously. 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: And thought the aliens were coming, and they. 94 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Fled for shelter, called the police, you know, a repeatedly, 95 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: you know, clogged up the lines and all of that 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: good stuff, only for it to turn out to a 97 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: bit of very well produced radio play. 98 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Right and worth a listen. Still, both examples that you 99 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: just named there, Noel. As April first approached, we asked ourselves, 100 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: what is this holiday? Exactly? Where does it come from? 101 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: How did it spread across the globe? And I think 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: we were all startled to learn the answer is kind 103 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: of ridiculous. So before we get into this fool's errand. 104 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, which is the term. 105 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: That I've used plenty in my life, and I never 106 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: really thought about the origins of it, but it certainly 107 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: does date back to the early days of being an 108 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: April fool. 109 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: So okay, okay, Noel, can you kick it for all 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: of us historians in the crowd ridiculous variety. If you 111 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: had to explain to an alien what April Fool's Day is, 112 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: how would you explain it? 113 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: It is a day where it is acceptable to lie 114 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: to the people that you love for comedic effect. Holy smokes, 115 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: that is good, kind of dark though it starts, it's starting. 116 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: No, we're keeping it. We're keeping it man, because that 117 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: is poetry. It's a celebration of pranks and practical jokes. 118 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: In most countries today, it happens on the first day 119 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: of the month we call April. You run into any 120 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: number of jokes or in person practical like pranks, and 121 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: usually when someone is lying to someone that they love, 122 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: as you said at the end of the bit, the 123 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: prankster will yell April Fools at their big reveal. And 124 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: what I think we both found astonishing about this is 125 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: that multiple countries have their own variation. You could be 126 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: in April Fish. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go to it. Ah, yes, yeah, 127 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: put the definitive on that. Yeah. The the idea I 128 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: love that you're bringing up the French. The idea here 129 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: is that what I've just we love the French, They're great, 130 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: I do, I do so. Uh, perhaps this is a 131 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: reference to a young fish that is easily caught. We're 132 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: pulling some of this straight up from our friends at Britannica. Uh, 133 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: we did not know, or I did not know that 134 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: it is common for French kids to pin paper fish 135 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: on the backs of folks they're pranking, kind of like 136 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: how we would put a kick me sign, just. 137 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: Like a kick me sign exactly, or you know, a 138 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: pin the tail in the donkey situation, to quote Larry David, 139 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: which is. 140 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: A cruel and violent game. Why would you do it? 141 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: A pinata that he was talking about, But pin the 142 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: tail and a donkey similarly violent and a little bit cruel. 143 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't it? Maybe not? Well, how does that 144 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: game work? 145 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't you stick it on people and they spin around 146 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: or something and maybe before they hit that's true, But 147 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: I swear there's a variation of pin the tail. 148 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: All right, I'm here, I'm here. The youthful guy on 149 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: the show will jump in. It's closer to my childhood 150 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: than it's yours. So pin the tail and a donkey 151 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: it's there's like a donkey like painting type of thing 152 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: on a wall. You put a blindfold on, somebody, hand 153 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: them the pin and they have a general idea where 154 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: it is, but they go to see how close you 155 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: can get it to getually get in the tail on 156 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: the right spot. 157 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 4: You spin them around, don't you disorient them? Isn't the 158 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: idea of. 159 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: The house rules? That's house rules? 160 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, it's all kind of awful because the 161 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: only way you're doing this off of your memory trying 162 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: to figure out where it is. It gets fun around, 163 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: you're gonna go put it in somebody's arm. 164 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 165 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: But to your point, nol, I mean think about it 166 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: like we have like basically intentionally removed a donkey's tail, 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: and now we are trying to attach another one to it. 168 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: That is that's so twisted. I wonder twisted Max with 169 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: the facts I've ever heard. 170 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll do it. We'll do the sound cue, we'll 171 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: do the sound cue. 172 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: That seeking in the phone and he's fallen knowledge. It's 173 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 5: just for you right now here. 174 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: With the fact, I do wonder whether there has ever 175 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: been a like an earlier version where was an actual 176 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: tortured donkey, oh dear too Yeah, too dark, all right, 177 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: so let's go to Scotland. In Scotland, it's hunt the 178 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: glock or the golp goo w k. It's a symbol 179 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: of the fool. And then, you know, it's. 180 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: Sure very similar to what we might have over here 181 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: in like boy scout campouts, which is the old snipe hunt, 182 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: snipe hunt, the idea of you know, taking a nube 183 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: and sort of convincing them that it's a right of 184 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: passage to hunt this mythical beast and sending them out 185 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: after a thing that does not exist, which is very 186 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: much the fool's errand of it all, you know, or 187 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: very much a wild goose chase situation. 188 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Sure, a version of that occurs in modern in modern 189 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: production film and TV. Friends, you'll know this one of 190 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: the hazing rituals for like a new kid or a 191 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: pa in production a production assistant is to give them 192 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: a super obscure, official sounding name for a thing, a 193 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: piece of a and send them hunting for it. And 194 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: it's a closed spin. 195 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called like an M four thirty two or 196 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: some sort of like numerical kind of model number type thing. 197 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: And now I'm totally forgetting what it was because they 198 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: referred to them as that actually on on sets and 199 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 2: in film situations. Another one that's interesting too is in 200 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: construction sites. Gosh, I saw this on a TV show recently. 201 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: But they were sent a young newbie construction worker like 202 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: house framer looking for a like a window stretcher or 203 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: something like that, like some kind of like device that 204 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: is meant to do something that really the only way 205 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: to do it is manually. 206 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 3: So to jump in here real quick, I'm just thinking 207 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: about as you guys know, I I managed restaurants in 208 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: the city of landas number. 209 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: What did you guys do? What'd you do? 210 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: Oh? 211 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: What was? 212 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: This gets more? 213 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: This gets more evil as story goes on because he 214 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: because one of the best things about it is it's 215 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: not me, but four different restaurant managers working with each 216 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: other on this on this posture. And so there's a 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: search of these restaurants and there's like four within like 218 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: five minutes walking to each other. So basically what we 219 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: would usually do when one of the places start. It 220 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: was a new employee who seemed a pretty cool day 221 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: and like wouldn't get offended if he did this to them. 222 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: They just understand some hazing is uh. One of us 223 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: would send a person with a bucket to go get 224 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: a bucket of steam in the steam you can put 225 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: steam in a bucket, like, oh, that's the name of 226 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: the product. 227 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: Just go over to this place. 228 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: So they go over that place, and the manager who 229 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: knows this is like, dude, oh, yes, you guys are 230 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: out of steam too. Yeah, the delivery must not come in, 231 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: but you gotta. 232 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Go to the third guy. 233 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: The third but like, we get all over his stuff 234 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: from us twos they get their stuff from Cisco, so 235 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: they should be good. And then like the third person's like, yeah, no, 236 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: we sorry, the owners cut it off. Well, you guys 237 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: have been borrowing way too much steam from us. 238 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: You can't do it. 239 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: So the person's just walking around Grant Park neighborhood with 240 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: a ice bucket, a big giant ice bucket, over and 241 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: over again until one of the managers uh breaks their breaks, 242 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: like you know, the joke and break are laughing and 243 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I have been walking around for thirty 244 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: minutes in the hot sun of Atlanta. 245 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: Well aventually it would turn to steam. 246 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go take a while to take 247 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: a while just goes to share that April fool can 248 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: be every day in certain situations. I found a couple 249 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: other examples of the job site stuff when would be 250 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: a to your point max or similar to your straight 251 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: A bucket of Olmes homes being a way of measuring 252 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: electrical resistance, which is not a thing that can be 253 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: held in a bucket, a wire stretcher, a flex bender, 254 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: a pack of end joints, or a box of toenails. 255 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I do have a box of toenails. We're not going 256 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: to get into it. 257 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: Those around you just you just hang on to them 258 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: for posterity. 259 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I believe in magic. So there's there's a Uh there's 260 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: another example. We used to do this thing where you 261 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: would have like a new recruit, uh, you would you 262 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: would have them dig a hole and then you would 263 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: yell at them for digging the hole wrong, and you 264 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: would ask them to move the hole, or you would 265 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: send them to a different guy who would get mad 266 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: that anyone like that you were there was very kill 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: the messenger. It was just a way to make people 268 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: do more push ups. 269 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: Sure, Penn. 270 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if someone came up with a movable 271 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: hole that would be a million dollar idea. So you know, 272 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: this is all of these kinds of things. These had 273 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: a Galki Day, another thing they referred to it as 274 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: in Scotland hunt the galk, very similar to our snipe 275 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: hunt that we know. Tally Day is a following day 276 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: where people would pen oftentimes kick me signs on folks back, 277 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: similar to the fish situation over there in France. All 278 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: of these rituals are part of a relatively and surprisingly 279 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: ancient practice that spans cultures, continence, and of course time, 280 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: the custom of dedicating a single day to the embracing 281 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: of harmless pranks and merriments on one's friends, neighbors and 282 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: loved ones, with a sort of built in amnesty where 283 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: you can't really get mad about it. 284 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: But some of these are worthy of. 285 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Getting that about, you know, if you get really done dirty, right. 286 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: And we were looking into this and we found that 287 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: April Fool's Day is itself kind of a mixtape of 288 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: much earlier festivals, things like Hilaria of ancient name that right. 289 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: But re fun festival. 290 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it was on March twenty fifth, so not too 291 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: far away. People would dress up in disguises, you could 292 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: mock fellow citizens and back in Roman times. People genuinely 293 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: believe this was inspired by it was like inspired by 294 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: earlier Egyptian mythology. And then you could go to another 295 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Tomfoolery celebration that continues today in India, the Holly celebration 296 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Hli well. 297 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: And also, I mean it reminds me even of like 298 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: the Carnival season like in Brazil, or the way that's 299 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: been embraced and sort of changed around to. 300 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: Suit the New Orleans culture. 301 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: I mean, and even in Germany and in Europe they've 302 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 2: got something called Fashing, which is very much around that 303 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: carnival season, but it contains a lot of that same 304 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of stuff, little pranks, little jokes, merriment. 305 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 4: Hell, even Halloween has. 306 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: A certain prank quality to it, right, the trick or 307 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: the treat right, I mean a lot of these things 308 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: are cross pollinad and there are bits of it in 309 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: various different holidays and seasons, even within a single culture. 310 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, we see a larger trend here. And if 311 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: we look at the ancient past. Staying with that for 312 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: a moment, we also have to consider things like Saturnalia. 313 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: It was the winter festival, you know that everybody's celebrated 314 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: at the end of December, if you vibed the harrowing winter, 315 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: you danced, you drank, you made mary, you made, you 316 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: gave each other gifts. Slaves were allowed to pretend they 317 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: were in charge for that one day, and for that 318 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: one day. 319 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's evil again, slavery is the most evil of all. 320 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: But I mean that is just kind of that's even worse. 321 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: That's very like, get out and thank you for bp me. 322 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: Max. 323 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: There was the there was a fake king, the guy 324 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: called the In English, we'll call it Lord of Misrule. Eventually, yeah, yeah, 325 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: in the Eventually, around the fourth century CE, what we 326 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: call Saturnalia turned into celebration of the new year on 327 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: January first, and a lot of the Saturnalia traditions and 328 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: sort of ornaments or affectations are incorporated in the modern 329 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: observance of Christmas. Please check out our episodes on Christmas. 330 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: I just love this point that almost every culture across 331 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: the planet has some kind of festival in the first 332 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: months of the year to celebrate the fact that spring 333 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: is coming. And if you talk with our boffins, our 334 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: anthropologist friends, they'll tell you these are called renewal festivals. 335 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: That's interesting. 336 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: The idea of renewal by being a little silly Bailey, 337 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, renewing yourself. It's also you know, I wish 338 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: that there were an official calendar day for opposite day. 339 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 2: You know, people always talk about its opposite day, but 340 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: it seems to only be used to kind of suit 341 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: whatever little gag they're playing at that particularly moment. It's 342 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: sort of like a momentary. Yeah, it's like a momentary 343 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: April fools. Yeah, And I mean, just to reiterate, like, 344 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: this is very much a day there. This is a 345 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: day where up is down and down is up, and 346 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: you know, the master becomes the servant and vice versa. Again, 347 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: sort of an opposite day situation. 348 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: And the idea that for. 349 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: That one day, you know, like the idea of being 350 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: king for a day, but it doesn't really change anything, 351 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: which is I think the part that gives it that 352 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: sort of dark sort of twist. 353 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: Right, it's like an escape hatch. And I love I 354 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: mentioned Whitest Kids. You know, do you remember that sketch? 355 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: Course I die, I do very much. 356 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: And the guy went on to the one of the 357 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: members went on to make Barbarian, which is a film 358 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: that I quite loved, and rip Trevor Moore, who was 359 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: the kind of the leader of that sketch group and 360 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: passed away well before his time. In the last handful 361 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: of years. 362 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: They have a fantastic opposite day sketch. I don't know 363 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: that one that address it, Please everyone look it up. 364 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: It addresses the idea of scheduling and opposite day, or 365 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: the sort of cognitive paradox, which is what these sorts 366 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: of holidays or celebrations or festivals, whatever you want to 367 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: call them, are ultimately celebrating. At its very best, the 368 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: modern April Fool's Day can be pretty fun. But here's 369 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: the thing, no one really knows where it came from. 370 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: People weren't even asking about the providence of April Fools 371 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: until maybe seventeen oh eight. There's a guy who rode 372 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: into a British magazine called Apollo and said, quince proceeds 373 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: the custom of making April fools. So like, no one knows, 374 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: but there are a ton of fascinating theories. 375 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of scholars believe that the modern equivalent 376 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: of April Fools began back there in France with that 377 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: whole find the fish situation or pin the tail in 378 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: the fish or the young fish whatever it was. You 379 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: will often hear this the idea of April fools originating 380 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: because of some as often as the case been with 381 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: calendar flip floppery, right like certain whims of certain kings 382 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: and arguments over when actual facts. 383 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: Lauren vogelbam new year officially starts. 384 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, this is the thing, all right, So 385 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: it's Les, let's rewind if we can max perfect and 386 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: thank you do Actually, yeah, I like the way you 387 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: did it. 388 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: Combine our forces for the re Yeah. 389 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Back in the fifteen hundreds, there's this guy, he's the king. 390 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: His name is Charles nine I X if your fancy, 391 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: and he said, look, the New Year is not going 392 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: to begin on Easter anymore. For a lot of Christians 393 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: at the time the New Year began on Easter. He said, instead, 394 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: we're taking it to January first. And the idea, the 395 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: theory that you'll often hear is that French people who 396 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't get the communication, they didn't get the memo. 397 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: They also sort of have a way of doing things, 398 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: you know, they they like to do things a little. 399 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: Different there in France. 400 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: We say that you may well have gotten the memo 401 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: and put it in the trash you know, like. 402 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: We're guys who are not Francophones, but we are frank 403 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: of Fhiles. You know. 404 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh, if I'm talking a little fun at the French, 405 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely ingest. 406 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: I'm a huge The food is genuinely better. 407 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: And some of my favorite music in the entire world 408 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: comes from France. But yeah, to your point, Ben, the 409 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: the idea that they kind of stayed the course and 410 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: kept things going as they were, so during the last 411 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: week of March through April first, that became a time 412 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: to kind of make fun of the French because they 413 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: had not changed their calendars to join the rest of 414 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: which the term you have in here, Ben, which I love, Christendom, 415 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: it just seems very Robin Hood. 416 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: I don't know why Christendom. It's very very official Sunding. 417 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the folks who didn't get the decree of 418 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: the king and we're still celebrating the quote unquote wrong 419 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. They were called the April fools. 420 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: That's a theory. That's the long story short, but that 421 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: doesn't always give us the answer. So the long story long, 422 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: the straight seahorse teeth, the hot cheese is is this 423 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: you gotta like you were saying, No, we got to 424 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: look at the history of calendar reform. So the Julian 425 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: calendar is named after Julius Caesar, right, and that that's 426 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: the calendar that made January first the first day of 427 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: the year. But as Christianity, you know, further expands, and 428 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I would argue franchises throughout Europe, people wanted to move 429 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: New Year's Day to dates that were more important to Christianity, 430 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: like why can't it start at Christmas? Why can't the 431 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: year start it Easter? And so some countries kept using 432 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: January first, and they justified it. This is so crazy. 433 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: Fellow substitute teachers in the crowd, please recognize this may 434 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: not be appropriate for your class. Some countries used to 435 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: keep with January first, and they would justify it to 436 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Christendom as I don't know how else to say it. 437 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: They would they would say that January first was the 438 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: date that Jesus Christ was circumcised. 439 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: You know, I've never really given much thought to whether 440 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: or not Jesus was circumcised, but he was a Jew 441 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 4: and that is a custom, and I guess I didn't 442 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 4: realize that that was a thing. Wow, Okay, it's just. 443 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Like it's a long walk as far as justifications go. 444 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right now I'm speculating as to the size 445 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: of Jesus's circumcised. 446 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: Uh you're thinking about Defoe? 447 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 448 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh god, no, when am I not Jesus massive? 449 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: So look what we're telling you, folks, is by the 450 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred CE, the European calendar was a real messy 451 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: bullis spaghetti. The errors in the Julian calendar, like simple 452 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: mathematical errors, had caused what we call the solar year 453 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: to increasingly divide from the calendar year. And add to this, 454 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: different countries are beginning the year on different dates. Uh. 455 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: This is really confusing, especially because in France people are 456 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: using Easter as the beginning of the year, primarily for 457 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: bureaucratic purposes, but people on the ground are using January 458 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: first as the traditional start of the year. This is 459 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: when you celebrate, This is when you give each other gifts. 460 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: You know, visit your relatives, have a hug. Starting the 461 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: new year on Easter is stupid and convenient. 462 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: So in the early sixteenth century, in French books, you'll 463 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: find both forms of the dating system listed side by side. 464 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: For titles published in January February or March, and then 465 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: moving into the mid sixteenth century, you started to see 466 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: a system of calendaring where everything started on January first, 467 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: and that began to be widely adopted in France. So 468 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: they finally either got the memo or decided to pull 469 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: it out of the trash and you know, kind of 470 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: the join the party. 471 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was our buddy Charlie King Charles ninth of 472 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: his name. He created this thing on December twenty second, 473 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: fifteen sixty four, or that's when French Parliament approved of 474 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: the move to make January first the official actual fact. 475 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Shout out, Lauren, first day of the year. This was 476 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: in my mind, this is like the calindrical version of 477 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: legalizing cannabis. He looked at it, he said, everybody's already 478 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: doing it, so why are we going to make it illegal? 479 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: Wait, isn't that that's the name of an album. Everybody 480 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: else is doing it, so what shouldn't we It's. 481 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: Like the Cranberries, I want to say. 482 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: Ayway, eighteen years later, in fifteen eighty two, we've got 483 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: Pope Gregory issuing a papal powl, which sounds so intense, 484 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: which is basically just a decree from the Pope that 485 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: declared sweeping calendar reform across all of Christendom or Catholicism 486 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: in them. The Gregorian reform included moving the start of 487 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: the year to January first, and creating a Leapyer system 488 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: that Max very definitely stuck to with our publishing schedule 489 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: and whatever Leapier that was, which at the time eliminated 490 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: ten days from the month of October of eighteen fifty 491 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: two in order to correct that calendar drift, which is 492 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: something that I still have a hard time wracking my 493 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: head around. I think that was a big theme of 494 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: the Leapier episode, was me banging my head against the 495 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: wall about why what is this calendar drift? 496 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: So the Pope has no real power to make the 497 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: governments of the time comply, right, but he does say, hey, 498 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, guys, if you're a Christian nation, I'm the 499 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: pope and this is the time of really brutal monarchies. 500 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: France accepts this reform, they had already changed it. A 501 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: lot of people get this part wrong. Anyway, it becomes 502 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: clear like the more you look into it, the calendar 503 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: change hypothesis has a really convenient to it, right. It 504 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: sounds like a light switch going on and off. This 505 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: is not quite the truth, you know. You can say that. Look, 506 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you can say that the calendar change hypothesis is plausible 507 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: if it's applied to Britain, maybe because they did New 508 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: Year's Day of March twenty fifth, because of the Feast 509 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: of Annunciation, again trying to align the solar calendar, the 510 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: passage of the actual planets with religious ideology. The earliest 511 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: version of the calendar change hypothesis that we can find 512 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: in print goes back to seventeen sixty six, and it's 513 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: a response to a discourse that only started in seventeen 514 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Oh wait, people weren't really asking about April Fools until 515 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: centuries after it was happening. We want to go to 516 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: a quote from a correspondence to something called The Gentleman's Magazine. 517 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a long quote. I think 518 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to do a pretty cool voice. So Noel, 519 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: if you can do the first part, I'll come in 520 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: at the end. 521 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, this strange custom prevalent throughout this kingdom of people 522 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 5: making fuels of one another upon the first of April. 523 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm just sorry, I'm doing it like Kenna very talestu 524 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: a ruse from the year, formally a beginning as to 525 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: some purpose and in some respects on the twenty fifth 526 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: of March, which was supposed to be the incarnation of 527 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: our Lord. 528 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: It's been customary with the Romans as well as fit 529 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: us Hole Day festival. It ended by an octave that 530 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: the commencement of a new year, which festival lasted for 531 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: it is where after first of the last was the principal. 532 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: Therefore the first of April is the octave of the 533 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: twenty fifth of March, and consequently the clothes or ending 534 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: of the feast, which was both the festival of the 535 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: annunciation and the beginning of the new year. 536 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: Broo and Telly ho good sir, h Yeah, we're gonna 537 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: to unpack all that. I kind of got lost in 538 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: the sauce of the voices. 539 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: There can I jump in real quick to talk about 540 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: the voices, because believe it, this is gonna go full circle. 541 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: But you guys, you both used your Canterbury Tales voices. 542 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: I used remember from that episode. I used an accent 543 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: that came up off the top of my head. 544 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: At least I thought, so, oh yeah, we forced you 545 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: to play I. 546 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: Figured out later on I was editing it. The accent 547 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: I was doing was the one of my friend named Jeff. 548 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: He talks like this all the time, like this. The 549 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 3: reason to bring this up is Jeff, who is a character. 550 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: I love him to death, but he's a character. His 551 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: birthday is April fools Day, and he's the type of 552 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: guy who lie in day's birthday today. 553 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: So Jeff, Jeff, text him, text him now. So all 554 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: right there there there's another part here. We had writers 555 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: back then, we would have historical precedent. There's a whole thing, 556 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: a whole discourse with chaucer scholars arguing about whether or 557 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: not he actually references April Fools and when March happens 558 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: versus May, versus April. We know that Chaucer wrote some 559 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: pretty saucy stuff. He's a pretty smart guy. We're actually 560 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: big fans of his work. Can't wait for him to 561 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: conclude the Canterbury Tales. When do you think it's coming out? 562 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: When do you think he'll finish in I. 563 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: Think it's been in turnaround at Tony for a while. 564 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: Hopefully it's a production. Lebo, Oh my god, I love 565 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: you for that one. 566 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: Also, if the holiday was always around. Why doesn't Shakespeare 567 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: mention it? Look, the United Kingdom only changed their calendar 568 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: year to start on January first. They only did that 569 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: in seventeen fifty two, just like a few decades before 570 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: the United States became a country. By that time, April 571 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: Fools is already well established, So confusion about a changing 572 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: calendar could not have been logically responsible for the origin 573 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: of the celebration in Britain. Oh, also, we should mention 574 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: it is possible, like our earlier guy noted that the 575 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: festival held on April first in that correspondence with the 576 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: with the Gentleman's magazine, it's posstering it for the art. 577 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, I forgot to tell you, guys. 578 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: One of my favorite you know, I'm into weird food. 579 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: One of my favorite weird things that I found recently. 580 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: It's an actual thing. Have you ever heard of gentleman's relish? 581 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't sound good. It sounds really gross. 582 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: It's British. It's obviously British. 583 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: Oh jeez, I just immediately got it. 584 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably my own fault for having a 585 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: mine in the gutter, but gentleman's relish does not sound good. 586 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: To me, it does sound like a euphemism. It is 587 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: not a euphemism. I'm I've got to buy some. We 588 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: gotta try it out. 589 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 2: My mom used to make a thing called gentleman's salad 590 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: that was like a gelatin salad, usually green of color, 591 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: and with like shit in it that didn't belong, like 592 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: horse radish and stuff and like lime jello bass and 593 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: gentleman salad is what she always called it. 594 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 4: Never like it, No, I wouldn't even need it. 595 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: It was like she'd put it at everyone's place for 596 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 2: like a holiday meals, and I was a hell. 597 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 1: No, Oh, it was a holiday thing, So everybody gets 598 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: a pass. Gentleman's relish is a real thing. It's also 599 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: called patum paperium. It has nothing to do with April 600 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: Fool's Day. But if you have tried it, please let 601 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: us know. On ridiculous his story. 602 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: Well, surely it could. 603 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: There's a place for it in our History of condiments 604 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: ongoing series. 605 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, another theory. Oh man, if I get it, 606 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: are you guys gonna try it with me? No? You 607 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: don't even read about it. 608 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't like it. 609 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 2: I don't like the way it sounds I want nothing 610 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: to do with it. I resent its very existence. 611 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: I'm just say someone right here, and it's the only 612 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 3: time in my entire life I've been able to say 613 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: this for a good thing. Sorry, Ben, I can't try it. 614 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Condition okay, alright, alright, Max. We respect the condition. So 615 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: other people will tell you. Maybe the timing of April 616 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: Fool's Day is related to what we call the vernal 617 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: equinox March twenty first, because the weather would shift, and 618 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: for previous civilizations that was a real plot twist. But 619 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: the thing is, none of the theories about the origin 620 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: of April Fool's Day have been proven to be correct. 621 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: It was almost certainly a continuation of this ancient prankish tendency. 622 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: It spread throughout other countries. People genuinely did not ask 623 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: about its providence until well after it was already established. 624 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: The actual answer is that no one knows why it's 625 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: a thing. It's ridiculous. It's not like a bank holiday. 626 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: It's just this need to prank. 627 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: People, which I mean, to be fair, you know, you 628 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 2: don't need a particular day to do that. A good 629 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: natured prank is welcome or not unwelcome on any day 630 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 2: of the calendar year. There are even TV shows devoted 631 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: to this stuff. Remember punked Ashton Kutcher's seminal early two thousands, 632 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: Reality where and he would yeah gentleman's relish indeed wherein 633 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: he would punk folks celebs usually And now I think 634 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: there's a show on TV called Practical Jokers. It's very 635 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: very popular and the kids I love Nathan for You. 636 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: Nathan for You is Yeah, I guess you could call 637 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: it a prank. I mean, it's like an earnest prank 638 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: show where he's like pranking people by trying to help 639 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 2: them in the most ridiculous ways possible. 640 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: But I think you're you're spot on. 641 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: Them, which is what we're doing, right, Noel, I would 642 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: like to think. So we're probably one thing, folks. We 643 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 1: are foolish all year round. As Noel said, it doesn't 644 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: have to be a day in April. You can be 645 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: silly any any old time. We have a notable examples. 646 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: That's the best way to end this in this episode 647 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: that we are running late on, Noel, what are some 648 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: notable examples of your favorite April fools Day's April Fool's 649 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: Day breaks. 650 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: Well, it's also something that like you know, corporations get 651 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: in on and get in on the phone, you know, 652 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: especially in the age of social media. One that I 653 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 2: saw that made me think of you, Ben was this 654 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: article that seemed very you know, very well photoshopped. I 655 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: guess that waffle House was removing waffles from its media. Yeah, 656 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: and I think that I hop did a thing in 657 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 2: April fools Day's Past where they said they were changing 658 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: their name to the International House of Burgers. 659 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, I remember that one. That was a 660 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: not too long ago, right, I hob. 661 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 662 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: You got another one that you found, Ben about another 663 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 2: what is it a Young Brands products Taco Bell. 664 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: Yes, in nineteen ninety six, Taco Bell said, hey, we've 665 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: purchased the Liberty Bell. We've renamed it the Taco Liberty Bell. 666 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Where doing this to help with the crushing debt of 667 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: the United States. 668 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 4: Good on you, Taco Bell. Thanks for that. 669 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah this, Yeah, it upset a lot of people in 670 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: PR reported it and then they had to have a 671 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: press conference to just clear the air and let everybody 672 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: know that the city of Philadelphia still owns the Liberty Bell. 673 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: Thank god for that. Another one that you found, Ben 674 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: was nineteen ninety two. 675 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 2: And pr It did a fun little prank declaring that 676 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: Richard Nixon, of course, the shamed or disgraced presidents who 677 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: resigned in nineteen seventy four after the Watergate scander where 678 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: he was doing all kinds of naughty, underhanded things, was 679 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: entering that year's presidential race. And then he had a 680 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: fun new slogan it he was rocking, you know not 681 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean no the voice. Well, of course I am 682 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: not a crook, remember was some of that right? I 683 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: had never heard of anything wrong? Then I won't do 684 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: it again. 685 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: Love it. Thank you for doing that. We've got the 686 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: uh so, we've got the skinny on this. There's an 687 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: active mystery regarding the origins of April Fool's Day. We 688 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for tuning in, fellow ridiculous historians, 689 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: but we will endeavor to do so. This way, Max 690 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: if I could get some fanfare thanks for tuning in. Uzzah, 691 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: thanks to our super producer, mister Max Williams. Thanks to 692 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: oh gosh, let's see aj Bahamas Jacobs, who else? 693 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 4: Who are yeah? Abja? 694 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Jonathan Strickland, the quizz and also you know, pretty stand 695 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 2: up guy when he's not in character. Uh and Chris 696 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: Frosciota is an even Jeff Coates here in spirit. 697 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rude dudes a ridiculous crime. Rachel Big Spinach Lance. 698 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to do a thing in the credits where 699 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: we thank random people were people who have passed recently, 700 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: So thanks to Val Kilmer Man. 701 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks to Val Kilmer indeed. 702 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: And I think I posted this before he passed, or 703 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: maybe it was a portentous in some way, but I 704 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: saw a post of a old tweet from Val Kilmer 705 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: wherein he said I once tickled Lou Reid and at 706 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: the time I really regretted it because he never spoke 707 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: to me again. 708 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 4: But now I'm glad I did it because I think 709 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: he needed it. Well. 710 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to you Lou for your service, and thanks Ip 711 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: Lou as well, Rip Lou as well. Thanks to you 712 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: Neil and you as well. 713 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: Then we'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts 714 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 2: from My Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 715 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.